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Shannon Sharpe
Hello, it's your favorite sports un here. Don't forget to hit that subscribe button to join the fastest growing community on YouTube. Remember, Night Cap doesn't happen without you, so please subscribe or you're going to make OO cry. We got to talk about your team. The Bengals point the finger at Sh Shir Shamar Stewart. Shamar Stewart's agent over the contract drama First, Bengals director of player personnel Duke Tobin pointed the finger at Stewart's representation. He needs to be here. I would encourage him to be here. He's listening to advice. He's paying from it for his agent. I don't understand the advice. We're treating him fairly. No, you're not. No, you're not. Nobody else put that language in the contract that if you have a conduct detrimental all future guaranteed could be voided. You do realize, if I'm not mistaken, I think the way they do it now, Ocho the guarantee first round of the money is guaranteed. So in other words, he has a slip up this year, next year, the year after and the year after money could potentially be voided. Are they out of their mind? That is the reason why you have an agent is that you're supposed to take advice from the agent. You didn't. Because see, they want to take advantage. Oh, we're treating him fairly. No, you're not. No, you're not. Nobody else does this. Y' all trying to be slick and they know they're starting to dangerous. You got to be careful with precedent, Ocho. Precedent? Yeah, because now they're gonna try everybody. You start doing that everybody gonna try to start to slip that in there. Nah, you're not gonna do that. If you want to punish me for something I did this year, by all means. But to take all the future guarantees when the contract is more, more times than not, it's guaranteed and absolutely not. Ocho.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, absolutely. I totally understand what you're saying. Obviously I don't like the hypothetical that was used in the situation being that if you're in prison and Mike Brown saying, if just so happened he goes to prison, I shouldn't have to pay him. For that matter, I think it should be a year to year thing. I think the agent should have come to that conclusion a very long time ago. Based on yearly. Listen, year one, if something happens that detrimental conduct detrimental to the team, then money for that specific year should not have to be paid. There should be some type of penalty where the players, not the player, that the owners can protect themselves and not having to play. But what's fair is fair. And what I think what they're trying to do is not fair. They're trying to set a precedent, a certain precedent that if, if Shemar Stewart, the first one, that everyone else, it's a copycat league. If, if one, if one team does it and Shemar Stewart and his agent allow it to happen, then it would be a trickle effect and everyone else will start implementing that and sitting there precedent as well.
Shannon Sharpe
Then owner Mike Brown said it's not about money, it's about guarantee. In this case of if he were to do something contrary to the discipline levels of the league, I don't think that's going to ever happen. That's what's holding it up. It's never happened as long as I can remember. His agent wants to be. If he acted in a terrible fashion, this is all hypothetical, something that rises to the level of him going to prison, we'd be on the line for the guarantee. Yeah, that's how it works. Yeah, but, but Ocho. But guess what? They want to be in a situation. If we cut you, even if I got guaranteed money, I cut you, I ain't got to pay you. That's what guarantee me.
Ocho Cinco
Hold on, means.
Shannon Sharpe
Does it? Does. Am I the only one that understands what the word guarantee mean? Ocho? Yeah, that's how it works. You don't, you don't get. You don't get to determine that.
Ocho Cinco
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, you did something year one, now we're gonna punish you. Year two, year three, year four, bro, I don't work like that.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, I mean, if it Goes to arbitrary.
Shannon Sharpe
If it goes to arbitration, you know, hey, that. And that's what we have. We have an independent arbiter and they hear both sides and if they say, okay, okay, I can live with that. But for you to me to just give you that kind of control, just give up that. Absolutely not Ochre, no way in hell would I ever do that. And it, and he said it's not about the money. It is about the money. Guarantee is about guaranteed money.
Ocho Cinco
Definitely about the money. But listen, excuse me. Shemar Stewart and his representation are in a tough spot. The Bengals, the Browns and Mike Brown, Katie and Duke Tobin, they're also in a tough spot. I would love for the matter to be resolved. Training camp has already started. The rookies have already reported. So he's actually missing time, valuable time, where I think he can come in and make a difference. Based on what I've seen on film, you know, with college tape, he can come in and make a difference. Our defense was very bad last year. We, we need all hands on deck. We need all hands on deck based on how we as a team and our organization start every goddamn season. Correct in a hole. Having to dig ourselves and dig our way out of it. The point of having the draft is the draft people and draft players that we think we can benefit from and help our team in this situation right here is not helping us in any way, shape, form or fashion to reach the end goal. We all have the same end goal. We trying to get to Lombardi, we trying to be in San Fran, fucking Cisco come February, week one. And this is not the type of business and going about doing so. I hope they get the matter resolved. I'm sick of talking about it. You know, I'm sorry for being a little frustrated. I'm, I'm a little passionate about my team a little bit, you know. And listen, Shemar Stewart has to do with.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Ocho Cinco
His representation is doing exactly what they should do. This is business. This is the ugly side of business. I know young people want to go out there and play football. I got drafted. I finally achieved and reached my childhood dream of getting drafted to an NFL team. It just so happened. Now the business gets in the way. The ugly side of it. And you wonder why I had so much fun while I was playing to get away from this side, this part, man, I, I, I hope, I hope it's.
Shannon Sharpe
But you notice how the Bengals now why not? Why didn't the 30 other one of teams did the hypotheticals. You notice how hypothetical only happened to the Bengals if He were to go to prison or something. I don't think that's going to happen. Just like they said, oh, he might misbehave, run a foul with the league. I don't think that's going to happen. Well, if you don't think that's going to happen, why you putting language in there?
