Nightcap Best of NFL - Part 2: A.J. Brown THE BEST WR in the NFL?! + Christian Wilkins caught KISSING teammate!!

Summary

Club Shay Shay: Nightcap Best of NFL - Part 2: A.J. Brown THE BEST WR in the NFL?! + Christian Wilkins Caught KISSING Teammate!!

Release Date: July 30, 2025
Host: Shannon Sharpe
Guests: Chad Johnson
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts and Shay Shay Media

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1. Aging and Adaptability in the NFL

Shannon Sharpe and Chad Johnson delve into the challenges faced by aging NFL players, emphasizing the importance of adaptability for longevity in the league.

• Sharpe: "The greatest key to survival. Survival is adaptability." (03:07)

They discuss how older players like Terry Bradshaw maintain their relevance by sticking to proven methods, contrasting them with newer generations who embrace change and innovation.

• Johnson: "Everybody doesn't act that way. Everybody's not a robot in their approach to the game." (02:32)

2. Analysis of Terry Bradshaw's Era vs. Current Players

The conversation shifts to Terry Bradshaw's impact and longevity in the NFL, highlighting his Super Bowl successes and the differences in player conduct and adaptability between his era and today.

• Sharpe: "Terry won four Super Bowls in six years. The less distractions you present for the team, the better off you're going to be." (03:18)

They compare Bradshaw's disciplined approach to the more relaxed attitudes of younger players, questioning the sustainability of maintaining such an environment in modern teams.

3. Is A.J. Brown the Best Wide Receiver in the NFL?

A significant portion of the discussion centers around A.J. Brown's performance and his standing among the league's elite wide receivers.

• Johnson: "He’s at the top five receivers you can put on any team and they’re going to be productive." (10:33)
• Sharpe: "AJ Brown is a big, physical receiver. He's phenomenal." (14:04)

Darius Slay's assertion that A.J. Brown is the best WR is examined, with Sharpe and Johnson debating the merits of Brown compared to other top receivers like Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, and Tyreek Hill.

• Slay's Quote: "AJ is doing is line up at X. Come see about me if you want to see about me." (10:26)

4. Evaluating the Top NFL Receivers

The hosts list and evaluate the current top NFL receivers, discussing their roles, skill sets, and impact on their respective teams.

• Sharpe: "I disagree with Slay on that part. I get what he's saying." (11:27)

They acknowledge the versatility of players like Tyreek Hill and Justin Jefferson but argue that A.J. Brown's consistent performance makes him stand out.

5. Christian Wilkins' Teammate Incident

A controversial topic arises with the discussion of Christian Wilkins allegedly kissing a teammate, leading to his release from the team.

• Shafter's Report: "Christian Wilkins kissed a fellow player on the head, and the teammate took offense to it." (24:00)

Sharpe and Johnson debate the appropriateness of such behavior in the NFL, reflecting on the evolution of locker room dynamics and the shift from traditional pranks to more serious interactions.

• Sharpe: "Guys don't play like that anymore. It's a different time." (26:22)

6. Contract Negotiations: Terry McLaurin vs. DK Metcalf

The conversation shifts to contract negotiations, focusing on Terry McLaurin's pursuit of a higher salary compared to DK Metcalf.

• Shafter's Comments: "McLaurin wants considerably more than DK." (40:13)

They analyze the financial dynamics within the NFL, discussing how market demands and player performance influence contract offers.

• Johnson: "He’s in the final year of his contract, which he's due to make a base salary of 15.5 million and carry a cap hit of 25 million." (41:35)

7. The A.J. Brown Trade and Its Implications

Reflecting on the 2022 trade where the Titans exchanged A.J. Brown for multiple draft rights, Sharpe and Johnson express their skepticism about the Titans' decision.

• Sharpe: "I don't know what Tennessee was thinking. They thought Trey and Burks was the answer." (46:54)

They question the Titans' strategy, suggesting that the trade may have been motivated by financial considerations rather than purely on-field performance.

8. Locker Room Dynamics and Player Behavior

The hosts explore the changing nature of locker room interactions, contrasting past and present behaviors among players.

• Sharpe: "Back in my day, we had pranks like putting toothpaste on a guy's door in training camp." (34:34)

They lament the loss of traditional camaraderie and playful interactions, attributing such changes to evolving societal norms and the increasing professionalism in the NFL.

9. Reflections on Player Careers and Aging

Sharpe shares personal anecdotes about aging and career longevity, emphasizing the swift passage of time and its impact on athletes.

• Sharpe: "These years go by fast. I just remember celebrating the 50th birthday. Now I'm closer to 60 than I am to 50." (53:56)

Johnson echoes these sentiments, discussing how aging affects players' performance and contract negotiations.

10. Closing Insights and Future Outlook

In their closing remarks, Sharpe and Johnson reflect on the current state of the NFL, anticipating future developments in player contracts, team strategies, and locker room cultures.

• Johnson: "You got to fight for what you want because you only get this kind of leverage one time." (44:51)

They express hope for talented players like Christian Wilkins to overcome controversies and continue their careers, while also looking forward to emerging talents shaping the future of the league.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Shannon Sharpe: "The greatest key to survival. Survival is adaptability." (03:07)
• Darius Slay: "AJ is doing is line up at X. Come see about me if you want to see about me." (10:26)
• Shannon Sharpe: "Guys don't play like that anymore. It's a different time." (26:22)
• Shannon Sharpe: "These years go by fast. I just remember celebrating the 50th birthday. Now I'm closer to 60 than I am to 50." (53:56)

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Conclusion

In this episode of Club Shay Shay, Shannon Sharpe and Chad Johnson provide an in-depth analysis of current NFL dynamics, focusing on player adaptability, performance evaluations, contract negotiations, and evolving locker room cultures. The discussion offers valuable insights for fans looking to understand the complexities of the league and the factors influencing player careers and team strategies.

