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Nightcap Hour 1: Brock Purdy LIGHTS UP Colts + DK Metcalf SUSPENDED 2 Games + John Harbaugh NOT WORRIED about JOB SECURITY
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What a matchup we got, y'.
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Rob Gronkowski
All.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
This is that classic HBCU vibe. Non stop action. The band is rocking and the crowd lit. Chance echo drum beat everybody showing that school pride. Game like this. Yeah, it calls for an ice cold Coca Cola. Ah, crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right there. Yeah, that taste always hits the right note. Just like the band at halftime. And just like that, we're back at it. Passionate fans, school colors everywhere and an.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Ice cold Coca Cola.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's a winning combo no matter the sport, no matter the yard. Everybody knows fan work is thirsty work. So grab a Coca Cola and keep that HBCU pride going.
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Sophie Cunningham
This is Sophie Cunningham from Show Me Something. Do you know the symptoms of moderate to severe obstructive sleep apnea or OSA in adults with obesity? They may be happening to you without you knowing. If anyone has ever said you snored loudly or if you spend your days fighting off excessive tiredness, irritability and concentration issues, it may be due to osa. OSA is a serious condition where your airway partially or completely collapses during sleep, which may cause breathing interruptions and oxygen deprivation. Learn more at. Don't sleep on OSA.com this information is provided by Lilly, a medicine company.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
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Rob Gronkowski
This is Rob Gronkowski from Dudes on Dudes with Gronk and jules. For the second season in a row, I partnered with T Mobile's Friday night 5G lights powering up hometown football across America. This year, T mobile invested over $4 million in prizes to help schools take their Friday nights to to the next level. Now it's time to crown our $1 million grand prize winner. A huge congrats to Derrick's High school in Derrick's, Arkansas, home of the Outlaws and your 2020 5T mobile Friday night 5G lights champion.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
They scored a home field upgrade, Gronk.
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Rob Gronkowski
Fitness weight room, a 2026 tailgate party and and an all expense paid trip to the SEC championship game. To every school that competed, posted and rallied your communities.
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Thank you and a big thanks to.
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Rob Gronkowski
T Mobile for making it all possible and helping communities shine under the Friday night lights. This season may be over, but the story isn't. Stay tuned for season three in 2026.
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Sophie Cunningham
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Y' all gotta be kidding.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It's something you might say when your.
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Rob Gronkowski
Small business has a problem, but that.
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Sophie Cunningham
Won'T get you the help your small business needs. Ba Fam.
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Rob Gronkowski
What you should really say is something that can help.
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Sophie Cunningham
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
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Make sure you mention us, because that supports our podcast. Boy, look what editing can do. The beard is back. It was gone. Now it's back. As y' all can see, I'm in my treehouse. Thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y' all know who I am joining me, my partner and co host, Liberty City's own Bingo's Ring of Fame honoree, a former Pro Bowler and an All Pro, he's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed, wherever you get your podcast from. Ocho and I would like to personally thank each and every one of you for your support and your continued support. None of this is possible without you. When we were at our lowest, especially myself, you picked us up. You gave me a reason to get up and come out here and talk. Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, Saturday, you excuse me, Sunday. And now we're at five days a week. 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Oh, I thought the game was going to be like this considering how it was going because it didn't look like either team could get generated pressure and so they were going up and down the field but you knew a mistake here or there and, and, and the Colts cracked first because the 49ers score kickoff. Boom. Fumble the ball. They go right down and score. Purdy had a perfect night going, threw a ball a little high to Kendrick Bourne, got tipped, got picked off. But you can't complain. Five touchdown passes. It seemed like every time. The only time they got stopped, Ocho, is that yeah, I tried to kick a 64 yard field goal. Other than that they were just off to the races all night long. Philip Rivers didn't look bad Ocho. Hey guys, he didn't look bad Ocho. But look he probably lost about. He was Greg Maddox to begin with. So he was never Roger Clemens or Randy Johnson. He was never one of those guys. He, he definitely not schemed. But it's just hard, Ocho. It's just hard. He has no mobility. He's never been a very mobile guy and now it's all gone and that. He's just a sitting duck. He's just a sitting duck. But I thought he played well. Been away from the game for five years Ocho. And coming back he still got the accuracy. He still can throw the ball. But it just seemed like Ocho he throwing a 10 yard out.
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He like ah. It just all it almost is. It looks as if he throws a ball and he's damn near in pain. It did like you damn near pain. It's like the ball weighs. If the ball is much heavier than what it. Like you're throwing a bowling ball or something like that. But listen, Philip Rivers is very accurate. He looked good tonight. Obviously he's always been a stationary target. You know he'd never been. He's never been a dual threat outside of that. The way the game did start, I thought, I thought it was going to go back and forth. I thought both of them, I thought both teams were going to be able to score at will and it would be a high scoring game. Obviously. I think the 49ers have had a little bit too much firepower for them. They really, the Colts really couldn't keep up. The goddamn 49ers, they look very, very good. This is what they can look like when they're healthy, when the 49ers are healthy, when they're hitting on all cylinders. They got the quarterback back, McCaffrey's healthy. Goddamn Trent Williams is back there. And everything seems to be going well for them right now. And they're in a great position as opposed to how they look early in the season when things weren't going too well and players were out and players were missing. This is really good for them. They're in a good spot.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Their final two games are at home, which is great for them. But when you look at a Mocho, you look at Purdy and you look at this team, obviously they can throw. The question that I have is their defense and not getting. If you don't put pressure on Matthew Stafford, and he gonna light you up. If you don't put pressure on Sam Darnold, he's gonna light you up. That. That's. That's the cause for concern for me. Offensively, I think they can score with anybody. Juwan Jennings playing really well. We gotta see the. How serious the injury is with George Kittle, but they got guys that can make plays. Christian McCaffrey catching it out the backfield, running the ball. Robinson. Brian Robinson Jr. Get spelling him. That's my concern with them, Candy. Look, Philip Rivers ain't going nowhere. He's not. Matthew Stafford really is not mo. None of these guys are really mobile, but you can't leave them that kind of time. And it just. And something else I found very interesting in watching this game. India's not far away. They get great quarterback play with the weapons. They got Taylor running it. You got Pierce, you got Pittman, you got Warren. They got good tight ends. Hey, they're good team, Ocho. And I see. I see why they like. And you can see why they won with Daniel Jones. You can see why. Because this team, they got pieces around him. They just need to get exemplary quarterback play. If they get that now, they're in a tough division. The AFC south is not a cakewalk because you got the Texas in that division and you got the Jags for the foreseeable future because all of them got young quarterbacks. And all of those guys, all those teams got great pieces around those young quarterbacks. But I thought the 49ers looked really, really good tonight outside of, you know, the. The pressure. That's my concern for them. And I. And they got Chicago. 49ers got Chicago next week, and then they finish up with Seattle. Both got at Home. Now, if you don't put pressure on Caleb Williams. Oh, and he's not, he's not stationary.
