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Wait a minute. Whoa, whoa, whoa. What do you mean it's a bad combination? Huh? Cause both of y' all picked Detroit to win the game, but no, yeah, yes you did. Because I don't know if it because they were playing at home, but I told you ahead of time. Listen, I can't compare when it comes to your ball knowledge, okay? But I use something called common sense and logic, understanding that at some point Donovan Mitchell has to beat Their narratives about the playoffs. James Harden has to beat the narratives about the playoffs. They did that tonight. Now, I told you they were going to do that long ago, but here we go in the next series. Neither one. Neither one of y' all want to listen, because that's me. Okay. You saw what happened tonight.
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Yes.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Yes. Unk. It was a bad combination. I could have told you the combination was gonna happen before it happened.
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Well, a lot of people gonna say the combination happened. Cause ABC tweet had it. Had it. Playing the Knicks versus the Cavaliers. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Hey, that ain't that. Hey, that ain't got nothing to do with nothing. Them boys played bad tonight. Matter of fact, when you look at tonight, the energy was different. It felt like the Cavs had a home game. Joe.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
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ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Everybody. The way they played the game, the aggression, how aggressive they were. For James Harden having a bad game. For James Harden having a bad game. This is why they call it a team sport. Everybody else stepped up. That goddamn Sam Merrill, boy. He showed out tonight. He showed out tonight. Along with, you know, Allen and Mobley. Donovan Mitchell did what he needed, struck. He didn't get much from Struss, but the lack of production from James Hardenite, it was made up. With Sam Merrill playing the way he played tonight. He played one hell of a goddamn well.
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I think the bigs also. Joe, I'm gonna let you slide in, but when you get 44 points, 19 rebounds from your big with seven assists, you're probably gonna win that game. Both guys shot over 50% from the floor. Both guys. Evan Mobley was plus 31. James Harden plus 31. Donovan Mitchell plus 17. Max Struts plus plus 11. Jared Allen plus nine. Dean Wade plus 17. I mean, so when you. When. When one of your stars is off, okay, who. Where are we gonna get. Where are we gonna get the production that we normally get from our star? Hey, everybody say I got some slack. Hey, J, what you got on that, man? I got a 20 piece. All right, I'll take that. Hey, Sam. Mer, what you got? He's. I got something on your.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
I got a 20 piece, too.
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And that was. You know, the difference was Cleveland played really well. Detroit played bad. I mean, they couldn't stop anybody. Look how they was going to the basket. Sam Merrill was putting the ball on the floor, getting to the basket, getting a ones. Jared Allen taking the ball from the top of the key, spinning. Joe ain't going down the lane, dunking the basketball. That ain't how Detroit normally plays.
ISO Joe Johnson
Defense.
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Go ahead, Joe.
ISO Joe Johnson
Man, if Evan Mo, Evan Mobley and Jared Allen gonna play like this, Uncle Ojo. Hey, man, they gonna be tough to beat. I, I, I. Kudos to Cleveland for coming in on the road. I felt Detroit exerted so much energy in that game six, you know what I mean? It was such an emotional win for them that tonight they didn't even. They look so lethargic and flat, bro. Like I'm talking about from the start. From the start of the game, it seems like Cleveland were more desperate. You know, they wanted the game more. Maybe because they squandered away, you know, obviously being able to advance on their home court in game six, but they played more desperate. They had guys out there who were doing any and everything they could to put their stamp on the game. Hey, look what we talk about the others, you look at Sam Merle, the guy came in, bro, 23.7 to 10, shooting 5 for 8 from 3. Hey, you need them type of, you know, you need them type of games from guys so you can get over the hump, bro. So James can be pedestrian in a game like this, you know what I mean? But man, if Mobley and Allen playing like this, I, I think, honestly, Ocho, I know I picked Detroit. I know I picked Detroit to win this series. Yes, sir, this game. But I much rather see Cleveland playing against the Knicks with these two bigs. Hopefully they get, hopefully, hopefully they took something from this, bro. You know, the, the aggression that Mobley and Allen played with tonight, Uncle Oo, I just felt this was their best game of the series, bro. I, I've never seen them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I never seen them play with this type of thrust. They was going at their, man, like they were just playing harder than the Pistons, bro. And the Pistons, Uncle Ocho, that damn Thompson kid. I, I love, I love his energy, his effort and everything that he brings, but damn it, if you can't make a damn shot wide open in this league, bro, it's gonna be hard to win with guys like that. I'm just keeping it real, bro.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Hey, and listen, K didn't have no help tonight. Where was Tobias Harris?
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Joe Ocho (Joe)
This is, this is.
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He went back to being Tobias Harris. I don't know. He was impersonating Kobe, so. I don't know. I don't. He must have thought it was Halloween and he dressed up as to buy. Cause he was dressed up as some other player.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, hey, hey, listen, hold on. You talking about where were these dudes at man, to me, from. From my eye, it just seemed like they were. They were. They was just dead in the water. Tired, bro. Outside of Jenkins, Duncan, Robinson and Lavert, even K, he looked like he was. Like he was bogged down in time. Like, they just didn't have it, bro. Like, I'm telling you. I don't know if it was because it was such an emotional win in Game 6 that when they came home, they kind of had a letdown, but they just looked. They looked out of it tonight, fellas. Enduring. I mean, hell, it's hard. It's hard to win when you don't have a lot of offensive firepower and you depending on one guy to really carry you, bro. You know, I. Hey, hey, the Pistons, they gotta look themselves in the mirror this summer, man. They got some decisions they gotta make, some important ones, too.
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They're not good enough. They're not good enough, Joe. I mean, we can. We can. Look, they didn't play good tonight, but if they get past or. I don't think they're ready to win a championship, they got too many holes. Cade has to be great, and I'm not talking about good. He has to be great with Mary every single game for them to have a chance. If he plays bad, they're not winning. It's really that simple. We see James Harden play bad, they won. If Cade plays bad, they're not winning. And there are a lot of other teams that have. Have guys that if they play bad, shake and play bad and they can still win. Oh, can play bad. And you have Murray and you have other guys. If Cade Cunningham plays bad, they're not winning. They're. They're just. They're just not. And again, Joe, he. He's got. Joe, I don't know what he needs to do, and I know he. Joe, but he got to start taking. He got to take care of the ball, Joe. He go. If he doesn't start taking care of the ball better, you know what he's gonna do, Joe? He's gonna find himself in a. Like James Harden.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
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Cause the turnover. Look at. Look at what? What. How many turnovers did James Harden have tonight? One plus 31. Even though he only had nine points the other night, he had seven. Eight. The games they lost. Look at the number of turnovers they have. Look at the game. Look at Harden's turnovers, the games they lost. Look at Harden's turnovers. He. Kaden, got a better job of just taking care of the bat. I understand they put a lot on your plate. To whom much is given, much is required.
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You gotta take care. You gotta take care of the ball you got. And if Thompson you are phenomenal defensive player, you're going to be in the running, you're going to be on all NBA defensive selection and you're going to potentially win defensive player of the year. But you are an absolute liability.
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ain't no way around it. And I told you before I let you go, Joe. I told you. I said Evan Mobley got a decided advantage on Tobias Harris.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yes.
