Nightcap Hour 1: Bijan Robinson BREAKS OUT vs Rams + Ravens COULD TRADE Lamar Jackson + John Harbaugh says Lamar’s PLAYING STAUS is TBD + Mike Tomlin & John Harbaugh on the HOT SEAT?

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Nightcap Hour 1 (Dec 30, 2025)

Episode Overview

In this “Nightcap” episode of Club Shay Shay, Shannon Sharpe and Chad ‘Ochocinco’ Johnson break down the wild Falcons-Rams game (27–24 win for Atlanta), spotlight Bijan Robinson’s explosive performance, and dig into hot NFL topics: potential Lamar Jackson trade rumors, John Harbaugh’s uncertainty around Lamar’s playing status, and the evolving narratives around head coaches Mike Tomlin and Harbaugh being “on the hot seat.” The analysis is peppered with classic football storytelling, incisive film-room insight, and plenty of humor and candid takes.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Bijan Robinson’s Breakout Game Against the Rams

• Stats & Impact: Robinson posted 22 carries for 195 yards, with a 93-yard touchdown run, and added a receiving TD.
  • “Bijan Robinson had himself a night tonight. 22 carries, a buck 95 including a 93 yard long and he had a touchdown rushing and a touchdown receiving...” – Shannon Sharpe (05:28)
• Style Comparison: Sharpe and Ochocinco discuss which legendary backs Bijan’s style resembles (Barry Sanders, LeSean McCoy, Marshall Faulk).
  • “I can only think of four who look like Bijan Robinson…Barry Sanders...LeSean McCoy…Marshall Faulk and…Bijan.” – Co-host (06:39)
  • “He definitely reminds me more of LeSean McCoy. Barry was more of a two-foot jump stop guy... But Bijan Robinson, boy, boy, boy, boy, you special…” – Chad Johnson (07:26)
• Highlight Runs: There’s admiration for how Bijan turns would-be losses into highlight plays, drawing a direct line to Barry Sanders’ magic.
  • “Barry can take a five yard loss and you forget that it was a loss...that’s what Bijan...I mean, that 31 yard run...three guys had him...how he get out of that?” – Chad Johnson (08:10)
• Falcons Offense & Future: Their frustration is clear—the Falcons have enough offensive talent to be better than their record.

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2. Falcons-Rams Game Flow and Turning Points

• Early Lead: Atlanta built a big early advantage, led by Robinson's performance.
• Rams Comeback: The Rams stormed back with touchdowns (Ferguson, Puka Nacua jet screen), benefitting from a blocked kick.
• Stafford’s Struggles: Matthew Stafford threw three interceptions—an anomaly considering he had just five on the season before the game.
  • “He had five interceptions all season long. And he comes in tonight and he has three.” – Co-host (09:50)
  • “…Matthew Stafford threw three interceptions. Matthew Stafford now has updated...42 touchdowns, eight interceptions...But he was exquisite yesterday. And everybody saw it.” – Chad Johnson (25:53)
• Key Defensive Plays: Praise for the Falcons’ defense—especially linebackers and DBs (A.J. Terrell, Jessie Bates III, Xavier Watts).
  • “A.J. Terrell played really well. You got base to third. Xavier Watts had a, an outstanding game.” – Chad Johnson (11:16)
• Game-Winner: Zane Gonzalez nailed a 51-yard FG with 25 seconds left (game-winner).

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3. Falcons’ Missed Potential and Raheem Morris’ Job Status

• Talent vs. Results: Sharpe and Ochocinco point out Atlanta’s roster is more talented than their win-loss record suggests.
  • “The way y’all play, ain't no way y’all should be under .500…they got too much talent on the offensive side of football and their defense isn’t bad…” – Chad Johnson (16:07)
• Coaching Accountability: Sharpe argues Raheem Morris needs to make the playoffs or could be on the way out.
  • “If I’m (Falcons owner Arthur) Blank, I’m giving Raheem an ultimatum, bro. Make the playoffs or you got to go. It’s really that simple.” – Chad Johnson (17:24)

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4. Playoff Picture and Conference Talk

• NFC Seeding: Discussion of how the Rams’ and 49ers’ games affect playoff seedings.
• Eagles Offense Concerns: Both voice worries about Jalen Hurts’ recent performances and the importance of momentum.
  • “You can’t go into a second half with 17 yards of offense. You’re not gonna win that game.” – Co-host (20:10)

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5. Rivalries & NFL Culture

• Falcons-Saints “Real Hate” Rivalry: Both comment on the intensity and roots of the Atlanta-New Orleans rivalry.
  • “The fans hate each other...they don’t like each other. For real.” – Chad Johnson (21:34, 22:11)

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6. Drake Maye vs. Matthew Stafford for MVP

• Drake Maye’s Rise: Maye’s performance for the Patriots has pushed him into MVP contention, especially after Stafford’s poor outing.
  • “Drake Maye just took a big lead in the MVP. Updated odds across all sports book...two incompletions in week 17, meanwhile Matthew Stafford threw three interceptions.” – Chad Johnson (24:53)
• Stafford’s MVP Odds Hurt: Stafford’s three-pick night opens the door for Maye.

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7. Lamar Jackson Trade Rumors & Ravens Future

• Lamar on the Block?: Citing an agent on The Athletic, they discuss rumors Baltimore could trade Lamar Jackson and possibilities where he might land (Vikings, Dolphins).
  • “Ocho, an NFL agent say the biggest story of the offseason could be the Ravens trading Lamar Jackson...The agent loves Minnesota as an under the radar destination.” – Chad Johnson (33:54)
  • “I like the destination of Lamar…pair goddamn Lamar Jackson with one of the better receivers in the league and Justin Jefferson...That would almost be unfair…” – Co-host (36:12)
• Skepticism About Return: Sharpe is skeptical about the value in return—comparing potential rookie pieces to actual all-NFL return.
  • “At least Anthony Davis...was top 75...won a championship. What the hell is J.J. McCarthy done in the NFL?” – Chad Johnson (35:10)
• Lamar’s Market: Reminder that teams passed on Lamar when he was a non-exclusive tag for "just" two first-round picks.
  • “You could have had Lamar Jackson for two first round draft picks...and he was an in-league MVP at the time.” – Chad Johnson (36:29)
• Atlanta What-Ifs: Imagining what Lamar would look like in the Atlanta offense—paired with Bijan and London—inspires both wonder and regret.

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8. John Harbaugh, Lamar’s Status, and the Ravens Offense

• Playing Status Up in the Air: Harbaugh has not committed to Lamar playing vs. Steelers due to lingering knee injury.
• Backup Tyler Huntley’s Impact: Sharpe notes Huntley’s efficiency in relief, playing better statistically than Lamar over the last two starts.
  • “In 12 starts this year, Lamar Jackson is 6 and 6...His 340 yards rushing is a career low. Filling in for Jackson, Huntley has won both of his starts...79% of his passes, 293 yards, two touchdowns, no interceptions...” – Chad Johnson (50:55)
• Huntley vs. Starting a not-fully-healthy Lamar: Broad debate about the risk/reward of starting Lamar at less than 100%, especially with his explosive running hampered.
• Running Game Legacy: Sharpe rails against the criticism of “elite QBs getting carried by running backs,” rattling off historical teams loaded with Hall of Famers.
  • “We don’t hold that against Troy Aikman...We don’t hold against Terry Bradshaw...But now, if a quarterback, an elite quarterback has a nice running back, ‘Well, he got carried.’ ... Y’all gotta stop this.” – Chad Johnson (43:41, 44:50)

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9. Mike Tomlin & John Harbaugh: Hot Seat or Not?

