Nightcap Hour 1: Carlos Ulberg STUNS Jiri Prochazka for UFC Light Heavyweight CHAMPIONSHIP + Paulo Costa BEATS Azamat Murzakanov + Josh Hokit BEST UFC HEAVYWEIGHT?! + Tyson Fury CALLS OUT Anthony Joshua

Summary

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Episode: Nightcap Hour 1 – Carlos Ulberg STUNS Jiri Prochazka for UFC Light Heavyweight CHAMPIONSHIP + Paulo Costa BEATS Azamat Murzakanov + Josh Hokit BEST UFC HEAVYWEIGHT?! + Tyson Fury CALLS OUT Anthony Joshua
Date: April 12, 2026
Hosts: Shannon "Unk" Sharpe & Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson

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Episode Overview

In this lively Nightcap recap, Shannon Sharpe (Unk) and Chad Ochocinco Johnson break down an electrically charged recent night of MMA and boxing action. The main focus is the UFC event featuring Carlos Ulberg’s shocking first-round KO over Jiri Prochazka for the Light Heavyweight title. The duo analyzes other major bouts—Paulo Costa’s statement win, Josh Hokit’s emerging star power—and the implications for future cards, including the anticipated "White House Card". They round out with spirited boxing chat, debating Tyson Fury's win and call-out of Anthony Joshua, and the state of the heavyweight division.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Carlos Ulberg's Shocking KO for the Championship

• Carlos Ulberg upset Jiri Prochazka in the first round by KO, despite suffering a visible leg injury early (05:00–06:00).
• Unk: “Uber is a UFC champion after overcoming an apparent leg injury...he buckled, and it kept buckling. I thought Yuri got, he got careless. He got reckless...and he got clipped.” (05:00)
• Ochocinco: “Everybody has a puncher’s chance and obviously that’s what happened. That was a really, really good fight tonight...now he's light heavyweight champion.” (06:48)
• Breakdown of unpredictability in UFC: “That’s the thing we love about UFC. It don’t take one, it don’t take much. You get clipped.” (05:56, Unk)
• Discussion on how little padding UFC gloves have – only four ounces – and the high risk of getting knocked out with just a few pounds of pressure (06:46, Chad).

2. Paulo Costa vs. Azamat Murzakanov ("Asmat")

• Costa wins by third round TKO, despite entering as underdog. Unk applauds Costa’s strategic strikes, landing repeated body kicks before faking and landing a high kick for the finish.
• Unk: “He kept getting them faints because he was kicking him in the ribs...every time he kept doing this, I said, man, fake like you going up, sure enough, gave him with the fake.” (07:39)
• Discussion of fighting injured: “It's like on the Serengeti, injured and old animals get eaten first.” (08:09, Unk)
• Chad: “You at a disadvantage if you hurt, huh? Especially any of your lower extremities...be able to move, be able to generate power.” (08:13)
• Recap later: “Maybe they need to stop making Costa the underdog. Maybe that’s the problem.” (26:17, Chad)

3. Josh Hokit – UFC Heavyweight Breakout

• Hokit defeats Curtis Blaydes in an action-packed slugfest; both took and delivered heaps of punishment (36:32–41:50).
• Ochocinco: “My favorite fight, that goddamn Josh Hokut...he backed up every last (word)...He kept the entertainment going. He might play himself into the villain role, but he can make his hay.” (10:24–10:49)
• Unk describes the brawl: “He had his face looking like a sloppy Joe, but he stood in there.” (07:04–07:13)
• Fight stats: 303 significant strikes landed (three rounds—one short of all-time record for five rounds), over 600 total strikes attempted; “They were letting it go...most exciting fight. Not very technical, but that was the most exciting fight.” (36:32–37:37, Chad)
• Hokit's post-fight comments: “He said his jaw hurt. I mean, he took some shots.” (42:41, Unk)
• Broader commentary on UFC: “I think this is why every event you go, every time UFC puts something on...they know people want action.” (08:35–08:45, Unk)
• The importance of skill diversity in MMA: "Most fighters have one or two things they're really, really good at...I don't think there are too many fighters that have the complete package." (09:53, Chad)

4. The "White House Card" and Jon Jones Absence

• Backstage news—Hokit vs. Derrick Lewis added to the June 14th White House Card, announced live during the event by Dana White, Joe Rogan, and even U.S. President Trump (12:28–13:41).
• Podcast Announcer: “President Trump built half of that fight, Rogan built the other half. Both guys have accepted. Pretty badass how that played out organically during the fight.” (13:15)
• Ongoing debate over Jon Jones returning: Unk explains UFC’s tough financial stance—Jon Jones “wanted over that [UFC's max offer]...When [Dana] says, this is the number we're going to, you ain't getting a penny more than that.” (14:03, Unk)
• Chad argues Jones has earned it as one of UFC’s greatest: “How do we not give him what he wants based on what he's done?” (14:18, Chad)
• Unk: “They brought a company for 2 million and sold it for 7 billion. Do you do that by giving somebody what they want? No, I give the fans what they want.” (14:30)

5. Notable Quotes & Colorful Commentary

• On fighting as an old man:
  • Unk: “No, hell no, I'm good. I got hit upside my head for 14 years [NFL]...No, that's too much going on, bro.” (26:58–27:33)
  • Ochocinco: “Just to be able to say I did it.” (27:09, Chad, re: wanting to try MMA)
• On Octagon mentality:
  • “They don't show no mercy… it's kill or be killed, period. Until the bell sounds or the referee says the fight is over.” (20:27, Unk & Ochocinco)
  • “That’s a different type of mentality… That ain’t my job to have mercy.” (21:17, Unk)
• On the emotional side of fighting:
  • Chad: “And you lose and your face look like that. I wonder how do they [wives/girlfriends] feel?...Does she look at you the same?” (48:38–49:00)
  • Unk recalls Deontay Wilder’s comments: “Once the Ls started piling up, you know, old lady, she didn’t look at him the same now, that’s what he said.” (49:00)
  • Unk: “I tip my hat off to the wives and girlfriends… I know it’s hard on family members...” (50:05)

6. Boxing Round-up: Tyson Fury, Joshua, Wilder

• Tyson Fury returns and dominates en route to a UD, then calls out Anthony Joshua (53:37–54:55).
• Chad recounts Joshua's response: “You not gonna dictate when I fight you. We're gonna do it the right way. I'm the A side.” (55:26–55:48)
• Unk advocates for a Fury–Joshua or Joshua–Wilder fight, noting both have “dynamite” but “suspect” chins.
• On Deontay Wilder vs Joshua: “That’s a dangerous fight, especially those first six rounds until Wilder gets tired. He has a puncher’s chance every time.” (58:25)
• Anthony Joshua’s quote to Fury: "You work for me." (59:31)
• On physique and athleticism: “Anthony Joshua is a big super heavyweight...abs everywhere, shoulders capped off. You better not be built like that and be sorry.” (63:05–63:34)