Ocho Cinco
I have a question, and excuse me for my, my, my, my lack of ignorance and lack of knowledge on his past history. Does he have character issues or stuff that happened previously in the past.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Ocho Cinco
That, that I, that I don't know about. Because that, that to me, that would be the only reason this Pacific player, these clauses would want to be implemented into his contract. Because the past.
Shannon Sharpe
I thought you came in with a clean slate. That's what they told us. Now, I noticed right now, you, I don't know if you remember this. You remember when they. Terrell Pryor. Terrell Pryor sold some of his game war and stuff, the stuff that he got for winning the Big ten championship, Ohio State. He sold his jersey.
Ocho Cinco
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
Now this happened in college and when he got to the league, the league suspended for five games. I was outraged. I said, how in the hell since when can you punish me for something, Ocho? Let's just say for the sake of argument, I'm a college kid and I get a DUI in college. I graduate college, hey, do an unbelievable job. I graduate with honors. I get this job and the job tells me, well, we're gonna take two months salary from you because you got a DUI that didn't have nothing to do when I wasn't even on the job.
Ocho Cinco
Right, right.
Shannon Sharpe
Whatever. Shamar, Shamar, Shamar Shemar. Whatever he did or didn't do, he didn't do it on the Bengals clock. How do you get to punish somebody for something they didn't do when they didn't work for you?
Ocho Cinco
But also this is their entity, this is their business. So when it comes to business, something that you do know is businesses, they do everything they can, especially contractually, to be able to protect themselves. Just in case what you did back then, in case your past creeps in while you work for.
Shannon Sharpe
Have they, have they put this in the contract? Is this in Joe Burrow's contract? Is this in Chase's contract? Was this an Anthony Munoz's contract with this in Boomer Assassin's contract? Because this is the same ownership that that's on that. So I need to know now if this is what they've always done. I don't have a problem with it. I might not like it, but if this is something new, I'm not going to be your test dummy. I'm not going to be your guinea pig to start this precedent. You can start it next year, but I will not allow you to start the precedent with me.
Ocho Cinco
Oh, hey, that's a good one. Hey, it's a tough spot. Hey, I know fans are pissed. Fans are pissed. Hell, you can tell the way I'm talking. I'm sick of talking about it because I want to see Young Bull in camp. But I also, I see both sides. Yeah, for sure, I see both sides. Of course, me always having to side with. I got the side with the players. As much as I love my Bengals, I got the side with the player.
Shannon Sharpe
More times than not. I do too, Ocho, But I believe in right is right, wrong is wrong, and I think the Bengals are wrong in this situation. And to say you're receiving bad advice, they. That's why you. Ocho, why would I hire a financial advisor if I'm not going to listen to him? Somebody. I'm going to give somebody millions of dollars to invest my money. And then they say, well, here, this is safe. It's not going to give you 20, 30, 40%, but it's going to give you a consistent 6 to 8% because when you take those huge swings, there's a chance, right? They don't hit. This is safe. Now, once you get to a certain level, you say, okay, I got a couple of extra dollars. I. I want to put it in something here a little more risky that's going to give me more bang for my buck. Something that can give me 3x2x4x5x. But that's a huge risk because for every Uber Eats or ring, there's something that does not hit. See, there are all the ones. We look at the bitcoins and we look at the Uber Eats and we look at the Amazons. But do you know how many companies have gone belly up and that never. The IPO was. Was nothing. Thousands.
Ocho Cinco
Yes, thousands.
Shannon Sharpe
So that's the whole reason is that I. Listen, I hired a guy for a reason. If I thought I could do it on my own, I damn sure would want to. Didn't care to give somebody 3 to 4%, but I knew I couldn't do it on my own. And then I didn't want to hear them talk some bull jive because here I was taking these injections and giving my all and. And you telling me I'm losing the step. Was I losing the step before or after I started taking them injections and I was. Wasn't 100% out there.
Ocho Cinco
Wait a minute. Speak. Speaking of that, speaking of that. I'm glad you just said that. I'm. I'm so glad you just said, please tell me to talk about that team that we so called America's team. Based on the comments that were said about sticks.
Shannon Sharpe
We gonna get that. We gonna get to that.
Ocho Cinco
Okay, okay, okay, okay. I just want to make sure we got it in the lineup now. Cause he got his nerve. The audacity, the gall.
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Shannon Sharpe
CBS Sports give their NFL triplet ranking. The Bengals OO are number one thanks to Joe Burrow, running back Chase Brown and Jamar Chase. The Philadelphia Eagles are number two. Jalen Hurts, Saquan Barkley, A.J. brown. Baltimore Ravens are number three. Lamar Jackson, Derrick Henry, Zay Flowers. Detroit Lions are number four. Jared Goff, Jamir Gibbs, Arman Ross, St. Brown. And rounding out the top five is the Kansas City Chiefs, Patrick Mahomes, Isaiah Pacheco and Rashi Rice. Oh, okay, we got 10. Buffalo was number six. Josh Allen, James Cook, Khalil Shakir, Rams number seven, Matthew Stafford, Kyron Williams, Puka Nakua, the 49ers. Thanks to Brock Purdy, Christian McCaffrey, George Kittle. Number nine, Baker Mayfield, Bucket Irving, Bucky Irving, Mike Evans. Rounding out the top 10, Dak Prescott, Javante Williams and CD Lamb. Man Ocho.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Any objections? You like it? Yeah.
Ocho Cinco
I mean, listen, as much as I love my Bengals, there's no reason we should be number one. There's no reason we should be number one. Number one should be the Philadelphia Eagles. Hey, listen, number one should be the Philadelphia Eagles. Listen, I love Chase Brown, obviously, Joe does what. Joe does what he does. It's not even close. Especially. And obviously, not to be rude, not to be disrespectful, but where were the Ravens? Again?
Shannon Sharpe
Ravens was three.
