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Shannon Sharpe
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh, let me ask you a question. What's your highest ranking Omad? What's the highest you've been ranked?
Chad Johnson
The highest I've been ranked. I think, if I'm not mistaken, a 98 overall. I think a night. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would listen. I was that boy back in the day, man, I was. That was nice.
Shannon Sharpe
I think.
Chad Johnson
You know what? For me and I'm uncle. I'm gonna be. I'm really be honest with you. I don't think people understand really how good I was unless you are really a football person. Because the antics and the fun and entertainment that I had, it takes away from all the hard work I actually put in to be able to pull some. I did off and I'm just being honest. And then that Goes for people even at the, even, even the, the, the, the most highest analysts or those that have been watching the game for years. They allow the antics and entertainment to get away from how, actually, how good.
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, that happens because they're like, what?
Chad Johnson
And I like it, but I like it like that. I enjoyed that. I, I, I, I enjoyed it. And that's what I wanted to be remembered for. So.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, that's what happens. I mean, they, he's loud, he's braggadocious and all that, but, and so now when the NFL has started this National Tight Ends Day and the NFL started posting clips and people like, hold on. Okay, now I see why UNC was like that. For real. But here's the thing though. Oo see, you was a 98. I was one of the few guys that's ever been a hundo. Yeah, but how did a 99. Yeah, for show I've been him. He was a Hyundai. Run tell that. Wait a minute. 99, a hundred. Hey, I need me, I need me some shoes that said a honey.
Chad Johnson
Cause they ain't been the gold shoes.
Shannon Sharpe
No, a hundred got to be platinum. Gold is for 99. I need platinum shoes.
Chad Johnson
I got, I gotta, I gotta check all the time. I gotta check. I gotta, I gotta check the vote. I ain't never heard of no.
Shannon Sharpe
Because normally, because normally during the game I wore red shoes. Cause I clown fools. That what I did. For real, the old show. Let me tell you what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna give it to you the first half because you gonna be jealous that I didn't give you any. So I'm gonna give it to you the second half. But all y' all gonna get it. All y' all about to get all this here. So don't worry about it. Don't worry about. Don't tell him to shut up and stop talking to me because I'm about to start talking to you. I'm about to hit you up too. Oh yeah? How'd you get?
Chad Johnson
I got, I got. I gotta check that.
Shannon Sharpe
I know you didn't. And after that, nobody else could ever get a Hyundai. They never. After 99. They cut it out. After 99, they cut it out. No, no more hundies. So you was the last honey after me. There'll be no more.
Chad Johnson
Okay, I like that.
Shannon Sharpe
It's a 99 rated. It's all, it's up there right now. They're looking at it. When they got the 99 tight end like Gronk was 99 for a couple of years. Kelsey's been 99 for a couple of years. But the first guy up there, he better stop playing with me. I'm too big of a cat to be played like a kitten.
Chad Johnson
Somebody got to send that to my phone, man. Somebody got. Hold on, hold on.
Shannon Sharpe
That's like. That's like. Hold on. That's like being in the grocery store and starving. How the hell you own the grocery store and starve. You work at ea. How the hell you talk about these.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, I work at Yay. But you and you talk about 99. 99. I was still. I was still in high school, so I. I don't really. I gotta go back.
Shannon Sharpe
That's how long I've been kicking. Folks. When you was in junior high, we're cooking them. I used to go, I keep telling you, people used to see me on the field with a. With a pain, with a pot. They say, man, what you got? That part. I said, I'm going to cook you fools. That's why I got this pot out here on the field. I'm cooking crabs today. Yes, it's a low country boil. I got crab, I got a sausage. I got corn on the car, potatoes. All you bums getting it sound like, yeah, I'm giving it to them. So pull up a table. Cause I'm about to make a mess. All of you.
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Shannon Sharpe
All.
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Season 2 of Good Game with Sarah Spain is underway. We just welcomed one of my favorite people and an incomparable soccer icon, Megan Rapinoe to the show and we had a blast. We talked about her recent 40th birthday celebrations, Co hosting a podcast with her fiance Sue, Bird watching former teammates retire and more. Never a dull moment with Pino. Take a listen. What do you miss the most about being a pro athlete? The final. The final. And the locker room. I really, really like you. Just you can't replicate. You can't get back. Showing up to locker room every morning just to talk. We've got more incredible guests like the legendary Candace Parker and college superstar Az Foot. I mean seriously, y', all, the guest list is absolutely stacked for season two. And you know we're always going to keep you up to speed on all the news and happenings around the women's sports world as well. So make sure you listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports Ultra.
Shannon Sharpe
Let's jump right into it. Before we get into some topics, tell us about your wide eye camp. Cause there's like the D lineman got a camp. The tight ends have what they call tight endu. And I think you started what you call wide receiver Wide receiver workshop, wide out workout camp last week. The clip of you being emotional and grateful to the guys that showed up. In that case. In that case, Chat hasn't seen it yet. We're going to play this clip for you. Take a look at it.
