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You're listening to an iHeart podcast, the Volume. Oh, let me know what you think about this. Saquan Barkley believes the 2024 Eagles are and should be remembered as a top five team of all time. I firmly believe when you look at our team and what we had last year, I think we're a top five team of all time. If you really look at the season outside of our first four games, it was built to ass. But you can look out outside the first four games. That's the whole point. We got to take it in its totality collectively.
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Yeah. As a group, every single game. Listen, they were good. Maybe the back half a top 10 team, huh? Yeah, back half of a top 10 team.
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If I take out that super bowl game, the Patriots are the greatest team all time. If I just take out that Super Bowl. But I can't.
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Okay, you can't at all. But listen, Saquan is. Is right in a sense. Not top five, but that damn team was really good. Especially really good.
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Yes. Hey.
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On both sides of the ball at that. Yes, both sides of the ball. That goddamn. Dean, please hear what I'm saying.
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Cooper Deon.
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Yeah, Cooper Deon. Right. Keon Mitchell. To have the rookies. Braun, who came in from New Orleans Saints, to have the rookie step up the way they did and have those that came from other teams. Braun played phenomenal. That got that. That front four. And then.
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I'm not even Jaylen Carter.
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Listen, the cherry. The. The cherry on top of the ice cream was them getting Saquon Barkley from the New York Giants and put him over the top.
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Yes, put them over the top.
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And I really, honestly think, Unk. I don't want to scream dynasty too soon, but with what they have, there's a chance they can be back again on.
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Oh, yeah, for sure, there's a chance. Injuries is a big key. And the thing is hard. So the reason why it's so hard in football, though, because it's one game.
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Yeah.
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All it takes is you have one bad game and you go home.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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You go home. So. And when you don't play a series sports, which. Football isn't a series sport. It's a game seven. Every game. The wild card game is a game seven. The divisional round is a game seven. Obviously the championship game is a game seven. The super bowl is a game seven. So you're playing potentially two, three, four game sevens.
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Yeah, man.
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And there's no. There's really no margin for error because it's not necessarily the best team. It's the team that plays the best that given day.
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Yeah.
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That Sunday, that Saturday or whatever the case. It may be Ocho who plays the best that day. But I do think they're good to look. I mean, we go back and we look at some of those 49ers teams of the 80s. We look at the Cowboys of the 90s, our team, the Broncos in 2000. Excuse me, in the 90s. The Patriots teams, bro. The Steelers of the 70s.
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Yeah.
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Hell, the packers of the 60. That mean the 2000 Ravens. Yeah. Yeah.
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It's so many teams that were very good and very worthy of being top five, top 10. But for Saquon sake, because they played so well on the back end on both sides of the ball, I will give, I will give them credit. But top five is, it's a little.
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Yeah, that's. I think that's a stretch. Hey, the way they play you, you had an unbelievable season. The team had an unbelievable season. Congratulations. But I don't know about that. Top five Steelers on the Art Rooney previously said at the start of April that the team would not wait forever on Aaron Rodgers to sign. Rooney said last month Rogers wants to come to Pittsburgh, but Rogers has not made any public pronouncement about his intentions. And then today Rooney was asked again about how long the team is willing to wait for him to make a commitment. A little while longer. I'll say the same thing. The Steelers start OTAs next week and they run through June 5th. Three day mandatory minicap that ends offseason program wraps up June 10th. So to make a long story short, Art Rooney II is willing to wait however long it takes to get Aaron Rodgers.
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I mean, it's Aaron Rodgers, obviously. I've told you, I told you what the leverage is. The leverage is what you did in the past. What he was able to do in the past is why he can have a team, a team organization like the winning Steelers who had what, five, six super bowl trophies if I'm not mistake. Yeah, six. He has the leverage right now because of what he's accomplished in the past, not what he did with the Jets. They're not looking at that. They're looking, hoping that we can get somewhat just a splash of the Aaron Rodgers of old. Because what we have right now is not going to cut it. It's definitely not going to cut it. So we're, we're willing to wait and that's the leverage that quarterbacks have when they are great in the NFL, especially on the back end of their career.
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The Aaron Rodgers Are old. But the jets got an old Aaron Rodgers. Still Aaron Rodgers. But there are two different players. Yeah, but like you said, I mean you're in that division. You got Burrow and you got Lamar to deal with.
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Hey.
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And so in order for you to have a chance to win, you're going to have to have exemplary quarterback play.
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Got you.
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And they feel that he gives them the best opportunity. I heard what they said about Mason Rudolph and anybody else.
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No, no disrespected him. No disrespect to Mason Rudolph. He's had his time. He's, he's had his running in, in, in Pittsburgh. We know what that looks like. He's a, he's a, he's a quarterback.
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The journeyman. If Mason Rudolph was what the Steelers and Mike Tomlin want us to think, want us to believe, he would have never been went to Tennessee. He'd have still been their quarterback and they would not have been waiting for an Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, they would have not, they would have not went and got Justin Fields and Russell Wilson last year if Mason Rudolph was what they telling what they try to believe. Oh, we have confidence. Y' all had so much confidence in them. Y' all let him go to Tennessee.
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That's all, that's, that's all words. That's all hot air. They have to say those, they have to say those things. They got to say the right thing. Especially when the individual is back in the building. You know you don't believe in them. You, you, you, you know you don't. You know he's not to get the job done. Second, second string quarterback. Third string quarterback, if that you need Aaron Rogers which is why you waiting because there's only so many quarterbacks out there you can go get.
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Yeah, you not going to get on them now.
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No. It's. Oh, it's a rap.