Ocho Cinco
I would put the Ravens in front of. I would put the Ravens in front of. In front of the Bengals as well.
Shannon Sharpe
Hell, you could make a case. Detroit should go in front of the Bengals.
Ocho Cinco
Who was the three. Who was the three for the. For the Lions?
Shannon Sharpe
Jared Goff, Jameer Gibbs, and Alvin Ross Brown.
Ocho Cinco
And listen. And that's interchangeable over there. You can go Gibbs over on government, Williams. Yeah. So, I mean, if anything, to be fair, I'd put the Bengals maybe at 4, maybe 5.
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho, this is why I agree with you. And I'm saying yes, sir, because I think the gap between the running backs.
Ocho Cinco
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
Is greater than the distance between Chase and, say, Amon Ross St. Brown or Chase and A.J. brown or Chase and Zay Flowers. That's why I think Bengals should be. Look, and there's not a gap. There's not that big of a gap. If there is a gap right between Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow.
Ocho Cinco
No.
Shannon Sharpe
Now, if you want to say, okay, Lamar, Jalen Hurst doesn't throw the ball, but that's not their offense.
Ocho Cinco
It's not their game.
Shannon Sharpe
But Chase, Chase, Chase Brown with the running back position. And you're talking about Derrick Henry, talking about Saquon Barkley, talking about Jameer Gibbs. Nah, man.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, as much as I love my Bengals, I'm fair. I'm going to be fair, and I'm going to be real.
Shannon Sharpe
You got to be.
Ocho Cinco
I'm gonna be fair, and I'm gonna be realistic.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes. Now, you talk about Khalil Shakir and the receiving position. I think. Come on now. Chase, that's like Chase, that's like Brown with Saquon. Derrick Henry, Jameer Gibbs. When you talk about Chase and Khalil Shakir. Yes. Now. Now we're on to something. McCaffrey. It's kind of hard to have 49 of any higher for the simple fact of health of Christian McCaffrey.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Shannon Sharpe
I like the Bucks. Made it. The Bucks should have made it.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Bucky Irving been sensational. Baker played extremely. Since he's been in Tampa. Baker Mayfield has played extremely well. Let's give credit where credit's due. I have no problem that he's found a home. He's found someone that believed in him and give him an opportunity, and he gets to be Baker Mayfield. The Baker Mayfield that we Saw at Oklahoma. We get to see this guy now. Yeah, the Cowboys. I, I don't really have a problem. I don't have a. What was the running back before Javante Williams got there?
Ocho Cinco
I well, your guess is good as mine.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Oh, Rico Dole.
Ocho Cinco
Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. I, I, I look okay. Ten. Okay. Cowboys. Dak. But Dak's coming off an injury. Also Javante Williams was now he's another year removed from that knee injury. He didn't play very well his last year in Denver. We understand. CD. Why CDs there.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, absolutely. We'll talk about that later on when the season get around.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, but yeah, I agree with you, Ocho, The Bengals, it's just a mere fact that Chase, the gap between Saquon Derrick Henry is a bigger gap between Jamar Chase, AJ Brown, Jamar Chase and Zay Flowers.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.
Shannon Sharpe
And so with that being said, yeah, and I get it. Joe Burrow had a historic. He led the league in passing touchdowns last year. He led the league in passing yards. And I understand Chase Chase won the triple crown.
Ocho Cinco
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
But how many yards did Chase, Chase Brown have? Cause One guy had 2,000.
Ocho Cinco
That's a good question. Not many.
Shannon Sharpe
And another guy had 1921.
Ocho Cinco
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
And Jameer Gibbs, even after splitting carries, probably had 13, 1400 yards.
Ocho Cinco
That's crazy. Imagine.
Shannon Sharpe
So I think the gap, the running back gap, there's a bigger gap between the running backs than it is receivers. Saquon Barkley, Derrick Henry, Jameer Gibbs and Chase Brown. And there is between Jamar chase, Zay flowers, A.J. brown and Amin Rasim Brown. Yeah, that's just me now, Chad. I mean, y' all can have at it. Y' all can chop it up. Y' all can agree or disagree what Ocho and I said. But had, I think the Eagles, I would pro, I would put the Eagles one, I would put the Ravens too. Now three and three. Now I'm, I'm having, I'm really having to think about three. And that's between Detroit and Cincinnati. Ocho, that's just me.
Ocho Cinco
You know, honestly, because Detroit, and this is no disrespect to Chase Brown. Good, good running back. I'm putting Detroit at three simply because they had that double headed monster. You could just pick who, who, who you want to go with, whatever your purpose may be. That goddamn Jameer Gibbs and Aman Ron Golf is, is special. Yes, it's special.
Shannon Sharpe
How many yards did Chase Brown have last year? 990. Okay. He was 10 from a thousand. One guy had 2000. The other guy had 1921.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
No. Yeah. Look, the bill. I. I don't. I don't really have a problem with anybody else that's on this list because we looking down. Okay, we look down. Who else could. Could. The Texans with CJ Stroud, Joe Mix Collins.
Ocho Cinco
That's. That's a good one. Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Jacksonville, Tank Bigsby, Brian Thomas Jr. Okay, you'll lead. Trev Lawrence. Okay, take him off. They got a triplet, but it doesn't. It doesn't deserve to make the top 10.
Ocho Cinco
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. What about Washington? Oh, Jane Daniels, Terry McClory.
Ocho Cinco
Brian Robinson. Brian.
Shannon Sharpe
Brian Robinson. Yeah, they was 12. That's.
Ocho Cinco
That. That's. That's fair. That's fair.
Shannon Sharpe
The Dolphins. You got a chan. You got reek. You got Tua.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
No.