Host/Moderator
Punished him down low.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, punished him, had his mind made up.
Host/Moderator
Yeah, enough. He said enough. He like Reggie in clumps. He said, I used to like Black, now I gotta attack Black. I used to like Jabari, now I gotta attack him.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Yeah. The funny thing about it, too, is as I look at Cade and you talk about the turnovers and him understanding, you know, I got to put this team on my back because I don't have much help. Tobias Harris is. He's so inconsistent. You don't know what he's gonna give you from game to game. I think that's part of the reason where some of the turnovers are coming from because Cade has to exert so much energy. So much energy. And obviously, Unc. You know how it is when fatigue sets in, that's when you start to make mistakes.
Host/Moderator
You're right.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
I think I'm seeing that. I think I'm seeing that from Cade a lot in this series, just in general, when he's having to take ball games over. Because I think Tobias Harris in the off season, you say they need to make some. They have some decisions to make, but who's out there? Think about it. If Cade's having a bad game, who's out there that you can go get that. That can connect, that can assure you, you know, you can get points and they can take over game when Kate is not having a. Not having a good game, huh?
Host/Moderator
Goat James. Hey, in Detroit, it's.
ISO Joe Johnson
It's some. It's. It's some guys out there, Ocho, who can help Detroit. I mean, listen.
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I mean, I mean, obviously there are guys that can help, but I'm saying not to the extent. Not. Not the same as you see a Shay go out and, oh, you ain't got to worry about nothing. Know, collectively as a team, they're so great all the way. All the way across the board. I mean, Detroit is not built like that.
ISO Joe Johnson
I think Detroit is built on defense. You know, that's what they hung their hat on pretty much this whole season. This is how they won 60 games. They're just not an offensive juggernaut to where, you know, you expect them to have four or five guys with 20 plus points. They just. It's not going to happen. Hell, I don't think it's pretty much happened the whole season. And Unc, you right, K has to be extra special, bro. Night in and night out, just for them to even be in the damn game. You know what I mean? For him having a pedestrian game like this, a bad game, you, you have no chance of winning this ball game, bro. It's gonna look like you have zero chance. Yeah, it is.
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He get 13 points with five turnovers. You're gonna lose by damn near 30. If I, I wish.
ISO Joe Johnson
Every time. Every time. And then you look at Donovan and James Harden tonight. Kudos. I know Jameson had a best game offensively.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Yeah.
ISO Joe Johnson
But, bro, one turnover. Donovan, zero turnovers. Hell, every game they done lost, they've been over five, six, seven turnovers, bro.
Host/Moderator
A piece.
ISO Joe Johnson
You know, and so hopefully, you know, they can take this game plan into New York because it's virtually pretty much the same team. They got guys who are high energy defensively and, you know, their defense create offensive opportunities, so they got to take care of the basketball. But damn, Detroit squandered away a great chance, bro. Get Cleveland credit, man. Coming into that hostile environment, Game seven, they just, they controlled the entire game. The entire game.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Hey, from, from the, from the start. Start to finish, Joe. Start to finish. And, and let me, let me tell y' all something. I, I, I know, I know y', all, y' all know the game a lot better than I do. Y' all been watching it for a very long time. Unc, when it come to you, you know, you know basketball from the 50s and 60s, 70s, 80s. No. To the 2000s. But now, but I'm telling you right now, ahead of time, y' all need to start listening to me when it comes to my basketball knowledge and iq. You hear me?
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah.
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Between the Knicks and the Cavs, okay, it's going to seven. You hear me?
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It's going seven.
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I'm telling you right now, it's going seven. But it's going seven in the Knicks favor now. Now you do it. That you do with that what you will. And that goes for everybody in the chat, too. Listen to me when I tell you I haven't been wrong all series long since the playoffs started. And that's for a reason.
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Hey, listen, let me know. Let me ask you this. What if they made a move? What if they got AD A big that can score, can defend and pair him with, carry him with cut Cade.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, they need something like that. Oh, yeah, they need. Hey, hey, My, my question would be, hell, what Type of shape 80 gonna be in? Hell, is he gonna be healthy enough to give us at least, let's say 60 games? I ain't asking for 82, you know,
Host/Moderator
can you give us 65? 65, Joe.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Hold on, hold on. How about, how about we do this, Joe? And I'm. Let me, let's say you want 80, right? You want to die in Detroit, right? When's the last time he gave you 60 games? Let's, let's start there.
Host/Moderator
I don't think, I don't know if he gave us this year, Joe, he might not gave us 20.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Okay, okay. Not this year. Last year. How many games did he give us last year?
Host/Moderator
I hurt soon as he got there. What you call them? And then he got in and they shut him down, so. It's been a minute. It's been a minute, though, Joe.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Yeah, that. I, I don't think, I don't think that's the answer, Joe.
ISO Joe Johnson
But Ocho, we. Listen, my thing is, if you, if you, if you're a player who's been hurt a lot like this, bro, you, you gotta really take control of your nutrition and your in, in your workouts, bro. I think that's everything. I, I, you know, for me, when I seen AD Coming to camp last year with, with the Mavericks, he just looked out of shape. He, he looked, he looked a little heavy in the, in the face and in his body. I just think you cannot come into camp trying to get into shape. This basketball, bro, it's too much running, it's too many soft tissue injuries that, that can possibly happen when you trying to get in shape like that. Hopefully he's learned his lesson. But for me, Unc, I like, I, I wouldn't mind AD But I think they need another guard who can really get money. Like, I'm gonna be honest with you, I don't know if it's possible, but Devin Booker, maybe you package up a couple of these guys and try and go get Devin Booker, bro. You need a bonafide score next to Cade, man. Yeah, you gotta go get a bona fide.
Host/Moderator
Doesn't want to leave the Clippers.
ISO Joe Johnson
Well, hey, hey, hey.
Host/Moderator
Damn.
ISO Joe Johnson
He don't want to leave. If the Clippers get rid of. Hey, if the Clippers ready to get rid of his ass, he got to go. Hey, hey, hey, look, they, they. I know the Clippers probably trying to prepare for the future, you know, get a lot of graphics, young cats, young assets to where they can, you know, some way somehow find a Way to compete over the next couple years, bro. In. In that beautiful arena that they got.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Hey, you know what I mean? Nobody else gonna say it out loud, but I say it out loud. Y' all need to get y' all ball knowledge up like me.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, man, here we go.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
You hear me? Hey, as much as y', all, you know I respect y'. All. You hear me? I love y', all, too. Like brothers, right?
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
But y' all need to get your basketball knowledge up like me, because the fact that y' all know the game better than I do, and I'm sort of a late bloomer, like, I lost my virginity at 27, and I know the game a little bit better than y'.
Host/Moderator
All.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
When it. When it comes to figuring out the outcomes of these series, I mean, that. That's. That's. I mean, that's beyond me.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, hey, it's like a. It's like a. It's like a dude shooting dice for the first time who ain't never really shot dice. His ass lucky as hell he hitting all the points. You know what I'm saying? That's what it is, Ocho.
Host/Moderator
You really.
ISO Joe Johnson
You really just guessing on. On the cool. But you. You know what I'm saying? You making some good guesses. You make.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Time out, time out, time out, time out, time out, time out, time out. So let me get this right. So I beat y' all ass in March Madness.