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He can move now. Not only can he move, he's surgical with that ball now. He's surgical with that ball. He can throw all type of different arm slots. He throwing off his back foot. He's almost, it seemed like he's almost from that, that, that, that school of Aaron Rodgers, Brett Favre, in a sense, because he has so much arm strength. He can do some of the things that you're not supposed to do at the quarterback position. Another, another, another Jordan Love, like in a sense, if you think about it, they do things they, they're not supposed to do when it comes to throwing the ball because their arm strength is so goddamn good.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, the guys that, I mean all the guys that you mentioned, they don't really have his athletic system. No. I mean, Aaron Rodgers was good, but Caleb Williams, Jordan Love is athletic, but he could be a he. I mean, and like you said, Ocho though, his ability to throw on the move. I mean, look at that touchdown.
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Both ways though.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Either both ways. And it's a lot harder for a right handed go left to roll left because you're asking him to open his hips up sometimes and throw back, you know, from, from hash right inwards. You don't really want him going hash back to the middle, but still you have to ask him to open himself sometimes. But this is going to be a very, very good matchup next week when the 49ers take on, take on the Bears. But this game, Ocho, I was, I was impressed with Brock Purdy. He was surgical tonight. Guys made play for him. Juwan Jennings was making plays, Kiddo making plays until he got injured. McCaffrey doing what McCaffrey does, he's a dual threat over 100 yards rushing. He had five or six receptions with two more touchdowns. Guys just made plays and that's what you got to have. This is what you want this time of year. You want guys making plays. Look, the quarterback's not gonna. Jennings made some tough plays. I mean, that Kittle in the end zone, tough play. But I like Jennings. I like. Because if you're in this offense, Ocho, you gotta be able to block. You gotta be able to push people off the path. You gotta be able. Hey, they ain't got no problem. They, they asked those, those w. The wide receivers, hey, we gonna insert you, we want you to motion, go dig somebody out.
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I mean, in that offense. I mean, obviously I never played in the west coast style offense. But in that offense, not only do you have to catch balls, you got to be willing to block.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, yeah, no block.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
No ball, no ball. Yeah, yeah. I, I wouldn't, I wouldn't have fared too well in that, that offense there.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, yeah, you would. Cause you want to catch the ball, so you go block. Coach, you see that? Coach, you see that? And then. Cause if you don't, then they put that thing in. We come in, in the big game together and they put that thing on the board and then you go loafing. Did everybody.
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Hey, look, hey, look. Looking right, looking right back at you. Yeah, one thing about it, boy, I'm not gonna loaf on that fold on that field. I might not block you, but I will run your ass off that damn near 30 yards.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, but that's what, that's what you have. Look, hey, as long as your guy doesn't make the play, you got to make. You got to make him a chaser and not a pursuer. As long as you making him chase. Oo, like Rerun was tracing that truck.
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The ice cream truck.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, no, he, he got left. Raj. Raj and what's the earnest other one? Name. Yeah, they were already on the truck. Re. Rerun was chasing it. See, he's a chaser. Cops pursue. So that's what you know. When you want to chase her, you don't want to pursue her because eventually he gonna cut you off at the angle. But I thought the 49ers played really well. They look really, really good. My own, the concerns and I, I don't know, Chad, what you think about it is that you got to be able to generate pressure. You can't let that quarterback, I mean, Philip Real was back there. Think about what he had last. Ocho, he was throwing the ball like one, like less than two yards per attempt. Tonight he brought the ball down the field.
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I think the play calling obviously is predicated to knowing that he's been off for so much time. So we going, we going, we going to slowly bring him into the offense, slowly allow him to make those throws down the field. And he looked good doing it. He looked good. He looked very, very good doing it. And it just, it looked like the goddamn ball is so heavy to fill up, man. It looked like the ball is heavy.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
As hell, but like you shot with.
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Him, but still, man, to be the B40.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But also. Ocho, you remember now Seattle's front four generate pressure.
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So we gotta get the ball, get out of there quick.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Kendrick Born needed one receiving yard to earn a $500,000 bonus. He secured that in the first half tonight, finishing the game with three catches for 27 yards. The 49ers get their 11th win on the season. Brock Purdy now is the first quarterback to throw five touchdown passes on a Monday night. Considering Joe played a lot of games on Monday night, Steve played a lot of games on Monday night. And you talk about two first ballot hall of Famers, two league MVPs, two Super Bowl MVPs, and you've done something that they've never done, you know, you, you and you. And that's pretty good. You did pretty good for you. For the last player to be selected, Mr. Irrelevant, he's become very relevant now.
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That's. That's an amazing story, too. And at some point when his career is over, that story needs to be told in. In. In docu series format. But to go from Mr. Irrelevant to the quarterback of the. Of the 49ers, where everybody doubt is you going into the draft and to come back if in. In. And if they're able to win a Super bowl with him at the helm, man, listen, that's. That's a Disney movie type fairy tale. That's a Disney movie type fairy tale. If he's able to pull that off with the 49ers.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
How about this here? Oo the 49ers, Thomas Mor Morad waiting his turn to play. The 49ers have not punted the football in December, but he collected free money. He collected free money, Ocho.
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Yeah, it's either. Either two things. Either he chilling and he's okay, or he's pissed off. Yeah. One of the feelings.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He chilling because he was. Because you saw him on the sideline and I wonder why they just kept showing on him. He like, I'm just working on my drop just in case I'm needed. Cause all he's doing, because, you know, pointers, they hold for the kicker, so that's the only thing. His knee might be sore from. Being down on one knee holding the ball for the kicker. But what a matchup we got, y'. All. This is that classic HBCU vibe. Non stop action. The band is rocking and the crowd lit. Chance echo drum beat. Everybody showing that school pride. Game like this, yeah, it calls for an ice cold Coca Cola. Ah, Crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right there.
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Mmm.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, that taste always hits the right note. Just like the band at halftime. And just like that, we're back at it. Passionate fans, school colors everywhere, and an.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Ice cold Coca Cola.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's a winning combo no matter the sport, no matter the yard. Everybody, everybody knows fan work is thirsty work. So grab a Coca Cola and keep that HBCU pride going.
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Rob Gronkowski
You know what separates the pros from the rest? It's not just talent, it's how you respond when the game gets tough. You dig in. You fight back. And when it comes to your health, that same mindset matters. Yeah, especially if you or someone you care about is facing metastatic prostate cancer. There's a treatment called pluvicto lutetium LU177 vapivotide tetraxitan and it's changing the game. Plavicto isn't chemo. It's a different kind of treatment that.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Targets PSMA positive cells, including prostate cancer cells.
