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What do you feel like is the foulest thing that you've ever done on a date?
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We got into some type of argument for some reason and I was like, what we arguing like? It got to the point I was just like, get out in the middle of downtown.
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As a grown woman, you shouldn't be shaving your cooter.
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You ain't never had somebody like, play play with that.
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Maybe I'm moaning. I'm oh yes.
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You know, I'm getting myself going. I don't need you to be doing all of that. Shut up. Be quiet. Used to get to talking, doing all that. Ah, shut up. You messing up my content.
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So you just want someone to be. What if she's like, oh yes, daddy.
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Shut up. I got this.
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What?
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What's your preferred toy of choice?
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Lord, this is getting a little too extra dark. Would you get into a relationship with an AI companion?
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It depends on if it's hidden. He walked in, he was the middle of it, like, who are you? Damn. God damn. You walked in. He was just making sound effects. What you doing? Woo.
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I mean, you can he like, damn. It would just be like, damn, you don't even do all that we have.
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This is the taking over the game. All right, everybody. Welcome to Truth After Dark.
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Do you think that men or women are more toxic? Hello, beautiful people. Welcome to another episode of the Truth After Dark. I'm your host, Azar Faraday.
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Truth in the building.
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How you feeling tonight?
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I'm good. What's up? What's up?
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What's up? So a lot going on, huh? Yeah. It was your birthday.
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Yeah.
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How you feeling now that you really cooked?
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Really cooked. I'm really cooked. Damn. I don't think men get cooked.
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I don't either. 70 even they could still get cracking after 70. Men don't have that expiration date.
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Yeah, my boy Al Pacino still having babies. Yeah, he like 80 something.
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They be doing that big one, man be popping Belichick.
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Popping.
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Lord.
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Okay, yeah. What's going on?
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So let's get into it. So LeBron was just on his wife's pod and. And he said that there's a lot of ruthless ass bitches. That's his words exactly. Who do men dirty. Do you agree?
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Ruthless, man. Of course I agree with that, man. Because women are way more ruthless. Like, like this is the thing. Women be out here setting dudes up, getting them robbed, getting them killed, doing all type of. Giving all type of traps out. Men don't do that to females. You know what I'm saying?
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Yeah.
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So when you say ruthless, it's an evil world. And girls, sometimes, some women have just a one track mind. I'm gonna get this dude set up. I'm gonna try to get him child support robbed. Things like, Jesus, we gotta look out for all type of shit. Like, for real, you really gotta be careful and really vet the person that you trying to hang out with. You know, everything can be all good and dandy. The next thing you know, you getting robbed. You know what I'm saying? That happens a lot. That, that happens a lot. And that's just. I mean, men don't do that. Men don't do that to other. To women. You know, women are out here doing like that and it's just, man. I mean, I don't know if he meant it in that type of context or, you know, like I've seen it in divorces where the woman tries to take everything he gave her a life. And women be trying to take it all like, damn, you know, where did the love go at some point? You know, it's just like, damn. I think things like that is kind of ruthless. It's like when you try to. It's almost like trying to strip a man down to just naked bare knuckles. Like how they do you in jail.
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Damn.
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I mean, I'm just saying. I mean, bend over, cough all that. Bend over, cough all that.
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Make sure there's nothing in there, man. Do you think that women or men are. Who's quicker to be able to like turn off their feelings and go cold? Do you think it's women or men?
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It's men. I mean. No, no, no. Hell no. It's always women.
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You think women. I feel like women are more emotional. It's harder. Like if I love someone, I can't just be like, I'm turning off my feelings and I'm going cold.
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Turn off and go cold. Damn. I think, hmm. I don't know. Because the get back is always because of the man. I feel like.
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What you mean the get back? Oh, like getting back together. Yeah, it's cause the man is blagging.
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And he's initiating, initiating all the get backs. I think we do all the get back more so.
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But is it because the man is doing the wronging and that's why he asked me to do all the get backs.
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I mean, it don't matter who do all the wrong. Time heals all. But men is doing the get back.
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But it's just like men are doing the get back cause they're the ones dogging the women most of the time. Don't you think? And that's. Cause what is the woman gonna be doing to get back? But you're the one who fucked up. That don't make sense. I'm begging to get you back. But you cheated on me yesterday. Like of course you're gonna do the get back.
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I think women cheat more than men.
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I still have not seen that statistic to be true. I do think that men get caught more cause men are more sloppy, they change the routine.
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I think. Cause men don't look as hard as women too. Unless you just obvious signs like, you know, not all answering your phone, like just weird. Just not just doing stuff like when you just out of the norm, out of character.
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Yeah, for sure.
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Stuff that you do and you just be like, damn. And so. But you know, men don't really harp on it like women do.
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Yeah, but I think that it goes both ways. I feel like with men, they hold on to things, which makes it worse. I think at least a woman is just like, we'll ask, we'll communicate, we'll have that conversation, you know what I mean? And I think men harp by holding onto it and then they create resentment.
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Women know what to do to make a man forget. Women know what to do to make a man forget.
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I don't know.
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Yeah, yeah, you know.
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No, I don't know.
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Women know what to do to make a man forget. If you did something wrong to him, you know what to do. So you're gonna be like, damn, I'm good, baby, I'm good. Shoot.
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No, but men be bringing shit up and try to throw shit in your face too, just like a woman does.
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Oh, and when a man bring it.
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Up, you know what to do every time.
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You know what to do every time. Okay, Every time you're gonna be like, my bad.
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I don't feel like women cheat more than men. I still cannot get behind that. I'm gonna keep it real. And I'm a stand tall on that and 10 toes down because I have yet to see a whole bunch of women cheating. Like, I don't believe that. Like, I don't see a whole bunch of women cheating all the time. Like, I think women do cheat and I think they get away with it a lot more slicker and quicker than men. And I've said that before, but I still think that men might have women beat with that one because men have more temptations and desires. I think if a cheating, it's genuinely because she's checked out the relationship and she's no longer interested and she's just like, I'm over this shit, right at this point, he's done cheated. He done did X, Y and Z and I'mma cheat back. And I'm going to be like, I don't see why else are you cheating then?
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Because you cheating because you never really liked him. You just like the situation he put you in.
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Oh, yeah, that's deep.
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You know what I'm saying?
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I never heard of that. But that's real. I mean, I've heard of that, but that's real. How you put that? Okay, so people are just in a situation because it's helpful to them type shit.
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Okay, so you just gonna roll along with it and still do you and.
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Still cheat the whole time? That makes sense. I could get her behind that. I could believe that for sure. So back to what LeBron says. What do you think the dirtiest thing you've ever heard a woman do to a man or a woman do to you?
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What is the dirtiest thing you ever heard a woman do to a man.
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Or, like, do to you? Like, what do you feel like is like, bottom of the barrel man or.
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A woman do to A man. Well, for me, I think, like, if you take care of somebody and they steal from you.
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Facts. I agree with that.
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Bottom of the barrel for me.
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That's the bottom of the barrel for me too.
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Bottom. Bottom of the barrel. Like if you my girl or something and we've been together or something for a long time or. And you still.
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Yeah, that's bottom of the barrel.
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Like, you know, I've been able to get over cheating. I've been able to get over like maybe even being lied to.
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Yeah.
