Nightcap Hour 1: Celtics DESTROY the Heat + Make Washington Jr. JOINS Nightcap + Gary Owen CRACKS JOKES & Ocho OFFICIATES Wedding

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Nightcap Hour 1: Celtics DESTROY the Heat + Mike Washington Jr. Joins + Gary Owen CRACKS JOKES & Ocho OFFICIATES Wedding

Date: April 2, 2026
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson, Joe Johnson
Special Guests: Mike Washington Jr., Gary Owen

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Episode Overview

This vibrant episode of “Nightcap” on Club Shay Shay blends sharp NBA playoff talk, an inspiring NFL draft hopeful interview, and a hilarious segment with comedian Gary Owen—including a behind-the-scenes look at a star-studded wedding officiated by Ocho himself. The lively banter and genuine camaraderie between hosts and guests make for an episode rich in insight, laughs, and memorable stories.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Boston Celtics’ Dominance Over Miami Heat

Time: 05:06–13:34

• The episode opens with a breakdown of the Celtics’ emphatic 147–129 win over the Miami Heat, led by stellar performances from Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum.
  • Jalen Brown: 43 pts, 7 ast, 4 threes.
  • Jason Tatum: “Trip dub”—25 pts, 18 reb, 11 ast.
  • “Sam Houser chipped in 23 points on 9 of 11 shooting… They did the demolition.” —Ocho [06:02]
• Hosts debate whether the Celtics are the clear favorite in the East, especially with Tatum back:
  • “Since Tatum came back, they’ve been playing amazing basketball… They hear everybody talking about who’s going to come out the East… They’re gearing up for a postseason run.” —Joe Johnson [06:19]
  • Sharpe and Johnson discuss the depth of Boston’s roster, highlighting the value of their “others.”
    • “It’s not just JT and JB… it’s what we call the others. The Peyton Pritchards, Derek Whites, Sam Housers… they’re willing to step up.” —Joe Johnson [09:49]
• The Heat’s respectable stats—making 24 threes, shooting 46%—were no match for Boston’s firepower and bench depth.
  • “They made 24 threes and they shot 46%. So it wasn’t like they shot in the 30s and they lost by 18.” —Ocho [11:09]

Notable Quote

• “They not playing with their food, man. They getting rid of these teams. They understand what’s at stake and they understand the opportunity… that’s to contend for a title.” —Joe Johnson [06:19]

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2. Where Do the Miami Heat Go from Here?

Time: 14:28–19:13

• The crew laments the Heat’s lack of elite talent and questions roster decisions:
  • “Bam is the only one, Joe. Everybody else, you can have him.” —Ocho [14:54]
  • “What is culture without talent? You mediocre. You like the Cowboys… The AC is a play-in… it’s a participation trophy.” —Sharpe [16:02]
• Reflection on Heat’s post-Finals struggles and the danger of mistaking playoff runs for long-term title readiness.

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3. NFL Prospect Segment: Mike Washington Jr.

Time: 21:32–34:53

Introduction & Background

• Mike Washington Jr., Arkansas RB, joins to discuss his journey across three colleges, combine success, and NFL dreams.
  • “I had bounced from school to school, been to three schools… all my hard work paid off just hit me at once.” —Washington Jr. on combine emotions [22:47]

Training, Diet & Mindset

• Washington Jr. explains the focus of his pre-draft regimen—especially on diet and leg work:
  • “I was out there in Fort Myers training at X3… you gotta take care of the nicks and bruises… my first three steps.” [24:13]
  • “It was more protein than really anything else… which was hard for me because I’m a big carb guy.” [25:17]
  • “Don’t get satisfied. Don’t get comfortable, bro. You gotta keep your foot on the gas.” —Joe Johnson [25:53]

Overcoming Adversity & Motivation

• Washington’s winding college career, leaving Buffalo after four RB coaches in three years, the transfer portal, and ultimately choosing Arkansas.
  • “A lot of people said I wasn’t SEC caliber… that was my driving motivation.” [28:40]
  • Models his game after Josh Jacobs: “I’ve been watching him since he was at Alabama… I’ll definitely say him.” [29:21]

Future Outlook & Ball Security

• Focus on fixing fumble issues (“10 fumbles over three seasons”) and preparing for life as a pro.
  • “That’s the quickest way to get your ass off the field is to put that [ball]…” —Ocho [35:32]
  • “I just want you to share this information with you… getting there is easy, staying there is the hard part, man.” —Ocho [34:08]

Notable Quote

• “The journey starts now. Getting [to the NFL] is easy. Staying there is the hard part.” —Ocho [34:08]

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4. Gary Owen Joins: Comedy, Crossover, and a Wild Wedding

Time: 41:45–73:12

Reconnecting with Gary Owen

• Owen reflects on newfound success: “Somehow I got in the algorithms and everything just took off… 100 city tour, selling out everywhere.” [57:14]
• Owen and Ocho reminisce about Cincinnati days: “Chad Johnson’s 2 Funny Tuesday, hosted by Gary Owen… it was packed to the brim. People still talk about that to this day.” —Owen [49:39]

Celebrity Wedding Hijinks

• Gary’s wedding, last-minute officiated by Ocho after 50 Cent cancelled:
  • “I’m not gonna lie—Ocho was the second person I reached out to. Ocho got back the quickest.” [46:22]
  • “He got there on time… black tux, black shirt. If he can do it, you guys should have been able to do it.” [53:10]
  • Hilarious stories of wedding twerk-offs and roasts. “At one point… so much ass was hitting my legs, I almost tore my ACL.” —Owen [51:52]

Comedy Philosophy & Career Longevity

• On Black audience support: “You don’t choose your audience. They choose you. My first chance to get on TV was BET.” —Owen [50:21]
• Reflections on crossing over, being the first/only white comic to host Comic View, and the realities of media algorithms.
• Gary’s candor on divorce, stand-up career, guest spots, and living without a Netflix special (“I’m the last one you need to ask about Netflix, because they say to me every year…” [62:36]).

Shannon Sharpe’s Stand-Up Aspirations

• Lighthearted talk of Sharpe opening for Owen in Vegas:
  • “Hey, what do you call a cow’s knee? … A burger joint.” —Shannon Sharpe (and Gary’s reaction) [62:54]
  • “Be ready. I’ll be waiting in the wings.” —Owen [66:22]

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Memorable Moments & Notable Quotes

• On Celtics dominance:
  “They not playing with their food, man. They getting rid of these teams.” —Joe Johnson [06:19]
• On Heat’s lack of talent:
  “What is culture without talent? You mediocre… you like the Cowboys.” —Shannon Sharpe [16:02]
• Mike Washington Jr. on NFL dreams:
  “Really just everything… I had bounced from school to school… all my hard work paid off just hit me at once.” —Washington Jr. [22:47] “The journey starts now. Getting there is easy, staying there is the hard part.” —Ocho [34:08]
• Gary Owen on wedding officiating:
  “Ocho got back the quickest. So I was like, oh, he got it. Because he called me back immediately.” [46:22] “So much ass was hitting my legs, I almost tore my ACL.” [51:52]
• Sharpe’s comedy ambitions:
  “One day, I promise you, I’m gonna make it big on stage. Somebody’s stage.” —Shannon Sharpe [63:22]
• Chad on crowd generosity:
  “We had games where the games were blacked out, Joe, because they didn’t sell enough tickets… I bought up the rest of the tickets so everybody in Cincinnati could watch the game.” —Ocho [74:29]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Celtics–Heat Discussion: 05:06–13:34
• Heat Roster & Culture Debate: 14:28–19:13
• Mike Washington Jr. Interview: 21:32–34:53
• Gary Owen Joins—Comedy/Wedding Talk: 41:45–73:12
• Celtics Others & NBA Depth: 09:49–13:34
• Shannon’s Standup Routine: 62:36–64:05

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Conclusion

A quintessential “Nightcap,” this episode masterfully balances incisive NBA playoff analysis, the hopeful energy of a future NFL star, and a comedic masterclass from Gary Owen. The hosts’ chemistry and willingness to poke fun (and support) one another, along with candid storytelling and light-hearted wisdom, make this a must-listen for sports fans and comedy lovers alike.

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Transcript

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[Joe Johnson]

Yo, what's good? What's up, fella?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Chilling. Chilling.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

We good on this end?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

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[Joe Johnson]

Right?

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

People actually watch Nightcap. People actually watch Club Shay, and they appreciate our content. They appreciate how we go about things. They might not all always agree with what we say, but they appreciate our honesty. And also, we don't get into the weeds of going back and forth and attacking other podcasts and doing all that other stuff, that's unnecessary. But because creating content, which means you create, you don't let somebody else create content and then you comment on the content they created.

