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Nightcap - Hour 1: Brady/Belichick reunion, Mayo’s lack of discipline, McDaniel loses locker room
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Shannon Sharpe
Hello ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for joining us for a very special edition of the Night Cap. Oh, what a game, what a game, what a game. The two best teams in the NBA Lockhorn and the game was everything that you expected it to be. But the Cleveland Cavaliers prevailed to move to 32 and 4 while the OK City Thunder fall to 30 and 6. But it was a very, very interesting ball game. Y'all know me, I'm your favorite. Shannon Sharp, that guy. Liberty City's own Bingo Ring of Fame honoree. Team didn't make the playoffs. Pro Bowler All Pro. Y'all know they complained it all day. Nobody want to see us. Y'all didn't want to win no games in September, October, November either. So I guess we y'all didn't want them. Y'all didn't want it. They didn't want it. But everybody got what they deserve, what they earned anyway, y'all know. So thank you again for joining us. Please make sure y'all hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit that like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. And we thank you. Starting off 2025, you guys have shown your support. 23, 24. And thank you for the continued support. In 25, make sure you make sure you check out Chez by La Portea. We have it in stock. I know some of you guys are still celebrating and what better way to celebrate than with a bottle of Shea by La Portier. Now, if you cannot find it in a city or state near you, we're about to be in Illinois, we're about to be in Florida. We're in the D.C. maryland, we're in the D.C. mD, Virginia area. So if we're not in an area that you can find it, order it and we'll ship it directly to you. And please drink responsibly. Go check out my media company on all of its platforms that Shay Shay Media and my clothing company, 84. With 84 being spelled out, our newest release just dropped last month. T shirts, sweats, beanies, koozies and mugs. Quantities are limited, so please make sure you grab yours while supplies last tickets for the super bowl show. Our first tour stop is in New Orleans and that's February 6th. The link is pinned at the top of the chat. We got some great guests lined up for you. Please, please, Titus, stop. Lay down. Please make sure you join us. You don't want to miss this. And I want to send everybody here at NICAP want to send our thoughts and prayers to everyone that's being impacted by the wildfires in California. So thoughts and prayers go out to you and yours. Hopefully everybody stays safe. Please stay vigilant. But we know there are a lot of people that's been displaced. Some people have lost all their possessions. But you have life. And so let's, hey, let's cling to that. You didn't lose the most important things. All those things can be replaced. Life cannot be replaced. And I know some of those are keepsakes and memorabilias and all that, but I, I pray for everybody gets gets out of this thing healthy and gets back to some normalcy very, very soon. So our thoughts and prayers from everyone here at the Nightcap family to those impacted by the wildfires going on in la. Oh, the Cavs. As we talked about a little earlier, the Cavs ends the match the Thunder 15 game win streak. And it was a battle a great this is what it should be. When the two of the best, the two best teams in the NBA when they lock horns. This is what it should be. But The Cavaliers prevailed 129 to 122. Jared Allen had a monster night. 25 points, 12 rebounds, 6 assists, 6 assists. He was plus 7. Evan Mobley 21 and 10. The weighed 11 points. Donovan Mitchell did not have the best night shooting. He was three of 16, two or seven from the floor, from the three point line, three or four, he only had 11 points. Darius Garland had 18 points. But they got great production off the bench from Mike Spruce, Ty Jerome, 17 points, 15 points respectively. And they were able to overcome Shay Gil, just Alexander, he had 31. He's right there with Nikola Jokic and Giannis for the MVP this year. Jamal Williams, Jalen Williams. Excuse me. Jalen Williams had 25, Wallace had 15. But they played really well. But it was just too much that size that the. The Cavaliers have. Evan Mobley goes about six foot six. Eleven.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Jared Allen goes six, ten.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
And they did a great job on the glass. Isaiah Harden Steel got in trouble, foul trouble early, so he wasn't able to play the his normal minutes. But I like Hardenstein, man. I really like him. He's an effort guy. He plays hard, he goes out and do it, does all the grunt work, set great screens. Ocho rebounds the basketball, but he can do a little bit of everything. He can pass the basketball, he can score right around the basket. Gets a lot of cleanup. You don't have to run plays for him. But I like what I saw tonight. These are the two best teams. I know the Celtics are the defending champs.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Right.
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Shannon Sharpe
But these are the two best teams that's currently in the NBA.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, listen, I think, I think OKC missed. They missed. They missed. They miss him especially. Especially with the lineup tonight. They've been having. They're having huge problems with the two bigs, obviously, and they can't move the ball up and down the court, you know, in transition, effortless, effortlessly, you know, and shit. Despite Donovan Mitchell not shooting the ball well, the rest of the team played extremely well.
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Shannon Sharpe
They did.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
What's which one if you had it?
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Shannon Sharpe
Aries. Garland.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
No, not Garland. God damn. What's his name?
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Shannon Sharpe
For who? For what team?
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
OKC win number two.
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Shannon Sharpe
Shay.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, Shay. That's what I'm trying to think of. I'm trying to think of Shay's name if you had an MVP right now. Is he still in your running again this year?