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Yes. What you ain't have, you won't be getting. So you only got one choice. That's Aaron Rogers. Mojo. Brock Purdy says he's a hundred percent a top 10 top 10 quarterback in the NFL. I'm a top 10 quarterback. I'll leave it at that. Purdy is now the seventh highest paid quarterback in the NFL. Purdy says he took less money because he doesn't need every penny for himself and wants the team to win. Obviously I want to get a deal what I deserve. Also surround myself with guys around me. Not just try to take every penny for myself. And he signed a five year 265 million with 181 million guaranteed. If you look at your screen, you'll see what he's going to make. After taxes, 53 million. Federal income tax is going to take 19,567,892. California is going to take 7,529,000. Federal payroll tax. 1,000. No, 1,254,153. California Sid. Tax. $16,86 total in taxes. Ocho, 28 million. 3:52. 7:31. He gets to bring home a little less than 25 million.
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I want to address this top 10. This top 10 top 10 quarterbacks.
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You want to address the top 10? Yeah. Okay.
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Is Brock Pie. Chat. Chat. Is Brock pie a top 10 quarterback?
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Is he?
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Yeah, I mean, I'm. You. You. I mean, he's. He said it, not me. I want to run.
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But I'm asking you, is he a top 10 quarterback?
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I want to run through the top quarterbacks. Before I even answer that question. Who.
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Who we got? Let's.
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Let's go through our top five, right?
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Well, go ahead. I'm gonna let you go ahead and name a five.
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Okay, let's. Let's. Let's go. Joe Burrow. Lamar Jackson. Josh Allen. Jalen Hurts.
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Who?
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Jalen Hurts.
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Okay, four. This man. The name. Four quarterbacks and not one of them named Holmes.
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Jerry Goff. Y' all stay with me. Stay with me now. Patrick Mahomes. Jared Goff. Patrick Mahomes. Where I'm at at 7.
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7. You want C.J. stroud.
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C.J. stroud. Jaden Daniels.
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Jaden Daniel. That's 10. Jordan Love. Oh, my goodness.
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Jordan Love.
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That's 11.
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Okay.
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Matthew Stafford. Hell, yeah.
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I forgot about. Hey, gunslinger. Stafford. That's 12.
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That's 12.
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Come on. Who else? Who else? I'm missing somebody.
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Well, that's 12. That's 12 guys right there.
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Yeah, I mean, listen, I. I love. I love Mark Purdy. I love what he was able to do.
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And. And you didn't mention. You didn't mention Dak.
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Okay.
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You didn't mention. Who else? Yeah, he said Jaden Daniel. Yeah. So that's 12 right there. So you got per. Huh?
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I. Now I'm ready to tell you I love Brock Purdy and Shanahan System.
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I love.
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I love the way he looks when all the pieces are in place. Debo Auk. Twin Williams. Officer l. Attack. Christian McAffrey. And I have a question. There's no disrespect to Brock Purdy because he plays extremely well and does what's asked of him in that specific system. Can you Take a Brock Purdy and take away all the talent that's around him. Will he still look the same as a Brock Purdy saw with all the elite title around him?
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I think the thing is the type.
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Of quarterback that could elevate a team.
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That's the thing. That's the word.
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I want you to elevate a team without adequate talent around him. Is he that type of quarterback?
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Right?
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I'm asking you.
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Yeah, that's the word I wanted you to use. I didn't want you to strip all the talent because every other quarterback has talent. But I believe there are certain quarterbacks that elevate the talent that they have. That's what made Brady special. Brady could elevate the talent. Now as he got older, he needed people to help elevate him. That's okay. But he had 18, 19, 20 years of elevating others. So if you want to get a little help the last couple years, by all means, I work. I welcome that. Yes. I don't look at, I don't, I don't look at Brock Purdy as a multiplier. What I mean by that, I don't believe he can just take ordinary people and make them, make them great. Really good. Great, right. I think, you know, he takes, he, I mean he could, can he get the ball there? But Christian McCaffrey is pretty good without him. Kittle was Kittle without him, very good. I think Debo had that all pro year without him. So he's a really good. He understands the offense. He gets the ball out of his hands. He doesn't have the, he, he. He throws with great anticipation because he doesn't have the strongest arm. So he has to let the ball go a lot sooner than a lot of these quarterbacks do. And, and, and, and in Kyle's system, if it requires you to have a great understanding of that offense, it has you, it, it. You have to have a great recall process information like this.
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Yeah, yeah. He's easily. That's why, that's why I said he's.
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I want to talk about. I want to talk about how this man make 53 million and he gonna come home with 24 million. How Uncle Sam get to take. How Uncle Sam get to take 28 and give you 24.
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But that's the way it works, you know, Uncle.
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No, I want to give you 24 and I take 28.
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What Uncle Santa was. That's, that's why I'm concerned. You always see, notice he always pointing at you and that finger mean when.
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He Talk about he wants you. I want my money back. That's what I want. Federal man, 19 mil. Well, since they slashed Medicaid, I ain't paying no Medicaid tax no more. I ain't paying that. So stop taking it out by check. Nah. Hey, I'll fool with Uncle Sam, Ocho.
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Yeah, man, Uncle Sam don't play by.
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Yeah, I. I'd rather pay him more than I owe. Then not pay him enough. Cause honest mistake is still gonna cost you interest. Yeah, yeah, they interest. They interest. Hit different now. They don't give you the same the interest that they charge you versus the interest that they give you on your money.
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Right.
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It's two different things.
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Yes, sir, two.
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But look, I. I do think he's earned his contract. Ocho, Mr. Irrelevant. He's going to two NFC championship game. He's taken a tune to the Super Bowl. He's. He's gone to a Pro Bowl. And this is the going rate for a quarterback, a good quarterback. Look, everybody can't listen, everybody can't be top five. Even when I was in the league, Ocho, there weren't a whole lot of top five quarterbacks. There's your core, there's your elite guys. Then you got guys underneath, but guys going to. Hey, quarterback's going to command a premium. That's just the way it is. He plays a premium position. It's just like Ocho, you want to go live in San Diego, you go pay premium. You want to go live in the Bay, you're going to play premium. You live in Bel Air, you live in Beverly Hills, you live in Brentwood, you live in Holmby Hills, you live in Malibu. You are going to pay a premium for those locations. Well, he plays quarterback. He doesn't have to be Mahomes in order to get Mahomes esque money.
