Karlous Miller Part 1

Summary

Club Shay Shay: Carlos Miller Part 1 – A Deep Dive into Comedy, Hustle, and Personal Journeys

Released on November 6, 2024, "Club Shay Shay" hosts Shannon Sharpe engage with standout personalities to uncover their stories. In this episode, Shannon Sharpe sits down with the multifaceted comedian, Carlos Miller, to explore his journey from Oxford, Mississippi, to the vibrant comedy scene of Atlanta.

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Introduction to Carlos Miller

[05:03] Shannon Sharpe:
"Welcome to another episode of Club Shay Shay. I am your host, Shannon Sharpe. The guy that's stopping by for conversation on the drink today is one of the funnest comedians of his generation… the hilarious K. Carlos Miller."

Carlos Miller exudes charisma as Shannon introduces him, highlighting his versatility as a comedian, podcaster, and entertainer.

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Early Life and Upbringing in Oxford, Mississippi

[06:25] Shannon Sharpe:
"So when you were growing up, what did you want to be? Growing up in Oxford, Mississippi, like that?"

[06:32] Carlos Miller:
"Man, it was always a constant hustle… selling drinks at the game, breaking down tents, parking, construction."

Carlos delves into his early years, emphasizing the entrepreneurial spirit fostered by his environment. Growing up in a large family of eight siblings, Carlos reflects on the responsibilities and dynamics that shaped his work ethic.

[08:48] Carlos Miller:
"I'm the oldest, but I'm the smallest. My mother had better insurance by the time she had them."

This humorous acknowledgment of his position in the family highlights his ability to balance leadership with self-awareness.

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Transition to Comedy and Move to Atlanta

[13:33] Shannon Sharpe:
"So that was, was that main reason that you left Oxford was to come to Atlanta to do comedy?"

[13:36] Carlos Miller:
"Man, once you hit Atlanta and see that nightlife, you just kind of find any way to get… it was so much going on."

Carlos explains his decision to relocate to Atlanta, recognizing it as a hub for entertainment and opportunities. His first performances at Twisted Taco marked the beginning of a thriving comedy career.

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Early Success and TV Appearances

[24:14] Shannon Sharpe:
"What are some of the best advice comedians have given you?"

[24:34] Carlos Miller:
"Be funny. Everything. If you're a comedian and you're funny, everything else will find you."

Carlos shares insights from fellow comedians, emphasizing authenticity and honing one's craft as key to success. His appearances on shows like Last Comic Standing, Comic View, and Def Comedy Jam are discussed as pivotal moments in his career.

[30:19] Carlos Miller:
"It was a dream… to get on those shows. Anytime they call them, I always do them."

This dedication underscores Carlos's commitment to expanding his reach and establishing his presence in the comedy landscape.

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Navigating Challenges in the Comedy Industry

[17:05] Carlos Miller:
"For 30 minutes now, putting it all together was the hard part… timing it out, like. And then you gotta include the laughs."

Carlos candidly discusses the difficulties of maintaining a consistent and engaging comedy set, highlighting the ongoing process of refining his material and performance.

[19:18] Carlos Miller:
"But it was mostly like, that's comedy club, green room, back room. That's between us."

He touches on the internal conflicts and rivalries within the comedy community, particularly referencing tensions stemming from fellow comedian Katt Williams.

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Personal Anecdotes and Experiences

[55:00] Shannon Sharpe:
"So check this out. We leaving. I said, God dang, man, I left my watch and my bracelet…"

Carlos narrates a harrowing personal experience involving a confrontation at a woman's house, showcasing his storytelling prowess and ability to blend humor with real-life events.

[63:04] Shannon Sharpe:
"So you acting like you got a job, bro."

[63:07] Carlos Miller:
"You got about 20 minutes of football highlights on YouTube."

These exchanges reveal the playful banter and rapport between Shannon and Carlos, adding levity to the conversation.

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Insights on Relationships and Dating

[38:13] Shannon Sharpe:
"What's the appropriate place to take someone on the first date? How much is the appropriate amount to spend on the first date?"

[38:34] Carlos Miller:
"Men, we lose because we don't plan enough… if you take her somewhere you can afford, it’s gonna make it look like you had this whole thing laid out."

Carlos offers pragmatic advice on dating, stressing the importance of planning within one’s means to create meaningful experiences without financial strain.

[46:39] Shannon Sharpe:
"Have you ever used a dating site?"

[46:41] Carlos Miller:
"I ain't never been on there. Social media is about as close to a dating site as I'm gonna get."

He shares his preference for in-person connections over online dating, emphasizing authenticity in relationships.

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Social Commentary and Representation

[61:07] Shannon Sharpe:
"Who started Safe and Healthy? Who started the hashtag black men don't cheat?"

[61:08] Carlos Miller:
"Yeah, I'm a black man. I'm a black man. In order to cheat, you gotta be with somebody, right?"

Carlos engages in a discussion about societal perceptions of black men, challenging stereotypes and advocating for fair representation.

[63:22] Carlos Miller:
"When you find them, you wanna leave them better than you found them."

This sentiment underscores his belief in personal integrity and uplifting others within his community.

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Managing Fame and Business

[35:12] Carlos Miller:
"You have your routine. You gotta eat right, you gotta get some rest…"

Carlos outlines his strategies for maintaining energy and authenticity while juggling multiple performances and business ventures, ensuring each show remains fresh and engaging.

[35:54] Shannon Sharpe:
"People don't want someone that big…"

He discusses the balancing act between managing high-profile opportunities and staying true to his roots, highlighting the importance of a supportive management team.

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Conclusion and Tease for Part 2

[71:43] Hulu Announcer:
[Ad continues...]

[72:15] Shannon Sharpe:
"This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two is also posted…"

Shannon wraps up the episode by hinting at continued discussions in Part 2, encouraging listeners to stay tuned for more insights and stories from Carlos Miller.

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Notable Quotes:

• Carlos Miller [24:34]:
  "Be funny. Everything. If you're a comedian and you're funny, everything else will find you."

• Carlos Miller [35:12]:
  "You gotta make sure you got your routine. You gotta eat right, you gotta get you some rest."

• Carlos Miller [61:08]:
  "Black men don't cheat. Black men, the most faithful man out here."

• Carlos Miller [63:22]:
  "When you find them, you wanna leave them better than you found them."

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Final Thoughts

In this engaging first part of his conversation with Shannon Sharpe, Carlos Miller offers a candid look into his life, from his humble beginnings in Oxford to navigating the challenging waters of the comedy industry in Atlanta. His insights on hustle, authenticity, relationships, and representation provide listeners with both inspiration and entertainment. As the episode concludes, anticipation builds for the next installment, promising further exploration of Carlos's dynamic journey.

Transcript

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Carlos Miller]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Carlos Miller]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Carlos Miller]

May never have another chance.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

You think you can stop him?

[Carlos Miller]

I know I can.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because I know him better than he knows himself. Cross A new original series only on prime video. Watch now. D.C. went through something. He lost the mother of his kids. How were you able to be there for a friend to let him know? Bro, I can't even imagine the pain that you're going through. But I just want you to know that I'm here for you if you ever need me.

[Carlos Miller]

Man, that was that. Cried more than he did. I don't know what to say. But I'm here. I don't have no words. If you need anything, if you need me to go pick these Kids up every day. Or if you need me to, Whatever you need. I'm extending myself to you, bro. That would really. That caught everybody off guard. All my life been grinding all my.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Life Sacrifice hustle, paid the price, wanna.

[Carlos Miller]

Slice, got the roll of dice that's why all my life I been grinding all my life all my life Been grinding all my life Sacrifice hustle, paid the price, wanna slice, got the roller.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Dice that's why all my life I've.

[Carlos Miller]

Been grinding all my life.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hello, welcome to another episode of Club Shae Shay. I am your host, Shannon Sharp. I'm also the proprietor of Club Shae Shay. The guy that's stopping by for conversation on the drink today is one of the funnest comedians of his generation. He performs the sold out crowds nationwide and internationally. The maestro of improvisation, he's one of the host and creators of the hit podcast improv show 85 south with debuted number one on Netflix. A popular and talented standup comedian, an actor, rapper, podcaster, writer, entertainer, host extraordinaire, a versatile performer, a fan favorite, a force to be reckoned with in the entertainment industry. He's fearless. The hilarious K. Carlos Miller.

[Carlos Miller]

Hey, hey, hey, hey. What's up?

[Shannon Sharpe]

What's up?

[Carlos Miller]

What he do, man? Chilling, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You later. That man told me. Oh, we gonna start at. We gonna start at 10:00. What time is it, man?

[Carlos Miller]

It's about 10 something. About 10 something.

[Shannon Sharpe]

10 something to 12.

[Carlos Miller]

It's about 10 something, man, you telling these people this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, my bad, my bad, my bad. He was on T time.

