NFL ’25 BEST MOMENTS Part 1: Micah TRADED, Chase SPITTING & LYING, Caleb Williams OT thriller vs Packers

Summary

Club Shay Shay – NFL ‘25 Best Moments Part 1

Episode Date: January 8, 2026
Host: Shannon Sharpe
Guest/Co-host: Michael Irvin
Theme: Breaking down the biggest NFL stories heading into 2026, including the bombshell Micah Parsons trade, Jamar Chase’s controversy, rookie heroics, and shakeups in the playoff race.

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into the shocking trade of Micah Parsons to the Green Bay Packers, the fallout from Jamar Chase’s spitting incident, Caleb Williams’ thrilling OT victory, and several other major new developments in the NFL. Shannon Sharpe and Michael Irvin deliver unfiltered analysis, player perspective, and humor, highlighting the egos, decisions, and game-changing performances shaping the 2025 NFL season.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Micah Parsons Trade: Dallas to Green Bay

[02:15 - 26:13]

• The Blockbuster Trade

  • Dallas trades Micah Parsons, a four-time Pro Bowler and generational talent, to the Green Bay Packers for two first-round picks and DT Kenny Clark.
  • Green Bay gives Parsons a record-setting $188 million contract ($120M fully guaranteed).

• Reaction & Analysis

  • Irvin calls it “all ego and pride” on Jerry Jones’ part:

    "This is all ego. This is all ego and pride. On Jerry’s hands." – Michael Irvin [03:19]

  • Shannon questions the logic of the trade:

    "If you thought you could get better by trading Micah Parsons, why did you even offer him $200 million?" – Shannon Sharpe [04:31]

  • Both agree Parsons is irreplaceable:

    "Michael Parsons is a generational talent...If you know football, you know." – Michael Irvin [12:34]

  • Sharpe highlights the loss of “Cowboys media power” and off-field branding that could affect Parsons:

    "The podcast is only valuable when he’s a Cowboy. Ain’t nobody want...they want to hear about the Cowboys." – Shannon Sharpe [13:24]

• Jerry Jones’ Ego & Decision-Making

  • Sharpe and Irvin roast Jerry for negotiating directly with Micah, circumventing agents, and undermining relationships.

    "If you got an owner like Jerry Jones that says some of the things he says out loud...understand that the whole world is listening." – Michael Irvin [06:26]

• Long-term Implications

  • The move could haunt Dallas, especially with the locker room, media fallout, and the team’s recurring issues with stopping the run.
  • Both dissect the “run-stopping” rationale as a red herring:

    "I need a guy that can attack the quarterback. That’s what Micah Parsons does." – Shannon Sharpe [11:46]

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2. Jamar Chase’s One-Game Suspension

[29:53 - 34:32]

• Incident Recap

  • Jamar Chase suspended one game (costing over $500K) for allegedly spitting on Jalen Ramsey, which Chase’s camp disputes.
  • Shannon is skeptical of the defense offered:

    "Come on, Chase...You said you didn’t spit." – Shannon Sharpe [30:54]

• Reflection & Advice

  • Both hosts are surprised Chase is at the center of such controversy, stressing he’s usually mellow and unproblematic off-field.

    "You know him better than I do...there was never any indication. He’s so laid back." – Shannon Sharpe [33:34]

  • Shannon’s advice: “Best apology is changed behavior.” [32:56]

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3. Caleb Williams OT Win vs. Packers

[45:24 - 52:24]

• Game Breakdown

  • Caleb Williams leads the Bears to a thrilling OT comeback over Green Bay, walking it off with a TD to DJ Moore. Chicago’s revamped offensive line and rookie TE Loveland get credit.

• Key Moment

  • Packers commit errors (bad center exchange, turnovers), squandering their lead and control.

    "When you fall behind, as the behind team, you have to do everything right." – Shannon Sharpe [51:09]

  • Michael is candid:

    “I thought the Bears were going to lose...But those goddamn things that needed to go right, they went right.” – Michael Irvin [49:19]

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4. Other NFL Headlines

[54:26 - 71:30]

• Jets Bench Justin Fields

  • Tyrod Taylor to start after Fields struggled. Irvin laments another failed QB situation for the Jets:

    "Not only is the experiment over, it puts the Jets back...in search of quarterback number one." – Michael Irvin [54:57]

  • Shannon: “45 yards passing, NFL quarterback...Back to back, man.” [56:27]

• Titans’ Frustration

  • Defensive leader Jeff Simmons vents about lack of complimentary football and recurring offensive failures. Michael and Shannon highlight the need for organizational leadership amid back-to-back #1 pick seasons.

• Bills’ Keon Coleman Benched

  • Rookie receiver Keon Coleman is a healthy scratch. Both hosts urge him to up his work ethic and focus, warning how quickly a talented player can be replaced:

    "Never let them see they can win without you." – Shannon Sharpe [66:11]

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5. Rookie QB Jackson Dart Lifts Giants

[74:08 - 80:20]

• Performance Recap

  • Giants’ rookie QB Jackson Dart and RB Scat Pack power a win, showing poise and improvisation even after losing a top weapon.
  • Michael on Dart: “Real deal and he’s very exciting...combination of him and Scat Pack, it’s like two little kids out there on the playground.” [75:12]

• Giants’ Offensive Line Steps Up

  • Shannon notes notable O-line improvement and mistake-free football.

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6. Eagles’ Struggles and Coaching Critique

[80:20 - 87:32]

• Predictability & Play Calling

  • Shannon is critical of Philly’s play-calling, questioning the “imagination” with A.J. Brown and the team’s reluctance to diversify routes.

    “Is that the only route y’all believe A.J. Brown can run?” – Shannon Sharpe [80:33]

• Super Bowl Hangover

  • The hosts discuss the real grind of trying to repeat as champions, and the energy every opponent brings against the defending Super Bowl winners.

    “They are your Super Bowl this year.” – Shannon Sharpe [85:03]

• Jalen Hurts’ Mindset

  • Michael points out Hurts’ notorious focus on the future, not last year’s glory.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Jerry Jones’ egotism:

  "Every time he talks, Ocho, a toe pops out. Cause he got his whole foot in his mouth." – Shannon Sharpe [13:24]

• On the impact of being a Cowboy:

  "Anything attached to that star—playing there...comes with so much, bro." – Michael Irvin [14:25]

• On the harsh reality for players:

  "Never let them see that they can win without you." – Dennis Smith (via Shannon Sharpe) [66:11]

• On the average NFL career:

  "You don’t get no 30-year career in the NFL. They replaced every year to turnover...that’s why the average NFL career is 2.3 years." – Shannon Sharpe [73:24]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Micah Parsons Trade Fallout — [02:15–26:13]
• Jamar Chase Suspension — [29:53–34:32]
• Caleb Williams OT Thriller — [45:24–52:24]
• Other NFL Storylines: Jets, Titans, Bills, etc. — [54:26–71:30]
• Giants’ Rookie QB Jackson Dart Shines — [74:08–80:20]
• Eagles’ Problems & Play Calling Critique — [80:20–87:32]

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Tone and Delivery

• Unfiltered, conversational, and humorous
• Insightful player perspective, with deep dives on leadership, ego, and team building
• Plenty of “real talk” about front office mistakes, player value, and locker room culture

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Takeaway

This episode is a must-listen for NFL fans who want real perspective on the season’s biggest moments. Shannon Sharpe and Michael Irvin bring wisdom, wit, and player insight as they dissect game-changing trades, off-field controversies, and the relentless business side of pro football. The discussion around Micah Parsons, Jamar Chase, rookie performances, and the grind of NFC powerhouses offers a compelling, authentic view of the league’s evolving storylines.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Hello, it's your Favorite sports thunk here. Don't forget to hit that subscribe button to join the fastest growing community on YouTube. Remember, Nightcap doesn't happen without you, so please subscribe or you're going to make OO cry. Oh, the trade heard around the world. Last night, the Dallas Cowboys did the unthinkable. Trading the four time Pro Bowler defensive rookie of the year, two time first team all pro, Micah Parson to the Green Bay packers. In exchange for two first round picks and defensive tackle Kenny Clark. The packers handed Michael Parsons the largest, the largest contract for a non quarterback in NFL history. He got four years. 188 million, 120 fully guaranteed at signing.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And 136 total guarantee. 188 million total. Ocho.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cowboys faking. Hold on.

[Michael Irvin]

Just take your time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You want me to start it off?

[Michael Irvin]

Hey, well, I can start it off because I. Listen, I'm not you. You will probably get a little bit more in depth than I will, but I would just. This chat. Y' all stay with me real quick. This is. This is all ego. This is all ego and pride. On Jerry's. On. On Jerry's hands. When he did the deal and he got in front of the camera, he did something, as always, that he shouldn't have done. One of the first things he said is this was a good trade. And two, we need to be able to stop the run. Now you're bringing in Kenny Clark and again, once again put the pressure on Kenny Clark and your defense and the coaching staff to be able to stop the run. Because who you play week one on who do they play?

[Shannon Sharpe]

We go to Philly.