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Memorable Moments & Quotes

• “Like a duck on a June bug.” – Unk’s colorful metaphor for Ulberg’s finish (06:16)
• On KO power: “It only takes five pounds of pressure. If you get clipped, you going down.” – Chad (06:48)
• “This entire card was really, really good. I don’t think you’re gonna find anybody say, ‘Oh man, this card was bull jive.’” – Unk (11:05)
• “If I knock your ass out or I choke the hell out you, guess what, I ain’t got to worry about no judges at all.” – Unk (11:25)
• On trash talkers: “He might be the villain, or he’s gonna be a fan favorite. To some people, he’s annoying. To me, he’s selling himself.” – Chad (41:58)
• On fighting at an older age: “You trying to go in something you ain't never done and you want to do in your 40s...” – Unk (45:04)
• On Joshua–Fury: “You ain't got no belts… I'm the landlord. Remember that. You work for me.” – Chad quoting Joshua (59:31)
• On the ring walk: “Take off his robe, you’re like, God dang.” – Unk’s awe at Joshua’s physique (63:05)
• On the mental strength of fighters: “That's a different type of mentality… you got to have a different type of mentality going there. It ain't no mercy.” – Unk (21:17)

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Important Timestamps

• 05:00–07:00: Analysis of Ulberg vs Prochazka, Ulberg’s injury, unpredictability in UFC
• 07:38–08:35: Costa vs Murzakanov breakdown, fighting hurt, strategic feints
• 10:24–10:49, 36:32–41:50: Josh Hokit’s rise, “most exciting fight”, thoughts on showmanship
• 12:28–13:41: White House Card announcement, Hokit vs Derrick Lewis
• 14:00–15:35: Jon Jones contract standoff, UFC business philosophy
• 20:27, 21:17: “No mercy” mentality in MMA
• 26:17–26:49: Costa’s head kicks, enduring as an underdog
• 36:32–37:53, 42:25–44:18: Hokit vs Blaydes—fight stats, entertainment, and technical shortcomings
• 55:26–60:24: Fury–Joshua callout, Joshua’s alpha response, analysis of the heavyweight picture

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Closing Vibe & Takeaways

True to the Club Shay Shay brand, Shannon and Ocho bring humor, raw opinions, and firsthand experience to every breakdown. Their authentic, unfiltered take celebrates the violence, drama, and personalities that make combat sports compelling—from Ulberg’s championship moment to the infinite storylines in boxing’s heavyweight division. Whether you love knockouts or high-level strategy, their passion and banter make this a must-listen for fight fans.

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[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Hey, like a what?

[Co-host 'Unk']

Duck on a June bug.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Hey, listen, tonight I had the opportunity, obvious to attend to a, attend most of the fights. I was there for the early fights. I was there for most of, the, most of the main event. Obviously I had to get on the road to be back here at the house to, to watch the main event, but it was a good fight. I'm not sure exactly what, what makes me so scared when it comes to ufc. I don't know how much those gloves, they, they, they padded, right? Have you, have you ever seen the UFC gloves?

[Co-host 'Unk']

Yeah, they four, they're four ounce gloves.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Four ounce gloves or it only takes five pounds of pressure. If you get clipped, you going down and everybody has a punches chance and obviously that's what happened. That was a really, really good fight tonight. And I mean now, now he's like light heavyweight champion.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Yeah, that was a, that was a look all, I thought all the fights were really good tonight. Even the ones that went to decision. What was your favorite? They were, they were jam packed. You look at the blades fight. I don't know how Blaze stood up with some of the shots that he was taking. Whole kit hit him with everything. The kitchen sink, the refrigerator, the bathroom sink. Hey, hey. He threw everything at him, and he stayed up there. He had his face looking like a sloppy Joe, but he stood in there. I mean, so. But every. All the fights. We're going to talk about this. I think you saw this fight. Didn't you see. Were you there? The Paula Costa.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Yes, yes.

[Co-host 'Unk']

And as a matter of fact, I was talking to Ash on the phone at the time. I said, man, he keep getting them faints because he was kicking him in the ribs. And every time he kept doing this, I said, man, fake like you and go up top. Sure enough, gave him with the fake. But this was a. I thought. I thought Portugal. Portugal was going to get him. I really did. Especially because he injured. Oo, yeah. Yeah. I'm like, how you go? How you going to fight? The one thing you look. It's like on the Serengeti, injured at. Injured and old animals get eaten first.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Every time.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Every.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Every single time. And obviously, listen, you had a disadvantage if you hurt, huh? Yes. Especially any. Any your lower extremities.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Yes.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

That to be able to move, be

[Co-host 'Unk']

able to generate power. That's how you generate power. That's how you move.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Exactly, exactly. So, I mean, it's unfortunate. Hey, young bull. I don't know how. I don't. I don't want to butcher his last name, but he was hurt. He was hurt.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Yes.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Yeah, he was hurt.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Man, this. This is. I think this is why, people. This is why every event you go, every time the UFC puts something on, not not only because of the production, you know what you're gonna get.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Yeah.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Dana's made it very. I mean, look, you're not gonna be fighting all these decisions. Yeah, that's fine and good. The objective is to win. Well, you're gonna have to take that thing somewhere else, because they know people want action. Yeah. That's what they got tonight. This was one of the better cars. You know, they have the big name. You see Cub Swanson makes it. And he. He late.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Full board.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Oh, boy.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

That is one way if you're gonna retire. That's the way you want to go. That's the way you want to go out. That's the kind of fight.

[Co-host 'Unk']

No, that was beautiful.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

And he jumped on him out from

[Co-host 'Unk']

gate, out the gate.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

I knew it was gonna be a long night.

[Co-host 'Unk']

And that's what. Look, and the thing is, is that what makes USC ufc, because there's so many things you have to worry about.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Yeah.

[Co-host 'Unk']

You got to worry about A guy fist, his elbows, knees, his feet. You got a. A spinning back fist, a spinning elbow. You got to worry about a guy taking you to the mat. You got a guy a rear naked choke, a guillotine, a triangle armbar leg. I'm like, damn, bro, boxing. All I got to worry about is these. You can't do nothing else but throw these, man. You. Hey. And they'd be fainting. And you do this right, here come a head kick inside your head.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

And the funny thing that, to me, those that are very skilled, obviously all the attributes that you just named, most fighters have one or two things that they're really, really good at. They're really, really good at. I don't think there are too many fighters that they had the complete package of every single attribute when it comes to being inside that octagon. But, man, I haven't been to very many fights, but tonight was very, very exciting. It was very exciting. The energy in the Casilla, the Casia arena was unbelievable.

[Co-host 'Unk']

It'd be buzzing.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

It was crazy. My favorite fight, that goddamn Josh Hokut. I was hoping, with all the trash talk, all the antics, all the charisma, all the personality, I was hoping it would show up in the. In octagon.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Back it up.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

And he backed up every last. Kept. He kept flicking dude off.

