Nightcap Hour 1: Anthony Joshua KO’s Jake Paul + Who will Jake Paul FIGHT NEXT? + Jake Paul has BROKEN JAW

Summary

Club Shay Shay: Nightcap Hour 1—Anthony Joshua KO’s Jake Paul

Episode Date: December 20, 2025
Host: Shannon Sharpe
Co-host: Ocho

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Overview

This episode centers on the highly publicized heavyweight boxing match in Miami, where Anthony Joshua knocked out Jake Paul in the sixth round. Shannon and Ocho deliver an unfiltered, passionate analysis of the fight, discussing the skill disparity, the controversy around Jake Paul's venture into elite boxing, and speculate on Jake’s future in the sport. The conversation blends expert boxing insight with signature playful banter, providing a deep dive for fans who want more than just the headlines.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Initial Impressions of the Fight

• Shannon opens by highlighting the significant difference in experience and physical attributes between Anthony Joshua and Jake Paul (05:16).
  • Joshua: Olympic and world champion, 6’6”, 243 lbs, peak condition.
• Controversy: Debate prior to the fight focused on safety due to the experience and size mismatch, but Paul was praised for entering the ring.

2. Jake Paul’s Performance—in Context

• Ocho’s Analysis (07:16):
  • Commends Jake’s dedication to training over five years, but stresses:

    "One thing he will never be able to do is you can’t make up all the years it takes to learn a craft and be one of the best in the world at it." (07:22)

  • Paul "started the fight on his bicycle," constantly retreating, highlighting survival over offense due to Joshua's pressure.
  • Both agree Joshua could have ended it earlier but deliberately held back to give the show some longevity.

3. The Limits of Training vs. Elite Experience

• Shannon:

  • "You can spar as much as you want... But you will not understand the difference in level of an elite fighter like Anthony Joshua until you get in that ring." (09:12)
  • Highlights that heavyweights can’t move like smaller fighters:

    "That’s why you don’t see 200-pound milers..." (08:49)

• Ocho:

  • Highlights how Paul was "overwhelmed" and nothing he did in camp prepared him for Joshua’s skill and power (10:00).

4. Handling Power and Ring IQ

• Shannon:

  • "Let me tell you what you can’t simulate, Ocho: that power." (12:58)
  • Jake Paul may have suffered a broken jaw from the finishing punch (13:22).
  • Both agree: facing a true heavyweight’s punch is an eye-opener.

• Memorable Comparison:

  • Shannon likens the KO moment to Rock ’Em Sock ’Em Robots:

    "He hit him with an uppercut and Jake Paul stuck his tongue out, bro. It was like Rock ’Em Sock ’Em Robots." (14:55)

5. Critique of Jake Paul’s Boxing Path

• Shannon:
  • Criticizes Jake’s previous opponents: "You’re fighting retired athletes... If you want to be taken serious, you need to fight somebody with a real boxing background." (13:39)
• Ocho:
  • Suggests even Paul’s trainers didn’t expect or teach the tactics Jake resorted to under pressure (11:00 and 28:11).

6. Boxing as The "Sweet Science"

• Ocho:
  • Compares high-level boxing to "tic-tac-toe"—a mind game, always trying to be two steps ahead. (22:57)
• Shannon:
  • Raises the strategic insights top boxers like Lennox Lewis and Evander Holyfield shared with him about "walking someone into a punch." (21:22)

7. What’s Next for Jake Paul?

• Shannon:
  • “Now that you fought a real boxer and lost, you can no longer go back and fight guys that aren’t boxers ... He has to fight boxers now. That was everybody's hang-up about him.” (41:58)
• Ocho:
  • Urges Jake not to “bite off more than he can chew” going forward (39:04).
  • Both agree: fighting a volume puncher at cruiserweight or light heavy would end poorly for Paul (41:13).

8. Respect for Getting in the Ring

• Both repeatedly praise Jake Paul’s courage for stepping into the ring with an elite heavyweight—even if the outcome was never really in doubt:
  • "I commend him for taking the fight. I commend him for getting in there." (37:08)

9. Heavyweight Boxing’s Unique Drama

• Shannon:
  • Emphasizes that in heavyweights, a single punch can change everything—"they can turn the lights out of the building with one punch." (36:33)
  • Warns fans not to be late to their seats when watching the big men.

10. Banter & Comic Relief

• Ocho and Shannon riff on possible celebrity fights, including Ocho joking about boxing James Harrison or Andre Ward:
  • "I'm gonna take James Harrison, I'm gonna take his nose, and I'm gonna put it upside down and sew it back on his head!" (48:11)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Ocho on skill vs. confidence (09:55):

  "To have a weight, gap and height gap that much, you have to be that much more skilled ... and he’s just not able to do that in such a short amount of time."

• Shannon on exhaustion (15:22):

  "When you get tired, you—I don’t care—Shannon, pick your hands up. I said, I can’t. They say, well move. I can’t."

• Shannon, explaining Jake’s limits post-Joshua:

  "Once Jake Paul fought a professional boxer, he lost. He can no longer go back and fight guys that aren’t boxers." (41:58)

• Ocho on why experience matters (43:04):

  "All the people with a boxing background...they will beat Jake because of ring experience. We’ll beat him on Spherics alone and being used to being in that atmosphere, in what I like to call chaotic environments."

• Shannon on the difference in levels (45:00):

  "It’s really tough when… you know, everybody gonna say, see, I told you."

