Nightcap Hour 1: Bo Nix & Broncos ESCAPE Kansas City + No PLAYOFFS for Lions + Vikings REGRET letting Sam Darnold WALK + Cowboys KNOCK OFF Commanders + Lamar Jackson ON the MOVE?!

Summary

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Club Shay Shay: Nightcap Hour 1 (Dec 26, 2025)

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In this episode, Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson break down the latest NFL action and playoff implications, focusing on the Denver Broncos' narrow victory over the Chiefs, the Detroit Lions’ stumble out of playoff contention, Minnesota’s struggles at quarterback, the Cowboys’ win over the Commanders, and mounting tensions between Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens. The discussion is spirited, candid, and full of pointed football analysis along with their trademark humor.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Denver Broncos Escape Kansas City (starts ~[07:00])

• Broncos win 20-13 over a depleted Chiefs.

  • Bo Nix: 25/38, 182 yds, 1 TD, 1 INT – “He did a great job of getting out of harm's way.” – Shannon ([07:22])
  • Broncos offense played conservative, relying on defense and avoiding risks.
  • Chiefs missing Patrick Mahomes, two starting corners, offensive line in “shambles.”
  • Shannon worries Broncos “closer to being one and done than winning a playoff game” ([09:47]).

• Ochocinco’s Take:

  • Frustrated by Broncos “playing down to their competition.”
  • Calls for Sean Payton to trust Bo Nix more: “They got to let him off that leash, especially once you get to the playoffs.” ([08:48])

• Key Quote (Chad): “At some point they're gonna have to let Bo Nix off that leash.” ([08:48])

• Game Management Critiques:

  • Shannon: “You don’t accept anything in a win you wouldn’t in a loss.” ([09:47])
  • Broncos' cautious tactics may not translate to playoff success.

• Stats Rundown ([07:22], [16:14]):

  • Broncos: 32 carries for 128 yards, conservative calls.
  • Chiefs: “Less than 150 yards of total offense.”

2. Play Calling & Leadership Trust

• Sean Payton’s Conservative Playbook:
  • Shannon criticizes Payton for moments of overthinking: “Sometimes Sean Payton...just tries something off the cuff that really doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.” ([09:47])
  • Ocho: “You can tell when the head coach trusting his quarterback by the goddamn play calling.” ([13:35])
• Importance of Hitting Form Pre-Playoffs:
  • Succeeding in the postseason is about “hitting on all cylinders,” not just scraping by ([12:25]).
  • Broncos’ formula so far: win with defense, don't lose games – but not “imposing will.”

3. Detroit Lions Eliminated, Vikings’ QB Troubles ([26:20])

• Lions’ Playoff Hopes End:

  • Lions lose 23-10 to Vikings, now out of playoff race.
  • Jared Goff: Sacked 5 times, 2 INTs, 3 fumbles – “It's hard to overcome six turnovers.” ([40:39])
  • Dan Campbell took over play-calling – team struggles coincide with his takeover.

• Ocho on Lions’ Run Game:

  • Wonders where Detroit’s rushing attack vanished: “All of a sudden...the running game has been abysmal. I'm not sure what's going on.” ([27:33])
  • Offensive line issues highlighted – Skipper (swing lineman) playing out of position.
  • Praises Panay Sewell’s versatility, laments “waste” at right tackle ([28:26]).

• Vikings’ Quarterback Carousel:

  • Backup Brossmer: 9/16, 51 yards, sacked 7 times.
  • Ocho: “Is the quarterback play that bad? ...I can get the ball to goddamn Justin Jefferson.” ([28:29])
  • Vikings regret letting Sam Darnold walk. “The more and more the season goes on, the more they should be kicking themselves about letting Sam Darnold walk out.” ([30:00])
  • Shannon skeptical of turning to rookie J.J. McCarthy: “You've got to throw from the pocket.” ([30:40])

• Justin Jefferson’s Frustration:

  • Breaks Randy Moss’s record for most receiving yards in first six seasons ([35:40]).
  • Production limited by QBs: “I can only see number eight in a Raven jersey… but this game, they're doing leaking information purposely to the media.” ([62:24] — re: Lamar, but applies to all stars mired in team issues)

4. Cowboys Knock Off Commanders – Defensive Concerns ([47:11])

• Cowboys Win 30-23 Despite Defensive Woes:

  • Dak Prescott: 19/37, 307 yds, 2 TD, sacked 6 times.
  • Offensive production not matched by defense.
  • Shannon: “Cowboys got a 4,000 yard passer, 2,000 yard receivers, a 1,000 yard rusher... because the defense... they won't tackle.” ([47:34])
  • Ocho: “They need a difference maker on that line… somebody of high quality…you're gonna be alright, Cap.” ([50:03])
  • Discussion on Trevon Diggs and Daron Bland: risk/reward defenders.

• Pro Bowl Controversy:

  • Dispute over Quinnen Williams’s Pro Bowl selection versus statistical performance.
  • Shannon: “This is the year… it’s gotta be year to year. Did you play well enough this year to earn the right to go to the Pro Bowl?” ([58:17])
  • Suggests Jordan Davis deserved it over Williams.

5. Lamar Jackson & Ravens Drama ([59:28], [61:02])

• Mounting Tensions in Baltimore:
  • Reports of friction between Lamar Jackson and front office.
  • Lamar injured (back), missed games in each of last three seasons.
  • Contract/roster questions: “They’re gonna have to make some tough decisions... this roster has gotten old. They’ve let it get old.” ([65:21])
• Ochocinco’s Inside Info:
  • “They will never write anything… unless it’s coming from inside the building. They do this on purpose… this is the game they play.” ([62:24])
• Future Outlook:
  • Possibility of Lamar in another uniform, specifically Miami (“If they don’t appreciate you, Lamar, come to Miami.”)
  • Zay Flowers, Bateman, and others – not enough offensive help for Lamar.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On coaching trust:

  • “You can tell when the head coach trusting his quarterback by the goddamn play calling.”
    — Ocho ([13:35])

• On Pro Bowl processes:

  • “The Pro Bowl can’t be a lifetime achievement… it’s gotta be year to year. Did you play well enough this year to earn the right to go?”
    — Shannon ([58:17])

• On quarterback scarcity:

  • “Quarterbacks don’t grow on trees. Not good ones.”
    — Shannon ([34:42])

• On franchise QBs and disappointment:

  • “You get a small sample size… Sam Darnold showed you last year, you don’t let him walk out the door.”
    — Ocho ([33:54])

• Humor & Chemistry:

  • Playful ribbing over Shannon’s tiny cooler and drink concoctions ([13:57]–[15:15])
  • Ocho’s nostalgic joke: “My last time in the trenches was back in 1983, out here in Liberty City.” ([54:08])

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Important Timestamps

• Broncos-Chiefs recap: [07:00]–[16:00]
• Coaches and play-calling trust: [13:30]–[16:00]
• Lions-Vikings, QB and O-line issues: [26:20]–[39:40]
• Vikings’ QB carousel & Sam Darnold regret: [30:00]–[34:41]
• Justin Jefferson record & frustration: [35:40]–[38:32]
• Cowboys-Commanders, Defensive critique: [47:11]–[50:49]
• Pro Bowl debate (Quinnen Williams): [52:28]–[58:17]
• Lamar Jackson/Ravens drama: [59:28]–[66:23]

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Summary Flow

The show is a dynamic, quick-fire NFL debate between two football greats, enhanced by behind-the-scenes knowledge, a few memorable laughs, passionate critiques, and honest acknowledgment of what makes contending NFL teams tick (or fail). Topics weave easily between on-field analysis and front office decisions, always anchored by storytelling, player empathy, and their no-filter personalities. The average fan walks away not just knowing who won or lost, but why, and what might happen next.

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Useful For: Anyone who missed the games but wants a former-player’s insight on what’s happening—not just on the stat sheet, but in locker rooms, coach’s offices, and the minds of frustrated superstars.

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[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I mean, I didn't like the fact that they played down to the competition. I would have loved for, I would have loved for Sean Payton to be a little bit more aggressive, obviously trusting Bo Knicks unto me, it almost seemed, with the way the play calling was tonight, knowing that they're down and don't have Patrick Mahomes at the helm. Let's take advantage of this situation. Let's take advantage of them being that they don't have Patrick Mahomes and let's put the pedal to the metal. Let's be aggressive. Let's allow Bo Nicks to put up those type of stat lines he put up the past two previous weeks. It didn't look like that tonight. Tonight it looked like the Broncos played down to their competition. I mean, that's what it looked like to me. I'm not sure what the problem was. At some point they're going to have to let Bo Nicks off that leash. They got to let him off, they got to let him off that leash, especially once you get to the playoffs. I know you want your defense to be able to carry you through the way, but your quarterback, your quarterback is going to have to come through for you at some point. They did win, though. I got, there's nothing I can say they did.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They won. They won. But you don't accept anything in a win. You wouldn't in a loss. And had you lost this game, you'd have been very disappointed in your performance. And I love the Broncos. I, I, I don't, I don't make any, you know, bones about that. There's nothing to be ashamed of. But for me right now, looking at this team over the last three weeks, I think they're closer to being one and done than they are winning a playoff game. It's just too because in the playoffs, a team can Grab the momentum and you'll find yourself down 14, 17 points in the blink of an eye. In the blink of an eye. And, and, and, and, and I, I, I see some things that's concerning for me and I've watched it. Look, you can't. Listen, if you, if you got Tom Brady or Patrick Mahomes, you, you can keep winning these one score games in the regular season and it'll translate into postseason because they've been there and they've done that. You're talking to a quarterback that's never been there and done that. And the game got out of hands last year against Buffalo, so he don't know what it's like to be in a, a nip and tuck ball game come post season. You think the, the, the, the, the pressure is immense in the regular season. You times that because this is finality. You lose that game, you're going home. See, you lost last week against Jacksonville. Guess what? You, you played Thursday night in the playoff. There is none of that. And so that's concerning to me because I see some things consistently and sometimes it's Sean Payton. I don't get, I don't get why all of a sudden he's a situation that moving the ball good and then he gets a bright idea, you know what, Let me, let me show my genius. And he just tries something off the cuff that really doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. The defense was the defense tonight. I thought they would get after him a little bit more than what they did. I thought they was very conservative. They didn't bring pressure. Oo. They just played a lot of base defense and just sl back. You know what?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

They knew they had nothing to worry about. Patrick Mahomes wasn't there. So you know what? It's really no need to do that. And obviously the backup quarterback, the backup quarterback, OLO Duan. Yeah, yeah. He got legs, huh? He got legs. Now you, you bring pressure if you want to and he come out that backside on, he can hurt you. So I mean, I mean, what they did, they had a great game plan. Defensive.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If you don't mind me asking, Ocho, when people attack the Raven, when people attack or Josh Allen, what do they do? They sit back there and play or.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Do they bring that goddamn pressure, boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because I want to make a decision right now.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You want to speed it up? You want to speed it up? Okay, I'm with you when you're right. But they didn't see him as a threat, huh? They didn't see him As a threat. Which is why they. Which is why they played the game. Played the game the way they did. Yeah, we good. Can sit back here. We can sit back here and just play ball. I ain't got to do nothing extra. I ain't got to do nothing exotic. I'm just call my defense. Y' all boys do what y' all do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I. I agree with you. I just think that the last thing is. I'm not so sure. That last play, the Hollywood Brown look, he couldn't set his feet. The ball sail on him. It got a little high. But for it to come down to a throw at the end of the game. And when you're down, they're down. They're starting quarterback, the MVP quarterback. They're down that offensive line, they're down two starting corners, and all you can muster was 20 points. And I understand it's a rivalry game. I understand it's on the road, but there's a chance you don't get home field and you're on the road. So then what? And every team that your face are. Is better than Kansas City is right now. Every team, whether it's the Texans, whether it's the Chargers, whether it's the Jags, whether it's the Patriots. I don't care who you want to face come post season. Everybody, because of their quarterback situation and because of their defense is banged up and the offensive line is banged up. I don't know. I just want. I just. The thing that I know is that when you're playing your best football heading into the playoffs, that normally bodes well for you come postseason, most definitely, you want to be hitting on all cylinder.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Obviously it takes for the goddamn head coach to have goddamn trust and confidence in his quarterback to be able to make the right decision with the ball. And that opens up the playbook. That opens up the playbook. And we can tell those who watch the game and those who play the game, they can tell when the head coach trusting his quarterback by the goddamn play calling. What you drinking over there? Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Usually by cool. I got a little cooler.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That's a cooler. Hey, where you got a little mini cooler from? Where that cool?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Whoa, whoa, hold up. Hey, they got no. It ain't got no bagel.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

No, I want one. I ain't never seen no cooler that goddamn small. Why.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't never seen nothing but small either. But it's refreshing.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You got it for Christmas.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That cool, refreshing drink.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Okay, what kind of. What kind of drink? What you drinking in there?