Ocho Cinco
Nah.
Shannon Sharpe
Not in front of the Cowboys. You don't think.
Ocho Cinco
You don't think the commanders in front of the Crab. In front of the Cowboys.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes, that's what I'm. Yeah. No, I don't think they should be a top five. But I'm just saying.
Ocho Cinco
Okay, okay, okay, okay. I thought you were saying top five.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Commanders nor the other team should be top five. Because although a chain expect. No, the commanders can't, because Brian Robinson. Let me see. Would I take Brian Robinson over Chase Brown? Hell, yeah. But I'm not taking over Saquon. I'm not taking over Darian. I'm not taking them over Gibbs. Hell no.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah. Hey.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm not taking it Bear. And I'm not. And I'm not taking. You know, I love Terry McLaurin, but I'm not taking them over Zay Flowers or AJ or I'm in. Rob. Not. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Ocho Cinco
Slow down, slow down. You got.
Shannon Sharpe
You take him over A.J. brown.
Ocho Cinco
You. Hold on. You say you're not taking Terry McLaurin over St. Brown?
Shannon Sharpe
No, I don't think I'd take him over St. Brown. Because you know what, Elcho? Let me tell you why it's hard.
Ocho Cinco
Wait a minute.
Shannon Sharpe
Because one play specifically outside, the other is mainly inside. And so you look at Ahmed R.A. ahman. R.A. had what, 100 and probably 15 catches?
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
He's. He's customarily always over 100 catches because he's the slot. So what was. What was his numbers? I'm in Raw. I'm. Look. You look up. I'm in Rob, look up Terry McClure.
Ocho Cinco
That's. That's. That's interesting. I. I know, I know. TMAC I'm gonna call him T. Mac. I'm call him T. Mac. I can't call him Scary Terry right now. I ain't call him Scary Terry until they pay him. Till they pay him.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. Amon Raw was second in catches, right? Fifth in yards, third in touchdowns.
Ocho Cinco
What he had in. What he had in yards by what, 12, 63. How many catches?
Shannon Sharpe
Second in catches, 115. God, yes.
Ocho Cinco
Oh, boy. Them, boy. Hey, they be 115 passes.
Shannon Sharpe
No, that's 150. Catcher, he probably had 145 to 150 targets.
Ocho Cinco
Hey, man, I'm trying. I'm. I wish. I wish I was able to do the math. If you take my best season, whatever it might have been, and you did the numbers based on yards per catch. I think my highest. My highest total season is catches is like 97. If I had 115 catches, I wonder what my numbers would look like.
Shannon Sharpe
It's only a handful of guys gonna have that many catches. When they're deep.
Ocho Cinco
Crazy.
Shannon Sharpe
You gotta look. So you gotta look at somebody like a. A Moss.
Ocho Cinco
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, are you looking at. I mean, I'm talking about a speed guy. A guy that. That's outside is catching the balls like that, man, they gonna be 16, 1700 yards on show. Because if you think about it, you averaging 15 yards of catch, you average your best seasons. When you had 1600 yards or high 15s, you was averaging 15 yards of catch. So just imagine 110, 115, 120, 30 catches.
Ocho Cinco
Imagine. Imagine this during that time. Me, TJ Hoosh, Chris Henry. Imagine if we had what they have implemented in everybody's game plan today. Those little quick screens, those little bubble screens, those little quick passes where, you know, they get it in your hands and let you do what you.
Shannon Sharpe
Man, only a handful of teams running that. We started adopting that late, like my last year or two in Denver.
Ocho Cinco
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
But prior to that, the only team that really did that was the Colts. Yeah, they was doing that.
Ocho Cinco
What about the Rams? What about the Rams?
Shannon Sharpe
That greatest Rams. The Rams kind of started it, right? With Isaac, with Azahee. They would do it. They would do it with Marshall Falk. They put Marsha Falk out and, you know, motion and throw it to him. Holt caught some of those. Isaac, Bruce. And then now everybody just. They'll just raise up and just throw the ball. The guy. The guy bubble, he'll be in the slot and he'll bubble back and they'll pop it to it. But it's a Different game now, Ocho. We had our time. We played how we played. Because I can assure you, I heard Ozzy and Kellen and all the guys like, man, I sure wish we threw the ball like y' all threw it today. I'm like, oh, you think we throw it? Hell, I don't know if y' all seen Denver's offense, right? A whole lot of throwing going on.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, but look, Bengals 1, Eagles 2, Baltimore 3, Detroit 4, Kansas City 5. I would go Eagles 1, Baltimore 2. I agree with you. I would go Detroit 3, Kansas City 4. Not Kansas City, Cincinnati.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, I was gonna say, I ain't putting Pacheco them in front of Cincinnati.
Shannon Sharpe
No. Hell no. Yeah, that's. That's my toss up. My toss up is do I put Detroit three in Cincy four or do I put Cincy three and leave Detroit at four? But two and, but the Eagles and, and Baltimore should be one, two.
Ocho Cinco
Well, hold on three. I'm. I'm doing Detroit at three and I'm putting the bangle Bengals four.
Shannon Sharpe
And that's what I'm saying. That's what my toss up is.
Ocho Cinco
Okay, okay, okay, listen, that's not even a talk. That's not even a toss up for me. That's a no brainer. Wow. That's a no brainer on my end.
Shannon Sharpe
But me, no brainer if Eagles at 1. Baltimore too.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Cowboys. But you know, we talked about Washington. We talked about. Hell, well, no, they ain't got no quarterback. And I think I know Atlanta, Atlanta didn't really have the quarterback situation because I can't put that kind of stock because I like Atlanta's running back and I like Drake.
Ocho Cinco
Logan Abijan is nice. Drake London is nice.