• Ocho’s reality check (45:28):

  "There would be no way that he can beat someone who’s been doing it since they were young. That’s impossible… You could handicap the fight and say, 'AJ, you can only throw your goddamn jab hand.' He still would not win that fight."

• Jake's Post-fight Attitude (as paraphrased by Shannon, 24:11):

  "Jake Paul: 'I got my ass beat, but that's what this sport is all about... I think my jaw is broken. By the way, Joshua called out Tyson Fury...'"

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Important Timestamps

• 05:16 — Shannon introduces the Anthony Joshua vs. Jake Paul fight
• 07:16 — Ocho on why Jake Paul couldn't win, regardless of training
• 09:12 — Ocho explains why ring experience can't be bypassed
• 12:58 — Shannon on the unmatchable power of a world-class heavyweight
• 13:22 — The moment Jake Paul possibly breaks his jaw
• 13:39 — Discussion about why Jake's previous wins lacked credibility
• 22:57 — Ocho’s "tic-tac-toe" analogy for boxing strategy
• 24:11 — Shannon relays Jake’s post-fight comments
• 28:41 — What would’ve happened if Joshua hadn’t held back
• 34:03 — Ocho and Shannon on Jake Paul’s next possible opponents
• 37:08 — Shannon on the foregone conclusion of the outcome
• 41:58 — The “point of no return” after fighting a real boxer

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Final Thoughts

The episode blends biting analysis, humor, and respect for risk-takers, with a clear consensus:

• Jake Paul’s heart and entrepreneurial flair are beyond doubt, but the gulf between entertainment boxing and facing real-world champions is vast.
• Shannon and Ocho reiterate the unique dangers of “playing” at boxing and stress that true respect in the sport comes only by facing and beating true boxers.

Shannon’s Closing Reflection:

"Now that you fought a real boxer and lost, you can no longer go back and fight guys that aren’t boxers…That was everybody's hang-up about him." (41:58)

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For listeners looking to understand the deeper story behind the Paul–Joshua fight and the realities of crossing from spectacle to sport, this Nightcap episode delivers straight talk, memorable metaphors, and a few good laughs along the way.

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[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

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[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Listen, Unc, I mean, I know good and well, obviously, you know, I commend Jake Paul. I commend Jake Paul. He dedicated the last five years to trying to hone his craft and being able to get as good as he could at the sweet science and be able to produce and perform at the highest level he could. But one thing he will never be able to do is you can't make up all the years it takes to learn a craft and be one of the best in the world at it. You can't do that in five years time. It's impossible. It's almost, in a sense, it's almost disrespectful in a sense. If you Watch the nice fight, right? If you watch the nice fight, Jake Paul starts fight the fight off on his bicycle. He starts to fight off on his bicycle running the whole time. Because you understand if Anthony Joshua wants to apply pressure and really end the fight, he can do that, huh? I hope people understand the people that are watching. If you wanted to end that fight because of Jake Paul's lack of ring experience and lack of ring iq, he could end the fight right away if he wanted to. If you, if you watch closely, if you know, if you know boxing, Anthony Joshua purposely didn't cut the ring off the right way. No, he just, he chose to chase him instead of cutting the ring off. All, all.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Jake let him burn himself out. Oo huh? He, he let him burn himself out because that's not what Jake Paul normally does. Jake Paul is normally the hunter. He's not normally the hunted. So there's a reason why. And I'm gonna let you go after this. Yeah, There's a reason why you don't see heavyweights move like that. It requires oxygen as the bigger man. That's why you don't see 200 pound milers.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

That's why you try. What do you see? Marathoners, they ain't number heart and lungs.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

That's it.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

That's all there is.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Hey.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Because that's what you need. It takes oxygen to fuel muscles, Right. And you saw he started out running. Did you see Jake's walk? Did you see that body start to the, the perforation, how wet he started to get? I said okay, hold on. It won't. Hey, it won't be long now, Go ahead.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

I don't, I don't think he understood what he was getting himself into. Unc. You could spar as much as you want. You could bring as many people into your camp as you want. They can be six. Six. They could be six, five. You will not understand the difference in level of an elite fighter like Anthony Joshua, who is a world champion. He's a, he's an Olympic champ, right?

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yes.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

When you feel like him, when you feel that pressure with them, with them 10 ounce gloves and it touch you, or even if it don't touch you, he was overwhelmed.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yes.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

He bit off more than he could chew. I did, I commend him. I'm not. It wasn't scripted. It wasn't scripted. But I know one thing. Anthony Joshua held back. I could tell you that.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Oh yeah.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

There were many, many, many wide open shots.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yes.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

That a fighter at his level, you take those shots because the Opening is there. He held back on. He held back. Listen, I commit him for getting in the ring, but if Anthony Joshua wanted to turn up, if he wanted to turn up, man, listen, it would have ended in the first round. Yeah, listen, I commend Jake for getting in. There ain't a whole lot of people. Ain't a whole lot of people getting in no goddamn ring with no heavyweight that don't have eons and years of ring experience. That's a different ball game. And you don't understand it until you get in the ring. All the. All. Listen, I know one thing. I can tell you. I'm gonna say one more thing. The training, the coaches that are training Jake Paul, what we saw tonight from Jake Paul, the training went nothing like that. They're training. Nothing he did in that ring was taught from the trainers that he has nothing. But once you get in that ring with that kind of fighter, you overwhelm everything you, Everything that you, that you learn through camp is out the window. Is out the window. You breathing heavy in the first round.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Because he's running oo, he's not normally on his bicycle. That's a big £215. And to get on your bicycle and retreat, that if you notice heavyweight, that's why the only really heavy. When you go back and study heavyweight Soco, the only one that moved was ali. Ali weigh 205.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