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No, he's a very, very good quarterback. He's a tier two quarterback.
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Yes.
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That plays extremely well and does what he's asked of in that specific system.
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Yes.
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Very, very efficient level, week in and week out.
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I mean, boy, I'd be crying. But you know, the thing is, Ocho's like, people like, man, just be glad you got it. Okay. That'll mean I want to give it away the whole. I mean, because, you know, you growing up, Ocho, you just see that big number, you like, you ain't even thinking about no taxes. What taxes?
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Oh, it's coming.
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You don't. It don't even cross your mind because the only time you, you have to deal with only time you worry about tax. You go buy a soda and you paying 2 cent or you buy gum or something like that, and you pay a little. Little. Do you know. Damn. That's what you got to Ed. That's what you got to educate people on. O. Is that. Hey, yeah. That thing might say 15 million, but you not bringing home 15 million.
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Chop that in half, baby.
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Depending on where you are. Yeah, that could be half or more than half.
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Yeah, chop it off.
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Yeah. So I'm just saying. Just. Just FYI. So why you. Oh, man, I'm gonna buy this. Buy this. Okay. You know, because I'm gonna want his cut. He want his. Yeah, you want that. And so. Yeah, but he's deserving, Ocho. I mean. And, you know, they took care of. I. I love when teams take care of their guys. That's been really, really well. And don't. All that playing around and we got a handshake deal, and we're going to get this done. Well, he is under contract, man. Go ahead and pay that, man. You do this every year. That's what. That's why you find yourself in the position that you're in. Cowboys, could you wait till the umpteenth hour.
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On purpose?
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Because the thing is, I don't. I don't get why fans don't have a problem. Oh, take a discount. Y' all think. Y' all think these teams give these TVs, these companies deals, these meteorites ain't got no deal. You paying premium. Any. Any advertiser or sponsor are paying a premium for these teams.
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Yeah, but.
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Oh, no, but you do play at.
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A.
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I never understood that. I never understood how fans can be so ingratiating of billionaires and be so hard on a millionaire.
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The loyalty is to the team, not the player. Always.
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Always will because I was a fan of that team before you ever arrived. So when you leave, when you retire, whether they trade you, whether you get cut, you retire. Cowboys still my team.
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Yeah.
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Rams still my team. The Ravens or the Bengals or the. Whomever, the Broncos. That's still my team whether you're there or not. So naturally, the loyalty lies to the team. But I wish they underst. You know, they understood. But, hey, it is what it. We ain't changing nobody's mind now, Ocho. They. They've been. They've been a fan for an extremely long period of time. A lot of times. You grew up. That's who your grandfather, your. Your father, your mom or whomever. Family member. That's who they rooted for. You grew up Rooting for that. And even though you don't live in the same city where that team played in, you go spread your wings. And that's why when you see the Steelers hit the road, that's why they have a lot more people in the home team. When you see the Cowboys or the packers or the Broncos, that is why the Eagles, Eagles, because they travel, grew up. Watch. That was my team. And, and when I became an adult, that's still my team. And guess what? I tell my, my kids and then my kids grow up. That's their team.
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Right.
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Sometimes they branch out like that. I would get my own team. You know, I want to think for myself. I want to do my own thing. But for the most part, Ocho, that's, that's, that's the, that's the way it work right now. You got, you know, new teams that just popped up, but everybody, I mean the last what the Last team or 2002 when the Texans came in because 90, 95, it was the Panthers and the Jags and then the Houston Texans, you know, became a franchise because after the, the Oilers left and went to, with the net, you know, went to Memphis and first and then they came. Came on down to Nashville. So. And I don't know. I don't think you will get. I don't. It's so perfectly balanced now, Ocho. You know, you got 32 teams. You got eight four team divisions and things like that. So it would be hard to bring in one team. Maybe you bring in two. But who got, I mean, who got an extra $7 million? Jerry don't want another team in Texas. No, the Florida teams don't want another team in Florida. You got, you got three. You got Jacksonville, you got Miami, you got Tampa. Where the hell you gonna put them at? Oo, that's a.
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Ain't no way. Ain't nowhere to put them.
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Texas. You got the Cowboys, you got the. And the, and the, the Texans. They don't want another team in Texas. So where can you put it? Where can you put them? These college towns don't want you to bring no damn teams up there. So look like we stuck for a while unless somebody move. And, and I think didn't the. The Washington commanders, didn't they just. Didn't they just close on. They're gonna be orfk. They're gonna build a new stadium right there. Yeah.
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It's not that far away though.
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Nope. Aston Genti said Daniel Carson could buy a car with the cost of the Raiders number two jersey. The star running Back said kicker Daniel Carson, who was formerly number two, could purchase a new car with the money he was given by Genty for the number. You could probably buy a house. Actually, I'm not going to say a house, but you can buy a car like a nice Mercedes. Genti wouldn't reveal the exact figure he paid, but it was a significant. If Carson can buy a car with it, I won the majority of my career. It's a day of greatness was born. And the day I was born, December 2 is a family number. All my family members who played sports wore the number two. Ocho. What is the most money you would spend for the number? 85.
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Shoot, when I went. When I went to the.
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Now I'm talking about. Now I'm saying under the impression that first round pick, you're a top pick. Let's just say a top 10 pick. Cause Genti was 6 pick in the draft.
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I mean, being that it has sentimental value, maybe, maybe close to. And he was a top pick like that. He was number six, right?
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Yeah.
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Maybe a hundred thousand because of what the number means. Especially what the number means to him. Hell, I had to pay for 85 from when I went to the Patriots from Aaron Hernandez.
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How would you pay for it?
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I think maybe 25 grand.
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You said that's the number. That's what you said. That's what I would have said. I would have said a hundred thousand.
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Yeah, he showed. He showed love, though. You showed love?
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Yeah. A hundred thousand. Yeah. You can't be ocho with 81. 82, 83, 84, 86, 88, 89. You can't be Ocho with that chat. If you guys were a top 10 pick and you had a special number that you had pretty much worn through high school and college, what is it? The amount that you would spend to get that number. Because like most guys are superstitious. Ocho.
