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I Ocho, Mario Crystal Ball and his Miami Hurricanes are headed to the national championship thanks to a 3,127 victory over the Ole Miss Rebs. Ocho, I'm surprised how the game was this close. Yes, when you possess the ball almost 42 minutes. The other team have it for less than 19 minutes. Yes, you have the you 13 of 21 on third and fourth down. And you have to hold on for your life. The Canes dropped so many interceptions. Ocho 4.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Cause remember they dropped that one right before the half. Ocho, they gotta got a kick.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Okay.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
They had one to do. He bobbled it.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Then he bob.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Well, I think you gonna catch it. I'll let you catch it. Then he bought it, hit the ground and then the dude bobble one. Ocho, this thing is pretty.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yeah.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Other DB pops it up in there. He right there to pick it up.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
It went right through his hands. Huh.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
But the Canes are headed to the national championship game. 3127 over the ole Miss Rebs. A very, very good ball game. I can see why people like Carson back and then you can see why he has his critics because oo he was a mailing. That game shouldn't have been that close. He got Tony Hughes split the seams on cover to go ahead. I'm going let you talk. Go ahead. Tell me what you thought. What did you like about what you saw from the U?
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Listen, what I like from the U. Obviously it was the offense. Huh? It was the offense. Defensively, I would have loved for him to add a little bit more pressure on. On Chambers, but he was able to sit back there comfortably un. And. And deliver. I mean, Chan chambliss was what, 20, 23 for 37. He had. He had one TD for, you know, for 277. I didn't. I thought this game would have been won because of that goddamn front. That front four. That front four. They weren't able to get home and. And disrupt Ole Miss the way I thought they would have. Obviously Lacy got loose. Lacy got loose early. Early in the. In. I think it was the first half. He. He got loose. Loose on a big one. They kind of kept him in check after that. But this game was won by Carson Beck.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Even.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Even though he will have his critics because of what he was able to do tonight and make some of throws he. That he did make that were completed. He missed some that could have. That could have blew this game out.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
The water wide open.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Blew his game completely out the water. He gonna look at film. They gonna go back. If they're playing a better team, honestly, if they're playing a better team offensively, they lose this game because you had to fight for your life, you know.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
And you shouldn't have not when you possess the ball like they possessed it. They had the ball for over 41 minutes.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Not that. Not that much. And also some of them interceptions, some of those intercessions that they should have had.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Yeah.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Hoping if they got the ball back, they could have turned those into points.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Yeah, it was. You look at the game early on, you know, he got Tony. Tony splits the seam. He throws it up the rail like he's going to throw him into the corner. No keeping front side. You see Tony's looking for it like this, and he. He throws him like that. He's like, bro, what are you doing?
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yeah.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
I mean, he throws one. He got the guy wide open in the flat. He el. El males it on the. On the last drive. And then you looking at some of the throws that he's missing, and you're like, bro, they talking about you a top quarterback. And then you watch him on the last drive on the throws that he completed. I mean, he's. I mean, Malachi, Tony saved him. I don't. I still don't know how he caught the ball back here and still got a foot. I don't know how.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
You know. You know what? For some reason, they did.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
They.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
They call that play out. I'm not sure why. Because the toe touched down.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Because his. His heel is the ball of his hit first.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
You think so?
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
It did. Did you think. Did you think it, like, hit the ball of his foot? Hit And Dennis.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
I thought. I thought. To me, when I was watching, when I saw the replay, Unc, I thought it's toe touch first, and obviously the heel has to follow once the toe.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Yes, that's what I'm saying. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I agree. Yes. Yes. I thought it was a completed. I thought it was a completed play.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
I thought so. I. I was tripping. I was tripping because the toaster.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
No, you weren't tripping.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
But. But listen, it wasn't complete. But Malachi, Tony tonight, you know, down here in Miami, we call him Baby Jesus. That's. That's his nickname. And boy, he was every. Every. Every bit of that tonight. He was special. He's a special player. He being able to do some of the things that he done. The screen pass he took to the house, be a. Having the vision to be able to maneuver through traffic.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Yeah.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
And get in the end zone, man. Goddamn brother Fletcher, he toted that ball tonight.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
You can tell, because he won't listen to me. Tell him you can't jump cut when you got your cleats fatted because it's Too much if there's no. There's no. There's no traction underneath. Because when you slip on that wet grass.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yeah.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Your feet going out for money coming.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Right in front of you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
But it was an unbelievable game. Look, the Malachi Tony play was sensational. Keelan, I'm watching it in real time.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Marion. Marion.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Marion, yeah. Ocho, help me understand this.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Talk to me.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
The DB has Marion, man. He's got a man. He's trying to feel for him, but he's trying to look at Carson back, Marion turn wheels and goes up, and then he's like, start chasing him, bro, you got him, man.
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Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
You. You cannot clue that far down the field.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
No, you can't.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
I'm looking at some of these guys, I'm like, bro, I know Damn well your DB coach ain't teaching that technique. No. You 30 yards down the field and you looking in the backfield when you got this, man, man.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yeah. And I think I know you talk about. You talk about the DB from Ole Miss. I think it's last year.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Yes, yes. When. When. When Marion roll, he turns it up. He catches it. He has a man. Because he starts on, like, an end route. He. Yeah, but he's feeling for it, and then he turns it up. He looking in the backfield like, what can you do for. I just want to know if the quarterback got the ball and you 20 yards down the field. Tell me how. What. How do you impact the quarterback? You can't sack him.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
No, nothing. Nothing at all. But obviously wanting to see and get. And get a. Get a hint on when the ball is coming out. Is that number 32? Was that Grave Junior on that play?
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
I forget who it was. It might have been Ocho. Or was it 6?
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
I'm not sure what it was, but obviously, one of the players that stuck out to me on the Ole Miss defense, even though they lost the game at DB was that young bull.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
He.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
What? He was number 32, Gray Jr. Hey, he gonna be a hell of a player. You hear me? Hey, he's gonna be a.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Hell, no, dude. You're right. It might have been Grave Junior.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
It was.