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But like, stealing is the worst, I feel like. Cause that's that. Cause it just. Like we talked about this before. Cause I think. Cause it cover all. It covers everything.
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Yeah, we never talked about on the show, but yeah, we have talked about that. It covers everything.
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Yeah, lying covers. I mean, stealing covers lying and cheating.
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Yeah, for sure.
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Like, cheating is just cheating.
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And if you're willing to steal, what else are you willing to do? Like, that's dirty.
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Damn, that's crazy.
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I agree 100%. What do you feel like is the foulest thing that you've ever done on a date? Like, have you ever left someone mid meal or, like, just decided, like, you're not gonna.
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Foul is a strong word.
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Like, you know, have you ever walked out on someone on a date and been like, you know what, I'm not, I'm not. I'm leaving, but. Or have you ever decided, like, oh, I'm gonna make this girl pay for the dinner? Have you ever done anything of that nature?
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A lot.
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You've done that?
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Yeah.
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Which one? Both.
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I mean, I've done. I remember one case, I was. Oh, no. I remember I went out with this girl. We went to a spot. This is before Uber. It was like here, downtown, la. And then we got into some type of argument for some reason, and I was like, what we arguing? Like, it got to the point I was just like, get out in the middle of downtown.
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And this was a day.
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This is just a day.
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Yeah.
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Okay. I was like, you gotta get out. Kicked her out right there. And like, it was a dark place too.
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You kicked her out a dark alley downtown?
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It was like in the parking lot at a spot. At a parking lot, though. And it was like, no, Uber then.
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Why would you. That's fact.
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Because I don't deal with disrespect either. It was something that happened that was disrespectful.
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It was like super disrespectful.
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Yeah, it was disrespectful. Respectful. And that's one thing I won't tolerate ever. So I was like, you gotta get out right now. And then. And the crazy thing about it, I didn't see the girl for, like, some years. And then I ran back and I ran into her, But I told her about it, you know, I was like, damn, you can't. You know, and we became cool again. But it wasn't like, I don't know, like, trying to get with her no more. It was just like. Just cool. Like I see her or something. It would just be cool.
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Damn cold.
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I. I didn't get that. I didn't. Walked out on the. On the middle of a dinner. Like, I'm good.
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You just got up and walked out.
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Okay, I'm good. I'm not feeling this.
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And just left her with the bill and everything.
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No, I was just like, here, Boom, boom, boom. Here. I'm out. I'm good.
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What was said, like, why? What makes it something else needs?
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Oh.
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What was said, like, what made you do that? What makes someone remember.
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Okay, so one day I went out. She came in some. She. This is our first date. She came in a sweatsuit. And I was just like. It was me and my boy. I had my boy come sit at the table over there. You know, he's just watching me, making sure I'm straight.
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Yeah.
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And I was just like. She came in a sweatsuit, and I was just like, damn, this how you coming? And so I was like, you know what? I'm good. And I got up and was like, hey, man, you know, get her. You know, you stay here, eat with her, have a drink. And I'm out.
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Cause she came in the sweatsuit. He felt like it was disrespectful.
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Yeah, this the first day. You don't come in no goddamn sweatsuit. Like, this is our first date. This is what you think of me? I'm taking you to this nice restaurant and you came in a sweatsuit. This is how you felt. Like, I'm good. You not my type off the jump. Cause you didn't know to put the heels on and get nice for the date. You know what I'm saying? That's what. Like that. I'm like, no, I'm good. I got up and just like, all right, you know my boy gonna stay. I gotta bounce.
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Damn, that's cold blooded. I bet she didn't show up in a sweatsuit again after that.
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There wasn't no more dates.
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No, I'm saying just in her life. She probably was like, yeah, I'm not. She learned her lesson because of that.
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Shit, Yeah, I'm cool on that. Like, it's this. If you on a first date, don't come in a sweat. The first date, I think, like, that's, like, you get to know them and stuff.
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Exactly.
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We cool. And we didn't have a vibe going, and you just wanted to relax. But, like, the first one, yeah. Like, I'm coming with my bomb cologne, my, like, shirt. I'm trying to look proper. Like, I feel like the girl should do that, too.
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I agree. And I think the girl should maintain that with her man, even. Like, you should want to look good. There's times where you could be chill, like, but, you know, you should want to be looking good and, like, representing your person. And I just believe that, too, in general. That's crazy, though. You just walked out on her, like, whatever.
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Yeah, I was good. I was just like, no, I'm good.
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Damn. You seem like you just be good off of any little thing, though.
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That's not any little thing, though.
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No, it's not.
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Because if it happens early, it's gonna happen. Once you get into it, it's gonna get worse.
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Yeah, that's true.
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So I'm cool at the beginning. Like, when it's right there, that's the red flag. I mean, I don't know if it's considered a red flag, but I ain't feeling it for you.
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You're not feeling that?
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I'm just not feeling that. So if we doing it early, then imagine when you get comfortable with somebody, right? You know what I'm saying?
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Are you someone that's like, when I'm with my girl or I'm out on a date with a girl or, like, whatever you want them to. Like, are you the type of man that's like, they need to be in heels 100%. Like, no matter what.
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That's standard. Like, we gonna start with just heels, and then we'll figure out the rest.
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No, but I'm saying, like, okay, so not just first date, but, like, overall, like, y' all go out and this is your girl at this point, or this is someone you're just dealing with. Should they always be in heels when you go out?
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It depends on where we going. Like, if I'm taking you to the fair or the carnival.
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Right. But I'm saying you guys are going on your dates or you're going out, wherever. Like, dinners dates. Are those. Are you one of those men? Like, my girl gotta be in heels?
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I feel like this. If you out with me, you are a representation of me. You're an extension of me. So when you're seen with me, people gonna be like, oh, okay, I get it.
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Right, right, right, right. You want someone to look that, but do they have to have heels to look that, in your opinion?
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You better be looking goddamn good in that outfit. Better be outfitting.
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That outfit. Better be outfitted.
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Yeah. I mean, it just looks better. Yeah, it looks better. I feel like it's less grown woman. It's classy. I feel like.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I don't want you coming in. No Reeboks. Yeah. And no Air Force ones or some Jordans. That's a no.
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No. That's wild. Who's doing that?
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Don't pull up. No, no Jordans.
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Jordans is crazy.
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I'm good.
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Jordan is out of pocket.
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Wear some Jordans on any of the dates. You can't wear Jordans on none of the dates.
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No, you shouldn't be wearing Jordans.
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And that's my favorite player. Like, it depends where we going though. If we going to like a fair.
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The movies and type shit like that.
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That you can be.
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Okay, cool. I get what you're saying, but you're like, if you're out with me, you're not wearing no sandals.
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Friday we going out. I ain't telling you where we going. I'm. That's going to be the test. I'm going see what she doing, what.
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She puts on type thing.
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Right. So I mean. Yeah, that, that means something because you setting a standard, you know, Cuz I'm going set a standard. Like man, you know, I want, I'm look like, think about this. Women do stuff for men just like men do stuff for women.
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Yeah.
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Like we get the cars, we get, we get the clothes, we get for the woman, we get the jewelry, we get the look how we want for the woman. I feel like the woman should do same thing.
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I think women do do that for the most part.