ISO Joe Johnson
No, no, no, no. Let me finish.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Let me finish. Now, come. Now I come to basketball season, NBA. I'm beating you in that, too. And you still think it's luck?
Host/Moderator
You pick Logan, you pick mascots. See?
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Okay, okay, so what I'm picking now.
Host/Moderator
But, hey, what about football? With your knowledge.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
What about football?
Host/Moderator
Your football knowledge.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Oh, hold on, hold on. When it comes to football knowledge, I bet with my heart, huh? When it comes. When it comes to basketball knowledge, I bet with my mind.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, hey.
Host/Moderator
And that.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
You see how that work?
ISO Joe Johnson
And that's. That's been my problem with basketball. I've been bending with my heart this whole post season. Now I got. I got to step it up. I got to get it together. It's nut cutting time now.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Okay, let me. Let me see. Let me see how much you've learned from me so far. Joe, the Cavs are playing in the Eastern Conference finals, right?
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Who you got in that series?
ISO Joe Johnson
I got the Knicks. Oh, Joe.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Okay, about, you know, you learn, you know what? Where you going places?
Host/Moderator
What?
ISO Joe Johnson
Huh?
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Where you go are you going? Hey, who you got?
Host/Moderator
I'm Taking the Knicks. But if, oh, if Og was healthy, I'd take him in five.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Okay, okay. But, oh, Og gonna be back this series, though. I talked to OG. No, no, listen to me. I talked to OG he said he'll be back by game two.
ISO Joe Johnson
Man, listen, sometimes less is more. Man, they play great without OG if we just, you know, keeping it 100. I ain't saying that they ain't gonna need him to win, you know, to win a title, but I don't really think. I don't really think they should rush him back. I think Harden and Bridges have been playing great. Hell, they gonna cause a lot of havoc for James and Donovan in this series here coming up.
Host/Moderator
Don't go crazy.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, man, Ocho, when you. Hey, when I look at this game, look at the free throw disparity.
Host/Moderator
Cleveland can't make free throw. They missed 16, Joe Ocho.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, my. 63. 63 from the free throw line, bro.
Host/Moderator
Yeah, they missed 16 free throws and they're good. I mean, think about it. Alan missed six, Mobley missed five, J. Donovan missed. Donovan missed two. James missed three. At one point, James had made like 32 straight. And as soon as they put that graph up there, he fell apart. He missed like 10 of his next 15. Cause remember, he missed the free throw. He ended up getting his rebound. Remember, Joe?
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, he missed.
Host/Moderator
He played the first one.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Host/Moderator
Missed the second one, got the rebound, went to the free throw line and missed it and made it. Missed another one.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, they can. Hey, look and know if they. If they even looking to complete compete with New York, bro. Them free. Them free throws don't come in handy. They got to make.
Host/Moderator
Yeah, because what you call. Because you know, Brunson getting to the free throw line, if he don't do nothing else, he don't get the free throw line on you.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, and that's the thing. It's like, damn, they ain't got nobody. Brunson fell.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
No, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Don't do that. Don't do that. Cuz even the teams that had somebody go out, Brunson couldn't do nothing with him. You remember. Remember what you said? Remember what you said about Eskim?
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, man.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Remember what you said about Eskim?
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
He said he was the answer. Huh?
ISO Joe Johnson
He was a little wet.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
He was the big body Brunson stopper. Didn't you.
ISO Joe Johnson
He looked.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Oh, oh, now he went behind the ears.
Host/Moderator
Okay, nobody say no Bronson. Hey, that's how you Say how you make stuff up. Joe, he give. He get a couple games right now. He. Now he want to be on the app. A couple talking about call me for pigs.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Hey, listen.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, Joe.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Hey, Joe.
ISO Joe Johnson
Unc.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Oh, listen, with all due respect, get your ball game knowledge up, man.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah. Hey, Unc, he feeling good. He feeling good. Let's let him go. Hey, hey. Go. Go get your rent out, man. Do your thing, bro.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Hey, I. I'm doing it. I'm proving y' all wrong, that's all. Yeah.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Joe. Hold on, Joe. Hold on. Joe, you played the game at the highest level.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
You know the game better than me. You can. You can. You can teach me the game. You hear me?
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
The fact that I'm beating you at your own game, what does that tell you? What? Huh?
Host/Moderator
You make so not only.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Hold on. Let me tell you something. Not only am I going to outdo you in your own game when it comes to this show, right? Yeah. Wait until I see you one on one.
ISO Joe Johnson
You saying you gonna outplay me, too?
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Outplay you, too, boy. Cause listen, I'm out thinking you right now. When we get on the court, I'm out think you there, too.
ISO Joe Johnson
Ocho, you ain't got a chance, bro. I mean, I understand you feeling. I understand you feeling good and all that, but this. Hey, this here me getting these pics wrong. Don't do nothing but piss me off for when I do see you. To give you hell. Give you pure hell.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Yo, this is the funny thing. You can't play. You can't play well. Pissed off. That's why I' ma talk to you. Once you piss off and frustrated, you're gonna be like Thompson, you gonna get. You gonna foul out.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, hey. I'm like Wimby. I'll be with the Monks, baby. You ain't gonna be able to do nothing.
Host/Moderator
You ain't gonna be able to do. You gonna be able to do nothing. You got it right.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Hold tight, boy. Hold tight.
Host/Moderator
You know what I'm saying? This is kind of like the other. Other Game seven, Western Conference final Game seven. I mean, game six, we thought it was going. I said. I apologize. I said game seven. But game six, yes, with the T. Wolves and the spurs and. Yes, sir, the opposing team, the team that went. The road team came in and beat the brakes off him. And the game wasn't really close. And this was the same situation, and it was a perfect example. It was a perfect combination. When nobody play you. What? What'd you get from Rudy? Nothing. What'd you Get. What'd you get from Drew Randall? Nothing. And then you got Wimby, you got Stefan Castle, you got Dylan Harper, you got all those guys played well. And guess what you got. You got a 30 point victory. Well, you got a 31 point victory tonight.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, there you go. If.
Host/Moderator
If you're at home and your guys, you got. I mean, look, I don't think they really counting on anything. Anything that Gobert gives you offensively, you graciously accept you looking at him to, you know, get you about three or four block shots, alter some other shots, get your double digit rebounds, give you some second chance opportunities. But if he gives you 8, 10 points, you like, oh my goodness.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Host/Moderator
But Drew Randall, you expecting 15 to 20 from Jew on a nightly basis. And he was horrible.
ISO Joe Johnson
I agree.
Host/Moderator
Ain't no way around it.
ISO Joe Johnson
He was, he was, man. He was. It was.
Host/Moderator
Is that me?
ISO Joe Johnson
It was. It was bad. It was bad for the team. You still on Ojo? Yo, what you got going, bro?
Joe Ocho (Joe)
You know, I had, I had Sunday league tonight.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, you had what, you had to ice up a little bit?
Joe Ocho (Joe)
No, no, no, no, no, no. You know, I always wrap my hand. I always wrap my hand, my left hamstring up just to make sure, you know, I'm gonna pull. I don't pull, Joe. You know, you know I play Sunday league at Kendall Soccer park every Sunday.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, yeah.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Hey, Joe, you know 11B11. You know, the big, the big field, Joe. Yeah, I'm the striker. Joey got a ass whoop tonight, boy.