Transcript

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

A 20 year age gap. So if I'm, if I'm 57, Terry's got to be 77. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hold on. So he came out. So he had to came. If he didn't register that, they weren't registered like that back then. So he came out at 21, 22 in 1970. And it's what, 19? It's 20, 25 now. That's 55. That's 55 years. So he gotta be. He's got to be 77. Maybe 78. Hell, let me. You know what, let me google this. Let me see how old Terry. But it's hard for me to believe he's anything other than that. Ocho.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because like I said, it's ted Bradshaw. He's 76, born in 1948. He'll be 77 September 2nd. So I'm right, Right on it.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. You own it. Using mad. You good with numbers?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, like I said, I don't think they red shirted a whole lot back then because, you know, college. Try to get your ass up out of there. Hey, they were trying to pay for an extra year. But I think the thing is, is that if you look at those old, old guys, you play football, you keep your mouth shut, you go home.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, that's old.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All that other stuff, it annoys them.

[Chad Johnson]

But you just said something earlier when we were talking about the super bowl tickets and about adapting.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Some of the old players from that era back in those times, they had a way of doing things. But now listen, we, we in air, we. We've moved on and advanced in certain areas, especially the game of football. Everybody doesn't act that way. Everybody's not a robot in their approach to the game and how they play or see it. So to adapt as well, which many of them haven't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no. Because I think the greatest key to survival. Survival is adaptability.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And because the players were that way, the coaches went that that way, ownership was that way. And so they don't see this like, bro. And with Terry, Terry won four Super Bowls in six years.

[Chad Johnson]

Four.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And so he's like, this method is tried and true. The less distractions you present for the team, the better off you're going to be. All this talking and all. But, but that's, that's how they do it. Because, look, some people can, you know, can party and can hang out.

[Chad Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Come in at two or three in the morning, get. Get two or three hours sleep and function just fine.

[Chad Johnson]

Just fine.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That wasn't what I could do.

[Chad Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I need to be sleep by 10, 10:30. I mean, it is what it is. And some guys can hang out and drink and come in. And you thought they got to bed at 7:30 and they didn't get. And they might have not got to bed at 7:30 that morning.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, that's. That's the big boys.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, but that's. But who knows? Aaron said. And we're just taking him at his word. If Terry got to know him on a deeper, deeper level, gave him a chance, who knows, they might hit it off. He might actually like me.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because I do think Aaron is a deep thinker. I think sometimes he does overthink things. But hey, man, the old man Ocho, you know how it is, man. Them old. When them old people get set, they sit in their ways. Oh, y'. All. Ain't no telling.

[Chad Johnson]

They're not changing, they're not evolving. They think everything works based on how they had success. Well, it worked for me. It should work for you. So you should be doing it this specific way.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep.

[Chad Johnson]

They not evolving. They nothing. They, they. They're not good with technology.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nope.

[Chad Johnson]

The whole nine yards.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's hard when you only looking through your lens.

[Chad Johnson]

That's a good one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

See, Terry only sees things through his lens. And so it's tough. It's tough, Ocho, where you've criticized somebody and all of a sudden they come play for the organization that you played for. Now, what works in Terry's favor is that Terry is not really around, right? He's not like, rest his soul, Franco used to be around all the time. Mel Blunt is around all the time. Terry, Terry works Sunday. Terry is not around.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And unless Fox have the super bowl, he's not going to be around, right? So like I said, I, I've been around. Terry, you know, worked at that. Worked at Fox for years. And, and, and, and, and, and met Terry. He's a, He's a country, He's a country guy that I think. What does he have now? He used to have cattle. I think he got horses now.

[Chad Johnson]

And, you know, he gonna tell it like it is, no matter who it is too, huh? Hey, you gonna. He gonna tell you just like I almost said the R word. He gonna get to you raw. Pause.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, he is. And so you know, his family, you. Like I said, I know in the beginning, but if I'm not mistaken, I think Terry has. I think he raises quarter horses now. I know one point in time he had cattle, he had beef cattle. He was in the cattle business. I don't know if he still has it. He had, you know, big ranch, you know, he had, you know, probably, I don't know.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, 510000 acres, but you ever, you ever rolled quarter horse before?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, man, we had a pony growing up. We had a pony named Ringo. I had a cousin had a, A horse named lady who was an Appaloosa, you know, white with the black spots on them.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But.

[Chad Johnson]

Nah, nah, you know, I, I ride horses. You know, I'm out there in Davey, out there in Miami. My ride horses consistently when I, when I have time, obviously, right? I got. Damn quarter horse, man. They, they ride, they ride like real. You can feel every goddamn thing. It's like move or nothing, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They, they, they, they. Look at, look, he looking to run, Ocho. He ain't looking for you to ride. You, you, you. If you want something to ride or, or you want something to ride silly to ride or, or to work, you need to get a saddle horse. You need. You, you need to get a horse. That's, that's specific. What, what does the th meant to do? Th meant to run Quarter horse meant to run.

[Chad Johnson]

The running is fine. It's just the ride is rough.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson]

I can't remember Filipino. I can't remember the name of the kind of horses they have in the Dominican Republic. They're not that big, but unk. It feel like you're riding on clouds. They going full speed. It feel like you. I know it's, it's so smooth and so easy to, to catch a rhythm. Them goddamn quarter horses, man.

[Sarah Spain]

You.

