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Nightcap Hour 1: Alabama ROLLS OVER Tennessee + Georgia PROVES They Are BACK + Johnny Manziel says the AGGIES are WINNING the NATTY
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Johnny Manziel
I'm doing great, unc. How are you?
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Shannon Sharpe
I'm doing amazing, man. Thank you for being here with us. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button. And do us a favor, go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. We would like to thank each and every one of you that's given us your eyes, your ears, and your word of mouth for joining us every time Ocho and I come on. And when we have a guest like Johnny that fills in for college football season, we really, really appreciate your support and your consent. Consent. Continue support. Because none of this is possible without you. Make sure you check out my Laporte, my cognac shaved by laportier. Now it is the best tasting premium VSOP cognac on the market. Don't take my word for it. Try it for yourself. Compare it and if you don't agree, man, I want to know the cognac that you tried to beat mine as far as taste, smoothness and those that rich, those notes that you taste. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Make sure you check out my media company on all of his platforms, Shay Shay Media and my clothing company, 84. With 84 being spelled out, that link is pinned in the chat. As I mentioned before, Johnny is joining us tonight. Go subscribe to his podcast. It's on your YouTube channel, Glory Days with Johnny Manziel. As we mentioned before, the number six Alabama Crimson Tide took down the number 11 Tennessee Volunteers 37 to 20. Ty Simpson was sensational again tonight. Johnny 19 of 29, 253, two touchdowns. But the game was broken open right before the half. Looked like Tennessee was going in to get a score and he's late and inside on a flat rod, what we call flow pass. It's to the flat and then you have a seven route and you know if you latent inside on that.
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Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Hope you got somebody fast that can run somebody down because it's going to be a house, it's going to be a curtain call. And that's what happened. And Alabama really never looked back. Alabama, Tennessee ran the ball really well. Bishop was sensational. 14 carries, a buck 23, two touchdowns. But they got stopped on fourth down and for all intents and purposes the game was over. Johnny watching this game, Alabama came out on fire. He got the touchdown, went right down the field and then all of a sudden they struggled for a few drives. Tennessee comes back and ties it up. They get a field goal and then right, you know, get another touchdown and then that pick right before the half. I really think that that took a lot of momentum and win out of the sale of the volunteers 100%.
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Johnny Manziel
Anytime you have Alabama has an opposing quarterback that they make throw it 44 times in a game, that's not going to be a recipe for success. I think you look at the game, everything was okay. Tennessee's going into Score, the whole game is going to change. Then you throw it late inside. Like we said, it's deuces. So I mean, that's a play you can't come back from. You can have a great second half and try and go get some cleanup points late or whatever you're trying to do. But for the most part, Bama has a really good football team. So at the end of the day, if you're not going to come out and play flawless football, no turnovers, win the turnover battle, run it down their throat, be aggressive. Look, right now, in my opinion, I wrote this down when I walked in. I got three guys right now who were playing really good ball at the quarterback position as far as taking over a Heisman race, looking really good, having their moments. Ty Simpson for sure. You have to throw him in there. I think he's playing as good as anybody in the country. I think Diego Pavia and what he's doing and what Vandy did today, they just kept coming at LSU all day today. And then A and M is undefeated for the first time since 1994. Marcel Reed, more touchdowns tonight. Leading that team. You go on the road, you win a shootout. Those guys have big moments coming up throughout the rest of the season to really solidify what they want to do.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, you're absolutely right. I think the thing is playing in the sec, when you look at it and you look at the schedule that's remaining, whoever can, if you can run the table, that definitely helps. But if the. Whoever wins, lose the fewest games. I thought Gunner Stockton played really well. I like the kid up at Ohio State, he's playing really well. But it's going to come down. And when you look at it, nobody. We're not even really. Johnny, if you really think about it, Ocho, we're not even really talking about the Heisman race. Normally at this point in time, somebody would have stepped out there and we like, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But we just got a bunch of guys just plump together and we're waiting for someone to take to, to take the lead and move to the front. Oo watching this game. Alabama 37, Tennessee 20. This doesn't look like the Alabama that I'm used to seeing because the Alabama I'm used to seeing can stop the run. They could put pressure on the quarterback with four. They can't do either.
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Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson
Now, I was, I was, I was ready to say the same thing. They don't look like the Alabama role for one. When you, you look at the Tennessee and the Alabama Playing most of the time. Alabama used to dominance. Not dominance in spurs, but dominance in all four quarters of a game. Obviously Tennessee had a chance to keep the game close. Throwing an interception before half, obviously that, that sets things apart and it makes it that much more difficult when you turn the ball over against a good Alabama team. Not very, very good what we're used to seeing, but a good Alabama team. Then they, they, they run away with the game. When you turn the ball over and don't take advantage of opportunity that you do have to score. Outside of that, you expect Alabama to win a game like this when they're playing a team like Tennessee that had success in the running game but weren't able to dominate in other areas to really give themselves a chance to actually compete, especially in the second half.
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Shannon Sharpe
You think Alabama, Alabama normally do three things really well. They run the football, they stop the run.
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Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
And they can get after your quarterback with four. If you, if you go back and look at all those defensive guys that's gone. They normally have really good on the back end. They got corners and safety that's going in the first round. And they have D lineman that can flat out get after you. They don't really have that now. We don't see. Look, they got some sacks early. 42. I can't. His name, I can't remember his name off the top of my head. I'm sorry about that. And he got a safety. But other than that, Johnny, when you go back and look at Alabama, the guy was just patting the ball and normally it. In order to beat Alabama. If you go back and look at Alabama since Coach Saban got there and to now, it's normally a mobile quarterback. It's the Johnny Manziels, it's the Cam Newtons, it's guys that can move around that normally beat him. Just dropping back and throwing the ball. It really doesn't happen that often. Cordell Jones had success in the, in the College Football Playoff that one year. And I think Trevor Knight threw the ball well. They went to the Sugar Bowl. They thought they was going to the national championship. Coach Saban said they weren't mentally prepared. But normally it's mobile quarterbacks that gives him fit. I'm looking at, I'm looking at this Alabama. Yes, it's a big time win. And anytime you could beat a division team, a conference opponent that's ranked very high, you feel good. But this not. This doesn't look like John and Ocho, the Alabama that we're used to seeing.