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Rob Gronkowski
Plovicto can be used before chemotherapy for some people. Here's the official word. Pluvicto is a prescription treatment used to treat adults with prostate specific membrane antigen positive metastatic castration resistant prostate cancer or PSMA positive MCRPC who have already been treated with hormone therapy and are considered appropriate to delay chemotherapy. Now let's talk safety. Pluvicto involves contact with radioactivity, which may increase the risk for cancer and cause fetal harm. Drink plenty of fluids, urinate often, use contraception and talk to your doctor about how to reduce the risk of exposing others to radiation during and after treatment.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It can also cause low blood cell.
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Rob Gronkowski
Counts, kidney problems and infertility.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Tell your doctor if you notice weakness.
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Rob Gronkowski
Pale skin, shortness of breath, bleeding or.
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Bruising more easily an infection or changes in urination.
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Rob Gronkowski
Side effects include decreased blood cell counts, tiredness, dry mouth, nausea, appetite loss, joint or back pain and constipation. Look, every day matters, and if you're in the fight or know someone who is, this is a conversation worth having.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ask your doctor about Plavicto because just.
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Rob Gronkowski
Like in football, every play, every decision, every second counts. Visit pluvicto.com to learn more. That's P L U V I c t o.com Season 2 of unrivaled basketball.
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Sophie Cunningham
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Rob Gronkowski
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Sophie Cunningham
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No the NFC West Ocho, you think the NFC west is the most stacked?
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, not. Not. Not even close. Not even close because not not only are they stacked all of the teams over there, not only are they stacked offensively, hell, they can get after you on defense too. They can get out. They can get after you on defense too. So they. You know what? Most of the time, based on how the season is going, you can. You can kind of tell there's certain teams that just dominate. And you knew who was going. When it came to last year and we were watching football in the nfc, it was the Philadelphia Eagles. It was. It was. It was clear as. It was clear as day when it came to the afc. God damn it. They might they might have sucked at the beginning of the season, but as the season went on and it tapered down towards the end, you know what? Damn afc, it's gonna be the Kansas City Chiefs. And who ended up making it to the super bowl this year? Ain't no telling. Especially they got damn nfc. Ain't no telling who coming up out of there.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, I would put. I wouldn't lay any money on the Eagles coming up out of there, that's for damn sure. I'm not laying any money on them. Yes, when you look at the NFC west, you got what? You got what, three teams with at least 11 wins.
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Seattle Rams. But who's the third? Niners.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And prior to the collapse of Green Bay and Detroit, they were neck and neck because, you know, everybody was right there. Chicago, Green Bay, Detroit. And then all of a sudden, you know, the, the. As the injury started mile for Green Bay, Detroit defensively had some. Had some problems, but yeah, the NFC west is that. And I believe they're going to get all three of those teams out of that division. All three of those. Obviously, somebody's got to win the division, Ocho, but I believe two teams are going to make the wild card and somebody's going to be. And somebody. Carolina going to have to put Carolina. Tampa is going to have to face an 11, 11, 12, 13 win team.
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You know what? And that's. That's a good thing. Despite what they did during the regular season, when it gets to that playoffs, it's only one game.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, all three of them have officially clinched now. Oo. All three teams in the NFC West, Seattle, San Fran and the Rams, all three have all clinched the playoffs. Now we just got to see, okay, one of them's going to be the 1 seed. I mean, excuse me. Possibly. Yeah, one's gonna be the 1 seed. Chicago still could. I think Chicago still could. Chicago ash be the one seed. But think about it. You're gonna have possibly a 13 win, 2, 13 win team. Oo. And they're gonna be the 5 and 6 seeds. So 3 and 4, y' all got y' all work cut out for you.
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Absolutely.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Because right now Seattle is the number one seed. The Bears are number two, Eagles three, Carolina four, San Fran is five, Rams is six, Green Bay is seventh Right now, Detroit's on the outside looking in. Meanwhile, the Colts are mathematically eliminated. But their playoffs. They aren't mathematically eliminated, Ocho. They started seven and started seven and one and now have lost five in a row.
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They was rocking there. They was rocking and rolling Yesterday, quarterback got hurt. Yeah, you can have it. Go. You can have it.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right now, the Broncos are the number one seed, 12 and three, followed by the Patriots, the number two seed, 12 and three. Jacksonville, number three seed, 11 and four. Pittsburgh, the number four seed, nine and six. And if. If the Chargers went out and the Broncos lose one of their last two games, they win the division as a breakover because they would have swept the Broncos. Right now, the Bills, 11 and 4, they're in the 6 seed. The Texans are 10 and 5. So all the Texans win one more game and, well, Tech, I guess the Texans still theoretically could win the division if they win. If they went out and what you call them, lose out, I guess. Yeah. Other than that, Baltimore right now is the eight night seed. The Baltimore bought the Ravens in order for them to make the playoffs or. Joe, they would have to win out and the Steelers would have to lose the.
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The next two.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They would have to win. Yeah, win their next two, and then old Pittsburgh lose their.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
That's one of the worst situations to be in. That's one of the worst situations to be in to. To. To have two games left and. And be relying on another team and lose their games when you. You could handle your business yourself where you didn't have to worry about anybody else in the outcome of their games. But I mean, it. It is what it is. It is what it is. I. I guess your team gonna be right there with us in Cancun.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What are you talking about?
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Oh, your team, the Ravens. That's your team winning, ain't it?
- [29:08]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, you.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Oh, wait. Wait a minute. Are we not claiming them today? Which one?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I thought you said. I only had a cup of coffee there.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Okay, I'm just making sure. I'm just making sure. Hey, where you at, man? Look like you in the attic somewhere, you know?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, you know what I'm saying? I'm in a tree house.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
You in the treehouse.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
For real.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
You know, it looked like an attic. For real. Okay, that's. Hey, that's. Hey, that's dope. Okay, I see you. I see you. Hey, hey, one thing about it. But you can't have money, boy. But you can't have money, boy.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Bad Opal. I just tried to make it. Don't y' all just try to survive.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Making one thing about it? You made it. You made it. Because I've never seen.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, you know I do.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Hey, listen, I've never seen the attic like that where it looks modern with that type of lighting, with that type of setting. I Mean, it just.
- [30:02]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We break. You do know Jordan Brain.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
But it just screams money. That's all.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's all it screams that. You know, I have someone that cares. It takes everything. You have the setup. That's what it screams. Your scream. I'm too cheap. I would sit this issue up myself. That's what yours scream.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Oh, wait a minute, wait a minute.
- [30:21]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
My scream. I have a deployee that does that. Yours scream. Like I'm doing this.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
But see, this is the thing.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
It looks plain right now, but when we get to we in December, right now. Yeah, I have a. I'm. I'm getting a makeover strictly. Strictly for nightcap in general. My lighting, my trophy, my awards. So the background is gonna be completely different. You'll see. You'll see.
