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Stanford Red
You want him to sit here?
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Shannon Sharpe
No, you go right there.
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Stanford Red
Baby. It's an honor.
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Triple H
So how you doing, bro?
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Shawn Michaels
I'm doing good, sorry.
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Shannon Sharpe
Good to see you.
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Shawn Michaels
Coming up now, thank you very much.
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Shannon Sharpe
How you been?
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Shawn Michaels
I am wonderful. Appreciate it.
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Shannon Sharpe
So let me ask you this. What's, what's been one of your biggest challenges now? You, you've kind of transitioned running out nxt, what's been the biggest transition for you?
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Shawn Michaels
Tying a tie, putting on the suit, looking like a corporate head? No, look, I will say this. I don't know, you guys know probably better than me, you play the game. But then trying to, I don't know, help coach it or teach it, right, Is not always an easy transition.
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Shannon Sharpe
So when you're as great as you were, the patience that you need to have, because things that probably came easy to you might not come easy to someone else.
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Shawn Michaels
Well, first, thank you. I mean, first of all. But again, you, it's the same thing, right? And, but, and that was, I will say that's been the most challenging part was some things, I don't know, I, I was given a gift. And, and when you're doing it and you're in the minute moment of it, you're not thinking about that, right? And then afterwards, so many things, you go back and you try to teach and they ask you like, well, how this, how that, how did this happen? And I was just there. It was just there. So, but again, that's been the part where I've had to learn how to convey that in the best possible message that I can. And I was fortunate to be able to have some time as a trainer and a coach before I was in the role that I'm in now. And now again as they, I'm able to meet them where they're at over the years I've learned how to do that is understanding that not all of them are the same and being able to again try to understand where they're at and not to be teaching for 10 years down the road, but meet them where they're at currently.
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Shannon Sharpe
Right.
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Shawn Michaels
And that's been the, that's been the biggest help for me going forward. And again, one of the things that's also an advantage to us is we teach and then they move on. And so I at least get enough reps because you have a new group come in and you kind of have to it sort of rinse and repeat, so to speak, with the exception of a small little detail things here and there. But for the most part you end up covering the gambit and, and you at least get enough reps at it that it becomes a little bit easier the more you do it.
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Shannon Sharpe
That's the biggest thing when you talk to great greats in any particular sport, any particular thing, what came easy is hard. Those that can do, those that can't teach you did because you could do. Now how do you show patience, show grace and says what came so easy to Shawn Michael? What were they? God given gift? How do I convey that? Because they're asking you, well how you like I just did it then. Now you got to like, well you have to do it like this when no one really had to explain it to you. You just had that God given gift.
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Shawn Michaels
Well again that's where I go back to making them or doing my best to have them really define and delineate and detail what it is they're looking for and asking about. The hardest thing for us is a very natural feel. And also as you gentlemen know, you almost can't teach timing right. Correct timing is something that.
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Shannon Sharpe
Our, our.
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Shawn Michaels
Business as yours sort of hangs on through reps you can get close to it, but a lot of it is a feel and a timing thing and trying to get them to understand that and to not the biggest thing with that because that may not always get perfectly in sync but the closer they can get to it, the better chance they have. So a lot of it is teaching them patience in that respect and knowing that nothing is going to happen easy. But when everything is said and done, more reps is going to give you the better results. You're certainly not going to get worse if you're continuing to hit it time and time and time and time again and again. That comes down to work ethic. And then when you get into the conversations of wanting to be great as you guys know, a word that gets tossed around way too freely now.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes, absolutely.
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Shawn Michaels
And, and again, trying to really help them understand what it means to try and be that. It's one thing to say it, it's another thing to put into practice attainment.
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Shannon Sharpe
Did you all, did you always want to be a wrestler? Did you have any idea when you got started many, many years ago that wrestling would be what it's become? Or as we say in the south, wrestling? Did you have any idea? Because you know wrestling and I know you know this, but a lot of people at home, wrestling, wrestling, wrestling used to just be regional. You had champ, you had the south, you had the Northeast, you had the Mid Atlantic, you had to meet. That's where wrestling was. And then somehow Vince McMahon, he merged all this together. That had the NWA and they merged all this together and it became one. Did you have, did you want to be a wrestler? And did. When you started, did you have any idea it would take you to the places that has taken you and it would become what it's become.
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Shawn Michaels
I'm 60. So when I started, it was Southwest Championship Wrestling. I knew at 12 years old. I saw it one time, I got to stay up late and all of a sudden this montage comes on again, grainy again. The production quality is horrible, but you don't know it at the time. And it was the most mesmerizing thing I had ever seen. And I was like, oh, my goodness, that's it. It was the perfect display of athleticism, but theatrics. And I just thought to myself, that's what I want to do. And I can remember telling my mom at 12 years old, mama, I'm going to be a pro wrestler when I grow up. That's nice, honey. But in my mind, by the time I was 19 and got an opportunity to do it, being the Southwest heavyweight champion and having a one bedroom apartment and my own car was going to be the greatest thing in the world, right? And in 1985, I had been. I just started wrestling. And that was when Vince McMahon first began to go kind of global, right? The first WrestleMania was in Madison Square Garden. I was wrestling in Oklahoma City while WrestleMania was being shown on closed circuit TV at the arena. But I was wrestling while that show was going on. And all we did was hear about it. We heard about it, but then you thought to yourself, like, wow, that's cool. But at that time, all those guys in the territory were telling you, he's going to ruin the business. He's going to kill he's ruining everything. Two years later, I'm in Minnesota wrestling, but we're on ESPN now.
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Shannon Sharpe
Wow.
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Shawn Michaels
It was now on cable television. They're trying to compete with Vince. But now everybody knew that New York, New York was the place you wanted to be. So that's the time again, it was probably 1986 that you started realizing that what he's got going on there is big. But again, had no idea that it would become what it is now. So, no, I was somebody that got into it. I guess to answer your question, you.
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Shannon Sharpe
Knew early on this. I knew this, what I wanted to.
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Shawn Michaels
Do, but a one bedroom apartment and my own car seemed like the greatest thing in the world. And now we have a life unlike I'd never possibly imagined I would have.
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Shannon Sharpe
I had a. Sat down with Ric Flair, 16 time champ, sat down with John Cena. We had USO, we had, I've had many wrestlers and talk to many said the greatest wrestler ever is Shawn Michaels. Ric Flair says your understanding of the moment and the timing and the theatrics of it, what goes into it, there's nobody even I said, well, what about you? I said, he says, there's no one close to Shawn Michaels. He's the greatest, he says, and that's no disrespect to Hogan, that's no disrespect to anyone. Dusty Rhodes, all those guys, there's no disrespect to them, he said, but Shawn Michaels is the greatest wrestler. When you hear someone as established and it's as, as, as well thought of as the nature boy himself say that Shawn Michaels is the greatest, how does that make you feel?
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Shawn Michaels
It's the, it's the greatest compliment a guy could have to be even be in the conversation.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
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Shawn Michaels
And I always, I don't know for me whether it was Rick. I always tried to. Our business is what it is, right? It's, it's entertainment.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes, yes.
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Shawn Michaels
But you can still love that. Again, I was still, even though, because I went through my ups and downs, you know, trials and tribulations, but when I was in there, I was, I was the most romantic guy there was about this job.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
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Shawn Michaels
I was still the 12 year old kid in there every time, especially when I was in there with Rick or some of these guys. But being at a WrestleMania with John or, I don't know, I was so enamored. I never fell out of love with the opportunity of being able to go in there and do that. And so I think if there was anything that might have been able to set me apart from everybody is that I fully grasp and engaged with that love and that passion and that again, that romance. Again, we say this the old saying with, you know, there's certain wrote, you know, who. Who can't be romantic about baseball, who can't be romantic about football. I always, I guess how wrestling was for me, right. It was. It was my life blood. And so I always allowed myself to be in there in those moments. And I think that came across to people, I think they could see that I was so enamored with what I was doing in there. And I gave myself over to that in a way that made them buy into it was real to me while it was going on in there, because every ounce of it was for me. And it was. It was an opportunity to be able to. I don't know, to convey my love for this unbelievable job that I had. So. I don't know. I. I hope that answers your question and I hope that kind of gets it there. So.
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Shannon Sharpe
You know what?
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Stanford Red
I have one question. That always happens. It happened to all of us that have played a sport with regards to what respective crap that it is you do once you transition and you no longer can play said sport. Have you been able to find something else that you're passionate about and that you love, that you can pour into the same way you did wrestling that made you one of the greatest.
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Shawn Michaels
I'll say this, for me, it's obviously my family, but it's also this again. It is now because again, I had a wonderful change in my life with my faith and my wife and our children. Now I'm able to do this job, but I'm able to pass it forward. I feel like I'm fulfilling my purpose. I do one thing well in this lifetime and it's wrestle. And I'm able to use that gift to give other young men and women that come through the doors of the Performance center in Orlando, Florida, the opportunity to have the amazing life that I've been given through this line of work and so. And hopefully have an influence on them to live that in a positive and, you know, successful way. But still. Still be intact.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
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Shawn Michaels
When they're done with it, you know, again, whether it's, you know, the NFL, the NBA or wrestling, the wwe, we have good stories and we have very sad and tragic stories. I want there's to be a story that ends with joy and happiness and peace. And so that's something again, that Hunter put into the Performance center when he started it 14 years ago, was a culture that was going to be unlike the business that we broke into.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
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Shawn Michaels
And that is something that we, yes, we want to pass the tools of professional wrestling forward, but at the same time we want the culture of our business to be different and to be more positive than it was when we got into it. We want to leave it better off than the way we came into it. And that's one of the things that we're trying to do. Obviously, you know, from a culture perspective as well.