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Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Yeah. Who was it? Who was it that. That got beat on. On that. That. That broken play where Beck rolls out of pocket? I like T.J. daughtery, too. Number six. Oh, yeah.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
He nice.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Number six. I don't know if he. What they call a rover or he a mic or will or stuff. I don't know what he is.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yeah.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
All I know, he can play.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yeah. Yeah.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
He can play Ojo.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
They got a good. They got a good defense. Grave Junior stuck out to me on film to the point where I had to tweet, well, God damn. Is he running the routes? I mean, does he know the guy. He's running the routes for Most of the DBs in the game, and obviously he had. He had. He had a PI. But he made some really, really great plays in man to man out there. So, I mean, that. That. That's. That's some credit to him. Even though they did lose the game, this was. That's one of the better fourth quarters in college football I've seen in a very long time. It is in a very, very long time.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Overall, it was. It was. It was. Look, the stakes are really, really high.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yes, sir.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Everybody. Some. But somebody knows their seasons in, and it's ending one game before the ultimate goal, which is getting to the national championship and win it. So that's what hurts the most. Because. Because you're one step away, and somebody knows that dream is ending tonight.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yes.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
And so maybe you're a little tentative. Maybe you. Hey, look. Okay. Hey, let's feel our way into it. I thought Miami was doing good going down the field. End up having to sell. I don't know what the guard. Right guard. How many times you going to fall? Start. They told you in the huddle. They in the huddle. Hey, don't move. Ready? Break. Right, bro. Where you going? And then the next play, the ball gets tipped and it's intercepted. Yeah, it's the light. Like I said, O.C. that's why me. I. I couldn't do it. Did you not. Let me ask you a question. Did you know the snap count? Did he not tell you? Because everybody else knew it.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yeah.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Boy. This was a game. Ocho. I'm looking at Ole Miss. I. I don't know how old Miss made it this close because they. Look at this, I'm gonna see something. Oo Because I think they had like. I think the u had like, 90 plays.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yeah.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
To like, 40 something. Maybe 50.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Hold on.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
51 rush attempts to 21 rush attempts. So 37 and 51. That's 88. 60. 28 more plays. 42. The. You had the ball 41 minutes and 22 seconds. Ole miss had the ball 18 minutes and 38 seconds. And for. And for the game to be as close as it was, when you dominate time of possession, you're cra. You're crazy efficient on third and fourth down. And for you to basically, you know, need a. A hail Mary to fall incomplete. You let a team hang around. Now, you, you got away with this one, but I'm not so sure the next team that you play, if you let them hang around as long as this, you, you. I, I wouldn't t fate if I was them.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
It. It might hurt you. And obviously when, when they do play in the national championship game, obviously it's going to be a home game for the Hurricane because it's being played here at the Hard Rock Stadium in Miami. I'm hoping the defense, I'm hoping the defense shows up a little better, more so that front as opposed to the back end for the Miami Hurricanes. I need Bane and them young boys, them young bulls on the front. I need them to impact the game a little bit more, make their presence felt a little bit more, make whoever they play, whether it be Mendoza or whether it be the quarterback from Oregon, I mean more, whoever they play, make him uncomfortable. Because both of them, if you allow them to sit back and throw the way Chandlers was able to throw tonight, they. Aren't they surgical with that ball? Man, they are surgical with that ball.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
The problem that, that I think Miami is that the guy had great mobility.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yeah.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
And when you have a guy great mobility, you, you, you really, you're really cautious. I don't want to, I just don't want to let him jump out the window on me because he kind of hurt Georgia with his legs on some plays and he's hurt teams with his legs and, and he has that ability. So they felt that they matched up really well with their secondary and they felt they could get enough pressure with four. Now they brought some pressure early on and they got to him and caused him to get an intentional grounding. But I thought that, I thought, it seemed like to me the game plan was it's like less, less containing. Less containing. I like, I like the last play, Ocho, because the right handed quarterback, normally they rolling right. What did they do? They dashed him left. Yep. So now they got three guys on that one side. Now we got one guy. So we got plenty enough time to get him out there, let the guys get down the field so they can throw it. But I thought Miami did a great look. Penalties hurt. Miami killed some drives, they dropped some interceptions. They ended up leading the points for Ole Miss. But you, those opportunities, when you get those opportunities like that, and I was like, man, you guys got the momentum, man, you need to put this team away. You need to get some separation right now. There's not enough separation between you and Ole Miss. And you're like. You look at. They're dominating this game. Yeah, I'm like, dominating it. And you look up and like, hold on, wait a minute. They still in this game? Yeah, as a matter of fact, they took the lead and then took the. And Miami got it back, and then they go back and get it again, and then Miami have to take it again. I'm like, how do you guys have the lead when you only have. You have, you know, basically a quarter and a half worth of fuel plays. Yeah, but that was. This was the unbelievable game, Ocho. This was. This was crazy. This is what. This is what you. This is what you hope. This is what you hope. This is what you want. I guess the money gonna be coming in, piling into the UX and some of them alumni. This is what we expect now, Ocho.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Absolutely. And another thing, this is good. Not only nil, but with players that are hitting the portal. Guess where they gonna want to come, right? Guess what? You know, PE Players are going to want to come to Miami because you see what the program has done. You see what Chris Ball has done with the program, and I think this is the resurgence to the Hurricanes of old. Now, I'm not saying they the same 2000 hurricanes that the hurricanes from the 90s.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Well, mainly the 80s, 80s. Yeah.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
This is a great step in the right direction for that program in general. And they got some really good players on that. Goddamn Malachi, Tony.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Unk.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Malachi. Tony is supposed to be a senior in high school, man. Yeah, he's supposed to be a senior in high school, man. Just. Just watching what he's done and being. Being a very, very good friend of his. His pops, who was from Liberty City, too. You might. I don't know if you remember Antonio. Antonio Brown. Not Antonio Brown that played for the Cowboys. And not. Not our Antonio Brown.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Right.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Antonio DEI Brown. He played for Buffalo Bills. He was short ran. He ran 4, 2.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Okay.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
He played a little bit with. With a command. I almost said red, but the commanders. But he was fast, boy. He was fast. So seeing. Seeing his son out there, man, shining and having fun, man. Salute the dea, man. And Malachi, I'm. Hey, you. You want to come to the game?
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
No, I don't.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
I can get tickets to the Hard Rock for us to get.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Oo. I'm gonna be traveling. I got. We got to go to New York next week, and then I got to go back to LA for three days next.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Okay.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Two episodes of Club Shit, man. Right. And plus, I still got to travel for The Super Bowl. Not bro.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Well, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
They know me and Jordan at the airport, like. Oh, y'.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
All.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Y' all again, huh?
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yeah. Hey, but listen, listen, I'm telling you, I can get us free tickets. I can get us free tickets in the game so we can go watch the game and. And we.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
We could do. I wish I could, like, make myself magically appear and not have to get on the bank. Do you know how far Miami is from Vegas?
