Nightcap Hour 1: Cade Cunningham AND Pistons DOMINATE Knicks + Joe PREDICTS Pistons Will MAKE NBA FINALS + Cade Cunningham Says He’s BEST AMERICAN Player + Joel Embiid WOULD TRADE MVP for HEALTHY POSTSEASON Run

Summary

Club Shay Shay: Nightcap Hour 1 (Feb 20, 2026)

Host: Shannon Sharpe
Co-hosts: Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson, Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)
Episode Focus:
A lively discussion on the Detroit Pistons' dominance led by Cade Cunningham, Joe's bold NBA Finals prediction, Cade’s claim to being the best American player, and candid takes on league trends including MVP chatter, Olympic team selections, and superstar health.

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Main Theme

This episode centers on Cade Cunningham's breakout performance and the Pistons’ meteoric rise to the top of the East. The crew dives into MVP races, predictions for the NBA Finals, debates about elite American players, and transparency about player health and the evolution of the basketball game. Wide-ranging, energetic, and brimming with candid insights, Nightcap takes a pulse of today’s NBA.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Joe Johnson Crowned “People’s Champ”

Tone: Playful Competition, Banter

• Joe Johnson is officially “People’s Champion,” flaunting his status (“I got a nightcap belt coming. It’s on the way, but it’s gonna stay at my house for right now. Cause I got the belt. Okay.” – Joe, 06:07).
• Ongoing banter about Joe’s “anointing” by the audience and playful threats from Ocho and Shannon about dethroning him.
• Talk of friendly competition spills over into future basketball challenges among co-hosts.

2. DETROIT PISTONS: Ascending to the Top

[10:41 – 20:10]

• The Pistons beat the Knicks 126-111, sweeping the Knicks in the season series, led by Cade Cunningham’s near triple-double (42/13/8).
• Joe predicts: “They got a chance to make it to the finals, bro.” (Joe, 12:41)
• Cade’s superstar leap – aggressive, confident, leader even with key pieces suspended/injured (Jalen Duren, Stewart).
• Bench contributions and depth emphasized: Caris LeVert, Jenkins, Kevin Huerter (out tonight), Duncan Robinson.
• “It all revolves around Cade... When those two guys [Cade and Duren] are back, they can flat-out dominate.” (Uncle Ocho, 15:18)

3. Cade Cunningham Among the League’s Elite?

[13:43 – 20:13]

• Debate: Where does Cade rank among the NBA’s young stars? Is he with Shai, Luka, Ant?
  • “Yeah, he up there... they the number one seed in the East.” (Joe, 14:05)
• Cade’s new signature shoe drop over All-Star weekend as a mark of rising stardom.
• Comparison to late-career legends at recent All-Star games (“Why can’t I be [the face]? I’m here. If I’m here.” – Ocho, 20:39)

4. The Power of Confidence in Pro Sports

[24:24 – 27:49]

• Joe and Ocho dive into the athlete’s mindset—how confidence after making an all-star/pro bowl or a hot start transforms performance.
• “Confidence... it just does something to you.” (Co-host, 24:59)
• Rhythm and flow talk: “Anything I do... works. For whatever reason.” (Joe, 26:59)
• War stories about games when things ‘click’ versus nights everything feels off.

5. The NBA MVP Race: Wide Open

[30:34 – 34:33]

• Detroit: Best record 54 games in, Cade Cunningham’s stats almost 26/6/10/1.5 steals, league leader in assists and +/-.
• Jokic, Giannis projected to miss too many games for MVP candidacy; Shai's candidacy dimmed by injury.
• Jayson Brown’s emergence – carrying the Celtics minus Tatum/Horford, earning MVP buzz: “He guards the best player and still puts up 28 to 30 a night. That’s hard to do.” (Joe, 35:24)
• Praise for coach Joe Mazzulla’s “plug and play” rotation and Vucevic’s impact in Boston.

6. Cade Cunningham’s Bold Claim: Best American Player

[40:43 – 41:48]

• Cade to GQ: “I want to be on that Olympic team coming up. I think I’m the best American player.” (Ocho quoting Cade, 40:53)
• Room assesses Cade’s claim amongst names like Ant, Jayson Brown, Steph Curry, Kevin Durant, LeBron, Mitchell, etc.
• “You got to have that kind of confidence... regardless of who else is in the goddamn NBA.” (Co-host, 41:40)

7. Modern NBA & Foul-Baiting

[42:10 – 45:13]

• Cade slams “foul-baiting,” says three of the NBA’s top five “flop too much.” (He doesn’t name names, but speculation points at Luka, Shai, Jokic.)
• Context on how Jordan, Kobe, Shaq drew fouls vs. today’s refs.
• Praise for James Harden and Joel Embiid’s proficiency in drawing fouls: “Nobody drew fouls like James Harden.” (Ocho, 44:10)
• Discussion on rule changes and increased three-point volume.

8. USA Olympic Team and the Next Generation

[45:41 – 47:42]

• The challenge of assembling a competitive, cohesive Olympic roster when so many are used to being “the guy” in the NBA.
• Will KD and Steph return for 2028? Debate on their future participation and the legacy they’ve built.

9. Joel Embiid: Would He Trade His MVP for Health?

[57:17 – 59:40]

• Embiid’s quote: “I would trade my MVP for one healthy postseason run because I think if I’m healthy, I’m dominant enough to carry us to a championship.”
• Panel empathizes with Embiid’s health frustrations and emphasizes the athlete’s responsibility in injury prevention and conditioning.
• “You gotta take accountability... no offseason, stay locked in.” (Joe, 59:40)

10. Women’s Basketball Is “In a Great Space”

[53:03 – 57:17]

• Shoutouts to the dominance of the US women’s national team, their historic win streak (last Olympic loss: 1992).
• Praise for current stars like Chelsea Gray, A’ja Wilson, and Jackie Young, and the excitement around the new Unrivaled Miami league.
• “It ain’t even close.” – on U.S. Women’s edge internationally (Ocho, 56:10)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Joe Johnson’s Finals Call:
  • "We gonna look up in a couple months. Them boys, they got a chance to make it to the finals, bro." (12:41)
• Cade’s Confidence:
  • Quoting Cade: "I think I'm the best American player." (Ocho, 40:53)
• On the MVP Race:
  • “He guards the best player and still puts up, you know, 28 to 30 a night. That’s hard to do.” (Joe, 35:24)
• On Women’s Team Dominance:
  • "It ain't even close." (Ocho, 56:10)
• On Foul-Baiting:
  • "Three of the top five, ten guys in the NBA are doing it constantly." (Ocho, 42:18)
• On Embiid’s Health:
  • "You gotta take accountability for that part, man... you can’t come into camp overweight." (Joe, 59:04)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• 05:26–10:36: Banter about Joe’s “People’s Champion” reign; playful competition
• 10:41–20:10: Pistons-Knicks recap, Pistons’ playoff and Finals outlook
• 13:43–20:13: Cade vs. NBA elite, confidence, and All-Star impact
• 24:24–27:49: The power of athletic confidence; anecdotes from careers
• 30:34–34:33: Deep dive: MVP race and Jayson Brown’s Celtics ascent
• 40:43–41:48: Cade proclaims himself top American player
• 42:10–45:13: Foul-baiting, rule changes, evolution of NBA skillset
• 53:03–57:17: U.S. Women’s basketball dominance, Chelsea Gray shoutout
• 57:17–60:06: Embiid’s MVP for health claim, responsibility for staying fit

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Tone & Style

• Fast-paced, informal, loaded with playful trash-talk and mutual respect.
• Honest reflections (“real talk”) mixed with bravado, plenty of storytelling.
• Generational and cross-disciplinary insights—NFL/NBA comparisons, culture references.
• Celebratory of players’ confidence, supportive of up-and-coming stars.