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes, yes, him. Nicole. It's the same cast of characters. Right now I would have Nikola jokic, he's averaging 30, 14 and 9. It's hard to overlook that. But Shay's right to Shay. I mean, look, you flip a coin, Giannis is going to be in the mix. I don't know if Giannis record is going to be conducive for him to get it. But right now if you had to make me pick, I would probably lean Giannis but excuse me, I would probably lean Yoke but if somebody said nah, Shannon Yoke ain't it this year it's Shay, I ain't fighting you, I ain't putting up no healthy, I'm not putting up no healthy discussion and saying man look at what Yoke is doing. Yoke is averaging 30. The most Shaq ever averaged in the season is 29. Look at the rebounds, he's averaging 14. The most Tim Duckett has ever averaged in a season is 14. You look at the nine assists, there haven't been very many bigs to ever nobody, right? I don't even think when will, when Will won assist title as a center he didn't average nine assists a game. So you look at a guy, he's having a career year as far as points, rebounds and assists and he's shooting, shooting 40 plus percent from the three he's shooting 57% from. Look we can go on by Yoke, he's a three time league mvp, could easily be a four time MVP and by it's all said and done he might win four or five of these things. But Shay Gilgis, boy I know the Clippers are kicking themselves in the ass because they traded him and all those draft picks and those pick swaps for Paul George because Kawhi said if you don't get him I'm going go to the Lakers. And they could, they could not have Anthony Davis, Kawhi Leonard and LeBron James on the same team in the same building in the same city. So they did that. Kawhi has been unable to stay healthy. Paul George was not able to stay healthy for extended periods of time. He's now in Philly. Kawhi just got back. He's not going to play the back to backs. He left the team to deal with some family issues because they're being impacted by the wildfires in LA and we get all that. But with that being said, Shay Gil just has turned into a bonafide superstar and that's what you have to be careful of. And they've got this team is young now when Caruso gets back, he's been dealing with a hip injury. So he's been, I don't think he's played more than five or six games. When he gets back and you mentioned Chet comes back, you talk about the defensive because then you got Lou dor And you got Caruso that can defend the wings, you got Chet that can defend the rim. And you got scores. And Jalen Williams and Shay Gilgis, bro, you look at em, Ocho, you're like, they shouldn't be this good. Cause if you really, really look at it, they only got one all star, one superstar. And most teams have two superstars or multiple all stars. They really only got one. Now Jalen Williams might make it this year, but right now we know Shay's gonna make it. Cause he's one of the two or three best players in all the league. But when you look at him, you're like, how did this could. But you watch them play. Yeah, they watch how they play off.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Each other and they play well together. They play very well together.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, they play really well together. The same thing with the Cavaliers. And I understand Boston is the reigning defending champ and they still got very good. Hey, look, jb.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Eastern Conference mvp. He was Finals mvp. We know jt. He's been all NBA player the last three years. JB has been an all NBA player a couple of years. But the Cavaliers are the best team in the east. And right now it's not close. Right, it's not close right now. And obviously in the West, OKC is the best team. I mean, and to have two teams like this, a 30 and six and a 32 and four. So you got 35 games into the season and you've got two teams that has 30 plus wins, two of them. And I think Boston has like. Well, Boston has like 28, 29 wins. They might have 30 by the end of the night. Yeah, I don't know if. Look, and I know they're saying the bat is down. And I don't like all the three point shots either. OJ I don't like. I mean they coming around chucking up threes left and right. I mean, I think the average is about 65 to 70 threes combined per game. Yeah, they, they just chunking them up. And I don't think people are very, very excited about that, that style of play. And a lot of have to do that. I think the fans don't think the players are playing hard and they're sitting out, you know what I'm saying, Ocho? They got low management. They got this. And it's impacting the game. The rating says it. I don't care what anybody says. The rating says fans aren't watching the games like they once were.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, I mean, listen, the game is different. It's evolved. It hasn't evolved for the better, as most would say. If you look at the ratings, the ratings are suffering because of it. I'm not sure what Adam Silver can do. I'm not sure what the players can do about it. I mean, the game is play hard.
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Shannon Sharpe
And start jacking up threes.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
I mean, listen, they don't play defense. They just, they shooting the ball, they shoot mid range, they shooting threes. And just the game isn't going to change. I'm not sure what they can do to, to attract the eyeballs and the viewership the way it used to be, but I don't think, I don't see it changing anytime soon.
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Shannon Sharpe
No, because everybody say, you know, that, that, that three, you know, you make two, three, that's the equivalent of, you know, the percentage. You don't need to shoot 50% from 3 if you make enough threes. And so they figured we make, if we make somewhere around 23s a night, we're gonna beat you.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Cause the likelihood of two teams, both teams making 20 plus three. So they're hoping it, but you know, they're getting up 53s a night, 63s.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Come on.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Come on, bro. It's all your fault, Steph Ocho. Only four teams have posted a better record through 36 games than what the Cleveland Cavaliers have. Golden State, when they set the record of 73 and 9, they went 34. 2. The Philadelphia, the Warriors, I think it was the Warriors. They were 1966-67, they were 33 and three. The Lakers in 71, 72, they went on a 33 game, a 33 game winning streak. They, and they won the title. They were 33 and 3. And the Bulls 95, 96 in which they went 72 and 10. They also were 33 and 3. So you can see what elite company these teams are in now. Golden state lost to LeBron's team. No. Yeah, they lost to LeBron team. That was the year they went. Yeah, they lost to LeBron, the 73. 9 team. The Bulls won the titles, the Lakers won the titles. Did the Sixers win the titles that year? I think, no. I think what you call them, one of the Celtics won it because The Celtics wanted eight straight years in the 60s. So I think they lost one year to the, the St. Louis Hawks led by Bob Pettit. And then they, they, they, they whitewashed it. The the so. But the Cavs look really good. They got D. Mitch seems to be playing. He seems to be happy Seems to be like he wants to be there now, right? There were speculations he wanted to go to the Knicks and that still might be the case. But I know he's playing extremely well, like right now. Darius Garland, who was an all star. Jared Allen, very efficient, nine for 11. You don't have to run. Played for him. He's going to get it off the rim. He could. You get penetration, live it up to him. The same thing with Mobley. Mobley didn't shoot the three ball well tonight, but he's, he's a 40 plus percent shooter from the three ball. He was efficient from the floor. 8 of 13. Those two bigs are going to cause you a problem because they're going to get a lot of rebounds. They're going to get a lot of extra chances. They had 12 offensive rebounds tonight, so. Cavaliers end the OKC Thunder 15 game winning streak with a 129, 122 victory. Ocho. Bill Belichick to the Raiders. He has a $10 million buyout now. It drops to 1 million on June 1. The Raiders have a new cat, have new cash from Tom Brady, Richard Seymour, minority stakes. Brady are still close with coach Belichick. Could offer him power and control. Needed to leave uncle. Well, damn. If that was the case, you got all these college kids happy, got Unc all happy. Why don't you just wait your happy ass out another month?
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
But listen, he probably didn't know that the opportunity was going to present itself. I wish Brady had told Bill this a little earlier before he took the job.
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Shannon Sharpe
That's Terry, you can't do that.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Huh?
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Shannon Sharpe
You can't do that.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Well, see, that's why he didn't know. So he had to take the job that was available. I think, I think the vacancy is going to get filled. I don't think Bull can act. I don't think Bill can actually pull out from UNC right now. He's already invested. After we work today, he went.
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Shannon Sharpe
That seemed to be a problem with you too, huh? That seemed to be a problem with you too.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
What?
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Shannon Sharpe
Pulling out.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Hey, but listen, listen, on a serious note, listen, after we, after we left, after we left work today, you know, out there in Philly, Bill was right back on the road, you know, going, going to recruit. He's, he's. Yeah, so I mean, I mean he's, he's, he's, he's locked in. I think it would have been a great opportunity for Bill to, to be the head coach of the Raiders and, and have that full control To. To kind of build the type of team you want to. I think the only issue for Bill is if he was to go to the Raiders, I mean, he still wouldn't have a quarterback. You still don't know what.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, you got to get. I mean, they're going to be in position. Why are you in here? Why you trying to steal my shine, bro? Who that?
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Who that? Who that?