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yeah, I know, but you already got to be on the west coast anyway. You got to be on the east coast anyway, so you might well come on down this way early. No, you just said you gotta. You just said we gotta be in New York. Okay, then you. You already. You could already be on this end. No, Miami to New York is a two hour flight.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
I know, Ocho. I need some rest. Ocho. Do you know how much we. Ocho, think about it. We got tonight, tomorrow.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yeah.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Saturday. Oh, yeah. Sunday.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yeah.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Monday, Tuesday.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yes.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
I travel Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Now, guess what you just said.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Guess what?
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
What?
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
I leave Monday. I take Tuesday, Wednesday, and come back Thursday.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Well, let me tell you something. You heard that schedule you just ran off, right?
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Yes.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
You do understand I'm doing the same traveling you doing, right?
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Yes.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Hey, I'm getting on the same flight, doing the same travel.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Well, you want to come? Do you want to. Hey, you want to. You want to be my. My guest? My guest host on Club Shay Shay? You want to host the episode?
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We got who we got. Oh, you can't tell me who we got, huh? Tell me who we got so I can do my homework so I know what to ask.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
I might have to. I might let you tape the episode this summer and see how you do.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Okay. Oh, so just me?
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah, you. It's you and the guest.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Okay.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Oh.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Hey, can I ask you a question? Can I ask you a question now? Now? Now? Does that come with pay? Is that extra? Pays the host?
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
I mean, I need to see. I need to see if you could do it. Maybe you might want to do one. Maybe you might want to start your own.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yeah. Hey, hold on, hold on.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
I got you to see how much homework, how much prep come with you.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Right, right, right. Hey, I think I'm ready for that because, you know, I could. I can flip the switch from the person that everybody sees on Night Cab and completely different than the person that'd be on Club Shay Shay. I get very professional, Unc. I flip the switch I'm gonna put on. I'm gonna put on a nice polo and a jacket.
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Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
I mean, you ain't got. But Ocho, you know, in an interview, everything can't be ad lib. Yeah. There could be some moments in there, but you got. You gotta follow script.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Oh, I'm. Let it flow. And you know, I'm not really good scripted unless it's a TV show. I'm not really good scripted, so I'm really good off the.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
It's got to be a sequence. You just can't be all over the place.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Oh, I know. One band, one sound. I got it, baby.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
But this was unbelievable. Look, the Canes won their first national championship in Miami. Yeah, there's a chance. They were. I remember when they won the first one. They beat Oklahoma.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Oklahoma.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Yeah.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
That was a while ago.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
And won the national championship. But they went. They went for two and the ball got batted down. This was an 84, 83 season. 84. That was Bernie Kosar. Bernie Kosar was a freshman. That's when they had Oklahoma. Nebraska had Turner, Gill, Mike Rozier. Mike Rozier had won the Heisman Trophy that year. Went over 2,000 yards. I think Dean Stein cooler was on that team. They had. They. They were. They were loaded. They were loaded. But do you. Do you sprung that upset Coach Nellenberger? They came out of nowhere and from that point on, they had, you know, had high Smith, Mel Bratton, Melvin. That was the. That was the. That was the. The beginning of the youth as we know it. You know, Coach Nellenberger. And then he leaves. He goes to, I think the USFL or maybe another school. And then income, Jimmy. And then income Erickson.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yeah. Hey, they were balling boy under. Hey, that them team Jimmy had and coach.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Oh, yeah, Jimmy. Well, look, not could only could Jimmy build a team.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yes.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
He knew exactly what to say to the players. Because my, you know, I know you guys have seen the interview with Mike where he said. I said, mike, man, why you want 41? He said, man, that was Jimmy. 47. I said. I said, jimmy, let me get another number, man. 47. That didn't mean. He said, I'm gonna give you some touchdowns. I'm gonna give you some yards. He said, mike, you know what I see when I see you in that 47? I see a big old 747 about to land in the end zone and score touchdowns. Mike say, yeah, you know, like, that's what you see. Yeah. He say, man, I get the dollars about two or three years in and we having A drink. He say, mike, I can't believe you brought that story. Mike said, what story? Jimmy, he say, that Sam 47 story. Jimmy knew how to sell, right? Jimmy knew how to motivate. Jimmy was the perfect carrot and the stick. He knew that.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yeah.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
And, man, he had some Playboy they ate. They got Jay Boogie, they got Danny Stubbs, and they had Tester Birdie. I still don't know how they lost that game to Penn State. I still don't know.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Oh, yeah.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
I don't know. With that level of talent that they had on the field that night.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
They were supposed to lose that game.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Hey, Jimmy. Jimmy has some players, too. And when Dennis Erickson was there.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
He has some players, too, boy, but I. I still.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Look, Ole Miss, you ain't got nothing to hold your head down for, bro.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
No, absolutely.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
This was. Boy, I. I think Lane. Lane would have probably been sick had they won this game, because remember, Ocho, he's leaving Ole Miss to go build a championship team, and lo and behold, he built one already.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yeah.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Yeah, he built one.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yeah.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
And the thing is, is that he could have stayed there and done this and had no problems. He must win a national championship at lsu.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
And we also have to understand why he left. We have to understand, you know, because. Because, you know, money talks, huh?
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Yes, money talks. But. But they. It's being reported that Ole Miss was willing to match, you know, hey, you know, FedEx. Now, he passed away, but, you know, I'm sure he left a pretty nice endowment.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yes, sir. I. I can tell you one thing. I think if Ole Miss was willing to match, when the rumblings of him actually leaving LSU would have came about, they would have matched it then.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
What's the point of waiting, Ocho, if you really want to stay? You. You know, you only entertain that.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yeah.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Yeah. It's like in a relationship, Ocho, if you really want to stay with old girl. Are you really out there entertaining others? If you really. We don't even talk about that. Don't even worry about that. Don't even worry about that. We. Hey, I'm talking about.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
I'm with you when you're. Right now. I'm with you right. Hey, hold on, hold on, hold on. Before you. Before you keep going, let me put my camera back on. Back on my. Because I'm. I'm on my laptop, and I don't. I don't like. I don't like it being not clear. Hold on. I. I need the people to see my face. Ah, there we go. There we go. See how. Hey, see how clear that boy is? Yeah.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Yeah. You brought that down. That's real nice there. Yeah. Oh, y', all, let me ask you a question. Yeah. Was that past interference on the last play?
