NFL ’25 BEST MOMENTS Part 2: Shedeur Sanders MADNES, DK Metcalf SUSPENDED, Phillip Rivers Returns, End of the Chiefs Dyanasty?

Summary

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Club Shay Shay – NFL ’25 BEST MOMENTS Part 2: Shedeur Sanders Madness, DK Metcalf Suspended, Phillip Rivers Returns, End of the Chiefs Dynasty?

Date: January 8, 2026
Hosts: Chad Johnson & Ocho Cinco (Chad’s co-host)
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts and Shay Shay Media

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into major storylines from the close of the NFL’s 2025 season, bringing Chad Johnson and Ocho Cinco’s trademark insight, honesty, and humor. They tackle topics ranging from social media drama around Browns QB Shedeur Sanders, the fallout from DK Metcalf’s infamous suspension, a look at Phillip Rivers’ surprising NFL return at age 44, and whether the Kansas City Chiefs’ dynasty is finally over. Detailed commentary includes breakdowns of key games, locker room dynamics, the challenges of modern athletes, and real-time reactions to the league's latest dramatic moments.

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Discussion Breakdown

1. The Dylan Gabriel/Shedeur Sanders Quarterback Controversy & Social Media Fallout

Timestamps: 02:20 – 16:04

• Social Media Drama: Chad and Ocho dissect the drama ignited when Browns backup QB Dylan Gabriel’s fiancée took to social media to voice her frustrations over his lack of playing time. Both emphasize the ripple effect of family and significant other comments in the social-media era.
  • “How would she know? Everybody in the building wants him to play?” – Chad Johnson (03:16)
  • “Anything that gets said out of her mouth that relates back to football… that relates back to football is going to tie back to him. And you don't want to put that kind of stress…” – Chad Johnson (12:34)
• Locker Room Confidentiality: They reflect on how even innocent venting can backfire, leading to perceptions that the player is feeding narratives to outsiders.
  • “Back then there was no social media your significant other could go to... Now there's this platform where they can go and disseminate information all across the world—instantaneous.” – Chad Johnson (04:35)
• Advice to Young Couples: Both hosts urge family and significant others of athletes to exercise caution online. Ocho highlights that players’ partners often have to “play the background”—unsung but vital.
  • “Some understand they have to play the background…they're not the main character.” – Ocho Cinco (14:32)

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2. Browns vs. Bears: Analysis & Shedeur Sanders’ Growing Pains

Timestamps: 19:37 – 34:18

• Chicago Dominance: Chicago Bears demolish the Browns 31-3, credited to swarming defense and capitalizing on Shedeur’s three interceptions.
  • “He’s not going to outrun defenses... You’re not your father, Shedeur. You don’t have that kind of athleticism.” – Chad Johnson (20:33)
• Shedeur’s Rookie Lessons: Ocho emphasizes Sanders needs to play to his strengths and avoid NFL-caliber defensive ends on the edge.
  • “You got to play within your strengths…He’s got great pocket presence, great pocket awareness. But trying to outrun the D-ends? Not gonna work.” – Ocho Cinco (21:45)
• Receiver Accountability: Chad calls out Jerry Jeudy for dropping a catchable pass resulting in an interception: “He hit Judy in the chest...it can be an incompletion, but it can’t be an interception.” (23:16)
• Contextualizing Growing Pains: The hosts cut Shedeur some slack with context—only one starting OL left from the season’s start—but warn that patience won’t last.
  • “Moving forward, next year, in the same position, we won’t know—you can’t make those mistakes.” – Chad Johnson (25:42)
• Offensive Line Importance: Chad illustrates Chicago’s transformation after investing in their offensive line and ties it to franchise quarterbacks’ success.
  • “You build your team front to back. I don’t give a damn who your quarterback is, let him not get protected and see what happens.” – Chad Johnson (27:53)

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3. The Browns’ Curious Play-Calling, Wristband Fiasco

Timestamps: 29:41 – 35:57

• Wristband Drama: During the game, reports came out Browns coaches removed Sanders’ wristband due to concerns about the play script.
  • “How you remove the wristband and add plays to a wrist? ... I’ve never heard anything like this in my life.” – Chad Johnson (30:12)
• Coach-Speak: They review Coach Stefanski’s post-game response and note that questions about the wristband were dodged.
  • “A coach is always gonna be PC...they’re never going to tell us the truth.” – Ocho Cinco (32:39)
• Preparation Red Flags: Both hosts admit they’ve never seen this kind of miscommunication with NFL-level prep.
  • “If I’m Jimmy Haslam, I’m gonna need some answers.” – Chad Johnson (34:59)

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4. DK Metcalf Suspended for Confronting Fan

Timestamps: 38:33 – 51:01

• Incident Recap: DK Metcalf received a two-game suspension after physically confronting a Lions fan—potentially voiding $40M in guarantees.
  • “If the suspension holds, he voids 40 million in future guaranteed money.” – Chad Johnson (38:36)
  • “No matter what they say, you should not touch a fan.” – Ocho Cinco (41:49)
• Player Accountability & Era Differences: Ocho argues earlier eras relished verbal trash talk with fans and wouldn’t let it get personal. Chad, however, highlights every player’s reaction is different and some insults cross lines.
  • “There’s really nothing you could say that'd get me angry before I tell your ugly ass, I love you anyway!” – Ocho Cinco (44:42)
  • “What is a joke to you is death to someone else.” – Chad Johnson (49:31)
• Advice for Athletes: Both hosts recommend getting security involved over personal retaliation.
  • “If a fan says something you deem inappropriate, just call NFL security and get their ass removed.” – Chad Johnson (48:42)
  • “Or fellow NFL players, get your roast game up! Go out there and exchange pleasantries…” – Ocho Cinco (48:42)
• Memorable Quote:
  • “If you give the devil a ride long enough, eventually he gonna drive the car.” – Chad Johnson (46:33)

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5. Phillip Rivers’ Comeback at 44

Timestamps: 51:01 – 55:43

• Seahawks Outlast Rivers’ Colts: 44-year-old Rivers’ surprise return is discussed; he manages a solid outing but falls to Seattle’s six field goals.
  • “I thought Philip Rivers didn’t play bad…considering Ocho, the man ain’t really had no fear.” – Chad Johnson (52:41)
• Medical Insurance Jokes: Chad jokes that Rivers’ return resets his benefits—a crucial move with 11 kids.
  • “When you got 11 kids...you get five more years [of medical insurance].” – Chad Johnson (52:27)
• JSN’s Rise: Jackson Smith-Njigba praised for a standout season—“That joker is smooth, man.” (54:16)

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6. End of the Kansas City Chiefs Dynasty? Mahomes’ Injury

Timestamps: 55:43 – 64:13

• Mahomes Out, Chiefs Eliminated: Patrick Mahomes’ torn ACL injury dooms the Chiefs, who had already been struggling.
  • “A lot of changes need to be made…I think they stuck with this roster far too long.” – Chad Johnson (57:12)
• Offensive Weaknesses: Both hosts agree offensive line and running back are glaring issues.
• Wide Receiver Blues: JuJu and Rasheed Rice called out; Chad laments KC’s lack of a true #1 receiver.
• Comparisons to Brady: Ocho draws historical parallels between Brady’s and Mahomes’ knee injuries, both coming after their third Super Bowl win in Year 9.
• Buffalo’s Window Opens: Discussion turns to whether this could finally be Buffalo’s year, given changes at the top of the AFC.
  • “I wouldn’t be surprised if this is Buffalo’s year.” – Ocho Cinco (60:43)

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7. NFL Playoff Clutch Genes, the Ravens, Steelers, and Kicking Pressure

Timestamps: 69:26 – 74:19

• Steelers win the North: Pittsburgh seizes the division after a rookie kicker’s clutch miss thwarts the Ravens.
  • “When you go to practice, they do one thing since training camp. They kick the ball. That’s it.” – Ocho Cinco (70:24)
• Importance of Elite Kickers: Extended discussion of how Adam Vinatieri helped define clutch—drilling Super Bowl and playoff winners.
  • “That’s why Adam Venateri is going to the Hall—can you get more clutch than that?” – Chad Johnson (73:29)
• Ravens Defensive Issues: Debate on whether Baltimore’s defense or corners are to blame; consensus is they need pass rush help.
  • “You need a guy that can win one-on-one, Ocho.” – Chad Johnson (75:45)
• Lamar’s Limitations: Both observe Lamar seemed less explosive, likely impacted by injury.
  • “Lamar Jackson looked like he had a piano on his back.” – Chad Johnson (80:23)

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8. Rapid-fire: Draft Classes, NFL Culture, Monday Night Playoff Games

Timestamps: 82:46 – 86:44

• Best NFL Draft Debates: Playful banter about which draft class was the best—2011 with Cam Newton, Julio, Sherman, Von Miller, etc., or 2001 with “Chad Javon Johnson, the greatest entertainer.”
• Monday Night Playoff Novelty: Chad and Ocho hype up an upcoming Monday night playoff and their plans to “make their presence felt.”
• Style Talk: Ocho is excited about dressing up for upcoming events, poking fun at Chad’s advance knowledge.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Social Media Impact:
  “Everything you say that's related to football is going to be tied back to him—it's not fair to him.” – Chad Johnson (12:34)
• On embracing the trash talk:
  “Go out there and exchange pleasantries with these fans at away games. Have some fun with it.” – Ocho Cinco (48:42)
• On Phil Rivers’ longevity:
  “You can play a position that doesn’t require athleticism. You not playing that at corner, at receiver, at safety… only quarterback!” – Chad Johnson (55:48)

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Key Timestamps

• 02:20 – Shedeur Sanders vs. Dylan Gabriel: Social Media Fallout
• 20:00 – Browns/Bears Breakdown, Rookie QB Growing Pains
• 29:41 – Browns’ Play-Calling/Wristband Snafu
• 38:33 – DK Metcalf Suspension, Fan/Player Boundaries
• 51:01 – Phillip Rivers’ Return & Seahawks/Colts Recap
• 55:43 – Chiefs Elimination, Mahomes Injury, End of Dynasty?
• 69:26 – Ravens/Steelers, Clutch Kickers, Pressure Situations
• 82:46 – Draft Class Debates, Monday Night Playoff Firsts

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Tone & Language

The hosts’ conversation is lively, candid, and direct—often humorous, sometimes irreverent, but always insightful. They don’t shy from calling out players, coaches, or even themselves, and fuse technical football breakdowns with stories and broader perspective on NFL culture. The interplay offers fans both entertainment and education.