• Adam Schefter’s Comment: The Steelers-Ravens regular season finale could have job implications for Tomlin and Harbaugh.
  • “Somebody’s going to lose that game and...we heard Steeler fans chanting ‘fire Mike Tomlin’ earlier this year. We’ve heard Ravens fans saying...could be a conversation about John Harbaugh...” – Chad Johnson (62:06)
• Steelers Job Security: Ochocinco calls out that the Steelers have never fired a coach since 1969, predicting Tomlin will stay—but questions whether keeping “the same voice” helps.
  • “The Steelers have never fired anybody, if I’m not mistaken...I don’t think it’s going to happen now...” – Co-host (62:55)
• Should They Change? Sharpe argues maybe both franchises need a new direction—using the example of Andy Reid’s firing in Philly and subsequent HOF career in KC.
  • “Maybe Mike Tomlin and John Harbaugh have taken these teams as far as they can take them. Maybe someone else needs to navigate, and that’s okay…” – Chad Johnson (69:23)
• Realistic Team Evaluation: “Mike Tomlin has never had a losing season. I thought the job was to win championships...How close have the Steelers come to winning a championship in the last decade? Realistically, let’s be honest.” – Chad Johnson (70:31)

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10. NFL Coaching Candidates, Player Needs, and Roster Talk

• Personnel Frustration: Both argue neither Baltimore nor Pittsburgh is truly close to a title and both need upgrades (Baltimore—a big WR, guard, “defense out the yin-yang”).
• Receiver Size Discussion: Comical exchange on receiver “catch radius”—debating Chiefs WRs and the need for big, physical targets.
• Coaching as an Option? Ochocinco jokes about Sharpe coaching; Sharpe quickly declines:
  • “Coach Sharpe? I want no part. I like talking about football. I don’t want to look at no tape.” – Chad Johnson (71:49)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Bijan Robinson’s Star Power:
  “But Bijan Robinson, boy, boy, boy, boy, you special.”
  — Chad Johnson (07:26)

• On Falcons’ Underachieving:
  “They got too much talent on the offensive side of football and their defense isn’t bad...I expect better than what I got this year. At some point in time, we can’t keep kicking this thing down the road and say next year...”
  — Chad Johnson (16:07)

• On Lamar’s Trade Value:
  “You could have had Lamar Jackson for two first round picks...and he was an in-league MVP at the time. So I’m confused.”
  — Chad Johnson (36:29)

• On MVP Race After Stafford’s Bad Night:
  “Drake Maye just took a big lead in the MVP...Meanwhile, Matthew Stafford threw three interceptions.”
  — Chad Johnson (24:53)

• Defending Running QBs:
  “Do we think any less of John Elway because he had Terrell Davis? No, we don’t...But now, if a quarterback...has a nice running back, ‘well, he got carried’. Y’all gotta stop this.”
  — Chad Johnson (43:07, 44:50)

• On Coaching Changes & Fresh Voices:
  “Maybe Mike Tomlin and John Harbaugh have taken these teams as far as they can take them. Maybe someone else needs to navigate, and that’s okay.”
  — Chad Johnson (69:23)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Bijan Robinson Breakout Analysis – 04:55 to 09:20
• Defensive Turns, Rams Falter – 09:20 to 12:30
• Falcons Talent and Coaching Evaluation – 16:07 to 17:58
• Falcons/Saints Rivalry Discussion – 21:04 to 22:13
• MVP Race: Maye vs. Stafford – 24:53 to 27:12
• Lamar Jackson Trade Rumors & History – 33:54 to 38:34
• Lamar vs. Huntley, Ravens Identity – 49:10 to 53:44
• Debate on Running Game “Carrying” QBs – 43:07 to 44:50
• Tomlin & Harbaugh – Future & Hot Seat – 62:04 to 71:49
• Coaching, Leadership, NFL Change Example (Andy Reid/Philly) – 69:18

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Tone and Style

The episode is lively, unapologetically candid, and peppered with NFL locker-room banter. Shannon and Ocho’s exchange blends analytical depth with humor, referencing both historic context and current-day realities. They openly challenge media narratives and front-office logic, staying honest to both athlete and hardcore fan perspectives.

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For Listeners

If you missed the episode, you’ll walk away with:

• A sharp perspective on Bijan Robinson’s stardom
• Insights into the Falcons’ and Rams’ strengths and pitfalls
• A thorough, sometimes blunt discussion of the MVP race
• Behind-the-scenes thinking on the future of Lamar Jackson, John Harbaugh, and Mike Tomlin
• A healthy dose of NFL history and why some narratives about stars and coaches just don’t hold up

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[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Absolutely. And before you, before you go talking about the game, I want to talk about Bijan real quick and how especially when I look at in NFL history all the running backs that, that, that had the agility, the quickness, the ability to the jump cut, jump start, come to balance and re accelerate again. I can only think of four who look like Bijan Robinson. I think of Barry Sanders for one. I'm not saying he Barry Sanders. I'm talking about his style, the way he move. I'm not saying he's Barry Sanders. We got Lashan McCoy who. Yes, we got Marshall Falk and we got Bijan. Now for those in the chat that, that watch football, understand what I'm talking about. I'm not saying, I'm not comparing these players at all. I, I'm saying the style and play in which they run the ball and the abilities that they have when they have the ball in their hands are damn near similar.

[Chad Johnson]

He, he definitely reminds me more of LeSean McCoy. Barry was more of a two foot jump stop guy and keep going. I mean if you look at Barry, I mean I've never, I've never seen a guy and you'll probably never see another guy that can do what Barry, I mean his joints. I'm surprised he ain't got hip replacement and double knee and double hip replacement. Ocho, but because you've never seen a guy that can start and stop. I'm talking about he hop, stop with both feet, shimmy, and then take off running again. He. He was unbelievable. But Bijan Robinson, boy, boy, boy, boy, you special. I mean, but he reminds you. Let me tell you why he, he looks like Barrett. Because Barry can take a, a, a five yard loss and you forget that it was a loss. You like, man, he shot six people. Yeah, but he lost five yards. Don't worry about that. Don't even worry about that. It's second and 15. I know, but you see all those guys laying on the ground, he shook them. And that's what Bijan, Bija. I mean, that 31 yard run. Ocho. Three guys had him. Danny, right. One verse, I think actually had him pulling him down. How he get out of that? I don't know. I don't know. But they did win this ball game tonight. 27, 24. Bijan Robinson, 22 carries, a buck 95, one score. And he also had a receiving touchdown in the first quarter of the ball game. And they took an early 21 nothing lead. Built that lead to 24, three. But the Rams come all the way back. They get a touchdown pass to Ferguson, they get a block kick. They score a field goal. Well, they scored a field goal first and then they get the touchdown to Ferguson. Then they get the block kick and then they get the. The jet screen to Puka who gets the ball into the end zone. But the Falcons go down the field, bleed the clock. Almost been a great catch by Puka. That was unbelievable. Cuz it looked like a. Oh real. Until they showed another angle where the ball actually came aloof from his hand. It looked like a catch.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

It did. It did. Poo, poo, poo. Man, listen, he been making some unbelievable plays. He was making some unbelievable catches. And that would have been a dope catch for him to come up with that one. But I mean the Rams did this to themselves, huh? Offense that we've seen play all year long, putting up 30, damn near 30, 35 a game every. They just weren't clicking on. They. They just weren't clicking tonight offensively. And Matt Stafford didn't make it any easy. He didn't make any easier throwing. Hell, he had what, what?

[Chad Johnson]

Five, three picks.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

He had five interceptions all season long. And he comes in tonight and he has three.

[Chad Johnson]

Those three. And look the. He overshot. He overshot. And base the third got him. Runs it back for a pick. But the three by two Ocho, he passed off three and jumps two. We just talked about that last week. The guy jumped. Passed off two and jumped one. So we see that. That is a very common thing. They're like, bro, you. They're not throwing you the ball. They looking to throw the ball. They're trying to get me up out of there so they can throw in behind me. I'm gonna pass that off with. Let the safety worry about that. And he did 31, made a great play. He had two picks tonight which were outstanding. Yeah, but you said it. Oo the Rams don't have anybody to blame but themselves. And it's kind of hard. It's like no matter what, we're the fifth or the sixth seed. You know what I'm saying? OO it's not like we can't, we can't win the division. We can't get a home game. So. Oh, well, it is what it is, but you never know. I mean, hey, the seventh seed might make it and then you the fifth. You the fifth or sixth seed and you do get a home game. So you never know what could happen. But the Falcons, and I told you. Oo. I said, oo the Falcons defense better.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Than you think now they better.

