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Hello, Hello. Hello. I'm working. What's up beautiful people? Welcome to Nightcap. Another beautiful show. I'm one of your hosts, Chad Johnson. Unk is using the bathroom right now. He's coming back. He probably didn't wash his hands. We just finished watching a phenomenal, phenomenal, phenomenal packers and Bears game. What an ending. Hey, Unc, you ready? Good.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Hello, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. As you watch the Chicago Bears take down the Green Bay packers in overtime by the score of 22 to 6, Caleb Williams threw a dot to DJ Moore, he held onto it as soon as he threw the ball. If you go back and look at the replay, he put his hands in his warming pack. You know this tub here? This is a tub here. Yeah. Unbelievable game. They get the field goal. They get the field goal. They get the own sidekick. Romeo Dobbs misplays it. They get the ball, they go down the field and score. I thought Malik Willis played really well, but give the Chicago Bears a lot of credit. They won the ball game and I think they. What? They won 11 games. Now they're 11 and four. Look like they're gonna be the number one. Hold on. They still got a chance. They're the ones. Well, they got a chance still. I believe I have an outside chance at being the number one seed. But they win in overtime by the score of 22 to 16. I am your favorite, Unc. Shannon Sharp. My. That was my partner. That still is my partner and co host that was doing the intro. Liberty City legend, Bingo's ring of fame artery. Hey.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Hi.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Former pro bowler and all pro, that's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Hi, Oko. How you doing?
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
That's Unk. Say hey, Unk. Hey, Unc.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Hey. How you doing?
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Doing?
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
You doing good? You ready for Christmas?
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
You will get a bunch of toys, huh?
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
I want to get an aerial. I want to get a big doll.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Oh, you'll get a big dog. You go get a big Ariel.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Like this one.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
About that big. Wow, that's going to cost a lot of money. You've been a good girl. Okay, well, Santa's going to bring that. I'm going to make sure Santa brings that. All right.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Give me a kiss.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
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Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
I don't think anybody had Chicago picked to win that division. Just go to show you what the coaching staff they brought in some addition. They rebound, the offensive line new center and Dolman new left guard and Thuney new right tackle. So they revamped the offensive line and they got Lovelace. Loveland. Excuse me. Loveland is the the tight end, the first round draft pick and he's been phenomenal. So give the Chicago Bears credit. Ocho Jordan Love lead the game but Malik Willis did not disappoint. He played extremely well, played very well. 9 11, 121 yards. Threw a touchdown pass to a Romeo Dobbs. But it was not enough because this was all about the Chicago Bears. When they needed to get a stop, they got a stop. They bend but they didn't break. They made them settle for a field goal and the G because if they can't score a touchdown, the game's over. Yes, but they made him kick a field goal. They go down the field getting field goal range, kick the field goal, go for the onside. Romeo Dos misplayed it. And, and, and given his concussion history. Oo I'm not so sure you want him there with those kind of collisions. Cuz that's they coming and they come in with bad intentions.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Oh yeah.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Remember now, ain't no helping to help it on the old side now.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
No, that's a car.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
That is a for real car crash.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah, but you also, you want, you want your players with your best hands and the ones that you trust the most in those situation, situations like that, you want them on your hands team.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Yeah. Also Josh Jacobs going in for a touchdown. He fumbled the football. That has been his history. He's had a history. He's had a propensity to put the ball on the ground. No Joe, as, as we start getting closer and closer, we end, we start in December and we move towards January.
Rob Gronkowski
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
You got to hold on to the football.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
You cannot turn it over. The ball is a premium and it cost him. And guess what? We didn't see him anymore. Yeah, yeah, we didn't see him anymore. Listen, Emmanuel Wilson took over from there.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Josh Jacobs, you got to do a better job of holding on to the football. They know, they know you'll give it up at some point in time and they're going to keep hammering at it. You're good back but you got to hold on to the football. Oo, what did you like about what you saw from Chicago? Because Green Bay really controlled this game.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Listen. Yeah, they control the game. That, that really they controlled the game in its entirety throughout the game. I really honestly I'm going tell you I thought the Bears were going to lose un in the. Going into the fourth quarter. Five minutes left into the fourth quarter. The game is 16 to 6.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Yep.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
I'm like hell. That's a two score game with only five minutes left on the clock. So many different things have to go right for the Bears to even have a chance to come back. And those goddamn things that needed to go right, they went right. Those things absolutely went right. The center exchange. The mess up between Malik Willis in the center.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Listen, hey listen.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
You can't have that with the starting center and the backup quarterback. How many snaps do they get? Think about it.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Well Ocho, but you got to realize Malik Willis has been in the game. So they had taken a lot of them. They had to think about when Jordan Love went out.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Right.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Malik Willis comes in, he Comes. Yes, because I didn't see. I didn't. Me. And I want you to go. Oo. I didn't see Jordan Love until they replayed it where he got helmet to helmet. Yes. I. I didn't see it in real time. I wonder why I formed out. I said, why they. Why they bring Malik Willis? And then I. And then when they went back, they showed it. I was like, okay, that's why they brought Malik Willis in. But go ahead. Oh, finish your point.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
But.
Rob Gronkowski
But.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
But also, I think that might have been a problem. Like, you know, you can't. You can't blame the weather. You can't blame the weather. I would. I would just say the fact that even though. Even though he wasn't there for a few snaps once Jordan Love went out, I mean, that center and quarterback exchange and the fact that they haven't had any type of continuity together that might have played a part in it, maybe Malik Willis didn't close his hands fast enough. I mean, I don't know. I don't know. Because Jordan Love is. Took a thousand goddamn snaps and it hasn't been one center exchange where there's been an issue. And all of a sudden there's one tonight. And obviously certain things that have to go right, and that was one of them. They had to go right in the Bears favor for them to even have an opportunity and a chance to win this game, including the goddamn onside kick.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
When you fall behind. Oo, you have to. If as the behind team, you have to do everything right. Because if they mess it up, Oo we. How many times have we said, oh, the game was right there for the taking. Such and such did this. Such. Such and such did that, but you didn't take advantage of the opportunity. So if you're the behind team from the time you're behind, you have to do everything. Right now, as the team that's in the lead, you need. Because all they need is in the momentum because realize you're on the road. So what happens, Ocho? Now all of a sudden, the crowd gets back in the game.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
The game.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
You had the crowd at bay for the entirety of the game.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Quiet.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Now, all of a sudden, you got 70,000 fans, they're into it, and then they stop you on third. I don't. I don't like to call. I didn't like to call on third down, but I think you give the ball. I think you give the ball to Emmanuel Wilson and you go ahead and get the first down, right? And I look and I'm I. I just hate that offset. I just hate when. But anyway, that's neither here nor there. But with that being said, oo. I think Emmanuel Wilson, you give him the ball both times and you say offensive line, we need one yard. Yeah, we need one yard. Now we get a new set of downs. They. It didn't happen. I think the Bears. The Bears. Bears. A lot give. Deserves a lot of credit.