[Chad Johnson]

Every goddamn. Even if you try, you know, I've been riding for years now, I can't catch.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, you try to go with it. It's still rough.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. I can't remember the kind of horses they have in the Dominican Republic. Starts with a P. Philip something.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Might have been a Filipino.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Felician. Nah, I mean, I, I just like, you know, just all. Just looking at the horse, the muscular structure, and you looking at an animal that's a thousand pounds. That ankle bone is the size of a human. And that's why they have so much, so many leg problems. A horse. You look, you look at a horse, an animal that's a thousand pounds and his ankles are not much bigger than a human. That's why they break so easy.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's, you know, that's why, that's why you have the problem that you have. And you know, a lot of times what they do when you break it, you, you know, you put him down because you're asking him to try to put that weight to redistribute that weight is. It's sad. That's what it is. But. No, but I. Look, I wish, you know, Terry and, and, and, and Aaron can get somewhere and, and, and the conversation, we never hear about it. We never hear about it because I don't think we need to hear about it. I don't think we need to know about it. But I think, you know, there are some things that, you know, Terry would probably want to share with Aaron and Aaron would want to share with Terry, and they could, they could move the ball forward. But, but that's something that we shouldn't. We, we don't have to know. No.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, I'm sure, Listen, I'm sure Aaron's gonna find a way to get it, to have a conversation with him as for his number, or Terry gonna find a way to reach, reach out to him. And just because you're playing for my organization. I didn't mean what I said like that, but they, they're going to talk. And you know, Aaron Rodgers, he shares everything, right? There's everything. So at some point during the season, it's going to come out that we had a conversation. If he's not well, Terry's still gonna let him. Let his ass have it on TV for sure.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And also, Terry doesn't live in Pittsburgh. I think Terry lives in Oklahoma, near the Texas board or something like that. So he's not like one of these, his great players for team players that live in the city in which they played a lot of time. You know, players that, that were great, they still live there because, you know, Ocho, I can, I can cash in, you know, autograph signing and appearances and speaking engagements and things of that nature. The team, you know, team activities, stuff like that. They can take advantage of that. But Terry, Terry left. I don't think Terry. Terry only lived in Pittsburgh probably during the season and once the season was over, Terry took off.

[Chad Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Darius Slay says A.J. brown is the best receiver in the NFL. He went on Richard Sherman's podcast to explain why. Let's take a listen to what he had to say. Ojo.

[Chad Johnson]

Everybody on that list from top four is mostly schemed open for me as a.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This is a db.

[Chad Johnson]

I done seen Chase line up in the backfield. I see Justin L. Up in the backfield. I seen Tyreek be getting the three point sands by the damn tackle guard and be motioned across there. All I see is AJ Doing is line up at X. Come see about me if you want to see about me. I'm over here. You know where I'm at. I'm not gonna go in this backfield. I'm not motion out of there and getting and get isolated on the linebacker. None of that. I'm coming to see your best dude. To make your best dude look like that's your worst dude. He don't run from no smoke. So him at people having him at five and then people want to talk about the quarterback play. All these guys got like real deal, like professional, like pro pro type of quarterbacks. They always say hurts this and hurts that out of all of them when it come down to his passing. But like I say, hurts. Throw the best deep ball. And guess what? AJ Brown most likely the best at catching that D ball. I like that. I like. I like what he said. I like what he said. We don't have.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I disagree with him.

[Chad Johnson]

Which part? Talk to me. I'm gonna let you go first.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Chase ain't no scheme guy.

[Chad Johnson]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Justin Jefferson ain't no scheme guy. Tyreek ain't no scheme guy.

[Chad Johnson]

Absolutely not.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because their guy. Because their OCs are creative.

[Chad Johnson]

Bingo. I'm glad you said it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm glad it ain't my fault that, that, that, that AJ doesn't have a creative oc.

[Chad Johnson]

But he doesn't have.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't. You don't get to win the triple crown and be a Scheme. You don't have 1800 receiving yards in scheme. You that guy?

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You that guy?

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And when you that guy, you're that guy.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah. I'm. I. I disagree.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And I'm not saying that AJ Isn't. Isn't. Isn't a. A good, great receiver. However you want to. However you want to categorize him. But I disagree with Slay on that part. That Chase and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, And Jetta and. And Reek are sk. They're not. Yeah, they're not.

[Chad Johnson]

I disagree as well. What Darius has to understand is when you have those players that are in your top five at, at the receiver position, A.J. brown is in a position where they have so many other weapons, where you don't have to be creative over there because you have a skilled player in A.J. brown. That is no different. Chat. Listen to me closely. I'm not saying A.J. brown is Marvin Harrison. When Marvin Harrison lined up, what side he was gonna be on?

[Shannon Sharpe]

He's on the right.

[Chad Johnson]

He's on the right. He ain't going nowhere. AJ Brown just happened to have that same skill set, that same dog in him and that DNA, DNA in him where he knows he can line up and he can get out. I call it getting out the mud. You call the play. The officer coordinator don't got to worry about you. I just know Jalen Hurst could be blindfolded. He call a play, slant route, curl out, whatever it may be, and he knows exactly where A.J. brown will be at and he can get it out the mud. When it comes to Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, and some of these other receivers, sometimes you have to get creative in order to get them the ball. Why? Because they're going to roll covers to him every time. If you keep them in the. Every time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

You can't do that over there in Philly because you got that gangster in the back in the backfield. Well, you got to drop that fucking safety down in the box, right? But Justin Jefferson, you can line him up on the left side or the right side and say, we need you to get open the rest of the game. You could do like that, too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. My job as the OC Ocho is to not let your job be easy. Cause if I just line him up there, I'm making your job easy.

[Chad Johnson]

Easy?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Roll the coverage, find out where he.

[Chad Johnson]

Is, and just roll to him. That's it. Period.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm gonna make you fire my guy. But there are guys you can scheme and you still can't get them Open. No, Chase. Chase him, Jetta him. That's why on most everybody's list, when you see receivers come out, they're one two.

[Chad Johnson]

It's the same ones.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's one, two.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And even though Tariq Reek had a bad year and that's. And look. And I'm not saying. Cause I like aj. AJ Is a big, physical receiver. He's gonna catch the ball in traffic. He's tremendous. Run after the catch. He is. He can catch the deep ball. And sometimes he gets frustrated because he's not involved as soon as he thinks he should be right or as much as he should be. And he have lapses sometimes, but he's phenomenal. But that's why I disagree with Slay. I get what he's saying. He's like, look, the guy just lines up on one side and. And he said, okay, come see me.