- [30:46]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
I'm putting my money back into. And invested in. Into the appearance of nightcap in general. So it won't look like this very much. Often. Yeah. Much longer. I'm sorry. Much longer.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, but. But I'm saying don't y'. All. I don't know why you being cheap Won't hide nobody.
- [31:06]
Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
I don't think about this. Who am I gonna hire that's gonna travel with me everywhere I'm going?
- [31:14]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You just gotta find somebody. I was very fortunate. I found somebody that didn't have any pets.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
He.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He's young, he's not married. And. And, hey, he ready to go, boss. Where we off to next?
- [31:24]
Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Hey, hey, you think somebody will do that though? For real?
- [31:28]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. I mean, they get benefits. They get end of year bonuses.
- [31:35]
Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Yes, they get who Benefits? What kind of benefits? Like. Like dental.
- [31:41]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Dental and health insurance. The hell?
- [31:43]
Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Okay. I don't know, Unc, man, because. Hold on. I gotta buy these flights too. Yes, See, see, basically you telling me just incorporate yourself.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ocho, you got to be.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
I am.
- [31:56]
Rob Gronkowski
Yeah.
- [31:57]
Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
I got to be. Okay. Also, all that. All that TAs within.
- [32:02]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes, yes. Operate. That's the operation. Operation.
- [32:05]
Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Why you ain't tell me? See, not. Not that I know that. I know that part. Now, how do I go about finding someone to actually fill that position, a role that can travel with me everywhere I go? And we can. We can.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Well, if you have. The thing is, Ojo, you got to have somebody.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
See, now that's the problem.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You. You got to get paperwork, paperwork, paperwork. Because everything that. Everything. They're going to hear things, they're going to see things, they're going to be places. And that's got to be confident that goes no further.
- [32:35]
Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Oh, hey, see, I can't I can't. Hey. Hey, well that, that's. That's different right there, boy. Hey, because they, they go place with me, you know, I just. Hey.
- [32:46]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But like I said, you know, Jordan was willing to travel. Jordan, you know, Jordan was from Cincinnati.
- [32:53]
Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Oh yeah.
- [32:56]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey. And I told him, I said, bro, I got a job. I said, but you can't working from there. So I, I pay. I gave him move here. I moved him here. I paid. I paid six months on his rent. I paid a year membership and gave him a game relocation fee. Damn. Cause I knew I wasn't gonna find. I wasn't gonna find. I wasn't gonna find anybody that had everything that Jordan had. He's young, he's energetic, he's enthusiastic, he's willing to learn. He's very technologically savvy. Savvy. He's willing to. Hey, we gotta go somewhere in the morning. Hey, you gotta go there. Yes. And I knew I was not gonna be able to find someone that have every. That checked every box. No pets, not married, willing to leave all. Hey. All you got. Hey, as long as that place got pasta in the gym.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Good.
- [33:48]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, Joel. We got to go to hell tomorrow, boss.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Hey, you know what? So I'm do my homework because that. That would be dope. Matter of fact, going into 2026, I should have someone that. That travels with me, does everything I do that is tech savvy. You know that as. As right now, I probably wouldn't haven't having any problems with my goddamn camera equipment right now. Listen, the past 1, 2, 3. The past three shows, if you haven't noticed, I've been using my goddamn laptop camera, you know, because. But the lighting is pretty good, so you probably can't tell, but it just. The quality of just. It just ain't what it should be. It ain't what it should be. So I think I'm gonna do my homework. I don't know how to go about finding someone. Like, do I gotta have. I gotta have auditions like dressing.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. You just put just what you need. You need somebody that fit in this, this age group. You need somebody that can't have pets, they can't be married, and they have to be willing to travel.
- [34:51]
Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Yeah. Hey, that one thing about it. Boy, they be. They better be ready to get on the road now.
- [34:56]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's it. That's it. And so I haven't. I. I don't think I've gone anywhere in the last two years. That Jordan, I go home Jordan going too.
- [35:09]
Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
I like that I like that.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Unless we're like, we. When we get off now, hey, when he get off, you go, hey, you got these three weeks. You go do your thing, your day. You ain't got to check in. You ain't got a call. Hey, yeah, hey.
- [35:20]
Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
It seemed like a t. It seemed like a tedious process, honestly. I mean, when you think about it, you know, in its entirety, it is. It seems, you know, somewhat complex. But I'm assuming once. Once you get going, once you find that rhythm and groove, then it. It probably. Probably, you know, it soothes itself out. It's probably a. A self. A self running, you know, system that you guys have going.
- [35:41]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But because I. Because I don't, you know, because he take. He take the keys. Like, hey, he come sit up. I might not be here. He'll come sit up. So when I come in, all I do is sit down and get in front of. And get in front of the camera and. And we're off to go Club Sh. Shay. Hey. He might have to help them do certain things, but he's getting the pictures, all the pictures that you see from different angles. That's what he's doing behind the scenes. If I go somewhere, stuff that we shoot behind the scenes and stuff like that, that's his. That's his responsibility. So the social media aspect of it, of. Of. Of the pictures and stuff like that, he handles that. But, you know, we have a social media team that he feed the photos to. They spit it out.
- [36:17]
Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Damn. Hey, hold on. That's right.
- [36:19]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We.
- [36:19]
Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
We gotta hope we got a whole social media team, too.
- [36:22]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We absolutely got a whole social media team. Graphic editors, producers. Ash is the number one lieutenant now.
- [36:29]
Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
She. She.
- [36:30]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
She got a lot on her plate. She has a lot on her plate. She knows she has a lot of responsibility. She was my first hire, her and cj. But I told her, I said. I remember she used to be. She used to be my line producer. And I told her, I said, if I ever. If I ever left here, you coming with me. She like, okay, hey, she. She was a. And when I was leaving, she's like, you still gonna bring me with you? I'm like, I don't know what I'm gonna do, Ash. But. Yeah, yeah.
- [36:55]
Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Hey, I don't. Listen.
- [36:56]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, she went. She. I left. I think I left on a. That Friday. That Thursday, actually. I sure hope you got something lined up.
- [37:07]
Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Listen, I don't. I don't know everybody by name, but I know one thing. I got them Graphic team, that's in the business. I don't care. I don't care. Everybody asked me, boy, who the hell do y' all graphics? Who come? Who's the creative mind behind that? And I say, listen, I don't know that. I don't know him by name, but anytime you got something coming up, well, I can't wait to see it. I can't wait to see it. They hell. They. They hell, bro.
- [37:31]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Our graphics, our social media, all that stuff. Yeah. Nikki, Brandon Bailey, and Stevie.
