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Nightcap Hour 1: Ant Man LEADS TWolves PAST Nuggets + Knicks END Spurs WINNING STREAK + Cavs BEAT Nets in James Harden RETURN + Byron Scott tells LEBRON to GTFO of LA
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Shannon Sharpe
CBS Tuesday is NCIS Night with new episodes of ncis, NCIS Origins and NCIS Sydney.
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Possible abduction of a Marines.
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Matt Rogers
We need to move anybody's potential target.
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Shannon Sharpe
We're gonna do what we do, and
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Ocho
we're gonna figure out answers.
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Shannon Sharpe
Whatever they're planning, it's going down here. Ncis. NCIS Night is all new.
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Ocho
It's a night you've never seen.
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Shannon Sharpe
CBS Tuesday, starting 8.7Central, and streaming on Paramount.
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Matt Rogers
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Shannon Sharpe
Ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y' all know who I am. I am your favorite unc and that is my partner and co host. That's the Liberty City legend, the bingo ring of fame honoree, a former pro bowler and an all pro. He's Chad oo Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button. And do us both a favor, go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. OO and I would personally like to thank each and every one of you for your eyes, ears and your word of mouth. Thanks to you, Nightcap has become the success it's become. And only because of you, we shall continue to grow. So again, thank you for your support and your continued support. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shade by Laportier, head over to laportierconac.com if you cannot find it in a state or city near you. It is a premium BSOP cognac. We believe the best tasting premium besop cognac on the market. We have the OG, which is the original bottle, which is the 750. Now we have the Junior, which is the 375. The same great quality, the same taste, the same smoothness. Compare it against other cognacs. We don't care the name, we don't care the brand. Just compare it and you'll see we have the smoothest, best tasting cognac on the market. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Oh, Joe, you guys have been asking for all the second half of the year. We're here. Nightcap discord has launched. The link is pinned in the chat Ocho. Ant man and the T Wolves Moving to the fourth in the Western Conference thanks to a 117 to 108 victory over the Nuggets. Minnesota beat Denver for the first time in four games this season. Ant man had 21 bones. Highland had 15 of his 18 in the first half. And Minnesota sweeps his three game road trip to improve the 38:23. Jumping to fourth in the West. Minnesota now moves a game ahead of Denver in the Western Conference. There's just two games separating the third seed, which is the Rockets, and the sixth seed, which is the Lakers. They got an outstanding performance in the fourth quarter from Naz Reed who looked like Kobe Bryant. He did an in and out, got an A and 1. He did an out and in and. And threw it up with a left hand. He got that his big three. So he played unbelievable. They got great contributions. Ant man didn't go off like he had been in the last couple of games, but they get with a total team effort. It was too much for the joke to overcome. Joke and Murray. But they got sloppy with the ball late in the ball game. Ojo watching this game, what did you like about what Minnesota did?
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Ocho
I mean, every Nas Reed obviously being able to insert himself towards the end of the game, I think that made the difference in it. Ant man not having the game that he's had the past previous games. Obviously he's been. He's been on fire. He's been hot. But he was efficient enough. I think he was 9 for 19. He had 21 points if I'm not mistaken. Outside of that, it looked. They. They look good. They look good. And obviously the goddamn Nuggets didn't help themselves turning the ball over and missing some opportunities and chances to score in vital moments that could have changed the outcome of the game.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, they didn't really get the contribution they needed from Cam Johnson tonight. I think he was over. Yoke is going to be yoke. I think he's what, 35, 14 and 9 Jamal Murray came on strong late. I agree with you. The turnovers late definitely didn't help their cause. But they're gonna have to do a better job because they were terrible when Yoke was off the floor today. They can't. They can't give up that count. I think they were right minus 15, minus 16 or 17 when yoke was on the floor. And he played a lot more minutes than. I'm sure Adelman wanted him to play in this ball game. And it seemed like every time he went out, which he only went out, he played. What he does is that he normally plays the entire first quarter and then they try to give him somewhere six to eight minutes in the second quarter.
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Ocho
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
And then play the entire third quarter. Obviously they're coming out of the half and then try to give him a big break in the fourth. But they had to bring him back a lot sooner than they wanted to because the game started to slip away. But give the. The T Wolves a lot of credit because every time the Nuggets made a run, they quelled it. Yeah, somebody hit a big three. DiVincenzo played unbelievable today, especially in the first half with those four three pointers. Nas Reed picked it up. Naz Reed picked it up in the fourth quarter, hit a big three. In and out, out and in. Did some great job. They did a great job of rebounding the basketball. They just got to do a better job because I thought, you know, to start the game the way the Nuggets start off, I'm like, damn, they might sweep this series. Yeah. And the next thing you know, here come the Nuggets, here come ant man, DiVincenzo. All those guys making contributions, and they ended up winning this game. But it's going to be. Look, I think for me, the class of the. The Western Conference is OKC Steel. They got Shay back and he comes back. They played the Nuggets in his first game back. He drops, I think 35. And he didn't play in overtime. He didn't play late in the ball game because they didn't want him to overextend himself in the ball game. They want to gradually build him back and thankfully they didn't need him because I know that was really tough to watch a game of that magnitude. And now they've already given you a minutes restriction, said we're not going to play over this. I don't care what the circumstance called for. Even though it was a close ball game late in the ball game and they could have definitely used him, they guys Were, oh crucial. Did a great job down the stretch. But looking at this ball game, Ocho, they're going to have to find a way. This is why they made. They got rid of Michael Porter Jr. Because they felt in situations like this and maybe he's. He wasn't a good fit because you look at what he's doing with the Nets, he's a guy that could legitimately be a one or two scorer. Yes. But he was always. He was never going to be anything more than the third score here because you got Yoke and you got Murray. So Cam Johnson is going to have to be. He's more equipped at that and his mindset is more equipped to be a third option because. Right. Pretty much that's what he's always been. And in that situation, I just think he has to be better. He hadn't been good in a couple of games. He. In order for them to get to where they need to be, he's going to have to be that third piece. Bruce Brown does what Bruce Brown does. I like what Kristen Brown does, but wasn't enough today. The give Minnesota credit. Minnesota played a heck of a ball game.