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Yeah, I mean, listen you. He talked about this family wearing a number. Him being born on the second, ran it through college. His family wore number two. I mean, but a hundred thousand is that. That's the. That's the limit. That's the limit. I'm not going over that.
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Absolute limit.
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Anything over that, man. Man, go ahead, forget you. I just started a new line. I start a new number, a new number of importance at that point.
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Yeah, don't call me oo. Don't call me OO Right now you call me Ocho, but don't call me Cinco. Yeah, I think Juan Soto gave. Bought the guy a new Tahoe for 22, right? He probably making 3 million. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. But if you want that number, don't worry about what I'm making. You want a number or don't. Don't worry about. Don't count my pockets. What? You want the number? Because I gladly keep kicking field goals in it. I thought you wanted it.
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Yeah, I mean, as a. As a kicker, you should. You should be willing to come up off your number, especially.
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I ain't giving up nothing, play it like that. Unfortunately, I ain't gonna be able to do that. I wish it was something I could tell you to make you feel better, but no, I can't.
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I'mma. I'mma pay for it.
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Yeah. 100. 100 grand is what I do. Yeah. 100 grand.
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Yeah.
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And I don't know, hold on. Shohei Otani bought. Bought old boy wife a car. Bought a Porsche.
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Yeah.
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That's what. Yeah, that I know. Juan Soto bought the guy that gave him 22. He bought him a Tahoe, but Shohei bought the player that he got. I don't even know what Shohei number is. But he ended. I know. He ended up buying the guy's wife a Porsche. Yeah.
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I mean, the kind of money they making, that's different.
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Well, he do think about. He got, see getting 70 million in salary, and he's probably doing another 10, 15, 20, 30 million in endorsement, especially which in Japan, the Asian market. He's. He king. He's King Kong. I mean, had. Had. I mean, the perfect name for him would be Godzilla. But had decade. Matsui had that name, so he can't be Godzilla. Yeah. Yes. He deferred it. He only making 1 million a year now. But he deferred.
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He deferred on the back end.
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Yeah. He said, I'm gonna go back to Japan and uncle and California. Y' all not gonna get all my money. Y' all not gonna get all this bread, huh? Yeah, for sure. But Ocho and I in agreeance. 100 foul. Ocho. There was a viral tick tock trend going around the NFL where players were calling their teammates to wish them a good night. Mikey Commanders. Mikey sends real got in on the fun last night and called his quarterback. Let's take a look at this. Ocho.
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This was so fun.
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Yo, bro. Yo, C.B.
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That'S an animal.
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Yeah, so I'm gonna just see you tomorrow, bro. I was just kind of say goodnight.
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Bro. What the. Huh?
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Bro, we good.
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What you mean?
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You just call it and say good night. Like, bro. Good night, bro.
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You my dog, bro.
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I'M just checking in real quick. I just talked to you five minutes ago. I know that, but weird.
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Like, I say good night, bro, like.
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Sleep well, bro, bro.
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Bro, I can't tell my homies, like, sleep well, bro.
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Get good rest. Hey, bro, bro, I don't know what type of shenanigans you on right now, bro, but you at the real bonkers right now. Hey, boy, I hit that look here. I said, boy, if you don't get your ass off my phone. And hung up so quick. I was like, are you for real? Good night. Oh, man.
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Hey, all, all my homies, man, would, man, if you don't get your ass off my goddamn phone.
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Yeah, man.
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They would have known something was up because it's something that I, that, that I don't. That I don't do. No, they would have started cracking jokes, would have said some crazy stuff. Yeah, that, that.
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I was like, hey, man, you okay over there? Is that. Is that cold for something? Somebody got you kidnapped? You hostage or something?
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Hey, blink twice if you need help.
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Yeah. What you doing? Why you play it like this? Sharp, what's wrong with you?
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Hey, they listen. I can't record nothing like that.
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All my people don't say, yeah, yeah, yeah, that I can't even post. Yeah, yeah, you that. That ain't something I could do live, boy, you don't get your ass off my phone. O Joe. It's official. NFL players will be allowed to compete in flag football in LA 28 Olympic Games. NFL owners have now officially approved a resolution to allow their players to participate in flag football in the 2028 Summer Olympics. By vote 32. 0 unanimous. The NFL version of the Dream Team is coming. Justin Jefferson on flag football and Olympics and the NFL being able to participate. To be honest, I'm at a loss for word to think about a chance for playing in the Olympics and getting a gold medal. It's a dream 5 on 5 format which each team filled in a 10 man roster comprised of the following positions. A quarterback who could only run past the line of scrimmage after handing the ball off and and receiving a lateral or going out for a pass. A center who can only go out for a pass immediately after snapping the ball. Wide receiver back, who can line up as either standard running back or wide receiver. A rusher who can rush the quarterback from seven yards off the line of scrimmage. Defensive back who's defensively functioning functions as a traditional corner safety who prioritizes defending the pass over the run. Here are the rules. Ocho the field is 70 yards by 25 yards. 40 minute games, two 20 minute half including a two minute warning. Four downs to reach midfields and four downs to score. Touchdown. No plays within five yards of the end zone. Overtime for stor a score is tied with each team getting equal chance to win. Oo your general manager. Pick a ten man squad.
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Oh my ten man squad.
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Y. Lamar at quarterback.
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You got Lamar.
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You better take Lamar cause he can run that throw.
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Okay, yeah, we got, we got Lamar. Quarterback, give me, give me Chase, give me Justin. Okay, we need a running back, right?
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Yeah.
B
Give me Saquon. What else? We need.
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You, you need running back. You need two wide receivers, a quarterback. You need Russia corner.
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Give me Stingley. Give me Sting on one side. Give me PS2. Give me PS2 on the other side. My safety. Give me Derwin. Give me Derwin. He can get back there. He rangy as hell. We need a linebacker. We need somebody in that middle, huh?
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You better get somebody that can rush the passer. You need Micah, you want Miles.
