Nightcap Hour 1: Arizona SPANKS Arkansas + Illinois MOVES PAST Houston + Iowa UPSETS Nebraska + Purdue SURVIVES SCARE vs Texas

Summary

Club Shay Shay — Nightcap Hour 1: March 27, 2026

Episode Overview

This episode of Nightcap Hour 1, hosted by Shannon Sharpe (with Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson, "Bingo" (possibly another media personality), and guest Joe Johnson), dives deep into the latest NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament results. The panel breaks down the shocking blowout of Arkansas by Arizona, Illinois’s gritty win over Houston, Iowa’s upset of Nebraska, and Purdue narrowly surviving Texas. Throughout, the hosts weave in lively banter, playful trash talk, and thoughtful commentary on the rapidly changing landscape of college athletics due to NIL and the transfer portal. The tone is equal parts barbershop jokes, expert X’s and O’s, and real talk about the business of sports.

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Arizona SPANKS Arkansas: 109–88 (Main Segment)

Timestamps: 08:33–30:12

Key Points

• Arizona’s Historic Blowout: Arizona routed Arkansas, 109–88, marking Coach Calipari’s worst NCAA loss since 2004.
• Total Arizona Domination: Arizona shot an eye-popping 64% from the field and 63% from deep, leading to commentary that the score could have been even more lopsided.
• Roster Breakdown: Arizona’s bigs, especially Cole Pete and #13, dominated with physicality and efficient scoring. Seven Arizona players were near double-figures.
• Arkansas’ Struggles: The Razorbacks, described as “guard heavy,” were overpowered and could not match Arizona’s size or efficiency. Acuff (Arkansas’ standout) dropped 28 in 37 minutes but lacked support.
• Panel Reaction: Joe Johnson, a passionate Arkansas backer, took most of the ribbing. The crew traded jokes about "bacon for everyone" after the Razorbacks were, in their words, "strapped" and "run out the gym."
• Historical Perspective: The hosts reflect on the rarity of a #4 seed being blown out in the Sweet 16, comparing it to the typical lopsided scores of early-round mismatches.

Notable Quotes

• Chad Ochocinco: “Pigs get to eat, hogs get slaughtered… bacon for everybody!” (08:13)
• Joe Johnson: “Our bigs, they had to play great against these guys, man. We just came up short, man. We got beat by a much better team.” (12:09)
• Joe Johnson: “Arizona got a bunch of guys, Ocho, who can score the ball, bro. Like, they… They weren’t lacking in no position. From the wing, off the dribble… their bigs just crashing the glass… That’s why they shot such a high percentage.” (15:02)
• Ochocinco: “Even in an open practice, if you tried to shoot this number, you couldn’t shoot it, let alone when guys are out there trying to defend you.” (13:30)
• Joe Johnson: “I’m talking about, like you said, they got guys that can go after the bounce. They pass the ball. And they physical. They are… a physical team that can play through contact.” (18:29)

Segment Highlights

• Joe’s Pain & Panel’s Playful Ribbing: Most of the early segment features Joe Johnson lamenting Arkansas’ effort while Shannon, Ochocinco, and Bingo lay on the jokes—“It’s like you got paper cuts and Unc just pointin’ ‘em out!” (22:02).
• Statistical “Video Game Numbers”: The team marvels at Arizona’s efficiency, calling it “like playing goddamn 2K.”
• Tournament Context: The hosts compare Arizona's performance to rare instances of mid-major “Cinderella” runs but assert that Arizona is the real deal.

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Illinois MOVES PAST Houston: 65–55

Timestamps: 34:06–41:15

Key Points

• Illinois’ Freshmen Shine: Wagler and Are (the first freshman teammates with double-doubles in an NCAA game since the early 1970s) power Illinois past Houston.
• Defense Wins Ugly: Both teams struggled offensively; Illinois held Houston to just 2 free throws all night and 34% shooting. Illinois wasn’t much better from the floor but controlled the glass and played tough defense.
• No Apologies for Winning: The panel notes Illinois should feel good about the win—“never apologize for winning”—but will need to play significantly better moving forward.
• Bracket Impact: Many had Houston advancing deep (Ochocinco admits picking Houston for the Final Four).

Notable Quotes

• Joe Johnson: “They look terrible the whole night. I’m be honest with you. They had no type of chemistry, no flow, continuity, none of that… it was a super low scoring game.” (36:27)
• Ochocinco: “You never apologize for winning, but we know we can play much better… so that tells you the room that we can improve.” (38:58)

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Iowa UPSETS Nebraska: 77–71

Timestamps: 41:15–52:16

Key Points

• Bench Mob: Iowa’s bench delivered 38 points, shooting 52% from the field, a key in the win over Nebraska.
• Odd Game Moment: Nebraska came out of a timeout with only four players on the court—“like having too many men on the field in football”—which the panel finds both hilarious and baffling.
• Confidence Post-Florida Upset: Iowa, despite being a 9-seed, is riding momentum after a huge upset of Florida. Panel agrees: “Don’t sleep on Iowa.”
• Cinderella’s Attitude: Emphasis on “not getting satisfied” after an upset—unlike some mid-major teams that get complacent after one big win, Iowa seems hungry for more.

Notable Quotes

• Joe Johnson: “38 points off the bench in college? At a high percentage too… I’m gonna win a lot of games!” (48:59)
• Ochocinco: “If you don’t get that kind of production from your bench, you’re losing the ball game.” (49:55)

Memorable Moment

• On the 4-Player Gaffe: “How do you get out there and don’t notice you ain’t got but four players out there?” (45:29)

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Purdue SURVIVES SCARE vs Texas: 79–77 (Best Game of the Night)

Timestamps: 55:14–62:28

Key Points

• Thrilling Finish: Purdue advances thanks to a last-second tip-in with 0.7s left; Texas’ last shot misses.
• Execution: Both teams shot well and protected the ball (Purdue 4 TOs, Texas 7 TOs). Purdue placed all five starters in double figures, led by Kaufman-Ren’s 20.
• Texas’ Standout: Tramon Mark scored 29 for Texas and nearly willed his team to OT.
• Physicality & Post Play: Discussion on how college big men play defense, and how it contrasts with NBA physicality—panel notes college rules limit how bigs can defend in the post.
• Tournament Kudos: The game is lauded as a prototypical “March Madness” finish, the lone “classic” among the night’s action.

Notable Quotes

• Ochocinco: “This is what March Madness is about. It came down to the last second.” (61:17)
• Joe Johnson: “They just look like a well-oiled engine who was poised throughout the whole game and just applied pressure. I thought Texas gave them a great run.” (56:13)

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The New Era of College Sports: NIL, Transfer Portal & Level Playing Field

Timestamps: 69:13–83:41

Key Points

• End of “Blue Blood” Dominance: Rick Pitino claimed, “the era of blue blood programs is over,” sparking discussion about the democratizing force of NIL ($) and the transfer portal.
• NIL as the Great Equalizer: Players are now “going where the bag’s at;” cash and opportunity are leveling the recruiting field, allowing schools like Texas Tech and Arkansas to compete with traditional powerhouses.
• Transfer Power: The panel warns—schools now have to “recruit their own players every year,” just like maintaining a relationship: “You gotta recruit your girl every day... somebody else is trying to recruit her” (78:03).
• Hypocrisy of NCAA/Coaching Establishment: Coaches claim “loyalty,” but always acted out of self-interest when it came to jobs and contracts. “It’s a business for them, but it’s loyalty for us?”
• Player Empowerment: Contrast between the history of colleges making billions from players’ unpaid labor and the backlash now that kids are getting paid.
• Eligibility Limits: The hosts agree the system needs reasonable age/fairness limits (no 26-year-olds against freshmen), but otherwise are wholly in favor of players maximizing their NIL opportunities.