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You getting your lips right and your hair done and they wear these heels. Just because you want to look good for the men that you mess with. Right.
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100% women do that.
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Let's do it.
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Yeah. I think women do do that. I think that there is a culture of like more of a kickback, lazy style sometimes. But I think that most of the time, most women like to get dolled up like, and be feminine and smell good and look good for their man. I personally believe that most, a lot of women do that, in my opinion.
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Yeah. But there's some women out there that might wear a hoodie. I'm good. I'M good.
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Don't wear a hoodie, like, just at all or just on a date if.
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We go out to eat. No, not. Don't wear a hoodie to, like, to go out to eat at night. Because this is our night. I want y' all, like, I'm taking you out. Cause I want to see you looking good, Right?
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Are you one of those, like, nails not done. And it's like, this is crazy. That. Or you do care about, like, the particulars of things. Like, your nails aren't done.
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I'm looking at all.
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Your hair is not done.
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I'm. I'm.
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You're peeping it all. You're clocking it. You're clocking that.
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Okay.
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You're clocking all of that. You're clocking all of that.
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Let me come back to that. I'm gonna see how consistent you are.
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Yeah, you're clocking that.
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Yeah, I'm gonna look when I, you know, it ain't gonna be on some little stuff I can deal with, like the outfit, right? Heels. The nails ain't done, but it can't be all chipped. You can just have low nails.
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Shift is crazy.
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Yeah. Just have no nails, you know, Then have a chip nail.
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I can't. I love to have nails done, but I will say that upkeep for women. Women complain. Cause they're like, that's a lot. It's not as expensive to upkeep a man than it is a woman. Like, your nails are. And your toes are these days, like 170. Your hair is three something minimum. You're, you know, just like all your stuff.
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Yeah, we not going out like that. We ain't. We like, once every two, twice a month. Four times a month.
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You not going out twice a month. You going out more than that for sure. Just anyone like, twice a month is not enough. People are going out hitting it twice a month. And don't you feel as if you.
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Better get that hair that lasts a couple weeks. Get that one that's gone. Get that wig. Get that lace front.
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That's gone lace front.
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Get that. Whatever you need to get to make that stop crying. That shit look good for a couple weeks.
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Okay.
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Shit. Come on. Don't be doing me like that. It can't just every weekend. You need to get your hair done. 300. 300. That's the only way.
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I don't think it's every weekend. But I'm saying, like, if you want a woman to upkeep stuff, it does add up. Lowkey. But then you wanna Wax. So a woman has to get waxed.
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Eyebrows just go get that big shaver.
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No, it's different. Cause when you shave, shave that day you pull up, it just doesn't hit the same. I'm gonna tell you that right now. It does not hit the same. Like, as a grown woman, you shouldn't be shaving your cooter.
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You should know how to wax your cooter too.
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You should not know how to wax your own vagina. Do you know how hard that is? You have to look down, get into the lips hot. Like, who's doing that? No one is waxing their own vagina.
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Oh, I don't know. I don't know that situation.
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Yeah. So don't think that you could just make shit up. Like, oh, you should be. She should be cutting your own hair. That's easier for men. Men can do that. But you're still not doing that. Waxing your vagina is crazy. Which goes into. Have you seen the skims? Has the vagina thongs that have coochie hair on it?
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Yeah, I saw that.
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You know that they sold out. What are your thoughts on that? Do you feel like that's fly? Would you want your girl to be in that coochie thong?
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I gotta see them on. They probably look sexy. I don't know.
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They sell little coochie hairs.
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Yeah, I know. It's just fake, though. It probably looked like sexy on end of some panties.
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Like a little fake coochie hair. That's crazy. That's crazy to me. Like, who's buying those items like a lot of women did? Because it's sold out, clearly.
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And then they come off you like, ooh, okay, that's that wax. It's really that.
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But then what's the point? Like. Cause most men prefer a, like waxed or whatever. So, like, why would you want to see it that way?
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People like different.
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No, people do. I know people who like different.
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No, that's like nothing we. Nobody made that. So it's like, damn, that could look sexy just when she walking around with those on and it just, you know, it look like it's a hairy thing and it's just like, damn, this is crazy.
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What do you mean? What?
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But you know, but when you know in your mind that it ain't. It's just like, you know, it's just like when you wear clothes, it's just like wearing clothes. It's just coochie clothes.
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That is sounds crazy. And you know, she also has the bras that are like a hard nipple.
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Yeah.
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I think that's cute, but I just think that, like, you, if you're wearing.
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That, don't fool me. You fooling me now?
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No, because your nipple can be hard, but sometimes if you have a supportive bra, you can't see that the nipple is hard. But the thing about that is, if you're wearing a hard nipple, you getting it cracking. Like, anyone who's buying that bra is trying to get it cracking.
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If you wearing it and then it come off a name that they don't.
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They're not giving that.
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They're not giving that. You like, damn, dog. I saw them through the shirt. I thought they was that.
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You thought they was giving that.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, damn, you fooled me. I mean, women need to stop fooling men. Y' all fool us too much anyway.
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Yeah, I agree.
C
Ain't too much foolery going on. Y' all get the fake hair, nails, eyes. Now it's the fake nipple. Like, damn, come on, stop killing.
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Oh, and you know what else they have now? They have. Skims. Has it. And it'd be sold out. They have the fake hips.
C
That's what I'm saying.
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Yeah. And the butt. And the butt enhancers.
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I'm about to take me a AI. I'm gonna just give me a AI robotic something. Since everything fake. Might as well go AI when them robots coming out.
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Christ. So would you. Would you get into a relationship with an AI companion?
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It depends on if it's hidden. If they make it to where stuff is hidden.
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Yeah. No, let's say because you don't have.
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To have sex, I can turn you off.
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Would you get into, like. So would you, like. Let's say it's a sex doll. Because they're really realistic.
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That's alive.
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That's talking and it's talkative. Because they are going to have that because they already have them sex dolls and they have the robots. So let's say they have. And it's talking. It's like, hi, Paul. Hi, baby. I'm just.
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What do you need today?
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What do you need? Would you like to.
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This is my command.
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Yeah. Would you have that?
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Make Daddy a sandwich.
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Okay. Daddy will, too.
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Anytime, man. Think about if they had that after a hard breakup and you get that right in the crib.
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No. That's depressing, though. That's depressing because then you're like, damn, I missed. To me, if I go through a breakup and I get around any other person that's, like, supposed to be, like, flirting in a vibe, I get so sad. Because I'm going to compare them and then I'm going to be even more depressed. I'm sitting here with this robot. I don't have no companion in real life.
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Cracking.
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That's cause a man is different.
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It don't have a feel. It has a feel to it feel to it, man. It's gonna do on command, like, hey, you know, go over there and you.
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Know, but so you don't care about like real emotion and real connection, then you don't value that.
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Yeah, of course you value that. But in times of like, depression, you might want that to make you feel good.
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You're gonna get that instead. Okay, so moving on. Okay, so our girl Joy Taylor, she said on her podcast, if she comes to a man's house that she's dealing with and he doesn't have extra toothbrushes and stuff like that, like, she not. She don't love that. Like, she wants to go over to a man's house and he has the items prepared, washcloths, products, everything. And then she said that one time she went to a man's house and when she was over there, he had everything. And then he also, on his headboard had an eyelash and one on the floor, a strip.