Host/Moderator
More of that to come. More of that to come.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Nah, nah, we gonna be good. Hey, Joe. It was bad, Joe.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Oh, my God, Joe. I'm talking. We lost like five.
ISO Joe Johnson
Damn.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
But shot. Hey, shout out to my boys, man. Young Kings fc, huh?
ISO Joe Johnson
Damn.
Host/Moderator
Yeah. And you come on and you come straight. Hey, you come on here. You come straight on here. Ain't nothing. He ain't mentioning nothing about no shower, did he, Joe? Come on. Smell like a bucket full of chin straps and jocks. Hold on. I bet he smelling nothing like jocks and chin straps.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Listen, I'm gonna take a shower. When I go to bed, I had. I had to come home and get right in front of the TV so I can make sure I could tell y' all about how y' all don't
Host/Moderator
know the game of basketball. I told you. Coming out here smelling like number a basket full of jocks.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Hold on. Hey, Joe, what did I tell you about when I shower, I Shower every what?
ISO Joe Johnson
What?
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Every Friday.
Host/Moderator
Hold on.
ISO Joe Johnson
But you just played a game, bro.
Host/Moderator
You got.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
So tonight. Tonight is an exception. I'm a shower after we finish.
Host/Moderator
And he plays sports in jockey shorts. He don't wear no jock like everybody else. Joe, he was jockey.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Matter of fact. Hey, hey, I ain't wearing no. No shorts when I.
Host/Moderator
Well, you wear compression.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
No, I ain't wearing nothing.
Host/Moderator
You free?
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I just put my pants on.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, man.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Hey, hey, hey, Joe, I. Hey, Joe, I need. I don't want no restrictions.
Host/Moderator
I need to be the restriction man. Puss man, nobody. Oh, Lord, this man here.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
I'm. I'm just telling you. I'm telling you. Hey, listen, I. That's why
Host/Moderator
I had a. I had a teammate played. He. He. He wasn't. Was no jock. He played in jockey shorts. Fruit and looms.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, real.
Host/Moderator
That was.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, I only know one teammate of mine who play. Hold on. When you say a jockey, that's when your backside out, right? Hey, hey, that joker Bo Outlaw. And he ain't. Look, he played in. He played in the Jockey. He did not play about you patting him on his butt after a good play. He did not play that. You know what I'm saying?
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Yeah.
Host/Moderator
Ocho, you need to go ahead. You should have showered with the Ocho.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You know what's more important than showering? Making sure I sit in front of the TV and I watch the entirety of the Cavs and Pistons game. And then once the game ends, I'm on here to talk about this.
Host/Moderator
Huh?
Joe Ocho (Joe)
That's more important.
Host/Moderator
Oh, Joe, you don't hear that battery? That smoke? Detective, take the battery out.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Oh, you can hear it?
Host/Moderator
Yeah, we can hear it. How you think I'm able to tell you? Oh, Joe, take the battery out.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Hey, listen, now, you know, you know, you know I'm black. Now. You know how. You know how black. Black household always got the smoke detector battery going.
Host/Moderator
Just. All you gotta do is just take the thing off and take the battery out.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Hold on, let me. Let me see if I can get up there. That thing kind of hiding now, you know, I got 20. 20 foot ceilings.
Host/Moderator
Oh, Lord have mercy.
ISO Joe Johnson
Here you go. Here you go.
Host/Moderator
Your funky ass. That funk go all the way to the top of the ceiling too.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, man.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Hold on. Let me see if I. Let me see if I can reach your home.
Host/Moderator
That's what you call them. That's a ew meter. Ew, he funky. Is that what going on, Joe?
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Hold on, let me see if I can reach it.
Host/Moderator
Hey, hey, hey.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Matter of fact, baby, baby, I know you watching. Bring, bring me the ladder, please. The little step ladder.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, here he go. Hey, listen.
Host/Moderator
Huh?
ISO Joe Johnson
I think Cleveland coming into this game seven, they had a real talk with Mobile and Allen because I noticed, I noticed that the pick and roll was set a lot higher tonight than what it's normally been. Meaning it probably they came up way beyond the three point line and said the pick and roll so Donovan and, and James can have more room to operate off the pick and roll. And they were more playmakers tonight than anything. You know what I mean? Yeah. Donovan had 26, but he has some hell of a passes. I thought James has some hell of a passes because Detroit was trapping the pick and roll. And out of the pick and roll, when we throw it out, the pick and roll, the Allen, the Mobley, we need y' all to go make a play, man. They making plays all night.
Host/Moderator
They was doing Allen getting down there, banging Mobley getting all the way down. And I was like, hold on. When we was talking about this, I said, Joe Mobley, I said, if you look at the matchup, okay, if you take Duran, he plays Allen, that means Tobias Harris got to pay Mobley. Mobley is 7 foot. Tobias is 6, 7, 6, 8. He has a decided advantage. He's a guy, he should have been playing like this the entire series. Put his ass down on your back and said, son, I'm finna work you. You finna get this work.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Host/Moderator
And tonight that's what he did. He wasn't selling for no. He wasn't selling for no. 3, even though he shot four, which was four more that I would like to see. But I thought he was really, really aggressive.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah. And hey, look, he gotta take this confidence into this next series because he's gonna be the difference maker. Who, who, who does the Knicks have playing? The four they normally would have played next year. Yeah. So if he ain't playing, then who he probably gonna have guarding him?
Host/Moderator
I would. Because you're probably gonna have, you're gonna have heart and, and, and, and, and
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Host/Moderator
That's. It's gonna be interesting because you can't.
ISO Joe Johnson
It's probably gonna be hard.
Host/Moderator
You can't play. You can't play Mitchell and Robinson and Nope, nope.
ISO Joe Johnson
They may. They may try one game if, if you know things don't go don't, don't go as planned. But I feel like Mobley gonna have a mismatch every night even if he got Josh Hart gardening.
Host/Moderator
Oh yeah.
ISO Joe Johnson
You know if he take advantage and be aggressive like he was tonight, man. Listen, they. I mean they got a chance to make this a series. But I just think due to the rest that the Knicks have had and due to Cleveland coming off a seven game series, obviously an emotional win. Game seven one day of rest going into New York. Good luck they might get the dose blew off their ass Game one They
Host/Moderator
better find a way to shut down Bronson cause he he licking his chop. He said this is the closest I ever been.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh they got a chance bro. They got a real chance to get to the finals.