[Chad Johnson]

I say they can. Hey, Floyd and Pierce, they can get after you. Ellis, I like that linebacker. I said they can get after people. Remember how they made Josh Allen look? Didn't they beat The Buffalo Bills 30 to nothing? Absolutely.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Hey, and the, the. The backing, the backing is really good too. A.J. terrell. Jesse.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. A.J. terrell played really well. You got base to third. Xavier Watts had a, an outstanding game. They played. They played really well today. Oh, so they call holding. That wasn't. Look, I think they ended up scoring anyway. But that wasn't no holding. The lineman was going down the left tackle. Go ahead and throws him down. And they come because Puka made a great. You know, that was a long touchdown pass the air. I think they ended up scoring on that drive anyway. But this was a game. And Zane Gonzalez made a 51 yard field goal with 25 seconds left with. Which turned out to be the game winner. The Rams will get the number 5 seed in the NFC if they went against Arizona, which is a, which is a home game. And the 49ers lose to the Seahawks. If the Rams lose to the Cardinals or the 49ers beat the Seahawks, the Rams would get the sixth seed. That might not be a bad idea because you get an opportunity to play the, the. The. The Eagles The Eagles are not as. Not as vaunted as they were last year, Ocho. They're not clicking on all cylinders. 17 total yards in the second half. I think Jalen Hurts had two yards in the SEC. I don't think he completed the pass in the second half. Looked at him, I don't think he completed the pass in the second half.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

I think that would be a good matchup, especially in favor of the Rams. The Rams being able to score. It will, but it'd be a good thing because the Eagles defense will show.

[Chad Johnson]

Yes.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Now, what portion of what part of the Eagles offense are we going to get that game? Are they going to give us a portion of their offense that we just saw this previous weekend? Then they going home early.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, Devonte will be back. You forgot Devontae been gone the last two games and he looked good. I mean, he was warming up on the field. That kept him down. Yeah. So there's a chance that they keep him out one more time and give him another week. So I'm assuming that when he gets back. Now, the thing is, Ocho, you know, hamstrings, they like warm weather. They don't really like the cold. You going outside in Philly, it's. And maybe that storm that hit the Northeast, hit New York and Philly and upstate, you know, all that area, maybe that's blown over by that time. By the time they get there. It wasn't two in two weeks. Maybe that storm is gone and another one won't blow back in. But. But yeah, I thought the Falcons played really good today. Cousins didn't have to do a whole lot. He was 13 to 21, 26, one touchdown. But Bijan Robinson, they had 33 carries, 219 and a touchdown and. And the one touchdown to Bijan Robinson. But Bijan was sensational today. That. I mean, what can you say? And I'm glad people get an opportunity to see him. He's been a couple of national televised games, but you get an opportunity to see one of the better backs in the league and you see how he can catch the ball, he can run it. And t. You know, if. If I'm teams. But I'm scary, I'm. I'm afraid oo that he might slip because I really want to blitz him and make him stand and block. But just my. Look, I blitz him and he slip.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Out, get the ball to him.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, he leaking it down.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

That's one of the few players you don't want to see in space. No, it's not happening.

[Chad Johnson]

So Obviously, Kyron Williams ran the ball. He had 13 carries for 92 yards. Didn't have nearly enough. They had 20 rushes, 115. But because they fell behind by so much, it kind of neutralized the running game. They went back to it, but not as nearly as enough as Sean McVeigh would like to call the running game, because he likes to do a lot of play action off of the running game. Allah. Kyle Shanahan and The San Francisco 49ers, they do a lot. Even when they go in motion and they insert the wide receivers, a lot of times those wide receivers are looking to run crosser routes or they're looking to run sale routes. And because you see most times when people motion the. The wide receiver in and he leads up inside, it's like, oh, here come the run block. But they'll fake it, and then all of a sudden, he'll go to the far cross or he'll go to the seven. Yeah, but they didn't get an opportunity to do a lot of that tonight because they fell behind by so much. They turned the ball over and Atlanta capitalized on it. But this. I am so glad the Falcons won because this thing would have been real. Hey, Mr. Blank would have been very disappointed with Raheem had he lost.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Absolutely. It's unfortunate, obviously, that the head coach is responsible for losses like that when. When the onus is on the players. You know, look, all the coaching can do is they can coach, they can go through the X and those. They can get a game plan, they can get a scheme, they can tell you what we need to do, you know, and. And it's up to you. It's up to you to. To execute it. And when mistakes are made on the field, it's sad that, you know, the responsibility is on the coach when it's actually the player that's makes, though, that makes those mistakes.

[Chad Johnson]

That.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

That's the part that sucks.

[Chad Johnson]

You know, they get. They get. They get a lot of credit when things go well, fart maybe far too much credit. And when things go bad, they get too much of the blame. But at the end of the day, I try to put you in the best position that I possibly can. Now it's lift up left up to you to go execute those. But give the Falcons, they're still fighting hard. Now you look at them like, bro, the way y' all play, ain't no way y' all should be under. Under 500, y'. All. Y' all should have been so the last weekend should have come down to you guys and, and, and Carolina and Tampa for the division, not just now. You guys are playing, you know, a want to finish out strong, be eight, nine. Nah, y' all too. They, they got, they got too much talent. Don't show you. I mean, when you look at them, look at Bijan Robinson and Algier, you look at the receivers of Mooney and Robinson and California, Drake, London, David Seals, the fifth stepped up tonight. They got too much talent on the offensive side of football and their defense isn't bad. There is a bad they can get after the quarterback. I like Linda Floyd. I always thought he was good. I like Pierce Ellis. The linebacker is really good. They got A.J. terrell. They got good players. If I, if I miss the break, if I miss the blank, I'm giving Raheem an ultimatum, bro. Make the playoffs and you got to go. It's really that simple. Ocho.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Damn.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Yeah. I'm with you when you're right. I'm with you when you're right. This is, this is Raheem's what, third year?

[Odoo Representative]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

It's his second year, isn't it? Is it third or second? Because didn't they take, it might be.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

A third year old if I'm not mistaken.

[Chad Johnson]

This is the second year because remember they took, they took Pennix Jr. Last year, which was his first year.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Right, right, right.

[Chad Johnson]

But you look at what they got. They got AJ Terrell, they got Jesse Bass III, Linda Floyd, Pierce Jr. They got some guys, those interior guys are really good. They, they not in the names like a Jeffrey Simmons. They're not a name like a, a, a a a Chris Jones. They're not a name like that, but they're solid players. Yeah. In that division. OO yeah, yeah. Yeah. You got to make the playoffs in that division. Cuz they a ain't no, ain't no hell raises in that division. There's some solid teams, but they're not, they're, there are no, there are no Rams in that division. There are no Seahawks in that division. There are no 49ers in that division. There are no Eagles in that division. There's no Chicago or the Green Bays in that division. N that, that's, that's one of the weaker divisions in football and I expect better than what I got this year at some point in time. OO we can't keep kicking this thing down the road and say next year and next year and next year. You got enough. He's giving you enough now it's time to go make this thing happen.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

You Definitely have enough to. To compete. To compete. Definitely got enough.

[Chad Johnson]

So it's going to be very interesting. The 49ers. The 49ers, if they beat Seattle, they're the number one seed. Seattle wins, Seattle's the one seed. Those are the only scenarios. Those are the only scenarios.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Good thing about those scenarios, either way it go, I'm in the playoffs.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, if the Bears. Hold on. If the Eagles win and the Bears lose, the Eagles will go to the 2 slot, the Bears will fall down to the 3 slot, and the winner of the NFC south will be in the 4 slot. So there's still very much. There's still a lot to play for. There's still a lot on the line, and it's gonna be very, very interesting to see what transpires. Who the Eagles got the commanders. Eagles got the commanders. The Cowboys got the judges.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

That should be easy out. I don't mean to be disrespectful. For the Eagles. It should be easy out.