Chad Johnson
Y' all know how much I love the game. You know how much I love y', all, man. Throughout the years, you've. I've tweeted about every last one of y', all, so you already know how I feel about you. And they brought the idea to me. I talked to Court, I talked to some of y' all boys yesterday, and I was scared. I was scared to. To make that call because. Yes, sir. Let it out, man. That's what it's about, right? You deserve it, bro. That's why we gotta play together. You feel me? Hey, it's a lot of pride. You go in a receiver position. Honestly, I thought. Come together. I thought some of the big boys and just any y'. All. Y' all busy? I'm busy. You know how. You know how that be. So for you to show up, mean the world to me. Like, I don't cry normally, and I really ain't really ashamed to do it in front of y'. All. I swear to God. I appreciate you. Swear to God. And I look forward to what we do tomorrow. We gonna keep talking, talk about the game of football. I don't want to run you to death, but more want to get into what you need to work on to improve, you know, where you can get back to work and feel good about something new that you got and you stole from somebody else. Somebody else game, you know, other than that. Let y' all get out of this Rain, man. Like. Like. I seriously salute y', all, man. Hey, hey. That. That was dope. That was a good feeling. A good feeling. A lot of people are probably watching with. With. With not great understanding about the love I have for the game. Not just the game in general, but. But the craft when it comes to that artwork, when it comes to playing a position of receiver and how much I embedded and love that artistry and for those fellas to show up on, for the big boys to actually show up. For me, it meant a lot. It meant a lot for one. For me to be so far removed from the game and to want to help those that are still playing, you know, and finding tweaks and things that they can improve on and add to their game. There's nothing that we have as a collective group, as receivers, we can all get together under one Umbrella and talk about the game of football, talk about route running and anything that comes along with that. Ways to manipulate defenses, ways to give illusions that you run at full speed than when you really. I mean, when you're really not just little tricks in the trade of the craft in itself. And Unc. But them boys showed up. They showed up. Cause I look at them as a fan. I don't look at them as ocho that's already played. I look at them in awe, like I'm looking up to them. And they tried to get me to see fool, you tripping. We look up to you because we still studying your stuff from way back then. But I don't view myself like that or in that light, which is why the emotion and the tears came from, like, I can't believe it. They actually show. They actually showed up.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
T. Higgins, Jamal, Chase, Cora, son, Jerry. We talk about people that are already established in the league that a got they big paydays. They ain't got. They. They don't have to come out here. They don't have to. But it's a testament. Forget them coming for me. A testament where they are with their game and wanting to improve and get better at their craft and what they do.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, you want to get better. I mean, if they have a. I guarantee you, if they have a convention and they invite the top 100 tech guys, I guarantee they're gonna show up. Because iron sharpens iron, you know, we got to get out of this illusion where. I don't want to give away no secrets. I don't want to give away no secrets. And I'm trying to do this. I keep this to myself. What good is all this knowledge if you hoard it? Somebody had to you. I don't care what any receiver tells you. He did not learn or forget the position. He did not learn everything on his own. He got it from somewhere, Right? So instead of you sharing it, you want to hoard it. Now, what if somebody would have done that to you? What if somebody would have hoarded that information and teach you how to be and how to dip?
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, or somebody teach you how to snatch pool. So now you get the information. But, see, that's how we are. See, a lot of times, Ocho, we'll get up now. We'll use a ladder to get up, and once we get up, we'll pull the ladder up to make sure nobody else get up there with us.
Chad Johnson
Yeah. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
Shannon Sharpe
How many times have we seen that? We see it a lot I ain't gonna get political with you. But we see a lot of that. A lot of people came through immigration, now they got over here. Kick that ladder down, dog. You ain't getting up here. I'm here now, so damn you. And a lot of times athletes have that same mentality. Somebody in partake and maybe it wasn't publicly, maybe it was a private setting. Now someone in part gave you wisdom and knowledge and understanding. You want to pretend like you got that all on your own.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
What I like most, don't you? Because a lot of times these, these guys forget that there was somebody before them. And it seems like if it didn't happen in the Internet age, it didn't happen.
Chad Johnson
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh man, I don't know about that guy. Well, that guy got a hundred and something, 100 and something touchdown. That guy have 15, 16, 17,000 yards. Oh, you thought they just started playing wide receiver like 30 years ago, right? I like sometimes, sometimes, not all. There's no such thing as all or every. Guys forget not taking women out of this. You can talk about the wnba, we'll talk about that a later date in time. I'm just talking about men in professional sports. It's almost like we want to poo poo. The one thing that I've never done is I never forgot the guys that laid the foundation. From the Mackie's to the Dickers to the Aussies to the, the Winslow, the Seconds to the Jackie Smith, guys like that Raymond Chesters. I know, I know the history of that position. I know the history of the tight end position and of the NFL. So therefore I'm greatly, greatly appreciative. But that was great, that was really great to see. I'm glad you got an opportunity to that. Hopefully, hopefully you can get sponsors like we see at tight endu. Yeah. And it gets bigger and bigger and better and better year after year. So that, that kudos to you.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, most definitely.
Shannon Sharpe
We had taken time out of your busy schedule.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
And say, you know what guys, I want to bring you guys together and in partake some of the wisdom that I've been given over the course of the years. And maybe, maybe only one to two people got something out of what you said or what someone else said.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
But that was success because that was information they wouldn't have gotten had they not been there.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, it was dope. And my favorite part of the two days that we had together was sitting there talking obviously to Jerry. I'm talking all Elijah Moore, KJ Osborne, all them boys but the great. The greatest conversation that I really enjoyed was me, Uno, obviously, Jamar, Jamar, Jamar Chase, Jerry Judy and Court and Cortland Sutton. And we had a 30 minute discussion. I'm talking about. I'm talking about a good 30 on ways to beat Pat certain junior. Hey, Unc, we.
Shannon Sharpe
He sold he.
Chad Johnson
So I swear for God, the first thing they all say, Judy, he's so long. He's so patient. Chase say anything short. You're not. You're not. You're not gonna be able to run it. And the conversation about Pat is a testament to him, to how great he is and how good he is. And of course, I said what I could. We went back and forth. It was a great dialogue on that. Then they talked about the other DBs that are very, very difficult. Not as long, but technically sound and savvy. They talked about Denzel Award on how difficult. Chase talks about how difficult it is to go. Yeah, when you play him, you got to be on your P's and Q's. They talked about Stingley. When you play Stingley, you got to be on your P's and Q's. Obviously, other great. There are other great defensive backs in the NFL, but the way those dudes praise past our Tang, Stingley and Denzel Ward, man, it was. It was wonderful, wonderful thing to help.
Shannon Sharpe
Pat, who is his dad. So his dad was a Pro Bowler.