- [37:39]
Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Nikki, Brandon Bailey, Stevie. Boy, I salute y', all, man. Hell of a goddamn job.
- [37:45]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They do a great job. They do a great job. Ash did a great job of finding. Hey, we. I don't know where Ash final, but I know we found Nikki on social media. She was always tweeting some clever. I say, well, you want a job? You got so much. Hey, we got another guy social off social media.
- [38:06]
Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Well, hell, it shouldn't be that hard for me. Then I should be able to grab somebody who can. Who can what? Move to Miami.
- [38:10]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But you got to have people that want to work. Ocho, this is a look we got. We got people spitting out clips at. And there are a lot of these people on the east coast, on the West Coast. So they spit out clips at 6am so what time is that on the West Coast? That's 3am yes. They're working through the night, Ocho, they got to get stuff edited, because when it comes out, boom. We spitting out stuff at 6am 9am, 12pm, 3. The social media Nick is doing. Nick is up all trying to come up with creative stuff. Absolutely. They work. They. But they understand if. Look, I don't have no problem compensating you. I have no problem with giving performance bonuses, but we gotta work. This ain't for everybody. This ain't. You getting into this. We're gonna be working holidays. If you don't want to work holidays, this ain't right.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Right, right.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
This ain't a job for you. I'm telling you right now. There ain't no. Well, you know, something came up. Yep. And somebody else came up to get your job. So birthdays, weekends, you know, ain't no days off, huh? Well, look, we. We got Tuesday, Wednesday off this week. We at back at it Thursday, which is a holiday, which is Christmas.
- [39:25]
Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Oh, we. Are we on Christmas?
- [39:28]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, we got big up three games.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
I like that. I like that. I like that. I'm glad. I'm glad. I'm glad.
- [39:35]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But they. But they. They understand. We. I. Ash has done a great job. I let. Look, I let all my. I let all the lieutenants handle what they do. C.J. handled what he handled at Club Shay. Shay. Ash handles what she handles here at Nightcap. Debo and Joe, that's Ash responsibility. She does the hire. She's like, look, I'm thinking about doing this. I was like, okay, okay. Make it work. Make it work.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
That's dope. I. I got it. I got. I got it. I got to do that. I gotta try it.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You know, real. We got. You know, we got sales. Yeah, we got. We got a full fledged operational.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
I gotta do that. I gotta do that.
- [40:10]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
DK Metcalf has been suspended two games without pay by the NFL for conduct detrimental to the NFL for initiating physical. Physical confrontation with a fan. According to the NFL release, DK actions violate league policy. And that specifies player may not enter the stands or otherwise confront fans at any time on game day. And if a players make unnecessary physical contact with a fan in any way that constitute unsportsmanlike conduct or presents crowd controlled issues and. Or with risk of injury, he will be held accountable. DK plans to appeal the suspension according to Adam Schefter Ocho. And if the suspension. If the suspension stands, what a matchup we got, y'. All. This is that classic HBCU vibe. Non stop action. The band is rocking and the crowd lit. Chance echo drum beat. Everybody showing that school pride. Game like this. Yeah, it calls for an ice cold Coca Cola. Ah, Crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right there.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Mmm.
- [41:14]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, that taste always hits the right note. Just like the band at halftime. And just like that, we're back at it. Passionate fans, school colors everywhere. And in ice cold Coca Cola. That's a winning combo no matter the sport, no matter the yard. Everybody knows fan work is thirsty work. So grab a Coca Cola and keep that HBCU pride going.
- [41:38]
Rob Gronkowski
You know what separates the pros from the rest? It's not just talent. It's how you respond when the game gets tough. Do you dig in? You fight back. And when it comes to your health, that same mindset matters. Yeah, especially if you or someone you care about is facing metastatic prostate cancer. There's a treatment called pluvicto, lutetium, LU177, vapivitide, tetraxitan. And it's changing the game. Plavicto isn't chemo. It's a different kind of treatment that.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Targets PSMA positive cells, including prostate cancer cells.
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Rob Gronkowski
Plavicto can be used before chemotherapy for some people. Here's the official word. Pluvicto is a prescription treatment used to treat adults with prostate specific membrane antigen positive metastatic castration resistant prostate cancer or psma positive MCRPC who have already been treated with hormone therapy and are considered appropriate to delay chemotherapy. Now let's talk safety. Pluvicto involves contact with radioactivity, which may increase the risk for cancer and cause fetal harm. Drink plenty of fluids, urinate often, use contraception and talk to your doctor about how to reduce the risk of exposing others to radiation during and after treatment.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It can also cause low blood cell.
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Rob Gronkowski
Counts, kidney problems and infertility.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Tell your doctor if you notice weakness.
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Rob Gronkowski
Pale skin, shortness of breath, bleeding or.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Bruising, more easily an infection or changes in urination.
- [43:09]
Rob Gronkowski
Side effects include decreased blood cell counts, tiredness, dry mouth, nausea, appetite loss, joint or back pain and constipation. Look, every day matters and if you're in the fight or know someone who is, this is a conversation worth having.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ask your doctor about Plavicto because just.
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Rob Gronkowski
Like in football, every play, every decision, every second counts. Visit pluvicto.com to learn more. That's P L U V I c t o.com Season 2 of unrivaled basketball.
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Sophie Cunningham
Is here and the talent is unreal. The best women's players on the planet are running it back with even bigger moments and bigger stakes. Don't miss as Paige Becker, Snafeeza Collier, Kelsey Plumb, Brianna Stewart and more. Take the court and redefine the game. This isn't your regular season. This is unrivaled where the pace is faster, the energy is higher and every athlete shines. Unrivaled basketball Season 2, sponsored by Samsung on Galaxy, tips off January 5 on TNT, TruTV and HBO.
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Rob Gronkowski
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Sophie Cunningham
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Will forfeit $555,556 in two games, but here's the most important issue. If the suspension holds, he voids 40 million in future guaranteed money. Wait, bring that the gentleman that he confronted, Ryan Kennedy, the Detroit Lions fan involved in the altercation, denied he used a racial slur, misogynistic or hate based language during the incident, according to the statement released by Michigan law firm. According to Tom Pelissero, DK had a history with this Lions fan he confronted Sunday. Make Metcalf reported the same fans to Seahawks security last season while playing with Seattle. Also worth noting, when DK joined the Steelers, he told a radio play by play broadcaster that he preferred to be called De Quillen but goes by DK because it's easier to pronounce. I think I read somewhere now, I'm not sure, don't quote me on this and don't hold me, but I think he reported. He might have reported it to security, Steeler Security, I don't. I don't know. But this is what we know. What he reportedly alleged, what he's allegedly told you, what he allegedly reported. I think James Harrison and what this gentleman, it does not. There has to be someone, there has to be someone that was in that vicinity that heard the back and forth between the two.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
There has to be. And obviously there was audio that came out today. Audio that's not clear, audio that does not state what was said or exchanged between those two. The audio that you do hear, the people that for one, the people that are literally sitting next to holding the camera, listen, he has no reason to lie. He has no reason to lie. In what I don't do. I do not condone putting your hands on the fan. I don't. I don't condone that. That's absolutely. That.