Notable Quotes

• Ochocinco: “It’s a business for them, but it’s loyal to us, right?… I’m a business, too. I’m incorporated!” (77:07)
• Joe Johnson: “It’s a business for them… never gonna be any loyalty in it when it comes down to these guys making money.”
• Ochocinco: “You gotta recruit your girl every day, Joe, just like these coaches gotta recruit their own players.” (78:03)
• Joe Johnson: “Some of these schools giving out NIL money… they don’t even tax it!” (75:09)

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Flow & Tone

• Barbershop-style camaraderie, with healthy doses of ribbing and storytelling
• Insights from athlete’s and coach’s perspectives on both X’s and O’s and off-court dynamics
• Jokes and lively analogies (“like playing 2K,” “recruit your girl like a coach,” “bacon for everyone”)
• Unvarnished real talk about money, business, and changing power dynamics in college sports

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Key Timestamps

• 08:33 – Arizona vs Arkansas Breakdown
• 34:06 – Illinois vs Houston Breakdown
• 41:15 – Iowa vs Nebraska Breakdown
• 55:14 – Purdue vs Texas Breakdown
• 69:13 – Pitino’s “Blue Bloods” Take; NIL and Transfer Portal Discourse

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Memorable Moments & Running Jokes

• Joe Johnson as Arkansas Superfan: Joe’s heartbreak and the panel’s relentless “bacon” and “barber strap” jokes (27:04, 26:42)
• “Video Game Numbers”: Arizona’s box score compared to NBA 2K stats (16:11)
• Analogy Gold: Recruiting players compared to “recruiting your girl” and NIL suitors compared to “another man with a NIL package” (78:03–79:03)
• Age Limit Debate: “You shouldn’t be 26, 27 playing against 18-year-olds!” (74:11)
• CDs for a Penny Tangent: Panel reminisces about old-school magazine offers—a nostalgia break after the intense hoop talk (54:10–54:40)

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Final Thoughts

This episode is a must-listen for hoops fans and anyone interested in the seismic shifts in college sports. The panel delivers technical basketball insight—breaking down how and why teams won or lost—while never losing sight of the fun and human drama that makes March Madness irresistible. Their candid, athlete-to-athlete talk about NIL and player empowerment is especially illuminating.

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For Listeners:

Missed the action? The hosts have you covered: detailed game breakdowns, stats, and context, all delivered with basketball knowledge, authenticity, and the irrepressible humor that defines Club Shay Shay’s Nightcap.

Transcript

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[Joe Johnson]

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[Joe Johnson]

I'm shocked by this.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

For them to get beat like this Joe. I mean they just could not stop him. They could not. They got, they got offensive rebound after offensive rebound which was put back second chance points. They got whatever they wanted, however they wanted. They were in the lane. I mean they shot Joe. Arizona shot 64% from the floor. They shot 63% from the three point line. I'm surprised it wasn't a 30 or 40 point blowout. When you allow somebody to make six out of 10 shots from the field and then another six out of 10 shot from the three point line, you're going to get beat badly. And this, this game wasn't even close. Acup did all he could to try to keep him in it, but it wasn't nearly enough. This game was basically over probably the first two minutes of the third, the second half it was over. Joe, what did you see? What did, what didn't Arkansas do or what did Arizona do to make Arkansas look as bad as they did tonight?

[Joe Johnson]

Okay Ocho, I'm gonna give, I'm gonna give Arizona they credit. I thought they played great tonight. They were a lot more physical than us tonight. I thought that Biggs came ready to play Cole Pete. I can't even pronounce the other guy's name. The big boy number eight, number 13 credits he was, he was a monster down there that Bigs did what they were supposed to do. They did all the dirty work. They shot high percentage from the field and like you say, huh. And we can't beat Nobody letting them shoot 64 from the field. 63 from three. Yeah, it was supposed to be a 20 something point blowout, you know.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Yep. And they went to the line 39 times.

[Joe Johnson]

They went to the line 39. They were just a lot more, they were a lot more physical than us. We're guard heavy, we're perimeter heavy as far as the scoring and we just. Our b. They, they they had to play great against these guys, man. And we just came up short, man. We got beat by a much better team.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Much better team. Go ahead.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

OO now we're gonna say every. Everything. Everything went right for Arizona tonight. Obviously. I know we. We play around. We play around a lot. You know, I was hoping. I was hoping Arkansas had won. So, Joker, come on here. A little happy tonight. But. But obviously, you know, watching that game and seeing the way they dominated in every aspect of the game, I mean, it was. It was kind of weird today. I mean, Acuff did all he could do, but I mean, he was overpowered. Every. Everybody on Arizona, you know, damn near the stars was in double figures.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, they had. He had seven guys almost in double figures. Got me. Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

And when you shoot that efficient, you know, from the field and be able to do anything you want, you know, an open play. I call it open play or in and in transition and getting on the boards, you know, it's gonna be a long night for everybody.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Joe, when you look.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Hey, Joe. You see how. You see how respectful I am? I ain't even making fun of you.

[Joe Johnson]

You know what, Ocho? Just leave it alone. What you say? What you got? What you got?

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Let it go. Let it go.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey. Too soon.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

It's too soon. It's too soon.

[Joe Johnson]

It's way too early, man.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Hell, you look at the numbers, man. I mean, the guy was 4, 6, 8 of 11, 6 or 9, 7 of 11, 4 of 8, 6 of 10, 2 or 3. There is no. Even in an open practice, if you tried to shoot this number, you couldn't shoot it, let alone when guys are out there trying to defend you.

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[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

I mean, it was like they got layup. They got. I mean, they got whatever they wanted, whenever they wanted, however they wanted. I was surprised with how little of resistance that Arkansas put on.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

No, no, he. He right, Ocho. I was thinking the same thing because coming. Coming into the game, all I've been hearing is that, you know, Arizona gonna overpower us. You know, they.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

They.

[Joe Johnson]

They. They're a much better team. I just thought we would answer the bell, bro. I thought we would come out and try to lay our stamp down early. Early on in the game, Arizona got off to a great start, and we never recovered from that.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Hey, guys, I'm having a little technical difficulties on my end, so I'm going to have to click out of the zoom. So, Ocho, you and Joe continue the conversation until we get whatever's going on resolved on my end. So. Sorry, Chad. For the inconvenience. But Ocho and Joe is going to take it over from here until we get resolved on my end what needs

[Joe Johnson]

to get taken care of. Ocho.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Hey, hey, hey, Joe. I mean, y' all boys did what they could, man. They got. Damn. Listen, that goddamn A cuff may look good. He played 37 minutes, bro. Had 28.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

He had points.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

What, six. Six for 19 from eight for 19.

[Joe Johnson]

I thought he played. I thought he played good, Ocho. I just thought, you know, for us to be the Wildcats, we was gonna need a collective effort from everybody, bro. You know what I'm saying? We can't. We can't put it on acup to come out and score 30 every night. I ain't saying he can't do it. You know, obviously he can. But if he can pull some guys along with him, it ain't necessarily got to be the points, but just play hard, compete at the highest level. Just win or go home, bro. You know what I mean? Like, I. I just. I didn't see us putting up this. This type of. This type of effort. I didn't think that, you know, we didn't. We didn't protect the paint. I thought those. Those dudes were a lot more physical than us, which ultimately led to them kind of, you know, running away with this thing. But I'm gonna tell you something, man. Arizona got a bunch of guys, Ocho, who can score the ball, bro. Like, they. They weren't lacking in no position. I'm talking about from the wing position. They had guys going off the dribble, making plays, creating opportunities for themselves and for the teammates and then their bigs, just crashing the glass, keeping balls alive, put backs. That's why they all shot such a high percentage. I mean, Honestly, bro, at 64%, Ocho, you never going. You're not going to win no games, bro.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Hey, that. That's crazy.

[Joe Johnson]

That.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Honestly, that's almost like video game numbers. That's almost like video game number hell. You're playing goddamn 2k, you expect your percentage and, you know, to look like that, you know, being able to shoot a fish as long as you're hitting in the green. But obviously, it comes down to want, Joe. You know, I'm not. I'm not bad. It all. It all comes down to want to. Especially when you play teams that are much better than you in certain areas, and you have a team that's coming out and shooting efficient like that, then your will to want to do everything, like crash the boards, you know, being able to Beat them in transition. Second chance points off the goddamn glass. It comes down, you know, when you kind of outmatch and you. You out. You know, their. Their physicality is a little bit more than. More than yours. So, I mean. I mean, I don't know what to say. I'm trying to have. Trying to find some. Some good words to keep you. You're kind of in good spirits.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

I know it's tough. I know it's too soon, like you did say, so I'm just. I'm gonna just let you.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, you know what? After really looking at it, they didn't really. They didn't just. They ain't, like, kill us on the glass. They. It was 28 to 30 on the glass assist 13 and 19 their way. You know, it wasn't like they just, you know, like, they just. Manhound. They just shot such a great percentage from the.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

You just kept taking the ball out of the net.

[Joe Johnson]

Huh?

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

You just kept taking the ball out of the nets.