[Co-host 'Unk']

I thought. I was like, hold on. Did I. Did he do that? Did I say no? Maybe. Maybe I just imagined that did it again. I said, oh, he kept. He kept doing it.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

He kept the entertainment going. So he. He would. To me, if. If he keeps this up and keeps winning, obviously some people aren't going to like it. He might, you know, play himself into the villain role, but he can. He. He can. He can make his hay and make his way. If he continues this and keeps on

[Co-host 'Unk']

winning, hey, I. I just. He keep on fighting like that, everybody's gonna love him. Because people love to see people fight when and when they come to a ufc. I mean, for whatever ufc, I think the expectation is somebody. Somebody touching the canvas.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Yeah.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Somebody's gonna win. And we ain't going to. You know, I don't want to put it in the judge's hand.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

No.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Because they might see it one way, one joy, see it another way. The fans see it somewhere else. I might have thought my corner might have thought I'd see Dad had it gang had it won. But, nah, if I knock your ass out or I choke the hell out you, I guess what, I ain't got to worry about no judges at all. Judges, throw your Cars in the trash because we don't need them. But, but this, this last fight, I mean, like I said, this entire car was really, really good. I. I don't think you're gonna find anybody say, oh, man, man, this car was bull job. You have to tell you. No, no, no, no. This was, this was. This is the type of card that you want, I hope 250 at the White House. I just hope it's a

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

White House card. I think it probably hasn't been announced, obviously. I think, I mean, it's been announced. The, the, the fights have been announced. I'm not sure. I don't think there's a White House card without Jon Jones on there. For some reason.

[Co-host 'Unk']

He ain't gonna be on there.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

You, you, you don't think so, uncle you.

[Co-host 'Unk']

No. They already announced the card.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

I know.

[Co-host 'Unk']

I think Hokit. I think Hokit and, and Derrick Lewis black beast got added to the car.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

For real?

[Co-host 'Unk']

Yeah, I think, I think. Because I think either Dana said something to the fake action was telling me that. Hey, hey, give me that. Dana sound. Take a listen to this chat.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Okay.

[Podcast Announcer]

The president just asked me why you're not on the card. Do you want to fight on the White House card? And he goes, of course I do. Tell the president, thank you. I want to do it. Then the Hoka card plays out. The fight plays out. He beats the number five ranked guy in the world. And Joe Rogan says, is there still room on the White House card? Went back and talked to him. Hokut vs Derrick Lewis was just added to the White House guard in the last 10 minutes.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Wow.

[Podcast Announcer]

President Trump built. Built half of that fight. Rogan built the other half. Both guys have accepted and agreed for the fight. So we're adding one more to the White House Hokuto vs Derrick Lewis. Pretty badass how that played out organically during the fight.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

That's dope. But you see what they just did. You see how they added to the card? Because they have the power to do so.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Yeah.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

For some reason, I don't know. As great as the White House card is with some great fights, adding Jon Jones to that card would do numbers. They're going to do numbers anyway. I'm just saying I'm not sure what differences Dana White and John Jones need to fix, but I think he needs to be on that White House card to make it complete.

[Co-host 'Unk']

To make. To my understanding that they had a number that they were willing to go to to get Jon Jones on that fight.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Yes.

[Co-host 'Unk']

And he wanted over that number. And and you. The one thing I. Listen, I've been around Dana a lot, yes. I've interviewed him and been around him. When he says, this is the number we're going to, right? You ain't getting a penny more than that. You're not.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

But hey, we talk about the greatest UFC fighter of all time, the only person. I mean, I mean, how do we not give him what he wants based on what he's done, based on his resume, based on the accolades?

[Co-host 'Unk']

They don't give anybody what they want. That's the whole purpose, right? They bought it. They brought a company. They bought a company for 2 million and sold it for 7 billion. Do you do that by giving somebody what they want? No, I give the fans what they want. The fans want action. The fans want fights. Now, the one thing you're gonna get that, well, Dana will do this. Dana will give you the best fights out there. You ain't ducking nobody.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

You can't, you can't.

[Co-host 'Unk']

There's no shit about. Because guess what? There's only one champion. It ain't no wbc. Wba, ib ib, you know, ib, ifb, whatever the case may be, right? Ring magazine, you got one champion, okay. You fighting? Ain't no. Well, I fight the wbc. I'm gonna try to unify the bill. It ain't but one bill, right? Ain't no unifying nothing. You fighting right. We like that. We like that. I, I thought, I thought, I thought John was going to be on Hell, I thought John was going to be on the. Cuz. We want some. Look, it's celebrating America's 200. 250th anniversary.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Yes.

[Co-host 'Unk']

You want some Americans, they own the fam card to win.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Yeah.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Hey, how are they gonna look at Hell, it's, it's, it's America's celebration. And they, they, we getting our ass kicked.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Yeah. Listen, I, I know, I know there was some indifference when it comes to the purse, but for, for some reason, I, I just, I just feel. What's the date for that card, matter of fact?

[Co-host 'Unk']

June 14th.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

How, how? Well, we we in March right now, right?

[Co-host 'Unk']

We're in April. You're about you about two months away.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Oh, you think Jon Jones is training? You think.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Hell, I don't even know who he would fight.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

I, I, I don't know. I don't know either. I just don't see how you can have the best, you know, even I just, just meet him halfway. If you can't get to, to what he wants, Meet him halfway. At least make it make sense for him to actually say no. Okay. If we can't get to the number I want, don't give, don't, don't send me a number that disrespectful based on who I am and what I've done.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Yeah, I don't know. Like I said, I just heard that. I don't know. It could be somebody put out some information, said we tried to make a number. It was a big number, as much money he's ever made. Yeah, he turned it down. So, hey, look, unless John, Unless I hear Jon Jones say it or, or I didn't hear, I didn't. It didn't come from Dana because Dana said Jon Jones was never going to be on the fight. And then Ariel Halloween said that, yeah, they had been negotiating and he, and, and John's, and even John said, well, if I was going to be on the fight, why were you negotiating with my, with my team? So I, I really don't know what the number was. Nobody ever said a number. Right. But look, I mean, they just said. But I think the thing you gotta understand, Ocho, adding, adding, adding two fighters that's gonna probably make 2, 300, 000 versus somebody wanting 25, 30, $40 million. See, therein lies the problem. And then who you gonna fight? Ain't nobody gonna say, well, oh, he making 30 million and you gonna pay me 2 million.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Right?

[Co-host 'Unk']

So now. So I, I don't know. I mean, hey, I'm gonna watch either way. Yeah, default card, I'm watching. If you're not on the card, I'm watching. Hey, what we do.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

But I'm excited. I, I enjoyed it. Kevin Holland, I watched, I was able to go see Kevin Holland backstage and talk with him for a little bit. I'm flying to Houston tomorrow morning and doing the, the Fury fights lower level level, lower level fights down in Houston. And Kevin, Kevin Holland and I we streaming tomorrow on Twitch, you know, around 3 o'. Clock. So that's going to be interesting. So I get to watch some, some, some of the fighting down out there. Some of, some of the fighters trying to get to the next level, trying to make it to the ufc. Okay, I'm a highlight. I'm a highlight. What they doing and in their journey in the process and what they go through mentally and physically, you know, as they prepare for those fights and trying to, to reach the ufc. That's what I call the promised land. So I'm excited. Hey, you get Guess who. I guess who I met tonight too, huh? Who? And, and and they, they, they also. You are one hell of a player, man.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Who you with, man?

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Hey, ass,

[Co-host 'Unk']

You can hear you,

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Man. Man, at 45th, man,

[Co-host 'Unk']

good deal.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

I asked him for a job too. Huh?