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Shannon Sharpe
You know, when you devote so much of your life and your time to something, when you give so much to something, it takes a little from you. Also when you travel and you do what you do because people think, well, well, Sean's only wrestling once a year because he's only doing the main event. He's only doing, you know, summerfest or SummerSlam. That's not the case. You guys are on the road sometimes to 250, 300 days a year. And yes, it's entertainment, but you're actually falling, you're falling on that mat, you're falling on those chairs, you're falling on that. And so it's it. You play the game of football, you play the game of baseball, basketball, long enough. Your body, it takes a toll on your body. How have your body, how did your body feel now at 60 that you look back on it like, you know what? Because people ask Ocho and I all the time, knowing what you know now about the concussions and the toll is going to take on your body, would you do it again? Yep, absolutely. Probably would have started earlier if knowing what you know now and how your body feel, Sean, would you do it again?
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Shawn Michaels
Hell yes. I have had my back fused, I've had my shoulder replaced, I got two knees that I'm getting replaced in probably a month. And I wouldn't change it for anything in the world. Again, it's. I knew that going in as you guys did, I knew the price that was going to come along with it. When I worked on the road, we did 286 days. When I got a part time schedule, it was 150 days and I enjoyed every minute. I was fortunate again, especially later in my career to have a wife and children that understood that they still support me now, as you know, that's so important to have.
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Shannon Sharpe
Absolutely.
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Shawn Michaels
But again, it's a part of who I am and who I've always been and they recognize that. So, yeah, I'm with you guys. I, you know, if they'd have given me a chance to start earlier, I Would have. But again, you couldn't. You had to wait till you were 19 to get a license in Texas to be a wrestler. So I waited Till I was 19.
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Shannon Sharpe
You are a part of many, many blockbuster wrestling events. This one we have, Canelo versus Crawford, is proud of the biggest event that we've had in the boxing arena in a very, very long time, because you got two champions. Undisputed champions, Bud. In the four BET era, he's the first male to be a undisputed champ in two weight classes. Canelo has dominated the. The 168 division for the longest time. When you look at this fight and you look at it from a distance, an outside guy that loves fighting. What. What. What do you. What do you think? How do you think this thing's gonna play out?
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Shawn Michaels
So I guess for me, the biggest thing for me is that I'm. It's. I'm happy to see boxing back to where. I guess I'll say, at least for me, and I hope that comes across well back to where it once was.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
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Shawn Michaels
You know what I mean? I think that's the most positive thing coming out of all of this. What everything's said and done. I will just say I'm not the most educated, but for me, it's hard to go, you know, against Canelo.
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Shannon Sharpe
Right.
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Shawn Michaels
And I guess, you know what I mean, that's just. There's so much there, a dominance there. And I guess in my lifetime, every time there's been a dominance like that in boxing, yes, it's got to end sometime. But I'm one of those people just think that it's. Not yet.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, well, I was going to ask you, but since you got to get both knees replaced, I guess there ain't no chance of you getting back in the ring.
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Shawn Michaels
Not a chance. Not a chance. Look, even if they weren't, I'm so blessed and so fortunate to have done what I've done. But it is. I am so overjoyed to be doing what I do now and helping, you know, the future of the WWE and to be a part of that. NXT is just, you know, thriving on Tuesday nights on the CW Network. And to help these young men and women, you know, again to achieve their. Their passions and their dreams is something that I didn't know. I had no idea I had enjoyed this much. But it is so great because I think the business is in just tremendous hands for the future.
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Shannon Sharpe
When did you know it was over? When did you know? When did Shawn Michaels know? I can't do anymore If I won another title, it's not going to change anything. When did you know it was time to step away?
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Shawn Michaels
So my body still felt great. I still had plenty of left in the tank. But I had a match again. It was the one with Undertaker. WrestleMania 25 in Houston. That made me feel so peaceful in a way that I'd never felt after a match in my entire life. I can remember driving home, because that's when we lived. We still lived in Texas, and we were driving home from Houston and I looked at my wife and I said, honey, that might be the one I ended it on. And she looked at me, she said, what? And I said, yeah. I said, I feel a peace over me that I've never felt after a match before. And that's when we began to have the conversation. And it was the next year they wanted to go back with one more with the Undertaker, and we obviously, you know, put my career on the line and all that kind of stuff, and I just. It was just. I had seen so many people struggle with it, leaving and walking away.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, it's hard. Getting in is easy. Sean is to get well.
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Shawn Michaels
And I watch so many guys struggle with that. And I felt like here I was at this opportunity where that wasn't going to be the case.
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Shannon Sharpe
That was going to be you. Yeah.
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Shawn Michaels
And I was still healthy. I was still able to go. I was able to leave, as they say, on a high note.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
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Shawn Michaels
And so I just couldn't picture it any. It couldn't picture it being any more perfect than that. And so made that decision and have never looked back and regretted it again. You know, I don't know. I just. It was something that I've had such peace with. And again, like I said, I feel very fortunate to have had that because I know so many have struggled with it in the past.
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Stanford Red
Even though you have peace, do you miss it?
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Shawn Michaels
I don't. Not being in there, the. The physical aspect of it.
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Stanford Red
Right.
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Shawn Michaels
I don't miss the travel. I don't miss. I guess I'm able now to still kind of get that same charge when we're sitting there and I'm telling a story to these talents where I'm trying to convey this is what we're looking for out of this match and we're going to tell this story and this is going to happen. And at the end, hopefully they. They come unglued. And when that happens and it all comes together, it's that feeling once again. But it's you watching the joy in that talent's heart and again when they're finally getting it. So it's, it's, it's in a different aspect that I receive kind of that charge that I used to have when I got in the ring.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes, sir. Last question. Is there anybody that's currently wrestling, be it wwe, been an nx, nxt, Non Stop Wrestling? Is there anybody that reminds Shawn Michael, Shawn Michael that you see?
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Shawn Michaels
I'll say this, from an NXT standpoint, we have an unbelievable roster. I think somebody who you have to keep an eye on. He's 21 years old and his name is Javon Evans.
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Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
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Shawn Michaels
He's unbelievably dynamic, unbelievably talented, gifted. He just turned 21, I believe. And the future is so bright for that young man. He's going to be somebody that's going to be very big in the wwe and obviously, I think probably before long he'll probably be a flag bearer in nxt. So excited to see the trajectory of his career.
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Shannon Sharpe
Thanks for coming on. Give us a few moments of your time. The great Shawn Michaels, ladies and gentlemen.
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Shawn Michaels
Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you guys.
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Shannon Sharpe
Appreciate it, y'. All. Thank you. Oh, man, this is, this was amazing. To really sit down and like I said, I've been a wrestling fan. My grandfather used to take my brother and I to wrestling matches. Savannah Civic center, we used to go to Baxley, we used to go to Vidalia. Yeah. Used to take my brother and I and we see all those. When it was Georgia Championship Wrestling and it was great, it was great. And to, to sit down and, and have a conversation. Like I said, I've interviewed Ric Flair, I've interviewed John Cena, met a lot of wrestlers and, and to sit down with Shawn Michaels, it was, it's, it's been great and I'm glad we got an opportunity to check to catch up with him.
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Stanford Red
Yeah, Stan, what they do, baby. Man, listen, if I had your hands, I cut mine off, man.
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Shannon Sharpe
Get me some McDonald's, man, so you can get in shape, you know what I mean? We got legendary broadcaster Stanford Red joining us. Stan, how you doing? Doing great, man.
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The Undertaker
Doing great. Nothing like the energy of fight night in Vegas.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes. There's nothing like, there's nothing like a fight. Vegas was, Vegas was built on fighting.
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The Undertaker
Absolutely.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. We got the casinos, we understand that. But there's something about abuzz, the electricity that's in the air when a big time fight hits town in Vegas.
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Stanford Red
And the fun, the funny thing about it is, is it took a fight like this to get that magic to get that buzz back in Vegas. There have been many fights, but nothing just like this that brings back that, that feeling of Manny Pacquiao Mayweather.
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The Undertaker
Absolutely. I was here, we were here for eight days. I was with ESPN then. We were here for eight days for that fight. ESPN said, we want to own this fight. So I was parked here the whole.
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Shannon Sharpe
Time and, you know, you could just.
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The Undertaker
Feel it ramping up as the week went on, you know, and then by the time we got to the fight, it was, it was, it was unbelievable.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. So you mentioned you, you and Neil Leverett, you guys are transition. You're going to try to try to recreate what you guys had on espn. If I'm not mistaken, I think I read you going to Twitch.
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The Undertaker
Yes.
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Shannon Sharpe
So you take, you take, you're taking your talents to Twitch.
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The Undertaker
Exactly.
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Shannon Sharpe
What was the thought process in doing that?
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The Undertaker
So our producer, Jeff Anderson is really in tune with the digital space.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [29:11]
The Undertaker
And so he saw that Twitch gave us a lot of functionality to do live. Because initially it was, it was mostly gamers on Twitch.
- [29:20]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes. And so, you know.
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The Undertaker
Exactly. So they need a lot of functional capability.
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Shannon Sharpe
Right.
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The Undertaker
To go live, you got, you got to be able to see the gamers, you got to be able to see the action on the screen. So we are sort of adapting that for sports now. It's already, Chad, you probably know, the European soccer guys are already on Twitch and they're doing live shows on Twitch already.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
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The Undertaker
There's a bunch of radio stations that are, that are streaming their shows on Twitch. So it's, you know, we think we found something, something really, really good in that platform that helps us go live, interact with fans who are listening to the show, watching the show. They can, they can ask questions, they can comment, and we can deal with them in real time. And then we take the show later, we put it on YouTube and all this platforms.
- [30:06]
Shannon Sharpe
I like it. So we're gonna get you out of here on this one. Prediction. What do you think is going to happen? Canelo Crawford. Crawford taking a big, Taking a big risk. Going up, basically pole vaulting. Three weight classes. Canelo is, you know. Yeah, it's Canelo.
- [30:20]
The Undertaker
The, the thing is, I think it's going to come down to can Canelo handle Bud's ability to switch South Park.
- [30:30]
Stanford Red
Orthodox, which is why he had boots and camp.
- [30:33]
The Undertaker
Exactly, exactly. Versus Bud's ability to take a punch.
- [30:40]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
- [30:41]
The Undertaker
I. I don't know. I don't know if sparring wise, he had anybody.
- [30:45]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
- [30:45]
The Undertaker
Who's as big as Canelo. In camp who hits with the power of Canelo. Because if you had somebody that big who hits that hard, he wouldn't be a sparring partner, Right?