[Joe Johnson]

Couldn't get no stop. We had no resistance defensively, which led to them getting so many easy buckets. And like I was telling Ocho, they got so many dudes who can go off the bounce and who can score the basketball. It wasn't just the two freshmen, Buries and Cole Pete, you know, it was some other guys, too, man, who were putting pressure on the rim, putting pressure, getting into the teeth, eye defense and causing havoc. I just thought we didn't come and play with the resistance that we needed to be able to beat a team like Arizona.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

But you know what, Joey? When you go back and look at it, Arizona at one point in time was ranked number one. They're 35 and two. It's not an accident that they're the number one seed. It's not an accident that they got 35 wins. I think sometimes we lose sight of that because we've been looking at Duke all year long. We've been looking at Michigan, and we forgot that Arizona was number one for an extended period of time. And I didn't. Hadn't played. I saw a little bit of it, but hadn't really paid a whole lot

[Joe Johnson]

of attention to him.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

But having to watch this game, boy, they could beat anybody.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, they big.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

I'm talking about, like you said, they got guys that can go after the bounce. They got guys can shoot it. They got guys can put pressure on you. They pass the ball. And they physical. They are. Yes. Yeah, they are physical team that can play through contact. So, I mean, Maybe I didn't give Arizona the credit that they, that they deserved. And you like you're right. I mean you said the NCAA tournament is a guard, is a guard, is a guard tournament. Arizona got damn good guards.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

But they got big also.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

And if you look and when you allow the team to shoot 63, 64% and 63% from the two point line and then 63 from the three point, 64 from the two, 63 from the three.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Not beating them. You're not.

[Joe Johnson]

The only thing that saved them is

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

that they didn't put up a whole bunch of threes. Can you imagine you. Let's just say they're probably not going to shoot 63% if they get on up there in numbers. Say they shoot in the, in the teens. But you can't let a team shoot 64%. It's going to be damn near impossible for you to beat them if you let a team shoot 64%. Unless you grow crazy from the three point line. But because they didn't, you guys were only five or 23 from the three Joe and you couldn't put up any resistance like you said. And even in the second half when you guys tried to come out and trap, before you know it, the lead was 19. I mean they tried, Cal tried to trap him. He tried to get the ball out of the guy's hands but he's, guess what? Two passes, layup, one pass, don't lay up. And, and, and, and you're not gonna, you're not gonna look. I said Arizona. I was impressed with Arizona. This is, this might be one of the most impressive games that I've seen thus far in the tournament.

[Joe Johnson]

I mean this probably one of the most, if not the most points they probably put up in an NCAA tournament.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I think when you really look at it, like I was telling Ocho, they didn't really outplay like kill us on the glass or you know, we had a whole bunch of turnovers, bro. They were just efficient. They're not a high volume three point shooting team. They haven't been. They play inside out. They just got some guys on the perimeter who can get to it if need be. You know what I mean? Arkansas, we're guard heavy and we rely on our perimeter scoring and outside of Acuff, you know, I thought Thomas plays solid tonight, Richmond plays solid. We just need to bring other guys along. We needed our bigs, our four and our five man Ewing and Brazil. We needed them to be, we needed them to play over their head tonight. And we. We didn't get that kind of performance. So, you know, Arizona prevails, man. They move on.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Yeah, you don't normally see this many points in the third round game. You see this in a 116 matchup, right? You see this? You see this in a 215 matchup. But this is a 14 matchup. This is a sweet 16. You don't normally see this, Joe, you see this? You see normally you see duding teams blowing out teams. Okay, Prayer View somehow make it or. You saw what Florida. What Florida did to. Who's that? They played pv.

[Joe Johnson]

Was that Prayer View when.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Yeah, Florida. We saw the score get out of hand like that. That's what we normally see in the first round when it's so. The talent level is so mismatched. Yeah, we don't normally get games like this. Not 109 to 88.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Damn. Huh? Hey, uncle, you point it on? Huh?

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

No, no, no, no.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. OO gotta chill. Oo gotta chill.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

No, it's not me. Hey, listen, listen. It's like you got. It's like you got. It's like you got paper cuts and Unc just pointing out.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, we gotta talk about the game. I understand that part. You know what I mean? Like. Yeah, yeah, it's a little sensitive. It's still early, but I. I will admit, Arizona was a much better team. Like I said, man, the physicality that they play with, establishing their bigs from the start, okay? Ocho throwing that ball down low and them guys getting buckets, getting fouls, and man, we just never could recruit from it. You know what I mean? Like, if our outside shots ain't falling, then it's gonna be hard for us to stay in the game. I know. We're a high scoring team. We played against a great.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Yeah, you had 88.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, we.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

You had 88. Oh, Joe. But the bad part about it is that you gave up 109.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm saying you can't. You can't compete like that. No resistance at 64% from the field. When have y' all ever heard of that? Bro, you probably won't even hear that, you know, the rest of this tournament.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Maybe, like I said, maybe in the first round when you get a 116 matchup, but you don't normally, when you get this deep because the teams are a little bit more matched, they're a little bit more evenly matched. Now, occasionally you get a Cinderella, but we don't get the Cinderellas like we used to get. The Cinderellas where we Getting what we got. George Mason getting all the way to the Final Four and we got. What was that? Florida Atlantic. Florida, Gulf Coast. That. That was a couple of years ago. They made. Made it. Made that or you get Loyola, Chicago making a deep run. I mean, we really haven't seen that type, I guess. I guess if Nebraska, excuse me, if Iowa makes it all the way to the, you know, the, the Final Four or something like that, you could say that's a Cinderella. But normally we get teams that we're not used to, you know, the mid, oh, Miami of Ohio, many, many years ago. I think they took. What was that they took. That was in 1990. I think they took UNLV. They ended up winning the championship and they took them. They ended up beating them, but they took them down to the wire. But this was a. I mean, I don't know if I've seen so such a balance. Six guys in double figures. All the guys. I mean, nobody missed more than four damn shots. Yeah, that's crazy, Joe. Just imagine if you're on a team, Joe. Y' all get up. Y' all get up that many shots and you all. And the most guy. Most shots that one guy missed was 4. 4. Yeah, man,

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

I told you. It's like, like video game numbers. In order for Arkansas to even have a chance tonight, let's say there was nothing that they could do with Arizona on both ends of the court. That means their, their players would have to match what everybody from Arizona did. That mean they would have to have a goddamn out of body experience, you know, from the 2 and from 3 to even make it a goddamn game.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, well, I think.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

I don't even know if. If Acuff goes crazy and he gets 35, 40, I'm not so sure that even makes a difference because they couldn't get stops. So it doesn't matter. Once you fall behind, it doesn't do you any good to match bucket for bucket because you're not. You're not creating you and you're not making enough threes to dig into their tools that they're making. So that was the problem because Arizona would come down and get a bucket. Arizona come down, miss. Arizona go down, get another bucket. You come down, you miss, get another bucket. And they say, you know, a four point lead is a 10, is a 14 is a 19 point lead, 20 point lead. And you look it up, you're like, well, damn, how did this get so, how did this get out of hand?

[Joe Johnson]

They played. They played well, I thought they big. They came off the bench for Arizona. What's his name? A. Walker.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Yep.

[Joe Johnson]

He was a monster when he came in the game, man.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Seven boards in 24 minutes.

[Joe Johnson]

That's what I'm saying. Like we. We needed. We needed at least one of our bigs to, you know, pretty good numbers just to be able to match. I mean, obviously, when you look at Arizona, when you really watch them play tonight, they were so much more physical than us fellas. I mean, from. From the second chance points to just being a dog under the basket. They're. They're big, so you almost had to double them. Cause they were just scoring at will. You know what I mean?

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Yeah. I mean, you. Yeah, they're also comes off the bench. He plays 13 minutes, Joe, he has eight points. He's two or three from the floor, two or two from the free throw line, two or two from the three point line in 13 minutes, the guy gets eight points.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

A walker plays 24 minutes, he gets 14 points.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. I mean, hey, hey, I tip my hat to him, man. They came ready to play. They show why they was a number one seed. And man, they just kind of ran us out of the gym, you know. Get kudos to my razor.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

They did. But hey, ain't nothing. Ain't nothing.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Hey, what a strap at. Hey, Joe, you. You. You go. Oh, Joe, you remember used to go to the barbershop.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

In the barber chair strapped to the bar. Yeah. They took that big old belt off and put it on Arkansas ass. That would have been joke.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Hey, hey, hey, Unc. Hey, Unc, can you hear me?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, listen, man.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Hey, Arizona eating bacon.

[Joe Johnson]

I knew bacon crackers. I knew it was some guys a pig feet.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Hey, pepperoni pizza free in Arizona.

[Joe Johnson]

Listen, I knew there's some guys hating on my downfall. I know y' all waiting for it.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Hey, Joe, you were doing all that popping.

