Nightcap Draft Recap - Part 1: Shedeur Sanders Prank Called + Abdul Carter Responds to Unc & Ocho

Summary

Club Shay Shay: Nightcap Draft Recap - Part 1: Shedeur Sanders Prank Call + Abdul Carter Responds to UNC & Ocho

Episode Information:

• Title: Nightcap Draft Recap - Part 1: Shedeur Sanders Prank Called + Abdul Carter Responds to UNC & Ocho
• Release Date: April 29, 2025
• Hosts: Chad Johnson, Greg Jennings, Ocho Cinco
• Description: NFL legend Shannon Sharpe hosts a dynamic discussion with top athletes and influencers, delving into their achievements, challenges, and everything in between.

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1. Introduction to the Prank Call Incident

The episode kicks off with Ocho Cinco addressing a recent controversy involving Jack Ulbricht, the 21-year-old son of the Atlanta Falcons' Defensive Coordinator, Jeff Ulbricht. Earlier in the week, Jack inadvertently accessed Shedeur Sanders' contact information from an iPad at his parents' home and proceeded to make a prank call to Sanders.

Ocho Cinco explains:

"The Falcons put out a statement this morning saying... Jack Ulbricht... unintentionally came across the draft contact phone number for Shedeur Sanders... and later conducted a prank call." [02:04]

2. The Falcons' Response and Apology

Jack Ulbricht issued a heartfelt apology after the incident, expressing remorse for disrupting what was likely a significant moment in Shedeur Sanders' life. The Falcons organization condemned the behavior and assured that they are reviewing their protocols to prevent future incidents.

Jack's apology included:

"I made a tremendous mistake, Shedeur. What I did was completely inexcusable, embarrassing and shameful. I'm so sorry I took away from your moment." [04:13]

3. Panel Discussion: Punishment and Accountability

The hosts delve into the appropriate response to the incident, debating whether the punishment should fall on Jack or his father, Jeff Ulbricht. Greg Jennings suggests that accountability should primarily target Jeff, given his oversight role.

Greg Jennings states:

"If you're gonna punish him to some extent, it would have to come from the dad." [04:13]

Chad Johnson vehemently argues against punishing Jack directly, emphasizing the broader implications of such actions within the Falcons organization and the pressures of modern social media culture.

Chad Johnson comments:

"This social media has messed us up about life and everything... It's almost like you stealing from your peoples." [05:59]

4. The Impact on Shedeur Sanders' Draft Prospects

The conversation shifts to how the prank call might affect Shedeur Sanders' draft status. There's speculation about whether the Falcons might be attempting to blackball Sanders due to the negative publicity.

Ocho Cinco raises concerns:

"He got the number from an iPad that he shouldn't have been using... It's a black ball thing." [07:29]

However, the panel remains optimistic about Sanders' potential, discussing his talent and the support he's receiving from fans who are pledging to buy his merchandise in solidarity.

Greg Jennings offers a positive outlook:

"I think it will be magical for him. And seeing it as a blessing in disguise, finally being..." [13:02]

5. Jersey Number Legacy: Abdul Carter's Perspective

The discussion transitions to Abdul Carter, who responds to wearing the iconic number 11 jersey previously held by legendary players. The panel explores the weight of legacy and the expectations that come with it.

Abdul Carter shares:

"It's not about the number. It's about the player, the number. Just the legacy. It's iconic." [24:10]

Chad Johnson underscores the significance of maintaining the integrity of such numbers:

"You can't do that... Just go on the one level, do what you did. And get out." [28:53]

6. Comparing Eras: Social Media and Prank Culture

A significant portion of the episode critiques the current generation's obsession with social media and prank culture, contrasting it with the more disciplined approach of past eras.

Chad Johnson laments:

"That's why I like my era. We didn't have all that crap." [08:31]

Ocho Cinco echoes concerns about the negative impact of viral moments on young athletes' reputations and careers.

"In this day and age, everything is about clicks... It's hurting y'all." [08:18]

7. Building Personal Legacies Amidst Challenges

The hosts emphasize the importance of personal accountability and building one's legacy despite external pressures and controversies. They encourage young athletes to focus on their performance and integrity rather than chasing fleeting online fame.