- [30:53]
Shannon Sharpe
Exactly.
- [30:54]
The Undertaker
Keep you wearing a belt.
- [30:55]
Shannon Sharpe
Exactly.
- [30:56]
The Undertaker
You know what I mean?
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Shawn Michaels
So.
- [30:56]
Shannon Sharpe
So.
- [30:57]
The Undertaker
So I think in the first couple of rounds, I mean, it's going to be interesting to see if Bud feels like I can box, I can fight him. I can stand in the middle and fight him.
- [31:05]
Shannon Sharpe
No.
- [31:06]
The Undertaker
Or if he. If. If he's gonna box him, you know what I mean?
- [31:09]
Shannon Sharpe
I don't think he can get lured.
- [31:10]
The Undertaker
Into trying to trade and trade with.
- [31:13]
Shannon Sharpe
Him because Macho down some heavy hands, you know?
- [31:15]
The Undertaker
So. So it's gonna. Is it gonna be a slug fest or is it gonna be a boxing match slugfest? Advantage, Canelo. If it's a boxing match, advantage. But yeah. So we'll see. Styles dictate fights.
- [31:25]
Shannon Sharpe
Yep. Always good luck to you and Neil on the endeavor on Twitch. Congratulations on the great success that you had the 25 years at ESPN. Thank you, man.
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The Undertaker
Hey, man, I'm trying to be like you guys, you know what I mean? So if you have anybody with any more hundred million dollar contracts, you know.
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Triple H
Tell them you got some people who are interested.
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Shannon Sharpe
Will do.
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The Undertaker
Hey, man, good seeing you guys.
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Shannon Sharpe
All right. All right.
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The Undertaker
Thank you. How you doing?
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I'm good.
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Triple H
Good man. How are you?
- [35:24]
Shannon Sharpe
We're doing amazing.
- [35:24]
Triple H
Thanks for having me on.
- [35:25]
Shannon Sharpe
Now we hear there's like a. Like you got something big that you want to announce. Is there any hint, you know, you want to like, devote? You want to. You want to let us in on right now?
- [35:35]
Triple H
I don't want to be the worst secret keeper on the planet.
- [35:37]
The Undertaker
You know what I mean?
- [35:38]
Triple H
Yeah, we got some. We got some big news today about the future and how things are happening with wwe. But it's going to be exciting and I'm. I'm thrilled we get to do it here today in the shadow of Canelo Crawford.
- [35:51]
Shannon Sharpe
It's nice, because if I'm not mistaken, WWE and ufc, now, you guys are under the same umbrella. Tko.
- [35:58]
Triple H
Yes, absolutely. Tko. It's. It's wwe, ufc, pbr Pro Bull riding in there, you know, the few other random things. But. But yeah, it's great to be partnered with him. It's great. Dana's a genius. Thrilled to work with him. And, and, and so far, it's. It's a. It's a wonderful collaboration.
- [36:16]
Shannon Sharpe
Is this secret anything to do with WrestleMania 2027? I mean, could it possibly be anything?
- [36:23]
Triple H
I. You are in the ballpark.
- [36:25]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm in the ballpark.
- [36:25]
Triple H
You are in the ballpark.
- [36:26]
Stanford Red
Here we go.
- [36:27]
Triple H
For sure. Yeah, I'm. I'm just going to say sometimes secrets are hard to keep around here. So there might be room, rumors floating.
- [36:33]
Shannon Sharpe
Around, I don't know, to get in the sport of wrestling. I mean, obviously, you know, obviously, you know, your father in law and, and you guys, you're running and you're doing a great job of this right now, Triple H, doing what you do. But as a kid, did you. Did you. Did you always want to wrestle? Did you do other things? Or how did you. How did you get into the sport of wrestling?
- [36:53]
Triple H
Yeah. So it's a funny thing is as. As you grow up, especially then. And it's one of the reasons why I did what I did in the. Within the company of creating what we call nxt. That's our developmental system.
- [37:03]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [37:04]
Triple H
Because there was. There was never a pathway to get into pro wrestling. If you want to be a WWE Superstar, it's like trying to be a trapeze artist. Where do you start?
- [37:13]
Shannon Sharpe
Right, right.
- [37:14]
Triple H
And I grew up a huge fan. Really, in the back of my mind, you know, man, that if I could do what if you would said to me as a kid, what's the one thing you'd want to do? Be a WWE Superstar. I did all the other sports. Started bodybuilding and lifting weights when I was 14 with the. The mindset of if I want to be a wwe, so I'd go to the shows. See, these guys are huge. I gotta get. I gotta get bigger. I gotta, you know, I gotta get there. So, you know, you had to find a way. I was lucky in that I. Somebody pointed me in the right direction. I had met a World's Strongest man, Ted Arcidi, at the time, and he.
- [37:51]
Shannon Sharpe
First got a bit £700.
- [37:53]
Triple H
First guy to bench press £700. And, and, and had a brief stint in the wrestling business.
- [37:58]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [37:58]
Triple H
Parlayed that into business for himself. Very smart guy. You know, I had met him and asked him, how do I get in the business? And he would always try to discourage me from it. And, and then eventually when I bugged him enough, he gave me a number. I went trained with Killer Kowalski, and yeah, fortunately for me, it took off. But now we've changed that game. We've tried to make the pathway. So we recruit heavily in colleges. We have an nil program, we call it Next in Line. We have nil kids across the country that have an interest in WWE that are part of promoting us to all these events that they go to. And then we work with all those kids that have an interest in this or maybe didn't know they had an interest, but you know, you know better than anybody, right? Like the NFL, it's such a small percentage of folks that get in there. You can be the best of the best and all of that, but then there's this moment in time where you have a. Whatever the slightest, you know, difference, and you're not going to make it. And this is a career choice for them where, you know, they come to Orlando, Florida, they see our facilities, they think, wow, this is like being in a D1 college. I have that level of professionalism. Let me give this a shot. And it's performance, so it's athletic performance. And if they can make it work for them, then the sky's the limit, just like any other sport.
- [39:23]
Shannon Sharpe
You guys are based. That training center is in Orlando, right?
- [39:26]
Triple H
It's in Orlando. We're in the process of building a new one now in Orlando. It'll be even bigger and better.
- [39:31]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
- [39:32]
Triple H
Our main offices are in Connecticut.
- [39:34]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [39:34]
Triple H
And la. But, but, but Orlando's the developmental.
- [39:37]
Stanford Red
When I, When I think about all you. You've accomplished your thought growing up as a kid, always wanting to. Always wanting to wrestle. Everything that you poured into the sport, it's pouring back into you now. Are you able to have a life outside of wrestling at all, where you can have other hobbies, other passions that you actually enjoy?
- [39:54]
The Undertaker
Yeah.
- [39:54]
Triple H
Though, you know, I'm going to get to go on a limb and say, probably, like both of you, I enjoy fitness, I enjoy being in the gym. Like, that's, that's my, that's my solitude. That's my church, that's my place. I go to ground and have that foundation for me is training and all of that. But then other than that, it's my wife and my kids, you know, my family. You know, it's not like my wife wasn't in the business as well. My family, all of that. So sometimes hard to get away from. But I say this to people all the time, and I think you two will get this. People talk about work, life, balance. It's. There is no such thing.
- [40:33]
Shannon Sharpe
You know, you want to be great at something, there ain't no and.
- [40:36]
Triple H
And all you can really do is your best at whatever it is you're doing in that moment. So when I'm at work, I try to be at work. When I'm with my kids, I try to put work aside and dedicate that time to my kids or my wife or whatever that's. Whatever that is that we're doing. And not sort of be, oh, yeah, I'm at my kids between places that my kids game or.
- [40:56]
Shannon Sharpe
Or with them.
- [40:56]
Triple H
But I'm on my phone the whole time trying to do business, right? I tell people I'm gonna be off for an hour or two. I'll pick back up in a little bit. Now I'm with them. And, you know, that's. It's hard. It's easy to say that, harder to do it, but that's. That's the goal for me. And, you know, I'm. I'm thrilled that at this point in my life, I still get to do what I love. You know, a lot of people, when they.
- [41:18]
Shannon Sharpe
When.
- [41:19]
Triple H
When they finish football, they finish basketball, they finish wrestling, whatever it is, it all just stops, right? And. And that's hard to handle. For me, it's never stopped when I couldn't do this anymore. I was already plugged in maybe deeper than I even wanted to be and everything else. So, you know, for me, I've been fortunate that that passion that I have for it still continues to this day. And I say this a lot. For me, it's almost like now as I get to help these other kids grow and. And find success in this business, it's almost like watching your kids do it, you know, your own career is fabulous. Your own achievements are incredible. When your kids do it, when your kids reach their goal, when they have that moment, you know, it's. It's a different level of. Of pride.
- [42:04]
Shannon Sharpe
And.
- [42:05]
Triple H
And I think that's where I'm at with it now is watching these kids succeed and do what they do. To me Is almost more than my career was.
- [42:12]
Shannon Sharpe
H. How hard is it? Because. And I wish you had Shawn Michaels before you came on and he was so gifted. You were so gifted at what you did and it came natural to you. And when you try to. You try to tell someone else how to do it. And they said, well, how. He was like, why can't you pick that up? Because it was so easy to you. How is it that you. Because I think the greater the athlete is, probably the harder it is for him to do it. Because a lot of things were God given.
- [42:37]
Triple H
Yeah.
- [42:37]
Shannon Sharpe
He doesn't understand. He or she doesn't understand how they did it. They just did it, just came natural.
- [42:42]
Triple H
I find that all the time. Look, I like to think for myself. I, you know, I think to some degree I was gifted for it, but to some degree I wasn't. Sean is one of the most incredible athletes I've been Right. And can do stuff. And, you know, one of my favorite opponents, I've said it all the time. I think he's the greatest in ring performer of all time. His athletic ability second to none. I didn't have that. I had to learn the other aspect. You know, to me, I don't know, this is reference to my childhood, but to me, I was much more Larry Bird than I was. Right. Anybody else. Yeah. Because he wasn't the most athletic guy, couldn't jump the highest, couldn't run the fastest. But his, his knowledge is all that stuff. Right. So I had to put in the work on the other side. But I have seen that a million times over, where you see guys that are incredible at what we do and then they try to tell somebody else. And I'm like, what are you talking about? That's totally wrong. You don't even know why you do work.