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Gary, give me Michael. He's a little bit more, little bit more quick twitch. Give me Michael. Can I get Fred warning now?
A
Hold on. I think you trying to, you think, you trying to feel a whole. A real damage.
B
No, no, no. I'm just, I'm just saying, I'm thinking flag football.
A
Okay. You get a quarterback, a center, wide receiver, back rusher, db, safe and out of center.
B
Also can go out for a pass though. So it's not going to be a real center.
A
Yes. So you gonna take Tyreek?
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Yeah, let's, let's add Tyreek. Gonna be my center. You laughing, but also this is, Let me, let me, let me say something real quick. Now. I understand that NFL players could do it, but we have, we have legit.
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Flag, flag football team. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Play the game. So I'm, I'm hoping, I'm hoping they're integrated into this as well somewhat. Because the game, obviously the game of flag football is going to be new to those that are playing in the NFL. And the rules are much different. It's much different. It's much, much different. So I'm hoping those that play flag football are able to represent, you know, the country as well and, and allowed to play alongside the NFL players. I'm, I'm, I'm hoping that's what it is. It's not strictly only NFL players.
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Yeah. Right now they're proposed roster to 2028 Olympic team. CBS Sports say this would be the proposed roster. Ocho, Jaden Daniels @ quarterback, running back, Jameer Gibbs. At running back, wide receiver, Devon Achan. Running back, wide receiver Justin Jefferson. Wide receiver, DB Jamar Chase. Wide receiver, DB Travis Hunter. Wide receiver, DB Rush, Michael Parsons. Rush Nolan Smith Jr. Corner Darryl Stingley Jr. Safety Maxwell Hairston.
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You know what, that's not bad. That's not bad. But maybe we got, we got to have more people out there than that though. Not on the field. I'm just saying as far as far as reserves. As far as reserves, we need more reserves.
A
Well, you got a 10 man team. 2, 4, 6, 8, 10. That's 10.
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Yeah, that.
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I mean the 10 man team that we, that CBS pick. I'm probably going to pick somebody, somebody that's elusive, quick twitch. So Jaden Daniels and Lamar are going to be my quarterbacks. I like Gibbs at running.
B
I said Saquon, but Gibbs is a lot.
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28 I think. You know I would go say Christian McCaffrey but he might be a little. I like Gibbs. I'm thinking who another running back that can catch, you know what I'm saying? That can catch because mainly they ain't gonna be running, they're gonna be throwing them the ball.
B
I like Gibbs the best. That's why I say Quan. It's either one of the two I'm talking about that can get gone.
A
But, but all but the running backs and receivers are interchangeable because they're running back or receiver. So you can line them up anywhere. So I like Chase, I like Jetta, I like Tyreek, I like a Chan, I like Micah. I like that. You know who, who is a good rusher like Nolan Smith. I like Will Anderson Jr. That's a good one.
B
He real twitchy.
A
Cause you gotta got guys gotta be able to change direction though a little bit. Hey them guys starting to stop it and plus you gotta realize these players haven't played flag football in 25 years.
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That's why when I thought about it I'm like well damn, we got players, we got people that represent, that represent us that play the game of flag.
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Football, that actually play flag football.
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I'm still curious. I know we talk about the NFL players and how good they are in the NFL, but playing flag football and their rules are completely and entirely different. Entirely different game. Damn, that's a good.
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When Ashton Genti makes his NFL debut for the Las Vegas Raiders this season, he might be adding debuting a new pre snap stance in the backfield. Since high school, Genti has stood straight up with his hands by his side in the backfield. Before the Staff my stance that some have compared to Mike Myers, the infamous killer in Halloween horror movies. Chip Kelly, the Raiders offensive coordinator, wants me to adopt that different stance. Ocho, you have to understand, if you put, oh, if you put him down on the down a three point stance, how is he gonna see? He already five, eight. So how tall was it when he started playing football? Five foot. What he gonna see the process starting the first day of Raiders recent man camp. You know, sometimes you have to, you have to go with the flow. J said Kelly asked him if he had ever played basketball. I'm like, yeah, I play basketball. You know, I can dunk and all that. He like, okay, show me how you would guard. And he's acting like he's holding the ball. You don't like. You don't like guys ch. You don't like the coach changing the stance.
B
What are we doing? What, what is, what is Chip Kelly doing? What are you doing? The man has had success playing the game of running back in the same stance all this time. Now all of a sudden he gets to the Raiders. You want to change the way he stands. It has nothing to do with running the goddamn ball at all, right? It's not giving away any indication. No indicators. Leave a man alone, man.
A
What?
B
What? Listen, some coaches, some coaches get a little beside themselves. Just create, just creating a narrative just to feel, just to not, not really abuse your power. Just, just do, just be unnecessary. Change the stance for what? It's unnecessary and it's pointless.
A
Tell me. So we both know, because I, if there is something that, if that him standing in that stance was an indicator. It's a run, it's a pass. I said, okay, he needs the same. But hell, you can't tell. He's just standing there.
B
He does the same thing every time. Run, play, pass play. Nothing changes. And all of a sudden he gets to you. Okay, we want to change for what makes no sense.
A
I wouldn't change. I, I, the thing is, Ocho, unless it's something like you really try to change as little as possible. I mean, maybe there's some technical things you like, you know, with a wide receiver, you're like, okay, son, don't let your elbows flare out when you're doing the hook and stuff like that. You try to keep your elbows tight to your body, things like that. You know, hey, you tipping your route because you're getting your head around to, you let me know you're gonna run out or you let, you're gonna come back or something like that. But other than That I ain't really trying to tinker with too much because I liked it enough to. To select them six overall. So there's something that I like. I mean, and you knew that he's.
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Been doing it that way for a very long time. He was successful doing it that way for a very long time. And here's. So you want to add your little twing to it just to say, well, he's able to do this because this is what I told him to do. Come on, man.