[Co-host 'Unk']

I thought, I thought President Trump was six two.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Nah, well, you gotta. I'm six four. Huh? So you know, he, he's short, man.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Stop. Yeah, I've met him before. I bet about a fight in. At Madison Square Garden many, many years ago. But that was a great fight. Uber, if you like. Heavyweight champion beating Yuri Portugal. Poor Chazka. The first round ko. I. I still don't know how he did it, because when they showed the replay, Ocho, man, that joker calf, man, I don't know if he tore his calf, if it was a key leaf, if it was. I don't know what it was, but I was like, well, I said, let me go ahead. I told last year, I said, let me go ahead and start changing because this body gonna be long. And I've been damn if I didn't hang up. He done clipped him and whoop.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

That's. That's all it take.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Oh, yeah, you get.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

You can't get.

[Co-host 'Unk']

You can't get reckless. You gotta stay on your. You gotta stay on your p's and Q's.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

You have to be disciplined. You got to be disciplined. And man, speaking of discipline, the two fighters that didn't have none at all and kept, I mean, face wide open when Josh Hoket and I can't remember young bull's name that he was fighting blades and Blaze, I mean, where's the damn defense? And you can hear, you can hear the punches. You can hit. Yeah, you can hit a punches land. I'm. I'm sitting close enough and you can hit a bone like the boat. I'm like, oh, man, come on, man. I mean, at least put your hands up and block something.

[Co-host 'Unk']

He was blocking it with his face. Ocho, you're was crying after telling Rogan that he showed Carlos mercy because he knew he had already won by injuring his leg. Man, I don't show no mercy.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Mercy. They don't.

[Co-host 'Unk']

They don't kill that with a sledgehammer.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

They don't do that in Octagon. They never show mercy. What are you talking about?

[Co-host 'Unk']

Is kill or be killed, period, Until.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Until the bail sounds or the referee said the fight is over. There's no such thing as mercy.

[Co-host 'Unk']

I ain't showing nobody no mercy. You look at them saying what they do. They, hey, it's killed you in the center, you in the serengeti. That's where you are, man. That's a man. You got to have a. A different type of mentality going there. It ain't no mercy. That ain't my job to have mercy.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Right, right, right.

[Co-host 'Unk']

The person, that man upstairs, he got mercy.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

That's. That's it.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Lord have mercy. What I'm about to do to him, he answered too. I'm finna show enough f him up every time.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

And the funny thing about it, the mentality to even be a fighter, the mentality you have to have to even get an octagon is killer be killed.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Yes.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

So I'm not sure why he even used that. Even use that excuse. Maybe in a sense of sportsmanship. Okay. He's hurt. You know what? All right, I'm. I'm a tail off a little bit.

[Co-host 'Unk']

No, I ain't telling nothing. I' ma tell off. Hey, I ain't gonna be day. I might not be dancing over you.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Right.

[Co-host 'Unk']

But I'm gonna finish your ass. Cause you see what happens when you let.

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[Co-host 'Unk']

Your guard down?

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Yeah, you get clipped.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Light heavyweight Paula Costa ASMAT Light heavyweight Paula Costa defeated Asmat by third round TKO. Costa knocked the former undefeated Muta Canov moves Mur Zakov in the 123 in the third round with the right head kick. Costa went on into the contest of betting underdog, but looked like the favorite. By round three. It was clear his opponent was gassed, possibly injured, and he was willing to sitting target for Costa's offense. It was cost a second straight win as an underdog. He defeated, he beat Roman in July of last year.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Listen, they got to keep, they need to stop making cost of the underdog. Maybe that's the problem.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Oh boy. But. Oh, oh boy was. He was pretty tough though, Ocho.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Yeah, he was, he was, he was nice.

[Co-host 'Unk']

But hey, man, them leg, hey, them head kicks, bro, he was. Hey, he's kicking him in the side.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Damn it. Damn near three in a row. It look, it looked like three in a row.

[Co-host 'Unk']

I was like, well, damn. And you see the thing is, and then when you, he tried, you thought he gonna kick you. And you do this now you bring your head right there for that foot to go upside it.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Hey, would you ever, would you ever get in there? Let's say if, if your body was. No, I'm just saying if your body was okay, no hip replacement, no knees, nothing wrong with you. Just for the experience.

[Co-host 'Unk']

No, I got hit upside by head for 14 years. And then another four in college, and then another four in high school. Yeah, and then another three and peewee. No, hell no, I'm good.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Hey, you know what? I, I, I, I would, I would. I mean, I, I think, I think I am, I think I am. I think it's gonna be fun. I'm gonna make sure I'm have some nightcap, nightcap trunks, nightclad nightcap on my gloves. It's gonna be, it's gonna be fun just to be able to say I did it.

[Co-host 'Unk']

No, I don't want to say I did it. I didn't do it. That's what I was saying.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Hey, just make, hey, just make sure you ringside, man. That's all.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Man, look here, you ain't you. I mean, look at Ocho, you in your 40s and you ain't did no combat training like that. Boxing is one thing. And you see even Blaze and other if Blaze could have took Blaze in the clinch. He don't do no kneeing. He couldn't keep the guy down. He took the guy down. He couldn't Keep. Get him to keep him down because he ain't got no wrestling skills. All he is is a striker. Nah, hell no. That's too much going on, bro. But this was. Hey, look, and like I said, the fights just got better and better because they started. Hey, they got better and better. They got better and better. I love. Hey, that's what I'm paying to see. That's what I'm paying. Even though it's free now on, On, On. On bus. That's what I want to see. I want to see knockouts. I don't want to see all that feeling out, all that dancing and holding and all that stuff. Choke him, make him call, make him say uncle or knock his ass. Smooth the F out. That's what I'm here for. I have no problem. That's why I have. I didn't have any problems paying for UFC fights, right, Because I'm, I'm. I think there's a better than 50 chance that somebody, of all the people on the car don't show. Somebody going to sleep that night.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

You're gonna get some action.

[Co-host 'Unk']

I'm gonna get some action no matter what. That's all I want. Hey, give me my, you know, 59, 79, or whatever I was playing for back then. Give me my money's worth. That's what I want. I don't want all that stuff. Them. They feeling each other out and, oh, you know, it's a. It's a. It's styles make fights. It's the sweet science. I don't want nothing sweet. I want it sour.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Ain't none of that. Ain't none of that in mma, boy.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Hell no. But you better. Hey, you better. Hey, you better be able to rap. But the thing is, Ocho, is that when you get. And a lot of this is that when you get tired. Yeah, you can't protect yourself. You can't keep your hands up. Your jaw drop. And so now you don't got that tension. Now, you still could get knocked out. When you got that teeth in. Yeah, you got that mouthpiece, and you bite down on it. But, boy, when that jaw get loose,

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

it's gonna be at your mouth, out your mouth. Yeah, that's how you know somebody's had. Once they not breathing out their nose.

