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Nightcap Hour 1: Bills FALLS to Patriots in SHOCKING LOSS + Eagles COLLAPSE LATE vs Broncos + Unc & Ocho CALL OUT Sauce Gardner for STEALING Jets’ MONEY
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Shannon Sharpe
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Why you would you.
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Shannon Sharpe
You won't do. Boy, you know better.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Boy.
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Shannon Sharpe
We do head buses. We them boys. I'm your favorite dog, Shannon Shark. That is my partner. His team.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Whoo.
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Shannon Sharpe
Boy, the line did they got a running back throwing a touchdown on y'. All. No, no, no. Don't put your finger down. You ain't just you, you. Nope, I didn't call on you. Just yet. He's from Liberty City Bingo Ring of fame honoree, former pro bowler Madden Ratings adjuster. That's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button. Do us a favor. Go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed. Wherever you get your podcast from. We'd like to thank each and every one of you for your support and your continued support. Because thanks to you, Nightcap has become what it's become. And only because of you, we will continue to grow. So thank you very, very much. Make sure you check out Shaved by La Portier. If you can't find it in the city or state near you, order it online. We'll ship it directly to your door. The best tasting premium BSOP cognac on the market. Try it. I promise you, you will not be disappointed. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Make sure you check out my my media company, Shay Shay Media on all of its platforms and my clothing company, 84. With 84 being spelled out. That link is pinned in the chat. We've been nominated guys for two O signal awards under the genre best Sports Podcast and under the video Best Video Podcast Co host team. We're currently leading in the lead by 1% in both categories. Hey look, voting ends Thursday. We need to run away with this. Go and do what y' all do. Y' all know how y' all supposed to do that thing Nightcap. So go ahead and we're also nominated for two awards for Club Shay Shay. Under the genre Athletes Shaping Culture. And under the video Best Video Podcast. Better than that. Thought y' all was gonna stay undefeated. Y' all know we don't what the Patriots Ocho. Very, very, very interesting game. Very good game, man. Good game, man. That was a barn burner. The Patriots go to Buffalo and they win. Drake May 22 of 30 273. He didn't have a touchdown. He didn't have an interception. A clean game. He was sacked four times. But man, Stefan Diggs gets his revenge. He played out of his mind. 10 catches for a buck 46. Josh Allen 22, 31, 253. Two touchdowns, one interception. Dalton Kincaid led them with six catches for a buck eight. But I thought the Patriots played unbelievable and they won. And they deserve to win this game. They There are no more unbeaten. This was the last of the unbeatens and the thanks to the New England Patriots. They go into Buffalo and come away with a hard fought road division win. Oo. We'll see how this thing shapes up as we move forward down the line. But, hey, New England has to be proud of what they were able to do on the road. What did you like about what you saw from the Patriots?
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Listen, what I like from the Patriots was Drake May, everything. Can you hear me? On. Oh, you got. You got. Hey. Oh, you got to charge some things up, baby. Let me know when you can hear me. There we go.
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Shannon Sharpe
Hello?
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah, I can hear you now. Can you hear me?
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Shannon Sharpe
Okay. Nothing.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
We got time. Chat. Can you hear me? Chat if I'm gonna dream. Chat. Can you hear me?
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. You good? That was on my end, Ocho.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Okay, okay, okay. You good? You good? You good? You good? Let me know. You ready?
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Shannon Sharpe
I'm good. Go ahead.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Oh, look. So what I like from the Patriots was a quarterback play. Yep, quarterback play. Because if you. If you look around the league. Right. I'm gonna get back to the page. If you look around the league, all the teams that have a chance in winning have a quarterback. They have consistent play at the position. There's a reason, if you watch the game, all the games today, including tonight's game, to have a chance to win and compete, you need a quarterback. That's it. Drake May, phenomenal game. It seemed like the offense basically was. Was filtered in this game through Stephon Diggs, showing that he's still capable of playing. He's still capable of making plays, and he showed out tonight. Drake May had a clean. Had a very clean game. Buffalo, obviously, some unfortunate turnovers. The Patriots had turnovers as well. What. What's. What's Stevens's first name?
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Shannon Sharpe
Raman Dre.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He had some costly turnovers, but it didn't affect him when it comes. Didn't affect him when it come to, you know, winning the game. It. It could have been costly. Outside of that, the Patriots played a really, really good game, especially on defense as well.
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Shannon Sharpe
They did a great job of containing Josh and containing those receivers with wherever they got, wherever they caught the ball at. They made sure they didn't do a great get run after the catch. I think Shakur got away, like, one time. But you're right, Ocho, when you have a quarterback, when you have a calming. I mean, you look at the way Drake May played in a hostile environment against a division rival. He was 22 of 30 273. Although he didn't throw a touchdown, he didn't turn the ball over. He didn't put the ball in harm's way. The last thing that you can do is turn the Ball over. Now it negated. I mean, you mentioned Randre Stevenson. He turned the ball over. But when you get three turnovers, when you force three now, you greatly increase your chances of winning because you offset you. Now you're plus two. Could have been plus three, but you're plus two in the turnover battle. Buffalo did not. You know, I, I wasn't surprised that James Cook couldn't get going because the, the, the Patriots are really good against the run. Defensive minded head coach, he was a great, he was a. Look I played against Brable.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
And he was solid. Oo if he's supposed to be in the flat, he had his ass in the flat. If he was supposed to be in the hook, he was going to be in the hook. If his job was to set the edge, you weren't gonna hook him. So. And he coaches, he ask his players to be smart. He asked his players to be disciplined. And you can see it coming through. They played really well. The Patriots gonna be. Look, I thought the Patriots would be good if they got a head coach.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yes, sir.
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Shannon Sharpe
That quarterback, he has it great potential but brave. But brable, man. And they got a guy, a number one receiver in Stefon Diggs that made every play that needed to be made tonight. They had him for a sack. He was just trying to throw the ball away. Somehow he gets it to Diggs and Diggs picks up 14 yards and that was the start. Sometimes Ocho, in a situation, two minute drill like that.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yes, sir.
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Shannon Sharpe
That's the start you need. You need that one positive play to start the drive to kick it off. You know what, man? It might, it's we gonna win this game, man. That ain't supposed to happen like that.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Not at all.
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Shannon Sharpe
And they, and they got it going from there. But you had to be impressed with what you saw from the Patriots. Now, hell, I'm thinking about how the hell y' all lose two games when y' all play like this.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah, Mo, most definitely. And the funny thing about it is I like the jump, the jump that Drake May has made from year one to year two. And having games like this is only going to continue to build his confidence. And when you have games like this, you have an officer coordinator like Josh Daniels and you're able to make some of the throws you, you made tonight to have a clean game like this, he can add more to your plate. He can add more to your plate and you can do more offensively. So the Patriots are going to be hell to deal with for the foreseeable future as Long as Drake may continue to stay upright and stay healthy. And you have players, like.
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Shannon Sharpe
As long. As long as they don't turn the ball over.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Oh, yeah, they'll be all right. They're gonna be all right.
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Shannon Sharpe
At the end of the day, it's still about turnovers.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yes, most definitely. Most definitely.
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Shannon Sharpe
We'll just leave it through the computer and just purchase some new ones. I don't know what's going on with those. Ocho, you got me?
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah, I got you, baby. I'm here.
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Shannon Sharpe
I'm here. Yeah. My AirPods. My AirPods shot. So I'm. I'm coming through the computer right now.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I'm coming through the computer, too. You good? You good?
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Shannon Sharpe
Now you look Buffalo. I don't. I don't look. Yeah, you turned the ball over and.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
They had three right.
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Shannon Sharpe
Three. Josh fumble. He threw a pick. Jones made a great jump on the ball. But when you.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Bro.
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Shannon Sharpe
When you. And what Josh had done, say the last 15, 16 games, he's done a great job of taking care of football.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
You've been clean, huh?
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Shannon Sharpe
And that's the way. That's the way. Because these teams, it's hard for you to turn the ball over and win in today's game. Yes.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yes.
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Shannon Sharpe
Because for the most part, you're going up against a team that got a quarterback that. I'm not saying Drake May. Obviously, Drake May is not on the level of Josh Allen.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Right.
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Shannon Sharpe
But he can play well enough. If you give them. Let them be +2 and you can't put him in harm's way, you're gonna catch hell beating him.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
You know what the good thing is when you have a quarterback like Josh Allen, he's one of the few quarterbacks that can have a three turnover game and still overcome it.
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Shannon Sharpe
Overcome it?