[Joe Johnson]

Right, right, right, right.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

We do it. What we do, we do. We'll continue to do that and thanks to the fan support, we shall continue to grow. The Boston Celtics beat down The Miami Heat 147, 129. Jalen Brown, JB 43 points, 7 assists, 4 May threes. Jason Tatum had a trip dub 25 points, 18 rebounds, 11 assists. Gassy Heard and who was the best duo in the NBA conversation. And they said, hold on man, y' all need to stop playing with us. Sam Houser chipped in 23 points on 9 of 11 shooting from the floor, 5 of 7 from the three point line. Even Quater had 16 points and 11 rebounds. And the bench, Luke Garza 12 points. Peyton Pritchard 14 points. Bailey Sharman had eight points. They did the demolition and, and, and, and the Heat did everything they could. Joe, they were 11 or 15 from the three point line. They cut it down I think to like 8 or 10 to start the fourth and then they go on, then the Celtics go on a seven nothing run and then they never really look back from that because they didn't have an answer for JB and jt. Joe, watching this game, are the Celtics really, really dangerous? Can they really. Are there the team that everybody should be afraid of in the east, coming out of the Eastern Conference and representing the Eastern Conference in the NBA Finals?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, of course they are, Uncle Ocho. Since Tatum came back, they've been playing amazing basketball. They're gearing, they're gearing up for a postseason run. You know what I mean? Like they, they hear the chatters, they hear everybody talking about who's going to come out the east. And obviously with Tatum back and playing at the, at playing the way he's been playing, it's definitely, it's got them at the top of the east right now. I mean they've been playing great basketball. They in sync. They haven't missed a beat. And they got so many weapons, so many guys that could beat you. I didn't know how Tatum was going to look, look coming back, but man, he's looked great. And guess what? They not playing with their food, man. They getting rid of, they getting rid of these teams. They understand what's at stake and they understand the opportunity that they have and that's to contend for a title. And they had a team to do it So I enjoy watching those guys play. I enjoy watching JB to continue to dominate and continue to, you know, being MVP conversations. Although I do not think he will, he will win it, but I think he's done a hell of a job this year, man, and competing on both ends of the floor and keeping the Celtics afloat.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, Unk and Joe, matter of fact, hell, before Jason Tatum came back, what JB was able to do with the Celtics that we thought he wouldn't be able to do was have them contending, have them coming out the east of being one of the top teams to come out the east. And the fact that he kept, he kept that ship afloat without Jason Tatum, where he was in the MVP conversations and, and had them playing as well as they did without jt and then one JT come back, them boys still ain't missed no beat, you know, even though they demolished me heat tonight. You know, that's, that's, that's a whole nother conversation in itself. But man, hey, they look good. They look real good.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

I think the thing that makes them where they were vulnerable before Tatum came back is that if you look at the Knicks, Carl Anthony here there, but they got two guys, they got Brunson and Cat. If you look at Cleveland, they got two guys, they got Mitchell, they got Harden and they were gonna, that was gonna leave JB all by himself.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Now that they got Tatum back to go along with jb, now they got another guy that you know on that can give you 30, 40 points. He can go get your double digit rebounds. Yeah, we saw tonight get a triple dub so he can facilitate, he can run an offense.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

So now that makes them, yeah, they're hands on favorite to come out. I mean I don't, I don't know what the, what, what it was going into the season, but there's no question in my mind they're picked to come out of the Eastern Conference and I understand Detroit with Cade Cunningham having an unbelievable season. Jaylen Duran went to the all star game and those. That's a two headed monster. But they're not this n you talk about two guys that's already been there, done that. Both guys have won an Eastern Conference most valuable player, the Larry Bird Ward, JB has won a finals mvp. Yeah, both of these guys have been all stars. Both of these guys have been all pros, all. Excuse me, all NBA. So there are very few teams that can have that have two guys like that, that have that kind on their resume. You got to go all the way to the, you know, the Western Conference to see two guys that, that have been All Stars and one guy's been a Finals mvp. And you talk about Shay and Jalen Williams and now they got Chad. So they got three guys that's been All Stars.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

And one guy's a Finals mvp. He's probably favored to win this year's regular season MVP as he did last year. You got yo, Kitchen Murray, because so if you look at the Western Conference, they normally have two guys that can come get you.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Now with Boston, with JT and jb.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, I, I, I, I like it, but it's not just J, JT and jb. No, it's, it's what we call the others. Those other guys, the, the Peyton Pritches, the Derek Whites, the Sam Housers, those guys who've been playing this entire season without Tatum, Unc and Ocho, they understand what it's like, you know what I mean? So they know if they needed to be counted on, obviously they gonna come through, they'll win you some games in the postseason. You gonna put a lot of load on Brown and Tatum, but for the most part, you got other guys who willing, who willing to step up and have no problem with stepping up and playing. A big factor, you know, in the Boston Celtics advancing in the postseason. So I like where the Celtics at, man. I'm sure they, I'm sure they're, you know, pretty ecstatic where they at as well, which is probably why Tatum came back and, man, from the looks of it, I mean, 147 points. Okay, Ocho, you, you gonna win the majority of them games, you know, you scoring like that rate.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Oh, Joe, they shot 58 from the floor. They shot 48 from the three. You gonna lose by 20. Yeah, a damn near. You can't let a team shoot that high. Damn near 60% from the floor, the two point line. You let them shoot 48% from the three point line. Even if you made the Heat made 24 threes and they lost by 18 points.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Enough.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

On my team, they had six guys in double figures and lost by 18 points. Wiggins had 13, Bam had 29, Mitchell had 21, Hero had 18, Larson had 18, Hawkez Jr. Had 17. They made 24 threes and they shot 46%. So it wasn't like they shot in the 30s and they lost by 18.

[Joe Johnson]

Boston got a lot, man. Offensively, they a juggernaut like an Ocho. They, I mean, with Tatum back, you figure, okay, maybe I, I, I can Keep one of them at bay. Tatum and.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

But hell with both of them, it's going to be tough because, you know, even though Derrick White didn't have the greatest game tonight, you know, he only shot four shots, but, you know he's capable of coming out and getting you 25, 30 points on any given.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

You know what I mean? They just got so many weapons that I think that's going to help them prevail.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

And.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yes, they are a very scary team to deal with as of right now.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

You look at Jason Tatum and JB. JT and JB. JT was plus 7. Brown was plus 9. Hauser plus 23. Quader plus 28. Pritchard plus 20. Charman. So think about it. Your two big guns are in the plus, which is great, but they have some of the lowest plus. If, as Joe said, the others. Yeah, we seen Peyton Pritchard. Okay, so you know what? Let's just say, for the sake of argument, one of the big two having an off game.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Let's just say it's JT or jb. One of those guys. The other guy gets it going. You still got to worry about. You still got to worry about Pritchard.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Pritchard can light your ass up for 40.

[Joe Johnson]

Sam.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

How to. Can go, can go, can make seven threes.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah, they. They got a total team package when it comes to, you know, hitting you in different waves, bro.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

You know what I mean? Like, yeah, we can. We can run this trap on Tatum and jb, But I like Equator, too, Uncle Ocho.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

I like Waiter. Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

You know, he understands his role plays. Hard shot blocker, rim protector, you know, defender ain't gonna do much more than that. You know, he gonna take what you give him. He had a double double tonight. Actually, he been playing well the whole entire season from a decent standpoint. So they. They got rid of some key players and Al Horford and Drew Holiday. But at the same time, man, they. They plug and play. They got some.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

They upgraded, though. Hey, I mean, Al, look, I'm trying to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm trying to think of something to say, honestly, trying to defend my heat. I really can't. I'm. I want to go into and use the point that. Listen, the Celtics doing what they did to the Miami Heat is really not a measuring stick for how good they are. But the fact that the Celtics do goddamn everybody like this, like there's. There. There's no point that I can actually make outside the fact that we don't

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

have enough fire, the Hawks put foot last night, though. Oh, yeah, last night. You see my.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, you see. You see them hogs balling?

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

They just put foot back the magic, too, tonight.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, hey. What? Listen, a squirrel getting every.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Every.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Every. Boom.

[Mike Washington Jr.]

Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

A squirrel getting every moon.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Well, he got two of them in the past two days, so he good. Must be Christmas.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Gary Owen]

Hey, hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The Heat don't have enough firepower, man. I mean.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

No, they don't. We got.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We got to do a whole.

[Joe Johnson]

They.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

They. They.

[Joe Johnson]

They gonna be. They gonna be a play in team, and they play hard and compete. So they. They may still have a chance to get that a spot, but I don't see them.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

They ain't called. They ain't doing no damage. I mean, they. They don't. They don't have. They don't have enough. And, And. And. And I understand Pat Riley, I mean, he wants to keep his homegrown talent. He seems to be unwilling to part with. With Tyler Hero, but the only guy that I would be really unwilling to part with.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's it.