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Shannon Sharpe
Titus tried to steal my shine, man.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
What up, twin? What up, twin?
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Shannon Sharpe
You want to go stay with OO in Miami?
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah. Come on down here, man. Come on down here.
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Shannon Sharpe
He ain't got no treats. He ain't gonna take me on no walk, but, yeah, pretty dogs in that hood say, nah, Ain't no scenery down there. Yeah, everybody got the bullo dogs.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Bring him on down here. I took. I take. Good.
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Shannon Sharpe
I think the thing is, Brady, look, Tom understands what it. Look, maybe that. Maybe that wears on you, Ocho. But at the end of the day, Tom Brady wants to win.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Tom Brady like. Yeah. I can. Sure. I can assure you that Coach Belichick style wears on you, but winning. If I'm gonna win, wear on me.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Right? Right.
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Shannon Sharpe
Ride me. But listen, I want to come. Go ahead.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
This is what I have to say now about Coach Belichick style. I think this is one of the reasons why he's gone to the collegiate level to show the owners, to show. To show people that he can resonate with the young, with the younger crowd. He can resonate with the younger generation. Even though he has a certain coaching style, he's going to show you that he can change. He can adapt to today's era, in today's climate, as far as the kids and coaching are concerned, and find a way where he can relate to them, just like the younger coaches that are taking all the goddamn jobs in the NFL now.
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Shannon Sharpe
I think. I think it's harder now for Coach Belichick because these kids here, they making money. Everybody in the NFL want to build a brand, right? Offensive linemen want a brand. D lineman want a brand. Everybody want a brand. Ocho.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
And so ain't nobody really trying to listen to everybody trying to. Oh, I'm trying to. I'm gonna start me a podcast. I'm gonna start this. I want people to know who I am, blah, blah, blah. I'm preparing for the future. And they don't realize it's a lot easier to build a brand when you win. Jordan brand was built on winning, right? Tiger brand was built on winning. Tom's brand was built on winning. Lebron on winning, Steph Curry on winning you. It's a lot easier to build a brand when you win. People want to associate with winners. Yeah, it's not that complicated. I think sometimes we make it more complicated than what it is. But when you win, look at Jeter. Jeter was a winner. And so when you win, people want to be around winners. It's always been like that. I don't know why you so needy tonight. I've been around here all day. I wouldn't have no show. I've been with you all day, bro. This joker here, man, I don't know what's going to him tonight. Ojo, I've been riding this joker all. Oh, nah, he.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
He. He know. He hear my voice. He hear my voice.
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh, I've been here you all day. But it's. I mean, for me, I think Coach Belichick. Cause here's the difference between a college kid and an NFL adult. The college kids are trying to get to the NFL, Right? That's why the coach is the end all, be all. He's a de facto boss. A guy that's in the NFL. I'm already in the NFL. What you gonna do? I make 30 million. I make more than you.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Right.
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Shannon Sharpe
It's hard to tell somebody that makes more than you what to do. Yeah, normally the boss, he makes the most. He tells you what to do.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Right.
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Shannon Sharpe
Ash over here shaking her head. Hey, but, but in the NFL. Oo, you know these guys. And we're going to talk about this a little later about the Miami Dolphins situation, what Mike McDaniel said earlier today. But I think Coach. I think Coach Belich. Yeah, you got to get a quarterback. I don't care. Coach Belichick, as great as he is, we saw when he didn't have a quarterback, it didn't work out very well. Can't.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
You can't do nothing. Huh? You can't do nothing. You can't do nothing. And listen, right now, if he was to go to that job and not have a quarterback and lose, I think his leash would be just as short as everybody else.
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah, for sure.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Leash will be just as short as everybody else. And there would be no way for him to compete at any level until he gets someone in there that he can build around.
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Shannon Sharpe
But let's see. I mean there's gonna be some quarterbacks available. Do you make a play for Sam Donald if he's available? If they trade JJ McCarthy do you make A play for him. Cousins. He might be available. Do you trade for him? I mean, look, I mean, there'll still be a quarterback. I mean, you might have to move up if you want a Cam Ward or you want to Shador, right? Maybe. It all depends. You got Brock Myers, you got Jacoby Myers. I mean, you got some. You got some okay pieces. I mean, Brock Myers is legit now.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Really.
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Shannon Sharpe
Kobe Myers had an outstanding year this year. Maybe you add another wide out. Hey, do you go get a T. Higgins?
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Ooh, not to be talking.
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Shannon Sharpe
Is that. See, that's the thing.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
There are so many teams that need a number one receiver that has the cap space.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
You do. So.
- [30:12]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, the Patriots got cap space. So if I. If. So if I go put. If I go put T. Higgins in Foxborough with Drake May, they got Jalen Pope, they got Hunter Henry, Ramondre Stevens. Stevenson. I think it's Stevenson. So they got decent pieces.
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T-Mobile Representative
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
So that's the thing. 10 me is. Cause June 1st is too much. I mean, no, Ocho, I need guys. I need a coach in place sooner rather than later, right. Cause it's like they got this June 1st day. Like, it's like a June 1st designation for release. You know how they do the NFL players on your. If this. If you're releasing now, but after June 1st, it's this. And you see right now, you got a $10 million buyout now, but it's after June 1st, you get. Cause they know the likelihood of A coach signing June 1. But we want to punish you.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Right.
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Shannon Sharpe
Get a little bit of this money back. Yeah. So what you think?
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, I don't. Honestly, I don't see it happening. And knowing Bill, understanding his character, knowing how he is, once he's locked in. Into a situation, he's all in, Right? He's all in. He's not going to be on the road doing all the things he's doing. He's been sworn in as the head coach of unc. He's made promises, and he's going to fulfill those promises right there. Unc. Now, if anything, he might. He might play. He might coach for a year or a year or two. And that buyout, know that clause, whatever it may be, might be triggered and he comes to the NFL and maybe the Raiders job might not be there. It might not be there.
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. You're not going. Hey, we saw this with the Patriots. We saw. We're going to talk about this a little later, right? One and done, guys. I mentioned Jalen Pope. If you look at Quentin Johnson, if you look at his rookie year, you thought he was a bus. Y'all quick to labor somebody a bus after one year, right? I can tell y'all, y'all don't know football because y'all expect everybody to be Jamar Chase. Y'all expect every receiver to be Justin Jefferson. Y'all expect every running back to be Derrick Henry, Barry Sanders or Emmett Smith, Right? Sometimes it takes longer. Everybody, every tight end that come in the league ain't gonna be Brock Bowers. Every quarterback ain't gonna be. Ain't gonna be, you know, start off like, be Jayn Daniels. But that's what y'all expect because y'all don't know the game because y'all just expect everybody automatically to boom, boom, boom. Just. Just come out like gangbusters. It doesn't work like that. I said, Jalen Polk, you should be happy. Oh, I don't watch football. Well, if I didn't watch football, how the hell I know Jalen Polk was on the Patriots? Oh, oh, you do watch football. But anyway, as I was saying, sometimes, Ocho, it takes you a little longer to mature and turn into the players that they thought you. Now, that doesn't always happen, right. Sometimes you have a bad rookie year, a bad second year, bad third year, and they get your ass out of there. One of my former teammates, son, they took him in the Eagles. They took Jaylen, I think. What did Regan. Didn't he go to. Jalen Reger? Didn't he go to the Eagles?
