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Moneybagg Yo ‘Baby Mama Drama’, $50K A Month To Date Ayisha Diaz, & Seeing Your Ex With Another Lover.
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This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed human. Next Monday, our 2026 iHeart Podcast Awards are happening live at south by Southwest. This is the biggest night in podcasting. We'll honor the very best in podcasting from the past year and celebrate the most innovative talent and creators in the industry. And the winner is. Creativity, knowledge and passion will all be on full display. Thank you so much, iheartradio. Thank you to all the other nominees. You guys are awesome. Watch live next Monday at 8:00pm Eastern, 5:00pm Pacific. Free@veeps.com or the Veeps app. I'm Clayton Eckerd. In 2022, I was the lead of ABC's the Bachelor. But here's the thing. Bachelor fans hated him. If I could press a button and rewind it all, I would. That's when his life took a disturbing turn. A one night stand would end in a courtroom. The media is here. This case has gone viral.
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The dating contract.
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Agree to date me, but I'm also suing you.
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This is unlike anything I've ever seen before.
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I'm Stephanie Young. Listen to Love trapped on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Nancy Glass, host of the Burden of Guilt season two podcast. This is a story about a horrendous lie that destroyed two families. Late one night, Bobby Gumprite became the victim of a random crime. The perpetrator was sentenced to no. 99 years until a confession changed everything. I was a monster. Listen to Burden of guilt Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Ego Woda is your host for the 2026 I Heart podcast Awards live at south by Southwest.
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Hello? Is anybody there?
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Raised by a single mom, Ego may have a few father related issues.
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Are we supposed to talk about your dad?
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Her podcast, thanks dad, is full of funny, heartfelt conversations with actors including Fello, fellow SNL alums, comedians, musicians and more about life and their wonderfully complicated relationships with their fathers. I think and hope that's a good thing. Get to know Aygo, follow Thanks dad with Ago Wodom and start listening on the free iHeartRadio app today. Ready for a different take on Formula One? Look no further than no Grip, a new podcast tackling the culture of motor racing's most coveted series. Join me, Lily Herman as we dive into the underexplored pockets of F1, including the astrology of the current grid, the story of the sport's most consequential driver strike and Plenty of other mishaps, scandals, and sagas that have made Formula One a delightful decadent dumpster fire for more than 75 years. Listen to no Grip on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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You're not afraid to lose somebody. You don't completely love them.
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I agree with that.
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You know what I'm saying?
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I agree with that.
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Like, you know, like, if he sat right in front of you in his casket and you give no shit, because that's pretty much almost what you saying, then you don't really love them or you got this wall of protection wall up. Or it's just something physical. This is the taking over the game. All right, everybody. Welcome to Truth After Dark.
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Do you think that men or women are more toxic. Foreign? Hello, beautiful people. Welcome to another episode of the Truth After Dark. I'm your host, Azar Faraday.
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Your boy, the Truth, Paul Pierce. What's happening?
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What's happening? How are you feeling?
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Good. How you doing?
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I'm cool. I'm all right.
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That's what's up. That's what's up. Yeah, talk to me. What's. What's. What's on tap today?
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What's on tap is just something that I want to touch on first and foremost. That's been happening in our community so often is like, people need to, like. Mental health has been a real issue these days. You know, I just lost somebody to suicide, but this is the third person I've lost to suicide. That's my friend. Not including, like, family. My best friend shot himself in the head when we were 17. You know, I've. And then my friend just shot himself in the head the other day. And so then I just seen like a few more people, like an NFL player, this person that, like, people are killing themselves at a. They say that the rate in which people are killing themselves, especially black men, is at the all time high.
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You think that a lot of that has to do with, like, social media and the pressures of, like. Cause I think now as a community, we got. We're dealing with way more pressures and we pay attention to it. Like, if you look at a high school kid and somebody's bashing them online, they don't know who it is. And yeah, it's like, like it's so many different ways to attack people, and it messes with your mental, especially at a young age. And if you constantly dealing with that for years, the buildup of it, it's just like, man. So I think that a lot of that stuff has to go back toward the home and how you control, like, how do you control that part of someone's life? Because I think social media has a lot to do with it.
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Yeah, I mean, I will say that we have an overload of information online more than ever. And I feel like less people are connecting with nature or touching grass or living in the present moment. And there's a lot of comparison. And I always say comparison is the thief of joy. You go online and you see everybody doing this or everybody doing that, and it just gets to a point where some people are overwhelmed by that and they just feel like they don't want to live anymore. I also feel like we're in a state. State where we're more connected than ever, but more alone than ever. Being isolated is a big thing in this generation because we're so connected via the Internet. It's less interaction. It's less people saying, let's meet up, let's go outside, let's go to the movies, let's go here, let's go there. Because you can sit here and see a whole world in the palm of your hands, so you're less likely to interact. Especially the younger generation, they're so connected via the Internet, but they're so not so isolated. So we're connected more than ever, but we're disconnected more than ever, too. And everything is just like at the tap of your finger. And you can do this and you can do that. And people were now seeking validation more than ever via the Internet, you know, like, oh, I'm feeling sad. I'm going to go on the Internet and do this. But then as soon as that's gone, then you feel empty again, you know, And I feel like we just have lost sight of community and connection in real life and living in the present moment too.
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Yeah, there's more pressure on younger people at a young. I mean, you know, younger people than it has been before.
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Yeah, for sure.
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Because when you didn't have no worries, no cell phones, and everybody was outside, enjoyed the little things in life.
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Yeah, it's different.
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It's different now to where you look at your peers, you look at kids your age and, and cyberbullying and all of those things, it's just like, damn. So how, as a parent, do you control that with your kids? How do you limit that access to social media until what age? Because actually, when you think about the people are older committing suicide. But I think it's the buildup from childhood and the social media error that gets to them. The pressures of the world is more than ever because of what we read and what we see from other people. That's not real. Stuff that's not real is affecting us.