Greg Jennings advises:

"Listen, this is what I do like about Abdul. The confidence I feel... wear that 56 and do it justice." [28:15]

8. Celebrating Legendary Figures and Mentorship

The conversation pays homage to legendary NFL figures like LT (assumed to be Lawrence Taylor) and discusses the mentorship and influence these icons have on current players like Abdul Carter.

Chad Johnson reflects:

"Every time I see him, I'm with him. That's my dude, man. That's the greatest defensive player ever." [26:54]

Ocho Cinco highlights LT's legacy:

"He's the only player in NFL history to make two positions famous." [27:34]

9. Conclusion and Final Thoughts

As the episode wraps up, the panel reinforces the importance of resilience, personal growth, and upholding one's legacy amidst challenges. They remind listeners to stay focused on their goals and not be swayed by external distractions.

Chad Johnson concludes:

"He's gonna show up, and that's what he should do. He should go in there and show up." [23:55]

Greg Jennings adds:

"It's a blessing in disguise. Finally being... his jersey is the number one in Cleveland right now." [21:36]

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Key Takeaways:

• Accountability: The importance of holding the right individuals accountable in organizational mishaps.
• Legacy: Upholding and honoring the legacy associated with iconic jersey numbers and legendary players.
• Social Media Impact: Critique of the modern era's focus on social media and its effects on young athletes.
• Resilience: Encouragement for athletes to maintain focus and build their personal legacies despite external challenges.

Notable Quotes:

• Ocho Cinco: "He made a tremendous mistake... I made a terrible mistake and I messed with that moment." [04:13]
• Chad Johnson: "This social media has messed us up about life and everything... It's almost like you stealing from your peoples." [05:59]
• Abdul Carter: "It's not about the number. It's about the player, the number. Just the legacy. It's iconic." [24:10]
• Greg Jennings: "I think it will be magical for him. And seeing it as a blessing in disguise." [13:02]

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This episode of "Club Shay Shay" provides a deep dive into the complexities of athlete behavior, organizational responsibility, and the pressures of maintaining a legacy in the age of social media. Through candid discussions, the panel offers insights and guidance for both current and aspiring athletes navigating the modern sports landscape.

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The Volume, the Prank the culprit behind the prank called to Jador Sanders has been revealed as Jack Ulbricht, son of Falcons D.C. first. The Falcons put out a statement this morning saying earlier in the week Jack Obreich, the 21 year old son of defensive coordinator Jeff Ulbricht, unintentionally came across the draft contact phone number for Shador Sanders off an output iPad while visiting his parents home and wrote the number down and later conduct a prank call. Jeff Obrich was unaware of the data exposure at any facet of the prank and was made aware of the above only after the fact. Atlanta Falcons do not condone this behavior and send our sincere apologies to Shadow Sanders and his family, who we've been in contact with, to apologize to as well as facilitate an apology directly from Jack to the Sanders family. We have also been in contact with the NFL and will continue to cooperate fully with any inquiries we may receive from the NFL League office. We are thoroughly reviewing all protocols and updating if necessary, to help prevent an incident like this from happening again. Falcons Falcons Jack posted an apology on Friday night. I made a tremendous mistake, Shador. What I did was completely inexcusable, embarrassing and shameful. I'm so sorry I took away from your moment. It was selfish and childish. I could never imagine getting ready to celebrate one of the greatest moments of your life and I made a terrible mistake and I messed with that moment. Thank you for accepting my call earlier today. I hope you can find it in your heart to forgive me. Hadore Sanders Ocho, Is this, is this apology enough or should the Falcons punish. I don't know who. I don't know how they can punish the son. They might punish the dad. Did they get dog the draft? If you were to punish the Falcons, how do you punish them and should. Should they be punished first and if you are going to punish them, what should the punishment be?

[Greg Jennings]

I mean, listen, I say if you're gonna, if you're gonna punish him to some extent, I would say would have to come from the dad. Obviously it was a son. It was a that made the call. Obviously dad. I'm not sure how the son got the number. Who knows. But the punishment should come. Should come with a dad. Maybe. Maybe a fine of some sort. I think draft picks could be a little. A little bit too much because the team itself as a whole shouldn't have to have to suffer for what the sun decided to do. Outside of that, the apology, I mean, at that point, at that point it seems sincere, especially being that it was written from someone else and it's.

[Chad Johnson]

It.