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
That's my dude, man. I love. I love rigor, man.
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Shannon Sharpe
Eagles. And think about who they passed on. They left Justin Jefferson on the board.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Look at some of the guys that they passed on, and it didn't work out for whatever reasons, but sometimes guys need a little bit more time to get. Because the NFL game is different than the collegiate game.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Guys put hands on you, especially once they find out you have trouble against.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Press coverage getting off. Yeah, man. Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Everybody gonna put hands on you. Yeah, that's just. That's just the way it is. What's. That's a. But the film study is different because once a guy find out your weakness, well, you will have to get up out of that. Yeah, it's just like Adrian Peterson had to break the habit of fumbling the football because they start attacking the football. You got a problem putting that ball in the dirt, we gonna try to punch it out every time. Oh, oh, you got a problem getting off press coverage, huh?
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah. And listen, not everybody up there playing.
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Shannon Sharpe
Like left the Hayes, listen.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
And obviously, and then when you do have issues like that at the receiver position, then you make your offensive coordinating job a little bit more. A little bit more difficult. Because now you got a scheme you open.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Now they have to find ways to push in positions to free yourself up and get you open on their own instead. I call it as a receiver, you can make your coach's job that much more easier. The more you're able to do, the more you do, as far as your skill set is concerned, the easier you make everyone job around you.
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Shannon Sharpe
Right? Yeah. I mean, but I can only scheme so much, Ocho. There's only so many times I can stack the formation, I can bunch the formation, I can boast the formation. At some point in time, I got to put you outside the number and say, son, go get open.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Hell yeah.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Oh, yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
At some point, at some point in time, I'm gonna need you, and this is what I tell guys. I'm gonna need you to play a blub to play sheet. That's what I'm gonna need. I got all these players, I got two other players on the sheet, but I'm gonna need you to play above that.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
I like that.
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Shannon Sharpe
And that's what I always tell the young. Yes, they got all those plays, but sometimes I need you to play above that because I can't always diagram plays to scheme you open. I need you to go get open. Just like on the defense. Yeah. I can run all these twists and exits and I can run a text, I can run a wex, I can run, you know, I can run a swim. I can do all this stuff. But at some point time, son, just go beat the man in front of you. Damn. That's what it comes down to, son. Just go beat the man in front of him. And it's really that simple. So we'll see what Coach Belichick does. Tom Brady's had great success with Coach Belichick. He knows that system work, but he also knows he needs a quarterback and to make that system work, because defensively he's going to be able to scheme it up. He's going to try to minimize the mistakes. He knows that you pay a heavy price when you turn the football over. He knows nothing cheap, nothing deep. Coach Belichick does not like to give up big plays. He wants you to go on 12, 13, 15 play drive because there's a greater chance if you have a 15 play drive that something will happen or if you let somebody bomb over your Head in three plays. So that's what Coach Belichick tries to do. He tries to make you nickel and dime your way down the field. Now, if he get a Gilly defensive player of the year or he'll get a reverse, now, he ain't got a problem playing man coverage if he got the dog to go play it.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
And the funny thing about it, it's, it's what Bill would do. If you don't know Bill, when you play the better teams, he gonna put the best, he gonna put the best corner, let's say, like a Revis. He gonna put Reavis on the number two, and then on your number one, he gonna double your number one.
- [36:50]
Shannon Sharpe
Yep, yep. That's what. And that's, that's how a lot of guys do it. And. But Coach Belichick, we'll see what he does. I know at the end of the day, he wants to be in the NFL.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
I mean, I've never seen a coach like this with this credential go back, go down. But it just goes to show you how much he loves coaching. Yeah, he wants to coach. He's a coach, and he needs to partake that knowledge and wisdom on someone and just sitting around talking to you, slapping on inside the NFL, that wasn't good enough for him.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah. So also, I think he likes the challenge. I think he likes that it presents and it's something good for him to somewhat dominate outside just like he did in the NFL. So I'm sure he's going to enjoy it.
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Shannon Sharpe
Jarrod Mayo struggled with discipline and how to enforce it. Pat Players lost faith in Mayo during the season. Jarrod Mayo played cards with players after Arizona lost instead of watching film with assistant coaches. The report says on the long plane ride back, most of Mayo's assistant grabbed their laptops and study cut ups from the loss, the customary move for NFL coaches during a return flight after the game. But in a move that surprised some at the front of the plane after such a lopsided loss, according to a team source, Mayo left his spot near the front and went back where some of the players had gathered to play cards, choosing to hang out while his assistant watched film.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
What you think by now, you think.
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Shannon Sharpe
That'S true, but for them to get off that, man, after one year, Ocho.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
And then I, I don't like the whole I lost faith. But coach, man, man, listen, you, you have a job to do. You, you have a job to do. Your faith is supposed to be in you. As a head coach, he has a job to do. Boom. Exit, knows leader of men. All that stuff, man. All that I have faith in. I ain't trying to hear all that. You got a job to do. You go to practice every day. You're a grown man. You get paid to play a goddamn game that you love. I don't want anybody know if he.
- [38:53]
Shannon Sharpe
Was an assistant coach. If he was assistant coach and he wanted to go as the head coach. You can't do that.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, you can't do. You can't do that. I understand.
- [38:59]
Shannon Sharpe
Not. Not. Not the head guy right now. If you a position coach. Hey, but normally. Normally, you ain't doing none of that ish. After a loss.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
No.
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Shannon Sharpe
You ain't playing no cards. I don't know what type of playing they on, Right? That was no soul playing when we lost. That thing was silent, quiet.
- [39:20]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
You was search mouse.
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Shannon Sharpe
You whispering.
- [39:23]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Ain't no. Now if you win. Oh, yeah. We're throwing caution to the wind.
- [39:27]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
You wow. You wow.