Chad Johnson
Yes, sir.
Shannon Sharpe
So he had great. So the first thing I noticed about past 13 when he got to Alabama, I say this for a freshman, this dude is technically sound like he should be in the league already. You look at him and there's no wasted motion. There's. There ain't nothing. There ain't no. You know, he try, hey, boom. If you release inside, boom. Stab, bam, Stabbing. Every time I'm like, damn, He. He technically sound.
Chad Johnson
Damn.
Shannon Sharpe
Ain't no wasted motion. I mean, he get. He bam. And when. Hey, when that. When that back foot plant he driving.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, every time.
Shannon Sharpe
But as he talked about, we had him on oho and he won the defensive player of the year. And we talked to him. He said, look, study. I'm looking at formations, I'm looking at splits. I'm looking at down and distance. I'm looking at area of the field. I'm also looking at, okay, the personnel, all that. That's why you need. That's why you need to be smart as a football player, because you got to be able to process that in an instant instantly.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
He who hesitate in sports is beat.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, it's a Game of inches.
Shannon Sharpe
And in the NFL, unless it's a blown coverage.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
You throw people open. And these guys in this league are good enough to throw a receiver open.
Chad Johnson
Open. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
So it ain't. You can't waste motion because the really good receivers are not going to waste motion. Hey, all that dropping your arms. Hey, you telling the db, I'm about to stop. I'm about to break.
Chad Johnson
You telling the ball going the other.
Shannon Sharpe
Way, and you might. You might as well tell, hey, dude, I'm about to run this out. Break on it.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Because that's what's going to happen. So it was. It was great to see you in that environment, Ocho. I know you love. You love everything about coaching except coaching itself, because you damn sure ain't gonna put those. You want to put that kind of hours in and be on that's what time said I. No, no, no. I want you to come out there and talk to him during the summer. You. You. You ain't. You ain't gonna be no coach.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, but listen, I. I can coach in a structured environment, but when it comes to talking the game of actually route running, getting open, understanding what's across from you and how to beat it. Now that I can do. Now that I can.
Shannon Sharpe
But you know what I noticed, Ocho? Huh? What about the. What about the run blocking? I ain't see you do none of that.
Chad Johnson
Oh, hey, I'm glad you said that. I'm glad you said that. Now, if you look. If you. If you look at mustache, statistically, this is one of the things that really aren't. Aren't shown. Statistically, I'm the greatest run blocker in the history of the NFL.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, Lord, that is not true.
Chad Johnson
I'm just telling you. I'm just telling you. Now, when you think about blocking, everyone thinks about a physical specimen. When it comes to playing receiver, Sometimes the indicator is just being who you are in general.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
And all I got to do, sometimes I ain't got to touch nobody. I just run off and I take three people with me.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, I think the thing is, for the. You look at the west coast. You look at west coast offenses, those guys got a block or you're not getting the ball. You look at a guy like a Hines Ward who made his name in the league before he was able to catch, ended up catching a thousand passes. He was known as a blocker. He was physical. I mean, Hines, he took pride. He's like, well, y' all try to tear my head off when I got the ball in My arms.
Chad Johnson
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
Now I get an opportunity to peel your cap, right? I'm peeling it all the way back to the white.
Chad Johnson
Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. Now, you said Hines Wolver physical. Now, that's not to take nothing away from me. Now, I was a very physical blocker, too.
Shannon Sharpe
Now, that is your game.
Chad Johnson
It's not my game, but it was part. I had it in my repertoire when.
Shannon Sharpe
I. Yeah, you, you could be. Yeah, yeah. It's a, It's a, It's a tool that you didn't use. So you know how people got a toolbox and they got all the tools in there, and they only use the flathead or the Phillips head screwdriver. They use the vice grips, they use the monkey ridge, and they use the adjustable ridge. That's it. But they got a hundred apparatuses in there. But at the end of the day, it's all about getting the job done.
Chad Johnson
Yes, sir.
Shannon Sharpe
Whether you, Whether you got, if you got force, you, you push that corner and then come down on. Because they don't let you crack no more. Oo. It's hard. The harder, the harder the block because, you know, you used to be able to push that, push the corner and then see that safety creeping down there.
Chad Johnson
And down and crack them.
Shannon Sharpe
Now they blind side. Like what they call it. Blind side block defense, man.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Head on the swivel, bro.
Chad Johnson
All you got to do, you can stand in the way, fold your arms.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, you got to move because the power get you. Yeah.
Chad Johnson
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
The pilot. You got to worry about that pile. So you got to keep your feet moving because, you know, hey, we all have been rolled up on.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
And it ain't no damn fun. Ocho foot, pro football addict. Name the top 10 trash talkers in NFL history. This leak, this list. This list is bull jive because yours truly isn't on it. Number one, Chad Ochocinko. Number two, Smitty Steve Smith senior. Three, Richard Sherman. Number four, me. Number five, Dion. Number six, Philip Rivers. Number seven to number eight, Suggs. Number nine, Ray Lewis. Number ten, Cortland Sutton. I feel I should be number one.
Chad Johnson
But oh, oh, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. I, I, I know you feel you should be number one.
Shannon Sharpe
I should.
Chad Johnson
Hey, I know you feel you should be number one. But you have to understand. You have to understand the art of trash talking. It's me. It represents me. If the art of trash talking was in the dictionary, there would be a picture of me. You were great at Trash talking. You were great at it. You were. Let me, let me. Stay with me now. You were great at it. But you have to understand, I took it to levels never seen or done before.
Freddie Prinze Jr.