[Chad Johnson]

You know, now I remember they ran the score up on them. They said, we got something for y'. All. We see y' all in a couple of weeks. That what they say, Ocho? I don't know. Now that's what they say.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Listen, I know one thing. We can have the bottom of the offense fall out like it did last week. We can't have that. We can't have. We can't. I'm talking about we. But anyway, you can't go into a second half with 17 yards of offense. You're not gonna win that game.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, you talking about the Eagles.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

You can't do that.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Because you definitely want to be playing your best football going towards the playoff.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

You need that momentum. You need that momentum going into the playoff.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Yes, I agree. I definitely agree with you. But the Falcons win, they get an opportunity to close out the season on a positive note. If they can go. If they can beat New. They got New Orleans, right? Yeah, they got New Orleans. New Orleans. They hate New Orleans. Hate them. And. And they hate New Orleans. The fans hate each other. Hey. Oh, you would think that this is Baltimore, Pittsburgh, or this is the Cowboys Commanders. It used to be.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

You know the derogatory term, the Eagles Giant. You. You would think it was one of those, ooh, it's bad.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

You gotta understand. And I'm just finding out about it. I'm just finding out about it. You know, here I go. Trying to. Trying. Trying to have everybody come together and have a Kumbaya moment. You know, it's a great Game. Have the Saints fans and Falcons fans sit together and enjoy the game at this point. And they told me, ocho, okay, wait a minute.

[Chad Johnson]

And it wasn't. They weren't very hospitable when Hurricane Katrina hit either.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

They weren't.

[Chad Johnson]

They wasn't. That's what they like. Ah, don't break your ass up here. Go down to Houston to go to G. Go somewhere. Don't come here.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

I was like, come on, man.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Yeah, that's funny.

[Chad Johnson]

We can. Y' all can resume that at a later date time. It's always go. It's been that. It's always going.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

You know what I would love to know. I would love to know the backstory on why the hatred is the way it is. I understand if it's, you know, it's a division game, you have your team that you love, but it's a real hate when I talk to all Saints fans, like there's.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, they don't. They don't like each other. For real.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

God damn. What happened? I need. I need the backstory on why it really is like that.

[Chad Johnson]

Oo. Do you think they could have called that? Cuz to me, it was an arm bar on Alford on 228. Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Yeah. You can't do that now. When your hand fighting, it's okay, but you behind, if behind even and you're hand fighting, that's one thing. That's. That's fair. You have an opportunity to make a play for the ball, but knowing that you behind and the only way. What you can do is it's almost. It's almost a better move, too.

[Chad Johnson]

Un.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

You grab and it is. You hold one hand down the best way. The best way you can. But it's hard for the ref who's.

[Chad Johnson]

It's hard for the ref whose body is being blocked by the receiver to see it that. But guess who's not blocked. That back judge. The side judge might not can see it, but there's a back judge up under the goal post. That's far enough back there. He can see it.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

You can see it.

[Chad Johnson]

Hell yeah, you can see.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

I think he blocked. I think he blocked off on. I think. Because you got to think with the way Tutu was going on the deep ball, the ball was over his end, over his. Over his inside outside.

[Chad Johnson]

I know it was over his outside shoulder.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Remember?

[Chad Johnson]

It was like.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

I mean, the ref can't. The ref can't see what's going on on the other side.

[Chad Johnson]

Think about it. If I'm going like this, I'm coming towards you and I reach. He's got my left arm pin. So theoretically, if the, if the side judge is blocked, there's the back judge right there.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

And you know what the side judge is he all the way down the field too. Can he even see that? I don't even think the side just got a visual.

[Chad Johnson]

He should. Because they'd be throwing flags out of nowhere from somewhere somebody be having yellow flags. Let's get in the stands. But it was a great. And I'm not so sure Ocho had he caught it because there was 10 seconds on the clock. I'm not so sure Ocho. They could have got everybody to the line and killed it to get a chance to get a ball.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Of timeouts already.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, it was out of time.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

That would have been tough.

[Chad Johnson]

I don't know. I don't know. Ojo. If they could have got down there in 10 seconds, them linemen.

[Trainer Games Narrator]

Hold on.

[Chad Johnson]

That.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

That's another thing. They, they, they. The NFL might need to go back.

[Chad Johnson]

We.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Why don't you allow people to at least get themselves set before you start?

[Chad Johnson]

No, they ain't got nothing to do with me. Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. I'm letting that clock run. Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. They ain't got nothing to do with me.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Yeah, I think that's unfair. You should, you should at least give the team opportunity to get to the ball once the referee sets the ball and then let the clock go.

[Chad Johnson]

The clock's going regardless. So you try to get them old college rules.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Drake May just took a big lead in the MVP. Updated odds across all sports book. Drake may have a total of two incompletions in week 17. Meanwhile, Matthew Stafford threw three interceptions. Matthew Stafford now has updated. He has 42 touchdowns, eight interceptions. Drake May has 34 touchdowns, eight interceptions. But he was exquisite yesterday. And everybody saw it. And Matthew Stafford, everybody saw the three interceptions. So unless something. And I'm trying to think, who does the jets play? The Dolphins. Just play. No, I mean, I mean, the, the Patriots played it off. Played it off. Yeah. The, the Bills got a bye week.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

You know what? I did too, yesterday. I don't know. Yesterday when we asked about who, who, who would be the mvp and I, I chose. I chose Matt Stafford. But what Matt Stafford is doing, he's supposed to be doing that. We've seen him do that before. And you know, I want to make. I want to change my pick and, and not because it's a nice performance, because I look at the body of work that Drake May has put over throughout the entirety of this season and, and how he's put the Patriots on his back. And the reason, I mean honestly the sole reason why they're in contention this year and having a chance at going to the playoffs and, and playing for Lombardi Trophy in absence of Tom Brady is, is because of him. Not because Josh. No, not because of Josh McDaniels. Not because of Mike Vrabel. But Drake May because he's the one that has to make those decisions with the ball and he's done extremely well in protecting the ball and making the most of all his opportunities.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, he, he's played extremely well. But I, I think we can't, we can't say enough about what Josh has done and Josh ability to, to get on that wavelength. He under the quarterback, he understands the quarterback. He always plays to his quarterback strengths. We saw this when he had Tom Brady, but. And then you saw. I think, I think he. No, that was Bill o' Brien there because what you call him had already left Charlie Weiss and I think Bill O' Brien was there then. Wasn't Bill O' Brien the OC in 2008 when Matt Castle came in after.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

After Tom tore his knee?

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, I think Bill o' Brien was there. Yeah, he was. Because remember when they went to the super bowl, it lost.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

He was the wide receivers coach.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. Bill o' Brien was the head coach, wasn't he? I mean, the oc. Yeah. But you look at what he's been able to do with the quarter when he had M. Jones. M. Jones looked really, really well. Went to the Pro bowl, they went to the playoffs. Then all of a sudden. No, it wasn't all of a sudden. Josh McDaniels got the head coaching job.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Oakland first. Oakland.

[Chad Johnson]

And instead of, instead of Coach Belichick hiring somebody. Cuz look, Coach Belichick always keeps. He rarely goes outside. Normally the people that he hires, he hires from within. If you go back and study his history, Bill o' Brien was already on the staff. And everybody that normally that he hires is already on his staff. Rarely, rarely does he go outside. And that's why he had Matt, Patricia and Joe Judge take over the OC OC job when he should have gone outside. If you didn't trust somebody that was already on your staff, you can't hide. You can't hire a special teams coach and a defensive coordinator all of a sudden to be co offensive coordinators and being a young players there, you just can't do that. But Matthew Stafford. Yeah. He definitely hurt himself tonight. It reminds me of a situation that Patrick Mahomes was, was leading in the MVP race. And, and they played the Atlanta Falcons and they won, but Patrick Mahomes did not play well and Aaron Rodgers threw like three touchdowns and took over the lead and he ended up winning the mvp. So, so we might have a very, very similar situation on our hands. 63% of the chat is taking Drake May for the MVP. 37% is taking Matthew Stafford.

