Marrying The “Freak”, Getting Put In The Dog House, & Telling Him Your Bedroom List | Truth After Dark

Summary

Club Shay Shay – "Marrying The 'Freak', Getting Put In The Dog House & Telling Him Your Bedroom List" (Truth After Dark)

Release Date: October 13, 2025
Hosts: Azar Faraday & Truth
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts & Shay Shay Media
Episode Theme: Relationships, loyalty, sexual history, social media’s impact on dating, accountability, and "the doghouse"

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Episode Overview

In this candid and explosive episode of Truth After Dark, hosts Azar Faraday and Truth break down provocative relationship topics swirling through social media and celebrity culture. From whether men should "marry the freak" (or "hoe") to handling infidelity, gift expectations, the infamous "doghouse," and the controversial idea of sharing sexual partner lists, the conversation gets personal and unfiltered. The hosts take on viral headlines, question double standards, and challenge each other (and listeners) to think deeply about what makes relationships work (or fail) in the modern world.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Viral Current Events: Paul Pierce & Relationship Drama

• [02:24] Recap of media reports about Paul Pierce’s suspected DUI; conversation about being stuck in traffic past bedtime, leading to honest role-play about exhaustion and public narratives.
  • Truth on responsibility: “I can't put myself in that situation though. … Stuff happened. And then, you know, I had my day in court.”
  • Azar offers support: “I'm glad you're good and you're in good spirits and everything gonna be all right, period.”

2. Should Men 'Marry the Freak'?

• [04:30] The hosts discuss author Corinne Stephens’ viral statement urging men to "marry the hoe" instead of cheating on "good girls."

  • Truth is skeptical: “Is she married? … There we go. Why is she not married then?” [05:05]
  • Azar shares skepticism, citing Stephens’ comment about always leaving for Lil Wayne: “Who wants that? … That's why men don't want to marry a hoe. Because once a hoe, always a hoe, baby.” [05:31]

• Both agree long-term relationships need more than just sexual excitement:

  • Truth: “When it gets down to sitting around and really bringing some substance to the table … sex gonna wear out eventually.” [06:12–07:13]
  • Azar: “If everything is driven off of sex, it’s not gonna have real longevity in a relationship. And that’s just the truth.” [08:14]

3. Intimacy vs. Substance: Navigating Sex & Commitment

• The hosts explore why people risk stability for sexual thrill, recognizing that sex can operate “like a drug,” but real relationships require choosing each other repeatedly and working through mistakes.

  • Azar: “You have to be with someone that chooses you all the time and isn’t willing to give up on you.” [10:21]
  • Truth: “Love is what you can deal with.” [11:02]

• On working through infidelity:

  • “Men fuck up and be like, all right let me get her a new this or shopping or trip or car or a new house. … It takes more than that.” – Truth [12:01]
  • “If you want to really be with someone and you want to work it out, it’s only so long you put a motherfucker through that ... or you’re gonna start creating a divide.” – Azar [15:53]

4. The Doghouse Debate: How Long is Too Long?

• “A woman has to figure out how long the doghouse has to last.” – Truth [00:32, 14:21]
• Discussion on emotional punishment after cheating, and when holding out crosses into sabotage.
  • “If we gonna work toward working it out, we gotta have some tough discussions. … The doghouse is cold. And I understand that, but it gets to a certain point to be like … are we going to work through this?” – Truth [14:34–15:42]

5. Double Standards: Men vs. Women on Accountability

• Truth argues men are quicker to forgive, while women “harp on it” and drag out punishment. Azar agrees but notes men often repress resentment and women need to take more accountability.
  • “Men are much more simple. Women are going to overthink it, overanalyze. … Men will brush it under the rug and it will create resentment, though.” – Azar [18:58–19:46]

6. Public Shaming: Exposing Cheating at Weddings

• [21:26] Viral story of a bride reading her cheating fiancé’s texts aloud at the altar.
  • Truth: “You made him look bad. Right? But you made yourself look bad. … You publicly embarrassed yourself, too.” [22:52–23:04]
  • Azar agrees: “Be classy. Like, I don't want people in my business. … I value privacy.” [24:51–26:59]

7. Oversharing Culture & Lost Mystery

• Both lament social media’s compulsion to publicize everything, from breakups to OnlyFans to criminal cases.
  • “Everything is sexualized, exposed, monetized. … Where’s the dignity?” – Truth [27:37–28:57]
  • “I value keeping the things that go on between me and my personal relationships private.” – Azar [26:59]

8. The Sex Partner List: Cam Newton’s Transparency

• [31:19] Discuss NFL quarterback Cam Newton’s public claim he requires his partner’s full list of sexual partners.
  • Truth: “For me, it’s a double-edged sword … do I really want to know?” [31:19–31:31]
  • Azar: “For me, like I said, it’s more of a respect thing … I’m not gonna have my man in front of someone … I know I used to mess with.” [33:09]
  • Truth wonders if Cam reciprocated with his own list: “Did you give your list up or is just required from her? … A man don’t even know his list.” [35:12–36:11]

9. Gift Giving & Entitlement: The $2,000 Birthday Debate

• [39:05] Viral scenario: Woman rejects $2,000 birthday gift, says she deserves more; Truth speculates she’s used to more and calls out the “competition” created by Instagram.
  • “I hate the fact that like a man has to do something for a woman, and that sets the bar … if I do anything less than that, it’s a disappointment.” – Truth [42:58]
  • “If that’s what matters to you more is monetary than being in a relationship, then you go there.” – Azar [44:50]

10. Red Flag Game: Relationship Boundaries

• [46:22+] Rapid-fire “red flag or nah” scenarios:
  • Texting ex “happy birthday” every year? Many consider a red flag ([46:52] Truth: “Super disrespectful.”)
  • Old sex tapes in partner’s phone? Truth isn’t fazed: “I ain't really tripping off.” ([48:03])
  • Liking thirst traps at 2 am? Truth picks his battles, not worried unless a pattern emerges ([49:18])
  • Partner goes through your phone while you sleep? Both not mad, but see the deeper trust conversation ([50:04–51:03])
  • Refuses location sharing? Both see it as controlling if you have to micromanage ([51:35–53:05])

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Notable Quotes & Timestamp Highlights

• On sex not sustaining relationships:
  “Sex gonna wear out eventually, you know, and he gonna be looking at other girls sexually.” – Truth [07:06]

• On betrayal and forgiveness:
  “Love is what you can deal with.” – Truth [11:02]
  “If you want to really be with someone … you can’t continue to make them pay or you’ll drift apart.” – Azar [15:53]

• On public shaming:
  “You made him look bad. Right? But you made yourself look bad. … You publicly embarrassed yourself, too.” – Truth [22:52–23:04]

• On social media and relationships:
  “Everything is sexualized, everything is visualized, everything is exposed. … You are able to monetize all of that.” – Truth [27:37]

• On partner lists:
  “Did you give your list up or is just required from her? … A man don’t even know his list.” – Truth [35:12–36:11]

• Entitlement and the $2k gift:
  “I hate the fact that a man has to … if I do anything less than that, it’s a disappointment.” – Truth [42:58]
  “If that’s what matters to you more is monetary than being in a relationship, then you go there ...” – Azar [44:50]

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Memorable Moments

• [05:31] Azar clowning Superhead’s loyalty to Lil Wayne:
  “She said that no matter what relationship that she was in … if Lil Wayne calls, she’s leaving ... Who wants that?"