- [39:28]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes, yes. And we playing cards before, you know, we start. I mean, we all. You know, we always had, what, advertising sponsors that ride the plane, man. We used to roll dice, man. We done took our jacket off, loosened up our tie, shirt. Hey, we rolling dice. Until Mike came back there and says, guys, it's not Until Mike came. Mike told us, hey, it's not a good look. You know, we got sponsors, we got advertisers riding the planes. Look, I understand that you guys want to have. But, hey, let's not roll the dice. Let's not have money out. Okay. Hey, what room you in?
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Oh, yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Hey. Hey. So, hey. Cause, you know. Cause they have. They have all the keys, you know, the room on the table when you walk in. Ocho is in 8. 8:25. Yeah. Hey, man, I'm. Hey, card game, dice game up at 8, 25.
- [40:20]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
I remember them days.
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Shannon Sharpe
But like I said on the plane that I was on, right. It wasn't a whole lot of noise going on when we lost the game, Mocho.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Now, you know, for a couple of years, we didn't lose a whole lot of games. I think in 96, 97, 98, we lost, what, three. Seven. We lost nine games in three years. So there was a lot of. A lot of hoopla, a lot of fun going on. But for the most part, man, you ain't doing no talking back. What did I want to talk about? I'm mad we lost. I'm mad, I'm sore, I'm moody, I'm irritable. Nah.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah. I mean, listen, there's Certain things, you know, as a head coach that you can do, especially after. After. After a loss. When I think about it, a coach like that, he's a player's coach. He's someone that played the game. I think he's a little different than Dan Campbell, but I can see Dan Campbell doing something like that, you know.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. After a win.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
But instead, like Eddie Hunt, but as a head coach to Ocho, a head coach still, even after win.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Right.
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Shannon Sharpe
You have to rise above stuff like that. Now, we have some, like, position coaches. They would come in there and shoot shots with us or, you know, they would. You know, they would do certain things. But not Mike.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Right?
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Shannon Sharpe
Not Brian, not. Hell, no. And Dan Reed was. First of all, was none of Dan. Coaches doing that, Because Dan was old school, and all his damn coaches was old school. Hell, now that was gonna fly.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
And the funny thing about it is we're thinking from. We're thinking about it from a perspective of how old school coaches would be. But I'm thinking about this generation. This generation and the younger coaches, you know, to not relate to the players more, but be able to connect with the players more and doing some of the things that would be normally be frowned upon, you know, when it comes to head coaching position. So I kind of see it, but I kind of don't. And I kind of stand with you, in a sense, for saying, as a head coach, you just can't be doing that. Especially.
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Shannon Sharpe
There's certain things you just can't do. Ocho.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Right, right.
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Shannon Sharpe
But here. But also Ocho, you got to realize it's only one year removed from Coach Belichick. So you're gonna have to get some years in there before you get that idea, that ideology and that line of thinking out of the building. Because a lot of those people are still thinking the same way.
- [42:34]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Right.
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Shannon Sharpe
And so once you get. For a couple years, you win. Now you get now. And I get what he was trying to do. He was trying to like, okay, Coach Belichick did it this way. But I think Coach Belichick was. Let's just say this. As far as you can go, Left.
- [42:48]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Right.
- [42:49]
Shannon Sharpe
That's far as you can go. I think he went too far.
- [42:51]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Right, right.
- [42:52]
Shannon Sharpe
Instead of finding someplace in the middle, Ocho, I thought he. He maybe have gone too far to the right to try to say, well, I'm. I'm going as far away from what Coach Belichick did is I possibly can. And sometimes we have to find a middle ground.
- [43:05]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
In order to operate to get the Job done. But. Yeah, but I think everybody was surprised. I mean, I didn't expect to hear this come. This coming out. And it came from. Like I said, Ocho, it's hard, man, when people team sources, when. Like I said, when people start. People don't want to get sued.
- [43:23]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Right.
- [43:25]
Shannon Sharpe
For putting out faulty reports. Just like Jimmy Butler's agent did all that talking. Oh, Shams, I don't normally take time. Now, look.
- [43:35]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
- [43:36]
Shannon Sharpe
Sham says, I've never vetted a story more than I vetted this story. He did all that hollabaloo, all that hollering and yelling and screaming to try to direct. Yeah. That was true, right?
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
- [43:49]
Shannon Sharpe
And come to find out, it was true. And that's what you have to be careful of. Because like I said, if there was no leaks, there was no NFL source, no team source. Why would we need an Adam Schefter? Why would we need a Jay Glaze? Where you think they get that from?
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, it kind of got to come from somewhere.
- [44:11]
Shannon Sharpe
They built up relationships.
- [44:13]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
- [44:13]
Shannon Sharpe
Because guess what, Ocho, A coach might be one place. You got a relationship with him. Guess what? He goes to another place, you still got that relationship with him. A general manager's at one place. He goes to another place, you still got that relationship with him. You've built up a relationship with a player. Player move. Boom, boom, boom, boom. Guess what you do, Ocho. You got us. You got a source. Boom, boom, boom, boom. They don't look. People don't look at it like that. Oh, he lied. He lied. I'm telling you how it works. I ain't telling what somebody told me. I'm telling you what I know.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Everything comes from somewhere.
- [44:47]
Shannon Sharpe
Right. And that's why they say my source. Well, if you ever. If Adam Schefter ever outed any one of his sources, he never work another day again. No, if Jay Glazer, if any. If Shams or A WO when they were reporting, saying, I got this from X, they would never, never work another day because nobody will ever give them. And when they give you information, you didn't get it from me.
- [45:09]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Right.
- [45:09]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. Put it in your words. Make it sound like you talking. I ain't telling what somebody told you. I'm telling what I don't. But they get mad at me when I was talking about stuff that I knew for a fact. Oh, how you know you ain't in the locker room? I might as well be. I might as well be in the locker room. Oh, yeah, but you notice, Ocho, I don't really do this anymore because I'm like away from it. But I noticed. But when people say what I was saying, what I was saying when I was on, there ain't nobody say she had a line. Nah, that was the fan talking about, I don't know what I'm talking about. But ain't nobody in the organization, not a player, not a coach, not a gm, they would say, I don't know. That is, that is. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. So I like, I feel bad because one year is not a lot of time.
- [46:03]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
A lot. One year, one year is nothing.
- [46:06]
Shannon Sharpe
It ain't nothing.
- [46:09]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
That's the shortest leash ever. And all that is is admitting that I think I made the wrong choice. When you thought I was the successor for being Belichick.
- [46:19]
Shannon Sharpe
He hand picked him. Yeah, you got hand picked it.
- [46:22]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
You got to give, you got to give him a chance. He didn't even give him a chance. And then, not only that, you interviewed Byron Leftwich, you interviewed Pep Hamilton.
- [46:29]
Shannon Sharpe
You know, man, you ain't been hired, none of them.