[Carlos Miller]

I was in wardrobe. Get my together.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This man over here, wardrobe, he got a sweat on. It's a black, bro. I brought some of my cognac here, man, for you. Because, bro, what you've been able to do coming from Oxford, Mississippi. We going to talk, we going to talk. We going to talk about Oxford, Mississippi.

[Carlos Miller]

Oxford, Mississippi, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

God damn.

[Carlos Miller]

Oh, yeah, you know Oxford, we getting, we growing. We blowing up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y'all ain't blowing, man.

[Carlos Miller]

DK from Oxford.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay? You and dk.

[Carlos Miller]

DK Metcalf from Arch.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You gonna go leave me Dragon Papa?

[Carlos Miller]

No, absolutely not, man. Hey, you got your own yak.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We gonna send you with a bottle too.

[Carlos Miller]

I need some, man. Cause hey, you know motherfucker be coming on here cutting up. Motherfuckers been cutting up on here. They blaming this old 2024 on your show.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That what they said, man, I ain't do nothing though. I just ask a question. Hey, you gonna cut up.

[Carlos Miller]

They say you had something, something to do with it. Very little. That's smooth.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I thought we was going to sip.

[Carlos Miller]

No, we just going to knock that on out, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, I'm going see up. I ain't going to know cuz I won't be able to finish this interview.

[Carlos Miller]

Is this live? We don't live.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he going to go ahead, doctor.

[Carlos Miller]

You been on live. Going crazy on you. You showing out, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I got.

[Carlos Miller]

Before we even get into. I'm going to tell you w. Yeah, yeah. Wilder.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. I ain't anticipate being this kind of part of 24, man.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah, you showed. You showed out in 2024. You all on live with it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man.

[Carlos Miller]

You trending. I know you don't be on social. You ain't seen none of this, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I saw. Unfortunately, no. I hadn't seen that part. I heard about that part, man. I don't need to see it.

[Carlos Miller]

I'm telling you. They going crazy over there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I was out there bad.

[Carlos Miller]

You trending and everything.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't trending. I ain't gonna.

[Carlos Miller]

You ain't see the trending topic.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Talk her through it.

[Carlos Miller]

Mm, mm. Yeah, they showing that Ms. Beat. Nasty done hitting me, talking about what's up with uncle and everything.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, she hit you?

[Carlos Miller]

She hit.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I know her. You know her?

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What she say?

[Carlos Miller]

Since you said her name, she been trying to reach back. You ain't caught none of her traction, though?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't caught none of it.

[Carlos Miller]

Take her shopping or something?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Grocery shopping?

[Carlos Miller]

No. Oh, you spent some of that NFL money on her, man, I ain't got no NFL money.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm 20 years past that.

[Carlos Miller]

Carlos, you ain't spend all that money?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I ain't spending all.

[Carlos Miller]

You from small town? George Sterling ain't let you spend all that money, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let's talk about your upbringing. Grew up in Oxford, Mississippi. Absolutely. Obviously, University of Mississippi is located. So that's a college town.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So what was Carlos growing up in Oxford, Mississippi, like?

[Carlos Miller]

Man, it was always a constant hustle, man. You know, Ole Miss was right there. So it's so many things that I got into, like selling drinks at the game, you know, breaking down tents, parking, construction. My stepdad from the country.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Country.

[Carlos Miller]

So we always had something to do, you know what I'm saying?

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you always had a hustle going on, even as a child?

[Carlos Miller]

Absolutely. So when I got into the comedy game and I started getting my foot in the entertainment industry, you know, I parlayed that into the 85 South show, into my own studio, into things like that. So that's where the grind Comes from. That's where the entrepreneurship comes from.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So when you were growing up, what did you want to be growing up? I mean, you doing. Had all these odd and end jobs, like you said. You're selling drinks at the football stadium, you breaking down tents, you're doing all these things. What did you want to be when you grew up?

[Carlos Miller]

I think I always wanted to be a comedian, but since it's such a small town in Mississippi, I've never seen anybody in the entertainment world, so I didn't know that that was.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That was the impossible. Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

Something you could make a living doing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right. So you wanted. Did you play sports growing up?

[Carlos Miller]

Play some sports.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Were you good? Cause DK's from. DK's from Oxford also. Did you know DK growing up?

[Carlos Miller]

Absolutely, bro. DK used to live right across the street from my auntie. I used to see him every day when he was a little boy. He used to just be standing in the screen, back and forth, throwing the football with. You know his pops. Played football.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, yes.

[Carlos Miller]

And was a dog.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He was offensive lineman, if I'm not saying. Absolutely.

[Carlos Miller]

Like one of the first round draft picks out of Ole Miss. So Terrence Metcalf. He was a dog, bruh. So, yeah, I played a little sport, did a little running, little cross country. You know, I've been this ass forever. So once you get hit by somebody who, you know, going to the league, you pretty much give up on all that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you like, gave it like, you know what? I ain't gonna get much bigger than this. Ain't no sense in me.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah, I was way better at talking, way better at comedy than any. Whatever.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You have eight brothers and sisters. So what was it like growing up in a family of that size?

[Carlos Miller]

It was dope. Cause it's, you know, it's the country, man. Everybody is at grandma house.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

Everybody getting the same ass whooping. It was just dope being, you know, from a big family like that, having, bro, like, all my brothers are huge, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Where do you fall at in the pecking order? You the oldest. You in the middle. You at the end.

[Carlos Miller]

I'm the oldest.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You the oldest of eight?

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, you had it. Cause you basically, you like the second father. Because you gotta make sure all the younger ones stay in line. Because if they get out of line, they gonna blame you. Cause you the oldest when you know better.

[Carlos Miller]

But you gotta keep in mind, all my brothers are overseas. Six feet tall. Oh, so my little sister bigger than me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm the oldest, so you can't Tell nobody what to do.

[Carlos Miller]

I'm the oldest, but I'm the smallest. Exactly. My mother had better insurance by the time she had them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now high school. So what, so what were you always. Were you always a class clown? Were you always a comedian? Were you always trying to be funny? Or this something that you kind of developed as you aged in the beginning.

[Carlos Miller]

It's not like you trying to be funny. Like, I was dead ass serious, you know, you called on the read and everybody laughing. But I'm reading, but it's funny. So, like, I never really got in trouble for being funny in school. So that was the real launch pad. Like, all my teachers used to let me just wild and talk. Cause they knew I was gonna do my work. So.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So how old were you when you left Oxford? What made you decide to say you? Man, I like Oxford. My family's here, but I need to get out of here if I'm gonna do what I want to do.

[Carlos Miller]

Um, what made me leave? My dad used to live in Atlanta.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Carlos Miller]

So he used to always come to Atlanta. So it was always like my second home. And then I got this job. I was a firefighter. For real? For real. Hold on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You were a firefighter? You went to school, you went to training, everything?

[Carlos Miller]

Absolutely. It was a dope ass job until we had a real fire and then I quit. Definitely not.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You didn't quit on the job. You wait till you got. Put the fire out and got everybody out, then you quit?

[Carlos Miller]

I kind of quit on the job.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How the hell that worked?

[Carlos Miller]

The chief came to me like, los, we gotta go in. And I didn't wanna go in the fire. So I was like, I'm not going in there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You do realize that's a part of being a firefighter you gotta run into that.

[Carlos Miller]

We was gonna fight fire from the outside. Like, we was just gonna fight it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So y'all, you gonna use the water hole, you go spray it from outside.

[Carlos Miller]

I never thought about going in the fire. Oh. And then once I found out we had to go in, when we got back to the station, he was like, I probably. I feel like we're gonna have to let you go. And I was like, I feel the same way.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause I definitely sign up for my shit like this.

[Carlos Miller]

Hell no, ain, I feel like I quit.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you can let me go.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah, you can let me go. You can let me go. I completely understand. So that didn't work out. Then I drove some trucks for a little bit. And then I was just like, you had a cdl? Yeah, but damn, you done had a.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Whole lot of jobs.

[Carlos Miller]

I told you, I'm a hustler. Hustler.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm just trying to figure out what made you decide that you want to do a fire. Be a firefighter, though.

[Carlos Miller]

Nothing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You just had some time on your hand.

[Carlos Miller]

I had some extra time, and I went and I took the. I passed the little physical test, and they kept calling me back, and then they gave me the job, and I was like, boy, y'all tripping. I'm definitely not built for this, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, you also were a piece of delivery driver.

[Carlos Miller]

Absolutely. Now, that really. That was one of those jobs that was fun, and it really helped me jump the comedy off. Cause I met a lot of people, and they used to always just, like, call me to come and turn the party up and talk and, you know, rap and all that. So that was really how I built before social media. That was before I.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So when you. When you drop off the pizza to the customers, were you joking with them then? Were you?

[Carlos Miller]

A lot of them guys, like, it was like Deuce McAllister, okay. He used to order a lot of pizzas. Like, they. You know, he ended up playing in the NFL for a long time. And then I met Eli Manning, used to order a lot of pizza.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn.