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Damn.
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So she said she loved that. She was like, I like that he got bitches. I like that, Joy. You know what I love Joy.
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Hey, Joy, you know what else he got? He got extra panties. He got extra. He got extra larger for you, in case you forget. He got extra heels for you too. She like, man, she loves.
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I love Joy down.
C
But you know what, dude? That's a whole player.
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Like, exactly.
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You know why, Joy? You know what I think of Joy? I think Joy like that. Cause I think Joy a player too. She a little player.
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She's a player.
C
I don't know. I don't know. And this is just me guessing.
A
Don't do her.
C
That's my sis and I love her. But like, when you say stuff like that, I be like, damn. You know? You know, I'm not even tripping if he got the eyelashes because. All right, I ain't tripping.
A
She said it was her first day over there.
C
Now, don't get mad at me if I got something, okay?
A
I'm crying, but this is what I' ma say. If I go to a man's house and he has all these items available, I'm a second guess him. I don't like that. Because then it's like, you just have any woman over here. Like, you just have all this Available because you have other women running through here. And I do. Not with that because it makes me feel away. Like, are you just.
C
He might got extra lashes in case yours fall off.
A
I don't even have fake lashes.
C
No, I'm just saying.
A
But my point is.
C
Yeah, extra two. You mad if he got the extra. What if he got all the size? I had a boy, he had extra heels in this house. He had like all the sizes.
A
This is like if you. That's wild. What? And what if he had like pajamas, like, but not just a man's shirt. Like. No, cuz a man will give you a shirt, but like a. Like actual like little lingerie dress here. Man, if a man has lingerie at his house, I'm cool.
C
But what if you got the tag on it? It's still brand new. We got to just closet that.
A
I hate it. Because that means why? Like you have women over here all the time. Even Joyce said it means you have bitches. I don't like that. I like. Yeah, let me be clear. Of course. Like, I'm not going to be with a man who women don't desire. Because a man's not a man, is I? Men desire me. Women desire the person I'll probably be with. But the point is, is you are just moving sloppy into me. And that means I don't know if I could trust you. I don't want to lay up and have sex with you. Do you have something? Do you just all these energies passing through all these women. Is someone going to pull up here? Like, I don't feel safe. I don't feel like it's a safe space for me. And I don't want to deal with a man who's like in that stage of his life where he still wants to be a player. Because there's nothing in that for me.
C
So my boy, he had the. So he had all these clothes for women in all the different sizes. Not only heels, he had tennis shoes, he had clothes and what he called the closet.
A
You making this up.
C
No, I'm not. I can't make this up. I got friends that got a lot of money that do stuff with a lot of different girls. I seen it.
A
And what is the closet? What is it?
C
So he got this closet. He called it the walk of shame closet. Cause he lived in a high rise. So, you know, they call it the walk of shame when the girl walk out and she missing one eyelash and the makeup all messed up and she in her club outfit. So he got the fits for her to not look like she's going through the walk of shame. He got, like, the hoodie for her, the sweatsuit for him. Like, so when you walk out, you don't feel like you walking through the walk of shame.
A
And I was like, damn, that's crazy. You know what's crazy? And I'm not even trying to do this. And I know you'll never believe me because just on the last episode, you said that I have a crazy list of men that I've been with. But I have never, in the history of my life, went to the club and went out, met a man, went to his house and had sex with him. I've never, ever did that. And maybe that means that I'm just boring because these women are doing that all the time. But I have never had that experience in my 34 years of living. And it's crazy that you will go out meet, because I'm sure you went out, met a woman, and you've had sex with her that night.
C
Yeah.
A
Like, how does that even happen? Like, she's just with it and you just know.
C
I think it's the energy. It's not every time, like, you know, like, like I said, I did that to a woman I was with for years.
A
Yeah, I know you've said that.
C
And then, you know, it's just like, damn. It ain't like something I'm looking to do.
A
But how do you know that? It's just the energy and. Cause this is what I've learned. You get with somebody who did that with you, and you may think it's cause you're special, but then you find out later on, oh, this is what you do?
C
Yeah. You do this all the time.
A
Oh, you do this like this ain't nothing new.
C
I'm the fool. Yeah. I'm the idiot.
A
Yeah. Like, you do this for real?
C
Yeah.
A
And so now that's why we. Now you did it to me, motherfucker. And you went out, you met someone, and I'm thinking, I'm special and I'm different. Cause like I'm telling you right now, that's not in my wheelhouse of just things I do. Like, I cannot physically do it because I have to have a mental connection with you to have sex with you. I really do. Like, if I can't feel that, then I can't feel that now. Have I kissed somebody when I first met them? Absolutely. Have I felt that energy and been like, oh, my God, like a kiss, a make out, a vibe? Absolutely.
C
Did he, you know, play with that? Play with that on the first, did he? You ain't never had somebody, like, play. Play with that?
A
Maybe.
C
Don't say maybe. That's a year.
A
No, I don't think so.
C
Yes, you said. You said.
A
No, I'm just playing with you. I really don't think that that has happened.
C
Kissing on him and then he was, like, rubbing on that inner thigh.
A
An inner thigh rub, for sure. I think.
C
An inner thigh, Upper inner thigh.
A
I don't know. I'm gonna be honest. I don't know, but I don't think so.
C
Whatever. You've come close on the first night.
A
I haven't come close to having sex on the first night ever.
C
But have you come close to any type of sexual activity on the first night?
A
I've come. Yeah. I've come close to any type of sexual activity.
C
Have you had any kind of sexual activity on the first?
A
Yeah, I have. I have. I have. But it hasn't been sex.
C
Oh, well, there's no difference.
A
We're moving on. So, anyway, you love to do this now.
C
You want to talk about it?
A
Yeah, because what was it that you did? No, I'm not blasted.
C
My.
A
I've already blasted my business up on here.
C
You've had a sexual something.
A
I've had an encounter, but it wasn't sex. I've had an encounter.
C
There's only two things that can happen.
A
Not on the first night, though.
C
You said. You just said the first night you had a sexual encounter. That wasn't sex. But you said it was something else. What was it?
A
I've already said it before on the podcast.
C
No, not this one.
A
Yeah, this one.
C
What did you do?
A
And it went viral. And everyone still talks about it. I'm not doing this again. So, anyways, back to what we're talking about. Why? Why? Why? I don't want to get into that, but I very went down on them. No, like, just get out of my business. Why are. You're, like, so in my.
C
That's crazy.
A
No, I was a young girl once.
C
Yeah, once.
A
But I never.
C
No, I'm just saying you. You older lady now. You older lady.
A
Anyways, why do you think that you look cool, though?
C
Still.
A
I believe below me I look good for my age. Like the. I'm only 34. That's really not that old number. That's not old.
C
That's a good number, though. Yeah, that's a great number.
A
Yeah. Yeah.
C
I'm only saying that because.
A
Because you were number 34. Yeah, I know that now. I know that enough to know that now. Let's get into that. And I'm 34, and I'm gonna be 34 for a cool little minute. So guess what? You, my friend, don't have. No, you can't talk because you will. Whatever. I'm still 34. I'm young, in my opinion. I'm not young, but I'm not an older lady. We've said this. I think that I'm not young. I'm not young, but I'm mature. Mature, mature, period. So why do you think that. Whatever. Why do you feel that women are attracted to men who, like, have bitches, like Joy said? Is it because. I think you already explained it. You said you feel like women, like.