[Greg Jennings]

No, it's a bunch of, you know what. Did he really mean it? No, the fact that he got caught is the only reason he's apologizing.

[Ocho Cinco]

Bro, how you oh, Joe apologize. You came and you let him record you.

[Greg Jennings]

Huh? They not sorry. They know what they were doing. They young. It was a. It was a prank. We're in an era of prank and like you say, everybody, everybody.

[Ocho Cinco]

Don't they play too much?

[Greg Jennings]

Everybody listen.

[Chad Johnson]

They.

[Greg Jennings]

They thought it was a funny moment. They thought it was a funny moment when it really was.

[Ocho Cinco]

Before you go G. Other players also reportedly prank had prank calls. Tyler Warren had a prank. There were several other players. And you see that. Like you said, Ocho, we're in that era. Everything is about a prank. Everybody want to do a. Pull something, want to touch somebody, dump something on the head. Everybody like GP like you've been saying the whole night, everybody don't play how you play now. When somebody fire you up, that, well, he have to do that. Well, you didn't have to do that. Leave people alone. Especially people you don't have a relationship with. You going out there in some mall, you walking down the street, you don't know that people from that person from a hill of beans.

[Chad Johnson]

And that's why this social media has messed us up about life and everything about this crazy stuff. That little kid knew what he was doing because he went in his daddy phone and got that phone number. He did that on purpose. So I. I hate saying punish your dad because your dad is trusting in you as my son, and I'm trusting you that you won't go do stuff. That's just like almost stealing, though, y'all. It's almost like you stealing from your peoples. And your dad has to take the blame for what you have done because I can't punish you because you not in the Atlantic Atlanta Falcons organization. So I had to punish your daddy because of the situation, because it hurts that person who you did it to. And these young kids today, and I tell you, this generation is different. These kids are different. They think that's funny, and they think.

[Ocho Cinco]

That'S something to do at somebody else's expense.

[Chad Johnson]

At somebody else's expense. They think this is funny. And then when you get caught, like Chad said, and boy, he ain't sorry. Cause if he was sorry, he would have said he did it from day one. And he would have been like, man, I did it. But he got caught. And when he got cold, he had to say the right thing to make his daddy be okay and look a little bit better.

[Ocho Cinco]

And you look at it. Harris played Ocho. Yeah. Shador Sanders number, phone number. Wasn't the only one in there, but he was the one that was having a precipitous fall. So now which prank is going to generate the most buzz? Knowing Shador is on egg chefs. He's on pins and needle waiting to have an NFL team call him and say, hey, we're going to select you in the fourth round. We're going to select you in the fifth round. So check this out. He got the number from an iPad that he shouldn't have been using. He waited days. Cause it ain't just happened. And then he made the prank call. He filmed himself while making prank calls. Waited days to make the apology, guys. I mean, look, everything ain't mentioned like you said.

[Chad Johnson]

You heard me.

[Ocho Cinco]

In this day and age, Ocho, everything is about clicks like mentioned and a viral moment.

[Chad Johnson]

That's what it's all about, man. That's why. Listen, that's why I like my era. We didn't have all that crap.

[Ocho Cinco]

No, man didn't play like that.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, he didn't get out.

[Ocho Cinco]

See, I tell Ocho all the time I came up. I don't remember me playing no practical jokes on nobody. Like, boy, you. You better scrap it up.

[Chad Johnson]

You can't do that. Because next time we see you, we gonna knock you out. You feel? It ain't gonna be about, man. Okay, man, I'm gonna take this. This court date, man. No, man, I'm gonna knock you smooth out. Cause we ain't talking about all that. Cause you. You messing with my livelihood. But all this social media, all that crap, man, we ain't doing that.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah, I'm glad I didn't come up in that era. I'm glad. I'm glad. Now, look, I would have loved to make the money that these cats make. But, but, but, GP I wouldn't want to be in this era. Me.

[Chad Johnson]

It's too much.