- [47:57]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
No matter what they say, you know, no matter what they say, you should not touch a fan. Now, going back and having a verbal altercation now, that's okay, you know, a little trash talk back and forth, Ain't nothing wrong with that. But I don't condone putting your hands on the fan, but there's certain people that you can tell them how to react based on what you say to them. I know. Listen, it's freedom of speech. You can say what you want to say, but. But also with that, you can control what people do if they choose to do something depending on what you say. And that. That's.
- [48:30]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
That's what I said yesterday. I said yesterday that NFL some. This. They gonna come down now.
- [48:36]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, they. Yeah, I said. Oh, he.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
I thought. I thought it been a $50,000 fine. I thought it been a 50,000.
- [48:43]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, no, it was never gonna be.
- [48:44]
Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
50, but I mean, hey, listen, it is. It's. It's. Ah, man, it sucks. It sucks for the Lions. For the Lions, for their fans in general. Just. Just for this thing to even be on them for that, you know, for this even. Even happen. They have so many. So many good things going on already for them for DK. You know, DK's been in. DK's been a hothead. Not really with the fans, but. But. But on. On the field in general.
- [49:09]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
On the field. Grab face mask, got unsports like conduct penalties. Yeah.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
So I mean, for him, I mean, it sucks as well. The. The. The. The whole 40 million guaranteed that being voided based on whatever it may be. I'm not sure how that even implies or. Or, or. Or. Or. Or it's even part of the situation in general. So you would probably have to explain that for me a little bit more in depth how that would even affect. Affect this in general.
- [49:35]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Any suspension triggers a board of. The board of guaranteed money.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Well, that. That's.
- [49:41]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
If league suspension or team. That.
- [49:44]
Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
That's it. It triggers it. But the team itself would have to. They. They can. They can. They can pull back from that if they want to, though.
- [49:54]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay.
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Sophie Cunningham
Okay.
- [49:55]
Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Okay. Okay. But he ain't got nothing to worry about then. He ain't got nothing to worry about. They. They wouldn't be nasty like that. They wouldn't be nasty like that.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I don't know, man, I don't know. Team, too, too many teams. That's, that's really, really give 40 million. But I agree with you. Yeah, I agree. I, I, I, I totally agree. I just think the thing is, is that now players, you see what, and you have to be careful now we're in a, we're in a sue happy time players. Somebody says something that you deem inappropriate, go get NFL security and have that person removed. In the process of having that person removed, they're probably going to leave loot their. If that's their tickets, those season tickets, they're probably going to lose those. And if whose ever seats they're in, they're gonna lose those because they're responsible for whomever sits in that. So that's, that's the, because you see that with basketball.
- [50:43]
Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Oh yeah.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You guys ain't going back and forth, all that trash talking. That is. Hey, come here. Come here, right here.
- [50:48]
Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Hey. But, but I, I don't like. See, I, you, you're different. Well, you, you know, you know, I love the talk. I, I love, I love a healthy exchange of pleasantries. You know, I don't know what it is with this era, but our era. I like going to play in Baltimore. I like going to play the Steelers. I like playing away. I like playing in chaotic, hostile environments. I enjoy the altercations back and forth. I love the exchanges of pleasantries with fans who are not part of the Bengals. Like, I like that. That's fun for me. There's really nothing you can say. They get me angry. Because before I get angry, I'm gonna tell you, ugly ass, I love you anyway. And we gonna keep going back and forth. We can go back, back and forth all goddamn game. So I don't understand what it is about players from this era in a sense where what fans say actually should. It shouldn't bother you. Like, have fun with it, enjoy it. Banter back and forth. No matter what they said, they say something crazy. You say something crazy back. In just words. In just words. That's the way I look at it now. Everybody doesn't react the same.
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Rob Gronkowski
No.
- [51:53]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They could probably say something. They probably say something about your mom or your grandma that's gonna make. That's not this word, man. I meant my mama.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Whoop your ass. See what you talking about?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So I think the thing, but here's the thing, Ocho. You see, you got to be careful when you go back and forth because if you get the best of them, then all of a sudden that trigger word they Start saying okay. Because my grandpa used to always say, boy, he say if you give the devil a ride long enough, eventually he gonna drive the car, man.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Don't stop right there.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hold on.
- [52:21]
Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Hold on. Hey, boy. Hey, you think you slick? I got my pin right here. Now, you pull that one out of nowhere. Now you put my kids in the table. Took my goddamn notebook, man. I'm gonna put it in my notes. Hold on.
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Sophie Cunningham
Hey.
- [52:35]
Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Oh, boy, that was a good one, boy.
- [52:37]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
God damn, that was a good one. Hold on.
- [52:39]
Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Bring that to me one more time.
- [52:41]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, you give the devil a ride long enough, eventually he'll drive.
- [52:45]
Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Oh, my God.
- [52:46]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Then what? You just have to be careful. Hey.
- [52:56]
Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Oh.
- [52:57]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Even when even us. Oh, your old teammates and stuff, you gotta be. You know, we going back and forth. Eventually somebody go, hey, you start getting the best. And then somebody start taking it personal. And then they go, you know what? Don't even worry about it, bro. It ain't. Hey, before. Before a. Before I say something or you say something, let's go ahead and end it. And that's how you. And that's how you have. That's how you have to deal with it. Hold up. The Kalin Decaylin, Metcalf. So DK is just easier. Yeah. But I think his mama called. Probably call it Michaela. Look, I had it. I. I said. I tweeted something about, as a matter of fact, he was playing the Steelers, and he had an opportunity to get out of bounds. He kept it up inside, and clock went off. And I was like, you know, dk, that. That. And that situation is more important to get out of bounds than you getting a few extra yards. And he didn't take Cali. What I said. But when I. When I sat down and had a conference and interviewed him, and I said I was explaining what I was trying to do. Dk. I mean, no harm by it, bro, but I was just saying you have to understand the situation. There's a time and a place to get extra yards. And I felt in that situation, that wasn't the time nor the situation for you to get extra yards. The most important thing was time on the clock, and you burnt some time off the clock. And I felt in that moment, you were being selfish. Once I explained. And he's like, okay, I appreciate that. And, you know, we kind of stay in contact. You know, he's like, whichever. What you think. X, Y, and Z things of that nature. But I think. I think he's a great kid, and I think he's a great. I. I do And. And sometimes when the motion is high, logic is low, but moving forward all. I'm not talking to all NFL players. If a fan says something you deem is inappropriate, just call NFL security and get their ass removed. I don't care if it's a child. I don't care if it's a woman. I don't care what it is.