[Michael Irvin]

They going to Philly. And what does Philly do? Extremely well, outside of throwing the ball, run the football. Now you can put your team in a blender doing the same thing you always doing is doing all that talking before it's even time to play. And you ain't been in nan meeting room, you ain't been on nan field. Oh, letting one of the greatest young superstars of all time go. And you feel your team has gotten better. How does that make.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's cliche talk, Ocho. Oh, we got better. Really? So if you felt that way, why were you trying to sign him? If you thought you could get better by trading Michael Parsons, why did you even offer him $200 million? Now all this time, the last four. Four years, they were getting run on. I never heard Jerry say a word about running on. Now, I don't know about y', all, but I. The. The thing is, you Want guys to go hunt the quarterback because the Kansas City Chiefs stopped the run. What did the. What did the Eagles do? They got after my homeboy. Yeah. Because that's the guy that's the head of the snake is your quarterback.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And Al Davis coined the state. He said he coined the phrase, the quarterback must go down and he must go down hard. And it needs to happen early in the game. And also see Jerry see again, if you watch the documentary America's Team, the Gambler and the. And the. I think the Dallas Cowboys, it was his ego that's what caused him and Jerry go. So now he done. Well, we had a handshake deal. What? First of all, man, you cannot. If a player has representation, the owner or the nor the general manager can negotiate a deal with the player. You must talk to his agent. Jerry knows that Michael probably thought I'm shaking hand. Ocho. Hey, man, Jerry good to see. Jerry said, well, you shook my hand. We got a deal. It's being reported that Michael said, okay, Jerry, call my agent then. Oh, we do the deal. I've done plenty of these deals. Well, you shouldn't have. The NFL should have punished you. The NFL? Pa. He told on himself. Oh, I've done plenty of these.

[Michael Irvin]

Well, you also have to understand the leverage that Jerry Jones has. Huh? If you got an owner like Jerry Jones that says some of the things that he says out loud that owners are not even supposed to say, maybe think, but you never actually regurgitated in front of a camera, understand that the whole world is listening and watching. So, you know, he don't care about that. Then we talk about the same owner that you told me about sued the NFL. He had the nerve and the gall and the cojones to sue the NFL and say, I'm going to get everything, if I'm not mistaken, basically changed it. So what is the NFLPA going to do? What they going to do? There's nothing they can do because he doesn't care. He's in a position of power right now to be able to do what he wants because he just let the world know I tried to handle contract negotiations without Micah Parsons representation. All he doing is telling you to his eye, I mean, to everybody face.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He says he's done plenty of these.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah. Two middle fingers out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, why didn't you do that with Dak? Why did you not circumvent Todd France?

[Michael Irvin]

Hey, Dak don't play that. You know how you know Dak if you don't know Dak personally? You know Dak And Jerry don't see eye to eye and he doesn't have that friendly, that friendly banter relationship with Jerry Jones. D is one of the few players that actually kept it strictly, strictly business.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Micah was like that too. Micah and Jerry didn't have Micah. Micah did not have the same type of relationship that Jerry had with, with Michael Irving or he had with some of the other players that come along. Micah's like, I'mma do. I'm. I'm here to do business. I'm going do my job to the best of my God given ability. But hey, it is a business and I want to keep it moving now. Me and I'm just talking about me guys. I think once, you know, Jerry started saying all this stuff, you know, we pay him who to say that we going to have him. Remember he missed all these games. He's still calling the man Michael Parsons and not Micah. Even, even Steven had to say Micah that, you know, basically Micah. So it doing it on purpose. I don't know if it was on purpose or not, but I'm just saying. Ocho, I think as Micah, as Micah started to listen to what this man was saying, like this man don't. This man don't respect me. This man don't respect nothing about me. Jerry think. I mean, you own the team, but you don't own me. And that's how, that's how Jerry thinking. Jerry thinking if I pay you, I should, I should tell you coming in the old days, they had the mule. They say G and ha. You say get up your stop. That's how Jerry's mentality is. Don't say hey, I'm just, I'm not saying that he don't feel the same way about the other players, but I'm just saying his mentality is if I pay you, you do what I tell you to do. Nah, bro, it ain't like that. And as. And it is reported. I don't know. Jane Slater said that Michael says, okay, let's get a deal. Jerry say, nah, you gonna play on the fifth year option or you can leave will make it happen to you. All right, Because I'm not playing. I'm not playing for 21 or 24. I'm not. So whatever you got to do, do what you got to do. So. So what about all. So I'm just trying to. All these years because the Cowboys weakness over the last since Micah's been there or before he got there was the inability to stop the run. I remember Cleveland Browns ran for 300 yards. Arizona Cardinals ran for 300. The Baltimore Ravens ran for 300. Pick a team that didn't run. Jerry ain't mentioned nothing. So if you just got better. Cause I remember when Jerry was there and chat, y' all correct me if I'm wrong all the time that he was telling you these teams remind him of those super bowl winning teams. He just traded a player that was on the team that he said had as much talent, if not more than those super bowl winning team. He just traded him and said he got better.

[Michael Irvin]

Listen, Kenny. Kenny Clark is good. Kenny Clark good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he is.

[Michael Irvin]

He ain't no guy slouch. He ain't no slouch. He's 30. But we talk about Michael Parsons, we talk about Michael Parsons, we talk about a generation.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm going in the draft looking for a Michael Parsons, a TJ Watt, a Miles Garrett. I'm trying to. Those are trans. Formational players. Those are the guys that you're trying to get. I tell you what, tell me the run stopper. That's in, that's in the hall of Fame. They got a gold jacket even. We were just talking about Leonard Williams. He's talking about how Aaron Donald changed it where they won't. They want guys to get the D tackle to go get double digit sacks. That's different because that's a different ball. So. But they so much emphasis on the passing game. I need a guy that can attack the quarterback. That's what Michael Parsons does. First of all, Jerry, you're not, you're gonna have to. Because here's the thing, Ocho. The way they're constructed, this team, the Dallas Cowboys, the office is supposed to get the lead. The team is supposed to be ahead. The other team can't run the football. They throw. Michael Parsons go hunt the quarterback. What happens when Dak turns it over or they don't have this big lead? So now because you constructed a team that you lighten the britches, you can't hold up when they boom and they come and boom and they come and boom.

[Michael Irvin]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Like Marshon said, over and over and.

[Michael Irvin]

Over and over, you hit him in the face.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what Jerry don't understand. So unless you go, unless you're going to redesign your team, let me know how, how that work out for you.

[Michael Irvin]

But again, I would say that the trade, the trade is not even swapping in any way based on skill and talent at the positions. Kenny Clark is very good. Kenny Clark is very good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he had a down year, but he said he had a foot injury. Last year.

[Michael Irvin]

But Michael Parsons is a generational talent. I don't care what people say they try to hate. I don't care what it may be. I mean, if your eyes, if you know the game of football, if you watch football, you know, even for me as being a receiver, I understand what he brings to the table. Regardless of what team he goes to, he's a difference maker completely. He wrecks havoc.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah.

[Michael Irvin]

And man, and I, I, I can't believe Jerry did that. I can't believe Jerry said some of the things he said for it to even get to this point. If you paid him last year ahead of time and, and tried to copycat with some of the other owners are doing around the NFL to continue to build team winning teams, then you wouldn't have this issue, you wouldn't run into this problem. But your ego continues to get in your way. And it's been getting in your way the past 30 years.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Every time he talks Ocho, a toe pops out. Cause he got his whole foot in his mouth. So every time he talk, I see another toe. I said, mm, there it is. But I will say this. Look, it hurt. Look, when you get drafted somewhere there's something, there's like a sense of loyalty that, you know, I want, you know what? I want to be a one Jersey guy. I want to be one helmet. I want to stay here for the rest of my career. And I do believe Micah, who would have preferred to stay there? Me. Okay, the packers gave him 47 million, Ocho. But to stay in Dallas, I took 44. And let me tell you why. Because what can I do with 44 that I got to have 47? Because see, and plus now it's being reported that the podcast caused some problems. See, the podcast is only valuable when he's a Cowboy. Ain't nobody want. Hey, they want to hear about the Cowboys. They want to hear about the boys. They want to hear about Jerry. They want to hear about Dakota. I'm sorry. And this is not a shot at no other team. But there's a reason. There's a reason why, yes, it absolutely is. 1,000.

[Michael Irvin]

Any, anything, anything attached to that star playing there. You want to take advantage of that window when you are there because it comes with so much, bro. It comes with so much.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Troy media Romo Media Dandy Don Meredith Meter media. Michael Irvin Media. What other, what other franchise can boast that now that the guy that call the color guy. Do you know the color guys, Troy? Two of the pro formative prominent spots occupied by Cowboys quarterback. Now, I know a lot of y' all don't remember when Dandy Don Meredith was on. Was on ABC with Howard Cosell. Yeah, he was a cowboy. Michael Irvin was a cowboy. Moose Johnson, cowboy. Hey, Swagu. Cowboy.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's not an accident. That's not an accident. And plus, if you look, Michael Irvin ain't calling football. Michael Irvin make millions. Emmy make millions. And ain't none of them caught a football around a football in two decades. Michael retired before me, and Emily retired a year after me, so.

[Michael Irvin]

And.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Jimmy. Jimmy. Jimmy just retired. Yeah, so think about that, Ocho. That's not an accident. So the money that you were going to be able to make, now look, it's all mute now. Mute. Moot. It's a moot point. Mute means you can't hear. Moot. Obsolete. Anyway, with that being said, it doesn't matter now. But I'm just saying if the opportunity would have presented itself, say, okay, we got. We. Hey, we're not gonna give you 47. Cause this really reset the market. 44 would have reset the market. That's $3 million more than what. What T.J. watt got. So. So that's an extra 12 million. They went 6. They with 24. So I don't. I don't have a problem. It. It hurt him. Oo because anytime they a. A team trade you, they say, hey, we. We. Hey, we good without you. Or the, the. The thought of it.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah, that's. That's, that's. And I, I don't like. I don't like this. What I. That's what I hate. I hate when. When players get traded, players that we know are really good players that play for our team and you know how good the player is. And when they get traded, then fans.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Start talking about, he was that.