[Ocho Cinco]

I. I wouldn't want to be in the social media era. I. I wouldn't.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, I'm gonna tell y'all, I don't want to be in the social media area, because I. Shoot, I would have been divorced way earlier than what I did. No, I would have been on bad, man, you stupid, man. I would have been, man. I would have been viral all the time. You know? You know what I' man, every day you walk out, man, you going somewhere, man. Is a camera man, all man and looking at, man. Man, I ain't on that, man. What is a. Like to me? I don't care about no likes, man. I'm already popular. You know what I'm saying? I don't care if you give me a million likes. A million people already looking at me. So what? I don't care about all that, man. You messing up my life, man. And I'm not dealing with that, though. It's crazy to Me that you can sit on the phone and watch people do what they do. And they silly. You just told me. And I ain't. I ain't surprised. That boy got in that iPad and then filmed himself doing it. Stupid. Is that how you think that? And we ain't gonna figure that out. Yeah. How do you think we ain't gonna get that? That's how dudes get caught killing people, murdering me. Whatever they doing, they.

[Ocho Cinco]

Man, they go doing foolishness, filming it.

[Chad Johnson]

Go back in your phone and you got the pencil showing it and doing this and that. That. That's how they catch you. It's just silly. So that's why I tell a lot of kids that I talk to now. And social media killing y'all, man, it's hurting y'all. Yeah, it's hurting your life, man, because all y'all think about is lights and who gonna like you on there. That's how people get robbed and do stuff. You be on the thing, talk about, I'm here, I'm there, and then all of a sudden, they look in the back. Oh, man, he had Centennial Park. Let me ride up on him right now. Let me ride up on that. That's crazy to me, man, that you do that. That's just silly. That's just silly stuff to me.

[Greg Jennings]

Damn.

[Ocho Cinco]

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[Chad Johnson]

And that's. And that's good. And. And. And look at you guys. Look. Look both of y'all. Yo, his daddy. Daddy gonna make that up. You know what I'm saying? Dion did that, man. And that's what they gonna do. They gonna just show up, everybody, what they did to him, you know? Y'all know that boy shouldn't have got drafted in no fifth round. He should have been. No, I think you go from projected to be number nine, 145. That's crazy.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

And then the teams that were supposed to draft you, pass you, and then the team who drafted him had it at the 33rd pick in the second round, and they didn't beat you. See, it's got to be a black ball thing. We ain't gonna never know why what happened or why it happened. But it happened. But to me, yeah, I just tell my little, young, young nephew, man, go out there and kill him.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yep.

[Chad Johnson]

And then win the job. Get down with them, man. Be one of them special ones like Marino, like Brett Favre, man. Do that, man. It got drafted like that and then become a Hall of Famer and become one of them dudes. That's all you gotta do, man. Forget it. And then make your bread, man, the way you is. Because he popular, man. This social media got him popular. He gonna be popular no matter what. He gonna be popular.

[Greg Jennings]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

So just do it.

[Greg Jennings]

I think. I think it's a blessing in disguise. Obviously, going in the fifth round and the pick he went is not the blessing I'm talking about. I'm just saying the situation he's going to. Flacco is just there on the one year deal. Desean Watson's not going to be able to play this year. So I'm assuming the way I'm thinking and thinking it's going to play out, I think he will be able to be beat out. Kenny Pickett and Dylan Gabriel. And I think he's going to get his shot. He gonna get his shot to play. I'm not sure if it's this year, maybe it's next year, but at some point he gonna get his shot. And I think it's gonna be magical for him. And seeing it as a blessing in disguise, finally being.

[Ocho Cinco]

You know why? Because look how much pressure they put on Bronnie James. You'd have thought Bronnie James was the first pick in the draft. The way they talk about hearing about, oh, he, this. He was the. He was the 55th pick. They ain't got but five picks left. GP they make it seem like they took the man. But because of that last name, you got to understand. Yeah, if his name was Shador Jones, maybe you're right. But we know who his dad is and we know what that aura around his dad.

[Chad Johnson]

But, Shannon, I can't agree with you. I got to agree with Chad on this one.

[Ocho Cinco]

Go ahead.

[Chad Johnson]

Because that's a little bit of different talent. My little nephew Ronnie wasn't really, really ready for that situation, for that athletic ability. Right. He had to throw into that. You Forgot he missed a whole college.

[Ocho Cinco]

Oh yeah, yeah. With that heart. Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

The hard thing and you know what happened or whatever. But Shakur is ready. He yeah, he got the talent to do that right now. And if you think of Ronnie right now, Ronnie killing the G League, he had to get himself into that situation. Do it Ronnie. Don't be good in two, three years. I don't the door is going to be ready now.