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yes, you can still overcome it because of how well that team is running. Some of the plays that he can make not only with his arm, but, hell, he can make it with his legs, too.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes. They did a great job of neutralizing his legs tonight, Ocho. He did have a long of 19, but nine for 53. It really didn't hurt him. They did a great job of containing him. He didn't beat him. They didn't give up the big. The big chunky runs to James Cook. But I thought the Patriots, they. They deserved to win this game. They did a great job getting the ball for forcing Buffalo to settle for the field goal and not getting in the end zone and needing a touchdown in order to win the ball game. So give their defense credit because when they needed to bow their back and they did, they held them to what made him kick. What, three. Two field goals. Yeah. Two field goals that could have easily, you know, turned in the touchdown. Because that's what the. The Bills normally do when they get down there. Because Josh is so dynamic with his legs and his arm. They put you. They put you under the gun. But the Patriots today was able to neutralize that. It's like, nah, bro, nah. We're not. We not. We're not going for that today. And, you know, Buffalo Bills get a very tough victory on the road against a division opponent by the score of 20, 23, 20, they basically walk it off. He was 10 seconds left. And so unless something unforeseen were to happen, they weren't going to win this game. So you know what? Patriots, congratulations. They got people's attention, Ocho.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah, absolutely. And you know what else I like about Drake? May too up? What's the one thing, the one thing a defense tried to do to rattle a young quarterback, especially only in his second year? You bring pressure. You bring pressure. And every time they bought pressure, he found a way to beat it. Every time. Even though he was getting flushed out the pocket because there was always a man. There was always a man that was free, that was coming. He still found a way to make a plate. And if there wasn't anything there, he didn't put the ball in harm's way.
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah, they. But. But Buffalo goes to 5, 4 and 1. The Patriots move up to 3 and 2. See how this thing shapes out. I still believe Buffalo is the class of that division, of course, but it probably is not going to be as easily as we previously thought.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
No.
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh, didn't I tell you?
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
What?
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Shannon Sharpe
Bronco country.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Hey, hey, listen, listen. Do me a favor. This is now what you're going to have to do. This is the one game I wasn't able to see. This is the one game I wasn't able to watch. Because while they were playing, obviously, I was giving my pep talk to my team in the locker room, so I wasn't able to.
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Shannon Sharpe
We just want to talk to him anymore.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Not. Man, this is the one game I couldn't see. But you got to give me in context what happened, how the game went.
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Shannon Sharpe
Why they Broncos defense dominated, okay? They sacked Jalen Hurt six times.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Six.
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Shannon Sharpe
Six times. How many passes they batted down?
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Slow down. You talking about. They sacked Jayla Hurst six times.
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Shannon Sharpe
Six times. Bonito got him two and a half times.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Hold on. With that offensive line.
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Shannon Sharpe
Six times. We got the best. That front four. That front four we got.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Getting home. Got home.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Okay. Okay.
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Shannon Sharpe
Saquon. Saquon had six carries for 30 yards. They had 11 rushes for 45 yards. So what they did is that they listened to you all, man, throw the ball, throw the ball, throw the ball. That's not what they do, right? They throw when they want to, not when they have to. And even though they. The Broncos let them get out there, they had a 173 lead. Broncos say, nah, we're gonna shut y' all down. We gonna give y' all how many yards they have the second half if you take that last drive out. Because at one point, I think they had like 40 yards in the second half.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. Wait, let me catch up. Now you're talking too fast.
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Shannon Sharpe
Go. Yeah, go ahead.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
They had a 173 lead. The Eagles had a 17 3.
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Shannon Sharpe
17 3. Let me tell you how confident the Broncos were. They scored and went for two.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Did they get it?
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Shannon Sharpe
Got it. 18, 17. Then they kicked the field goal.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Wait, so at what point if they were 173 did they get?
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Shannon Sharpe
It was 17 3. They scored a touchdown, made it 17 10. Scored another touchdown, went for two to make it 18, 17.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Okay.
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Shannon Sharpe
Stopped them, made him punt, go three and out. Got the ball back, drove down the field, kicked the field goal.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
So they get. They went up 17:3. Right. The way they got up 17:3. Was it on the ground or through the air, or was it a combination of both?
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Shannon Sharpe
They read. They ran like a double move just on Saquon, motioned out the backfield, kind of made like a double move on the linebacker where he ran out of the. Swung out the backfield and made like a double move.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Beat the line, back and forth. 47 yard touchdown.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Okay.
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Shannon Sharpe
Dallas guarded, caught one. You know, they run that zone read. And then the tight end, like he's gonna block, but he go slides to the flag a couple times. Okay, but it wasn't really nothing. I mean, no big plays, man. I. I was watching A.J. brown.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yes, sir.
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Shannon Sharpe
Man, A.J. ran a slant, a under, and a sluggle. That's the only thing I saw him run today.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
He didn't run the curl. He run. He run the curl, too.
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Shannon Sharpe
A sled, a under and a slugo.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
That's it.
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Shannon Sharpe
That's it. And he. We had. Look, they taking advantage of Riley Moss. Riley Moss? What? I mean, most of the yards came on Riley Moss, right? He gave up a deep play to devonte and. And whoever else. But, hey, but, you know, number two.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
He Ain't nobody getting nothing on him.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, you got something on him. They ran AJ on the under. Yeah, he kind of picked because, you know, he started out there and then Smitty run the rubs. And so he had to fight through that. But what, Nothing happened. I was. I was surprised how many times they sacked him.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Right.
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Shannon Sharpe
The Broncos sacked Jalen Hurst six times and batted down nine of his 38 passes. Benito led the way with two and a half sacks. He had six sacks in the past three games. He leads the league, if I'm not mistaken, with seven. The Eagles managed just 42 yards in the fourth quarter. That's including that drive, right? That's including that drive at the end of the game.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
40. 42 yards in total.
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Shannon Sharpe
42.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
What do. What do you think? They should have done better. Should they have. They.
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Shannon Sharpe
They should have. Shouldn't have played the Broncos. They should have put the Broncos on the schedule. That's what they should have done. Yeah, let's start with that.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Hold on. I'm trying. I'm trying to understand. What is it that the Eagles didn't do that they didn't do?
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Shannon Sharpe
Did you watch the Broncos Monday night, what they did to your team? Yeah, they did worse. They did worse to the Eagles as far as bum rushing them.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Right. But you have to understand, my team is handicapped. So there's a reason why your Broncos beat us. So let's.
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Shannon Sharpe
Well, what was the Eagles excuse? Cause we did it to them too.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Okay, let's not get beside ourselves now. There's nothing.
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Shannon Sharpe
Cortland Sutton was mall senior Guy Quinon.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Give me that. But hold on. He mosting.
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Shannon Sharpe
You show any kind of way.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I gotta see. I gotta see the film do.
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Shannon Sharpe
You can watch it.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I gotta see the All22 to get it.
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Shannon Sharpe
Sutton, he follows Sutton around. Sutton had 8 for 99 the whole game. Yep.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Okay, but listen, what's gonna happen is when you have games like this Keon mission right now on the way he playing, the way he's played the first three, four weeks. Whatever It.
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Shannon Sharpe
I don't.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I forgot we had week four. Right.
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Shannon Sharpe
Week five.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Okay. Week five. His first four weeks. That young bull. Young bull is. Is. Is in the conversation for top five this early. This early in his career. He's very good. He's very technical.
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Shannon Sharpe
He phenomenal.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Hey, listen, I. I hate to do comparisons, but I'm gonna compare Keon Mitchell to somebody on. On the field. He's just like goddamn Denzel Ward damn near from a technical standpoint. In order in a position to make a play. So if Cortland Sutton did have 8 for 8 for 99 or whatever it may have been, maybe because Jumbo would be his strength, and I would. Yeah, that wouldn't be Keon's mental strength, because that advantage goes to Cortland Sutton, who is the taller, bigger individual. But listen, he could lose a game. He could lose the game.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But. But see, now. Now AJ can get their attention.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
You see, when we. When we have to throw and they know we have to throw, and. Yeah, it's a different ball game. You see every. Oh, no, bro. Saquon. People ain't gonna let Saquon go crazy like he went last year. You know, Dickerson is in and out of the lineup with. You know, he got hurt, had the surge. He got nicked again. He's out. You're right guard, mai Beckton, he left with the charges. Lane Johnson been dealing with stuff all year long, so he hasn't kind of been the Lane Johnson that we're used to seeing. That's not the. That's not the same Eagles lineup.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Right.