Rob Gronkowski
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
But Malik Willis showed me something, because when I'm looking at him in Tennessee, we didn't see this Malik Willis. So it might be something in Tennessee. Mike Rabel was his coach. They didn't want him. He looked like a very, very competent quarterback. He looks like he can be a starter. Yeah, I can look around the league and he's better than some people starters. It might be the system, it might be Green Bay and what they have to offer. But Ocho, he looks very competent right.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Now and you heard what you just said. And it might be the system or it might be what Green Bay has to offer. You got to look what he has around him, look at what he has surrounding him. Look at the personnel, look at the offensive line, look at the running back, look at the receiver, the receiving core. So you're going to look like a competent quarterback when you're playing for a team from top to bottom that understands how to build a team where you can compete week in and week out. Of course, I mean, when's the last Tennessee. When is the last time Tennessee has a team that's been structurally built from the top to bottom, you know, to be able to compete week to week? There's a reason they was picking number one in the draft last year. There's a reason why. So they're not going to look the same. And unless you're Superman, you can't go to a team that's not structurally built the right way. You got to be Superman to make them look good, if that makes sense.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Bears take control of the NFC North. Oo. They're 11 and 4. They're a game behind the Seattle Seahawks that are 12 and 3, but they're two games in front of the Green Bay packers now. Well, their game and a half. Because Green Bay has a tie, right? Actually, yeah. Well, theoretically, that's two games because, you know, they only have four in the lost column and you got one. You got five in the lost column and one in the tie column. So they're two games ahead of Green Bay and there are three games in the win column ahead of Detroit. We'll see what Detroit does Tomorrow. But they win one of these last two. One of their last two ball games. They're going to win the end. They're going to win the NFC north, and they'll be the number. They have a. They'll be the number two seed.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Oh, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Can the Eagles be the two seed? No Yet. I guess they. Theoretically they could, but yeah, I'm talking about Chicago because Chicago is going to win that division. The question is, do they. Or do. Do the Eagles own any tiebreakers over them? And like, if they went out and. And. And the. The Bears lose one of their last two ball games, does that give them. The Eagles enough to jump them? That'll be very interesting, but. Oh, yeah. Well, yeah. Oh, so that's. That's a moot point. So all they have to do is win one of their last two games and they're the number two seed, but they're eyeing their. Eyeing potentially that number one seed. So. Which is going to be very, very interesting if they have enough. If they own the tiebreakers over Seattle or the Rams, but we'll see how that turns out. But I was very. I was very impressed with Chicago because it seemed like they were meandering, going through the motion. Going through the motion. And then all of a sudden, Caleb Williams, this is why they selected him number one overall, because he can just make plays.
Jacob Goldstein
He.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
He has the ability to make plays on the move. He can fit the ball in the tight window. He can throw from the pocket, but he can throw off his back foot. He can throw rolling left. He can throw rolling right. And they've done a great job of giving him that, you know, DJ More Rome with Dunes. They didn't play the Kias, Coastal Loveland, Cole commit. They have guys.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Green Bay messed this up in the red down there. Ocho. When they went. When they went for it on.
Sophie Cunningham
On.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
What was that fourth down. The cat brought the Braun blitz.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Looked like on the left. The right side. Like I'm facing to the right side. It looks like they was going to pass this off. And if he comes in, I'm going to take him. You stay outside. Yeah. But it seemed like the outside guy.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Said, oh, oh, damn, I'mma jump it. You got it. Yeah. If any. If anything, they should. They should have passed it off because the person. The person. Hey, listen, the person going from out the end, I mean, once you pass it off, y' all already in position.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
You in position.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
You already in position.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Perfect.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
So you don't have to worry about. You don't have to Worry about anything. You got everything covered. Because the guy goes in, he goes into a guy who. That's already inside out. And if the guy coming out, you're right, you're right.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Right down position to make that play. Yeah, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
That's what you saw. Some of the frustration with somebody like, how do. How do we. How do we. And that. See, this is why I can't coach. Because if you're supposed to pass it off. Oo, how we done practice that now you. You don't think they practice that formation against that.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Hey, Abs. Absolutely.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
And now we get in the game and when the pressure. And that's what, say, pressure bus pipes.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
It does. It does, you know, lack a. Lack of communication. That's all. Lack of communication in the ball.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
I don't need to communicate. We don't rehearse this. What do I do? Oo. I don't need to tell you to. Oo, you got to out route. We don't. You've been running the out route the whole. The whole practice all week long. Oo. You've been hitting 10, roll to 12. Now all of a sudden come the game time, the rubber need to read the roll. You run in cut. You know, just miscommunication. We can't have no miscommunication.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Right.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
That's the most important time. That is the difference between good and great.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Because the greats in that moment, they don't succumb to the pressure.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
First quarter, he probably all over it, but he understands what's at stake. Ocho. Now all of a sudden, what was this big all of a sudden?
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Oh, yeah. Very, very tight.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Now he done got. Now he ate a bag of lemons. It's tight on him.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah, you're right. That person, especially a situation like that, that. That's what happens.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Absolutely. Look, Green Bay gonna be kicking themselves because we had them dead to. Right. And we had an. And we had an opportunity. We had an opportunity to set ourselves in great, great positions and we let him off the hook.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yep. And you can't. And you know what? You can't blame the quarterback situation. You can't blame Jordan Love going out because Malik Willis came out and they were able to call the exact same plays, run the exact same offense, and had the exact same efficiency. Efficiency. As if Jordan Love was still in.
Rob Gronkowski
So.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
No, no, no, no, no. This is not. This is not a quarterback where we like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is not a quarterback issue. This is a situation where you squander too many opportunities. You fumble the ball Going in, you're going to get points out of that. At worst case scenario, oo, you're going to get three. And then you had a situation on third down. I don't know what to play. You call and you call something. And Green and the Bears had it covered.