[Ocho Cinco]

But see what I was saying and I'm only because of the names. What I was just saying because of the names and the expectations even though he's a fifth round pick and Ocho, you know we don't have no expectations for no fifth round pick. But because your ass name is Sanders.

[Greg Jennings]

Name is Sanders.

[Ocho Cinco]

We got expectations now for the 50 pick pick. It's just like Jokic when jokic got drafted 8. They are lying if they told they well I knew Yoki was going to be this. If you knew he was going to be this, you took it with the number one overall pick. So you a d lie saying you knew Nicola Jokic was going to turn out to be what he was going to be because he was a second round pick. I think he was like 40 something. Yeah, it's the same thing.

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[Ocho Cinco]

You so you put pressure. You say it should do it, should do it should do it. Here's a fifth round pick. You're gonna bypass that and say well look at his last name. I thought y'all said he was all this Ronnie going 55th. But if he all that he should be able to do like his game.

[Chad Johnson]

I'm gonna have all them picks. Now we went back to our four fourth round, five round, two like the NFL. Then he got picked like that and it's a little different. We only got six picks so because the simple fact is is the Lakers had that pick and it wasn't for LeBron being on the Lakers and they making that pick, he probably wouldn't have got drafted, which wouldn't be no problem, you know what I'm saying? But we only got two rats, you know what I'm saying?

[Ocho Cinco]

And half the Cigarette GP don't even make it.

[Chad Johnson]

There you go. So it's a little different of what we saying. You Know what I'm saying? We don't know if he would have got drafted if the Lakers didn't have that 55th pick.

[Ocho Cinco]

Right.

[Chad Johnson]

You know what I'm saying? But they did pick him, which was a blessing because he is talented. He is very, very talented. And you got to give him a chance. Football players got seven rounds. They gotta. They gonna do that, they gonna do that. So we gr. We happy that they do got these type of rounds. But if basketball would have had five or six, seven rounds and he got drafted in the fifth or sixth round, we wouldn't be expecting to be nothing.

[Ocho Cinco]

But hold up what you said.

[Chad Johnson]

He might not even make the team.

[Ocho Cinco]

But here's the thing, gp Once you start getting Ocho, you could. You don't know anything about this. Cause you're a second rounder. You start getting. He's six, fifth and sixth, seventh round. You camp bodies. Yeah. Hey. Oo. Hey, we can't. Hey, we need people. Hey. We just need enough to fill the roster out. It ain't no guarantee when you start getting in them later rounds like that.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, in, in, in. Y'all know, y'all first three rounds was almost like first round picks with us.

[Greg Jennings]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Basically in the NFL, the first three rounds, you, you, you start. You start in the NFL. You feel what I'm saying? You basically gonna start the NFL if you get paid. You picked in the first three rounds. You know what I'm saying? In basketball, if you pick 55th, 60, you in a G league, 10 day contract or whatever.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah, two way.

[Chad Johnson]

Two way.

[Ocho Cinco]

You're two way.

[Chad Johnson]

You're gonna be all that, man. We gonna give you a deal. Yeah. And, and you gotta look at Ronnie. He got a heck of a deal. Yeah.

[Ocho Cinco]

Oh, he got the money guaranteed. But he's not the first. But he's not the first second rounder to get money guaranteed, though.

[Chad Johnson]

No, no, no, not. No, they right. Because people believe. And other things. But then you think about it like this, Shannon. What if I don't pick you and then pick you up in the 38 and it still gives you some guaranteed money.

[Ocho Cinco]

Now, I want the guaranteed money right here. You were gonna pick me up and give me that kind of guaranteed money. So I go ahead and take this, right?

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey.

[Greg Jennings]

You heard me.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Ocho Cinco]

What you saying?

[Greg Jennings]

You're not. I don't think you're seeing it from. You're not seeing it from the same lens I'm seeing.

[Ocho Cinco]

Go ahead.

[Greg Jennings]

I'm looking at the situation in its totality. Right.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay.