• [16:56] Truth expressing man-doghouse fatigue:
  “Being in a dog house to where I ain’t getting no food, ain’t getting no sex. … The doghouse is cold.”

• [22:52] The viral “altar exposure” moment:
  “Instead of saying her vows, he says his vows, and she starts reading off the text message … about his affair. Isn’t that wild?”

• [31:19] Cam Newton’s bedroom list expectation:
  “He said … he needs the list of his girl's partners that she slept with, period. The names.”

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Episode Tone and Dynamic

The hosts keep it real, swinging between laughter, friendly teasing, and sharp honesty. They aren’t afraid to call out toxic behaviors—whether it’s men buying forgiveness or women playing emotional games. There’s a persistent push for accountability and substance over appearances, playfully delivered but with underlying seriousness. Their banter about the “doghouse” and questionable red flags had a confessional, brother/sister vibe, with occasional generational and gender digs.

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Key Timestamps

• [02:24] Paul Pierce DUI – media narratives
• [04:30] Corinne “Superhead” Stephens’ “Marry the hoe” philosophy
• [06:12] The substance vs. sex debate; longevity in relationships
• [14:21] The “doghouse” and relationship repair
• [21:26] Viral bride exposes cheating at the altar
• [27:37] Social media, oversharing, and lost mystery
• [31:19] Cam Newton wants the bedroom partner list
• [39:05] The “$2,000 birthday” controversy
• [46:22+] Relationship Red Flag game

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Final Takeaways

• Real relationships require substance, honest communication, and real work—not just sex or money.
• Social media amplifies drama and can make trust and privacy much harder to manage.
• Gender double standards run deep—especially around sexual history, infidelity, and forgiveness.
• Holding grudges (“the doghouse”) without genuine repair can destroy a partnership.
• “Transparency” is good, but mutual respect and boundaries matter most.

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For listeners who missed the episode:
Expect a lively, raw, and sometimes confrontational exploration of the messiness of modern love. The hosts break down headlines, personal stories, and social debates, with lots of banter, occasional wisdom, and plenty of attitude. If you’re thinking about what it means to stay real—and stay together—in the social media era, this one’s for you.

Transcript

[A]

This is an I heart podcast. The media said that Paul Pierce got arrested from suspicion of a dui. Do you have something that you want to say about that.

[B]

Man?

[A]

Corrine Stephens, superhead. She went on.

[B]

That's crazy to have that type of nickname, right?

[A]

Marry the hoe. Meaning, like, men should marry whores.

[B]

Come on now. Is she married?

[A]

No.

[B]

There we go. Why is she not married then? A woman has to figure out how long the dog house has to last.

[A]

Yeah, go ahead.

[B]

We hate, like, when we're in the doghouse and then y', all, you know, we get it cracking at night. Okay. It just be one of them nights.

[A]

Yeah. Like, damn.

[B]

And so he think he back good.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

And then, like, you know, a day or two later, he tried to get it back cracking. And you off.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

What was. We just like.

[A]

We was just cool.

[B]

Cool. Like we not cool.

[A]

Now, Cam Newton, let me make sure I do not misquote him. He said that he needs the list of his girl's partners that she slept with, Period. The names.

[B]

I know your list probably crazy.

[A]

It's not. The disrespect is out of control.

[B]

Here. I'm gonna send you. I'm gonna fax you these. Cause I don't want you.

[A]

No, actually, my list is not crazy.

[B]

Thank you. Her list crazy.

[A]

No, it's not.

[B]

This is the taking over the game. All right, everybody. Welcome to Truth After Dark.

[A]

Do you think that men or women are more toxic? Hello to all the beautiful people out there. You are watching the Truth After Dark. Thank you for joining us and continuing to support us. I am your host, Azar Faraday, and your boy, Truth.

[B]

In the building.

[A]

In the building. So today we're going to start with a few current events. The first most pressing one is that the media said that Paul Pierce got arrested from suspicion of a dui. Do you have something that you want to say about that?

[B]

Man, driving stuck in traffic, cars wasn't moving, right? I'm like, dang. I'm like past my bedtime, right? I'm like, I'm at 9 o' clock bedtime for sure. I'm 9 o'. Clock. It was like 10:30. I'm sitting in there like, man, kind of lean back like it ain't gonna never end. Like it was non moving. I never even seen non moving. At least you're gonna inch, you know, I just closed my eyes and then it was, man, I can't put myself in that situation, though. You know, when you close your eyes and I'm not driving well, you weren't driving. I put it in park, actually. I put it in park. We were sitting there so long, it.

[A]

Was like 45 minutes. He was sitting there.

[B]

Yeah, I know. And it was just like, damn. I didn't think it was ever going to end. I thought somebody had died on the freeway or something. I thought it was a bad situation. So I didn't know how long we was going to be there. But, yeah, stuff happened. And then, you know, I had my day in court.

[A]

Yeah, for sure. I get it. I would fall asleep, too. 45 minutes sitting somewhere at past my bedtime, I'm sure knocking the fuck out. I'm going to tell you that right now. That's crazy. I'm sorry that happened to you. That's wild. But, you know, the truth will prevail, period. The name speaks for itself. The truth. But I'm glad you're good and you're in good spirits and everything gonna be all right, period.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

All right, well, moving on from that, we're gonna get into some other hot topics. So Corinne, Stefan, superhead, she went on.

[B]

That'S crazy to have that type of nick now, right?

[A]

So she. She went on, actually, one of my friends podcast, and she has a clip that's going viral. And she said, marry the hoe. Meaning, like, men should marry because they really want to be with horrors, but instead they feel like they are supposed to be with, like, the good girl, the virgin. The girl who's, like, composed and put together, but then they cheat on her with the. So she's like, just marry the whore and stop playing around acting like whores.

[B]

Don'T get cheated on either. Come on now. Is she married? No. There we go. Why she not married, then? Cause she just trying to promote that. You know what? I remember her from the early 2000s, you know, writing a book or something or getting around.

[A]

She wrote like a. Tell all of all the men she had sex with or whatever.

[B]

Trying to get back relevant and everything, man. Nobody messing with her, man. Come on.

[A]

And Little Wayne. And you know what's so crazy that she says this? She was in a relationship, whether. I don't know if she was married or not, but she said that no matter what relationship that she was in, married or not, if Lil Wayne calls, she's leaving and she's gonna go, suck him, girl. Who wants that? I'm so confused. That's why men don't want to marry a hoe. Because once a hoe, always a hoe, baby. And you gonna turn around and go fucking suck the next person. And that's crazy.