C
It's more of the thing that the women like men that are. That they. That's theirs, that they like. All right, I know a lot of girls like him, but he mine now.
A
Well, you know what? You know what, though?
C
I don't know. Maybe it's that he's mine now.
A
Aisha Curry was on Call Her Daddy or some other podcast that I can't. No, I don't know. But I just saw this clip, and she was like, you know, my man, because he is who he is, gets a lot of attention from women and, like, a lot of girls and stuff like that. And she was like. And it just is crazy that I don't get to have that same attention, and I don't get attention like that from men. She said that. And people, like, drag her for that or whatever the case is. She said that before? A few times.
C
She said that she don't get a lot of attention.
A
She wishes she had more attention from men and that she gets all the women's attention, and it fucks her head up.
C
Whoa, whoa, whoa. This is the thing. How does she know what type of attention he gets from. From women?
A
I mean, it's easy. If you're with a man, you know what kind of attention they get from women. Like, I know, like, you.
C
Well, maybe he don't see it. Like, where is he at, Paul? No, no, no. Listen, and listen carefully. Like, let's say Steph gets attention from women, okay? Like, where is he getting attention from? Are girls actually coming up to him while he's with his wife or girls DMing him and she's looking at it. Yeah, it's like. It's like he's getting letters in the mail. I mean, I don't know. Where does she see the attention from the women and. Because I'm sure, like, men are definitely in her DMs no, she says they're.
A
Not because she's complained about it multiple times.
C
Tough to be in a position. Well, the thing is about being married to a high level celebrity, you know, class A is like, you gotta understand what comes with that.
A
Yeah.
C
You know, and it's not easy to deal with because as a woman, y' all love attention more than men, you know, especially a famous man. Famous men get to the point they hate the attention because it's too much to where we don't even like to go places.
A
Yeah.
C
Whereas girls want to get cute and at least be like, dang, girl, you fine. And it's good. And maybe you notice not messing with them, but you like to hear it, you know, you like to hear, you know, the comments on Instagram, damn, that outfit is busting. Damn. You know, girls like to read that and hear that. Whereas, man, we don't really care. Like when you at that level, you don't really care. You get so much attention. You like, well, I ain't even retired.
A
That's her point. But Cardi B on call her daddy, she just said recently on her thing, she said she feels like men respect marriages more than women. And she said that men respect marriages because when she was married, she would be around celebrity men and they would just be like, hey, Cardi, what's up? They wouldn't be in her DMs and they wouldn't be trying to get at her. But she said that when she offset was married to her, girls would be all over him. Because let me tell you what happens, right? Women, when they look at a man and they realize he can be a committed relationship man, they want him more. He's more desirable. Oh, he's committed to her. He's willing to marry her. He's willing to do this. He's, he can be in a committed relationship. Oh, he's more desirable. I want him because I know that he can be with somebody. But I don't know how it is for men because I've never been married. So I don't know how men respect the relationship or not.
C
So this goes back to our first segment when we talked about when LeBron said there are a lot of ruthless ass bitches.
A
Yeah.
C
Cause that's the ruthlessness in a girl. Cause they be looking like, oh, damn. You know, it was like that for me. It was like certain girls that I probably liked or I want to holler at. Then when I got married and they didn't talk to me before, they was like, damn, okay, I'm pressing him Now, Yeah. I'm like, damn. For real? Like, nah. Because girls like the challenge to be like, they want to one up a girl and they want to one up that marriage to where this is the. Where the Ruthless come in. Like, okay, I'll break this up. You know, it's Ruthless, girls.
A
It's an ego, too, that will, like.
C
Try to get him and put him in a situation to where they get a flick with him or something on text or something. To where, especially in the social media age. Oh, yeah, go ahead and say something. Something. Run them pockets, homie. Or almost. This picture is going to go everywhere.
A
And also too, it's like, I noticed this too. Like, if I have a man and even if I'm out somewhere and, like, girls aren't on them, and if I'm to be like, oh, that's my man, that's just gonna make them want you more. Like, that's just how women think. They're just gonna make them want whoever that is way more. Like, it just is what it is. Like, women don't respect that. And even if a man's like, oh, I posted you, like, posting you or doing this or showing, like, acts of love just gets a man way more cracking. Like, I've been with men who got way better because they were with me. Because they were like, oh, he got her and we must be doing this and he must be getting this. Like, you was even that cracking, and now you getting cracking women all on you and you're like, folding off of that and it's really off the strength of you being with me. So, like, you talking about you personally. Yeah, like, that has happened. Like, you and men. It's like, it's not flattering. Like, of course you want to be loved out loud after you was.
C
Or.
A
Before we going back to this?
C
No, I'm just saying, was it after.
A
Or during or when I wasn't 280 at that time?
C
All right.
A
People don't even call me by my name now. They just be like, 280 you.
C
So this was before that?
A
This is before I was 280. Like, God damn.
C
So.
A
Or after that?
C
No, I'm just saying. So let's call your 280ness. Let's just call that Covid. You had a Covid period.
A
It was during COVID Oh, that was.
C
During COVID So you just had a hiccup. You know, it was like, you know, you had a pre Covid and then a Covid and, you know, now you back, you know, so Kobe, you know, was a Blip in the matrix. That's all.
A
I can't even say what I was.
C
Saying because it was a blip in the matrix. And now you good.
A
I can't even talk.
C
You don't need no mask no more. You don't, you know, you good.
A
Why did I need a mask?
C
Because. Because like that you need to erase that. Like covet is like. I feel like covet was like you need to erase that part of my life or a part of history. It was just like. Because it was like so much nothing you could do. And then it was just like, damn. People went into depression, lost jobs. You know this. People died. Think it's just blip that out.
A
Fucked up that you want me to erase a part of myself. Like I was still a human being, nigga. Like, just because I was 280 doesn't mean that I wasn't shit. Like I was a person, a breathing woman that was still on the earth dealing with people, loving people, taking care of myself and making an impact in society. Like, just because I was big and for any woman that's big, don't mean they got to erase themselves and they're not worth living or being in the world. Like, correct yourself before I get pissed the fuck off on this show.
C
Like was making a difference in society.
A
Cuz my energy of my spirit is always making a difference in society because I.
C
What's the difference you was making?
A
I'm moving on. See, you're disrespectful, man.
C
Like, this is crazy food crisis or what? Like it was people.
A
You get on my nerves. I'm so sick of you.
C
You know, you was taking food out of people mouth. That's what you do. I'm just messing with you. I had to go back to that, you know, hey, we got to remind people you're inspiration, you know, you're in the gym three, four times a week now you had your blip in the matrix and now you cracking. You know, share the story. It's fine to talk about it.
A
No, because anytime I talk about it, you want to talk about me. Crazy. I'm talking about. Don't. I don't want to delete that part of my life that's a part of something that happened to me.
C
No, I said delete it. But you could just, you know, I don't chalk it up to the, you know, covet and say that was, you know. You know, that was like, like an NBA would have considered that the lockout, you know, it was a down year or two lockout that was during the lockout. My bad. I just, you know, we. Sometimes. We got to get back to that. Okay.