It's the biggest party of the summer. WWE SummerSlam is here and wrestling with Freddie is all over it. We're talking wild matches, big surprises and our boldest predictions yet. From celebrity showdowns to the chaos inside a steel cage, we're breaking down every match and calling who we think walks out on top. This card is loaded. From Cody Rhodes, John Cena, Rhea, Ripley and Tiffy, just to name a few. This lineup is ready to tear down the house. We'll give you our unfiltered takes, honest debates and you already know, a ton of laughs along the way. We're covering the upsets, the wild returns and the championship moments. Nobody expects. We'll get into the matches that steal the show, the storylines that explode and and those, oh my God, did that just happen moments that make SummerSlam legendary. Don't miss it. Listen to Wrestling with Freddy as part of the My K Podcast network. Find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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I'm Jake Hofer and this is back 40, a limited series show on Wire to Hunt, part of Meat Eaters Podcast Network. Each episode I'll be asking eight whitetail hunting pros a focused, thought provoking question about hunting in land management. How do I hunt the best part of the farm with less than ideal access?
Shannon Sharpe
Should you? That's what the real question is. Stand without good access is not a good stand.
Jake Hofer
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We need veteran players and we need young players. Like you're building a team from scratch and so the succession plan of long term success needs to be defined. We need to embrace this community.
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When I was 13, my uncle took me to a qualifier and we watched Paraguay against Chile pouring rain. Just watching the fans jumping up and down, I think that was definitely a watershed moment for me. Not only was that going to be my game, but it was going to be my life.
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Podcast Host
Get fired up, y'.
Chad Johnson
All.
Podcast Host
Season 2 of Good Game with Sarah Spain is underway. We just welcomed one of my favorite people and an incomparable soccer icon, Megan Rapinoe to the show, and we had a blast. We talked about her recent 40th birthday celebrations, Co hosting a podcast with her fiance, Sue, Bird watching former teammates retire and more. Never a dull moment with Pino. Take a listen. What do you miss the most about being a pro athlete? The final. The final. And the locker room. I really, really like you. Just, you can't replicate. You can't get back. Showing up to the locker room every morning just to talk. We've got more incredible guests like the legendary Candace Parker and college superstar AZ Fudd. I mean, seriously, y', all, the guest list is absolutely stacked for season two. And you know, we're always going to keep you up to speed on all the news and happenings around the women's sports world as well. So make sure you listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.
Chad Johnson
Okay. There's a certain entertainment value to the trash talk that I provided. I was talking trash, right? Let me. Stay with me real quick. Just real quick. On a losing team. And I could feel a stadium with my trash talk alone. So the seats, we sold out because they come to see what I'm going to do based off what I said. You see what I'm saying? You see what I'm saying?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I hear you.
Chad Johnson
Yeah. Come on. Come on now. Stay with me now it's different. So when I play away, they come in to see what he's going to do next based off what he said. Now, the pressure was on me to be able to make sure I gave people their money's worth after I did all the talking. That's pressure in itself. So I'm not taking nothing away from. You were great at what you did, but it just. I just had a different aspect and different entertainment value to my trash.
Shannon Sharpe
What clip do they show all the time? Calling me, calling the National Guard.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, Joe, you do realize I had a coach, a coach resign and a player got suspended cause I was trash talking, Right?
Chad Johnson
I got you. I got you. I got you. But you gotta understand, listen, I lost money behind my entertainment and trash talking. I send gifts to my opponents in secondaries to elevate the level of trash talk. The bravado in which I brought to the game is a little different now. You did. You. You. Hey, listen, you was phenomenal. You have to remember, I did it in a losing effort in a losing atmosphere. Huh? Just to make it fun for those watching.
Shannon Sharpe
I need to be mic'd up more without getting into it. Cause, you know, Ocho, you realize, like, you don't talk as much when you mic'd up before. The simple fact is people gonna think, oh, he don't do that much talking. He just doing this. Cause he mic'd up.
Chad Johnson
See, the difference is, right? Notice I never wore a mouthpiece.
Shannon Sharpe
I just know what I'm about.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, I didn't wear a mouthpiece because I need to be able to converse with you throughout the entirety of the game.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Yeah.
Chad Johnson
And the problem is, this is the thing. I'm not talking. I think you talk. Steve Smith talked trash to get the person angry.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
Richard Sherman talked trash to get the person angry. Cam Newton. I saw his little clip earlier about him being the best trash talker and said he gets people upset. I'm not trying to get you upset. I don't want you mad. I want you happy. I just need to see if you can engage with me and converse with me in the middle of a game. I got you mentally right. You already beat.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't care what. I don't care what you get. You can get mad. You get happy at the end of the day. Right, bro?
Chad Johnson
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
Titus.
Chad Johnson
Tidy. What's up? What? Titus, where you been at? What?
Shannon Sharpe
What they do, Twin, you supposed to be holding it down. So who didn't show up for work? That's what I need to know. Who did show up for work, huh?
Chad Johnson
Oh, Tidy. Look at my dog, man. My dog chilling, man.
Shannon Sharpe
Where your brother? Say I got another brother here.
Chad Johnson
Well, you got another one.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Not. Not his side. Oh, no. They eat too much.
Chad Johnson
Ah, but where he at, man, you ain't. You ain't never. You ain't even let me see him.
Shannon Sharpe
Hold on. Thanos.
Chad Johnson
Wait, you named him Thanos?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
Well, God damn, he that big.
Shannon Sharpe
Where do you see him? Cheryl, bring Thanos.
Chad Johnson
Oh, boy, I know that. Hey, I know that joker big. How much you weigh? About 160. What the hell?
Shannon Sharpe
That teddy with four pounds?
Chad Johnson
That ain't.
Shannon Sharpe
Hello, everybody. My name is Thanos.
Chad Johnson
Well, he ain't gonna grow no more.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, he maxed out, Ocho. That's it.
Chad Johnson
What you got to give. You got to give him a better name than that, like Peewee.
Shannon Sharpe
Nah, you don't want to be no PC. I'm Big. He said, I run stuff around here. You say tired to get a bone. I take it I'm like that.
Chad Johnson
What happened to Teddy Bear?
Shannon Sharpe
Teddy Bear on the couch.