[Michael Irvin]

Oh, he. He wasn't that good anyway.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Like, come on, you never said that when he was there. You're only saying that now. Again, that's your team. That. That's their team. Oo. And you look, it's team. Because guess what? Somebody else is going to wear that number 11 one day. All they see is the star on that helmet. Players come and go. They're interchangeable. They've had great players with the Cowboys all the way back when they came into existence in 1960 when they drafted Bob Lilly and they got Randy White and they got all these guys. They got a lot of. A lot of hall of Famers.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And so that's what they see. They see it doesn't the name. Okay. Yeah. We love Emmy. We love Troy. We love those guys. But guess what? We got new cowboys now. We love them, too.

[Michael Irvin]

Well, hell, you just let a hall of. A future hall of Famer go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And. And I know Michael wanted one of those blue coats that, you know, the ring of fame, but you saw Jimmy and you saw. You saw Emmett and all those guys wearing those blue coats. We have orange ones. You know, somebody. I think the Dolphins got that teal color. If I'm not mistaken, the Patriots got the red. Got red coats. That's not gonna happen now. Cause, you know, think about how long it took him to put Jerry. Jimmy in.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Mike ain't. I mean, and it probably. Look, he got enough money and. And the difference was, Ocho, is that Mike is 26. In three years, he can come back to the table and get another big deal. Jerry wanted to do five years plus the op, plus the. The fifth year option, which is six. He said nah. He said, we do both.

[Michael Irvin]

Make sure he won't be able to come back and double dip.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep. But, Ocho, we had this conversation chat now it was Green Bay, man. People, they need to stop making up stuff. Ocho and I, we tried to tell y'. All when these. When these stuff, this stuff keeps leaking out, it's coming from somewhere. I know y' all don't want to believe that your favorite player or they could potentially trade your favorite player or release your favorite player. I know you don't want to believe that, but where you think this stuff come from, people? So of all the things someone could have said, Michael Parsons to the pack was what they went with. Of all the things they could have said. Of all the teams, 32 teams, 53 players per team, plus somewhere between 13 and 16 practice squad guys of every storyline, they could have said, this is what they went with.

[Michael Irvin]

Hey, where there smoke, this fire. Where there is smoke, there's fire, you know? And the first thing people want to say, well, who's your source? Don't worry about the source. Whatever. Whatever you're hearing from somewhere, they know how to get it out there. I don't know how they get it out there, but they get it out there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This is how to get it out there. Hey, man, I'm tell you something. Hey, it ain't. You ain't here for me. You know how you. Hey, put your spin on it, okay? I'm just telling how it is. Oh, man. I'm not an inside.

[Michael Irvin]

I love them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm not. And I don't really try to Break no news. I could. I could. But that ain't. That ain't. That ain't what I was when I was on cbs. That's not what they paid me for. They had Charlie Cassidy for that when I was on Fox. That's what they had Jay Glazer for. I'm with espn. That's what they got Adam Schefter for. Ain't breaking nothing. I'm gonna keep my relationship because I have to be very, very careful. Cause people got all over me when I said what I was saying about when Russ, man. Well, how you. I don't know. He ain't in the locker room. Right, right, right. Okay. But I'm just saying. So I just say at that point in time, I said, you know what, Shanna, it ain't worth it. It ain't. It ain't. It ain't even worth it to you. I don't know. I'm just gonna speak. Well, this is what, you know, for me. If I was in the locker room. X, Y, and Z. Knowing, Knowing. But. But. Oh, you could tell the more and more Jerry talk, the more.

[Michael Irvin]

Oh, he made it worse.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The more. The more, like, dug in, the more. The more. Hey, you know what? He called Stephen A. He wanted to get. He wanted to get his point out there with Stephen A. Stephen A. Sitting down with Jerry. Jerry's like this first time. We got him under contract for three more years. Nobody was even. You and I had that discussion. I said, oo. He got the fifth year option, and he got two franchise tags. So theoretically, he could be a jerk about it and says, okay, play on the fifth year option. Franchise. Franchise. Okay, go ahead and go, but I done got seven years of service out.

[Michael Irvin]

You listen. And Michael was gonna be a jerk, too. You notice. You notice. They say he was cleared for his back pain. Right? So you know what he did? Oh, y' all want to play games? So we gonna play the game. I'm gonna go get a second opinion, and I'm gonna make sure. The second opinion I get, make sure. Let y' all know that I can't play.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Michael Irvin]

He was finna play the game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah.

[Michael Irvin]

So Jerry understood. Okay, you know what? He ain't playing. He not finna fold. He really finna play this game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So it's been third opinion.

[Michael Irvin]

Might as well get.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, that second. That second opinion sounded too much like the first opinion. So let me go get a third opinion. I need a descending. I need a descending vote. You know, three. You know, look, the Cowboys say they're a Better team. I don't know how you trade your best defensive player. I believe he. He's the best. He was the best player on either side of the ball. I don't know how you trade him and get better. We'll see what they do with the draft compensation. You know, you could look at Houston and say, when they traded to Sean, they got better. They got C.J. stroud, they got Nico Collins, they got Anderson. So, you know. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? You could say, oh, they got better. They got all. They got some all pros over there. They got a franchise quarterback. You got a hell of a defensive lineman. You got a really young, great receiver. We did all right, Ocho. We did all right. Yeah.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah. Now, that's getting better.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's getting better. But I want to see what they do with the draft picks. But I don't know if you can't attack a team's quarterback. That's how they're built. You were built. They got undersized offensive linemen, except Mozzie Smith, but that's his job.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you. So you put. So, in other words, you put all the. Well, we didn't stop the run. Well, look at. Look at my bro. You sing. So you single. So now, because you guys got ran on, you put all that on Micah.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah, also. Well, wait a minute. He said the problem is fixed now, though, okay? He said the problem is fixed. We got better. We got Kenny Clark. Therefore, I feel we can stop the run now. Look, so now you put the pressure on them boys, and them boys ain't even play yet, and they got to play the Eagles week one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So.

[Michael Irvin]

So when things don't turn out how you said they are, as far as you guys getting better, stop the run. And you got Saquan Barkley running for 250 yards on you. Now you got another problem with Jayla. Her.

[Shannon Sharpe]

With Jayla Herz ordered Uber Eats back there talking about what they got. I like the Mugu Gal Pan. I like the General Joe's Chicken. I like the. Hey, hey. Y' all got. Y' all got egg rolls.

[Michael Irvin]

You'd be back there smoking a cigar.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Chilling, because Lane Johnson and my lotta ain't to be played with.

[Michael Irvin]

And that ain't none nothing by. Nothing by. How about how we gotten better not realizing who you play Week one? Do you remember the defensive. Do you understand the office of line? You're getting ready to play week one. Are you sure? Are you sure you've gotten better?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, and you got the commanders so we're gonna find out. I, I, you know, look, a lot of times, Ocho, you know, hey, we, we all have it. We all have it. We make up our minds or something. I don't care. It might be the best thing for us, but sometimes we'll cut our nose off despite our face. I'm gonna show you. I'm gonna show you. You think I can't. You think I can't live without you? You think I can't be without you? I'm gonna show you. Sometimes we can't get out of our own way, Ocho.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And then when you realize the, the, the, the, the gravity of the mistake that you've made, it's too late. It's too late. We've all been there, Chad. We've all been there. We've all. Hey, you know, I can there plenty of fish in the sea. But as my grandmother told my aunt, you might not catch them Did. And Jerry. Jerry Jones had plenty to say about the biggest reason for not signing Michael Parson. Because the Cowboys needed to stop the run. He also said, we can win more without Micah than when had we signed him. So if that's the case, why were you trying to sign him? Why was it such a big deal, this handshake deal? Why were you trying to get him to sign his contract? See, Ocho, if he had never offered Micah a contract, I could agree with everything that he said.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho Jamar Chase we had this conversation last night. Jama chase was suspended one game. The one game suspension will cost him over half a million dollars. 448, $333 in a game check and 58, 8, 24 in an active roster bonus. Chase plans to appeal and argue this one game suspension, claiming that if it was going to spit on Jalen Ramsey, he would have spit in his face and not on the man's jersey, the ground. Ocho. Oh, Joe, that's not. Come on real. I mean, come on, Chase.

[Michael Irvin]

He didn't even talk to the media. Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hello. That's what in Rappaport said is that he said if he was going to spit on Jalen Ramsey, he would have spinning his face and not on the jersey, the ground.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah, I don't think he said that because he declined to talk to media. He declined to talk to everybody today. Obviously, you know, once you get out of watching film on Mondays, he declined to talk.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I guess his team put that out. But anyway, I don't know how, I don't know. But first of all, you said you didn't spit. So whether you were spitting on the ground or you would have did X, Y and Z, you said you didn't spit. That's what you said. You said that after the game. Yeah, now the, all that, Ocho, you know, they shoot everything, man. You know, they shoot everything in 4K and you could actually see it. Yeah, yeah, you could. You can see pimples on an ant booty from the moon. That's how good the cameras are, Ocho.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Chase. Absolutely appeal it. But I, me, I, I just think you should, you know, call Rams and say, bro, I'm sorry, my emotions got the best of me and leave and, and, and because this one incident, this is not you. I don't believe this is you. I'm surprised that we're actually having Ocho and I'm having this conversation and you're the topic of the conversation because you're ensnared in this. I wouldn't have believed it if you, you would have been the very last person they said a receiver. I probably there are some other names I might have would have went to, but I wouldn't have been. I, I, I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't have put that, I wouldn't have put that on you.