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Oh, the very last play in the end zone in the corner.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Yeah.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Oh, hey, that's a touchy one, huh? That's a touchy one. That a. Honestly, that's the touchy one because he's feeling for him and he has him the whole time. But he pulled him down a little bit.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
It.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
It's. It's a call that can be caused. The ref want to be a. He could. He could do it. He could have threw it. Obviously, it's not. It's not a spot file. It'll be a 15 yards. And I think even with the 15 yards, I still don't think they get a touchdown because they needed a touchdown to win. But he could have called if he wanted to.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Ocho, I think that was more of a pass interference than the one in Ohio State. Remember, they called the one in the corner. Yes.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
That. That was not mistaken. I think that that gentleman, the db, I think he imprisoned Ocho.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Chris Gamble.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Sharp. Sharp.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
He is.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
I think so. I think. I thought. I think he called him a 187.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
That's tough, Man. That's tough.
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Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
That's tough.
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Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Happy birthday.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Oh, who birthday it is Ash.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Your birthday.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Oh, it's 12 o'. Clock. Hey, hey. Happy birthday.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Hey, Happy well you're just making a mess. Y' all should have been at Ocho house popping this.
Odoo Advertiser
Huh?
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
They should have been down at your house popping this. Making this mess in my house.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
And you Know what's funny is that I forgot. I forgot today. I forgot today was my birthday. You see how focused I am on work? You see how focused I am? I'm locked in. I did my homework and you know. You know how I'm finna celebrate tonight, right?
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Okay. Okay. Damn. Ultra 850. Y' all keep on popping like you turned up a 50 or 60.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yeah, I'm 50. I turned 58 today. Hey, Chad, I turned 58, have birthday. And you know. And you know how I'm gonna celebrate this thing, right?
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
How you finna celebrate? That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about. I got Cambodia in town.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Huh?
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Cambodia in town.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yeah, she right here. Oh, she right. She right here. She right here. Right here. Filming.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Did she feel me?
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yeah, she filming right now. Hey, you know, from a. Hey, hey. From a 58th birthday, you know. You know, I don't really drink, but I'm a seller. I'm gonna celebrate with y' all tonight on the chat. It's strong, no?
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Well, you don't chug it like that. Whoa, whoa. Damn, Elroy. Chad, he. He took it to the dome. He probably should have. I. Chad, I might be doing this by myself shortly. I would recommend. I was gonna recommend you put it on some ice or something. A little. Some soda or something. Yeah. Hey, tell Cambodia to get you some. Some. Some chaser. Get you some chaser. You need some chaser, you say? You know my chaser, he's got a.
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Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Damn. Lord have mercy. Chat. We just getting started. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. Man. Hey. Yeah.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
That's how you celebrate. That's how you bring it 58, boy.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
That's how you bring it in, Ocho.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Hey, that's how you bring in 58, bro.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
You just need some ginger ale. Ocho.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Chad, get y' all some of this goddamn Laporte. How you say it?
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Laportier.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yeah, laportier. Cognac.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
I would need y'.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
All.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
I'm gonna need y' all to start celebrating with me. I need y' all to start having a nightcap with me. Yeah, we have nightcap.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Hey, hey, hey, hey. I'm up.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Yeah. Oh, Joe. Carson Beck is playing the seventh season of college football. Whoa, whoa, whoa. His what, seven? Hold on. So he's 24, 25. That man, three years younger than Lamar.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Hey, is it. I have a question. Do they purposely stay back like this to make sure they get a Better position in the draft.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Well, you know what, you know what happens that with the. With the COVID Covid threw everything off. Guys getting six, seven years, eight years. You got guys that get drafted in NBA, then come back to college.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Right?
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
It's. But he put together one of his best games. Ocho, 23 or 37, 268, two touchdowns and one interception is three yard rushing. Touchdown with 18 seconds was the difference in the ball game. It was his eighth career win when trailing or tied in the fourth quarter. Look, I think the thing is that when you watch him, you see some. Some throws that he makes and you're like, okay, I can see why people love him. Oh, Joe, get some chaser. You need some chaser.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
You don't be chasing it.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Yes, I do. I'll be happy with ginger ale.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Oh, that's how you supposed to do it?
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Yeah. No, you don't have to do it, but you just not starting.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Okay, hold on. I'm gonna do it with this.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
No, that ain't what you. Are you trying to stay up and be. See, that's what people. Ocho, people drink Red Bull and alcohol when they really trying to stay up and get drunk. That ain't what you trying to do.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Hey, hey, boy. It's so strong. Boy. God damn. Hey, hot people do that. Hot people do this all the time, every weekend.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
I don't know how they do that. Ojoy, that ain't me.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Hey, why I'm. I'm sweating.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Oh, yeah, you feeling good? It gonna feel good now. You gonna feel good, baby. I hope you got a. A fan.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
I think I'm tearing up a little bit. Hey, hey. It burned right here, though.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Yeah, it smooth, Ocho. You took it down. Hey, you keep talking. Since you feeling good, go ahead.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Hey, chat. Hey, Chad. I'm feeling good. I'm feeling good. This is my first time. Really. This is my first time. You know, I mean, for those that don't know in the chat, I'm not one who consumes alcohol. A lot of people probably remember when we hit 1,000 subscribers in Vegas for that show. I just let it hit my. I let it hit my lip. I ain't really, really really drank it. So this is my first time ever. Ever. For those that actually know me personally, no, I don't drink. So this is my first time ever. And I thought, why not? Why not have my first drink tonight for my 58th birthday and. And. And tasting some uncs. La Portier, one of the smoother cognacs on. On the market? I'M excited. I'm happy. I hope my kids are watching. If my kids are watching. I love y'. All. Your daddy finally had a sip of alcohol because all my kids drink, and I don't. My kids are of age outside of that. For those of you who are wishing me a happy birthday, thank you. I love you. I appreciate the bird. And what do I have planned today for my birthday? I'm gonna have a cigar. After the show tonight, I'm gonna go to the gym because I feel. I feel wired up right now. I feel good. I feel energized. And. And, like, I look good for 58. Like, look at me like I'm using my. I'm using the right camera, right? So it. You. You can see everything visually. Like. Like I look good, right? And I'm thinking about at 58, if. If I can start, like, a modeling career. Is it too late for that? Is it too late because I think I should model because I'm 6 4.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Like, I'm gonna let you drink alone, Ocho. Oh, you go.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Hey, hey, hey, hey, Unc, I'm feeling good. Why? I'm feeling good.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Oh, so you get your little ginger rail.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Okay, hold on. Hold on. Let me get my cup too. Hold on, hold on. I'm gonna get up.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Chat, I got a feeling this thing about to go off the rails.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yeah. Hey, Chat.
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Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Hey, Chat. Well, we out here, boy. Hey. Yeah. Hey, which one I pour first? The. The. The chaser or this?