Chad Johnson
How did they get along?
Shannon Sharpe
Man, he be. He be. He'd be harassing Teddy Bear like something crazy. I had the other one. I had baby. Teddy Bear was a nuisance. Was a menace.
Chad Johnson
Right?
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, the other one couldn't get no peace. Now all he doing is repaying the favor.
Chad Johnson
Okay, okay, I got it. I got it. I got. I like that. I like that. But how. Yeah, how much? I don't mean. I don't mean to be in your pockets. What's that? What, though?
Shannon Sharpe
No, focus, huh?
Chad Johnson
I ain't. I don't mean to be in your pocket. I'm just curious how much that was.
Shannon Sharpe
There, you know, you look little something. You know, I. I can't tell you where I got it from because, you know, it'd have been a tariff on it.
Chad Johnson
Okay, okay, okay, okay. I understand. I. I know. I noticed you ain't really want to answer that question. I'm still trying to. I just want to know the numbers on it. That's. It.
Shannon Sharpe
Looks up. You know, look. You know, look, treat myself. I ain't bought myself nothing, you know?
Chad Johnson
Okay, Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
I still got the same. The same range BMW. So, you know, I said, you know what? Let me get myself something. I ain't bought a watch. I ain't brought no clothing. And so, you know.
Chad Johnson
Right, right.
Shannon Sharpe
That was. That was my. That was my birthday gift that I got.
Chad Johnson
Okay, well. But listen, listen, listen, listen. I told you. I told you I got a dude out of Liberty City, right? Yeah, I got a dude in Liberty City. Gets you everything exotic from animals to dogs to pets to. I could have got you that. I could have got you that for 200. No, I'm just saying. What's that? A teacup, right? Teacup. Pom pom.
Shannon Sharpe
No, he regular size. He's not gonna. I mean, he's not gonna get much bigger than that, Right? Teacups. I mean, teacups, they'd be like. Like £3. Have a lot of health issues.
Chad Johnson
He said he was four pounds, though.
Shannon Sharpe
He. Four pounds. He'll probably. He'll probably top out at about six.
Chad Johnson
Okay. Okay. That's cool, because I got my dog. My dog in Liberty City, his name Lonzo.
Shannon Sharpe
You need to get you a puppy. You need to get you something to keep you grounded.
Chad Johnson
I can't do that. I can't. All my furniture white here. I don't want no Dogs running around here. I ain't got no time for that. Everything. Everything in here is white.
Shannon Sharpe
You know, you can. You know you can train an animal, right?
Chad Johnson
Yeah. I ain't got that kind of time. I ain't got that kind of time, baby.
Shannon Sharpe
All right, so the top two top ten trash talkers. Ocho is number one. Smitty, number two. Sherm, three. Myself is four. Time is five. Philip Rivers, loud. But think about it. A quarterback have made the list.
Chad Johnson
Hey, he be. Hey, he don't curse, but he. He funny though.
Shannon Sharpe
He be talking dog it. Hey, with that one, when he threw that touchdown against Jacksonville and he screamed at the whole guy's ear. Hey, hey, hey, ref, tell about the stream. Okay? I will scream in your ear. No, you won't. To Suggs Sugar and Courtland Finnegan.
Chad Johnson
Oh, that's.
Shannon Sharpe
That's a nice little list. It's a nice list.
Chad Johnson
It is. It is. I mean, sure. I'm sure some people will look at the list. They would disagree with the numerical order.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, I got one. John Randall. You got to have Johnny on here.
Chad Johnson
That's. That's a good.
Shannon Sharpe
Gotta have Johnny on here.
Chad Johnson
Johnny.
Shannon Sharpe
Johnny. We came out. We came out the same. The same draft in 1990. Johnny was a. People don't know this, but Johnny was a free agent. Johnny got drafted as a 230 pound defense. 230. He was 230 as a defensive lineman.
Chad Johnson
Oh, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
And turned himself into the. What, one of the great dts that had a relentless motor?
Chad Johnson
Yes, sir. Yeah. Dt even nice. JJ was nice, bro.
Shannon Sharpe
Apparently Cam called us out to think he's a better trash talker. Let's listen to what Cam had to say.
Chad Johnson
But when it comes to putting these nouns and verbs. You know what I'm saying?
Shannon Sharpe
Putting it together.
Chad Johnson
You're the best. It comes down to just being witty.
Shannon Sharpe
You dig what I'm saying? Is that Atlanta in you.
Chad Johnson
Yeah. I'm trying to tell you, Peggy, sometimes you gotta point your toes east and west to let everybody know who's the actual best. And I. No disrespect to Uncle Shay and Chad Chadwick Johnson, huh? But they would have hated me because I'mma get personal. You feel what I'm saying? You gonna do some research?
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah.
Chad Johnson
We got to do that.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't fight fair.
Chad Johnson
Yeah. I don't talk fair. But it's some truth behind everything that I say.
Shannon Sharpe
And that's where I'm willing to go, man. I say something.
Chad Johnson
Oh, Cho. To make your kids hate me. You see? You see that See, he's talking trash, trying to get under someone's skin. That's not the type of trash talk I did. I talked trash in an entertainment value way for fun, to have fun. To let you know we going to compete. See, that's just talking. I went. I took it the extra mile. Do people not realize the week before a game, I FedExed the secondaries gifts as a small way to taunt in a certain way. Nothing malicious, but to have fun.
Shannon Sharpe
That was a token of your appreciation.
Chad Johnson
Exactly. To let you know I'm thinking of you, d'. Angelo. Oh, I sent them boys in Atlanta send them gifts. You know, obviously, we know what I did for the Steelers. I had a. I had a. I had a sponsorship with degree deodorant. I sent the Raven Secondary. I sent in degree degree degree deodorant, you know, as a gift. Cause y' all stink. Or you're gonna be stinking when I'm done with you. Yeah, like, that's all. That's all fun and love and, you know, before gay. So that's. It's his type of trash talking. What I'm doing is completely two different side. Sides of the spectrum. But I respect what he did. But he's nothing. Not even close. We're not in the same stratosphere when it comes to talking trash.