[Co-host 'Unk']

It's five more minutes, mama. Then the referee ask you, hey, Jack rabbit with cowboy boots, back to sleep you go, Hey, but Carson did it 123 in round three. Head kick. And then he jumped on him. And that. Hey, he really get a chance. I Mean, he jumped up a little bit, but, oh, boy. Slide down. Oh, you see him? Oh, boy, slide. That's like, nah, this ain't for me. You got. You got me. This ain't for me. This ain't for me. Next time. Maybe next time. Maybe next time. But this one, this right here, you got this one, man.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Hey, and can I tell you something? Hey, chat. Chat. I'm sure y' all can hear me. I'm sure we have a lot of UFC fans in the chat, and I. I don't want. I don't want to say a name, Unc, but tonight, I was told one of our favorites, one of our favorites that we've all loved to see is fighting July 11th. He's coming. He's coming back to the ring. I, I, I don't. Just come on now. The greatest, the best charisma, the best marks.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Conor McGregor, man.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

No, hey, come on, man. July. July 11th.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Okay, I hope. Hey, I'll see him fight. Hey, I'm, I, I hopefully avoid getting taken down, though. We.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

We. His.

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He.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

He's. He's. He's a. He's a pure striker, Huh? A pure striker and a damn.

[Co-host 'Unk']

But what they. So how do I neutralize that? I take your ass down. You got to be able to get up, O. Yo, you can't spend. Do you know how much energy that zaps out of you with four minutes left in the round? You on your damn back, and you trying to get up when somebody get on you. What you always hear, get off me, man. Let me up. Nah, hell no. Get up. Get off me, man. Hey, you got to be able to get up, Ojo. You got to be able to wrestle. You got to. It's just. You just got to. I'm not saying you got to be. I'm not saying you got to be Jon Jones or Daniel Cromier. I'm not go. I'm not saying you got to be Khabib.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Khabib.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Yeah, but you got to have a. You got to have at least a high school level of God dang on wrestling.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Something.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Maybe. Maybe a. A college. Yeah, maybe a D2, D3 college. I'm not saying you got to be a world champion or gold medalist, but you got to have something, Ocho, because you got to be able to shut down when they try to take you down, and you gotta be able to get up.

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[Co-host 'Unk']

Nah, I'm just kidding.

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[Co-host 'Unk']

they keep you down the mat they just a bit of the stealing rounds. Heavyweight Josh Hokut defeated Curtis Blaze by unanimous decision. Hokey1 the most exciting and exciting fight in the division history. The unanimous decision over Blaze. The heavyweight fight was pure chaos as both flighters slugged it out for 15 violent minutes. Okay, damaged blades faced almost immediately with a combination in the open minutes, but Blaze refused to go away, storming back he hokit with heavy punches. Also, the two heavyweights combined for 303 significant strikes landed one short of the record set by Daniel Cramere and Stipe miocic in the five round fight in 2019. Now remember, that's a five round fight.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Yeah.

[Co-host 'Unk']

This was only three rounds. And they had one fewer significant strike. They also broke the record for total strikes attempted.611, eclipsing the 595 attempted by Tim Silva and Andrea Orlovsky in 2006.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Hey, they were letting it go to me that that was the most exciting fight. Not very technical, but that was the most exciting fight. A Blaze face on. I mean, I don't know how, if you could see it from tv, but I was. I was sitting like, come on, man. Now you gotta.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Like somebody don't catch up on him.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

And you got to go get stitched up. You need to get stitched up before you even leave the arena. Oh, man, that was bad.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Hey, but hey, might need to get it up though, Ocho.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

You think so?

[Co-host 'Unk']

You've been getting beat. He'd been getting the break beat off him.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Ah.

[Co-host 'Unk']

I mean. Oh, I mean, Ocho, he. I mean, damn near 30 seconds in the fight. He damn near praying.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

You got buckled early. He got buckled. He got buckled earlier. I don't know. I like. I like Josh, though. I just.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Oh, yeah, I like Josh. Listen, both of them were on fumes.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Yeah.

[Co-host 'Unk']

And they just wailing away. And because you so tired, Ocho, I don't really got that zap. That wasn't. Because if I had that zap. Yeah. Get you out of it. You ain't got no defense because everybody was hitting everybody with clean shots. And he standing. And they just standing right there in front of each other. And like I said, Blaze got him in the clinch. He ain't needing. He ain't trying. He can't. He don't know how to take him down.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

That's energy. Hey, but it was one with Blaze through a. Through a hook, and he missed. And that goddamn hook, it went like this. And looking at. Looking at the crowd.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Cause he missed it. Yeah, he telegraphed it. Y' all remember, bro, you threw that from Jacksonville. I saw that thing coming from Jacksonville, boy.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Hey, he's funny, man. He's. He's entertaining. He can he continue to sharpen up his tools and add a little. Add a little more to his toolbox. Because if I'm not mistaken, I think. I think Hoykin is a wrestler. You know, he's a wrestler, but he chose. Tonight, they chose to stand in and go toe to toe.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Yeah, he did. He did. But like I said, I thought blades there sometimes. He got him on the ground and he couldn't keep him on the ground. I mean, he. He really. You can tell he didn't really know what to do because he got him. He's. He's at the back, and then he goes to the side, bro. Trip him like they do and get in the guard and make him exert some energy to get you up off him. But you don't know how to get. You don't know how to take him down. You definitely didn't know how to keep him down. You're in the clinch, you don't need him. You don't do anything. You just. Bro, you're gonna let this man come out here. You gonna let this man get out of this because you. You had the advantage and gonna let him knock your ass out.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

But he almost put him. He won't put him down in that. In that first round.

[Co-host 'Unk']

I mean, just open him up. I just seemed like every time he. Damn. Hit him, he got. Got a new cut. I'm like, well, damn. Hey, check that bad glove. He might got bricks in his hands, you know, because every time he hit him, Ocho, like, I'm like, damn, look at Blade face. And it just. It was. It was swelling, and it's like he cut up in his eye and cut here and cut there and cut there. And I was like. But damn.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

I. I don't. I don't know.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Hey, that, man. I didn't look like the Elephant Man.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

That thing was nice. I. I don't see how you. I don't see how you can go to a fight like that. The energy in this. In the energy in the arena, you know, seeing the fighters go at it and how you don't want to get in there on who.

[Co-host 'Unk']

That's why I go. That's why when I go see, and I see how they look when they come out of there, and I see. I hear them. I hear them shots. I don't want nobody hitting me in my face like that.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Right? Hey, if they try, if they swing at you, all you gotta do is block that thing, huh?

[Co-host 'Unk']

Yeah.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Bring it here.

[Co-host 'Unk']

I'm have to go get the drum, get the draw for it, okay? Oh, man, no, man, that ain't for me. But, like, look, I mean, think about it. Even though this fight did not end in a knockout, Ocho.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Yeah.

[Co-host 'Unk']

The strikes. I mean, you see. You see all the significant strikes. 600 total strike, man, they damn near landed half of their damn significant strikes. That's crazy. Now you see why their face looked like it looked.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

The fact that nobody went down with the clean punches that they were they were getting hit with, and obviously, I think because they were tired and there was, There was, There was no umph on any of those punches, which is why nobody actually went down.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Yeah.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

But, hey, that, that was exciting, though. It was exciting. That goddamn hoik it, man. I'm. I'm hoping he can get. I don't know. Either he gonna be the villain or he's gonna be a fan favorite. It ain't gonna be nothing in between. To some people, he's annoying. To me, he's selling himself. He's marketing himself. And if he keep winning, I'm not saying he'll. He'll get to McGregor's level, because that's a whole nother. That's a completely different level of marketing, you know? But he gonna be all right, though. He gonna be all right.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Let's take a listen to what Hokut had to say from the back of the amulet.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Oh, driver,

[Co-host 'Unk']

What do you say? He was, he was laughing. Oh, he didn't say much. He said his jaw hurt. I mean, he took some shots. But if you go like, okay. You standing there like, okay, these two faults. Oh, the white guy won you. All you gotta do is look at baby blade face. You ain't got a question who won?