[Chad Johnson]

But see. Oh, yeah, go ahead.

[Shannon Sharpe]

With that being said, even if Chase is not lined up on the same side, he still say, you still got to come see me. Whether I'm in the slot, whether I'm on the right, whether I'm on the left, you still got to deal with me.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah. And there. There are few players like that, too. There are a few players. If we were just playing basic football and saying, okay, we breaking the huddle, eye formation, and you just line up on the same side every single time, and the defense knows exactly where you're going to be. There are a few players, maybe, maybe eight or seven of them, that can say, you know what? I'm leaving you on that island, and you just going to have to get open.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Chad Johnson]

That can actually do it. And it. It makes the offensive coordinating job easy. When you have those type of players, it ain't that many of them at receiver. Everyone else, you have to condense splits. You have to put them in motion. You have to do all these things to get them open. Everybody can't get out there and just get out, get out, get it out. The muscle, it ain't right. It's very, very difficult.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It is. But y' all doing them a disservice because if. If everybody knows where he is. Look here. They ran stunts with lt. They ran stunts with Reggie and Bruce. That don't mean they couldn't do it. But I'm not trying to just, hey, let's try to make the job easier. So like I said, I. I get what Slay is trying to say. He's like, look, just imagine. Had if they moved him around, just imagine, you know, instead of just lining up as the X he lined up. You know, they put him in the slot and they did different things with him. They stacked him so forth and so on. Okay, fine. But Jamar Chase is not a scheme receiver. Neither is Jetta, neither is Tyreek. Now, I don't know the other. Other guys that within the top, I think they had aj So I don't know if it was Puka or if it was Nico Cop. Yeah. CD Lamb. CD is. Is mainly plays in the slot. He can go outside, but he's mainly in the slot.

[Chad Johnson]

The funny thing about those top five you just named is you could put. You could. You could switch the team. You could put AJ In Cincinnati, you could put Chase and Philly. I can't. I can't hear you. Give me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I hear you.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, there you go. You back, you back. I'm blurry. You can see me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I'm looking at me. Did my life. Yeah, yeah. Okay, now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

You good? Yeah. I say all those, all those players we talking about like they interchangeable. You can put them on any team and they're going to be productive.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson]

Where they at? They're going to be productive. No matter where you at, you can put Tyreek.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

All.

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[Chad Johnson]

Tyreek in Tyreek and Miami, Tyreek in Cincinnati, Tyreek and Dallas or just put in in. They all gonna be able to get open. All of them. Now once you get out that top seven or eight or ten.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Now we need to look.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We interchange. Not. Not. Look. I think the thing is, is that, you know, Chase was 1. JJ, Jetta was 2. Reek was 3. CD was 4. AJ was 5.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Almond Ross, St. Brown, Malik. Neighbors, boys.

[Chad Johnson]

But them boys, Nasty boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. I think Nico Collins cracked the top 10.

[Chad Johnson]

Nasty.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Mike Evans. Oh, no. Garrett. Yeah. Nico Eight. Mike Evans. And Garrett Wilson.

[Chad Johnson]

Garrett Wilson. Another one. Get you, get you, get you out. The muscle can line up and get. It's only. No, it's so funny. It's only a few of them. As many receivers is as there are in the NFL, it's only a few. I'm leaving you out here. I call it. I call the receivers that the offensive coordinator don't have to worry about. You make my job easy because I can do everything. I can do more with my offense because I know you can take care of your business, right? I ain't got to worry about you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. I think the thing is that when you leave a receiver in one position now, you let them set their defense and they can like. Okay, do we don't roll the coverage here? No. Find me, catch me if you can find me. I'm playing hide and seek.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm in the slot. I might motion out of the backfield. I might mount up at Z. I might line up at X. Ain't no telling. Hey, hey. The slot, the wing, whatever, you know.

[Chad Johnson]

You know what? You know, it's a. A good point too what Darius Slay just said. Now you get a better understanding of why AJ was frustrated last year because.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, well, I knew why.

[Chad Johnson]

There was no creativity. No, there was no creativity. You leaving me on one side and allowing the defense to dictate what we want to do. Why? Because they allow Jaylen Hurst to play in the play into the confines of that offense and not do anything extra outside of that. Where if they, if they're gonna let you catch the ball, it got to be one on one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, and, and, and yeah, I, I knew why. Everybody knew why. And they tried to dress it up. Jalen Hurst was throwing for 120 yards.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You're not gonna win the championship with that. And you, you. And he got better and better. And you see, go look at his playoff numbers. They got better and better. And in the super bowl he was sensational. Every time he got one on one. He made him play for every. He made him play for. Every time they gave him one on one. He made him pay because Spags were not gonna. He was not going to let Saquon beat him. Yeah, he neutralized Saquon, but in the process of that, he left his corners on an island.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah. You saw what happened. As a matter of fact, I'm. Let me. I'm just throw this out there too. My honorable mentions as well. They've given you a small sample size on what they can do when Tank Tail come. When Tank Dale comes back and he's healthy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he didn't come back this year. I don't think he come back this year. 26.

[Chad Johnson]

My young bull over there in Baltimore is. They flowers.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They flowers.

[Chad Johnson]

That's a. That's another one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Brian Thomas Jr. Should have been on the mentioned list.

[Chad Johnson]

Brian Thomas Jr. Another one. We said Malik neighbors, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Well, he on the list?

[Chad Johnson]

Oh yeah. Okay. Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he's number seven.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. I don't have all the NFL teams in front of me. I'm just going off the top of my head based on. On skill set.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, you still got dk. You got George Pickens, you got Higgins.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, T. Yeah, yeah. You got Judy, you know, Judy belonging that conversation.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So yeah, let's see. I mean if you think about the only really. I mean, Almond Rod and, And CD Were really the only. The only slots.