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Put that on the bottom. How much I put, huh? You'll need. Just go ahead. Just pour a little shot. I'll tell you when to stop.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Oh, shit. I've been pouring all this time.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
I can't see nothing. You pouring okay. Yeah. All right, now, go ahead, put. Yeah, you good. Now what you got?
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
What.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
What you chasing it with? Oh, Lord. Boy, you gonna be wide awake. Hey, don't, don't, don't. Don't drink that.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
I ain't got.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Don't drink that.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
I ain't got nothing else here. You ain't got no soda but my refrigerator empty. Boy, I ain't spending no money.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Oh, Lord have mercy.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
So I'm gonna use this, right? How much I pour in there?
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Don't throw that. Well, Chat, you know what the cat said when he got his tail caught in the washing machine? He said, it won't be long now. It won't be long now.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Ah.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
It was no liquor that killed old Bill. It did not take his breath. A little green hornets went up Bill nose and tickled o' Bill to death.
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Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Let's go.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yeah.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
All right. Ocho. The Miami Dolphins have fired Mike McDaniel. Seven and ten is second straight six season of missing the playoffs.
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Dalton owner Steven Ross after careful evaluation and extensive discussion since the season ended, I have made the decision that our organization is in need of comprehensive change. Ocho, are you surprised that the Dolphins Let Mike McDaniel go?
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
No, I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised. I think Mr. Ross, he wanted change. I think change was inevitable. Obviously when tour was benched, you can see what direction they were probably going to go down once that happened. Tua obviously saying some of the things he said when saying he sees no problem and starting somewhere else and trying to get things back. Rolling on another team.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Fresh starts.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yeah, a fresh start. So I mean you saw this coming. Still is Q and Eric Quinn ewers is he the answer long term? That's, that's also up in question. So the Dolphins are in disarray right now where there's really no true answer. Whatever coach does come in there, I mean he has his hands full. He has his hands full. They have some, some spots that need to be filled on the officer and they have some spots that need to be filled on the defensive end. Outside of that. Is it, God damn it. Is it. Is, is it a job that's that's going to be sought after. Maybe, maybe not. But they, they got a long way to go. They got a long way to go for one to be able to compete in the afc, AFC east, let alone.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
You got Drake May and you got. And you got Josh Allen.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yes. Yeah.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Drake May is in his, what, second year. John Allen's probably in his eighth year. They're still fairly young. So you got to deal with both of those guys for the next decade. Plus.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yeah.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
That's how you got to build. Don't worry about the Jets. You got two teams that's in front of you. They got, they, they're some. That's. I mean, the jets are worth the think about. If you can imagine. Ocho, the jets off. The jets are worse off than the Dolphins.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Well, well, hold on. They, they. Honestly, they might be equal now because neither one of them have a quarterback. Yeah, neither one of them have a quarterback. I still, I, I still don't know. You know, the jury is out on, on if yours is. Is. Is the answer long term?
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
No, he not.
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So, I mean, that, that, that puts you right back.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
We didn't show enough. It's not like a situation like the Saints and, and Tyler Shook. He showed enough. They said he's definitely our quarterback going into 2026.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Right.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
You didn't show them enough. That young man played really well when given the opportunity.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yeah.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
But let me ask you this. The John harbor automatically, because now I don't know if this is true, but it's being reported.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Right.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
For him to even consider it, you're gonna have to get rid of your general manager. He's gonna want his own guy in. Right. He's gonna want someone that was connected at the hip.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Right. I don't see John Harbaugh taking that job. I don't see him taking that job. Because obviously if you take that job and you know that the one thing that you need to compete in this NFL is a quarterback. And if that's not in place, your time there's gonna be real short. Yeah, your time there can be real short. So I think John Harbaugh will probably pick a place where there's already a quarterback in place and you can build from that point on. He.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Well, if that's the case, the Giants is perfect. Oh, they got a quarterback in place.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yeah, that's a good one. Now that's, that's a good situation.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
The Giants is the best situation because they have a quarterback in place.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yeah.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
The Raiders do not have a quarterback in place. The jets do not have a quarterback in place. The Titans have a quarterback in place.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
That's a good one. That. That's a good one. That's a good one. I like that one. I like that.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Arizona, they don't have a quarterback in place.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Also, I think that quarterback. I think for some reason, I don't know why, I could be wrong, but most of the time when I, When I make these guesses when it comes to the NFL, I've been right like I was with the Bears and Panthers. But I think Kyler Murray for some reason might be going to New York. I think Kyler Murray might be a.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Jet to the Jets. Yeah, I can see that happening. Yeah.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
And outside of that, I'm not. I'm not sure what the Dolphins do. I'm not sure what the Dolphins do. Maybe, maybe, maybe Flacco, Maybe Flacco comes in for. For a year.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Flacco got you. Flacco can give you five, six games, maybe.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yeah.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
The Falcons.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Wait a minute.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Look at what they got defensively. Look at the skill position players now. They got to do something with Pitts.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yeah.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
I think he's shown enough that he's going to get. He's going to probably move to the top of the front until the front of the line as far as pay at tight end, Right. With that being said, you got D, you got Bijan Robinson, you got Drake London, you got guys that can make plays, right? Quarterback. What are we going to do at quarterback?
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Well, Pennick Jr. Be back. He'll be back next year. Will he. Will he be ready by the start of the season?
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Ocho, for me, it was. It would just. It would have been hard for me. I. And if I'm a general manager, Ocho, I'm not sure I can make this. A guy with two ACL injuries at that position. I don't know if I can make that. I don't know if I can pull the trigger. Ocho, hold on now.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
What you mean? You talking, you talk about the number eight pick in the draft now you ain't got no choice.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
But if I'm the general manager there, I'm not saying I could make that pick, right? Not with two already, Ocho. And knowing how much he sets you back, if, If I just. I. I just. I just would not be able to. I just would not have been able to make that pick. But Stephen Ross, look at first, I mean, because you have to think about it, it didn't happen Monday. I think it happened, what, today or yesterday? The firing of McDaniel, it happened this morning, so it didn't happen immediately. So, like he said, I do believe Stephen Ross gave this careful consideration.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yeah.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
I do believe he put a lot of thought into this. But I think with Troy Choice, like, if you look, if you're rebuilding, if you wanting to go in a different direction, sometimes you got to throw the baby out with the bath water, let the hair go with the hide. It's just the way it has to be, Ocho.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Right, right, right, right.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Because you say if you want to feng shui everything, that you want to clean it, you got to let that go.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Hey, I'm supposed to finish the whole thing tonight.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
No, you're not supposed to finish that tonight. Maybe, maybe, maybe. Maybe. Maybe a couple of weeks.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
I ain't too far. I ain't too far. Now, look, I didn't. I didn't. Got a little bit of that.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah. That's full size. Yeah. Just. Just hold up.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
After the news broke, Tyreek Hill posted a cryptic Kevin Hart damn gift. They're gonna be a lot of changes. They're gonna be a lot of changes. They're moving on at the quarterback position. Obviously. They got a new head coach. They're gonna have a new head coach. They're gonna have a new general manager. Tyreek with a big salary number like he is coming out the injury more. He probably gonna be maybe a June 1st designation. Um, but I don't see him being back there. Um, look, they got Devon Hn. They're gonna need a receiver. I think they need some help on the offensive line. Defensively, they got a lot. They need a lot of. Now, I don't know their cap situation, but they need. They need a lie.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Do you think. Do you think there's any scenario in which. I know Tyreek has a high number. You think there's any scenario where he comes back?