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Johnny Manziel
I don't I don't know if it needs to, though. I don't know if we're going to see the same Saban led. We're not. We're not going to see the old Alabama of what we're used to. This is a very new era, new coaching style, Alabama. But right now they have a quarterback that's playing off the charts. They have a run game that's able to move the ball. They have a defense that's doing enough. You know, they're solid all the way through. They're not. They're bending but not breaking. They're doing what they need to do. So you look at their schedule, they have one slip up so far and a really hard schedule left, but they're handling what they need to do and handling business. And the SEC is what it is. We know that at the end of the day, it's going to be a. Two losses in the SEC get you in. You know, Ole Miss takes an L today to kind of knock them off a little bit. But at the end of the day, I think their quarterback played really well for three and a half, almost four full quarters. They have a really good squad. Georgia has a really good squad. Bama has a really good squad. A and M is a good team. I don't think Tennessee is a bad team. So I think you look at the SEC and you look at top to bottom, I would say really impressive lineup. I think we're going to get six, seven teams in this college Football playoff again.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
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Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson
You know, you know what else? I think I just, I just want to add, when we look at, look at the landscape of college football now, most of the times there was always a definite quarterback. We talked about, also talked about earlier in the show, the Heisman race. You know, obviously they had, they had Arch Manning who they claimed to have already appointed as the Heisman winner. And we see how that's going to date. And the race is so close because no one else has stepped up to the forefront. No one else has stepped. Yeah, you have players that are playing good, Johnny. I'm talking about playing great. Like when you were playing, you got to tune in to watch every time. When Cam was playing your Tim Tebows, we haven't had anyone like that. That's exciting. When you look at an Alabama team, unknown, look at the Alabama team that had all these different strengths. So when you missing those strengths most of the time, what's going to make up for the lack of what you have in other areas you make up for at your quarterback position? Now he's, he's playing okay, he's playing okay, but he's not. You know that elite talent that you look for that makes Alabama who they once were when they lack in other areas.
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Shannon Sharpe
Well, we're going to have to in order for you.
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Johnny Manziel
I think he's going to. I think he can make any throw. I think, I think right now he got nice army. I think, to be honest, I was thinking this in the car on the way here when I was watching the game that he's the best quarterback we've seen in Alabama since Tua and Jalen. I like the way he's playing better than Mac Jones did. Yes.
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Shannon Sharpe
Max, you like him better than Bryce.
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Johnny Manziel
No, no, you're right, you're right. But right now for what they need and what he's doing, I mean I watched the in person versus Vandy every time they needed to play. This guy's putting the ball on the money and where they need to be.
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Shannon Sharpe
You know, like he definitely might have a stronger arm than, than Bryce. I think the thing is that when we go back to fake Heisman Trophy winners, we always think of that signature moment. Johnny, we remember that moment with you against Alabama. Joe Burrow, you go back and look at it. What was it? It was tennis, it was Texas. He went crazy and it's. Ah, man, that's just, that's just. And then he goes down to Tuscaloosa and he does that and it says okay, he the real deal. You look at Cam, it was a Saturday night against South Carolina. He goes berserk. And then it was a no brainer. They're down what, 24 to nothing, 21 nothing against Alabama in Alabama and Iron bowl and he brings them all the way back. It was a no brainer. It was, it was a no doubter from that point on. So we're just looking for one of these guys in a, in a big spot national televised game to go haywire. Now Gunnar Stockton played really well today. Uh, you know, it seemed like especially in the first half, every time Ole Miss touched the ball, they scored a touchdown.
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Johnny Manziel
Yep.
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Shannon Sharpe
And then in the fourth quarter, Georgia's like Gunnar Stockton was matching them. And then all of a sudden Georgia defense came up with a couple of stops. As a matter of fact. Let's go ahead and talk. Let's get to that game instead of just, you know, talking around it. Let's get to what are we gonna go to? What game we going to next?
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Johnny Manziel
Almost Georgia.
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Shannon Sharpe
Okay, let me. That seems to be the game everybody. I'm Scared.
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Johnny Manziel
Ocho, what was your favorite game of the day today?
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Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson
When I was able to attend and actually sit in the student section all game.
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh yeah, the Kentucky Texas.
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Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson
Man, listen, hey, hey, Johnny, man, they had, they tried to put me in the suite and I'm sitting in the suite and I'm like, I, I can't do this. I can't do it. It's just too quiet. So I asked, I asked the ad, you know, do you mind if I sit down in the student section? I sat down, I sat down in the student section all the way to the fourth quarter. I had a good time.
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Shannon Sharpe
Georgia Bulldogs. The number nine Georgia Bulldogs at home score 43 points in a shootout and beat the number five Ole Miss Rebels 43 35. Gunnar Stockton was 26 of 31, 289, four touchdowns and another touchdown on the ground. Georgia ran the ball 49 times, 221 yards. Trinidad Chambers wasn't bad in the first half. When they needed him to step up big, he didn't come up big. 1936, 263, one touchdown, 24 rush attempts, 1888 yards. They had another four touchdowns on the ground. But with Georgia big fourth quarter, scored 17 points. Ole Miss didn't score anything because they had a nine point lead going into the fourth. And then the next thing you know, the team's Georgia scores 43, scores 17 in the fourth to take the ball game over. Watch it. I don't know how much of this game you were able to see, Johnny, but it seemed like, okay, whomever gets the ball last, that's who's going to win this ball game. And then all of a sudden, Ole Miss couldn't do anything. They couldn't do anything.
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Shannon Sharpe
Come on. Why is this taking so long? This thing is ancient.
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Johnny Manziel
Look you, you look at their, you look at their rushing. They rushed it 24 times for 88 yards. You got to have some kind of ground game. And Georgia is very good up front. They're very stout, they're very solid. I think you look at the first half of the game, their quarterback led them through that whole first half. For them to be absolutely first half lead. Every, every third down under route was perfect in front. He's putting a lot of zip on the ball. He's a really good player and I think Lane Kiffin has a really good squad. Look, when you look back at this game, yeah, Georgia wins by eight. But I feel like the game was a lot closer than what the score kind of, kind of says. I think this is Ole Miss team that could be competitive versus anybody. I think this is a Georgia team. If Gunner Stockton is going to throw four touchdowns for 275 plus yards, they're going to be able to play with anybody as well. So once again, another great SEC game. Ole Miss falls a little short, but this is one of those games, you look at their schedule and you're like, you know what? We can drop one. We have that luxury because the way we played for the six weeks prior you.
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Shannon Sharpe
Georgia dominated. Time of possession 30 over almost 38 minutes to 22 minutes. Both teams really good on third down. One was five of nine, the other was six of 11. Georgia had five hundred and ten total yards. Ole Miss had 350.
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Johnny Manziel
No turnovers and only one sack in the whole game.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, the whole really four penalties for Ole Miss for 40 yards, three penalties of 37 yards for Georgia. So it was really a clean game. It wasn't a, you know, laundry on the field, all over the place. There weren't a whole lot of turnovers, but for the most, for the first three quarters, neither defense could dig their heels in and get a stop. And then when Georgia really needed to bow their backs oo, they did that and, and Ole Miss really didn't have an answer.
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Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson
Yeah, that's, that's what I was going to say when it, when it matters most, who's going to make the play, when it actually matters most. If the turnovers aren't going to make the difference in the game, it can be the team that makes the fewest mistakes when it comes to executing offense or the defense. When you got to have it and Georgia was able to do that and pull it out. I mean, ole, Ole Miss played extremely well today. They played extremely well. Hell, Georgia played, played well. It was a back and forth game. And I'm, and I'm thinking to myself, well, in order for either of these teams to win, it's gonna come down to two things. Somebody have to execute in the time where it matters most or turnovers are gonna be the side of the game. And that's exactly, exactly how it went.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, you look at. I think the thing is that when I look at an offensive defense, it doesn't matter how good or whatever your stats say you are. We average 500 yards of offense or we have the number one scoring defense. We're number one on third downs. Okay. I measure offense and defense. Can you be good when you have to be good? What good is you?