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Look at him, you know, And Blaze didn't talk any trash when he, when they Good when they did the panel. And I was, I was kind of confused, you know, Hoyka took over. He took over, did all the trash talking, you know, the rhymes and, and whatever it was he was saying. And for some reason, Blaze seemed like he was, he was just annoyed with it. And I would expect it for someone, you know, to fire back. He didn't, he didn't seem confident going into the fight. I, I, I, I, I, I don't know why.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Well, that might not be his. That might not be his style.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

No.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Try to go back. You don't want to get into. At the, at the end of the day. Yeah, be who you are. If you're not a talker, don't go, don't go back and forth with a guy that, that's what he does. He gonna get your head. And you out there trying to out talk him. You need to out fight him. Now, it had been a situation. Ocho, he won the fight. Now, he can come up with some rhymes and some riddles and have a lot to say, right? But you go in the rhyme and riddles, and now you look like you stuck your head in the beehive. Nah, nah, nah. But look, like I said, I was looking at this earlier. I was like, okay, look at Blaze. I said, okay, Blaze. I mean, you know, big old. But normally when you see a guy with all the muscles. Ocho.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Yeah.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Muscles require oxygen.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

And when you constantly moving, you gas out fast. You guys out fast. You see, I called out Izzy adesanya.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Call him out for what?

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Just to, you know, square up a little bit. Maybe, maybe two rounds, maybe three, depending on. Depending on how you feel. No, no.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Once you just go run somebody. Call some old. Some retired DBs out there and try to run some one on one routes on it.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Nah, because they are green.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Darryl Green like 65. Still running like four. Four.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

All right, then. No, I. I do. I do. Darryl Green in. In his prime.

[Co-host 'Unk']

I. I'm not saying that you couldn't, but I'm saying stick to that. You trying to go in something that you ain't never done and you want to do in your 40s.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

I, I. No, I know. That's. That's okay, because I didn't have opportunity to do it in my 30s and 20 because I was playing. So now I have.

[Co-host 'Unk']

You could have trained.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Hey, I just want to try just to be able to tell my kids, hey, baby, y' all seen daddy? Get in there. Hey, hold on. Hey, listen, now, listen. Daddy got his ass whooped, but that's not the fact. I still got it.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Now, they'll see be one that's helping you to the ambulance. Now, you ain't got to tell them. You won't have to tell them anything. Even French fries, though. Even French fried, though. Talking about my daddy getting toe up in the aim. Hey, friends about fresh. Probably gonna try to look up mama. Hey, boy. Daddy getting tore up. Eddie.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Mama.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Yeah. Yeah, he is, baby.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Man, it's so funny, right? It's so funny because obviously, you know, all them. All them boys know me. The funny thing about it is everybody I call out is people that I know personally. And Izzy and he in the comments, and he used to put the crying, laughing faces. I seen Kamara Usman. I seen Kamara Usman at the fight. And I forgot how I called him out a long time ago when I was doing something with Dana, and he said, well, since you here now, I mean, you. You want to square right here and get it on. I say no. I say no, man, I'm just here. I'm just here to watch the fights, man. Hey, I don't want no problems. I don't want no problems. Yeah. Oh, man. Hey.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Nah, nah.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Hey, that was funny. Hey, what'd you say

[Co-host 'Unk']

mama, Daddy getting tore up at me. Yeah, baby, he sure is. I don't know, I don't know what possess your daddy to get his ass in that red, but he won't be coming back, I promise you. But that, man, but, but you watching this fight early on I was like, oh, this ain't no way this thing going three rounds, cuz. He caught him like in the first 20 seconds.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Oh yeah.

[Co-host 'Unk']

And buckled him right off the rip. I'm like, well, damn, did you warm up in the back or you just came up this thing cold? Because you know they still, you know, they still, I mean, you still got to get warm. I understand. You know. Cause you getting there so early, you know what I'm saying? You getting there so early because you don't know. I mean, you gotta schedule time. It could get moved up, it could get moved back according. If the fight in earlier, the fights goes to the distance. But you know, you're in the back, you getting, you know, you're getting loose, you're getting, you know, going through some. Doing some shadow boxing, probably hitting the pads a little bit.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Yeah.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Probably simulating some takedowns and stuff like that. But man, I'm like, bro, you walk right out there and just walk right into the combo. But that was, it was, it was, it was definitely a jam packed fight. A jam action packed fight. Yeah. With some heavy punches landed. I don't know how Blades did not go down. I don't know how he survived three rounds with that type of punishment. But Hokey, Hokey took some punishment too now.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Oh yeah, absolutely.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Punishment too. But I just don't think the punishment that, that he took from Blades was not what Blades took from him.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Completely different. Especially with the way his face look on.

[Co-host 'Unk']

I say, boy, man, yo, I gotta go get the drum.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

You know, it's funny, I think about it, especially if you're married, you have a girlfriend.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Yeah.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

And, and you lose, and you lose and your face look like that. I wonder how do they feel? And I know they want to support you in, in all that you do, especially, you know, being a wife, being a girlfriend. Yeah, it's tough on them, I'm just saying. But when you get your ass whooped like that and, and your girl is there ringside to see you get your ass whipped up. She's at home watching. And you get whooped like that, does she look at you the same?

[Co-host 'Unk']

Well, you remember Dante Wilder say when he started catching L, you know, old lady, she didn't look at him the same now, that's what he said. I don't know if it's true. He said once he started, the L started piling up.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Right.

[Co-host 'Unk']

You know, all of a sudden. So I, I just think it's hard. I. It's hard. Anybody that you, that you, that you care about anybody, right. Let's just say for the sake of our. I was close friends. Let's just say a boxer was close. I was as close to a boxer or UFC fighter as I was bucket and burns.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Right.

[Co-host 'Unk']

To see them go, yeah, that would bother me. I'll be hurt. Even though I understand that's a part of their job, that's a part of it. It still would bother me. So you could imagine a spouse or a mom. I mean, sometimes that's why moms don't come. Hell, your mom cringing and oh, oh, I can't watch this. And you getting tackled.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Yeah.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Imagine you getting kicked and hitting your face. Or you get. Are you getting choked out? You gotta tap. You gotta say uncle. Hell no. That'd be down. I don't know. Hey, I killed my hat off to the wives and girlfriends. Significant others.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Yeah.

[Co-host 'Unk']

That go and watch their significant other because I. I know, hey, it's hard on, you know, family members when you watch a sport, especially, you know, sports that you can get injured in. I mean, you can get injured in any sport, but you know, the likelihood of the sports like MMA and boxing and football, they have a higher degree of potential injury than other sports, I guess, bull riding, things of that nature. But nah. Light heavyweight Dominic Re defeated Johnny Walker by split decision. Probably the worst fight of the night. Ray Reyes recorded his first win in nearly a year. Although the results likely won't do much for his stock in the division or the UFC fan base. The three round bout was difficult to score. It even more difficult to watch as both fighters played extremely safe. Despite urgent from their own corners and crowd. Reyes outpointed Walker on the judges scorecard. 29, 28, 29, 28 and 28, 29.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

It was all booze, huh? Yeah, that whole fight and inside that arena, it was all booze.