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Shannon Sharpe
And so the. What started at the beginning of the season. They taking the lumps and bruises. They're taking some lumps right now.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Right.
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Shannon Sharpe
They sacked both twice. But I thought he. I thought overall, he played well. He missed the throw here, there, and look, he's only in his second year, but to go on the road and do that in. In a hostile environment to the team that won the super bowl last year, the Broncos had to be. They have to feel really good about what they were able to do today. They, like, if I'm Sean Payton, I'm saying, see, this is what we're capable of doing, right? We. We don't have to take a backseat to anybody when we have a great week of practice, when we pay attention to details, when we take care of what we supposed to take care of. Clean game, no turnovers. We can go. We can go on the road, or we can be anybody anywhere at any time.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah, Yeah, I. I like it. I like it. I like it.
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Shannon Sharpe
I.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Listen, I. What I wouldn't do is I would. I wouldn't get too high up on my bridges, you know, don't count your chicken before you Don't. Don't count your egg before. Don't count your chicken before the egg. How you say it. How you say it out of saying go.
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Shannon Sharpe
Don't count the chicken before they hatch.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah. Don't. Yeah. Yeah. Don't do that.
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Shannon Sharpe
Y'. All. Y' all want to Y' all wanna hatch.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Listen, y'. All.
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Shannon Sharpe
Y'.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
All. Y' all be the super bowl champs. But when it comes time, when we talk about after Thanksgiving, when real football season starts, we talk about playoff football, are y' all still gonna be in the chase?
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Shannon Sharpe
Are y'? All. I know who won't be. Y' all won't be. Listen, first of all.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Who is y'?
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Shannon Sharpe
All? We talk about the Bingos.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
We talk about the Broncos.
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Shannon Sharpe
We see where we are. You see where we are?
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Y'?
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Shannon Sharpe
All.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
2 and 3.
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Shannon Sharpe
2 and 3. Who told you that?
- [22:35]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Don't you? But y'.
- [22:35]
Shannon Sharpe
All. 3 and 2 better than y'. All. Whatever. Whatever. Y' all are. We not.
- [22:41]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Okay, okay, okay.
- [22:42]
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know what we are. I don't know what we are off the top of my head.
- [22:46]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Right?
- [22:46]
Shannon Sharpe
But we are what y' all are.
- [22:48]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
So let me tell you something. Are you excited? You excited? Where y' all at right now? You. You happy about today's win?
- [22:52]
Shannon Sharpe
Everything I told you. I said. Don't you. Y' all gonna win your first two game and y' all losing the next three. Chat. Did I tell him that?
- [23:01]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Hold on. Hold on. This is what you're not gonna do this. This is what we're not gonna do. See, in the chat should have a better understanding for me. For me. I have to. My faith is always gonna lie with my bangles. You hear me? If I cut myself right now, I'm gonna bleed orange and black.
- [23:16]
Shannon Sharpe
See?
- [23:16]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
That's what's gonna happen. So I understand. I understand and you understand as well. Our chances of continuous eating and winning games.
- [23:27]
Shannon Sharpe
Playing.
- [23:28]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
He's out. He's out now. I know he's out. But I still have to keep my faith and my love and my allegiance to my team. Unlike most people, when the quarterback goes down, they like to jump ship.
- [23:42]
Shannon Sharpe
What a show right there. When they. When they. When they gonna win another game? When they.
- [23:51]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Wait a minute.
- [23:52]
Shannon Sharpe
When they. Wendy Gonna win another game.
- [23:56]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
If there was any more time on the clock. Whenever we get to that game, we'll talk about that. When we get to that game, we'll talk about that.
- [24:01]
Shannon Sharpe
Boy, y' all could have played another. Y' all could have played another four quarters. They should. You better be glad they took a knee.
- [24:06]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Hey, be careful, because if we played another four quarters, we might have come back and won that game.
- [24:11]
Shannon Sharpe
They could have played till tomorrow and y' all still wouldn't win in that game.
- [24:16]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
You don't do that. You saw. Yeah, you saw. You saw. Number six in number one and they. They started. They started getting that chemistry. They started. They started to get going. Huh? You saw that, right?
- [24:25]
Shannon Sharpe
And we are not high school class.
- [24:27]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Hold on. Are we. Are we on? Are we on the game now? Are we on? On, on?
- [24:30]
Shannon Sharpe
No, we ain't on the. Man, ain't nobody talking about no Bengals right now. We got other good games to talk about before we talk about them bums.
- [24:36]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Let me know. I'm. I'm about to get.
- [24:38]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, I'll let you know right now. You don't know, so I ain't let you know, so you don't know.
- [24:43]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Okay.
- [24:43]
Shannon Sharpe
Let me put these good guys helmet back. How y' all doing, Chat?
- [24:50]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah. Hey, hey. Hey. Hey, you. Hey, you show. Hey, you show is happy about that. Goddamn. That goddamn.
- [24:56]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, whoa, whoa.
- [24:57]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I mean, what happened? Don't you got another that you always. That you always praise? You always hooping and Holling about?
- [25:04]
Shannon Sharpe
Whoa, whoa, Ocho, this is so unnecessary. Oh, my gosh. Why? Listen, I'm just saying. Calm down.
- [25:12]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
And you mighty happy about them Bronco, but we still got team that you claim.
- [25:16]
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know what's going on, Chat. I really don't.
- [25:18]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Oh, oh, don't worry about it. We'll get to it. What's the next game we talking about?
- [25:21]
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, it's. It's not that serious, guy. It's not that serious.
- [25:24]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
It's serious. It's serious. Pull out your Ravens helmet now.
- [25:29]
Shannon Sharpe
We don't jump out. We discussing the Bronco. We talking about Bronco country.
- [25:34]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
We talk. Hey, that game is over. Let's talk about Sabian. God damn.
- [25:40]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, Not AJ Brown, but devonte Smith had plenty to say about Jalen Hurst lack of communication after the team's first loss. There are times we're looking at him and he may give a signal before we or after we look. And ultimately we have to be on the same page. We have to see that signal no matter what. It's just the little things within the routes. He may have seen something pre snap, and sometimes we didn't see it hurt. Said doesn't remember any of those things happening and that he like, have to talk to Smith to see what he's referencing. Ocho. First it was aj, now devonte Smith. Are you surprised that. Because here's the thing. Oh, now talk to me. This is not a situation where Devonte and A.J. smith are first year players. Jalen Hurst is a first year player. They've been together for three years. This. This what? Whatever he's referencing. And we don't know Jalen Hurts say, I don't know what he talking about, but whatever the case may be, there should not be miscommunication at this level, at this time of the year with.
- [26:49]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Those three, especially not in year three. Two. Now, this is one of the things that. That a lot of Eagles fans and I would love Eagle fans to understand. Listen, as receivers, you know, they love that they use this moniker. Oh, he's a diva. Oh, he's selfish. No, all players. All players want to be able to contribute on all. Obviously, the winning is good, and you have a formula in the way you win, in the way you do things. That is the Eagle's success. That's the success. Obviously, the players, especially your 1A and your 1B, they want to contribute and they want to be part of that. The fact that they run the ball so much when it is time to throw, you want everything to be as perfect as possible, and it just hasn't been that. So the communication in which AJ and DeVonta Smith and Jalen Hurts might be lacking because that's not the focal point of the offense. It's not the focal point of the offense. So there might be some gray areas in that area that are never really addressed because that's not the way that they do things in general. But listen, I think it's something that they will get fixed. I think it's something that they will get fixed. Stuff like this, it shouldn't be out. It shouldn't be said publicly because it should be handled internally. But the fact that their focal point is always, we're the type of team, we gonna run the ball first. We worry about everything else. If the run doesn't work and we have to abandon it, which I think that that's where the disconnect is.
- [28:17]
Shannon Sharpe
I. Me, personally. Me personally, Ocho. I think Devonte was trying to help Jayla by saying there was a miscommunication, because if there's no miscommunication, this is some bull diggity. So he was saying, you know what? Maybe we missed a. Maybe we missed a signal or something that he saw. Something that we didn't see.
- [28:37]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Right? Right.
- [28:38]
Shannon Sharpe
Maybe. But if it's just. Nah, we just look this bad, right? They look bad, Ocho. They did. There are stretches there where they look. I'm like, well, damn, did y' all practice that bad?
- [28:50]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah.
- [28:51]
Shannon Sharpe
Hold on.
- [28:51]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
You said, did they practice and they look bad? When it came.