That's it.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

You start getting these heavyweights. 220, 225, 230, 245. You get Klitschko, 66.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

You get Fury. Six eight, six, nine two six zero two seventy.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Lennox Lewis. Six six, two, 55. Now you start to get. And it's not a division, but they're what we call super heavyweights. Ready bow. Those big guys. Two 42, 45, 50 on order. You can't move like that. It takes oxygen.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Hey, I heard how your boy was. I don't want to bring it up, but you heard how your boy was breathing. It take a lot of oxygen to move. 255, 260.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

And you know what's funny, too? You have to be so confident and so. And so skilled defensively to have a weight gap, to have a, a weight gap and height gap that, that much of a difference. You have to be. Hold on. You have to be that much more skilled as if you were Jake Paul. You got to be just elite to be able to, to what you lack in size in punching power, you got to make up in other areas. And he, he, he's just not able to do that in such a short amount of time. Five years ain't enough time.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

No Ocho. And he's never. You talk about a guy, Anthony Joshua probably been blocks and since he was 10 or 11 years old to go all the AAU, he probably had. How many amateur fights you think he had? Somewhere between 50 and 100. Hey, maybe even more. And then to compete at the Olympic level and he's a pro. I think if I'm not mistaken, he's a two time world champion. So he fought. He fought the best. But let me tell you what, you can't simulate Ocho that power.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

No.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

You can bring all you guys you want to, but you got a guy that's 6 foot 6, 243 pounds and he's dropping. Hey, did you see when he hit Jake Paul that final time? Did you see Jake Paul said his face? Yeah.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Hey, he felt that kind of power.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Hell no.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

He never felt that kind of power wearing hair gear and 16O gloves or maybe 20 ounces glove if, if most, most heavyweights wear 20 gloves in train.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Huh. You. He should have used training gloves. Jake Paul said after the fight he think his draw is broken.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah, I think it is.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

What, what you. What you expect.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

It's a different level. I mean you bit off more than you can chew. But I commend you for getting in there. I could. I commend you for getting in there.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

But. But this is what people always were saying on Joe. If he fights somebody that's a skilled boxer, you're fighting retired athletes, that boxing is not the genre.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Right.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

You're fighting. You fought Nate Robinson and you fought Ty. Tyron Wood, who got knocked out again by. Got knocked out by Anderson Silver. Yeah, Anderson Silver. You fought guys that don't. Doesn't have a boxing background. If you want to be taken serious, you need to fight somebody with a real boxing background.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Then people were might to start to say, okay, you fought Mike Tyson. 60 years old and Mike Tyson. Nobody. Everybody knows that. They don't think Mike Tyson let his hands go.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

He didn't. What you mean?

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

I'm just.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Anthony Joshua didn't let his hands go.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Allegedly. He didn't let his hands go. We got to be on the safe side. Let's say allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. This is nightcap. But with that being said, Ocho, once you feel someone's power, power is different. If Nate Robinson is what, 165, 170 pounds. Tyron Woodley is what however. What however?

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

1.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

However much he weighs Anderson Silva. You got a legitimate world champion.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Raining down power shots. He hit it with an uppercut and Jake Paul stuck his tongue out, bro. It was like Rockham Sock and Robots. I thought he had about to come out. Y' all remember rocking soccer robot that blue and that red? When you catch him good and the head pop up.

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[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

When he, hey. When he jabbed and he caught, he caught. I don't know why Jake Paul thought being in the ropes would be a good shot, bro. You can't move.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Hold on. He can't move no more.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

By that time he was out of gas.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Well, he was out of gas. He was out of gas at that point.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

And you know this. Oo, look, I, I, I box for fun, you know, for cardio. When you get tired, you. I don't care. He's like, shannon, pick your hands up.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

I said, I can't. They say, well move. I can't.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

No, no. It's like when you get.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

If we, we've all been tired before, you might be jogging. When you get tired, what you do? You stop, put your hand. So if you do that in the fight, what's gonna happen?

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yep. You go, you going to sleep. And I, I know. You know what the funny thing about it is, is I know what that feeling feel like for Jake. I know what it feel like. My, my dumb, my, my dumb behind then been in there. I didn't been in there with Boots. I didn't been in there with Caleb Plant. I didn't been in there with Benavidez. I'd have been in there with the Charlo Twins.

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Just having fun but actually working. And we, we working for real. It's overwhelming. It's overwhelming. For one, we not in our environment. I'm not in my environment. And when they get inside that ring, unc it ain't. It could be. They mama, it's go time.

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They know how to switch.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

You can't then you can't like you know how you. If they're getting in the ring to train, they taper the gloves, they put the vaseline on, tape everything up. It's go time. Whether you five, whether you ten, whether your uncle, whether your auntie, you finna get that work.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

I wish people could have an opportunity to ocho like you have. Like I have get an opportunity to sit down because I had to sit down and had a conversation with Lennox Lewis, had conversation with Evander Holyfield. Just listen at them talk and say how I can walk somebody into a punch, how I can cut the ring off where he think he's doing something, but I'm actually walking him into a trap.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

And to see them how they can rotate that, they like, like, bro, he's like, no, you got to do it like this. Bud was in the ring, he said, nah. What you got to do what I would do if you're like this, I'm gonna step around. Now, when you step around one or two things, you gonna try to push me off you or you're gonna try to step back. If you step back, I'm gonna land a clean right. If you try to peel away, I'm gonna throw this left on you. To hear them talk how they can walk you. I think I'm doing something. Hey, bro, you walking into. You walking into a right hand?