[Mike Washington Jr.]

That's it.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

I think Bam is the only one, Joe. Everybody else, you can have him.

[Joe Johnson]

I agree. I agree. I think they gonna make some changes. They gonna make some changes this summer. Uncle Ojo, if this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I told you what's gonna happen. Now, I said. I said it before the season started. I was saying it when. Before the trade deadline approach. But obviously some things didn't work out in the way we wanted it to. But I can guarantee in this all season joke, you hear me? And when the exact players I said that was coming, when they actually come, all I want to do, all I want you to say, boy, Ocho, boy, you know something down there, boy?

[Joe Johnson]

You said. You saying. You saying Ja or Giannis gonna come. You ain't saying both.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, there's a good chance we could land both because, I mean, Pat, listen, are we. Are we trying. Listen to me. Stay with me. Are we trying to change the culture? Are we trying to be the A seed or a playing team every goddamn season? Hey, listen, the AC is a play in all that is a participation trophy.

[Joe Johnson]

Now, listen, you ain't trying to change the culture. The culture is great. What you need is a little more talent. Okay. You need some more.

[Gary Owen]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What is culture without the talent? What is culture without the talent? You mediocre. You like the cowboy? Oh, my bad. My bad.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

I think the problem that they have is that when you look at it, and they had. They went to the. A few years ago, maybe 23, maybe a little before that they went to the NBA Finals. Maybe 22 they went to the finals and they lost to the Nuggets. And so the worst, sometimes the worst thing can happen to you is that you have success because you think you're good enough. Yeah, they ain't been good enough in a while. Andrew Wiggins had that, that out of body experience when they won that championship against the, against the, the Celtics. Yeah, but Andrew Wiggins has been just a guy. Yeah, he's been just a guy. He's the number one overall draft pick. He wouldn't have been that had Joel Embiid back, had held up in college. But he's a guy.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

I mean, you count on him. He's your second best player.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

I mean, so I'm just trying to figure out, okay, you got Bam. Bam is Bam. Bam is a can defend. You see? Bam can get. Bam is a double. Double machine. Tyler Hero is. Tyler Hero is a solid player, but are you. Do you really believe you could win with Tyler Hero as your first or second best player? You believe you can win a championship with him as your first or second best player, Joe?

[Joe Johnson]

Nah.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

You, you, you, you.

[Joe Johnson]

You have to have Wiggins insert himself and be aggressive, Uncle Ocho, like he, he has to.

[Gary Owen]

He.

[Joe Johnson]

Cause he's capable of averaging 20 a night. 20 or more a night. You know what I mean? He just.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

That man shot seven times, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

I know that's what I'm not supposed to do with that. He played 32 minutes, only shot seven times.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Thank you.

[Joe Johnson]

And I just feel like he, he got so much, so much game and potential that he's one guy who. I feel like, man, when it's time to turn it up, I feel like he can. I mean, he's won a title. He's played with some great talent before, so he knows what it's like. But for whatever reason, it just hasn't been there for him.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

It's hard for me to believe at the age of 30 it's gonna come to him now. He could be wrong. I could be. Well, he might not.

[Gary Owen]

He.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

He might not even be 30. He might be 28, 29.

[Joe Johnson]

No, I think he probably about 30, but he probably. He right there. He right there. What I'm saying is, I'm saying, okay, oo he can muster it up to where, you know, when the postseason start, whatever he's averaging, he can give you more than that. That's all I'm saying. I think he, he has a lot more in the tank.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Can. Can is the, is the ability to do something. Yeah, will he? What have you seen based on that. Based on that one run that he had in Golden State in which they won the title. What about all those other years when they was losing to the Lakers in the play in. How do you. How is he looking?

[Gary Owen]

You, you, you.

[Joe Johnson]

But what I'm saying is in order for the Lakers to make some. No, I mean, not the Lakers, the heat that makes some noise, they gotta have another guy. Bro, you can't put all this on Bam come out here and get, you know, 30 or no night, you know what I'm saying? He gonna do a little bit everything. He workhorse. I think with him scoring that 83, you know, everybody looking at him a little different.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

No, no, no, I don't. I don't. That's out of about.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He had.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

He had an out of body experience. It's almost like the situation where we hear about somebody having the out of body experiences where they. They have an enormous bottle strength or they do something out of this world. That's what Bam had.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

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innovation 11 consecutive years, Arizona State University isn't just ahead of the curve. It's creating new paths to success. Learn from notable clinical and research faculty online. That's a degree. Better explore programs at ASUonline. ASU. EDU oh, our very, very special guest is joining us. University of Arkansas running back Mike Washington tip the scales. At 6 foot 1, 23023 pounds in the combine, he ran a 4, 3, 3. He had a vertical jump of 39, broad jump of 10ft 8 inches and his stats in 2026, he only had 167 rushes, but over a thousand rush yards and eight Russian touchdowns down. Mike, how you doing, bro? Y' all can hear me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Mike.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah, we got you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What's good? What's good, bro? Where you at?

[Mike Washington Jr.]

I'm in Arkansas right now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. You, you still out there?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey. He down there running. Them heels, man. Them heels got you right down there ain't a man.

[Mike Washington Jr.]

Everything got me right out here, man.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, hey. That's what I'm talking about. Hey, Mike, we. Mike, we saw the clip of you after you ran that blistering time. You became very emotional at that moment. What was going through your mind and why did you become so emotional at that point in time?

[Mike Washington Jr.]

Really just everything. You know, I've been through a lot of adversity. I had bounced from school to school, been to three schools, was at Buffalo, New Mexico State, and then, you know, Arkansas. But really just everything, like all my hard work, you know, it paid off and, you know, that realization that, you know, all my hard work paid off just hit me at once.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What has the process been like so far for you? Obviously, I understand how, how difficult the process is, especially when talking to the team, talking to some of the owners, talking to the, the higher ups and the questions that they ask. What has the process been been for you, you know, throughout the combine experience?

[Mike Washington Jr.]

Honestly, it's been a blessing being able to talk to these different teams, you know, getting a Chance to talk to, you know, the. The head coaches, running back coaches, officer coordinators. It's really just been a blessing. I've been, you know, just trying to soak everything up.

[Joe Johnson]

Mike, what's happening, bro?

[Mike Washington Jr.]

What's going on?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, what's your. What was your training like preparing for the combine? You know, we know you ran a 4, 3. Obviously, you did your thing in the combine. This boost you up on a lot of. On a lot of people, drafts, boards. What was your training like? What did you incorporate that helped you out? You know, in this combo, really just.

[Mike Washington Jr.]

It was really dieting. You know, I was out there in Fort Myers training at X3, and, you know, I got a chance to. At first, when I came in, my body was beat up, you know, because of the season.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Mike Washington Jr.]

So I had to get a lot of treatment. Like, I mean, it was. It was every day where I was just getting treatment, working on my body. But once I took care of, you know, the nicks and bruises of the season, we was really able to, you know, fix, you know, everything regarding my start, regarding my first three steps, like, all of that. And that was, like, the biggest thing that I had to emphasize. My first three steps. We was able to get that corrected.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, what, for myself, obviously, me being a foodie and being a nutritionist. I'm curious, when you say your diet, you had to get your diet right to prepare yourself for the combine.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What did you eat? Did what? I mean, what. What kind of diet we talking about?

[Mike Washington Jr.]

Yeah, I just had. So. So when I. When I'm talking about my diet, I'm talking about, like, you know, the macros and all of that. So protein, I had a hit a certain. I had to hit a goal every day in terms of how much protein I had, how many. How many carbs, how many fats. So, I mean, it was a lot

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

of lean, between 180 and 220 protein grabs of protein. Because theoretically, you could eat a gram of protein per body now. So you. 220. So you can get somewhere between 190 and 220. Maybe you want to go a little, add a little muscle, you go to 230. 230.

[Mike Washington Jr.]

Yeah, it was more. So it was more protein than really any of them.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Right, right.

[Mike Washington Jr.]

Which was hard for me because I'm a big carb guy. Like, I like my rights, you know, my noodles. That was like, the hardest thing for me.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

But, yeah, eating quality. Eating quality protein is hard. If you eating chicken, you eat fish, you eat turkey, you eat lean cuts of Meat. Yeah, yeah, that's a lot. You get a couple of burgers, a couple of hot dogs, some fried food, you blow right through that man. Man, you'll blow right through that bike.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, you gotta stay, you guys, you gotta stay away from that fast.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Joe, slow down.

[Joe Johnson]

Ocho the man finna be a pro. We need it, man. Let's. Let's teach him how he should take care of his body, what he should be eating, what he should stay away from if he want to keep that 4:3 speed when he get in the league. Yeah, don't, don't, don't. Don't get satisfied. Don't get comfortable, bro. You gotta keep your foot on the gas, you feel me? Don't be listening to Ocho. Ocho out here eating McDonald's and all that. Oo, his body type might not.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, we the same size, Joe. We the same size. I'm 6, 3, 2, 25.