[B]

Yeah, she. She trying to spark some interest, but that ain't it. You know, she need to. She.

[A]

She cooked well. She was saying that what a hoe will give you is better than what like a housewife would give you.

[B]

I will tell you this about, like, women who are considered hoes and men that like them, men like that for just so long, you know what I'm saying? But you know, like, when you look at the longevity of somebody, you want somebody that is more than that. Like, come on now, like, just because sex is cool and you doing all these things that a man like that don't mean, that's gonna last forever. Like when it get down to, like sitting around and really bringing some substance to the table and really bringing like some maturity, bringing like some value to the table outside of sex, what is that?

[A]

Right.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? And that's what men really look for long term. And that's always gonna outweigh long run than the sex.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm telling you. Cause the sex gonna wear out eventually, you know, and he gonna be looking at other girls sexually.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, but then all these other things that you bring that got like.

[A]

Some substance to it can't be replaced so easily.

[B]

Yeah, it's gonna last a little. It's gonna last way longer. It's like, come on, man, like.

[A]

Cause sex is everywhere. You know what I mean?

[B]

You could get it. You can see it. You can.

[A]

You could pay for it. You could see it, you could get it. You can run up on it.

[B]

It's like the easiest thing, but like a real quality in a woman, like great qualities in a woman is hard to come by.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, someone that you look at, that's like, man, I can just see her really teaching kids this. Or I can see her, you know, really expanding on what I got. Or me expanding on what she got.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, it's bigger than that. And that's why we are brainwashed in society to look at females sexually and be like, that's the one. And too many women are sexualized and men go for that. Instead of really looking at the substance of a woman in the long run and being with that long term.

[A]

That makes sense. And it's funny you say that because a part of what she was saying was like, well, this girl can bring this and do this, but is she gonna wake up and twist it and turn it and every single day I'm corny, I'm doing this and it's like, Damn. Like, and what if your partner is not feeling that? Are you gonna need that to where you gotta go get it from someone else? Like, if everything is driven off of sex, it's not gonna have real longevity in a relationship. And that's just the truth.

[B]

Yeah, it's. I mean, I get what she trying to say. I do too relationships. And I said this some episodes ago, I feel like do be based on sex in a lot of ways. Because if I'm with you and you find out I have sex with another person, it could be over.

[A]

Yeah, exactly.

[B]

And it's like, damn, you didn't look at everything else I brought to the table. The intangibles, the substance. Like that just go out the window.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because of a.

[A]

A mishap? Because of a mistake.

[B]

Well, because of. Just like sex is just like, it's in our mind. It's. It's like, how do I even explain or word this? You know, it's. It's a beautiful thing when done with the person that you really feeling.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? But if it's just like casually done and just because you just a horny bastard and like she being a hoe, it's just like, damn, why did I risk all other things for that? But we're sometimes as men and women, weak individuals.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You have mistakes, man, because of sex and that. It's like a drug, you know what I'm saying? It's like people just want that quick fix insta high, real quick because it feels good at the moment, but then something then like a lot of times you see people regret it.

[A]

You feel miserable after you get caught.

[B]

And then the down, it's like, oh.

[A]

I shouldn't have did that.

[B]

You know what I'm saying?

[A]

But I will say this, and this is real to me. I feel like any relationship that has lasted long, that I admire, like my sister and her husband and other relationships, they've told me, like, you have to be with someone that chooses you all the time and isn't willing to give up on you. Like, I don't want to be in a relationship where it's like, oh, you did one mistake. Okay. Like by, I'm done. Like, I can't live like that.

[B]

You don't know that until you make.

[A]

Yeah. Until you make a mistake. And that's why making mistakes and doing things in relationships is what either brings you closer or it makes you drift apart. Because that's how you know if someone really loves you. It's like you said one time it's love sometimes is not about what you can give, it's about what you can take.

[B]

Or love is what you can deal with. Yeah, like, that's not cool.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. For real. Like, how can I deal with this? And it's not cool, but I love this person and they're worth it to me. And also, you have to have two people willing to do the work because we gonna make mistakes. But are you willing to do the work, recognize where you was wrong, and try to make this right? Like, I'm fucking with someone as long as I know, like, you want to make this work as bad as I do. All right. Like, that's half the battle. They say as the half of the battle is two people being like, no, we going to work this out. We going to do this shit. I don't care what goes on.

[B]

Like, this. The thing about, man, we know we might mess up or the girl might mess up and she going to drive to her knees and apologize all that. Man might do that. But a man don't know how to, like, go overboard sometimes to apology. And we always figure, like, and you know what our problem is? Thinking we can buy our girl back.

[A]

True.

[B]

That's real.

[A]

Men do that a lot.

[B]

Men fuck up and be like, all right, let me get her a new this or shopping or trip or car or a new house. Like, bro, it take more than that. And that's like showing you where the basis of your relationship is. If you do cheat on your wife and then you get her these gifts and now she's happy. Like, come on, that's not a real relationship. That's not a real substance. That's not built on, like, concrete, you know? That's not built on, like, actually trying.

[A]

To make it work. Like someone that actually cares and has real invested. Yeah.

[B]

Like, really, really going through it. Like, damn. You might have to accept she might not give you none for, like, a year. Year?

[A]

That's crazy, man. What you mean, a year of no sex? Then your man's gonna cheat again. How? He can't have sex for a whole year, man.

[B]

It's like a woman is turned off by a man. Like, if you wit or something like that, you turned off.

[A]

It's true.

[B]

So, like, what, after a week, y' all gonna be cracking?

[A]

It's not a week, but I'm gonna be cracking after, like, a few weeks. Then it's like, okay, we could have.

[B]

Been in the relationship back then. So if it's a few weeks, then he feel like he could do it again, right?

[A]

You need to let a man sit in the house.

[B]

You gotta make a. Like, the doghouse gotta be a real doghouse. I swear, like, if you willing to sit in that doghouse, and I don't know if the number is a year, but that's a real doghouse. But then it's just like, if he could get back somehow to where it was before.

[A]

It gets stronger after that, though, in my opinion. If you guys can.

[B]

How do you know? Well.

[A]

Cause I know, because I've been in that situation. I feel like if you work towards repair, it's just like break repair, connection repair. Like D Smoke was saying, you're going to go through that. And I've always been taught you got to make sure the person is worth it. Because no matter who you're with, you're going to go through. Everyone makes mistakes. Everyone is not perfect. And if you plan on being with someone for the long haul, trust and believe some shit's going to happen. And you got to be willing to do the work and repair it with each other. That's where it matters. Not just buy it, because that puts a band aid on it. That don't fix the root of the problem.

[B]

See, this is the problem in the relationship because, like, when y' all going through it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

A woman has to figure out how long the dog house has to last.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, seriously, there's a fine line on the doghouse. Yeah.

[A]

Cause if it's too long, then you, you, you.