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Johnny Manziel
You.
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Shannon Sharpe
What good is that? You're number one on third down if you can't get off the field when you absolutely have to in a meaningful. In a game like this, no doubt. What good is scoring 35, 40 points a game and all of a sudden you, you need to score, your offense needs to score and you can't get it to make it 24. So don't give me all this number. I throw all that stuff out the window. Can you get done what you need to get done when you absolutely have to have it? Prime example oo the other night when you guys needed to make a play, all that.
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Johnny Manziel
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Joe Flacco throwing for this many yards and Chase got this many yards. Okay, now you need to go down and get in field goal rage. Can you do it now? Now it matters.
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Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
All the other stuff was great. Now it matters in Georgia. This is the second time they've done this. Remember Auburn? We talked about them against Auburn, Johnny. And Ocho is that Auburn was dominating the ball game. The difference is Auburn's going in to score, Georgia punches it out, goes 99 yards, gets a field goal right before, right before intermission. And then they come out and take the game over and they don't look back. Georgia down nine start the fourth quarter and now they score 17 straight and they don't look back. Am I surprised at how the teams are Moving the ball against Georgia because the one thing we know about Georgia, Kirby, keep defensive guys normally linebackers and linebackers in D line. I was surprised at which the ease in which Ole Miss was moving the ball at least through the first three quarters.
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Johnny Manziel
I think they have a good offense. I think Lane is really prepared for the defenses in the scheme. Look, these guys have gone against each other for years. Kirby's going to run his defense, he's going to coach his way, Lane's going to coach his way, and that's the way it's going to be. These are guys who are very familiar with each other. They're definitely trolling each other through throughout the game, throughout the week. Like they have a good relationship, but it's competitive at the end of the day. So look, you see it so much, they've gone up against each other so much that you're going to have so much familiarity with everything that this is real high level college football on the scheme side, both offensively and defensively for both squads. So I'm surprised that it was as high scoring as it was. But you know, both of these teams can go.
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Shannon Sharpe
Anything else you want to add to that, Ocho?
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Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson
No, no, no. That's pretty good. That's pretty good.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. All right, we're gonna take Johnny. We're gonna get to your squad now.
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Johnny Manziel
Let's go.
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Shannon Sharpe
Texas A M goes on the road, scores 45. And they needed all 45 because every bit of it. Those razorbacks gave them everything they wanted down in Fayetteville and they get, they, they win a squeaker. 45, 42. Johnny's guy, Marcel Reed was 23 of 32, 283 touchdowns. He also had another touchdown on the ground, so he had four total touchdowns. Arkansas passing green. It was 19 of 32, 256, three touchdowns. They ran the ball 32 times for 268, 500. You guys had read it right about 500 yards. Arkansas actually out gained you guys, but you guys found a way to get a victory. What, what, what do you like about what you're seeing from your team, Johnny? I mean could. Look, sometimes you might need the defense to make a stand and then sometimes offensively, you offense, you need to score 40 plus points. And it was clearly one of those games your offense really didn't need needed to be flawless tonight and get 40, get 45 clean game, no turnovers, no ints, no fumbles. A clean game and you guys needed it. And to get a win against the underranked Arkansas on the road, I Thought.
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Johnny Manziel
This game was going to be a game. When I looked at the forecast early in the week, it was wet, it was going to rain. I thought it was going to be low scoring. We were going to rely on our defense and. No, no, no, no, no. They score 87 points in this game. They need every single one of them. The thing that you have to like the most is look, week after week, we're relying on different areas of the football team to win the game. A couple weeks ago, we needed every bit of the defense to come in and hold some, some ground against Florida, against Auburn. Those are good, good wins for us. And then you go into an Arkansas game. Look, for the last 13, 14 years, this game between Arkansas normally happens in Dallas and it's been wacky every single year. We found a way to pull it out. I saw a clip of Kenny Hill throwing a cover to hole shot to Reynolds. And they score late in the game to tie it up. And we go on to win that. I'm on the sideline. This is 10 years ago now, and the whole series with Arkansas has been this way. They played us tough. I think from 2013 on, even my second year there, they played us really, really tough. This is just one of those matchups where you're going to get a grind it out style of game. The thing I like the most, no turnovers, no sacks. Marcel Reed's not on the ground. He's running just enough at 35 or 40 yards or whatever he had in a touchdown to be super, super effective with his legs. Picking up a first down here when he needs to go and get it. And he's throwing the ball really well. Look. 280 yards and three touchdowns. Put some respect on his name, for real. I mean, this guy's leading a very good ball club with a defense that looked a little banged up at times tonight and had some guys down and coming in and coming out. But at the end of the day, look, Elko has these guys rolling. He's got them juiced. We still have a hard schedule. We still got a game against Missouri. We still got lsu, we still got Texas. But for now, if they continue this week by week approach, how can you not love the Aggies? I mean, we're ranked 4 in the country.
- [30:32]
Shannon Sharpe
We gonna, we, we gonna get to LSU in just a second.
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Shannon Sharpe
That's gonna be tough. But you look at A and M, Johnny, you guys had 29 first down. You were 511 on third down, but you were a perfect 3 for 3 on third downs. 497 total yards possessed the football a little less than 34 minutes. As you said, no turnovers. The ball wasn't on the ground. Neither was your quarterback.
- [30:54]
Johnny Manziel
No, we're missing our running back too. We're missing, we're missing Le'Veon Moss. That's a huge piece for us. So to have guys, to have Owens come in adding 69, Reed has 55, E.J. smith has 52. Like for us, those guys are averaging 5 yards of carry, 9.2 yards of carry and 7.4 yards of carry. And Concepcion gets one carry for 16 yards, averaging 16 a carry. Colin Klein has some stuff up his sleeve right now, and I think he's dialing up really good game plans every.
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- [35:09]
Shannon Sharpe
You guys are probably climb the number two. Miami. The Canes. They lost. Beck had a horrible game through four interceptions last night. The question I have for you Johnny, is this the Aggies year.
- [35:26]
Johnny Manziel
We're in the best position we've been in in decades. We're, we're, we're in the best position we could possibly be in. Our schedule is favorable. Our team is playing well. Our coach is embodying everything that Texas A and M is about once again. And every Aggie will tell you read any comment on any of our posts or anything. Texas A and M. Everybody is like just keep playing ball. It's just we, we don't need to be crowned national champions right now in October. We need to get into the college Football playoff, playing good football and hopefully get a favorable matchup. That's all the Aggies can hope for. So is this our year? Yes, this is our year in the sense that we need to get into the playoff. We have a schedule that the outlook of it looks like, worst case scenario, we drop a couple. But at the end of the day, the way they're playing, I would put us on the field against anybody right now and, and say we have a good shot to be victorious at the end of the day.