[Carlos Miller]

So it was just a lot of. I met a lot of people. I had a lot of partners who played football, so I knew everybody on the Ole Miss, and we just. Just go kick it and talk. And I was always known as that guy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now, I read the story that you had a partner that delivered pizza that got robbed by a little person. Was that you or your partner?

[Carlos Miller]

No, that was my partner, Roy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He got robbed by a little person.

[Carlos Miller]

Absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How he get a drop on him?

[Carlos Miller]

Well, I don't know. I don't know the details of the story, but once he was describing it, like, the person to me was like, bro, we in a small town, we in Oxford. I know exactly who robbed you, but I couldn't tell.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It ain't one. It ain't but one of them in a small town.

[Carlos Miller]

I mean, it's two, but. Okay, it's two. And then they got a few sisters, so I know the sisters didn't do it. Yeah, yeah, man. It's wild times out. The old man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You moved to Atlanta. How soon did you hit the comedy stage? Once you got to Atlanta, I think.

[Carlos Miller]

It was maybe three weeks to a month. Started hitting this spot called Twisted Taco. Me and my man Clayton. English and that was in 05, and we've been doing it ever since.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Do you remember? So that was, was that the main reason that you left Oxford was to come to Atlanta to do comedy. Because that's the biggest, Atlanta's the biggest city in the surrounding, in the Southeast. So you figure, like, you know, what if I, if I go to Atlanta, that's probably where I'm gonna make my get my big break.

[Carlos Miller]

Man, once you hit Atlanta and you see that nightlife, you just kind of find any kind of way to get. Man, it was so much going on in Atlanta. It was magic city Mondays and Big Meech was still out and everything was, everything was popping. It was Ferraris and Lamborghinis and all type of navigators. Oh, I gotta find something.

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Carlos Miller]

I don't want you to think I've been Nowhere. Getting booed. I definitely wasn't getting.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You ain't never got booed?

[Carlos Miller]

No, I ain't been doing nothing. None of that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, none of that.

[Carlos Miller]

Dead ass. Serious. When I go on stage, okay, I'm playing, but I'm serious, right? Yeah. So the first time that I hit it, the adrenaline rush hit me and I was like, oh, this it? Cause we went a couple weeks before we actually got on stage, signed up, and then we saw a few cast, and then it's like, man, I can do this shit right? And then I got on and it's just been a rap ever since. Never got off.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How did growing up in Oxford prepare you? Because Oxford is a little different than Atlanta, especially when you brought your here.

[Carlos Miller]

Exactly. Everybody in Oxford funny. Everybody I'm talking about. We got some of the best talkers in the world in Oxford, Mississippi. So it was a lot of pressure on that to be like, I gotta talk better than the best shit talker that I know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Carlos Miller]

So that was the real pressure for me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did talking, you know, ish growing up, did that prepare you? Because it's different talking. Going back and forth with somebody in the barbershop or standing on the block, going back and forth with somebody. Now you gotta do a set. You gotta do 15 minutes, you gotta do 30 minutes. How different was it for you to like, okay, I'm good at making people laugh, but I gotta make people laugh.

[Carlos Miller]

For 30 minutes now, putting it all together was the hard part. And having a, you know, just having enough to talk about was. Was the challenge, putting it together, timing it out, like. And then you gotta include the laughs. So I went on stage maybe for the first year or two, just like, figuring it out, you know what I'm saying? I have a little set list of jokes or something like that that I wanted to try out, what worked, what didn't. But you don't never scratch nothing. You just gotta find a way to make all the.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Make it all the funny.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So some people say, who was I talking to? I think it was Deon Cole said that he don't write anything. No. Marlon Wayans say, I don't write no jokes down. I just go up there and I just go, you said that you'd, like, have a little set, but how much do you write down? Or do you have an idea in your mind? Like, okay, I'm going with this, this, this, this, and this.

[Carlos Miller]

Tonight, I would probably say I break mine down into segments. I probably have like a fourth of something that I wrote or something that I Thought was funny. And then some of that, you just gotta say it first.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Carlos Miller]

Then some of it is something that you may be working on that, you know, you just tooling up. So you got 1, 2, 3. Then you just leave room for some improv. Right. But some comedians, they have the voice like a Deon Cole or Marlon Wayans or Corey Holcomb, they can tell you sometimes it's better to just say it and do it than write it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Had Cat on, obviously, you know that.

[Carlos Miller]

Absolutely. You got the comedy world in shambles right now, bro. Man. Boy, that interview was explosive.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Can that before we get back to this. People got upset with me because Katt put a spotlight, like, everybody telling jokes. Everybody ain't friends. Everybody that's telling jokes. And so I think he put a light, a spotlight on something that a whole lot of people didn't know, and maybe a lot of comedians didn't want people to know. So they upset at Katt for opening Pandora's Box. Did you know you're in this arena, did you know it was like that, that so many comedians kind of, like, beefing? I mean, not all, but there's this kind of animosity, this kind of beef between certain comedians.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah. But it's in house. Okay. It was nothing that he said that I didn't. I've never.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You already knew. Okay.

[Carlos Miller]

But it was mostly like, that's comedy club, green room, back room. That's between us.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

So when he put it out in the public and, you know, for him to be as big of a star as he is, ain't nobody get a chance to rebuttal.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Carlos Miller]

And plus, it's hard when you come on a show like this and you talk and then your house ain't clean.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Carlos Miller]

You get what I'm saying? So I don't think that that's over.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't think it's over?

[Carlos Miller]

I don't think that that's over. It's a few comedians that really. They really upset about that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

Steve Harvey not playing about that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

Earthquake mad about that. Ricky Smiley had just lost his son. Right. Right. Like, right around that time. So he took it a whole nother way.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I had. And I had Ricky on. I had Ced on. I had Steve on L'Rel. Yeah. Lil Rel came on after Cat.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah. And so back and forth.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But for me, I don't understand. It's just my platform. Like, I have you and I talking. If you say something, I don't know what you're gonna say why people get mad at me for what? Carlos say, I don't know.

[Carlos Miller]

I don't know. But see, Katt, he's not around the comedy world.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, no, no. He's to himself. Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

He always been to himself. So a lot of comedians felt like, well, maybe he been sitting on that. Maybe he been riding around all these years and been wanting to say it and just didn't have time to say it. But to his defense, a lot of people have said a lot of stuff about him that he never said back. So I guess it was just the buildup of him getting his get back.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Carlos Miller]

I ain't mad at either side. I get it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Carlos Miller]

But it's still a lot of about him that people gonna say, right. That people may have forgot about. He called a lot of. He got a lot of heat. Yeah, he did.

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

What was your big break? When would, when did Carlos get that big break and was like, you know what, I'm here.

[Carlos Miller]

I don't know if it is a big break. I think you just work and then you save up some bread and just be like, ain't nobody came here, had me no big check. I had to put a bunch of little checks together. I'm waiting on the big break. Shit, I'm trying to see what you don't want.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You done turned down.

[Carlos Miller]

He ain't got, you ain't got going on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't got nothing going on, man. I ain't got nothing going on.

[Carlos Miller]

Hey man, send me something bad. Ain't no big break. I work every week, I'm working every weekend. I'm still looking for it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What are some of the best advice comedians have given you? Because you're in this arena now, you travel weekend during the week and so obviously you come in contact with a lot of guys that's been doing this a lot longer than you. And some are probably a little bit more successful than you. Although you're on your way and you're trying to get to that level of success. What's some of the best advice comedians have shared with you?

[Carlos Miller]

Be funny. You be funny. Everything. Like if you're a comedian and you're funny, everything else will find you. Like the money will come, the success will come, the fame will come. Just be funny.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did you know you can make this kind of money being a comedian?

[Carlos Miller]

Because I hear say this kind of money.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, I mean, I mean that be, I mean the way they be talking, they be making like, like six figures.

[Carlos Miller]

Only six.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Don't see that's what I'm saying.

[Carlos Miller]

But damn, man, they cheating. They only got six.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, but I'm saying, I mean you do it six A night. That ain't enough for a night. Six, seven, six, eight.

[Carlos Miller]

I thought you meant like four years.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I'm talking about. No, no, no. Hell no. Not for no year. Not for no year. Obviously you doing. Let me ask you a question. How many days a year you say you tour, that you in the club?

[Carlos Miller]

In the club. What is 52 weeks?

[Shannon Sharpe]

52 weeks?

[Carlos Miller]

I probably do. I might do 40. 40, 45.

[Shannon Sharpe]

45. It depends, right?

[Carlos Miller]

Because sometimes depends on where we at in the country, bro. Like when be crazy? This the best time for comedians. Like it's election years.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. So it's.

[Carlos Miller]

People need them last.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So are you doing two shows Friday, two shows Saturday, or you doing one show Friday, one show Saturday, two shows Sunday?