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Summary Takeaways

• Pistons are for real: With Cade Cunningham leading, Detroit’s deep, tough, and clicking on all levels. Joe’s NBA Finals prediction—while bold—is rationalized by team stats and intangibles.
• MVP landscape is wide open: Absences/injuries of usual suspects open the door for new stars (Cade, Jayson Brown).
• Cade’s arrival: With confidence, performance, and a new signature shoe, he’s intent on taking his place among the NBA’s elite Americans and is not shy about saying so.
• Player health and preparation remain central themes: Candid comments on Embiid’s struggles put the spotlight on offseason habits and longevity.
• Women’s basketball ride high: The WNBA’s Unrivaled league, star power, and U.S. international dominance are celebrated by all.
• The next Olympic roster will be fascinating: Debates over leadership, role sacrifice, and the construction of the post-LeBron/Steph/KD era take center stage.

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This episode is a must-listen for fans wanting a fun, unfiltered, and knowledgeable breakdown of the current NBA landscape and the sporting culture that shapes it.

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[Joe Johnson]

Hey, whoa, hey.

[Co-host/Commentator]

What's. What's on top of your head? What's that?

[Joe Johnson]

Listen, listen. You know, heavy is the head that wears the crown. Okay? Hey, hey, hey, hey. This here comes with great responsibility now, you know what I mean? I've been chosen. I've been chosen by the people.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Nightcap people in the chat, people in the comments. I've been chosen to be the person to carry this thing. Okay.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

All right.

[Co-host/Commentator]

So, hey, you feeling good about yourself, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel great. I feel great. So look, check this out. I got a nightcap belt coming. It's on the way, but it's gonna stay at my house for right now. Cause I got the belt. Okay.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

If just so happened, we all hang out and one of y' all win more than me, then I'll send the belt to you guys. But for right now, I'm the people's channel. I'm the king. I sit on the throne. Fellas, hey, how y' all doing, man? What's going on?

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, okay. Hey, Ojo, you notice every time we post up, he all in the comments. He all the.

[Joe Johnson]

He.

[Uncle Ocho]

He sh. Back in the comments, hearing everybody comments, got something to say.

[Co-host/Commentator]

But listen, it's. It's okay. Let him have his time. Let him have his shine. What Joe got right now, uncle, is temporary. It's not going to last forever. He doing too much.

[Uncle Ocho]

That poop fast. Don't poop long.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah. Nah. Hey, hey. I take the responsibility of this, fellas. Hey, listen, let me tell y' all something.

[Uncle Ocho]

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[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah, it's cool.

[Joe Johnson]

Listen, listen, fellas, fellas, y' all turn is gonna come, man, Listen, he unusual.

[Uncle Ocho]

He being real unusual right now. Oo.

[Co-host/Commentator]

I ain't. Hey, hey. I ain't never seen this side, okay? Never.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey. Oo. Oo. I told you, I take full responsibility for from the people, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

This what.

[Joe Johnson]

This is what they want.

[Uncle Ocho]

This is. They.

[Joe Johnson]

They've anointed me. They've anointed me.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Oh, I anointed.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah. Now he over there looking like King Joe Fair coming to America. Hey, that.

[Joe Johnson]

There you go.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay.

[Co-host/Commentator]

I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it. Make sure you able to back everything up. Hey, make sure you have a back.

[Uncle Ocho]

We did on oo. You see how we did it was kind of like the Daytona 500. You see those guys racing, they end up crashing each other and somebody slipped it in one. Yeah, you see how they did that. You and I, we going trying to cut each.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, listen, let me tell y' all something, man. I had already told y' all before we even done all that. See, y' all thought I was selling wolf tickets. I ain't had enough for sale. Ocho selling all the tickets. I'm telling you straight business what's happening? You know what I mean? I'm like, look, man, I'm a pretty decent bowler. You know, I adapt. Well,

[Uncle Ocho]

he anointed you, this man. Oh, Joe. Oh, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

You heard it, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

Somebody he anointed. The people chose him.

[Joe Johnson]

Anointed. This is chosen me, man.

[Co-host/Commentator]

You know, this is all my fault. Honestly, this is my fault, because I felt bad for you, Joe. You had an injury. I took it easy on you. I felt bad for obviously respecting my elders. I mean,

[Joe Johnson]

I got one more thing to say. Think about this. If I was only 65, 70, then can you imagine what I am if I'm 100%? Oh, Lord.

[Uncle Ocho]

How was that gonna help you in the events that you lost? Joe, your injury have nothing to do. And have nothing to do with the golf shot. It have nothing to do with cornhole. You won a couple.

[Joe Johnson]

First off, I. You know, it's kind of like. It's kind of like when. Like baseball, when you go up the bat, you never swing at the first one, right? You know what I mean? You let the first one. So I let you and Ocho, just to kind of see how y' all will act towards me. If y' all won the first one, then I seen y'. All. I'm saying. Okay, okay, okay, okay. I got something. I got something for them. I got something.

[Co-host/Commentator]

All right.

[Uncle Ocho]

Your day coming, though. I just want you to know your day coming. So just mark it on the counter.

[Joe Johnson]

I just.

[Uncle Ocho]

It is not your birthday.

[Joe Johnson]

I know. I know the people watch Nightcap outside and, you know, people been in my DMs in the comments, and they've anointed me. Fellas. I. I know. I know it's tough for y' all to kind of grasp that right now, but this is where we at.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay? Yeah, this is where we at. Okay?

[Co-host/Commentator]

I'm gonna let you have it.

[Uncle Ocho]

Your day coming, Josh. I just want you to know. Just know your day is coming, huh? The game tonight, the Pistons beat the Knicks 126 to 111. Boy K. Cunningham had himself a night at the Madison Square Garden. 2 rebounds short of a triple dub. 42 points, 13 assists, 8 rebounds as the Pistons sweep the season series 30 against the Knicks. They won four straight games. Four straight game. Four straight wins. Excuse me. For the Pistons, and they won by an average of 28 points. And they're the number. They have a commanding lead in the Eastern Conference right now. Their number one seed in the Eastern Conference with a record of 41 and 13. There's six game clear of the Celtics, who's currently playing right now, the warriors and the Knicks, who they just beat. Also, the Cavaliers are seven. Seven games back. The Knicks and the Cavaliers are seven games back with the Raptors at nine games back. Joe. But watching this game tonight Watching Cade Cunningham, boy, he. He did enough. He did a number. He did a number, what, 17 to 34? Yeah, like I said, 42 points, 13 assists, eight rebounds. He did it all tonight. He did it all tonight.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

What'd you like about what you called

[Joe Johnson]

Kane and the Pistons and Uncle Ocho, they didn't have a other all star, which is Jalen During. He didn't play tonight.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

So he carried a heavy load. And you can tell from start, from the start, he came out very aggressive, getting to his spots. And I just think I picked Detroit to beat the Knicks last playoffs. Obviously, it was a learning lesson. They swept them throughout this whole season. They won all four games. So they got the edge on the Knicks right now. And the Pistons, as soon as they get healthy, Uncle Ocho, they just gonna cruise into the playoffs, bro. They gonna be something to deal with in the Eastern Conference. I'm telling you, we gonna look up in a couple months. Them boys, they. They got a chance to make it to the finals, bro.

[Uncle Ocho]

They absolutely have a.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Hold on, wait, whoa. Hold on, Joe. Hold on, Joe. Hold on. Now. I know Cade Cunningham is very nice. I know he's very good. But you see, you think they can make it to the finals?

[Joe Johnson]

Yes, Ocho, they. They got, they got a great young team and they gotta. They deep too. And they got guys who come off the bench who can win some games in the playoffs as well, you know, and they're a gritty team, you know. You know, say what you want about big fella Stewart who always, you know,

[Uncle Ocho]

defended, but you need.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, you know, hey, listen, when they get these guys back full strength, bro, they gonna feed off that energy right there. And you know, you want to do like that, man, you want to intimidate a agitator, a guy who gonna go out there and, you know, beat. Beat a. Beat a muscle for the squad. I just think they got everything you could want in a team, like from shooting to, you know, obviously a go to guy in K who gets. I mean, oh, come on tonight, man. He looked, he looked, he looked great tonight.

[Co-host/Commentator]

He did a nice.