Rob Gronkowski
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Malik Willis scrambles and he gets back to their line of scrimmage. And then on fourth down the court, the. The center quarterback exchange. I don't know if. I don't know if he took his eye because wasn't it. Wasn't they in the gun? He wasn't in the center, was he? He was in the gun.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
I forget.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah.
Nexplanon Announcer
And.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
And another thing.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Can we, can you pull that and see if they were in the gun? If he's on the center, he might have been on the center. I don't. Because all I know is that the back reached down and pick up and tried to get back, but it was too much penetration.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
You know, another thing, who, who deserve credit. The Bears kicker, I can't remember what his last name was, but he had a 54, a 51 and a 54. In those conditions, listen, in those condition, with the wind blowing like that, and the fact that I was able, I was, I was watching him. And if the wind was blowing to the right, he kicked the ball just a smidge far left. So the wind would take. Would do the rest of the work for him.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
He was on the center. Malik Willis was under center.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Oh, he was okay. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
He. And that's the thing, we're going to talk about the Miami kicker, because I thought in that situation, I thought they was going to say, hey, if you get the first down, go down and let us walk it off. But because the kicker had missed and people like, well, you try kicking in that condition. Ocho. The reason why we go out there and warm up is that we can take advantage. We want to see what our cleats are like. We want to see what our gloves are like. The kickers go out there 20 minutes, 30 minutes before us to see what the elements are. They cook it de each hash. They start at like 25 yards. They go left hash middle, right hash X, Y and Z, and they back out right. Go ahead.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
OO and the funny thing about it, as, as a kicker, and I, I can say this, I'm not, I'm not even joking around. As a kicker, you see the kicker during the game, when you flip sides of the field, you take the grass, you take the grass, you hold it up or whatever you need to do. No, Lick your finger. Put your finger so you can see which way the wind is blowing. Because the weather in the way. In the direction in which the wind is blowing, it changes as the game is going on. It changes. So as a kicker, you supposed to know that I don't understand what Miami kicker was doing today. I don't know. You. You adjust to the climate. It's okay.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
And what do kickers and punters do to kick on both ends of the field?
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Field. You have to.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
I mean, you kick it on one end. They're. The opposing team is kicking on one end, and then you guys flip.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
So therefore, you know what it's like kicking in that direction. You know, it's kicking like in this direction.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
So now the elements and you get a feel.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
We go out there before we want to test our shoes, do we need a motor bottoms good enough. Or do we need studs?
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Right.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
The gloves, what type of glove do you need and all that. That's why you go out there to feel it.
Rob Gronkowski
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
The quarterbacks go out there to throw because they need to know the conditions.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
So we don't just, you know, hey, and Texas A and M kicker. So that's. That's. That's what. That. We're going to talk about that game a little. A little later.
Lowe's Announcer
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
But Caleb Williams walks it off with DJ Moore. A back. A Throwing off his back foot. But go back and look at Ocho. He is calm. I mean, he throws the ball and puts his hands in his warmers.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah. Hey, that was. Hey, hold on. That just wasn't any throw. That was a.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
No, no, no, no.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
That was a dot IN the. In the bread basket. He didn't have to break stride. He didn't have to do nothing except put his hands up and make sure he secured the catch. That was it. That was a beautiful throw.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
And that was a heck of a catch because the guy was all over it. Yeah, he was all over him. He did a hell. He did a hell of a job holding on to that football. But Kayla Williams, that was a great throw. That was a tremendous win by the Chicago Bears. They did an unbelievable job of remaining poised, keeping their cool and. And finding a way to win this ball game. That is the. That's coaching. That's coaching. And that's the belief that we're never out of a ball game. Okay. Okay.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
But, you know, turnovers get you beat. Ocho gets you beat every time. And that was, you know, that was the diff, really, the difference in the ball Game because you took points off the board and. But Chicago, man, Caleb, hey, hey, they're a young team. They, hey, they're gonna, they're gonna add some more. They're gonna add some more pieces. I mean, they got a quarterback. They got a quarterback that they're gonna have for the vote for the foreseeable.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yep. So all you got to do is just continue to build around.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
You got, like I said, you got Zakias, you got Loveland.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Hey.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Walker Cole. Commit DeAndre Swift. You can run the ball low show they're the number one rushing team. And when you can run the football, your play action should be exemplary.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Beautiful. It makes everything that much easier. Anytime you can run, it makes everything else you want to do offensively easier. You're running the ball. The playbook opens up exponentially.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Absolutely. Well, Chicago A, they might not have a place to play. They might be looking for a venues to play. They talk about going to Gary and they talk about Gary, Indiana city everywhere. But hey, all I know, you can have wherever you go. You right now, you got a great team to go into that building.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah. Ab. Absolutely. Absolutely. And I, I saw, I saw those reports about them going to Gary, Indiana. It ain't none but a 30 minute drive from, from down from Chicago, from downtown.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
You know what? Oh, it's just that you got to think about how long you've been at Soldier Field, right. I mean, it's, you know, just something about the monsters of the midway.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Right.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
But hey, teams are moving work. You see, there's a Kansas City, they thinking about moving out, moving there. You know, these lawmakers talking about, hey, we got a billion dollars. Come on out here.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Go where?
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
They're trying to move to Missouri, right?
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Oh, oh, Saint Whoa.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Kansas City.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Okay, hold on. Hey, you know, you listen, my geography is kind of off now. How far is Kansas City away from Missouri?
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Don't start me the line. Aren't they trying to move. Aren't they trying to move them out of Missouri to Kansas City or the divide the other way around? So yeah, they're moving them out of Missouri to Kansas.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Okay.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Yeah, so. But could see Kansas. Right? So look, and, and the thing is what, what we're. What we're seeing is that these owners, although they're billionaires, they're trying to spend as little as possible on these new stadium. Yeah, maybe, you know, you think like, okay, somebody's gonna give us a sweetheart deal, blah, blah, blah. Cause everybody ain't got money like a Stan Cronky. Stan Crockett say, I'm leaving St. Louis. Hey, I'm gonna have a b. I got a billion dollars in escrow because you, it costs money to move. You have to play the league to move, to relocate.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Absolutely, I, I understand it. I understand it. You know, economically, you know, financially, I mean, what, what it does when they have to move. What owners need to be able to move.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Yes.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
And Stan is in a different situation than everybody else, you understand? Do you understand how many franchises Stan owns outside of just the goddamn Rams, man.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Listen, the Avalanche, the Nuggets. Yeah, Arsenal. Yeah, you know, I think you're on Arsenal.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah, yeah, listen, I would if, if, if. Hypothetically speaking, as much as I love the game of soccer, you know, who would have been the first person to play for the Rams and for the, for Arsenal?