[Co-host 'Unk']

I'm trying to figure out what happened. Dominic Reyes gave Jon Jones his toughest fight ever. Many believe Reyes beat Jones. He has not shown that form since. Now, I don't know if that was the falling star Ocho. That was his one time. That was the song in the March Madness. One shining moment.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Right.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Maybe that was his one shining moment. But the guy that I saw, fault Jon Jones would have ran through Johnny Walker.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Johnny Walker Blue and Johnny Walker Black.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

I don't know what was wrong with him. I'm not sure why they were both being so cautious. Obviously, when you sign up, you signing up to fight. And they did the exact opposite. For three rounds, it did the exact opposite. Nobody wanted to take a chance. They damn near. They damn didn't want to damn near. Nobody really threw any punches. No, not anything goddamn effective.

[Co-host 'Unk']

And that's the thing. Like I said, Ocho, I. I watched that fight, and I was like, damn, man. He just joke of giving Jon Jones all he can handle.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Yeah.

[Co-host 'Unk']

And I haven't seen. I haven't seen a fight like that since.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Well, maybe. You know what? Maybe he looked the way he did because Jon Jones had an off night. Maybe that night that mean that, that day. Because obviously, if you're going to give Jon Jones all he can handle, and then you look like you look tonight. Something ain't right. Something ain't right.

[Co-host 'Unk']

But he hadn't looked like that since, though.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Oh, even before. Even before this fight.

[Co-host 'Unk']

No, he. He. I. I haven't seen him look that good. Now, maybe. Maybe. Maybe his fan base or maybe. But I have. I don't think he's looked. He hasn't looked as good as what he looked that night. He looked like one of the greatest UFC fighters in that division in the history. That's how good he looked that night.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Yeah.

[Co-host 'Unk']

And then I'm like, damn. Now, granted, he's a little older, a lot older. I don't remember when this fight happened. I mean, maybe it was. I don't even remember this fight happened. I remember watching it, but I don't know exactly what year it was. So he's probably. He's older now, right? 37, 38 years of age, but, man, I'm like, damn. And like you said, Ocho, that was. I mean, the fights were going good, and then y' all come out here

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

with this bull drive, straight booze the whole fight.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Yeah, y' all gotta do something. Hey, and plus, it's getting late, and people like, hey, hey, they underseat. They looking for a reason to cheer. They probably had, you know, got a couple of beers in them, you know, a couple of cocktails in them. They, hey, they ready. They ready to erupt. And then I gotta. I got to encourage you to. I got to encourage you guys, like, come on, let's get it on. Nah, man. Ain't gonna be happy with that. Tyson Fury wins his rings back and domination. And he calls out to Joshua after the fight. Fury Took off, shook off some ring rusty on his comeback to earn a unanimous point. A unanimous decision and potentially set up a long way to clash with Anthony Joshua in the return winning ways. Fury following back to back point losses in world title fights to Alexander Usyk in his previous two appearances. After the first win in England since the WBC title against Derek Teresa. December 22, December of 2022, Furry turned his attention to Joshua. Furry is urging his compatriot to fight him next rather than WBC champion Dante Deontay Wilder, who recently beat fella Jersey on points. What'd you think, Ocho? Do you like the way Fury looked tonight?

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Yeah, I like the way he looked. It took, it took him a little bit to get going, huh? It took a little bit and he didn't get going really until maybe round three. Around four, you can see his. Him get a little bit more comfortable. Yes, he had had to shake that ring rust off. No matter how much you train, no matter how much you do in the gym, you can't get back to yourself unless you fight. So yes, tonight, I mean he looked good. Obviously calling, calling Joshua out, but obviously I think Joshua now at this point is the A side. And Joshua said right to his face, you not gonna dictate when I fight you. You're not gonna come in here after, after taking a year and six months off with it, whatever it is, and say, do I want to fight you? We're gonna do it the right way. I'm the A side. I let you know when I'm ready to fight. And obviously Joshua said, listen, I beat you up when we were little and I beat you up now. And I've never been scared to get in the ring with anybody. But I'll let you know when I'm ready.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Yeah, I agree. I, I think the thing is that, hey, Anthony Johnson said, well, I wasn't, you know, I won 10, 15, $20 million and I fought a guy that didn't have any business in the ring with me, but I took him to school. So I'm good right now.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Yeah.

[Co-host 'Unk']

But, but me personally, I would like to see Deontay Wilder and Anthony Joshua. Both of them have dynamite now and both of them had chance are a little suspect.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Yeah. Wait, so, so would you consider. Well, hold on now, hold on. But that, that, no, I'm not sure. Would it still be a mega fight even though Deontay Wilder is still had. Still has losses?

[Co-host 'Unk']

Yeah, Fury have losses. Fury ain't got no belt. I don't think none of them got no Belt.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Right.

[Co-host 'Unk']

But it's just Ocho, you know, it's just something about people with dynamite in the hand. Big part. Yes, we like to see that.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

So you don't want, you don't you, you don't like the, the, the, the watching.

[Co-host 'Unk']

If you fight Tyson Fury, I, hey, today I thought Tyson Fury, we know he got caught with some shots. Yeah, you know he tried to throw, he tried to throw the uppercut from distance and the dude catching with the overhand right quick. He leaving his jab out there too long to do. Catching with overhand right. He getting reckless and dude catch him with a check hook. Look, so there, there are some things that Anthony Joshua could take advantage of. Absolutely. But like you said, the guy's been away from the guy, what is it, 16, 17 months that he hadn't fought Ocho.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Co-host 'Unk']

So when you, like you said, when you take that long off, you know, hey, sparring is one thing. You need to be in the ring against another guy and with no headgear and, and to feel that rush.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Right.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Of 60, 70, 80, 000 people watching you not in the room. When you got a couple, you know, 35, 40 people in the ring and you sparring, that's a whole different scenario.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Right.

[Co-host 'Unk']

So yeah, I thought he, I thought he looked good, but like you said, I thought there were some times that he looked really like, okay, he looks like a guy that took time off.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Yeah.

[Co-host 'Unk']

And the mistakes is, you know, hey, he's backing straight up, man. You know, you can't back straight up.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Get that gear. You got a one either left, the left or to the right. Yeah, get that head off the line. I, I think, I think, I think Joshua probably want a tune up fight before he gets in there with, with, with Fury. I'm really don't consider what he did with Jake Paul as a tune up. I know have someone else that. No, no. To get in there, move around.

[Co-host 'Unk']

He's looking at Deontay as a tune up.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

You think so?

[Co-host 'Unk']

That's what he said, man.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Hey, if, come on now, now when

[Co-host 'Unk']

we talk about, hey, find that quote. Hey, he said, he said a warm up. He said, yeah, I use you as a warm up fight.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

That, that's a dangerous fight, huh? That's a dangerous fight. Especially those first six rounds until Wilder gets tired. He has a punches chance every time. And even if you block, there's a chance you can still get knocked out with wildest power.