[Uncle Ocho]

He looked phenomenal. Go ahead.

[Co-host/Commentator]

And I got. I got a question. I got a basketball question for both of you. As great as Kate Cunningham looked tonight, as great as he looked last year, where is he right now in. In your list of top, top players in the league?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, right.

[Uncle Ocho]

He's up there because he can.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Is he up there with. Is he up there with Shay and Ant man Luca? Is he in that same stratosphere?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, he up There he up there. Ocho. He up. Look, they number one and they number one seed in the East. They gonna finish with the number one.

[Uncle Ocho]

I agree.

[Joe Johnson]

With the number one seed.

[Uncle Ocho]

I agree.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Okay.

[Uncle Ocho]

The deep, they got a nice bit.

[Joe Johnson]

It's just due. Yeah. Hey, look, did y' all see over All Star weekend, he dropped his new shoe. He just got a signature shoe.

[Uncle Ocho]

I saw. I saw a little bit of it. You know, I was trying to. You know, trying to.

[Joe Johnson]

He would, he would Nike. I'm. I'm talking about his signature shoe that he just dropped during All Star break. I. I would probably say Uncle Ocho, serious business from a sneaker head. And that. That put him in like the top five of sneakers. Like it's cold.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, yeah. When you get a signature. When you get a signature and from one of the big dogs.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah, you that boy, huh?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, hey, hey. And you putting them numbers up too. You hear me? Yeah, yeah. Detroit got him one boy.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, you know, they got guys. When you look at them from a bench standpoint, they got Caris Lavert, they got Jenkins, they got guys. Herter didn't even play tonight. He can make big shots. He can make threes. They got guys. Lavert can knock down threes, but he can put the ball on the floor. I like Jenkins. He was super aggressive tonight. But, you know, it all, it all. It's around Cade. It's around Cade and Jalen and when those two guys. And like you said, both of those guys, Stuart and Duran is serving suspension.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

So they'll be back. Thompson, Tobias was. He didn't shoot the ball well tonight, but he rebounded the ball extremely well. He had five assists. He was 4, 16. Tobias is better than that. But if he can just give them some consistency, he give them, you know, somewhere 12, 12 points. Joe and Ocho, he give him those rebounds. He give them somewhere seven to 10 rebounds, you know, three to six assists. That's plenty enough. Cause Duran going to give you. He going to get double double. He's a walking double double. Cade, do what he does. He's going to be somewhere around 20 and 10, 24 and 10. And then the bent chip in with what they got. I. I don't. When you look at them and I know, look, Jalen. Jalen Brunson is going to be. Jalen Brunson. He's gonna get his points. Yeah, he's gonna get his points. Cat didn't play bad tonight. He was 7 or 14, but Cat got, ah, I don't know what it is.

[Co-host/Commentator]

What do you mean he Wasn't bad tonight?

[Uncle Ocho]

7 or 14. I need. I need a little bit more. I need a little bit. I need some more shots sometimes. I'm watching him tonight, Joe. He go to the basket, super duper weak. They be knocking the ball out his hand. They be blocking the shot. I said, come on, Cat.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, Cat a finesse big. He'll finesse big. He. He ain't coming in there with that

[Uncle Ocho]

power and authority guy just pull the ball out his hand, knock it off his knee. They block his shot. I was like, come on, Cat. At seven foot tall, at some point in time, he got to put somebody in the basket and then they'll stop doing all that foolishness.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah, I mean, he is what he is at this point. If he hadn't done it before, as long as he's been in the league, ain't in him.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, you know what's surprising, though? It's like the Knicks got these wing defenders, but, man, Detroit made it look so easy. 126 points. Yeah, man, you ain't guarding nobody.

[Uncle Ocho]

It didn't matter. It didn't matter who they put OG they put. They put hard. They put bridges. They have no answer for Cade tonight. Now, he was super. He was super, super. He got up 34 shots. I can't remember last time, Joey. I think off the top of my head, I've seen somebody get up this many shots. So he was. He was super aggressive from the jump. I think he had like 19 shot attempts in the first half. I'm like, well, damn. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, but uncle, I like that, though, because he know he has to assert himself early in this game. It's a big game, you know what I mean? This is the second half of the season, Ocho.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

We coming down, you know, jockeying for position or necessarily, if you in Detroit's case, you want to stay at number one. You know, you don't want to squander none of these games away. So I just thought he came out and was aggressive. You missing one of your all Stars, you missing another. Your running mate, you got your muscle, he out. So, you know you're going to have to do a lot more. A lot is going to be asked of you. But listen, he said, man, put it on my back, partner. Yeah, I can handle that. You know what I'm talking about? That boy came out and did his thing for 42 and 13 assists.

[Uncle Ocho]

And if you think about it, they got guys like Duncan Robinson can knock down threes, Herta can knock down threes. They got Guys that can knock down threes if you start to slough or you try to double him, and he's a good enough passer. Cause he made some passes tonight. You got to. It's hard for one guy. And if he did this to the Knicks, and the way they play defense with OG and Hart, Mikhail Bridges, if he did this to them and a whole lot of other teams have a group of defenders that can defend him any better than what the Knicks did tonight, they. Now you just hope he has an off night because he's playing with extreme confidence. And Joe, you know this. With oo, we had the same feeling. Once you go to a Pro bowl, you go to an All Star game, you. You have a sense of belief that I belong. I'm one of the guys you looking around. Yeah, I'm one of the 12. I'm one of the 24 best players in the NBA. I'm one of the. I'm one of the 24best players, one of the 48 best players in the NFL. I belong now. Now your confidence goes through the roof.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, y' all got hell now. Y' all can never let me come across.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah. It's a. In real talk, it take you to a whole nother level, because the belief and confidence that you have in yourself and then once you amongst the top elite talent in the NBA for one weekend, then you kind of start to see how things are starting to shape out. Then you go back into the season with so much confidence, like, listen, it's my turn now. And I just feel like that's kind of what. Where Cade was at and kind of piggyback off what Unk said. Once he gets going like that. Now, yeah, the mother guys, Duncan Robinson, now they can get some shots, you know what I mean? Thompson gets some easy. Some easy shots because he's so aggressive. Ocho, he got so much attention on him that, you know, he. He making plays for everybody, you know what I mean? And I think that's why it's going to be hard to stop them, bro, because in the playoffs, when everything slows down, he can post up, he can play out the post, so then he can pick you apart almost on some, like, yokish type, you know what I mean? But I think Detroit gonna be something to reckon with. I'm telling y', all, man, y', all,

[Uncle Ocho]

we gonna look up.

[Joe Johnson]

Them boys gonna be in the finals in June.

[Uncle Ocho]

I agree. I think they're definitely going to be something. And when you look it around and Kate is looking around, he's like, hold on. I see Katie, I see Steph, I see Jokic. I see Yeah, I see LeBron now. I see guys in year 23. I see guys in year 17. I see you guys. I like, hold on. In the next three, four years. I mean, they keep talking about who gonna be the face. Why can't I be? I'm here. If I'm here.

[Joe Johnson]

Hello.

[Uncle Ocho]

Even if they didn't send for me, I came anyway.

[Joe Johnson]

There you go.

[Uncle Ocho]

So it don't matter. So it's just something when you go to the Pro Bowl. Ocho we speak before at football players, and I look across, I'm like, damn. I see Jerry, I see Playmaker Man. I see Joe, I see oh, Barry Time.

[Joe Johnson]

Then I look at my own squad.

[Uncle Ocho]

I got Brucey Elway Marino living on a prayer.

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[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm him.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm him. Damn. With this. Yeah, y' all gonna catch hell to keep me from coming back over here.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey. And not hey. And not only that, Uncle Ocho, I done came out, they done gave me my signature shoe. So, you know I gotta show out now. Yeah. Yeah. So now when I touch the court, you know, you. You see them red things on my feet? Yeah. I'm gonna get to it. I'm gonna show y' all why I got my signature shoe. That's basically what. That's what Cade said.