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Or you walking into a left. And they can check everything because they know you throw this. Okay, if I throw this, he's got.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

To throw that right.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

How they take. They can take their hand. You got your hand up here. Knock this gland down and then catch you with it.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Come with something. Yeah.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

And the funny thing about it, you're not supposed to knock my gloves down. You're supposed to be, I want to get a clean shot.

[Rob Gronkowski]

It is.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

But we out. Look, I always. We. We thought this. And a lot of people thought it was kind of like Butterbean. I don't know if you remember.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

I remember Butterbean. Butterbean would knock up people out.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

And then he fought a real boxer.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Oh, yeah. Hey, it. It's different. It's different. And the one thing about it, too, for those who like boxing in the chat really like boxing. You know how you play tic tac toe.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

And it's a mind game and trying to. That's all boxing is, huh? For those. When. When it's done the right way, it's like tic tac toe. You always want to be able to counter and always be two steps ahead of the next person. Well, if he throw that, I know I could throw this. But if he throw that, I know this going to be open. Well, maybe the other dude got to know. Well, if that's. If I know I'm vulnerable here. So I'm gonna make sure I come back home real fast. I know we gonna shoot this. And when it's done the right way, it's a beautiful thing. That's why it's called. That's. That's the reason why it's called the goddamn sweet science for a reason.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

It actually is a science.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

You know, most sports are like this. Ocho football. Okay. They're in this defense. They're trying to do this, we're trying to do that.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

It's a constantly cat and mouse game. Hey. The question is, if you catch me while I'm vulnerable, can I hold on to the ball? So if you catch me with a clean shot.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

You don't knock me out, I take it, because what up if the line. You catch me in something and the line doesn't pick it up. Quarterback, just hold on to the ball.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Don't throw it arbitrarily. Kind of like John Mateer did tonight. You got to pick six.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Oh, hey, hey.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

That was. We'll get to that. We'll get to that.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

But go ahead, Jake Paul. After the losses, I'm feeling good. That was fun. I love this sport and had a blast. Anthony is a great fighter. I got my ass beat, but that's what this sport is all about. This sport has helped me so much. I think my jaw is broken. By the way, Joshua called Out Tyson Fury. I shook off the cobwebs tonight. And if Tyson Fury is serious and he wants to shake off that Twitter finger to pick up some gloves, he should fight me. Let's see how serious he is.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

I, like, I thought, I mean, I thought Tyson Fury said he was retired. Is he, is he willing to come out of retirement?

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

No. He said that on Twitter. He said, he goes, he said he's not a YouTuber, he's not a Disney guy.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Right.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

You want to fight? He said he gonna beat his ass in his accent. That's, that's basically what he said.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Okay, okay. I mean, that would be a good one. That'd be a good one. I mean, but it's.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Oh, Joe, this is years and years and years and being able to see punches and know what counters are coming and know if he's trying to walk you into a trap where you think you're doing something. You could tell because he was. He kept going down. He looked like he, like he's hyperextended his knee or something. Cuz he like. And he like act. Started acting funny when he was retreating. He kept like, like, come on, man. And referee say, hey man, if nobody pay to see this, pay to see this mess. If you want to fight, fight.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Nah, he overwhelmed. And then you got, you got to understand you. If you fighting the heavyweight like that defensively, you have to be that much more confidence in your defense. We don't have to keep retreating like that. We. He had his hands down. He had his hands down the whole time.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

He tired. You try to do one or two things, Ocho. Either one or two things, when somebody get tired, don't show what we do.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Hands on your head to try to hold yourself up or you doing this.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

So with that being said or you.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Clench up one of the other.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

He was tired.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Do you see how much that man was sweating? Do you see how much he was sweating?

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

I mean, his hair was dripped. I mean, he was sweating profusely.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah. You know what? You know what? The one thing also is, not only does he not have the ring experience or the ring IQ to understand what's coming when you're getting some in there with somebody that's much more skilled, much better, much more experienced. The two things you got to be able to do two things that would at least help. For one, you got to be able to survive.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yes.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Your breathing got to be on point. Your breath, your breath, you're breathing got to be on point. And you better be relaxed like a mod Like a. But do you see. Do you see how relaxed A.J. was the whole time?

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah, because A.J. is not moving around. He's not. He's not the one that's retreating. Hey, if you think about Ocho, what do they tell you? All right, son. Deep breaths. Slow it down. Slow your breathing down.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Got to.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Because when you get tired. What are you doing? Yeah, deep breath, son. Boy, it's hard to stay calm.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Hey.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Hey. What. What they do. They always. In the horror movies, chat. What they always do. Fall down, car. They get tired every time, and you stumble over your own damn feet. And here come Freddie, here come Jason. And they get you. Mike Myers, any others, you know, saw whatever else they got out there. But. But that was. That's the thing, Ocho. I mean, I'm looking at him. I'm looking at him. After the first round, I say get. I said, did they dump water on this man head?

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah. Different boy.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

But you got to look at him, though. Now. He's not. He's in shape. Yeah, but he has that body. He's not. He's not going. He doesn't have the body that can carve up like Anthony Joshua. You see how Anthony Joshua look?

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

You see those. Those caps on his shoulders? You see his back, the small waist?