- [36:28]
Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson
And you, you, you want to get hot too. You want that timing. You want that timing. And when you get into a groove offensively and defensively, you want to hit it at the right time. You don't want to peak too soon. You know, you don't want to peek too soon. Peak right before maybe a week or two before the college playoffs and then you get going. That's, that's when it's, that's when it's.
- [36:47]
Johnny Manziel
All about who's playing the best ball at the end of December, middle of December.
- [36:51]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, you don't want to peek too soon. Look, I, I try to watch a different team, obviously the games that we're going to talk about, but right now, if you, if you, if you force me, I think Ohio State is the best team in football. Now. I don't know, I don't know if they play top notch competition, but the, the way their defense can dominate and those, those playmakers they got on the outside and they can run the football and that quarterback, I don't know where they got it from, but he's playing his ass off. So on a neutral because is it still the same where, you know, the first game is at the home is a home state is a home game. And the College Football Playoff guy, Johnny, you know, is it the same?
- [37:31]
Johnny Manziel
I'm pretty sure that you still get a home game for the, for the top, for the top city team.
- [37:36]
Shannon Sharpe
So it's good, it's going to be tough. Good luck going, going into the, the horseshoe and, and, and beating, beating Ohio. Yeah, because they got play gonna be.
- [37:46]
Johnny Manziel
No cakewalk for them. They ain't gonna walk through this playoff. They're not just gonna walk down everybody and hawk them down and walk through this and be like, what's up? We're, we're champions again. That, that ain't gonna happen.
- [37:55]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, well, we go look, the game that they, they want, they. Look, obviously they want to be national championship, but they want some revenge on Michigan. Michigan been kicking their ass for the last two or Three years and it didn't make a difference. Coach Jim Harbaugh, he leaves and now the other guy comes in, he's still kicking ass. And he beat him last year in Ohio State. So you know, that's how he got the contract. He got that contract. Hey May, you beat Ohio State. Yeah, let me go and get that. But the game, the guy that you're mentoring, the Vanderbilt Commodores, the number 17 Vanderbilt Commodores 31. The number 10 LSU Tigers 24. Pavia 14, 22. 161 touchdowns. No interception, quarterback, the ball nor the quarterback was on the ground. He had another 17 carries for 86 yards and another two touchdowns. So he had three total touchdowns. They ran the ball 45 times for 239 yards. Yeah, you may. You know Brian Kelly now, you know he known, known to jump ship. You know Penn State job opening cuz he Cincinnati to know the name, know the name to lsu.
- [39:09]
Johnny Manziel
It's a lot easier route up there in that conference, that's for sure. And he's gonna have a lot less of a hot seat up there. It'll be nice and comfy. Cushy new contract. Look, Bandy can play. They went in there at home nussm play well. He scrambled out of a lot of plays. They had a lot of explosive plays in this game. LSU did and Vandy answered back every single time. Pavia needed to scramble for a touchdown late in the fourth or whatever. It was really good drive by them. I think Vandy just answered the call. This is not the Vandy of old. They are playing with a lot of swagger. They played two and a half, really good quarters versus Bama and then kind of let it down and didn't play the way they needed to. But at the end of the day, Vandy's a good football team. Diego Pavia is an experienced veteran of a quarterback, a guy who spent a lot of time there. He plays with a lot of swagger, a lot of heart and the guys on the team love him. You look at the sideline when he comes off when they score a touchdown. That's great team camaraderie. He's a great kid. He's a great friend of mine and I'm, I'm happy for him. If you look at the LSU side of things, we're back to banging our head against the wall because this is a tough one to swallow. You could see it on the sideline. Ness Meyer was hurt after this one and you know, for me I've had a lot of people reach out to me about, you know why. Why are you supporting Diego Pavia so hard when you got a guy in Marcel Reed that at A and M is doing amazing things? You want me to tell you why?
- [40:43]
Shannon Sharpe
Because I.
- [40:44]
Johnny Manziel
With every quarterback that's going out and living their dream and playing on Saturdays, every single one of them, Carson Beck, you're on my shit list a little bit right now after what you did this week. But I still love you. I'm still gonna see you in the club live on Sunday, I'm sure. Nevertheless, I want to be a guy who comes in and helps hype up these dudes, give them good advice, learn from my downfalls, from my pitfalls. So whether it's Marcel, whether it's Diego, whether it's Ty Simpson, whoever it is, I'm reaching out to all these guys. I'm sending a lot of love and a lot of advice in whatever capacity they want it from. For me and any quarterback that's out there in college football, living their dream, walking into a Saturday and putting the university on their back to go try and win a game, there's nothing but love for me.
- [41:35]
Shannon Sharpe
Vanderbilt is six and one for the first time in 75 years. And so in seven decades, seven and a half decades, they're six and one. Pavia has a passing and a rushing touchdown in 25 straight games. That is the second longest streak since behind FSU Tommy Castellano's 27 games. Look, this is not, this is not the Vanderbilt that I grew up on. Ocho, you grew up on where they was everybody's homecoming. They had their coming out party last year when they did what they did to Bama and, and everybody thought that was a, that was a one time thing. They backed it up. This year they played Alabama tough, as Johnny mentioned. Now they get a win over number 10 team in the country. So now they start to believe because they got this, this quarterback. When you got the quarterback, you got a chance. I don't give a damn what conference you play in and I don't care who you play. If you got a guy that's going to touch the ball in College somewhere between 65 and 80 times a game, if he's legit, you got a chance.
- [42:41]
Johnny Manziel
No doubt.
- [42:41]
Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson
And that is that, that's exactly what they got. That's why Vanderbilt looks the way they look now. This is why they've been. There's why they're six and one after being, after never having a record like this at 75 years. You know how. Goddamn.
- [42:54]
Johnny Manziel
Yeah, I do.
- [42:56]
Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson
Not. Not being Able to be, to be good. And obviously it's obviously coaching, but also, also, also having the players, having the players on both sides of the ball, including special teams as well, that, that gets left out. But when you have a quarterback in place, like you said, that can handle what he needs to do as much as he touches the ball. This is how you look.
- [43:17]
Shannon Sharpe
Vandy dominated time of possession almost 12 and 12 and a half minutes longer than, actually 13 minutes longer than LSU had the ball. They were six of 13 on, on third down. There were two of three on fourth down. Yeah.
- [43:41]
Johnny Manziel
If you were Brian Kelly, Young. If you were Brian Kelly. Right. We know how he is. We've seen his press conferences, we've seen how he is. He's got a track record throughout the years. But if you were sitting there and you were in his shoes, what do you do?
- [43:56]
Shannon Sharpe
I would have never left. I would have, we don't, I don't know.
- [43:59]
Johnny Manziel
I never left Notre Dame.
- [44:02]
Shannon Sharpe
No, sir.
- [44:03]
Johnny Manziel
But now you do and you're in the booth and now you got a bunch of fired up occasions on your ass every week and you ain't got it.