A
It's kind of like Michael Johnson running style. Why would I change that? You know, people keep saying Quincy Winston, Quincy Wilson, the young guy from bullets, running the 400, man, bro. To do run 4420. Change what? Same thing with Abby Steiner. Well, you know, she got that arm. And all I know is he ran 21:8 and she ran sub. You know, she can run sub. You know, she can run sub 11. So all that other stuff that y' all talking, and she could run sub 50 into 400 meters. I ain't changing the eyes. She's doing something right. So, Ocho, Dak Prescott is 1500 yards away becoming the all time passing leader. No, Dak needs 1500 yards to pass Troy Aikman. He needs 2740 to pass Tony Romo. So he's about. He should pass Tony Romo to become the all time passing cowboy. Until. Until I know he gonna get married. Congratulations. That. But if you want to be thought of like Aikman, like Starbucks.
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Gotta get that rain, huh?
A
Ain't no way around it. Ain't no way around.
B
Most definitely. Most definitely. I mean, listen, when it comes to the Cowboys, I'm not sure how. How much window of opportunity they have left. I think the addition of George Pickens, you know how I feel about him. Offensively, I think they're gonna be all right. When it comes to the Cowboys, it's going to be your defense. Your defense. Crowds show up because you're going to be able to put up point.
A
Yeah.
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Demon grab to show up. You know, that's all it's going to come down to, especially in that division, you know, is.
A
Diggs. Is Trayvon gonna be able to come back?
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Yeah, he's.
A
And how soon will he come back?
B
Right.
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They brought back Dante Fowler. He followed DQ over to the Raider. Excuse me. The commanders, they resigned him. They want to pair him with Micah. Obviously. We know Micah wants that. Big deal. Micah's looking for 40 million. You know, I think he wants to be the highest paid or close to it. I don't know if the highest paid means as much as guaranteed money means to him. We'll see how that plays out. But how, how close is Trayvon from being able to go?
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Wes, He's a, he's a year removed from that surgery because you know he went a little bit last year, man.
A
I know.
B
So I think obviously this, this second year, two years removed from it. I think. I think he's now.
A
He had another surgery.
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Another.
A
Didn't he have another surgery? He didn't finish the season.
B
He got hurt again?
A
I think so. Didn't Trayvon Diggs have surgery on something? I know over street is going to be gone this year. He ain't coming back or they just shut Trayvon down. He coming back from an injury. Ojo I think it's not.
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I'm wondering if it something serious. I don't think it's something serious as ACL though.
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Dance Bryant, former Cowboy great receiver, tweeted if the Cowboys go get chubbed, combine him with Blue. The Cowboys offense will be the most dangerous in the NFL. I really can't find a con if that happens. Think about it. Blue gets to learn from a dynamic back who plays the game the right way. That's how you mold a young, promising running back. Dak really quick pick your poison situation. CEO Pickens can put the ball in the end zone anywhere on the field. There are so many strategic ways for the Cowboys offense for success. I think the defense is going to perform well, but how well we know Micah and Diggs are going to perform, I'm skeptical to see how the new these changes affect the defense. To sum it up, I don't think the boys are trying to win. I think they should make a few more sacrifices to compete with the new improved NFC east division.
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Listen, make a splash, Jerry. Make a splash. What DEZ Bryan says makes so much sense. It makes so much sense. You know Jerry's not going to do it. Signing Derrick Henry and not using money as an issue, not being able to afford a player like Derrick Henry that has succeeded continuously despite his age in Baltimore. Listen, now you have opportunity to do it again. Make a splash again. Help your offense out. Your identity is on offense. It's what you will be known for. You have, you have special pieces, you know, on defense. They're going to have to do what they need to do but be all in offensively so you can compete in that nfc, NFC East. Wait, no. And this right?
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Oh, how about this? Trey7 Trayvon tweeted this yesterday. My ACL rehab journey was Very successful. I ended up coming back to play two months sooner than I was supposed to. Follow my journey as I give you direct insight on how I did just that. Thankful for everyone who played a role with me getting back out there. Episode one out now.
B
That's live. I gotta, I gotta check that out. I gotta. I didn't know he re injured it. I ain't know that.
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Fred Warner signs a three year 63 million dollar contract extension over 56 million guaranteed. The deal ties Warner to the team through 2029. The rework deal also returns Warner to the top of the list of the highest paid off ball linebackers in the league at 21 million per season. Remember Roquan just signed that deal last year that paid him 20 million per season and bought it him to the top. Now Fred is back at the top of that list. You see also they just paid Brock purdy. He got 265, he got 181 million guaranteed. Fred got 63 million, 56 million guaranteed. Ojo, you like the moves they're making?
B
Absolutely. They took care of their three, their three centerpieces, they three cent, they three centerpieces for that team, kiddos. Obviously the quarterback Rock Purdy and then their defensive leader and Fred Warner who is the best middle lineback in the game. So rightfully so at some point, you know, despite what Roquan Smith got, you know you have to, you have to do right, you got, you got to do right by Fred, you. So I mean hopefully they can, they can, they can stay healthy on both sides of the ball and contend again, you know, for another championship.
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Joe Burrow says Trey Hendrickson deserved to get paid amid beagles contract talks. Having previously vouched for T. Higgins to get paid by the Cincinnati Bengals, Joe Burrow is now stepping up for Trey Hendrickson amid his contract standoff with the organization. Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Burrow addressed Hendrickson contract by saying he deserves to get paid based on how important he is to Cincinnati's defense.
B
That's gonna be tough, huh? Listen, I don't know the books, I don't.
A
Joe spending all their money Oo Joe spending all day money.
B
Joe trying to squeeze him now. And one thing you don't want to do is you took care of Joe offensively making sure Chase and T. Higgins were taken care of, both of them taking most of the money. I don't, I don't know the cap. I don't know what we have left to actually spend. But we still need to be able to, to have a team to Be able to pay everyone else. All the money can't be locked up off, you know, on, on offense. Can we pay Trey?
A
Think about how bad your defense was. And you had Trey hendricks, who was 17 and a half sacks, 35 sacks over the last two years. So you take him out there, where you gonna get that production from?