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Jake Paul, he's always gonna have. He can be in shape, but he's always gonna have a high body fat.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

And his body just started. He just started perspiring.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Technique was gone.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Soaking wet.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah. Hey, everything was out the window again. I guarantee you. I know, I know. I know his coaches. I know. I know all his coaches. I know their background, their boxing background. They did not teach what you saw tonight. Definitely not. All that went out the window. What happened.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Man? What happened, Ocho? But just think. Oh, if Anthony Joshua had a. Hit it with the punch that he hit Klitschko with.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Come on, that's not fair.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

That.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

That's. That's not fair. He wouldn't. He wouldn't. Anthony Joshua wouldn't do that. He wouldn't do that. I mean, if you. If, you know boxing, he really hurt it. Listen, if you watch Anthony Joshua fight before, you know, he held back.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Oh, he got power. That's the one thing. And that's right. And most heavyweights have power in their right hand because he's mostly a jab boom. Yeah, Klitschko. Boom, boom. Now, some guys. What's the guy's name? Larry Holmes. Larry Holmes and Lynn Lewis actually hurt you.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Best jab in the business.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Heavyweights use the jab as a fine.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Arrange find, range finder. Okay.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

You're within reach. Oh, yeah. So you right there. I can come up with this. That's what they did. Lenny's Lewis, Larry Holm. They use the jab. They really trying to do damage with their jab.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

I don't know if Joshua is trying to do damage with his hand, with his jam, but he got that. And most heavyweights have dynamite in their right hand because most heavyweights are right handed. Yeah, but, man, look, I don't. I don't know where. I don't know where he goes from here because I don't know if you can sell any more fights because they saw what happened. That look, that's out of his weight class. Maybe he can fight a cruiserweight. Maybe he. But he can't. He can't beat a heavyweight. Ocho.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

He's not. He's not gonna beat any cruiserweight either.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

I know, but I'm saying you can't. But now, once you've gone this route, Ocho, they're not gonna let you go back and fight guys that boxing is. They're not performing. Ocho, if I'm a track. What up? What up? What Melissa Jefferson look like trying to race Asia Wilson? Asia Wilson in the wnba. She ain't no damn track and field athlete.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Right, right.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

So she tried to race Coco Golf. Coco got played tennis.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Right?

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

You. So they're not gonna. Fans are not gonna allow him to go back and fight somebody that. Boxing isn't their background.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah. I do know one thing. Jake Paul is a creator. Jake Paul has a brilliant mind. He's always had a brilliant mind. A very long time ago when he started YouTube. So I'm sure he will come up with something. Something that's going to be exciting, something that the fans are going to want to see. I don't think Jake will put himself in harm's way again because obviously you can't play boxing. And tonight was very dangerous for him. I like the fact that AJ understood, understood that if I wanted to take him out, I can. I can actually take him out when I want to. But what I will do is I will give the fans something to see. I will give the fans something to see until I feel like taking him out. And that's what he did.

[HBCU Event Promoter]

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[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

All.

[HBCU Event Promoter]

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[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah.

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[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Mmm.

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[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

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[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah, look, I don't know. I don't know how much Anthony. I don't know how much Tyson Fury has left. I don't know how much Anthony Joshua had left. If they fight, I'll watch it. Cause when you talk that much ish, I want to see. So I want to see somebody go to sleep.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

And a lot of times in the heavyweight division, they can turn the lights out of the building with one punch. Ocho. I think that's why people. That's why the heavyweight. Everybody loved it. That's what people loved about Mike Tyson. You better get your ass in your seat.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Oh, yeah, don't. Don't try to get no popcorn. Don't go to consensus if you want to.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

You just spent $4,000. $5,000.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Hey, for no reason.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

You missed It I hope show hope the undercard was good because a lot of times you don't really see the undercar. Like, you and I, they had like 10 fights. Me and you walk out there, they walk into the damn, they're walking to the ring. I said, man, hey, come on, man. You come on, right? Hell no. I want to say I ain't going out there.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

When they get to get start walking to the ring, we'll be there, we going. But I commend him for taking the fight. I commend him for getting in there. But I, I think everybody thought this would be the outcome if, if Anthony Joshua was going to take it serious and apply pressure. Now they went six rounds and everybody gonna say, well, he wins six rounds. Well, hell, I go, I can go, I can go four rounds with Jon Jones. If he's just circling, don't, don't grab me.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Or don't try to do anything. But if he wanted, like, you know what? I don't really want to go past one. It's over. And I think if Anthony Joshua really wanted to do what he want did in the sixth round, he could have did that in the first round. Absolutely.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

I, I, listen, I, I knew when I saw some of the stuff Jake was doing, you know, on his bicycle, and instead of Anthony Joshua cutting off the ring the right way, the correct way, and instead he just, he, he followed him instead of cutting the ring off, I said, yeah, all right, all right. I mean, he's on his side. I'm not saying it's, I'm not saying it's rigged, and I'm not saying it's scripted. I'm saying he's on his side in favor of giving the fans some that they want to see.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah, you can't, you can't end it in the first round. People gonna be disappointed. I knew had people because people like, man, Anthony Joshua, two rounds, he went three rounds, he went four rounds, he went five rounds with Anthony Joshua. Anthony Joshua is a professional. Yeah, he is.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

You ain't like, yeah, hey.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

But, oh, yo, man, I don't know. So what you thinking? What, where does, where does Jake Paul go from here as far as far as fighting? We know he's tremendous on YouTube. He's a great content creator. He's done amazing for himself.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yes. I mean, what he's built to be a fighter.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

I don't think this is the end of him. I think he wants to continue to fight. Yeah. What's his next move?