- [44:12]
Shannon Sharpe
If you can't win in lsu, you're not winning in Penn State.
- [44:15]
Johnny Manziel
I agree.
- [44:16]
Shannon Sharpe
You get superior athletes at lsu. They now understand it's a, it's a superior. I think, I think the SEC is the toughest conference in football. Now you can debate that and go back and forth, I mean team for team, but I think when you go back and look at it, more players come out of the sec, go to the NFL than any other conference that, that's, that's happened. I don't, I don't think, I don't think he can recruit any better at Penn State than what he's recruiting at lsu.
- [44:43]
Johnny Manziel
Agreed.
- [44:45]
Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson
But can I say something real quick? You know, you know one thing, it doesn't even come down to recruiting anymore. It doesn't come down to recruiting anymore. I don't care how, I don't care how many houses and how many couches you sit on and talk to people's family. It all comes down to the check that you're writing, the check that you're writing for these individual players that you want to come in and change the trajectory of your team and want a chance to compete. Acc, sec, it doesn't matter how much are you willing to pay because in order to win now, which is why we see the playing field has, even from team to team, and there's no domination by one team. And week to week, we watch these games On Saturday, there's a good chance that either team can win. There's a good chance. And we've, and we've seen that time and time again this year. It always happened. Teams that are, team that normally dominated back in the days aren't dominating like they want, like they once did.
- [45:38]
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- [45:38]
Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson
Because the money, money talks is different. Players are going all over.
- [45:42]
Johnny Manziel
Where is there more money at Penn State or lsu?
- [45:46]
Shannon Sharpe
That's interesting.
- [45:48]
Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson
That's a good, that's a good one.
- [45:49]
Johnny Manziel
Because I think it's about the same.
- [45:51]
Shannon Sharpe
I do.
- [45:52]
Johnny Manziel
Yeah, I say it's probably pretty close. I say you're going to have a 20 million dollar roster at both places. Probably. Right. That's just a number. You got some schools that are going to spend 25, 26, 27. That's a 7 million dollar difference. You're definitely going to have some backups in a better spot and some starting players in different positions that are making a little bit more. But for the top, you know, 10, 15 programs, you're at a 20 plus million dollar roster. I think it's probably pretty close. I think, I think the SEC and LSU and what they've done has been historically better. So you're going to have a little pedigree there and just where you're recruiting the athletes from and in the south is going to be better at lsu. So he's going to have to grind it out, try to find another quarterback after Nussmeier that can get the program rolling. And you just stick it out.
- [46:43]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, he's known to jump ship. I don't know Ocho, if the same amount of money, you know, you had Jaden Daniels and you didn't win a national championship or you didn't even come close. It's, it's always, he's always losing the game, Johnny, that you like. Okay, they gonna win this one and somebody nips him, somebody get, somebody gets him. And then you know, he, he would be a hard coach to play for. Cause you know, he blamed, he blamed the players and this and that. I'm like, bro, what about you? What about you? You, you, you, you, you. You talk about us and this is not what we coach. It is, it is.
- [47:25]
Johnny Manziel
On the direct deposit bank account every week. He's happy no matter what. He's sending the blame everywhere else.
- [47:34]
Shannon Sharpe
20, 25 nil rankings LSU 20 million. Penn State 13 million.
- [47:40]
Johnny Manziel
Okay, there you go. 7 million more. That's huge.
- [47:42]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
- [47:43]
Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson
Hey, matter of fact on that ranking list, who's number one, huh? I'm curious.
- [47:46]
Shannon Sharpe
Ohio State Is or Texas A and M. Okay.
- [47:50]
Johnny Manziel
It's gonna be close. Worried about 26? 20. Texas number one.
- [47:54]
Shannon Sharpe
Texas is number one with 22.
- [47:56]
Johnny Manziel
They had a good game today against Kentucky.
- [47:59]
Shannon Sharpe
Ohio State is 2 at 20. 20, 21, or 20.5. Wow. So think about it. The top three are in the SEC. No. Ohio State. Excuse me. LSU. LSU is 3, Texas is 1. You got Ohio State smack dab in the middle. Alabama up there somewhere.
- [48:24]
Johnny Manziel
What's the top five?
- [48:25]
Shannon Sharpe
Does it say what's.
- [48:29]
Johnny Manziel
Did you say Alabama's three?
- [48:32]
Shannon Sharpe
No. Oh. LSU is three. Texas, Ohio State, lsu, Georgia, A. M.
- [48:41]
Johnny Manziel
All right, four out of five. Sec.
- [48:45]
Shannon Sharpe
Alabama is seven. Who's six?
- [48:49]
Johnny Manziel
Oregon.
- [48:55]
Shannon Sharpe
But could it. Could we see a. A switch? Michigan to 6. Could we see a flip? James Franklin goes to LSU. Brian Kelly goes to Penn State.
- [49:10]
Johnny Manziel
I think. I think Penn State needs to go after Matt Rule with everything that they have, because Nebraska ain't going nowhere. They can't be Minnesota. We're just. We're out in the woods in the mud with our tires spinning and just burning the engine. We ain't going nowhere with that program.
- [49:30]
Shannon Sharpe
I think the thing is. But here, let me. Let me ask you this, Johnny, because I think the thing a lot of times is that I remember what Nebraska used to be.
- [49:39]
Johnny Manziel
Of course, this is like talking about Colorado and what they used to be.
- [49:42]
Shannon Sharpe
I remember what Penn State used to be. The question is, and maybe we need to re. Shape our vision or what we think they can be. Can Penn State ever be what they once were?
- [49:57]
Johnny Manziel
Yes. In my opinion, yes. Their. Their conference is too easy. You get two big games a year. Go win those big games. If you lose one, you're in the playoff. Every year your program's hyped up enough, you're going to be ranked in the top 25. You go 11, 12 and 1, you're in the playoff. All you got to do is play ball at the right time. So, yes. Because your conference is so easy.
- [50:26]
Shannon Sharpe
Well, Penn State might have been looking at Signetti, but he's like, nah. Indiana said, nah, y' all ain't gonna get him. Hey, we go drop the bag on him. 11.6. We make you the third highest paid.
- [50:37]
Johnny Manziel
He deserves it.
- [50:38]
Shannon Sharpe
Behind Kirby and Ryan Day. Yeah, absolutely. To win. Look, I mean, he took us. He took a. That's a basketball school. Indiana's a basketball school. Everybody. When you think of Indiana, you think of Coach Knight and you think of the Hoosiers and being undefeated in 76. The last. The last college basketball team to go undefeated and win the national championship. That's what you think about this. He's making you reevaluate how we look at the Hoosiers. So now they're just not known for that bicycle race that they have every year where the coeds ride their bikes for, I don't know, what is it, 50 miles, 75 miles or the basketball team. He's a hell of a coach. He was on Coach Saban's staff. He was a wide receiver Coach Ocho, but he wanted to be a head coach. He left, go to a Division 2 school, take $125,000 pay cut, got a daughter about to go to college. He says, but I want to be a head coach. He was. Look, you already know if you coach on, if we, if you were on Nick Saban's staff who didn't get a head job. Lane Kiffin, Kirby Smart. Billy Napier, Crystal ball. Mel Tucker, who didn't get a job. Dan Landing was a grad assistant head coach Signetti head coach who didn't get a head job if you're on the staff.