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This summary covers the key segments, insights, and takeaways from the episode—ideal for NFL fans looking for straight talk, player perspective, and the latest dramatic headlines as the postseason approaches.

Transcript

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[Chad Johnson]

OCHO I bet Hard knocks wishing they were following the Cleveland Browns around this year now is Dylan Gabriel's significant other jumping into the drama. Tick tock. Saying, my fiance Dylan is not playing. I have thoughts about that, but I'm not going to share it. She then captured another with Brown's loss. What's new? But then this is. He got into a disagreement with a commenter on a post and wrote, actually everyone in the building wants him to play. But you wouldn't know because you're never been into the NFL or coach, right?

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Well, you, you, you know, you. I mean, listen, we see this all the time. We see family, family members display their frustrations, whatever they may be really not understanding how the game works, you know, the ins and outs of it. And you know, she wants her fiance to be on the field. You know, he, he's not on the field. Shador has been chosen to be the quarterback.

[Chad Johnson]

How would she know? Everybody in the building wants him to play.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

I mean, they don't. They've been on the news for how long?

[Chad Johnson]

I'm asking you, how does she know that unless somebody pillow talking.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Oh, come on, man.

[Chad Johnson]

I tell you what, let Chauncey, let, when you's in Cincinnati, let Chauncey say, man, my brother ain't getting the ball. They need to throw the ball to my ball or trade it, right? What you tell me what you think the people in Cincinnati and what the Bengals organization gonna think. Where did that come from?

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Oh, that, that. Did I say something?

[Chad Johnson]

What you mean? I say something? You know they came. That came from you, that even if it didn't, that's what they're going to believe. That's why I always tell family, friends and loved ones, be mindful of what you say because whether they said it or not is going back to them.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Yeah, I mean, we, you know, that's his wife, you know, they have those conversations. I'm sure he does. Of course I want to play. Of course I want to start. You know, you go home and who's the one, who's the one person you have peace and can vent to when it comes to? Would you. Oh, honey. How was your day at work? Well, shit, I ain't starting. Those are conversations that I had between a couple, a husband and wife, a fiance, you know, I mean, that, that's, that's normal. And she's venting and her frustration is about, oh, damn, here we go. What's new? We done lost again.

[Chad Johnson]

But you have to be careful, not Ocho, because back then there was no social media that your significant other could go to. Ah, now there's this platform.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson]

Called social media.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson]

That they can go to and disseminate information all across the world and instantaneous. So even if you were to send and then hit delete, it's gone.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Oh, it's too late.

[Chad Johnson]

It's gone.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

It's too late. Once you hit sentence a rap.

[Chad Johnson]

Man. Lord have mercy.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

I just. I just wish people understood that it's a. It, It. It makes. It put Dylan in a bad spot.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Right.

[Chad Johnson]

Because I don't believe. See, when she said the locker. When she said. Hold on. What did you say? Actually, the building. When she say the building, I don't think. I think it's from locker room up. I don't think it's the locker room down. I don't think it's the locker room. I think it's from above the locker room up the building. I think that's the executive. I think that's the front office. Hold on.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

We already know. We already know that, though. We already know that based on the words versus based on things that have been said, you know? You know that part. But down, down. Down below, where it really matters. The meat and potatoes of the team. You.

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[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

I. I don't need this. I don't. I don't need to say no more because I. I can't. I can't throw anybody else under the bus, you know, like. Like I slipped up long time ago. I. I don't. I don't want to do that again. But. But you. That's. That's what they. That's what they want.

[Chad Johnson]

Just be.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

That's what they want in. Inside that building, the people that's going to war. And I'm not telling you what. I'm not telling you what I heard. I'm telling you what I know.

[Chad Johnson]

What I don't understand is that people need to understand you're not the center of attention. If you weren't dating Dylan Gabriel, how many people you think would know who she is? That's what anybody. Unless you. Taylor Swift. Now, Taylor Swift is a different animal. Everybody know who she is, even if she does not date in draft.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Right?

[Chad Johnson]

But when you look at it, Sierra Russ, okay, that's a different. That's a different dynamic.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Right?

[Chad Johnson]

But when we're talking about somebody that doesn't have that name, that name or brand recognition that you only know. Oh, that's Dylan Gabriel, fiance, Right? Oh, that's such a. That's Ocho's wife, man. That's Ocho's significant other. So anything that gets said out of her Mouth that at Coral, that relates back to football, right? Or Ocho talking ass. That's how it is. I'm sorry. It's just like stuff at work, when stuff come back to work. Oh, I told you that. I told you that. I've seen situations get messy because something got said in the locker room. Somebody went back and told their wife or girlfriend now, and it got.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

And it got all over the place. Huh?

[Chad Johnson]

All over the place.

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[Chad Johnson]

And you know where it came from because we talked about it in the locker room.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Locker room? Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

It ain't none of them. Ain't none of the wives, girlfriends, significant others, fiance's or whatever they want to be within the locker room to hear. So one of you mofo said it.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Running your mind.

[Chad Johnson]

And in that group, it ain't but a small group. It ain't like we talking aloud across the. Across the room, huh? Talking in a small group. Four or five.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, so we're on the practice field.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

It's easy to pinpoint who says something.

[Chad Johnson]

Absolutely, absolutely. I always ask somebody, hey, man, Sean, let me tell you something. I'd be like, okay, who else you told? Man, I ain't told nobody. Cause I don't want you to tell somebody else. And then they get out and then you talk about, I ain't tell nobody. But sharp, you a damn lie. Because if you already told somebody else, don't tell me.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Yeah, hold on, hold on.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, it's. It's Chad. It's just about. It's just a. A bad spot to put your significant other in. In the locker room. Because I'm telling you how athletes think, be it football, basketball, baseball. When something gets out and if team related, they like what she. She must have heard him say that. He's saying that even if it's not true, she could have just been going out on a whim on her own and saying how she feels. Dylan might not have said anything, but they still going to attach it. It's just like anything else. If somebody does something, the first per. The first place they go. Look.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Yeah, yeah. Hey, you see that? Yes, sir.

[Chad Johnson]

First of all, why you got my jersey? Ocho, why you got my jersey?

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Hey, listen. Hey, when I ate. Let me tell you something. When I. When I. Hold on. Let me tell you how I got this jersey.

[Chad Johnson]

Hold on.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Hey, see, when you was out of town, right, when you were traveling and you were doing them alcohol. Hey, listen, you were doing one of them alcohol signings and I had to break in your house, right? And I had to steal my Trophies. Dude, I snatched one of these jerseys up off of you. I snatched one of these jerseys.

[Chad Johnson]

How about we make a trade, huh? How about we make a trade?

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Nah, don't worry about it. I'm gonna keep this. I'm gonna keep this. I mean, I'm gonna keep this for the rest of my trophies. Hey, this the real deal too.

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[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

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[Chad Johnson]

Oh, yeah. Oh, so I got the home in the way.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I like that. I like that. What I tell you what, when you send the rest of my awards, I got you. Yeah, yeah. Hey, I appreciate this. Hey, hey. It's heavy. It's stitched up too. This the real deal, right?

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Hold on, hold on. You see what that? Yeah, yeah. Hey, hey, we. We. We look about the same. See the guns? Yes, sir. Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

I just. Chad, it's kind of like oho. If somebody in jail and they escape. What's the word? The first. The first place they go is where they mama.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

They girl.

[Chad Johnson]

Might not. He ain't got no. He got to be going there, girl.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Hey, think about, think about somebody saying.

[Chad Johnson]

Something and it has to do with the locker room. The first. Even if, even like I said, Ocho, even if that's her, even those are her own thoughts. And she, I, I, I like to believe she's smart enough and she can have her own thoughts.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Right?