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

You know what? I'm not sure. What his next move is, but again, like I said, he's a brilliant mind. And everything he's done, what he's accomplished the past five years and dedicating his life to boxing and trying to. To build an empire in which he has built up to this point. And he challenged himself. He challenged himself and he pushed the envelope in fighting one of the best fighters in the world that is a heavyweight. You went down, but you don't stop. You don't stop. You don't stop creating content, you don't stop living your dream because you lose. Hey, listen, you get your back, you get your ass up, you get back to the drawing board, work on your craft some more, and you get back in there. Who your opponent will be this time, I don't know. Just don't bite. But don't bite off more than you could chew.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

But at 216, I mean, can he fight Bobble Baval? Yeah.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

You trying to get him kicked.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Well, but Ocho, I don't know how he goes back and fight people that aren't boxers again. That was great to build it up. Okay. That's because that's what you do, Ocho. Even Sugar, even, even professional fighters. Yeah, you give them somebody and they can increase, increase, increase. Yeah, once. Once Sugar Ray got into the fight and he. I think he took the bell from Wilford Benitez. Look and see who Sugar Ray took the bell for. I think it was Benitez. But anyway, if he lost, it's like, okay, when he lost to Duran, he couldn't go back down and fought the guys that he was coming up to get in that position.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Right.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

So how does, so how does he. It was. Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry, go ahead.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

I'm gonna say you, you can't. You can't put him in there with Baval. He get himself killed.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

But he has to fight somebody, okay? He's too.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

He get himself killed. Now, hold on, you got. Now you, you tell him to get in there with a pressure fighter that's gonna come forward and then that's not gonna be lenient with you. Like Anthony Joshua. Joshua, was he gonna cut off the ring. He gonna get you out of there in the first round. That ain't happening. Anthony Joshua was leaning. We gonna give the people something, man. Bavar is taking your ass out in the first 10 seconds. One more thing.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Go ahead.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Baval is a volume puncher.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yes.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

He's gonna be overwhelmed. It's gonna be over. He's gonna be over in 10 seconds.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

It's good that he fought a heavyweight, because heavyweights don't normally throw a whole lot of punches. The problem. The problem is.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Bingo.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

The problem is as he. If he were to go down in weight, the punch volume increases.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Increases. Yeah.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

So now what is he, what does he do? So I'm trying to think, like I said, it had to be cruiserweight, it had to be light, heavy. Cause like, so, so where does he go? He can't fight Ocho. He cannot fight another heavyweight. Who is he gonna fight? He gonna fight Deontay Wilder?

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

No. Oh, you try.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

No, I'm just. That's what I'm saying.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Oh, no, I, I, I, I don't know. I don't know where you go from here.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

No, I'm not saying comparing his journey. I'm saying once Jake Paul fought a professional boxer, he lost. He can no longer go back and fight guys that aren't boxers. He can't fight a Nate Robinson again. He can't fight a Woodley again. He can't fight an Anderson Silver again. He has to fight boxers. That was everybody's. That was everybody hang up about him. They say you're a professional boxer, but you not. You're fighting everybody but professional boxers.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Right.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Even if they're not, Even if they haven't won a title, at least find somebody, Ocho, that all they've done is lost. They got like 30 fights. They lost 30 of them.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Only one two. Or maybe, maybe he's. All he done is lost.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

You've got to fight somebody like that, Ocho. I just don't know how he can go back and fight somebody that doesn't have boxing background.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

That's not unfair. All the people with a boxing background, like amateurs, amateurs that are skilled on whether cruiserweight, light heavyweights or heavyweights, they will beat Jake because of ring experience.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yes.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

We'll beat him on Spherics alone. And being used to being in. Being in that atmosphere, in what I like to call chaotic environments. But when the lights is on and people are watching and they sit in the stands and them lights is bright and the camera's on, Unc is different.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

It is.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

It's different.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

You know, it's different because we played a game of football, is you practice one thing, but when you actually get into the game and that guy putting hands on you and they taking your ass to the ground and they hold him up, dog, hold him up. That's a whole different animal. And, and as the game get late in the ball game.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Now every catch matters, every possession matters, every Play call matters. The anticipation, you feel it. And don't. Don't let anybody.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Being in that situation before, it definitely helps because you kind of know what to expect. But there's a. There's a rise in anxiety when you down six and you got the ball and you got a minute and a half or you down three and you need to get in field goal range.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Right.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

There's a difference in tempo. There's a difference in play. The crowd knows it. It's more everybody. It seems like the yells are louder, and it's like a pass is dropped or a sack or something. You can feel it. So I can just imagine what Jake Paul being in that situation like. Damn, he bigger than I thought, man.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yeah.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

The punches hurt more than I thought.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Hey, boy. Boy, it's different, bro. It's different. And I. I know. It's just like, I understand that overwhelming feeling. I took that ring walk.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Here's the thing. Oh, you. Could we come out of a team. You took it by yourself.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Absolutely by yourself. You and your thoughts.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Hey, that's it. Oh, that's tough, boy. That's tough.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