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Ocho
Yeah, I mean Minnesota. Minnesota played a heck of a ball game. But, but for me, and I think about mentality, I think about confidence, especially when it comes to any sport. Right now, the Pacific topic is, is basketball. And for Cam Johnson, I think he needs to insert himself a little bit more. I understand that there's a pecking order when it comes to shot selection and who has a green light to take as many shots as they want to. But I think players like Cam Johnson in that role of when joking is not doing well. When Murray's not doing well, I need to insert myself into the game. How do I do that? I already, already need to be in rhythm. I, I need to have some type of. Some type of confidence about my game where I don't feel scared or I don't feel nervous or gun shy to take certain shots. And there's only one way to do that is being able to get yourself in rhythm and find ways to insert yourself into the game even when it doesn't call for you to do so. And I think if he's able to do that late in ball games in situations like this, then he'll be able to insert himself and feel okay about taking. Taking certain shots where, where it means much more as opposed to the first three quarters in the game where it matters between wins and losses.
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Shannon Sharpe
Well, I think the biggest thing you mentioned confidence is that getting Into a rhythm early. It's hard to miss all those shots and then because you know, shoot or shoot. But the confidence goes a long way. And because he's. He struggled the last couple of games, he was over today. Scored zero points. And you. I'm looking at yoke. Yoke with 15 or 26, one of four from three, but he was 35, 13 and nine. You look at Jamar Murray, 25, and wasn't efficient at all. He was nine of 22, two of six. Christian Brown was 15 points. He played really well. Strother gave him only two points. You got. So you got two of your starters. Ocho gave you two points, two points, and they played a combined 40 minutes. You can't have that. Valentunas, two points. Hardaway Jr. Played well. He was five or six, three or four from the three. Bruce Brown, six points in 34 minutes. But they just gotta find. They gotta fight. They gotta find a third option because you know exactly what you're gonna get from Yolk. And sometimes TP Just gonna have to see. Look, we can't stop this man. Yoke is gonna get somewhere between 30 and 40. He's gonna get somewhere between 12 and 17 rebounds, and he's gonna get somewhere between eight and 12 assists. We just can't let him get 40, 20, 20.
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Ocho
Right.
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Shannon Sharpe
That's what we gotta stop. So we're not going to stop him from getting those, you know, 28, 29, 30 points. He's going to get that. He's going to get the rebounds. We've just got to control him getting those 15, 18, 20 assists because he's getting his points and he's getting other people involved. Once he starts getting other people involved, now what do we do? Because we can't leave anybody. There is nobody that's going to be able to deal with him one on one. So you try to make it as difficult as you possibly can, and maybe you let him go one on one and says, look, I'd rather give him. Well, the Clippers tried that, and then he ends up getting 56 and 13 and 17. But I can't let him get 15 assists. Ocho, I can't let him get 18, 20 assists because he's going to have somewhere between 20 and 30 points. He might even get 35, 40. So now he has 40. And he's contributed because of those 15, 20 assists, you know, at least seven of them on three pointers.
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Ocho
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
So you can't have that. But they're going to have to find a consistent third option. Cam Johnson has been in these moments before he won a championship, if I'm not mistaken. Second with the. No, he. He's on that team that ends up losing to Milwaukee. But he's been in. He's been in pressure situations before. And he's just gonna have to come through because right now he's not playing well. And I don't know what happened. I. I think he did have an injury. Ocho. So I think he might be coming back from an injury. But that. Look, they don't do excuses in pro sports. No, you don't. Either you do or you don't. And right now he's not doing. Go ahead. What you want to add? Oh, I forgot. And Drew Randall. Drew Randall played an unbelievable game. Now, he didn't have 25, 30 points, but I thought the 14, 9 and 7 that he did have came at a very opportune time. They did a great job on the glass, but I thought Drew ra. I thought all the auxiliary pieces, look, they're more. And McDaniel played well. They're more than just Ant Man. I know Ant man get all. Gets a lot of the pub and rightfully so because he's electric. He's a dynamic scorer. There's nothing he can't do. He can block a shot to save a game. He can hit a clutch three to win the game. He can play outstanding defense when he wants to sit in the chair and guard. But he's a consistent player. And we know what he is. He's a superstar. But when you get contribution From Randall, you, McDaniel and DiVincenzo and all those guys starting to chip in now, it makes them difficult. You know, Rudy Gobert was Rudy Gobert. He gave you six, eight points, 15 rebounds. And so that's what he's going to do. But I thought overall, I thought that. I thought Minnesota going on the road, the end of this road trip.
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Ocho
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Going to Denver. And that's a very. That's not an easy place. And plus they had been. The Nuggets have been playing well even though they lost a tough game the other night to okc.
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Ocho
Okc.
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Shannon Sharpe
But when you dealing. When you dealing with Yoke and Murray and we know what those two guys represent, they're as good as duo that we have in this league. They can put you in the pick and roll. Obviously, Yokin hit the three. He can roll. He can hit the mid range. Jamal Murray, sensational. You see him poke on Rudy Gobert. So he's sensational. He can hit the three. He could in and out, you so. But I was, I was, I was surprised how well Minnesota withstood everything that they had going on, especially the first quarter, to withstand that because I'm looking at it and they had like a 12 point lead and then they cut it down to like five and a half and they say, I know the T. Wolves up seven. I'm like, well, damn, that was quick. And it didn't take a whole lot of effort, but we'll see how this thing play out. I think they got about 20 games left, Ocho. Yeah. In the season and when you got the kind of closeness between three and six, obviously you want to stay in the sixth spot because you don't want to go into the play in. So you want to try to maintain where you are. You want to see it. Yeah, because right now the Lakers are in the sixth spot and so you got the seven 8, 7, 8, 9, 10 are in the play in tournament.
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Ocho
Right.
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Shannon Sharpe
You don't want to get into the playing tournament. You don't want to play. You, you want to play as few, as few games as possible. And, and playing those, you know, obviously it's. What is it? 7, 7 plays 10, 8 plays 9. So obviously if 7 wins, they're in. Yeah. Whoever wins the 710 matchup is in and then a situation like that and then the losers play each other for the chance to be at footage up the 8C. So you got OKC, that's 47 and 15. You got. The spurs are 43 and 17. They lost, got blown out. Today the Rockets are 37 and 22. The Nuggets are 38 and 23. Excuse me. No, the Timber Wolves are 38, 23. The Nuggets are 37 and 24. The Lakers are 35 and 24. Phoenix is 34 and 26. Golden State's in the eight spot. And it's reported that Steph Curry is going to be out another at least, at least five games. And I don't know where they get offense without Steph Curry. Portland is in the ninth spot at 29 and 33. And the Clippers fading, obviously, you know, they're not going anywhere. Kawhi alluded as much. He said, I think this season is already over. They're 27 and 31. So that's where, that's where they are right now. That's the rankings.