[Chad Johnson]

But that's not what people are going to believe.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

No, not, not at all. And I don't, I don't think she's thinking about it that way anyway. She was just more so expressing her feelings based on how she feels about. Want her husband or husband to be, you know, to actually be out there actually playing. So. But she knows she know better now because she gonna get the backlash and then it's gonna fall on Dylan Gabriel and he gonna get pissed. What are you doing? You can't be doing that. You know, they. They're both new to this. They're both new to this and she will understand. You gotta be careful before you, before you hit sin. You got to think because once you hit, it is there for life.

[Chad Johnson]

And guess what else, Ocho? Guess who gonna get asked about this. You think they gonna ask 12 about this?

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

You think they go ask Stefanski about this?

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Of course.

[Chad Johnson]

Don't really have. Shouldn't look. They should be like, okay, what do you guys need to do to get a win? What do you guys need? Blah, blah, blah, right? I got. Now I got. Now I've got to ask answer questions about something. Some. A lady that Ain't. Hey, ain't never. Ain't never only been going to the game to see Dylan.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Now I gotta answer questions about what she said. That ain't got nothing to do that's going to help us win a football game, Mocho. Nothing whatsoever.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Yeah. Hey, it just adds to the circus. Adds unnecessary, unnecessary fuel to the fire.

[Chad Johnson]

So I, I just like Chad. I would just recommend anybody, young ladies, if you, You. You. You dating a guy in college or high school and you guys might be together. Just keep that in mind. Everything you say that's related to football is going to be tied back to him. And you might have your. You might be like. You might be your own person. You. You have your own thoughts, you have your own mind. And I get to talk. I'm. I'm. I can speak freely. But they're going to tie back to him, and that's not fair. And that's not fair to him. And you don't want to put that kind of stress. You don't want to put that kind of pressure, and you don't want to sign, shine that kind of light on him. So just be, Just. Just be mindful of that. That your actions going to reflect back on him. It's going to tie back to him. Just like if you do something out. Oh, man, that's. Man. Oh, man. You see, man, you heard what happened to Ocho Girl, man. You heard, man, Man. Man, they say shot girl was acting a fool in the mall. Yeah, it's. It's different when you date a celeb. Entertainer, actor, actress. It's a different set of rules.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson]

And you have to move differently.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

You gotta abide by.

[Chad Johnson]

You can't like, oh, I move high. You can't do that. You can, because now you can't just think about you. You have to think about that other person and the possible Jeopardy apparels you might put them in. And I don't think enough people do that. No, but you should. I mean, the really ones, Ocho, you ain't never seen. You ain't never seen Peyton Manning white or heard her say anything, have you?

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[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

See, that. That's. That's. That's a different type of understanding.

[Chad Johnson]

I had no idea till she walked up to me. She said, you don't know who I am? I say, I sure don't. She said, I'm actually, man. I say, how you doing? Yeah, had a great. There's. I mean, so many people that you wouldn't even know. That's their. Why? Because they like, hey, stay in the shadows do what I do.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Well, some understand they have to play the background. Some understand they have to play the background. And they're not the main character. I understand I'm not the main character. And I know my place and I know my role. They're a lot like that. Then there are some that want to be front and center. Okay, that's my man. Where I need to be. I need to be front, center right along with him. It's different. Every. Everybody different. And it also depends on who you're dating.

[Chad Johnson]

Yes.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Some people date you just because they want to be front and center.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. And quarterback, first of all. Quarterbacks bars a different level. Yes. You basically dating a CEO.

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[Chad Johnson]

You date the CEO, the guy. So you definitely, you definitely have to be willing to take a back seat. You got to be like, like Savannah James.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Oh, yeah. Oh yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

She ain't gonna. Hey, she gonna do a little podcast. She got a look. Whatever she got going on. Look, they. They try to beat up on Aisha Curry, but I understand what she's saying. I understand what she's saying, but man, I just, I just, I just hate it. I just, you know, understand. They, they young though. Ocho, some things. You know something, sometimes you have to make a mistake before you understand the gravity of what you're in. And then you get a true understanding of what you're dealing with. So hopefully she learned that. Just keep that to yourself, okay? The building wants him to play. If when that time comes, he gets an opportunity to get back in there, he plays well, he's over to hold down the spot. But don't you go on social media.

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[Chad Johnson]

Act up. Oh. The Browns beat the. The Bears beat the Browns. Excuse me. By the score of 31. 3, the Browns held Cleveland to 192 yards. In turned three interceptions against Shador into 17 points. With three takeaways, Chicago extended their league lead to 30. Remember Ocho?

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Da. Dennis Allen, he was in Denver. His D coordinator, he was at the Raiders. He was at the Saints. He's an unbelievable defensive coordinator. And I think we had Jalen Johnson on earlier in the year and he was talking about what he brought that sweat. You know, they got guys that can take. Kevin Bayard can take the ball away. They, they brought in C.J. gardner, Johnson, who can take the ball away. And seemsly good things always follow the teams that he ends up landing on.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

But they got guys every, every time.

[Chad Johnson]

Quarterback, and they did a great job. They sacked him five times, they picked him off three times and. But he's going to have to learn. And I keep saying this, he keeps bubbling. Yeah, he's not going to outrun defense. Not, not defensive ends in this league. Oo. But somehow he thinks he is. You're not your father, Shador. You don't have that kind of athleticism. Sometimes you could step up and then go. But you trying to bubble. It ain't going to happen. He made a couple of good throws to ocho. He hit 16. I forget his name. Ooh, he hit him. He had him for again, but he put it up. Put too much air. The wind got it and killed it. If he, if he threw that one more on the line, ultra, that's a touchdown. That's a touchdown. But he has to understand, bro, that's why you get out there and you, you get a. You try to get adjusted to the wind. You can't throw when it's that cold. That air is heavy. Yeah, if you, if you, if you're in the Midwest, that air is heavy, so. Plus it's probably a little windy. You put that ball up there like that high, it ain't going where you.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Think it is every time. Every time especially. This is a good game for him, too. He didn't play. He didn't play well enough or he didn't play well for them to be able to compete and contend against a Chicago Bears team and defense and offense. That's been clicking on all cylinders damn near all year long. Been clicking on all cylinders on all. All damn year long. But he did make some good throws. But he didn't play well enough today. Obviously this is a game that he continue to grow from and playing in those conditions. I played a Chicago, I'm sure you played there too. People in the chat, if you're from Chicago, you also know you got to go out there and warm ups. You got to go out there in the warm ups and adapt to the elements and understand what you can and what you can't do. There are certain throws you won't be able to make, not in that environment, not with that wind and not with those elements. And I mean, he just didn't play well. There's really nothing else really to say about it. They were intercepted today. They made him uncomfortable. He doesn't have the foot speed to be able to escape the pocket like he wants to, especially when he tries to bubble and outrun some of the defensive ends. If anything, you got to play. You got to play within your strengths. Drop back. If you, if you're in the gun, stay with, stay, stay within the framework of what you're able to, you know, your pocket presence. He has great pocket presence. He has great pocket awareness. And when you are able to be mobile, do it within the tackles, within the guards. Anything outside is just not happening unless they commit and crash down too fast. Outside of that, trying to, trying to bubble out and trying to outrun the DNS is not gonna work because all of them, all of the goddamn DNS and they damn near four, five, they damn near six.

[Chad Johnson]

They still gonna catch him at four, eight, four, nine, right, Ocho, Judy gotta help him. He hit Judy in the chest. Ocho, that can't be an interception. It can be an incompletion, but it can't be an interception.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

In the end zone, the one Jalen Johnson picked off.

[Chad Johnson]

That can't be an interception. It's a touchdown or an incompletion.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Yeah, you got to be able to. You got to be able to get that.

[Chad Johnson]

Hit him in the chest.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Got to make the one thing that we will not do, Ocho and I, we're going to call it like I see it, how we see it. Shador didn't play well today. There's no way to sugarcoat that. Yeah, the elements. Yeah. Caleb Williams was out there in that same. In the same 10 degree weather. The wind blowing, what it, whatever it was, he was in it. Also, his players had to make plays. Luther Burton III made plays. DJ Moore made play. Coastal Loveland made plays. Commit made plays. Okay, I like Harold Fanning Jr. I mean, he had 14 targets. Ocho he made plays. Yeah, Isaiah Bond made some plays. But Judy, you got to make plays for it. Shador, you got to do a better. You got to do a better job of just a. Just get rid of the ball. It's okay. I think the thing is, is that for so long he's been able to make every play. Ocho at most levels, he thinks that's the same. It ain't happening. Tom Brady could make every play. Peyton Manning couldn't make every play. You lay him a great quarterback and he couldn't make every play. Shador is going to have to learn how to throw, learn when to throw the ball away. And he hasn't learned that yet. And I don't know why. I don't know. It's only. What is this? Fourth start? Oo, fourth or fifth start. So now as thing, as it, as this thing progresses, let's take all this information, all this information that you're getting right now, catalog it. You have. You're going to have a great portfolio to look at going into this off season of things that you absolutely need to work on. And when you come back next year, these mistakes, Ocho and I are not going to be as forgiving. We understand that you are a rookie quarterback and only a sports start, but moving forward as next year in the same position, we won't know. You can't make those mistakes. That's unforgiving.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

And then the one thing. And the one thing about it is he's gonna have to be able to recall some of the things that happened this year. And when those, when you're put in those situations again the following year, you don't make those same mistakes. You don't make those same mistakes because you're able to recall. Okay, I know this is happening. Oh, shoot. They run the same defense or I see that safety coming down. I see that safety plan on the Hassan. Okay, they not coming. I understand. And so once you're able to recall the information and regurgitate it mentally in your head and visualize what's coming, because, damn, I saw that last year. So I know exactly what's coming. And I, I think, I think he's gonna be gonna be all right.