[Joe Johnson]

I'mma do that, Joe.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

I'mma do that.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Hey, I'm. I'm the king and all this stuff. So you gotta. You gotta learn to be humble.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, listen, hey, listen.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

The chat had to gassed him up. Talking about King ISO. He got memes and everything. Everybody in the discord they calling hey, King ISO.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I can't. I couldn't control the outcome, okay? I'm just the biggest supporter, biggest fan of my Razorbacks. All right? I can only do what I could do.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Fellas, you can still support him. Yeah, you could, but you're just not going no further.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Hey, honestly, I don't even think if Joe was out there. I don't even think they still would

[Joe Johnson]

have came, man, chill, bro, chill.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

I'm just saying that's just the way Arizona dominated, Joe. It's not a slightest.

[Joe Johnson]

Ocho, I ain't going. I ain't going. I ain't going.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Partner.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm just letting you know that right now. I don't know what you think this is. Yeah, I ain't going. He talking about if I was out there, we still would. Man, please. I ain't going. Yeah.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

I said bad. I'm like, hey, hey, hey. Oh, Joe, they put them over. I'm like, damn. I started feeling my butt. I said, damn. I thought I would get my ass.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Hey, hey, Joe, Joe, Joe. You brought it on yourself.

[Joe Johnson]

They gave us a good. They gave us a nice little whooping. They gave us a nice one. They gave us a nice one.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They put.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

But you know what? All things being equal, Joe, I think you would rather lose like this than lose how Texas lost. And we're going to talk about that in a minute. But to loot. To. I mean, look, the thing is, that was just a better team. There ain't no way around it. Arkansas would have had to play their best most complete game of the year, and Acuff would have needed to go for 40 plus.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

That was the. That was the only chance they had because. And hope they don't shoot like this. And even if he goes 40 plus, when you let the team shoot 64%, that means, well, damn, you got to get some stops at some point.

[Joe Johnson]

You got to, man. And I'm sure Coach Cal was talking to them boys before the game. Cause I've been listening to all the interviews, and that's the first thing he was harping on was the, you know, being able to deal with their size, the. The. The defensive presence and controlling tempo. We did none of that. Arizona came out to answer the bill from the start. I could kind of tell him, like, man, it just don't seem like, you know, we got that oomph that we need to really win this game. You know, Arizona just came out from the jump. Like I said, they was working through their bigs. Their bigs was kind of getting what they want, and I knew that wasn't a good sign for us.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Yeah. So University of Arizona, the Wildcats, the number one seed. They get to move on. They're the number one seed in the West. They move on thanks to a 10988 victory over Arkansas. Arkansas, great season with their freshman of the year, SEC Player of the year. Their Season is over. Had a great season 289 but support

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Nah, I'm just kidding.

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Their season ends Arizona own to the Elite Eight. Illinois beat the Houston Cougars by the score of 65 55. The freshmen keep delivering for Illinois waggler and are the first freshman teammates to each have double doubles in the same NCAA tournament game since freshman's became available to play in 1972. 73. You talk about 14 and 10 and 13 and 12 and they, you know, neither team shot the ball particularly well. But when you look at Houston Joe, they shot two free throws all night

[Joe Johnson]

and win no game.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

The game. The game would have been even more lopsided if Arizona couldn't fighting a line. I could have made that free throw. They're 12, 21 beat them on the glass. They beat him on the glass. Both teams shot 9 of 23 from the three the align. I shot 43 from the floor. Houston was worse. 22 of 64, 34 from the floor. And we know the Cougars can turn the defense up but in the process they didn't really get anything cheap. Nah, they had to scrap for everything and they couldn't. They couldn't. They couldn't buy. But they couldn't buy a bucket.

[Joe Johnson]

They couldn't, they couldn't, they couldn't. I I'm giving Illinois credit in this. They. They play hard.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

Guarded. They were tough defensively. Uncle Ocho, it took Houston forever just to even score a bucket.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Yeah, Joe, I was looking at. I was like, hold on. Because I had. I was going. Trying to go back and forth and I'm looking. I'm like, damn, it's 15 minutes. It's five minutes already gone out the game and it's only 42. I'm like, what the hell?

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Hey, hey.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

I said, they shooting in a peach basket with a bowling ball. I'm like, well, dangle.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Hey, they made. They made it ugly, huh? They made. They made it real ugly. Illinois made it.

[Joe Johnson]

They did, bro. They did. They made it ugly. They were tough defensively, Uncle Ocho. And then they got. Illinois's got a lot of guys that can go off the bounce and they can score that ball and put pressure on you. I didn't think they played great, but they played good enough to win Houston. They did play so bad at the wrong time that this 10 point, this 10 point victory for Illinois really should have probably been about 15, 20.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Yes, absolutely. Absolutely.

[Joe Johnson]

They look terrible the whole night. I'm be honest with you. They had no type of chemistry, no flow, continuity, none of that coming in this game to where, you know, I thought Flemings would kind of get off to a good start, you know, kind of seize the moment, but none of that happened, bro. It was a super low scoring game. And. And Illinois is.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Stujakovic looked good. He got. He had 13. How do we do light on prize picks? I don't think. I think somebody. I think somebody let us down. Was it. Brandon Smith let us down because he needed 21 and a half, and I think he had 21.

[Joe Johnson]

That's the boy from Purdue. Yeah.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Yeah. I think that for. For me, guys, if I'm Illinois coach, I'm like, look, guys, we did not shoot the ball well. We did not. We did not play a really good game. And we're moving on to the Elite Eight.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

We gotta feel good about where we are. We have that team to 55 points.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

But, uncle, you gotta think about it, though. Do you really tell your team that with the performance that you had tonight, you happen to get win because the other team plays so bad?

[Joe Johnson]

But going.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

But going forward, you're not seeing teams, they're gonna. They're gonna shoot this bad.

[Joe Johnson]

They're not gonna be, hey, Illinois's coach probably telling his players, we not gonna shoot this bad.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

And that's what I'm saying.

[Joe Johnson]

We Played. We ain't played no great game, neither. We play our best basketball, you know what I mean? Against a top team like Houston, like, they are two seeds. Like, a lot of people had them

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

pick to win it. Right. I. I like Illinois, but I did not see them going. I did not see them getting beaten. I didn't. You know, I picked. I. I thought they, you know, caught a couple of highlights of their game, but, man, they guys, whoo, boy, look here. I mean, they got about six or seven guys. I can't pronounce their name. They had to go for both. They had to. They got brothers on the team. They got Timoslav Isovich, his brother Isovich, Store, Yakovic, Huber, Ruchos. I. I like. Damn, Where y' all getting these guys from?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, and Stakovic had been playing great the whole season. I can't believe he come off the bench. I thought he was starting.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Yes, yes.

[Joe Johnson]

Illinois got a good team.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

And I think that's. That's the thing. Look, that's the thing you do. I mean, we. We've all been a part of teams. We've won ball games. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

And the coach says, look, you never apologize for winning, but we know we can play much better. Yes. Than what we played. And so that tells you the. The. The room that we can improve because we beat this team. And this is not. That's. This is not anywhere close to. To how well we can. Absolutely.

[Joe Johnson]

Absolutely. So if I'm Illinois, I'm feeling good about the next game. I mean, we. We played probably the toughest team, one of the toughest teams left in the tournament. Now we still get a chance to move on. We just got to tighten some stuff up and be better next game. But for the most part, Illinois answered the bill, man. They answered the bill.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Hey, who Illinois got to play next, Joe?

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Iowa. Big 10.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah. They both in the Big 10, huh?

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Big 10 for a chance to go to the. The final.

[Joe Johnson]

I wonder what was the. What was the series like this year on. On them playing? They probably played twice, right? Probably two or three times.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Yeah. And then, hell, you got Iowa State on the other side, and you got Michigan and you got Purdue. Big Ten got to be feeling good about themselves. They're like, hey, y' all look at us as just about a football program, but they look at our basketball, Big

[Joe Johnson]

Ten ball, and they doing their thing. They said, yeah, because, you know, you

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

think about Ohio State, you think of Michigan, you think of Penn State, you know, you think of, you know, big. You think football.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

They're like, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. You know, we go, hey, it's time. It's time for us to shine, too. I'm. I'm. I had Houston going far. I think I had Houston. Oh, yeah, I had used to go to the Final Four. I did.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Hey, how the bracket looks now?

[Joe Johnson]

Come on.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Joe Cook.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Huh?

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Joe Cook.