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[Chad Johnson]

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[Chad Johnson]

Ocho an NFL agent say the biggest story of the off season could Be the Ravens trading Lamar Jackson. The biggest story in the offseason is going to be Lamar. That's going to be crazy. According to the Athletic, the agent love Minnesota as an under the radar destination. The vikings would send J.J. mcCarthy. Don't you do that. We don't want. They don't want him as part of the deal. Giving both quarterbacks a fresh start. Jackson on artificial turf in a dome. Look out McCarthy with Harbaugh work well. No, send him to San Diego. If you. If Minnesota said, okay, if y' all want to trade, we'll send him. Send him to his old court. That's. That's John. That's not Jim. But anyway, Ocho McCarthy with a Harbaugh work well in Michigan, whereas the coach is Jim, not John. No. Ish. Lamar being traded could be similar to the Mavericks trading Luka Doncic. The agent said the Mavericks are. Are. We're complaining about Lucas toughness, taking care of his body work ethic. Luther get. Luca gets moved, he loses all that weight, he gets in shape and now he has a new lease on life. Lamar might be the same. The key difference from Baltimore standpoint is that the Ravens, unlike the Mavericks, would be getting strong value in return.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

No, they're not strong value.

[Chad Johnson]

What struck man, y' all need to stop. At least Anthony Davis. Oh, Joe. At least Anthony Davis was an all NBA selection, all defensive selection. He was a top 75 player and he won a championship. What the hell is J.J. mcCarthy done in the NFL?

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Okay, I, I see where you're going with that. Listen, I, I like, I like the move. I. Anytime I, I'll say this, I'll say this. Anytime they're on their rumblings, they're rumblings. When it comes to a player of this magnitude, there's always a little truth to it. Yeah. You know, where there's smoke, there's fire. You know, and if you're going to get traded, I mean, I, I like the destination of Lamar actually coming home and, and, and the Dolphins being able to rebuild and doing what they need to do. Minnesota, that's a nice destination as well. You pair, you pair goddamn Lamar Jackson with one of the better receivers in the league and, and Justin Jefferson and Addison and Hawkinson. That would be. Oh, hell no. That would almost be unfair either way.

[Chad Johnson]

But I don't want. But I don't want J.J. mcCarthy that people talk about, oh, that's great value. That ain't no great value.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Who said it was great value, huh?

[Chad Johnson]

I guess the, the agent that's doing.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

All this talking he don't know. He probably needs. I checked. That's all, that's all he needs. I check but I don't, I don't know.

[Chad Johnson]

But what I don't get. Ocho, he also said and he finished up with this. If Lamar were put on the block, even quietly, you are a team that, that, that, that is not established at the quarterback. You do whatever it takes to, to get him. Ocho, they had an opportunity. Now there's no there, there's. This is not to say the Ravens wouldn't have matched, but he had a non exclusive. You could have had Lamar Jackson for two first round draft picks. You could have had him. Now again, that's not to say the Ravens wouldn't have matched nobody. No the. Think about how many people needed quarterbacks three years ago. All these teams that have drafted quarterbacks, whether it's Atlanta, whether it's Carolina, whether it's Houston, whether it's the Saints, the Giants. I mean it's half, it's more than a half. The league needed the quarterback and nobody took him. And he was an in league MVP at the time. So I'm confused.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

He wasn't going away regardless. Huh? He wasn't going there regardless Even, even if the Ravens had the match, which is what they would have done. He was. Lamar Jackson was their identity. Lamar Jackson was their team. He was the face of their franchise. There was nowhere else they can go that would make a difference.

[Chad Johnson]

Can you imagine him in Atlanta on that turf, in that city. Oo that what I said, man.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

I had to take my glasses off, man. Listen, hey, great London would be Jean, huh? With Kyle Pitts, with that, with that defense. I'm not saying they, the Eagles defense. I'm not saying that the Bronco defense, but they're, they're good enough.

[Chad Johnson]

I don't know. I don't know if they get Lamar, they're going to be able to get Bijan because they're probably not going to be that bad to be able to be. So that would have been. Boy, can you imagine him in the backfield.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Lamar and Bijan, they think about them, them two running rpo.

[Chad Johnson]

The result that zone read, man, stop playing. But you know what? I like Bijan. I like Bijan as an eyeback. If you notice most of his stuff happens in the eye. If you go back and look at, if you look at Ocho, if you look at Saturday game, what formation did they have King Henry in?

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Oh, he, he was back there. Seven yards, heels on the line, straight downhill with Pritchard. With Pritchard right in front of him most of the time. Hey like hey Pritchard looking like hey, looking like Lorenzo Neal. Oh my bad, I said it wrong.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, it's all good. Hell, people don't realize he 300 pounds moving like that. That fullback weighs 300. Yes.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Hey, he don't.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, he got Patrick Rashad.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Yes, that's, that's a well put together 300 because he don't look nothing like that.

[Chad Johnson]

I know he don't.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Pre Shark.

[Chad Johnson]

They don't really throw it to him. See they don't use him like they use Kyle Uscheck and San Fran. San Fran. Hey, they'll throw, they'll throw him a screen. They'll throw him the ball down the field. He go down the field and catch him like hold on how you get your, you know it's called counter to a similar play we used to call F2 Split where you know we the fullback fake it, get up the field and they throw it to him behind once the linebacker step up. But they throw it to Kyle use check going down the field. But look this is, this might be a lot of talk like you said. Oo there's a little truth even in a lie and maybe we're going to find out. We just know this. They're going to have to do something. They're not going to let him play on that 70 plus million dollar cap hit next year. They're going to do something. This team is going to look different next year than it does now. They've got to, they've got. It is an absolute must other than getting Lamar Jackson contract under control. Whether you extend him or whatever the case may be. You've got to get past rushers. All you have to do is look at last night's game when they couldn't get to the quarterback. You end up having a score of 42 to 30.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

I got, I got a question for you too. What if to be able to get the pass rushes, what if you want to get the pieces that you need to do and you, you, you end up letting Lamar go somewhere else to have the cap room to do just.

[Chad Johnson]

That, that defeat the purpose.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

But then that puts you further behind because then offensively where you go from there. Exactly, where do you go from there? Because you're not going to get a quarter. You're not going to get another Lamar.

[Chad Johnson]

Jackson now you're not gonna get an equal quarterback to Lamars because the ones.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

That would be equal to that are the elite number one quarterbacks on other teams.

[Chad Johnson]

This, they're dug in, they're not going anywhere. My problem is, is that the problem that I've had with this, this year's team is that Derek Henry should have had damn near 1900 yards again.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Yeah, well, he ain't that far.

[Chad Johnson]

Look at when they give him the football 20 to 20. The man carried it 36 times and he wasn't tired. No, you do, Ojo, you do realize he's like 30 plus yards away from 1500.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

And people. Oh, he had a quiet think about it. He was, he was like 70 yards away, almost 80 yards away from 2K. He's already gotten a 2,000 yard season on his belt. Then he comes, Then he gets a 1921. The first time there's. Now he comes back, he's at almost 1400. Now, we know the Steelers are styled against the run and they're going to do everything they can to try to take that away, but I don't care. Take it away.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

I meant to say that yesterday too, especially when you, but you had me so upset about your, your thought process on starting Huntley. I forgot to say, I'm like, wait a minute. Well, you can give him the ball 30 times a game, you know, and do what you did last week, but you also playing the goddamn Steelers defense, you that you not fa. Just impose your will on and run up and down the field like you want to.

[Chad Johnson]

I think he had, I think he had, he had about 70 yards last time they played.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Oo, yeah, them boy, them boys coming down here and they coming to the party now.

[Chad Johnson]

But the, the, the, the, the problem is, is that it's just hard. Oo, you know, it's hard when you pay a quarterback that kind of money to turn to say, okay, well, we just hand the ball off. When you got a Joe Burrow, when you got those guys like that. It's just hard because I paid you all this money to do what? Ocho?

[Odoo Representative]

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[Chad Johnson]

But see, and I think the problem that we're running into, that you run into. Do we think any less of John Elway because he had Terrell Davis? No, we don't. He won the bowl. Everybody says John Elway won two Super Bowls. He was the MVP in his last one. Let that sink in. So if Lamar has to hand the ball, if Derrick Henry has to run him to a championship, or if, if James Cook runs Josh Allen to a championship. So we gonna hold that?