- [46:31]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Listen, you got to check the boxes for the Rooney rule. You got to check the boxes. You know, you, you know you're going to bring him Ravel, you know, you're going to bring him in Bravel and allow him to take over. And now Braver will get the, the grace, you know, to continue to improve the team. Right away he'll get more than a year.
- [46:49]
Shannon Sharpe
But he also got a second year quarterback.
- [46:51]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, yeah. And yeah, he'll be, he'll benefit from that. He'll benefit from that. Drake, Drake May has shown, Drake May has shown flashes of, of being a very good quarterback. And he obviously as a rookie he's at, he's had his bad moments.
- [47:12]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [47:13]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
You know, which is normal. They have a good quarterback though. They have a good quarterback they have to work with in the future.
- [47:19]
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho, even, even if that was the case, I hate that somebody put that out there because that makes him look bad for his next employer.
- [47:27]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Right.
- [47:27]
Shannon Sharpe
And that's the thing that I don't like. Okay, all that might be true. I'm not saying that it is. I'm not saying that it isn't because I don't know and I haven't called any Ron. Cause I don't care enough to call around and ask and find out if it was true. But all I'm saying is that that follows you if, that, if somebody put that out there. So that's why you got to be careful what you allow people to say about You. Because that follow you to your next job. That follows you to your next employment. Go ahead, Ocho.
- [47:55]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
What you think about Variable coming back? Right? Well, it's coming back regardless what you think about Mayo. Taking it. Going back to the deepest. The coordinator job.
- [48:04]
Shannon Sharpe
I don't like that.
- [48:05]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
You don't like that at all.
- [48:06]
Shannon Sharpe
Let me ask you a question. You're the CEO of a company, and somebody hired a new CEO and they said, okay, Ocho, you go back to work, be the president. You cool with that?
- [48:14]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
No.
- [48:15]
Shannon Sharpe
No, I'm not exactly. You might go be the president at somebody else company, Right? But you ain't gonna be the president at that company.
- [48:21]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Right.
- [48:22]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
- [48:22]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
I'm just curious. Having a job is better than having not. Not having one at all, because you got.
- [48:32]
Shannon Sharpe
Hello? They got. They gave me three years. I got two more years to pay.
- [48:36]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Okay, I see. I see you.
- [48:37]
Shannon Sharpe
I got. I got. I might not have no job, but I got money coming. I got a job, but I do. But I do got money coming in.
- [48:48]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
All right. That's a good one when you put it like that. Okay.
- [48:53]
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know why you so needed knife, bro. You ain't never been like this.
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Shannon Sharpe
Wasn't that delicious? So good.
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Shannon Sharpe
I got it. No, I got it. Seriously, I insist. I insisted first. Don't be silly. You don't be silly.
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Shannon Sharpe
Okay. Rock, paper, scissors for it.
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Shannon Sharpe
Shoot. No.
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Shannon Sharpe
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Shannon Sharpe
My jacket and the guy next to.
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh show Mike McDaniels said that some players have been repeatedly late this year and fined multiple times. He said that the fines haven't been effective and nothing moved the needle. Let's take a listen to what he had to say.
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Amazon One Medical Representative
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Hey. Huh. Hey. Let me tell you something. But when you're losing, huh? When you're losing, you notice how everything is magnified when you lose.
- [53:49]
Shannon Sharpe
Never accept anything in a win. You wasn't in a loss. It's hard for me to believe that they just started showing up late this year. Now, I could be totally wrong, Ocho. I'm not there. But it's just hard for me to believe that guys because being late is a repeated behavior.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
It is Miami. Huh? You know that? Huh? It is Miami. You know, them late nights at Tussies, them late nights at G5, the late nights at Club Space and all the.
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Shannon Sharpe
Stuff they have going on, you know, not winning.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
I can understand. Yeah. Yeah. But can I ask you a question?
- [54:30]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Why are they talking about that? Why is he talking about that today anyway? Why is it even a concern or is that. Or is he using that as a crush on. Why they would.
- [54:39]
Shannon Sharpe
Well, I mean, it just goes to show you just how little control that coaches have, especially when you let that behavior go. You have an. It's going to be hard for him to crack down because he's been so lenient. It's easier to be hard and lighten up as opposed to be light and try to toughen up.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Right.
- [54:57]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm just look, and I've been in sit. And I understand it. It was a lot easier for me to deal with anything after I had Coach Reeves. Coach Reeves was old school. He played for Coach Landry. He was an offensive coordinator under Coach Landry. And Coach Landry was very matter of fact Coach Landry. There was no nonsense. He did not bull jack. And so anything that came after that, it was hard for me to believe unless I got Coach Lombardi that it was going to be any tougher than what coach I had to deal with with Coach Reeves.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Right.
- [55:27]
Shannon Sharpe
But my grand. But see also the way I grew up, very structured. This is what you do. If you don't do it, I'm gonna tear your ass up. It was simple for me. It wasn't. No. Well, I wonder what happened. If I don't take this trash out and Papa told me to take this trash out, I Wonder what's gonna happen.
- [55:44]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, okay.
- [55:44]
Shannon Sharpe
Brandon told me to have this grass cut by the time she got off work. I wondered what was gonna happen. There was no wondering. There was no. I don't know what was gonna happen. But it's because now these players don't have no fear of authority. They make so much money. So if you take $1,000, you take $2,000, that don't mean nothing to this.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
And you. You also have to remember players that do come late and those.
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Shannon Sharpe
That.
- [56:07]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
These things. These things, you're. You're regular, normal players. You know that.
- [56:13]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, he talk about what's come. He. These are his best players that are late.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, that. That's. That's who doing it. Because obviously the players who don't make that kind of money, the players who aren't superstars, ain't the ones showing up late. No, that's definitely not. That's definitely not what's happening. So listen, you gotta. You talk. You talk to your big dogs. You talk to your players that had that. That had that.
- [56:34]
Shannon Sharpe
That. That don.
- [56:34]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
That C on your chest, on the jersey, and have. Get them. Get them boys in line. Get them in order.
- [56:41]
Shannon Sharpe
Well, how can they get in line if they late? I mean, how can you tell. How can you tell me to be on time when I'm sitting in my chair and you walking in five, ten minutes late, Right? You late to practice. I'm just trying to figure out what. I'm trying to think. I can see guys, you know, guys. Hey, guys used to come out their shoes untied, everything. Cause, hey, Mike, 2:00. Y'all ain't gonna be on that fee, right? And you might have your shoulder pad. Hey, and Mike still might be in one of the moves. They say you late. Cause your shoulder pads, you ain't dressed accordingly. So that still might cost you.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Right, right, right, right.