Host/Moderator
Yeah and SGA won his second consecutive NF NBA Most Valuable Player, becoming the 14th player to win back to back MVPs in league history. That honor was overshadowed by Shams announced at 12 hours before the award that the NBA posted promoting the announcement. Some are giving Sean the benefit of the doubt saying he accidentally scheduled it for an AM instead of a PM. One thing for sure, Sean's gonna spoil an MVP announcement for prime and NBA and I'm sure they aren't happy about that. I think it's because Sean's had free scheduled tweet but confused with AM and PM it was supposed to be announced at 7:30pm blah blah blah but instead it was tweeted at 7:30am FGA back to back MVP notes ESPN research number one seed NBA high 64 wins despite the third most third most teams game missed due to injuries the first player to win consecutive MVPs since Nikola Jokic did it in 2021202221 through 22 the first guard to win consecutive MVPs since Stephen Curry did it in 2014-2016. The first guard to average 30 points on 55 shooting in NBA history. He joined Michael Jordan as the only players to average 30 points 5 assists on 50 shooting in four consecutive seasons in league history. He did not did not score below 20 points in all games this season. He's the third player to score 20 plus points in every game of the season. Wilt did it in 61 62, 63 64. Elgin did it in 61 62. The plus, the plus minus. The plus 78 in one season is a hundred points better. This oh Well I say 688. Okay the 788 on the season. As far as plus minus he's a plus 788 is a hundred points better than the next closest player which is Victor Wimbanyama at 682. I don't think it was a surprise. I know yoke average a triple double. He was sensational. There are a lot of guys that was that was deserving But I think Shay, given what this team was able to do, 60 plus 64 wins again, the 30 points again 35 and basically shooting 55% and average 30, which is no guard has ever shot that from the floor in the 80 year NBA history. So he's done something nobody has ever done. A lot of stuff you see that done. Wilt did it twice, Elgin did it that great 61, 62 season where everybody had what's had crazy numbers. But what do we say back to back MVPS now when it's all said now he Joe the next five, seven years. How high can he go on the list?
ISO Joe Johnson
I. I think first off it was well deserving. You know, congrats to Shay. Back to back MVPs. How high can he go up on the list? I think it's going to determine in this next series if you want me to keep it 100 with you. This is probably going to be his biggest task. You know, even, even playing against Indiana last year in the finals. I think we all figured that they would beat Indiana and Indiana made it a series. But I think a lot of us has mixed feelings about this spurs and Thunder series that's coming up. And Shay didn't have to be great against the Lakers, but damn it, I tell you what, he gonna have to pull a rabbit out the hat against the Spurs. He gonna have to be special against these boys. They got too many weapons, bro. Too many guys who they, they're built just like okc. A bunch of guys who can go off the dribble, guys who can catch and shoot. I mean they got the defensive player of the year. It's. This is gonna be a tough matchup for okc. I still have OKC winning this though.
Host/Moderator
Yeah. I mean when you look, we never in my wildest imagination that I think he could be this. I thought he'd be a good player. I thought he averaged 20 point. I did average 20, 22 points a game. You know, watched him a little bit and when he's at the Clippers, watched him when he was early on in his career when he was with okc. But if you're gonna tell me this man's gonna average four consecutive years and averaging 30 points shooting at the level that he's shooting it at. Get the hell out of here. That man, they shoot they man 30 points.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
You see what I mean? You know what I mean? That's why y' all need to listen to me.
Host/Moderator
Ain't nobody.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Hold on, listen. When I, when he was with the Clippers, I'M I'm the first one that stood on the table 10 toes and said, listen, that young bull gonna be special. I saved him average 25. I said it, Joe. I was the first one to say, I'm the first one on record to say, I don't understand why they let them go. Kawhi. I understand because it's Kawhi. He coming off a championship and all that. But this young bull is going to be special. He could change the trajectory of the Cliff and franchise if they keep him and just be patient. But no, they didn't want to listen. They didn't want to listen to me.
ISO Joe Johnson
Well, listen, I saw this.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
I saw this long ago.
ISO Joe Johnson
Listen, we are prisoners of the moment right now. But at that current time, when they traded him Ocho, they wanted. Kawhi, wanted Paul George. Paul George was playing out of his damn mind at that point, you know what I mean?
Host/Moderator
I think he finished real high up on the MVP voting, Joe. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he did.
ISO Joe Johnson
He was special, bro. I ain't gonna lie. So I, I can kind of see where Kawhi was going when he's like, damn, if I'm going back home, play for the Clippers. I want y' all to bring Paul Jones. I can see that. I understand that. I'm not, you know, living in this moment right now to where we say, damn, well, Paul George has been pedestrian. That was a bad trade at the time. I. I don't really, I don't look at it like that, bro. I think as time went on, the guy has. I mean, hell, look what he's done over the past three, four years, man, at OKC.
Host/Moderator
Meaning average of 30, dude shooting 50 back to back MVPs. Finals MVP with a championship has an opportunity to go back to back. I mean, what. Jordan did that. Hold on.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
LeBron.
Host/Moderator
LeBron did it in 12 and 13. He won back to back MVP and Finals MVPs. I think Jordan did it. I don't think Bird didn't do it. Bird won three consecutive 84, 85. But Bird never won back to back MVPs. They went 81, 84, 86. If you remember, Jordan Magic, them beat them in 85 after the Memorial Day massacre. They lost by like 35 points. And everybody thought it was over. And then Kareem come back and Kareem dominated the rest of the series. So I'm trying to think, oh, I
ISO Joe Johnson
mean, I'm trying to check this out.
Host/Moderator
I don't even know if Magic did it. He might hold 87, 88, Magic 100, 87, 88. They won back to back. He knew he won. He won because Magic won. No, Jordan. The Jordan. When did Jordan win? Okay, 89, 90. But they didn't win. But they didn't win the championship. They didn't win the championship either year because Detroit beat them in 89. Because Detroit won back to back. Yeah, and then 87. Hey, listen, Magic won the MVP in 87. And. And then Jordan won the MVP in 88 because Jordan had. If I'm not mistaken, Jordan had the historic year where he averaged like 37. Joe. Yeah, I'm trying to think. I'm trying to go back to. Go back to somebody that won back to back MVPs and back to back championships. It might have been Jordan. You might have go back to. Got to go back to Jordan and 91. 92.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Host/Moderator
Or maybe
Joe Ocho (Joe)
90.
Host/Moderator
No. Yeah, 97. 92. Because Barkley wanted in 93. And then Carl Malone snuck in there and wanted one of them years. The car balloon wanted in 97 over the 98.
ISO Joe Johnson
And that. Yeah, that. Hey, that pissed Jordan off. That's why he bust both of their ass up in the finals. Hey, listen, check this out. Hey, we got to get a Canadian some love, bro. Drake then dropped three damn albums. He killing the job. Hell, Shadow won back to back damn MVPs. I'm thinking to myself, damn, Shay bought them boys Rolexes last year. Hell, he bought them ap. Damn. Yeah, yeah.
Host/Moderator
Hey, we do something. I'm get y' all ap. AP autograph. Hey, hey, Adrian Peterson's autograph.
ISO Joe Johnson
That's.
Host/Moderator
That's the AP that y' all gonna get.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Hey, listen. Hey, hey, hey, listen. Let me. Listen to me, Uncle Joe. I'm about. I'm about to come into some, you know, some big money real quick, right? I'm about to come to some good stuff. Well, I got some good. I got some good gifts for y', all, boy.
Host/Moderator
Do you.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Hey, you. You think. You think. You think Shay did something nice?
ISO Joe Johnson
You gonna be at the top of ap, man.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
But I'm giving you something with four wheels and a steering wheel, boy. You hear me?
Host/Moderator
What?