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Who?
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Who? Okay. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
I don't know. Ojo. I've never seen nobody play two sports. And that was sports. I mean, we see baseball, basketball, baseball, football, football, basketball, football, baseball. But that cross over there, I would have been.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
I would have been the first one. I would have been. I would have been a gunner, Aubrey. I would have been a Ram.
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Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Yeah, yeah, but see, all he does is kick. See, Ocho used to do it with hands. So they're gonna kick that ball. Ocho gonna catch it unless he gonna be a goalie. But I thought Brandon Ashley mentioned Brandon Aubrey. I watched him in the in UFL and he had a leg. He was booming it.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
He been doing that.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Boy, he been doing it. But the Bears stay atop the NFC north thanks to a 22:16 overtime victory over the Green Bay Packers. Oh, show. The Eagles beat the Commanders by the score of 29 to 18. Nick Sarani said his team wasn't trying to run the score up against Washington with the two point conversion late to give him a 17 point lead. But as the plate ended, a fight broke out on the field resulting in three players being ejected. Limber, title, steam and the commander's defensive end, Javon Kenlaw and Quan Martin. Ocho, did you like the move by the Eagles?
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah, yeah. That damn near. They, they. You know what I like about the Eagles that, you know what they were able to do today on that they haven't been able to do all year. Successfully, consistently. They were able to run the ball. They were able to run the ball. Saquan had 21 carries. He had a TD. He had 132 yards. Jaylen her. Jalen Hurst threw the air. I mean he, he was okay, 22 for 32 TDs, but. 165. 185. But my ass. So Ben. Damn, my ass so bad. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 185. I mean, it was cool. They did what needed to be done to get the job done today.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
A couple of drop passes too. AJ Dropped a couple today. Yeah. Devonte dropped a couple of days.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
And so his staff probably. I don't. They weren't like huge yardage, but he could have had a couple of more touchdowns.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah, yeah, a few more. And you know what? There was really no threat at no point in the game where the command is a threat to the Eagles at all. The Eagles were really able to have their way and do. Do everything they wanted to do. Whether it was through the air, whether it's through the ground. And, I mean, it was. It was. It was. It was a winnable game and a game they should have won, and they did just that.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
The Eagles need to get their kicking situation resolved.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
I'm right here.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Elliot. Elliot. Elliot is not automatic like he once was. Ocho. And you know, in the playoffs, it comes down. It comes. These games are one possession game, and a lot of times it's a field goal. That the difference in that possession?
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
And.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Hey, hey, I'm telling you, you got somebody right here with a fresh leg. You know, I'm good from 70. I'm not just good from 70. I'm good from 70 consistently. I'm good from 60, 50, 40, 30 after field goals, Pat. I mean, that's what I do. Sirianni, if you need someone. If you need someone like me, if you need some. What's up, baby? A vacuum. Who spills something?
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Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Eat. Go pick the Pringles up and don't take no more food in that room.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Yeah, go ahead.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
I mean, no, I mean. I mean, just. I mean, there's. There's no way you can get a kicker right now. Not. Not this time. Because anyone that's available is a reason why they're available.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
You are. Hey, what you call him is available. I don't know if they're looking at him. I mean, he had two tryouts. Justin Tucker.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Oh, I forgot. I forgot Tuck, you know, hell, hey.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
You'Re gonna have to block. You're gonna have to block out the noise.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
I mean, you know what comes along. Yeah, but he had a couple. He had a couple of tryouts. We'll see, you know, when our.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
One of our favorite kickers is available.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Who that young?
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Hoku? Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
I think Alpha Young. Way after he missed the whole ball, it gonna be tough for him to get back.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah, you think that? Yeah. Yeah. It's unfortunate. It's unfortunate.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
But the Eagles. The Eagles 26 first downs. They. They got three first down. They were only four. They were four nine from on third down. I mean, they possessed the ball 34 minutes like you said, and then Marcus Mario to look like he dislocated a finger or something. And they bought. They bought Johnson in. Don't y'.
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Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
He's been on. There have been 32 teams in the NFL. He's been on damn near 20 of them. Yeah, I mean, at that point in time, you know, all. There was no chance.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Right.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
That the commanders were gonna mount anything as far as a comeback.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Right.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
There's a reason why a guy. And I thought Josh McCown had been on a bunch of teams, right? Hey, he ain't got no room for nobody else's jerseys. He got all his jerseys on his wall in the basement.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah, you. You. Yeah, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
How many teams has he been on, Ash? He's got to be on, like 13 or 14. Ocho, so he's.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
He's in the same boat with. God damn it. Damn.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Who?
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Fitzpatrick.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Oh, he built way more teams. He doubled. He done doubled Fitzpatrick up. Josh McCown has been on a bunch of teams. He done got. He done. He way past Josh McCown.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Okay.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
He done been on, like, 13, 14 teams.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Okay. Damn. I'm trying to think. I could have sw. Been.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
He's been on Washington twice. Eight total, different teams in how many years?
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Only eight. That's it.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Well, he had two stints with Washington. How many of Josh McCown and Fitzpatrick been on? Because I know Fitzpatrick was with the Jets. He's with Buffalo. He's with Miami. I think he's with Cincinnati. I think he's with the. The. The. The Texans.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
And Fitz. Hey, everywhere Fitz go, boy, he be dealing that thing.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Boy, just know you ain't going to the playoffs. It's gonna be fancy, but you ain't going to the playoffs, right? Josh McCown's been on 11 teams. Okay, but he played like 20 years, didn't he? I think he played like 20 years, Ocho. Yeah, he's a. He's somewhere. He's coaching now. He's a quarterback coach in. In Minnesota.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
I just saw him red recently.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
I think he's a quarterback coach in Minnesota. Don't be surprised because, remember, he got interviewed for a job. Yeah. Don't be surprised if he get a job. I mean, how can you. Can you still be the Chicago Bears if you play it. If you play. If you play at another state. Hey, if you're in Indiana, can you still be called the Chicago Bears?