[B]

But say he doing everything he can to get back in good graces and everything. And he's still in the dog house, and it's one, two, three months, and he's still trying to be the man for you. And he still want to work it out, and you still want to work it out also, you know, like, how long is that dog house? Because, like, damn, like, not being able to. Like, if a man coming home in the doghouse, he's not getting no food, he not getting no sex. Like, damn, the doghouse is cold. The dog house. And I understand that, but it gets to a certain point to be like, damn. Like, man, is we trying to work this out? We'll work toward working it out then. Because that ain't working toward working it out doing shit like that. Like, if we gonna work toward working it out, we gotta have some. Some tough discussions. Because being in a dog house to where I ain't getting fed and I ain't getting no sex, and we ain't chilling and chilling cozy enough watching movies, and we ain't like. And you lean into the side in the bed and you doing like, man, come on. That only come. A man can only, like, he understand his mistakes. But then it's just got to get to the point, like, all right, are we going to work through this?

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

Like, let's work on working through this, because that's not working on working through this. And I understand you mad, and I understand that you feel a certain type of way, but, like, what are we doing then?

[A]

I agree. Because either. Okay, then are we going to end it? Because if we're going to end it, we're going to end it. But if you want to work it out, you can't continue. I always tell this. If you want to really be with someone and you want to work it out, you. It's only so long. You put a motherfucker through that, because then you're going to start creating a divide in your relationship, and you guys are going to drift apart, not together. If I'm like, look, I know he cheated, and I know I. The goal is I do want to be with him and I'm going to get back with him, but I'm going to let him gravel for a little bit and feel it. But you have to put it. Like you said, it's a thin line on how long you can let somebody go in that space. Because as soon as a man starts to feel too neglected while he's giving his whole soul or pouring his whole heart, then at some point it's like, well, all right, what do you want me to do then? Cuz you not even budging. And this is not us working towards it together. We have to be both willing to do it. If you go to therapy, they're going to say, are y' all both willing to work it out and do the work? If not, don't waste my time. It's not going to work then if one of you is not willing. So that's the truth.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, it's just. That's a tough situation.

[A]

It's a tough situation.

[B]

There's no real timeline on that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? It ain't like a week or a couple days or two months or something like that. It just got to be a lot of tough conversations.

[A]

It got to be conversations, and it.

[B]

Got to be a lot of tough conversations.

[A]

Maturity, too, though. It takes a lot of maturity to actually look at things from a logical perspective. Women, we operate from emotion a lot, and men are more logical. So when a woman is fueled by her emotions, we can't See straight a lot of the time, and we can over sensationalize things and make it way better, bigger than what it is. And it's like, okay, slow down. Let's look at it logically, and let's weigh out everything this man is doing. Xx this one mistake happened. What are the pros? What are the cons? Let's work through this. If you don't want to work through it, let it go. But you can't decide to work through it and then also bring someone down every day. Like.

[B]

Like on a woman's side. Like, you know, what's the length of. On a woman's side? Because we always talk about the men messing up. We never talk about when the women mess up. Like, what is the women doing? How are they trying to get back in good graces? Or the men, like, we going to forgive you? If we want to work it out, we forgive quicker than women, for sure.

[A]

Men are very quick to. Because y' all don't.

[B]

We gonna either be done.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Or we gonna work through it, and it's gonna be back to normal quicker than.

[A]

Yeah. A woman goes harp on it for a lot. I noticed that a man is just gonna be like e. And he wants to be with you or he doesn't. If he doesn't want to be with you, there's no. Nothing you could do. That's why I realized with a man, if a man's done, he's done.

[B]

If he a. He ain't gonna sit on here and mope. Turn to the side.

[A]

Yeah, exactly.

[B]

Like, he ain't gonna be over here while you over there.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, he going. Like.

[A]

He gonna either be like, all right, Gonna be it.

[B]

Or he gonna be like, man, you know, we gonna talk about it. Like, man, we gonna have a lot of conversations. I'm gonna cuss you out a couple.

[A]

Times, and we cool. Yeah.

[B]

And then we might be cool.

[A]

Yeah. And then that's it. Like, that's the difference between a man and a woman, though. Men are much more simple. Women are going to overthink it, overanalyze it. One sad moment, one good moment. Then they're back, sad. Then they're mad. Like, it's. Yeah. With a woman that goes through so many emotions, you don't know if she's coming or going. It's scary because you're like, damn, did she fuck with me? Now today she gonna wake up and be like, you. Like, it goes through a lot with a man. He's very cut and dry. I'm either gonna be with you or I'm not. If. If I'm not, I'm gonna tell you, look, I can't do this. I'm cool with a woman. That's why for men, I think women have to take more accountability when they mess up and are willing to be like, yo. Because men will brush it under the rug and it will create resentment, though. But if a woman is willing to be like, listen, I made this mistake because women. A lot of men tell me women don't take accountability for shit at all. And they're not. They're willing to flip it and twist it and make it still the man's fault, but you have to be willing to be like, listen, I made a mistake, and. And I'm willing to work on it genuinely.

[B]

This is what the man hate when he in the doghouse. This is. I'm gonna tell you this.

[A]

Okay, go ahead.

[B]

We hate, like, when we in the doghouse, and then y', all, you know, we get it cracking at night. Okay. It just be one of them nights.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, damn. And so he think he back good.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

And then, like, you know, a day or two later, he tried to get it back cracking, and you off.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What was. We just, like, just cool. Cool. Like, we're not cool now. Yeah, like, yeah, come on, man. Like, come on. That's.

[A]

That's.

[B]

Cause a woman playing with a man's emotions, though.

[A]

Yeah, it is.

[B]

Thinking like, all right, we getting back somewhere.

[A]

We getting back cool.

[B]

Now it's back to now you, like, no, now you back emotional.

[A]

And as a man, when you're in that situation, do you feel like. Like, as a man dealing with women, because I'm a woman, and I, you know, I'm trying to figure out, like, do you feel like when your woman is like that, you grovel more and you're like, I love you. I love you. Do you give her space? Like, what do you think as a man you do in them.

[B]

What's up, man? You know I love you. Like, what's going on? Like, I thought we was cool.

[A]

Like, yeah, okay.

[B]

It's just a. Too much. It gets too emotional up and down. It's like, damn. Like, yeah, we had a good day. Now it's a bad day. It's like, damn, man. You know, I had a hard day then dealing with. You got to deal with. With the world, too. It's like, damn. Then men get frustrated, and that's what lead to, like, us doing stuff that, like.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Regret.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, so, like, because you feel.

[A]

Like you don't even have your girl anyway. So you're like, yeah, I. You know, I just feel low. I feel like I don't know what I got going on. She not tapped in with me. She's checked out. Like, that's not a good feeling. So. I get that. I get that. So, anyways, speaking of all of this. So there's a bride who is going viral because she reacted to her fiance's affair by reading the text at the altar. So this girl went ahead and had to pay for the. The whole wedding paid for. And, you know, them weddings is not cheap. And her wedding was nice. And at the altar, instead of saying her vows, he says his vows, and she starts reading off the text message in front of his whole family and her family and everyone about his affair. Isn't that wild? Like, you have to be a vindictive.