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

No, absolutely not.

[Chad Johnson]

We don't hold that against Troy Aman. We don't hold against Terry Bradshaw, because he had Emmett Smith and. And Terry had Franco Harris. We don't hold that against him. But now, all of a sudden, now, if a quarterback, an elite quarterback has a nice running back, well, he got carried. Do you realize. I mean, look up. Go back and look at the Steelers and look at what they had defensively and offensively. A Pro bowl center. Excuse me, a Hall of Fame center, a Hall of Fame running back, two hall of Fame receivers, five hall of Famers on defense, and a Hall of Fame owner and a Hall of Fame coach. But don't nobody say he got carried. Look at what Emmett had. Michael Irvin is in the hall of Fame. Larry Allen is in the hall of Fame. Emmett Smith is in the hall of Fame. Charles Haley is in the hall of Fame. Deion Sanders is in the hall of Fame. Darren Woodson is on the ballot to be in the hall of Fame. Nobody says these guys got carried.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

You know what?

[Chad Johnson]

John Elway, Shannon Sharp's in the hall of Fame. Gary Zimmerman's in the hall of Fame. Terrell Davis is in the hall of Fame. Steve Atwater is in the hall of Fame. Nobody says seven got carried.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

It all depends on.

[Chad Johnson]

But we want to put. Because we want to devalue the guy. Because we want to prop. We want to keep our guy up here, we'll devalue that guy. The hell with y'. All.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

By making up a reason on why.

[Chad Johnson]

Right? Ain't nobody. Ain't nobody. Look, Saquan, they would. Ain't nobody. Judge Jaylen Hurst did that. He threw. Yeah, it's nice to have a running game, but ain't nobody talking about no caring man. Y. We got. Y' all gotta stop this. Go back and look at the game, the super bowl that Peyton won and see how many yards they rush for. Go back and look at it.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

That. Damn, I forgot who that was. That was Ed. Who was the running edge.

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[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

No. Joseph AD and what's the other guy name. They had almost 200 yards rushing against the Bears. We. We got to stop this. It's okay. At the end of the day, I'm trying to win. I don't care who getting the credit. They like, man, you ain't do nothing in the Super Bowl. I got a ring and it got just as many diamonds as John's got. It got just as many diamonds as TDs. Got my ring got just as many diamonds as Ray's guy. And all three of those guys with the MVPs. My ring just as big as theirs.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Well, you Got your ring in there with you.

[Chad Johnson]

They had a safe deposit box in in.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

I want to see. You know I ain't never seen no simple bow ring. I won a few of them on.

[Chad Johnson]

Mad but Dominique Rose Rhodes.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

I remember Dominique. I ain't never seen no super bowl ring up close. I want to see it.

[Chad Johnson]

But it ate them things and got made the things so big now. Ocho.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Oh, you're a small.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. They they like normal size. I don't know. I don't know. When they got you. You remember those, those rings, those three finger rings? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Back in the 80s I don't know.

[Chad Johnson]

When they started making super bowl rings that big, but that's what they are now. And I think each year because somebody like oh man, man, you see the Patriots man the Patriots ring this big. Well, I got to be bigger than theirs. And they said man you saw the Patriots man. Oh, you saw the Chiefs. The Chiefs. Like I got to be bigger than the Patriots. And then you get, you get the Rams say I got to be bigger than the Chiefs and you get a. The Eagle says I've got to be bigger. So I mean pretty soon don't Joe. Pretty soon they gonna get a medallion. They gonna be looking like flavor play about that thing.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Hey hey, I'm get me a ringmaid. Give me a ring mate.

[Chad Johnson]

Well you go to. You go to Jason Beverly Hills. What I think there's only like that I can call off the top of my head. Justin's Balfour because Jostin and Balfour used to do class. Okay now most everybody when they go to get rings. NBA, wnba, NHL.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Yeah Jada made when I was playing he made a couple of pieces for me.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah I got a couple of people from Jay, you're a good dude man. I like it. John Arbaugh announced today it will be if it's to be to be determined whether Lamar Jackson can play Sunday night against the Steelers which you crown the AFC north champ. Harbaugh said he's coming off a very serious injury and he's working at it. I I think we'll know a lot more Wednesday. James Harrison and James Harrison had some interesting thoughts on Lamar Snoop Hunley debate. Let's take a listen to what Debo had to say on he Debo and Joe early this morning and right now I hope Lamar comes back bro. Cause I would rather you you rather be because Huntley can get a gear right now that Lamar Jackson can't get to or is afraid to get to because he's going to pull something. And I also think that with Lamar in there, we gonna have a better chance of winning. Simply because the Ravens, I feel, would be stupid enough not to give Derrick Henry the ball. 35 to 42.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Ah, I like, I like what he said. I like what he said and.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, you like what he said. But when I said that last night, you ain't like, hold on.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

I like what he said, but that's not gonna happen. I was. What was the first thing I said? Lamar. If Lamar is healthy, he's gonna play. Matter of fact, nobody's healthy this time of the season. Right. Lamar has a back contusion with that knee that went to his back. Right. So whatever he needs to do, he's playing his last game. Who gives him the best chance to win? Having Lamar Jackson at quarterback. If Lamar Jackson plays right, and then you have to worry about the threat of Derrick Henry as well. And you have to worry about the threat of Lamar Jackson and his legs. Even if it's lamar Jackson at 70%, he still can be efficient and do things that other quarterbacks can't do. I think it's okay use that form because you know Lamar is hurt. What do you do? We're going to put the onus of the offense on Derrick Henry's shoulders instead of Lamar Jackson. I mean, as a coach.

[Chad Johnson]

But if that's the case, why not go with it? Why not go with a healthy guy? Give me a, give me Lamar. Since he's been back, his rush totals because he's, he's running for a career low. He was averaging 50 plus yards a game.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

You, you, you do have to understand Lamar. Lamar is a throw, a throw first quarterback. Now. He's not just dropping back. Oh, my first read or my first read? Not there.

[Chad Johnson]

I'm not worried. I'm not worried about it. I'm not. I want him to do it. Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. As the defensive coordinator, you more concerned about his arms or his legs? Both.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Because he's improved. Hell, as a passer, he just threw for 41 and 5 last year. What we talking about?

[Chad Johnson]

I'm just Ocho. I'm just saying I'm more concerned about.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

His legs because he's a threat there as well. But this is the same quarterback that just threw for 41 touchdowns and five last year. Yes, he had Aaron Rodgers in his prime numbers.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay. In 12 stars this year, Lamar Jackson is 6 and 6. He's thrown for less than 193 yards per game, which ranks 24th among quarterbacks with at least 10 games played. His 340 yards rushing is a career low. And filling in for Jackson, Huntley has won both of his starts, beating the playoff Chicago Bears and the Green Bay Packers. In those starts, Lamar Huntley has completed 79% of his passes. 293 yards, two touchdowns, no interceptions. He's also running for 113 yards and two starts. Oh, now one guy in 12 starts have a 340 yards rushing. Another guy in two starts have 113 yards rushing. And he ain't beat no pushovers because I know what you want to say in chat. I know what y' all want to say. Are the Chicago Bears any good?

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Hey, they. Are they good? They are great.