[Uncle Ocho]

He said. And I told him to make sure they red. Cause I'm finna clown all you punks. Hello.

[Joe Johnson]

Is it Fashion Week? Because I'm here to show. I'm here to walk.

[Uncle Ocho]

I ain't never seen a clown any other color shoes but red. And they bigger than this.

[Co-host/Commentator]

You know what, Joe? You could probably attest to this, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

What's that?

[Co-host/Commentator]

Like when confidence sets in, you play with confidence, Joe. At some point you play with confidence at the highest level. And I'm thinking what confidence did for me when it comes to the NFL. And I'm. I'm going to see if it transitions or translate over to the NBA. When I was confident in the game, that. When you talk about the game, the game of football, you talk about the game of basketball at the highest level. It's so goddamn fast, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Man.

[Co-host/Commentator]

It's so goddamn fast. But when you have confidence and you get in that zone and you're confident what you're doing and you know what's going on. The game seems so slow at that point.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Once you get confidence, everything is not moving in slow motion, but it's not as fast as people say it is. Because that confidence does. It does. It just. It just does something to you. I don't really know how to put it into words most of the time before kickoff. I'm nervous, Joe. I got butterflies in my stomach. Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Commentator]

I didn't talk trash all week. Why the hell am I nervous? Why the hell am I not scared? But there's a certain fear to it. Until I touch that ball, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah. Once I touch that ball early in the game, man, it just. It just do something to you. I don't know how to explain it. I don't know if it's like that with basketball, you know, you make your first shot. I. I don't know how it goes, but. Oh, yeah, but confidence is. Is. Is. Is one hell of a drug. It's a high.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, man, it's everything, man. Ocho. Yeah. You make them a. In basketball, boy, you make that first shot or two. It's a rap. It's a heat check about to come out to that, and somebody in trouble. Yeah, it's the same way somebody in football.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, Ojo, you know, you catch the first pass, you get a 35 yard touchdown. You're like, hold on, I already got 35 yards and a touchdown. Oh, y' all in trouble. Y' all in trouble. And don't let me have a three catches. And I got 70 yards already. And we still in the first quarter. We early in the second. Oh, I'm getting a hundred.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, I'm getting absolutely, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, you ain't getting up. Shut up. I'm in the end zone. You told me I ain't gonna get nothing. Just ain't gonna get nothing else because I already got this one. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, ain't nothing like getting off to a good start.

[Uncle Ocho]

Ain't nothing like it. Ain't nothing like it, Jordan.

[Joe Johnson]

Because it seemed like it just takes you through the whole momentum of the game. It's like everything kind of goes your way, you know what I mean? And you don't have to even try hard, you know, it's just like. It's like in basketball sometimes, you know, okay, Ocho, you can be playing if you're a guy who really don't score, really don't want to shoot the ball. It's like the ball of fire.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

You know what I Mean, in basketball, it's kind of similar there, but it's like in a rhythm. It's like on anything I do. Right. Works.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

For whatever reason, you know what I mean?

[Uncle Ocho]

And like you said, I mean, just everything they call it, I'm like. I'm the second read. I'm the third read. And lo and behold, I get like, damn. Okay. Appreciate it. And everything is just flowing like. Oh, man. Hey, what. What you like? Call whatever you want.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Call a run.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm gonna be right.

[Joe Johnson]

Right.

[Uncle Ocho]

Call whatever you like.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, listen.

[Uncle Ocho]

My playground now.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, listen, but on another note, it's been games. So why don't win in the games, okay, Ocho? I'm talking about feeling good, warmed up good. I'm talking about. Boy, couldn't hit Nathaniel out there. Hear me? You know what I mean? It's been like. My body feel good. I'm like, I'm ready to go.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Off tonight.

[Joe Johnson]

Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's been days, man. I don't feel good and been off

[Uncle Ocho]

the best game I ever had, Joe. I didn't do nothing that week of practice. I was like, man, I don't even know. Why am I here practicing that game against Kansas City? I think I caught like, four passes the whole week in practice, Joe. The whole week of practice. Yes. And then we get. And the thing is, I only had, like, 30 yards at the half, Ocho. I had 30 yards at the half. End up with 214.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Damn, boy, you went crazy in the second half, huh?

[Uncle Ocho]

They had, you know, because, you know, at half. Oh, we draw plays up. This is what we like. Okay? This is what they're doing to this. That. They said, hey, 84, we're gonna come out with the counter pass. Just make sure. Hey, just make sure. I was like, counterpart, bro. You call that one. You call that on Wednesday? I ain't see that itch no more.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Right, right.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay. Boy, we ran that counter. The linebackers stuck. They took one step. I said, if you take one step, you bet. Oh, you took a step. God dang it.

[Co-host/Commentator]

It's a rap.

[Uncle Ocho]

I had a tv. They were trying to get me. But I had a tv, Ocho.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

I had that TV up under my arm, Ocho. They couldn't catch me. Yeah, but. But it's like that sometimes. You have a great week of practice. You just like, no. Oh, this 100, easy. This 102, tubs. Oo this easy work here. Getting the game. I end up. I got three for 30.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey, listen, hey, look, if, if, if you done lost, you really mad about.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, yeah. You probably can take 3 for 30 and have.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh yeah, for sure, for sure.

[Joe Johnson]

Look, you still gonna feel away, but you only we won.

[Uncle Ocho]

But then, you know, we just, hey, we just got to make sure we do. But hey, you know, they talk about they go, we gonna do a better job. We got to get you more involved. It ain't gonna do no good. Now that game over. Talk about get me invol.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Game over.

[Uncle Ocho]

Y' all pull that bull job again, y' all might have to get the police, the po po involved. Cuz I'm a.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Hey, I, I, I, I remember them days. I remember them conversations. Hey, hey, a receiver coach try to come talk to you. I know you ain't touched the ball yet. I, I know. Hey, it's been, hey, it's been three quarters. We going into the fourth. What are we doing?

[Uncle Ocho]

And then guess what they asked you, Ocho, what you like? I like you to get the F out my face. That's what I would really like because I'm about to blow my. Oh, I'm about to lose it. Yeah, what it's looking like, what they doing? You asked me that. Now we down 14 and they got the ball and you talk about what I like.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Boy, I remember.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, my goodness.

[Uncle Ocho]

Get out my face.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah,

[Co-host/Commentator]

good memories, man. Good memories, man.

[Uncle Ocho]

But 54 games into the season, Detroit Pistons has the worst. They have the best record in the NBA. Were they right there with what you call them with the OKC, 54 games. Detroit had the worst record in 2024. What a difference couple years make. Because now Cade Cunningham is averaging 27, 25 and a half points, almost 26 points a game, almost six rebounds a game, almost 10 assists the game, 1.5 steals per game. He leads the league and assists, he's leading the east and plus minus and the best player on the best team. He's going to get some serious, serious MVP votes because it's so. Because I think the thing is Jokic and Giannis is probably going to be out of it. They're not going to play enough games.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Right. They missed too many games.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yep.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. And it depends on.

[Uncle Ocho]

I'm sure Shay is gonna probably play enough games, but it ain't gonna be as defended because now you look at it, because last year they were so much, the record was so good. But right now you look at, okay, Cain's like, hold on, I'm playing neck and neck. He's averaging more points. I average More rebounds than assists. And my team, My record. My team record is just as good as his.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. So we got.

[Uncle Ocho]

We got.

[Joe Johnson]

We got a couple more months to see because right now, yeah, you're right, they about naked. They about neck and neck. One can pull away from the other, just depending on, obviously, team success.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Right.

[Joe Johnson]

And obviously, you know, the numbers those. That those guys gonna have to continue to put up. But I think.

[Uncle Ocho]

I think Shay being out, it definitely gives us an opportunity to just look at Cade, to focus on Cade, because he's not there.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

And so, like I said, with Giannis being out, Jokic, I don't know. Kevin Yokich can only miss one more game. What's the likelihood he played the next 50 games, Joe? I don't. I don't see it happening.