- [43:39]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
- [43:39]
Triple H
You know, and it's tough for people to get, but it's. I'm a big collaborator for stuff. So if I'm trying to explain things to somebody or try to get them to a certain place is not working. Let somebody else take a stab at it. Yeah, it just takes that one sometimes. Buzzword or the right perspective for somebody to go like, oh, he told me, I didn't get it at all. But what you just said. Yeah, I get that.
- [44:03]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
- [44:03]
Triple H
You know, and that's a different. It's a different take. And sometimes they just got to figure it out for themselves.
- [44:08]
Shannon Sharpe
For themselves.
- [44:08]
Triple H
Yeah.
- [44:10]
Shannon Sharpe
No, but when growing up, and I know you said you came to the sport, so how long have you been in this thing? 30 years.
- [44:17]
Triple H
Oh, yeah, I started 92, 93.
- [44:21]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
- [44:22]
Triple H
Yeah.
- [44:22]
Shannon Sharpe
So by that time, Vance had already kind of like taken it from WWF to wwe, but we're talking to Sean. And I grew up in the south. And so it was Georgia Championship Wrestling with Gordon solely.
- [44:33]
Triple H
Yes.
- [44:33]
Shannon Sharpe
And wrestling was regional. You had the Mid Atlantic, you had the Midwest, you had the Southwest. And so now what, what Vince was able to do was bring all of that under one umbrella. And so now you didn't have. You had the NW also. So I remember NWA awa.
- [44:49]
Triple H
Yeah, it was. And it was all over the place. Yeah.
- [44:51]
Shannon Sharpe
So I used, my grandpa used to take my brother and I to all these little, you know, to see Bobo Brazelle and Crusher Blackwell and Andre the Giants. We saw all. Dusty Rose, all these guys coming up. And I remember like, man, man, I want to be a wrestler, but then football kind of, kind of like captivated me. Was it like that for you when you saw it for the first time? Did you understand? Like, man, I kind of like that. I kind of digged. I think I could do that.
- [45:15]
Triple H
I did, I did. I was a kid and, and, and very young, but man, it was for me and, and I was fortunate. I grew up in the. I born and raised in New Hampshire, right. So Boston Sports for me, I grew up in the Larry Bird era, the Parish and all those guys. Right. McHale and all that. I also grew up in the Carl Yastremsky and the Red Sox era. Right. Like everybody, that Boston sports scene was incredible. But for me, I was aware of all that and I'd go to some of that. But the thing that resonated for me was wrestling. And like you, I was fortunate. When Cable came in where I lived, I got the wwe, but I got the nwa, I got Georgia Championship, I got Florida, I got Texas, I got the awa. Yeah. So I had this, this well rounded sort of view of what the business was because they were all slightly different. Vince was a genius that saw cable coming in the. And the regional, going away national, becoming the thing and eventually global to some degree for the talent. That time frame was almost better because the guys that you saw that were successful at the highest of levels, like in wwe, had been places for years honing their craft.
- [46:30]
Shannon Sharpe
And yes, right.
- [46:31]
Triple H
You just read about them in magazines, but maybe you hadn't seen them wrestling magazine.
- [46:35]
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know if they still have to do. They still have.
- [46:37]
Triple H
They do, but you know, who reads magazines? You know what I'm saying?
- [46:40]
Shannon Sharpe
Everybody.
- [46:42]
Triple H
Yeah. It's a click and, and you're there and you get all the information. But yeah, the time was different and that ability to go all those different places. Now we get these kids, they come in from college in a couple of years, if they start doing this and they start training, hopefully within a couple of years they're on nxt, they've got national exposure on the CW that you know, people could have only dreamed of years ago.
- [47:06]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [47:07]
Triple H
And it's changed and you know, it's an interesting thing is like you talk about football, if you go slightly back just before my generation of it, football wasn't the money making, no thing that it is now. So you had guys like Wahoo McDaniel, Big Cat, Ernie Ladd who were wrestling in the offseason.
- [47:23]
Shannon Sharpe
Wahoo played for the Broncos. Ernie Lab played for the Kansas City Chiefs.
- [47:27]
Triple H
Absolutely. And for a lot of them, they would play if they, you know, unless they were top guys. Like the money was better year round in wrestling than it was for the short season of football.
- [47:36]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
- [47:37]
Triple H
And, and a lot of them gravitated out of football and into wrestling full time.
- [47:41]
Shannon Sharpe
Some of them had to get part time jobs. Because you're right, there was not. I mean we look at it now, you see guys making 50 and 60 million dollars even. It wasn't like, like that.
- [47:50]
Triple H
No, there very few guys making six figures. Yeah, right.
- [47:53]
Shannon Sharpe
Like very, very few.
- [47:54]
Triple H
Very few.
- [47:55]
Shannon Sharpe
Very few. Basically, basically only your quarterbacks when I got in the league. Unite your quarterbacks. And then you had your top defensive linemen like Reggie White and Bruce Smith. But for the most part there were not a whole lot of guys making $500,000 or a million dollars. That was just unheard of money back then. Unless you were the top, top, top guys. What do you think is the ideal skill? So because you have to be, obviously you have to be able to be able to entertain, but you have to be athletic, you have to be able to scale, be skilled. And people don't realize that. Okay, yes, entertainment. But you hit the mat.
- [48:28]
Triple H
Oh, without a doubt. Yeah.
- [48:30]
Shannon Sharpe
You run into the turn vocals accumulation of that. It adds up.
- [48:35]
Triple H
H, absolutely. You know, our business, like getting in a car crash every day, it is, you know, and, and it's day after day and there's no offseason and, and so it's, it's a tough, very physical business. It's not for everybody.
- [48:48]
Shannon Sharpe
People think, you know, they think H, people think because they only see the SummerSlam and they only see the, the big events that that's all there is.
- [48:55]
Triple H
That's all they do.
- [48:56]
Shannon Sharpe
No that thing is like. And Shan, Michael was saying he traveled in the beginning 286 days.
- [49:04]
Triple H
Yeah, yeah. We all did then. Now it's different now. Right.
- [49:08]
Shannon Sharpe
The. The.
- [49:09]
Triple H
It's much more a weekly. You know, you're wrestling once, twice a week. It's a. It's a lot better family life for people.
- [49:18]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
- [49:18]
Triple H
We. We have brought that into a place. When you're trying to build a business, you got to do it differently. And now it's in a different place, and the money is different and everybody's living different, but the physicality is still there. It's not there. And, you know, I say this to everybody.
- [49:33]
Shannon Sharpe
The.
- [49:33]
Triple H
The casualty rate's 100. No one walks away unscathed in our business. Is you're going to get injured.
- [49:39]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [49:40]
Triple H
It's going to happen just a matter when.
- [49:41]
The Undertaker
Yeah.
- [49:42]
Shannon Sharpe
And.
- [49:42]
Triple H
And you've got to deal with that. And then if you're. If you're at the right mindset and you're driven, you come back better and you come back harder. But the thing in our business that's interesting is it's not always the most athletic. And, and, and you said it a little bit ago that sometimes the most athletic guys, it comes easy to them. And the. When. When gets hard, they. They don't push as hard. The. In our business, sometimes. I can make you a list of the guys you know. Hulk Hogan, Love him to death. Biggest star of all time. Not the most athletic guy on the planet.
- [50:17]
Shannon Sharpe
Correct. Yeah.
- [50:18]
Triple H
You know, John Cena. Not the most athletic guy. You know, a lot of those guys.
- [50:23]
Shawn Michaels
The.
- [50:23]
Triple H
The list of people who are incorporated incredibly. They have incredible charisma, incredible crowd presence. Incredible ability to control a crowd.
- [50:32]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [50:32]
Triple H
And tell a story.
- [50:33]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [50:33]
Triple H
That's more important. Charisma is king in our business.
- [50:35]
Shannon Sharpe
Absolutely.
- [50:36]
Triple H
So that the athleticism doesn't matter how fast you can run.
- [50:39]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [50:40]
Triple H
Doesn't matter how much you can bench press. Just matters if you look like you can.
- [50:43]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
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Triple H
And so it's a different. It's a different mindset.
- [50:46]
Shannon Sharpe
Right. That's what made Rick special. Rick could talk. Rick. Rick could talk. Dusty Rose, guys that can talk and can like limousine ride.
- [50:58]
Triple H
When you talk about those folks in that time frame when people can still quote their promos from that generation years after all these years, like, you know, half the kids today that are running around doing the limousine ride, jet flying.
- [51:14]
Shannon Sharpe
You know.
- [51:16]
Triple H
They'Re doing all that stuff. I don't even know if they've ever seen Rick wrestle, you know, and. And the same, you know, with Hogan. People can still repeat that. His catchphrases and his moments. The Rock, you know, Stone Cold, all those people. But Dusty Rhodes, people still talk about his Hard Times promo. Yeah, right. Like those things are iconic. That's. That is what we do.
- [51:40]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
- [51:41]
Triple H
We are. I say this a lot of times when people don't understand, like if we're talking to network executives, they're trying to figure out what we are. I say we are less boxing and more Rocky.
- [51:51]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
- [51:52]
Triple H
We're not, we're not the sport. We're a movie about the sport. And Rocky is really a love story.
- [51:58]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes. Right.
- [51:59]
Triple H
Just happens to have boxing as a background and the metaphor for all the things he has to overcome and do our business. When you talk about that emotion, you talk about the storytelling, you talk about all those things, that's really where it resonates.
- [52:11]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [52:11]
Triple H
And those are things. It's why our business is evergreen. Very few people, unless you're an incredible, you know, student of the technical aspects of it. Nobody goes back and watches a Super bowl from five years ago. People will go back and watch WrestleMania 3 to this day.