[Gary Owen]

Not even close.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, Mike, check this out. You. You mentioned your journey and adversity that you face. University of Buffalo, New Mexico, then Arkansas. You're pro, you're from upstate New York, right?

[Mike Washington Jr.]

New York.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

So you go to, you go to Buffalo, that doesn't suit you. You go to New Mexico, that doesn't suit you. What was it about Arkansas? What was that? That say, you know what? I think this is the place for me. I think this is where I can hone my craft and I can become what I believe I can become.

[Mike Washington Jr.]

Really. So starting off at Buffalo, I had a lot of people don't know this, but I was at Buffalo for three years and I had four running back coaches in three years. So that was like the main reason why I left. And then going into New Mexico State, I had a decent season and ended up hitting a portal, mainly because I just knew that I had to play against, you know, better competition to, you know, get better looks. So that's why I hit the portal. But before Arkansas, I had committed to Utah and when I, when I committed, I didn't sign. I was waiting on the papers and I mean, a week went by and I didn't sign at all. I don't know if they were stalling or what, but, you know, Arkansas came into the picture and, you know, they were able to put together a great game plan for me to graduate and then also presented me with the opportunity to, you know, play. So that was like the biggest thing with Arkansas.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

That's what's been playing. You mentioned playing against top level competition. You know, the top competition, the SEC and the big ten and so. And you didn't have a whole lot, you didn't have a whole lot of carries, but you average about six yards of carry. So what, what is it about and and looks at from the projection? Seattle, the Broncos and the Bengals are are three are. Are word you kind of looked at being projected at because I think all three of those teams obviously K9, he left Seattle and went to. Went to Kansas City. The Broncos, they could need somebody in the backfield with K.J. harvey and obviously the Bengals, although Brown played extremely well, they probably want somebody with a little bigger body and, and can and, and compound it up in there. And maybe you guys split carry the cuimi. Seemingly that's where everybody's going to, to the two back system. But what was it, what was it about the SEC that really, really like okay, I see all these guys that come out every year that go there. Let me see what they're really talking about.

[Mike Washington Jr.]

Really. I feel like I had a season I had because you know, just the motivation and you know, determination when it came to really just playing at SEC coming in, a lot of people were saying that I'm not SEC caliber. A lot of people were saying that I'm going to be third team and I'm a ride the bench. I'm be handing out water. So I, I really thought about all of that during the season. That was, that was like really my driving motivation.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, when you think, when you talk about playing the running back position, obviously we all have our favorite players that if you think about your favorite players in NFL right now, who do you mold or who would you say your playing style is like that's in today's game?

[Mike Washington Jr.]

I would definitely say Josh Jacobs. And I've been watching him since he was in Alabama and he went to, you know, the Raiders and Green Bay. I've been watching him like all throughout his career and I'll definitely say him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I like it. I like it.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey. Hey, Mike. What you doing right now, bro? Preparing for the draft. What it's like, I know you, you know, you prepared for the combine. Had a hell of a combine. What are you doing now? Obviously on the brink of getting drafted. What's your workout regimen like? What's your thought process on even getting a chance to play in the NFL knowing that I'm sure it was a probably lifelong dream of yours. What is it like? What is it like right now?

[Mike Washington Jr.]

Yeah. So right now I'm training Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday and then next week we, we go into Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Tuesday, Thursday, Conditioning. So that's what my training is like. And I'm also getting treatment every day. I'm taking advantage of all of that because it's all free in Arkansas

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

right now.

[Mike Washington Jr.]

I feel like my mindset has started to shift it in terms of, you know, goals, you know, because this has always been, you know, know, a goal of mine, you know, making it to the NFL. And now, you know, my mindset is starting to change into, you know, you know, trying to hit that legendary status.

[Joe Johnson]

Right.

[Mike Washington Jr.]

Really, really. Just, you know, whatever it takes, you know, like, you know, whoever's becoming a pro Bowler, you know, and eventually, you know, my end goal is being in the hall of Fame. So that's where my mind started. My mindset starting to ship, too.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Well, Mike, you know, looking at the scouting report, the one thing that. That the first thing up there. Ball security.

[Gary Owen]

Yes, sir.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

That you need to do a better job of securing the football. 10 fumbles over three seasons. What have you been doing to try to fix that small flaw that's in your game?

[Mike Washington Jr.]

Really, just emphasizing it. Like, I do position work every other day while I'm out here, and I'm just really just emphasizing it. Like, I'm out cuts. Like, I do a drill, position drill, then I'll run like a gasser. And I come back while I'm tired because that's when I had my fumbles. I come back while I'm tired, and I get back in the drill, and I'm just emphasizing, you know, carry. Holding the ball tight. It's really just an emphasis thing.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You ever been to Cincinnati?

[Mike Washington Jr.]

I've been through Cincinnati. Through. Yeah.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

There's a good chance you might be there, man. You know, you chase Brown in the backfield. I'm probably going to be in the war room, you know, on. On draft day. So I'm just, you know, put my word in.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

We're gonna send you to war. Not no war room. To war.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, I'm trying. I'm trying to improve my team. That's all. That's all.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

You started. You started a YouTube channel?

[Mike Washington Jr.]

Yes, sir.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

So. So tell us a little bit about that.

[Mike Washington Jr.]

Yeah, really? Just. Really Just documenting my life, documenting everything. I want to be able to look back when I'm older and be able to show my kids everything. So.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah. Okay. I like that.

[Joe Johnson]

That's what's up, bro. That's what's up.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

So how long. How long. How long have you had the YouTube channel? And did you start it, like. Okay, did you start it during the season? Did you Start it. Once you started preparing for the combine. When did you start this? To say, you know what? I want to start this look back so when I'm here, I can have my kids, my grandkids, we can all sit down and take. Hey, look what you. Look what your dad. Look what your grandpa.

[Mike Washington Jr.]

Yeah, I started during combine training, so like a few months ago.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Okay. Okay. Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

So you didn't document. Did you document anything during your. Your final season in Arkansas? Did you. Did you. Any latest. You know?

[Mike Washington Jr.]

Nah. So that's why.

[Gary Owen]

That's.

[Mike Washington Jr.]

That's my only regret. I should have started it during the season, but end up starting after. After the season. I got a couple. I got one video out right now, and then I have another one that. That should be dropping within, you know, the next couple hours actually.

[Joe Johnson]

All right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I gotta check that out.

[Mike Washington Jr.]

Yeah.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Well, that's awesome, man. Congratulations. I mean, you. The. For the process in which you've gone through, you know, going to three schools. It doesn't matter where you started, where you finished. Now I just want us to share this information with you. I know your lifelong dream was to play in the NFL, but your journey doesn't start it now. The journey starts. So getting there is easy. Staying there is the hard part, man. Continue to work, continue to put God first. Continue to do all the things that you did to get you there. But you're going to have to do them at an even higher level now because there are a lot of. There are a lot of guys that were all Americans and all conference and all this at that level. And so in order for you to stand out above them and to make sure you stay at that level, you know what it takes because you got this far. Continue success. So here at Nightcap. Ojo ISO. ISO is a University of Arkansas alum.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

You know he gonna be. He gonna be watching with an eagle eye.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, Mike. Hey, Mike. Hey. Hey. Stayton vision, bro. Yeah. I mean, everything else on the side, them just distractions, homie. Stay locked in. And congratulations, bro, and I wish you the best on the draft and woo, pigs.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, congratulations, man. Good luck on everything. When you do get drafted, I'm sure you have a team of people, you know, that direct you and what. And what you need to do and what you don't, what you need and need not do. But if you need a nutritionist, you know, holl at your boy, I can get you a nice.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Don't do that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I got a nice little plan for you, man. Gets. Get you right.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Yo, how the family doing the family good. Everybody good. Mom, dad, brother, sister, everybody.

[Mike Washington Jr.]

Yeah, everybody doing good. They actually watching it right now. So shout out.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey mama. Hey mama. Make sure you subscribe. Make sure you hit that subscribe button and hit the like button while you're at it.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

I appreciate it, man. All the best, man. God bless. Stay healthy and look forward to hearing your night, hearing your name called on draft night.