[B]

All right, no, wait. Did they still get married?

[A]

No.

[B]

Oh, they didn't get married. Oh, you waited till that day.

[A]

That's what I'm trying to tell you. What you went through with a whole wedding, got your makeup done, dressed, bridesmaids, families, everything paid for everything. You wanted him to feel it. You. Yeah. And she went up there and she basically read all the texts. She exposed all the cheating in front of anyone.

[B]

This is what I don't like. Because, like, you made him look bad. Right? But you made yourself look bad.

[A]

You did to me, in my opinion. I think so.

[B]

You publicly embarrassed yourself, too.

[A]

I agree.

[B]

Like, what are you doing? Like, that's the society and that's the generation we live in, because you waited for it to be a whole public thing. To, like, say, hey, I'mma put you on blast in front of everybody and make you. So, like, really? He, like, oh, really? That's what you was on. All right, I know.

[A]

He's sick, though. You gotta be sick. You gotta be sick.

[B]

He paid for the wedding. He's sick.

[A]

And you're in front of your family and your friends.

[B]

Cause that's embarrassing. Like, this is the one day I thought this was gonna be the happiest day of my life. Turned out to be one of the saddest days of my life.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, why would you do that?

[A]

That's a vindictive girl. That's different.

[B]

Like, that's also a blessing in disguise, too.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's like, damn, if I had to marry into this and this is what it was going to be like, I might have saved my life. I might have saved some money and some headache, truthfully. So, like, if I'm here I'm glad this happened today because if once I put the ring on as a man and marriage and I got to deal.

[A]

With this, what that means you trying to bring me down? Yeah.

[B]

If you were doing it, I would have been like, thanks, I'm glad you did that.

[A]

Like, instead of behind closed doors, you can't commute. See, this is what I don't like. I don't like a motherfucker that can't have communication. You can't be with someone for all these years, willing to get married and something happens and you don't have a conversation. I don't like that. Talk to your partner. What happened? What is it? Like, have a pro. I don't like all that public shaming, somebody making them feel so bad. You're this. You're disgusting. Like, I don't like that. I'm not dealing with that. I don't fuck with that.

[B]

Like, that's what this generation is.

[A]

I don't fuck with that.

[B]

Like, hey, look, he. Look, he took me to cheesecake. Like, I'm that type of feet. Like, I ain't no cheesecake.

[A]

You're embarrassing yourself, though, as a woman. Be classy. Like, I don't want people in my business. I don't want everybody, my mom, my dad, my cousin, my niece, my nephew, to see the text message you was cheating on me with. Like, have some coof about yourself. And I feel like this generation and over is overexposed. We have no privacy. Like, you are afraid to with someone because they gonna blast your business. Like, it's blowing me. Because it's like, give us an opportunity to have something for ourselves. If we go and sit through something in our personal relationship, this is not a. A place to put it out to the whole world to see. This is not for social media. This is the intimacy of our relationship. Why is everyone need to know this?

[B]

Like, because this is that era. Like, everything is like, we in the era of, like, social media. We in the era of, like, I want you to know what's going on live right now, streaming, exposing, exposing my life. Like, this is the air to the people making a lot of money from exposing their life.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what I'm saying?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, I don't want to, like, deal with that type of pressure.

[A]

Yeah, I agree.

[B]

Expose my life.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

24 hours and then we watch that. So people want to do it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And they think that creates popularity. They think it generates money. They think it becomes fame.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And people chase fame, money, and popularity more than ever by exposing everything you do and letting everybody see it because they saying, this is my true authentic self and this is what you get to see on every day. And this is who I am. Like, come on, man. Some stuff need to be kept right behind the scenes. Exactly. And I'm old school, and I'm always gonna have that. I'm always gonna have that moving forward. It's gonna be like, something I can keep. I can hold on to this.

[A]

Like, you expose yourself, it's for you.

[B]

Yeah, this is for me, my sanity. Cause I'm keeping my sanity. Because that type of behavior will drive you crazy. Yeah.

[A]

And you have no privacy. And I feel like I value privacy where we live in a generation of people who do not. And I value my privacy. I value keeping the things that go on between me and my personal relationships private. I don't need that to be publicized everywhere. And I. I realize that even now when it comes to everything, like, women used to have to pay to see them, like, naked or something, or see a titty. Now I could literally open my Instagram and titties, vagina, like, anything. So exposed, it leaves no mystery. What happened to, like, mystery used to be sexy, you know, like, now it's like I could just see everything.

[B]

Everything gets driven by the dollar and notoriety, you know, because, like, now, like, to be. Everything is sexualized, everything is visualized, everything is exposed. Because you are able to monetize all of that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like. And like, instead of like, me, you know, the only fans now, and the watching the fight instead of breaking it up, like, everything, they try to monetize it. Because now it's just like. No, there's no. Just like, where's the dignity and everything.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? Where's the, like, where's the compassion for, like.

[A]

Yeah, just.

[B]

Self care and care for other people or like, it's just like, dude, I don't. Like, people will film somebody getting their ass whooped right there.

[A]

Before helping.

[B]

Before helping. Like, people will expose somebody. Instead of like, getting to the real issue just before the notoriety of it for monetizing. And it's like, damn. When everything is now monetized and you can make money off embarrassing and just exposing yourself.

[A]

Yeah. And other people.

[B]

And other people.

[A]

Other people's like, people gonna expose other people. Think about Young Thug in jail. Whoever was selling his. His recordings of his phone, his intimate conversations, like, whatever, Whatever. Whatever he was saying. Okay, I'm not defending it, but I'm just saying, like, the fact that people can't have intimate conversations if they feel like they can make a dollar off of you, they're going to sell that information. It doesn't matter. It's just like, damn, can someone just have a privacy for once?

[B]

Like, so glad I'm not a Y N in this generation.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, and just doing stuff like, come on, man. Like, I'm good. Yeah, I'm good that I was able to keep some stuff to myself.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

Have, like, this in my back pocket and I didn't have to show, you know, all the behind the scenes stuff. Like, come on, man. Like, man, you just. It's just.

[A]

No, mystery is not there anymore in that sense.

[B]

Yeah, the mystery is not there.