[Greg Jennings]

Okay. You went fifth Round. Now I look at it. I look at the landscape of what they got. They got Flacco. Flacco not gonna be that long. Desean. Desean is hurt. He's coming off a Achilles injury. I see. I think no disrespect to Kenny Pickett, no disrespect to Dylan Gabriel. I see him beating him out. So I see Shador as the number two quarterback with Flacco playing. Now, depending on how Flacco plays throughout the entirety of the season, there's a chance that Shador, he goes to the helm. I say it's a blessing in disguise. So what happens, we think we look at the quarterback, the quarterback carousel, the quarterbacks that the Browns have had throughout the entirety of their franchise. The last decent quarterback. Hey, a lot.

[Chad Johnson]

A lot of them. The last.

[Greg Jennings]

The last good one that was consistent was Bernie Kar.

[Ocho Cinco]

I'm looking with O.T. graham. Yeah.

[Greg Jennings]

Hey, I'm looking long term. This might be a blessing in disguise, despite. Yeah, so I'm just looking at it like that. And knowing him and knowing the competitor that Shadour is, understanding the background and what he's come from, he's able to deal with this adversity and again, hurdle this out in this situation. Listen, this situation for him. Hey, G.P. delayed, not delayed.

[Chad Johnson]

I'm on your side. I think Shador is going to be their quarterback for the next six, seven years, and he gonna be good.

[Greg Jennings]

Yeah, I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say that. I'm gonna say that.

[Chad Johnson]

I can say 10, too, because I think he gonna go in there and show up. Go. Go ahead and show up. And I. I think he's got a chip on his shoulder now that him and his daddy done talked about it. Go in there and get out with what you gonna get out there. And I'm. I'm guaranteed he gonna go in there and I. I don't even care about Flaco, man. If you fooled around and be moving and doing what you do, man, and pass that thing, get first down or whatever. Them cleaning brows ain't been nothing in a long time anyway. If you can get some. Some people in them stands and getting people hyped. Shannon, you just said it. His jersey is the number one in Cleveland right now, man.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

What y'all think? What y'all think, man, that. That. That's gonna happen. I think he gonna show up, and that's what he should do. He should go in there and show up.

[Ocho Cinco]

Oh, Joe. Abdul Carr responded to us on Twitter this afternoon. I wore number 11. I have big shoes. I've filled big shoes before. If you know football, you know who also wore the stick, which means 11.

[Greg Jennings]

Yeah.

[Ocho Cinco]

It's not about the number. It's about the player, the number. Just the legacy. It's iconic. Something cool. Look at the legacy of the stick. I came to Penn State and not only lived up to that number, but I made it even more legendary. That's how I see it. I shot. If he says no, cool. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.

[Chad Johnson]

Yes, sir.

[Ocho Cinco]

But I spoke to LT on the phone yesterday. She'll do dope speaking with the goat and know for certain. 56 or not, I'll build my own legacy. I don't Allah, I think he said. I think he's saying praise to God or something like that. Abdul. Right, we said that. I mean when we had you on the couch. We appreciate it. Again, I don't thank OO and I in Nightcap. The family thank you enough for coming by. I appreciate. Hey, Bailey. Thank you, Drew. We appreciate that. Cause I Bailey, I played with Bailey for two years at Bebor. And Drew Rosenhaus, probably his first start, he was down at the East Blue Gray game in Montgomery, Alabama. Ocho in 1989. So it goes back. So Abdul, I want to thank you for coming on Ocho. I want to thank you, thank you, Drew Rosenhaus and Bailey, Robert Bailey for making that happen. Yes, we highlighted that number was made famous by Levar Arrington. That man was then followed by Michael Parsons. And then you took it. As great as those players were wearing that number 11 at Penn State, you can't even fathom because let me tell you what happened. Every outside linebacker you see is because of lt. The Von Millers, the TJ Watts, the Derrick Thomases, the Cornelius Bennett, all these, the Leonard Floyd's. You name an outside edge R. He's the only player in NFL history to make two positions famous. He made the left tackle famous. He made the outside linebacker famous. 2. When you talk about. When we talk about who's the greatest quarterback, you get some debate. Some people say Peyton, some people say Montana, some people say Brady. Not going to fight you. That's not what we're here to do today. If we say who's the greatest wide receiver you get, some people say Jerry, some people say Randy Moss, some people say to. If we say who's the best running back, some people say Jim Brown, some people say Walter Payton, Emmy Smith, Barry Samuel, Barry Sanders. When you say who is the greatest defensive NFL player ever, there's one name that comes out of everybody's mouth first. And he go, he. He goes by initials. They don't call him Lawrence. They call him lt. That's all we're saying. So I get the sticks but five, six in that now in New York, he was out.