[Joe Johnson]

You ain't, you ain't got. You ain't got Luca in there. Yeah, he got a shot at the

[Uncle Ocho]

dark, is going to be in there. I. I definitely do think Luca gonna be in there.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, he got a shot in the dark, huh? You know, they. The Lakers can, you know, stay afloat, maybe even go on a run.

[Uncle Ocho]

Continue. Four seed, though. They need to be.

[Joe Johnson]

That's what I was gonna say. There you go. They got. They got to stay at the top of the west, and I think they. I think he'll definitely have a chance.

[Uncle Ocho]

Jalen Brown, too. Jalen Brown gonna get some.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes. What Are they in second place?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yep. And he's averaging like 27, 20 other games.

[Joe Johnson]

Definitely seven. Yeah, he probably. That's a. Probably career high. It is for him. 28 a game up, huh? Yeah, 28 a game.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, he's like 27. 28 a game.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, yeah, he definitely.

[Co-host/Commentator]

They, they. They killing the warriors right now. 83, 54.

[Joe Johnson]

The warriors beat up, man. Without Steph Curry, it just don't even look the same.

[Uncle Ocho]

And I think the thing is, is that when you think about them, he's doing this without Jason Tatum. No. Al Horford. Yeah. They've traded Prezingas, they've traded Holiday, and he has them in second place. And he's really the only. He's the only All Star on that team. Ain't no nobody even thinking about All Star. I don't think anybody else other than him know anything about Chuck Taylor. So that's the only All Star they know. So with him playing the way he's playing, he's definitely in the MVP discussion.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. And I think Joe Missoula should. He deserves more credit, too, the coach, because it's Basically been plug and play. You know, they got rid of key guys, bro, and just brought in guys off the bench, guys whom they've developed.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Right.

[Joe Johnson]

They've stepped right in and continued to play at a high level. And then you get Vucevich, which a lot of people ain't talking about. That's going to help Boston out, too. They. They. They got a chance to battle in that east as well.

[Uncle Ocho]

He could pull you. He can pull the other big away from the basket. He can play the pick and he can get in the pick and roll. He can pick and pop. He can dive, he can shoot the three. He could defend. He can. He can weak side help. Oh, he's. He's a. He's a solid player.

[Joe Johnson]

They look, yeah, he get. He gives. He a. He a real threat. He's going to be a real threat out there.

[Uncle Ocho]

I like, I like.

[Joe Johnson]

You can kind of play through them a little bit.

[Uncle Ocho]

I did not see this, though, Joe. I ain't gonna lie. I did not see the Celtics being this good. Not without J. No, no, I didn't either. The pieces that. That JT's not there, and the pieces they got rid of. Look, Jalen Brown is right. He's a Finals mvp. He's an Eastern Conference mvp. He's been an all. He's an all NBA selection. He's a. He's a. An all star. Okay, fine. But to be. To have the two seed in the east and Plague, you got to tip your hat to the.

[Joe Johnson]

I think Uncle Ocho. I think he took everything personal because he's heard all this, you know, he. He's heard the shots that people took at Boston. Oh, they weren't going to be able to compete. He's heard it from everybody. He's heard it from all of us. So I think he took it personal, honestly, because the numbers that he's putting up this year, the way he's been playing. I ain't just talking about offensively, Uncle Ocho. I'm talking about defensively. He takes the talent.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

He guards. He guards the best player and still puts up, you know, 28 to 30 points a night. That's hard to do. That's why when you look at him and you see his physique, his body, you see how cut and ripped up he is.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Like, he can go all day, bro. He can go all day. So, yeah, I think he got a shot in the dark, Uncle Ocho, on that MVP as well.

[Uncle Ocho]

It wasn't the JT gone and y' all ain't gonna be nothing. It was the Olympic team. He's like, hold on. I'm a Finals mvp. And y' all take the third or the fourth best player on my team, Derrick White, over me as an Eastern Conference mvp? As a NBA Finals mvp. And you mean to tell me that y' all take and this is not a shot at Derrick? Why I love my teammate. Unbelievable. We won a championship together. But y' all don't crack if y' all think this man better than me. And, but, but I think the thing of the All Star situation, Joe, you gotta look. Okay, guys, Devin Booker say, hey, I ain't got to score a point. What y' all need? I defend. Ant man say, I defend. So you gotta sacrifice a lot. When you go to these teams. You can't be the guy that you were at your team. They got, they got KD, LeBron and Steph. It's built around them. Everybody else, you got a role to play. When Grant Hill and everybody, they put this team together, they said, okay, let's look at who can do this, who can do that. And you got to swallow a lot of pride because look at JT. JT was a three time first team all NBA selection. That man getting some DNPs. That man played two, three minutes a game.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah, he barely played.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, hey, but listen, listen. See, you know, in the olympics, they played 10 minute quarters. So instead of 12 minutes, it's a, it's a 40 minute game versus a 40 minute game. So if Tatum already got games when he was getting DNPs, they so front loaded with that position. Like uncle saying with, with LeBron and KD, bro. Yeah, they gonna play 30 plus minutes ain't before the minutes, you know what I'm saying? So if you bring Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum, hell, you're gonna have two guys that gonna have some dmp.

[Uncle Ocho]

Derek White knows he's not. He's there to play defense. Book already done said it. Books, I do whatever y' all need me to do. If I need to grab water, I got you. So you know, hey, it's kind of like when, when the OG team went. Y' all know who they came to see?

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Get in where you fit in. Well, Larry already said last start the game, and the next thing you know, he laying on his stomach or laying on his back. Cause his back the locked up on it, so. But no, man, I love Kate Cunningham. He's in the MVP discussion. They're the number one seed in the Eastern Conference by six games. They're playing extremely well. He's an all star. Obviously he's going to be an all NBA selection and deservedly so.

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[Uncle Ocho]

he's playing phenomenal basketball as we speak. Speaking of Cade Cunningham, K. Cunningham says he's the best American player in the NBA. He told gq, I want to be on that Olympic team coming up. I think I'm the best American player, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Wow.

[Uncle Ocho]

And when you say American player, we got Ant man, we got jb, we got jt, we got Steph Curry, we got Kevin Durant, we got Ant man, we got LeBron James. That's six American players that I named right there. Yeah. He said I'm the best American player. That what he said.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, listen.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

So listen. We got to take the man amongst his word. He said he the best. Hey, he gonna. Hey, look, maybe that's why he came out and put on the performance he put on tonight.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Against the Knicks. He said he gonna show you. Ben.

[Uncle Ocho]

He continue. And Mitch, we left out Donovan Mitchell. So that's. That's 10 when you think about American players.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

But hey, hey, but he definitely. He definitely.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, he gonna be on the team.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah, absolutely. And matter of fact, you got. You got to have that kind of confidence. You got to talk like that. You got to feel you're the best at what you do, regardless of who else is in goddamn NBA.

[Joe Johnson]

There you go.

[Co-host/Commentator]

That boy, too.

[Uncle Ocho]

Detroit.

[Co-host/Commentator]

I'm going to put us on the mantle. I want people watching us. I want people to pay attention to what we doing. How do you do that? When you have an article like that and you say something like that that nobody can call egregious because you're backing it up on the goddamn court, on the hardwood.

[Joe Johnson]

There you go.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Not all eyes on you when you do that kind of talking.

[Joe Johnson]

There you go.

[Co-host/Commentator]

You know what he's doing.

[Uncle Ocho]

He also said. He also told gq, guy foul baiting is the biggest problem in the NBA. And accuses three superstars and in the top five tier of doing it. They flopping it just too much. What are you doing? Your best players do that. Three of the top five, 10 guys in the NBA are doing it constantly. You gonna kick them out of the game. Yo, who are we talking about?

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah, who we talking about? Joey,

[Joe Johnson]

he talking about Luca. He talking about Shay. Hey, who was he talking about?