Shannon Sharpe
I like, I like Michael Pittman Jr. I like Jonathan Taylor, but I'm uncertain about their quarterback position. You see what I'm saying? Oo, yeah. I'm not sure about Minnesota. I know Jetta, I know Jones. But who's the quarterback?
Ocho Cinco
J.J. mcCarthy.
Shannon Sharpe
I a. I ain't seen him throw not one NFL pass.
Ocho Cinco
We just, we just saw with. Why, why, why am I drawing a blank? The quarterback.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, you talking about for, for Minnesota.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, from last year. Why am I drawing a blank in Seattle now? What?
Shannon Sharpe
Sam Darnold.
Ocho Cinco
Sam Darnold. Listen, we, we saw Sam Darnold in New York. Yeah, okay. We saw Sam Darnold. He was somewhere else before he went to Minnesota.
Shannon Sharpe
He was with the Jets. He's with San Francisco.
Ocho Cinco
Bingo. We saw what he did with the Minnesota Vikings last Year, historic run, historic season for him individually.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Ocho Cinco
So what you think JJ McCarthy going to come in and do?
Shannon Sharpe
But you got to realize Jordan Addison's still there.
Ocho Cinco
Justin Jefferson is still there. He going to be all right. He can sling it.
Shannon Sharpe
Now.
Ocho Cinco
You ain't really got to do much when you're a quarterback like that. Even if it's going to be your first year playing, you're not a rookie, you're going into your second year. But what's around you is so great. All you have to do is just facilitate the ball and don't make any mistakes.
Shannon Sharpe
But see, that's the thing. You see how you have to play. You talk about don't make any mistakes. Sam Darnold had a historic season.
Ocho Cinco
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
Now, the thing is, plus he has some season. He was seasoned, he understood this offense because it's a very similar offense to what they run in San Francisco.
Ocho Cinco
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
So it's going to be interesting to see. But I understand why they didn't put him up there because I understand Jones, I understand Jetta.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
But I'm not sure about the quarterback position.
Ocho Cinco
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm. I'm just not. So, I mean, that's fair. Not the 49ers, the Chargers. What about the Chargers? Lad McConkey, Justin Herbert. They got Najee Harris, but they do.
Ocho Cinco
Have Najee Harris now. That's right. That's right.
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Shannon Sharpe
Jerry Jones chose the opening training camp by taking a shot at Michael Parsons. Ocho, let's take a listen to what Jerry had to say.
Jerry Jones
Just because we sign him doesn't mean we're going to have him. He was hurt six games last year. Seriously, we've signed. I remember signing a player for the highest paid at the position in the league, and he got knocked out two thirds of the year. Dak Prescott. So there's a lot of things you can think about when you. Just as the player does when you're thinking about committing and guaranteeing money.
Shannon Sharpe
He just can't help himself.
Ocho Cinco
Dallas Cowboys fans, Dallas Cowboy players, this is your head coach. This is your. Excuse me, here comes. Hey. This is the man that he is the head coach. Huh? This is the man that runs the show. This is the man. This lets you know in short term how they really feel about you. It's a bit.
Shannon Sharpe
After all that man is doing, this.
Ocho Cinco
Is how they really feel about you. There's nothing like getting. Taking a dig or taking a shot at your two star players. Your two star players. Oh, well, I made one the highest paid, but he missed it. Missed the season because of injury. We play football. It's a contact sport. It's a barbaric sport. Sometimes injuries do happen.
Shannon Sharpe
I remember he made his. I remember he made another quarterback the highest paid and he never took a shot at him. And he stayed injured. But that ain't none of my business. I don't even know why I brought that up. Ocho.
Ocho Cinco
This is who you have to go out there and play for. This is who you have to go out there.
Shannon Sharpe
I want to know was Tony Romo.
Ocho Cinco
That is how your owner thinks about you.
Shannon Sharpe
But we know that. See, see, the thing is. Oh, see, I remember in 2016 when calling me up to. Oh, but Jerry loves his players. Jerry loves people that look like you and I that can do something for him. Don't you fool yourself. So the mistake that people make. Oh, Jerry did. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Michael Irving could do things for him. DEZ Bryant can do things for him. Emma Smith could do things for him. Charles Haley could do things for him. Nate Newton, Larry Allen. I could go on and on and on. Stop fooling yourself. Oh, out of the kindness of your heart. Okay, okay.
Ocho Cinco
I have a question, and this is for the chat, for the. For the people in the chat as well. If you play for the Cowboys organization, how would you feel as a player understanding that's how the man who runs the show and writes your checks felt about you?
Shannon Sharpe
I already know how I feel about me. I've done my own.
Ocho Cinco
How does that even give you the motivation to even want to go out.
Shannon Sharpe
There and play for that man?
Ocho Cinco
Play for that man.
Shannon Sharpe
Outside of the money, that's all I'm doing. See, he. What he has upset. He's upset at Dak because Dak has always has been posed him. Dak has always, always been what it was. You're the owner, I'm the player. A lot of players get close to Jerry. Dak has never allowed that to happen. Todd France comes in, does the negotiating hard line.
Ocho Cinco
Boom.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm up out of here. Dak goes about his business. Dak ain't trying to go to his house. Dak is not trying to go out, hang out with him. Dak is Dak. Dak does what he does. Dak now has a family. Boom. Strictly business. You see, he taking a shot at Michael because Michael wouldn't let him. Wouldn't let him Glazing. Oh. Oh. It's between me and the player. You've never did a deal with just the player when the player had representation. But you know what? It's going to cost you because you let Max Crosby get a new deal, you let Miles Garrett get a new deal, you let TJ Watt get a big new deal. And guess what? Michael Parsons is three to four years younger in all of them. So guess what? He's about to do Pole vault. So whatever TJ White got, Michael Parson is going to get a million to $2 million more. And don't give me that junk. I play in Texas. Oh, well, I do. I know it ain't no state income tax, and I'm glad for that. So that 42, 43 million. Uncle Sam's only go get 36% of it. No state taxes.