[Chad Johnson]

And that's my. And that's my og.

[Ocho Cinco]

That's my og.

[Chad Johnson]

Every time I see him, I'm with him.

[Ocho Cinco]

I just saw him a couple of weeks ago, had that autograph signing.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, I be seeing him all the time now. You know, that's my dude, man. That was the greatest defensive player ever.

[Ocho Cinco]

And there's been some great ones. And I'm fortunate enough to play in the era. I played in the era with Reggie at his prime, Bruce Smith at his prime, Ray Lewis at his prime, Deion Coach prime at his prime. I'm talking about guys, just one defensive player to your multiples. He's it. He made two different positions famous.

[Greg Jennings]

Famous. Yeah, I think, I think it's different. I. I think it's different. But this is what I do like about Abdul. The confidence I feel, the belief. I feel I can wear that 56 and do it justice. Despite LT being the greatest defensive player of all time. That's what makes Abdul who he is right now. That's why he was drafted where he wasn't drafted when he wore the sticks when he was at Penn State. The belief, the confidence on. Not only that, in between them lines, the skill set to be able to pull it off. So the mere fact that he's coming in with that kind of cash in attitude, I feel like I could wear that 56 inch New York and do right.

[Ocho Cinco]

I only want it.

[Greg Jennings]

That's how I feel about myself.

[Ocho Cinco]

I only want it. As a matter of fact, I ain't even gonna get a 50 number because they might say I'm close to 56. I might be close there. I don't want it. I'm giving me. I go back and get that 11, I go back and get a single digit number. That's what I do.

[Chad Johnson]

This is what, this is what Shannon say, man, look at, man, I don't even want that number, man. I don't even want to live up none of that thing. Let me go on number, man.

[Ocho Cinco]

He's legendary.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, man, you can't do that. You can't do it on legendary number, man. Don't even mess with that. Don't even be talking about all that, man. To put yourself in that situation, man. Just go on the one level, do what you did. And get out. You feel what I'm saying? Get down.

[Ocho Cinco]

You know, if you hear the story about. Lt. Lt. Lt, late for the plane. LT gets out the car, throws his keys to the valet, say, I'll be back here Sunday, pick me up. And the guy picks him up on Sunday. Lt he driving to New York. Ocho. He driving. He like, damn, they got the lights on at Giants Stadium. He's supposed to be playing.

[Greg Jennings]

Hey, we. Hey, on NFL Films, man, Bill Belichick told a story one day about starting the meeting. Starting a meeting. And the head.

[Ocho Cinco]

I remember Parcel was the head coach, okay?

[Greg Jennings]

Parcel with the head coach. So Bill Bell. I think Bill must have went to Parcels and said something about, you know what. Lt you know, he showed up. He showed up late to a meeting and he wasn't there. And so Parcels asked him, well, did you start the meeting on time? Did you wait for him to get there? He said, no, I just waited for him to get there. Well, that's a good thing because the meeting don't start until LT get there.

[Chad Johnson]

I mean, what's his home? What are we.

[Greg Jennings]

What are we talking about here like that?

[Chad Johnson]

I was like, what?

[Ocho Cinco]

It's like, nah, Ocho. Guys, you got an opportunity to see Tom Brady. If you're old enough, you get an opportunity to see Tom Brady. If you weren't old enough, you didn't see Joe and those come from behind victories and you didn't see Elway and Marino in play. So I don't think people realize because they see T.J. watt and they see Aaron. Think about it. This man won the MVP of the league as a defensive player of the league.

[Greg Jennings]

Different man.

[Ocho Cinco]

He was LT. What was LT like a 10 time all probably like 8 or 9. First team. Do you know how hard it is to be that a first team? I think Brady has three first team all pros. Those were the season that he won the mvp. Let that sink in for a second. Aaron Donald was, I think an eight time first team all pro in ten seasons. I think LT had that many. But LT had like. I think he went like six or seven in a row. Carl Banks, somebody beat him out and then he went to another two or three. How many first team all pros did LT have? Eight. First team. How many consecutive? Seven. He was eight first team. And how many second team? One or two. But I. But look, Abdul, I think. I think you're gonna be a phenomenal player. Go strike. Yo. Go. Go get your. Go build your own legacy. Cause you're there. I mean, because think about It. I don't care what quarter you think Joe Burrow gonna go to New England, say, hey, let me get that 12.