- [28:54]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes. I mean, there. There are stretches where they look that bad that you. That I question whether or not they.
- [28:58]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Had been practicing when it comes to the passing game, you mean?
- [29:01]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes. Yes.
- [29:02]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Okay.
- [29:03]
Shannon Sharpe
But teams are not going to let them run, Ocho. You see, And I. And I said this. People think the way you win a Super bowl one year, you're going to exactly come back and win it. No, they're not letting saquon run for 150, 175, 200 like he did last year. Every game we come. Every after every game, Eagles game, Ocho, we come in here. Saquon did something spectacular. Saquon did. Man say Quan hit his head on the goal post from 80. Saquon hit it.
- [29:29]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Wait, I got a question.
- [29:30]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [29:31]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
If teams aren't allowing Saquon Barkley to run, obviously I'd be better suited to. To. To talk about this game. This is one game I wasn't able to watch. But if they're not allowing Saquon to run and the front four is not going to be able to stop him, you got to bring a safety down in the goddamn box in order to do that. It's one on one on the outside.
- [29:48]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [29:49]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Be any problem.
- [29:50]
Shannon Sharpe
But you know what, Ocho? When you really look at it, if you really look at Philly's offense, it's really simplistic. Yeah, it's really simplistic.
- [29:58]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
The game of football is simple. You don't have to overcoach it. You don't have to overcomplicate it.
- [30:03]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, but you look. But you look at. You look at how. I give you an example. You look at how the Lions, how they put their players in position to succeed.
- [30:12]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Oh, yeah.
- [30:13]
Shannon Sharpe
You look at some of the other offensive coordinators and how they put their players. Bro, you just running unders, you running slants, you running sluggos. Come on, bro.
- [30:22]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah, but listen, you think about the Lions offense, and then you look at the offense of the Eagles. The Eagles went in a very simplistic format of the lines.
- [30:31]
Shannon Sharpe
You won in a simplistic form. The likelihood you're going to have to complicate. You're going to have to get a little bit more complicated now.
- [30:38]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
A little bit more creative.
- [30:39]
Shannon Sharpe
A little bit, yes.
- [30:40]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Creative, yes. But listen, the goddamn Lions up. When it comes to their creativity offensively, it's a lot more complex, especially when you. When you watch it from the outside, they do a little bit of everything.
- [30:52]
Shannon Sharpe
They do.
- [30:53]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
And you never. You never know what's coming. You never know what's coming. That's not. That's not the makeup, and that's not the DNA of the Eagles, and it never happened.
- [31:01]
Shannon Sharpe
No they're not. But I think in order for them to get back where they want to be, Ocho, they're going to have to open up this playbook. They're going to have to open up. They're going to have to trust Jalen Hurst to throw the ball and not when they get behind. I. Listen, I don't think they want him to throw the ball 38 times. I know that for certain.
- [31:16]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
That's not them.
- [31:17]
Shannon Sharpe
That's. That's not their recipe. They're oo. 11 carries. They had 11 rush attempts. Saquan, who you paying $20 million a year, had six rush attempts.
- [31:28]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Wait, wait, wait. Hold on, hold on. So you're saying they abandoned the run too early?
- [31:33]
Shannon Sharpe
They couldn't get anything running.
- [31:35]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Okay, so you had no choice but to throw.
- [31:39]
Shannon Sharpe
But not. But see, we know that. See, when Saquon is running, you like, damn, what are they going to do now? Are they going to run it or they going to throw it? We really don't know. Well, they can't run the football with Saquon. They hadn't been able to run all year. They got really lucky in the Rams game that AJ That Jalen and AJ Got on the same page and AJ Got hot and boom. But they're gonna. They're gonna have. They're gonna have to be better. They're gonna have to be better than this. A.J. brown getting eight targets for five catches and 43 yards and two for 11. And that ain't gonna cut it.
- [32:12]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
That ain't gonna cut it because they're not. Because the running game is not successful as it was last year. Okay. Yeah.
- [32:19]
Shannon Sharpe
Yep.
- [32:19]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Damn.
- [32:21]
Shannon Sharpe
But we just put. We put, you know, put foot set up, let them know what time it was. Speaking of disappointing teams, is there any more disappointing team than your Bengals? Whoa, whoa, hold on.
- [32:33]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Why we hold up? Why are we going to the Bengal game? The Ravens stayed at 1:00 o'. Clock.
- [32:38]
Shannon Sharpe
That's okay.
- [32:39]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
The Ravens played at 1:00'. Clock.
- [32:42]
Shannon Sharpe
Y' all play. We go. We. We start from. We start and work our way back. You remember how, say how we did that?
- [32:48]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Oh, that's what we doing.
- [32:49]
Shannon Sharpe
Yep.
- [32:50]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Okay, well, go ahead. Let's talk about my.
- [32:53]
Shannon Sharpe
Whoa, whoa, whoa. I mean, you do an awful lot of talking for a team that got beat by 13.
- [32:57]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Wait, by who?
- [32:59]
Shannon Sharpe
Jared Goff was 19 of 23. That means he had four incompletions chat 258 yards, three touchdowns.
- [33:09]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Damn.
- [33:10]
Shannon Sharpe
Three. David Montgomery even threw a touchdown. So in actuality, there was 20 or 24. 264, 261 yards, 4 tubs, 0 ints.
- [33:25]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Hey, can I. Can I tell you something real quick?
- [33:26]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, that man went home. He went home?
- [33:29]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah, he went home. Hey, listen, he came home and showed out. He came home and showed out. But let's understand something for one, before I even start, me, I got a chance to see Kirby. I got to see jmo, I got to see Amar Ross, St. Brown, got to see Terryon Arnold before the game, you know, I exchanged some pledge with them boys, you know, and hoping and hoping we would have had a better showing than what we did. That's neither here nor there.
- [33:57]
Shannon Sharpe
No, you had the showing that you had.
- [33:59]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Listen, Jake Brown and Hump, we are not a good enough team we are not a good enough team to overcome three turnovers. We're not a good enough team. We got to be able to protect the ball. We got to be able to protect the ball. And goddamn Jamar. Chase. Chase Brown, Pete Ryan, boy, they fought. They do you know what? Off, they fought that. You know what off to find ways to make play. Jake Bryant and running for his life for the majority of the game and trying to make something out of nothing. He did his best. Chase did his best. I would love for us to get everyone else involved. I would love for us to get everyone else involved. We have to do a better line, a better job up front. We got to do a better job up front. Jake Brown and running around for his life is one of the reasons why Joe Burrows hurt. I'm not saying no names. I'm not calling out names for those who are able to watch the game. You understand that? You understand that we did the best we could as a team. Defensively, I thought we played well. I thought we played well. Basically.
- [34:55]
Shannon Sharpe
You gave up 37.
- [34:56]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah, listen, listen. We gave up 37 to a team that's probably ranked maybe one number one.
- [35:03]
Shannon Sharpe
They took a knee on the 10 yard line.
- [35:05]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I know you don't want. Listen, you don't want to be disrespectful to us.
- [35:08]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I want to be disrespectful.
- [35:10]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah, listen, they won the game. It's a good team.
- [35:13]
Shannon Sharpe
But again, I want to be openly and blatantly disrespectful.
- [35:17]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Okay, okay, Listen, it was a great win for the Lions. It was a great win for the Lions. I had a great time meeting many Lions fans, you know, these past three days. I salute y'. All. I love you as nothing but mutual respect with the trash talk that we were doing. But as you know, My faithful. My faithfulness and my allegiance will always lie here. It will always lie with this. And I. I got to talk. I got to talk. And we lost today. And. And I bow my head with grace and. And y' all won the game. And it's nothing but love. It's nothing but love.
- [35:51]
Shannon Sharpe
But it ain't no love. It's a bitter hatred. No, it ain't no terrible.
- [35:55]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
No, no, no, no, no.
- [35:56]
Shannon Sharpe
You did all that talking. Now look at you.
- [35:58]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah, yeah. It's okay. Listen, I can sit here and say we lost.
- [36:02]
Shannon Sharpe
I bet Chase was a DB in high school, too, because he could tackle. He had three tackles in the first half.
- [36:07]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Look, at one point, Chase was leading in tackles.
- [36:10]
Shannon Sharpe
That's what I know. That's why I know he played, too.