[Michael Irvin]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So I hope, I hope that's what or in Rappaport said. He said his team said or he said. I don't believe it. Now, I'm gonna say, let's just say. But for the sake of. But you did spit on him. Whether you would have what you would have done. You spit on the man and it's gonna cost you, but you'll learn from it. I don't believe this is the type of person that you are. We've all done things that we're, we're not the, it's not our finest moment.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And don't. I, I don't think this moment should define Jamar Chase. They're going to be, they're going to be a lot of other moments that we can look back and define Jamar Jamar Chase with. This is not going to be your defining moment, but the, the, the best, the best apology, Ocho, is change behavior. Don't let something like this happen again and we gonna be good, bro.

[Michael Irvin]

The funny thing about it, when we talk about Jane, when we talk about change behavior, the players, I'm not just speaking on Jamar Chase in general, the change behavior most of the time, you know, he gonna make you forget about it on the field.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Michael Irvin]

Gonna make you forget about it on the field. And we never have problems out of Chase off the field anyway.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, you don't ever have problems from.

[Michael Irvin]

So when, when you, when you think of a hypothetical, if this scenario or this situation never happened and you just thought of some players that, that, that it would come from. It wouldn't come from him because he's one who causes no problems. The problem he calls is on the field. Correct as hell. That's it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's why, that's why I struggle. That's why you struggle.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because you know him better than I do. And there was never any indication. He's so laid back. He's so much. If you watch him when he does an interview, he's sitting back.

[Michael Irvin]

He chill.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He's sitting back like this here all the time.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So he. And a little bit that I've been around him. I've been around him a couple of times doing an autograph signing. I saw him at the super bowl and he's a chill guy.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He's not one of these high strung guys that, you know, best liable to go off. He's really mild mannered.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So that's why it's so surprising. But. You know, look, like I said, you know, this season was supposed to be different. They missed the playoff last year. He had the Triple Crown. He's the first Triple Crown, my brother to win that and not make the playoffs. My brother won the triple crown in 92. They didn't make the playoffs. Yeah, he won the triple crown in 24. They didn't sold almost 30. Almost well over 30 years.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So it doesn't happen often because there's not a whole lot of people that win the Triple Crown. It's hard. So you gotta have. You gotta have the most catches, yards and touchdowns versus everybody, not just the nfc, but the AFC as well. Sometimes you can have yards, sometimes you could have catches something. And then somebody nips you at with touchdowns. He. He had both. It's kind of like winning the Triple Crown in. In baseball.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. You could have a.380 batting average, but you got 40 home runs, and somebody got 50 or somebody drives in 135. That's why it doesn't happen that often. Mickey Cabrera was the last one. Then you got to go all the way back to Yaz. Wait, who call you Scrimsky. Okay.

[Michael Irvin]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Michael Irvin]

Gonna say who. Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. So. Or the same thing in horse racing, you know, hey, you might win that first two, but that mile and a half at the Belmonts.

[Michael Irvin]

That'S it. That's hell, boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. If you notice now, a lot of horses just like, hey, forget it. They just. Hey, they like. I don't even worry about it. Hey, we win the Kentucky Derby, we'll skip the Preakness. We'll see you at the Belmont.

[Michael Irvin]

Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, it was such a long time. And then. I mean, everybody thought it was easy. You get Secretary in 73, and then you get Seattle Saloon affirm back to back year, 77, 78. And then it's like. Well, it's. Man, it's too hard. It's too hard. It's too hard. And then you get American Pharaoh. Do it. And then you come back with Justified, Bob Baffert. Two horses. Yeah, it's hard. It's hard. You probably had more Triple Crown winners in baseball than you had in horse racing. But.

[Michael Irvin]

And it's. That's difficult.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah, for sure.

[Michael Irvin]

Hey, you. You been. You've been to the Kentucky Derby before.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I've been. Oo. We got. Hey, it's all about. Oo. It's all about the hat.

[Michael Irvin]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

For a man and a woman is all about. I've seen women come with some hats and be barefooted. To be barefooted.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because they know. I don't know. For some reason, it normally rains.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But. Oh, Jody. Lady have these hats. I mean, one lady had a hat. I mean, this. This hat was way out here like this here.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, your boy, we had to have a head.

[Michael Irvin]

Oh, yeah, you. Hey, young. You was out there sharp, huh? You were sharp.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If A fly lit on. If a fly would have landed on me, oh, I'd have cut his throat. You see, you messing me up. You messing up the ensemble. Yeah, I'm a clean Ocho.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I didn't know.

[Michael Irvin]

I'd have been there a few times. Obviously, when I was in Cincinnati, it's Right. It's right down the street.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right, right. As a matter of fact, hell, I flew into Cincinnati and drove over.

[Michael Irvin]

Drove down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right down the street, man. It's a great event. I only did it one time. You know, I'm not in that kind of.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's. That's why I met. I met. I met Bob Baffert, okay. Him and his son at the time I met. Rest his soul, I think D. Wayne Lucas. I met a couple of them.

[Michael Irvin]

It's a great. It's great. It's awesome sport.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's unbelievable, Ocho, because it was. It was on my bucket list. You know, I've been to a World Series, obviously. I've been to a Super bowl, the Kentucky Derby. I want to do Daytona 500. I want to do Wimbledon.

[Michael Irvin]

Listen, do me. Do me. Do me a favor. Do. To give yourself some justice so you can understand the experience. When you go to the Daytona 500, do not let them put you in a suite. You need to sit in the stand so you can get the feel, to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Feel them go around that track.

[Michael Irvin]

Yes, yes. You got to be able to experience it. You got to feel those cars coming around. You know, the energy, the aura, the stands. You got to. Oh, man, it's on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's crazy, man. It's crazy. I mean, it's something about when you feel. When you feel 800 horsepower, wow. It's 42 of those cars, and they go in 180, 190 miles an hour. And they're this close. They're this close. Yeah. And those cars are damn near upside down.

[Michael Irvin]

Unbelievable.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, boy. Hey, hey, hey. Would they be. Hey, they bump draft. That's a rescue. So the Terminator. Dale Earnhardt slingshot down in the back. Oh, man, I gotta see that one. I gotta see that. I want to see Wimbledon, because I went to see. I saw the US Open. I saw Serena. She just got married to two a couple of years ago to David Lee. She the Dane, the tennis player. She married David Lee, the basketball player. I saw her and Serena play semifinal at the US Open on a Saturday night. What's her name? Wozniaki. Yep. She married David Lee. I think they got a couple of kids. Because I saw them in. I just saw them in Vegas, maybe for the Super Bowl. David Lee, Michael Phelps and his wife. And it was David Lee and Wozniaki. But, man, Ocho, I gotta. I gotta. Huh? Yeah. You look at your boy.

[Michael Irvin]

Hey, boy, you clean now. I see you. Okay. You clean.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look, I pulled out. I was in a hurry. Was it a hurry?

[Michael Irvin]

All right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey. Hello. It's April. Oh. So we might have to jump down. Hey, Club Shay shape. I mean, a nightcap. Might have to go on the road at the Derby.

[Michael Irvin]

Listen, I get my hat ready right now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Don't.

[Michael Irvin]

Don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Don't play with me.

[Michael Irvin]

Hey. Because you know, when it comes to putting them. Putting them things on. No, I put that. I put that. I put that you know what on there. I'm ready.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, we might. We about to go and do a little something.

[Michael Irvin]

Speaking of horses in Kentucky Derby, my daughter. My daughter, Cha Cha, she plays tennis. Unc. She's phenomenal. She's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Michael Irvin]

Phenomenal. And she loves horses. Until I love. She said, I'mma blame her mama. I'mma blame my mama. We went riding horses this past weekend, a weekend before last. She asked me all about types of horses and telling me about saddles, and I'm like, man, where in the world.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You learn all this stuff at?

[Michael Irvin]

I said, she's really into it. So I'm like, okay. Okay, cool. Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Being in your pockets, too.

[Michael Irvin]

Hey, listen, so as soon as we finish riding, you know, the first thing, Christmas coming up. So the first thing I do, I'm talking to the lady. We on the trail, we riding, ask the train. I say, you know what horses run, how much they cost? Okay. A thousand, fifteen hundred for something simple.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Michael Irvin]

No, I ain't get. I ain't getting nothing. Too expensive now, you know, she. She. She young, man. So I'm like, okay, what about Borden? What about feeding? Do they have places. Do they have places out here?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, that's where you spend the money.

[Michael Irvin]

You know, they have boarding. It's like, yeah, that's. Yes, there's boarding. So I asked her, I say, well, listen, I'm gonna leave my information and, you know, send it to me and the numbers and what it costs weekly, monthly, and for the year. And I'm thinking about, you know, getting my daughter. I'm thinking about get a Pasafino. I don't want none too big. I want some a little small, where the ride is smooth. And a Pacifino would be perfect for her. Yeah, I'm Just curious. I'm kind of excited. I'm kind of excited for her because she loved him so much. And I think that would be one of the best breast surprises for one of, one of my 85 on Christmas morning.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The thing is oo is that, yeah, you get a horse for a decent price, you probably spend 1500, maybe $5000 on a horse.