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Ocho
I mean, go ahead right, right now with the rankings. Where they are right now, where we are in basketball season with 20 games left. I mean, based on your expertise and watching the game and your knowledge of the game over time. If you were to take your picks.
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Shannon Sharpe
Now for CBS Tuesday is NCIS Night with new episodes of ncis, NCIS ORIG and NCIS Sydney.
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Possible abduction of the Marines.
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Matt Rogers
We need to move anybody who's a potential target.
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Shannon Sharpe
We're gonna do what we do and
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Ocho
we're gonna figure out answers.
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Shannon Sharpe
Whatever they're planning, it's going down here. Ncis NCIS Night is all new.
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Ocho
It's a night you've never seen.
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Shannon Sharpe
CBS Tuesday starting 87 Central and streaming on Paramount.
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Imagine that coming out.
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Ocho
These are coming out the west playing in the finals. Who would you have to this point right now? Unless some team just comes out of nowhere and does some extraordinary, you know, the last 20 games and, and shocks everybody.
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Shannon Sharpe
I think OKC would really love somebody to knock off San Antonio because they
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Ocho
don't have to deal with that.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, they don't have to deal with women.
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Ocho
Right?
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Shannon Sharpe
And those guys, that's the team that caused OKC the most problem. Me personally, I think it's probably going to be San Antonio and OKC in the Western Conference finals, but you never know because Ant Man, Ant man has been there and done that before. So he, he knows, he knows how to rise to the occasion. Nuggets have won a championship before. I just think the Rockets. I'm surprised the Rockets did not get a point guard. Chris Paul was there and maybe they don't want to. Didn't want to deal with Chris Paul and I don't know what that issue is.
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Bowen Yang
Right.
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Shannon Sharpe
But they need a point guard and they don't have a point guard. And I think that's the biggest thing, that's the biggest hindrance to them. Phoenix. Okay, book is out. Dylan Brooks has a broken hand. How soon can Those guys get back. Do I think even with those guys back they can contend in the West? I do not, I do not think they have enough firepower to contend.
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Ocho
Right.
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Shannon Sharpe
The Lakers don't play good enough defense to contend. We saw last night Austin Reeves get blown by Aiden. I just, I don't know. I just don't know about him. I just don't know, really. All things being equal, I mean, look, I, I think there's four teams seriously that could end up in the Western Conference final. That's Denver, Minnesota, San Antonio and okc. Those are my teams that I think can make it to the Western Conference final with. Realistically. Realistically, Right. You make me. You, you, you, you make me put some money. Something that matters to me. And if it's my money, it matters. Yeah, I probably, I'd probably pick okc. I probably pick.
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Ocho
Okay, the double double back again and win a championship.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yep. Yep. The Knicks. The Knicks snapped the Spurs 11 game winning streak with a blowout 114 to 89. Mikhail Bridges had 25, Jalen Brunson had 24. The spurs couldn't overcome 22 turnovers that led to 24 points. And they were out rebounded 54 to 41. Something that they really. They're not because of Wimby. Wimby played well, but, you know, they went on the run. I think the Knicks went on a 20 run, outscored them 22, 0. And they could never get back in the game after that. They never could, but they played. Look, you got Mikhail Bridges and Alvarado, he comes in the game and he's a spark plug. And you knew he would be that type of guy that the Knicks crowd would love because he plays with a lot of energy. They like that. A lot of hustle, a lot of grit. He's gonna make a big shot. He's gonna, you know, get to get you a couple of turnovers. He's gonna feed, you know, get the crowd energized. I'm not surprised that the, the nickel base love him as much as they love him. I'm trying to pull up this. No, I don't want this game. Scores here. Where is that? Oh, here it is. Yeah. Champagne, three points. Wimby was 20, was 25 and 13. But they shot terrible from the three nine of 34, 24, 20, what's that, 26, 42 from the floor. And the mere fact that they only had 89 points let you know, but they had OG had 12, Carl Cat had 12. Josh Hart almost had a triple double he had 10, Mikhail Bridges had 25, Bronson had 24, Diwari had 14. But they got overall contribution and look from everybody. Yes, they did. And, and like the, and you know, the Knicks want to play, you know, want to play. They got Mikhail Bridges, who's a wing defender. They got Josh Hart who can defend. They got OG can defend, right. Mitchell Robinson comes in, he can bang and he could defend. But they do a great job. They do a great job of keep creating chaos and, and turning turnovers into points. And that was really the difference in the ball game. They, they just kept turning the spurs over. The spurs couldn't protect the ball, and they're gonna have to do a better job of that. Look, they had won 11 games, have been playing really, really well. And to, to play at the level, I don't think they were gonna go undefeated heading into the the postseason. But I think they're, you know, I think the coach is pleased with the way they played thus far. But today was just one of those games, a nationally televised game. It's an early game. They don't normally play that early, Ocho, but give those guys, give those guys credit. They played. The Knicks played an unbelievable game today and they got to win and blowout fashion.
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Ocho
And the Knicks needed this too, huh? They needed this. They've been, they've been play. They haven't been playing too well, especially as a group collectively. The way they played today is how they can play it. They can find some type of balance, you know, not too high, not too low, but find a even kill way to play collectively as a group the way they did today. They can, they can, they can make some hay and make some noise similar to what they did last year. I know, I've been watching Stephen A. He's been upset with the Knicks the past few games and what they've displayed out there as far as the product is on the court. But I mean, shockingly to my, to me, you know, knowing that the spurs were playing the Knicks, I thought obviously the spurs would run away with this game. And the Knicks looked completely different, you know, a completely different team. You know, watching them play today, what is warm?