[Carlos Miller]

I usually do eight shows a weekend.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And it ain't about three days in the weekend.

[Carlos Miller]

Add it up, what the hell, when you good, they'll come see you. It don't matter. I could do a show at 4 o'clock in the afternoon and sell it out, huh? I do a 4:00, 7:00, at 9:00, if I'm feeling real freaky, I throw a late show on there. It really just depends on the city.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How you bro to keep that kind of energy. Because I know you don't want to shortchange anybody. You want the people that came. You want the people that came at 4 o'clock to feel they got the same show as the people that came at 7, 9, or if you had the late, the midnight show. So you don't want to shortchange anybody. How do you keep that level of energy up to like, I got to stay here for basically eight, ten hours.

[Carlos Miller]

Okay? I can't tell you everything now. Cause it's gonna be somebody watching this show trying to steal the whole sauce. The whole sauce, man. Okay, but the way that you can do that and keep it fresh, man, you gotta make sure you got your routine. You gotta eat right, you gotta get you some rest, right. You might have to get on live for a little bit.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ah, there you go. So there you go. You might have to get on live.

[Carlos Miller]

For a little bit.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You ain't on live like that.

[Carlos Miller]

Come on now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Come on now. You owned your mtv, your mama, right? What was that experience like? How did, how did that come about?

[Carlos Miller]

It was. I looked at it like in hindsight I should have looked at it as a little bit more of an opportunity, but I was looking at that like a check for right then.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay?

[Carlos Miller]

Because when I was doing it and I was going through the Process, man. I was like, this ain't really. It ain't really shit that I thought it was. Let me get this little money and get on about it, right? But it was dope, man. Wilma Valdorada. Ain't that how you say it?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wilma Valderrama. Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

Wilma Valdorado.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. He was close enough, he cool to.

[Carlos Miller]

Him, but it was dope. It was just one of those things that I got to do early in my career and get on tv, man. Anytime you get on TV as a comedian, you gotta parlay that into your live shows and sell some tickets, Right. So anytime you get on a big platform, mtv, your mama or a hell date or something like that, you gotta make sure that you got a great show to follow that up. Cause people gonna come see you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

And once you. Once you get them in there, you sell them a good show, you got em.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Do you think about. Cause you see a lot of comedians and we go way. You can go way back. You can go back to Richard Pryor, you go back to Red Fox, you go back to Eddie and Martin and all these guys. Is tv, Is that kind of like movies, Is that kind of your thing? Is that kind of where Carlos would like to head?

[Carlos Miller]

Absolutely, absolutely. It's like movies and tv. I look at them like totally separate.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Carlos Miller]

Like movies, that's something where you can get a big check. But when you get on TV and they see you on the regular and they get to see you be diverse and you get to bring your characters and the voices and your slapstick comedy, I think the TV is the package that, where it's like, if you get on there on the regular and you stay on there, that's where you can really make some bread at.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because you can do that, you can do that TV show and then go straight. Because you can take those and then go straight. Straight to the hit the road.

[Carlos Miller]

Absolutely. But I like TV because it's just people get to see more layers of, you know, comedians. We all comedians can either do like some voices or like impressions.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Carlos Miller]

Or serious drama.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Carlos Miller]

I love to see comedians get like roles where they don't have nothing to do with comedy and then they just kill it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Like James Jamie Foxx. Yeah, exactly.

[Carlos Miller]

So yeah, you can parlay that however you want to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You was also on the Monique show. Yeah. What's it like working? Because Monique, you know, a lot. She talks to. She difficult to work with. I had on the show and she was great.

[Carlos Miller]

She ain't difficult to work with. She just ain't to be played with. That's the difference. Monique is. She's gonna stand up for what she believe in. She's not finna let you talk to her crazy. You're not gonna be making demands. It's like, she a boss.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Carlos Miller]

And it's the difference between being a boss and an employee.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Carlos Miller]

When you hire Monique, you get the whole Monique.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Carlos Miller]

But you don't get to tell her what to do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Carlos Miller]

And that's a. That's another conflict that comedians have. Sometimes they hire us to talk, and then they don't want to hear. They think they can control what we're gonna say. It don't work like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It don't work like that.

[Carlos Miller]

Absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. You was on Comic View.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How was that experience?

[Carlos Miller]

It was dope. That was one of those shows that I grew up watching, so I would have did that for free. You get what I'm saying? Just to put my name on the wall like that. I did Def Comedy Jam, too, when they brought it back. So all of those shows that I got to, like, be a part of, that was part of, like, my journey. Anytime they call them, I always do them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Was that all? I mean, obviously, when you see those, you see Def Comedy Jam, you see Comic View. Was that always a goal of yours to get on those shows?

[Carlos Miller]

It was a dream. Cause like I said, I didn't know that it was achievable. I thought when you were a comedian that, you know what I mean, it was somewhere that you went to become a comedian.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Carlos Miller]

All these people were funny. Like, how did they get that good? So I just be at the crib watching that every night. Like, man, that's just. That's dope. How you could just turn your personality into your job.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right? But as a child, did you write jokes? Did you write anything that you thought was funny? Or you just made light of situations that you saw? Kids, you know, maybe weren't as smart as you or just, you know, some things, you know, they walked a little funny, they were a little slow. They was in a grade. You know, they started out together. Then a couple of years later, they still in that same classroom. And you done moved on a couple of grades. Did you. Did you. Did you make fun of kids?

[Carlos Miller]

Nah, I made fun of everybody, but I used to cuss a lot.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You used to cuss a lot as a kid?

[Carlos Miller]

I was the cussing ass kid. Like, from the time I learned how to talk, I used to cuss.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Your mom. Your parents let you get away with that?

[Carlos Miller]

It's not Necessarily getting away with it. But you gotta. Sometimes you gotta weigh the risk and the reward. Sometimes that ass whooping was worth it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, no, no. Hell no.

[Carlos Miller]

Yes, it was. It was. It was. Man, I used to get in trouble for cussing all the time, right? I had one coach when I was in like middle school, junior high, sixth grade to eighth grade. It don't matter what day it was or where I was. He caught me cussing every day. Coach Terry, Coach Terry. It's like, soon as I get through cussing, I turn around, he was right there, man. So that was, that was, that was pretty much my thing growing up as a kid, bro. I used to always be the one. Like, man, it's up. And then they'd be like, Carlos said it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you was on Last Comic Standing.

[Carlos Miller]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did you? What? Because if I'm not mistaken, Kenan Ivory Williams was a judge. Amy Schumer was a judge. Yeah. What did you learn from that? Experience?

[Carlos Miller]

Not to listen to Amy Schumer. Why? She on there giving advice she didn't win. Is that what you did, Amy? I'm not listening to you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because you, you've been on these shows. I mean, you've been on a lot of high profile shows. I mean, so your name has been out, Carlos. It's not like you've been, you know, you on the chitlin circuit and don't nobody know who you are. You've. You put your name at the forefront. So you kind of had a name even before you became this.

[Carlos Miller]

Sometimes see some of these shows, right? Like you need the chilling circuit.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

Cause black people make you famous and then white people make you rich. So if I wasn't good at making black people laugh, they wouldn't have no interest in bringing me to these platforms.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Correct.

[Carlos Miller]

And then sometimes you get on these platforms and they be great opportunities, but they don't be paying. And that make me lose all interest in them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you need to get a check to be free.

[Carlos Miller]

Cause I'm grinding. I'm over here in the hood, right? And you know, you might get a call from the street. Street dude, Big baby. He got you in Greenwood, South Carolina at his cousin's spot. But he got that big show money.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

And they love you enough, right? And the show might not start at 1:00 in the morning. We drink good club straight, straight, baby. That handed you 3,500.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. And I'm there singles.

[Carlos Miller]

But then you go and they want you to do six weeks of tv. You don't even. Yeah, you Ain't making. And then you gotta pay taxes on it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Had you won how much? How different would your life have been had you won last comic standing?

[Carlos Miller]

It wouldn't have been too different.

[Shannon Sharpe]

$250,000 wouldn't have changed you.

[Carlos Miller]

Nah, I would've messed that money up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So it would have changed.

[Carlos Miller]

I would've missed that money.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You jacked that money off.

[Carlos Miller]

I'm so glad I ain't get that money.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right, right then. Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

Cause my mama had just passed, so, you know, I'm dealing with the sadness and the depression. Then you gonna throw some money on top of that. I probably wouldn't even be here right now. I would have messed that money up way too quick. Probably would have caught a charge.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You went on hell date. So you. Like I said, you stay on tv. Carlos, I'm grinding.

[Carlos Miller]

I'm grinding.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let me ask you a question. How do these opportunities. You have a manager. Like, I got somebody that I think would be perfect for this. Because you are a showman. You know how to get in front of the cameras, and that's a part of it. Knowing how to play to the cameras, knowing how to play to a crowd. Everybody can't do that. There are a lot of people that can be funny, but they don't know how to play to a crowd. Play to a camera, especially. Cause when that red dot go on, that's a whole different animal, right?