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Not that. Not with that injury.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
That's. That's tough. That's tough because we've seen many players come back. Come back from injuries, and. And I think about someone like Tyreek, even if he's not as fast as he was before, he's still gonna be faster or step faster than everybody else.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
I agree. But are you willing. Are you willing to put 30 million, $35 million to see if he's.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
He's.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
He's back? I don't think you would be. I don't think. I don't think a t. Now they might put some incentives, give him a contract where he can maybe make 10, make 15 million, and get incentive to get it up to 20, 25. Right. But I just did that, that number, that, that worries that. I just, I don't see it. I don't. Who knows, maybe Kansas City. I, I think Kansas City needs offensive line. They need a lot of offensive line help. They're gonna have to do a lot of restructuring of contracts. You know, Mahomes is like 70 plus million dollars. They're gonna have to do something with. Here CJ it's something, it's a big number. They're gonna have to do something with his. I can see Carlotis. They do something with his. Would I be surprised if they traded Trent McDuffie? I would not, no.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Well, listen, he's up. He. It's time for him to get paid. It's time for him to get paid. I'm not sure you want to. Do you really want to let, let your centerpiece go outside of Chris Jones on your defense and let Trent McDuffie go and scrap and start all over? You have no. You can count on in the back end.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
I would do so.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
I wouldn't do that.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
You got to do something with Rasheed Rice.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Already.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
You got to realize, oh, that's, this was his third year.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Oh, snap. It is his third year. Golly.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
You know, Trey Smith got a big number. I don't think Trey is going anywhere. The right tackle, he's probably due for a restructure or a flat out release, right? They, they, they've got to tear this thing down and build it back up. Ocho, they've kicked the can. They've kicked the can and now they're toe horts. And so they can't kick it any further.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Right?
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
They can't kick it any further. So, but I think, I think with John Harbaugh being available, he's at the top of everybody's list because he's a proven commodity. He's been there 18 years. He's won the division, he's made the playoffs, he's won a Super Bowl. But I was listening today with Todd Monkey and Todd Monkey said, yeah, I could have had a better. We're going to talk about that. Okay, we're going to talk, we're going to talk about that a little later. That's, that's, that's a subject in and of its own self. So we'll talk about that a little later today. I mean, not today, tonight in the subject, but I think, I think John Harbaugh, I think if, you know, the Giants, if he wants a situation that has a quarterback, I Think the Giants is the best situation for him. Now, that's a very tough division, but you have the quarterback. If I got that guy in place, Ocho.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Right.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
I can build pretty, I can build pretty much from there, but without that guy is too much. It's too much of an uphill climb.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yeah, absolutely.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
So, absolutely. Go ahead. What are you gonna say?
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
No, I'm gonna say absolutely. I mean, without a quarterback, let's you, you, you inhale, you're gonna always be in hell. And unless you have that centerpiece to be able to build a team around offensively, unless you got one hell of a goddamn defense. You got to have one hell of a defense to even goddamn compete.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Look at all the teams, the top 14 teams, defense, scoring defense during the playoffs.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yeah.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Now go look at their quarterbacks. Trevor Lawrence was a number one overall pick. Bryce Young was the number one overall pick. Matthew Stafford was the number one overall pick. Trevor Lawrence was the number one overall pick. C.J. stroud was a number two overall pick. Go look at the quarterbacks that made the post. That's in the postseason this year. Look at Bo Nicks. The only guy that probably wasn't a, a first rounder was Purdy. Jalen Hurts was a second round. Yeah. But if you go back and look at the teams that made the playoffs, Aaron Rodgers, first round pick. Sam Darnold, number three overall pick. So yeah, you see what it is. The top, the top 14 team scoring team defensively in the playoffs. Now look at the quarterbacks. Yeah, you're like, oh, okay. Oh, my bad. Oh, you were talking about that. Oh, my bad. All right. Less than two days after yet another heartbreaking season ended loss, Ravens owner Steve Machadi pulled the plug on John Harbaugh's tenure in Baltimore, according to Jared Bell. Of course, it's not a stretch to suspect that Bashadi's decision was influenced by the deteriorating relationship between Harbaugh. Lamar Jackson. Last week, Harbaugh rejected the contention of by Baltimore columnist Baltimore sun columnist Mike Preston that a rift between the coach and the dynamic quarterback existed. Still, I'm seriously doubting that Preston, a well respected journalist who has covered the Ravens since their arrival from Cleveland in 1996. I know Mike Preston very well. Created a smoke out of thin air. There's also Jackson's strained relationship with Todd Monkin reportedly weighed heavily into the equation that led Harbaugh's ouster. According to the Athletic, Harbaugh became a buffer between the quarterback and the coordinator. Regardless, over the past six season, the Ravens have lost an NFL high 10 games after blowing a double digit lead in the second half. That pattern certainly connected the dots to the underachievement. So blaming Jacksons for Harbaugh Alster doesn't cut it, considering a bottom line that extends beyond the team's most important player. Todd Monkin said that he could have had a better relationship with Lamar. For whatever reason, they didn't connect. Not. This is not the first time that a quarterback and normally it's the quarterback and the head coach and the offensive coordinator is a buffer. Normally it's not the head coach that's a buffer because normally it's the coordinator that's a buffer between quarterback and head coach. Coach.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Right. And you know what? I wonder why that is though. Why wouldn't office accordingly and the quarterback get along? What type of rift can that be? Listen, if you're going to have a relationship, if there's any relationship that needs to work extremely well and everything you all, all ideologies need to align is a goddamn off of the coordinating the quarterback.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Yes.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Like y'. All, y' all can't have a riff. I'm not sure how that could happen. Obviously. Maybe, maybe there's something Lamar wanted to run that he didn't agree with or maybe there's some things that he wanted Lamar to run and you know, he didn't agree. He didn't, he didn't agree with it. But you can't have a riff. You can't have a river, especially not, not between those two. The person actually calling the plays and you're the quarterback. That, that's a relationship that has to be on the same page.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Todd Monkin accepted blame for why Lamar Jackson and the Ravens regressed in his third season as a team offensive coordinator. Monkin said today, I didn't coach Lamar well enough. I didn't have a good enough relationship as I could have. I didn't do things we needed to do this year to win enough games to give ourselves a chance. I believe that. I really wish Lamar would have been healthy and seen what and what. What we kept building on when we were from 23 and 24. Then we just never got it going. That's what you have to live with. Lamar and I, Lamar and I to me, had a good relationship. Could it have been better? Yes. Lamar and I never had an issue. Monkin isn't expected to remain with the Ravens. Of course not. If he hasn't. If he didn't have a good relationship. So what, you gonna let Lamar go and keep monkey?