[Michael Irvin]

What you got to put into it completely different.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But the boarded and defeated.

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[Michael Irvin]

Yeah, but see and, and to also you got to understand where I live in Miami, out that way, you know, because I'm, I'm further up north and west a little bit. Ain't nothing out there but horses and stables. That's it. And when you think Miami, you think South Beach. No, all the nice stuff. But I'm out there in. I don't even know what you want to call it. You know, you go to Walmart, you go to Target, and when you, when you driving, it's people riding horses up and down the street like we in goddamn Texas. Yeah, I'm serious. That's how far out I am from everybody.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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It's all at TJ Maxx so you can focus on just being you. With so many finds arriving daily, that means so many ways to show your unique style. Shop in store and [e-mail] and Max what makes you you? Kayla Williams hit DJ Moore and walked it off. They won the toss. They elected the Green Bay to have the ball because they wanted to see what they needed. Green Bay was driving down the field, fumble the snap and the rest is, as they say, history. Yeah, they had a got a there was third and 20 and the guy grabbed Caleb Williams face mask, face mask gave him life when he really didn't have to do that. But hey, right you're in the you grabbing. So yeah, those things happen. But Caleb Williams 19 of 34 to 52 touchdowns. He wasn't sacked and he didn't turn the football over. Deandre Swift ran the ball 13 times for 58 yards. Kylie Manga Mana Mangai Mana Guy Mono Guy Monogai Monogai had 9 for 50. Caleb Williams ran the ball three times for 30 yards. They had 26 rush 150 yards but DJ Moore 5 for 97 on a big touchdown. They win this ball game. They look like they're going to win this division. Who would have thought based on what they had last year Ocho but we thought with Ben Johnson coming in. You picked them to be one of your surprise teams. Them and the Carolina Panthers to be one of your surprise teams. And I think they surprised a lot. I think they're a lot better than people. They thought they would improve, but I don't think anybody thought given that division with Green Bay and Detroit still in that division. Ocho, I don't think anybody had Chicago pitch to win win that division. Just go to show you what the coaching staff, they brought in some addition. They rebound. The offensive line, new center and Dolman new left guard and and thy new right tackle. So they revamped that offensive line and they got love. Lace Love. Excuse me. Loveland is the. The tight end, the first round draft pick and he's been phenomenal. So give the Chicago Bears credit. Ocho Jordan love lead the game. But Malik Willis did not disappoint. He played extremely well. Played very well, 11, 121 yards. Threw a touchdown pass to Aromio Dobbs. But it was not enough because this was all about the Chicago Bears. When they needed to get a stop, they got a stop. They bend, but they didn't break. They made them settle for a field goal and the game. Because if they can't score a touchdown, the game's over. Yes, but they made them kick a field goal. They go down the field getting field goal range. Kick the field goal, go for the onside. Romeo Dobbs misplayed it and given his concussion history, Ocho, I'm not so sure you want him there with those kind of collisions.

[Michael Irvin]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because that's what they're coming and they come in with bad intentions.

[Michael Irvin]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Remember now, ain't no helping to help it on the old side now.

[Michael Irvin]

No, that's a car.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That is a for real car crash.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah, but you also, you want. You want your players with your best hands and the ones that you trust the most in those situation, situations like that, you want them on your hands. Team.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Also, Josh Jacobs going in for a touchdown. He fumbled the football. That has been his history. He's had a history. He's had a propensity to put the ball on the ground. No, Joe, as. As we start getting closer and closer, we end. We start in December and we move towards January.

[Michael Irvin]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got to hold on to the football. You cannot turn it over. The ball is a premium and it cost him. And guess what? We didn't see him anymore. Yeah, yeah, we didn't see him anymore. Listen, Emmanuel Wilson took over from there. Yeah, Josh Jacobs, you got to do a better job of holding on to the football. They know, they know you'll give it up at some point in time and they're going to keep hammering at it. You're good back, but you got to hold on to the football. Oh, so what did you like about what you saw from Chicago? Because Green Bay really controlled this game.

[Michael Irvin]

Listen. Yeah, they control the game. That really. They controlled the game in its entirety throughout the game. I really, honestly, I'm gonna tell you, I thought the Bears were going to lose. And going into the fourth quarter, five minutes left into the fourth quarter unknown. The game is 16 to 6.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep.

[Michael Irvin]

I'm like, hell, that's a two score game with only five minutes left on the clock. So many different things have to go right for the Bears to even have a chance to come back. And those goddamn things that needed to go right, they went right. Those things absolutely went right. The center exchange, the mess up between Malik Willis and the center.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Can't have that.

[Michael Irvin]

O you, hey, listen, you can't have that with the starting center and the backup quarterback. How many snaps do they get?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Unknown.

[Michael Irvin]

Think about it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, oh, but you got to realize Malik Willis had been in the game, so they had taken a lot of them. They had to think about when Jordan Love went out.

[Michael Irvin]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Malik Willis comes in.

[Michael Irvin]

He come. Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because I didn't see, I didn't me and I want you to go, Ocho. I didn't see Jordan Love until they replayed it where he got helmet to helmet. Yes. I didn't, I didn't see it in real time. Okay. On formed out, I said why did, why they bring Malik Willis?

[Michael Irvin]

Right, right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And then, and then when they went back, they showed it. I was like, okay, that's why they brought Malik Willis in. But. Go ahead, Ocho, finish your point.

[Michael Irvin]

But, but, but also I think that might have been a problem. You know, you can't, you can't blame the weather. You can't blame the weather. I would, I would just say the fact that even though, even though he was in there for a few snaps once Jordan Love went out, I mean that center and quarterback exchange and the fact that they haven't had any type of continuity together that might have played a part in it, maybe Malik Willis didn't close his hands fast enough. I mean, I, I don't know. I don't know. Cuz Jordan Love has taken a thousand goddamn snaps and it hasn't been one center exchange where there's been an issue. And all of a sudden there's one tonight. And obviously certain things they have to go right, and that was one of them. They had to go right in the Bears favor for them to even have an opportunity and a chance to win this game, including the goddamn onside kick.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When you fall behind, Ocho, you have to. As the behind team, you have to do everything right. Because if they mess it up, Ocho, how many times have we said, oh, the game was right there for the taking. Such and such did this, such and such did that. But you didn't take advantage of the opportunity. So if you're the behind team from the time you're behind, you have to do everything. Right now, as the team that's in the lead, you need. Because all they need is a look in the momentum because realize you're on the road. So what happens? Oo now all of a sudden, the crowd gets back in the game. You had the crowd at bay for the entirety of the game.

[Michael Irvin]

Quiet.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now all of a sudden you got 70,000 fans, they're into it, and then they. They stop you on third. I don't. I don't like the call. I didn't like to call on third down. I think you give the ball. I think you give the ball to a Emmanuel Wilson and you go ahead and get the first down, right? Look, and I'm. I just hate that offset. I just hate. But anyway, that's neither here nor there. But with that being said, Ocho, I think Emmanuel Wilson, you give him the ball both times and you say, offensive line, we need one yard. Yeah, we need one yard. Now we get a new set of downs. They. It didn't happen. I think the Bears. The Bears. Bears. A lot give. Deserves a lot of credit.

[Michael Irvin]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But Malik Willis showed me something because when I'm looking at him in Tennessee, we didn't see this Malik Willis, so it might be something in Tennessee. Mike Brable was his coach. They didn't want him. He looked like a very, very competent quarterback. He looks like he can be a starter. Yeah, I can look around the league and he's better than some people. Starters might be the system, it might be Green Bay and what they have to offer. But Ocho, he looks very competent right now.

[Michael Irvin]

Now, you heard what you just said. It might be the system or it might be what Green Bay has to offer. Uncle, you got to look what he has around him, look at what he has surrounding him. Look at the personnel, look at the offensive line, look at the running back, look at the receiver, the receiving core. So you're going to look like a competent quarterback when you're playing for a team from top to bottom that understands how to build a team where you can compete week in and week out. Of course, I mean, when's the last Tennessee. When is the last time Tennessee has a team that's been structurally built from the top to bottom, you know, to be able to compete week to week. There's a reason it was picking number one in the draft last year. There's a reason why. So they're not going to look the same. And unless you're Superman, you can't go to a team that's not structurally built the right way. You got to be Superman to make them look good, if that makes sense.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Bears take control of the NFC North. Ocho. Yeah, 11 and 4. They're a game behind the Seattle Seahawks that are 12 and 3. But there are two games in front of the Green Bay packers now. Well, they're game and a half because Green Bay has a tie, right? Actually, yeah. Well, theoretically that's two games because you know, they only have four in the lost column and you got one, you got five in the lost column and one in the tie column. So there are two games ahead of Green Bay and there are three games in the win column ahead of Detroit. We'll see what Detroit does tomorrow. But if they win one of these last two, one of their last two ballgames, they're going to win the nf, they're going to win the NFC north. And they'll be the number. They have a. They'll be the number two seed.