- [54:51]
Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Get them removed or fellow NFL players. Get your roast game up. Get your joke game up. Listen, go out there and exchange pleasantries with these. With these fans at away games. Have some fun with.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, but that ain't. But Ocho, that's not everybody. That's not every. You and I are quick with it. You know, I'm. Hey, boom, boom, boom. Yeah, I'm firing off. I'm. I'm disowning. If you go to an hbcu, you got to be able to cause you a nothing to walk in that student center with some bull jive on or.
- [55:24]
Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
You'Re gonna get away with it.
- [55:25]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And yeah, so Jonan is. Is my. I'm an expert at Joni. Yeah, but everybody ain't like that. Yeah, and everybody don't play like that. Okay? What is joke to you is death to someone else. So you have to be careful because everybody don't joke. Everybody what you find funny, don't find it funny. So you have to. But you know, sometimes fan trolls and rage baiters or whatever they want to call them, they. They go to the game just to get that. And in situation, the mere fact that he have a law firm, you know, there's probably going to be a simple suit. But hey, but you just. I just. If I could. If I could give DK any advice or any player that could potentially find themselves in that situation, just have security. I got it.
- [56:15]
Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
But hey, hey, I mean, all us. All us got that quick wit, though, that. That's. That's just. That's just a part of us in general, like tell. Think about telling jokes. You got to. You got to be on your P's and Q's. You got to.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But. But everybody. Ocho, that's just like. Everybody can't sing. Everybody can't dance. Everybody can't lead devotional service. Everybody can't pray. Sometimes you have to me. Oh, what's up? That's. What if that. Yeah, I'm ready. Come on now. Oh, I keep the fact I got a thousand jokes on me. I ain't used but 12 of them. So I got 988 to tear your ass up with it. So. But that's me and I know what's going to happen because here's the thing. This is what happens if somebody getting on somebody, they don't get mad at the person roasting them. They get mad at the people laughing. Oh, what you laughing at? Oh, it's funny. Oh, now you Maddie, he the one that.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Mm.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But that's how it is. And so look, fellow NFLers moving forward, this is the way you handle that situation. Keep your money. John Harbaugh say he's not worried about his job security John Harbaugh said, I try to do the job, not try to keep the job. My focus has always been over the last 18 years here, in the last 41 years in coaching, has always tried to do the best job I can today and fight as hard as I can so the guys have the best chance to be successful today. And anything after today, I'm not thinking about that because it's not given to us to think about. We don't have control over that. Except, except for the job we do today. And if we do a good enough job today, then the opportunity to do that job or a different job will be there tomorrow. And that's what you hope for at the end of the season. As the betting favorites to win the Super bowl, the 7 and 8 Ravens can be eliminated from playoff contention this weekend if the Ravens lose at the packers or or on Saturday or the Steelers win at the Browns on Sunday. Harbor claim under scrutiny for the lack of care is given running back Derrick Henry in the Sunday's fourth quarter and another blown fourth quarter lead Sunday loss marked up Baltimore sixth time since 2019, leading by double digits in the fourth quarter, which is tied with the Chicago Bears for the most during that span. Baltimore also recorded its sixth loss at home, which is the most in a single season in franchise history.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Hey, listen, the beginning, the beginning of that statement was a bar. I'm not sure if you meant to say it like that. Say, say, say, say the first thing he said.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He said, I try to do the job, not try to keep my focus right there. Yeah, I try to do the job. That's a bar.
- [58:56]
Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Hey, that, that, that was a bar right there. I mean, it's, it's unfortunate. Listen, as the head coach, you try to do everything you can to actually reach that Lombardi. You do everything you can to try to get there. They've been very close, but they've gotten to the playoffs. Unfortunate things happen, unfortunate circumstances, whether it be turnovers, whether it be injuries and just everything. So many different things have to Go right. You know, in some, in some way shape form or fashion is winning a chip is a little bit of luck and playing extremely well at the right time. Some things have to go your way. It just, it's just tough and I hate that. I hate the fact that the conversations now and the rumblings are coming from somewhere because they're not winning.
- [59:41]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And they.
- [59:41]
Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Don'T look the same as they, they did before or, and as you, as you say they're, they're not close say how you say it. They're not closer. They're further away they further away now than they were before. You know, maybe it's time they hear from someone new your new voice.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I think the thing the pro. Go ahead.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
I was just gonna say I don't, I just, I just don't think.
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Sophie Cunningham
I.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
I, I hate a situation with Jim Harbaugh. He leaves and someone else comes in. It, it almost reminds me someone else is going to come in and that's going to be just the time, the right, the right amount of time where the team is they right there even though they had a bad season. It's gonna be one of those situations like Mark Jackson leaving the warriors and then Steve Kerr comes in and goddamn look, look what happened. They win it and now he, you know, the new person gets all the goddamn credit when they right there on the verge. They right on the verge.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I think the thing, I think when you look at it, Ocho, Derrick Henry, he gives them the lead and he doesn't come back in the game.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
This was after the fumble though, huh?
- [60:47]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He scored a touchdown after the fumble. So you got a 10 point lead. 2414. And you mean to tell me. Well we on the rotation. So you mean to tell me if Braun cooking. Kobe, rest his soul, cooking. Curry cooking. Jordan cooking. You know what? He on a menace restriction. Let's take him out. If I got a horse, if I got Randy Johnson and here's the, and the eighth in the eighth inning and he's still throwing 98, 100. He going back in to close this. If I got Paul schemes and he dealing, he closing this. I got Pedro.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
He, Pedro Martinez.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Come on now.
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Sophie Cunningham
Man.
- [61:36]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Come on. That's Derek. I get it. And Keith Mitchell. I played with his dad.
- [61:41]
Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Oh yeah. Keith played with me and in Cincinnati, huh. Play with me.
- [61:48]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So I, I, I, I know him.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
We.
- [61:51]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But Derek Henry got Ocho now and he running it. Look at his number. The man had 18k4 buck 28. He running it. Beat him.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Yeah, I, I don't, I Don't know what goes.
- [62:07]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
If you play Pac man, right?
- [62:09]
Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Yeah.
- [62:10]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
When Pac man eat them chairs, you don't run to the monsters. You let him e. Let him eat.
- [62:20]
Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Hey, that's a good one.
- [62:22]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Let me. And. And. And we've seen that this is not the first time that it's happened, and I think this is what the fans are getting irate about. You keep taking. You keep taking D. Henry out. He's running it.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
There's a reason. There's a reason why they do it. We don't know what that reason may be, you know, but they do it for a reason. All the time. All the time. Now, in. In this situation, based on this game, why they're doing it. See, for us watching the game, it doesn't make sense for them. It makes sense because they're doing it for a specific reason. What that reason is.