[Carlos Miller]

And plus, the comedy that you selling to, like, a mainstream TV audience, it's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Different than what you.

[Carlos Miller]

Than what you could just really just.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Rock when it ain't nothing, right?

[Carlos Miller]

But I do got a dope team. My manager, she been in the game for a long time. She's been around all the big stars. Me and Dave Chappelle got the same manager. Ricky Hughes, she dope as hell, right? So, you know, I wanted to get somebody who knew the comedy world, but also knew the business side of it. So if she working with Dave Chappelle, who's one of the top comedians of this whole generation, it's like she can go over there and she got time to deal with me. And all this I got going on. I know that it's coming from a great place.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, a lot of times, people don't want someone that big. Cause they like, man, you got Chappelle. You ain't got no time for me. You ain't gonna put no time in me. Cause you got Chappell. And he all over. I mean, he selling out. He got Netflix specials, and he all over. He can put his stuff up and it's gone. And so when you gonna have a little time for little Carlos?

[Carlos Miller]

But I'm living in the dream. You know what I'm saying? Like, you've been a professional athlete. You know what it's like, It's a job. But, man, you used to love to put that damn Baltimore Raven on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

And just being there, just like, man, I can't believe that shit, bro. I was in Savannah State, and now you get what I'm saying? So, man, that I'm in the moment.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Carlos Miller]

That was some more great advice that I got, man. Make sure you find time to enjoy it, too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Can you? Can you?

[Carlos Miller]

Absolutely, absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause I can honestly say, Carlos, I don't really know if I really. I enjoyed the journey, really. Even though I was headed to a destination. I think that's the fun part about me is that the journey that I was on, but I didn't have time to think about it. I didn't get a chance because I was afraid I was going to get caught up and it was going to distract me and I wasn't going to be as focused, I wasn't going to be as hungry, I was not going to be as driven in order to finally get to that destination if I didn't do what I needed to do. So I don't know if I necessarily enjoyed it. Even though I was on that journey. I don't know if I enjoyed it until I stepped away from it.

[Carlos Miller]

You're still enjoying it? You still enjoying it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I'm talking about the football, man.

[Carlos Miller]

If it wasn't for the football. Ain't no club session.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I know, but I didn't enjoy when I was doing it. See you. And you say you enjoy as the process is happening.

[Carlos Miller]

Absolutely. Nah. Absolutely. Cause it's like. Like you said, I'm from August, Mississippi. It ain't nothing to go home to if this don't work out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Carlos Miller]

You know how many is waiting to see me back in the crib? I told you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, that's everywhere. Look at him. He right back here. Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

Hey, man, bring some more of this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He done got in the hall when you were on hell date, man. Cause that's a lot of this relationship thing because. And we gonna talk about the 50. 50 and what it takes about on the first date and how much you spend on the first date. So let me ask you this. What's the appropriate place to take someone on the first date? How much is the appropriate amount to spend on the first date?

[Carlos Miller]

That's a tricky question. You Always gotta come with the mulligans. It ain't no cent amount. How much do you like her? What's your budget? See, men, we lose because we don't plan enough, right? If you plan to date, you could plan within your own budget, right? So if you take her somewhere you. That you can afford, that you plan, right, it's gonna make it look like you had this whole thing laid out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What if she got. What if you pull up to the place and she like. She don't get out the car?

[Carlos Miller]

You gotta act like you excited. You gotta play it up. I heard so much about it. I heard the food is good. You gotta act like you ain't never been there before. What happened to game? What happened to game? What happened to game? Why did this get so complicated, right? Man, if you a dude and you make $1,000 a week, that's how much fun you gonna have. You gonna have fun. You gonna have $1,000 worth of fun.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Worth of fun, right?

[Carlos Miller]

If you got a million dollars, you gonna have a million dollars worth of fun. And everything that fall in between that. That's just what it is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But what if you make $1,000 a week? But she wasn't more 2005 hundreds.

[Carlos Miller]

She make 2,500.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, she used to like 25. She got a $2,500 budget.

[Carlos Miller]

Hey, man, that's where we went wrong at. A lot of dudes out here dating women that don't like them. If she already like you, it don't matter where you go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But, you know, we like to put our coverage. We like to get what we think we don't supposed to have.

[Carlos Miller]

I don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y'all do. I don't.

[Carlos Miller]

I'm not even. I'm not even pursu. If you don't already like me, we not going nowhere anyway.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But hold on, hold on, Carlos, you.

[Carlos Miller]

Got to like me immediately.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I'm saying. But you got to go introduce. I mean, look, I know you Carlos Miller. They know you Carlos Miller. But I mean, you got to, you know, you got to do a little court. You got to like, hey, how you doing? What's your name? I'm such and such. I'm sure.

[Carlos Miller]

No, I don't. That's the problem right there, man. Where you meeting them women at, man?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Meeting them.

[Carlos Miller]

That's what I'm telling you. I'm not meeting nobody. They meeting me. Y'all not using your fame, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man, give me a pen. I'm about to start writing these jokes.

[Carlos Miller]

Your fame, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm about to start writing these jokes, if that's what they do. When they coming out there like that.

[Carlos Miller]

You got. Look, you got a. You got a show. You got three, four NFL announcing job. Man, you six feet plus. You got muscles. And you rich. The hell is. Who you trying to impress? You know how many women already like you?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man, I'm from the old school, you know. You. Hey, how you doing? I'm.

[Carlos Miller]

Man, the old school. They done told old school ain't no old school. They know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They knew now, huh?

[Carlos Miller]

Hell no. Hell no, man. You crazy as hell. We gonna link on social media. I'll just send you some, okay? You ain't gonna go on. You don't know when you going on. Club Shay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Shay.

[Carlos Miller]

Look, I don't got nobody business to tell. They ain't gonna call me. I ain't got nothing but good shit to say. I don't hate nobody. I'm friends. I'm too cool.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They don't need me, right? So what about 50? 50? You go out on the date, if you take the. If you say okay. If the man asks the lady out, he's supposed to pay. If she asks him out, is she supposed to pay? Are we going 50? 50? How does work?

[Carlos Miller]

No, you old school when it comes to that. You take the lady out, you definitely gotta pay, right? Cause you can't go half with her then ask her for something later on. You can't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you.

[Carlos Miller]

Hold on. You can't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You can't ask it the first night though, Carlos. You gotta. Gotta wait like a couple of weeks, a couple of months.

[Carlos Miller]

Who told you this? Who you been, man?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm like old school. I got something.

[Carlos Miller]

Who you been?

[Shannon Sharpe]

They didn't do that. When I was growing up, they didn't do that. They didn't get. They ain't do that though.

[Carlos Miller]

Carlos, man, stop it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't lying.

[Carlos Miller]

Carlos, come on, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Not.

[Carlos Miller]

Not on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Not after one night. You take somebody out to eat and they go, oh, no, they don't do that. Call me.

[Carlos Miller]

Why? Why you doing all this?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm just saying.

[Carlos Miller]

I'm saying, I done seen you shoot your shot a few times.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, they ain't. They ain't hit nothing.

[Carlos Miller]

You ain't hitting nothing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, the turkey's still flying around. I ain't brought no turkey home for Thanksgiving yet.

[Carlos Miller]

Try it now. After that live, you might be able to pull something. Now, Unc, don't. Hey, these ladies out here rich as hell too. Now, I know sometimes you had to go out and you gotta show them what it's like when they coming on your side. So sometimes it's an investment, it's coming right back.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Carlos Miller]

Especially when you start shooting at these high profile ladies.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

They already got money. They got divorce money and all that, man. They don't be worried about your income like that. They be wanting somebody who fit the.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Aesthetic now, but the high profile. But you know what comes along with high profile?

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah, see, that's the thing. A lot of men don't know how to play their position no more. If your lady had profile. Shut the up. Shut up. Riding your in your truck and your haircut and shut up. Let her get that money.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Where's the best place to meet a woman?

[Carlos Miller]

At work, at her job.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, you can't, you can't talk to somebody at your work at her job. You can't met if you work there. You can't mess with somebody saying, for.

[Carlos Miller]

Instance, she work at a hospital, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

And then you down there, your little boy got asthma or something. You see what I'm saying? Like, you need to see her and her job.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, okay, okay. I thought you said like, okay, you.

[Carlos Miller]

At work, like if you at Amazon and you delivering to a crib, you might just leave that one. But if you catch her at her job, it's a whole different story.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you know, let me ask you a question. See, like, you see a nice looking lady, you deliver a package to her house, she nice looking, she ain't gonna probably go give you the time of day, right? But if a nice looking chick delivered that package, that same Amazon driver, she a lady and she nice looking. And she deliver a package to Carlos house. Carla, hey, let me holler you, what's up? Why is it like that, Carlos? Why they don't give us the time of day if they see us dressed up in a nine to five but a dude. But if a young lady working a 9 to 5 and she like that, we don't care.