- [52:28]
Shannon Sharpe
Yep.
- [52:28]
Triple H
You know.
- [52:31]
Shannon Sharpe
Andre.
- [52:32]
Triple H
Yeah. 40 years later, they're still watching it.
- [52:34]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
- [52:34]
Triple H
It's the story, it's the spectacle. It's all those things.
- [52:37]
Shannon Sharpe
Things.
- [52:38]
Triple H
That's where we're different. We're, we're spectacle and storytelling. The athleticism is a huge factor of it. I don't want to negate it, the, the in ring product, all that stuff, but that ability to speak, that ability to control the crowd, that innate charisma, you know, that in, in other Sports, if Conor McGregor comes back and fights in UFC tomorrow, he's the biggest draw.
- [53:00]
Shannon Sharpe
They have because he can, he can sell it.
- [53:02]
Triple H
And he hasn't won a fight more, what, 10 years, probably in almost 10 years.
- [53:06]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
- [53:07]
Triple H
Like, it's incredible. Mike Tyson. Mike Tyson announces he's going to do something here. Everybody pays attention because his, he has that charisma and that innate ability to make you want to pay attention.
- [53:19]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. H. Thank you, man.
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Triple H
Thank you.
- [53:22]
Shannon Sharpe
Appreciate you coming in.
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Triple H
Thank you for having me, man.
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Stanford Red
It's good to see you, man.
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Shannon Sharpe
Anytime you need it, you know how to get.
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Triple H
Appreciate it, man.
- [53:29]
Shannon Sharpe
Appreciate you. Same here. Thank you.
- [53:30]
Triple H
Hopefully we'll see you at a show soon.
- [53:32]
Shannon Sharpe
Appreciate you.
- [53:33]
Stanford Red
I can wrestle. If you need me, let me know.
- [53:39]
Shannon Sharpe
Good to see you. That was. He actually he runs the. Took over for his, his father in law.
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Stanford Red
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Yeah. Wwe, that's Triple H. Hey, the Undertaker. I'm good. Good to see you, Undertaker.
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Good to see you.
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- [57:42]
Shannon Sharpe
Man, how you been?
- [57:44]
The Undertaker
I've been good, man. I'm busy, but we're. We're good.
- [57:47]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [57:48]
Stanford Red
Busy is a good thing.
- [57:48]
The Undertaker
Busy is a good thing.
- [57:49]
Shannon Sharpe
Man. You know that, that meme. Everybody should. That meme.
- [57:55]
The Undertaker
I got. I got more memes than I know what to do with, man. Is that when you know you made it? When you got memes.
- [58:01]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You've actually made it.
- [58:04]
Stanford Red
You have officially arrived once you have memes.
- [58:07]
Shannon Sharpe
So how you been?
- [58:08]
The Undertaker
I've been good, man. Really busy. A lot of things happening with WWE and.
- [58:14]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [58:15]
The Undertaker
Just trying to. Trying to lend a hand where I can.
- [58:18]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. When you got into the sport, did you have any idea that the WWE would be this. No. Would grow to what it's become?
- [58:26]
The Undertaker
Absolutely not, man. We. We were just trying to. We were trying to fill up arenas, make a little money.
- [58:32]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [58:33]
The Undertaker
And. And maybe sell. You know, back then, when we. When I started, there were four pay per views. Right? There was the big four. And, you know, that was. That was it. We were trying to sell pay per views, sell some T shirts, and no clue, no clue that Netflix was going to come along and the kind of money that. That, you know, these deals are.
- [58:53]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [58:53]
The Undertaker
This is. It's crazy. I don't. You can't imagine, you know, back in 1990.
- [58:58]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [58:59]
The Undertaker
What. What 2025 is gonna look like.
- [59:01]
Shannon Sharpe
And talking to Rick, Rick was talking about how he used to wrestle in high school gymnasium and he would wrestle three or four or five times in a single day. Yeah. In order to, you know, because there was no money. I mean, you guys making $50 with guys making just enough money to put gas in the car and go to the next locale. And here we are, guys are making real, real, real money. They got families, you know, they got wives, they got kids. They have nice homes now. It's. It's a. It's a different era now for wrestlers.
- [59:28]
The Undertaker
Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Those. We call that paying your dues, right? When you come up, you, you. And it's not even. There's so many times where I would have to go and help set up the ring just. Just to get on the card.
- [59:43]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
- [59:44]
The Undertaker
And maybe even have to, you know, sometimes chip in for some, you know, not make any money.
- [59:48]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
- [59:48]
The Undertaker
That's just how important ring time was. And we didn't have a, you know, you didn't have a PC or all the, all the, you know, the ways to prepare as we do now. And I, I was telling a story earlier about the first time that I went to. I went to like, an HR Block pay my. Like, I'm one year in the business, right? And I got this bag full of receipts, right, that I'm giving this guy. And he says. And he's reading it like I wrote it down wrong. He said, you drove in eight months. You drove 45,000 miles. And I was like, yes, sir. And he says, and you. And you made 12,226. And a guy was serious. It was. He was old timer, right? And he pulls his glasses down, he looks over his glass, he goes, son, can I give you some advice? You might want to find a different line of work. But I mean. But yeah, that was, that was paying your dues. And now here we are.
- [60:51]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [60:51]
The Undertaker
Right.
- [60:52]
Stanford Red
So speaking of line of work, growing up as a kid, did you actually know you wanted to wrestle from jump, or was there something else you want to do? For me, I wanted to be a marine biologist. I wanted to be a veterinarian because I was in animals. I was in the killer whales and dogs of that nature. Then football came on.
- [61:07]
The Undertaker
Right.
- [61:07]
Stanford Red
And that's. That's. That's what happened.
- [61:09]
The Undertaker
Right. No, I. I was a big, big fan as a kid of wrestling, but again, like, I thought I was gonna play football.
- [61:16]
Shannon Sharpe
Right, right.
- [61:16]
The Undertaker
And. And, you know, that was. That was always. I thought that was. That was my dream.
- [61:22]
Shannon Sharpe
That was your way out?
- [61:22]
The Undertaker
That was my way out. I ended up playing basketball, and then wrestling kind of came back around. You know, I was training at this gym between. I think it was between my Junior and senior year of college, and this guy's working out, and he's like, hey, man, you ought to. You ought to go through this wrestling school with me, man. You know, I'm gonna try and play some. Some pro ball overseas. Right, right. And every day I'd come in, he'd hit me up, and then kind of start kind of catching up the. With product in. And it was a lot different even then than when it was when I was a kid.
- [61:56]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
- [61:56]
The Undertaker
And I've always kind of been very like a pretty practical. And I know what my abilities are. My abilities aren't. And then, you know, I start thinking about it, like, do I want to be the 12th man on a bench in Lithuania at 21 or 22 years old?
- [62:10]
Stanford Red
Right.
- [62:10]
The Undertaker
And then I, you know, kind of like, well, damn, there's not a lot of big athletic guys in wrestling at the time. That's kind of how it started. And once I, Once I started training, then it was like, okay, yeah, this is it. This is what I want to do.
- [62:23]
Shannon Sharpe
But you mentioned it's a lot different now than it is. They got nxt, where they got the training program, just. H was on. Triple H was on. He said they're building an even bigger. Yes down in Orlando. That's where they send all the guys that, you know, people want to pass through and think they can make it into wwe. That's where they go through you guys. Guys didn't have that. So these guys now have an advantage that you guys didn't. Right. And they have guys that come like yourself, and they have Shawn Michael, who. Who's the director of that, to go back there and help them guys out. Have you found it difficult to be able to share what you know with kids? Because those that can do, those that can't teach, you could do. But now sometimes they ask you to teach.
- [63:06]
The Undertaker
Yeah, no, and that. That's a, That's a great question. But I think the biggest thing for me is that we have so many athletes now. Like, we recruit. Like, we.
- [63:17]
Shannon Sharpe
We will have people like, go to colleges.
- [63:20]
The Undertaker
Yeah, we go to. We. We go to, you know, yeah, we'll go to the combine. We'll go to pro days. And. And, yeah, we've got people there.
- [63:28]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [63:29]
The Undertaker
Because we have to continue feed the system.
- [63:31]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. Yes.
- [63:31]
The Undertaker
Right. When I came up, either you had it like, this is. I was a fan. I want to do this.
- [63:37]
Shannon Sharpe
You have a.
- [63:38]
The Undertaker
You have a certain understanding of the business. Right. Even as a fan.
- [63:41]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
- [63:43]
The Undertaker
We're getting people that have never been.
- [63:45]
Shannon Sharpe
Y'. All like the army now. Y' all looking for a few good men. But. But.
- [63:51]
The Undertaker
But not understand. We're taking them from ground zero. So they don't. They're not even. They don't understand the business or any concept.
- [63:57]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
- [63:57]
The Undertaker
So trying to. The way that I come up and the way that I. My process was. Yeah. Sometimes I get some blank stares like I have no idea what this man's talking about. And then you have to continue break it down and hopefully they feel we talk.
- [64:12]
Shannon Sharpe
Let me ask you. H. H was saying the big. The most important thing isn't athleticism, is charisma, is being able to hold this microphone and do what a Ric Flair could do. Do what what a Dusty Rose can do. Do what a rock can do. Do what a John Cena could do. Captivate that audience. Hold that audience. They're hanging on everything that you say. Yeah. People still can recite that. Ric Flair jet set. Yep. Limousine drive Rolex. Wear alligator. He spent more. He wasted more liquor in a year that you made in a lifetime. Yeah. They know that. Yeah. Would you say what do you think is the most important thing. Thing that a wrestler needs to have in order to be what you become? What Shan Michael was. What Rick.
- [64:57]
The Undertaker
You have to have the ability to make somebody care. Right. Bar none there. There's been a lot of guys that have made a lot of money that could wrestle a lick. I mean, if I'm being honest.
- [65:10]
Triple H
Right.
- [65:11]
The Undertaker
But again, you put this in their hand.
- [65:13]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [65:15]
The Undertaker
You're on the edge of your seat, like, oh, right, right. That's.