[Chad Johnson]

No, no, I'm just. I'm just. They're great.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Like Tony the Tiger say they're great this year.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, well, I'm just. It's. It's a rhetorical question, though, for you to answer. So, hey, chat. Are the Bears any good, or do we think the Green Bay packers are any good? That's all I'm saying. Ocho, I'm looking at it, like, since he's been back, I don't know if he's afraid to. And I think he's afraid to run, Ocho, because he knows that Hamstring is not 100%. And the LA. Ocho, you know, when you got a hamstring, you ain't f. To open up. I don't give a damn what nobody say. Anybody say you going to open up when you got something tweaked. Have never had anything tweaked. Because if you had a tweak. Nah, son. Hey, son, you got to get it, bro. This all I got. Ain't no getting. So it's going to be. Look, it's going to be very interesting to see, and I think the thing is the biggest thing. Look, sometimes you have to save us for ourselves, Oto, because like you say, we play football. We want to play. We want to play. That's in us. I want to be there for my guys, but I think Lamar is going to have to be. Be honest with himself. Can I. If. If the rubber needs to meet the road and I need. And I need to open up, will I be able to open it up? See, Ocho, see, they used to have a thing. Chat. Anybody that's my age or a little older, you know, they used to have a stock like in your car, Ocho, you could only mash the pedal down so far before it was governor yeah. That you can only die so far before it was stop on you. But you know, we got slick. We take it out.

[Odoo Representative]

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[Chad Johnson]

Hey, so that's the question. Because they only wanted the car to go so fast. That's also why they got that little mechanism right there, Ocho, where the car hit that thing. Far as it go. That's far as it go right there. But see, then guess what they say, you know what? They want to go faster. I want something to run out of numbers. I don't know where to stop. Go back right. Go back around to 10, 15.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Hey, I, I, oh, that oh, that's tough. Boy, that's tough.

[Chad Johnson]

But that's why you, that's why you the head coach. That's why you make the decisions. You're gonna have to assess this in practice. You have to look at him in practice, Ocho, and see. And it's hard because I don't want to wait. When I go to the gym about you, I don't really be doing no warming up. Them reps count. I go in the gym and get right up under something and start lifting. Jordan take about 45 minutes to warm up. I said, man, them reps, they count. I got like 60 reps in me. If I warm up for 20, I got 40 reps. I ain't doing all that. No, I'm good to go. I get in there, hey, I'm good. Give me a. So that's the thing is Ocho, I don't want him to do anything that, that are jeopardizer or aggravated or irritate. Aggravate means to work, make worse. Irritate means to bother. I just don't like a gnat like a fly, Ocho.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

It's irritating.

[Chad Johnson]

It bothersome flies. They don't make things worth ain't nothing.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

I'll be, Yeah, I just don't, I don't like the discourses with Lamar having a down year, having injuries to jump deal with. And now we hear rumblings coming out of, you know, the facility and the organization and about trade and just stuff like that. It just, it just shouldn't come about because you would never hear anything like that about Patrick Mahomes. You never hear anything like that about Joe Burrow or Josh Allen, any of these other top, top tier quarterbacks like Jackson.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, well, you see Josh. What Didn't Josh get that money? You see Josh got his money because remember they said they was going to take care of this. Lamar don't need to worry about anything. So I don't know if that was in the back of his mind, Ocho. He saw what Josh Allen got. Josh Allen got paid, got 265 million fully guaranteed. 303, you know, guarantee, whatever the case may be, Ocho. And I don't know if that maybe that was in the back of his mind, maybe like, oh, bro, y' all told me y' all go take care of me. I wasn't gonna be in this situation, but yet.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Hold on, hold on. And this is the thing about it. If you don't want to take care of him, go ahead and let him go. Somebody else will play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

[Chad Johnson]

Absolutely, absolutely. So we're gonna find out. We'll. We'll know more. Tomorrow is an off day. Nobody really doing anything then. But as Wednesday and Thursday, we'll see how he progress. And they'll start saying, Lamar, look, you know, they're probably not gonna have Lamar do a whole lot while practice is open. The media there, they normally come the first 15 minutes of an open practice and then they have to get out of there. So they won't. The media will not have a really good indication of what's going on. But we'll see Friday and as, as the week, as it wanes down, later in the week, as it moves closer to Sunday, we'll see what, what they're saying.

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[Chad Johnson]

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[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Damn man.

[Chad Johnson]

Adam Schefter estimate the Steelers Ravens upcoming NFL season finale will have a border a broader implication on John Harbaugh and Mike Tomlins job security. Shefter said today somebody's going to lose that game and somebody's going to lose and when somebody loses that game we heard the Steeler fans chanting fire Mike Tomlin earlier this year. We've heard Ravens fans saying they could should be a conversation about John Harbaugh after the season. One of those fan bases is going to be unhappy. She after says in the realm of possibility that Mike Tomlin leaves the Steeler where they lost on Sunday and goes does TV next season or coaches somewhere else in 2026. Ocho I don't see a scenario in which Mike Tomlin leaves and goes into tv. But what do you think is going to happen? What like, like you said, somebody's got to lose.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Somebody has to lose. Honestly, I, I don't see Mike Tomlin one thing the Steelers have never done. The Steelers have never fired anybody. They've never fired anybody if I'm not mistaken.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, not anybody since 1969.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

I don't think it's going to happen now. It's, it's, it's never been a part of what they do. I just now Harbaugh on other, on other instance. I mean are the, are the Ravens closer to winning with Harbaugh at the helm? Do they need another voice like you always say in that building you maybe so. I'm not sure how they feel about them. There's so many different things that need to go go right for the Ravens now for them to get back in contention and be able to compete, you know, for Lombardi, you know, year in, a year out but one they gotta, you gotta get your quarterback situation right.

[Chad Johnson]

I don't think either's close. I don't think either is close to winning the super bowl.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

But Listen, well, changing coaches put you further behind eight ball. It don't put you no closer. You tear it down and build it back up.

[Chad Johnson]

Let me ask you a question. Did it move Chicago closer or further away?

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

What did they have in place? What's the one important piece of every team?

[Chad Johnson]

You said they got Lamar Jackson. You say they got it. What they need? Well, damn. I need you to make up your mind. Either Lamar is that or he isn't.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Yes, he is that.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay, then.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

So maybe the quarterback is gonna do.

[Chad Johnson]

What I didn't say. We're talking about coaching. We don't move past.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Okay, okay, okay, okay. Well, yeah, changing, Changing the coaching. Well, hell, harbor don't play defense, he don't play db, and he definitely ain't no defense. Y', all, you know what, you know what pieces your team need to be able to compete, and you. They don't have it right now. They just don't.

[Chad Johnson]

I don't think either team is close, and I don't think either team is close with the coaches that they have.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

How about this? What you think about Brian Flores coming to, coming to Baltimore?

[Chad Johnson]

Who's going to be his oc? Do I think I, I Look, I, I, I, Me personally. They need personnel. They need better personnel. On defense, they need a, they need a right guard, but they need defense out the yin yang. Could they use another receiver? Yeah, they need a big, I mean, I don't know what, what's, what happened with Rashad Bateman this year? He is a bigger receiver, but they need, they, they, they need a big receiver. Watch, Kansas City's gonna go get a big receiver.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

God damn, Kansas City got a slew of them boys over there, huh? I mean, we, I mean, we talked about Rasheed Rice last year, like he was the second coming of.

[Chad Johnson]

Ain't got a huge catch radius when you got guys 5, 8, 5, 9, 5, 10. Ocho, how big is the catch radius?

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

He tall, ain't he? I thought he was like 6465.

[Chad Johnson]

Man, please, not that.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Oh, I'm. Yeah, but you know, on tv, I ain't never seen him in person.

[Chad Johnson]

How tall is Rashid Rice? Is she right? Six foot.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

But he looked tall as hell on tv.

[Chad Johnson]

No, he don't look tall to me. They said he's 6:1.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Okay, okay, so he, he, he, he.

[Chad Johnson]

How tall is Hollywood?

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Okay, Hollywood short. They short. I mean, I see them all the time. They from the crib.

[Chad Johnson]

How tall, how tall is Juju? Is juju six foot tall?

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Juju not tall either.

[Chad Johnson]

Say juju. Six one.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Shoot, I'm. I'm six four. They could bring me back.

[Chad Johnson]

I think I might be able to outrun juju, though.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Juju? Never a burner. He ain't no burner.

[Chad Johnson]

So if he wasn't a burner eight years ago, how fast is he now?

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

A little bit slower, A tad bit. He might not know it.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, he knows it. You know.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Hey, these teams need a weapon, man. I'm always available. I'm always available.