[Shannon Sharpe]

That.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Whoa. What you Grandma. Huh? Hey, Krill.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You drink. I mean, you drink. I mean, you have something.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, I know what it is. That's a little eggnog in there, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ain't no. No, ain't no egg. Ain't no egg. A little something. Little something. A little. Okay, okay, Let me show y' all a little concoction I've been. I've been working on, okay?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, you got. Oh, you got something new coming out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

A little concoction. You don't pull a little something down, okay? Oh.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, you got.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, hold on.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

What's the chaser? What's the chaser? I. You know, I don't drink, but I know about the chaser. What you use as your chaser?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Little old ginger ale.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Okay, so ginger ale and laportier. Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, man. Y' all try.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, you know what you need to do? Hey, you need. Hey, I know. It's crimson. So you. You might want to pop one part one of them sparks, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man, Ocho, I'd be like Superman. It lay in the bed. I can't. I can't even lay down on my stomach in the bed. If I pop one of them, the last thing I want to do is Superman.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, you got to. You got to. You got to go out the new year. You got to go out the right way now. We only got a few more days.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, the new year. Oh, I'm out like a scout of the new out. He. The new year. I'll be 26. You know what I'm saying? My probation officer say I've been doing good. He said, I ain't been. I ain't. I ain't went too far. He said that time with oo. He said that was pretty funny. But. But other than that, sh. You been good. So we go. We might have to move your date up a little bit. I said, okay. I sure appreciate that.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, we can move it up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

We dam. We get damn. We get damn. So move it up. Listen, we only got about how many days left in the new year? What? Six.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The day. We only got six.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, we good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, you.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, you might well start. You might well warm it up right now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, we all. We only got six, rj. I mean, look, it was. It's a quick. I. I'm not making excuses, but it's a fast turnaround. First of all, it's Christmas. You just played Sunday. You're a little sore. A lot of people probably want to, you know, want to be with their family and, you know, got kids and Want to open present. Especially if you're the road team, you're the rotate and you're playing the last game of the evening. So not only like at least the Cowboys or Detroit, they're going to get back in time in order to do something. Man, the Broncos not gonna get back Till well it's 2 hours difference in the time for 10, so it's 1 hour difference of 7. They might get back. Nah. So I will. You leave the stadium an hour, take your hour to take off. It'll take you about an hour and a half to get there. So it's gonna be probably around midnight, maybe one o' clock if everything, if everything goes according to plan. But look, it's tough playing divisions game. Kansas City is not an easy place to play. But you couldn't ask for better conditions. You could not have asked for better conditions this time of year for Kansas City. Nobody had on sleeves. Nobody. Cuz it was, it was so warm. You like damn. I'm like damn. I remember going to Kansas City in December and I ain't getting no weather like that. Hell, I remember going in November and not getting weather like that. So the weather was, was, was perfect. But a part of me can't understand what Sean Payton was thinking. He's like, look, this team, unless we do something crazy, we give them a pick six, we give them a scooping score and that's how they scored. If we don't, if we don't turn the ball over, they can't beat us. So if we make them run the field, if we, excuse me, if we make them go the length of the field and not give them short fields, don't give them pick sixes, don't give them stupid scores, don't do what Detroit did. The they saw what Detroit did earlier. Oo six turnovers. That's how you get beat. That's how you get eliminated from the, the playoffs. We saw this with Detroit last year against Washington in the divisional round. They had five turnovers. Jerry Golf, Jerry Golf had a day. He, I mean he, he, he, he, he, he messed your fans today. But the Broncos Look B Knicks 26 and 32, 38, 182, one touchdown, one interception. Nothing to write home about. There was nothing really to write home about. I, I kind of feel bad for the fans that stayed up and kind of watched this game because what they were hoping for, I thought Courtland Sutton had a couple of plays on his hand that he let get away from him. He look that first one, you a Pro bowl receiver, you probably should come down, but that's okay. I'mma forgive that one. But that down. No, no, no. The first one on third down that he dove out. V. Nick's stepped up in the pocket. I. I kind of forgive that one because he tried.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

He.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He. He dove for it, and he didn't get a chance to bring it in. So what?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

He.

[Shannon Sharpe]

In the process. By the time he got that, it hit the ground, it popped out. But that touchdown. You got to have that. Yeah, you got. You. You definitely. You got to have that because you can't give away.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Drag the crossing, right? That got up on the pad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. Yes.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, both. Put some heat on that one, boy. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He's gonna have to. He's gonna have to learn some touch. Ojo. Everything. Everything. You can't be throwing through a hurricane. Have some touch. Have some touch. But look, I mean, Kansas City couldn't have any more. Worse looking what they had. But your starter gets hurt, your backup gets hurt. You're down your two starting corners, you're down your right tackles. You're right. I mean, I don't know if trey. I don't know if. If Trey Smith played, so. Probably only really started. That's in there. It's probably your left guard and your center. But they battled. They'll be back next year, the Broncos. I'm sure Sean Payton's like, hey, we won the ball game. It was a short week. Congratulations. Now we get. You know, you get some time off. Tomorrow's Friday, so you probably get fried. They probably get the rest of the week off. Oh, probably get Friday, Saturday, Sunday. I'll see you guys Monday.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Listen, you. You might as well. You might as well. Look, we in week 17. Week 17. Yeah, man. You know, everybody's in rhythm. Allow them boys to rest up, recover, spend time with the families. You know, I mean, we just played Sunday. We came right to return right around, turned right back around and played Thursday. I mean, played Thursday, didn't turn right back around and play Sunday. Y' all go ahead. Y' all go ahead and chill for a little bit.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They're one win away. Look, the Broncos inch closer. All they need now is for the Chargers to lose. If the Chargers don't lose. The Chargers play the Broncos the final game of the final regular season game. Ocho. If the Chargers beat the Broncos. And beauty Houston Texans, they win the end of the AFC win. And they're trying to. Look, they're trying to do everything they can to hold on to that number one seed because New England. New England's in position to get it and, and Jacksonville is in position to get the number one seed. So this is a very important, this is a very important game for the Broncos. We'll see what happens this weekend. They get an opportunity to sit back and relax and says okay, we've already taken care of our business. Let's see what happens this weekend. And they'll know what they're definitely what they need to do come weekend and next weekend and see if they can place that number one seed and the AFC west division title. But so the Broncos are 13 and three Ocho. The New England Patriots are 12 and three. Jacksonville's 11 and four. The Steelers are nine and six. That is, that is your, your division leaders as we currently speak. The Chargers are 11 and 4, Buffalo is 11 and 4 and the Houston Texas are 10 and 5. So that's, those are your wild cards as we currently speak. Now obviously the, the number one seed, the one seed, two seed, three seeds, all that can fluctuate. All that can fluctuate. But as we sit right now, the Broncos are the number one seed at 13 and three. The Patriots are the number two seed at 12 and three. Jacksonville the number three seed at 11 and four. And the Pittsburgh Steelers are round out the top the division winners division leaders at nine and six. So there going to be a lot of people scoreboard watching on Sunday, Ocho. You know how it goes. Like, oh, okay, we here. Let's see what they do. Come on man.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Stand at the scoreboard the whole game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You gonna be cheer, you gonna be cheering for teams that you normally hate. Like I don't know why I gotta cheer for you guys, but come on.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You hate being in that position where you have to rely on someone else for your destiny. That's one, one of the worst feelings in the world, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