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Shannon Sharpe
Wembley. Wembley have seven turnovers by himself. With those 22, you can't turn the ball over like that because now you create, you get run outs, things of that nature. And like I said, the, the Knicks can cause you that type of problem if you turn the ball over because they got really good defenders. OG can defend at a high level. We know Mikhail Bridges can, We know Josh Hart Can. So they got guys that can clamp the ball and keep the ball in front of them. And so in Mitchell Robinson come in. Obviously Cat is 7 foot and he'll block a shot here or there. But that's not what Cat is known for. He's known for, you know, being a perimeter big that can shoot the ball extremely well. We know Brunson is Brunson. He's gonna get you buckets. He's gonna make clutch shots. He's as clutch as any player that we have in this league. So we know what he represents is that when they play defense like this, they to make they for they force you into turnovers and they make you shoot 30, 26% from the three. You're not gonna beat them. And they double. You know, they made 17 threes. You made, you made nine. So now they out they 24. They're plus 24 from the three point line. So if somebody's plus 24 from the three point line and they force you into 22 turnovers, this probably what's going to be the outcome of the game. You're probably going to get blown out. Yeah, it's really that simple. It's really that simple. And so give the Knicks credit. I mean, I'm sure Stephen A. Is happy about this. Happy but not satisfied. Right. Because he knows they got an uphill struggle because Boston has played well. Boston is playing extremely well. Toronto is putting that thing together. Toronto is better than people think. I watched him the other night, you know, Scotty Barnes and B.I. those guys, those guys are playing R.J. barrett, they got some scores over there. They're playing really well. Yaka, Porter Portal, they're better than you think. Now do I think they can beat the Knicks in the seven? Nah, I don't. I don't think, you know, when it's all said and done, it's probably going to be Boston and, and probably the Knicks. Looking at how everything is kind of like shaping up, Ocho look like it's going to be Boston and Knicks. If I had to bet anything, I like Philly, but I just don't know if, if, if indeed Embiid's gonna be healthy enough. Tyrese Max is going to be Tyrese Maxi Edgecombe is going to do Edgecombe things. They probably, you know, I don't know if and when PG is coming back, but if I had it, he was like, okay, Shannon, who do you. If I mean, who do you think is going to be in the Eastern Conference finals? I'd probably say Boston and Boston And Knicks. And that's a, that's an old rivalry that they had. Well, it happened last year. I don't know if we'll ever get those, those 80s rivalries like, like it once was. But we'll see, we'll see the Knicks play well today. And they needed this ball game. They definitely needed this ball game more than the Spurs. The Spartan needed it to try to keep place with okc. Because the thing is, like, all things being equal, like, I, I think they probably need the home court more than okc because the type of ball the OKC play, it does travel. They got a lot of wings. They got five, six guys that can defend at an elite level. Shay, you already know. Pilsing shay in for 30. You just put some in 30, you know he's gonna get there. Yeah. And so now you get a couple of those other guys that come along with him. You get Chet, you get J Dub, you get Wallace, you get some of those other guys. Isaiah Joe, you get some of those other. And Carusha, he always shows up in big games. He's gonna make the right play. He's gonna create chaos, he's gonna create turnovers, he's gonna knock down a big three, he's gonna get a big, big steal. He knows what these moments mean having played on that Lakers championship team and before that and last year. He was a big reason why they won the championship last year. Some guys just understand the moment and they can rise to the occasion in said moment. And Caruso is definitely is one of those guys. So The spurs look 11 straight games Ocho to get back in this thing. And they're the team that gives OKC the most trouble. But you never know in a seven game series. You never know an injury here or injury there. Change everything flips the series.
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Ocho
Yeah,
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Shannon Sharpe
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Shannon Sharpe
We're gonna do what we do and
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Ocho
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Shannon Sharpe
his return in the lineup with a broken thumb. Keon Ellis also played with a fractured finger today and still was able to put up five blocks and Steve, three steals. The Cavs got a defensive menace at the trade deadline from the Sacramento Kings. Yeah, look, the thing is that I think the. It's on this non, non shooting hand. James is a lefty and I think it's his right thumb.
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Ocho
Right?
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, he's. He played well today in his return. I think he had 22 dining seven. I say something like that. The bigs played. Played. Okay. I thought Evan Mobley played well. You look at this, this, this graph. I don't know if you guys can see it, but Detroit 45 and 14, the one seed currently, Boston 40 and 20, the two seed. The Knicks are 39 and 22, the three seed. The Cavs 38 and 24. The four seed. Toronto 35 and 25, the five seeds. So if the season ended today, Cleveland will face Toronto. The Knicks will place. Face the 76ers. Boston will place the Magic and Detroit. Well, we play the. Whoever wins out of the seven, the. The 710 matchup. But look, it's close. Obviously it's not as you know, what is 3 and 6. 3 and 6 is a bigger separation than what it is in the Western Conference because it's only two games separating three from six in the Western Conference. And it's about six games separating five and a half, separating three to six in the Eastern Conference. But Detroit, Detroit's looked. It's looked well all year. They played really well. They got an all NBA selection. And Cade Cunningham, I think Duran's gonna be all NBA selection also. He might make the all defensive team. Hell, K might make the all defensive team because he's, he's. He's that good. Yeah, the problem they're going to have is that dirt is going to damn near get a max contract. Five years over 200. Over $200 million. And it's better. It's kind of like football choice. Better to sign these guys early than late because they don't. And in basketball, they don't give discounts and. And teams don't even ask them. In baseball, they don't give no discounts. Ain't nobody with Darren Joe say, hey, hey, Joe, check this out, man. We trying to put a team around you. Can you cut? No. The owner, the. The player, you. The players association won't let you do it right. Ain't cut no deal. The only deal that he cut is that he says, you know what? I'm nice. I'm nice like boss give me 2 million a year and then the other 68. So he gets that. So he's only costing him $2 million a year. Yeah, that's why they're able to just stack players on top of players. You get a Brady Freeman, you get a Bets. The guy that just signed for 60 million a year, you get those kind of guys because you get guys taking deferred compensation. Now, they'll do that, but it still keeps the market up here.
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Ocho
Right.
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Shannon Sharpe
And so. But it's going to be very, very interesting. The NBA has kind of been quiet this year, Ocho.
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Ocho
In terms of what?
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Shannon Sharpe
Well, Steph has been out because you can see the shift coming.
- [40:33]
Ocho
Oh, yeah, yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Coming. The young guard is coming. Steph is going to move on. Katie's gonna move on. You know, and so things. Things are going to be different. Things are going to be different. The. The league has transitioned away from those guys and that's okay. The league is in great hands. You know, it moved on from Dr. J. Larry and Magic. Yeah, it moved on from Jordan. It moved on from Kobe and all those Shaq and all those guys. The league will be fine. The league will continue to prosper. Yeah, it'll be fine. I'm trying to hold on. I'm looking up, trying to look up these stats right quick.