[Michael Irvin]

Oh yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The New York Jets. Ocho are benching Justin Fields for backup Tyrod Taylor. The moves comes following the 2714 lost the Patriots last Thursday night. The game in which fields threw for 116 yards on 15 or 26 passing field signed a two year 40 million dollar deal with the jets last spring. The contract guarantees him 20 million in 25 and another 10 million in 26. Ocho does this bench and suggest that the Justin Field experiment is officially over?

[Michael Irvin]

Yes, it does. And I hate that for young Bull. I'm just gonna be honest, I hate that for him. And not only is the experiment over, it puts the Jet back in. It put the jets back in the same position that they've been in for a very long time since Joe Namath is in search of a quarterback number one, they're back in search of quarterback number one. I really, I really was pulling no for Justin Fields and hoping this would be his season to have his own team. Things didn't go well with the Bears. He went To Pittsburgh, we saw flashes. We saw flashes of brilliance leading that Pittsburgh Steeler team offensively to a 42 record. Before he was bench for Russell Wilson, that Mike Tomlin had said would be the starter once he gets back healthy. Now, Justin Fields, this is your team. You quarterback number one. You have nothing to worry about. You don't have to look over your shoulder. You can play freely, you know, just minimize your mistakes, protect the ball, and try to run that offense as efficient as you possibly can. And to this point, we're in week 10. Damn near, if I'm not mistaken. Week 10. Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We better head into week 12.

[Michael Irvin]

Oh, well, we in week 12 and just.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, week 13. Yeah. This is week 12. Yeah.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah. I mean, and by the end of the week.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, week 12.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah. At this point, based on the numbers, what you've seen, We've talked about it all the time. You know, having games where you got 20, 30 yards at the half.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, man. Come on, man. 45 yards passing, NFL quarterback. Yeah, okay, okay, once I get that. But Ocho, back to back, Back to back, man.

[Michael Irvin]

No, and. And let's. And sometimes when I think about it, it's like. Sometimes I think they sabotaging them, you know, But I know that's not the case. I know. Not the case. Because they. They can only sabotage you so much. You know, it. I know it hurt. I. I hurt for Young Bull because he. He's really. He really won the opportunity to be quarterback number one, and it just hadn't panned out or worked out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No. Had he been close.

[Michael Irvin]

The jets is probably one of the worst situations to go to because you have.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Clearly, you got.

[Michael Irvin]

You have to be that much better at the quarterback position than everything around you. You got to. You got to be able to elevate everybody else around you. And he's not that kind of quarterback, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Aaron Rodgers and Devonte Adams couldn't help him.

[Michael Irvin]

Oh, that's a good one. That's a good one. That's. That's a good one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you put that. That green and white on. You already know Damn.

[Michael Irvin]

Well, listen, Tyrod, you know, proven veteran. Tyrod gonna get in there, and the one thing about him, you know, he gonna move.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, you're letting by now. Let it go.

[Michael Irvin]

You're gonna move that ball, too. He gonna move that ball. I wonder who the jets got this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Week who did just play. The Ravens.

[Michael Irvin]

Oh, hell no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, in Baltimore, Tyrod. Hey, that's what Tyrod started. Remember? Tyrod was the backup to Joe Pleco.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah, The Joe. Yeah, yeah, I remember. Yep, sure was.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And he started in Buffalo. He took Buffalo to the playoffs. But people forget that.

[Michael Irvin]

That's right. Yeah, that's right. That's right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. Jeff Simmons said he's tired of sugar coating things and is sick of the Titans not playing complimentary football. Let's take a listen to what Jeffrey Simons had to say. We need to be better. I mean we can't keep sitting up here saying the same thing, trying to sugarcoat it for the media, for no anybody. And I said in the lockdown, him, I said it on the field. I'm tired of sugar coat. And we need to be better at the end of the day, we need to protect count better. Simple. There was a defense when knowing if you give up two touchdowns or you know, or whatever that it's going to be hard to win, man. At the end of the day, it's about complimenting football. We have to play better team football. We sometime offense be playing good, sometime the defense. How can we play good as a team?

[LifeLock Announcer]

Pretty face.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We not playing good team football right now.

[Odoo Announcer]

And it's showing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And Mike, Mike said in the practice Friday we had freaking four false starts Friday. We playing at home. We shouldn't have that many false starts. Don't care. Tired of Taylor feelings. I'm tired of losing. That's what I'm tired of doing.

[Michael Irvin]

Oh, man, he frustrated, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Yeah. He talking about the offensive line. Is it how we have that many false starts and we play it at home?

[Michael Irvin]

Playing at home. Yeah. You shouldn't, you shouldn't have any because the noise is on your side or the lack of noise is on your side. Especially when the office is out there on the field. It shouldn't be any issues. I understand what he's, what he's saying. And the key, the key word that he kept saying over and over is complimentary. You know, offense play well, defense play well. There has to be some type of balance on both sides. Now you're not gonna execute on every, every single drive. Not every single drive, but meet me halfway, meet me halfway. Keep us off the field for a little bit. Don't go three and out 30 goddamn three times. I'm just, I'm just throwing that number out there. But, but in general, defense is tired. Give us a chance to rest. Let's put together some drives, some consecutive drives together, you know, give us a chance. They're not even with the way they're playing, they're not even getting themselves a chance to win games now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It was a Little position to get the number one pick again next this year. I mean, in 26, Ocho.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah, and now my dog hurts.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Gotta suck to get the back to back number one picks.

[Michael Irvin]

Hey, that's tough. Well, hell, you know how bad you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Are to have Bengals territory. You are in old Colts territory.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah, but.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh. Cause you know y' all did that, right? Don't yo, Who? The Bengals.

[Michael Irvin]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Hey, Bangles bad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Johnny Carter, Big daddy Dan Wilkinson.

[Michael Irvin]

Hey, the Bengals was bad, huh? I'm talking about back then.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You do realize I was in the league where y' all was terrible.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y' all come a long way, Ocho.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah, we have. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The Colts was terrible, too. Don't. Hey, the Patriots was terrible, too.

[Michael Irvin]

Terrible.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, a lot of terrible.

[Michael Irvin]

They were bad. They were bad. Hey, but. But Tennessee got a long way to go, huh? You know how bad you had.

[Ryan Seacrest]

And.

[Michael Irvin]

Hey, you heard me. You know how bad you had to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Be or save the team. Hold on, Ocho. I'm trying to think who the last team to have back to back number one overall picks. So, like we said, like the Bengals, right. Did with. I think it was Kajana Carter and big daddy Dan Wilkerson. Damn.

[Michael Irvin]

What happened?

[Shannon Sharpe]

The same team has done it twice.

[Michael Irvin]

Who was that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Done it twice. Back to back number ones overall.

[Michael Irvin]

Oh, just the Bengals.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, you give me the years, I'm probably gonna get it. Oh, yeah. With Tim Couch and the guy from Penn State.

[Michael Irvin]

Oh, Cleveland.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Baker Mayfield and Miles Garrett.

[Michael Irvin]

Oh.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What was the defensive lineman? Courtney Brown, if I'm not mistaken. I think Courtney went one and. And what you call him went two, didn't he? Yeah, didn't. Didn't Levard go to. To Washington after Courtney because they was on the same team. I think just like the Colts had the first two picks, and they took Steve Entman and they took the guy from Texas, A. Quentin Corriot, To Washington. Yeah.

[Orangetheory Fitness Announcer]

Three.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wow. Chris Samuel, the offensive lineman. Yeah, Man. Yeah, it's tough. Oo. And.

[Michael Irvin]

And.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And. And. And that's where you got to have real strong leadership, because when one side is pulling their weight and the other side ain't pulling their weight.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Frustration start to bubble.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah. Tennessee.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got to have some real, real, real, real strong.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Tennessee leadership.

[Michael Irvin]

Tennessee has some chances to win that game. So.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They did. They did. They absolutely did. Yeah, they absolutely did. Oh, Joe. Bill's wide receiver, Keon Coleman, is reportedly likely to be inactive for the second consecutive game. Keon is expected to sit tomorrow against Texans. According to Eric Turner of COVID 1, earlier in the week, coach Sean McDermott said he needs to see Keon show growth to get back on the field. On Thursday night against the Texans, the Bills are likely to go with Joshua Palmer, Elijah Moore, Tyrell Shavers, Khalil Shakira, and Gabe Davis as active.

[Michael Irvin]

Hey, listen, they, they. They going with the veterans. They're going with the veterans. Hey, listen, obviously as a rookie, you know, you. You want to come in and make your impact, but they have players that are a little bit more impactful, a little bit more impactful than you are you, and bring a little. A little bit more to the table than you do. So, you know, obviously, I mean, at this point, we going into week 12, week 13, whatever it may be, I mean, it's. It's already set in stone. I mean, anything that you could have shown or. Or prove that you could do, you haven't done it to. To date, which is why they're comfortable making you inactive, showing you that we can get the job done without you, especially as productive as they were offensively last week without you. Hell, you know, that the. Well, shoot, we don't need them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I got a great story, Ocho. I got a great story to tell you and Joe.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah. We had, what, five, six touchdowns and you didn't play so well. Hell, but what's the point? See?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Up 6, 317 yards.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah. Hey, so, hey, you know what that means to me? All it says is, keon, Coleman, young Bull, I know you're gonna see this. You know I love you to death. We talk all the time. Come on down here with me. In the offseason. Come on down here with me. Nausea. And I guarantee you they'll never sit you down again. Even if you do miss a meeting, you'll be too valuable for them. And what you bring to the table on a Sunday for them to sit you down, come on down here, work with your boy. Now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I remember my rookie season, Dennis Smith, number 49, Ocho, we call him Kahuna. And Kahuna, I mean, he was one of the guys that, from the time I got there, he always. I don't know what it was, but the veteran players, a lot of the veteran players that were really good took a liking to me. Him, Elway, I mean. I mean, veteran players. Huna got there in. In 81. John got there, obviously in 83 with the trade through Baltimore, but they, the best, took a liking to me. And I remember him saying, sharp, never let them see they can win without you. Oh, that's why I shot up a lot of times, because I didn't want my backup to get in. And then all of a sudden, he played well. And then all of a sudden, they figured they can move on from me. So that was also another reason that I shot up. But I never forget him saying that. He said, sharp, never let them see that they can win without you. If you notice who adopts that. The quarterbacks. Brady take every rep. Peyton Manning took every rep. Brett Favre took every rep. Drew Brees took every rep. You not going to see if that guy can play or he can't play.