- [36:12]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
He playing offense. That's okay. I have a question for you and Chad. I have a question for y', all, too. Do you think I love. I love Zach Taylor. I love Zach Taylor. And I hate that people are saying, oh, the coach need to be fired, and all this. Listen, it don't matter who you bring in there. God damn. You could have Jesus coaching, but when Jesus called them plays, it's our job to execute them. It's 11 people out there on the field for one ain't running no offense. You ain't running no goddamn offense if you ain't got nobody blocking for whoever at the quarterback position. We can start there. That ain't got shit to do with Zach Taylor. We can start there. But do you think. Do you think we need to make a move and go get another quarterback? I just want to know, because we only two.
- [36:56]
Shannon Sharpe
And where you going to get him from? Amazon? Cause you talking. You talking like they. They got one that you can order from Amazon and they give it to you, you get them next day.
- [37:09]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
But listen, you know the game. You know the game. I know the game. When you.
- [37:12]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [37:13]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Like this. Do you wanna salvage the season in some. In some. In some shape?
- [37:19]
Shannon Sharpe
No, you're not gonna salvage nothing on your. Y' all gonna be done by things. Y' all be done. Y' all will be done by Halloween. Joe is not coming back this year.
- [37:29]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I'm not talking about Joe coming back. I'm saying getting someone in there at the quarterback position that can facilitate the ball and protect it at the same time.
- [37:39]
Shannon Sharpe
No, that's why they stick it with me. I don't know who your backup with the. Jake Browning, but I don't believe you bringing somebody off the street. Ocho. Over the last three games, you guys have been outscored 113. 37. The 76 point differential narrowly missed the record 80. Worst three game stretch in franchise history. Bengals have three other quarterbacks on the roster. Brett Rippen, who played for the Broncos. Mike White, who played for the, he played for the jets and the Dolphins and Sean Clifford are on the practice squad. Jake Browning threw three interceptions and he had three touchdowns in garbage time. They don't mean nothing. Browning was booed after several drives in the first half. At one point he was booed and he led the offense. As he led the offense on the field. Browning had thrown, has thrown eight interceptions in four games.
- [38:33]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
So you heard what you just said. He's thrown eight interceptions in four games. And you still think there's not a quality backup that's on another team. I'm not, I don't want to say no names that can come in and.
- [38:46]
Shannon Sharpe
No, because he knows your offense the best. Your offensive line, they still, they haven't addressed, I mean, they haven't addressed that. And your defense, now I, I granted that you, you know, you turned the ball over four three times a day.
- [39:05]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Three.
- [39:06]
Shannon Sharpe
But if you go back and look at over the last. But I mean, the Broncos beat the brakes off y'. All. The team before that beat the brakes off y'. All. Y' all defense isn't any good. It's not bad. I mean, I, I wish I could give it to and say make it better, but I can't. Y' all defense aren't, your defense isn't very good. And when your defense isn't good and you, because here's the thing, your defense is the worst part of your, your team. Your offense is bad and turning the ball over. So the worst part of your team is playing the most, the last thing that you want, Ocho, you want the best part of your team to play the most. You want your offense to be on the field. Now your offense is turning the ball over, putting the worst part on the field.
- [39:50]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I don't, you know what, you know what? Can I tell you something?
- [39:52]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [39:53]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I don't like the way you worded that. I don't, I'm just saying I don't like the way you worded that. I think, I think I, I, I don't want to say we going to be all right, but y' all not. Let, let me finish. Let me finish.
- [40:06]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay?
- [40:06]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Let me have a little faith. Let me, let me have a little faith, okay? We got to have better quarterback play. The fact that, you know, Joe is out for us to even Have a chance to be able to compete every Sunday, no matter who the hell we playing. We can't turn the ball over.
- [40:24]
Shannon Sharpe
Y' all can't trade for Andy Dalton, huh?
- [40:29]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Where Andy at? Where Andy at?
- [40:31]
Shannon Sharpe
Carolina?
- [40:35]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
No, we need a gunslinger. We need a gunslinger. Somebody that's. That. That's gonna. That's gonna let that thing rip. You hear me? Someone that. That is experienced, that has veteran presence.
- [40:47]
Shannon Sharpe
Well, trade for James then.
- [40:49]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
No. Okay, now we talking.
- [40:51]
Shannon Sharpe
You say you want somebody to let it rip. James gonna throw now.
- [40:54]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Now we talk.
- [40:55]
Shannon Sharpe
Now, here's the thing, Ocho.
- [40:56]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Talk to me.
- [40:57]
Shannon Sharpe
You're gonna have three touchdown passes.
- [40:59]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah.
- [40:59]
Shannon Sharpe
He gonna have three interceptions, too. Now he go. He gonna throw for three. 350. 400.
- [41:05]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
400. He g. He gonna throw for.
- [41:07]
Shannon Sharpe
Just so you know.
- [41:09]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I. I'm just saying. Listen, I. I love.
- [41:11]
Shannon Sharpe
I love you. Remember that game last year against the Broncos? 497. But he had three picks in a football.
- [41:17]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah. So I'm. I'm saying, would you. Would you rather us. Us having Jamus or having someone at the quarter position that can. That can give us 497 or 500 yards passing and at least have us.
- [41:30]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm sure chasing Higgins would like that.
- [41:33]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Huh?
- [41:34]
Shannon Sharpe
I said I'm sure chasing Higgins would like that. Somebody's gonna throw the ball. Yeah, for sure.
- [41:38]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
So if we're gonna have a chance. If you say our defense is bad, if we're gonna have a chance, we gotta throw the kitchen sink. Oh, well, we can salvage in this season. We're just two and three now. We just took three. You never know. You know, you never know what happened. If I'm not mistaken, we. We. We second in division.
- [41:55]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [41:55]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah, we second in division. Now we have time.
- [41:58]
Shannon Sharpe
But I don't think. But given the circumstances in this division, I don't think there's only one team going out of division. Now, it might be a situation where you get three teams out of the AFC West. The Broncos, the Chargers, and the. The Chiefs.
- [42:13]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
So would you. Are you just. Are you.
- [42:15]
Shannon Sharpe
But think about it, Ocho. You got. You got to look at. You got to look at the AFC South. Jacksonville, one game. Indy lost one game. You saw the Texans win today?
- [42:25]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah. Wait, who they. Who the Texans beat today, man?
- [42:28]
Shannon Sharpe
Texas beat. There you go. You try to be slick. You try to sleep that way, didn't you? Who.
- [42:34]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Who the Texas be today, huh?
- [42:37]
Shannon Sharpe
You know who they beat today? I got Montgomery scored a touchdown in the same game for the 14th time.
- [42:43]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Right.
- [42:43]
Shannon Sharpe
Eyeing an NFL record.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Hey, can I tell you something, huh? You notice. Can I tell you something? You noticed the first time the Lions beat the Bengals since 1992.
- [42:55]
Shannon Sharpe
It won't be the last time because I ain't never.
- [42:58]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I ain't never lost to him.
- [43:00]
Shannon Sharpe
Y' all probably ain't never played the Lions.
- [43:02]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
We played the Lions twice. I had Dre. Blood was on me. Dre. Dre Bly was on me. That was my boy. And my. And my boy. We played him here in Cincinnati, boy. Remember Louis Delmas?
- [43:15]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah. Hey, hey. That boy. That boy know he can hit, boy. He know he can hit. But we ain't never lost to them. But again, salute to all the Lions fans. I know it's a lot of y' all in the chat that are watching tonight. I salute you. Y' all won the game. If I met you, it's all love. It's all love. And I'm gonna get down to Detroit. I promise him. I'll come down to Detroit and sit in the stands at Ford Field and watch the game. Damn.
- [43:44]
Shannon Sharpe
Cowboys go to the Meadowlands.
- [43:47]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah.
- [43:48]
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know if they call it the metal lands anymore. MetLife Stadium. That's what they call it. Yeah. And they win. They Mollywop the Jets 37, 22. The 2, 2 and 1. Not Cowboys. Jets are. Oh and 5. Dak Prescott was sensational. 18 of 29, 237, 4 touchdowns, no interceptions. Javante Williams, 16 carries, a buck 35. He was running the football. The Cowboys were missing four starters on the offensive line. And by the time the first half ended, the Cowboys had a 100 yard rusher in Javante Williams and a 100 yard receiver in Ryan Florido. And Dak Prescott had two touchdown passes to his tight end, Jake Ferguson. Justin Fields was 32 or 46, 283, two touchdowns. His offensive line isn't very good. Their defense isn't very good. I thought their defense would be better. Yeah, than what is shown thus far. They're not. And Brian Breeze hall had 14 carries for a buck 13. Ocho.
- [44:44]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Hey.