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yeah. I mean it's Impossible to repair at this point in the fact that it's a quarterback.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
What are you gonna be? I don't know. If he wants to be there, then yeah, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense because normally guys. Oo normally guys. Doesn't. Doesn't do well with demotions.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yeah.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
You know what I'm saying? Hold on. I'm the offensive coordinator and now you telling me I'm a, I'm. I'm just a quarterback coach. Well, he can't work with Lamar. Oh, now I'm a receivers coach. I go from being offensive coordinator to being a position coach. I, I don't know if that's going.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
To work, coach, but obviously if he is going to stay there. Is. Is there any scenario where Lamar might not be there as well? What if Lamar, you know, is going.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
On to green the contract? Now he could, I don't see him doing that, but he could request, you know, Trey want to get out of there. He could, yeah.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
I mean, I mean, listen, that when it comes to the NFL, when it comes to the business side of things, ain't. Ain't no telling. I don't think it's far fetched, especially now that they're trying to start over from scratch. I don't see, I don't see a situation or scenario where you let someone that is as important and as, as special as Lamar is still one of the top five quarterbacks in the NFL. You don't let that type of player get out your building. You just don't. No matter what people may think about him, no matter what you may say about his playoff success and not being able to reach a Super bowl at this point, still, he gives you your best chance to win on any team you put him on. He just does. Whether you like him or not.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
But we got to stop this notion, guys. Lamar wasn't now Monkin's first year there. Ocho, he wins the MVP last year. He's 41 and 5 and real. And most people believe he should have won the MVP last year. Yes, he wasn't healthy this year. And now all of a sudden Todd Monkey can't call plays. Why do y' all do that Chat? Why, why, why do you do that? This. He won an MVP in his first year there. His second year they went to the NFC championship. They went to the NFC championship game. They lost a heartbreak, three turnovers. Next year Lamar had one of the great, probably one of the five great quarterback seasons. 41, 4. And now Lamar struggled this year with injuries and they Missed the playoff and not Todd Monkey. Terrible.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yeah. Listen, it's hard. It's hard. It's hard to remain consistent. I don't think people understand. It's. It's hard to make. Remain consistent and always play at a very high level. Sometimes things don't go well.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Injuries. Lamar was hurt. Ocho. He was hurt.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yeah.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
How many games did he miss? He missed like three games. And when he first got back from injury, you could tell he wasn't the same. Maybe the game against Pittsburgh was as healthy as he's been, but he was not as healthy as you've seen Lamar late in the season.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Right?
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Y' all gotta stop doing this. He. Okay, y' all Ran Grove. He won the mvp. Ocho. His first year full year starting, he wins the MVP with Greg Roman. Now all of a sudden things go sideways. You don't like Greg Roman. Todd Monkin comes in his first year MVP the next year, 41 touchdowns. There haven't been a whole lot of quarterbacks but throw 40 plus touchdowns and have single digit interceptions with this man had 41 4. Lamar's hurt this year. He's hurt. Y' all know he's hurt his hamstring and now all of a sudden Todd Monking terrible. Which. Why didn't you say that when. When he won the mvp? Yeah, I didn't hear anybody say Todd Monkey was terrible. Right. They went 41 and 4 last year. Todd. You didn't say Todd Monkey. I mean, think about it. Oh, you are drop pass away from probably beating Buffalo last year.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Buffalo last year? Yeah.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Your Lamar turned the ball over. But. But Zay Flower was going into the end zone. He's gonna extend the ball and Sneed punches it out. Come. Yes. They've got to do a better job of finishing. Do we? Did you get that stat? I mean, Ocho, guess who gave up the most yards this year. DBS. Two of them play for. Two of them play for the Ravens.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
44. Number two.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
One gave up 831 yards. The other one gave up 813 yards.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Oh my goodness.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Followed by Riley Moss. But the Bronco fans collection tell me great. And I hear, I hear my guy key Keith to leave tip. Oh man. Riley Moss like that. Well, he gave up the third most yards and he was the tie for first impal. I don't know how that's a great corner, but Okay, I take your word for it. Keeb, you play corner longer than I did. I never played corner, to be honest with you. But I would take your word for you said he good with those numbers. Well, he don't give up no touchdowns. But how many of those yardage and how many of those penalties led to points? See, people look at. See, that's what you got to be careful of. Oo well, he didn't give up a touchdown. But your PI led the points. Yeah, the yardage that you gave up, that 50 yard bomb that you tackle back to two led the points. Right, But I just want Ravens fans don't put this all on Todd Monkey. You can't because Lamar had two of the greatest. Can you see it on your screen? Ocho the okay, the most yards allowed in coverage in 2025 per next gen stat. Marlon Humphrey gave up 831 yards. Nate Wiggins gave up 810 yards. Amit Robinson from Detroit gave up 808 yards. Riley Moss gave up 806 yards. And Sanstrille from the Commanders gave up 780.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Damn. Hey, you know, hey, that's. Hey, that, that's tough too. That's tough. And obviously to me, I say it all the time. I think defensive back is the hardest, hardest position to play. You know, outside, outside of the quarterback position. You know, having to do.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Oh, that's the hardest it is having.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
To deal with dudes, man, running at you full speed. They know where they're going, you don't. And you doing everything backwards as fast as you can. I mean it's, it's a tough spot. That's why I commend the Derek Stingley's, the JC Horns. The past certains. Well, Gonzalez and them dudes got one hell of a task and they play it very well at the highest level.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Yes.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
And it, it's like that. It sucks. Excuse. Think about some of the teams, especially when it comes to Wiggins and Marlon Humphrey and they don't have no front. They don't got nothing on that first level. So you got the goddamn cover for hell all goddamn day long.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