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Ocho
Yeah, I think, I mean the NBA, obviously, the. The new guard that is coming in, they. They have a lot of excitement. Obviously players that. That put bus in the seats that a lot of fans regards to what team you support. You look, you look forward to watching them, obviously. Ant man, you got. You got Wimby. I'm not sure if you would put Zion in that due to the inconsistency of actually being healthy and actually playing.
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Shannon Sharpe
Could have been in there.
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Ocho
Hey, Kate. Cade Yeah, obviously in that conversation. Ja. I'm not sure what's going on with y'.
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Shannon Sharpe
All.
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Ocho
Over. Over.
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Shannon Sharpe
You got Wimby, you got sga. You got Ant Man.
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Ocho
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.
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Shannon Sharpe
You know, you got Yoke. Obviously, we mentioned. We got Brunson. Jb, JT is out. But. Right. The young guy. I mean, there are a lot of under 30. Under 30 guys that's gonna. You know, the league is gonna. That's gonna have to carry the league. Like those old guards, like Magic and Bird and Doc and. And. And. And Jordan and then Kobe and Shaq, and here come LeBron and KD and Steph, and all those guys harden. It's gonna, you know, gonna move on also. But those guys, you know, go ahead.
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Ocho
You know what's funny is, obviously with the new guard coming in and all the great names you just named, who the hell is the face of the NBA Now? Once the old guard moves on, who's the face?
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Shannon Sharpe
They don't have one. And they. They want Ant man, but Ant man said, no, let Wimby do it. Ant man want to be Ant Man. And, you know, Ant Man. Ant man want to go. You know, Ant man don't, because there's a. That's pressure that comes along with that. Oh, yeah. So you have to, you know, your image and everything and where you're going, how you can clean it up.
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Ocho
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
And I said, no, that ain't. That ain't me, because I ain't finna hold y'. All. You know, I ain't really trying to, you know, when I'm in Atlanta, y' all see that. The collab that's going on with Magic City and the Hawk, you know, I'm trying to be down. I'm trying to get on them lemon pepper wings.
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Ocho
Hey, the collab is March 16th. We going, right?
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Shannon Sharpe
You and Joe going.
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Ocho
Okay, okay, okay. Well, me. Well, me and Joe, we'll take. We'll tell you about it. Yeah, we'll tell you about it.
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Shannon Sharpe
I might hit Mad, you say, man, let me get one of them hoodies. Yeah, they got Atlanta Hall, Magic City, collab, hoodie that's out. I might take a look at that. But right now. Right now, Ocho, I don't think. I don't think they got to face a league and. And, you know, obviously, all things being equal, who they want to be the face of the league. That's not what he wants to be. And, you know, you want somebody to embrace that. Yeah, guys used to embrace, you know, Magic and Bird and Kobe And Jordan and LeBron and Stephen, they embraced it. And there are guys that are willing to embrace it. But the NBA is like, nah, we don't kind of want y' all to be the face. We won't. We want him. We want him to be the face.
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Ocho
Right, right, right, right.
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Shannon Sharpe
But I, I think eventually it might have to because it's becoming such an international game and some of your best players are international. If you probably had to take a pick, your top five players in the NBA, maybe top seven are all international players. So it might be your face of your league. It might have to be someone that's
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Ocho
not even from here.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah. Cause if you look at, if you look at, I mean, if you look at baseball, it's one or two players, it's Aaron Judge or Shohei. And if you take a poll, they're probably gonna say 90% to say Shohei.
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Ocho
Yeah, yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
But the MLB Ocho has always had that. They've always had Dominican, they've always had Cuban players. They've all always had, had players from, you know, you know those countries that
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Ocho
have dominated and been. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
And, and so now. And the Asian born player, where it be? Nomo or Hideki, Matsui, Ichiro. Yeah. They've also some Korean players. So they've always had that basically this shift that happened. Yeah. There were a few foreign born players, like I said. I think I read somewhere it might have been nine players that was in the NBA in 92.
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Ocho
Right.
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Shannon Sharpe
And now you might have. Every team that play in the Olympics might have three, four guys. Look at Canadians. Damn near the Canadians. Whole team is in the NBA. The Slovenian team have players in the NBA. The Serbian team, Jokic, team Greece. So it's a lot more so now it might be, it might, you might not have a choice but to have a Shay or a Giannis or, you know, one of those guys, you know, a yoke as the face. It is what it is. It is what it is. Yeah. Because right now Cade is coming. I think he's a couple. I mean, Ant man. But it's Ant man that has the charisma. He has the personality.
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Ocho
Personality.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. He has the shoes.
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Ocho
He's perfect.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He is, he is. He has a game to match. But Ocho.
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Ocho
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
You have to want someone to want it. He has to want to be it.
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Ocho
It.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. You can't force it on him.
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Ocho
It comes with too much. It comes with too much pressure because you have to conduct yourself a certain way. Not only on the court, as an example. But even off the court. And. And, I mean, if, you know, aunt personally, that ain't. That ain't happening. That definitely happening.
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Shannon Sharpe
You look at the quarterbacks, you look at them, that. That's been the face of the league. You know, you look at, be it Marino or Elway or Montana or Brady or Manning or Mahomes. You see Josh Allen, the way they kind of lead to that.
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Ocho
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
You know, Josh Allen, like, man, they really. I want to be the fat baby. We've been doing this thing. We've been dating for, like, six months. You want to get married? You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You want to get mad. Okay. You see the quarterback. They don't be wasting no time, Ocho.
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Ocho
Oh, no.
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Shannon Sharpe
So we will see. I. I think there's some American players that's getting better. Like I said, K. Cunningham is getting unbelievable. We got Ant, man. We got jt, we got jb. JT would gladly. Gladly accept that role. The problem that he's having, that he's getting pushed from a teammate.
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Ocho
Right.
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Shannon Sharpe
It's hard to be. Hold on how you the face of the league, and you're not even the best player on your own team.
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Ocho
Oh, some. Some would say not that much.
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Shannon Sharpe
That's. That's my point.
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Ocho
Right, right.
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Shannon Sharpe
And so, you know, normally with the guys, the face of the NBA, you got to be the one, y'. All. Yeah.
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Ocho
On your team. Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
So it's gonna be. It's gonna be very interesting in the next. I think. Look, we do all this talking, all we Want to, until 23 for the Lakers league. He's still it.