A
Anyways.
C
What's poppin, though?
A
There's a Harvard study that say men should ejaculate 20 times per month to reduce prostate cancer risk. Do you think that.
C
What you mean, what does ejaculate mean?
A
Come.
C
Oh, damn. Do you think that 20 times a month?
A
21. Do you think that's a real.
C
Why did they. How did they. I don't understand how Harvard didn't come up with these numbers.
A
You always talk about these.
C
Do they just sit in a room to do. You know, he just like, let me. You got to do this for 21 days, my boy. And then we'll see, you know, we got to do this for years now. Now you have to do it for years. And we're going to sit here and monitor this. Come on, now.
A
Come on. Yeah, I want to know what these studies are about too, because you put me on to really realizing these statistics are crazy. But do you think ejaculating 21 times a month is realistic?
C
What does that mean again?
A
To come.
C
So that means okay, to play with yourself or have a sexual encounter where you can. Is that realistic? Yeah, man. I'm sure it's a lot of people that do that. I'm sure it's guys that play with themselves every day.
A
Playing with yourself sounds crazy.
C
I mean, that's. You know, you gotta keep. He gotta stay. Keep his stamina.
A
Okay.
C
I'm sure it's dudes that do that every day. You know, ain't nothing wrong.
A
So do you think while you're in a relationship, do you, like, feel like if you're jacking, playing with yourself. If anyone is playing with themselves in the relationship, the woman or the man, Are you offended by that? Like, let's say your woman is playing with herself using the vibrator on her own. Like, whatever. Like multiple times a week or whenever, however many times. Is that like, wow, offensive or do you not care?
C
That's a good question. Damn.
A
The reason I ask is because in my past relationship, it was like an issue of like, you better not use your vibrator or do anything on your own. Cause that's crazy.
C
Well, maybe a man be like, why don't you just, you know, save that for me? You know what I'm saying? And then on the flip side, it could be the woman just like, damn, you turned me on so much that I wanna do this and I think of you. I don't know. It's a fine Line between that.
A
What is your turn?
C
I'd rather. I don't have no real problem with that. You know, I think that if you're in a relationship and that's what you do, I would like to be present some days you do it. All right.
A
So you would watch.
C
I would like to be present.
A
All right.
C
Like, if your girl do that 21 days, like, the study say they need to do it. I want to be present some of them days, and I just be, like, watching a movie. Like, okay, all right.
A
Watching a movie. Just. That's not a. That's wild for a woman. That's uncomfortable. If you're not, like, getting into it too, then you're just watching a movie, and I'm just.
C
I'm just watching the movie. I'm relaxed. I'm over here looking.
A
And you're just. That's like, yeah, that feels so crazy. You have to be like, I have done that.
C
Close your eyes. I'm gonna be over here.
A
No, it's awkward. Like, as a woman, trust me, what.
C
You want me to do?
A
You want a man to, like, be like, ooh, something like, you gotta have, like. That's fun. If a man is like, you want.
C
A man, you want the sound effects from him.
A
Yeah. Like a sound effect, a rub, a touch, a look in the eye.
C
I want you to do what you do when I'm not around so I can see what you do.
A
Yeah, you can still see. You can still use your eyes and interact.
C
You ain't do. If I'm not there, how are you getting off? Why, you don't need me to do that now.
A
So I'm going, no, you don't have to do that. But I'm saying, like, you, like, as a woman, you will want your man to, like, at least not just be like, I'm watching a movie. And then she's like, it's. That is why.
C
I'm not saying he watching the movie, but y', all, like, you watching the movie. But he gonna be like, like, okay, yeah, okay. Yeah, he.
A
Because then you get in your head and you're like, a lot of women don't come because they're in their head. That's like the number one reason. And then it's like, for me, if my man is right there and I'm doing that, like, I want him to be like, are you turned on? Like, is it giving? Like, what it needs to give? Like, I don't want to be in my head thinking that.
C
So he has to reverse it now. So, like, cuz If I'm. If I'm in my mode to where I'm going. Yeah, you know, I'm getting myself going. Yeah, I don't need you to be doing all of that. Shut up. Be quiet. You see the talking, doing all that? Ah, shut up. You messing up my content.
A
So you just want someone to be watching the movie?
C
I don't care what you doing, just don't say nothing. Let me. Cause I'm a.
A
So saying something is gonna turn you. Your woman saying something while you're doing that is turning you off is crazy. Why? Like, what if she's like, ooh, I love that.
C
That.
A
That's. Be quiet. You're turned off by that. Like, what if she's like, oh, yes, daddy, shut up.
C
I got this.
A
What?
C
I got this.
A
I think that's crazy. I think that it is. Like for me, watching a man do that is a turn on for me. And I feel like it could be a turn on, the vice versa, but I can't have a man.
C
So what you gonna be doing if he's sitting there doing that? What you gonna be like?
A
Oh, yeah, I like that actually. And I've. Yeah, I feel like you. You don't have to say anything, but it's just the act of just like, I don't know. I don't know what I'm saying, and I don't know if I'm saying anything or not. Like I might, but I don't know.
C
If he in there, you and your man laying in the bed, he like, damn, I just, I feel like, just stroking myself right now. Like, damn. You know what I'm saying? Don't do nothing, baby. Just, just, you know, just, you know, just lay there. I'm gonna just, you know, rub on you with this hand and on the other hand I'm gonna get myself going. You don't have to say nothing.
A
But what. What about moaning? Like, okay, I'm getting turned on. I'm moaning. I'm. Oh, yes. Like, is that blowing you like that's turning you off?
C
I don't know.
A
Because what, like, you just want someone to just sit there quiet and watch you.
C
Most men is like gonna be just like, I don't know, maybe closing their eyes and just picturing him and his girl. Just like, if they doing that.
A
But what if she's right there? Why not just look at each other like, you know what I'm saying? And also for women, I feel like.
C
Met women let the girl do it.
A
But I feel like, you know why it's good for the man to do it. Because I think that when a woman watches a man do it, it's like, show me how you do it to yourself. So then when I'm in there doing different items, like, I know your motion, I know your rhythm. So that's how, like, I've learned. Like, you can learn, like, oh, I know what you are on. Like, and then you make a mental note, and you're like, oh, okay. Like, just like you said. What would you do if I wasn't. Like, the person wasn't right there? Like, you have to.
C
What's your preferred toy of choice?
A
Lord, this is getting a little too extra dark. I would say that. I mean, we did have a whole sex toy box here, so it's gonna be all right. I would say that I'm a clitor simulation person. So for me, my toy that I use is for the clit Taurus. And you vibrate on there, and then. Boom, I'm gonna come.
C
Okay. So the question is. Yeah. What's your toy of choice?
A
That's what it is. It's a. It's a clit toy.
C
That's what it's called. So if I go into the store, I say, give me the clit toy.
A
So I don't know what it's called. It's a vibrator. It's not.
C
Most girls like the rose, the massage thing with the ball, with the tile.
A
No. You know, most girls don't. Like, that's what your mom. You pretended was a back scratcher. Like, okay. It really was fine.
C
Now it's the rose that just came.