- [62:57]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yo, sometimes it's for analytics. You see how. See, you see what happens when you don't let the feel your judgment guide you and you start listening to analytics? You see what you just said? I bet you analytics played a role in it. You're good, man. This dude. Hey, that man got 18 carries. This man got 128 yards, and we still got 10 minutes. Run them down. Run it. Oh, Joe, that's what you got him for?
- [63:23]
Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
You ain't never lied. They said it makes it. Makes it.
- [63:26]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, when y' all get this ball back, either y' all gonna be down, either y' all gonna have very little time on the clock, or we gonna.
- [63:32]
Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Get another spot or the other.
- [63:34]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It's one of the other. But Derek Henry can't come up. You can't. Ocho, that'd be like you coming out the field on third down, the most important down. You got 185 yards. Well, Ocho said he was tired. Well, you better call time out. Let Ocho catch a damn breath.
- [63:51]
Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Oh, no, I'm getting tired. I don't get tired. Oh, no. I don't get tired.
- [63:54]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, you look for the. Hey, hey. You run. You run that run up. Run them two, dummy. Go right. Run that one. They don't throw. They.
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Sophie Cunningham
You.
- [64:03]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They. They overshoot you, and you come back and running, you're gonna. Hey, I don't know who your back.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
I'm give you one. Now you. You send me out there. You send me on two goals, posting that opposing the go. I'm a tap.
- [64:18]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, I blowed. We coming to you. Oh, you better come to me on first down. If we get this. If we get this. If we pick up the third diet. I'll be ready on first, but I ain't ready right now.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Hell no.
- [64:31]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But, But I just. Ocho, 18 years is a long time, and it's not like he hasn't had a quarterback. He's had a quarterback that's won two MVPs, could have easily won a third, and nobody would have batted an eye. You get a quarterback that's winning at that level. Come on, bro, you got to close it in. Even if he just gets one.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
That's it. Yeah, once. Once you get that one, that monkey.
- [65:00]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Off your back, that's it. He's got. He's gotta get one. He's got to. And, and I just, you know, like you said, it might be somebody else that has to get a. Moses led him out of Egypt, but he didn't see the promised land.
- [65:21]
Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Hey, I'm with you when you're. Right.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Now. He's done a great job and he took this team to the Super Bowl. They won it with, you know, a. With Flacco at the helm, and they had Ray and Ed and Suggs load. They had a night. They had a great team. Yeah, but you can't. You can't. You can't. You can't do. You can't. You can't make these kind of mistakes. You got to have. You got to have Henry in that game. You got to.
- [65:51]
Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
It'll make no sense. It doesn't make any sense for us that, that are football guys and understand and know the game fans scratching the head, questioning why are they doing it. There's some internally that we don't know about, and there's a reason why they're doing it. Why? I. I don't know. And they've done it multiple times. We fuss about them giving them 11 carries, 12 carries, and, and, and, and yes, statistically saying when they win games, he. He runs it 24 more times, and still they do the same thing.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They do the same thing. And at some point in time, you know, hey, and I'm sure Bashadi, and I'm sure Oz and Dacosta, I'm sure they're asking a whole lot of questions. So what went into this process? What was your thinking? And I understand. But Ocho, I'm fighting for my life, so I've got to fight. So even if that's the plan now, I'm in a different situation because I got less margin of error. The mistakes that I made earlier, that I could probably compensate for, I can no longer make. You already know the Steelers had Won earlier with that. Now they put you on the brink. If I'm on the brink, Ocho. Yeah, I got nothing.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Everything in the kitchen sink.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Adam, what about saving him for next year? Yeah, I don't want to put. I don't want to put no more carrots on your body. I want to save you for 20, 26. Nah, bro. You got February, March, April, May, June. You got five months to heal up. If I got to give him 18 carries in the next 10 minutes. Oh, well, that's why I eat. That's why I eat lettuce and, and hey, and all that stuff that he eats. And they don't eat no fried foods. Did he have avocado and chicken slices and pineapples, beet juice? That's why he lift off and run off. Run up the hill and pull a tire. What the hell he do all that for?
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
For moments like that.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes. Not to stand on the damn sideline and watch somebody else. Nah. Hey, coach, I got it. I got it. I don't, I don't. I don't beat him down this much. Let me go and let me. Go ahead. Yep, that's it. So this is probably, this is maybe the most criticism that, that, that Harbaugh has received in his, in his tenure. You know, he's received great latitude. But when you got, you know, you got an MVP quarterback, you got, I mean, the one thing you can say, Joe Flacco this and that, but come playoff time, that sucker was hard to beat.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Yeah, he was.
- [68:34]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He could have easily had a second Super Bowl. He hit Lee Evans right in the hand, then he dropped it, and then the field goal kicker missed the game time. Field goal.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Damn.
- [68:44]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So I think the fans in Baltimore is like, man, you know, because we talk about windows closing is Josh Allen. Window closing is Mahomes. Window closing is Joe Burrow. Window closing. Well, I think it's only fair that we ask those same questions of the Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens. Are there, Wendell?
- [69:03]
Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
I don't think so. Huh? I don't think so. I mean, because when we talk about windows closing, those quarterbacks you just named are. Those are our top tier quarterbacks. Those are our elite quarterbacks. So you can, you can always, you can always be willing to build a team, a competent team around them to give yourself a chance with those quarterbacks. You have a 10, 15 year span to be able to do what you need to do constructionally to be able to build a winning team, because they, they're gonna give you a chance no matter what. Now you can't just put a goddamn a, a bunch of bums around them. You got to have some key, some, some key pieces. You get, you get some key pieces with those quarterbacks you just named, you're always going to have a chance. Most of the time. They always in contention. I mean, this year they out amazing. I mean, next year they'll probably be back. I'm including Cincinnati. No, I'm not. I'm not boasting because of Cincinnati. The Ravens will be back next year. I mean, Josh is looking like Josh again, like you always had. So those same, those same players will always be in contention and always give you a chance no matter what. Wait, hold on, man. What? No.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Kid this bad talking about he wore all his kids. He told me he had all them kids when he was in Cincinnati. Man, don't. Y' all lost your damn mind. They running his ass crazy.
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
Nah, nah, nah. They good. I'm trying. They, they screaming. They playing goddamn hide and seek. I thought somebody was crying. Hey, it's 12 o' clock at night, man. They need to be in bed.
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Sophie Cunningham
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Rob Gronkowski
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Sophie Cunningham
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
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Sophie Cunningham
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Rob Gronkowski
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
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Rob Gronkowski
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Co-host (possibly a sports analyst or commentator)
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
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Rob Gronkowski
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
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Rob Gronkowski
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
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Rob Gronkowski
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
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