Ocho Cinco
Right. And I'm understanding, obviously. I. I wanted to text Michael. I wanted to call him, but I was like, you know what? I'm not even going to bother him. Just act how you feel. How does that make you feel? And I'm just.
Shannon Sharpe
My only thing. My only thing's about me. Now, what about the time? Okay, he missed some games, but I guarantee you there's some games that he should have missed more. Because I know Michael has some issues going on, but that ain't none of my business. I don't even know why I brought that up again. Damn. I keep telling people business.
Ocho Cinco
You know how many times all of us have played the game of football and went out there anyway?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Ocho Cinco
Had to take toward all pills. Had to take. Had to take the to all shot just to and for the same.
Shannon Sharpe
And then zain mar. Yeah. Cortisone. Yes. All that shooting up in your shoulders and in your knees. Not. Well, I ain't shoot my knees up. I shot my ankles up, shot my shoulders up, ribs did all that OO did all that.
Ocho Cinco
I mean, how do we not. How do we not understand or just have any self awareness where. That's the kind of stuff that, that you say to yourself, but you never say out loud about the players that are on your team. You don't say stuff like that out loud.
Shannon Sharpe
Had the nerves dead in my ankles, so I couldn't feel no pain. The whole. That's what nerves do. They allow you to feel pain. Says, okay, hey, bro, back off. That I had my nerves. Had my nerves in my ankles dead so I couldn't feel pain, so I could go out there and play. And then to have somebody talk like that, man, please. I'd have lost it. I'd have lost it.
Ocho Cinco
Hey, you know what's funny is when you think about the owners, obviously it's 32 owners. I think Jerry is the only one with the cojones to come out and say how he really feels. No one else would do that.
Shannon Sharpe
That's. Why would you.
Ocho Cinco
What you thought, what you saw today. Nobody else would do that.
Shannon Sharpe
Why would. But Jerry. Jerry. But see, that's what Jerry wanted to be about him. See, Jerry don't want no superstar because you know why he want a superstar? Because he, he would never take a Tom Brady. He would never. He couldn't play for Peyton Manning because they'd be bigger than he is. And he don't want that to happen.
Ocho Cinco
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
I've been very fortunate. I played for two owners, Mr. Bolan. I did something for his family today.
Ocho Cinco
Yes, sir.
Shannon Sharpe
But Ocho, it was about us. We were the superstars. He used to tell me all the time, sharpie, I ain't catching no passes. Sharpie, I ain't making no tackles. Why the hell I need to be up there and talking and carrying on? That's what I pay you guys for. I said, you play us quite well. I. I don't. I don't get why Jerry felt to open up training camp like this.
Ocho Cinco
I don't know.
Shannon Sharpe
Everything that comes up doesn't need to come out right. But Michael.
Ocho Cinco
Oh, what you. What you thinking doesn't need to be said. Every little thought, especially stuff that you know, is going to ruffle people's feathers, catch media headlines. Hell, the only thing that should be catching headlines today is cowboys open up training camp and George Pickett looks good. Excuse my language. Sorry. George Pickens look good, day one. That's it. That, that's was. That should be the conversation, not what you said about that. What you said about Michael, man, come on.
Shannon Sharpe
J.J. watt took to Twitter, excuse me, X To defend him. Anytime you can publicly take a dig at your star quarterback and your young star pass Russell simultaneously, right before the season begins, you gotta just take it. Nothing makes guys want to fight for you more than hearing how upset you are that they got hurt while fighting for you. Micah reposted that. No discount for you, Jerry.
Ocho Cinco
Wait, hold on, hold on. What if. What if. What if he didn't. Excuse me? What if he even goes worse? What if Michael says, you know, that that's how you feel about me.
Shannon Sharpe
Trade me.
Ocho Cinco
Why don't you trade?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Ocho Cinco
Then what? Then what? And the funny thing is funny about. I'm just finding out all about Jerry's ways because I never played for the Cowboys. And obviously when I was playing, you know, I'm. I'm. I'm blind to what's going on over there. But Unc, you the one introduced me and told me about the whole thing with Jimmy Johnson.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Ocho Cinco
So that, that raised my eyebrows. But I thought, okay, maybe that's just. Okay, maybe that's just a one off. Maybe this had a disagreement and he's not really like that, but they got into it.
Shannon Sharpe
But he thought after three years, he thought after he hired.89 was Jimmy's first year. That's the year he took over. He brought the. I think bum bright. I think that's who he bought the Cowboys from. So he took over him and him and Jimmy in 89 because Troy was their first draft pick. They won the championship before in 92, won it again in 93 to get 95. So in four years. So 89, 90, 91, 92. So in the fourth year, he thought he knew more football than Jimmy. Now see Jimmy, see what Jimmy could do. Jimmy was coming from college at the U. So all these guys that's coming out, guess who knew him because he tried to recruit him at the U.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
See, Jerry think because somebody handed him a piece of paper that they've done all the work for. See, Jerry is that guy that does no part of the project, but he gets an A. You ain't do nothing. You just happen to own the team. You did nothing. Jimmy, the scouts, the evaluators, they did all the work. It burned him. It burned him that Jimmy got the credit. Everybody gave Jimmy the credit and he wanted Jimmy to toast him.