A
Out a few years ago. I don't do the rose, though. But it's like, I do this toy. It's called what it looks like. So it's like this. It has a hole like this, and it's like. It's like rubber. And you put your clit in the little thing in the little hole.
C
How big is the clit? God damn, that's a D. At that point, if you could put it in to. If you got.
A
The clit gets swollen, right? So when you turned on, it gets hard and swollen.
C
The click.
A
Yeah, it does.
C
That's crazy. How big is the clit?
A
It doesn't have to be huge. You put it over.
C
That's wild. That's.
A
You don't have to have a big clit to do that. You literally. I don't. You don't have to have that. And then you could just put.
C
That might be something else.
A
No, it's not. It's really not. You literally. It's the same concept as the rose. The rose is just like. Like, I think like a tongue. But this has been my favorite toy for a long time. And you just. And I don't use it like that. I probably haven't used it in a minute. But, like, it is a thing and it's like a little hole and I think it's like a little thing in there. Rubber thing. And you put it.
C
I wonder how that one toy feel, that one. That. For the men that got.
A
Yeah, yeah. I always wonder that. A little bulb with the flesh in there.
C
You wanted.
A
How that feel too for a man? Like, is that cracking?
C
Oh, I don't know. I ain't never. I ain't never.
A
I've always wondered if that was cracking for a man. But, like, if I walked in and my man was using that, I don't know how it would feel.
C
If he walked in, he was in the middle of it, like, who are you? Damn. God damn. You walked in. He just making sound effects. What you doing?
A
Woo. I mean, he like, damn. It would just be like, damn, you don't even do all that. Well, we have.
C
Like, this is.
A
Is crazy.
C
This is fire.
A
Yeah, that's too much. Because then now you're addicted to that more than you would have sex with me. And I don't like that because it's like, this is giving a lot and I don't really love that. And then, like, it's just doing too much. I'm not going to be mad or whatever, but I just feel like, damn, like, even me, it's like, I don't mind if a man does that in a relationship and does his own thing. Like, do that. Get your shit off. But sometimes you'd be like, well, save it for me.
C
What if you walk in and he got the sex.
A
No, I'm not. I'm not doing that.
C
That's cheating.
A
It's not cheating. It's weird.
C
But I'm just saying, if you walk in, what's going to happen?
A
It's not cheating.
C
You're going to be arguing.
A
It's not arguing.
C
It's like, y' all going to break up.
A
You're just weird.
C
So y. What? So what?
A
You just don't. I have to think, like, you're strange and I'm going to have to accept that.
C
Like, baby, it's been. You've been out of town for three days.
A
Like, no, it's not that. It's not that serious.
C
All right, all right.
A
The sex doll is blowing. The sex doll is wrong. I don't want to do Nothing with a sex doll, in my opinion. I think if a man has that, you're out of control. Like, you are that. But what if a man is like, I'm an info. Like, I have a friend who's married and he is like, he has to have sex all the time. So like, he'll be like, oh, my God, I had sex with all these women in one day. Like. Like people have an addiction. So, like, maybe those type of people need a little sex toile. Like need a little doll that they could just get it off. You know what I'm saying? Anyways, that was really after dark. We gotta move on from that for a second. Do you think. Do you. But this is on like brand. Do you think that sex can actually save a relationship that's falling apart?
C
Damn. Wait, can sex save a relationship? Well, if the relationship. Who. That don't make sense.
A
You know how like when people are fighting and they have makeup sex and stuff and like, they use sex to.
C
Kind of band aid, I think. Yeah, but what are they falling apart? It depends on what you falling apart from.
A
I mean, let's just say you guys are just arguing all the time. And then you're like, okay, I'm gonna use sex. Like every time we argue, I'm just bending down to my knees and I'm getting cracking.
C
Well, it shouldn't get to that point. You should have been doing that to keep them from the breakup moment.
A
The breakup, I'm saying. But what if it's like other stuff and you guys are just going through stuff.
C
Financial problems or.
A
Yeah, like whatever.
C
Like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, kids.
A
Yeah, kids.
C
Like, sex makes it last longer than it needs to because the issue still didn't go away.
A
That's real.
C
You know, maybe it just extended to stay.
A
That's real.
C
But it's not ultimately gonna solve the problem.
A
Yeah.
C
If there's a issue outside of sex.
A
Yeah.
C
You know, so. And then you got. It's some guys and some girls that's just like, damn, I really hate this dude. Or I really won't ever be with him, but I will have sex with him, you know, or her. Like, and. But he, like, it be dudes and girls so sprung on the sex. And that's it. You know, the values go out. You know, they have a whole other man, but they like having sex with they ex.
A
Yeah. And you know who does that a lot? Baby mom and baby dad.
C
Yeah.
A
Because they're like, we would never be together. We don't work. But I love the sex because it's this it's toxic. It's fashion. It's giving.
C
Yeah.
A
That's what people do a lot in that baby daddy, baby mama situation.
C
Yeah.
A
And that's what you'd be having to look out for because it's like, it's familiar. You guys already know each other's bodies. You know what's going on, and then you're just like, okay, cool. Like, I'm gonna run that. And to me, it's like, if you me, I'm telling you right now, if I'm having sex with anybody else, I don't with the person I'm with. Because when I'm with someone, I'm very into that person. I'm very like, this is my person. I'm thirsty for them. I'm like on them. If I'm like, doing that, that means, like, I'm not. Like, I can't have a sexual connection with someone that I don't with. Like, I just don't. And to me, like, to. I never had sex with an ex on some. Like, oh, we're just gonna become fuck buddies now because we like the sex. Because I don't like the sex. As soon as I don't like you, that shit is out the window for me. I don't wanna see you. I don't wanna look at you. I'm very cut dry. If I'm fucking with you, I'm rocking with you. If I'm not, I'm done. I'm very cut and dry. I'm blocking you.
C
But you never had a situation to where you got somebody you gotta deal with. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
A
The baby mama, baby daddy thing, I never had that. And that's the difference. And I do think if I did have that situation, I really do think, though, that I would be very cut and dry. Like, I was very clean.
C
Like, yeah, you got to be cut and dry.
A
Yeah, I'm very.
C
Just be about the children.
A
Don't hit me up about nothing other than the kids. Don't be calling my phone. Don't be texting me. Little slick. She like, we should not be talking about nothing. And I know that I would be that way because I'm very much like that. Like, if I'm with you in a relationship, that means I'm really locked in and you really got me.
C
Let me ask you something.
A
Yeah.
C
Like, is it. What's the limit? Like, should. All right, so say like, ex.
A
Yeah.
C
Baby dad. Let's say baby kid, baby daddy or baby mama. Do you get presents for their birthday and Christmas and Valentine's and stuff like that. H.
A
For Valentine's Day, you're going to get a gift to your baby moms or baby dads. Are you mine gone?
C
Okay, so what about Christmas?
A
No, I'm getting gifts for the kids. We are not getting gifts for each other. That's out. And let me tell you this. Another thing that I always say is, like, there's things that could be forgiven in a relationship. I think one thing that I couldn't forgive in a relationship is someone cheating with their. Their. Their baby mom. Their baby, like.
C
Or.