- [65:18]
Triple H
That's.
- [65:19]
The Undertaker
That's number one. You have to make. And you don't. They don't have to love you. They can hate you.
- [65:23]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
- [65:23]
The Undertaker
It doesn't matter.
- [65:24]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
- [65:25]
The Undertaker
They just have to have you. You have to be able to make people feel a certain way.
- [65:29]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [65:29]
The Undertaker
And if you got that.
- [65:31]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Everything else.
- [65:32]
The Undertaker
Everything else can take care of itself. You don't need to be. We always say Luth Luthez is an old time old, old timer that could really wrestle. He could do it. All right. So you don't have to be Luther's. But, man, if you can. If you can make somebody feel a certain way.
- [65:47]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [65:48]
The Undertaker
Then you got a really good chance of being successful.
- [65:50]
Stanford Red
That's dope.
- [65:51]
Shannon Sharpe
If I ask you, give me your. Your Mount Rushmore wrestlers, if I get. You get four heads to put on there the greatest wrestlers of all time, who would you put up there?
- [65:59]
The Undertaker
So again, I go back to who. Who were the most, I guess, instrumental in the history of Wrestling. And I put Andre the Giant on there. Hulk Hogan uk, Stone Cold. And the fourth, Ric Flair. I, I, I think those, those guys are synonymous with the, the history of our, of our industry right now. There's been guys that are better talkers, yes. Other guys have been better wrestlers, but for, for guys that, that had impact, those are, those are my four.
- [66:33]
Shannon Sharpe
And a lot of people don't really. Andre was at the very, very beginning, Cuz Andre started, I remember him, I saw him in Baxley, Georgia, when it was Georgia Championship Wrestling. Cuz it was, you know, south. It was regional. You had Mid Atlantic, you had the Midwest, you had Georgia, Florida, you had Southwest. And so I got an opportunity to see him. And I just remember as a kid looking like, there ain't nobody, there's no man in the world ever been this big.
- [66:57]
The Undertaker
You're right. Yeah. Most people didn't understand with Andre and this is what he was doing back then. He was in a different place every, every day. Yeah, right. He would be down in Mid south or, and then he would be in California, then he would go to Japan. Yeah, he was, he was the international superstar long before anybody else.
- [67:20]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
- [67:20]
The Undertaker
He was the first guy that was on Johnny Carson.
- [67:22]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [67:23]
The Undertaker
All of those shows.
- [67:24]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. And he did, he did. He, he didn't talk, but he would. People was in all of his size because nobody had ever seen a man that big. They had never seen a man with his hands that WORE A size 23 ring. And whatever size he was, he weighed 500 pounds over 7ft tall.
- [67:39]
Shawn Michaels
Right.
- [67:39]
Shannon Sharpe
So like, am I ever going to see somebody that size again in my life? I better, I better, I better enjoy this.
- [67:45]
The Undertaker
Yeah. And it's just, I remember going like, I grew up in Houston and, and I remember him coming to Houston, wrestling with the Sam Houston Coliseum there. I think I might have been 10 or 12 years old and got close enough, you know, to shake his hand and it was just like, like a catcher's mitt. Oh, my hand was lost.
- [68:04]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
- [68:05]
The Undertaker
But then 10 years later, I'm in the same dressing room with Andre the Giant.
- [68:10]
Shannon Sharpe
That's dope.
- [68:10]
Stanford Red
That's dope.
- [68:11]
The Undertaker
Now that's a full circle moment.
- [68:13]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [68:13]
The Undertaker
Yeah.
- [68:14]
Shannon Sharpe
And I remember when him and Big John stud f you, dude.
- [68:20]
The Undertaker
I just say this about Andre, if, if he want to be alone, he can be alone.
- [68:25]
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, Rick was telling stories like, if he liked you, he liked you. If he didn't like you, he didn't like you. And there was nothing nobody could say or do. And the match was going to Go how he said it was going to go. Absolutely.
- [68:36]
The Undertaker
And what are you going to do? What are you going to do with Andre whenever he says that's exactly what you're going to do.
- [68:43]
Shannon Sharpe
Now that we. We see the ufc, all this is under one umbrella. Ufc, you know, the boxing, pbr. I mean. And you see the crossover appealing. You see this big. Because I guess this is like. I mean, this fight here is as big the buzz, electricity that you have, like Pacquiao and, and. And Lois. Yes. If this is com. Because the way you guys put on a summer slam and you Summerfest and the way you guys do that, this is kind of like similar to the buzz that this is creating is very similar to what you guys do.
- [69:20]
The Undertaker
Yeah. Well, again, this is a. This may very well be the fight of the decade. Right. I mean, these kind of fights just don't come along. And there's just something different about this caliber of fight. Right. I mean, I was at. I was at De La Hoya and Trinidad and Tyson and Lennox.
- [69:38]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [69:38]
The Undertaker
Like, it's just a different kind of buzz. And then when you put the machine of. Of TKO and got Netflix behind.
- [69:46]
Shannon Sharpe
Netflix behind you, you got your guy, Turkey.
- [69:50]
The Undertaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah. His Excellency.
- [69:51]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [69:52]
The Undertaker
I mean, and he is such a huge sports fan.
- [69:56]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, man.
- [69:56]
The Undertaker
It's just, just. This is crazy, the buzz and the. In the attention that's going to be on this fight this weekend.
- [70:04]
Stanford Red
Yeah, I'm excited.
- [70:06]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm excited. When you watch, when you watch today, and I know you still a fan of the sport. When you watch today, do you see anybody, any young undertakers coming up?
- [70:19]
Triple H
It's.
- [70:21]
The Undertaker
It's hard. I mean, I see a lot of people, people that are coming up that are going to be. That have potential to be stars now, whether they're. They're. They're characters or what, anything are similar to my, like, I guess the closest within the past few years, obviously was Bray Wyatt. Yeah, we lost, you know, we lost him last year, but he was in that. In that category of Undertaker esque. Yeah. I don't know that anybody's really honed in there, but we have a lot of young talent coming up and it'll probably be debuting really soon because the machine again.
- [70:56]
Triple H
Yeah.
- [70:56]
The Undertaker
You got to fresh. Yeah.
- [70:58]
Shannon Sharpe
Did you pick the name Undertaker or did he give you that name? That.
- [71:01]
The Undertaker
That name was given to me by. By Vince. He. He had this.
- [71:05]
Shawn Michaels
He.
- [71:06]
The Undertaker
He had this envisioned in his mind, this character, and basically he needed a big guy with very limited, perfect personality. I'm your guy. Yeah. So, again, but it.
- [71:21]
Shannon Sharpe
It.
- [71:21]
The Undertaker
It was something that resonated with me. You know, when he was showing, you know, everything was on these big storyboards, and he's. I'm in his office and he's showing me this, and. And immediately my brain is like, oh, this. This is.
- [71:36]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I knew. Yeah.
- [71:37]
The Undertaker
Like, I knew. I didn't know what it was going to become, but I knew it was. Was different, and I knew it was special. And, yeah, I was like, yeah, this is. This is pretty cool.
- [71:45]
Shannon Sharpe
How many people over the last 15 years have called you by your real name or everybody just call you Undertaker?
- [71:51]
The Undertaker
Most people call me Taker. Taker or Dead Man. Right.
- [71:55]
Shannon Sharpe
That.
- [71:55]
The Undertaker
Dead man was my. Was my nickname.
- [71:57]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
- [71:58]
The Undertaker
And yeah, sometimes people, you know, they. They'll say mark, and I don't even turn around, but if I hear Taker, I know, hey, what's up?
- [72:06]
Shannon Sharpe
Right?
- [72:07]
The Undertaker
Or Dead Man.
- [72:07]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
- [72:08]
The Undertaker
But it's kind of funny, like when you're in public places and you know somebody, hey, Dead Man. And everybody's kind of looking around like, what the hell is wrong with him?
- [72:15]
Shannon Sharpe
What do you think The. The number one story that resonate with wrestling fans. The.
- [72:20]
The Undertaker
The number one.
- [72:20]
Shawn Michaels
I.
- [72:22]
The Undertaker
They just. They have to. Again, it goes back to that connection that I was talking about.
- [72:26]
Shannon Sharpe
If.
- [72:27]
The Undertaker
If they're invested in you and. And they care about. See, one of the. The. One of the things that a lot of the guys, it takes them a while to figure out because they're so athletic now, right? That that's what they want to put.
- [72:40]
Triple H
They.
- [72:40]
The Undertaker
That's what they want to display. They want to display their athleticism, and that's great.
- [72:44]
Shannon Sharpe
Right?
- [72:45]
The Undertaker
But at the end of the day, your audience will get desensitized.
- [72:49]
Triple H
Or.
- [72:50]
The Undertaker
Or you have to continue to push the envelope. Right? Like, okay, I've seen you do a double backflip off the top rope onto the floor to somebody, and I've seen that a couple times now. What do you got for me? Right, right.
- [73:01]
Shawn Michaels
But if.
- [73:02]
The Undertaker
If. If you can get them invested in. In the character, and if somebody does that character wrong, now you got them.
- [73:10]
Triple H
Yeah, right.
- [73:11]
The Undertaker
Because that's what it's all about. If you love somebody, you're gonna pay money to see that dude kick the other dude's ass.
- [73:15]
Shannon Sharpe
Right?
- [73:16]
The Undertaker
Or if you don't like that guy for a reason. I want this guy to whoop his. Right?
- [73:20]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm go. I'm gonna go. Whether he wins or whether I want somebody. Somebody to beat it, or I want him to win, but I'm gonna go see it that is.
- [73:26]
The Undertaker
That's the gist of what we do. Oh, yeah, we storytell and we try to get people invested in. In the characters. Wrestling isn't. And I tell people this a lot, especially the young guys. When you were asking me earlier, Wrestling isn't about wrestling moves. Wrestling is about telling stories.
- [73:44]
Shannon Sharpe
Stories.
- [73:45]
The Undertaker
We use the moves to help tell the story, but it's all on a. On a. On a connection and, and that's, you know, that's the biggest thing. Once that light bulb goes off, then you. Then you got a good chance of doing well.