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Ocho
You think so? Still.
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Shannon Sharpe
He's still it. He's still it.
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Ocho
Right.
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Shannon Sharpe
You look at his social media, you look at his engagement, you look at who moves the needle. Right. It ain't no question. No question.
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Ocho
Understandable.
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Shannon Sharpe
Former Laker Byron Scott wants LeBron James off the team. Scott said, I think he should be his last year here. I don't. He don't have to go home, but you got to get the hell out of here, Ocho. Are you surprised to see Byron Scott publicly calling for LeBron's departure?
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Ocho
That wasn't AI. Byron Scott really said that. You heard me on. Byron Scott really said that publicly.
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Shannon Sharpe
That's what he said. Yeah. He's on Spotcast, man.
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Ocho
That's. That's crazy. And obviously, maybe, maybe I don't. I. I doubt that Byron Scott would really feel that way. Or maybe he actually does because LeBron is not the same LeBron of old. But. But, but. But Saying that he needs to leave LA and Luke would just be the only person there that. That is somewhat consistently outside of Austin Reeves and makes no damn sense. So why is LeBron being the one that's being called out from Byron Scott when all the other issues that even Ray Charles can see that they have going on with the Lakers right now?
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Shannon Sharpe
I don't know. I think the thing is I, and I don't know when this started happening that, that, that guys from an organization, great guys from an organization, would all of a sudden call out guys that's currently within the organization. And maybe this is a Kobe thing. LeBron was never really accepted, even though he really revitalized the Lakers organization. I don't care what anybody says. And I think the fans understood. They know that. They know what the. What, what the Lakers were Kobe last three years and when Kobe left, they know what the Lakers were. I don't know what, what, what is this?
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Ocho
Right?
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Shannon Sharpe
What, what. What are we Talking about if LeBron doesn't come, the Lakers are not selling for a billion dollars. Right? You're not, you're not going to be able to get Luka because you don't get AD. AD is not coming to LA. It's just, I, I don't. I don't know what LeBron did to piss so many great players off.
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Ocho
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh, he. No, he didn't. No, he didn't. I get it, Ocho. And a lot of times we, we talk about this on the show all the time, Ocho. These guys currently in the, in the, in the NFL get privileges and things we didn't get. But I don't begrudge them because we got things in the 90s and 2000 that guys in the 70s and 80s didn't get.
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Ocho
Didn't get.
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Shannon Sharpe
And they got things in the 70s and 80s that guys in the 50s and 60s didn't get. It's this thing called evolution. The game grows, the game evolves, and people get more things. It's okay. But this notion that LeBron James is the only one that's ever had power within an organization, do y' all realize that a man won a national, won a championship and Magic had a falling out, and he says it's either him or me and Dr. Bus fired the coach that wanted that one, an NBA title. Yeah, that happened. Lad Bird did the same thing. It happens. But for some reason, anything that goes wrong, that is the reason why. That's what free agency was meant to do. So you mean to tell me you want free agency and then Want guys to stay. If that was the case, what was free agency for? What was free agency for Ocho? If guys are not going to move around. Yeah, I get it. Teams trade. Team will trade a player like it's nothing. Don't perform. And what they do, even if you do perform, if they think they can get better, they'll move you. Yeah, but now players say, you know what? I think I've gone. I think it's going as about as far as it can.
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Ocho
Yeah, yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
But LeBron, there have been a lot of guys that's moved, moved, but nobody has caught the criticism. And LeBron James has never asked for a trade. Every time LeBron James is moved, Ocho, he's played his contract out. He played his contract out in Cleveland. He went to Miami, he played that four years out. He went back to Cleveland, he played that four years out and he headed to la. I, I just, I just don't get it. I don't know. I've never, I've. You've never. I've never heard so many great players, championship winning players take shots at LeBron.
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Ocho
It come with the territory. He sits at the top of the mountain. He's the great one. He's the chosen one. He's the one with the moniker the King. So what do they do? Regardless of his accomplishments, regardless of his accolades, you know, I mean, you people that they argue the Jordan LeBron debate, which. About the greatest basketball player of all time. So what happens when you're the greatest at what you do, regardless of what you've done, Even those that have played, you know, your sport, they're going to have something to say, whether it's good or bad, because what you've done is not enough to them, despite what we may think on the outside, despite what you may think and understanding how great LeBron is and what he's done for organizations to date, again, he moved. He moves the needle. So what's one way to move the needle on a platform? We want eyes and viewers to listen. You talk about the one all the way at the top.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, But I think LeBron is smart enough to know Ocho. He knows there was nothing he could do to topple Kobe. That's not what he. Just because I be. Just because I'm trying to achieve something, that doesn't mean I'm trying to take his statue down. Why can't we both regret. I think he understands that in Miami is going to be. It's Wade County. He understood that. Do I believe, Do I believe in Dwayne Wade knows that LeBron is a better player. Yes. But if you might ask Miami Heat fan, they'll say D. Wade.
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Ocho
Right.
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Shannon Sharpe
So he knew no matter what he did, he could not be winning US Championships to overcome Kobe, Magic, Kareem and Shaq. That wasn't going to happen. No. And I think he, I don't think he's, he was that naive. Just like, man, you know what? And I don't think he win it with that mindset. He didn't go with that mindset. Kobe, Kobe came there as a 17 year old kid and left as a fully grown married father of three. Four kids.
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Ocho
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Rest his soul. And Gigi, that's what he did there and that's okay. Same thing with Magic. Magic came there and never left. Magic was a 20 year old. Now most of the other great play, I mean obviously Shaq spent four, spent four years, if I'm not mistaken, in Orlando. Kareem spent I think six years in, in Milwaukee. But you know, you look at James Worthy, you look at Jerry West a lot, you know, and, and Elgin Baylor, those guys, you know, spent their careers there. But I, I, I just, I, I don't know what LeBron did to piss off so many people.
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Ocho
Hey, a lot of them.
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Shannon Sharpe
Ocho. Yeah, I believe I can like, I can like Travis Kelce without constantly taking shots at Gronk, constantly taking shots at, at Gates or Gonzalez. I believe I can do that. But it's almost like I wonder if he would if he was anywhere else other than the Lakers. And I love B. Scott. I used to see B. Scott all the time in the gym. We used to see the gym. Equinox and I used to see B. Scott all the time. We always talk hoop and he's a great guy. But I wonder if LeBron wasn't on the Lakers, would he still feel it's time for LeBron to leave?