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And you know what else it is? It's like, people go through breakups and stuff, and then you go to their Instagram and they look so happy, and they're posting like they're living their best life, and then you see them with a new person and see them in a new relationship, and it's all this stuff when you don't really know how someone's really feeling on the inside, but it can look like that while you're in the bed depressed, you go and see, oh, this person. Like, I deal with friends right now that are going through breakups and they're depressed and they're in the bed every day, and they go look at the person's Instagram and they're out living their best life, and they look like nothing has phased them. And they're posting subliminals and all this stuff, and it's like, damn. Like, it's even harder to go through a breakup. It's harder to be in a relationship. It's. Everything is so much harder because of social media. There's a lot of positive sides of social media, too, but I will say that, like, those aspects of it can make it more difficult. You know what I mean? Because we're so. We can stay connected with people we have no business staying connected to. Like, I shouldn't have to see what you're up to. Like, especially if you're trying to heal from something or you're trying to, like, go somewhere. Like, it's. It's difficult, you know, and it's like, before I was on social media, like, and I had to do a career on social media, I would deactivate my Instagram all the time. Like, I would be off of Instagram all the time because I just would feel like I just need a break. Like, I need to force myself to feel present in the world. So, like, if you don't have to use social media as a career, I really suggest that you take some time off of it. Like, give yourself a week.
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Yeah.
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And just get off of social media in general.
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Yeah. You see how it's affected Kai Sinai.
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Yeah.
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He's going through all that, and he's talked about it, and I think a lot of his was probably based on social media or streaming. That's all the world that he lived in.
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Yeah. He didn't live in the real life
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doing it every day. Constantly being this way and constantly interacting with the world, showing your life, every second of it, and it's just like, dang, you just got to the point to where it didn't feel like real life, I guess.
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Yeah.
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And then when you just, like, put it down, it's just like, you like, what? What do I have? What's been going on?
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Yeah.
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And it's like, damn, I couldn't imagine living that lifestyle. Because you look at him, he's made a lot of money. He's. He's successful at what he did. One of the biggest streamers in all of the world. But now he's just not happy.
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Yeah. And, you know, like, people, they make fun of him for talking about his mental health and stuff. And also, too, in the same breath, it's like we sit on Instagram and we only see the good sides of everybody. You only share your highlight reel of all the good shit. That's why, even for me, I make an effort to be, like, vulnerable and honest. Like, I go through dark places I go. I struggle with shit all the time in my own mental health, and it's, like, important to highlight that. But when you do, people make fun of you or they're one. They're saying you're seeking attention or you want this, when in reality, a lot of people want to do it because they want to show you, like, everything ain't what it looks like. There is moments in your life where even me, I have to come upon this podcast and have a conversation, and I'm not in the best mental place. I want to break down. I want to cry. I want to. I don't feel good, but I have to do it because I've made a commitment to do this. So there's moments where, you know, like, you got to do things when you're not in the best mental space. And I, for not. Like, people always hit me up, like, oh, you're so pretty. You're this, you're that, you're popping. And it's like, I be one of people to know. Like, I have my shit, too. Like, I go through shit all the time.
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I think you should express it, though. I think, you know, people see the popping part of you on social media, but they need to see the other side, too. Like, you dealt with, you know, a friend going through suicide. I think you should really go on and express that. Like, let them see how you really feel. Let them, you know, when you do that, you humanize.
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Yeah, for sure.
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You know, you don't look like this big aura that people look at you as, like, oh, she's goals. She's, you know, who I want to be. But, like, dude, you gotta be vulnerable.
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But I do. And that's the thing. I'm very vulnerable. And the people who actually follow me and be around me, they know that. And I feel like I always want to be that way because my whole goal is to, like, share. Like, when I was lacking confidence. And I still struggle with my own insecurities and the things that I go through. When I went through that, I really didn't have anybody to lean on, really. And I feel like the whole point of me starting this journey was to be someone that a young girl can look at and understand. Like. Like, you know, you could get through this. There's things that are difficult, but you can. You can push through anything, you know, and there's so many women now that look to me for advice and mentorship. And I want to always show those moments that are not always good, you know, And I. And I. And I make sure to try and do that. And even in moments that I've had, there is people that are like, oh, you just want attention, or you. What's wrong with you? You don't have anything. Like, people assume you just because you may have this or you look this way or you have this, you don't have nothing. It's like, one thing I could tell you is you could strive to look like the most beautiful woman in the world, and you can still have the darkest heart, you know? Like, you can strive to be the most rich person in the world, and you can still be lonely and feel empty. Like, these are all things that happen. And I have been vulnerable and open about, you know, I've never been someone who has a big support system and a big circle of people. And a lot of, like, I've moved through life alone in a lot of ways, and I've dealt with feeling like, you know, I'm facing things by myself a lot. And I don't. Because I didn't go to high school like that. So in a school where I had all these things, like, I don't have this large group of homegirls, and I don't have all of that stuff, you know, that a lot of people have. And for me, it's like, I don't have the biggest support system. The people I have, I'm very grateful for. But, you know, I've moved through life feeling alone a lot, you know, and I've been open about that. And I just always want to Encourage people who feel that way. Like there's light at the end of the tunnel, you know, and there's. There's. You gotta. You gotta change your thought process. Like, every time you have a negative thought, think of something positive and replace it. That's how you train your mind and train your subconscious mind to just be more positive. And, like, you really gotta live that.
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I think people who are going through depression, the best thing for that is just like, yeah, be vulnerable, number one, express it. But then I think routine helps.
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Yeah, for sure.
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You have to find something that you like and kind of like, use that as a method to kind of cope. Whatever you're going through, whether that's go to the gym for a certain few
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hours a day, for sure.
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Or go to church or take a walk or something that you're into or a hobby. Find a hobby that you can just get your mind off of things. And I agree, busy. I think it helps with the process of getting through or actually having somebody to talk to. Who's that one person? And if you don't have nobody to talk to, you know, I think, you know, if you're not religious, it's just like, find somebody. Like, find somebody that you can express it to. And if that's not a person who's there, use that. Use the social media to talk to, turn off the comments and just be vulnerable. Just express yourself.
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Yeah.
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And let it all out and just be like, man, world, this is who I am.
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Yeah.
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Like it or not, you know, or
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get a therapist that I've shown you.
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Yeah, that's really not me, but this is me giving myself to the world. And once you let it out, I think you'll start the process of coming back to reality. Because when you're in a depressed state of mind, you're not in reality because you start thinking of things and thinking about suicide and thinking about, you know, just too many negative things. So I just.