Shannon Sharpe
Because for me, like I said, I went to an hbcu.
Chad Johnson
Come on. That's.
Shannon Sharpe
If you go to an hbcu. I don't know who's out there listening that has been to an hbcu, but if you can't, Joan, you can't.
Chad Johnson
You ain't gonna survive.
Shannon Sharpe
You can't survive.
Chad Johnson
You ain't gonna survive.
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, me, I'm. Hey, y'. All. Y'.
Chad Johnson
All.
Shannon Sharpe
Y' all heard me going back and forth. I'm talking about. We just. This ain't no. You know. Hey. I don't know who I'm gonna talk trash to in the game. It all depends on who starts talking trash back or who started first, right? I'm gonna get it started. You know, I'm gonna say something and I'm gonna see. I'm gonna keep going until I. Hey, I'm gonna turn the door handle to see what's. Which one's open, because a lot of them be locked. Don't. Yo, they ain't gonna say nothing to you. But I will keep a. Everybody don't lock their doors at night.
Chad Johnson
Right?
Shannon Sharpe
You know what I'm saying? If somebody run down on you, because, you know, it used to be in the 70s and early the 70s and 80s, you can sleep with your door open, let alone locked. Yeah, but now people get crazy after dark. You got to keep your hand on your thing. So with that being said, everybody locking the doors, but not everybody. Somebody go forget.
Chad Johnson
Oh yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Because they thought somebody else locked the door. Oh, that's when I turned the handling and be going on in. Yeah, but Cam, look, I know you good. I know you good at putting things together. You know, adverbs and. And predicates and pronouns and adjectives. Oh, no, but when it comes. When it comes. When it comes to lip sparring. Yeah, I'm talking about what? Hey, just. Hey, just go.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, talk to him, Monk. Hey, and Cam, that's another thing. You worried about who's the better trash talker. Yeah, I need to be practicing Madden. That's what Nick, you're doing. You need to be practicing Madden. Cause I'm still waiting on that smoke. All that talking you're doing. As a matter of fact, I got the new Madden already. I got Madden 26.
Shannon Sharpe
So you practice, you practice by the time. So when he get it, you gonna be proficient at it.
Chad Johnson
Matter of fact, the funny thing about it is I am the best gamer. I'm the best Madden player in the world. I have an advantage over everyone else because I'm a part of the production of the game in itself. So the fact that people think they can beat me, it's almost laughable. Like I told you, Cam. Cam and DEZ Bryant, I love them fellas. They play for recreation. I play video games as a way of life. It's how I pay my bills. That's why I don't understand when they come at me, talking about beating me in a video game. What you talking about?
Shannon Sharpe
My life's getting cut off if I'm playing for bills.
Chad Johnson
You think. You think I'm a miss my light bill and my mortgage because you think you gonna beat me in Mac, man?
Shannon Sharpe
Well, my light's getting cut off. I ain't got. You know, I ain't got no. Got no central heating and cooling. Because if I got to play video games to pay bills jumping off. No, I mean, the only thing I probably could. I probably can't even play Ocho. I probably. I mean, I think I played like I used to play Ms. Pac man, play Josh or something like that. But I was. I mean, we have no video. I mean, we could. We could go to the arcade. We get a couple of quarters or we go. My sister would go wash clothes and they would have Some video games, a pool table, something like that. But I was. Nah, nah shooting pool now.
Chad Johnson
Oh, you know how to shoot?
Shannon Sharpe
I beat Efren Reyes. Beat Minnesota fast. They call me Slim Willie Moscone, Steve Miserack.
Chad Johnson
Hey, I don't know about that. But you got.
Shannon Sharpe
Vivian, you got to show me best in the house. You got to show me best in the house, Ocho.
Chad Johnson
You got to show me. Because pool is what I do. Huh? Pool is what I do. They. Listen, unc. You know what they used to call me? I used to play at the pool hall right on 54th street, right off. Right off of 10 12th Avenue. But they used to call me Sugar Cane. My pool stick. My pool stick looked like Sugar Cane. It was green.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, you green if you think you could beat me. But you can't be Slim. You can't be Georgia Slim.
Chad Johnson
Don't do it to yourself, please.
Shannon Sharpe
You can't be Georgia Slim. Who you think I beat, Fats? I beat Minnesota Fats.
Chad Johnson
Come on now. Ask about me out here in the city, man. When it come to. Hey, listen. When it comes to the pool. Pool table. When it comes to ping pong, I beat the. That's what I do. When it come to handball, I beat.
Shannon Sharpe
The issue out of you in table tennis.
Chad Johnson
What? But listen. What? But I told you. They called me Sugar Cane. I had. I had. I had a green pool stick. They called me.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm mess around and catch you one day. I'm going to catch you one day somewhere. And they're gonna have a pool table in there. They have a table. They'll have a table tennis thing in there.
Chad Johnson
Oh, wait, wait, wait. You ain't got to catch me nowhere. I come where you at, and we can go to a pool hole. Cause we got plenty of them. I bet you got your own stick. My stick right here.
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho, I beat you with a broomstick. I don't even know damn pool cue to beat you.
Chad Johnson
See, you ain't. You ain't no. You ain't no real. You ain't no real pool player. Hey, hey. I'm a shark, man. They call me when they. They call me when somebody at the pool hall that think they good.
Shannon Sharpe
I let you win a couple of games to let you back the money. Then I come in there.
Chad Johnson
Nah, come on, man. Tighten up Ocho.
Shannon Sharpe
While we're away, there's some people that have some words for you.
Chad Johnson
For me?