[Joe Johnson]

Good luck, Mike. Yes, sir.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Appreciate you, bro. Mike Washington Jr, University of Arkansas running back. He's projected to go fairly high. I mean, great size six one, 223 running 43. You look at his vert, you look at his standing brawl jump lets you know he's explosive. It lets also let you know he did what he did in one of the preeminent conferences in football.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes, sir.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

So now that. Hold on, he battle tested.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, he can run like that, he

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

can jump like that. Like I said, the only knock that I can that I find is that he got to do a better job of taking football. Cuz that that if the quickest way to get your ass off the field is to put that oo. Remember earlier this year, Derrick Henry, as great as he was, what did the

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ravens do on this atlant? Hey, remember what I said.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Come on here with me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What? What did I tell you with the problem? What did he take off his hands? What? He took off, off, off, off his arms because you can't, you can't, you can't feel the goddamn ball, Joe. But listen, but for him, another thing

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

also, and we know, you know, cause you know what skin to skin feel like. So we know you like skin. Oh yeah, we know, we know you

[Shannon Sharpe]

Another, another thing for him too. Joe. Joe and unc is coming in, being a running back, you know, everybody fast, huh? You know what I'm talking about. Everybody can run, but being able to do more at your position will separate you from everybody else. Being able to do more, not having to come out on third downs, knowing how to pass block, being able to catch out the backfield, you know, all that stuff matters and it makes you a lot more valuable outside of just the stats and what you did at the combine. So I hope, I'm hoping, you know, he got the right people around him, you know, so he can be a much better running back than what he was at. Goddamn Arkansas is adding other tools to his toolbox that makes you more value

[Joe Johnson]

and staying locked into the point to where you focus. You know how like training for the combine. Because I'm sure both of y' all have done it. You probably had to train your butt out for the combine then. But like, once you get drafted, you can't exhale, bro. Hell no, you can't exhale. You gotta continue. You gotta keep that same mindset as though you still trying to get somewhere even though you're already there. And like Oak say, as easy as it is to get there, man, it's much harder to stay. It's the same thing for the, in the, in the NBA, bro, because guys get so comfortable after they get drafted, after they know the ropes, after they know how much they need to put in. You know, you can't, you can never get comfortable, bro. You always got to stay locked in and stay hungry.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

And I think, look, you got to be really special, really, really special running back to basically be a two down back. I mean, to be like an Adrian Peterson, because Adrian Peterson came out a lot on third down. Henry comes out on third down. You got to be special. But it's not a whole lot of Ladanian Thomasons. There are not a whole lot of. It's not a whole lot of Marshall fox and Christian McCaffrey and get there. Not a whole lot of guys like that. And somebody said, man, Eric Dickinson fumbled one time, 18 times in one season. Yeah, he rushed for 2100 yards one time on the season, two, he rushed for 20 touchdowns in the season.

[Gary Owen]

Ed was different.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

I don't know if y. I remember Ed came in when he had the Jerry curl.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

And with the. And he was the state champion 100 and 200 in the state of Texas. Now, you know one thing. Texas, Florida, Georgia, when it comes to speed, if you win the state, if you win the state track meet in one of those, in California, in one of those three states. Oh, you can move.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, you can move. You get.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

You could you. No, no, you can move.

[Gary Owen]

Move. You know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know what's so funny about ed2unc is when you look at, when you look at his highlights, he runs so straight up. He runs up and down, tall as hell. Or that boy, he be moving. Boy.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah, Eric the Ram. But it's great to see the, the journey that these kids and to overcome things, you know, he's from upstate New York, obviously. He goes to the University of Buffalo. That doesn't work out for him. He goes on. He goes. He didn't mention that he had four coaches, running back coaches while he was there. And then he goes to New Mexico State. And for whatever reason, like, you know what, I had a good season, but I Want people because look at the level of competition and I'm kind of doing this and they're going to hold that against me. So let me go against top level competition, do what I did and maybe I'll get a better look. And he's probably played himself into a top three, you know, probably not going to get out of the second or third. He could be a first round pick, but indications like he's probably going to go that second day, probably second or third round. Nice size, ability to run the football. Got that kind of speed. 4, 3, 3. At that size, that's.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, that was the fastest in the combine. When they had a running backs, it might have been.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

I think somebody might have had a 4, 3, might have had a 4, 3 flat. But to. For a running back. But these guys not. See, here's the thing. The problem that I have with this, Joe, guys are going and specifically training. It'd be like you, Joe, going and says, okay, Joe, we want you to shoot. Now we're going to do a test, Joe, but you only going to shoot threes from the right top of the key.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

And that's all you're going to shoot and that's all you did. Yeah, you're going to get very proficient at that.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

And see the thing is, is that can you play football? I love that you can run fast. I love that you can jump high. I love all of that. But at the end of the day, I ain't got no stopwatch on you. I ain't got no measuring tape on you. Can you play?

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's all that matter.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

That's what I need to know. Can. Can that, can that 4, 3 and that 11 foot and that 40. It. Does it translate to get your ass on the field. I put a helmet on you, I put shoulder pads and I put feet on your damn feet. Can you translate that right? Because Joe, I'm sure you've seen guys that can jump out the gym and they can shoot it, but they get in the basketball game and I'm like, son,

[Joe Johnson]

right, right. I already know what you're talking about. Hey, some. Some can, some can't. I think what, what happens is when you're in a combine or when you're training for the NBA, it's like, can you make those reads in the game? You know what I mean? Those game situations, because you ain't gonna. In basketball, you ain't gonna get the top speed. And football you might.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

But.

[Joe Johnson]

But before you get to top speed, you're gonna have to wiggle A little bit.

[Gary Owen]

Oh, yeah.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

You understand. So I understand what you're talking about. Huh?

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

We, Gary, very, very special guest. We got a very, very special guest joining us. I don't know why he. We came in the chat a little early, but he was looking. Why so serious.

[Gary Owen]

There he is.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Very funny. Mr. Gary Owen. Gary.

[Gary Owen]

How you doing?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Gary? What's up, baby?

[Joe Johnson]

What up, bro?

[Gary Owen]

What's up, man?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, Gary. I didn't. I haven't had an opportunity to talk to you since we did the. The Club Shisha interview, and hopefully you enjoyed the way it came out. We got a lot of positive feedback. Hopefully people started clap, man. I ain't no Gary was that funny. But I've done 200 of these, and so hopefully you enjoyed it as much as I enjoyed it. Of 200 pods I've done, I've only had one person to say they didn't have a very enjoyable experience. So I want to say hopefully you had a very enjoyable.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah, yeah, that was dope. Yeah, I got a lot of phone calls off that one.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

So you got married. I mean, I don't even. You said you was dating. I didn't want to bring. I mean, I knew some things that were going on, but I didn't want to put you on the spot because I didn't want to be messy because people say I'm messy. So I want to put your business out there in the street. But you've gotten remarried. You got twins. What has it been like becoming a new father for the first time in what, damn near two decades?

[Gary Owen]

G. I got a nanny this time. It's easy. It's light. Work with the nanny. Hey, hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Matter of fact, Gary, you know, I'm glad, un. I'm glad unleaded with that question. As far as doing something, obviously having older kids like myself and. And starting back over with twins. And I just told we. Not not too long ago, un. And I and Joe as well, we talked about actually having kids again, you know, and.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

And no, no, no. Uncle getting. You did okay mention. Ish.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, Joe, you. Joe, you said you. Y' all to agree.

[Joe Johnson]

We talked about. We talked about a triple marriage. We talk about, you know, we ain't talking about us having kids.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, well, Gary, I'm thinking about having twins. I. I want to know what do you think about me having twins? You think it's a good move at this point in life, or should I just. Just. Just stick with what I have right now?

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Keep it real, G. You close the

[Gary Owen]

double digits, might as well get that even 10

[Shannon Sharpe]

what I'm talking about? That's. And so wait, one.

[Gary Owen]

One thing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Obviously, you know how I am. I'm very financially savvy. So what does it look like having a nanny without having to tell me how much it really costs? You know, I mean, like, what do you think?

[Joe Johnson]

I had one before G. I already know.

[Gary Owen]

It's not, it's not as bad as people think it really. Okay, it's not that bad. Okay, so ours isn't like living. She's. She gets here at 7:00am Right? He leaves around 5. So is she there 10 hours? Yeah, yeah, she's there for 10 hours.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, that's convenient. That sounds convenient.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Does she. Does she do anything other than nanny? Does she cook? Does she clean? Or is that. She's just a nanny. She just take care of the kids

[Gary Owen]

when you got twins. I mean, she ain't really got time to do much else because boys everywhere. So she keeps everything in order. When she's not here, we see how important she is. I'll tell you that. And she calls in sick. Oh, oh,

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

hey, don't, don't worry about it. We got some medicine. We got some call syrup.

[Gary Owen]

That's like the Bengals without Joe Burrow.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Gary, let me ask you this, Gary, what was it about the. You getting married? What goes through your mind? Say, hey, you know what I think would be a good idea, babe? We get Ocho to talk to him.