[Chad Johnson]

But obviously the one thing we gotta. Look, there's only one starting offensive lineman that started the season that was starting today. So all this, all this notion that he has the same office, not. No, it's not the same offensive line that the other quarterback started with. It's not. So let's take that into consideration. So now he's out there playing. He's playing with a backup offensive line. You see what. Look at the difference between Chicago. Chicago was the most sacked team. They were 30th in Russian. Now they're second in Russian. They're second. Only the Broncos have allowed fewer sacks than what the Bears. You see the difference? People talking about Caleb Williams. I told you they should have taken Jaden Daniel and that that all could pan out. But you see what the Bears did? The Bears went out and said, you know what? We've got a franchise quarterback. We've got to protect him. Joe Tuney, they go get a left guard, they go get a center. They get Jonah. I think it's Jonah Jones. I think they got him from the Rams. They get a right tackle now they're able to run the ball. They're second in rush yards per game. Their second have allowed the second fewest sacks. You see the difference in Caleb Williams now and last year. Look at this team last year compared to this year. They're challenging for the number one seed. They got 10 wins already with three games to play. Personnel matters.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Offensive, offensive line, that's how you build. You build your team front to back. I don't give a damn who your quarterback is. Let him not get protected and see what happens. You see how. How ordinary Mahomes look when he's running for his life. You see, Brad, we saw that with Brady. I don't care who you are, your offensive line can't protect you. You ain't doing much of that.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Chad Johnson]

But. Absolutely, man, Miles, man, I should. Man, I sure hope Miles look like he tweaked that growing Ocho. He got a sack and a half. He's at 21 and a half. He needs a sack and a half to break the record. He got three games. What. What's. What's on Cleveland's schedule? They got the bill. Oh, Lord, sit this without mind. Get healthy. Bills, Steelers, Bengals. Oh, he gonna get that record. He gonna get that record against y'.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

All.

[Chad Johnson]

Nah, he gonna get that record now. He gonna get that record. Josh Allen is not an easy quarterback to sack. Damn it. First of all, get into it. Might be easy getting his big ass on the ground. Cause think about it. He's bigger than Big Ben. He's faster than big man. See, the issue wasn't getting to Big Ben. It was getting his ass on the ground once you got to it.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Yeah, he'd be. Is a big boy.

[Chad Johnson]

But Miles Garrett, he's going to be a unanimous defensive player of the year. Nobody else is really in the running for that 21 and a half sacks. I just hope that Growing is able to hold up and he's able to play these next three weeks. But look, Cleveland, you, man, you. You got to get. You got to. You got to get an offensive line. You got to get. You got to get your doors, a weapon.

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[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

You got something up here. What say Jerry Judy needs to delete his social media for a while during the broadcast. Ocho, check this out. During the broadcast, Allison Williams reported that the Browns removed Shador's wristband and made some changes to the play call. Ocho, how you remove the wristband and add plays to a riff. Ocho, have you ever heard anything like this?

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

I've never heard anything like that, but I know when you do go into a game, obviously you understand. And those that have played the game at any level, the first 15 plays are scripted. Now, outside, you have a number of plays that you practice all week. You practice all week that are on that wristband, and you go to your wristband to be able to reflect on what they want to call based on what they call into your ear. Now, whatever they did, once they take that wristband off, I'm still sure it's plays that just might not have been on the wristband.

[Chad Johnson]

How they not on the wristband? O joke. You. What. You. You know what they do? They call it. They'll say 34. You scan down 34, okay, red, right, 17. Blah, blah, blah, blah. That's what they do. That's why you see the guy. You see. You go, chad, when you look at them, you see they going down like this. Here. Oh, there, the 34. Okay. Right there. That's the play. How the hell you add plays to a. You had all week. What plays are you adding to a wristband that you took time out and you had your secretaries to type up and put on? Now you take the wristband off and to add plays. I've never heard. I've never heard of this in my life.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Listen. Hey, I've never heard of it either. But that is. The only explanation I can think of is that there were plays that they wanted to run that they might have practiced during the week. They just wasn't on the current wrist brand. That's the current wrist brand. That's the only thing I can think of.

[Chad Johnson]

So why would you not put them on there?

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Yeah, I. I have no idea. But listen. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. Your thought is just as good as mine. That's the only thing I can think of.

[Chad Johnson]

Because.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Because you know what? You know what they not gonna do? You know what they're not gonna do? They not gonna call no plays that they didn't run a practice during the week. They're not gonna do that.

[Chad Johnson]

So what. So why would you. So why would you add plays? So if those. If you willing to add those plays, clearly you practiced them, why weren't they already on the wristband?

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Yeah. Ain't no telling.

[Chad Johnson]

Ain't no telling because when I heard it. Ocho. Ocho. Here's Stefanski being asked about it after the game. Early on, was there something wrong with Sanders? Chris Ban.

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[Chad Johnson]

Had the wrong plays in the wristband.

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[Chad Johnson]

Is that accurate? No. Yeah, yeah, there was something.

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[Chad Johnson]

Something on it or whatever it was, but there was a. We.

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[Chad Johnson]

Ocho.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

I mean, you know, the funny thing about it is, is it's hard when reporters ask a coach a question, especially like that. A coach is always going to be PC, he's always going to be politically correct and not give the true, honest answer on what the issue is behind whatever it was that happened with the wristband. They're never going to tell us the truth. They're never going. So now it leaves all of us guessing. It leaves all of us guessing because the wristband is made up. Excuse me, before. Before maybe what? Maybe a Friday or maybe a Saturday because you understand what plays you have, what bulk of plays you like, what vocal plays we ran in practice that Shadow did well, and that's what goes on the wristband.

[Chad Johnson]

But here's the thing, Ocho. They're not leaving till Saturday morning. So Saturday morning is the last official wristband that you're going to get, right? So that's what you're going to. You're going to have. That's what your first 15 play. The first 15, you already know what they are. You walk through those. You talked about them the night before. The quarterback coach has gone over those with Shador. These are the plays, the first 15 plays that we're going to call. This is the first down play. This is our second down play. This is our third down play. This is what, you know, X, Y and Z. This is our red zone play. This is our goal to go play. That's all on the wristband. There might be 150 plays on the wristband, and he'll tell you, play 76. So you got. Okay, 76. Okay, okay. But I've never heard anything like this because they asked him what, the wrong place of wristband. He said, yeah, no. So I don't. I don't know what to make of this, and I don't want to make it seem like. Like we're trying to make excuses for him, but I've never heard this before, Ojo. I really haven't.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

I haven't. And it's really. It's really somewhat of a red flag for something like that happen in the middle of a game. In the middle of a game. We as coaches. Excuse me, I'm talking about we as coaches. But as players, I understand how well prepared we are going into a game. So how something like this can happen is beyond me, especially way beyond me at the NFL level. At the NFL level. Preparation, man. Listen. There's one thing you will never be able to question about all 32 teams is the way they prepare in a week and preparing for an opponent. There are really no mistakes and no errors because there's too many moving parts to it for it to happen. It's too many moving parts.

[Chad Johnson]

I agree with you, Ocho. It might be a situation. I've never heard of this before, and I don't know how it happened. We don't know why it happened. But if I'm Jimmy Haslam, I'm gonna need some answers. Yeah, I'm gonna need some answers. I want to know how, for the first two drives, the wrong plays were on that, on the sheet, and we had to take the wristbands and make some adjustment to it. I need to know why. I need to know why. If I'm Jimmy, I'm calling my friends. I don't know who's really friendly with. I'm gonna ask the other owners. Have your coaches ever had a situation, do you know about where they had to change the playback, the wristband, because the plays that they gave the quarterback were the wrong plays and the plays they didn't want to call or something like that. Cause I need to know why mistakes happen. But not the egregiousness of this mistake.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

No, no, not that kind of mistakes.

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[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

There has to be. And obviously there was audio that came out today. Audio that's not clear, audio that does not state what was said or exchanged between those two. The audio that you do hear, the people that for one, the people that are literally sitting next to holding the camera. Listen, he has no reason to lie. He has no reason to lie. And what I don't do, I do not condone putting your hands on the fan. I Don't, I don't condone that. That's absolutely, that.

[Chad Johnson]

Yes.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

No matter what they say. You know, no matter what they say, you should not touch a fan. Now going back and having a verbal altercation now that's okay, you know, a little trash talk back and forth, ain't nothing wrong with that. But I don't condone putting your hands on the fan. But there's certain people that you can tell them how to react based on what you say to them. I know, listen, it's freedom of speech. You can say what you want to say. But also with that you can control what people do if they choose to do something depending on what you say. And that, that's, that's what I said yesterday. I said yesterday that NFL something, they gonna come down.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, I told us.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

I thought it been a fifty thousand dollar fine. I thought I'd benefit.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh no, it was never gonna be fit.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

But I mean, hey listen, it is, it's, it's. Ah, man, it's, it sucks. It sucks for the Lions, for the Lions, for their fans in general. Just, just for this thing to even be on them for that and you know, for this even even happen. They have so many, so many good things going on already for them for, for DK. You know, DK's been in, in DK's been a hothead. Not really with the fans but, but, but on, on, on the field in general.