I'm trying. It's. It. It's tough, man. It's really tough when. You know, everybody gonna say, see, I told you.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Hold on. But nobody should say that because we already knew what would happen if. If he was to fight somebody elite. We. We understand that. We know training for five years, even if you dedicate your life, which he did, to the sport of boxing, there would be no way that he can beat someone who's been doing it since they were young. That's impossible. That's not happening. You could handicap the fight and say, aj Anthony Joshua, you can only throw your goddamn jab hand. He still would not win that fight. Yeah, you just wouldn't. It's impossible. But again, I do commend Jake for getting in there. I. I do. And if you watch. If you watch Anthony Joshua, if you know boxing, you can tell, you know, he wasn't on 10.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

He was about.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

He was on 6. Scared. I mean, as far as pressure and. And. And volume, punching and letting and letting shots go where openings are. I mean, openings are wide open. Wide open.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Oh, yeah.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

And you not throwing. I'm looking.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

When the guy got his hands down. Oh, no. He didn't have his guard up like after the first minute of the fight of trying to go side to side. That's. That's cute and all.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

I told you, the first thing I drink the first time they put me on the clock. O. Joke.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Oh, no.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

I better rap bouncing, but.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

2:55, right? Hey, don't. Don't do the bounce. You go tie yourself out. Yeah, man, I'm good. Hey, I feel like I'm Sugar Ray. I'm about that thing like Sugar Ray. Boy, about a minute and a half.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

In, you were tired.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Because what he doing, Ocho? I'm in the ring, but he got the m. One, two.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

One, two, three.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

You know, Joke.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah. You feeling good?

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Hey, you know that'll throw them.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

I say. Damn. That horn ain't going off yet.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah. What the hell ate them three minutes ain't no joke, bro.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Oh, do I had to look over there. I see the clock is still ticking. 141, 142.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Hey, hey, that's a bull. Hey, that three minutes. That three minutes is crazy.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Hell, yeah. Cause you gotta constantly move. Now think about it, Ocho. Ain't nobody chasing me. So imagine.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Imagine somebody trying to knock your head off. Now you not. Hey, Hey, hey. I think I'm trying to think. What about. Let me see. Maybe. Maybe I could. Maybe Jake could fight me next.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah, there's too much weight disparity.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

I'm 205 right now.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

No, you're not 205. That man is 216. You're probably 185, 190, and you're not gonna get it sanctioned. It might be. It might be an exhibition.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Wait, let me take this off. What you talking tripping? Well, you don't see how big I am.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

I see you still. You still under £200.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

You know what? Hey, you know what? Hey, you know what? I don't want Jake Paul. I want James Harrison. I'm gonna beat his ass. I'm gonna rearrange his face. Matter of fact. Hey, hey, James Harrison, I hope you see this. When I see you and I know you got an iPhone, I' ma rearrange your face where your phone ain't gonna recognize FaceTime ID. That's what I'm gonna do to you. That's what. That's. That's what I'm gonna do to you. Huh? Hey, I'm. Hey, I'm gonna take James Harrison, I'm gonna take his nose, and I'm gonna put it upside down and sew it back on his head. Yeah, that's. I'm. Oh.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

But I think the fight ended. But, man, do you know all the money was being bet on Jake Paul?

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Nah.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

I think. I think.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yes. I think. Drake.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Drake bet you wanted Drake, right?

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

200.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah, he bet something.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah, he tripping.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

And I know a bad. Please.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Hey, see. Hey, hey.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah, yeah, but see, he the 1.1.25. You give away money.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah, man, you. You know, you know, you know how to. You know, that's the big boys. You know how they do. You know how they do. Hey, hey, you know what I do? I. You know what I do want, though? Huh?

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

What you want?

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Because I've been doing this now the past, what, seven years?

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

I really need. I really need that fight with Andre Ward, huh? No, no, you're not understand. You're not understanding me. I really do. On. On a serious note. And that. That's on. That's on. That's on my mama. That's on my mama. Rest in peace. And it's not about trying to beat him. It's about showing and proving when you dedicate yourself to something how good you can get at it.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

So what's he supposed to be? So let me ask you a question.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Why it's not about winning. What's he supposed to do?

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Oh, he gonna get his ass whooped. He gonna get touched up. See, he see Andre Ward, light skin. You know, they bruise easy.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Andre Ward is a world champ. Ain't never been defeated.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

I'm a world champ, too. You heard me. I'm a world champ.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

You're a world champ. Ish talker.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Hey, hey, that. That one thing about it. I am. I did that. That I could. I. Hey, I'm with you when you're right.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Before you go. Before you go. Hey, who is that from? From. Was it 520? Hey, chat, who was that that said they won the box from. From Gil Podcast. Somebody. Somebody, huh?

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Oh, Rashad McCants.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah. I'm gonna beat his ass. He shouldn't have said, hey, Rashad McCants. Hey, boy, you barking up the right tree, and I ain't even got no bark.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Hey, he talking about he gotta. He got a pool cue. He said he got a bowling ball. He got a boxing glove. I'm like, damn, do you have a home? You got all that in your car?

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Hey, matter of fact, another thing we need to add to the podcast, Olympics.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

If.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

If it's to happen, if somebody, I'm.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Oh, we're gonna make it. It's gonna happen.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Oh, it's gonna happen. But you know what? You know, we gotta add to that.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah, it's like what you call them. It's like, what's that with Jennifer Lawrence in it? What was that? Hunger Games. Yeah, it's like Hunger Games, you know.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

We need to add paintball team. Teams of paintball team to three. Team.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

We ain't got but three. That's all we need, though. So, I mean, they can only have. So each team. Three.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Three. Okay. But that. That'd be dope. A paint. Paintball competition as well. It's so much we could do, man. That.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

That's.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

That's gonna be dope.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah, we go. Me and you gonna do paintball first. What you mean your ball ass head?