[Gary Owen]

Gary, let me tell you how this all panned out. It was like a 48 hour notice. So when we first decided, yo, we're going to get married, I went to another wedding and I saw Cedric the Entertainer preside over it. I said, that's a good idea because it wasn't stuffy. It wasn't like, you know, God, almost like threatening you something like other ways I feel like it's a threat, you know, death do us part. Sickest in health, Richard Gore. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa. When Cedric, I go, oh, that was funny. So when ours came back, you know, I wanted the groomsmen to be my think like a man castmates. And so I was like, okay, that'll be different. We all hadn't been in the same room since 2014, so everybody signed on. And then when it came to the. The officiant, 50 Cent volunteered. He was like, I want to do it. So I was like, great. So the whole time I was like, 50's doing it. We kept it low key. Tuesday, I get a phone call. I said, oh, this ain't good.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

This is Good.

[Gary Owen]

And they said 50 was filming something in New Jersey. The weather was bad. He didn't want to wait till the last minute and cancel. So he was like, let's scramble. And I'm not gonna lie, Ocho was the second person I reached out to. I reached out to four people. Ocho got back the quickest. So I was like, oh, he got it. Because he called me back immediately. Oh, I called Matt Rife and then Ocho and then Dion, Cole and Tommy from Power, Joseph Zakora. In that order was the four people are called Matt, Ocho, Dion and Joseph.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And hey, you know, hey, you notice the black guy got back to you fast, huh? He was the fastest one, huh?

[Gary Owen]

You got back fast.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah. I don't know how many people that watch the episode, but you got a very fascinating story. You're from Cincinnati, you go to the military and you like, you know what? I think I could do comedy. And you started going to these open mics as a. As in the military. How did, how did. How did you, like, I want to fight for the country, which is a very noble cause. Like, you know what, I want to get on stage and tell jokes.

[Gary Owen]

It was, listen, it wasn't about, like, to fight for the country. It was, you grow up in a trailer park right outside of Cincinnati. I knew I wanted to be a stand up. Was like, how do I do it, though? I didn't know how. I thought you started in la, but like, yeah, who's got the most bases in California? The Navy does. But like, if I join the Navy, they're gonna eventually get me to California. And So I spent two years in the honor guard in D.C. and then the first chance I got to get to San Diego, I went. And that's when I started doing stand up. Like, the whole plan was to get to California and start doing. Because I thought the whole state was la, because I didn't know. I've never been.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

No.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

So were you. Were you funny? So did you prank people? Were you crack cracking jokes? Did the teacher say, Mr. Owen, would you please sit down? Everything is not meant to be a joke. Were you. Did you always have this sense of humor or was it like.

[Gary Owen]

Nah, I was class clown, most obnoxious, everything in high school. Hey, yo, me and chad back in 2006. So I moved back to Cincinnati in 2004, somewhere around there, and. And I met Chad almost immediately. Like, almost the first day I got back for some reason ran into each other. And then I had this Tuesday night in Cincinnati and it was Killing, like, because I knew the. I knew the ball players. Their off day was Tuesday. I didn't have a lot going on. I go, all right, if I can do something on Tuesday night, once the Bengals start coming, then the hoes start coming. We had all the bad chicks in Cincinnati. We had all the Bengals. I was like. And then Chad, I called him in 2006. I called him. I said, yo, he was coming every week. So I was like, let's do Chad Johnson's 2 Funny Tuesday, hosted by Gary Owen. So we did that. That thing was sold out so far in advance. Like, that 2006 year when me and Chad did it, it was packed to the brim. People still talk about that to this day. Back in Cincy that year.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

What do you say? Because people's like, and. And Cat paid you the ultimate compliment. He said, gary Owens, been in this thing 30 years. And for whatever reason, we know the reason he hadn't. Because he hadn't sold him soul to the devil. But a lot of people say, you know what? Gary's really. But it's crossover. It's like, when you go to your floor, it's like. It's like a Mardi Gras. It's like. It's like a HBCU convention. Because the black men and women, they love you. How did you. How were you able to garner that crowd? You being a white comedian, you don't choose your audience.

[Gary Owen]

They choose you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I like. I like that.

[Gary Owen]

You know? And my first chance to get on TV was bet. Yeah.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Okay.

[Gary Owen]

I remember I would have went on Telemundo if I spoke Spanish. You just trying to get on anything.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Gary Owen]

My first TV appearance was the Dayton Game.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Really?

[Gary Owen]

And it was funny because I was one of the three guys, and we don't know who the girl is. But when we were backstage, the. You know, they do two. Two different segments every episode. So it'd be as a guy picks three girls, and then a girl picks three guys.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Gary Owen]

They. Sweet. Well, obviously, it was a white girl picking three white dudes. But when we were in the green room, I saw some black guys. I was like, wait a minute. Are you guys here filming today? They're like, yeah, I went through, like, can we switch? No, you're assigned to this episode. I said, I think I'll be on

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

the other episode, though.

[Gary Owen]

But my first. That was my first TV appearance was a Dating Game.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

How did. How do you think Chad did for the wedding? Back to the wedding. I mean, how. How big. How many people did you invite?

[Gary Owen]

We had 170.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Okay. Close family, friends, and loved ones.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah, we had. We had a nice mix of like, quote unquote Hollywood. My entertainment friends and then my wife's friends, you know, they're all from Houston. So it was a nice, nice mix of ratchet with Hollywood.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Gary Owen]

I'll tell you what. At one point, the liquor start going. It got about 11:30, which is late for the wedding, right? Also, there was a twerk off on the dance floor, and I'm in the middle so much ass was hitting my legs, I almost tore my acl. It was getting flipped around, like, so much. I was like, one actually go this way. The other one, I was like, yeah.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Hello, Gary, you got a twerk off at a wedding?

[Gary Owen]

Oh, we got it in. This wasn't a normal wedding, bro. I got roasted. Russell Peters and Lunel went up and roasted me at the reception. It was. It was just. It was just fun, man. And oo what I liked about it, I told him, man, don't stress if you. I want you to mess up. So he messed up a couple times because he said it was dark and he had sunglasses on. He said, I can't read this. It's too dark. Take off your sunglasses. But I wanted to be in. It was imperfectly perfect. I mean, he.

[Joe Johnson]

He.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

He made it his.

[Gary Owen]

So I didn't want, like. I didn't want the preacher to be, like. It was all perfect and rehearsed.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

We.

[Gary Owen]

We didn't want it that.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

So was Ocho late?

[Gary Owen]

No, no, he got there on time.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

What?

[Mike Washington Jr.]

Hold on.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Wait a minute. You mean to tell me this man got this?

[Gary Owen]

I said, is he. Here they go. He's already dressed. Let me. Let me. Here's what I'm impressed with. The theme was black tux with a black undershirt. We wanted the guys to be in all black. So many guys said they couldn't find a black shirt. How did Chad confirms on Thursday, the wedding Saturday, he had a black tux, black shirt. I go, if he can do it, you guys should have been able to do it. The other guy, we just can't find a black shirt. He found it.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, no, he came. He came shirtless. You thought it was a shirt.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got to understand, I. I take. I take being a efficient. I take it very, very seriously. That was my first one. Hey, Gary. Now my services are open to the public. Right now I'm starting low. I'm only charging 500 bucks, so. 500 bucks to officiate. And with that package, I can also Perform with my little band. I got a mini band down here in Miami.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Gary Owen]

I just want to lie.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Hello, Gary. You say you, you say, you say the old lady, she's from Houston.

[Gary Owen]

Thick.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

You know what? I've been looking to get down there and look around at some property. Oh, can you show me, can you show me around in Houston?

[Gary Owen]

Look, yo, she got me. I met her at the gym, you know. You know, a little something about that Shannon.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

But God damn you, I'm saying, hey,

[Joe Johnson]

hey, how you approach it? Or if you met at the gym, you just walked up to it while

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

she was working, or you.

[Joe Johnson]

You waited, you waited.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We.

[Gary Owen]

I told the story at the wedding. I go, I saw her and she was stretching and I was like, dang, she's kind of fine. So my roadmate, I said, yo, go invite her to a show. So he came back. He goes, man, I got good news and bad news. I said, what's the good news? He goes, she wants to come to the show. I said, what's the bad news? He goes, she don't know who the you are. I said, oh, I gotta be extra funny tonight. You know, we was. We weren't in a place to date then. I was still.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Right.

[Gary Owen]

I was separated. I was married. And yeah, she was, you know, she wasn't ready to settle down, so to speak. She. She had her guard up with me. And finally we just always stayed in touch and then, you know, it just worked out.

[Joe Johnson]

But hey, hey, hold on. I got one more question. Has she ever dated a white guy before?

[Gary Owen]

You?

[Joe Johnson]

Never.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Were you the first?

[Gary Owen]

Always and the last.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

You like that? You like that? Because we talked about this. You like being the first?