[Chad Johnson]

Right. See, that's. That's. That's what I don't like. The. The number. The number. The number of people that belong in the conversation. Some people get left out that are just as consistent as Amar Ross St. Brown or CD Lamb. Lambie, stay open.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think you're gonna have a big year.

[Chad Johnson]

They flowers. He stay open in that slot. I mean but that's another conversation for another day.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I mean, look, when you have a top 10, obviously you gotta leave somebody out because you only got 10 slots. Yeah, they like, give me 10 best rappers. Well, somebody gonna get left out because there's a thousand rappers, past and present. You go, okay, give me your ten best R B singers. Well, you're gonna leave somebody out if you go, okay, give me your 50 best, you know, women R B singers. Somebody's gonna get left out.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You only got 10 slots, so. And you have to be okay, man. You know, I. Bro. It is what it is. And people got to understand that that doesn't mean. And you might make somebody else's list and not, you know, not someone else. Ocho. We have more info coming out on Christian Wilkins. Adam Schefter shares was an awkward kiss incident between Christian Wilkins and a Raiders teammate. Wilkins kissed a fellow player on the head, and the teammate took offense to it. The incident happened inside the team meeting room. Report says the interaction was playful, but the teammate didn't see it that way. Shifter adds, the incident was not the sole reason Wilkins was cut. Is the real Ocho. When? When. Hold on. This is. This is Shefter talking. Yeah, allegedly. This. This was an incident that took place.

[Chad Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When did men start playing like this? Ocho? Forget. Forget. I understand it's 20, 25. It's a different time. And I don't get. I don't care what your letter is in the Alphabet. Be you. I'm cool with it. You be the L, you be the B, you be the T, you be the Q. But plural. Whatever the case may be. Yeah, have at it. When did men in a football bat in a setting like this, when did they start playing like this? Ocho? Was it after I left the game? Was it like last week? A couple of weeks ago? You stayed a little bit. I retired in 04. You retired in 2012 from the NFL, so you stayed a little longer than I did. So when did this start happening? Ocho?

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, I. I don't know. I don't know. I think that's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who plays like that, Ocho.

[Chad Johnson]

I. The people I hang around. Based on where I'm from, I don't see that type activity. I don't see that type of. Listen, we have. Excuse me. We have playful banner, but the playful. Yeah, and we conduct it. It ain't like that. It ain't in that manner. So it's news to me. It's new to me. I don't know. Christian, Wilkinson, Wilkins. I don't know him personally, you know, I, I, I know of him, you know, as a, a fun, energetic type of player. He's done some funny things, you know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, they got that picture when they, I think there's a national championship game of one game and the guys on the ground.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. It's just.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah. I'm like, oh, bro, guys don't play. Look, maybe, maybe, maybe they do now. I shouldn't say. I'm just from an era, right. Guys didn't play like that. And yeah, look, yeah, we horse play. We might nail somebody locker short shut. We might put powder or water in your shoulder pads and when you grab them, it come down on top of you. Do guys horse play around like that? Yes. Do we soak the rookies clothes, put them in the cold tub and then put them in the freezer? Yes. We've seen guys, you know, basketball players put popcorn in the guy's car. We've seen stuff like that, Ocho. Not like. And I've seen some stuff in the locker room now. I've seen some guys play that even I was like, y' all nasty. That grow. I a.

[Chad Johnson]

But not, not today, Magnitude.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Not no, not no. Not no. Not no. Not no kissing on. Not even kissing on the forehead. Not even. No. No joking manner.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, I, I don't know. I, it's hard to say. I'm not in the locker room. I wasn't actually there. And obviously Sheft did his best job in, in describing what happened and obviously knowing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Think about it. Oo oo Remember we talked about it. Of all the things they could have said, why did they say this now? They could have said anything. He stole somebody car. He stole $1,500 from somebody. He forged a check of all the things they could have tagged the young man with. Allegedly. They put this.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, I mean, listen, alleged. That's that actually what happened. You know, it had to come from somewhere. So that means that's exactly what happened. Where there's smoke, there's fire.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Chad Johnson]

Where there's smoke, there's fire. So it is what it is. Whoever the player was, they took offense to it. Maybe they got in a little scuffle, maybe it caused the issue and maybe that was just the icing on the cake for them to release him based on the other issues and other incidents about him missing games last year and then not doing what's required to make sure he gets on the field in a time manner this year. Fed up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If, if I'm not mistaken, Ocho, they said this Incident happened earlier, so I don't know if it happened, say, in the off season. It happened at some point in time during the season.

[Chad Johnson]

Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Obviously, there was. There was a. A diff. A fracturing. A fracturing where they like, bro, you need the surgery. He says, no. It seems like he said, no. Maybe they wanted a second opinion. He didn't want to get a second opinion. Because here's the thing. You could have. You could like, okay, you got a torn acl and doctor said, well, you need to get this. So he's like, no, I'm gonna let it heal on its own. You, You. You can do that. I wouldn't advise it, but you can do it. They tell you to go get a second opinion, Ocho. You can do that. And both doctors say the same thing. You say, no, I'm good. I wouldn't advise it, but you can do that. I, I, I don't. I don't get why he wasn't considering he had guaranteed money. He had $35 million coming to him. That was guaranteed. So he was at. I could see Ocho, if I didn't have guaranteed money coming in, if there was a situation like, nah, bro, I need to get on the field. But he got guaranteed money. And so they say, nah, it's not healing like it's supposed to. You need to have another surgery.