It is. What a matchup we got, y'. All. This is that classic HBCU vibe. Non stop action. The band is rocking and the crowd lit chance echo drum beat everybody showing that school pride. Game like this, yeah, it calls for an ice cold Coca Cola. Ah, crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right there. M. Yeah, that taste always hits the right note. Just like the band at halftime. And just like that, we're back at it. Passionate fans, school colors everywhere and in ice cold Coca Cola. That's a winning combo no matter the sport, no matter the yard. Everybody knows fan work is thirsty work. So grab a Coca Cola and keep that HBCU pride going.

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[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Campbell, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ain't nobody want to talk about that because they won the first time he took over and everybody was talking about, whoa, yeah, yeah, okay, okay, now let's. Let's talk about it.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Look, good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

A young.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I'm. I'm trying to. When it comes to the play calling, I'm trying to talk about the running game. What happened to the goddamn running game at Jameer Gibb was on fire week to week. I'm talking about back to back weeks. He was putting up crazy numbers, hitting his head off the goal post from. From way out there in the field. Then all of a sudden, the past, what, four, five weeks, the running game has been abysmal. It's somewhat disappeared. I'm not sure what's going on with the goddamn offensive line. What the hell is wrong with the goddamn center? He forgot how to snap the goddamn ball.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, and your left tackle, you got Skipper playing at left tackle when really he's a swing. He's a swing lineman. He comes in, Ocho, he always rubbing himself, letting the officials know that he's eligible. He's not a guy. No, unfortunately, Ocho Panay soul, he's your best offensive lineman. He might have to. You might have to kick him to the left.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You got to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You wasted him on the right side.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You have to listen. He's a Swiss army knife. He can do just about. He can play right guard, right tackle, left, left guard, left tackle. He can do it all. He's that good at what he does. And the fact that, hey, goddamn Brossmer was 9 for 16 for 51, 51 yards, 9 for 16, 51 yards. This ain't. This ain't Pop Warner. This is the NFL game. This is a chat. This is the NFL game. The stats for a starting quarterback. He's a backup, but he was started tonight in a real game. In a real game where you got one of the top three receivers in the NFL on your team in Justin Jefferson, huh? With another great duo right alongside him and Jordan Addison. Like, is the quarterback play that bad? Is there a development problem when it comes to quarterbacks in the NFL? For you to have one of the. I'm talking about with your eyes closed. I can get the ball to goddamn Justin Jefferson. What are we talking about? He got to be frustrated. I know a lot of people be like, oh, he's not like that. He's not into drama. Oh, he's not a diva. The hell you say, man, Y' all better wake up, man. The man want. The man wants to produce. He wants to be able to, you know, help his team win. Justin Jefferson had four catches for 30 yards. He can catch four balls for 30 yards.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Walking to his car with me.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Come on, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, that. That. That. That's not his fault. That's the organization fault. Everybody don't know how to build a team.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

The quarterback carousels, the inconsistency at quarterback with the starter, the starter who continues to keep getting hurt. It's always something else. Something else going wrong with him. Well, hell, the more and more the season goes on, the more they should be kicking themselves about letting Sam Donald walk out. That almost curse, but ain't gonna curse.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They should.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