- [73:58]
Stanford Red
I like that.
- [73:59]
Shannon Sharpe
You got anything you want to add?
- [74:00]
Stanford Red
Oh, no, that was it.
- [74:01]
Shannon Sharpe
That was.
- [74:01]
Stanford Red
That was good, man.
- [74:01]
Shannon Sharpe
It's been amazing. I mean, to sit down and. And to watch, like, growing up, like I said, I've been a fan and know the wrestling and to, To. To. To see you and H. And to see, you know, Shawn Michaels. And I sat down with Rich, with Rick, and I sat down with John Cena and to. To. To like, like you said, to. To watch guys on television and all of a sudden through this job allowed me to sit down and sort of cross from you, man. It is indeed an honor. Absolutely.
- [74:28]
The Undertaker
I appreciate you guys making time for me. This is. I. I enjoy, I enjoy y'.
- [74:32]
Shannon Sharpe
All.
- [74:32]
The Undertaker
I love Yalls banter and been big fans of Yalls career. That other career, you guys.
- [74:37]
Shannon Sharpe
I appreciate it. Yes, sir.
- [74:39]
The Undertaker
I appreciate it. Thanks for having me.
- [74:40]
Shannon Sharpe
Thank you, boss. It's a pleasure, baby.
- [74:43]
Shawn Michaels
How you doing?
- [74:46]
Charlotte Flair
I'm better now that I'm with you too.
- [74:47]
Stanford Red
I like it, I like it, I like it.
- [74:49]
Shannon Sharpe
Well, welcome to Night well Day Cap. Normally Night Cap. So how have you been?
- [74:53]
Charlotte Flair
Good. Yeah?
- [74:54]
Triple H
Yeah.
- [74:55]
Shannon Sharpe
Your daddy.
- [74:56]
Charlotte Flair
I'm here instead of Smackdown, so get the night off.
- [75:00]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Look, everybody knows your famous father.
- [75:02]
Charlotte Flair
Who's that?
- [75:04]
Stanford Red
The nature boy, the legend.
- [75:07]
Shannon Sharpe
Growing up watching your father, is this what you always wanted to do? No.
- [75:14]
Charlotte Flair
I don't think growing up in the era that my dad wrestled and being an athlete and seeing, like, what the women were doing at that time, I wasn't like, oh, I could be like that.
- [75:24]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
- [75:25]
Charlotte Flair
They were just so glamorous. And sometimes, like in bikinis, right. But whipped cream bikinis, it just wasn't like, I don't know, it wasn't a dream of mine. But my little brother wanted to be just like my dad.
- [75:37]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [75:38]
Charlotte Flair
Yeah. And he had a really bad drug addiction. So I thought if I started wrestling that we could wrestle together. And he ended up passing away. But now it's like I'm living both our Dreams. So I just thank him for having the guts to do it.
- [75:52]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
- [75:52]
Stanford Red
So if wrestling wasn't your dream and it was a dream of your brothers, what would you have done if you then transition into wrestling?
- [75:59]
Charlotte Flair
I don't know.
- [76:00]
Stanford Red
You don't know?
- [76:01]
Charlotte Flair
I think personal training or something.
- [76:03]
Stanford Red
That's a good one.
- [76:03]
Charlotte Flair
Sports realm.
- [76:04]
Stanford Red
That's a good one.
- [76:05]
Charlotte Flair
That's what I always played sports, so.
- [76:07]
Stanford Red
Right.
- [76:08]
Charlotte Flair
Something there.
- [76:09]
Stanford Red
That's dope.
- [76:10]
Shannon Sharpe
You received a lot of online hate because you came back from an injury and you immediately got a title shot.
- [76:17]
Charlotte Flair
Yes.
- [76:17]
Shannon Sharpe
And how. Look, because everybody's probably said you got a. You got fast tracked because you was Ric Flair's daughter. And so there was all. You probably always had to deal with hate because of your famous father. And you probably were able to deal with it a lot better than others. Not in the beginning, but as you got older because you had to deal with it for so long.
- [76:41]
Charlotte Flair
Kind of. Well, playing sports growing up, like, no one cared what you looked like.
- [76:45]
Shannon Sharpe
Right?
- [76:46]
Charlotte Flair
And like, also if you were the best player, you were the best player or team captain or hardest worker in the room, like, no one gave a shit. Excuse me, no one cared who your dad was. Like, they might have wooed at me. So like, I was used to that. But being in the entertainment industry, that also, you know, it is, it's sports and entertainment. I just wasn't prepared for the online hate, dealing with, like, why does she look like her dad? I don't know, I'm his daughter, Things like that. Like, I'm like, why is this that like such a big deal? But I definitely, obviously got in the door easy because of my dad. But there's, I mean, you don't, you still had to do it.
- [77:30]
Stanford Red
Yeah, you got to put it.
- [77:31]
Charlotte Flair
I did everything. Like, I've carved out my own path, but I still have that chip on my shoulder. Cuz it's like no matter what you do, no matter how many firsts you've had or how many awards, accolades, or best match of the night, it's like, still like, oh, Ric Flair. So. But it's okay. Like, you need haters in this world, right? You don't have haters, you got a problem.
- [77:53]
Stanford Red
Have you been able to deal with that and navigate having the haters? Regardless of the work and understanding I.
- [77:57]
Charlotte Flair
Have, when I first started, it was hard. I think it also propelled me to where I am today.
- [78:02]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
- [78:02]
Charlotte Flair
Like, it made me like, I think work that much harder.
- [78:06]
Shannon Sharpe
You mentioned, like, when you was growing up and your dad, the, the women. It's not like now you and Tori.
- [78:13]
Charlotte Flair
Wilson and the women definitely paved the way. They just weren't given the opportunity or the platform.
- [78:20]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
- [78:20]
Charlotte Flair
To show the world what they could do. So did. I mean, they had to do all of that so we could do all of this. And I'm. I'm definitely aware of that.
- [78:29]
Shannon Sharpe
But the women, I grew up watching your dad, very young age. You know, basically, they were the fabulous Moolah month.
- [78:35]
Charlotte Flair
Yeah.
- [78:35]
Shannon Sharpe
That was really the only. And. And you know, they would. They would. You see one woman's match a month.
- [78:44]
Charlotte Flair
They were just eye candy.
- [78:45]
Shannon Sharpe
That was it. And. But now you guys, you know, you and Bianca Belair and all these in sky. You guys get center stage, you guys.
- [78:55]
Charlotte Flair
We do, yeah.
- [78:55]
Shannon Sharpe
You guys get main event. What. When you think about it, like, man, I got. Got 20,000 people cheering.
- [79:03]
Charlotte Flair
Oh, I've had like 100, 1,000 people at&T.
- [79:07]
Shannon Sharpe
So I don't know what they're talking about.
- [79:11]
Charlotte Flair
I'm the first main event at MetLife. No, I think for me, what's. What's still, like, I still can't believe I'm here is. I can remember sitting front row when my dad wrestled Sean in Orlando when he retired. And I, like, I was a fan of wrestling. Like, I was a fan of my dad, but I didn't really follow it. I didn't have a favorite superstar. I was like, oh, Sting, he's like, super sexy or like, you know, like Triple H or Randy Orton. But I didn't really follow it. So to be sitting front row and then seeing all these grown men crying over my dad retiring and all these woo signs, I was like, oh, my dad, like, means a lot to this business. Like, I had no idea. I think I was a little sheltered from it. So to know that that little girl who sat. Well, I wasn't little. I was in my early 20s who sat and watched her father retire. I have now been on more manias. I'm main event mania. He didn't. Like, I have surpassed the things that he's done in the industry, but also to be a part of the industry that he helped create, not knowing that this was like, the path for me.
- [80:16]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
- [80:16]
Charlotte Flair
So that's what's like, crazy. And it's all happened in 10, 10 years. So, like, you can just change the course of your life, like, if you put your mind to it. Like, I truly believe that.
- [80:25]
Shannon Sharpe
When I had him on my show, I talked to him and I. I asked him, did he want you to do it? He said no. He tried to talk you out of it?
- [80:32]
Charlotte Flair
He did. Because he. That's a hard life. I mean, it's a lot different now, but it's just like the traveling. It's non stop. We don't have an off season. You're away from your family, you're away from your kids.
- [80:45]
Triple H
Kids.
- [80:45]
Charlotte Flair
It's like it takes a different kind of breed to do what we do.
- [80:49]
Shannon Sharpe
That's what he told me. He said, he said, shannon, if you're single, it's perfect. You got. No, you, you don't have. You don't have a wife, you don't have a girlfriend, you don't have kids. You know, you just tr. You just to work out. He said, for me, I just work out, wrestle on to the next. Wrestle, work out on to the next. He says, but when you get a family, you have kids, gets a little hard with the travel that you have to do. It's not like it was when he originally started because he was telling me there are some days it was harder.
- [81:15]
Charlotte Flair
Then than it is. Yeah, it was a lot harder, he.
- [81:17]
Shannon Sharpe
Said, but he was wrestling two, three, four times in a day. Now, you guys, you know, if you, you might wrestle once, maybe twice a week.
- [81:23]
Charlotte Flair
It is definitely more family oriented. Yes, I will say.
- [81:26]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
- [81:26]
Charlotte Flair
But it's still hard.
- [81:27]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, it's the travel.
- [81:29]
Charlotte Flair
It's being the travel and being. Yeah.
- [81:31]
Stanford Red
You know, the fact that you guys are so busy, your schedule is so hectic.
- [81:36]
Charlotte Flair
Yeah.
- [81:36]
Stanford Red
You travel so many days.
- [81:37]
Charlotte Flair
We don't have an off season. Unless you're injured, you don't have an off season. So when I tore my knee.
- [81:41]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
- [81:42]
Charlotte Flair
That was the first injury in eight years.
- [81:44]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
- [81:44]
Stanford Red
So then, now I'm thinking about outside of football. I have other, other interests. I have other hobbies that I really like. When do you ever have time to enjoy things that you like outside of wrestling?