[Chad Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I just don't. I don't get that. That's what's being reported. Now. We don't know what's true or not, but look, there's. The truth is somewhere in between this box. Yeah, between the kiss on the forehead, the second opinion. They want him to have. They wanted to have surgery again. Something. The truth is somewhere in here, Ocho. We just don't know where it's at, but we think the truth is somewhere in this box.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, listen, what you can do is you can hear the situations, right? And it's like. Like having a puzzle piece, all right? We got. We got good pieces to the puzzle, and you can just fill out the rest of the puzzle based on the actions that have happened and what you hear. So you missed games last year, okay?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Well, I think you only played five games, Ocho. I think he got hurt after the fifth game.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay, well, listen, all right, we're going into a new season. You still not healthy, right? And got a second opinion. Maybe your second opinion said, you know what? You need to just relax and let it heal on its own. Maybe the team said, well, you need to get surgery. So again, now we go into another Season. You missed so many games last year. Now the season rolling around again, still not healthy. You're not on the field. They see you on. On camera, dancing around, you know, having fun and. And doing. Doing stuff that's. That's not for one, helping the team. Two, that's not helping yourself. And three, what we're paying you millions of dollars to do, you're not earning that. You're not earning that. You're not going to do that on our time or our clock.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Chad Johnson]

And so they made a business decision.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, I agree. I'm looking at like. Like I said, if he's in the last year of his contract, he doesn't have this guaranteed money. And he thinks like, hey, I get it. I. I totally get it. But he got 30. He got. He got what he had already got, like 49 million. He got another seven coming this year. And then guess what, Ocho, he got another 25 coming. Another 25, 27 coming the following year.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So he's protected. That's why. That's why guys want these guaranteed contracts, Ocho. So I can be protected not just for one year, but for multiple years. So I. I get it. But if the report is what Sheft is saying is true.

[Chad Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I just don't know when this started taking place, guys. Like I said. Hey, look. Oh. Like I said, Ocho, we. Hey, look. I done put. I done put more. I done gone through so many tubes of toothpaste, putting toothpaste on a guy's door in training camp, because I know all he gonna do is just walk out the door and pull it shut. He ain't gonna look back at it. He just gonna grab it and got him. I don't pour so much alcohol and lit it on fire and up under the door. Yeah, we play pranks like that, but we know. Look, you ain't don't touch a man's. You know, boy, I saw somebody almost got the brakes beat off him. He took his hair. He took his brush. Took dude brush and combed his pubic. Bust his pubic hair with it with his brush and put it back. Okay, so you see, people don't play now. Yeah, man, ain't no. It ain't nothing but a brush. It ain't no. Hey, it ain't that serious. Yeah, people don't play the way you play. Everybody don't play like that.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you. And you need to understand that, right? Cause you dealing with. Look, I said, I just don't. I don't get it. I just, like, I Said I grew up at a time where men, men didn't play. Men rarely didn't play at all. I remember my grandfather them telling no jokes like I said. And we told a story of my brother. I just sat down with him about. Somebody made a joke about my grandfather's teeth as my grandfather was driving off. Yeah, he had his teeth, he had his false teeth. They were sitting on the dash and got a Mr. Barney, don't let, don't let your teeth for a, a runaway. And my grandfather put that car in reverse, stopped that car and got out. Said, don't play. Say I'm old enough to be your dad. He said, don't play with me. He said I'm a grown ass man. He said, find somebody to play with. And I'm not him, man. Probably about 5C here before he spoke my grandpa. Because if, you know, back all people used to go get the, the gas station, get that full service ocho.

[Chad Johnson]

Yes sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know what I'm saying? They get a puppy. Oh yeah. Hey. Cause you did the windows and you know what I'm saying? Don't show. You did the window, got the windows all nights.

[Chad Johnson]

And you know, they still do that, they still do that in Jersey, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, they do that.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, they do that in Jersey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, man. And so I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm surprised, I'm really surprised that in, in a today's society that allegedly what Christian Wilkins did. I mean, because he, like I said, there are some things that like, and, and, and photos that surface and I don't know, I, it might be AI. It's hard to say. Hell, I, I done got the way. I don't really believe nothing on the Internet anymore because I don't even know if, if it's real. Oo if it's AI right, because AI have, have it, you know, got Alligator riding a horse. So, so I, I, I don't even know what to believe anymore. Oo, but I'm just saying, guys, stop playing so much. All these people in pranks and all this stuff. And you see people walking up and they trying to prank somebody and they doing all this stuff. Yeah, yeah, Come on, come on now you go, you, you, you gonna get yourself hurt.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And the first thing somebody, family gonna say, they didn't have to do him like that. Or they didn't have to do, or do her like that. No, you didn't have to play like that. Yeah, people everybody don't play the same. Somebody gonna let y' all have it. So Just. Just stop. Just stop. Like. Like you said, Ocho, that's a total stranger. You don't know them from Adam. And I know some. I know I got great friends. But we know how to play and we know what to say when we play. You know, certain things. There's certain things that's off limits. And you understand that. You always told a stranger you did it with.

[Chad Johnson]

You always know what line not to cross, you know your friends, you always know what, what, what can get that. What can. What buttons to push, you know what buttons not to push, you know what line not to cross. And there's. There's great understanding with that when it's someone that you've been friends with for a very long time now, when it's somebody new, like you're on a new team, a teammate that you don't know that well outside of that building, there's certain things you can't do. You can't conduct yourself, you know, the way you conduct yourself with somebody known 20, 20, 25 years.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's why you go in a new environment, you sit back and you observe. Yeah, okay, I can joke with him. Can't joke with him. Or I can say something like this to him. Yeah, can't say that to him.

[Chad Johnson]

You got to read the room.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

While you observe, give yourself a month or two, three months, excuse me, to observe and see who you can and can't play with. Yeah. Who you can talk to, who you can make joke with, who you could do certain things too. You just need to be observant cuz you being a locker room, because you got a lot of different backgrounds on your people come from a lot of different areas. I mean the social, economic background, the different religions, the different ideology, how somebody was raised and you don't know what the trigger is. You just don't want to be the one to pull it.