- [44:45]
Shannon Sharpe
He was toting that game for 144 yards.
- [44:48]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
He was totally.
- [44:48]
Shannon Sharpe
And he got blown out.
- [44:49]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah, but. But listen. That goddamn Javonte Williams. Javante Williams, with him running like that, it opens up everything else for Dakota.
- [44:59]
Shannon Sharpe
He looks like the Carolina Javante Williams. You remember when he came out Ohio, he ran the football.
- [45:04]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah.
- [45:04]
Shannon Sharpe
He was coming back off a knee surgery, so it needed. He needed to get one year removed after that knee surgery. Now he looks like the guy.
- [45:12]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Hey, he was Toting that thing and toting it. He was, he toting it. Listen, you come up there, you come up there to the party, he gonna dish it. He gonna dish it.
- [45:24]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah.
- [45:25]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Hey, that goddamn deck look good, boy.
- [45:27]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, he authored today.
- [45:28]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
He was dealing that goddamn deck look good. Picking that Ferguson out there getting jiggy.
- [45:34]
Shannon Sharpe
I like, I like Ferguson. I've always liked Fergus. Imagine, rookie. Ocho, you know what annoys me with dbs?
- [45:41]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
What?
- [45:42]
Shannon Sharpe
When you get up there and press coverage and you open the door.
- [45:45]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [45:46]
Shannon Sharpe
If you gonna get impressed coverage, put your hands on the guy. If you not back your ass off.
- [45:52]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Wait, was it Bale Technique.
- [45:54]
Shannon Sharpe
It was sauce. No, it wasn't Bale. No, he would just open the door and Pick ran right by it.
- [46:04]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
He thought Pick was gonna run something short.
- [46:05]
Shannon Sharpe
I bet if you open the door, my granny used to say all the time, boy, open the door. Flies come in the house every time. Okay, you open, you up in press coverage. Yeah, but you gotta realize if you open the gate, the guy gotta run and start now you have to turn and run.
- [46:22]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah, you do.
- [46:23]
Shannon Sharpe
You not catching up with these top flight receivers. Look, I, I, I don't like to be the bearer of bad news. Sauce Garden hadn't been the same since his rookie year. If we being all the way honest. If we being, if we being 1000% honest, right? Been the same since they started calling. All that clutching and holding and they let him get away with his rookie season. Chad. Y' all know it. Watch the tape. Watch it. He ain't the same. He the highest paid. Congratulations. But ain't no way I'm putting him up there with Stingley. I'm putting him up there with certain.
- [46:58]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Nah, I mean, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Listen. Now, I understand he might get the, he might get the call, he might get the holding calls. He, he might, you know, get beat sometime. But Young Bull is paid significantly because he showed on film that he's worth what he's getting.
- [47:15]
Shannon Sharpe
Been the same since the rookie year.
- [47:16]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Okay, okay, okay.
- [47:19]
Shannon Sharpe
Watch him, watch the tape. Look at him. He ain't been the same. He's not. Not. He. And, and, and he ain't even close. He ain't even close to s. We, We. They need to stop that discussion.
- [47:32]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
That, that's, that's two totally different bodies of work.
- [47:35]
Shannon Sharpe
Stingley. They by themselves, man. They buy themselves. I mean, I, I'll just be all the way 1000 with JoJo and, and chat jets fans. If you being honest. Y' all watched him over the last three, four years. He ain't been the same since his rookie year. Cause they call all that clutching and holding that he normally get that he was getting away with. They calling it now not damn.
- [48:03]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
You do understand defensive back is the hardest position to play on the field, huh?
- [48:06]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes, I do. Yes, yes.
- [48:08]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Okay. Okay, okay, okay.
- [48:10]
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho, you make $30 million a year. Yeah, yeah, I, I, it. Guess what? It was hard. When he was a rookie, he was defensive rookie of the year.
- [48:19]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah.
- [48:22]
Shannon Sharpe
We don't, we don't do that. Hey, as you, as you make, as you make more, more is expected, don't y'.
- [48:28]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
All. Absolutely.
- [48:30]
Shannon Sharpe
You don't get to still look. You don't get to stay the same. You're like, well, you know, hey, no, you spoke. You're supposed to try to elevate. I'm gonna show everybody why they gave me this money.
- [48:40]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yes.
- [48:40]
Shannon Sharpe
They paid you for that. Defensive player of the year. I mean, defensive Rookie of the year. They paid you for that All Pro. They're paying you now because they said, we believe moving forward he gonna be better than what he was to make us give him this money. So we gonna be getting him out of bargain. He's not playing well. And it's okay to say that some for somehow we've gotten away from, like, if a guy's not playing well and he's a good player, it's okay to say he not playing well. Chad. Chad. He's not. He's not. And it'd be a, it could be a receiver, it could be a running back, it could be a quarterback. I'm not taking. Because somebody's not playing the way currency. The thing is, Ocho, a lot of times when you say a player isn't playing well, their fan base or family members or even them think you're trying to discredit what they've already done, right? I cannot take away the All Pro, nor would I attempt to. I can't take away that Pro bowl, that Defensive rookie of the year. Yes, you've got that. But what that got to do with how you playing right now, that's still on your resume.
- [49:43]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
You know what I, I would love, I wish, I wish I had it front of you. See, I'm, I'm on the road, so I don't have my, my, my other computer in front of me, look at some of the numbers on how he's played this year. So I, I, I would have to do my homework first because I'm, I, I don't Watch the Jets significantly. I watch all the games as a whole. You know, watching the TV copy. It doesn't give you a fair, a fair way to judge or assess how an individual player is playing until you get to see the numbers. So I mean, you would know better than me because I haven't been able to watch the jets outside of Justin Fields and what Justin Fields and Garrett Wilson are doing. So yeah, I got to check that out. I got to check that out. But I know one thing, if you, you don't pay a player $30 million. I'm just saying, you don't pay a player $30 million if he's regressing.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
From his rookie year. So, so that, that, that's why it's hard.
- [50:35]
Shannon Sharpe
He does not look the same. And I don't think, I don't, I don't think anybody that watch, if they're being honest.
- [50:40]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Right.
- [50:41]
Shannon Sharpe
Can look at and say, you know what? Yeah, Sauce is the same guy we saw as a rookie. He's not, he is not. Jets have employed 19 full time coaches over six decades. Today. Aaron Glenn became the first to start his tenure with five straight losses. Coach that is known for his defense. The jets are on pace to allow the most points in franchise history. Glenn states that he has no plans of taking over calling from D.C. steve Wilkes. Ocho. We've seen very few black coaches get time to figure things out. Do you believe because we saw Steve Wilkes in Arizona, we saw last year coach in, in New England. Do you believe that he's going to get an opportunity to figure this thing out?
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah, absolutely.
- [51:32]
Shannon Sharpe
Absolutely.
- [51:33]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
It's his first year and obviously one of the.
- [51:36]
Shannon Sharpe
It was Steve Wilkes first year. Yeah, it was. What's the, what was the coach in New England last year?
- [51:44]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Gerard Mayo.
- [51:45]
Shannon Sharpe
Gerard Mayo, right. It was his first year.
- [51:48]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah. But obviously, you know, they want, they, they want, they want a variable.
- [51:52]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, so what, what, so what, what if another coach is out there? Usually they want a variable. Okay. What if they want somebody else and he's available?
- [52:04]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I don't know. I don't know. You know, if any, if anything, you would think the jets would have a head start and have success on the defensive side of the ball. Because that's what, that's, that's what, that was their identity. That's always been their identity. The defense was really good. Their defense is really good. I'm not sure what's going on now, but if there's one thing you, you probably thought you wouldn't have to worry about when it came to football season or this season. Starting is the jets defense.
- [52:29]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [52:30]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Just focus on offense and hope and Justin Field. Justin Fields is your answer for the foreseeable future.
- [52:36]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, the jets had us fooled, the Ocho, because we looked at. Remember when they had Zach Wilson and they said, oh, if they just. And I'm saying that's a hair. And what. That's what. That's what made him go out and get Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, I say now. But you say you're under the premise that the defense is going to be just as good, if not better, because if they have any slippage, then the quarterback's not going to be able to overcome that.
- [52:55]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Right.
- [52:56]
Shannon Sharpe
That defense hadn't been same since. You got to go back Zach Wilson, you got to go way, way back to talk about that defense. Don't nobody fear that defense now. No, they don't. Justin Fields constantly running for his life. Sack five times for 49 yards. They're a mess.