They should be kicking themselves about letting. Sitting on the. Walk out that goddamn dough.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They absolutely should, Ocho and being cheap. I mean, think about what they paid him. I think Seattle paid him $30 million, maybe $33 million a year. Gave him some incentives proper. Bump it up to 35, 40.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That's a bargain.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The guy won 14 games for you last year, so you're gonna go with an unproven guy. And I. Look, I get it. We took J.J. mcCarthy. I had my concerns about McCarthy because they were a running team. Now the likelihood of you coming into the NFL, you gonna have to throw your way to a championship. You're not running your way to a championship. Look at all the running quarterbacks. Name me one that's won a championship running the football. Steve Young had to figure out how to throw it from the pocket. My. My guy, number seven, had to throw from the pocket. Lamar Jackson is one MVP's because he's gotten Better throwing from the pocket. You've got to throw from the pocket. And so it can. It, it set up my like, hold on, y' all taking a guy this high and all he did was basically turn around and hand the ball off the Charbonneau and Corbin and, And y' all think that's the guy that's going to take. Which I got Jeddah and y' all got all these high power weapons and y' all feel comfortable with that. Okay, y' all know more than me. Y' all scouted more than I did. Okay, I get it. But he stayed. He, he got injured. He missed his entire year. How many times have you been nicked this year and had to sit out? There's a reoccurring theme now. Your backup, Carson Wentz, he got hurt. No, hey, no surprise there. He's always getting hurt. And now you got a guy that's kind of bounced around and I don't know what you expected to get out of 9 of 16 for 51 yards. He was sacked seven times. But if, Look, I think it's only fair that Dan Campbell gets some criticism because we, we applaud him when he goes for it on fourth down. We applaud him for having this team ready to play. All I know is this, Brian Flores better be getting some serious consideration.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Go ahead.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because look at the job that he's done against the Detroit Lions and back to back week. Now imagine if you had a quarterback would back it up that could get backed up by that defense. Yeah, you got, you got Dallas Turner, you got Van Ginkel. Oh, you that defensive legit. Harrison Smith is still playing at the top of his game.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Murphy Jr. Just imagine if you had an offense that can put them in a depth that could put you in a deficit more times than not, instead of you playing from a deficit. Because they know, look, guys, if we, if we fall behind, man, there's a good chance we, we gonna lose. And we ain't got enough things that can go get.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I mean, the funny thing about it, when you think about it, they got the offense. They just missing one piece. They missing the centerpiece. They missing the most important piece. They missing the one that makes the most money for a goddamn reason. The quarterback. Yeah, that's, that's, that's all, that's all, that's all they're missing. That's why you understand quarterbacks don't come around that often. They are very far. They're very, very, extremely hard to find. For those in the chat that have been watching the game of football for a very long time. You understand by watching and understanding maybe your team might not have a quarterback and haven't had one for years. You understand how hard they are to come by. So you, when you get one and you get a small sample size of what he can do, which Sam Donald showed you last year, you don't let him walk out the door because you just drafted somebody in with a 10 pick in the first round.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Not at that price, Ocho. Not at the price. Now if you had to pay him 50.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That's different.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's different, Ocho. You got him for 30 million and plus a couple incentives. Okay, you take us back to you win the division, we'll give you another million dollars. You make the Pro Bowl, I give you another million dollars. You play 65, 70 of the snaps, I give you another million dollars. I'll incentivize it so he can get the 40 million. So he feels good about himself. Obviously he like, man, I won 14 games last year. The team is back. I still got Jetta, I still got Addison, I got Hawkinson, I got Jones in the backfield.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I'm good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The offensive line's a little beat up, we coming and going, but hey, I'm good with that. I played behind it last year, I can do it again this year. I don't, I don't know what, what, what they were thinking. Quarterbacks don't grow on trees. Not good ones.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

No, absolutely not.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean it. Look, grass. I mean you, you can find vines and stuff in kudzu, they spread like wildfire. But really quality stuff you don't find often. And when you get a quarterback and you've seen his body of work, so you know his study habits, you know his practice habit, you know how he performs in game situation. I don't know what more you need. You don't know what JJ McCarthy habits are come game time. Because he hasn't been in one. Not a real game. Okay, his study habits. He hurt. What else can he do? I think they dropped the ball over here, Socho. Considering what's in that division, you look at what's in that division. Caleb Williams not going anywhere. Jordan Love, not going anywhere. Jared Goff have another three, four years. Not going anywhere. You're behind your defense rivals all of them. But where you lack is your quarterback. That's the most important thing.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Is it?

[Shannon Sharpe]

So that's what needs to be Ocho in this game. Jetta Pass Randy Moss. 8, 375 yards for the most receiving yards by a Player in his first six NFL seasons. Well, he gonna probably be upstairs, say, hey, man, I need y' all to go get me a quarterback.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Because he could have passed.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey. Because I'm struggling. Oh, so this man struck. I mean, come on now, Ocho. 17 games, 17. A receiver getting a thousand yards. It ain't nothing. That's basically. Basically 62 yards a game. And I'm paying 35 million for 62 yards a game. Ocho. No, and that's not his fault. Ain't nothing he could do about that because he can't throw it to him damn self.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You right, because.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you know what's gonna happen. You know what it is. Hey, man, you know, eight. I know. It's not all your fault. Ain't none of it. You be all my fault. Ain't nothing about, you know, the game.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You know, you know the game. And listen, what I do like about. What I like about jealous jealousy. Pure class. Huh? He pure class. You know, he say all the right things. You put that camera in front of you, asking the right question, he gonna give you what you want. He gonna give you everything you want. But I know how he really feel. You could tell it in mannerism. You could tell by how you walk. You can see it in his eyes, you know, but he holding back. So I'm hoping management does their due diligence in addressing the situation and getting Young Bull a quarterback, because he's on a historic run. He's on a historic run and gonna go down to one of the best to ever play this mother. I almost cursed again. You're gonna go down as one of the best they ever played his game and accomplish stuff in such a short amount of time that not very many have done before. And him not having a quarterback, an adequate quarterback, is. Is. Is hurting. It's hurting.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It absolutely is hurting him. Oo. And the thing is, like you said, there's his historic numbers, and you look at what he. Man, this man missed damn near half the season, came back and got over a thousand yard, made the Pro Bowl. Now he says, I played a full season, and you mean to tell me I got to struggle? I got to go into the last game to get a thousand yards, and y' all as put up his numbers. What he. What does he have right now? They might have to force feed him to get a TH000OO. You might win out. You. You got. Are you muted okay?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah. I mean, hold on. I thought he was at a thousand already.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hold on. Let me See that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He gonna need. He need to go into next week and go crazy. Nah, he don't need to go crazy. He got 947. He's 53 yards short. He had 40 tonight. So it's not out of the realm of possibilities.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Is JJ McCarthy coming back next week? If JJ McCarthy coming back?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, he fractured. He fractured a bone in the throwing hand.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I don't give a. Wrap that up. Come on back.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He can't grip the ball hand.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, come, come on, man. Like, I mean, well, Brossman, I mean, listen. 50 yards they can get. They can get it. 50. He got to get that thousand yards. He has to continue. He has that thousand yards. I'm sure, I'm sure the Vikings organization, the play caller head coach, they're going to make sure he does get it to keep that historic pace and what he's done since he's entered the NFL. Get, keep it going. And I have one question I want to ask you about the Detroit Lions. Chat you guys, chat you guys to chime into. Do we give Dan Campbell any kind of grace? Do we give him some grace? I know we love his bravado. We love the fact that he's very confident in his players, his team, especially offensive because he's one of the few coaches, regardless of analytics, regardless what anybody says, he always goes for it on fourth down. But do we give him any grace even though this is a fail season, right, because of the injuries he's had on defense this year?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, they had those injuries last year and they still did it. I mean, you kicked, you take the points early and last week you kicking up, you kicking the ball to, to win the game in Pittsburgh against Pittsburgh at home. His play calling have left something to be. I mean, hey, let's, let's just call it what it is. I mean, he took over the play calling and since he's taken on the play calling, they've lost 40 last five games because we sure gave him credit. We show lauded him when they won and he started to call it, taking over the place and he let it be known that he was taking over the play, called it. So no, we don't, we don't do no excuses here. Aiden Hutchinson has been Aiden Hutchinson. Jack Campbell was all over the field today. Muhammad doing what Muhammad does all over the field today. The defense didn't play bad, bro. It's hard to overcome six turnovers.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Absolutely right. Hey, please tell me, listen, I hate to go back. I want to talk about one play with, with Hutchinson. Please tell me you Saw him do that. That Euro step spin. Oh, my God.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If you had any doubt if his leg. If it's. That that leg was healthy.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And quick.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, that was nice. That was nice. He got a nice little bag on. He got a nice little toolbox on. Nice little toolbox.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And then he got Muhammad on the other side. Muhammad flushing one side. Hey, it's like. It's like a hunting. You know, the. The. The pointers go in there and flush the. The game out. I pick them off. Okay, you flush him to the left. I got him. You flush him to the right. I got it. Yeah, we work with that. Hey, y', all, collapse the pocket inside so he can't step up. He gotta come. What? He gotta come. Look here, Ocho, I'm playing up all the holes. He gotta come out of one of these two holes, and I'm gonna. Hey, I got Muhammad plugging one, and I got the other plug in the other. He got nowhere to go. Look, he got the most yard for the first six years. I don't know. I don't know how much they're gonna have it because Chase right behind him. Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, you know what I mean? Those two are gonna be neck and neck throughout their entire career.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, I think Chase gonna pass it because Chase got a quarterback now. I don't know how long Chase gonna have if he wants to stay in. Whatever. That's a. That's a discussion for another day. But long as he has him, he has a decided advantage.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You got to be careful. You got to be careful because look what you just said. He has a quarterback now. There's only so many teams now they have quarterbacks of that magnitude where you can leave one team and go to the next. And that. That. That production continues to remain the same. It ain't that easy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right? And you see. Think about it. Look at what just had. You say whatever you want to say, but first cousin, you protect him, he pick you apart.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Surgical.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And last year, he get. He get. He had no drop off because Sam Darnold came in and played extremely well. So he had no drop off from Cousins to Darnold. And then he gets J.J. mcCarthy, he gets Went, and he gets Balmer, and you see a pre. A precipitous drop.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That. That's. That's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