[Joe Johnson]

Y' all gotta be. I know Ocho probably cooked over there too.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Oh, he'll be tomorrow.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Who you got?

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Yes.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Hey, I should be. Hey, Unc, I should be in first right now.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Nah, I'm not sure about that, Ocho.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Yeah, I'm definitely in the league. I asked Ash. I guarantee that. I mean, we'll get to that point, but I'm just saying, I know I'm

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

in the league now. We'll get there in a minute.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

All right.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

But the the Illinois, they move on to the Elite Eight thanks to a 6555 victory over the Houston Cougars. They advance. Iowa is headed to the Elite Eight after 7771 victory over Nebraska. This one was all offense, 26 combined three pointer.

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[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Well hey, take a choice. You can't make this up all season long. Nebraska only said four players out. I will get some layup and one that really sealed the Victory. I'm trying to figure out, Joe, out of a timeout, how do you. How does Fred Hoiberg, a guy that played the game, college game, at elite level, he's coached the game at an elite level. How does this happen?

[Joe Johnson]

I don't know how you get out there and don't notice. You ain't got but four players out there, man. I'm saying, yeah, it's on the. I put it on the coach, but it's players too. Like, I mean, it's a pivotal moment, man.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

We.

[Joe Johnson]

We still got a chance. It was still 40 something, 46 seconds on the clock, you know what I mean? Like, you had plenty of time to. To get a stop and to come down and make something happen. I know they kicking theyself behind this, but I'm gonna get our credit. Man, they were shooting a cover off that thing. I thought Nebraska shot the COVID off of it too. This was a good shooting game. These dudes play hard, Uncle Ocho. I thought they got great contribution Iowa there from the bigs. They just know how to play make. They move the ball, they play the right way, getting good and wide open shots, playing for one another. And you love to see basketball when it's played like that, bro. Like you didn't know who was going to be.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Iowa did a great job of protecting the basketball also. They only had five. You gonna win a lot of games. You gonna win a lot of games like that. They shot 52% from the floor. They shot 43 from the three. They only shot. They only went to the free throw line. This, like I said, it wasn't a whole lot of free throws. They went to the line 12 times. Nebraska went 11 times. But like, like, it's kind of like, like out of a timeout. How do you. How do you get caught with too many men on the field out of a timeout? Yeah, football.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

That's crazy.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

I'm like, bro. So I'm looking at basketball like, bro.

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[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

How is this possible?

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Nervous pressure. The situation. Sometimes them lights and lights too bright. You make mistakes like that, you're not thinking right. Probably overthinking it, analyzing it too much instead of just being stuck right in that moment in general. That's the only. That's the only way something like that happened.

[Joe Johnson]

Go ahead, Joe. I think probably Horberg was probably too busy thinking about the next play. Uncle Ocho drawing up a play. But I just don't know how you don't. I don't know how you ain't see those four. You Ain't have a four guys out there. This is really my first time, honestly. This is really my first time, really watching Nebraska play in Iowa, too, in this tournament.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

They.

[Joe Johnson]

They both look good. I. I think I will. Beating Florida has gave them momentum and confidence to feel like they can beat anybody.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Yep.

[Joe Johnson]

You know, don't. Don't pay attention to that nine seed they got. They ain't know. They. Hey, don't pay attention to that. Hey, them boys out there balling, man, they playing the right way. They playing the way basketball is supposed to be played. Moving that ball, getting great shots

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

and

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

great, great shots is. Is exactly what they were doing. Hey, Joe and Unc. But only two people was in double figures out of the starters. Brother, brother, brother.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Nebraska, right?

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Yeah, for the whole guys.

[Joe Johnson]

But they used. You see them too. You see them too.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

The Hawkeyes had two. Three guys in double figures, one starter and two backups.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Two starters, two starters and two backups. That's what I did.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Yeah, they had four guys with double figures. I thought you was talking about the Browns had two guys in double figures.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Now, I was saying two starters for all kinds.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Oh, yeah. When you get that kind of production off the bench. Think about it, though, Joe. Think about this. They got 38 points off the beat.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. At a high percentage, too. It wasn't like them.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

They was chilling six or seven. Six and ten. The bench guys made seven. Seven of their 12. They made seven of the 12 threes. You getting that kind of production off the bench. Hey, I'm happy.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

You give me in a college game, you give me 38 points off the bench and you let them guys shoot like that for three. I'm gonna win a lot of games. I'm gonna win a lot of games.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

In College, I'm getting 38 points from my bench. And the guy's shooting except making seven. Three. Yeah. I'm gonna win a lot of games. I am.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. And. And, and they guard too. I would, ain't they? It ain't just olay when you come down here. Like, them dudes guarding too, Uncle Ocho. They ain't just out there offensively like they playing great team defense, help position.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

You know what I mean? Game rebound and we out.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

But I thought I would. Needed their bench tonight because they. They had. They had three starters that gave him eight points. One starter played 14 minutes, gave him no points. Banks played 15 minutes, gave him two points. Kale Combs gave him 20, played 27 mil, gave him six points. So they Need. If they don't get that kind of production from their bench, they're losing the ball game.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

You can't have a starter play 14 minutes and give you no points and another spot. So you got two starters that play 29 minutes. Yeah, you get two points.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Two point.

[Joe Johnson]

You got to find a way.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Three of your five starters. Three of your five starters give you eight points. You're losing that game unless you start. You guys come in and they give you 16 and they give you 19 and then you get another three. A guy hits a three.

[Joe Johnson]

I agree.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

So you get 38 points from your beat.

[Joe Johnson]

I agree.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

But contributions gotta. You gotta have that. I mean, and you know, look, it always happens like this in a tournament game. In tournaments, you always get. You always gotta basically expect the unexpected. Cause somebody gonna pop up. Joe. That you least expected.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

And give you. And give you. Oh, you know, give you one of those performances.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. And that's. Hey, look, that's what we needed for Arkansas. But anyway, I'm. I'm on to our. Our was great. You know, you gotta have like. Like uncle said, you gotta have contribution from guys who maybe you didn't necessarily think, you know, they were gonna give you that much. You know what I mean? Like, you. You got some guys who will step up and play outside, outside their bodies in this type of environment. It'll be great for you. And see, the thing is, it's like, if you haven't played against a lot of these teams and you only get to play them in the tournament, you know, so trying to fill them out, it's kind of like boxing, you know, the first couple rounds, trying to figure you out, see what you got. It's like the first few minutes I'm trying to feel you out, see what's going on, then I can kind of make my move. But I think our man, they done found the remedy, bro. They play hard. Like I said, they done beat the. They beat the number one seed, which was Florida. Yeah, they confidence through the roof. I think they think they can be there. Anybody. Uncle Ocho.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Yeah, absolutely. Once. Once they beat Florida, then you got. You got them two young bulls coming off the bench, you know, playing like that, being that efficient. Six for nine and one. One for six. What? Six for 10? One for six? Foot 11.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

You could damn near beat anybody.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

I think the biggest thing, a biggest thing that has to happen when you upset a higher seat, you can't buy. A lot of times, you know, you see these Cinderellas, they upset us a number One seed or number two seed, they get satisfied. Florida, I mean, Iowa doesn't seem to be satisfied. There's like, okay. Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

You get your first basket, Joe. You get your first basket in the NBA. You're like, okay. She bad. That wasn't as hard as I thought it was. Y' all gonna let me. My first. My first time I touched a rock. Hey, I get the preseason game. Hey, the first ball they throw me, I catch a touchdown. Oh, that's. Oh, okay. I do.

[Joe Johnson]

Right, right.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

And you beat a team, you beat Florida when nobody gave you a chance. Probably only people in the locker room that believed in you and your fan base. Yeah. And you pull out that. Just don't be. And we see this a lot in football, too, Ojo. Sometimes the guy team get upset, and it's like, oh, man, we knocked off this team, and then you, like, they go out there the next week.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Yeah, it happened all the time.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Nah, nah, don't be. Don't be greedy.

[Joe Johnson]

That's what I'm saying.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

You know, people like, man, why you greedy? Hey, I want to win Mega million Powerball. Cash four, Cash three, Fantasy five.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Hey, all of it.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

I'm trying to win all of it.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Every last one.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Yes.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

I need my coins.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Hey, guys, you remember they used to send those publishers cleared houses, and they talk about, you can win 40 states.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Remember that? Hey, Joe, you take a picture with the check at the front door?

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Yeah, man, I remember that thing they said, the thing. You won a million dollars. I'm like, oh, I'm jumping. I'm happy, man. Please. Everybody that got there talking about, you want a million dollars.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Ain't one ish land, like.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

But don't think we didn't play the train and sit it in.