[Uncle Ocho]

You think you talking about yokis who

[Co-host/Commentator]

yoga's be flopping.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, they are. They got that little. They got that little. They got a lot of flop to their game, Ocho. But hey, they getting into the best

[Uncle Ocho]

players have always been able to draw fouls, especially when you drive. When you hold, drive the ball, you can put it on the floor. Jordan, Kobe, now obviously with Shaq, Shaq was going. Cause you gotta, you, you gotta follow him. Oh, he gonna dunk. Bring the basket, Bring the gold down on your damn head. But the guards have always done that, right?

[Joe Johnson]

I think it's been modified a lot differently in today's era. Uncle Ocho, like, Jordan was so athletic that he was going to the cup like he was taking a beating. You know what I mean? He wasn't shying away from the contact. Nowadays you got guys soon as you. Because you can't handshake.

[Uncle Ocho]

None of that.

[Joe Johnson]

Nowadays, as soon as you drive and a guy touch you, you see they

[Uncle Ocho]

flail, they falling back like, bro, stop

[Joe Johnson]

trying to get the ref attention. They trying to get the repetition. Because at the same time, when I'm driving, Ocho, you can't have your hands on me, bro. Yeah, back then, you know.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, yeah, you had to play through contact.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah, yeah, they.

[Uncle Ocho]

They body you up, you go to the thing, they body you up. Hey, all you see the official dudes like, oh, get up, play on, get up. That's all they do it, Joe. But you know what? Hey, we talk about Shay, but people forget there was like a five to like a six year stretch. Nobody drew five, five files like James Harden. Nobody.

[Joe Johnson]

No, nobody do like James Harden.

[Uncle Ocho]

And then there was like a three year stretch when nobody drew files like Joel Embiid. Not even close.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, because they, they figured it out. Well, James just got a knack. He got a knack for scoring and seeking contact. Body hunting, we call it body hunting. Once he get in the paint anywhere, he know guys gonna be in there reaching, he gonna extend that ball, you gonna hit his arms. He figured that out.

[Uncle Ocho]

He, he, he is the best at that.

[Joe Johnson]

And then Embi, he was just trying to find different ways to score the basketball.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

You know what I mean? Versus taking the beat. And he know guys gonna play him hard, they gonna be overly aggressive. So he used their aggressiveness against them. You know what I mean?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

They started to figure it out.

[Uncle Ocho]

And the thing is, just think when those guys back in the day was averaging 30 with no three point shot,

[Joe Johnson]

them boy made mid range.

[Uncle Ocho]

And Sam that's all they was doing. Midis midties.

[Joe Johnson]

Now you got guys shooting one or two steps over half.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes. Oh, even the top players getting up anywhere between five and eight threes a game. Luca Shay, they getting up between five and eight. Donovan Mitchell, ant man. Yeah, they getting up between five and 8 threes a damn game.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh yeah. Oh yeah. That's, that's, that's that and that's. Yes, that's, that's yeah. Because there's some boys out here. Yeah, them boy getting 8 to 12 threes up. Them boys ain't playing.

[Sponsor Announcer]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

It's a different ball game.

[Uncle Ocho]

I don't have no problem with what K said. Hey. Cause guess what? They gonna start picking this team next year. Cause you know. Yeah, I think they already qualified.

[Joe Johnson]

Right.

[Uncle Ocho]

Or do they have to go to the Worlds again or the Feeble.

[Joe Johnson]

I. I'm not sure he gonna be on.

[Uncle Ocho]

We don't be sending to you like everybody else be going to all these tournaments. We just basically.

[Joe Johnson]

Right.

[Uncle Ocho]

We just get ready for the Olympics. We throw a team together for the Olympics. You might be, you might come out better. Sitting a team that's used to playing together. It's hard to get guys that. He averages 30 on his team. He averages 32 or 28 and he's used to playing somewhere between 35 and 40 minutes a game. And now you got this man playing 18 minutes and you think he gonna be cool with that.

[Joe Johnson]

And it's tough because the chemistry that you have to have, it's like we all kind of gotta sacrifice a little bit. You know what I mean? But you don't want to be too unselfish to where the game starts to look sloppy and now you passing up shots that you typically would take. You know what I mean? So I don't know man. I think I, I think I, I think, I think we're going to be in a good spot.

[Uncle Ocho]

It's going to be very interesting. I think the Olympic team is going to be a look a lot different. I can see a scenario where KD is on the team. I don't know if Steph. I think.

[Joe Johnson]

You think he gonna want to do it. You think he gonna want to do it though?

[Uncle Ocho]

I think Katie's gonna want to do it. Why not? Why did I go?

[Joe Johnson]

That's in 28.

[Co-host/Commentator]

That's in 28. Right on. You know, what about Steph, Joe? You think Steph, Steph would do it in 28?

[Uncle Ocho]

I don't know if Steph want to do it. They had to coach Steph Steph's like, you know what? This was my. This was my swan song. You know, I got to do it with, you know, the guys that LeBron and K do, who I competed against, the lion, the bulk of my career, and to be able to do it with those three guys, I. I don't know. I don't. I mean, he could, but I don't know if he want to do it. I don't. Ain't nothing topping what they did, what they did in Parry Patty.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, no.

[Uncle Ocho]

They had to dig deep against Joker's team. Serbs.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

And they had to dig even deeper against the French playing on home court. I was with Go Bear and. And Wimby and. And what's the other guy name?

[Joe Johnson]

The big dude talking about that. He played for the.

[Uncle Ocho]

They got Yabaselli. Yeah. What's the guy he thought, uh,

[Joe Johnson]

Was he with the Knicks?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know that.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I know you're talking about. I think. I don't know if you're with them. I think they traded for.

[Uncle Ocho]

For something. For, For.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Hey, hey. Joe and unc. That, that last game where, Where USA won, where Steph had to hit those four. Those four threes to actually have a chance to win the game. Who was that?

[Uncle Ocho]

That was Fred.

[Co-host/Commentator]

That was against Frank. That was France.

[Joe Johnson]

I ain't gonna lie, Ocho. They had me scared a few games. I'm like, man, they were down. They were down.

[Uncle Ocho]

Well, they was down against Sudan. Remember? South Sudan had them down. Yeah, they blew the Serbs out, and then they was down by 15 against served with Jokic, and Bogdanovich was hitting shot, but playing out of their yin yang.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. But you know what, though? I, I, I do. I, I can see. I can see Steph playing. He got some.

[Uncle Ocho]

He.

[Joe Johnson]

It's some. It's some great guards ahead. Obviously, you know, we talking about the Cades. I can see him wanting to play with Cade. I can see Steph. I can see Steph.

[Uncle Ocho]

Well, hell, he was on the fence the last time, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

We only two years. We're only two years from. Yeah, I, I can, I can kind of see. I can see it, like, him being his.

[Uncle Ocho]

Like they last.

[Joe Johnson]

Hoorah.

[Uncle Ocho]

I can think about it, Joe. He waited until what, year 15, year 16 to even play this first Olympics, and now you want to play the second Olympics? You're 18.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, they'll make that.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, they'll make it worth it.

[Joe Johnson]

While.

[Co-host/Commentator]

I mean, he might. Listen, he might like that feeling, too. He might like that feeling of winning goal and wanting One, it all depends.

[Uncle Ocho]

The shoe. Because, you know, it was nice to be on the world stage. He had Under Armour. But the thing is, I'm sure somebody Nike or Adidas or somebody. Maybe he wants to do his own brand and put it on the big stage. But we got our work cut out for us. We got our work cut out for us because the French ain't playing Wimby. Wimby's only gonna get better.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, hello.

[Uncle Ocho]

Wimby's only gonna get better.

[Co-host/Commentator]

He nice boy.

[Joe Johnson]

And, hey, he gonna continue to figure it out. He is gonna be.

[Uncle Ocho]

He is.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, listen, he. It's like he a cheat code Uncle Ocho on offense, but he is a super cheat code on defense. Defense, because you could think you got a layup, man, that man come from way cross.

[Uncle Ocho]

How you go?

[Joe Johnson]

How you just.

[Uncle Ocho]

How you challenge the three point? The guy shot a three, you challenge that. The guy got the offside rebound and went to lay it up and you pinned it against the glass. How the hell you do all that?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, you can't teach that, bro.