[Chad Johnson]

On the field. Grab face mask, got unsports like conduct penalties.

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[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

So I, I mean it sucks as well. The whole 40 million guaranteed that being voided based on whatever it may be. I'm not sure how that even implies or is even part of the situation in general. So you would probably have to explain that for me a little bit more in depth how that would even affect, affect this in general.

[Chad Johnson]

Any suspension triggers a board of, the board of guaranteed money. Well that, that's, if league suspension or.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Team that, that's it. It triggers it. But the team itself would have to, they, they can, they can, they can pull back from that if they want to though.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Okay. Okay. Well, he ain't got nothing to worry about then. He ain't got nothing worry about it. They, they wouldn't be nasty like that. They wouldn't be nasty like that.

[Chad Johnson]

I don't know man. I don't know. Team too, too many teams. That's, that's really really feel get 40 million. But I agree with you. Yeah, I agree. I, I, I, I totally agree. I just think the thing is is that now Players, you see what. And you have to be careful now. We're in a. We're in a Sue happy time players. Somebody says something that you deem inappropriate, go get NFL security and have that person removed. In the process of having that person removed, they're probably going to leave loot their. If that's their tickets, those season tickets, they're probably going to lose those. And. And if whose ever seats they're in, they're gonna lose those because they're responsible for whomever sits in that seat. So that's. That's the. Because you see that with basketball now.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

You guys ain't going back and forth, all that trash talking that is. Hey, come here. Come here, right here.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Hey.

[Chad Johnson]

But.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

But I. I don't like. See, I.

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You.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

You're different. Well, you. You know. You know, I love the talk. I. I love. I love a healthy exchange of pleasantries. You know, I don't know what it is with this era, but our era. I like going to play in Baltimore. I like going to play the Steelers. I like playing away. I like playing in chaotic, hostile environments. I enjoy the altercations back and forth. I love the exchanges of pleasantries with fans who are not part of the Bengals. Like, I like that. That's fun for me. There's really nothing you could say that get me angry because before I get angry, I'm going to tell you, ugly ass, I love you anyway. And we gonna keep going back and forth. We can go back, back and forth all goddamn game. So I don't understand what it is about players from this era in a sense where what fans say actually should. It shouldn't bother you. Like, have fun with it, enjoy it, banter back and forth. No matter what they say. If they say something crazy, you say something crazy back. In just words. In just words. That's the way I look at it now. Everybody doesn't react the same.

[Chad Johnson]

No. They could probably say something. They probably say something about your mom or your grandma that's gonna make. That's not this word, man.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

I meant my mama whoop your ass. So what you talking about?

[Chad Johnson]

So I think the thing. But here's the thing, Ocho. You see, you got to be careful when you go back and forth because if you get the best of them, then all of a sudden that trigger word, they start saying, okay. Because my grandpa used to always say, boy, he say if you give the devil a ride long enough, eventually he gonna drive the car.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Man, don't stop right there.

[Chad Johnson]

Hold on, hold on.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Hey, boy. Hey, you Think you stick. I got my pin right here. Now you pull that one out of nowhere. Now you put. My kids took my goddamn notebook, man. I'm gonna put it in my notes. Hold on.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Oh, boy.

[Chad Johnson]

That was a good one, boy. God damn, that was a good one. Hold on.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Bring that to me one more time.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, you give the devil a ride long enough, eventually he'll drive.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Oh, my God.

[Chad Johnson]

Then what? You just have to be careful. Hey.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Oh.

[Chad Johnson]

Even when even us. Oh, your old teammates and stuff, you gotta be. You know, we going back and forth. Eventually somebody go and you start getting the best, and then somebody start taking it personal, and then they go, you know what? Don't even worry about it, bro. It ain't. Hey, before. Before a. Before I say something or you say something, let's go ahead and hit it. And that's how you. And that's how you have. That's how you have to deal with it. Hold up. The Kalin Decaylin Metcalf. So DK is just easier. Yeah, But I think his mama called. Probably called it Michaela. Look, I had it. I. I said. I tweeted something about. As a matter of fact, he was playing the Steelers, and he had an opportunity to get out of bounds. He kept it up inside, and clock went off. And I was like, you know, DK at that. That. And that situation is more important to get out of bounds than you getting a few extra yards. And he didn't take kindly what I said. But when I. When I sat down and had a conversation and interviewed him and I said I was expl. What I was trying to do, dk, I mean, no harm by it, bro, but I was just saying you have to understand the situation. There's a time and a place to get extra yards. And I felt in that situation, that wasn't the time nor the situation for you to get extra yards. The most important thing was time on the clock, and you burnt some time off the clock. And I felt in that moment, you were being selfish. Once I explained, he got it, and he's like, okay, I appreciate that, dog. And, you know, we kind of stay in contact. You know, he's like, whatever. What you think. X, Y, and Z. Things of that nature. But I think. I think he's a great kid, and I think he's a great. I do. And sometimes when emotion is high, logic is low. But moving forward, all. I'm not talking to all NFL players. If a fan says something you deem is inappropriate, just call NFL security and get their ass removed. I Don't care if it's a child. I don't care if it's a woman. I don't care what it is.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Get them removed or fellow NFL players. Get your roast game up. Get your joke game up. Listen, go out there and exchange pleasantries with these. With these fans at away games. Have some fun with it.

[Chad Johnson]

No, but that ain't. But, Ocho, that's not everybody. That's not every. You and I are quick with it. You know, I'm. Hey, boom, boom, boom. Yeah, I'm firing off. I'm. I'm just joining. If you go to an hbcu, you got to be able to cause you enough in the walk in that student center with some bull job on, or you gonna get away with it. And yeah, so Jonan is. Is my. I'm an expert at Joni. Yeah, but everybody ain't like that. Yeah. And everybody don't play like that. See.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Okay.

[Chad Johnson]

What is joke to you is death to someone else. So you have to be careful because everybody don't joke. Everybody what you find funny, don't find it funny. So you have to. But, you know, sometimes fan trolls and rage baits or whatever they want to call them, they. They go to the game just to get that and situation. The mere fact that he has a law firm. You know, there's probably going to be a civil suit. But hey, but you just. I just. If I could. If I could give DK any advice or any player that could potentially find themselves in that situation, just have security, I got it.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

But hey, I mean, all us. All us got that quick wit, though. That. That's. That's just. That's just a part of us in general, like, tell. Think about telling jokes. You got to. You got to be on your P's and Q's. You got to.

[Chad Johnson]

But. But everybody, Ocho, that's just like. Everybody can't sing, everybody can't dance, everybody can't lead devotional service. Everybody can't pray. Sometimes you have to me. Oh, what's up? That's. What if that's. I'm ready. Come on, now. Oh, I keep the fact I got a thousand jokes on me. I ain't used but 12 of them, so I got 988 more to tear your ass up with it. So. But that's me. And I know what's gonna happen. Cause here's the thing. This is what happens if somebody getting on somebody, they don't get mad at the person roasting them. They get mad at the people laughing. Oh, what you Laughing at. Oh, it's funny. No, now you mad he the one that.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Mm.

[Chad Johnson]

But that's how it is. And so look fellow NFLers moving forward, this is the way you handle that situation. The Seattle Seahawks ruined the return of 44 year old Philip Rivers. Jason Myers kicked The franchise record six field goals, including one of 56 yards with 29 seconds left at. The Seahawks outlasted 44 year old quarterback Philip Rivers and the Colts 1816 without scoring a touchdown. Myers converted 24 of his last field goal attempts with his only miss, a 61 yard try on November 16th. And he leaves the NFL with a career best 154 points. He also converted from 47, 52, 46, 32 and 30. The Seahawks needed every one of those points. Rivers, who hadn't thrown a pass in the NFL in every five years. Seattle extended its winning streak to four games. Indy trail for just one. A little under two minutes went ahead 13 to 3 on Rivers first touchdown pass since the Colts 2724 lost to Buffalo in the playoffs on January 9th of 2024. Ocho, you know they talk about that. Yeah. You know what else recalibrates?

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Huh?

[Chad Johnson]

Medical insurance. He get five more years, you know, when you got 11 kids. So by this time another four or five won't be off the payroll. Ocho be up. I'm just saying.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Yeah, you right.

[Chad Johnson]

No, but, but no, seriously, look, I, I thought he played, I thought Philip river didn't play bad. Considering Ocho, the man ain't really had no fear. He was 18 or 27, 120. Nothing, nothing. You know, they were trying to push the ball down the field. Ocho, you know they couldn't hold up against that. But Jonathan Taylor ran the ball for 8, 25 times for 87 yards. Amir Doula had 4 for 15. Seattle was in the red zone all day, but they couldn't punch the ball in the end zone. Give the indie defense credit for that. Jackson, Smith and Jigba 7 catches a buck 13. He should be up. What is he, what is he like 1500 right now? I think there's an outside chance he, that, that, that, that performance that he had. I forget what he had was a couple of weeks ago where he had like three catch. It might have been Minnesota where yo, you know he had like 25 yards and that kind of set him back. But there's a, it's still outside chance that he get to 1800.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Yeah, he got, he got, he got to go crazy. He got to go dummy.