B
You take him out of there.
A
Yes.
B
Hey, can you afford him is the problem. Can you?
A
The question is, can you afford not to, man? Oh, I, I, I don't know. I, I don't know if I can afford this insurance. Can you afford to be without it, given your history? You know, you got hypertension, you got diabetes, you got all these ailments that run in your family. So the question isn't what can you afford it? Can you afford not to have it? Hey, that's, that's, that's, you know how many games y' all lost last year, Ocho? How many games did y' all give up? 30 plus points. And you lost, you scored 35 and you lost, you scored 38 and you lose how many of those? So while you're saying, can you afford it? Can you afford not to have it?
B
Listen, I, I wish I knew what the books look like, huh? I understand the salary cap, it continues to go up year in and year out. But listen, we got a 40 million dollar receiver, we got a 30 million dollar receiver, we got a $55 million quarterback. And what he deserves at the defensive end with two 17 season sacks.
A
17 1/2 sacks?
B
Yeah, I mean he, he got to get what, upwards of what, 30?
A
You looking for 30? The reports are they offered him 28. Up from, up from like 15. I think he's supposed to make what, 15 this year? He's gonna want to be in the 30s.
B
That's tough. That's tough.
A
And the thing is, oo, but look like you got a defense that, that staying in the offense, that's staying in the Taj Mahal and, and, and, and, and, and hey, and your defense, sleeping on some friends, family's couches.
B
I, I don't even know. I wouldn't even know what to do in this situation. I wouldn't know because you got, some people say, well, hell, he had 17 sacks, but still the defense was bad.
A
Can you imagine what it looked like if he didn't have those things? Remember what he did. He single handedly won you that game in Pittsburgh. Now remember that.
B
Even the three sacks. He did, he did, he did.
A
And a force fumble the end of the game, basically.
B
That's tough.
A
Joe Burg was not happy about the team schedule for the upcoming season. Playing Baltimore for the fourth straight year in primetime is an ideal. Maybe we can get one of those games in Cincinnati. Please. The Bengals have played a night game at MT Bank State Stadium each of the past three seasons. All of them have been defeats, including last year's. 35, 34. Remember what you did? Score 34 points, lost. Remember? Hey, the other week they scored 38 and they lost 4,138.
B
Listen, I know. Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe wanted to be home. Obviously, it makes sense, but, hell, when you play the goddamn Ravens, you got one home game. You got one.
A
He said, well, let our game be the. Let our game be the prime time game.
B
Yeah, that's. I don't know. It. It don't make me none. Nighttime, daytime, any damn.
A
But you played with a shield, too. Did you play with a shield?
B
I need to see. I need to see it. I need you to see my eyes. I don't wear no shield. No, sir.
A
I had a. Why? I played with a shield for one year after I fractured my problem. I played with a shield. But it's hard because, you know, for a wide receiver, you're not really in the down stance. As a tight end, you down in the down stance and that sweat dripping on the shield.
B
Yeah, I don't like that. What, you want a clear one or the.
A
I wore a clear one.
B
Now.
A
I wore. I wore the dark one in the Pro bowl, but I. I don't know how guys. I don't know how receivers catch with that dark one. Especially at night.
B
A.J. brown Wear a dark one. I don't. I don't know how they do that.
A
I mean, because it's. It's hard getting adjusted, you know, because we not. You play a night game, you go out there that Saturday night to get your eyes adjusted, get your cleats and everything adjusted. And that glare, you catch it just right because, you know, sometimes that ball get lost up in the light. They're like, man, bro, I could see that damn ball up in the lights.
B
That's crazy.
A
Burrow is also disappointing NFL for not giving them an international game. He says he worked really hard. He's worked really hard to grow the NFL internationally. And it's disappointing. They haven't had one yet. But he is doing quarterbacks, correct? I think, yeah. Are you disappointed, Ocho, that you did not have a. A international game? Because they probably would ask you to go to be an ambassador.
B
I mean, that would have been cool. That have been cool. I got My passport too. But I mean, listen, their time will come. Obviously. You know what? That long flight, you should be thankful. You don't have to fly there during the season anyway. You should be thankful. And listen, it's not Ocho.
A
They, you know, they get over there. They get over the. The day before. Right.
B
Again, why they shouldn't. Where they should be happy. They don't have to take no 7, 8, 8, 9 hour flight, go across that water.
A
Yeah. They might arrive the day of.
B
You think so?
A
I mean, that night they might. Because it's not like you. It used to. Because they would. Guy teams would go over there like that. Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday. They don't do that anymore, Joe.
B
They probably get all the practice in before they even leave. Do a walk through and get there.
A
They say studies and doctors say it's best to just go over there and just go play the game.
B
Look at that. That's, that's, that's a. A double S backwards.
A
I got some sad news. Ocho coast owner Jim Ursay passes away. He led the team since 1997 and presided over the what story Franchise's greatest errors. He was 65 years a day. 65 years of. 65 years of age. Excuse me. Earlier today, he posted on X his support for his Indiana Pacers and Herb Simon ahead of their opening game in the Eastern Conference finals. New York Knicks. He wrote, go Pacers. Good luck to Herb, the entire Pacer organization and our city. He passed shortly after that. I've only met him a handful of times. Most of the owners, I mean, let me stop saying most every owner that I meet, they're always gracious to me. They always. I respect the way you play, really love the way you do. You can tell you study, love that you, you know, you love the NFL and we appreciate. Wish we had more guys like you. All of them, Mr. Blank. Jim Ursay, when he was in, when he was with the, the, the, the Hornets, uh, Jerry Richardson, all. I mean, I know, all I know for the most part, all of them, uh, and they've always been very, very, very, you know, respectful to me. And it's, you know, death is never fair, man. I mean, when you, when you, when you were young, it's like, damn. But now, you know, that's the one thing about it is it can't be fair. Can't. Yep. You got to take black, white, you got to take young, old, you got to take men, women.