[Uncle Ocho]

You can't teach that. Hell, no, you can't teach seven, four and a half, seven five, or however tall he is now.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, there you go.

[Uncle Ocho]

But the athletic moving like that, coordinated. Because a lot of times you saw guys, you see George Mirasada, you see Bobon, or you see Rudy Gobert, Bobo, or you see Mama Do Ninja, you see guys, that's successive. Chuck Nevi guy, that's 7, 4, 5, 6 on up there like that. They not coordinated. Like, this kid. This kid can handle the ball. This kid can put it on the floor. He can shoot the three.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Now, the bowl. Bowl was letting the threes go. Bobo hit that slingshot on him.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, but, hey, look, I mean,

[Uncle Ocho]

excuse me.

[Joe Johnson]

Manubo wouldn't be able to touch. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. The way. Look, the way. The way that he move, the way he dribbles, the way he pull up for his jump shots is just when I seen KD contest his jump shot and he wasn't nowhere near close to blocking. That's what we call that tall man jump shot. You ain't blocking that. You just gotta hope you miss.

[Uncle Ocho]

I mean, you can't, you know. Oh, Joe and Ocho, you know how the guy put the ball. Put the hand up in your face so you can't see the real. Can he? Put your hand up. I need a broom. Hey, give me a broom. Let me put my. Put this broom up in his eyes. I ain't Know where him blocking the damn shot. He already 7475. So when he jump, he shooting the ball at damn near 10ft.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Hey, hey, hey, Joe. And the only way to stop Wimy, obviously, you got to be somebody goddamn damn near physical, huh? Down there in the paint.

[Uncle Ocho]

A whole lot of time down there.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, it ain't. Yeah, it ain't. It ain't necessarily the paint. It's called doing your work early. Meaning, Ocho, if I'm guarding him, soon as he cross half court, I gotta have.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Cause I know he wanna. I know he want to try to get to. He want to try to get to the mid post area to where he can kind of get it size you up. So before he get to the mid post area, man, him gonna wrestle all the way to the mid post area. And by the time he catch it, I want him so tired that he gotta settle for a jump shot.

[Uncle Ocho]

He gonna get a good look.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah. So you gotta wear him down. You gotta wear him down. You do.

[Uncle Ocho]

But.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Oh, Wimby, we gotta.

[Uncle Ocho]

We the. The Americans, we got our work cut out for us. We got our work. The women. The women gonna breeze again. Man, I can't remember. I think the last.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, man, y' all watching?

[Uncle Ocho]

I think they might have lost in 92 or something. Maybe 92. I can't remember last time the women lost the Olympics. The goal in the Olympics.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, no, it ain't. They ain't even got no competition, Uncle Ocho. But have y' all watched the unrivaled league in Miami?

[Uncle Ocho]

You see my girl, Chelsea Gray? You see my girl a point? God.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, boy. Oh, listen, Ocho. The girls killing us guys when it comes to the basketball. The one on one scene.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Oh, I saw that. I saw that.

[Joe Johnson]

The one on one. King of the court.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, man, the unravel killing. They killing. Yeah. Shout out to Chelsea Grace. She won it from the.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, she got some games she play out here in the. In the Atlanta some league. I mean, one.

[Uncle Ocho]

Listen, playing one on one. The way she can handle the rock. You damn right. Cause if you can one on one, if you can handle the rock and you can shoot a little bit. Yeah, people gonna have to get up on you. But you see, ay, it wasn't like she was laying the ball up. She was killing that turnaround.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, listen, Ocho, she know how to

[Uncle Ocho]

use her body to gain space.

[Joe Johnson]

He get that little dribble, she may get that give you that little shoulder, that little pumpkin. Yeah, she get to that little Mid range. It was cash. Oh yeah. She pulled a lot out of her bag the other day when I was watching.

[Uncle Ocho]

Cause if you think about it her. Think about it, her and Jackie Young, they're on the same team now. I don't know if they. Once they get this CBA or get this thing, if they can keep them together. But if they gonna keep her and Asia and Jackie together, who beating them?

[Joe Johnson]

It's gonna be tough to beat them. It's tough to beat them in a series. The best team gonna pretty much always win.

[Uncle Ocho]

Who could. You can't do. First of all, you can't do nothing with that big lefty Adrian Wilson. Yeah, you can't do nothing with that. It's early still. She is the greatest woman's player in the history of the game. Yeah. You look at what she done four times, four MVPs. She easily could have won a fifth. They gave. Stewie won it. Congratulations. But she's been a defensive player of the year. She's led the league in scoring. She's led the league in block. She's led the league in rebounding. She's a three time. She's a three time champion. She's a two time finals mvp.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, the, the, the women's game is in a great space. Un oo. Oh yeah. AB they, they. They trending in the right direction. I really wanted to come down there to Miami and catch one of un unravel games. They look like a great scene, bro. Like the scene, the atmosphere. Like they doing a great job about that. Because that's a three on three full court. Like it ain't full court. They condense the court, make it smaller, but you still up and down. You know what I mean? Like that's, that's, that's, that's dope, bro. That's dope. I want to see.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, I thought it. So the last time the U. S. Women's basketball team lost the Olympic game was in the semifinals the 1992 in Barcelona. They were defeated by the unified team, formerly the Soviet Union by the score of 79. 73. So that's the last time that they've lost a. That might be the last time that they have lost the game in the Olympics.

[Joe Johnson]

You right. Hey look, we. We got the. We got the best.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, it ain't even close.

[Joe Johnson]

For sure.

[Uncle Ocho]

It's not even close.

[Joe Johnson]

Now they.

[Uncle Ocho]

You. The Australia used to have a good team with you. I don't know if you remember Lauren Jackson. She's a three time mvp.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah, I remember Lauren.

[Uncle Ocho]

She go but when you look, when you look at. We had Spoon and we had all the, we had all those that. They can't mess with us.

[Joe Johnson]

They can't. Nah, they can't.

[Uncle Ocho]

Nah, they not. Look, I understand, like, the, the men game is, is out. The men's game as far as around the world is outgrowing the women. But they, women not messing with us. They not.

[Joe Johnson]

Right. I agree.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah, they not.

[Joe Johnson]

It don't even be no game, bro. They be up 100 to 32. So I feel like, come on.

[Uncle Ocho]

I mean, you think about it. We, we, we got a big, I mean, we could throw Asia. We could throw Stewie. We got Chelsea Gray. Now, Chelsea was hurt last time she was coming off that serious ankle injury. So she was, she was not herself. She 100% healthy now. They got a nest school. They got. Oh, man, we loaded. We got this Call your b. Oh, yeah, we got this in the bag.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Joel Embiid.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, look.

[Uncle Ocho]

Joel Embiid say he would trade his MVP for one. One healthy pro season run. I would trade my MVP for one healthy postseason run because I think if I'm healthy, I'm dominant enough that I would carry us to win a championship.

[Co-host/Commentator]

I like that. I like that, Uncle Joe. I think, I think because Joel Embiid understands how great he is with, with my small and simple knowledge of basketball, of being able to watch him dominate me, being at that 70 point gain and watching him take that game over all four quarters. And he's had to deal with injury history for a very long time to the point where analysts and pundits have gotten on him about being healthy and having to play one game and sit and then play one game and sit. I think if he was healthy and had two good knees, he probably could do just that. So I, I, I understand what he's saying. He's probably frustrated. He probably frustrated himself.

[Joe Johnson]

Man, you, you gotta, you gotta want to help yourself too, Ocho, you know, you, you gotta, you know, if, you know, you got bad knees, man, you gotta take care of your health, keep that weight down, keep your body strong. Like you, you gotta take accountability for that part, man. But you know what I mean? Like, you come if you eat on your diet.

[Uncle Ocho]

He eating at McDonald's.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, like, you can't.

[Uncle Ocho]

That's your diet. You say that you eat McDonald's. Eat what got you there.

[Co-host/Commentator]

He don't.

[Uncle Ocho]

You said he don't.