[Chad Johnson]

They got to continue to keep he got 1541, Ocho. So he needs 259 in three games, which is about 80 yards a game. He. He averaging that right now. Definitely.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

He could definitely get.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, as a matter of fact, he averaging over 100 yards a game, so he got 1531. They played 14 games. So yeah.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Yeah, he definitely got a chance to get that because they, they put him in position to be able to get him the ball. They have played specifically designed just to get him.

[Chad Johnson]

He's so smooth with it. Oh, man. Yeah, that joke is smooth, man.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Nice.

[Chad Johnson]

He should be a unanimous first team all Pro. You know that. He should be a first team or unanimous all Pro, obviously. Miles Garrett should be a first team all Pro.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson]

I'm trying to think. Who else? Oh, McBride, the tight end from Arizona.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Oh, man, he nice.

[Chad Johnson]

He cooking. How many catches? The McBride guy from Arizona, he cooking. He had two more today. Ocho.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

McBride is the real deal.

[Chad Johnson]

He got 105 catches. Ocho. He got 105 catches. Right now he leading the league. Have we ever had a tight end lead the league in catches? I don't think so, Ocho. I don't think Zach ers led the league when he had it. I don't think Whitten when he had a. I think Ertz got the record. He gonna get that record.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Oh, that's crazy. I'm. I'm still, I'm still catching the touchdowns.

[Chad Johnson]

Did he. Wow. Gron. Did how many Gronk have. Okay.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Yeah. I, I still can't believe Philip Rivers at 44 was able to come out there and he.

[Chad Johnson]

Look, you can play a position that doesn't require athleticism. You not playing that at corner. You're not playing that at receiver. You're not playing that at safety. You're not playing that at running back. You're not playing that at tight end. Only quarterback. The Chargers beat the Chiefs and eliminated them from the playoffs. But that was not the worst news. Patrick Mahomes suffered season ending torn ACL in his left knee in the closing minutes. Mahomes underwent an MRI after the game and it was confirmed. He and the Chiefs are now exploring surgical options, according to the team.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Patrick Mahomes tweeted. Don't know why this had to happen. And I'm not going to lie, it hurts. But all we can do now is trust God and attack every single day and over, over and over again. Thank you, Chief's Kingdom, for always supporting me. For everyone who's reached out and sent prayers. I'll be back stronger than ever.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

You know, it's weird. If I'm not mistaken, after winning three Super Bowls, Tom Brady tore his knee in his ninth season. After winning three Super Bowls, Patrick Mahomes also tears his knee in his ninth season. It's unfortunate, but understanding players like this, as great as they are, he's going to be able to come back stronger. There are changes, obviously, that need to be made within their organization.

[Chad Johnson]

A lot of changes need to be made, Ocho. A lot of changes. A lot of changes. And I think they stuck with this. I think they stuck with this roster far too long. I think they stuck with this roster far too long, Ocho. Far too long.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Right. So I'm. I'm not sure. Obviously, when you look at it from top to bottom, I'm not sure where you start. Especially for them, I think the offensive.

[Chad Johnson]

Line, you gotta start with offensive line. Ocho, you need a running back. Yeah, you need a running back. Ocho. Ocho, 21 carries for 49 yards.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Isaiah Pacheco had 11 carries for 21 yards. Kareem Hunt had six carry for 12 yards. Rashad Smith had two carries for one yard. Mahomes had two for 15 with a long of 12. You gotta start with, you got a running back. You gotta go get a running back. Far too long. Look and see. What happens is. Is that when you have success doing With a hodgepodge and not having a. You say, let's. No, no, you can't. You can't. They're gonna have. They. They need to re. They need D line. They could go get the quarterback. All. They did a pretty good job today.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

The coverage people, the safeties, they're not good. I mean, they give a touchdown with. They give a touchdown right before the half. Ocho, I'm like, nothing cheap, nothing deep.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Yep. You can't. You can't do that.

[Chad Johnson]

Mahomes hadn't been seeing the field. He's gotten Rasheed Rice blown up like three times in two weeks.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Hey, that slant, that's you. You. You can't. You can't stare that slant down as much as much as you want.

[Chad Johnson]

He stared it down and Rashid, you better come flat. You take your ass up the field if you want to. And I say Jefferson. Okay, I guess I bet you don't have to tell him again, Ocho, what you want to bet.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

That'S also on the quarterback on. Because if you give. If you give the goddamn safety a beeline by catching the ball, or the ball being the ball snapping in your hands and the first thing you do is you look at him right away. I mean he reading that he safety not even backpedaling. He ain't going nowhere. That's why it's a bang bang play. If you keep your eyes right there and force that safety at least shuffle maybe three steps and give that receiver time to catch and protect itself. But if you don't, if you get the ball and you look right at him right away, well, hell, ain't no threat. I'm going straight. I'm going straight.

[Chad Johnson]

And he led him, and he led him on the shallow. I mean he got him blasted last week on like a shallow. He got him blasted again. I mean he's my. Look, he's, he, he, he's still Patrick Mahomes. He has an impressive resume, but based on the last couple of years, he's no, he's not the best quarterback. He has the most impressive resume. Because I don't, I don't believe, I don't let your resume like. Oh, no matter what happens. No, I'm not so sure. I'm not so sure that guy up in Buffalo isn't the best quarterback currently going.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Yeah, well, I mean, I think we can throw Drake May in that conversation too.

[Chad Johnson]

All I know is he was down 21 nothing to Drake May's team in Drake May's building and he went five straight positions with touchdowns.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Yeah, yeah. I think even though with today's loss, that doesn't take away from the resume. Drake.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, no, no, no, no, no. But I didn't think, I didn't think Drake May was the MVP. Matthew Stafford is the MVP.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

MVP.

[Chad Johnson]

Matthew, don't count on 17 up in Buffalo. He playing his ass off.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

No, yeah, absolutely. And you know, you know what else? I wouldn't surprise. I wouldn't, I wouldn't be surprised if this is Buffalo's year.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, look, I wouldn't be surprised. You got, you got, you got your kryptonite out the way. Somebody already did you a favor.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Three of them Almost, almost out the way. You don't have to deal with Pat Mahomes. I'm not sure what the Ravens are going to do, you know, I mean, no, no disrespect to them. You might not have to deal with Lamar and Joe. Joe and company. They out the door.

[Chad Johnson]

Look, I'm gonna tell you this. If Buffalo don't get there this year, based on what I'm. Sean McDermott ain't coming back. It ain't gonna get. Yeah.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

This is their year.

[Chad Johnson]

No burn, no Mahomes and possibly no Lamar. Now he's beating Lamar in the postseason.

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[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Damn. Damn.

[Chad Johnson]

Be the first time the Chiefs will miss the postseason since 2014. We talked about it, Ocho. We talked about changes that they need to make. They need a running back. They need to redo the offensive line. They got to get some receivers. Look, Juju is sure. Come on, man. I mean, Rasheed might be a number one for that team. Right? But when we look at number ones, we look at number ones that they can go to a lot of different teams and be number ones. Chase going anywhere and be number one. Puka Nakua going anywhere, he'll be number one. Jetta. I'm looking at guys. Like, they need. They need a guy, Ocho, not guys. And I get it. And because what happens, Ocho, if you have success, Think about it. They lost Cheetah. They go to three Super Bowls, they win two. Well, we don't need a number one. We don't need a running back. We don't need a Jameer Gibbs. We don't need a cook. We don't need a Saquon. We don't need a Derrick Henry. Ocho, you can't. 49 yards. You're not gonna win, Ocho, with that offensive line, it puts so much pressure on your quarterback. Patrick Mahomes had to run all year long for his life.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Yep.

[Chad Johnson]

I mean, Ocho, think about this here. Ocho, you remember, like, when the Chiefs were in the absolute best, you could not go to Arrowhead and not and score. If you didn't score 30 points when you at the Arrowhead, you couldn't beat the Chiefs losing.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Yeah, you lose.

[Chad Johnson]

They scored 10 last week on the road. They get 13 this week at home. And it's been. It's been dropping precipitously.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

You got to understand other teams are getting better. Other teams are used to some of the things that you like to do. They understand and know your tendencies now. They understand your weaknesses, especially up front, you know, being able to get Mahomes off the spot. Some of the trick plays, some of the fun stuff, some of the entertaining stuff, and the creativity that coach has been able to call for that team, they're not able to do it right now. You can't do it now. Do it right now. Some of the fun they were having, the creativity Andy Reid had, you know, with calling plays when you can't do it. One of my favorite plays ever. Ever. I saw when they came out the huddle and they did the merry go round, I'm like, what the heck? What the hell? And it Worked.