- [81:55]
Charlotte Flair
Well, the business has evolved. So where before we were on the road four to five days a week and now we don't have as many. Many live event shows that aren't televised on the weekends. So really we just have Smackdown Raw. And if we're overseas, we have like the bigger televised events like Russell palooza coming up September 20th. So we do have more time, but I think you just have to, if there's something that you're really passionate about, you have to set time right aside for it.
- [82:25]
Stanford Red
Okay.
- [82:25]
Charlotte Flair
Oh, like Seth Rollins now being on the NFL Network, like that's so great for him. He loves football. He's able to find something else that he loves to do with wrestling. I Know, wrestling is his passion, but to see him doing that is really awesome.
- [82:38]
Shannon Sharpe
Being reported WrestleMania 43 is going to be in Saudi.
- [82:42]
Charlotte Flair
Crazy, right?
- [82:43]
Shannon Sharpe
Whoa.
- [82:43]
Charlotte Flair
I don't know what's more crazy, that it's in Saudi or that it's out of the United States.
- [82:47]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
- [82:48]
Charlotte Flair
That's what I mean by that. Like, it's always been our Super Bowl.
- [82:52]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [82:53]
Charlotte Flair
It's been in the United states since, what, 1985. So now that it is overseas, that's what makes it, like, how global we are. Well, I think that for wwe, we've had so many shows there now for the last couple of years, I feel like it is. I can't. I don't want to say home, but it is. You know, we. We wrestle there three or four times.
- [83:19]
Triple H
Right.
- [83:19]
Charlotte Flair
So to have a WrestleMania there, I could see it being a big deal because we've had crown jewel. We're going to have the Royal rumble. But again, WrestleMania has been in the United States.
- [83:30]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
- [83:31]
Charlotte Flair
So that's. I think, the. Wow. That's. That's how big the company has become. Or World Wrestling Entertainment.
- [83:39]
Shannon Sharpe
When you. When you. You've been around this sport for a while now and you see what Bianca Belair, what she's been able to accomplish, I mean, when. When you see what she's done, how does that make you feel? How proud of you. Of her?
- [83:51]
Charlotte Flair
Oh, when I saw her sitting at the press conference, I had no idea she had wrestled in Saudi nine times. So when she came up to the main roster, she really. I. When I thought about, I was like, oh, she's right. Like, she's been in almost every big show there. She's the EST for a reason, and she really is a role model in Sarah and outside of the ring. Yeah. I was like, just proud sister sitting there watching her.
- [84:19]
Stanford Red
That's dope.
- [84:20]
Charlotte Flair
Yeah.
- [84:20]
Shannon Sharpe
Do you like. You like. You like tag team? You like a partner or you like solo?
- [84:26]
Charlotte Flair
Oh, personally, I like solo.
- [84:29]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [84:30]
Charlotte Flair
I don't like sharing the spotlight, but I am in a tag team with the one person I don't mind sharing the spotlight, and that's Alexa Bliss.
- [84:38]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [84:38]
Charlotte Flair
And I'm having so much fun. She's great. She brings out definitely a different side of my character for tv. So it's great.
- [84:46]
Triple H
Yeah.
- [84:47]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah. So how much. How much longer? I mean, your dad. If your dad still had. If his body would hold up, your dad would still be wrestling.
- [84:55]
Charlotte Flair
Yeah.
- [84:55]
Shannon Sharpe
Is this something that you like? Okay, I got another three years. I got another five years. How much longer you want to go with this?
- [85:01]
Charlotte Flair
Charlotte, I don't know. I want kids one day. That's the thing.
- [85:06]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [85:06]
Charlotte Flair
I can do both, but it just depends on the time. Like, I don't know. Right now it's. What do I have? Coming up, NXT, Homecoming Tuesday, we've got Russell Palooza, Royal Rumble, WrestleMania. So, like, the shows keep going. It's just whatever happens between now and.
- [85:23]
Shannon Sharpe
Five years, if you were to have kids, are you coming back or you. Once you start that family. Family. You're done.
- [85:30]
Charlotte Flair
I think wrestling's in my blood.
- [85:31]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [85:32]
Charlotte Flair
I don't know any different. Like, I love it, but I do want to be a mom.
- [85:35]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
- [85:36]
Charlotte Flair
But I think Trish Stratus coming back and having all these one offs and she's 50.
- [85:40]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
- [85:40]
Charlotte Flair
Looks better than half the roster.
- [85:42]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
- [85:43]
Charlotte Flair
She's killing it. So I don't think that door will ever close. It's just. I do know I want to step away to have children.
- [85:49]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
- [85:49]
Charlotte Flair
And when that time is.
- [85:50]
Shannon Sharpe
So if that's. I just saw how.
- [85:53]
The Undertaker
Hold on.
- [85:53]
Triple H
I just.
- [85:53]
Shannon Sharpe
Just saw some wrestling couple. She's stepping away because she's having a baby. I forget who it was. Yeah. I forget who.
- [86:04]
Charlotte Flair
My girl.
- [86:05]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [86:05]
Charlotte Flair
Naomi.
- [86:06]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
- [86:09]
Charlotte Flair
Oh, yes. I'm so happy for her. So she had the championship.
- [86:13]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes. And then she had to relinquish.
- [86:15]
Charlotte Flair
She had to. Yes. But she'll definitely come back and we win the title again.
- [86:20]
Shannon Sharpe
Right, so.
- [86:21]
Charlotte Flair
Or take her title back that she never lost.
- [86:24]
Shannon Sharpe
Right. So, I mean, that means you. You'd have to be off at least a year, and you're going to need to probably, you know, I couldn't manage.
- [86:30]
Charlotte Flair
On the side with a little baby bump. Just like, waddle to the ring.
- [86:35]
Stanford Red
I like that. That's dope.
- [86:37]
Shannon Sharpe
But so you're you. So in other words, you're going to be a lifer. You're a wrestling lifer. You'll do. You'll do what Shawn Michaels does. You'll go down and nst. And then you'll teach the women to do what you do.
- [86:51]
Charlotte Flair
So here's the thing. Just, I do believe when you are good at something, it doesn't mean that you're going to be a good coach.
- [86:59]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [87:01]
Charlotte Flair
I'm not saying that I couldn't be a good coach because I do love it. But right now, what I like more is helping the girls inside the ring. My mind isn't there yet to be like, oh, I have to be on the side lights helping.
- [87:12]
Shannon Sharpe
Right, Right.
- [87:12]
Charlotte Flair
Like, I feel like right now it's more like, all right, you, you got to keep up with me, right? Let me see what, what you got. Like, that's the mentality. So I haven't like, switched off yet to where what that looks like. Like, Triple H has done an incredible job, like going from what he meant in the ring to what he means now, and I'm just not there yet. If that's something that I want to.
- [87:34]
Shannon Sharpe
Do, how difficult is it? Because, you know, like, you know, this is entertainment and you got a script and you got to follow the script and. And sometimes you might get injured. But hey, it calls for 30 minutes. We got to give it 30 minutes. Even if my back is hurting, my knee is hurting, my elbow, my shoulder.
- [87:48]
Charlotte Flair
That's life. Yeah, it's life. You just got to do it. Yeah. I don't. Yeah.
- [87:53]
Shannon Sharpe
Have you, have you ever been hurt early in a match and like, damn, I still got 30 minutes to kill.
- [88:00]
Charlotte Flair
So I've only been injured one time. But when I told for my ACL MCL meniscus, I finished the match. I didn't stop. But I think I injured myself more because my ego wouldn't let me stop. So I got injured, like in the first two minutes and I kept going and I finished the 10 minute match and I was still losing the match, but I still had to finish it. I was like, I'm not stopping this match. It was in front of the troops. So I was. It was a tribute to the troops show. And I was like, these people give their lives for us and I can't finish a silly wrestling match. So, like, I'm out there going, like, you just have to finish it. But if you go back and watch that match, like, I landed on my head. I landed on my. Like, it was an ouch. It was brutal to watch. Like, I needed to be stopped.
- [88:42]
Shannon Sharpe
Right. Did you know when you injured yourself, did you know you were injured by.
- [88:47]
Charlotte Flair
The end of it? I was like, I can't walk. Like, I could not walk.
- [88:49]
Shawn Michaels
I couldn't move.
- [88:50]
Stanford Red
So you understood how severe it was.
- [88:51]
Charlotte Flair
I did. Well, when I, like the first ding, I was like, oh, that don't feel right.
- [88:55]
Stanford Red
Right.
- [88:55]
Charlotte Flair
And then when I fell off the top rope on my neck, I was like, oh, my God, did I break my neck? And then like 20 seconds later, I can move. Kept going. And then I did another signature move that I had and it like, I don't know, I started the move and the next thing you know, I was like flat on my face. But all the other things that I had to finish the match, I could use on one leg. But I was like, oh, this is.
- [89:18]
Shannon Sharpe
This is not ain't right.
- [89:20]
Charlotte Flair
Something not right. Cuz I've never like.
- [89:23]
Shannon Sharpe
You've never been injured before?
- [89:24]
Charlotte Flair
Never been injured. Like broken noses, teeth, knocked out, things like that. Exterior things, but not like interior.
- [89:31]
Shannon Sharpe
Damn. Charlotte, you mean to tell me you was like at the end of a match, you was like a jack at lantern.
- [89:35]
Charlotte Flair
I was in Germany, yes. And Carmela knocked my teeth out. And like that's, I'm like walking back. Actually the referee, Charles actually handed me part two with the teeth. I was like, put them away.
- [89:50]
Shannon Sharpe
But to see the excitement on your face, even though through the, the torn knee and the, the knocked out teeth, you can see the passion that you have for what you do. And that's why you're so good at what you do. Because you don't look at this as an occupation, you don't look at this as a job. You enjoy doing what you do. So you don't see this as work.
- [90:10]
Charlotte Flair
You see this as I wake up every day grateful. Yeah. Like, you know how some people are like, oh, I gotta go to work today. I'm like, oh, I don't work.
- [90:16]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
- [90:17]
Charlotte Flair
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