- [57:14]
Shannon Sharpe
But I'm trying to figure out, Ocho, you. How do you late when you already there? Yeah, Ocho, I can. I don't. I can't say I see. But Ocho, you already in the damn building. How you late for practice when you already at the place you need to practice at, right?
- [57:35]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
I don't know. I don't know. They got. They. Like I said, they got to get it together, though. I know that.
- [57:45]
Shannon Sharpe
Look, I was late. I've been late twice in my life. Once I depended on somebody else. That won't happen again. That's why I don't depend on nobody else. And then it was a snowstorm, and Mike Said, hey, when did you realize it was going to be a storm? You should have left earlier. You right, you right. Go ahead and take the little 1200 out of my check. You right, I'm wrong. Hey, it wasn't like I didn't. Hey, I'm in Colorado, right? It was snowing when I. When I. It was snowing when I left. When I left. As a matter of fact, we had played the Carolina. I'm offensive player of the game. Ocho. I don't think if I had to been offensive player of the game. I don't even know if he'd know I was late. Cause he called offensive player of the game. Hey, this guy had seven catches. Buck 74. Hey, our All Pro 84.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Present, man.
- [58:40]
Shannon Sharpe
Somebody say, hey. Hey. Thank you, coach. Damn. But Ocho. Ocho. You can't be Ocho. Late to meetings.
- [58:48]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, late to practice.
- [58:50]
Shannon Sharpe
Come on, guys. But see, well, see, that just goes to show you that explains why teams don't win. See, y'all think. Y'all think it's. It's all about the game. All fans see is the game. Games are won Monday through Friday. Monday through Friday. Because the discipline that it requires you to get your ass to practice on time, get your ass to the meetings on time. That's the discipline that you'll need to display come Sunday in order to win. I never understood that. I'm glad that I grew up. How I grew up. I didn't understand it at the time. That why my grandfather. Everything was punctual. We was always the first to church. Church don't start for another 30 minutes. But we there sitting in the damn car. And then 15 minutes before we sitting on the front seat in the church, ain't nobody else there but Barney. Mary Porter, go make sure your black ass was there. I just. But that's just. Go. Look, that's just me. That's just me. I just. I'm gonna be on time. I just think that's just a common courtesy. I think everybody should be on time. That's not asking too much. That's your job. I mean, I'm trying to figure out what other job does an NFL player have Ocho. That will require him to be late. I get it. Maybe for some unforeseen circumstances, there was an emergency, child got sick. You had to take the child. Mom or wife, girlfriend. So I get it. There are extenuating circumstances. But it seems like every time there's a new coach, I got an uncle and aunt that came back to life. You can't Win like, that's why I'm glad I don't play today. I don't care if the salary. If tight end salary got to 100 million, because I care more about winning and these guys don't. And fans get upset with me. Shannon, how you know? This is how you know.
- [60:52]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah. One thing about it, when you're winning, it's looked over.
- [60:58]
Shannon Sharpe
That's why you don't look over when you losing.
- [61:01]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Everything is magnified. Every mistake. Every mistake. Anything you're doing wrong as a team, as an individual, it's used as a reason on why we're not winning.
- [61:12]
Shannon Sharpe
That's why you don't overlook it when you're winning. Mike Shanahan didn't say, oh, guys, we winning. So you miss weight. Don't worry about it this week. He didn't say, oh, we winning. We don't won 12. We don't want eight in a row. We don't want nine in a row. We this, that. No, no, no, no, no, no. And guys that lead, you can't ask more than you're willing to give. Yeah. How you will ask a player to do something. And you showed up late. Get the F out of my face. You were late. Right? And then you mess around and you blow an assignment, and then you looking around at everybody else and you messed up.
- [61:49]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Mm.
- [61:49]
Shannon Sharpe
Mm. I got. No, that's. Like I said, God put me in the situation. He made me be. Born in 68. Now we. Look, I talked to a lot of the guys, man. You meant my mom couldn't wait another three or four years. Hell, I was my mom's last kid at 25. You could have waited till I was. Till you were 32 and dropped it, right? Hey, no, I want no part of that, Ocho. These guys don't care. They don't care enough. I'm not saying they don't care. They don't care enough.
- [62:19]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Right.
- [62:19]
Shannon Sharpe
Losing don't bother them. You know why? Because you're not invested enough. Anytime. Let me ask you a question, Ocho. If you put your money. If you put your money in something and you lost a million dollars, you're going to be very upset because you know how hard you work for that damn million dollar.
- [62:34]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Absolutely.
- [62:35]
Shannon Sharpe
There you go. That's what I want people to see.
- [62:38]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
- [62:38]
Shannon Sharpe
You know why I care so much? Because I know how much time that I spent in doing this. What I denied myself, how I denied my family, how I did not sleep, eat, just to be this.
- [62:50]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
A lot of sacrifices.
- [62:51]
Shannon Sharpe
It hurt when it doesn't Work out.
- [62:53]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
- [62:56]
Shannon Sharpe
It don't bother people enough. It doesn't. Jags on. Sean Khan said that he'll get rid of GM Trent Balky if a prospective head coach gives Khan a credible reason. With Balky right there. Ocho, you got to watch this. Listen to this. If they were to say, I would like to reevaluate the front office and the general manager, what would your response be?
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Bodi Representative
My response would be, how would you improve it?
- [63:21]
Shannon Sharpe
And.
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Bodi Representative
And then if it is credible, you know, I mean, you.
- [63:27]
Shannon Sharpe
You want to do it.
- [63:28]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Okay.
- [63:30]
Shannon Sharpe
Does he not realize Trent Balky is on the call? The video zoom with it.
- [63:35]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
I don't know. What. I don't know what's wrong with brother Khan, man. I. I have no idea. He has a lot of issues going on. Listen, Balky has his ruin with some of the picks and some of the things that he's brought in. I'm not sure what's wrong with Trevor Lawrence right now. The only shining bright light they have over there in Jacksonville is Brian Thomas Jr. I'm hoping Trevor Lawrence can live up to the hype. The money he's being paid. Any bounces back. The Jaguars don't even have nowhere to play next year. Unk. You know that.
- [64:10]
Shannon Sharpe
Why? What's wrong with that? What's wrong with the stadium they play?
- [64:13]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
I think they're renovating the stadium or something is going on where their new stadium is not going to be ready for two years. Something. Something to that magnitude.