It hurts me, and I'm just watching.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It hurts me, too. But I don't really know what else. I don't really know what. I don't really know what else we can do, Ocho. I don't know. What else we can do? Just hope keep his head up. Because you look, we've both been in situations like that. You more so than me being a wide receiver and, and having a level of expectations and playing to a certain standard. And then because people don't really care about the quarterback situation, they all they want to see. They see Ocho Cinco, the back of that jersey 85. Well, I don't see no dancing. Well, I don't see no sombrero on the sideline. Why? I don't see no. I don't see no. I don't see no jokes anymore. I don't see no antics. I don't see none of that. What's going on?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, I remember.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You see what's going on?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I remember them days. I remember them days.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So the Dallas Cowboys beat the Washington Commanders by the score of 30 to 23. The Cowboys had 17. What a matchup we got, y'.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This is that classic HBCU vibe. Non stop action. The band is rocking and the crowd lit. Chance echo drum beat. Everybody showing that school pride. Game like this. Yeah, it calls for an ice cold Coca Cola. Ah, crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right there.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Mmm.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, that taste always hits the right note. Just like the band at halftime. And just like that, we're back at it. Passionate fans, school colors everywhere. And in ice cold Coca Cola, that's a winning combo. No matter the sport, no matter the yard. Everybody knows fan work is thirsty work. So grab a Coca Cola and keep that HBCU pride going.

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Head to insider, usski and snowboard.org and join today. First downs in the first half while the Commodores Command Commodore the Commander Red 18 play lot of Richard would be proud of me. The Commanders the Commanders ocho Cowboys had 17 first down. The Commanders ran 18 total plays, yet the game ended in a one score game. Dak Prescott 19 to 37, 307, two touchdowns, zero interception, but he was sacked six times. Malik Davis ran the ball 20 carries, 103 yards, Javante Williams 13 carries, 54 yards, Hunter Lupecki 7 for 30 and then Dak had 4 for 2444 carry for 2 11. Gavonte Turpin goal post, another nice though. One catch, 86 yards of touchdown. Pick was reliable, didn't get a whole lot of opportunities but he was 4 for 78. CD Lamb was 5 for 46, Josh Johnson was 15 or 23, 198, no touchdowns. Jacori costume 11 carries, 7, 105 yards. Debo had two. So they have 16 carries, Ocho. Yeah, 16 carries for 138 yards. So this is why people asking, man, I don't know how the Cowboys missed the playoffs. The Cowboys got a 4,000 yard rush, a passer, 2,000 yard receivers, a thousand yard rusher, and they can hope to be 500. Because the defense, when you got a defense that does stuff like this, that they won't tackle, they won't tackle, they need. Look, they need to get linebackers, they need to get middle backers, those. They got the guy from Cincinnati. I'm sorry, Ocho. There's a reason. What? Think about it. You think Cincinnati gonna let good stuff go?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

No, sir. They had. He had. Hey, listen, Murray, he had younger players in front of him that were better, huh? That's all it was. They got. They got. They got a mode on them. They sideline the sideline. They faster, they look better in coverage. There's so many factors that go into play when they let. When they let certain people go, okay, you don't fit the system anymore. You don't fit the system. And what we'd like to do, probably still a good player. He probably stick with a player in the right situation. It just wasn't a good fit there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They need.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

They need. Hey, you look, the Cowboys, I'm not a gm, Unc. I'm not a scout, but I understand football. I've been. I've been watching it long enough. I've been. I mean, I played it long enough. I've played it all my life. You know, the Cowboys, they need a difference maker, huh? On that line, you get you one. All you need is one chat. You just need one. Get you a difference make on that line in, huh? And get you something in that. On that back end on that third level. Come on now, we can come to the party. You ain't got to bring your own drink. They gonna let you in. Get you in and get you somebody on that third level. Man, I ain't talking about. Just know anybody. Somebody decent. Some. Somebody of quality, high quality, man. You're gonna be all right, Cap.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho. Cowboy fans, let's be real. Since Duron Bland got paid, he's still balling.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