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Ocho
No, absolutely not. Because I mean, his love for the Lakers, it'd be different because it's not on my team. It's not a team that I was a part of.
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Shannon Sharpe
When Kobe hit Kobe last years, did you hear anything about the Lakers?
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Ocho
You know damn well nobody would dare say that, huh?
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Shannon Sharpe
No, but no, I ain't talking about wanting Toby to leave, but he wasn't even mentioning the Lakers. The Lakers, they'd have no chance. Ain't nobody talk about Lakers and a chance to contend for a title. Nobody mentioned that. And then when Kobe left, ain't nobody mentioned Lakers are contending for a title.
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Ocho
Right.
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Shannon Sharpe
The mere fact that you even Think it's possible is because 14 with a 41 year old to get to the championship lets you know just how great this man is. Tell me the time in history another 40 something year old has played. And you know what? We gotta have a chance to get to the championship or they had a chance to contend for a title outside
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Ocho
of time leaving the wing until goddamn NBA.
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Shannon Sharpe
Okay, Not Jordan, not Kobe. No.
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Ocho
His longevity.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes. But look, he got his reason for whatever it is. I, I don't know. I don't know. So I don't want to get into speculating. There was something said. I don't know. And I know B. Scott love his Lakers. And if you played in this organization most especially he spent most of his years there. Yeah, but B. Scott, you know, now you know that there was a transition that when Kobe won the championship in 10, nine and 10, they didn't come close. They didn't come close. And nobody said a thing. Ain't nobody said so. 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18. So eight years, nine years. Ain't no like if they come close.
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Ocho
Yeah,
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Shannon Sharpe
and y' all had Kobe, so you had Kobe. 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 15, 15.
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Ocho
Hey, but they had nothing to go with him, though. Hey, it was the main course with
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Shannon Sharpe
no side when you don't need nothing come from The Brian. When LeBron didn't have nothing to go with him. Y' all say if he was great, he would win. That's what y' all did with LeBron. Now they did this when LeBron. When you never did that with anybody else.
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Ocho
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
You didn't do that with like, you see what you said? You see what you said, Ocho? They don't got you convinced of that?
- [57:39]
Ocho
Oh, no, I'm just being honest. I'm just being honest. I mean, Kobe, Kobe's the main diss. There was no size to go with it. There wasn't no dessert. So the chance of winning was slim to none.
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Shannon Sharpe
You so great, that's what you do. You don't need nobody who needed teammates. That what y' all tell me. Because every time I turn around, he couldn't win a championship without D. Wade. He couldn't win a championship without Kyrie. He couldn't win a championship without Anthony Davis.
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Ocho
Right.
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Shannon Sharpe
And you just told me Kobe ain't have nobody to go with him. Last I checked, Shaq's in the hall of Fame. Last I checked, Pau Gasol is in the hall of Fame. Last I checked, Scottie Pippen's in the hall of Fame. Dennis Rodman's in the hall of fame. So in other words, what you're trying to tell me is that no matter how great you are, you need a teammate or two? Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm just checking. I'm just, you know, you got to
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Ocho
have a two headed monster. If you got three and make it even and make it that. And make it that, that, that much easier. If you got three.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes. But.
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Ocho
But thinking you're gonna get it done. But one man, you got four, you know, just four partners out there. Just. Just going through the motion. It's not happening.
- [58:43]
Shannon Sharpe
Duncan. Not happening. Duncan had Manu. Had Manu and Tony Parker, and then the last one, he had Kawhi.
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Ocho
Hey, boy. Kawhi was crazy at. With the spurs, boy.
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh, after Tim. After Timmy left. What? After Timmy left?
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Ocho
Yeah. My goodness.
- [58:59]
Shannon Sharpe
He knew he. He knew he had to take on more of a role. He had to take on, you know, he. He was perfectly tipped playing the back seat. You know, hey, I let all. Hey, let Manu, Let tp. Let Timmy pop. Said, nah, bro, it's time for you. He's like, okay, I, You. I give you 25, 26 a night and lock it down on the other end. But I, I'm surprised. I think the thing that surprises is that people say, look, people might feel a certain way and might say things in private. Ocho. Yeah. That never get public air. But to say this publicly, I'm a little surprised.
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Ocho
You know what. And you know, we don't know us also.
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Shannon Sharpe
What.
- [59:40]
Ocho
There might be things that go on behind closed doors. There might be things that are said, they're going behind closed doors that we don't know about. That also makes Byron Scott say something like this publicly. That has nothing to do with. With anything that we know.
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Shannon Sharpe
Okay. Here. Scott also seemed to take issue with LeBron saying today's game is harder to play than in the 80s and 90s. The game is different. I want people and our fans to understand that playing 82 games in the 80s and 90s is not the same as playing 82 games in the 2000s. It's just not the way we play. The level of pace, the level of speed in which we're playing a different. It's a different game now. It's a totally different game. It is. It is. When, when, when, when, when b. Scott played in the 80s and the 90s, they might have two guys per team that can shoot the three.
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Ocho
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Now on a. On a 12 man roster, they got 10 guys that can shoot the three. And you have to guard them all. Bless you. Everybody is a viable option. There was no such thing as no stretch 5. No stretch 4.
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Ocho
Right.
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Shannon Sharpe
They have that now. The pace is increased. Bless you. Yeah. Thank you. The pace has increased and you have to guard multiple every. For the most part. Everybody. Again, evolution. Gods are more skilled. The guys are skilled. Yeah.
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Ocho
Much better.
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Shannon Sharpe
You have no Kevin Durant. You ain't had no damn wimpies. You didn't have that. You damn sure have no Steph Curry's right. Bless you. It's okay. It's okay. It's. It's a different game now. The NBA. The NBA is different. The NFL is different. It is. I mean, the game is become. The guys are doing. Ocho guys are doing more exotic coverages now than when, when, when you and I played. Yeah, that's okay. It's okay to say that. That's not to diminish our era. That's not to enhance their era. It's just facts.