All day long. You don't have that problem in Denver.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Oh no.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Look, I think a lot of this maybe have because Ocho as. As Jared Bell reported wrote for right. For the USA Today. And I know Jared very, very well. He covered me. Speak to Jared. Is that the Ravens haven't been able to finish. Right. Remember they had Buffalo at the beginning of the year. Ocho, they gave that up. They had Buffalo last year in the playoffs. They gave that up. Yeah, they. They not able to finish game this year. They had Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh come back. They had Pittsburgh again. So what I will say is that this notion. Oh, come fourth quarter we gonna rotate. What you not no solar system let the stars and the planets rotate. Yeah, here we get your big ass in there. I ain't rotate nothing. Right. Especially when I need to cloak. Ocho, that's what I got it for. I got 6 foot 3, 250 pounds and you mean to tell me he's on the bench? Well, I got a five, I got a five, seven or a 200 pound back. Hell no.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yeah, that may don't make no sense.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Maybe Steve Machadi is reported that Steve didn't report to Eric Dacosta. He reported straight to Bashadi. And I said Bashani should have been very upset because I'm asking, I'm paying a guy. I've given a guy a raise that I had a two year deal on. I tear that contract up and add and giving more money. Yeah, he on the sideline. Yeah, he runs for the second most yards this year. He had the second most under yard games this year. Why, why is he. When we're trying to close the game, why is he on the sideline? Why do we just. I get it, ocho. We up 20, we up 20 points or something like that, right? We only. Hey, you down this series, Derek. Okay, cool. But in a situation like this, that's if we on solid footing. Ocho, every game matter because we squandered so many games before. So every game is almost doubled because we can ill afford to lose any momentum, right? So I'm sure Steve was upset. It's like, bro, John, what are we doing? I don't care about no rotation. As a matter of fact, I went down there to and got my car rotated. That's the only rotation I know about. I paid Derrick Henry $19 million a year. I want him in the game. It's that simple. But look, I think John Harbaugh is a phenomenal coach. But I thought, I thought it was time for him to leave.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yeah, it was time.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Same thing. Andy Ocho. Andy Reid is a perfect example, right?
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Oh, in Philly. In Philly, yes. Okay, okay, okay.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
He goes to, he goes to Kansas City. And Andy Reid is arguably a top five coach in NFL history.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
History, right.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
He goes to five Super Bowls, he wins three of them. Think he has what, the third most wins? Third or fourth most wins all the time. When you combine regular season and postseason, maybe this is a situation for John Harbaugh.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Right?
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
John inherited a very good team because what he inherited was a. Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, Terrell Suggs. Hello. De nada. I Don't know if y' all noticed, but they were pretty good.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Oh, they were nice, man. They was nice.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
And. And Joe Flacco, come postseason, he looked like Joe Montana. Joe Flacco never looked in the regular season like he looked in the postseason. Look at who he beat. He beat Tom Brady twice. Should have beat him three times.
Jenna Kim Jones
Yeah.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Remember Lee Evans dropped the touchdown ocho with like 30 seconds. That would have gave him the victory.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Hey. Oh, Lee Evans. What?
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Yeah, I forgot about Lee beat Peyton Manning. I mean, in that run. They went to the Super Bowl. He beat Andrew. Look, he beat Peyton Manning and Tom Brady just to get to the Super Bowl. But you got Derrick Henry in your backfield. You got to give him the ball. I understand. Ocho. When you pay a guy the kind of money that you're paying Lamar, your tendency is to want to throw it.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Yeah. Because wait, if not, if not even throw it, at least make sure the decisions that are made, they come by him. The ball goes through him.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Yes.
Co-host / Unc (possibly Andy Reid or a close friend of Chad)
Hey. Hey. I'm. Are you hot?
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
No, I'm good.
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The big thing about working at tech.
Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson
Is that it's ever evolving, ever changing.
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Everyone's a rookie. That's how fast the industry is changing.
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So what I'm really excited about is to be part of that change.
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Date: January 9, 2026
Host: Shannon Sharpe ("Unc")
Co-Host: Chad "Ocho Cinco" Johnson
Podcast: Club Shay Shay
This episode of Club Shay Shay's "Nightcap" is a lively, passionate breakdown of a wild college football playoff, explosive NFL coaching changes, and the mounting frustrations around blame in Baltimore. Hall of Famer Shannon Sharpe (“Unc”) and Chad "Ocho Cinco" Johnson bring deep analysis, insider stories, and their signature banter, focusing on:
[06:00–20:00]
Beck’s talent is undeniable, but questions remain about his consistency.
Great receivers bailed him out, especially Malachi Tony:
Lack of pass rush and discipline in the Miami secondary nearly doomed the Hurricanes.
Standout performances noted on both sides, with praise for Ole Miss DB Grave Jr. despite the loss:
NIL/Transfer Portal Boom: Miami’s resurgence could make it a top destination amid NIL and transfer portal changes:
Malachi Tony’s youth: “[He] is supposed to be a senior in high school, man. Just watching what he's done and being a very, very good friend of his pops...” (20:15)
Reflections on Miami's dynasty: Shannon gives a history lesson on the legends that built “The U” and where this fits in their narrative.
[43:05–54:33]
[57:51–71:54]
John Harbaugh out as Ravens head coach, with speculation swirling. Many fans are blaming everyone but Lamar Jackson.
Shannon calls for nuance: “Blaming Jackson for Harbaugh's ouster doesn't cut it, considering a bottom line that extends beyond the team's most important player.” (59:31)
Ocho is frustrated: “If there’s any relationship that needs to work extremely well...it’s a goddamn offensive coordinator and the quarterback.” (61:09)
Ravens DBs, especially Marlon Humphrey and Nate Wiggins, gave up huge yardage in coverage.
On the relentless blame toward coordinators: “You can't [blame] because Lamar had two of the greatest…Can you see it on your screen, Ocho, the most yards allowed in coverage in 2025, per next gen stat…” (67:39)
The episode is high-energy, candid, and irreverently funny—blending storytelling, football insight, and playful roasting. Unc and Ocho are honest and occasionally blunt, with deep respect (and some exasperation) for the game and its personalities. Their back-and-forth is both entertaining and steeped in real expertise: "One band, one sound. I got it, baby." (23:46)
This episode is a must for football fans who want more than just scores and highlights: you get former pro perspectives, cultural context, and the unfiltered emotions of being a lifelong football obsessive. Even if you missed the game or breaking news, this summary gives you the why and how—not just the what—behind the headlines.