[Chad Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So I, I'm sorry, the young man, but hopefully they get this resolved because he's extremely talented. He can play. Oh yeah, he's going to the Pro Bowl. He can play. Yeah, he can rush the pass. He's tremendous against the run. I, I, it seems to me that he really enjoys the game. Sometimes I think he enjoys it too much, but this I just, like I said, we don't know. Shifter's reporting that this incident did happen, but he's saying that's not the, that's not the sole reason of why they chose to go in this direction. Yeah, we don't know. Like I said, that's what Sheft is being reported. We're reporting, basically we're commenting on what Shefter's reporting. What we do know is that he's been released. And they're basically saying, we ain't paying you. He filed a grievance with the NFLPA trying to get the guaranteed money that he believes he's owed. We'll see how it plays out. Adam Shafter says Terry McLaurin is seeking a contract greater than that of DK Metcalfe, the one that he received from the Steelers. Here's what Adam Schefter had to say, I would say DK was in the same draft class as Terry McLaurin. He got about 33 million per year. I wouldn't think that Terry's willing to take less than that. I think he wants considerably more than that. Washington, they're not there right now. They love the value Terry McLaurin, but they love the value in him at a different price. McClorying is in the final year of his current contract, which he's due to make a base salary of 15.5 million and carry a cap it of 25 million.

[Chad Johnson]

You just said they value McLaren and what he brings to the team, but not at that price.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Uhhuh.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, they got to find a happy medium. They got to have a happy medium because all you got to do is pull up the numbers. I don't have the numbers in front of me. I'm. I'm not sure What. What. What DK Met has done the past three, four years. I'm not sure what. Well, I know Terry McLaren. He's had a thousand yards every year every.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But here. Oo. How many times you heard somebody say, I like it, but I don't like it at that price?

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, all the time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

See, that's the thing. Hey, they like Terry. They don't like Terry at that price because he said sheft. If what Chef is saying is true, he wants to be north of 3330. So now that's CD. CDs at 34. Jetta is at 35. Now chase, pole, vault, everybody, and put it at 40. So look. And he's looking at. Hold on. I'm signing his contract. Two years.

[Chad Johnson]

Turn on the effing film. That. That's all I need to see. Turn on the film. And I wish. I wish Jaden Daniels had the kind of leverage and power, which I think he does. But as a rookie, I don't think he wants to. To push that button. Joe Burrow went upstairs and Mike Brown say, boss man, we need to get uno and we need to get five done. We need. I. I don't know how you gonna do it or what you need to do. I'm not sure what the book.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you got to get some years on this belt before you get that kind of cache open.

[Chad Johnson]

You know, you don't have that kind of food.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, that's a. That's a Joe Burrow, Josh Allen Lamar, homeboy, right?

[Chad Johnson]

But I. I wish.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But he will. He will have that kind of. He will. He will wear that kind of hammer.

[Chad Johnson]

I Think Jayden Daniels understands the importance of having his number one target?

[Shannon Sharpe]

For sure.

[Chad Johnson]

I think the team, the owners, they all understand that. You know, we talk about. We talk about numbers. Find a number that's good. That's not insulting. He's not asking to be the highest paid. He said, put me in the. Put me in the ballpark and where I belong and let me know you value me. That's all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, I mean. Well, Shefter reported that he want to be valued more than what. What Minnesota value? Jenna, I want more than CD.

[Chad Johnson]

You want more than Jetta?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Here's the thing. If DK is at 33, the next is 34. CD, the next is 35. Jenna. So if he don't work 33, what? He won't.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, 15 to 33 is. Is.

[Megan Rapinoe]

Is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, that's a big jump, a huge jump.

[Chad Johnson]

Are you saying is he trying to reset the mark? Not reset the market, but be second high, second.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't. I don't. I don't know what he trying to do. I'm just saying what she said. She says D. They were in the same draft class. I think Terry McL and DK were in the same draft class. DK got 33. I wouldn't think that Terry is willing to take less than that. I think he wants considerably more than that. So you talking about 36, 37.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, hey, that's gonna be tough.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, listen, don't get me in here lying.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, that. That's gonna be. That's gonna be tough. That's gonna be tough. I understand it. You listen, you got to fight for what. You got to fight for what you want because you only get. Hey, listen, you're only gonna have this kind of leverage one time. Yeah, one time. So you got to get it right. Yeah, you got to get it right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So the question is, like you said, we don't. I mean, look, I. I don't know what he's asking for. Shifter, maybe. Hey, maybe Shefter talked to his agent. I don't know.

[Chad Johnson]

This is Chef like shams and shams and woes. He ain't wrong. It's coming from somewhere.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hell, yeah, it absolutely is. But like I said, I like it. I don't like it at that price.

[Chad Johnson]

Right, right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know I'm saying. Hey, hey, hey, Ocho. I might like chrome hard jeans. I don't like them at that price.

[Chad Johnson]

I love Scary Terry, man. I hope. I hope we get what he deserves. But you got to be. You got to be willing to fight, boy. Especially what you're asking for if. If what Adam Scheft is reporting is correct, you got to be willing to fight. You're gonna have to hold your ground, because one thing they will use against you, you got that C on your chest. You know, they will use your love for the game and use it against you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I know firsthand.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I know firsthand how that goes. Ojo.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, we gonna. We gonna stall him out. He gonna fold at some point.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. He loved the game. He loved being around. He loved being around the team. He love the guys, you know? The Titans have officially released trailing Burks, so let's revisit the night. The 2022 trade. The Titans traded A.J. brown for the draft rights. The Trilling Burks, Roger McCrary, Nicholas Petit Furie, and Kyle Phillips.

[Chad Johnson]

Man, I. I saw the.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't. I don't know. I don't know what Tennessee was thinking. I still don't know. So, okay, you saved money. You. You didn't want to pay. You didn't want to make. You didn't want to pay A.J. brown what he. What the value.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What he had earned. Okay. You saved money. What has it gotten you?