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Yeah, I agree.
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You gotta do a number of things to just snap out of it.
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Yeah. And people who struggle with real depression. I know. I don't wanna be insensitive because it is hard for people. It's a real mental. I don't know, I don't want to call it illness, maybe mental illness, but it is something that people deal with and they can't get themselves out of that place a lot of time. But like, you know, like you said, I think having a routine about yourself, forcing yourself sometimes to get out of that funk and just get up and do things, it's hard. But you know, you could do it. And I, I get it. Like, you know, and I think too, like, even for me, it's hard when you go through these things because sometimes you don't want to burden the people that you're with and you don't want people to feel like, burdened by like your issues or your sorrow. So you keep it to yourself or you carry it yourself or if you're someone like me, like, I'm a positive life for a lot of people. And like, people love my energy, my aura when I'm this. And so if I'm down or I'm not in a space, my energy is so strong that everybody feels it. And it's like, what's wrong? What's wrong? Because they expect me to be in that space 24 7. And it's like, that has been a burden on me. Cuz sometimes I'm like, I can't perform for you right now. I can't be this person. Like, I'm tired, I don't feel good. Like, but then, and then, then you feel the guilt of the other person feeling like, well, what's wrong with you? Like, why aren't you? And it's like, then you try to force yourself to get back into that vibe because they're expecting you to show up in a certain way, you know? And even in relationships, I feel like when you're someone who has been alone a lot and you find someone that you can, you feel like you can trust and you can talk to and you can be around, that's a really scary feeling too, because as someone who's been abandoned a lot or a lot, or you know, like hurt by people that were supposed to love you the most is scary. To put your trust in someone and be so vulnerable with someone and be open because you always have the things, the thought in your mind, like, I could lose this person. And then when I lose this person, I'm going to be so devastated, you know? Like, so I've noticed with me, I haven't. Even if I'm in a relationship, like, I don't fully. Like, I'm always a little bit scared because I'm like, oh my God, like, I love this person. This is scary. The most overwhelming feeling for me is fear when I love someone, when. And it sucks because you want to be in the present moment and you want to love them and you want to be there, but you're also nervous because you're like, if I fall into this too deeply and this ends, I'm gonna be so Devastated, you know, so that's like a really scary feeling that I deal with because I'm like, I don't have a lot of people, and when I meet someone I trust and I love that, I feel like is like family or home to me. And then that thought of, like, I could lose this person, it makes you, like, hold back a little bit because you're like, I can't give them all of me because then I'm scared, you know, like, because things end, you know, even if you don't want them to at times. And, and it's just, it sucks. But it's a, it's a reality. And I feel like that's hard, you know? So, yeah, I think you just have to find things that you love that don't involve other people or depending on anyone sometimes, you know, like things that are just that you have a level of control over, you know, whether that's like a hobby or a community based sport, like something of that nature that you do, that you love, that you can get. I think that that's important. But I just hate to see, like, all these people killing themselves. It's just, it's just really sad to me. And I have a homegirl who told me literally two days ago that she wants to kill herself. And I've been talking to her every second because I'm so scared, because I've did, I've done this. I've lost multiple friends. My best friend killed himself, shot himself in the head. So, like, I, I, I've, I've dealt with this a lot. And I do not. My best friend and my sister's best friend both shot themselves in the head. And I've dealt with this a lot. So I, when people tell me that, I take it very seriously. And like, I plan on going to her house and cooking for her and cleaning her house and helping her. Like, be there for your friends when they need you. For real?
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Yeah, for sure. For sure.
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So anyways, that was a deep moment, but let's move on to something more light.
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Yeah, that was deep.
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Okay. So anyways, Dr. Sarah Fonteno, our girl.
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Yeah.
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And Wheezy and Mandy all did a podcast together, which I've been seeing the clips, and I love it. So there's a viral clip of Wheezy basically saying, and she's in a relationship, but she basically says she isn't afraid to lose a man. Like, she don't give a damn. She's not afraid to lose a man. She's okay if he wants to go to lunch one on one with another woman.
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He.
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She don't care about none of that.
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And he could go to dinner with another woman.
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That's what she said. Yeah.
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Oh, yeah.
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But, you know, they be awesome.
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Different types of some, like, you know, intertwined.
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Wheezy and Mandy. Well said. I mean, they said the same thing. And Dr. Sarah was like, absolutely not. Like, if you have to go to dinner with a girl for whatever reason, like, come to my house. Come over to our house. I'll cook for y'. All. Y' all can have whatever conversation you need to have. If it's like, a bit like a friend that you supposedly have or whatever. Like, you shouldn't be separate from us. Like, any homegirl or anything you think is, like, she coming into town, I'm there. Or come over to our house and we'll cook or whatever the case is. And we just like, no, I'm not afraid to lose a man. I don't care. And then Dr. Sarah's like, well, that's the problem.
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Yeah.
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And so it's this whole thing now they're going back and forth. And, like, their podcast was funny because they're so opposite. Like, the Dr. Sarah and, like, Wheezy and Mandy or whatever the case is, because Mandy never wants to be married. You know, she likes to have an open relationship. She doesn't want kids. She doesn't want any of that stuff. And she's very clear on that. You know what I mean? And she wants, like, you know, multiple partners or whatever the case may be, which, in my opinion, if that's what you want, that's what you want. Like, I don't believe that we should argue down people to change the way that they want to live. Like, I'm not here to convince you that that's not the life for you. Like, if you feel like that's the life for you, then that's the life for you. Like, I don't think that we should be in the business of convincing people to change the things that they feel work for them. You know what I mean? Like, you've been through certain things in life that makes you feel like that's how you wanna roll, then do that.
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Yeah. I don't think, like, when Weezy is talking like that, I think it's hard for her to be completely, 100% in love with that person. It's always like, if. If you feel that way, that your partner can go have lunch with another girl. It's either a couple things. Y' all are in an open relationship.
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Yeah.
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Or you don't really fully 90, 100% love that person. If you're not. If you're not afraid to lose somebody, you don't completely love him.
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I agree with that.
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You know what I'm saying?
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I agree with that.
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Like, you know, like if he sat right in front of you in his casket and you give no shit. Cause that's pretty much almost what you saying. Then you don't really love them or you got this wall up protection. Wall up. Or it's just something physical.