[Michael Irvin]

Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because I'm never gonna give you an opportunity to let you see if he can play. You just got to go on your instinct. Cause I ain't coming out of there. See what Keon Coleman did, He allowed them to let Terrell Shavers get on the field, show we can win without him. Now, once they find out they can win without you, guess what they'll do, Ocho Win without you, and they'll move on. Now he. The coach says, I need to see growth. We having a conversation about a guy in the second year that shows growth. Now I'm gonna tell you, look, got a great personality.

[Michael Irvin]

Hey, the best.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But after a while, people gonna start. They'll be gonna be laughing at you. You talk about, guess what, this jacket. Guess where I got this jacket from. I'm gonna go back. It's funny. Kiki Ki. But at the end of the day, you better be putting some points on the board. You better be getting some yards, you better be getting some catches. You better get some. Some sacks and interceptions. You better do something other than make them laugh. Because they gonna say, you need to go to the Improv. You need to be at the Laugh Factory, because the football field ain't where you need to be right at the end of the day, as my good friend Glow say, the day gonna end. And when it ends, you better have catches, yards, and touchdowns. If you play on the opposite side of football as a skill position player. And they. They not playing. They not. Hey, Oto, it's too much money involved. Because before you know it, they're gonna have to make an investment. 20, 25, 30, 35, $40 million.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And they say, hold on. You doing this and you on your rookie contract, what's gonna happen? We give you 30 million, Ojo.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah. Yeah, you're right. You got. You got to be special. They got to be something about you, Joe. They got to be something about you as a receiver. That separates you. Everybody play receiver, everybody can run, everybody can, can catch. What is it about you that makes you that much more valuable and better than the next man? It got to be one thing. You ain't got to be a bunch. You got to be one thing that separates you from everybody else. Hey, Unk. Joe. You know, on every, on every NFL team, there's a number one receiver and there's a number two receiver. There's something about that number one receiver that the number two can't do. Whatever it may be, they both play the same position, but one is a little better than the other. You have to find that one niche. It got just, just one, Joe. That's it. That's all it takes. And they got to find it. His personality is so big. It's so big. If we can get his game on the field to match his personality, though. Oh my God. Hey, Joe, I'm talking about. It's two, it's two players I want to work with so bad, Joe, so bad. Because I know if I can get them anywhere close to how their personality is in front of that camera off the field, they. We talk about all world. We talk about all world. They can be in a conversation of top 5 based on if they can get their skill set up the part and match their personality. Yeah, John Coleman is one. The other one is Xavier legged. Hey, listen, hey, them boys, them boys electric when that camera's in front of them, boy, if I, if, if I can get their game to match they personality, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, okay. Oo. I like Keon Coleman and this could be a wake up call for him, you know, for, for him to be a healthy scratch again. Like, you know, you know, what could potentially be coming next down the pipe, man, this should, this should make him really look at himself in the mirror and get to work and be like, man, when I get back out there, I got to get them boys hell. You know what I mean? So, yeah, I'm hoping, I'm hoping he takes some good from this bro. Cause I seen him over there dancing and all that when he knew he was out. Hey, look, that irked me, man. I tell my son who in college, I say, hey, bro, they. They watching you. Even when you don't think they watching you, boy, they watching you. Yeah, they watching you. So you sit over there and mope, pout, and do all that, man. No folks watching, man.

[Michael Irvin]

Always you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We've all been here. The longer you go without something, the easier it is to be without something. The longer they play without Keon in that lineup, the easier it becomes to them to play without him in the lineup. Give you a prime example. You saw they say CD and, and, and, and, and, and pick went out. Yeah. Now if that's the third, fourth and fifth receiver, they're not even playing right. But that's the one and two receiver. They miss a series. You see the difference?

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Jimmy Johnson. Say Jimmy Johnson cut a guy for sleeping in the meeting. The reporter said, with Jimmy, if that was Troy and he was sleeping the meeting, what would you have done? He said, I woke his ass up. One guy get cut, the other guy, the other guy get woken up. They ask Mike, what about, you know, you, you say you lead the players if they're not there? Well, what if it's, what if it's td? What if it's Sharp? What if it's airway? Well, that's the one thing about charting the flight. They wait on you. We gonna wait. But you, you understand the level of importance by some of the things that you can get away with. But, but I'm gonna be on time because I need to be on the back of the plane to make sure when everybody else get on, I see what they're wearing so I can cut the ass up. When they got on the bull job, and that's what my job was. Okay? Get to the plane early so I can see what you got on. You know, if you got on bus too, that's what Sharp was. That's what them. That's what I'm Jonas. Them. Jonas, were it was.

[Michael Irvin]

It was coming, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

If you got on some bullshit, don't you get on bus too. We had culture getting on our bus, man. I just want to see what 80 folk gonna say about what such and such got on. Come to the right place because I would tear his ass up. But Keon, don't you don't, don't you. Don't you. Hey, let us cut you, don't you give us a reason to cut you. Yeah, they will, boy. Do you understand there's a guy in college right now, won't Keon Coleman spot. There's a guy in high school want to be a starting receiver, want to be a receiver on the Buffalo Bills and high school, bruh. And got his head down working dj. This ain't no, this ain't no doctor, no lawyer. You don't get no 30 year career in the NFL. They replaced every year to turnover. That's why the average NFL career is 2.3 years. Even when you get a guy like Aaron Rodgers they got 20 seasons. If you got a guy like Mercedes Lewis, they got 20 seasons in 15 and 18. The average NFL career is 2.3 years.

[Michael Irvin]

That's it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So how many guys in order for that 20 and 18 and 15. Ocho to drag it down to 2.3. That means a lot of guys play in one year or not even playing at all.

[Michael Irvin]

At all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Absolutely. Hey, look at it. Look, look, look at the NBA. It's 450 guys every year. Not just this year, not last year, every year. So if they got 50 new guys coming in every year, guess what? They gotta have at least 50 going out. 50 guys gotta go. It's 450 guys. It's only 450 guys every year, bro.

[Michael Irvin]

Hey, that's why you got to stay on top of your game. That's why you got to continuously train.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's it. And don't give them a reason to.

[Michael Irvin]

Got to get better.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho. Tonight. This game wasn't close. Jackson dart did it with his arm and his leg. Scat pack was sensational. 19 carries, 98 yards, three touchdown. Jackson Dart, 13 carries, 58 yards. Another touchdown. They gained 172 yards on the ground. Jackson Dart was 17 to 25. 195, one touchdown. He was sacked, but he didn't turn the ball over. And when you can turn the ball, when you can take care of the football and you play, you have a great chance of winning. Jalen Hurst was 24, 33, 283, one touchdown. Ocho, what we say about that late ball, if you latent inside is going the other way every time and it almost did. They ran the ball 20 times for 73 yards, but they ran this the tush push four times in a row. They got a touchdown on it. Dallas Garden has seven catches, 110 yards, a touchdown. A.J. brown has six for 80. Devonte Smith, who Jalen hurts overthrew, had, would have had like a 90 yard touchdown, but he had 4 for 49. Ocho. The Giants just. The Giants did whatever they wanted to do.

[Michael Irvin]

Both sides of the ball too at that. On both sides of the ball at that. For one, I want to talk about Jackson Dart. I want to tell you how good Jackson Dart looks as a, as a rookie. Obviously Russell Wilson started the season for the Giants, but when Jackson Dart got his opportunity, he came in and closed the door right behind him. Yep, he's making the throws, he's reading, he's improvising, he's escaping, he's eluding, he's using his Legs. He's using his arm. His best weapon went down with knee injury. But you wouldn't know that his best weapon offensively outside of Scatterbow, was hurt. Jackson Dart is a real deal and he's very exciting. The combination of him and Scatterbow together, it's like two little kids. It's like two little kids out there on the playground just enjoying the game of football at the highest level. And it's refreshing. It's refreshing for the Giants fans, as you can see and you can hear. You know, you watch. You watch. You watch the game with the sound off, but just. Just watching the reaction and the sound of the Giant.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, they going. I can see the fans when they panning and the fans go, they. I'm sure they're saying bo, like for Scatterbow, Scat Pack was doing his thing. Jackson Dart, I'm sure they're howling dark. Look, this was. Look. And we'll get to this. Oo. Because the Eagles didn't play well and they got some issues and we tried to tell them about the issues that they have, but you know what? Ooh. But you can't tell Giants fan anything because if you. If I critique Jalen hurts. You don't like black people. You don't say this about white quarterbacks. If I critique the team, I'm jealous. I'm envious. Okay, fine. I should have your undivided attention because I couldn't get your attention at first because you winning. You see that when you win it, you can't get nobody's attention. Now I should have your undivided attention because you lost twice. Yes, the Giants, they got the makings of a good team. The only thing that concerns me, Ocho, is pressure. There were times back there that Jalen.