- [53:14]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah, they are. And you know another thing too, I'm not an officer coordinator, unk. But most of the time we have offensive lines. I think about. I think about the Bengals, I think about the Jets, I think about other quarterbacks that are in situations where the offensive lines aren't that good. I don't understand for the life of me, if you know, if you know the offensive line is not good, put your quarterback under center and just run quick game. Just run quick game. I don't understand why.
- [53:40]
Shannon Sharpe
What happened though. So they fell behind so quick, they couldn't. Okay, think about it. Breeze hall had 14 carries for a buck 13. But you behind. I mean, they were behind. I mean, Dallas, the score was 23. The score was 23:3 at the half. The score was 30 to 6 at the end of the fourth. At the end of the third quarter, how the hell are we gonna run the ball? Ocho, we down 23, three at the half. We down 30. We down 30 to six in the third quarter. Ain't no more running.
- [54:07]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
You ain't got no choice.
- [54:08]
Shannon Sharpe
Receivers run your ass and get open. That's the running. You do it. The running backs, I'm sorry, you blocking or you chipping your way out? That it is what it is.
- [54:17]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah. And you know, it's funny, but see, the. The Bills are built a little different. A high percentage of the time, anytime Josh Allen is in shotgun, it's a pass.
- [54:28]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [54:29]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
A high percentage of the time, anytime is down the center, it's a run.
- [54:33]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [54:34]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Every so often he'll be in shot.
- [54:35]
Shannon Sharpe
He'll try to throw you off. Yeah, it's definitely a tailgate, but I.
- [54:41]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I, I don't, I don't know. I don't know. It's still very early in the season, but now that we're in week five, everybody should. Everything should be turning. Offenses should be churning. You should be hitting your stride, you should be hitting your rhythm at this point, defenses so should be ahead of the eight ball because all you got to do is read and react. That's it.
- [55:03]
Shannon Sharpe
And sometimes oo, you know, you have these expectations of defense, but you don't really know. You hope. You think, yeah, that team. Because every year we have a team that comes up our springs up out of nowhere.
- [55:13]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah.
- [55:14]
Shannon Sharpe
Makes the playoffs. We have an offense that like, damn, I didn't know they had this in them. Or we have a defense and then we have teams that we expect take a step back, be it offensively defense or to a team as a. In totality.
- [55:25]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Right.
- [55:27]
Shannon Sharpe
I thought the jets would be better. They got to do better than this, son.
- [55:33]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Hey, but were you 05? You know how difficult it is to climb out of a hole?
- [55:38]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, you ain't. Oh. You do realize in order to be 500, you'd have to win four. Five straight.
- [55:44]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Straight?
- [55:45]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, five straight. What's the likelihood? Hell, they can't win one in a row. How the hell they gonna win five in a row? And it doesn't get any easier. And what's the schedule? Next five games they are. They got. So guess what? They go to Denver at Broncos.
- [56:09]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
You know what's gonna happen? They got.
- [56:10]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, they're home to the Broncos.
- [56:12]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
They gonna beat y'.
- [56:13]
Shannon Sharpe
All.
- [56:13]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
They gonna beat y'. All.
- [56:14]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, they got y'. All. Ocho on the schedule.
- [56:17]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Who jets they playing? They playing in Cincinnati.
- [56:20]
Shannon Sharpe
They playing in Cincinnati. Okay, they got Broncos. Panthers bring Bengals, Browns. Oh, that's tough.
- [56:35]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
That's tough. They might be old, they might be owing.
- [56:39]
Shannon Sharpe
We know one thing the Broncos can get after your damn quarterback.
- [56:43]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Absolutely.
- [56:45]
Shannon Sharpe
As Jalen hurts.
- [56:47]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Well, listen, you, you got, you get the, the one thing you do have for Jalen hurts. I'm talking about. Jalen hurts for Justin Fields is he can run, he can move.
- [56:59]
Shannon Sharpe
They don't give him a chance to move, cuz by the time he get the snap, somebody, Somebody on him.
- [57:03]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
In his face. Yeah.
- [57:04]
Shannon Sharpe
Yep.
- [57:06]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Damn. Oh, you, you, you want to do everything you can to start fast, but a whole.
- [57:15]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, it's hard. It's hard. It's hard digging out of a hole.
- [57:19]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Listen, zero and five in New York.
- [57:22]
Shannon Sharpe
Yep.
- [57:23]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Man, please.
- [57:26]
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho the Texans dismantled a beat up Ravens teams 44 to 10.
- [57:32]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't. Because when you talked about the Bengals, you didn't say beat up. You just said lost to the Bengals. Just say the Houston Texans dismantled the Ravens.
- [57:45]
Shannon Sharpe
Don't dis you. You going. Let me, you gonna let me finish the reader though.
- [57:50]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead, finish. Finish it. Don't try to. Don't try to solve.
- [57:54]
Shannon Sharpe
Now to a shocking 1 and 4 record. The Texans scored six touchdowns in four games. They scored five today. The 44 points is the most by team in a home game in the John Harbaugh 18 season era. The Ravens are on pace, 35.4 points per game to shatter the Panthers 2024 NFL record. Most points allowed, 534. John harbor said John Harbaugh said after the 34 point loss that Zach Orr will remain the defensive coordinator. I don't think that's the answer. We have to go to work is what we need to do. We need to stick together is what we need to do. We need to find ourselves. And that has to do with coaches, players working together.
- [58:40]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Absolutely. Well, listen, I don't want you to say foot or ball with that Ravens helmet. Go get that Ravens helmet for me. Go get that.
- [58:48]
Shannon Sharpe
It's in the closet.
- [58:49]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Huh?
- [58:50]
Shannon Sharpe
Is it the closet?
- [58:51]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
That's exactly where it belongs. Trapped in the closet. Y' all was abysmal today. Y' all were horrible today. Y' all were horrible. Offensively, y' all were horrible.
- [59:01]
Shannon Sharpe
They were horrible on all sides of the ball. Oh, yeah, absolutely. CJ Stroud. This was the best CJ Stroud is. Look, since his rookie year. Rookie year.
- [59:09]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I was just gonna say that.
- [59:11]
Shannon Sharpe
23 of 27, 244 yards, four touchdowns, no interceptions. He was sacked twice. He was. Had a 99.9 QBR. They ran the ball 33 times for a buck 67. Nico Collins had a touchdown. Hutchinson had two touchdowns. Noel had a touchdown. Cooper Rush, I don't know who. Look, we don't need to talk about this, but we know Cooper Rush is not the answer. If Cooper Rush is the answer, I need to know the question that you're asking.
- [59:43]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Oh.
- [59:43]
Shannon Sharpe
Anyway, he was 14 or 20, 179, three interceptions, sack once. Derek Henry had 15 rushes, 33 yards and a touchdown. Keon Mitchell had three for eight yards. Justice Hill had one for three yards. Zay Flowers had five catches for 72 yards. De Hawk two for 46.
- [60:04]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Wait a minute. How many interceptions did Cooper Rush have?
- [60:08]
Shannon Sharpe
3.
- [60:09]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
3. How many interceptions did Jake Browning have?
- [60:12]
Shannon Sharpe
3.
- [60:13]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Okay, so. So that mean. That means they score 44 on y'. All. They ain't score 44 on us.
- [60:24]
Shannon Sharpe
It took a knee on the 10 yard line.
- [60:25]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
What?
- [60:26]
Shannon Sharpe
They took a knee on the 10 yard Line. Y' all coaches didn't know. Y' all coaches didn't know you couldn't putt the ball. Y' all put the ball and we didn't land in the landing area. And so they got the ball down to the 10 yard line and could have scored again on you.
- [60:39]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
He scored 44 on your team. 44.
- [60:41]
Shannon Sharpe
Like that's not your team. That's not your team.
- [60:44]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
They scored 44 on your team.
- [60:46]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, okay. I thought you said that was your team.
- [60:48]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Listen, you, You, You.
- [60:50]
Shannon Sharpe
You.
- [60:50]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
You talking with a little too much volume in basic.44 team that just lost 44 to 10.
- [60:56]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, man, look.
- [60:59]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah.
- [61:00]
Shannon Sharpe
How you feel, Ocho? You already down Vanoy Matabe, Humphrey, and. And your safety, Kyle Hamilton.
- [61:09]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah.
- [61:10]
Shannon Sharpe
So you're down four starters there, and you're down Lamar Jackson, and your defense was already struggling. So you're down four starters on the defensive side of a defense that's already struggling.
- [61:21]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Well, wait a minute.