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Do you feel like there you could. Sometimes you don't realize, like, until you're about to lose someone that you're afraid to lose them. Like, sometimes does it take for you to be about to lose someone? For a person to be like, oh, my God, I do not wanna lose this person. Cause I feel like sometimes it may take for you to realize, like, I could lose this person. For you to then realize, like, oh, shit. You know what I mean?
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Yeah, that's a tough one. Because like, when you like thinking like that or something happens to where you could lose that person, most likely it's something you did. Yeah.
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Cause you weren't afraid to lose up. So then you did it.
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And now, now you're about to lose them and now you like, oh, I fucked up.
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Yeah.
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You know, but you wasn't thinking that when you was fucking up. So I don't know, it's like, it's a lot of cases to where when you about to lose them, you do everything you can. And then you gotta go through it. If you're not willing to go through it when you're about to lose that person, like, you gonna have to get dragged to get them back. If that's what it takes. If you really love them, you really. You'll get dragged to get them back.
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Even though there's some points where a woman will tell you, like, I'm really done. Like there's nothing you can do.
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You can see it. You know, you could be in a relationship a whole year or two before it ends, and it's been done. You know, it's been done. Like you've been that person five years, but it was done three years.
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Yeah. Yeah, I've been there. Yeah, I've been there.
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But y' all just together because that's what y' all been used to.
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And you afraid to go through that pain of really separating. So you're just like going through it. Cause you're like, I'm gonna hurt to be with you and it's gonna hurt to leave You. So I'm just gonna stay.
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Cause you're afraid of what's next.
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What's next is scary because this. I know what this is. It's predictable. I know what's gonna happen. We're gonna go through this. We're gonna fight. We're gonna be whatever. We'll have a few one, two cool days. But go, like leaving. I don't know. It's uncertain. I don't know what's gonna happen next. Am I gonna end up alone? Am I gonna meet anyone that I actually like ever again? Am I gonna. Like, what is that gonna look like? And a lot of the time when you're going through that and when you lose someone, you highlight so many good things about them. Even if you knew the relationship was trash and you're like, damn, like, am I ever gonna have anybody else? You know, there's. There's that feeling, you know, where, you know, will I ever like someone this much again? Or whatever the case is, Even though you knew that relationship has been over, like, because there's so much contention. Like, there's one thing to, like, go through stuff with your partner, but there's another thing when, you know, like, this just nothing is working. Like, we always got something. It's always a fight. It's always this. It's always that.
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In our relationship, it was over, you know. You know, you go through your ups and downs, but when it's officially over, for me as a man, when it started getting disrespectful.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Like. Like all the other stuff I can deal with, like being mad and holding back sex and, you know, not, you know, just not going on dates and not doing stuff. But when it started getting disrespectful, that's when, you know, it was over. All the other stuff I can deal with.
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Yeah. When a woman gets disrespectful, she's. She. She's cool.
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Yeah, it's over.
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See, because she. And you have to realize, too, even as a person, if someone's being this disrespectful to you, there is no relationship anyways because they don't respect you. And, you know, there gets to a point where even if you're not a bad person, the person views you as, like, so, like, they look at you like such a fucked up, horrible human being, and you're like, man, I don't even want to be with someone that I have to fight against the fact that I'm really actually not this fucked up person. I made some mistakes and And I made some poor decisions, but I don't even want to be with someone who views me so low down. Like, you think of me so horribly. What's the point? Now? I'm just going to be exhausted trying to prove that I'm worthy, that I'm not that messed up to you. And it's like, that's exhausting for both of us at that point. You might as well go find someone else that you actually look at in a better light.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Because once you start to look at me like, I'm just horrible, what are we doing? Like, once I look at you like, oh, you're just this, you're that, you're that. Because the chances are is like, people make mistakes in relationships, but once you get past that threshold of, like, what you can take, then it starts to get disrespectful. And you don't even view that person in a light in which you, like, what's the point? The only reason we're staying now is the fear of what's on the other side of letting go.
- [27:52]
B
Yeah. Yep. That is true. You know, you stay, you hold on for too long.
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A
You hold on for too long because you afraid of. Of what's next and what's letting go. But then you do so much damage in that time that you stay, you damage yourself.
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B
It goes from disrespect to now when y' all break up, it turns into resentment.
- [28:10]
A
Yeah, it turns into resentment for sure. It returns into resentment.
- [28:14]
B
You like, damn.
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A
And God forbid, it's even worse when you have to have kids with that person, like, and deal with them forever. Like, me personally, I don't have that. So it's like, you can resent someone, but then you don't have to deal with them. So now you over it. Like, in a few years, you could see that person be like, what's up? Like, we cool? I don't have no beef. Like, I don't care because I don't have to deal with you. But see, you do more damage to yourself when you stay because you hurt yourself more and you hurt the other person. And then you get in another relationship, and that starts to pour over, and it's like, damn, I done stayed too long that I damaged my mind. Because I'm thinking, now this is how people act. Now I'm getting disrespected. Now I'm on the defense. Now I feel a certain type of way in my new relationship.
- [28:56]
B
Right.
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A
I think that we gotta learn how to let go quicker.
- [29:00]
B
Well, it's hard when you Build a strong foundation. It's hard.
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A
It's very hard.
- [29:04]
B
It's hard to break the building down. You know, you didn't.
- [29:06]
A
It's very hard.
- [29:07]
B
Something you didn't build over the years, and it's hard to let it go.
- [29:11]
A
It's hard to walk away. Yeah, it's really hard. And again, I think starting over is. It's hard, and it's scary, like, to have to be like, I'm going to start over and be in a. Like, be alone and figure my shit out.
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B
Especially for women.
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A
Yeah.
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B
It's really hard for women than it is for men. I believe.
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A
I believe that, yeah, 100%, because I've seen men get out of long relationships and be with the next woman right then and there.
- [29:38]
B
Well, maybe not in a relationship, but, like, we'll use women to kind of, like, cover up our pain.
- [29:44]
A
Yeah, for sure.
- [29:44]
B
You know where a woman will go through it a little bit more than a man.
- [29:47]
A
Yeah.
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B
Like, won't go out.
- [29:50]
A
Yeah.