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah, because it's not that far. You. You still. You still. Gary, Indiana. Yeah, that's.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho)
That's a good question. Huh? That's a. Listen, that's a great question. Even though it's so close.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Well, I guess they say, well, theoretically, the Giants, they don't play in New York, they play in Jersey.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
In Jersey, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
So. And they still called it the New York Giants?
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah, it makes sense.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Do you think they would try. You had a problem with them going for two.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Now you.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
You. I don't. I don't know what the purpose was. I mean, whatever play that you ran, Ocho.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Right.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
I'll save it for a ray today. I'm damn sure not breaking it out now after I'm already beating the team by the score of which we beating them.
Rob Gronkowski
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Chad Johnson (Ocho)
And probably just want to try something. They probably worked on it. They worked.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
You heard what you call him sad, though. He said we'll see him in two weeks.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Who said?
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Now I'm telling. Now you gonna get guys going out there.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
You.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Hey, oh, you want to run this co op. Okay.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Right.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
They're gonna cheap shot you. They're gonna do all that stuff.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Hey, stop it. If you don't like it, stop it.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
It's gonna be interesting. Gonna be a lot of fights. I mean, you got. For. You saw the fight happen when you went for two.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Oh, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
So you. So you know what's coming when you. When we go to Philly.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Oh, yeah. Hold on.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
A little extra to it now.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
And they play. They play again in what, two weeks? Oh, yeah. Wait. It ain't gonna be no different. It ain't gonna be no different. You don't have enough horsepower. I love. I love the commanders. You don't have enough horsepower to compete with the Eagles right now. Even. Even as up and down and as inconsistent as they've been all year long. You don't have enough horsepower. You don't. They would have. They would have to just lay down.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Nah, they're not gonna lay down because they gotta play because they're trying to get. You know. You know, you tried. Obviously, you won the division. So you're gonna get a home playoff game.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
But okay, I'm gonna add a little sauce to it. So y' all want to be out here? Y' all want to go for two? Don't worry about it.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
We got something for that.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Hey, you saw early in the game how they stole on DJ Moore? Oh.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Oh, you noticed that?
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
That he had noticed it.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Nothing to do with the plate.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah, I thought you would have missed that.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
No, hell no. I saw it. So I got something for y'.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
All.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Did you say, see what you get? That's what y' all get for trying to cheap shot me.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Let me. Let me send y' all home. Let me send y' all home the right way.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
But the Eagles, this is the first time in a long time. When was the last time we had back to back champs in the NFC East? Hadn't it been like 20 years? That's been different. You know, it's been the Giants, the Cowboys, the Eagles. The Eagles. But now we finally have a back to back NFC champ and the Cowboys are officially eliminated from the postseason.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Ah, damn. Damn.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Been two decades since we've had a back to back division champion in NFC.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
East as a long. That's a long 20 years, right?
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Last time was 2004. Ocho Sierra said, We did what we thought was the best interest. To go up one more point in my mind is not running up the score. Eagles right tackle Fred Jones says, I guess they were upset we went for two, but I don't give a f. It's football. You can't control what the next person does. Absolutely right. Very on. The job is to Coach 15. Let Dan Quinn coach the commanders.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
That's it. I mean, they gonna start complaining about everything. First is the toast push. They want to get the touch. Push Bland. Next thing you know, they're gonna start complaining about people going for two point. They're gonna try to get this goddamn two point conversion band. Listen, it don't matter what the other team is running. Your job is to call the play defensively and the job for the players is to stop the goddamn play. That's it. Anybody running up the goddamn score. Man, come on now.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Did you see they call. You see they calling them guards for false start on that tush push.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. They call it.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
I'm like, bro, they've been doing it. Oh, yeah, they've been jumping the snap.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah, they got an eye on it now though.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Absolutely. Oh, yo, three of them.
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Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
O o.com sloppiest, windiest quarters in recent football college history, followed by an incredible, dramatic fourth quarter. It looked like Texas A and M was going to force overtime or score and potentially go for two like we saw with the Seattle Seahawks do on Thursday night. Yes, but Bryce Fitzgerald picked off Marcel Reed in the end zone with 23 seconds left. Miami's defensive lineman, Reuben Bain Jr. Put together a performance for the 80s. Bane had four tackles for losses, three sacks and a block field goal. You know, just scanning. He's the best college football. He's the best D lineman that I've seen this year.
Rob Gronkowski
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
But hey, maybe there's. There's some other guys out there. Ocho, the only favorite. Marcel bro. That you cannot throw. You got to throw that guy open. There was a window. You were late.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah, super late. Super late. Hey, super late. Trying to aim it. And obviously when you're that close, when you that. When you're that close to the end zone. But you got to let that ball go early because you're running out of goddamn real estate.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Not only.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Not only you. Not early. You throwing the ball behind him anyway. So it make it that. It make it that easier for the. For the young freshman who had his second pick of the day to send you home and end the game. It was the defensive game today. It was the defensive game with plays being made and sprinkled out. Malachi. Tony boy, he's special. They called him down here at the crib. We call him Baby Jesus. We called him Baby Jesus for a reason, man. Listen, he was special. I was kind of up. I was kind of sad for him when he fumbled the ball. He fumbled the ball. May. He went to the sideline, had his head down and seeing his teammates. Mark. Mark Fletcher, man. Mark Fletcher was toting that rock today. Y. Fletcher was toting that rock today. He 17 carry for 172. And I had a lot of people say, well, hell, if the Hurricanes were running the ball like that, why didn't you just do that the entirety of the game? Just keep running the ball until they stop it.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Man. Carson Beck, hey, he a had.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
He had that kind of un.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
He had that kind of year. You talk about that kind of game.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
It was bad, huh?
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
He did the right thing getting up out of Georgia because he's gonna be on the bench behind Stockton.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
You think so?
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Hell, yeah. Hell yeah. Those two interceptions really, really killed him. I mean, Texas A, them, they really couldn't run the football. They had 35 rushes, Ocho, for 89 yards.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
I mean, the. It was a defensive game, but, yeah, you sprinkle in some drops, you know, a fumble here. Miami came to play.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Oh, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
In a hostile environment, you know.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
I.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Think Miami's offense is kind of challenged because of the quarterback play. I think they got some skill position players that can. Oh, yeah, play.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
They got.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
10 to three, but they got it right. I mean, they got it right. I. I think Miami deserved to be there. Yes, they got the. Who. Who does Miami. Miami play? Ohio State.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Ohio State. Listen, they. They gonna have to come to the party, man.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Okay. They're going to have. We're gonna talk about this a little later, Ocho.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Oregon beat James beat James Madison beat the brakes off them. That wasn't even interested. So Oregon is at plays Texas Tech, Alabama plays Indiana. Ole Miss plays Georgia. This was a game that went down to the wire earlier this year. Ole Miss was in control of this game, and Georgia came back and won. And do you play Ohio State?