A
Yeah, the mother of their child. Because that's not gonna ever be. I'll never feel safe because the you. It's right there and it's always going to be right there. So if you cheated on that, then this over for me, like. Because I can't ever get past that, honestly. Because now I know you have to see this person. You have to deal with this person. You have to go around this person. And how do I know that you're not doing that? Like, I'll never feel safe. That's one thing. Like I always say, like, I'll forgive a lot of stuff. Stuff that's one thing I know that I won't forgive. And I think crossing that line is like, why are y' all buying each other gifts? You should be getting gifts for the children, period, point blank. And if the children are old enough.
C
To get, you're with another girl, period.
A
Okay, yeah, that's weird to me. Like, it's. Period. Like, I don't think it's just about. See people have.
C
But like, say you single.
A
It doesn't matter. Why are you not setting the boundary when you're single or when you're in a relationship? Why are you crossing that weird line whether I'm single or I'm not?
C
Well, there's no line if you're single.
A
Yeah, there's a line within the boundaries of what you set with the person you're with. Your baby mom or your baby dad. It is a boundary. I'm setting boundaries with them whether I'm single or in a relationship.
C
Well, I can speak on this because I did this for a lot of years. You know, I like God gifts for the mamas. So the kids can see that me just being nice.
A
I get that and I respect that.
C
You know what I'm saying? I don't want to like, dog them, like. Cause the kids see it.
A
Yeah, but you don't have to dog them out.
C
But it ain't gotta be nothing major. It ain't gotta be a major gift.
A
I think you get them something like.
C
I think you get, like, some sandals or some shit.
A
That's crazy. I. I would never. And if I was with somebody who did that, I would be cool. And honestly, too, I get Mother's Day, like, some flowers or something, like a card.
C
So what's the difference, friends?
A
Because that's respecting the fact that that's the mother. Like, cool. I I with you. You're a cool mom.
C
So flowers is cool for Christmas.
A
I don't think you should be getting gifts for people. And I think that if I'm with someone who's buying their. Their baby mom's sandals, like, that's always sandals.
C
It's like 30 bucks.
A
I don't give a. I think that that's blowing it. And I think that what too many people do is they wait till they get into a relationship to set a boundary, and then the woman is, like, even more upset now, oh, you got in this relationship now you sw. Had this. No, no, no, honey. We have boundaries set before I'm in a relationship. Like my text.
C
How about a text?
A
Is it about the kid?
C
No, I'm saying, what if he, like, happy birthday.
A
Yeah. I mean, that's crazy. Yeah, that's crazy. I think that's fine. Okay, that's blowing me. If you can't text happy birthday, Merry Christmas. That's just too strict. You could be cordial. You can have a friendship or not a friendship, but, like, y' all are cool, but I think that you have to respect the things. Like my ex, he was super bound up with his baby mama before I even was with him. When I got with him, him, it was an introduction of, like, this is my girl. She's going to be around our daughter. This is the daughter. Hey, this is someone that I love. I'm gonna be around. Like, it was so transparent. It was so comfortable. I never worried about nothing. And it was very cut and dry. This is it. Like, boom, boom, boom. There's no nothing. And I felt very cool in that situation when it came to that. But I feel like some people, they blur the lines and they don't set that boundary ahead of time. So a woman is picked pissed. Because I'm gonna be pissed, like, damn, you got with this girl. Now I can't get no sandals. Like, I' ma say my little slick. Like, where are my sandals now? Oh, she's a hater. Now I can't get my. Like, no, you shouldn't have been getting nothing, because this is not that type of relationship. This is for the children. Set a boundary. If the kid is very tiny and it's the birthday, I will get a gift on behalf of the kid for the mom or for the dad. Yeah but all that other is blowing me them. I'm just saying you got to set boundaries people cuz they will cross a line for show and next episode y' all having sex.
C
Damn.
A
Anyways, that was a great episode. I feel like we did our big one. There was more stuff to discuss but we'll have to cover it next time cuz we be chopping man.
C
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A
Period. Clocked it. Tune in, subscribe, all of that jazz. We have a lot of good coming.
C
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Yeah. Thank you guys.
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Date: October 20, 2025
Hosts: Azar Faraday (A), Truth (C)
(Note: Shannon Sharpe not present; this is a Truth After Dark special episode on the Club Shay Shay network)
This "Truth After Dark" episode dives into dating dynamics, gender stereotypes, relationship boundaries, and sexual honesty in the modern age. Hosts Azar Faraday and Truth go back and forth with raw, unfiltered opinions—prompted by a recent LeBron James quote about ruthlessness in relationships—exploring gender roles, infidelity, player culture, appearance standards, sexual habits, and the blurred lines of relationships in a social-media-driven world. Touching on everything from AI companions to grooming expectations, the conversation mixes humor, personal stories, and sharp takes while dissecting what makes modern love and lust so complicated.
(Main discussion: 04:26–06:34, 38:44–39:44)
LeBron James' comment referencing "ruthless ass bitches who do men dirty" ignites the discussion.
Truth argues women are "way more ruthless" than men, citing stories about women setting men up, cheating, or exploiting them post-breakup, including scheming for child support or assets:
Azar raises how the divorce system can compound this perception.
Both acknowledge men "dog" women too, but they differ on who's more prone to coldness and revenge.
(06:34–09:55)
Truth claims: "I think women cheat more than men." [07:33]
Azar disputes this, noting men are "more sloppy" and get caught more:
They agree women generally cheat only when emotionally checked out, while for men, temptation and opportunity are larger triggers.
(12:09–17:54)
Truth recounts ending a date because the woman wore a sweatsuit to a fancy spot, stressing the importance of "first impressions" and feeling disrespected:
Azar agrees with keeping one's appearance and effort up for their partner.
Truth's preference: "If you out with me, you are a representation of me. You're an extension of me." [17:01]
(19:09–22:36)
The upkeep women undergo (nails, hair, waxing) versus expectations men have.
Azar calls out the unrealistic asks from men who don’t consider the time and cost:
Hilarious aside about the Skims "vagina thong" with faux pubic hair, with Azar and Truth baffled but amused at the product’s popularity:
(23:10–25:46)
(26:08–32:01, 34:15–36:00)
(44:01–54:12)
(51:04–53:48)
(55:31–56:46)
(59:20–61:44)
"Women be out here setting dudes up, getting them robbed, getting them killed... Men don't do that to females."
— Truth [04:49]
"I think women cheat more than men."
— Truth [07:33]
"If you out with me, you are a representation of me."
— Truth [17:01]
"If you on a first date, don't come in a sweat."
— Truth [15:03]
"You just walked out on her, like, whatever."
— Azar [15:44]
"It's not as expensive to upkeep a man..."
— Azar [20:06]
"I'm about to take me a AI robotic something. Since everything fake. Might as well go AI..."
— Truth [24:24]
"I haven’t come close to having sex on the first night ever."
— Azar [32:31]
"Sex makes it last longer than it needs to because the issue still didn't go away."
— Truth [56:23]
"If a man has that [sex doll], you're out of control."
— Azar [54:38]
Listen if:
You want to hear real, unflinching opinions on sex, dating, and modern relationships—with equal parts humor, debate, and real-life insight.
Next episode preview:
Look for deeper dives on relationship boundaries, more wild stories, and perhaps—finally—a guest or two to stir the pot.