- [29:50]
B
You know, then you got other women who will date and go out, but, like, for the most part, it's more men that say, all right, I'm. The next day, I'm outside.
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A
Yeah. And you know how hard that is. I was telling, like, social media, like, as a woman, when you break up with someone and you're, like, in the bed depressed, and you go look and you see this man outside. Like, I remember when me and my ex broke up. I'm sad I broke up with him. But you're still sad. Like, I had to let go. Like, this was blowing me. And you're outside, and you people are so messy. They're calling you. Oh, I saw da, da, da, da outside with, like, oh, girl. And they was. And then it's like, what? Like, you just feel so bad. You're like, damn, I was nothing to you. Like, you just got another woman. But what I noticed is with me, it'd be, like, a few months. And then, like, in a few months, by the time you do your healing and, like, I go through my sad depression, then I get up and I'm going back into the gym, and I'm feeling myself again, and I feel good. I'm doing the inner work. And by the time I'm back hitting it and I'm dating a new man, then you calling me, then you're like, babe, like, I love you so much. I'll never forget. I remember I was, like, wanting my ex to, like, you know, you want someone to fight for you even if you're done. You always Want to feel like you're fighting for me.
- [31:04]
B
It's hard to fight for somebody. After the disrespect, though. Like. Like, you know, in my relationships, I wanted to fight. Yeah, but, like, the disrespect, the constant every day being disrespectful. Like, I was disrespectful once. Like, and it's not. But the constant disrespect is hard to fight back.
- [31:24]
A
No, I get that, and I understand that. But I think you get as a woman, you're like, damn, you want someone to fight, and then you. They miss the. They missed the opportunity in order to do it. And so I remember I was. I broke up. Da, da, da, da. Everyone, oh, he's hitting it, this, that. I'm sad, I'm crying. And then I remember I got a whole new man. And the night my new man was like, I love you, my old man, I don't know what it was. That man started blowing my line down. I love you. I want to be with you. I'm so sorry. And I'm like, oh, it's too late now. I got a whole new man. I'm. I'm good. Like, once you move on me, I'm never doubling back on anybody I ever been with. I never have done that, and I'm never doing that, like, once I get over you. Because the chances are is I probably feel fought so hard, and I exhausted all resources, and I tried and tried. So once I really walk away and I decide to, like, go through that healing and be sad and go through all of that, I'm not putting myself through that again. We tried it. We did it. It didn't hit. I can't come back to that. Like, at that point, I'm done. And it doesn't matter whether you still want me to this day. Like, I can't. I can't try again with no man I've been with because I just don't. I don't. It's too much happening there.
- [32:42]
B
I get it.
- [32:43]
A
Chances are so much happened. I'm cool.
- [32:46]
B
You cool?
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A
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- [34:19]
B
I think it was something with his baby mama.
- [34:21]
A
Yeah. So basically, he went to see his baby mom, I guess, and the baby mama has a new man, and the new man bought her this house and all this. And he's kicking it, chilling at the new house with his baby mama.
- [34:34]
B
I'm doing that, though. They don't live together.
- [34:36]
A
They do, but he wasn't there. He was, like, out of town. So he sees on the camera, you kicking it. What? You coming over here kicking it with your baby mama, chilling for.
- [34:44]
B
That's bogus.
- [34:45]
A
That's blowing me. So the man is hot. So the man goes to Instagram, like, what? Like, you in my house? And he's, like, tripping off the baby mom. Like, you left this man at my house. And y' all are. It's not even about the kid picking it up. Dropping the kid. Like, you chilling on my couch, kikiing and kicking it in my house with, like. That's out of pocket.
- [35:06]
B
That is out of pocket for her.
- [35:08]
A
Yeah. She's wrong.
- [35:10]
B
Yes. Super wrong. If this dude got you in a new house.
- [35:13]
A
Yeah. Why are you kicking it with your baby mama anyways? Why are you kicking it with your baby daddy? Why y' all kicking it?
- [35:19]
B
Hold on, hold on, hold on. He just came over to get the. The kid.
- [35:21]
A
He should have just came over to get the kid.
- [35:23]
B
But that was his. That was what he came over to do.
- [35:25]
A
Yeah.
- [35:26]
B
Yeah, okay. That's what he came over to do to get the kid. So it should just be a quick transaction. If you got another man, but he's
- [35:34]
A
chilling there for hours.
- [35:36]
B
Hours.
- [35:36]
A
Yeah. He was at the house kicking it with the girl. You kicking it. There's no reason you should kick it. Get the kid and hit it.
- [35:42]
B
They got cameras in the house.
- [35:43]
A
Yeah.
- [35:44]
B
Oh, he saw that.
- [35:45]
A
He saw.
- [35:45]
B
Oh, okay. Okay. Well, she knew that.
- [35:48]
A
Maybe she didn't. We don't know if she knew. People don't always know if they have cameras in the house.
- [35:52]
B
Yeah, she knew. If you live there, you know, if there's cameras in the house.
- [35:55]
A
You don't know always. So people can.
- [35:57]
B
There's cameras. Not in the house. There's cameras outside. Seeing you coming in.
- [36:00]
A
Right. And then seeing you leaving.
- [36:01]
B
Yeah.
- [36:02]
A
Why are you kicking it? No, that's disrespectful. So then she came out and basically said, oh, I'm not messing with you because you're gay. And I found out that you're gay
- [36:17]
B
while he was out of town.
- [36:19]
A
Who knows? These people are crazy.
- [36:21]
B
Oh, my God.
- [36:22]
A
Yeah. So she basically called him gay and said, he's on the DL or whatever.
- [36:27]
B
Wow. And they were together at the time?
- [36:30]
A
Yeah, they're together. She.
- [36:31]
B
So that's over. You just broke up? We just broke up.
- [36:34]
A
Well, you broke up when you was kicking it with the baby mama and baby daddy in my house, so. We was already broken up at that point. He was done with her. He was already like, hey, so what do that mean?
- [36:42]
B
Do he gotta get her up out of there?
- [36:43]
A
Yeah. And he also bought her a Range Rover.
- [36:46]
B
I need that.
- [36:46]
A
And so he was like, if y' all see my car in the streets, call, like, report it. Cause I need my car back.
- [36:52]
B
I need the car.