[Joe Johnson]

Hello. Hello.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Because, you know, they used to. I don't even know. I don't know if they still even have that. But they used to announce the winners on television. Such and such won $1 million. Like, oh, my goodness, what would it be like to win a million dollars?

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Especially back then, though, huh? You know how much money?

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

What you talking about, man?

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

That publisher cleared. How they. And y' all remember the. The magazine? I think it was a TV guy, where you get like, 13 CDs for a penny.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah, what?

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Yeah, you get 13, eight track. You get CDs, you get record. Yeah. For a penny. What was it, Columbia? I think it was Columbia. Chad, what was it? I forget. Yeah, y' all don't remember. You could get. You could get a record. You get like, 13 for a penny.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I remember.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Hold on. What was that? Hold on. I know I ain't losing my mind.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn, man.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. I knew it was Columbia something and you could. Hey, Bad, please don't y' all sign up for no more.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, man.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

But the hour moves on. Face to a 7771 victory over Nebraska. Purdue, the best ball game of the night. Purdue beat Texas 79 77. Braden Smith Potential go ahead. Shot was off the mark, but Trey Cuffman Ren was there. Johnny on the spot and he tipped it in. And they win by two points because they tipped it in with 0.7 seconds on the clock. The last second heave was no good. They shot 420 from the three point line. But all five of the starters scored in double figures. Led by Kaufman rans, 20 points leading the way. Look, man. Hey, Joe, I don't know if you noticed this, but no white off the bounds. Boy, they'll get down. They were getting down here.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Purdue got him on. Okay, Ocho. Purdue got they guard. Place is immaculate, bro.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Like if they ain't both of poor you and scoring.

[Joe Johnson]

They making plays, bro. They putting pressure on you. Like them dudes crafty is. I don't know what like watching them. Yeah, I was like, man, I like these dudes here, but I thought they bigs were great too. They just all around, man. They look like a great team. They, they, they look like a well oil engine who was poised throughout the whole game and just applied pressure. I thought Texas gave him a great run. I like Mark.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

They gave him a great run. Texas played a heck of a ball game. They only had so. I mean Purdue had four turnovers, Texas had seven. Texas shot 52 from the floor, 44 from the 3. 53. They were terrible from the free throw line and that probably didn't help them. But that number, that number, Trayvon, Mark that left it. That boy,

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

He went. He had 29 tonight.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, man, that boy was getting that chicken, man. That's a.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Hey, hey.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm talking about taking his time, getting to his spots. There's nothing they can do about that. You know what I mean? He just didn't. He really didn't have a whole lot of help today. But I thought they played well enough to win, Ocho. I mean, they shot 52 from the field. You looking at Purdue, they shot 48. I thought, I thought, I thought Texas was in the game, you know, they was able to make a late push.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

I think if they could have got it to overtime, I think they might have won it.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

They got lucky.

[Joe Johnson]

They got lucky to even get, get that close. Because when Buddy got that and one for Texas and tied the game up, I said, yes.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

But, but I'm like, bro, bro, stop this. You doing this to, man, you don't, man, hey, block the shot. Try something. You know you done made contact.

[Joe Johnson]

You know, the biggest glaring thing when, when I watch college basketball, it's the bigs and how they play post defense. Un oo, they don't understand how to play post defense. I think in college, I don't know if you can use an arm bar to put in his back. I think you kind of have to. No hands. So that's why they always got their hands straight up like that.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Yeah, you got your feet. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Cause they tell me, just play, just, just make him go up over the top. But when you've already bumped them with your lower half, it doesn't matter what you're doing on top.

[Joe Johnson]

But, but what I'm saying is in the pros, it's a lot more physical. You can use an arm bar.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

You know what I'm saying? Like, you can do all that in college. It's like when a guy backing you down, you can't even give him no resistance. You have to just kind of take the bump and be able to resist it. You have to retreat in order not to give ground. So I think that's the biggest glare thing for me when I watch these bigs play post defense in the NCAA tournament. It's like, bro, you got to give them, you got to get way more resistance than that because these dudes gonna kill you.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Yeah, yeah, but I, I don't know how many of these guys gonna be playing in the NBA, Joe. They might be playing overseas.

[Joe Johnson]

I know, man. I, I, I guess because the thing

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

is, you know, I like when you play the big down there. I mean, you can't just, just about. Okay, I'm just gonna have my hands up yoga to have 50 point triple doubles every now.

[Joe Johnson]

That's what I'm trying.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

You saw Joel Embiid come back and we know what Embiid is when he's healthy. But any of them guys, you better have offer some resistance because these guys go look the college game because you know so much more. I mean, you're taught so much more and you learn. You watch, you, you, you work on your craft when you're in and because you have so many other things. Yo, I got study hall. I got weight lifted. I Got this. I got that. When you're in the NBA, I just work on.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

That's it.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

That's all I do. I ain't got no study hall. I ain't got no. I ain't got to go to no class. I ain't got no. My lift and say I get no. No. And so that's a lot of times you see the improvement from guys once they get there and they get a singular focus. They get that tunnel vision, and it just got locked in. And so this is all I got to do.

[Joe Johnson]

This is. Hey, it's some guys locked in right now that the tournament over with. They locked in on what their next move gonna be, and they next move gonna be their best move. You hear me?

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Hey, it got to be.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

You might be talking about. You might be talking about.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, it's over with. Y' all know it's over with. That man.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Hey, yeah, yeah, he was. I mean, a lot of these guys, man, after the new year, they don't be going to class.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, I mean, when you had the kind of season he had, Uncle Ocho. I mean, damn. I mean, you figure, you know, you want to take it as far as you can, you want to win attorney. But, man, I don't want sec.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Oh, yeah. You here now. I'm gonna go as far as I can.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, but I don't want SEC Player of the year, SEC Freshman of the year. I'm first team all. All American. Man, please. What y' all think I'm staying here for? I'm gone. I'll be a top seven pick. Top eight pick, period.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Hey.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Oh, yeah, he definitely gone for sure.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Okay. You forget he did. He got his own signature shoe.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. I'm waiting. I'm waiting to see that. I'm gonna definitely cop me a pair, man. I appreciate a cuff. And what he done. I ain't see this coming from him, you know, from no freshman.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Yeah, he put Arkansas back.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah. He got us right. He got us right. I appreciate him. Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Damn.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

This was. This was the best game of the night.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, the Texas and Purdue.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

It was it.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

It wasn't even close back. It was back and forth. And it came down to. I mean, this is what March Madness is about. It came down to the last second.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Those other games were decided way way. I mean, we just, like. We probably should go ahead and go. Ain't no coming back, you know. Hey, hey, hey. You know, in football, hey, somebody getting blown out, they. They going to another game. They. They what they call that? What they call that when they go to another game? You watching one game, it's a blowout.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, I know what you're talking about.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

What's the flex? Yeah. We will go to a more competitive ball game.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, Dave. But don't y' all be surprised. Now, y' all look up and Purdue, they in the Final Four. Purdue got a good chance, Uncle Ocho. Like I say, they got great guard play. They got some great bigs. They play together. They. They continuity is unbelievable. The way they move the ball and get guys open shots. I. I like Purdue. Yeah.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

That two and three. That Brain Smith. Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

They out there getting money.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Yeah. What you say, Ocho?

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

I say tomorrow. We. We thought the day games were good,

[Joe Johnson]

but tomorrow they serious.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Well, I hope tomorrow. No, we got one good game tonight. I hope tomorrow's games are better than tonight's games.

[Joe Johnson]

Man, damn them gangs. Tomorrow. Okay, I ain't trying to. All that. Been talking about something.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. You not excited for nothing.

[Joe Johnson]

No, no, I really ain't, Ocho. If you just want me to keep it 100 with you, you know, I mean, I'm gonna watch.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

No, don't keep it 100 with a Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I know y' all want me. Keep it real, right? I'm gonna keep it real with y'. All. I'm gonna watch and, you know, just so happened, we on Nightcap. I'm gonna talk about it. But,

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

you know, Yukon, UConn play tomorrow. You know, Michigan play tomorrow, St. John.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, okay.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

I know. I know it ain't Arkansas, but I'm saying we got.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look at. Look at.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh. See, I already know how you and UN operate already, so I know I'm on your side. You don't try to play both sides. I already know what's going on.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

We even got on here. I said, dang.

[Joe Johnson]

Hi. Ashley and Jordan, them already got the boys in the hood.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Ricky. Hey, Joe. I said, don't. Don't put that up there, man. Don't, don't, don't, don't. Don't do it.