Shannon Sharpe
Chris Carter has some words for Ocho. Last week, he said there were points. Oh, yep, he said there were points in Chad's career that you had to go out there and tell him what to do because he couldn't get open to save his life. He couldn't get open against average guys. Chad Johnson scored double digit touchdowns one time in his 11 years. I think I scored double digit touchdowns six times. Scoring the football is the number one play as a receiver. No, I was not a burner. I ran four six, four, six, five. But can do it every single day. Can do it for four quarters and the consistent at it. Ocho.
Chad Johnson
You know what that get. Child, please, what do we.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know. I don't. I'm just trying before I have a.
Chad Johnson
Question, before you even go. What the hell does that matter? What does it matter? Okay. You scored double duty touchdowns. Okay, cool. You want a cookie?
Shannon Sharpe
Right?
Chad Johnson
Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Who do you. What brought this on? Have you had a conversation with. Have you had. You have you had a conversation with Cece?
Chad Johnson
No, I don't ain't. No, I don't need to. I have a question. So. Right. I heard also he said, well, he only had double digit touchdowns one season. So he's not a Hall of Famer. Well, does that mean Julio Jones is not a Hall of Famer either? Because Julio Jones only had double digit touchdowns one season. You had. You had dumb. You had dumb. That sounds. Yeah, well, sometimes I listen to things and, and, and everyone's situation is different, you know. Everyone's situation different. Yeah, I mean so stuff like that, I pay it no mind because everything is predicated off numbers and based on what they did, based on other people's situations were different. You know, obviously where I was. I did the best I could with the cards I was dealt and I did one hell of a goddamn job. I don't care about what you did. I don't care about your numbers. It don't make. It don't make me Nondo. Why is my name even being brought up?
Shannon Sharpe
That's what I was. That's what I'm trying to figure out. I don't know why it was brought up. I don't. Because like I said, Ocho me, I don't really listen to anybody else's podcast. I got enough thing to try to, you know, to try to make our podcast better than what it is. And I got Club Shay Shay. So I'm trying to get guests and I'm going with the book. It's like, okay, who do you think we should get? Blah, blah, blah. So I don't really have time to pay attention. But it just kept popping up. Not only On. On. It kept popping up on Twitter and then I saw it on, on the Internet. I'm like, okay, what brought this about? I said, did Ocho say something about him or what?
Chad Johnson
What transpired for one. You know, I don't talk about people.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, we definitely don't talk about people that do what we do.
Chad Johnson
Never. And you know, I don't talk about, about nobody, you know, but, you know, congratulations on everything. He said, happy. I. Happy for you, Chris Carter, your double digit touchdowns and your hall of fame and all that other good stuff. I love you. I wish you content, continued success and whatever it is you got going on, baby. I know what we doing over here, though. I know, I know, I know. I know where I'm going. I'm going that way.
Shannon Sharpe
Maybe he wanted you to respond.
Chad Johnson
And I did respond. I just said I love him.
Shannon Sharpe
No, but I'm saying I thought, I mean, I think maybe he wanted you to respond in a different way. And then it goes back and forth. We don't got too grown. I got. First of all, you got kids. I got kids. I got grandkids. I'm not fitting to go. Look what we did. We did. I can't. He can't go back and score no more touchdowns. You can't go back and score no more touchdowns.
Chad Johnson
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Shannon Sharpe
Who can't go back and score no more touchdowns? Who can't we right here.
Chad Johnson
Hey, hold on. I'm still scoring touchdowns right now.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, man. Yes, you're doing that great job.
Chad Johnson
Oh, man, I'm still scoring touchdowns in life. He talking about when we played. I don't care about that. I'm scoring double digit touchdowns right now. Come on now. You're not seeing, you're not, you're not hearing where I'm coming from.
Shannon Sharpe
I hear what you're saying. I know, I know, but that's my thing is that sometimes we get caught up and talk about what we used to do.
Chad Johnson
What you doing now? Talk to me. What you doing now?
Shannon Sharpe
We were all great at once upon a time in our own right. Okay. You know you did what you did. I think Cece played 16 seasons.
Chad Johnson
Wait, how many? How many?
Shannon Sharpe
He played 16.
Chad Johnson
How many? I played?
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know. Hell, you played. I think you played 11 to 12, didn't you?
Chad Johnson
11? How many. Hey, I played 11. He played 16. How many yards? How many yards he got?
Shannon Sharpe
I don't. Man, look here, I'm just asking.
Chad Johnson
I'm just trying. I'm trying to get a better understanding how many yards he got.
Shannon Sharpe
I Don't. How many yards does Cece have? But okay. The chat says CC snapped because he was pissed at Ocho for saying that he could beat Travis in a one on matchup 10 out of 10 times.
Chad Johnson
Why is he worried about, Bro, we'd.
Shannon Sharpe
Just be joking when we say stuff, man.
Chad Johnson
It ain't that serious. He knew that. He knew that because I do the same thing with everybody. He just.
Shannon Sharpe
You do. You just. And so I said, ocho, can you not challenge everybody that come on here? Who you.
Chad Johnson
Everybody that come on here can get that work. You hear me?
Shannon Sharpe
And Travis Hudson, CC had a tick below 14,000 yards. He had 13,899 yards.
Chad Johnson
So he played 15 season 16, I think 16. And he got what, 13,000 yards?
Shannon Sharpe
Almost 14,000.
Chad Johnson
Okay, so he plays 15, 16. He only got 3,000 more yards than me and played five more seasons. I had 11.
Shannon Sharpe
I guess.
Chad Johnson
Yeah. Okay. Okay. I'm just trying to get a better understanding on why. Okay, cool. Anyway, but like I was saying, anybody that come on this show, I have the utmost confidence in my ability in being able to do any and everything. That's something that a lot of people in this world lack. Even if you feel you can't do it, you have to feel you can, because everything starts up here in the mind. So everybody that comes on here, regardless of what sport they play or whatever it is that they do, I feel I can beat them. And if you feel. If you feel you can beat me doing at what you do best, whatever it may be, you gonna have to show me. You gonna have to show me. Matter of fact, Chris Carter. I'll lock Chris Carter ass up right now. Talking about what he did.