- [36:53]
A
He posted a picture of her in the car with the roses. He bought her the car with the roses. I need that back. I need everything back.
- [37:00]
B
Yeah, I need that back. It's probably in his name anyway, so he ain't tripping. He get home, call, and then he
- [37:05]
A
puts the receipt up where he's playing for the private school of Moneybagg Yo's kids.
- [37:09]
B
It's time to go public.
- [37:10]
A
2,500amonth. He's like, I'm paying some people's rent for the private school. And this is yo child, Moneybagg yo who got money and you not paying it. And I'm paying for the school. Like, I don't know how a woman could fumble. Like, women.
- [37:25]
B
That's tough.
- [37:26]
A
You're trifling for that. I'mma keep it real.
- [37:28]
B
Damn.
- [37:28]
A
But based off of how she looks and her Instagram and everything, again, don't
- [37:34]
B
base everything off looks, though.
- [37:36]
A
No, no, no. It's. I can. Yeah, it's based off of your actions and how you're moving. You half naked. You got 20 surgeries. You trying to catch him, the next best man with money. Yeah, you. You base it off of that. I' ma base it off of that. Like, I could tell a type of woman you can. Like, at the end of the day, I knew that she looks. You should have known that. This is my problem with men. You get these type of woman who got a rapper, baby daddy, and. And it's on Instagram. How you think you got her? And now you mad cause she did exactly what she meant to do.
- [38:07]
B
You mad.
- [38:08]
A
You knew. You knew. You knew. This is what happens with men again. Y' all get with these women and think that you're different. You ain't special. She's showing you exactly what type of woman she is.
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B
Right all on there, right there.
- [38:21]
A
You could see that, like, there's different calibers of women, and we have to stop pretending that there's not. Like, let's stop pretending that, like, women get mad at me. Like, I had some whole only fans. Girl was blowing me, like, one time, like, going off. Cause she. She messed with one of my exes one time, and because I said something about, like, women being prostitutes, she was going in, like, trying to run shit. And I'm like, girl, it is what it is. You're a hoe. I don't know what else you want me to tell you. Like, you mad at me? Cause I'm calling it how I said. See it. Like, I'm a different caliber of woman than you. If you decide that I'm better than you, that's your opinion. I didn't say that. I'm different, though. I'm a different type of woman. And I'm not in the same lane as you. We're not in the same league. We're not in the same category. If you decipher that as me saying I'm better than you, that's what you said, not me.
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B
Right?
- [39:13]
A
I'm not. I'm. I'm just letting you know I am a different type of caliber than you. I don't choose to let anybody with 999 to be able to see inside of my booty hole. Okay? I don't let anybody with $3 a month get to see me shake my ass. Matter of fact, you do that shit for free on Instagram. Okay? I'm not that type of woman. Stop being mad at me, because that's what you decide to do. That's the life. You decide to leave. Leave. I feel good about who I am as a woman. I go to sleep at night knowing that you can't see my body for a few dollars. I feel good about that. But you should feel good about what you're doing, too. If you don't feel good about it, you should reevaluate your lifestyle, baby. That's on you.
- [39:55]
B
You know what I learned about women and breakup based on, you know, I'm listening to you and how you feel about the next woman that got with your ex. I swear, every woman, when they break up with that man, and when that man get with the next girl, she either she ain't she ugly or she a hoe. No matter what she look like.
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A
No, no, no, I don't.
- [40:15]
B
No matter what she looks, she be the baddest girl on the planet. Oh, she ugly.
- [40:18]
A
That's not true, though.
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B
Or she a hoe.
- [40:20]
A
That's not true, though. The woman who I'm talking about, I
- [40:22]
B
swear, I'm saying you. I'm just saying in general. That's what I always do.
- [40:26]
A
Let me tell you the truth. The type of person I am is like, I will give credit when credit is due. Even. Even if a man that I've been with.
- [40:34]
B
What?
- [40:35]
A
No, because chances are, though. But I give credit where credit is due. Like, I've been with men and they have beautiful exes, and I'm like. I will literally say, like, oh, she's fly. She cool. She was. She was bomb. And then I've seen some of my exes and their baby mom or this
- [40:50]
B
not even about the look. Like, y'. All. Y' all go and look like, what if she ain't up to your level of looks? But she doing things you wasn't doing. So that's probably why he was.
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A
Yeah, that's cool. I'm not mad at that. It's not just about.
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B
Y' all are bashed because of the look.
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A
I'm not gonna bash. Cause I don't care.
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B
You will, though. You will if you saw your ex out with somebody that was like, oh, she ain't me, but you don't know she ain't you because you going off her look. You don't know what you say, what's going for that, man? I get what you say. He probably shrubs down every night. Cook doing all these things you wasn't doing. But you gonna just from the outside looking in, you gonna say, she wasn't me doing all this girl, honey, look at her.
- [41:29]
A
I'm gonna say this, but she is. I'm just doing more. I wasn't perfect in my relationships at all, in no way, shape or form, but I know that I gave a lot and I gave my all. So whether she's doing all this, I know what I was doing. So you could look crazy, and I know that I was doing X, Y and Z. And. But the crazier it looks. Let me tell you why it looks crazier. This is why men look crazy.
- [41:51]
B
Don't look. Look crazy to you?
- [41:53]
A
Yes, because you're hitting me up. Still begging for to be with me. So she looks crazy and you look crazy.
- [41:58]
B
Still hitting you up.
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A
I just told you what's up.
- [42:01]
B
Emails hitting you up. You so contradictory. They usually.
- [42:05]
A
Yeah, they do.
- [42:06]
B
So you keeping up?
- [42:07]
A
No, I just told you that my exes. Every three to six months, one of. One of my exes is going to hit me on WhatsApp and email. I just said that. Like, they. They do that. Like, they do that. They be like, oh, I wish what we had. Iran is in the war. Making me feel like, are you safe? Like, you know, dumb. I'm just making that up because I see the meme like that. But, you know, men come with dumb shit all the time where they're like, I just miss us and everything that we've been through. Like, men are going to come with that bullshit six months and every six months, quarterly, they're going to come with that. Like, that's all I'm saying. So if you do have a new girlfriend, it makes y' all look crazy. That's why I don't want to be with a man who's hitting an ex or anybody up trying to say anything at all. Because then I look stupid. Because they look stupid to me. I'm like, y', all, he's still trying to hit me up. They look stupid to me. You look stupid and I look stupid. If my man is doing that to their ex, it looks stupid to everyone. Like, I don't want that. I want. I don't like that. So that's why women think men look stupid, because they be hitting us up. Still asking for this and that.