- [51:59]
Johnny Manziel
Right.
- [51:59]
Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson
And I got a question. Speaking of head coaching jobs and vacancies that are open. Penn State.
- [52:04]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [52:05]
Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson
What the chances that Nick Saban comes back and takes that. And takes that that.
- [52:09]
Shannon Sharpe
Well, they were talking about it this morning. 0. Ms. Terry say he having too much fun and she don't want to take no championship from their babies, which is Lane Kirby. I don't know how much longer Billy Napier gonna have that job in Florida if you don't win out from here. And that's not a very good chance because I think they still got Georgia on their, on their schedule. But I don't, I don't think Coach sa. I don't think Coach Saban is coming back because the issue that, that forced him out still exists.
- [52:35]
Johnny Manziel
I think you're going to have to get some of these younger coaches that are coming up in the ranks. The, the coach at usf, the coach at Tulane, Texas State has a really good coach that's up and coming on offense. I think you're going to have to find these young guys are offensive minded who put a good program together on a, on a smaller, smaller scale. And you're going to have to give them the opportunity and roll with some youth and that's it.
- [53:03]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. When, when you look, look what is. Does if he comes out of retirement oo and wins a championship, that doesn't change you. Everybody believes he's the greatest college coach to ever live. He got one of the lsu. He got six At Alabama, and he lost. He lost a Clemson. He lost to Georgia. So he's the greatest. It's either him or Coach Bryant is the greatest college coaches that ever lived. They're both at Alabama. So that's what we do know. The two greatest college coaches to ever coach is Coach Bryant or Coach Saban. Many believe Coach Bryant, considering, you know, a lot of those championships that he won was before integration. Coach Bryant did. So we get that. But I don't think Coach Saban. I don't think anything. He comes out and he wins number eight. Do you think more of him because he won eight instead of seven? No. And it's just more headache. He's like, you know what? He got a great job. He does an unbelievable job on college game day. He's great at it. He knows it. He knows how to talk on both sides. He can talk to the players and like how he was with the players. It's like when they were good, I was harder on my coaches and the team when they were good. I was easier on them when we lost. So I. I don't see Coach Saban coming out. But, hey, never say never, because that encompasses never and always. And I don't believe in saying that, especially how much money Penn State got?
- [54:30]
Johnny Manziel
A lot.
- [54:32]
Shannon Sharpe
You got 15 mil a year.
- [54:34]
Johnny Manziel
But they said, I mean, probably not. Listen, it ain't gonna happen. It really isn't. They need to go find somebody that has wanted that Penn State job who's. It's a dream job for them that really cares and can buy into what it is, because it is a good job. At the end of the day, like we said and spoke about a couple weeks ago, do we think James Franklin should have been let go? Probably not. But at the end of the day, it's a good opening, a good job. You're going to see some good openings of good jobs around the country, and we're going to see who they fill them with.
- [55:05]
Shannon Sharpe
Ash was saying that on college game day that Ms. Terry said, we haven't heard a number yet.
- [55:11]
Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson
Oh, it is.
- [55:14]
Shannon Sharpe
And I think Jimmy Sexton is Coach Saban's agent also. Look, I think he's very content with where he is right now and what he's doing right now. He makes good money doing what he does. He still has an office at Alabama. They still pay him. I don't think he wants to deal with the headache at this age in time.
- [55:34]
Johnny Manziel
Agree. Right.
- [55:36]
Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson
So what you think about you, huh?
- [55:38]
Shannon Sharpe
I don't want it. They ain't got enough. They ain't got a number big enough because you already, you already know how I am. I ain't got no patience and so it's understood. That's why I've never, hey, I ain't no coach. I've never been wanted to be a coach because I know my patience. I already know how I am. I would get mad at the guys, bro. We don't practice this all week. We talked about the first 15 Saturday morning. We went over the next 15 to that Saturday night. And then you come and f it up Sunday out the gate. N. I couldn't do that, man. I couldn't.
- [56:12]
Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson
I mean, I, I, I could just, I could see the program turning around under you.
- [56:16]
Johnny Manziel
What about this, what about Dion.
- [56:20]
Shannon Sharpe
At, at Pennsylvania? I don't, me personally, I don't know how much time is going, how much longer time got to coach. I don't know if his health is going to allow him to have one of those long careers.
- [56:36]
Johnny Manziel
Ten years, right?
- [56:38]
Shannon Sharpe
You know what I'm saying?
- [56:39]
Johnny Manziel
Yeah.
- [56:40]
Shannon Sharpe
You know, he got in it. You know, most coaches start, start coaching College in their 30s. He got in really late. Right? I mean, you got to think about it. He was in his 50s when he got in. I mean, think about Bobby Bowden. Was Coach Bowden when He retired with 40 years of coaching. He was only in his 70s. So I, I just don't know if his health, you know, dealing what he's had to deal with, with the blood clots, you know, standing doesn't help. The, out the, the, the, the burning of the midnight oil doesn't help. Uh, you know, he had the bladder surgery. That, that can't help. I just don't know if his, his, his help is going to allow him to fruitful, fruitful prosperous career.
- [57:24]
Johnny Manziel
I know I would definitely, I would definitely call Jimbo fishing.
- [57:30]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, Jimbo said he already packaged y' all money. So yeah, I go, I double dip. He said, y' all gave me, y' all gave, y' all gave me 84. Hey, well, y' all gave me.
- [57:39]
Johnny Manziel
I'm still having buyout money too. You know what, to be honest, Penn State may be able to get, I.
- [57:44]
Shannon Sharpe
Mean, Jimbo, get him, get him for the five. Get him for a five million dollar deal.
- [57:48]
Johnny Manziel
Sign him up for ten of them.
- [57:49]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, you're right. You're right.
- [57:55]
Johnny Manziel
Another great day in college football all the way around, though. A lot of upsets this week. A lot of people went down. Arizona State played a really good game against number seven Texas Tech today. You see the Miami Canes, they lose Go down all the way through. There was. There was a lot of upsets, a lot of good ball from. From underdogs this week. So it's a hell of a week for college football. I think everybody who was watching should have enjoy thoroughly this week.
- [58:21]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, but I don't know if P State gonna let prime have all them autumn jerseys and all them combinations. You know, psd, they got two colors. They got black tops with white pants and. They got white tops with white pants. That's it.
- [58:35]
Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson
That's it.
- [58:36]
Shannon Sharpe
That's all you get, right? The number 21 Texas Longhorn go down to Lexington and hold on and win 1613 over UK University of Kentucky. Kentucky got stopped. Second and goal, third and goal, fourth and goal. Texas goes down, kicks a field goal and they win at 16 13. Arch Manning did not have the best day, but they won the ball game. He was 12 of 27, 132 yards, no touchdowns, no interceptions. Quinn.