[Joe Johnson]

And then you gonna get on here and lie to me in my face. Don't do that. Don't do that.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Don't.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Hey, hey.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Because I came downstairs, it take me a while to get downstairs. A little knee ain't what it used to be, Joe. So when I got down here, the first thing she said, look at ig. I said, what's on ig? So I didn't know. I. I ain't no joke.

[Joe Johnson]

I know, Ocho was over there doing jumping jacks. He was so happy.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

No, I'm not, Joe. I came on the show, Joe. I came on the. Joe on the show and showed nothing but respect. Even in loss, even in defeat, I still showed love. And I talked really good about y', all, Joe. And I just said, acuff.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Hey, Joe. You know what, Joe? Ocho. Ocho been. Been bagging on you, Joe. You know what I'm saying? Hey, go ahead. What we got for Joe to make Joe happy, Cheer him up. What. What's this?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, me step it.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Yes. That's you stepping up. No, Joe, because that's what's gonna happen.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Hey, that's me.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Yeah, that's you. But that's not.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Hey, that's not realistic.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

That's very realistic.

[Joe Johnson]

That's very realistic.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Oh, no. Hey, hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. Let me tell you something, Joe. That's not realistic.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

I don't care.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Court, hardwood, football field. That ain't realistic. That ain't gonna happen. Especially not today.

[Joe Johnson]

You hear me?

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Now, I'mma have you feeling like this again when we play one on one. Now, that's what I ain't going.

[Joe Johnson]

After I. After I get my fade, we can

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

play one on one.

[Joe Johnson]

This is exactly how it's gonna go, partner.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

What kind of fade? What kind of thing you talk about? A haircut?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, I got these gloves, man. These hands.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

You. Yeah, you.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Okay. Okay. I don't know how you gonna play one on one with two black eyes, Joe. I don't know how that gonna work. I don't understand.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Yeah, but let me. Let me see what. Let me see the. What Ash was talking about, because I was. I was trying to get my. What?

[Joe Johnson]

I. I ain't.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

I ain't see it either.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

You ain't seen. It's on Instagram.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Let me go to Instagram real quick. Let me see what happened, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

Look, I know y' all in cahoots.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Hey, Joe, what are you taking off,

[Joe Johnson]

Dude?

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Got that. Got that pump action. Hey, boy. Yeah, the boys. Hey, the boy scattering, Joe. Scattering, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Boy, they. Hey, they. They did us bad. They did us bad. They did a bad.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Hey, that's on Twitter, too. Or just Instagram.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

I told him. I'll put that up there.

[Joe Johnson]

It's all right. It's all right. Y' all had y'. All. Hey, y' all had y' all fun with this.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Wait, yo, I ain't make. I ain't making.

[Joe Johnson]

Y' all gonna make it hard on yourself to. Whenever.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

But if y'. All. If y' all want to look. Hey, hey.

[Joe Johnson]

You aren't gonna make it hard on y'. All Still.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Joe got that 1980s. Look at that joke at that 1980s.

[Joe Johnson]

He got them leopard shorts on, don't it?

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Hey, hey.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Hey, see this? I know this is not realistic. If I got them leopard pants on. If I got them cheetah pants on, I'm not losing it. Nothing. Not with them on them.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Good luck, man. Please. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Look at y'. All. Hey, y', all, look, look who, look.

[Joe Johnson]

Who the fuck

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

are you, the ref?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. And that happened in round two. You see that, Ocho?

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Yeah. That ain't real. That ain't realistic. What? That is wrestling.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, that might be. It might be a little. No, that's got to be boxing.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

It's got to be boxing.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Ain't nobody got no gloves on.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

He done took the gloves off.

[Joe Johnson]

It's over with folks trying to help you up and everything, man.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Hey, hey, look at the bracket. Look at these brackets. Now.

[Joe Johnson]

Look at the brackets. Damn. Oh, you must be. You in first place.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Don't do that. Take the surprise out your boys. Damn, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm saying you got a lot of red up here.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

I do. Y' all got more red, though.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

No.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Y' all about to bleed out after the ball.

[Joe Johnson]

Ocho guy, man, Ocho ain't got nothing but red up there.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Well, first of all, you and Ocho tied. Are we? Yes.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

I'm not tired.

[Joe Johnson]

The only reason why we tied. Cause he picked a wildcat to eat a hog. That's it. In the end, he don't know.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Yeah. Hey, hey. I did mine by mascots. Either way, you gonna come in last, Joe. That's all I got.

[Joe Johnson]

I still got more green than y'. All.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Ocho said he picked the wildcat.

[Joe Johnson]

That's the only eye he won.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Lord Albert, this joker here.

[Joe Johnson]

I can't believe this, man. I really can't.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Guys, hey, it happened to the best of us, Joe. I know you had high hopes. Whoo.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Check this out. After St. John's upset Kansas to punch their ticket to the Sweet 16, Rick Patino didn't hold back, declaring the era of the blue blood programs is over. The blue bloods no longer control basketball any longer. There is no difference between Kentucky, North Carolina, then Illinois, St. John's there's no difference anymore. There's no difference between Michigan State, who's a blue blood, and the other teams from the conference from Mississippi. When they get going, it's all going to be the same. Joe has nil at the transfer portal has it leveled the playing field because before the nil, Indiana had no chance of doing what they did in football. 16, 0. So now it's made a lot of these programs. You see what Texas Tech was able to do. Yeah. See some of these other programs, Ocho, that were typically doormats.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

And now all of a sudden they're playing in the college football playoffs. Now all of a sudden the teams that normally were there. And he's saying the Blue Bloods as we know him, the Kansas, the Kentucky's, the North Carolinas and all these teams.

[Joe Johnson]

It ain't. It ain't. I, I agree with you. I think the, the playing field is so even nowadays, fellas, you know what I mean, that the Blue Bloods are really getting kicked out. When you think about it, you know, it's not like it was back in the day. Everybody wanted to go to Kansas, Duke or Kentucky. That's not it. With college basketball being a professional sport now it's different. You got a lot of these cats, they going with a bag at just like anything else. You know what I mean?

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

Now they ain't gonna come out and tell us they going, but come on now.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

I mean, come on now we know

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

because before, because think about it guys. Before, before they was giving out the bag, the bonds are going to North Carolina, Kansas, somebody like that Acuff going to one of those Blue Bloods problems.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

And the funny thing, but now money is money. Hey. His money spend over here, Arkansas, just like that money spent at Duke, North Carolina or Kentucky.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

It all, it all's been the same. And because say the same thing. You have coach coming out saying this about basketball, that the Blue Blood program no longer run college basketball. Hell, didn't Nick Saban say the same thing about college football? When the playing field is even now everybody, we can go and get whoever we want.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Need some boosters. All we need is a little cash, just a little change. You know, that's very enticing. All you got to do is incentivize the better kids to come to your school. Now if you got enough money, you ain't got no control on that.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

And they want. And they want to. They want. They like capitalism. But you see what they're trying to do to them college kids because a lot of the kids are getting that capitalism. How they looking on your, you know what's going on?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Now all of a sudden we, we need to put a, we need to put control on this.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

All the port of the portal College coaches always had a portal open.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Always.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

You see them coaches start leaving when all of a sudden that nil came to. Came to be. And the money was going to be spread around. All of a sudden, you know what? I think the game has passed me by. You think now all of a sudden, you ain't the only one. Now ain't nobody care. Nobody. No scat pack, no come back. No hell cats, no demons.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

You guys say, hey, Texas say we got Ferrari and Lambo.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Ohio fans say, what you want? These other programs offer money too. So guess what? We see these coaches start to dip Coach K. Then you saw Roy follow him out the door.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

You saw Coach Saban here like, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, don't, don't, don't do that. And I think Coach Saban is the greatest college coach ever. But we know what time it was. Now all of a sudden, let's get a hold on this. Let these kids, these kids. No, no, no, no. Colleges robbed these kids for so long.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Long.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Let them get about 15, 20 years to get back. Then y' all want to do something with it. But now I don't do nothing with it now. Cause you know why? Y' all know why they want to do something with it now. But I thought we love capitalism. America is the greatest country in the world because you can come from nothing. It makes something.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Yeah, that I.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Hey, hey, that what? Hey, an American dream. That. Whoa, whoa. Now they tell you, hey, don't dream too big. Ah, nah, let me get mine. No. These coaches been jumping and jumping. Now you want to cap it. You ain't putting no cap on these. How much these college coaches make? Not in football, not in basketball. Now, now I get it. Now if you want to say, look here, man, I'm gonna give you five years to play for. Hey, you shouldn't be 25, 26, 27 Ocho playing college. No sport.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Right.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Get your ass out and get a job, get a wife or get whatever. But you shouldn't be playing with no 18, 19, 20 year olds. You shouldn't have no 7, 8 years draw the line at some Ocho. We gotta draw the line somewhere. We can't have no 26, 27 year old playing damn college sports.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

I got a question too. Un.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Go ahead.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Are there certain scenarios. Hey, Uncle Joe. Certain situations, injuries, ACLs or, or, or,

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

or things co. Messed it up. What Kobe did. Kobe not. So basically not now. And guess what? OO now kids can go to juco and they ain't even Went to school. So you still got four, five years to play full time.