- [43:12]
B
All right, so listen, go ahead. I'm gonna break this down. What you said. This is what you said. You said, Joe, men be hitting you up looking stupid because they got girlfriends.
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A
No, I don't know if they have a girlfriend. You said maybe they do or they don't. I don't know for sure.
- [43:27]
B
But how they looking stupid?
- [43:28]
A
But I'm saying, you just said, if I had seen them out with another woman, and I'm like, oh, she doesn't look like this. The only way I would say she looks stupid is because in my mind, I'm like, your man is still hitting me up all the time. You look stupid. Like, that's what looks stupid.
- [43:41]
B
You never seen your ex out with another girl? Never.
- [43:45]
A
My ex see me out, but I never see my ex out.
- [43:48]
B
Oh, yeah, I have.
- [43:50]
A
I've never seen that before. I would. Like, I would not care. Like, I don't have no feelings for none of my exes. I would not care at all. It would never make me feel away at all. Like, okay, cool. I love that for you. And if she was drop dead gorgeous.
- [44:05]
B
All right.
- [44:05]
A
I love that for you.
- [44:06]
B
Exile. Another girl, Would you speak?
- [44:09]
A
No, I'm not speaking. I don't have nothing to say. Like, I'm not speaking. If I. You weren't with another girl. I'm not speaking regardless. So you could be with another girl or not. I'm not going to speak to my ex. If I see them out regardless.
- [44:20]
B
Yeah.
- [44:21]
A
Like, for just a bunch of different reasons. Like, I don't have. I don't have no beef with none of my exes. I don't have no beef. I just don't fuck with y'. All. We're not together anymore. I don't have. If we don't have kids, there's no reason.
- [44:32]
B
The question is this, okay? If you women or men, you see your girl or your guy out and they. What they do, will you speak? And I'm talking about the guy is with his girl and they with they new girl, or say, like, you see your ex with another dude, will you speak to her? Cause, like, me, I'm not. I mean, I'm not. I don't really care. I'm not even really tripping, you know what I'm saying? But, like, for the woman, what I noticed is, like, when I seen my ex out when I was with somebody and they was with somebody and I was ignoring it, I was just like, you know, I didn't even look. But then, hey, every time you turn, you see them looking at you. You like, damn, like, what the hell? Yeah, like, why you. Oh, let me turn my back.
- [45:27]
A
Like, damn, I feel like that's awkward for, like.
- [45:31]
B
No, no, no, no, no.
- [45:32]
A
I'm saying I feel like I don't want to be in the situation where I'm the girl and the ex is staring over. Like, I would want someone to tell me, like, yo, that's my ex. They're over there with this. Because I'm not gonna be sitting here looking like. She's looking like, I don't like that little shit. Tell me me what's up. Like, that's. That's. If it's your real ex. Like, if it's someone you just dated, whatever. But, like, if that's my ex, like, if I'm out with my man and I see my for real ex that I was with for years, I'm gonna be like, that's my ex right there. I'mma say that.
- [46:01]
B
Yeah.
- [46:01]
A
If it's someone I dated real quick or whatever. No, but if it's my ex, I'm gonna be like, that's my ex right there. Probably, but it just depends. Because if it's just in passing for two seconds, then I might not say nothing at all. Like, if we're walking in, walk out. But if it's like, we're all sitting right there and they're on the other side and he's staring over here like, that's crazy. This is my ex. They're tripping. But I have seen my ex has seen me out with somebody. Yeah. Like, my. And they. He talked and spoke, you know what I mean? And said a lot of shit. And I was just like, what?
- [46:30]
B
Like, he was with your new dude?
- [46:32]
A
I was just on a date. But he didn't realize, you know.
- [46:35]
B
Okay, okay.
- [46:36]
A
So it was just like, you know what I'm saying? Like, he didn't know that I was with that person. So he was just saying, like, God sent me you here today as, like, all this stuff, and it just felt so wild to me. But I think that at the end of the day, like, I'm not. I don't care if my ex has a new girlfriend, and she's Beyonce, the baddest bitch in America. Good for you. I'm really happy for her.
- [46:57]
B
You're gonna be like, damn, I fumbled.
- [46:59]
A
I would never think I fumbled any of my exes. That sounds stupid as hell.
- [47:02]
B
They're like, how he got that all.
- [47:03]
A
No, no, no. I don't think that I. I would literally, just literally be like, cool.
- [47:08]
B
Damn, he just upgraded.
- [47:10]
A
No, I'm not tripping off of that. I'm telling you. Like, I think that what. No matter how the woman looks, no matter what, if it's someone that was in alignment with you and we couldn't work it out, I'm happy for you. Like, everyone deserves love. Like, I don't have no bitterness or resentment in my heart.
- [47:25]
B
Yeah.
- [47:25]
A
Because the opposite of love is not hate. It's indifference. So for me, when you hate someone, you still have feelings for them. You still. You still care. I don't have no hate for you. I'm indifference. I don't care. I'm indifferent. Whatever. You got a girlfriend. Good for you. I'm actually happy for you. Like, real shit. Like, good for you. I don't care.
- [47:45]
B
I'm indifference. Because, like, ain't no happy. I ain't.
- [47:47]
A
It's not happy. I'm not. But it's like, I'm not out. And I'm just like, oh, this has made me so upset. He got a batter. Like, good for you. My, like, cool. I'm do your big one. You cool. Like, I don't have no feelings for none of my exes at all. Like, there's no feelings there whatsoever. Like, just period. Like, it was over when it was over.
- [48:08]
B
Right.
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You know what I mean? So there's a viral meme that says relationship red flags. Right? So here are some of them. Tell me some of yours. But one. The first one is actually still cool with your ex. I don't fuck with that. That's a red flag for me, too.
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B
Still cool with your ex.
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A
Yeah. Love bombing. Someone said all her friends being single is a red flag.