He hurt. That's not fair.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That man was like. What do you mean?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He might have been hurt today, but I'm talking about leading up to this year. Trayvon Diggs, he's injured. He hadn't been the same. He had a great year. And you Heard you heard Jerry talk about it. Jerry says sometimes he likes to get outside of the scheme. Okay, you can get outside of the scheme, but if you get outside of the scheme, what must you do? Ocho, you gotta make plays. See, he's a feast of famine Corner. He'll get you, but he gonna give.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Us what I do like to. And why you're on the top of digs. Like when I think about DBs and NFL, and this goes for all of them. Because you have to understand, if you make one mistake, if you're out of position, it's a touchdown every time. Yes, that's. That's. That's how. That's how the NFL works. But what I like about DBs, and this goes for every single one, 95 of the DBs they play this game not to get beat. There's 5% that play to make a play. There's a difference in the two. And it's only. It's only two categories. You plan not to get beat in the other 5%, they plan to make a play. Trayvon Diggs in that 5%. Now, sometimes they gonna get him, but the other times he turned that ball over and it's going the other way most of the time for six.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think the problem is, is that you got to know when to do it.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, yeah, right. You're right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause you got a best ride to get a situation and you go for it and you. Let's just say you tie a top six. That's what's gonna happen. And we're gonna talk about this a little later. I think Quinny Williams, phenomenal. Quinny Williams deserved to go to the Pro bowl this year. He didn't. He went to the Pro.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You said he did know he did. He.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He did not earn the right. He's going. He. Hold on, hold up.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Wait.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cowboy fans, y' all know him going.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

To the Pro bowl is a carryover for what he was doing with the Jets.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nothing, Nothing, Nothing, nothing, nothing. Let's be real. Chad, hold on.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I don't got. Hey, listen. I don't have his numbers in front of me. I don't have his numbers in front of me. So I'm not sure what he was doing. But he went to the Pro bowl for reason. You gotta understand, it's the players that vote on that. So the players see something in Quinn and Williams based on what he was doing with the jets, as bad as they were, he came over here in the trade to the Cowboys and they still voted him in. So they voted him in. For a reason. He got to be doing something. He making some kind of noise in them trenches. I don't be in the trenches. Huh? My last time in the trenches was back in 1983, out here in Liberty City. Now, them trenches on that football field between them white lines, I don't really. I don't really play in there. I don't play in there, but I know Quinn Williams like that. Talk to me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Can I interest you for two and a half seconds?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Take your time. Wait a minute. Hold on, hold on, hold on. He's a run stopper now. He's not. He's not Aaron Donald.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no. Jerry said. No, no, no, no, no, no. So. So. So.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hold on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm trying to find. So what? No, no, he's not played to be a run stopper. Jared said he can get after the quarterback.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

No, Jerry landed like Jerry laughed through his teeth. Yes, he did. Hold on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

In 2020. Hold up. This is what your run stopper you say? Yeah, run stopper. In 2020, he had seven sacks. In 2021, he had six sacks. In 2022, he had 12 sets. In 2023, he had five and a half sacks. Last year, he has six sacks. So you. You want to take that back?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Talk to me. Wait.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Take.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Take your time. Okay? Take your time. He's a deep.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He got two and a half sacks.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Damn. Hey, he had it down. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You right. You right. You right. Hey, probably. Probably. The jet situation probably took an emotional toll on him. Hey, he's a. Hey, Unc. Hey, he nice, though. He nice. He nice. Listen, I know this season has been up and down.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I've seen him be nice. He. I'm just saying he wasn't Ocho. And see, that's the thing. This is the part that I hate about the Pro bowl because I've been there before. We'll get about. We'll talk about this. We'll come back to this. We'll come back to this. The Cowboys. Look, Dak is going to have a. End up with a phenomenal season. They're going to debate and see if they play him tomorrow. Ocho, that man got hit six. That man got sacked six times. Six. And he got. He got Ben a couple of times, like, whoa. Damn. Damn. Dang. Oh, I gotta be careful. So they're gonna wait. They're gonna. They're gonna look at this because the last thing you want to do. Oh, you're not going nowhere. And I know Dak wants to play, but do I want him to play behind this offensive Line. Oh, y' all asking me how many tackles he got? 17 on the season. I'm just going by what the stats say. Regular season said he got. Hold on. Let me see.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

He got more than 17. 17 tackles on the season.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh? Hold on. Give me a second.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, you gotta understand, too. That young bull taking on that double team now, too, boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Joe Ocho, I'm paying you 20 million. So. So what's Jeffrey Simmons doing?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What'S Brown from Carolina doing? What's Jordan Davis, Jaylen Carter, nor Quinny Williams earned the right to go to the Pro bowl over Jordan Davis. Jordan Davis has outplayed him.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

He has. Jordan Davis has been phenomenal this year.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

He has. He has.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I'm a. I'm a. I'm a two. I'm a. I'm a TV watcher, and I know what a defensive tackle is supposed to be. I played the game long enough and I watched the game closely enough. You don't know a three, technique, a five Technique, a seven, a wide nine, a Cowboy. You don't know any of that.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That's me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't know what a shade. You don't know what an under tackle is. Y' all just talking. Y' all know. Y' all watch the. The. The. The stat line. I can tell you when he's in the shade, when he's in a Free Tech. A five, a seven, a hard knot, a wide nine, a cowboy. I know all I know when they're playing cover five, cover six quarters. Tampa, too, Cloud.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y'. All. Y'. All. Y' all testing your football knowledge against the wrong guy.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Wrong with y'. All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

With that being said, Jordan Davis from the Philadelphia Eagles. I think about Ocho. Jalen Carter missed the last three games.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

He did.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Jordan Davis got more sacks, more tackles than both of them. As a matter of fact, he got more sacks than both of those guys combined. I'm not saying they're not phenomenal players.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