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Yeah, man. I don't play. I don't play. Hey, just. Just to show. Hey, just to show my appreciation, he
ISO Joe Johnson
get my hopes up. High up.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Hey, hey, one thing about it, you know, when I give gifts, boy, I don't play about that, boy. You hear me?
Host/Moderator
I mean, hey, if.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
If. If I'm lying, I'm playing.
Host/Moderator
Well, you know, I need to make a call. I need to call to see what type of gifts you normally be giving. You normally give.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Oh, I. Oh, I. I get giving that if. How about this? Hey, Joe, think about this, Joe. Hey, I'm thinking about this real quick.
Host/Moderator
Think.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Think about the way I tip the service industry and people I only. I don't even know, Right? What you think I'm gonna do for y' all to show my appreciation, huh?
Host/Moderator
What we talking about, Joe? Make this make sense. He'll t. He'll tip a stranger 500,000, 1500. He been knowing me. I can't even get my little paper.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, man.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Hey, this. This is the difference, though. Hey, Joe, you got to understand, Joe, this. This the service industry. You hear me? Joe? Joe, listen to me.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
I'm not. I'm not in a position of power to change minimum wage. You hear me?
ISO Joe Johnson
Right, Right.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
I make do just so when I go eat at a restaurant.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
I don't care how your service is because I already know the. You'd have had to deal with before I got there.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
I'm temp you a thousand dollars or
ISO Joe Johnson
better every time, even if your meal come out to 60.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Joe. I don't care, because they need that. They got to live off that.
Host/Moderator
I need my meal.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Hey, hey, hey, hey, Joe, listen, Unc rich, man.
Host/Moderator
Unc rich.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
You know, uncle, he ain't hurting. Hey, hey, hey, Joe, if Unc really need that 5,900, man. Here, man, take the t. Take that little change. You feel me?
ISO Joe Johnson
I think he really did it, though. I think he wanted. I mean, to have it in his pocket.
Host/Moderator
Time, you know? Time, time, time. You know what I'm saying?
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Host/Moderator
I mean, it's easy. They used to be Joe and Ocho. Yeah.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Hey, hey, Joe just went to a legging game. It cost150,000 to sit courtside.
Host/Moderator
No, you ain't. No, you saw that. Hey, you saw the next ticket. I bet he ain't mentioned no more about no damn next ticket, Joe.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, I bet he ain't.
Host/Moderator
Then what court size ticket going for at Knicks game?
ISO Joe Johnson
How much are they? About six.
Host/Moderator
I sent you the thing. 150. Oh, they had. So they had something like 60. They had a couple for, like, 150
ISO Joe Johnson
also.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Oh, that's why Josh Hardy hit me back. Okay, I get it.
ISO Joe Johnson
They gonna get it, too.
Host/Moderator
Hey, think about it. Think about how long.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hold on.
Host/Moderator
They were in the. They were in the Eastern Conference finals last year, right? Indiana beat them.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Host/Moderator
So they was like. And they think. You know how the Knicks think. Anytime they get this far, they Thinking they going all the way.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah. Hey, hey, listen, though. But they got a damn good chance because see, by. By Cleveland winning, New York has home court advantage on the Ocho. So the first two games gonna be in New York versus. If they'd have played Detroit, they had to travel to Detroit. So I. I think there's a great chance that. That the Knicks could advance to the finals and play either OKC or the Spurs. But I don't think it's gonna be that easy playing against the Cavs. I think the first game might be a little lopsided due to. I'm saying the first game, Ocho probably gonna be a little lopsided. Knicks gonna win. I'm saying they gonna beat the Cavs first game because I just feel like due to the travel and the one game arrest. Hell, they finna. It's Sunday, bro. They play Tuesday.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Okay. Hey, I just want to make sure you're on point with your decision making, Joe, because you've been real bad the past few weeks.
Host/Moderator
Hey, hey, Joe. Ocho, if you want to buy Cambodia or something, I got a couple of purses I'm looking to get up off of. I got a. I got a limited edition lv. I got that.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Wait, which one?
Host/Moderator
Big. That big Chanel extra double X.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Yeah, we got two. We got two of them already. I need.
Host/Moderator
Listen, that Speedy, that 30 Speedy, they came out with the. Remember, they came out with a blue, they came out with a yellow, they came out with a green.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
ISO Joe Johnson
This one.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Hold on, hold on.
ISO Joe Johnson
I'm saying. I'm saying, what you.
Host/Moderator
What you do?
ISO Joe Johnson
What you got these for?
Host/Moderator
What you do? I told you, Joe, what happened. Now if I give you something, it's your. I'm like, the price is right. Once you buy. Not the price is right. I'm like the wheel of fortune. Once you buy a prize, it's yours to keep.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Hey, yeah, you talk about this one.
Host/Moderator
Yeah, but see, my. That. The one I got is. Is a speedy look. I know. Yeah, I had that. I sent that back because I was like, hey, that's.
ISO Joe Johnson
That's. That's a men bag for.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
For a woman.
Host/Moderator
Either way, this.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
This, this. This for my baby boy.
Host/Moderator
Cause you know what? If you look, you see Pharrell WILLIAMS Carry it, LeBron carry it. Yeah, you see a lot of NBA players carry that bag.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Hey, yeah, yeah. Only you see, I'm. I'm see this, this, this, this. Like, you know, I ain't. I ain't give it to her yet. See, that's why it's down here with me. So I. You know, I messed up. I had this hitting.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, man.
Host/Moderator
You just called to my baby, hey, break that step ladder down here. She. She might have didn't know it, but she know it now.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
No,
Host/Moderator
no, Joe, I'm. We're thinking about getting somebody they cut up. I said, you know what? Let me go and put this up here.
ISO Joe Johnson
Are you saying they cut up before?
Host/Moderator
Yeah, before I was there. Before they. I was able to get to it.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Host/Moderator
Hey, hey.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
So you ain't. You ain't. You ain't think to give. Give it to him after?
Host/Moderator
Hell, no.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
So you just. You just hold on to them.
Host/Moderator
Somebody go get it.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Okay. What's her name?
ISO Joe Johnson
He ain't telling.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Put a name on it. Don't be ashamed.
Host/Moderator
I got a couple of. What you call them, too. YSLs. They. Not that. You know, ain't nothing.
ISO Joe Johnson
Damn.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
They're not special.
Host/Moderator
Special about the YSL. That double X Chanel that they made in 2018.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Hey, I like. I get mine most of the time, Joe. That's what I use as my diaper bag. Joe.
ISO Joe Johnson
Huh?
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Yeah, you. I use the double XL Chanel as my diaper bag.
ISO Joe Johnson
But you ain't got no. You ain't got no babies, though, Joe.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Hey, Joe.
ISO Joe Johnson
One little French fry.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Yeah, but she ain't little no more. Matter of fact, all the kids hardy. I met all of them.
Host/Moderator
Yeah. Hey, my sister, man. My sister. Necklaces and bracelets.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Yeah. Oh, oh, that you gave back.
Host/Moderator
I told you, if I give it to you once, it's like I get to you your birthday offense. X, Y, and Z.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Right, right.