[Chad Johnson]

Ocho. Chris Jones played a game, a complete game, and didn't register a stat. Makes 31 million. He's the highest paid defensive tackle in football, and he didn't register a stat. He lines up offsides. They see him offside, they call timeout. He come out the timeout, and he lines up off sides again. The safety aren't very good. Corners are just so. So even Trent McDuffie has taken a step back this year. Ocho, you watched him. I don't know if him not getting. Him not getting that contract extension, maybe that was playing on his head, but he ain't the same.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Follow.

[Chad Johnson]

The Chief's elimination from the NFL playoffs will not include Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, or Patrick Mahomes for the first time since 1998.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Damn. Hey, don't. Boy, hey. Greatness. Even greatness has a setback.

[Chad Johnson]

Chris Jones had no clue today was an elimination game for the Chiefs until reporters told him. Press post game presser. We still have a fighting chance. Oh, we're out of the playoffs. Yep. Y' all done. Tony Jefferson was ejected from the Chiefs game after helmet to helmet hit on Tyquan Thornton. Many question the objection on social media. Ocho, do you think it was the right call?

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Hey, hey, that's.

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[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

This. They handicap defenders so much, they've handicapped players on defense so much. I. We don't. We don't know what's the right call and what's not. This is still the game of football. At the end of the day, it's still the game. It's a barbaric sport. It's a dangerous sport, huh? It just is. And there's. There's no way to protect players offensively when defenders only have one thing to do. There's only you. You can't change the way you tackle. You can't change the speed of the game. I mean, there's nothing you can do. So they hit me. Defenders, they hand the tie behind the back. What do you want them to do? It's like you almost. You have to. You have to come up, play two hand touch. Your job as a defender is to dislodge the ball from the player.

[Chad Johnson]

Separate man from ball.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

That's a job. It always has been. There's nothing. There's nothing they can do. They've handicapped the game already. So much for defenders where a lot of catches, a lot of touchdowns are happening because players are becoming gun shy, not willing to take those hits.

[Chad Johnson]

You're right.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

I don't want to get. I don't want to get Fine. They taking bad angles. They going low, hitting players in their knees, causing injuries. You know, it's just, I, I, I don't know what to do. I don't even, I don't know what to say.

[Chad Johnson]

Jefferson was booed heavily as he left the field and apparently made an obscene gesture towards the Chiefs fans after the game. He apologized. Jefferson, I apologize for that. I'm classier than that. I was just caught up in the moment. I won't sit here and act like I'm a perfect man. I messed up when I did that. I have kids at home and there are kids out there watching the game too. So I apologize. They probably got it on television, I don't know. But if they did, I apologize. The Chiefs fans, my kids and all the kids around, we just had TJ on, on the show and I and bro, hey, hats off. We talk about this all the time, bro. With emotions of high logic is low. You admitted you made a mistake. The NFL's probably gonna find you. But you owned up to it. It didn't take you a whole lot of time and you didn't lie and say, I didn't do anything. Or did you say, look bro, my emotions got the best of me. I apologize to the Chiefs fans. I apologize to all the kids around the world that watch me because I'm classier than that and I hold myself to a higher standard than that. But my emotions got the best of me. And for that, I'm sorry. Ocho. What a game. What a game. Tyler Luke misses a 44 yard field, go wide right. And a brutal miss for from a rookie Aaron Rodgers. And the Steelers win the AFC north and they get to host a game next Monday night. As a matter of fact, they get to take on this Houston Texans, which should be a barn burner of a ball game to Houston. Texas finished great down the stretch and they finished today. They won today. They beat the Indianapolis Colts. But tonight Lamar Jackson came back after last week taking last week off. He was 11 of 18. He only threw 18 passes, 238 yards, three touchdowns, one interception. He was sacked three times. Derrick Henry ran the ball extremely well tonight. Twenty carries. Yeah. A buck 26. They just Steelers just dominated. Time of possession. Oo Aaron Rodgers was 31 of 47. Two hundred and ninety four. One touchdown.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

No interception. Clean game. They ran the ball 24 times for a hundred yards. Oo when somebody goes back to, to, to throw the ball that many times and they're not as mobile as Aaron is and you only get him two Times that lets you know you need, you need, you need some, some, some rushers.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

The Steelers play. Both teams play great. Ravens got up to a great start. 10, nothing. Oo. If you look at the Steelers, they were nine of 16. Think about Ocho. You don't normally have 16 opportunities for third down.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

No, 16, that's a lot.

[Chad Johnson]

And then you get. And then you pick up nine of them because six, eight of them is 50%. So you're probably around 55%. You let somebody pick up 55% of first down, third downs, you're gonna probably get your ass beat. You probably lose more than what you did. But a missed field goal, I mean, I wasn't, I wasn't surprised that he missed it. That's a rookie kicker, O.J.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

I mean, rookie kicker in that situation. And you have one job. You hear me? You have one job. I don't care about this. I don't care about the situation. Preseason regular season implications to be able to go to the playoffs. You have one job. There's. When you go to practice, they do one thing since training camp. They kick the ball. That's it.

[Chad Johnson]

Let me ask you a question. How many times in practice they kick for a chance to go to the playoffs?

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

You block. You blocked the noise out. You. You block the noise out. It doesn't matter what you're going for. You.

[Chad Johnson]

How many times you think John harbor told him this is a kick to go and take us to the playoffs? Now, we practice. We practice. Do we not practice? Two minutes. Do we practice? No huddle.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay. We down three. We down seven. How many times you think John Harbaugh told him this is the kick to get us into the playoffs? How many times, how many times you think he'd been under that kind of pressure?

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Probably never. Probably, probably never. Probably, probably never. Hey, hey, that's a whole lot. Boy, that's a whole lot riding.

[Chad Johnson]

Absolutely. That's a.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Hey, listen to me.

[Chad Johnson]

That's a different kind of the guy, the guy that they, that he replaced in his rookie season. All he did is go kick the Ravens to the AFC Championship game.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

And you see, you see the importance of having a kick.

[Chad Johnson]

But you talk about there's a chance. He's arguably one of the two or three greatest kickers to ever especially clutch big game. How many big game kicks have we seen him make? A 66 yarder in Detroit to win the game, playoff games, all this, all these implications. We've seen him time and time again. Now. Last year he struggled, obviously had some things going on, but, you know, we saw him struggle, right? This situation here. But I. Oh. And I'm looking at the game, I'm like, well, damn, Ravens, man, look, y' all got the momentum, man. Y' all need to get some separation. And I kept like, man, get a little separation, get a little separation. They never could get the separation they need. And next thing you know is 10, three. And then it's 10, 10. And then it's. I was like, damn. I said, boy, you playing with fire. Because we talk about it all the time, Ocho. When you have momentum, you better get some separation because they're going to get.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

It as much as you can. Yeah, listen, the pendulum always shifts in a football game. Hell, the pendulum always shifts in any sport, no matter what you play at some point. But like you say, you want to get as much of a lead as you can while you had the momentum. But it's difficult. That's why it looked the way it looked tonight. It's difficult. And it comes down to what it did tonight, where the game is decided on the kicker's leg. And most of the time you hope you have a clutch kicker, a good kicker who doesn't allow certain situations to bother him where he can still complete the task under those kind of conditions.

[Chad Johnson]

That's why Adam Bennetary is going to the hall of Fame. You talk about clutch. How about making a game winning field goal in the snow? How about making a kick in the Super Bowl, Ocho, twice.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

With no time on the clock. Can you get more clutch than that? Can you get more pressure than that? That's why Adam Venatori is going to be in the Pro Football hall of Fame.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. He played a number of years in longevity, but that's not why you had. You won't find two. You won't find two better kickers under. Under the gun, under immense pressure than Adam Venator. Everybody remember that divisional game of the playoffs against the Raiders in the Snow, a driving 45, almost 50 yard kick. He nails it in overtime to win the Super Bowl.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Super Bowl.

[Chad Johnson]

And then guess what? Ocho, two years later, come back against the Carolina Panthers and did it again. Again.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

He was clutch. Now, you no doubt about it, Chad.

[Chad Johnson]

Y', all, maybe y' all help me. Where did the Ravens look? I understand. Yeah, the defense is bad. And I know John Harbaugh. It's tough, Ocho, when you have a friend and you don't really want to fire somebody. But he probably didn't think he had anybody on the staff that could fill in and do any better than what Zach or was doing. That's why he left him in that role. With that being said, yeah, this defense isn't good. It's not. Let's be real, Chad. Y' all know it. It's not good. They got no pass rushers. The guys in coverage aren't good. Roquan is okay, but Roquan is not. Roquan from three, four years ago. He's not.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Hold on. I, I got, I got like. I, I know, I know you say your defense is bad, right?

[Chad Johnson]

Yes.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

But when you look at the third level on the Ravens, are they really that bad? Are they really that bad if they got to cover people for 30 seconds? I mean, if you got to cover somebody for 30 seconds, hell, everybody else would look bad too if you were. If you weren't getting any pressure on a goddamn quarterback.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, well, now I called a question. If you know you can't get pressure, why would you put. Why would you put your corners in a one on one situation with like a bomb blitz then.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

If you can't stop the run, you ain't got no choice.