[Chad Johnson]

But, but, but, but, Shannon, we shouldn't even be talking about this. And the Giants should be like, man, you can't have that number.

[Greg Jennings]

Hey, listen, hey, gp. Gp, in that. In that media market, you know how New York media is. You know, they don't play you. Don't play you.

[Chad Johnson]

You.

[Greg Jennings]

Hey, listen, you dawn that 56 and understand what comes behind that. Or even having it on your having it.

[Ocho Cinco]

That man is beloved.

[Chad Johnson]

Listen, and I.

[Greg Jennings]

Listen, I'm. And you know how I am, gp. You know how I am. I don't care what nobody say, especially the media, because I'm act a fool. But I. I wouldn't even. I'm just saying if, hypothetically speaking, I don't want what comes behind that 56 wearing it every Sunday at 1:00.

[Chad Johnson]

No, no, like I said, they shouldn't even think about getting it to me going. Here, man, this your church, man. You see your locker?

[Ocho Cinco]

You already got to hang it up.

[Chad Johnson]

Gp Just hang his jersey up in his locker room and say, you got 11. It is what it is, man. Don't even come to my office talking about 56. And then I send LT and bring him to the thing and say, boy, you know better than that. I'm the one. You know what I'm saying?

[Ocho Cinco]

Sit down, let's talk LT. Good LT.

[Chad Johnson]

Respect.

[Ocho Cinco]

LT's like, yeah, I appreciate it, but.

[Chad Johnson]

No, yeah, yeah.

[Ocho Cinco]

I mean, like, if you. You've been around lt, I've been around lt. I don't know how much you've been around lt, Ocho, but he a cool dude.

[Greg Jennings]

Hey, no, hey, hold on, hold on. Hey, that's a good one. Me and lt, we be at Twin Peaks. I'm saying, you can see the pictures. I see him all the time. He coming off the golf course.

[Chad Johnson]

Ok, ok. Coming there, smoking cigar with buddies.

[Ocho Cinco]

That's him. That's him. That's all he want to do is golf and smoke them cigars.

[Chad Johnson]

And I see him in the. I see him in about two weeks. Anthony Anderson's a golf benefit, so. Yeah, I see him all the time with signings and everything. That's my guy. So you know what I'm saying, man. Lt ain't worried about that. Lt was gonna tell that boy, you ain't gonna never compare to me. Everybody gotta understand. Put your name or your picture next to me. You can't. It ain't gonna never be another lt don't get what nobody say. Right. You understand me? Just put your picture and we'd be good.

[Greg Jennings]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

You know, the judge shouldn't put him in that situation.

[Ocho Cinco]

All right.

[Greg Jennings]

You know what I do like?

[Chad Johnson]

All right, before we go, before you.

[Greg Jennings]

Go, I just want to say this about Abdul Carter. You know what I do like though, GP and UNCLE oh, I love that.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[Greg Jennings]

Hey, there's something in players that don't have that we had back in the day. Gp, you talked about it earlier. You know, as far as supporting cast, you know, role players and all that young bull.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Greg Jennings]

He do for the mere fact even had the gall and the ball to say I want to think about this.

[Ocho Cinco]

Ocho.

[Greg Jennings]

What did that tell you? What did that tell you about him?

[Ocho Cinco]

Aaron Donald won three defensive players a year. So did J.J. watt. And ain't nobody said they're better than LT. And we watching them in this era. So now remember now when LT played, they didn't throw the football like they throw it now. He didn't have the chances to go to hunt the quarterback like they do now. They put a special Joe Gibbs put a special offense in just to deal with lt. He put the H back in. He said, I want to put somebody over here with the left tackle so they can help on lt. Help him out.

[Greg Jennings]

He'll help him out.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah, that's when you know when they put it, when they design a special offense to deal with you. If you couldn't block him, you couldn't beat the Giants. Go back and look at the 80s and look at the left tackles that got drafted in the first round. Jim Lachey and they go get Irv Eatman, they go get Gary Zimmerman, they get Steve Wallace. Go back and look and see what they did just to deal with this man. The volume.

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