- [61:22]
Shannon Sharpe
It ain't gonna get no better.
- [61:23]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
It wasn't gonna get no better even if they was healthy. Because when everybody was healthy, they still wasn't doing nothing. They still wasn't about nothing. Now, the only chance you do.
- [61:32]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm glad you said that. Cause they remind you of the Bengals, right?
- [61:35]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
No.
- [61:35]
Shannon Sharpe
Because when Joe Burrow was healthy there last year, they was yelling, up 30 a game.
- [61:39]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Let me finish. Let me finish. Any chance? Y' all do have the only promising hope for Ravens fans for that organization to even compete. Boy, you need eight. Boy, you got to have Pompadour's finest out there in order to compete.
- [61:54]
Shannon Sharpe
Well, doesn't look like he'll probably be back.
- [61:58]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
How long he gonna be out?
- [62:00]
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know. They say one to two weeks, one to three weeks. It all depends on how. How. Hold on. Oh, Calvino played today. He got a sack, Ocho. Oh.
- [62:13]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Oh, you don't say. And it didn't work, huh? It didn't help, though, huh?
- [62:18]
Shannon Sharpe
Nah. Yeah, they needed more. Look, ain't no. Ain't no easy way to say this, but it's not going to get better for the Ravens, Ocho.
- [62:29]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah, yeah, I know. It's.
- [62:30]
Shannon Sharpe
They're not. They're not get. They're not going to get better. And it seems like that loss, opening night, that they had that lead, it took a lot out of them. You hate to say one game oo, but you in this situation, remember, you had it. Had them on the ropes last year in the playoff game, and you lose that one in heartbreaking fashion. You had a big lead in the game starting. What was that Sunday night? And you lose that one. And they really never got their footing back after that. Yeah, what's Baltimore give me Baltimore's next five games. Ash, it doesn't look like it's gonna get any better.
- [63:05]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Oh, it's not. It's definitely not. It's gonna get better for us before it get better for y'. All. I can tell you that. I can tell you that. And I say. I say that in a respectful manner as someone who loves the Ravens.
- [63:17]
Shannon Sharpe
Rams. They got the Rams next.
- [63:20]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
That's a loss.
- [63:21]
Shannon Sharpe
Bears.
- [63:24]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
That's a loss.
- [63:25]
Shannon Sharpe
Vikings. Dolphins. Oh, Dolphins. That's a win. They got the Dolphins. That's a win.
- [63:30]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Okay, I might.
- [63:31]
Shannon Sharpe
Vikings then brown them Browns. Oh, they gonna beat the Dolphins. Everybody beat the Dolphins.
- [63:36]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
So y'.
- [63:37]
Shannon Sharpe
All.
- [63:37]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Y' all got. Y' all gonna win.
- [63:38]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, oh, why you talking. Your Dolphins got crushed.
- [63:42]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
They did.
- [63:43]
Shannon Sharpe
Carolina beat them, man.
- [63:45]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
The score was 27, 24. You talking about crushed?
- [63:49]
Shannon Sharpe
They had a lead, huh? Y' all was leading.
- [63:53]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I know, but. Well, you say we got crushed. We a get crushed. And the Panthers been playing some good ball, but you see Bryce Young. What you talking about? It ain't like, oh, the Dolphins got crushed. No, the Panthers.
- [64:06]
Shannon Sharpe
Dolphins got beat. Carolina. Carolina put foots in them.
- [64:11]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Hold on. Carolina. The same team that just beat the goddamn Atlanta Falcons 30. Was it 38 or 30 0.
- [64:19]
Shannon Sharpe
Talk about the Falcons. I'm talking about your Dolphins. You know what, Ocho? All your. Your teams, the Bengals and the Dolphins combined.
- [64:29]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I know you're not talking because we just talked about your Ravens. Listen, the Bengals don't have. We don't have a quarterback.
- [64:36]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, the Ravens got a quarterback, huh? The Ravens got a quarterback.
- [64:41]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah, I mean. I mean, your defense bad, though. You talk about. You talking about the Bengals defense. Look at y'. All defense.
- [64:49]
Shannon Sharpe
What you mean, Ocho? But see, your thing was the Dolphins were up 17 nothing. Oh, look at it now. Now look at it now. Look at it.
- [65:04]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Hey, we was up 17 nothing.
- [65:07]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah. And then what happened?
- [65:14]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
It seemed like Brex Young did it. What he needed to do.
- [65:16]
Shannon Sharpe
No, no, look, the Texans, the way the Texans play. This is the way people expected CJ to play. His second year.
- [65:25]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Right.
- [65:26]
Shannon Sharpe
The way he played today. This is the best C.J. stroud has looked since his rookie season. They ran the ball 33 times for 167 yards. Nick Chubb, 11 for 61. I mean, look, Nick Chubb was really, you know, only thing C.J. had one. Had one run for 30 yards. He looked pretty fast to me. I guess he found the fountain of youth, though, over the last couple of days. But anyway, they look, they. This was a total team. They was a dominant. They dominated. Ain't no way around it. They dominated the ball game. C.J. was poised in the pocket. He only missed two throws. He. And then you get the ball, you run the ball for over 150 yards, and then you sack the quarterback. You only sacked the quarterback once. But I'm trying to figure 179 plus 44. They barely had over two. They barely had over 200 yards total offense. When you go on the road, you can go into a team's building and hold them, you know, 179 yards passing, 44 yards rushing. Yeah. You did something good.
- [66:28]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Hey, what I told you before the season started, huh? Before the season started, what team did I have high praise for in the watch out for.
- [66:39]
Shannon Sharpe
Carolina? Bears.
- [66:41]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Bingo. That was it.
- [66:42]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [66:43]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I told y'.
- [66:44]
Shannon Sharpe
All.
- [66:45]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I told you. Like you said, there's always a team that comes out of nowhere that surprises us, right? Told you. I told you. I told you. I told you what Carolina was gonna do now. And I know they beat my team.
- [66:57]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, they did beat the brakes off them. Hold on. But we watch all 17.
- [67:01]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Hey, listen, we missing a key ingredient. We missing a key component to our offense. A game changer. We missing.
- [67:08]
Shannon Sharpe
He ain't coming back. So get y'. All. They was getting beat with him in the lineup. Ain't that what you just told me?
- [67:15]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Hold on.
- [67:16]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. C.J. was 23 of 27. 244. Four touchdowns, zero interceptions. Davis Mills comes in two or four, 23 yards. So as a team, there was 25 of 31, 254 touchdowns. Like I said, C.J. looked very good today. He's very comfortable. You can't. If. If. I mean, coach, he can't complain. He ain't got nothing to say. He said, hey, guys, this is the way I expect us to play. This is how I expect us to look. Regardless of who we play, regardless of where we play, this is the level. Is that we should. This is the level we should hold ourselves to.
- [67:58]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah. That's the first thing I'm going To say regards to who you play because remember, everybody's heard it for the Ravens. So looking like you look today. Looking like you look today, you're supposed to. When all the starters aren't out, when all the elite players defensively are out.
- [68:16]
Shannon Sharpe
But you know what, Ocho? Against a team that's healthy, sometimes. What have we seen teams do play down to the level of competition.
- [68:23]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Competition. Yeah, they did.
- [68:25]
Shannon Sharpe
All them guys out. You mentioned Lamar being out. You missed mentioned those defensive guys being out. Be hell out of. Because see, now John harbor can't go in there and lie to him.
- [68:35]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Right?
- [68:35]
Shannon Sharpe
Guys, we were close. All we need to do is stick together. No. Hell no. I will beat you so bad, you're going to start to splinter, you're going to start to point fingers, you're going to start to look at each other. Man, if he get. If he is. He studied like he's supposed to, man, I wonder if he giving it. That's the kind of doubt. That's what I try to sow. I'm not playing down to the competition. If your guys are not in there, I'm trying to hang half a hundred on you.
- [69:00]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
And the funny thing about it is when you have, when you, when you have injuries, right, the first thing people do when you have injuries and things aren't going well, the first thing they say, well, we need to change a position coach or we need to change a defensive coordinator. When that's not the problem. That's never been the problem. I don't care who's calling the plays. It's up to those that are on the field to execute whatever it's called. That's it. Everybody has an assignment. Everybody has a job to do. When all 11 people are doing their job collectively the right way, winning their individual battles every down, down one, down two, down three, everything will work fine. But sometimes it takes having your starters in there to do it the right way, right? When they're out, they back up for a reason. They third string for a reason.