[Gary Owen]

You'll think, hey, I don't get those black girls. I never have got the black girls that dated white dudes. I get the ones that like, wow, first time, always, my whole life.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah, hey, but we, but we, we talked about this and you said, I think you said on the show that you had only been with one white woman. You. Your entire life. Every other woman that you've been with has mainly been basically a black.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah. Woman of color.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Okay, Woman of color. Gary. What? You. I mean, being from. Hold on, you from Midwest. You say you from a trailer park outside of Cincinnati. So you're not even really in Cincinnati. You're outside of Cincinnati. Maybe near the Kentucky border. The Kentucky border?

[Shannon Sharpe]

How.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

How does a, a red headed white kid from a trailer park say, you know what? You got Jet magazines pinned to your wall in the trailer?

[Gary Owen]

Dude, let me tell you something. Playing football and sports whenever we played the, the inner city schools.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Gary Owen]

Everybody else be like, oh, no. I'd be like, oh, yes. Because I knew. I was like, I'm about to ball today.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, you better earn you some stripes today, huh?

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, man, when you, when you coming to Vegas?

[Gary Owen]

You got to show Vegas, July 17th and 18th at the Venetian.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

I'm trying to get to that. If I'm in town, I'm coming. What about Atlanta?

[Joe Johnson]

When you come? I know you, you probably be in Atlanta.

[Gary Owen]

Atlanta's October something. The first week of October, that's going to be at the Cobb Energy Center. Yo, I ain't lying, Shannon. Like, I did your show, what, almost two years ago? About years ago, about nine months ago, somehow I got in the algorithms and everything just took off. Like the ticket sales they gave me, they didn't give. I want to say I earned. I got 100 city tour and we're doing all theaters and, and we're selling out everywhere. It's just, it, it just took off. It just took off. I think it was just me peppering all the time, doing clips, made decision.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Well, you got, you got a, you got, you got a lot of questions because everybody started asking about the question about the situation with the eggs and the situation with your kids. And so the thing is, is that you didn't shy away from it, Gary. You talked about it. And once you get into that algorithm. Yeah. Hey, every, everybody's people that don't know, didn't. Probably didn't know who you were. Now they get to see you come up on their feed.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

And you get rewarded for being in that algorithm. And, but also when people mention your name in a negative response, you also

[Gary Owen]

in the algorithm thing is bad press, I'll tell you that.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah, especially, especially your business because, like. Oh, let me see what, Let me see if he really funny. Let me see what's really going on with Gary. Owen. If every, if everybody says. Because you hit it out even on comic, you know, Def Comedy Jam and all the shows early on, there wasn't a whole lot you. Honest, John, I think those might have been the only two white guys that I actually saw on those shows.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah. There was one guy named Dante.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

I think Gabe, I think, I think Fluffy might have been on there.

[Gary Owen]

Fluffy did it once. I think Joe Coy did it once. They, for, for about the first seven, eight years of coming view, it was only like three comics an episode and there was like 15 episodes, like literally like 40 comics they were choosing from.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Right.

[Gary Owen]

Then they stopped making A contest the year I hosted, and they opened it up. That's when they opened it up to like, 4, 500 comics. And then you got a lot more diverse. But in the beginning, it was a contest. People forget that comedy was a contest. And they did that because Def Jam was just like comedians. When BT wanted to do comedy, they said, well, we want. We can't do Def Jam. We got to switch it up a little bit. So we'll make ours a contest. So then when Def Jam went away and I became the host of Comic View, then they went back to just being a comedy show again. It wasn't a contest anymore. More.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

And what you. If I'm not mistaken, you're the first and only white comic to host because some More Hosted. Said hosted. DL hosted.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah, I'm the first.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Who else? I'm trying to think.

[Gary Owen]

I think I'm the first and only white on air personality they've ever had on any show. Because then I had the reality show, too, on bet

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Boy. BET Love.

[Joe Johnson]

He did.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah, he did. I think they're gonna. I think. I think since they've been taken over, I don't know how much original content we gonna get. Gary. So it might be all reruns. So you might. You might be. Still have a couple of episodes still airing. I don't think they're gonna do much.

[Gary Owen]

They rerun everything on bt. I think I saw Homeboys in Outer Space.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, hey, hey, Gary. I'm thinking about doing a little comedy myself.

[Gary Owen]

Did he just freeze?

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

I think he froze.

[Joe Johnson]

He did.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

He did. Hey, that's normally what happened. I asked God every time he tell a lot of freezing. You see what happened, right, Joe? We. Our prayers went answered. Hey, Gary, I got a question.

[Joe Johnson]

I seen the viral clip. When Charlamagne asked you, had you been faithful your entire. Imagine you started choking, right? Hold on, hold on. But I also heard you say that they came up in court as you was going through your divorce.

[Gary Owen]

Well, it came up in mediation. We never actually went to court when we got the divorce. We ended up settling. But she brought it up in mediation. She goes, yeah, I saw the clip. And I go, what

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

did they. Did they play the clip? Because a lot of times you go to mediation, if you say something, they'll play it.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah, no, they didn't play it. You know, we were. Once we got to that point, we were pretty cordial. So you'll play it if the guy is in denial or she has something to gain? I. I felt like I was very generous in mediation. I think That's a sign of a good divorce. I feel like I paid too much. And she'll tell you she didn't get enough, like.

[Joe Johnson]

Right.

[Gary Owen]

That lets you know that's a good divorce.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

But here's the thing. You say I'm a comedian. I was just making light of a situation. Of course, I was faithful in my marriage.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah, right. No, that's why.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

That's why when we.

[Gary Owen]

When I got married, when I proposed and everything and everybody. You gonna have a bachelor party? I said I had a bachelor party. My first marriage.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

I'm good.

[Gary Owen]

I'm good. I don't need another one. Hey, good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, you can hear me?

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah, we got you, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know what's wrong with this Wi Fi. Keep going in and out.

[Gary Owen]

Oh, no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, no. Oh, no.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

That's God. Answer Joe with our prayers.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, no, g. Go ahead.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

What you want to ask Gary?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, I don't start up. I just started doing, like, stand up myself. I've been trying to. Trying to tell jokes on here, you know, towards the end of every show, you know, trying to get Netflix to give me a series, give me a comedy special.

[Gary Owen]

Well, I'm the last one you need to ask about Netflix, because they say to me every year, okay, okay, I wanna.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I want to try one of my jokes, and I want to see if you can get it.

[Gary Owen]

Oh, no. Okay, you ready? Yep.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What do you call a cow's knee?

[Gary Owen]

What?

[Shannon Sharpe]

A burger joint.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

You see, gary?

[Gary Owen]

You see?

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

We gotta go.

[Gary Owen]

He laughed before he got the punchline.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

A burger joints.

[Gary Owen]

Give the joke a chance to breathe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, I. I could. I could.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

I could.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, hey, Gary. One day, I promise you, I'm gonna make it big. I'm gonna make it big on stage. Somebody stage.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

You made it big.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You didn't once. I mean, my second part of life. My second part.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah, but Ocho, Gary, correct me if I'm wrong, it's just not good enough to be funny. You got to talk about something. You gotta. I mean, the job of a comedian is take real events, be it somewhere else about themselves, and make them funny. And so to be funny, it's one thing. Oh, man, that joke, funny. But to get up there and stand in front of 200, 300, 500, a thousand, 2,000 people, and to just keep it going and going and going.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, can I tell you something?

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I've done that before. I've done that before when Gary hosted. Matter of fact, Gary, you might not. You might. You might not remember this? The improv about Marvin Dixon and Benji Brown used to host down in Coconut.

[Gary Owen]

Tuesday night.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Tuesday nights. Yeah. Tuesday night in off season.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Whenever the first comic got booed. If you see Marvin Dixon and Benji Brown, ask him who finished the set when the first comic got booed every time.

[Gary Owen]

No, you. I remember when you went up one night in Cincinnati, Okay? He had a funny joke, Shannon, because

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

he goes, oh, he. He get. He'll get. He'll get. He'll. Out of ten. He'll give you three.

[Gary Owen]

I remember the one he said.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Which one? What was it?

[Gary Owen]

Don't y' all hate it when your Lamborghini breaks down and you can't. Oh, you guys would know nothing about that. When you're in your helicopter and the hilo pads booked up. You can't. Ah, you can't. You don't know about that. He's kind of digging on the audience.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Oh, Joe. Oh, so not yet. Y' all see a difference?

[Shannon Sharpe]

He just playing. He just.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

No, he ain't just playing. No. That real.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, that's funny.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

I didn't find.

[Gary Owen]

I didn't find spirit to the wedding.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Oh, you. Oh, you fool. Where you fly, American or United?

[Gary Owen]

He was in 1A.