[Chad Johnson]

It wasn't like they were running the football, Ocho. It's. The thing is, is that you realize like, okay, if I gotta rob Peter to pay Paul, I don't need to be. I don't need to be going out there getting luxury items. I need to pay the day to day. I need to pay the mortgage, I need to pay the light bill, need to pay the gas bill, the phone bill. I need to play necessities. So with that being said, I know I can't get home. Do I really want to sacrifice a back end that's not very good to begin with? Am I really trying to put them on an island? Because if I don't get there in. That's why you need a guy that can win one on one, Ocho. You need a guy that can win instantly. You see how Miles get used to that. Joe Burrow late. No, he didn't. Look at the get off that Miles Gary got. If he'd have been running track, he'd have all started because you can't go under point one. He went point zero two, three. Let that sink in. So when Joe was saying he was gone, he didn't get the tough.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

The Ravens, Ocho, they need, they. Look, they need defensive linemen, but I'm not so sure they can. They can use a couple of corners too, Ocho. They do.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Nah, I, I don't. Listen, honestly, I like, I like Wiggins, we, they just, they just drafted him. He's, he's played decent. Of course he's gotten beat. Well, I think we all get beat.

[Chad Johnson]

Part of playing, part of it. I agree.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Yeah, you, you are going to get beat but most of the time you want someone that can be clutch in certain moments and that can win majority of one on one battles. And if you're elite, follow the number one receiver teams we get, I mean.

[Chad Johnson]

That'S reserved for certain, that's reserved for Stingley, that's reserved for. Who else we got Ocho Gonzalez, that's reserved for those guys. AJ Terrell is resolved reserved for guys like that.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Right?

[Chad Johnson]

Mitchell and, and, and, and, and uh, Mitchell, yes, that's reserved for those guys. He don't need to follow anybody. He probably need to be on the third, the second or the third receiver while you're bull driving.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

That, that, that, that, that, that's not nice. I understand what you're saying, but young, young bull, Young Bull has potential. Young bull has potential. Outside of that, they need a premier, a premiere.

[Chad Johnson]

They do.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

They need a premier rusher. I don't care if you play on the left or you play on the right, we got to get you in the building.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, I agree they need, they need a Russia, preferably two. But if you can get us a true number one rusher and a solid number two rusher, that can, that can win. I mean they had Jadavian clowning. I mean look, he's a guy. If you let him get 20 snaps a game, he can generate pressure. If you let him get 20 snaps a game. Now he's not an every down player anymore, but he still can generate, he can still generate pressure if you minimize his snaps. Offensively, they'll probably need to get some linemen. You're gonna probably need to get a guard, two guards, they are, they just are. I mean I wish it was something I could, I mean I wish I could dress it up for you. But, but chat, y' all know I'm not lying. I mean you would like to have more than 60. You'd like for Lamar, you'd like to have more than 45 plays. It's, I mean you score for. You score 24 points with 45 plays. Lamar was 11 of 18. You ran the ball 27 times for a buck 37. That's what, five yards? Look, five yards of carry, you can live with that? Yeah, you can live with five yards of carry.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Listen, Lamar was efficient when he had the ball. Even if they didn't have it A lot. He was efficient with the ball and we, we talked about, you know, thinking, you know, what we should do. Hell, I never forget what you said. You thought they best option was to start Tyler Huntley if Lamar wasn't healthy, man. The hell you say? Absolutely. Lamar did everything he could to make sure he won this game. And he did his. He did.

[Chad Johnson]

He did. I wish Lamar could have put more pressure on him with his legs. Ocho.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

He can't. He couldn't. You know, you know, let me tell you something. You know how I know he not the same on that third down where he couldn't get out the way.

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[Chad Johnson]

You saw that guy catch it on the third down. Yeah, well, you saw it when they ran the quarterback draw. He was. I said, will Lamar Jackson look like he got a piano on his back?

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He, he tipping. Matter of fact, you know, he, he's tipping. He's not even, he's not even extending himself. His gate. His gate is closed. He's not even opening up. He's, he's moving, but he ain't moving, if that makes sense.

[Chad Johnson]

Yes, he is. To the Steeler side, Aaron Rodgers. 31, 40. 31 of 47, 294. They ran the ball 24 times. Basically a little, little over four yards of carry gain where I had a big catch. Calvin Austin with it, with the, with the, the Sluggo feeling. Had a big catch. Bad of scandal. Had some big catches. Look, Frymouth had a big catch to set him up. Get him down. Get them down to like the five yard line. They played well, you know. You know the Steelers was gonna play well. Cam Haywood. I thought Cam hey would have well of a ball game. I thought the D lineman played really, really well. I thought there were some lanes that had the backside been able to get cut off that Derrick Henry could have hit those and maybe popped it instead of getting 2, 3 yards. He probably could have got 10, 12 yards. But I credit the Steelers. They did a great job of, of disengaging and, and getting to the ball carrier. Give those guys credit for that. I, I thought, I thought the Steelers D line played extremely well. Yeah, and you like well how you say they play well. They gave up 120, 126 to Derrick Henry. But that could have easily been against green bay. That 120 was 180. That was, that was, that was the difference. Cam Hayward played extremely, extremely well. I love the way I look. He might not run fast, but from point A to point B, which is from End to end. He gets there. I was. I was very impressed. I mean, Harry is in year. What's the year? Year 14. This year 14. He was in that 90. He was in that 2012 draft, Ocho, with Cam and Von Miller and all those guys. Justin Houston, Richard Sherman, all those guys. That the greatest draft. That's the greatest draft. That is the greatest. The greatest. If you look at the players in that draft, you need. You know Julio was in that draft, right? A.J. green was in that draft, right? Pat Peterson was in that draft, right?

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

I got Cam Hayward, Cam Jordan, all them was in that draft, Ocho.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Hey, the Greatest draft is 2001. On what the greatest draft is in 2001. I just want. I just want to throw that out there.

[Chad Johnson]

Y' all ain't even close. Y' all might not be better than 90 with me. Emmett say I arrest his soul. Ted rest his soul. Y' all might not be better than us.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Listen, can you hear me? When Chad Javon Johnson was drafted into the NFL, that was the greatest draft.

[Chad Johnson]

Ocho, you only one person. I don't care who else was in your draft class?

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Michael Vick.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay, who else?

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

I can't remember the rest of the.

[Chad Johnson]

Cam Von Miller, Pat Peterson, A.J. green, Julio Jones, Tyron Smith, Cam Jordan, Cam Hayward, Richard Sherman, Justin Houston. Pull up that night put out 2011 draft. It ain't even close. Ain't nobody close to that draft. When you go back and look at the players in that draft in that first round, o just the first round was. I think Sherman was second, third, fourth. When you look at that draft, Oo that is the greatest.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

What's Sherman. You talking. Richard Sherman.

[Chad Johnson]

Sherman was fifth round. Yes.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

What? What?

[Chad Johnson]

He was fifth round. Oh, J.J. watt was in that draft.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Okay. There's some nice boys now. Hey, everybody, you, name is nice, but oo was drafted in 2001. I was drafted in 2001. The greatest entertainer of all time was drafted in 2001. That's me.

[Chad Johnson]

That's me. But you only one player. You got to have 27 mothers.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

I know, I. I know. But it's one player that is more entertaining and fun than everybody.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Give the Steelers credit. They get an extra day. They. This is not an accident that they put the team that played the last game on Monday night to give them a rest. They didn't want to cheat them. Don't make them play on Saturday. Don't make. Hey, let them play Monday night. So this year, Ocho, we got a Monday night playoff game. Something we've never had before.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Hey, matter of fact, since we never had it before, why don't we make a. Why don't we make a. A presence? Let's make our presence felt. You want me to go to the game? Cause, hey, how come every time.

[Chad Johnson]

Every time I ask now I got to be in Baltimore, then we got to, you know, we got to be in New York.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Hey, how come. Hey, y' all don't be telling me nothing, man. Y' all don't be telling me nothing. I don't. I don't be knowing what's going on.

[Chad Johnson]

Why can't you find out sooner or later?

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

But how you know. How you know before me?

[Chad Johnson]

How? Know what?

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

We going to New York.

[Chad Johnson]

You knew that. We on the rail. Ben Affleck, Tiana Taylor.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

What we doing? What we doing with them?

[Chad Johnson]

What are you doing? The red carpet, Ocho.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Oh, we.

[Chad Johnson]

We.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Oh, we finna walk the red carpet.

[Chad Johnson]

We working. No, we're not. Well, yeah, we gonna walk screaming from the red carpet, Ocho. Hold on.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

I get to wear a suit?

[Chad Johnson]

You can wear whatever you want to wear.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Hey, hey, one thing you know about it, when it's time to put on some thread and time to look good, boy, you know who come to the party, Let me tell you. Hey.

[Chad Johnson]

You need to communicate with Ocho.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Hey, hey, I'm gonna be sharp, bro. What are we going to? Hey, we're going to what, The Golden Globes.

[Chad Johnson]

We got Netflix premiere, the Rip with Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, Teyana Taylor, all those.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Okay, okay. Hey, I know I. You know, me. Me and Ben Affleck go way back.

[Chad Johnson]

I'm sure you have some very interesting questions to ask them then.

[Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson's co-host)]

Hey, yeah, I got some good ones. But hey, I'm. Hey, hey, I'm finna be so clean, boy. I'm finna be clean as the board of health. You hear me?

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