Host/Moderator
It's yours. Right. But if I go, because I like to buy stuff ahead of time, I don't like to the last minute, so I like. Okay. Her birthday is such and such. Like. Okay, let me go ahead and get this. I got a little. Yeah, yeah. I don't want to be, you know, run out of money. I got it while I got some money. I go ahead and get it. Right, right, right. Then all of a sudden, they start acting up. Hey, living here. You want this? Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Hold on. So is this before you give it to them or you take it back?
Host/Moderator
Yeah. They don't never get it. So I ain't no Indian, Gilbert, because they never received it.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh.
Host/Moderator
Now if they receive it.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Wait a minute. Wait, wait, wait.
Host/Moderator
I don't care. I don't care about that.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
So depending on the purchase of a gift, you know, let's say something above 50, 000, you don't take it back and get.
Host/Moderator
No, you let them keep it like a gift. Gift. I'm only like a couple of those. Oh, Joe, that ain't no. I got.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, I'm gonna say get that. Hey, what'd you do, Ojo?
Host/Moderator
Well, he let him have it.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Yeah, I. I do. I. I wolf. And I was gonna ask my Maybach back, but I. I thought about it because the baby need to be able to get around and stuff. So I just. I just.
Host/Moderator
Honda, too, though. Hey, Joe. Honda, Volkswagen. Oh, yeah, yeah. Hey, Passata. Get him around.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
It all gets you. Hey, it all gets you from point A to B. You hear me?
Host/Moderator
Damn.
ISO Joe Johnson
You gave up with Maybach.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Yeah, yeah, it's. It's cool. Joe, I didn't. Made that money back, man. 10 times over.
ISO Joe Johnson
Joe, I ain't tripping, okay?
Joe Ocho (Joe)
And you know that. That's. That. That's. That's my dog. You hear me? That's my dog. You know, ain't no. Ain't no bad blood.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah. Yeah.
Host/Moderator
I ain't getting no May back, though, Ojo.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Hey, hey, it's cool. It's cool. You know, God been good to me.
Host/Moderator
You're right. He been good. He been good to us. I'm gonna get it back. I get it back in the hassle life in the gold, through all that. Try to get an attorney and get it back. And you spend all this money and all that. Ain't worth it. Ain't worth it. Just go ahead and keep it. You know what? One of the. One of the best lines I heard is change. Told me he said somebody, some lady stole something from him. Chains. They totally say, if you can live with it, I can live without it. Yeah, that's how I am now. If you can live with it, I can live without it.
ISO Joe Johnson
Right?
Host/Moderator
I like it because I'm gonna go get it. I'm gonna get it. I'm gonna get it back. It might take me a year, it might take me two years. It might take me three, four years, but I'm gonna get it back.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yes.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Hey, hey, speaking of. Hey, you know, it just. It just dawned on me, right? You know, we got Christmas coming up, so I like to do things ahead of time. Joe, you hit me.
ISO Joe Johnson
Damn. Coming up.
Host/Moderator
What you mean?
ISO Joe Johnson
What you mean, we got Christmas. Whoa, whoa.
Host/Moderator
Christmas, man. Hello. We ain't even got Father's Day. What the hell?
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Hold on. Hey, hey, I. I start Christmas early. I. I prepare mentally on what I want to do. You hear me? So I, I asked, I asked my people, Joe and aunt. I say, man, listen, I just threw the hint out there, like, man, you know, you know, so, you know, when you come in town, you know, it'd be nice to have, you know, something for you to ride in, you know, would you. What you like? You Is anything out there you like? Yeah, I'm just throwing the hint out there and like, you know, oh, it don't matter. I'm like, like, like, what, what are we doing? So I'm trying to, I'm trying to be a little bit more direct to get, to get a, a, a gift, you know, ahead of time. And I don't understand why this individual is not really understanding what I'm trying to say.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, she don't, she don't live in Miami.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
No, no, no. Out there in Boston, you know, She a Celtics fan.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, man. So what you think about getting us?
Joe Ocho (Joe)
I, I, I've been trying to like, to get, to get it out of it. She like playing all, oh, it don't matter. I would think about maybe a little range or something.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah. She'll be appreciative you get out, right?
Host/Moderator
I ain't bought myself, you know, in a minute. She was like, you gonna get something?
ISO Joe Johnson
I'm like, nah.
Host/Moderator
She's like, this the longest.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
You just bought a 700. You just bought a 700.
Host/Moderator
A BMW, that don't count. This is the longest I've had the. I've never, I've only put 50, 000 miles on one car and 40 years of owning vehicles. One time I put 50,000. I've only put 30, 000 on the car. I've only gone over 30, 000 on two cars in my life.
ISO Joe Johnson
That mean you be at the damn house. I'll be chilling my BMW.
Host/Moderator
I gotta be. I got a BMW. It's, it'll be seven years old. I got 12, 273 miles on it.
ISO Joe Johnson
Damn. You gonna be going, no damn. Well, seven years old with 12, 000 miles.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
That's crazy.
Host/Moderator
I don't joke. My Range Rover. I got a range rover is 13 years old. It's still, it got 39, 000 miles on it.
ISO Joe Johnson
Damn.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Hey, why don't you upgrade? I'll get the new one.
Host/Moderator
Did you want the garage like that one?
Joe Ocho (Joe)
I mean, just, just up, Just update it. Just update it.
Host/Moderator
Hell no.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Hey, listen.
Host/Moderator
Matter of fact, Shelly put most of those miles on it because when Shelly came to California, she needs something to get around so she don't have to Rent. No car. She drive it. Shelly put more miles on it.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
So how about you put shell into 20, 26?
Host/Moderator
Oh, no, Shelly, that. That. That 20. That 2013 is just fine. Just fine.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Hey, hey. It's a few things we need. We need to. We need to upgrade. We need to upgrade your car. Your car system, brother.
Host/Moderator
I brought my brother car, But you don't want nothing.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
I didn't got all the kids out the.
Host/Moderator
I'm gonna steal it and drive it in the lake.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, man.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Joanna got all the kids new cars, too.
ISO Joe Johnson
Damn.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Yeah, I just got. I mean, I got them all out the way.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, your kids, they spoil, ain't it? Oh, Joe.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Joe, I just. You know, I got. Got my. Got Benz. C.J. got a Tesla. Gigi got a Tesla. Uh, Savvy's up next. He's, uh. He only. He only a sophomore, so. He up next.
ISO Joe Johnson
He a sophomore in high school.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he'll be up next, but right now I'm in the middle fold, so I'm like. I'm like, you know what? Let me get something nice for my baby, you know, when she come down here, you know, so she has something nice to drive. And, you know, I just. You can't be. You can't. You're not driving my McLaren. You're not touching my goddamn Tesla, you know, my cybertruck. So just have you something nice, something girly like.
ISO Joe Johnson
Man, get. Hey, get a. Get her that Gle Mercedes truck. You seen. Y' all see Mercedes trucks?
Joe Ocho (Joe)
The G Wagon.
Host/Moderator
No, no, no. The Gle. It's nice. Yeah, I like. I like it.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
They kind of.
Host/Moderator
You know what I think? I think that. That Land Rover. That Land Rover for the. For the women, you know, the Defender. Yeah, man, I like that. I like that.
ISO Joe Johnson
I like that. I like that. Yeah, I like that Defender.
Host/Moderator
I need something you to drive because I don't like riding.
ISO Joe Johnson
I don't.