[Carlos Miller]

Because women know how to add. They can add up about how much money you making. So they like, they like, they like men who got disposable income. Cause when a woman really looking at you, she trying to see like it ain't about if you sexy or not. It's like what your lifestyle looking like. Now if I bring this over here to where you at, how you gonna upgrade that, right? So a lot of dudes be trying to like, they be trying to pull that. You know what I mean? Pull something that ain't really for them. Like that ain't in Your league? Don't nobody want nobody in their league.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, they don't.

[Carlos Miller]

But a player like me, yeah, I'm trying to holler at who like me, right? I ain't doing no impressing. I'm not impressive. You just gotta already like me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But, you know, hey, them delivery people, they making break now. You see what Brown can do for you. They making big bank.

[Carlos Miller]

They always have.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They did.

[Carlos Miller]

They always.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man, I should have got me a job there when I was in school.

[Carlos Miller]

Bro, you ain't getting no job. You never had no job. He had no job, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I did. I did have. I had manual jobs when I was growing up.

[Carlos Miller]

Like what?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I worked in tobacco field. I clipped.

[Carlos Miller]

Where in the hell is a tobacco field? Some of your stories be older than you. No, I've been listening to your stories.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We grew up in a concrete house. No, we didn't. Bathroom. Where? South Georgia.

[Carlos Miller]

You said there wasn't no bathroom in the house.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, none. Thousand square foot, cinder block, cement floors, 10 roof. You take it to the house? I can take it there and see it.

[Carlos Miller]

It ain't there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's there.

[Carlos Miller]

For real?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, we. I ain't in there. I don't think nobody lived there, but yeah. Oh, yeah. Drink well water. Absolutely.

[Carlos Miller]

That's what I'm saying. You come from very humble beginnings.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Very, very. I still am. And I don't want to go back. That's why I worked so hard, Carlos. Cause I knew what it was like. I know what it's like to be me, too.

[Carlos Miller]

That's what I'm saying.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Carlos Miller]

That's what I'm saying. So I can't. I can't be having no lady who just. All she bout is money. Cause we going to Oxford sometime and they don't even sell Louis Vuitton. And Oxford, we don't have no Gucci store.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Carlos Miller]

Ain't no mall.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Carlos Miller]

Ain't even nowhere to buy nothing expensive, baby.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

We finna kick it out here in the yard and let these mosquitoes bite your ass. Yeah, we gonna see how much love.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The most expensive thing in a small town. Like what we got of the tank of gas. Come on, go. Cost you about 75.

[Carlos Miller]

You finna go to Walmart and you can get whatever you want to. Now that's balding to me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Have you ever used a dating site?

[Carlos Miller]

I ain't never been on there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't either.

[Carlos Miller]

I ain't never been on there. Social media is about as close to a dating site as I'm gonna get. I don't really do all that. I like to meet them in person anyway. Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause they be adding them filters, and they don't be looking like that in real life like they be looking on that on them social media pages.

[Carlos Miller]

Ain't nothing wrong with that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, it is. Listen, if you tell me you got a car, a 19, if you selling me a 2017 car, say you got 70,000 miles on it, bro, how you gonna come up here to think dent it all up? It ain't got its own blocks.

[Carlos Miller]

It ride like it's brand new.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It died.

[Carlos Miller]

So that's really been the problem, though. You're like. You ain't finding the ones that look like.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Look, man, look, I work. I work a lot. You think you work a lot? I work a lot. I do five. I mean, we doing four shows a week of nightcap Ocho, and I about to go to five days a week. I got two days a week on first take with Stephen A. And then I shoot Club Sh Sh. Shay one to two times a week now.

[Carlos Miller]

How much you spending on these days? Come on, now, come on, come on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, now. I got bread now.

[Carlos Miller]

You been had bread?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I didn't have no bread.

[Carlos Miller]

You a Super bowl champion. You're not finna sit up here and act like we got the same money. I'm not finna go for that shit. You being rich and famous. 96, 94.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no.

[Carlos Miller]

When the Broncos had the orange jersey, he was on there, man. He brought that paper.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But here's the thing, though. I was a seventh round draft pick.

[Carlos Miller]

Your brother got paper, too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That was his paper.

[Carlos Miller]

He still looked out like.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, he did enough to get me motivated to see what he had. Knowing that I wanted that. I saw the house with three car garage. It had indoor plumbing. I saw central heating and cooling. I wanted that. But I made 63. I made 63,000 my first year.

[Carlos Miller]

What about them other 20 you played?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, but I'm talking about in the beginning.

[Carlos Miller]

What about. No, see, that's the pass.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I got bread now, so it's not a thing. But I look at it like this here. I look at it in the back like, okay, you know what I believe if she came with her girls, she was still ordered like this. If I look at you and all of a sudden you talking about you want the seafood tower and that thing got six lobster tails and five crab claws and all scallops and. No, no, no, no, no.

[Carlos Miller]

Come on. You ain't telling me you putting these women on no budget, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm on a budget.

[Carlos Miller]

No. Hell no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, I am. I don't believe that I'm on a budget.

[Carlos Miller]

Come on, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm a poor hustler, man.

[Carlos Miller]

You still getting Undisputed money. Stop lying to these folks.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I get it. This your show.

[Carlos Miller]

You don't want nobody asking you for nothing. You got paper.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Undisputed Money stopped.

[Carlos Miller]

You got glasses on. You getting paper?

[Shannon Sharpe]

It stopped a couple of months ago. The Undisputed money.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Carlos Miller]

You can call me Detective Alex Cross.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Based on characters created by James Patterson.

[Carlos Miller]

Detective Cross, you've been doing this a long time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you're the best and creative. Created by Ben Watkins.

[Carlos Miller]

Multiple victims I connected to this comes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

A thrilling new series.

[Carlos Miller]

He's a serial killer.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't kill for fun.

[Carlos Miller]

This thinks he's the smartest guy in the room.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's a lot of sickos out there.

[Carlos Miller]

He actually believes he's an artist.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You're going to be part of a masterpiece. This is the product of an unbelievable obsession. Aldous Hodge is DC's finest. Alex Cross. If we don't find him soon, we may never have enough. Another chance again. 30 years. Knowing Cross, I learned to trust his gut.

[Carlos Miller]

I get inside his head.

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The clock's ticking.

[Carlos Miller]

He was hitting my house.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He messed with my kids. He's got to be getting close. You think you can stop him?

[Carlos Miller]

I know I can.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because I Know him better than he knows himself. Cross. A new original series only on Prime Video. Watch now.

[Carlos Miller]

They got. They got something for you. You getting some residual?

[Shannon Sharpe]

They get no residual skill.

[Carlos Miller]

Come on, Skip.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No.

[Carlos Miller]

You getting paid?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No.

[Carlos Miller]

NFL Network.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I'm a espn.

[Carlos Miller]

The hall of Fame.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They don't send no checks for the hall of Fame.

[Carlos Miller]

They send you some money for having bad knees now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, they don't.

[Carlos Miller]

You don't get no retirement.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I've been out here. I haven't taken my retirement yet.

[Carlos Miller]

That goes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What am I gonna take my retirement for? I don't need it.

[Carlos Miller]

What you mean? Oh, you got so much paper you don't need it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what I'm saying.

[Carlos Miller]

Stop playing. You and Ocho getting independent money. Y'all got a podcast.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, we doing okay.

[Carlos Miller]

Y'all got.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, we doing okay.

[Carlos Miller]

You doing ads. You done partnered up with La Portier, all that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got paper. You got a little part right here. That's money when you get the part. But I've had this part since 72. It's the only haircut I've ever had.

[Carlos Miller]

That's what I'm saying, bro. You done trademarked the whole no trademark. Come on, you bullshit, Monk.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I know you on you.

[Carlos Miller]

Don't be taking them, letting them get sick. Lobsters. Take them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm allergic to shellfish. So? You can't even eat seafood around me.

[Carlos Miller]

Let her get the six.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, she can get. She can get the steak, though.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Good fish take out.

[Carlos Miller]

Let her act a fool with it. She can't eat more than you can buy. No, she can't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Matt, Look, I think 300 good is a good budget.

[Carlos Miller]

It ain't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

300 ain't no good budget.

[Carlos Miller]

Absolutely not. It's Atlanta. You know what I mean? Drug dealers and scammers and Steelers and robbers and athletes. We got the Atlanta Hawks, the Falcons, the Braves. You know how much money? Baseball players, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I do.

[Carlos Miller]

So if you catch her after she been down there in Lennox with one of them Atlanta Braves and you show up with $300.

[Shannon Sharpe]

See you. See y'all. You name. Now, which one of those teams Shannon Sharp play for? The Falcons, the Braves, the Hawks, the MLS team. Which one? He play for Club Shay.