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
So, hey, um, can't play like this against Ohio State, huh? They. They can't play like this offensively. Play like this. Not gonna happen. Carson. Carson Beck. Boy, you. You got a.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
You got to pull because Ohio State got a defense. Boy, they get after you.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah, but they got.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
They got some guys gonna go high in the draft. They can get after you. Yeah, they can get after you. Carson Beck's gonna have to. Have to play the game of his life.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Oh, yeah, because.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
I don't know. I don't know. Miami has a great defense. They're here for a reason. We're not selling them short. No, but they. Ohio State has an offense. The question is, Carson Beckett, quarterback, can he crack Ohio State's defense?
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah, I mean, you know what. You know, for Carson Beck, honestly, it makes it easy because he has a receiving cords to do that. He had the supporting cast. Not. I mean, you. You know, the. The comparison. People say Carnell Tate and Jeremiah Smith. There's nothing like that over there at, um. But, um, they got some. Some homegrown boys that's straight here from Dade County.
Rob Gronkowski
Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
That can play some ball, huh? They can.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
They protect him.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Oh, but that. That too.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
I don't care about your receivers. Your offensive line can't hold up because Ohio State got some guys to get. Can get after the quarterback.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Absolutely. Absolutely. It's gonna be a good one. It's gonna. I just know offensively, them boys gonna have to show up. All of them.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Yeah. But this game, I mean, Texas A and M. I mean, they let the. Been let they lose to Texas, you know, last game of the season, and now miss an opportunity to go to the SEC championship game. And then they lose. Look, there's a lot to be proud of, but there's a lot. There's some disappointment because you never want to lose your last last two games, and they didn't play their best football. Marcel Reed's got to do a better job of throwing the football. I don't know what he's going to do. I don't know if he's coming back. He probably could use another year in college if he has it. Ocho.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
He got to do a better job. You got to have better anticipation, because as Ocho said, when the field is condensed, you got to realize, where do you think the guy's going?
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Everything. Everything speeds up on.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
I'm just saying that window was open. You got to throw him. Throw him and let him go. Get to the ball. Kind of. You. Even if. Even if you're not that far behind him, you're going to give the DB a chance because he can't backpedal out of the end zone.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
What do you think he's going to.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah. And I can't. I can't remember to say his name. The young freshman, he played it so well, too. Just. Just the route in general, how he. He set his feet in the ground. He didn't back up anywhere. No, he held his ground and broke right on it. He broke right on it.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
So he. He can't. Because if I. If I stand right where I am, you're going to have to run over me or go behind me, one or the other. If I backpedal, I'm going to be at the end zone, and you cut across my face.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
So I. Hey, I'm already eight yards deep. In the end zone. Where do I need to go?
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah, nowhere.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
It's not, it's not a field play where you have to get some depth because they might throw the ball over your head. Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
You have no choice. Yeah. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
They're gonna be in. Love it.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah. He played, played it really. He played it really well.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
He played, he played it perfect. He played it perfect. But my. The U moves on take on Ohio State. Ole miss beat Taine 41.10oo. I know Taine, but hey, Ole Miss team look very good today. Lane Kiffin made $250,000 even though he's not coaching.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Right.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Look, I thought Lane allowing some of the coaches that he took with him to go back there and coach to help Pete Golding, who's the defensive coordinator.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Right.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
The question is, before we talk about this game, if they win the national championship, does Lane get a national championship ring? Ocho.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Absolutely. Absolutely. Because he was, he was a part. Hey, hey, listen. He was, he was a part, he was, he's a reason. And he was a part of that team just before leaving. It was a huge part of their success. Huge part of their success. And, and I mean un, you remember, you got to remember who they playing today. Un, you got, you got to remember who they playing to say it's nothing to clap about, nothing to be the who you know, be, be excited about. It's. I call it. That would be a tune up game for what's real and for what's to come. That, that ain't about nothing.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Trinidad Chambers 23 or 29. 282, one touchdown. Austin Simmons came in, played well. He fumbled the ball right before the half, but they about to get points out of that. They ran the ball 31, 34 times for a buck 51k1. Lacey 15 carries, 87 yards. I mean, Ocho, they scored with like. If it's like three plays with 50 seconds. Yeah, game was over. It wasn't even. I mean, look, you could just see the difference. You know, my grandpa used to always say, boy, just cause you got the fastest donkey, that don't mean you deserve an invite to the Kentucky Derby. Now you got a fast ass donkey.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah. Now we talking to Lane.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Got a good team, but I ain't need to play. Tulane should have been playing James Madison in the bowl. Now that's a good game. That's a good match.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
That would have been a good game.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Because at no point in time did anybody think Tulane was going to be in this ball game. Nobody thought the same thing with James Madison to go over 34, six at half. Game was over, and people go look at it, man, that game was in. No, it wasn't. No, it wasn't. That wasn't even closed. They got to come up the system. They got to come up with Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt. Texas would have been better in this. I. You notice I ain't mention Notre Dame, right, till they get in the conversation. They did the right thing. Stay y' all ass home, cry. We ain't going to a bowl game and ain't nobody missing you, right? But. 41 to 10, that's crazy. 41 to 10. 41.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Ocho, you knew that was gonna happen, though. Anybody that understands and why everybody knew.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
That was happening except the committee. Okay, if they're top 10, okay, Ocho, we put them in. But come on, now. Come on. Y' all know. Y' all know this is not the same. Now, y' all know James Madison in Tulane doesn't have the same caliber of player as Ole Miss in Oregon. So what did you expect to happen?
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
I mean, listen, they. They understood what was going to happen. They understood what was going to happen. But they. They. They. They were deserving based on what they did throughout the season.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Oo, you got to look at who they're playing. Okay? If you put tane in the sec, you think they gonna have this record?
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Well, they. They gonna be over, huh?