- [59:09]
Johnny Manziel
Quinn.
- [59:09]
Shannon Sharpe
Trevion Wisner ran the lone touchdown. How they won this game, I don't know. Ojo. They had 132 yards passing and 47 yards rushing. So they had less than 180 yards. The opposing team had over 400 yards and they get a victory. Johnny, I. I need you to help me understand how Texas won this ball game. Eight first downs, five of 16 on third down, 179 total yards, 12 of 27. They possessed the ball half the time that UK had it. UK had 26 first downs, they had 395 total yards. So they outgated by over 200. Possessed the ball 19 minutes longer.
- [60:06]
Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson
Yeah.
- [60:06]
Johnny Manziel
Somehow lost the quarterback at Texas throws for 44 completion on the day for 132 yards. 4, 4.9 yards an attempt. Texas is rushing attack this year is what we like to call abysmal. Terrible. They can't run out of a wet paper bag on 47 yards rushing, 1.7 yards of carry. And this is in four quarters of football.
- [60:35]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
- [60:36]
Johnny Manziel
I don't know how they sneak out of here with this one, but at the end of the day, you got to give them their props. Everybody in Austin's throwing their horns up tonight and, and saying, we snuck out of there with one. I mean, let's turn it over to the man that sat in the student section and watch.
- [60:50]
Shannon Sharpe
That's what I was about to say. Ocho, you had a very bird's eye view of this ball game and you probably thought, man, the Wildcats gonna get a victory over the number 21 race Longhorns. So you were there. We got Video of you there.
- [61:07]
Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson
We do.
- [61:07]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, Lord have mercy.
- [61:11]
Johnny Manziel
Yeah.
- [61:15]
Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson
Hey, hey, hey. You see. You see the rhythm? The whole week we was out there going crazy.
- [61:20]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm like, you know what? I'm like, professor. I'm like, cletus, dad. Cletus. Say, I don't know that fool.
- [61:32]
Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson
Okay, listen, listen. If. If I'm gonna. If I'm gonna go to a college game, obviously it's my daughter's homecoming. I need the full experience. I told the ad. I told Ray. Ray Oliver, who was my strength and conditioning coach when he was in Cincinnati, if I'm coming. Yeah.
- [61:47]
Shannon Sharpe
You know that I know.
- [61:49]
Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson
Yeah. Raised in Kentucky, I said, do not put. Do not put me in a suite. Do that. I want to know what it's like to be at a school of this magnitude and sit with the students in that section because I know they get turned. So they put me down there and watching and watching the game for me. Kentucky, as many yards as they did have had, Johnny and on. They couldn't score. They couldn't put themselves in position to get field goals.
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Jacob Goldstein
If you don't.
- [62:14]
Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson
If you're not going to score. And defense was playing well enough to where you should have won this game. This is the game that you should have won. This is the game that you should have won because you should have had more opportunities to do some of the things that Texas couldn't to me offensively, in a sense. I'm trying not to say anything too bad about Mr. Stuth because they had the whole crowd hunk. I'm not sure what's going on. This is my first time being at the game, but. But everybody, they chanting, fire Stoops. Fire Stoops. I'm like, well, God damn, what did he do wrong? But then I watch how they play offensively and what they were doing where at times, Johnny, they couldn't even get past midfield.
- [62:56]
Shannon Sharpe
Well, hell, don't look like Texas got past midfield except that long. Touchdown. Do they remember what Kentucky was before Stoops got there? I don't think they remember that, Johnny. They do realize that's a basketball school.
- [63:09]
Johnny Manziel
It's been a long time since the hefty lefty Jared Lorenzen. Rest in peace. Shout out my guy. Also my guy, my guy, Randall Cobb. It's been a long, long, long time since those Kentucky Wildcats have been in New Jersey. So listen, it's sec. Everybody wants to be good, but they need to get ready for hoop season. They'll be all right.
- [63:30]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I mean, look, you only go first of all, you Only gonna get. You only gonna get such subplayers. First of all, it's not like Kentucky is, is. Is like when you think of great football players. I mean, Shawn, I think Sean Alexander's from Kentucky, but where did he go? Ocho? Alabama.
- [63:50]
Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson
Alabama.
- [63:52]
Shannon Sharpe
So if your best players are leaving or leaving the state, you don't have much of a chance, especially if you're Kentucky now, you know, you are obviously Florida, they're gonna be spread out. You got, um, you got UF and you got fsu. And then some gonna go to Alabama, some gonna go to, uh, uh, Ohio State. So they're going to be spread out. But Kentucky, you've got to keep your best. Yeah, you can't afford to have your best. Go and make somebody else's program better.
- [64:20]
Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson
Better.
- [64:21]
Johnny Manziel
No doubt.
- [64:21]
Shannon Sharpe
And that's what can tell. Like I said, I think Stoops have done a great job given what he's got. I mean, I don't know. Y' all not getting Nick Saban.
- [64:31]
Johnny Manziel
Listen, we, we, we at one point in time, through our coaching search after Jimbo tried to hire Mark Stoops and College Station almost burnt to the ground. So I don't know what it is about him or what people think about him. I respect him. I played against him. He was at OU whenever I was there, whenever I was playing against him. I think he's a good coach. I think he's doing the most with what he has against. And that's what you got to give him credit for. But today, in this setting, in this game, this is one you got to go reach out and grab and find a way.
- [65:05]
Shannon Sharpe
You're right. I agree. I think also people like, well, Indiana is a. College is a, is a basketball school. But look at what Signetti did. So why can't that be us?
- [65:17]
Johnny Manziel
Signetti came in and said, listen, you know what I do? I win everywhere I go. Google me, bitch. That's what he said he did. And he came in with that attitude. You know what? I don't care that we're at Indiana. I don't care that I'm out here doing this. I, I'm going to go find a way to make it happen. The running game looks good. Their receivers can play. Their quarterback has game.
- [65:39]
Shannon Sharpe
Mendoza's playing Willy Rail.
- [65:40]
Johnny Manziel
Mendoza's. Mendoza is a G now.
- [65:45]
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know if he had to run that gauntlet. That's the sec. That's a, that's a whole, that's a whole different animal. Look, Kentucky, Kentucky has gone to a couple of bowl games. But I think, you know, when you look at it, what is their realistic expectations? Are they expecting to be in the College Football Playoff? Are they expecting to contend for national? I mean, when you got Georgia, Alabama, lsu, Texas A M, when you got all those on your schedule, Damn. But that's murderous row. Yeah. That's why it's so hard for a team, even the Alabamas, the lsu, even the top teams, to go undefeated in that conference. Yeah. You'll get a situation like Alabama has gone undefeated. You get the 2019 LSU. When you talk about one of the historically great teams in college football history, but for the most part, you're not going unscathed in the sec. It's just not going to happen. So I just need to know Kentucky, if I, if I, you know, could talk to their fan base or their alumni, what is your realistic expectation for UK?