B
That's the way. Hey, Joe. Though the way I've always been. That's the Way I live. I live the way I live, huh? Every day. I treat every day like it's my last. I'm always happy. Why are you always smiling? But why are you always laughing? Why are you always telling people you love them everywhere you go? Why would you meet people, you hug them. You hug them. You act like you'd have known them 30 years. Because I never know. I never know. So if. If in. In remembrance of whenever it's time for me to transition, that moment, that one moment, you always remember, it's always, always a good one. It'll always be a good one. The funny thing about life is when you're born, you never know when your expiration date is. You never know when your expiration date is. So I always love to live life, each day as if it's my last. Which is why I look at people that think they can. No matter what you do, you know, if you believe in God, you understand. God knows when that day is. You don't. But for some reason, people on earth have this inclination that there are certain things I can do in life that can extend that expiration date. That's not the way it works. It's not. That's not the way it works. You can't extend anything. Well, when it's time to go and then not coming to. Calling at the door. You hear me? When that not call, well, you coming.
A
Home, it's the one appointment you can't reschedule.
B
Man. Stop playing, man. Stop playing. Oh, I can eat this and I live a little bit longer, or I can do this and I live. I mean, what. Who. What, man, if you don't get out here and live and enjoy yourself before that time come. Because you don't know, man.
A
So it's. I'm sure the. Because he was a very generous man to the city of Indianapolis. He loved his Colts. Obviously his dad. I think his dad's name was Bob.
B
His name.
A
I think his daddy name was Bob. Or say he took over for his dad. I think his daughter's gonna take over for him.
B
Man. That's sad, man.
A
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Podcast Summary: Club Shay Shay – "Nightcap Best of NFL - Part 1: Steelers Clock on Rodgers + Nick Chubb to Cowboys?"
Release Date: May 25, 2025
Host: iHeartPodcasts and Shay Shay Media
Guest: Shannon Sharpe (NFL Legend, 3x Super Bowl Champion, Pro Football Hall of Fame)
Timestamp: [00:00] – [03:10]
The episode kicks off with a heated debate between the hosts regarding Saquon Barkley’s assertion that the 2024 Philadelphia Eagles deserve recognition as a top-five team of all time.
Saquon Barkley passionately states, “[...] I think we're a top five team of all time” ([00:00]).
Shannon Sharpe counters, “Top five is a little…" ([03:10]) emphasizing that while the Eagles had an impressive season, historically elite teams like the Patriots, Steelers, and 49ers hold more substantial claims.
Timestamp: [03:10] – [04:58]
The conversation shifts to the Pittsburgh Steelers’ pursuit of quarterback Aaron Rodgers. Shannon highlights Art Rooney II’s determination, stating, “Art Rooney II is willing to wait however long it takes to get Aaron Rodgers” ([04:17]).
They discuss Rodgers’ leverage in negotiations due to his past accomplishments, contrasting his potential impact versus alternatives like Mason Rudolph. Shannon asserts, “He has the leverage right now because of what he's accomplished in the past” ([04:58]).
Timestamp: [04:58] – [14:34]
A substantial portion delves into quarterback performances and contracts, focusing on Brock Purdy. Brock declares himself a “top 10 quarterback,” leading to a debate over his ranking.
Shannon Sharpe articulates his view on Purdy’s role: “I don't believe he can just take ordinary people and make them great” ([10:23]). They discuss Purdy’s recent contract—five years for $265 million, with $181 million guaranteed—and the substantial tax implications he faces.
Notable Quotes:
Timestamp: [24:32] – [33:52]
The hosts explore the NFL’s decision to allow players to compete in flag football at the 2028 Summer Olympics. They outline the unique rules and team compositions proposed for the event, expressing enthusiasm and curiosity about NFL players adapting to the different format.
Shannon Sharpe expresses hope for integration: “I'm hoping they're integrated into this as well somewhat” ([30:22]).
Timestamp: [19:26] – [23:55]
A lighter segment discusses the sentimental value of player jersey numbers. Shannon shares anecdotes about players and their connections to specific numbers, debating how much money one might spend to secure a meaningful number.
Shannon Sharpe jokes, “100 grand is what I do” when asked about purchasing a favorite number ([22:23]).
Timestamp: [35:18] – [46:44]
The hosts provide an in-depth analysis of the Dallas Cowboys, focusing on their offensive strategies and defensive challenges. They discuss potential acquisitions, player performances, and strategic moves needed to enhance the team’s competitiveness in the NFC East.
Shannon Sharpe comments on the Cowboys’ offensive potential: “The Cowboys offense will be the most dangerous in the NFL” if they acquire Nick Chubb and pair him with Kyler Murray ([40:51]).
Timestamp: [46:44] – [53:40]
The discussion turns to contract negotiations and extensions, highlighting Fred Warner’s new three-year, $63 million deal, positioning him among the highest-paid linebackers. They also touch on Trey Hendrickson’s contract standoff with the Bengals, emphasizing his critical role in the defense.
Shannon Sharpe underscores Warner’s importance: “They took care of their three centerpieces” ([43:32]).
Timestamp: [52:20] – [54:34]
In a reflective moment, Shannon shares personal philosophies on life and legacy, emphasizing the importance of living each day fully and cherishing relationships. This segment serves as a poignant reminder of the unpredictable nature of life.
Shannon Sharpe muses, “You never know when your expiration date is” ([53:35]).
Timestamp: [54:02] – [54:34]
The episode concludes with a heartfelt tribute to Jim Ursay, the departing owner of the Indianapolis Colts. Shannon expresses respect for Ursay’s leadership and his contributions to the team and community.
Shannon Sharpe reflects, “He was a very generous man to the city of Indianapolis” ([54:29]).
In this episode of Club Shay Shay, Shannon Sharpe and his co-host engage in a comprehensive analysis of current NFL dynamics, touching on team legacies, quarterback performances, contract negotiations, and personal reflections. The discussion provides valuable insights for fans keen on understanding the intricacies of the league’s evolving landscape, all while delivering Shannon’s signature blend of expertise and candid commentary.
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