Host/Moderator
I don't. I don't let nobody drive me. No, no, I can't ride with nobody, man.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Hey, you look like the Maybach type of dude, you know, long. The little Ben style. Yeah, that. That look like you.
Host/Moderator
I may. But I'm gonna back out, so. No, it ain't happening. That's the only. That's the only back I'm getting. Nah, I like. Hey, I got what I got. I'm good. I'm good. I think. I think I get another two. I think I get another two years out of that range ain't got 39, 000 miles on it.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
I feel you, but it just. It just don't look right on the road. It's 22. It's gonna be 20, 28.
ISO Joe Johnson
Ocho.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Yes, sir.
ISO Joe Johnson
The GLE AMG, bro.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Hold on, let me. Let me see what this is, man. You got the same shape as a Maybach truck, right?
ISO Joe Johnson
No, it's like that shaped like. Like a bubble.
Host/Moderator
The GLS, the 550.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
A GLE 63AMG, Joe.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Oh, nah, Joe, that.
Host/Moderator
That's.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
That's. That's too. That's too. That's too high school, Joe.
ISO Joe Johnson
That is.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Yeah, I'm looking at it right now. It looked like a little. Like a little bubble.
Host/Moderator
Oh, yeah,
Joe Ocho (Joe)
yeah. I don't like that. That. That's. That's more for my daughter.
ISO Joe Johnson
Damn.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
I mean, my daughter. My daughter drive something like that right now. I just got her something like that right here.
Host/Moderator
I'm gonna stick over here over this. I'm gonna drive this here a little bit a little while longer.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Hey, Joe. I like that. I like the Range Rover, Joe.
ISO Joe Johnson
No, no, I. I understand. My. My lady got a range.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Yeah, see, See, I like it right now.
ISO Joe Johnson
Whoa, whoa.
Host/Moderator
All of a sudden, I don't like them defenders no more, man. The thing's 170,000. That's more than. Oh, no, I don't like that. I hate them. They ugly. Oh, no. Hey, man, I don't know what the hell I was thinking. Hey, what kind of car that Land Rover Defender.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, so when I. When I take the car. When I take the Range Rover to get it serviced, you know, typically, they. I get a Defender. I drove one a new. Oh, hey, they nice, Joe.
Host/Moderator
They nice.
ISO Joe Johnson
They nice, bro.
Host/Moderator
Oh, no, I can't.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Hey, Joe, you sure junk. You. You sure that's the right price?
Host/Moderator
Huh?
ISO Joe Johnson
What.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
How can. How can the Land Rover Defender cost more than a goddamn rainbow?
Host/Moderator
It's maxed out, though. It's.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Host/Moderator
I was like, oh, no, but they ain't cheap, Ocho.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I see him. They had about 180 grand. Yeah.
Host/Moderator
I said, nah, I'm good. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go on this here paid for. I'm good. I. I ain't going nowhere in a hurry anyway. Hey, you know, what are you. Oh, Joe, you know, you in the league, man. Hey, every two, three years, I got me something new.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah, that car fade.
Host/Moderator
I. I had it, you know, 600 Benz. Had a Bentley, had the mother Bentley, one of 10 had a Rolls Royce, had a Range Rover, had a Denali.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, did y'.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
All.
ISO Joe Johnson
Did y' all had him? You remember them 760s when they came out?
Host/Moderator
That's what I did.
ISO Joe Johnson
BMW.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Yes, the BMW.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Host/Moderator
What I got right now, Matt.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, yeah, you said that's what you got now.
Host/Moderator
Ketchup guts.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Okay.
ISO Joe Johnson
They're red and tears set it off in time.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Okay, okay, okay.
Host/Moderator
Damu.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Okay, I gotta have.
Host/Moderator
Yeah, yeah, I'm awake. I'll. Give me. Give me two years. I'll pop out with something.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah.
Host/Moderator
Okay.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
Well, I'll wait for you then.
Host/Moderator
Okay.
Joe Ocho (Joe)
When you get something, I get something.
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In this lively episode of Nightcap Hour 1, Shannon Sharpe (host and Hall of Famer), with recurring co-hosts Chad "Ocho Cinco" Johnson (Joe Ocho) and ISO Joe Johnson, dive into the Cavaliers' dismantling of the Pistons in Game 7 to reach the Eastern Conference Finals. They celebrate Donovan Mitchell and James Harden beating past playoff narratives, break down the game’s X-factors, and discuss what this result means for Detroit’s future. The group also unpacks Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (SGA) winning his second consecutive NBA MVP, sparking conversation about current league dynamics, legacy, and their own ball knowledge–with plenty of laughs and banter.
Cavaliers dominated Detroit from start to finish:
Other Cleveland Standouts:
Balanced Scoring, Team Win:
Joe Ocho on the team’s mindset:
“For James Harden having a bad game, this is why they call it a team sport. Everybody else stepped up... Sam Merrill, boy, he showed out tonight...” (13:03)
ISO Joe on the bigs:
“If Evan Mobley and Jared Allen gonna play like this…they gonna be tough to beat. I, I, I. Kudos to Cleveland for coming in on the road...” (14:43)
Pistons Lacked Energy and Support:
Turnover Differential Was Crucial:
ISO Joe:
“...if you can’t make a damn shot wide open in this league, bro, it’s gonna be hard to win with guys like that. I’m just keeping it real...” (15:14)
Host/Moderator (Shannon Sharpe):
“To whom much is given, much is required. You gotta take care of the ball...” (19:17)
“They need another guard who can really get money...I don’t know if it’s possible, but Devin Booker...You need a bona fide score next to Cade...” (29:11)
Predictions and Matchups:
Rest/Fatigue Factor:
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander’s Historic Run:
Legacy Discussions—How High Can SGA Climb?
“He’s done something nobody has ever done...” (49:10)
“Not only am I going to outdo you in your own game...Wait until I see you one on one.” (35:22)
“You saying you gonna outplay me, too?...this here me getting these picks wrong...don’t do nothing but piss me off for when I do see you.” (35:31)
On team play and stepping up:
“You know, the difference was Cleveland played really well. Detroit played bad. I mean, they couldn't stop anybody...That is a bad combination.” — Host (14:20)
On Cade Cunningham’s challenge:
“Cade has to be great, and I’m not talking about good. He has to be great every single game for them to have a chance. If he plays bad, they’re not winning. It’s really that simple.” — Host (17:41)
On SGA’s achievement:
“He’s done something nobody has ever done...No guard has ever shot that from the floor in the 80-year NBA history.” — Host (49:10)
On friendship and competition:
“You know the game better than me...The fact that I’m beating you at your own game, what does that tell you?” — Joe Ocho (35:14)
This Nightcap Hour 1 delivers a fast-paced, deeply knowledgeable, and humor-laced deconstruction of the Cavs’ blowout Game 7 win, underscoring the importance of balanced team play and clutch performances. The group outlines the Pistons’ biggest offseason questions and projects how the Cavs-Knicks series might play out. Celebrating SGA’s historic back-to-back MVP run, they contextualize where he ranks historically among NBA greats. The show blends smart hoops analysis with locker-room style banter, moving between basketball, life lessons, and luxury cars for a well-rounded, entertaining hour with sports’ most personable minds.