[A]

Yeah. So Cam Newton, let me make sure I do not misquote him. He said that he needs the list of his girl's partners that she slept with, period. The names. And he said he needs the names because he wants to know who got one up on him. And he doesn't want to walk into the place with his girl. And he's like, yeah, she bad. She this. You want some juice, babe? He said that it's the juice, babe. Lying and everything. And he was like, I don't want to be in front of a man who I know. Like, you had that and now I'm kikiing with a man. And you was with my girl. And he was like, it's just about me having that transparency and knowing so I could move accordingly. And then his girl came out and was just like, I'm so glad I gave him my whole list. I feel relieved. You know, she's. She's tweeted that or put it somewhere. So, yeah, that was his thing. And he was like. And there's a lot of people that are like, all right, cool, I could work with that. And he said, and then if it's someone, like, that was my teammate, you know, like, that was someone I see every day. Like, I'm not. I'm not. I might not be able to deal with that. He said, but if it's someone cool, cool, you know? But yeah, he said, I need that list.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, I get it, you know, and that's. It's. For me, it's a double edged sword because it's like, damn, do I really want to know or do I, like, get it? I get it. Like, I completely get it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, I'm saying I was in a situation too. I was talking to this girl. I was dating this girl, right? And, you know, we went out a couple times and then it was like, I remember we had dinner, we sat down and she was like, yeah, my ex is whoopty whoop. And I was just like, what? Like I currently kick it with him.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like from time to time. Like his number. Like we just kicked it. Like, like why wouldn't you say nothing at the beginning? Yeah, like you know that kick it with dude.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like so I get it. You know what I'm saying? So like for me, I was like, I'm not talking to you.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, no more.

[B]

You know, I'm good on that. Cause I don't move like that. Like if it's a dude I'm kicking it with and I know you his ex. I'm not moving like that.

[A]

Yeah, facts, you know.

[B]

So like I get where Cam is coming from with that. Because those type of situations can come about and I'm not mad at that, you know. Cause like I've been in situations or with girls that I was committed to, to where I asked, like, who else? You know? Woo, woo, woo. And you could tell me the truth or you could lie, whatever I'm a ask, you know what I'm saying? But it's gonna show anyway eventually. But like not my somebody I kick it with. Like you should have the type of like, you know, like you should be with somebody. Be like, like you shouldn't even wanna talk to me if you know.

[A]

Exactly. That's weird. That's on her. You know what I'm saying?

[B]

That's on you. Like why are to me, like I'm not the get back dude.

[A]

Yeah. You trying to get back on some stuff.

[B]

No, but if we trying to get serious, like that's not gonna work. That's not gonna work.

[A]

And that's true. I feel like the whole list or whatever the names are to me, I'm like not against it. But I also feel like it's for me more of a thing of like respect. Like, look, I'm not gonna have my man in front of someone shaking hand boo up with someone that I know I used to mess with. I'm gonna tell him like, yo, I we had a situation going on. I'm just letting you know, like that's more of the thing. Like I'll give a list if it's needed. But I think that the bigger thing is like I'm not going to let my man feel like he's out of control and like not respected or like someone feels like they got a one up. I never want anyone to feel like they got a one up on my man because that's A reflection of me. I'm a reflection of him. Like, I don't want that feeling, and I don't want that for me. Like, I don't want to be out with my man as a girl. Like, yeah, girl, that's my. Like, I'm going to feel crazy. And if I'm kikiing with you and I'm cool, like, that makes me uncomfortable. And I would never want my man to feel that same way.

[B]

So you just going to tell them right off the gate, like, these niggas.

[A]

Like, I will. Like, if it's not probably crazy, it's not the disrespect. You'd be, like, out of control.

[B]

Here, I'm going to send you. I'm going to fax you these because I don't want you to say no.

[A]

Actually, my list is not crazy.

[B]

Thank you. She heard that's crazy.

[A]

No, it's not. And I honestly haven't. No, my list is small. Like, I can count my list on my hands. Like, I don't have a big list and I know who I've slept with. And. And for me, like I said, it's more of a respect thing to where if I'm like, yeah, if my man is kikiing with someone, like, first of all, if I have a man and I know I mess with his friend or someone he kicks it with, that's not my man. I'm not. We're not fucking around, like, to begin with. Unless I just did not know. And once I find out, I'm telling you, like, oh, look, this is the situation. Because I don't want someone else to say it. Like, that's weird.

[B]

This is the one thing I would love to ask Cam. Like, I would love to ask him if he gave her his list.

[A]

Right?

[B]

Was that required?

[A]

I don't think that was required.

[B]

Would that be a thing?

[A]

I don't think that's a thing.

[B]

Like, you know, he's a pretty famous dude and, you know, it's a possibility he been with some famous women. Or it's a possibility he could have been with, like, some of the girls he's dated or been, like, in a situation.

[A]

Like, his girl's friends.

[B]

Yeah, one of her friends. I wonder if he gave the list too. So I don't know, Cam. It go both ways, too. Did you give your list up or is just required from her? I'm just saying, like, damn. I ain't ever. I'm sure. I wondered, like, damn.

[A]

I mean, I don't think that it was, like, me personally I'll be honest, if I'm with a man, I don't want to know his list. But what I want to know is, like, don't have me looking stupid, but.

[B]

I would tell you this about a man.

[A]

A man don't even know his list.

[B]

Don't even know his list, I would say.

[A]

Exactly. That's what I'm saying. A man don't even know his list. Barely remember his name.

[B]

Yeah, hold on, let me go through the phone. Like what? Like I used to.

[A]

Like, a man don't know his list.

[B]

Man, he don't know his list.

[A]

And that's the difference. And I think that for women, we're expected to have less partners, right? So like his girl. He has a girl, she's beautiful and they have kids together, whatever. And she came out, she said, you give him list. You know, I'm sure she messed with some celebrities or whoever, maybe, like. But I feel like with a man, you are not expected to do that because you. We don't know who the hell y' all slept with because y' all don't.

[B]

Know who the hell y' all slept with. Celebrity men that be out in public that have had women come up to them and be like, hey, remember we hung out.

[A]

Yeah, for sure. I've been out with a man that I'm with and women have came up like, hello, Hello. Like, and as a woman, I know what that means. That means like you have sex with her.

[B]

That don't mean hello. Maybe you just know me or we talk.

[A]

No, no, no, no, no. It's a certain energy because it girl will be like, cuz I'm a girl, so I don't do that type of stuff. Cuz I'm not the type of woman.

[B]

Maybe you used to talk to them.

[A]

Talk. Or like you had sex with them and you just left them high and dry. Cuz I know that energy of what a woman brings. Like, oh, hello. Yeah, me, yeah, you like girl.

[B]

Well, like. And it's embarrassing trying to embarrass.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

A guy. Truthfully, girls be out and like talk to this guy for like years and see him with a girl and he probably curved her and might do that too. Yeah, like, oh, hey, hey. And then he looking at her like, we better get out of here.

[A]

Yeah, I feel like women do that. And I've noticed that too. Where it's like, girl, like. And for me, I've never done that because that's embarrassing.

[B]

Women behavior.

[A]

Yeah, they are.

[B]

Women behaving.