[Carlos Miller]

Shay, you got that paper, man? Stop playing. It. Ain't but a few of them that got it. You got it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Have you ever had a bad experience going over to a woman's house?

[Carlos Miller]

Absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What happened?

[Carlos Miller]

One time I was over a girl house and a dude showed up. They was downstairs talking. This nigga came upstairs and like, hey, she a good woman. Take care of her. And he left. That was the weirdest. Yeah, that was the weirdest.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He supposed to have a tax you. You ain't had no jewelry on or nothing. He supposed to let me get that apartment.

[Carlos Miller]

I don't wear jewelry. My whole thing is to look like I don't have nothing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He came upstairs, said, hey, man, you're a good woman, man. You got your good one here. Yeah, take care of her.

[Carlos Miller]

He was hurt, too. I don't know what she was whispering to him down there about, but this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Was why he came upstairs, how he knew you was upstairs.

[Carlos Miller]

I guess she told him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Lord.

[Carlos Miller]

How much you know? I wasn't worried. I had that 40 on me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, okay, okay.

[Carlos Miller]

I'm not coming over there without that 40.

[Shannon Sharpe]

See, you see, that's why I stopped. Cause they told me I couldn't bring my. I couldn't bring that stick over there. So I say, I can't come over there.

[Carlos Miller]

I ain't going over there without that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, but it stopped me from. I had a bad experience. And, you know, I was sleep.

[Carlos Miller]

He had the whole.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, no, I wasn't asleep that time. Me and my homeboy Bucky, he told a story. People thought I was lying. I called her, and she's like. I just say, I'm in town. She's like, well, come back over. So we turn around because we had just left campus because she lived close to campus. We turn around, open the door. She got a. You know, she got a robe on. She said, well, come on back here. Let me. I want to talk to you. I told my homeboy, I said, bucket. You know, he got a jet. He grabbed a Jet magazine. So we about five minutes in. I done took my. You know, took my necklace off and set my, you know, bracelet, something rolling. I got a diamond rolling. I done took that off. By this time, I see the door handler turning. I said to my homeboy, no, I ain't on no Amtrak stuff. I don't even know what going on. So by this time, the door swing open. Dude, got that chopper.

[Carlos Miller]

I said, lord have mercy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I say, my man, this your people? He said, yeah, two years. I said, oh, Lord. He said, my man, you. I said, yeah, I'm him. He said, I thought so.

[Carlos Miller]

I thought so.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I said, my man, my bad. I said, my bad. Bad. I said, bro, I ain't know. I put my shirt back on. He got me shook. Now, Carlos, because you know a now. But I'M thinking in the back of my mind. I said, but damn, my homeboy, I ain't let him get the drop on me. His partner had the sawed off on him, so that's why he ain't tell me nothing. I didn't know this till later. One came in through the front, the other came in through the back.

[Carlos Miller]

Oh, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So check this out. We leaving. I said, God dang, man, I left my watch and my bracelet. He said, man, forget that. I said, whatever. Ben, stop this mofo. I'm gonna go get that. I went right back over the door. I said, my man, let me get that watch and bracelet off the dress. He said, here you go. He handed it to me. So we pull it off. They get to fighting. She run out the house. Robe, tour. Don't leave me. Don't leave me. She dropped in the truck with us and left. I said, now, that's the Carlos. That was the second time. The first time, I had just got drafted, came back, and I didn't want to drive all the way home because I didn't want to wake my grandmother up because she's going to be panicked because she didn't know I would have been coming home. So I asked. I said, you seeing anybody? No. I said, you mind if I spend the night? No. I could have just took my tail to La Quinta, spending that little $50. But, you know, see. But anyway, man, I'm laying there, Carlos, I'm like this here. You ever lay something you ever had to, like, sleep paralysis? You could hear things, but you can't move.

[Carlos Miller]

Absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

After a while, I hear people arguing. It's getting louder and louder. After a while, boom, the dope fly off the hinges. So you know, hey, I just got drafted in NFL. I'm 6 foot 2, I'm 21 years old, and I'm prime athletic. I jump up like, what it is. And then I look at him. Oh, Lord, he got some bodies on his WrestleMania. I know who he is. I say, my man. He say, sharp, man, bro, I'm so proud of you, man. I be telling the homie, I know you, man. I'm proud. Congratulations, man. I used to watch you at Savannah State. He like, I said, bro, I said, I ain't know. He said, sharp. I ain't got no problem with you. He said, but I'm tired of this beat line. I'm putting my shoes on. I say, me, too. So that was that. That. That last time when the dude pulled a chop on me. That was 93. I have not closed My eyes at a woman house.

[Carlos Miller]

Since I don't blame you, I said.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And people talk.

[Carlos Miller]

Oh.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh. What you mean, oh? If a dog bites you, the likelihood of you going to buy a dog is not very likely because you have a traumatic experience with said situation. Dude, dude, don't walk over me. A chopper. Dude. Got bodies on the resume. Kick the door in. And you think I'm supposed to just like go over there and they just like.

[Carlos Miller]

You don't understand that you just got drafted.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Carlos Miller]

Anywhere that you would have took her, that was yours. She was gonna be impressed. You could have had a one bedroom condo downtown.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't have no place, though. I was in college. I'm sleeping in the dorm. We can't have nobody in the dorm. I don't know how it is now, but you a athlete.

[Carlos Miller]

When you start listening to them people.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. I follow the rules, Carlos. Cause they'd have kicked you out. They kicked me out of school.

[Carlos Miller]

No, they wouldn't. You the only one going to the NFL on the whole team, Carlos.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm telling you, bro, you.

[Carlos Miller]

You Shannon Shaw.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I know you the star player.

[Carlos Miller]

You think you finna get kicked off the team?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I wouldn't. A woman. I would have. I would have. Because they gonna make an example out of me. And first, Second of all, my brother's Sterling Sharp, so I don't want to do anything that's going to bring shame or disappointment to him.

[Carlos Miller]

And.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And I'm Mary Porter's grandson, so I always factored that in. Cause before that, now, you absolutely right. I'd have been a little more. I'd have been a little bit more reckless.

[Carlos Miller]

My grandma would have been so proud of me. Yeah. My grandson down there getting all the hoes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. He running through him. You said you wanted to legalize prostitution?

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah. Why? Medical prostitution?

[Shannon Sharpe]

What kind of medical is prostitution?

[Carlos Miller]

Think of how much depression is out here. Think of how many young men out here. Sad. Nothing to look forward to. They don't even know how to talk to women. They need that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Lord.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah. Everybody don't got access to go live like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Lord. I heard of medical marijuana. Yeah, but medical prostitution?

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah. I think there should be an industry that is regulated that people can enjoy. And it would take a lot of stress off going 50, 50 and where to take her for a date. A lot of people don't have conversations like that. It's just a means to an end. And if they did it right and clean and kept everybody safe, it'd be dope It'd be dope. It probably decreased the violence. Crime would go down, employment would go up. Cause if you knew that you could spend this money having a whole great weekend, that might inspire somebody to work a little harder, might help the economy. Look at what the marijuana industry did for Colorado now. Just think about what the vagina industry will do for America. Prostitution, the oldest profession in the world. Hey, come on now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Just need to be regulated, huh?

[Carlos Miller]

Need to be regulated.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who started Safe and Healthy? Who started the hashtag black men don't cheat? Was that you, Duvall, who started that?

[Carlos Miller]

No, that was.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You started.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah, he got that for me because I'm tired of being misrepresented, bro. Black men, most disrespected man on the whole planet, bro. Don't nobody give us credit for nothing. We just. We don't have no representation. We are the most disrespected, and, you know, we the most sought after.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

And we ain't. We ain't really out here like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why? Now? What made you come to that revelation?

[Carlos Miller]

What, that black men don't cheat? Yeah, I'm a black man. I'm a black man. In order to cheat, you gotta be with somebody, right? If you ain't with nobody, that ain't cheating.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So in other words, as long as you don't have a partner, right, you should be able to, like, sleep with this one. That one.

[Carlos Miller]

Ain't nobody said nothing about no sleeping. If you a black man and your woman white, you can cheat.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How you come to that conclusion?

[Carlos Miller]

What you mean? Why would. Why wouldn't you cheat?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, if you're in a relationship, is that what you supposed to do?

[Carlos Miller]

She white.

[Shannon Sharpe]

She a woman. You chose. Like, I want you to be my woman. I want to be in a relationship with you. I mean, white, black, Hispanic, Asian, whatever.

[Carlos Miller]

No, nah. Black men don't cheat. Black men, the most faithful man out here, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Do women believe you?

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah, sometimes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What you mean sometimes?

[Carlos Miller]

Sometimes, bro, you know how they just like to be objective sometimes. But, you know, I feel like, as a black man, you got a lot to prove out, right? So I definitely. I don't know any black man that's out here cheating. I ain't never seen it, Right. I don't know nobody that cheated. Nobody.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, I heard you say that.