[Chad Johnson]

I look at it like this here, Ojo. If a team can fire Bill Belichick with six Super Bowls and 10 Super bowl appearances, God dang it, they can fire Mike Tomlin.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

And John, listen, when you use that analogy, that perspective, you know, for, for better context, that's, that's, that's a possibility. But you gotta understand, what message are you sending your team, your players and your fans when you say, you know what, we letting Harbaugh go, we let Mike Tomlin go. We starting all the way from scratch.

[Chad Johnson]

Let me ask you this. When you throw. We throw furniture out and put new furniture in, what messages you sending?

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Well, you ain't got the good. You ain't got the furniture to bring in. How about that?

[Chad Johnson]

What you mean, what furniture? You gonna bring in a new coach's furniture?

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

You got new furniture but still got the same people sitting on it. Well, yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

What's gonna be the difference? Yeah, you the same people. When your grandma got new, got a new couch, it got the old couch. Your st. Yo, you and Chauncey was. Still had your ass on the couch. Hell no.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Hey, hey, hey. I tell you what, like all jokes aside, the Ravens organization, the Steelers organization, they have some tough decisions to make. I'm very, very tough ones. And, and honestly, for me, the fact that the way Lamar is being done, because he's had this one injury seat, this one injury prone season, and the stuff coming out about him that we knew nothing about, and all of a sudden, people that are not in that building, they all of a sudden know about it means it's coming from inside the house, you know, so, you know, at that point, I, I would much rather him have new scenery, go somewhere else and start over.

[Chad Johnson]

I give you a prime example.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Look at Andy Reid.

[Chad Johnson]

They fired Andy Reid in Philly. He went to Kansas City. Now he's the hall of Fame. Now you can make a case that he's a top five coach in the history of the game. Jeffrey Lurie had to say, you know what? You've taken us as far as we can go. Maybe Mike Tomlin and John Harbaugh is taking these teams as far as they can take them. Maybe somebody else need to navigate, and that's okay. I'm not saying they're bad coaches, but maybe it's just time for a different voice to be heard in the locker room.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Damn. Hey, you hear that? Time for a new voice.

[Chad Johnson]

It's outlier. Everybody's an outlier. So what. What was Tom Brady. Tom Brady with? He's an outlier. Let me get this right. Peyton Manning, he's an outlier.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Of course they're outliers, but I'm just saying.

[Chad Johnson]

So what? You just hold. So you just hold on to him. I guess it sounds good, though. Mike Tomlin has never had a losing season. I thought the job was to win. I thought the job was to win and win championships. So in the last decade, how close have the Steelers come to winning a championship? Realistically, let's be honest. Making the playoffs just because you make the player. Come on. Because they've lost the first round every time in the last decade. So realistically, how close have they been? I'm waiting on you, Steeler fans. I know y' all black and yellow and all that. The terrible towels. How close, Steeler fans, realistically, in the last decade, have you been to winning a championship?

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

You know, you got affiliation over there in Baltimore, huh? You played there. You won a ring there. You know that.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, but I'm realistic. I was realistic with the Broncos.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

I don't even see where I'm going with it, though, if that. That opportunity for, you know, a head coaching position.

[Chad Johnson]

No. Hell, no.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Can you imagine that? Coach Sharp. No Coach Sharp.

[Chad Johnson]

I want no part. I like talking about football. I don't want to look at no tape. I don't want to look at tape and try to evaluate players and bring players in and none of that. My time.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Exactly what you're looking for. You know, exactly what you.

[Chad Johnson]

I do.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Need a perfect person for the job, and that's. That's the problem.

[Liberty Mutual Representative]

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[Chad Johnson]

Is what I looking for, ocho. Something about 5, 6, 5, 7, 5, 8 with some hood, hugging jeans. I mean, hold on. That. What I'm trying to evaluate. I mean, see, since you say I know what I'm looking for.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Hey, hey. Okay. Okay. How many. How many. How long before you off probation?

[Chad Johnson]

You know, I got. I got, you know, about 30 days.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

30. Are you good?

[Chad Johnson]

You good?

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[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

You good? Hey, but, hey, listen, I'm first one on board. Lamar. I know Lamar might be watching, honestly. Oh, hey, it's so funny. All them, all them boys be tuned in and they don't even, but they don't, they don't type nothing in the, in the chat. They be tuned in.

[Chad Johnson]

Ocho insane stat. The Steelers are winless.04 and 1 in the last five games versus teams entering with eight plus games below.500, tying the longest streak in NFL history. In 22, they lost. Excuse me. In 2020, they lost to the Bengals, who were 210 and 1. In 21, they tied the 08 Lions. In 2023, they lost to the 2 and 10 Cardinals. In 23, they lost to the 2 and10 Patriots. In 25, they lost to the 3 and 12 Browns.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Hey, you think Sterling want a coach?

[Chad Johnson]

What?

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

No, bro.

[Chad Johnson]

I can't get him to come on. Once a month you talk about coach.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

I'm, I'm just saying, hey, you, you, you're a brilliant mind when it comes to the game. And I'm telling you, you are probably what not only the NFL needs, but the players in today's game need. Giving them players listen. It's a different era. But you coming in with those your old ways and mixing that and balancing it in moderation, allowing them to, to have a little structural discipline. I'm telling you, I'm telling you, you keep denying, you keep denying God's calling. And that's the problem. Yeah, I come be your assistant.

[Chad Johnson]

Now. I'm good. I don't watch enough tape as it is. I, I, I don't, I ain't got time for guys to come and be coming in late because I don't, I don't do the excuse thing.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

They're not gonna come in late with you. That's the point I'm trying to make.

[Chad Johnson]

I, I, I think the thing is because I had to learn, I had to learn with Club Shay. Cuz you know, I'm thinking the interview, they say one o', clock, they say 12 o'.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Clock.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay, 12 o' clock, we starting, we're starting 12:15, 12:30. One, 1:30. Oh, you know, 1:30, 2 o'. Clock.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Famous people, they, them famous people be on their own time, they ain't got no regard for nobody else. Time.

[Chad Johnson]

They the one that set the time up.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Yeah, they got, how you set the time up and late do head makeup and all that. You notice when we, we did our Club Shay say you notice I was there 30, 40 minutes early.

[Chad Johnson]

I wouldn't go quite 30, 40 minutes early. But you were, you were, you were.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

On time 30, 40 minutes early. Because I was outside smoking a cigar. I beat you there.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, I said it was gonna be at 1 o'. Clock. I got there at 12:45 and I.

[Co-host (possibly a football analyst)]

Got there 12:10 because I knew I wanted to smoke and drink my coffee outside. Yeah, see, I'd be on. I'd be on time, like my God, on time.

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What a matchup we got, y'.

[Chad Johnson]

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[Announcer]

This is that classic HBCU vibe. Non stop action. The band is rocking and the crowd lit. Chance echo drum beat everybody showing that school pride. Game like this. Yeah, it calls for an ice cold Coca Cola. Ah, crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right there. Yeah, that taste always hits the right note. Just like the band at halftime. And just like that, we're back at passionate fish. School colors everywhere and an ice cold Coca Cola. That's a winning combo no matter the sport, no matter the yard. Everybody knows fan work is thirsty work. So grab a Coca Cola and keep that HBCU pride going.

[Trainer Games Narrator]

10 athletes will face the toughest job interview in fitness that will push past physical and mental breaking points. You are the fittest of the fit. Only one of you will leave here with an IFIT contract for $250,000. This is where mindset comes in. Someone will be eliminated.

[Chad Johnson]

Pressure is coming down.

[Pluvicto Advertisement Narrator]

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[Julian Edelman]

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[Trainer Games Narrator]

Season 2 of unrivaled basketball is here and the talent is unreal. The best women's players on the planet are running it back with even bigger moments and and bigger stakes. Don't miss as Paige Becker, Snafeeza Collier, Kelsey Plumb, Brianna Stewart and more. Take the court and redefine the game. This isn't your regular season. This is unrivaled, where the pace is faster, the energy is higher and every athlete shines unrivaled basketball season two, sponsored by Samsung Galaxy, tips off January 5 on TNT, TruTV and HBO.

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