[A]

And you know what I notice about women? Like Women are such haters sometimes. Like, if someone hit me up and was like, hey, was my man. Was my man flirting with you? And I will probably be like, nah, because that's not my business. I would either not reply or I would say no. But I've noticed that women are haters, and sometimes women think that a man is flirting with them or someone's flirting with them, and I'm just being friendly. Like, you doing too much now. You cocky enough to think that I even want you is blowing me. Like, and I think that women have an inflated ego sometimes. And you think that somebody wants you when they don't. And y' all just. I. I just can't, like. And I' been noticing that a lot. So. Yeah. Anyways, getting into this next thing. So there. Huh.

[B]

So talk to me.

[A]

Okay, so there's. Right now there's a woman, right? And she's in a relationship with a man. And it was her birthday. He sent her. And mind you, she. They po. He posted the text messages on the Internet.

[B]

Okay?

[A]

He. He sent her 2K for her birthday. Like, just for the day. Like, baby. Yeah, yeah. But they are together, so she. He sent her 2K and was like, you know, happy birthday.

[B]

Together.

[A]

Yeah, they're in a relationship.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So he sent her 2K and she returned it and sent it back on because it's Apple pay. Sent it back on the Apple pay and said, first of all, we've been together way too long for you to think sending me 2k for my birthday is cool. I deserve way more than 2k and I know my worth. Like, 2000 is not enough money. If you're going to send me money, it needs to be way more than that. Like, I'm cool. And she sent it back, so everyone is outraged. You know, the men are like, bitch. Like, 2k is cool. Like, you're tripping. Da, da, da, da. What are your thoughts on that?

[B]

Thoughts on that is if she did that and everybody's reacting to that. He's given her more than 2k just on a regular day, and today is her birthday, and you only gave her 2k because I'm trying to tell you, like, she wouldn't have did that if he has never given her 2k before. First of all, he's probably been on some like, hey, man, take this 5k on a regular day. You know what I'm saying? Or take this 10 racks. But then it's my birthday. Hold on. You done gave me more on, like, a basic day, right?

[A]

On a regular day.

[B]

That all I'm trying to tell. So she looking like, damn, I'm really getting a deuce piece. Like, you gave me five. Just on some chill. Like, oh, here you go.

[A]

Oh, you're going out of town, you're chilling. Like just a regular.

[B]

He go five.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So like, for her to do that meant he gave her more on some, like, basic shit. 100%. Cause ain't no girl if he ain't never gave her 2k before. And he was like, oh, you up the Annie. Boom. Here go 2000.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, damn.

[A]

I didn't know if it meant, like, I want you to make an actual effort and not give me money, like. Or she just was like, mad because it seemed like she was just mad because it was only 2k though.

[B]

Yeah. Because he didn't gave her more before.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

On a basic day, he probably gave her more on Valentine. Right here, go shopping. 5,000 big old 2K on your birthday.

[A]

Because she was like, I know my worth and this is for you. For we have to be together this long and you only giving me 2k. Let me tell you. I'll tell you exactly what she said too. This is her. Her exact message. She said. He said, happy early birthday, baby. Love you forever. Wishing you many more. I'mma be sleep at 12. So telling you now. LOL. And sent her 2000. She said, thanks, but I'mma send it back. I just feel like we've been together way too long for me to only get $2,000 for my b bday. You spend that on food in a month. I'm not being ungrateful. I just know my worth. And thank you though. You always been sweet. But is niggas really out here trying to spend a bag on me? I don't like her energy.

[B]

She don't like you. Really?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

She don't like you because she worried about other guys spending more money on you. Because when it's love, you not even tripping off that.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

Oh, that's cool. I appreciate that. Like, maybe he trying to test me, like. Cause if, like, see females y' all don't know, y' all play checkers, not chess. And what I mean by that, like, he could have gave her 5k on another day, 10k on another day, a basic day. He gave her 2k on her birthday.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

If she had have been like, oh, I appreciate that. Just everything you do for me is so sweet. It's just amazing that I got you in my life. He's like, damn, that's the answer. I really wanted to hear. He probably was testing her and he would have put through her more.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

And that's what I be trying to, like. Females, like, get so reactive and emotional off. Like, damn, you should be thankful he, like, for that.

[A]

I agree. I agree.

[B]

Damn. Like, I hate the fact that a man has to, like, do something for a woman. And that sets the bar to, if I do anything less than that, it's a disappointment. Like, come on, man. It should be like, oh, I might have did this this time, but I'm gonna do this this time. Like, at least I'm doing. Like, come on, now. I'm doing. I'm putting out story.

[A]

I agree, I agree.

[B]

Nails is done, right? Boo. Damn. Them stilettos is looking right. Them heels, boom. Lips is popping like, damn, you eating good, right? You eating good, right? Yeah, like, damn, man. And I just hate that like a man. So that goes into the, like category and things that we speak of. Of you led with money, my boy.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

So, like, now when the money and keep going up, she gonna go to motherfuckers that's offering her shit. And this is what I hate. I hate the fact that, like, it's so tough to have a relationship when she. When he offered her, too, and, like, she threw like, niggas is offering me a bag. How? What you mean niggas is offering a bag?

[A]

Why is that an option?

[B]

Like, wait, wait, wait. How? Why? Cause now I got my Instagram to where I gotta compete with Instagram every day with guys saying how beautiful I am. You deserve this, you deserve that. And they gassing you. See, and this is the problem with relationships now.

[A]

Yeah. Like, you're right.

[B]

I gotta compete every day. If I don't upstage whoever I'm competing with, I gotta compete with millions of dudes every day for my girl. Yeah, like, come on, man. That's crazy to me.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, I gotta, like, make sure her mind is right, and I'm telling her she beautiful. The one day I don't tell her she beautiful, I'm gonna be at a. At a disadvantage because she got millions telling her this and because I was mad and all this, I got to deal with this. Like, come on, man. That's crazy.

[A]

Period, period. I agree. I agree 100%. I feel like Instagram does create a false sense of options because a lot of those people who are telling you you look good in this, they not doing nothing. They're not going to really be committed to you in a relationship. I think women mistake attention with actual, like, someone who wants to really deal with you. Just because someone gives you attention doesn't mean they would want to be in a committed relationship, work with you. So, yes, you can feel like it's a competition, but at the same time, like, if you have any sense at all, you know that that's not a real competition, because they're not really gonna do nothing. Like. And for her. What I don't like is I don't like people who, like, try to put people down. If I give you 2000, this is what I'm doing for you, and then you tell me some other people are gonna go do that, go with them, then. Like, I'm that type of someone else doing it. Cool. If that's what matters to you more is monetary than being in a. Then you go there. That's all. I'm so sick of people right now. Okay, we're going to play a little game, all right? To where you tell me if this is a red flag or this you'll stay. Like, would you stay or would you walk? So you find out that your girl is texting their. Her ex every birthday. Happy birthday. Wish you the best. Hope everything is well every year.

[B]

Now, your ex. Yeah, let's, like, break it down.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Is this your ex?

[A]

Y' all don't have kids. You know, because it's different. If you have kids. You're gonna say, happy Birthday. We're not talking about your ex.

[B]

You don't have kids with this person.