Ocho Cinco
That's. That's a tough spot to be in for a player, huh? It has to be. Just to hear that from your owner has to be a tough spot to be in. You know, he's running it it's supposed to be a football team. It's supposed to be an organization. But you're running it like. I'm not gonna say the P word. You running like the P word, Ocho.
Shannon Sharpe
As long you saw Django. Yes, you saw Django.
Ocho Cinco
Okay. Okay. You see where I'm going? Yeah. Okay. You run it. You running it like that. You don't say.
Shannon Sharpe
You don't.
Ocho Cinco
You don't say that about the players that you paying. You don't complain. Oh, I. I made the quarterback the highest paid because you fucking waited to pay him. You waited to the last minute, and.
Shannon Sharpe
You waited to the last minute you would got Michael Parsons on the fifth year option. So you waited till the last minute. He said it. And I used to say this all the time. I am not going to give you. I would give you a discount if you signed me with a couple of years left because now you giving me guaranteed money. I'm not giving you a discount if you make me get to the punctuation the end. No, bro, I got to get maximum dollar out of you, max value. But see, here's the thing, Ocho. I know who Jerry is. And as long as they know who Jerry is, they should never have a problem with it. He applauds what you do, not who you are. It's transactional to him. You can provide a service, a damn good one. He gonna pat you on the back. But if you think it's anything more than that, you're sadly mistaken. Sadly mistaken.
Ocho Cinco
Hey, man, that's. That's. I. I ain't never heard nothing like that. Now, I know a lot of them think like that. One thing they think, but they actually.
Shannon Sharpe
Beyond approach, bro. Listen. See, a lot of times people want to. They'll take what he says about them, but I listen to what he says about everything else and how he handles everything else. That told me a lot.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, your toes are going to be on the line. Your hand's gonna be over the heart. Okay. Oh, oh, oh.
Ocho Cinco
Doing that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
I see where we're going with this. Yeah, I see what y'.
Ocho Cinco
All.
Shannon Sharpe
I see how you think.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah. I mean, listen, it's unfortunate.
Shannon Sharpe
It'll be you. I. I hate to try. Like I said, I know Michael Little. I like him a lot. Great personality. No, it's a representative. But I'm gonna be very, very disappointed if y' all don't rig Jerry ass cross the codes. If y' all don't get at least 42, $43 million. If y' all don't get. If y' all don't get 10 million. If y' all don't get 5 million more than what T.J. watt got. T.J. got three years, 143 million. He got 108 guaranteed with one year. Oh, man. Y' all better get you all 115 million guaranteed. Fully guaranteed. As a matter of fact, Jerry, since you've been nasty, I want a hundred of it and signing. I want 115 and sign it.
Ocho Cinco
As soon as I signed down the line, I'm not even shaking hand.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, I'm happy to be a cowboy, but I'm more happy that I get to secure my family. This is generational wealth. My family, my dad, my brother. Hey, we good now?
Ocho Cinco
Oh, that's crazy. God, he really said that out loud.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, but that's Ocho. Don't you like that? Don't you? I. Let me know where I stand with you. See, so far too many times. Far too many times. I just need to know. See, that's the difference between the south and the North. And the south, they. You know, they don't like you. They tell you. Yeah, I don't like you, bub. As opposed to hiding, right?
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, they tell y'.
Shannon Sharpe
All. What do you think Michael actually reported to training camp today, despite the contract? Stand up. Should my. No. Should Michael trust Jerry Jones enough to report the camp? Yeah, I'm gonna report the camp. I'm gonna report the camp. I don't want to get no money back. I don't want to, but I just. They. They. They've tried to. That's another thing. Oh, yeah. See what they put in there now? Hey, there's no forgiveness, though. It doubles. I mean, what does it start at? 15,000? 30,000? You missed 10. You missed 10. 15 days of practice. That's over a million dollars that the team can't forgive.
Ocho Cinco
Mm. Yeah, but now that, you know, you go in there, you know you play the game.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, I'm playing the name on the back of my jersey. If that name on the front, because that's what you said to me.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, basically. Basically and not so many words. Yeah, that's crazy.
Shannon Sharpe
So, hey, go do what you do, Michael. I hope Michael get 25 sacks and the 50 and the 40 million. You gonna pass 50 now? 50 miles, Micah. Hopefully you get a contract extension. What? What's Michael playing? What's his fifth year option? 20. What? Because he's outside, he's the edge over here. DN24 May. Micah, all you do is that you pay your Monthly expenses. Don't you buy nothing. Don't you buy a car. Don't you. Hey, tell your mom and dad. Hey, look here. There'll be no expenses going on. I'm gonna pay my rent. I'm gonna pay X, Y, and Z. I'm just gonna pay monthly expenses. I'm gonna sit tight because if this. You know what? Try to franchise me.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm not coming. I'm not signing no franchise tag. Not signing a franchise tag. Not gonna do it.
Ocho Cinco
Hey, you think. You think he would play with him?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. You do realize. Here's the thing, Ocho. You didn't do it to me now, so you've made me run the gauntlet two years in a row. Well, oh, no, bro. I got to hit you over the head with a heavy hammer. Yes, absolutely. If I'm Michael. Yes. The price goes up 10% every year that you don't get this done. So right now it's 42 million. You don't say pay me this year. Guess What? It's a 10 increase. 46 million and plus another 10 on the. On the sign up on the guaranteed money.
Ocho Cinco
I don't. I don't. Is he. Does he purposely. What. What is the method? You did it with CD Lamb. You did it with that. You did it with dq. Elliott. What's the purpose of the last minute?
Shannon Sharpe
He's thinking they're going to give him a discount. I'm not giving you a discount when you making me run to the last year of the contract, Ocho. I'm not. See, he thought Dak would give him a discount like Wentz and Golf gave their teams discounts. But those teams, they were first and second overall pick. They got huge. Their total contract was guaranteed. They got 35 million. They got 32 million fully guaranteed.