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Ocho
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
You know, more, the scouting departments have gotten better. You think, you think scouting now back. You think when they started scouting players with Cleveland Browns, when they first started. The thing is that Paul Brights reported that Paul Brown. The reason why they timed the 40, Ocho, because that's how far the punt went. So how fast could somebody get down there to get him? The ball normally hung up there about 4.5 seconds, right? 4.5 seconds. You can run like that. Cause you're running pretty good. Dallas Cowboys and Gil Brandt took it a step further because Ocho, you know, they used to draft players and never work them out. They just look at the scouting fan. Look at them. Look at them in college. Well, you look like you can't play, son. Come on. We will draft you first. We're gonna draft you the second round, we're gonna draft you the 15th round, the 17th round. Then the Cowboys take it a step further, huh? Gilbrandt text stram they actually brain players. They put them through everything. Hence a combat, a combine styled workout.
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Ocho
Right.
- [62:55]
Shannon Sharpe
So you think. So you think the way they started scouting players in the 60s is the same way these scout players now? No, absolutely. They got these scouts on the road every damn weekend, Ocho. Every week they find somewhere looking at players. Yeah, they didn't do that in the 60s. As a matter of fact, they didn't even have a combine. They just drafted a guy based on what his college numbers were, how he looked in college, and they drafted him. So things change, people. And it's okay. It is okay. That doesn't mean that doesn't take away anything from the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s and so forth in a. It's just, that's just the way it is. It is, it happens. Technology changes. Ocho. Look at, look at the cleaves, look at the helmets, look at the basketball shoe. Look at the way they train horses. Things change. I don't know why people can't see that Evolution. It's gonna happen with your blessing or without.
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Ocho
Yeah, I mean, or, or they don't care. Well, one or the other. To complain. To complain about it anyway. Everything gets better over time.
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Shannon Sharpe
Tonight, LeBron moved into fifth place on the Lakers all time assist list, surpassing Michael Cooper. Magic is one, Kobe is two. Jerry west is three. Storm and Norman Nixon is four. LeBron is five. Coop is six, Kareem is seven. Elgin Baylor is eight. Excuse me. This is LeBron's eighth season with the Lakers. Obviously we know Kobe spent 20 years there. Magic I think from 79. I think Magic played about 12 years. Coup played. We know Kareem played, I think 13, 14 years there. And I saw LeBron is the second Laker to make a thousand threes, only behind Kobe. And obviously you would know Kobe played 20 seasons with that organization and was great. And LeBron is already second. Obviously they shoot more threes now than they did back when Kobe got into the league. Ocho, how do you think LeBron will be remembered as a Laker? You think that he, you think he gets his jersey retired? You think he gets a statue out front?
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Ocho
You know what, I don't, I don't think he gets a statue up front, but I think he gets in jersey retired. I mean, what he was able to do once he came to the Lakers and, and helping that franchise obviously win a ring, a ring that a lot of people put an asterisk behind because it was a bubble ring or whatever it may be because LeBron won it.
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Shannon Sharpe
Somebody else, they would have put no bubble behind it.
- [65:41]
Ocho
Yeah, yeah, I, I understand what you're saying, but people have to understand and, and, and take whatever hate they may have for LeBron and understanding what he was able to do during his time, during his tenure with the Lakers, with what he had to work with outside of that. I mean, being one of the greatest, arguably the greatest, the one or two basketball players to ever play this game, I think he should be acknowledged in such a fashion, in such a way based on that alone, whether he gets the statue or not. But retiring at 23, Jersey for the Lakers, it would, it would only be right and not to do so. It'd be ridiculous. It'd be damn egregious.
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Shannon Sharpe
I mean, imagine. Ocho, just think about this. I want you to picture this. Tom Brady is one of the three greatest high school football players ever. Yes. He goes to college and he's one of the three greatest college football players ever. And this the next big thing and he comes to the NFL. And even as a great high school player and a great collegiate player, he's even better in the NFL. Well, that's what LeBron James was. Yes, he was one of the three great high school players ever. And whatever you may have thought he could have been, he superseded that.
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Ocho
Exceeded it completely.
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Shannon Sharpe
He's, he's exceed exponentially. Nobody thought this man would be a four time league MVP. Go to 10 NBA finals, win four of them. Four finals MVPs. What? Two, three all star game MVPs. He's the all time lean scorer. He's the fourth leading assister. He's a top 30 rebounder. He's a top 15 or 10. A sits guy. I mean a steals guy. Nobody thought that. Whatever you thought LeBron James can be based on what he was in high school. And they've been a lot of great high school players.
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Ocho
Right?
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Shannon Sharpe
LeBron is Ocho. And his name hadn't come up on any crime blotter. He hadn't been a source of tabloid speculation. He's been squeaky, squeaky clean.
- [67:53]
Ocho
Yeah, most definitely. Most definitely.
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Shannon Sharpe
And still people find fault. Well, he flops all great players hunt calls. They do just like every time the quarterback gets hit. What does he do? Ocho, look to the right, you ain't gonna throw the flag. Yeah, something man, you saw that man hit me. I know we playing football, but he wasn't supposed to hit me. Yeah, he wasn't supposed to hit me. Hit me. You know, he's supposed to lay me down, you know. Ain't got no pillow. Hey, you got to go to the sideline and get him a pillow so he can throw me on the pillow.
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Ocho
People always complain. It just depends on who's doing the flopping. It always depends on who's doing the hunting. Then they turn a blind act. Depends on who it is. That's all.
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Shannon Sharpe
It is true. I agree with you though. I don't think he gets a statue. But I do think. I think they.
- [68:37]
Ocho
Oh, yeah? Yeah.
- [68:38]
Shannon Sharpe
Based on what he's done, you know, the all Star, the, the all star games. I think so. He's been the eight all Star. He's been what? He's been. He's gonna be. He was a seven time all NBA selection. So if you cut his career up in sevens, in, in sevens or if you cut it up in eights, He's a Hall of Fame player every eight. Every eight, he's a Hall of Famer.
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Ocho
That's crazy.
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Shannon Sharpe
And I know they're gonna miss him when he's gone.
- [69:13]
Ocho
Oh, let them tell it. The game will continue to go on.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, it's gonna go on.
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Ocho
But it won't be anything like that. We won't see anything like this for a very long time. Ever. If ever again.
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Shannon Sharpe
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. A guy. A guy. A guy that played this long and to play. Play that.
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Ocho
Great, great. This long. Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
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Shannon Sharpe
We're gonna do what we do and
- [69:47]
Ocho
we're gonna figure out answers.
- [69:49]
Shannon Sharpe
Whatever they're planning, it's going down here. Ncis. NCIS Night is all new.
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Ocho
It's a night you've never seen.
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Shannon Sharpe
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