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Me? No, no, I got, you know, I got military background training.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

That's okay. So therefore, hey, I'm gonna give you a military funeral too. I'm gonna have about there playing hard.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Hey, you know. Hey, you know. You know, I. I used to playing paintball competitions down here in Doral in Miami, right?

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Okay. Yeah, I ain't do all that.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Oh, that. That's what. That's. That's why I mentioned paintball. I'm trying to name things that I know I can. I can do.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

That's all right. I'll be like sniper.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Nah, that. That ain't gonna work. That ain't gonna work. That's what I do. I asked my baby. Baby, come here, come here. Come here. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I got. I got 185 here with me.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Oh, look. What's up?

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Say hi. You good? Yeah. Hey, our Christmas start today.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Christmas start today?

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Well, not really. I mean, you know, all the. All the babies. All the babies come in.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

We got when they'll all be there by when?

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Shoot tomorrow. French rides. Kennedy Cha Cha. G. Shot a my daughter.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

You bringing everybody over? Oh, you bringing in? You know, the moms come too.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

No, no, no, we don't do that. We don't do that. Hey, it's.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yes.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah. Hey, what is thing here? Hey, this is for kids only. Kids only. Listen, I mean, I thought you break.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

A couple of exes, everybody, hey, we break bread, say hey, we good. We move past that. Ain't no anger with Ocho. Ain't nothing loving.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

I know ain't ain't number love. Ain't. It's never no anger. It's never that. But this. This is. This is for me and my babies.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Okay?

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

That's it. Ain't no. No. No parents, no nothing.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

I got a special guest coming, too. Who? My brother. It's gonna be the first. It's gonna be the first time in 38 years we spent Christmas together. Hey, last time we spent Christmas together was 1987.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

God damn.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Hey, that.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

That's dope. Where y' all gonna be at, huh? Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Okay.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

He covered it. He coming in. I was like, hey, bro, I'm gonna. Come on. I had a feeling. I had a feeling that he was coming because he was asked, man, you know what. What you doing? Like, working. You ain't going nowhere. Yeah, to work. He's like, well, I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I want to come out there and. All right, come on. There it is. He coming in. First time in 38 years.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

As though. What y' all gonna do?

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Y'. All.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

I mean, y' all gotta get out and do something, man.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

You know, I show him around, you know, I said, you know, put them. Put him on the back. He can smoke his cigars.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Put his feet in the pool, whatever.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Oh, you got a pool. Yeah. But you know what? My family now, he like to drive, like. But my sister, right? My sister have Shelly say, hey, My sister Uber everything. So she'll get. She like ramen noodles. She get a loaf of bread. She'll get two bags of chips. She'll get some soda. She get Jimmy Dean sausage, stuff like that, right? That's it. My sister don't want to go nowhere. My sister don't want anything. Hey.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Right.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Well, something. No, I'm good. You want to go somewhere? No, I'm good.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Chilling.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

So my bro, like, I asked him, I said, well, what you want? He's like, hey, whatever you eat gonna be good with me, bro.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

That's how we are. We. Yeah, we. Yeah, we don't. We don't like the inconvenience. We don't like the inconvenience, right? So he. They look at it like, if. If I say, well, let's do something, I'm. They're inconveniencing me, right? I look at. If I ask them to do something, I'm inconveniencing them. That's just the way we are. So. But no, it's gonna be. I'm excited. I'm. You know, I kind of.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Like.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

I said, I had a feeling, Ocho, considering everything that that has gone on in 2025, I had a feeling because he told myself before he told me, he told my sister, and I told my sister. I think it was yesterday, day before, I said, you know, spank say he coming out here. He said. He told me. He said. He told me that. But you make sure you call me when he get there.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

That's dope, man. You know, I got all. All us. You Know we got our days lined up, so everybody be here by tomorrow. Saturday we going to. I don't know if you. I'm sure they probably do. We're going to Sanders Enchanted Forest. It's like a big park. You have all the lights up. You can take the picture with Santa Claus.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah, okay.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah, stuff like that. Then Sunday, we're gonna all go to the, to the Dolphins game.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Okay.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah, I'm taking all the kids to the Dolphins game and you know, Monday we. We gonna do what you want. What are we gonna do? Horseback riding. Yeah, they. Man, they love riding horses. Man, all the babies ride horses, so we'll probably do that.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

I asked him did he want some fruitcake. He like, nah, I'm good.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Okay.

[Commercial Announcer]

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[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Hey, I ain't had fruitcake in years. Huh?

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

I don't care to have none either. My grandma used to make it. My grandma used to make it in a big old thing by this big around, don't you?

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

My grandma too.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

And then she would put wine on it, put a towel over it and put it in a cool place.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

So it stayed moist. Now, we grew up about, I don't know, about 15 miles from the fruitcake capital of the world, which is Claxton. They make more fruitcakes than anybody anywhere in the world, Right. My uncles work there, so they used to bring us them fruitcake. It's just something about them green and red ass cherries that I can't get past.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Inside. Inside the food cake.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

I ain't had that in so long, man.

[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

Yeah, I'm good. I don't want it either.

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[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

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[HBCU Event Promoter]

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[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

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[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

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[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

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[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

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[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

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[Ocho (Co-host of Night Cap Podcast)]

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[Shannon (Host of Night Cap Podcast)]

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