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Okay, you put them in the Big Ten, they gonna have this record. They might go 500 comparable opponents you playing. Come on, now.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah, I'm listening. I'm with you when you're right. I ain't gonna. I ain't gonna argue. I ain't gonna argue the point. I'm with you when you're right.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
And I, I. It's a great story. It is. Hey, we went to the college football playoffs one, right? And you can sell recruits that. But after this ass whipping y' all took, it's gonna be hard for y' all to get back in there again. You're gonna need to be. You're gonna probably need to be 30. Okay? You lost three games, so the lost vista won today. So you came in 11 and 2. You're gonna need to be 13 and, oh, you're gonna have to be in the top 10. We can't be putting teams in like. Come on, now. Come on. We. We got to be real about this. There's. There, there, and y'. All. Okay, if Tulane. If y' all schedule one of these SEC team, because I think they played Ole Miss. Didn't they play Ole Miss this year. I think it was the second time they played Ole Miss. They beat him 45, 10 in the regular season. Yeah, okay, now they beat him 41 to 10.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Hey, so they beat you.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
They beat you 86 to 22 two times.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Hey, that, that's like, that's like you get beat up, you go home and you tell your mommy you had a fight, you got beat up, and she seen you back out the house. Go back and fight him.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Hey, dude, he whip your ass again?
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Whoop your ass again?
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Nah, you the a. He beat you so bad. So you don't go out there and you fight him. You don't fight him, you gonna have to fight me. Well, mama, I'm gonna have to whip you, though. That told me up. Mama, you got to take it.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Hey, hey, that's hell, boy.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Yeah. I mean, what come. I, I, I get it. Like, you know, there's like, okay, we got to find ways for, for the, the, the, the, I guess like a mid major. They're not a mid major, Ocho, but I'm saying they're not a part you. There's, there's levels to this. There's levels.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah, it is. And listen, just because, look, the committee knows that, huh? They know that. So I'm not, listen, I'm not sure how the voting goes. I'm not sure who those are that control the voting, but they saw fit to allow Tulane to be in. They saw fit to allow James Madison to be in.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Well, the Rams rolled the hell out that wave. You knew they rolled the hell out that wave. I mean, that's supposed to be that wave. The old miss that, you know, they ain't got nowhere to be riding no ways in no Mississippi. I guess you get that dirty ass Mississippi River. But anyway, Ole Miss rolled the hell out that green wave. Look, you got some nice gifts. I, I wonder what the, the gift bag was. You probably got some headphones, some nice, some nice gear and stuff like that.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
School got a little check. Who got a little check too, right?
Rob Gronkowski
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Huh. I, I guess they. Yeah, I'm sure they do. I'm sure they got a little money.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Okay. Okay. Okay.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
They probably get. They probably got a thousand dollars. Fifteen hundred. And you have the local barbers. The local barbers in Mississippi come cut the team's hair and everything like that. That's what they normally do, Ocho.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
That's it.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Yeah. I mean, you could get your nice, get your nice temper fade or whatever you want to do. If you got, I guess you got braids, they'll have people come braid your hair. But this. Come on, man. And I listen, I'm not saying that couldn't happen to a Power 5 team. I'm not saying, I guess the power forwards, not anymore. Firefighters. But anyway, I'm not saying that that can't happen. But when you look at. But look at the power five and people. I know, everybody gonna say, well, look what Georgia did to tcu. TCU kicked Michigan ass to get there.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
If Tulane had to be Alabama, Vanderbilt or Texas or Texas Tech. Right. You know, or somebody. Ohio State, sign me up. You got your boy.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
It makes sense. It makes sense.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Yeah, man. You can't be beating them teams like that. Oh, man. But. And that's the thing. I. Look, it'd be interesting to see. I. I didn't hear because, well, Coach Saban was on today. It had been interesting. What did Coach Saban have to say? Did you hear what he had to say, Ocho? Because I'm sure he was. Because he wasn't. He wasn't too pleased to begin with.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Right.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
He's like. Because the level of competition that you played and to get this invite, I think he compared, I think I read he compared it to a. A monoleague team, a AAA team winning a bunch of games and getting an opportunity to play for the World Series.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Get an opportunity to go to the playoffs. You know, the big guys.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah, that makes sense.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
But weight classes, there's a reason why we have all these things. There's a difference. And just cause you're good, that doesn't mean you're the best at it.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
No.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
So. Oh, man, they're 11 and two. Okay.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
And hey, regardless.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
You think, you think Tulane is better than, Than Vanderbilt.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
You think you, you think Tulane is better than Tennessee Texas?
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
No, absolutely not. There's. Listen, there's a reason they have weight classes like you said, also in college football. There's. There's levels. There's levels. There's levels to it. And you see the discrepancy and the difference in levels. When you have some of the smaller schools playing some of the bigger schools, regardless of what your record shows, the play is different, the skill gap is different, the quality of players you get is different.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
And it showed.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
There's a reason why the SEC and the Big Ten put more players in the NFL than any other conversation.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
There's a reason why.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
You add. If you just take the Big Ten and you take the SEC and you take all the other conferences, you take the, the ACC, you take the Big 12, you take the Sun Belt, you take the AAC, you take whatever. They still don't. Cuz when you look at it, I mean they putting 40 guys, they put in 40 guys. The SEC putting 40 guys. The Big Ten putting 35, 40 guys.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
That's crazy.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
A year, come on man, that's crazy. And Texas, I'm sure Sock is like, man, these jokers got an opportunity to get their ass kicked. Texas was playing good at the right time. Vanderbilt playing good at the right time.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Timing is everything.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Blast. James Madison. By the score of 51 to 34, James Madison Dukes making their playoff debut. Play well, played well on offense. The game, 509 yards and scored 34 points despite leaving a couple of points on the board. Man, this game wasn't even close.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
No, not at all. And listen, don't, don't, don't let the end, the end game or the end score fool you now.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Well, it was 34, six at the half. Yeah, I said, I was like, well, how much more of this game do I need to watch? They talking about, man, Go watch, go, go watch the, The Bears, Packers, LeBron about to go. The Lakers game about to come, right? I mean at one point, wasn't it 48. It was 48 to something? 48 to. Yeah, 23. 48 to 20 something.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah, it was bad. It was bad. I mean there's no, there's no way, there's no way that James Madison, they don't, they don't, they ain't got enough rocks in their back pocket even, even compete with Oregon. It's not even fair. But one, as you know, games are one and lost right up front. Yeah, that alone right there. You don't have a chance. You don't have a chance. That's, that's all that was, was a tune up game. You know our boxes, boxers have tuna fights and most of the time you have a tune up fight, it's somebody that they know you are better than. Hey, all you're doing, you're trying, you're just working on your stuff, that's all. Yeah, that's all it was.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
I mean you look at, I made it one point, what, 51 to 35. So people look at that like, man, and they had 500 yards of offense, man, that thing was so out of days. Like, look, let's not get anybody hurt, right? We gotta, we got a game next week or in two weeks or whenever they play. But. It's, I don't know, committee, y' all gotta rethink how y' all do things and I Understand, take the 12 best teams. Take the 12 best teams without necessarily 12 highest ranked team. You think so a committee or. Can you honestly say that James Madison and Tulane are better, are better than Texas, Vanderbilt and Notre Dame? I got no love lost for Notre Dame. Do it. Do if. Do you actually believe that James Madison and Tulane are better than the three teams I just mentioned?