Ocho Cinco
Right?
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know what that. That was a fourth round pick, so I don't really know what those numbers are. Then three years into the deal, they give a new contract. That is what they did with that. So, Ocho, I've already gotten 32, $33 billion guaranteed. Plus you come to me early. Okay, I'll give you a little discount. I help you, I'll help the salary cap.
Ocho Cinco
Right? Understandable.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm not giving you a discount when I'm that low of a draft pick. My first contract, that first one, I'm trying to split your dome. Oh, yes, absolutely. Now, I might give you one, the second one, but that's my choosing. No, you say, oh, oh, you know, you tell me that's you know football business and let football people do football things. Well I'm gonna let y' all handle that salary cap so my job is not to try to help y' all manage all salary cap I'm trying to extract because I care just about as much as winning as you do. Jerry Jones have shown you over the last 30 years he doesn't care about winning. So guess what? Me either.
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Club Shay Shay: Nightcap Best of NFL News Part 1
Release Date: July 23, 2025
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe and Ocho Cinco
Description: NFL legend Shannon Sharpe joins forces with Ocho Cinco to delve deep into the latest NFL news, offering insightful commentary, heated debates, and expert analysis on the hottest topics in the league.
The episode kicks off with a heated discussion about the Cincinnati Bengals' handling of Shemar Stewart's contract. Shannon Sharpe and Ocho Cinco dissect the controversial clauses that the Bengals have included, which allow the team to void future guaranteed money based on "conduct detrimental to the team."
Shannon Sharpe (01:05): "Nobody else does this. Y'all trying to be slick and they know they're starting to dangerous."
Ocho Cinco (03:00): "They're trying to set a precedent, a certain precedent that if Shemar Stewart, the first one, that everyone else, it's a copycat league."
The hosts argue that such contractual language is unprecedented and could set a dangerous standard across the NFL. They express frustration over the Bengals' approach, emphasizing the importance of an agent's role in advising players and protecting their interests.
Shannon Sharpe (07:21): "You can start it next year, but I will not allow you to start the precedent with me."
Ocho Cinco (06:50): "This is business. This is the ugly side of business."
The conversation highlights the delicate balance between team interests and player rights, questioning the fairness of punishing players for actions unrelated to their performance on the field.
Shannon Sharpe introduces the segment on CBS Sports' NFL triplet rankings, where the top ten player triplets are evaluated based on their performance and impact.
However, Ocho Cinco challenges this ranking, arguing that the Philadelphia Eagles should top the list instead.
The hosts engage in a spirited debate, meticulously analyzing each team's strengths and the players' contributions.
Shannon Sharpe (18:22): "How many yards did Chase Brown have last year? 990. Okay. He was 10 from a thousand."
Ocho Cinco (16:01): "I would put the Ravens in front of the Bengals as well."
Their discussion covers various teams, including the Eagles, Ravens, Lions, Chiefs, and more, providing listeners with a comprehensive analysis of the current NFL landscape.
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to analyzing Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones' recent comments about head coach Michael Parsons. Shannon Sharpe and Ocho Cinco explore the implications of an owner publicly criticizing his coaching staff and players.
Jerry Jones Clip (30:27): "Just because we sign him doesn't mean we're going to have him."
Shannon Sharpe (32:00): "I've been very fortunate. I played for two owners, Mr. Bolan. I did something for his family today."
Shannon Sharpe expresses disbelief and frustration over Jones' approach, emphasizing the importance of mutual respect and trust between ownership and players.
Shannon Sharpe (36:57): "But Ocho, it was about us. We were the superstars. He used to tell me all the time, sharpie, I ain't catching no passes."
Ocho Cinco (40:52): "You don't say that about the players that you paying. You don't complain."
The hosts discuss the potential impact of such public criticisms on team morale and player performance, questioning whether this management style is conducive to long-term success.
Further delving into the dynamics between players and ownership, Shannon Sharpe and Ocho Cinco discuss the transactional nature of these relationships and the importance of generational wealth and financial security for players.
Shannon Sharpe (43:53): "I'm more happy that I get to secure my family. This is generational wealth."
Ocho Cinco (46:45): "If you think he would play with him?"
They emphasize the necessity for players to feel valued beyond their on-field performance, advocating for fair contracts and transparent dealings to foster a supportive team environment.
As the episode wraps up, Shannon Sharpe and Ocho Cinco reflect on the discussed topics, reiterating their commitment to advocating for players' rights and maintaining integrity within the NFL.
Shannon Sharpe (49:16): "So, Ocho, I've already gotten 32, $33 billion guaranteed."
Ocho Cinco (50:07): "Listen to San Diego FC behind the Flow now on the iHeartRadio app."
The hosts encourage listeners to stay informed and engaged with ongoing NFL developments, promising more insightful discussions in future episodes.
Notable Quotes:
Shannon Sharpe (01:05): "Nobody else does this. Y'all trying to be slick and they know they're starting to dangerous."
Ocho Cinco (03:00): "They're trying to set a precedent, a certain precedent that if Shemar Stewart, the first one, that everyone else, it's a copycat league."
Shannon Sharpe (07:21): "You can start it next year, but I will not allow you to start the precedent with me."
Ocho Cinco (14:45): "Number one should be the Philadelphia Eagles."
Shannon Sharpe (36:57): "But Ocho, it was about us. We were the superstars."
Ocho Cinco (40:52): "You don't say that about the players that you paying. You don't complain."
This episode of Club Shay Shay provides a deep dive into some of the most pressing NFL issues, balancing passionate debates with expert analysis, making it an essential listen for any football enthusiast.