[Michael Irvin]

Hurst was just sitting there patting the.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ball and two of the three and two of the four pass rushers was on the ground. They've got to generate pressure because they don't have elite on the back end. And so you should be able. When you got D. Lawrence, when you got Thibodeau, when you got Abdul Carter, that should be more than enough to create pressure, to create havoc. And not nearly. And I forgot Brian Burns.

[Michael Irvin]

Brian Burns.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, that should be enough. More than enough to create havoc. Not enough havoc was created tonight. You won the game. But in order for you to keep building on this, you got 10 week, you got 10 days off. You get an opportunity to soak in this. I'm sure the Giants fans are going crazy, somewhat crazy, because the Yankees lost last night. But if you're a Giant fan, you look at Jackson Dart, you're like, man, he won his first game. He was playing really well against the Saints, and then he started turning the ball over. If we could protect the ball, I think we might got something. Scat Pack was doing what Scat Pack does, he runs hard. He's looking to run through, as Marshawn lynch would say, run through a mofo face. And he runs with authority. He's looking to deliver a blow. He, when he blocked, he's blocking all out. When he's running, he's running all out. He missed a couple of cuts early, but, hey, all is forgiven. He was a rookie. He'll get better as time progresses. But I thought the Giants offensive line, Ocho, remember we talked about that thing was a sieve that, hey, people just coming to a, you gonna block him. But they did a great. I thought they did a better job tonight of protecting Jackson Dart. He did a great job of avoiding the rush. When he needed to run, he got rid of got. He got out of the pocket. When he needed to throw the ball away, he threw it away. I like what I saw from the New York Football Giants. Wandell Robinson had himself a game, a little John Humphrey. I thought he made some plays tonight, Ocho, but, I mean, what can we say? The Giants, I mean, I don't think anybody really had picked the Giants to win this game, but it just goes to show you, hey, you take care of the football and it's a, it's a division game, Mojo. It's a rival game. You know, you throw workers out the window when you play in a rival now.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah, most definitely. Most definitely. But listen, if you, you, you also understand, if you're a betting man, if you're a bed man, you're definitely picking the Eagles.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. Well, I wonder what the line was. What was the bet? You know what the line was, Ocho. No, I, I, it had to be proud to be at least, I'm thinking at least four, four and a half.

[Michael Irvin]

Listen, you, you're going against a rookie quarterback, defending super bowl champs, everybody named. I'm gonna probably pick the Eagles to actually win this game. But when you have a quarterback like Jackson Dart, who has been as exciting as he is, who has been unpredictable as he's been since he's gotten the starting job, I mean, for those who actually know and understand the game of football, and based on the small sample size of Jackson Dart that we've been able to see, you throw caution to win, when you come to Bedding against the Giants, especially after tonight's performance. So going forward, you know, I think things are going to change a little bit when it comes to watching, not only watching the Giants, but putting whatever money you want to on them to win a certain game or Pacific game at that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It seems like the line was seven, seven and a half. Depend on where you was batting, who you was betting, you know, where you, you know, who, what line you took. I'm confused. Ocho, talk to me.

[Michael Irvin]

Wait, hold on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wait.

[Michael Irvin]

Before you say anything, let me get comfortable.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm confused as to what they're doing with A.J. brown. I watched a man run two unders in a row. I'm like, is that the only route y' all believe A.J. brown can run? He run under, he run. They try to run him on like a little. A little six, seven yard out. But I don't see no imagination in the routes. I don't see no magic, no creativity in the calls. Look, they running smash concepts. They run. They run this, they run the sale and then they run. They run the spot, what we call a spot route. Or they'll run. They'll run. They'll run the out and then they'll run to under. Or devonte would try starting to slot and he'll run fake, run the fade, or he'll run the smash route. I mean, here. And. And Brown would run. I'm like, damn. Yeah, if I'm. Jalen Hurst said, man, I'm tired of running these damn under routes. Give me a dig, give me a comeback. Give me a deep over. Give me something. Hey, run a bang. Yeah, we ain't got no bangs.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah, I. I will say they made. They made a conscious effort to give him the ball. They made a conscious effort to give him the ball in, in. In the first half. And there were some plays that broken down where he was able to scramble out the pocket and get, get the ball to AJ it wasn't many of them, but he had a. He had a better, better stat line this, this week. You know, this game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Second best most yards he's had. You know, he had that 100 yard game against the Rams where they were down by a lot at the half. And then they came out, made a conscious effort like, we gotta throw the ball because we can't run ourselves back in the ball game. And it's like, okay, A.J. so he had 6 for 80. Dallas Goddard had 6, 9 for 110. Smitty would have been over 100 had Jaylen not overthrew him. He put A little bit too much gas up under devonte. Ran a really good route, had him. I mean he could have walked back was and got into the end zone because it looked like his defender had fallen down. Oo.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When you, when, when you look at the Eagles, what's going on? Clearly. Clearly that meeting didn't help. Yeah, I don't know what they discussed. I don't care to know. 3417. It's been a while since the Eagles lost the game. By that and this game was. This game wouldn't. I mean, this thing got on the head quick.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah, it did. It did. And I would think some. Obviously, I think we'll start up front with some of the pieces to that offensive line being missing small holes that you. That you try to cover up. You know, weak links that you try to cover up, but you just can't. There's a reason why Saquon Barkley isn't being as successful in the running game as he was last year.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because he wasn't. Oo you. You knew they. Oo you thought they gonna let that man come back and rush for another 2,000.

[Michael Irvin]

Hey, you do understand the Eagles do have the best offensive line in the league.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, but effort. What did I tell you? If you're gonna beat me, you gonna beat me with Jaylen Hurst throwing the football. Oh, yeah, because I like my chances better beating you with him throwing the football than say, Quan Barkley running for 125 a game. Right. It's really that simple. And that's not a knock. I'm not gonna let. But I'm not gonna let you have a two way go of it. Not say Quan's running it. Now you play action and throw the ball over the top of my head. Nah, nah, nah. If he's gonna throw the ball with pinpoint accuracy. And guess what I'm gonna do, Ojo? I'm gonna leave. I'm not gonna bring. I'm not gonna drop eight in the box. I'm not gonna throw one on one. I'm gonna make you throw through zones. I'm gonna make you throw the coverage. Now, you do that consistently, okay? I tilt my hat to you.

[Michael Irvin]

I can live with that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I am not going to let Saquon do what he did last year and then be at your mercy. Now, you throw when you want to. You run when you want to. You got me begging, man, throw the ball, man. Run the ball. Nah, hell no. You gonna beg for something different? Look, it's early in the season, but clearly something Is something is amiss with the Eagles. It's hard to pick right up where you left off, Ocho. And someone that has been in that situation, you have to. You have to really. You have to really turn your mind off to like, man, we won the Super Bowl. Yeah, you did that last year. You think these teams gonna roll over just cause you won the Super Bowl? You're their super bowl this year.

[Michael Irvin]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The teams that didn't win the super bowl, guess what? When they see your ass on the schedule now, that gives us, you know what Brian Daball said. That's the defending super bowl champs, and we just hung 34 on them. You see, when we play, we can beat anybody in this league. That's what they're saying, because that's the Eagles. That's the defending super bowl champ. So now teams based their. Their. They. Based on how good they are on whether or not they beat them.

[Michael Irvin]

And. And now you see why now. Now this gives you a better reason why. Why Jalen hurts when they ask him about the super bowl and how it feels to be champs, why he throws it out the door. That was last year.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Absolutely.

[Michael Irvin]

Because he understood how difficult it would be to not only repeat, but to have the same success going into this team.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Same way, same now.

[Michael Irvin]

Now we're seeing the struggles that they are having being that they're not at full strength, especially at the offensive line. Some of the defensive pieces are a little different than they were last year, and things are different. New offensive coordinator, he. Things have to evolve offensively. You know, you can't be too predictable. Last year, because the running game was so efficient, you could damn near do what you want to do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Exactly.

[Michael Irvin]

And you can throw it when you want to. You got to pick your poison on what you want to do. Now things are a little different. And now you're going to get to see the better part of the Eagles.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You have to dig down, Ocho. We gotta dig.

[Michael Irvin]

Yeah. They can do one or two things. You can come together and fix it, or things are going to continue to splinter.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. And we're not going to make no excuses. Oh, the Eagles beat themselves, it looked like to me. The Giants had 34 and the Eagles had 17. It didn't say Eagles one had 34 and Eagles two had 17.

[Michael Irvin]

Right, right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ain't no. Ain't no big. Beat yourself because, see, that's the excuses you make. Last week, they had a man they should have called past interference. That was a past interference. You see what happens, Ocho, if you. If you lose by a little. I can go back and point the faith. Well if he had done this, we had done that. But see when I beat hell at you, what you gonna say? So what? Pass interference? That would have made up 17 points. What holding call man, they were hell, they was holding. So what holding call would have made up 17 points. What did I miss? What offsides? What penalty that they didn't call? That would have made up for 17 points. Oh, I feel. I feel bad for my guy. Gilly.

[Michael Irvin]

Gonna be all right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

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