[Chad Johnson]

They thought Trey and Burks was the answer.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They did, because they say he's the same type of guy. You look at him, he's big, he's physical. Bro. If y' all watched him and y' all watch A.J. brown, they not. They not the same. They not. But sometimes you get. You get caught up. You get mad at somebody and you convince yourself somebody is better. They got mad at AJ because he wanted what was rightfully he felt he had earned. And it's like, nah, we gonna trade you. You should have paid him just for dabbing the deal with the quarterbacks that y' all had. That's what you should have paid him. Just on that alone.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Listen, you know, year three training. Burks is going into his third year this year. Yeah. Year three is normally the year that lets people know it. Should make it a break a year. Yeah, maybe. Maybe. This might have been the year he figures it out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, he had broke his collarbone, so he was gonna be out for like, six to eight weeks.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, that's. That's. That's messed up. The business is dirty, boy. The business is dirty. Especially when the small sample size of what you've been able to show us so far, it's not enough for us to keep you around to allow that collarbone to heal.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No. Absolutely not.

[Chad Johnson]

Is. Players like that. That I wish. I wish I had the opportunity to work with in off season.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oo. He had 59 catches, 699 yards and one touchdown for a career.

[Chad Johnson]

Wait, that's a career?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep. Three seasons.

[Chad Johnson]

You sure that's right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, that what he say? He had 350. He had. Had played three seasons. He had 53 catches, 699 yards, two touchdowns in his NFL career. Oh, in 2022, he played 11 games. He had 33 receptions for 444 yards and 2023. He played 11 games. He had 20 receptions. He had 255 yards. In 2024, he played five games. Zero receptions, zero yards. Okay.

[Chad Johnson]

He must have been. He must have been hurt and then just broke his collarbone. Yeah, Dan, that's tough. Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I think it's fair to say the Eagles won that trade.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, you know, I. I hope he.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Was probably like, hey, y' all got any other players y' all want to get rid of over there?

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, I hope. I hope you get another opportunity when he gets.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I think. Oh, he a first round pick. Too young, so he'll get another opportunity.

[Chad Johnson]

Young.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I Wonder what his. 40 times. What do you run the 40 in?

[Chad Johnson]

He's the first round pick. Hell, he got. He had to run fast. He ain't run slow because if he ran slow, there's no way. Listen, his college.

[Shannon Sharpe]

455.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, hell, I ran 4 5, but I played. I played 4 3. There's a difference. The game ain't played in a straight line.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And he. Look, they keep. See, they thought he was gonna be A.J. brown. A.J. brown is a different type of receiver. A.J. was ran. He ran 449.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, but, hey, they play so much faster than that. 40 time, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

For sure. Yeah. 6, 1, 2, 26.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, man. Oh, buddy. Big bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Damn. 226.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You can't look at him and tell.

[Chad Johnson]

I mean, he about my size. Jesus.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you could. Yeah, he's. He's a. He's a. He's a physical receiver. He after the catch. Now he catch the deep ball, but he wants the ball in his hands.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He want the ball in his hand. Okay, tackle me. Yeah, you faster than me. Okay, let me see how many times you want to tackle me, though, okay? Yeah, okay. You right. I can't run. Yes, yes, yes. All right, that's crazy, but I guarantee you after the fourth time, you ain't want to tackle me. Hey, like two times, I'm gonna still farm you the second. The third time, I'll put my helmet in your. I'm Gonna hit my helmet right in your chest.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. You see what Marshawn Lynn say?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

He hits you in your face over.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And over and over. Jerry Jones says he just can't help himself today. He said last year's chance for CD Labs contract extension was much louder than yesterday's chant for Micah. Jared said, man, that was a little faint noise compared to the way they were hollering last year. Paid lamb. Whoever's not in, you can count on a few hollering that. But it was big and loud last year. Chance for lamb.

[Chad Johnson]

I don't know. I don't. I don't know. Listen, I. I told you what I think Jerry's doing. I told you what I think he's doing. He's perfect. Regulars, every time. He's not pranking us, but every time it's time for a player to get paid, even though he has to pay them top dollar, I think he purposely waits to the last, to the last minute for a reason he's doing on purpose. So the attention can always be on the Cowboys. So the attention can always be on. Be on him. Let's say. What if he did pay Michael Parsons already? What would be the conversation? What would be the conversation right now, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, that. What you gonna do with that?

[Chad Johnson]

What do you mean? That. That is scheduled to make what, 60, 61, 62, something like that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Billion dollars. Hey, is it going to extend him?

[Chad Johnson]

Extend him? He just signed it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But he got two years. He got another year left on that already. Yeah, that. That. That do.

[Chad Johnson]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, that's what I say, Ocho. Hey, that's what I say. These years go by fast. You look up. I mean, hey, I just remember celebrating the 50th birthday. Now I'm closer to 60 than I am 50. And that's the thing you look up, man. Man, this time ain't waiting on nobody, Ocho.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Oh, it a. It ain't one thing and one thing it would never do. It would never. It would never. Hey, what. Hey, say that. You remember that quote you said about why you wear a watch? You know? Remember that quote? I gotta read it out. I ain't got my paddle. I will watch. Why?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, hey. How valuable my time is not to tell time. Yeah. That guy. After this year, that could have two years left.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay, okay, man, that. That, that killing them, boy. That killing them. One hell of a team offense.

[Shannon Sharpe]

80 million dollar signing bonus. 231 million in guaranteed money.

[Chad Johnson]

That's what he got. That would that guy go ahead, brother. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Mad at him.

[Chad Johnson]

At all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, you know how much a man got to pay? How much a man got to be worth to pay you? 230 and guarantee it.

[Chad Johnson]

Come on now. Come on now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, to the man, the man that got a hundred million dollar home. How much money you think he actually got?

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