[Carlos Miller]

Sometimes they try to set you up and make it look like you cheat, right? Like, they'll sneak and throw you on live and then make it sound like you on there cheating. But it ain't even cheating. You see how you can fall into the trap easy. Yeah, exactly.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, now they know you know.

[Carlos Miller]

That it's a setup.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I heard you say that people should stop trying to change people.

[Carlos Miller]

Absolutely. Why would you?

[Shannon Sharpe]

So in other words, I agree. Accept the person as you find them, not how you wish them to be.

[Carlos Miller]

Yep. And sometimes you gotta. You can't be looking for yourself and other people. Just cause you doing right don't mean everybody gonna act right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Carlos Miller]

So you just gotta know what you dealing with. If you met that girl in the club and she was. She was dancing, why would you tell her to stop? You can't change her. That's who she is. You just need to accept would come with it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I'm like that. Look, if I meet somebody and they dress and I like, ooh. Now all of a sudden I get with that person. Now you can't dress like that no more. No, that's what I was attracted. I mean, I like that. I was attracted to that. I ain't gonna change. I don't want you to stop.

[Carlos Miller]

You gotta have some security in yourself.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, for sure.

[Carlos Miller]

Knowing that it don't matter if she a freak or if she a church girl, if she gonna be on some on demon time, she gonna be on there anyway. It ain't nothing you can do to stop that. You can, you could try to intervene or delay it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But she gonna be who she be.

[Carlos Miller]

She gonna be who she is, man. And I tell people all the time, just be what you be. Just don't include me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you also said women should stop trying to create the perfect man. What did you mean by that?

[Carlos Miller]

Well, a lot of women have this idea of the great perfect man. Right. And it's not even something that they really want. That's just what they heard somebody else want.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Carlos Miller]

Like that don't make sense.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I want a guy, he need to be over six foot tall, he need to be educated, he need to be well rounded. He need to be.

[Carlos Miller]

Would you need a man that tall for you? You ain't tall. You got high cabinets in there. Yeah. You need a man that's six, seven foot.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He needs to be well read. He got to want to travel when there ain't been nowhere. Why? But I'm just saying. But that's what they want.

[Carlos Miller]

A lot of people won't accept that. The type of person that they attracted to don't even like them. It's a cold world.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It is.

[Carlos Miller]

I mean, it sound good. It's cool to have standards or it's cool to have a wish list. But they don't like you like all the man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, the man that you looking for ain't necessarily looking for you.

[Carlos Miller]

When the last time you seen a tall man with a tall ass woman? Tall men ain't even attracted to tall women. They like short women. So then they take all the short women, then they leave all the tall women out here. Now it's just a bunch of short dudes trying to talk to tall women. And tall women don't like short men. But short men love tall women. The tall women looking for the tall dudes. But the tall dudes done stole all the short women, so the short dudes can't have no short women. It's crazy. It's stupid. They be like, they want a rich man. Rich men don't. Ain't no rich dude sitting around like, I wonder what Keisha with them three kids is up to. I feel like changing her life today. It don't happen. It's just unreal.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know what? And women try to guilt us in talking about you. Like, when they have kids. You know, two kids, three kids, or however many kids they have, which is not a problem. It's not a problem. But you can't guilt a man talking about he ain't no man if he can't take care of you and your kids.

[Carlos Miller]

I mean, what. Where they daddy at? Why is that a big problem when you ask where they dad at?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right. Right.

[Carlos Miller]

I mean, there's a lot of dudes that would accept women for kids.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Like, with kids, I ain't got no problem. Cause I dated women with kids. I ain't got no problem with that.

[Carlos Miller]

Why you out here doing this?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Do what?

[Carlos Miller]

You don't love yourself enough? No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You just told me I should. Like who? Like me?

[Carlos Miller]

Oh, you don't have to accept everything. You put all that. You went to the gym and did all that practicing, all that running all them touchdowns to be a stepdaddy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't look at it no step. I'm a real daddy, man.

[Carlos Miller]

You ain't. You ain't. You're the father that stepped up. Oh, no. Hell, no. You. You downplaying yourself, man. So come on, now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I like who like me?

[Carlos Miller]

You ain't gotta. Like, I'm like that all the time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, but I'm saying, hey, look, I don't have a problem. Cause a lot of times, you know, I ain't really looking. Cause a lot of. A lot of times women might, you know, that I might be interested in. They wanna have kids, and I don't know I'm 56.

[Carlos Miller]

So.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Bro, I'm not finna be going to no graduation. They talking about. Hey, hey, Riley, your granddaddy out there.

[Carlos Miller]

You should do it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That ain't my granddaddy. That's my daddy, fool. No, no, that happened.

[Carlos Miller]

You 56. Don't be putting them old ass babies in them ladies.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Thank you. And when they got kids, they don't want no more.

[Carlos Miller]

I feel you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Aha.

[Carlos Miller]

It's all good. But if you gonna be out there dealing with them kids. Mama man, you shedding. Sharp. Now you gotta make sure you take care of you. Turn em on to some. Put some Nikes on em and all that, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah, for sure.

[Carlos Miller]

Can't just be out there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, no, no, no, no.

[Carlos Miller]

You ever dealt with a woman who had a son who was good at ball and he was like, hey, he might do something?

[Shannon Sharpe]

The thing is, like, when I dated women that had kids, they can't ask me for bags. They can't ask me for anything because I'm only gonna do for the kids. Because, no, I'm not finna buy, you know, Louis Vuitton. And you got a kid out here that needs school clothes, that need. And maybe need a tutor, not anybody.

[Carlos Miller]

You messing the economy up when you do that. If you Shannon Sharp and you deal with some. Don't you understand that you might be her only chance to get that bag.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That got nothing to do with me. And then she gonna be. Guess what? And she gonna be carried with another dude.

[Carlos Miller]

No, you can't. You.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's.

[Carlos Miller]

See, that's not sad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, you wanna.

[Carlos Miller]

When you find them, you wanna leave them better than you found them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Big end.

[Carlos Miller]

If you find her and she. And she bad, but she got that Michael Kors on. And then she deal with Unc for something. You supposed to get a two or three bags. You supposed to take that 07 and turn it at least to a 17. You gotta leave it. You can't just be out here reaching.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't got. I ain't got it. Like, Carlos, I don't know what you think I got bread like that, Carlos, I don't.

[Carlos Miller]

Looking at your crew and they like, hey, tell them. Hey, tell them. You gotta stop you being cheap out here. You acting like Ocho. Nah, Ocho done rubbed off on you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. No, I take. I mean, I help.

[Carlos Miller]

I don't see it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I help.

[Carlos Miller]

You just said you ain't gonna get her a bag. Cause you worry about who else she wearing it with. You got the host them games. You ain't gonna be there all the time. So when you get in that bag and then I come in town for my show, I'm like, oh, Unc didn't put that little bag on you. Oh, that's why you ain't answering my call no more?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No. Just say, this is how it goes in the beginning. If you. All you ask is for stuff for the kids, where the kids want to go to summer camp, where the kids need to be enrolled in this and the kids need to be rolling that. That shows me that you focus. Then I'll do like, okay, you know what? Boom. I hit it with a little bath.

[Carlos Miller]

So you acting like you got a job, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I do.

[Carlos Miller]

I don't like that. Don't like that, Man. See this. This is why the black economy is messed up, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I got. I got kids too. I got a sister that I take care of. I got a brother I take care of. I got a mom I take care of. I got responsibilities.

[Carlos Miller]

Mm. Mm. You supposed to show up like Goldie and be like, look, stay in school. You can be anything you wanna be.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I do.

[Carlos Miller]

Come here. Let me give y'all some of this money. That's how it supposed to be, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh. Oh. That's why.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah. Quit being sningy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I guess so. That's why 56. Carlos, I don't know where you think I got this enormous or this absorbent amount of money.

[Carlos Miller]

Do you understand? You got about 20 minutes of football highlights on. On YouTube.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't get paid for those.

[Carlos Miller]

Shake did more numbers than Joe Rogan. You got liquor. I'm sure you got sponsorship from these little comfortable sweatsuits you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We working on, we working on. We working on. We ain't got it yet. We ain't got it yet.

[Carlos Miller]

Come on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We ain't got it.

[Carlos Miller]

You ain't got no little strapless bags.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And no, I ain't got the bag today.

[Carlos Miller]

Who doing your marketing for? You need to holla at me? Me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Okay, I'm. You hook it up. Hey, I can talk to n. Because then what you call go happen, and then the women going to see this and say, but Carlos don't hook you up so to break me off, bro.

[Carlos Miller]

I'm telling you, they already know anyway.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't got.

[Carlos Miller]

First of all, whatever I a get into all that, man. The streets are talking.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two is also posted, and you can access it to whichever podcast platform you just listened to. Part one of just simply go back to Club Shape Profile and I'll see you there.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Switch, no one can stop you.

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