Shannon Sharpe
Man, you should. He fixed it.
Chad Johnson
Huh?
Shannon Sharpe
He fixed it.
Chad Johnson
What that mean? He talking like he still got it. Get out here, get on the field. Line it up. Put your cleats on. I'll lock your ass up, too.
Shannon Sharpe
We. We got a pulse. That's what we got. So we breathe it, we walk it, we get up out of bed. We got our right mind. Blood running warm in my veins.
Chad Johnson
Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. See, this is the thing about it. One thing about the wide receiver camp, the workshop that I just had, is I'm not just talking. I'm not just saying what it should look like. Uncle. I'm out there with my cleats and my shoes on. What? Out there running full speed. I still got it. You hear me? So it's one thing. Once you go back in that structured environment, you know with the X's and those and you have a receiver coach that actually never played, never really played the game. They just know the game based on paper and what it should look like. Yeah, like I'm not there running them routes with you. I'm not only just I'm not telling you what it should look like. I can actually display it and show you. Boy, this is. This is Picasso.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. I'll say this love. I've known Cece a long time. His brother and I used to hang when we went to the super bowl and stuff. I would just say this Cece know when the man joking it wasn't that serious.
Chad Johnson
Cece, I love you baby but put them cleats on. Put them cleats on. I'm gonna show you double digit touchdown. I put these two hands in your chest. Boy, you won't catch foreign.
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Club Shay Shay - Episode: MADDEN Ratings! Part 2: Unc was rated 100 in '99?! Release Date: August 3, 2025
In this riveting episode of Club Shay Shay, NFL legend Shannon Sharpe engages in an animated and heartfelt conversation with fellow NFL star Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson. The duo delves deep into their experiences, Madden video game ratings, the art of trash-talking in the NFL, and their endeavors in player development. This episode is a treasure trove for football enthusiasts, offering both nostalgic insights and contemporary perspectives from two icons of the game.
The episode kicks off with Shannon Sharpe addressing Chad Johnson about his impressive Madden rating from 1999.
Chad responds with pride, stating his highest rating of 98 overall, emphasizing that his on-field antics sometimes overshadow his hard-earned skills.
Shannon contrasts this by highlighting his own perfect rating.
This comparison sets the stage for a deeper discussion on how player personas influence public perception versus actual performance.
A significant portion of the conversation centers around the role of trash-talking in football, its entertainment value, and its effects on players.
Chad elaborates on his approach to trash-talking, distinguishing it from others by highlighting its entertaining and non-malicious nature.
Shannon underscores the importance of camaraderie and mutual respect despite the competitive banter.
This section offers listeners an insider's perspective on the psychological and strategic facets of in-game banter.
Shannon and Chad discuss their initiatives to mentor and develop upcoming players, emphasizing the importance of skill-sharing and collaboration.
Chad shares his experiences running a wide receiver workshop, expressing gratitude towards the participants and the collective effort to uplift the craft of receiving.
Shannon adds his perspective on the necessity of sharing knowledge rather than hoarding it, fostering an environment where "iron sharpens iron."
This dialogue highlights the mutual respect between seasoned players and their commitment to nurturing the next generation.
The conversation takes a nostalgic turn as both Shannon and Chad reminisce about their playing days, memorable moments, and significant achievements.
Chad Johnson ([05:59]): "I used to run full speed. This is Picasso."
Shannon Sharpe ([18:03]): "I know the history of that position. I'm greatly appreciative."
They discuss legendary players, memorable games, and the evolution of the tight end and wide receiver positions over the years.
Towards the end of the episode, Shannon and Chad engage in playful banter, showcasing their camaraderie and off-field personalities.
Shannon Sharpe ([30:00]): "Hello, everybody. My name is Thanos."
Chad Johnson ([32:20]): "You'd be a PC. I'm Big. He said, I run stuff around here."
Their exchange about pets, hobbies, and friendly challenges adds a layer of relatability and humor to the episode.
The duo tackles the subject of public criticism, particularly focusing on Maddens ratings and how external opinions impact their legacy.
Chad Johnson ([43:45]): "Everything is predicated off numbers and based on what they did."
Shannon Sharpe ([46:28]): "What's stopping someone that comes on here? How he get 14,000 yards."
They discuss the validity of statistics in evaluating a player's career and the subjective nature of public opinion.
The episode wraps up with acknowledgments of past discussions and a reaffirmation of their ongoing commitment to football and mentoring.
Chad Johnson ([48:14]): "So anybody that comes on here, I have the utmost confidence in my ability...I can beat them."
Shannon Sharpe ([49:28]): "We just. This ain't no...we got a pulse. That's what we got."
Their closing remarks emphasize resilience, continuous improvement, and the undying passion for the game.
Shannon Sharpe ([22:25]): "You got to move because they gonna pile on you. You have to keep your feet moving because, you know, hey, we all have been rolled up on. And it ain't no damn fun."
Chad Johnson ([35:41]): "I sent gifts to my opponents in secondaries to elevate the level of trash talk. The bravado I brought to the game is a little different now. It's all fun and love before the game."
Shannon Sharpe ([13:54]): "Now, what if somebody would have done that to you? What if somebody would have hoarded that information and teach you how to be and how to dip?"
This episode of Club Shay Shay offers a blend of intense discussion, heartfelt moments, and entertaining banter between Shannon Sharpe and Chad Johnson. Listeners gain invaluable insights into the dynamics of NFL personalities, the significance of player development, and the enduring spirit that drives these legends of the game. Whether you're a die-hard football fan or someone interested in the stories behind the athletes, this episode provides a comprehensive and engaging listen.