[A]

No. No attachments.

[B]

No time, no attachments. That's a red flag. That's. That's tricky. That's tricky because, like, you know. No, that's weak. And. Are you in a relationship? Yeah, no, I'm good. Don't do that. That's disrespectful.

[A]

I agree.

[B]

Super disrespectful.

[A]

I agree, man.

[B]

Come on.

[A]

I'm over that. I'm cool.

[B]

Don't do. Yeah, you still got feelings. You still out here. Like, why you gotta do all that? Let it go.

[A]

I. It's so funny because I was in a relationship and I saw my ex. He texted. Well, I was. My boyfriend at the time. He texted his ex a paragraph, like, happy birthday. I know you're doing great, and I. I hope all is well. And I just. There's a whole thing, and I'm like, you still have feelings for this person.

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

Okay, so you find in your girl's phone a bunch of old sex tapes and naked photos of her and her ex, but they're old. I didn't even know. I didn't see Them. These are old, babe. Like, I just forgot to delete them. Red flag or how old? The pictures are old. They're not recent at all. But she still has keeping them in her phone, basically.

[B]

I ain't really. I ain't really tripping off.

[A]

You're not tripping off of that.

[B]

Yeah, I ain't tripping off.

[A]

Okay, okay, okay. You catch your girl liking thirst traps at 2am? Like men doing weird, sexy.

[B]

What you mean?

[A]

Like you see it on Instagram?

[B]

Yeah, I'm not even, like, I'm not even that advanced on Instagram so I can look to see what whoever is like.

[A]

No, but like, what if you go past it and you see like she's all on a man's page liking every pic and it's that 2am you're not tripping off of that. Okay.

[B]

Like, I'm the type of dude that pick my battles. Like, Like, I don't know if that's your brother, I don't know if that's your sister in law's brother, cousin. Like, I'm not gonna just assume nothing right away.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And like, I always feel like, and I say this all the time, that the real truth will come to light. Like, you know, if you consistently doing that in the middle of the night, then I'm gonna have some questions. But if I catch it like once in a blue moon, like, I ain't. Like, I'm cool on all that. Trying to just, like, I'm good on all that stress. I worry about the big things.

[A]

Okay, okay, what about. Okay, what about they go through your phone while you're asleep.

[B]

And what?

[A]

They're just. You catch them, you are sleeping, you wake up and you catch them going through all your shit on your phone.

[B]

I hope you don't find none faster.

[A]

What?

[B]

I mean, what do you want me to do?

[A]

Are you mad? Like, why would you invade my privacy? Why are you going through my phone while I'm asleep? Or are you just like, whatever. Okay.

[B]

Like, we sleep together.

[A]

What do you mean?

[B]

We sleep together, we live together.

[A]

You're in a relationship. Yeah. You sleep with the person and they went through your body.

[B]

Probably have nothing to hide.

[A]

Okay, got you. Um, okay, what about.

[B]

What about you?

[A]

Okay, what is the question?

[B]

If you catch the dude and you wake up, you look over, he gets your phone, like, oh, you gonna be mad?

[A]

No, not really. I'm not gonna be mad. I think that I'm just gonna be like, whatever. Like, if I'm in a relationship and we're together, I doubt that. I Don't think I would be mad at that. I think I would just be like, whatever. I don't care about that. Honestly, I think that for me, obviously, like, do you not trust me? Like, maybe it's a deeper conversation, but hopefully you saw the phone and you didn't find nothing, obviously. So you. You. What's the. Like, I'm not worried about it in that way. I think what I would be more concerned about is, is there a trust issue here?

[B]

Well, maybe he's never done it before. He's just. I just want to be sure.

[A]

He just wants to be extra sure that there's nothing in it.

[B]

I don't want to trust her. I just want to be sure.

[A]

One dime, and that's the answer that I get. Like, so you just wanted to be extra sure and you had your own, like, issues from the past type of thing, then I probably would get it. I'll be like, all right, cool. What about you ask your partner to share locations, and they say no.

[B]

Why not?

[A]

They say, like, I don't like that. I'm old school. I don't do, like that.

[B]

Share location. Like, I think we live in that time.

[A]

Like, yeah. Where everything.

[B]

Yeah, you should. Like, if that's your partner, you should be able to do all that.

[A]

Yeah, but what if you're like, I don't want to do that. Like, what if you wait, like, I.

[B]

Think you got something to hide? You think automatically you lying about where you at. But, like, the location is nothing to me. Like, I could just be at.

[A]

Right. Anyone could be at any location and still be lying. That's my point. Like, I could say that I'm here at dinner with my friend and I'm really with somebody.

[B]

Somebody could pull up to that location at a later date. Like, you know, like, if you had a house, somebody. House.

[A]

Yeah. What if I'm at my house and someone's at home?

[B]

You could be at an apartment building, though. That's the tricky part. You had an apartment building. You say your girl live here. I' ma find out.

[A]

Exactly. There's so many things. It's like, this is my thing about the location thing. If we have to get to that point of the location, it goes back into. Like, you're trying to micromanage the relationship, and you're never going to be able to control where someone is, what they're doing. If someone is going to cheat on you, they're going to cheat on you. If someone's going to do this, they're going to do this. And in my Thing. I'm like, okay, but it makes me feel like, like, damn. Like, do you not. What? Like you trying to control. That's you have. Trying to have a sense of control.

[B]

Unless you're in the middle of an argument and you're doing all this, and I'm like, where you at? Don't worry about it. Like, what was it like?

[A]

Damn, that's wild. Yeah, but it's like, for you to want to just say, let me micromanage everything.

[B]

I'm not trying to break the trust.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. So if someone's like, where are you? I'm here. Like, whatever the case is. Like, you want to FaceTime. Okay. Like. But I think that when you're trying to micromanage or control the situation, like, I've been in past relationships where I have been, like, I want to control everything. I want to see this. I want to see that. But you can do all of that, and a Who's going to cheat is going to cheat on you. It don't matter what you do. Matter of fact, the more pressure you put up on somebody, the more likely they gonna do it because they feel pressurized and they feel like, damn, now you, like, damn near putting it on me. Like, to where I'm about to go do that. Or like, a woman will bring up a girl so often to a man. He wasn't even thinking about her. Now I'm starting to think about the. Now I'm like, dam. Yeah, well, she's in my mind all the time. You pushing somebody to go do some. Like, I feel like a lot of people end up pushing people into the arms of others. And it's like, you gotta lay back. I learned that I used to be uptight, like, and I have to just be like, now that I'm older. When I was young, I used to think you can control. Now I realize you can't control nothing that nobody do. And I'm not trying to do you. I'm not trying to stalk you down.

[B]

Right.

[A]

But anyways, okay, well, that's about it.

[B]

All right, man. We had a good conversation. That was dope, man.

[A]

All right.

[B]

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[A]

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[B]

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[A]

Exactly.

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[A]

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[B]

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[A]

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[A]

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[B]

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[A]

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