[Joe Johnson]

You can do two in juco and still.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Yes, and that ain't nothing.

[Joe Johnson]

But it's schools out here, Uncle Ocho, like the University of Arkansas, to where when they get these cats this Nil money, they don't even tax it. It ain't even no tax on it. Yeah.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

What?

[Joe Johnson]

Yes, yes. It's some schools who giving out Nil money who don't even. Who won't even take. You can't even collect tax from it. These guys. Hey, man. Hey, they, they, they getting it, man. By the boatload. You hear me? I'm trying to.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Hey.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

And I ain't got no. I ain't got no. I ain't got no problem with it.

[Joe Johnson]

Me neither. I'll try and get.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Cuz for the longest time, they've all guys have always gotten money, but they didn't call it nil. You know, you, you from, from, from, from high school coaches or parents getting jobs at the university, mom getting a home or, or a car or getting to get a job or something, you know? Hey, yeah, I tell you what, you buy the car, I'm gonna have this school here to put gas in it. If somebody bought the car, somebody else put gas in it. But I'm going over here because they bought my house.

[Joe Johnson]

There you go.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

So, so I, I don't have a problem with it. I want these kids to make as much money as they possibly can because for the longest time, colleges have used their name, image and likeness. And I don't have no problem with guys leaving because guess what? That college scholarship is for one year. College can get off a player after one year if they see fit. But now when the players got a little power and they can go somewhere else and get a little bit more money. Oh, that ain't how you do business. How many coaches have released a player that he thought he had a four year ride there?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, it's been plenty of time.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Exactly.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

So I'm go, guess what? I play good over here. Somebody you paying me a million, Somebody gonna offer me two.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. That's why in college, college sports, they can say what they want, but there's never gonna be any loyalty in it when, when it comes down to these guys making money. They in it for making money, but it's a bit.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

I thought it would. Hold on. You see what it is, Joe? You see what you just said? It's a business for them, but it's

[Joe Johnson]

loyal to us, right?

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Please. Hey, Joe, funny thing about It.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

So you want us to be loyal while you doing business? We being loyal. Nah, it's a business. Guess what? I'm a business, too. I'm. I'm incorporated. I'm an ella. Hello.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

And so I need to worry. I need to worry about my bottom line, too. Like you worry about your bottom line. I need to worry about mine. Yeah. So guess what? We both worried about our bottom line. What is in the best interest of you? What is in the best interest of me? If it work? If it works, it works. Because if it makes dollars, it makes sense. Come on. Which is why you got to recruit your players every year. You absolutely do. You absolutely do.

[Joe Johnson]

No matter.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

No.

[Joe Johnson]

No matter the relationship that you think y' all might have a great relationship, you gotta still recruit that guy, man. Cause guess what?

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Don't you got to recruit your girl every day. You gotta wake up every day, Joe, and kiss and tell her how much you love her and how much you miss her. And when she gone for a little while, you say, baby, I missed you. I'm so glad that you in my life. You gotta recruit. That's what you do in a relationship. That's how you stay together for an extended period of time. Guys, you gotta recruit the woman that you with. You gotta recruit the man that you with.

[Joe Johnson]

Somebody else trying to recruit.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Somebody else trying to recruit her.

[Joe Johnson]

Hello.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Guess what and get what? He got nil dollars, too. Cause the guy that you. If somebody see you, well, let me let you know what Joe I want.

[Joe Johnson]

Go ahead. Go ahead now. Come on. Come on.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

I stepped in the water. The water was cold. It chilled my body, but not my soul. I stepped in the water. I said, lord, Lord, have mercy on me. Because trust me about this. If somebody see. Yo, with you, Joe, your girl with you. Your girl with you. Ocho, guess what's coming. Another dude. They got an nil package.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

So you gotta recruit her. Just like these crews gotta recruit them. Because I stepped in the water. It was up to my knee. I said, Lord, Lord, have mercy on me. Yeah, y' all ain't ready for real talk. Because he asked you. You know, in Malachi 3 8, he asked a rhetorical question. He said, will a man rob God? He already knows the answer. He says, yes. Theoretically, you can't rob God, but you can and tie. He said, now in 3, 10. He said, now, if you believe in me, if you tithe and you offer, he says, I'll open up the windows of heaven and pull you out a blessing. You will not be able to receive that's what the Bible teaches us. So if you don't recruit your girl, that relationship, because a school and college of the player is a relationship, you don't recruit or somebody else recruiting. Hello.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

I like that. I like that.

[Joe Johnson]

It's cold out here now, fella.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Hey, hey, hey. You know the funny thing about it? The game always.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, you just got the game.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Always been cold, but, you know, now we got jackets.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, look, look, check them out. Check them out, huh?

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

You know what I'm saying?

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Now we got jackets.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

We got the church. We have the door that the church is open now. You know what I'm saying? Hey, you know what I'm saying? I look here, now, we gonna play at the complexion. Played around now. God don't like noise. You know what I'm saying? That's what they say to say. God don't like noise.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

No noise. No. Hey, hey, you know what?

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

After.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

After hearing you preach, you are also a brother of the cloth with me. You a.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

You.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

You are now anointed.

[Joe Johnson]

Huh?

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Yes, sir. Yeah, I'll say.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, my goodness.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

But you know what? I think as you get older, you learn a lot more. Because guys, you know, when we. We wouldn't recruit nobody. Hey, this is what it is. Stay if you want to leave, right? Hey, as you get older, you know, your boy ain't what he used to. You know, I got. Got me, look, you know, I got me a little cane. I go get around, move fast so, you know, I can't catch what I usually catch. You know what I'm saying?

[Joe Johnson]

You know what I'm saying, guys?

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

I can't catch what I used to catch. Yeah, you know, you. You get what you can. Yes, sir. Once upon a time is what I wanted.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Now you get what you can.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Yeah, man. Hey, when you go fishing, I don't know if Joe, you up in deep sea fishing.

[Joe Johnson]

I ain't been deep sea fishing.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Sometimes when you go deep sea fishing, you looking to catch a particular type of fish. Come on now, you get to be my age, you know what I'm saying? I catch catfish. I catch crappy bass, walleye, pike, you know what I'm saying? Flounder, sheephead, rock peacock bass. I'm just saying. I'm just keeping it 1000 with y'. All.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

I like it.

[Joe Johnson]

I like it.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Whatever bite. Whatever bite.

[Joe Johnson]

It's a little different nowadays, you know what I'm saying? It's a little different.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

It is. It's absolutely. It's a lot different. It's a lot different. Out there than.

[Joe Johnson]

And.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

But you got to. And these guys. These guys know their value. Get what you can get. Obviously you want to go. You know, I think for the most part, 90 of guys that go to college have aspirations of playing in the next level. Absolutely. Probably 10 will. But in the process, if I can make me a couple of million dollars before I even get there.

[Joe Johnson]

Hello.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Why not? The game is the game. They didn't played it a very long time.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Yes.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Pendulum has happened to shift now. And now with that pendulum shifting, now they want to control it. Oh, now they want to change the narrative. Well, hell, you didn't made. Oh, you made billions off playing billions. Billions. Ain't nobody batted a high. Ain't nobody said nothing.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

Nope.

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

Oh, now that now. Now the playing field is even.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh,

[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

come on.

[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

All that money y' all don't made off the backs of these college kids. Now it's a problem. They getting a little bit. They still. They can never. Because the system that was in place was in place for 75 years. So it would need at least 75 years for them to catch up. Now they get a couple years, they get what, four or five years of nil money. Now all of a sudden it's an issue. Now all of a sudden, oh, yeah,

[Joe Johnson]

they gonna come up with something to where they gonna catch. Of course, keep. Continue to let this go on.

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[Joe Johnson]

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[Co-host (possibly Bingo)]

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[Host (possibly Chad Ochocinco)]

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