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B
Someone else said that's not a red flag, though. That's just unfortunate for her friends. Yeah.
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A
That's how I feel, too. Phone screen being turned down. They said that's a red flag. Someone who's fresh out of a relationship. That's a red flag to do what?
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B
To be in a relationship with him.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Okay.
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A
These are all relationship red flags.
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B
Okay.
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A
And someone who's, like, super entitled. Those are just some of them that the people named. Do you have any?
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B
Yeah, I hate a female who. I mean, or a woman. Whatever y' all want to call it. Whatever. But I don't know what y' all is these days.
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A
See what I'm saying?
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She's an entitled.
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A
Yeah. I hate an entitlement.
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Oh, my God. You know. You know, it'd be. Cause on Killer, you start talking to some of these girls, and they might have been with whoever motherfucker at the top, you know, they got lucky to be dating whoever. Hey, list this and that. And then when they. When that ain't there no more, they just looking at everybody else like, you ain't. You got to do this? And $30,000. Oh, man. What about old girl? That says something about the $30,000 a month or 50,000.
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Aisha Diaz. She said she needs 40 to 50k.
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B
Wait, wait, wait. What does she exactly say, though?
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A
We're gonna talk about this on the segment, so we'll talk about this in the. But yeah, the entitlement is crazy to me.
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B
That's part of entitlement, though. That 50,000amonth. Ain't that entitlement? Yeah, that's crazy. Damn. How can somebody have that mindset like you literally just like, that's just a high price. Like, that's like sounding. That sounds to me like you just a high price hoe. That's what that sound like. So I need 50,000amonth for you to date me. Do all that, whatever you want.
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So look, this is the More or Less segment brought to you by Prize Picks where you can win real cash by picking just more or less on your favorite players. Use code TAD and get $50 instantly in lineups when you play your first $5. So yeah, with the Aisha Diaz, she's saying that she needs 50k, 40 to 50k a month in order to feel good about her relationship and maintain her lifestyle. Right? So, yeah, that's definitely entitlement in my opinion. Right. But it depends because what she said was this. If a man doesn't want you to work, right? Because a lot of men, especially depending on what their stature is, they're like, I don't want my girl to work because then she's not available to me in the ways that I need her to be available to me, right? So for her, she's like, well, if that's the case, I make only Fans. I make 40, 50K. You don't want me to do only fans anymore, then I need more than just my bills. Like, you can pay my bills, but then I have no money left over. This is what she said in response. I have no money left over. I'm strapped. So I pay just my bills and now I can't do nothing. Like, so you have to give me more than my bills so I can save money, I can have cracking so I don't feel like so stressed out about money. Right? However, her lifestyle is 40, 50k, some bras, that's like $7,000. You know, with hers, hers is like 50k. Because she's saying that's how much she makes being on only fans. She has a mortgage, she has this. So a man who's dating her is like, I don't want you to do that. I don't want you to work. I want you to be able to travel with me, be available to me. Do all these things. So is she supposed to say, okay, I'm not gonna work and I have to lessen my lifestyle.
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B
Wait, how about keep doing only fans and we can still travel, but you could do the only fans in the hotel.
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A
Well, she's saying, whatever. Only fans.
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B
Ain't no wake up nine to five.
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A
But she's saying whatever she does, she works in a club too. She's not just only fans, she's a club bottle girl.
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B
So she has to be 50,000.
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A
That's what she was saying. She came on live, she was like, for me, people don't understand that that's
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B
gonna run dry quick. That's probably the peak of it. Ain't nobody making 40, 50,000amonth.
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A
She's saying she works in the club, so she's a club bottle club girl a month. She's saying that it's. She see like in the strip club and stuff, she's like, I see that money in a night. So for some people that sounds outrageous, but for me, I come across that money in a night.
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B
Nah, I ain't going. I am not going. You are not maintaining that contract.
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A
Yeah, that sounds ridiculous. That sounds 40, 50k is out of pocket.
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B
Nah, I don't care how bad you are, you could be. You ain't doing that every month. Like with no only fans and waitressing jobs. If you are doing that, that's the peak of it. And that's gonna run dry. You know that. That's gone, man. Them subscriptions gonna run dry after about that. If you doing that. How many consecutive years have you been doing that? Because I'm gonna just wait you out when it go down to like five, like, then what you gonna say? Like, damn, like, come on, that's extreme. That's like the highest level of high. And if you are there, that's cool. But that's not gonna last long. Cause it's gonna be a new girl. That's gonna be be the hot topic and the hot girl. And it's always gonna be somebody that's gonna take your place. So like that, that 50,000.
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A
But is it entitled for her? If a man is like, I'm gonna take care of you. I'm gonna help you with your bills.
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B
Nah, if you making 50, 50, 000amonth, let's keep doing that. You can keep.
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A
But I'm saying she's saying that the men, that's you. We're talking about a man who's saying, hey. Because there's a lot of men like, yeah.
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B
That are like, hey, don't do that.
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A
I'm gonna take care of you.
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B
Go find somebody else that could.
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A
Like, you could pay 5,000amonth.
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B
I'm like, that don't even make no sense. It's like, I'm buying your love now, right? Like, what I gotta pay? Like, come on, that don't even make sense. I mean. Cause that's like a red flag to me. Cause it's like, that ain't gonna be real. It's gonna be talking about the relationships you talk about. It's gonna last so long, and you gonna be off that. Like, all right, but see, she shouldn't even be saying that because it's gonna be a dude that's gonna come along that's gonna do that. He gonna do it for three months and be good. Now what you gonna do? Yeah, you gonna have to go back to that. So, like, come on, that's not realistic. Come on, that's not realistic.
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A
A man do be paying stuff.
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B
I mean, three, four, or five months, let's say the year. Then when your fans see you not doing that no more, can you jump back in it and get that same type of momentum? Momentum, yeah. Once you slow the momentum down, then it's over, you know?
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A
So, yeah, I mean, I get it.
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B
I feel like, yeah, she ain't no relationship girl. She just. Entertainment. I'm paying for it. Not a relationship. I'm paying for entertainment, period. I'm rich enough to pay for entertainment, and this is expensive entertainment. I'll do this. I'll blow this for a couple months, then I'm off. You know what I'm saying? That's what I do. That's what it is.
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