They just didn't. They. They didn't deserve to go this year.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This. This. This is the year. See? Oh, this what I say. It's Pro Bowl. Can't be a lifetime achievement of things. It's got to be year to year. Did you play well enough this year to earn the right to go to the Pro Bowl? Let's be real chat. Let's be. Put all the things aside. Do y' all believe Jordan. Do y' all believe Jalen Carter and Quinnie Williams had a better season than Jordan Davis? Go back and watch the tape. Since Y' all say y' all watch the, watch the tape and you tell me if Quinny Williams and and Jalen Carter had a better season than Jordan Davis. I defy you. This so good.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, you got that. You. You got that lick in your system, boy. You got to lick in your system, boy. You.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, but I'm gonna tell. I'm gonna tell the truth. I'mma really tell the truth.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Now go ahead, let it rip. Now go ahead and let it rip.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We good because you know what they say, ooh, drunk, angry people and kids. So I ain't got no choice.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Let it out. Let it out. Tonight we ain't got nothing but time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm just saying just go, go back and watch the tape. Forget the stats, go back and watch and you'll see who making plays for the Eagles in the D. Tackles. Is it Jalen Carter or is it Jordan Davis? Go back and watch Quinny Williams tape and go back and watch Jordan Davis's tape. It ain't close. It's not close. Ocho Tensions are reportedly heating up between Lamar Jackson and the Ravens front office. Teetering on the edge of making or missing the playoff. The Baltimore Ravens are possibly playing a crucial Week 17 game without Lamar, who's dealing with a back injury that he sustained in week 16. Baltimore columnist Mike Preston published a piece detailing a level of friction between the organization, in particular Lamar's conditioning and his handful of injuries this season and a length of return from each each of them. Preston also position the idea that the Ravens should look at every option with Lamar this off season, adding that Lamar would love to play in Miami. Ian Rappaport reported, well, where this goes, it doesn't feel like to me there's a little bit inflection point. Lamar had the opportunity to re up this contract before the offseason. At the time and a lot of people thought that he would did not happen. The Ravens are at very least have some things to figure out about and some relationships to discuss in the off season. I'm not saying there's anything that's going to blow up, but at least there need to be some conversation about how everything, how everyone can move forward together.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey Young Hey Chat. How would Mike Preston know that there are issues going on with Lamar in the front office?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't saying nothing. I'm just gonna let whatever happens happen. I'm gonna let it happen because see, if I say something, I hate the brother, so I'm gonna let it play out.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I said I said it earlier. Chad, listen to me. Listen to Me, anytime a reporter says something. I saw a lot of Ravens fans when I commented on, on the article and said, well, if they don't appreciate you, Lamar, come on down here to Miami. We appreciate you. Everybody jumped on my head. So I don't listen to Mike Preston. That's fake news. He doesn't know what he's talking about. I know you guys not might like him as a reporter, but one thing they don't do is they will never write anything or say anything where their credibility is not intact. It come it, it's coming from in house. Anything he writes, anything he's saying is coming from in house. Listen to me. As much as y' all love Lamar, I love Lamar too. I can only see number eight, that young bull out of Pompano. I can only see number eight in a Raven jersey. But this game, this game they're doing leaking information purposely to the media and then the media writes certain stuff and you kind of wonder, oh, he just writing that out of nowhere. No, it's coming from inside the building. They do this on purpose. This is the game they play. They do this all the time. Did not just Lamar Jackson to all the great players, when things aren't going well, when the season doesn't go the way it should go, oh, maybe it's time we do this. Oh, maybe it's time they do it to everybody. And now it's his turn. So I'm, I'm just like. Just the thought of it, just the thought of a two time mvp, one of the best top three top five quarterbacks in, in the NFL. You know, someone writing the article and him being somewhere else. It's a possibility. It is. As much as, as much as we love him. I'm just telling you this the way it works, the front office, the organization always leaks stuff like this just to get the ball rolling.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Always. Oo they got. I said, look, Lamar's been injured. Lamar's not injured. I say, well, he missed five games in 21. He missed five games in 22. He's already missed three games. This, there's a possibility he'll miss one or more games the rest of the season. So that'll be five games. So that'll be five, five and five. Now the thing is, is that when you pay a quarterback that kind of money, you know, the best ability OJ Ability, availability. And look, it's not, you know, I don't know anything about the conditioning or anything like that. And maybe, maybe it hasn't reached that boiling point in which Mike, because I know, Mike. I was. I was in Baltimore. Maybe it hasn't reached that. That point of no return, but maybe they're like. Well, damn. Damn. They're gonna make a decision. Ocho, I mean, he got a cap here probably like $70 million, probably next year. What's his cat.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hold on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What's his cap here? 73.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

73 or 74.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. Yes. I believe Lamar. I believe he tweaked his hamstring. I believe I saw him get kneed in the back. Yes. No, I do not think Lamar Jackson is faking. I've never thought he was faking about an injury.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

No, he.

[Shannon Sharpe]

His back hurt. The guy kneed the hell out of his back. Them knees hurt. Ain't no. Ain't a whole lot of padding back there in your back. There's not, but they're gonna have to make. They're gonna have to make some tough decisions. They're gonna have to make some tough decisions. Z Flowers making the Pro bowl again. Oh, that's 28 million dollars. That's 28 million if you pick up the 50 option.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

What you think?

[Shannon Sharpe]

They've got some tough decisions to make. This roster has gotten old. They've let it get old. It did.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, what side of the ball is old on? Not. Not the offensive side.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The defense got old, but the offense doesn't have the, the playmakers. Okay. Likely is going to be gone because they. They. They redid Andrews. They redid Andrews. Bateman. I. I don't know. I. I don't know what this.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I, I like. I like bait.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know. Oh, I. I mean.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I mean, what, what you think about this now? What.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

What. What are you looking for based on the type of offense that they run? And Bateman's not going to be your Jamar Chasey, Justin Jefferson putting up those type of numbers because they don't use them in that manner. They don't use them in that fashion. No. When the opportunities do present themselves, he makes the plays. So it's kind of hard for him basing the off based on the offense that he's in. He doesn't get the. The volume of targets that other receivers get. He gets to showcase what he can do. Now, that. That's not. That's not fair.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho. Here are the stats. New England, no catches. Pittsburgh, two catches. Cincinnati, no catches. Minnesota, one catch. Miami, two catches. Chicago, two catches. Louisiana. One catch. Houston, no catch. KC, one catch. Detroit, five catches. Cleveland, two catches. Buffalo I mean.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I just explained it to you perfectly. I just said it, baby. I say I can't. I can't put it. No, no better than I just did. He can only do what's asked of him. You know, you can't produce unless you have opportunity.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

And.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And they. I mean, they got more. Got more fumbles than touchdowns. That's not a good stat, Ocho. That's not. The man got more fumbles than touchdowns.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

They have it a dial. Yeah, they having a down year, baby. They haven't. But I tell you what, if. If the. If the ra. Listen, you. You know how. You know I love my Raven fans?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey. Yes. But.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, we. We'll come back to that. Hey, Chris.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What a matchup we got, y'.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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