[Co-host 'Unk']

But you do realize Anthony Joshua got power too. Yeah, yeah, you're right too. And the thing is, like I said, both of those guys. Chin. Are susceptible.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Suspect. Yeah.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Yes.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Yeah. And you know what? The better, the better pure boxer in Joshua.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Joshua.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Joshua gold medalist. Yeah.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Yeah. Deontay is. I think he won the bronze medal. Okay. Yes, but I mean, the way he can sit up punches. See, I think the thing is for me is that Deontay Wild is really trying to land one punch. He's trying to land. He's trying to land that overhand right now. Can it. Can he turn the light side of the building?

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Yes, absolutely.

[Co-host 'Unk']

He can. He can short circuit you. You start. Are you free? Joshua responded. Tyson, you are a clout chaser. I've never had a problem getting in the ring with you. I punched you when you were kids. After watching you tonight, I'll do it again. I'll see you in the ring in due time. You won't tell me what to do. When you're ready. When you're ready. You tell me your conditions and I'll tell you when I'm ready. I'm the landlord. Remember that. You work for me.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

So basically just letting them know I'm the A side.

[Co-host 'Unk']

You don't control nothing anymore. When you had the belts. You ain't got no belts. You ain't got no belts. You see? Got the belts. So how you figure? How you can dictate what you think? I'm gonna fight on your terms.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Not. Not at all. Hey, and Turkey got to make it make sense too, now.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Yeah, for sure.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Turkey got to make. Make it make sense. And he has. He has the d. He has the pockets to do so.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Yeah.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

It won't be no excuses.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Like they said in Captain Phillips, Irish, look at me. Irish, you remember Captain.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

You remember Captain Phillips.

[Co-host 'Unk']

I do live for Captain Phillips.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

That was a good movie, boy.

[Co-host 'Unk']

It was.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Oh, Tom Hanks.

[Co-host 'Unk']

As a matter of fact, those guys, I thought they was really good. I think. I think they went back. I think they're from Minnesota. I think they're back. Record. Working regular jobs. Don't.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Yo, for real.

[Co-host 'Unk']

I think so. Damn. I think so.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

I. I don't. I don't want to. I don't want to confuse the race or ethnicity. Not Somali.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Somali.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Okay. Okay. Oh, yeah. Okay.

[Co-host 'Unk']

So, Molly. Yep. But look, like you said, Ocho, I. I thought. I thought. Given the time that he had been off, I thought he did some good thing. The other guy, he. His conditioning. And look, you have to understand, big guys, heavyweights, I mean, that's a. That's a lot of moving for a guy 230, 240, 250, whatever the guy weighed. And then the damn man get you some, man. He had on gauchos out there down past the Babe get wet. You know how heavy they are. Yeah, but he was tired. And like I said, even though he was tired, he caught

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Tyson.

[Co-host 'Unk']

He called Fury with a couple of shots, overhands. Caught him with a couple of checks. You saw he had a, a, fewer, had a couple of shiners going on. But nah, man,

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

look, hey, you know, if Fury to be as big as he is, he has really, really good movement.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

For a guy his size, footwork to be that big. I mean, he, he look a little, no disrespect, he, he's, he looks a little, a little sloppy. Excuse my, excuse me. Yeah, he just looks, he feel like

[Co-host 'Unk']

a garment bag straight down.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Hey, but his footwork, man, and his movement to be that big is, is, is, is nice. It's nice. Now there's only one person that's a heavyweight who's moving and footwork and, and, and, and ring IQ is better than him, and that's Usyk. Yeah, but you suck.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Ain't that big of a man though. Nobody's six, I thought fury six, eight, six, nine. Like 250, 260, 270. But I think the thing is, if people look at it, it's not a put together 260, 2, 70, it's all over the place. But, but I mean, hey, he flicking that jab out there, but like I said, he get careless sometimes. He get lazy with it and he was getting caught.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Yeah.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Question is, he flicked that jab get lazy with Joshua. Joshua fired something back. He's short circuit.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Hey, quick, quickly, in a hurry.

[Co-host 'Unk']

So hey, I, I, I'm definitely gonna watch the fight. Like I said, Anthony Joshua is a big super heavyweight. I mean, he looked the part. You see, hey, you see him, he take out, he take off his robe, you're like, God dang. Yeah, you better be able to do something built up like that. Abs everywhere, shoulders capped off.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Yeah, just better.

[Co-host 'Unk']

You, boy, you better not be built like that and be sorry.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Yeah, it's a big boy, man, he

[Co-host 'Unk']

is, people don't realize what he's like 6, 5, 6, 6, probably about 6,

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

4,

[Co-host 'Unk']

but he chiseled. Now that's one thing you can say about him. He comes to fight, he comes in shape.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Oh yeah.

[Co-host 'Unk']

That's why I admire guys like, well, you know, you know, this was a tough training camp. No, he comes, he comes in shape, he come to Fight. Now, sometimes you get it, you know, get it handed to him. But hey, in the fight game, that's gonna happen because the mother guys are really good, too. Joshua, 36 years of age. He's 6' 6, 245. God damn, Billy. See, he Miles Garrett. Miles Garrett play football.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

He box basically. Well, Miles about six, five, huh?

[Co-host 'Unk']

Yeah, six like six, four, two, seven, zero. Just like Anthony Joshua. Man, that shouldn't be that big, shouldn't be that agile, shouldn't be that quick,

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

built like that, can move like that.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Yeah, but he's one of the few players that looks like Tarzan and play like Tarzan. There have been a lot of guys that look like Tarzan and play like James. Hey, nah, bro.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Co-host 'Unk']

But no, I. I definitely. I. I like that. I like. Bro, you ain't gonna call no shots. You ain't gonna call no shots over here, I tell you.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

And that's. That's another one that's very charismatic and has great personality and can sell a fight. They got damn Tyson Fury, boy, he know he could sell a fight.

[Co-host 'Unk']

I think I. I think it's what he says. The ax says, like, you know, hey, I beat you. I have. Was hungover. I've been drinking pints. I was, you know, they. They call it pints over there. Over there. But no, no, hey, he impressed me. I mean, what he. Like I said, when he got up. When he got up off the canvas and whip wild his ass, because I didn't think he was gonna get up on Joe.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

I did. I'm not sure what the ref was doing. The ref started that goddamn count late. To be. To be honest, it should. It should have been at 10, because he laid there for like, three, damn near two, three seconds, and the ref hadn't even started yet. I'm like, man, what are you. What are you waiting on?

[Co-host 'Unk']

Tony hit. Soon as he hit the floor, you point to the guy, you start counting. One, two. But he got up there and. And went to work. So give him credit. That fight's gonna happen. Who is Usyk fighting next? Does he have an opponent? Is he fighting anytime soon?

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

I'm not sure. Well, he know he good. Hey, Usyk move and box like a damn light heavyweight.

[Co-host 'Unk']

Like a cruiserweight? Yeah, light, heavy.

[Chad 'Ochocinco' Johnson]

He got real good movement, man. Combinations, punching off angles. Yeah, he's nice.

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