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
No, absolutely not. And the people that, the people, the people that are part of the committee, they know that. But the criteria that they judge on that they base everything off of on who gets in and who doesn't. I mean, the criteria is what's messed up. Because ain't no way in hell. Ain't no way in hell. James Madison, Oregon. Like, come on now. Come on now. Oh, Lane. I mean two Lane. Oh, come on now. You have better teams that could have been. In regards to what they. Regardless whether they had two or three losses or not. You know, that would have given us better games to watch. It would have been better competition.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
And, and Texas is a bigger draw than James Madison or Tain Mandabil would have been bigger draw. Notre Dame would have been a bigger draw. Cuz if you said it's about money, this is. This was. This was. They. They missed on this one.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Oh, yeah, they did.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
They missed on this one. They definitely do a better job. Cuz this was. Oh my goodness. I don't really know what to say. I mean. Oh, I can't. I can't. I mean, how many people do you think turned the game at halftime? 34 to 6? What, what am I watching? What am I. What, what, what do. I hope this is going to happen?
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
I mean, people. Wait, this. Only people that are watching, honestly.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Yeah, they put. There's a reason why ESPN passed those games to tnt.
Jacob Goldstein
Oh.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
That'S a good one.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
It ain't no accident. It is not an accident. It's. I don't know, Chad. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, guys that you had to watch James Madison and. And congratulations to those schools. Hey, it's a hell of an accomplishment. It's a hell of an accomplishment. But it's just like ocho with the HBCUs that you win your tournament and you get, guess who they give you. They give you Duke.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
They give you North Carolina. They give you Kansas. They give you Kentucky.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Hey, better. You better, better put your big boy Bridges on. That's good ball, Ocho.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Adam Shefter just gave us an update on TJ Watt after missing two games due to a partially collapsed Lung Watts return to play remains murky and uncertain. Watch focus has been getting on getting healthy from his partially collapsed lung, returning to play as secondary. And he's not. And that's not been his focus. Doctors will assess how he feels next week to see if there's even a chance to play in Week 17. But ideally, what gets more time to recover from his lung injury that resulted in him being ruled out Sunday game versus Detroit. Pittsburgh just got their fingers crossed. I hope he don't sue us.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Know, knowing him, I don't really see.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
They got. They gave him money. They gave him 100 and what, 100. $809 million fully guaranteed. He's straight good.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
He good.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Because that's the same thing that happened to. Remember Tyrod Taylor, the Chargers.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
He hasn't had some rib issues in the preseason. He got it. Got a thing. Injected. They pronounced his lump. And he sued him, if I'm not mistaken. I think he won. Don't quote me on that. I believe it is. By what I've read that, you know, he had. He did file a suit. Can we look that up to make sure? Because I did think he filed a suit.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Hey, just. Hey, just thinking about that needle going through the skin. Now, that don't bother me. That don't bother me at all because I had to get shot up at halftime because I was cramping in my calf. The only thing that bothers me, and it's cringy, is the fact that them going in the ribs and then actually puncturing the lung. That's the part that doesn't sit well with me because you got. You. Would you say when you do dry knee, they got to move it around?
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Well, dry kneeling is that they're trying to, you know, they're trying to get blood flow in there. And then, you know, it's kind of like. I mean, you see, you've seen James Harrison get all those acupunctures where he's looking like pinhead. He's got his whole back, his legs, ass, calves, everything. I. I wouldn't know. I wasn't. No, I wasn't no big fan of acupuncture. I did it one time. Man, that thing hurt worse than them needles then getting injected. I was like, nah, no more of this for me. I'm good, cuz is that bad for me? Oh, for me. Now, some people say it didn't bother them, but. And I was like, I did. I'm like, I'm good. Yeah, I'm good.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
But I want to see what that's like.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
I think it's gonna be very hard. I think more probably more probable than not that all things being equal. Ocho, if the Pittsburgh Steelers make the playoffs, I think that's probably when we'll see J.J. because that lung is gonna have to inflate back up.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah. Oh, I I just don't like the way that sound, bro. Yeah. Was as of 2023, it was headed towards trial.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
There hasn't been any update. Okay.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Punct lung.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
So. Well, I guess they're saying that he got his salary.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
So that's why, you know, it's going to trial. But he said, well, I had incentives too. I could have, I could have reached because that's when they had drafted Justin Herbert and he was going to be the starter. But he gets hurt. Justin Herbert plays out of his mind Rookie of the year because Herbert and Chase came in the same year.
Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Yep.
Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Yeah. So he's like, I could have played and potentially got more as a starter somewhere else. He should have sued for more. But hey, they'll figure it out.
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Podcast: Club Shay Shay
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe (Unc) and Chad Johnson (Ocho)
Date: December 21, 2025
This edition of Nightcap dives into a packed football weekend, featuring:
Segment: 05:51–26:32
Segment: 34:24–44:56
Segment: 49:37–70:57
Segment: 26:14–34:23, 71:45–75:24
This Nightcap is a quintessential Club Shay Shay masterclass: a passionate, energetic, and unfiltered recap of an explosive football weekend. Sharpe and Ocho deliver nuance, humor, player insight, and don’t shy away from controversy—especially when it comes to postseason formats, big-game nerves, and the critical importance of coaching, execution, and roster construction.
Whether dissecting onside kicks, rookie QBs, or lamenting lopsided college football playoff selections, the duo keeps it real: if you missed the episode, this sum-up is your playbook.