[Co-host/Commentator]

I know he don't eat McDonald's, though.

[Uncle Ocho]

You didn't see him on the. Oh, you don't see you don't see him on the train. Okay, go ahead. That's okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Commentator]

I'm saying somebody that size had the chef.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay?

[Co-host/Commentator]

I mean, I would think so. Hey, Joe, didn't you have a chef?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I had a chef. But you still eat Zuzu's and win Whams Ocho. Just cause you got a chef, that don't mean.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Okay, okay.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't mean nothing. You know, you can't come into camp overweight, man. You know, we. We got a lot riding on you. We. Yeah, we on your back, big fella. But we, we need you to be in shape so you can.

[Uncle Ocho]

He came into the league with a bad back, remember? He missed the process. I mean, how many years did he miss before he even started? Cause he had the bad back. You came into the league hurt, what's the likelihood you come into a league hurt that you think you're gonna make it out and you gotta play 82 games. So basically you playing damn near every other night or every other other night, right? And you £300 running up and down the court.

[Joe Johnson]

And that's what. That's why I always, I always revert back to the training of what you do in the summer. You can't take the whole something off, bro, and then come in and now you playing every other day. Of course, in two months you're gonna be inflamed, your knees gonna be hurting, your back gonna be hurting. Cause you ain't been doing that in the summer, man, you gotta take care of yourself, keep your body strong. There's never an off season just cause you ain't playing. It ain't no off season. You still gotta stay locked in. You know what I mean?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yes.

[Co-host/Commentator]

You know what I think would be better too, Unc and Joe, if he wasn't hurt during the season. If you look at most most of the basketball players, they play basketball year round.

[Joe Johnson]

They have.

[Co-host/Commentator]

They have a little fun, maybe not go as hard, but they play basketball year round. I think if he wasn't hurt, I think he'd be able to keep his weight down if he was able to play basketball year round. But the fact that he's hurt during the season, when the off season comes, he has to sit down and rest,

[Uncle Ocho]

he has to rehab, he gonna get the trade.

[Joe Johnson]

That's his fault.

[Uncle Ocho]

Cause think about how hard we trained in the off season. And when we get out there to camp, we were still sore because that's not the training. We ain't starting and stopping like we do in training camp. We not think about it. We out there 2 a days, so I'm still sore. Even though I done ran my. I'm. I'm in phenomenal shape. When I say I'm talking about 220, 232. At 5% body fat, I'm talking about cuts everywhere. I mean, I'm shredded like a tax return. You know what I'm talking about, Ocho? That's what I'm shredding like that. Yeah, yeah. Like a Clinton email.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Just disappear. So I know how my knees and ankle felt, man, that third day. Yo, Joe.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Hey. So as hell.

[Uncle Ocho]

Hey, hey.

[Joe Johnson]

Gotta keep the body strong, bro. That's why, like, in the off season. Uncle Ocho, I always love staying in shape, bro.

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

You know what I mean? I just don't know why I always love staying in shape.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Hey, speak. Speaking of staying in shape, but what that. What that leg feeling like, yo?

[Joe Johnson]

Well, I told you. Hey, Ojo, I played volleyball today with my daughter. I took her to volleyball practice day.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And before practice started, like, the first 30 minutes, I get out there with the girls, we play volleyball, Ocho.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Boy, when I come down there to see you and me and you had

[Uncle Ocho]

this little one on one.

[Joe Johnson]

You don't tomorrow.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Hey, hey, hey. Give me a number, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Like.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Like what percentage. What percentage you at right now?

[iHeartRadio Announcer]

I'm.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm probably about. I'm about 75 right now.

[Co-host/Commentator]

That ain't gonna cut it.

[Joe Johnson]

75, 78. Yeah, yeah, that.

[Co-host/Commentator]

That definitely ain't gonna cut it, Joe. Hey, can I tell you what's gonna surprise you?

[Joe Johnson]

What's that?

[Co-host/Commentator]

You have the experience, huh? You played the game for a very long time, right? What I think is gonna surprise you in person is how fast and quick I still am. And I'm gonna fly by your ass

[Joe Johnson]

and be missing layups. That's the only thing.

[Co-host/Commentator]

That's all. That's all I'm gonna say.

[Joe Johnson]

I can see you missing layups and all. Kind of like I said, hey, Joe.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Honestly, Joe, I'm a competitor, Joe, and I. I really don't think so, Okay? I don't think so. I respect you. I know what you done. I don't watch it down here with the Heat. You know, I didn't. I didn't watch your whole career. You. You. Are you a Hall of Famer, Joe? But it's one thing about it. I stand on business, Joe. And I. I, you know, I. I ain't scared of nothing.

[Joe Johnson]

You're gonna have to show me, Ocho. Y' all know I'm gonna just be doing that for fun, because I don't get no stripes for killing you on the court, okay? I don't get no strikes for that. I don't get no strike, but I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it for the people, because I wear this crown and on the people's channel.

[Co-host/Commentator]

There you go.

[Uncle Ocho]

Give them what they want. See y'. All See what y' all created. I want y'.

[Co-host/Commentator]

All. The chat done created a monster.

[Uncle Ocho]

I just want y' all to know. Chat. Y' all are responsible. Joel's behavior.

[Co-host/Commentator]

I'm trying to.

[Uncle Ocho]

The chat is personally, directly responsible for Joe's behavior.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I got y', all. Chad. I promise I ain't gonna let y' all down. I wear this with dignity, integrity. I'm. I'mma wear it.

[Co-host/Commentator]

I.

[Joe Johnson]

Listen, I'm your guy.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Hey, Joe. What. What the hell you got on?

[Uncle Ocho]

I got.

[Joe Johnson]

I got. Hey, I got all my king stuff, man. What you mean, what I got on?

[Co-host/Commentator]

Oh, oh, so you purposely put that on to go with. To go with the crown?

[Uncle Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

What you thought this was?

[Uncle Ocho]

I told you. Looking like Joffy. Joe Farah coming to America.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Hey, boy, he's showing off. I don't. I don't know who he is.

[Joe Johnson]

Listen, listen. I got the message loud and clear last night. Okay, guys? Well, I heard y' all last night talking. See what I'm saying? All I need is a little bit. Okay? I see what they got going on. Okay. All right. I can't wait.

[Uncle Ocho]

Okay. Your day coming, Joe. Yo, your day coming.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

So I'm gonna do it for the people, Ocho. I don't get no strife for this, but it's all love.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Hey, any.

[Joe Johnson]

Any.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Anytime you beat me in anything, Joe. Hey, in life, I ain't lost much or nothing, Joe. I ain't really lost in life too much. So the fact you do get stripes, even though it's your sport. You dig us as much as I talk, you get strike for beat me. Now, you getting Frank for beating me as much as I talk trash, okay? And I'm telling you now, it ain't gonna be a walk in the park that you think it's gonna be, Joe, okay? Because I play basketball like we in the 80s. I'm letting you know right now.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Jake, Cause you talk loud and tough, it don't mean it's gonna get

[Co-host/Commentator]

you no points about it. Me acting tough, me talking tough, me being tough is on film, Joe. It's on film, Joe, okay? Remember what happened. Hey, hey, remember what happened to Bill Lambert?

[Joe Johnson]

What happened? Oh, you don't remember what happened to Bill Lambert?

[Co-host/Commentator]

Okay. You know how he played the game, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

How he played it?

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, you Bill Laimbeer, huh? You Bill Lambert?

[Co-host/Commentator]

Oh, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho]

Oh, yeah.

[Co-host/Commentator]

It's gonna be like the 80s 90s out there playing with me.

[Uncle Ocho]

Boy, Bill was so dirty.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Hey,

[Joe Johnson]

hey.

[Uncle Ocho]

With him, my horn and Robert and Sally, you couldn't imagine playing again. Markaguai, Isaiah.

[Joe Johnson]

They were gonna split you. They were gonna split you up for sure. Yeah.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Hey, yeah. See, I'm just giving you fair warning. As long as you know, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Okay.

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