- [64:21]
Shannon Sharpe
But so where they go play at.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
I have no idea. I mean, Orlando's right down the street. Gainesville is right down the street. And there are stadiums that can hold the amount of people that can. That can, you know, see the NFL stadium. But, I mean, I don't think they're a team that's going to sell out if they're going to be. If they're going to be fans in the seats they come to see. Brian Thomas Jr. I can tell you that objectively used to be good. I don't know. Some. Something is wrong with owners. And to be the owners of teams, they don't act like they are owners. Jerry Jones doesn't act like an owner. Mr. Connie doesn't act like he's the owner. You know. Do you know how many coaches he's been through?
- [65:05]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
You know how many coaches, head coaches he's been through? Like. And it starts at the top. And it starts with you. It starts with you. And making better decisions in Balki, too, as a gm, better decision making, I mean. But again, when you're the owner. You can do this.
- [65:26]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Look, I was, I'm old enough to remember when Jacksonville had really good teams, when they had Keenan and they had Smith, Jimmy Smith and they had Natron and they had Brunel and the stadium was packed. Oh yeah, I remember that. So Jacksonville fans will come out.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Well, yeah.
- [65:46]
Shannon Sharpe
If you give them something to come out for.
- [65:48]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
- [65:49]
Shannon Sharpe
Because that's a football town. The closest basketball, I guess is Atlanta or Miami.
- [65:54]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
- [65:55]
Shannon Sharpe
Or you can go down to Orlando. But that's, that's football league. The south is football always. I don't care what anybody tell you. Yeah, it's football. The south is football. And they like, they like college football. Now the Gators, Tallahassee, right up, right up. But it's a football town. And if Jacksonville gave them something, those fans coming out. Because I've seen it, I've seen it every time. But it doesn't, I mean, you keep the general manager who hired the head coach, but you fire the head coach and then if another coach comes in and give you. Okay, I can't work with Balky. I want somebody that I'm, I'm in unison with.
- [66:46]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah. That you can trust.
- [66:49]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [66:49]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Start there. You can trust.
- [66:51]
Shannon Sharpe
And plus I got to get him out of there because you're already too close to the owner. So I got a feeling that you're going to be in his ear and you're going to be putting bull jive in his ear. So I need to get you out of the building. That's first and foremost. That's the first and foremost thing that I'm going to do.
- [67:03]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Bingo.
- [67:05]
Shannon Sharpe
So I need to be in a situation where me and the general manager were like this here. And I can go to the owner if I, if me and you can't agree on something.
- [67:16]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Right.
- [67:16]
Shannon Sharpe
But Trent Balky is already too close because he got a three year relation or two or three year head start in terms of, in the relationship than what I have. And he's already in his ear because that's why he stayed. And Dougie P. Is gone. But nah, I'm good. I, I don't, I don't. But like I said, I, I, I don't know. Look, Trevor Lawrence is going to have to play better than what he's played. They got a great, they got a great look, they got Brian Thomas Jr. They got Evan Ingram, they got Tank and they got atn.
- [67:50]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
- [67:51]
Shannon Sharpe
So they got, they got some nice solid pieces. They got some pieces on defense. I think they need to improve the back end. But they got some, they got some.
- [68:00]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Guys up front, got something to work with. And you, you. Yeah, you would expect, you would expect from what we saw from Trevor Lawrence at Clemson, his growth. He should be growing and getting better year to year. And instead he's regressing. He's regressing. But the emergency of Brian Thomas Jr. Should make his job a little easier. It should make his job a little easier. Let me, let me turn this air off, man. I'm in here free.
- [68:26]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, but they had some, they had some pieces. I mean, Christian Kirk, but I think Kirk got injured. Brian Thomas Jr. Tank Billingsley, I think that's his name. A Bigsby. Tanks. Tank Bigsby. I think Bigsby is his name. You got atn, they got Evan Ingram. Yeah, man, they got, they got some nice pieces on the offensive side. But Trevor Lawrence need to play like the number one overall draft pick. He needs to play like the guy they selected him to beat. He got. He has to be more consistent and he got to stay healthy.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah. Gotta earn that pick. Check, baby.
- [69:07]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. What, what did the Jags pick this year? Is there a corner that's available they need? I think they. Look, it all depends on what they're going to do. They pick five. They pick five. Ocho, what you think? They.
- [69:27]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
And five.
- [69:29]
Shannon Sharpe
If Travis Hunter, then I'm taking Travis Hunter. It's a no brainer, man.
- [69:32]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Travis Hunter ain't gonna be at no 5, man.
- [69:34]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm just saying, just, just if he is.
- [69:36]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Oh, hypothetically speaking. Yeah, yeah, he ain't gonna be there. I think they probably go. Probably go offensive line or defensive line, one or the other.
- [69:49]
Shannon Sharpe
See that? I mean, normally guys have a kid. I think he and his wife just welcomed a baby girl. Guys normally play. Well, look at my home's kid. Philip Rivers kid. Big Ben had kids, you know, guy Peyton Brady had. Hey, Brady rolled a bump. Well, four super bowl as he started having kids. He had three. They want four more.
- [70:10]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Oh, yeah.
- [70:11]
Shannon Sharpe
So, hey, this might be the start of something, Ocho. I don't know. But yeah, the Jazz got to do better than this. They got to give the, they got to give those fans something that they can. They can get their. Sink their teeth in, they can put their arms around and be proud of. Yeah, I ain't talking about Duvall. Cause Duvall swear they going to the super bowl every year, and then Duvall, we on some bull J. But let him tell it. They go, hey, they go with it. They go beat Kansas City. They going to the super bowl every year, right? Duval sound like a, a cowboy fan. He delusional. But you think they take a, you think they take a O line of D line.
- [70:52]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, o, O line of D line. You know, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm trying to think there, there, there are no skill position players. The quarterbacks are going first. Travis Hunter be going before pick five. So I mean there's, there's some good, good O line and D linemen that are out there that are going to go in the early rounds.
- [71:11]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, they, the mock draft have them taking the D lineman out of Michigan.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Oh, see.
- [71:21]
Shannon Sharpe
It is, they probably should have took Hutchinson over the guy that they took Hutch. Remember they had, they had the number one pick and they took the guy out of Georgia. Oh, Trayvon Walker. Of all the, think about all the draft picks that he was all the high draft picks that he was playing around.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Right, right, right, right, right. Trayvon Walker in, he didn't have a bad season, did he?
- [71:46]
Shannon Sharpe
He ain't had no Hutch had seven and a half sacks he got and missed.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Missed. Yeah.
- [71:50]
Shannon Sharpe
12 games.
- [71:51]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, Hutch was ball. I mean Hutch.
- [71:53]
Shannon Sharpe
And he went to, didn't he go to the Pro bowl last year? He went to the Pro bowl last year.
- [71:57]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
That's the real deal, boy. He's real deal. He is worth. He is. As advertised, the volume.
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