- [66:49]
Johnny Manziel
Is it not 8 and 4?
- [66:52]
Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson
84 is good with a bowl game?
- [66:55]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, for sure. I don't think they're gonna get. I don't know. I don't think they're Gonna get the 8 and 4 this year, but I mean, can they get bowl eligible? What, what's, what's UK's remaining schedule?
- [67:06]
Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson
They, they're, they're, they're 2 and 3 going.
- [67:08]
Shannon Sharpe
They're 2 and 4 right now. And so they play, what, 12 games. So they got six games to go. So theoretically they could go 8 and 4.
- [67:17]
Johnny Manziel
All right, here we go. The last 15 years of Kentucky football, 6 and 7 lost in the Gator Bowl, 7 and 6 lost in the Gator Bowl. 7 and 6 lost Music City Bowl, 10 and 3, 20, 21, Citrus bowl, beat Iowa 5 and 6, 8 and 5, 10 and 3 in 2018 beat Penn State. And then you go back 7 and 6, 7 and 6, 5 and 7, 5 and 7, 2 and 10, 2 and 10, 5 and 7, 6 and 7. So you got a couple 10 and 3 sprinkled in. But really your median point for success is. Yeah, would be out of this for them in a bowl win.
- [67:59]
Shannon Sharpe
They just lost to Texas. They're at home versus Tennessee, at Auburn, home versus Florida. They got Tennessee Tech at home, at Vanderbilt, at Louisville. Today didn't work out. Well, tomorrow ain't looking much better.
- [68:17]
Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson
Listen, listen. Today looked much better than what people thought it would have been because there was a chance, UK had a chance to win this game. They just couldn't put the ball in position to score. Maybe if you can't get a touchdown, get three. They could barely get past the 50.
- [68:34]
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- [68:35]
Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson
I mean, and to Me, it just kept seeing like they kept running the same play.
- [68:40]
Shannon Sharpe
Draw, draw, draw.
- [68:43]
Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson
I'm like, what, what do we.
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- [68:44]
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- [68:46]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm looking at this. Hold on.
- [68:47]
Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson
No play down, clear. I saw, I saw, I saw a few dig routes and a few flat routes, but there, there was, there was really no creativity to the offense. And obviously you are playing against a very good Texas team. So I, I kind of understand. You don't want to go and put your young quarterback in harm's way. That makes your decision making is, is good. You know, you, you don't want to put too much on the plate, but a game like this, man, you throw everything.
- [69:11]
Johnny Manziel
Plus the kitchen sink.
- [69:13]
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho. They got Tennessee, Auburn, Florida, Vandy Tech, and on the road against Vandy and Louisville. Like I say, today didn't look good. Much better.
- [69:28]
Johnny Manziel
That's tough.
- [69:29]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [69:31]
Johnny Manziel
Onto the hardwood. Onto the hardwood.
- [69:36]
Shannon Sharpe
Jeremiah Love and the number 13 Notre Dame Fighting Irish beat the number 20 USC Trojan 3424 in the 96th meeting between the two rivals. Love finished with a career high 228 rushing yards and a touchdown to lead Notre Dame attack that racked up 306 rush yards. Notre Dame finished with 442 total yards. Jadarian Price also added 87 yards rushing on and a touchdown and returned the kickoff 100 yards for a touchdown. Damn, USC, they just did whatever they wanted to do to y'.
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Shannon Sharpe
Here it is.
- [70:18]
Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson
This is, this is one of the few games I wasn't able to see. I didn't, I didn't get the chance to see this one. Hey, how did the receiver do? The receiver from USC, he's really good.
- [70:27]
Shannon Sharpe
Lane. He had 6 foot, buck 11 and a touch. Okay.
- [70:32]
Johnny Manziel
18.5, 18.5 to catch the quarterback. 18.5.
- [70:37]
Shannon Sharpe
Two turnovers though. That was the difference in the ball game. Well, actually turnovers ball over three times. Might have been a different ball game if they could have held on to it.
- [70:47]
Johnny Manziel
Quarterback, Notre Dame. Notre Dame's doing what they need to do. If they need to go through and run the table and they're going and playing. This is a huge rivalry game for ever. Notre Dame comes through.
- [70:56]
Shannon Sharpe
They can't lose another game though. Johnny, they got to run the table. They're five.
- [70:59]
Johnny Manziel
Go run it. Look at, look at their schedule. Let's, let's take a peek at their schedule for the rest of the way. All right, they got Boston College dub, Navy Dub, Pit dub, Syracuse. Okay. They'll play them tough. And then Stanford that's the. So get through Syracuse.
- [71:23]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [71:24]
Johnny Manziel
And they do it.
- [71:26]
Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson
Hey, listen, football on Saturdays has been so funny. The team that. The teams that you're supposed to be. There have been a lot of surprises this season. There have been a lot of surprises.
- [71:37]
Shannon Sharpe
Notre Dame is known to give it up to a team. The Northern Illinois, and they are Northern Illinois. And teams, like, always tripped them up. Oh, I like.
- [71:54]
Johnny Manziel
I like Notre Dame. Look, they maybe have one of the best running backs in the country. I think they do. They have a quarterback who you go back and look at the A and M game, really solid. You look through the board, their defense is solid. They're a team that can get in the playoff and cause some havoc. Their coach is really good.
- [72:13]
Shannon Sharpe
I tell you what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna force that quarterback to beat me.
- [72:16]
Johnny Manziel
I am as well.
- [72:18]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm not gonna let them. I'm not gonna let them run the ball. I'm not gonna let them run the ball 44 times. And definitely you're not getting no 300 yards rushing. Cause, I mean, you run the ball 300 for 300 yards. That means you. You got the ball. You got to have the ball for the extended period of time. Well, they didn't have it that long. Only 32 minutes or 33 minutes, which is not a long amount of time were you considering. But see, they were 3 of 11 on third down, so 3 of 11 on.
- [72:53]
Johnny Manziel
3 of 11 on third down is tough.
- [72:56]
Shannon Sharpe
That. Because if you. You, you know, let's just say for the sake of argument, you 6 or 7, 4, 11, that means you're gonna be on the field for an extra two minutes.
- [73:04]
Johnny Manziel
Yep.
- [73:05]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, but I don't know, Link, you make.
- [73:10]
Johnny Manziel
They win the turnover battle. They have 91 more yards in penalties, though. But same amount of first downs. 442 yards. Look, it's another. It's another good win for Notre Dame. They're just trucking along, doing what they need to do. Let's try and get in the playoff and see if we can't make something shake.
- [73:31]
Shannon Sharpe
Johnny, thank you for joining us tonight. Taking time out of your busy schedule. Guys. Make sure you go subscribe to Johnny podcast YouTube channel Glory Days with Johnny Manziel. Johnny, enjoy the rest of your evening. We'll see you next week, bro.
- [73:42]
Johnny Manziel
Appreciate you, boys. See you next week. Much love.
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