[Joe Johnson]

In the Buckhead.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah. Okay, I can't do. I can't do. Bulkhead. They have to have a wheelchair.

[Gary Owen]

It was short notice. That was the only first class seat direct that I can get them on, so I was like. I was just happy they had one first class seat available. All right, I got it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Listen, I'm. I'm not picky.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Long.

[Shannon Sharpe]

As long as you put me in the exit row, I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm not. I'm very. I'm very low maintenance.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Where's the honeymoon? Where's the honeymoon? Gary?

[Gary Owen]

We ain't really had one because I'm on tour, so I took a week off of the tour.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Okay, okay, we'll.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We'll.

[Gary Owen]

We'll figure. Figure out this summer. I mean, this summer, she. The tour is going to Australia, New Zealand, and Europe. So.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wait a.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Wait a minute. So she attacked. So she attacked. Well, I shouldn't use the term loosely, tag alone, but she'll be going with you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wait a minute, hold on, hold on. You. You on tour?

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Gary Owen]

It's called no feelings.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, hey, listen. Hey, listen. What you think about me opening up for you one night?

[Gary Owen]

All right, that's fine. Be ready. I'll be waiting in the wings.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Gary, all of a sudden, you don't seem overly enthused by that.

[Gary Owen]

Okay, I'LL give him a shot. I'll give you a shot. You want to go up? Yeah.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

I like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I appreciate it. Appreciate it.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Gary, when you do you have. Do you have a regular. A person that normally opens up or do you give. Go to different cities and have different comedians?

[Gary Owen]

No, I got. I got two guys I rotate. So they mean they. They pick their cities and they. They switch up. So they got two guys in real. I kind of rotate them.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Ah, that's. That's awesome.

[Joe Johnson]

That's okay.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

That's cool. That's. That's awesome. So who would you say. Who would you say, like, when you was like, get. Like, you give these guys an opportunity to rotate, who gave you your first big break here?

[Gary Owen]

Well, Guy. Tory was the first one to put me on stage in la. I would have to say Guy, because he had. He had a Fat Tuesdays back in the day on Sunset Strip.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Well, I know you love Fat Tuesday because, boy, they have. But go ahead and tell the story.

[Gary Owen]

It's bittersweet because that's where I met my first wife.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, Fat, you remember a place, Gary, called Shark Bar? Come on.

[Gary Owen]

What about the Century Club on Sundays? Remember that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, wait. Oh, in la, in la, yeah. Century Club, they had that. When I way. I'm talking about way, way back.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah, special, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I remember that, man.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

G. Congratulations on the marriage. Congratulations on the twins. Congratulations on all the success, the tour. No one is more is. I don't like to say deserve. You get what you earned. No one has earned this more than you. The time that you put in, you're you. I, from what I can tell, I've never really hung around you personally, but from everybody that I've talked to that's in the space that you in, nobody has ever uttered a word negative, even off camera, about Gary Owen. And I think if somebody. If you can find people that can speak positive about you, even when the microphone or the cameras aren't rolling, you've done a good job. You've done a good job.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah, well, I just try to treat everybody. I just try to be cool with everybody. That's it. I don't ask no, I don't ask nothing from them. Just. Just be cool. Chad knows I've been around. Said a lot. I've seen. I. When Chad was at the top of his game in Cincinnati, when they had Carson Palmer and Hush Manzada and Rudy Johnson and all them, I saw people come to Chad. I was like, I was almost get disgusted at the things they would ask. He. Okay, let me Tell you how disgusting people are real quick. That 2006 season, every week, Chad would draw a name out of a hat, and he would leave people two tickets to the home game. And if it was a road game, he'd fly them in and put them up every week. So we had this raffle, and he pulled names out. One week, this lady came up first. She came up to me and said, can I talk to Chad? I said, I don't. I'm not going to be the go between. You can get.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

I ain't his manager.

[Gary Owen]

And then she came up to Chad and said, hey, the. We got tickets. The hotel was great. The flight was great. But, yeah, we. It was like 60 bucks for a cab. And I was like, you gotta be me for the cab fair. I was like, people, man.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah, Joe. That's what Joe and I was talking about last week, about somebody being ungrateful. Yeah. You get two tickets, you get accommodations. You get. You get a flight to the city, you get accommodations. And you mean to tell me you want the man to give you 60 bucks for. For.

[Gary Owen]

I saw what happened. I saw what happened. I was like, you got to be kidding me.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

But see, but when. But when we talk about, oh, man, that didn't happen. You over. And guess what, Gary? And this is how the chat operate. Well, chad, you making five, six million dollars. You should have just gave us $60, not thinking about what you had already done, which you didn't have to do.

[Joe Johnson]

Right?

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

I. I was. I wasn't. I was like, damn, Ocho, you giving up free tickets to the home?

[Gary Owen]

I was there.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

He said, no. He was giving that ticket to road games. He would fly them to the city, give them tickets, put them up. And then somebody complained about not getting $60. I'm surprised, Ocho. They didn't say you didn't give us a per deal.

[Gary Owen]

Here's our receipt for our beers and our fries. I was so taken back by that. I was all. I was. I was disgusted. I was disgusted by it.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

I go, yeah, but I tell you what. July, you say July 17th, the Venetian.

[Gary Owen]

Yup.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

If I'm here in Vegas, I'm coming.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, matter of fact, wait. You and you in Vegas on the 17th of July.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Matter of fact. Hey, Joe, make sure you. You block your calendars. That'll be the show where I open for you.

[Gary Owen]

Okay. Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Gary Owen]

Hey, Shannon. Joe, I got. He came through for my wedding. I can't say no.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Gary Owen]

There's no way I can say no. And I'm be like, if I say no, I'm worse than the $60 people got. Gotta let him go up. He did me a solid. He didn't charge nothing for the wedding.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Oh, Lord. I, I now, I definitely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I got some good material, too.

[Gary Owen]

Well, I ain't. I. You sell to me.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Give him five minutes and help him. Gary, can you help him for five minutes? Yeah, you can do something.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm good. I'm good in front of crowds. I'm very good in front of crowds. I'm very engaged. And I have. I have something most people don't have. It's called stage presence. I become one with the crowd. I got you.

[Gary Owen]

Okay. Okay. Wait. Yeah, yeah.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, Gary. Hey, Gary. Just in case, have somebody on stand.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

I'm just.

[Gary Owen]

No, no, no, no, no.

[T-Mobile Advertiser]

He's.

[Gary Owen]

It's not just gonna be me and Chad. I'm gonna have a mother. He like. Sounds like a guy trying to get into porn.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Dude, I perform.

[Gary Owen]

All right, we're gonna have this other dude waiting in the wings

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

just in case.

[Gary Owen]

Got Mr. Marcus.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Oh, man, that's unbelievable, man. Gary, thank you for joining us tonight, man. We appreciate this, man. Tell the family I said hello to the. The new wife, the new kids, man. Congratulations on all the success.

[Gary Owen]

All right?

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Again, look down the road.

[Gary Owen]

I appreciate you guys.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

All right, baby.

[Joe Johnson]

Congrats, bro. Yes, sir.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

The very funny Gary Owen, man. Hey, he. I mean, you know what? When you funny without trying to be funny, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, that's who. Hey, that's me. You hear me? Hunt Joe, Huh? Right? That's right up my alley, huh? I don't try to be funny. Sometimes I get on stage and they just start laughing before I even say anything. Well, God damn. Can I tell the joke first? Yeah, yeah.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

I just disappointed that at the people that after you did all that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, I wasn't tripping. I just gave him $6 you know, out my pocket. I really wasn't tripping. I understood everyone. Some. Some people aren't in a position, you know, where they, you know. You know what I mean? So I kind of. I kind of saw it in that light.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Well, you shouldn't have went. You shouldn't have went. If you're not in a position, if you can't afford a cab fare from the. From the airport to the hotel or the hotel to the game and vice versa, don't go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I understand, but I don't think. I don't think winning two tickets, being able to go to a bangle game out of town, you know, and your room is Already paid for. All you have to do is just check in and go to the game. I. I kind of saw from there and not having the fun, so I just gave him the six.

[Joe Johnson]

Ocho, you did this for a full season?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, hold on, Joe. We had games, right? We had. We had seasons where I'm sure some people in the chat that have been watching football long enough. We had some games where the games was blacked out, Joe, because they didn't sell enough tickets. Joe, I bought up the rest of the tickets so everybody in Cincinnati could watch the game. I refuse to let our game get blacked out. I used to do some crazy stuff, boy. Some crazy stuff just to make sure them people was entertained, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, man, you might. You might be.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I'm a cool dude. I just.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

That just go. That just goes to show you, ain't nobody watching the Broncos. They never had no black that day.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, I mean, y'.

[Gary Owen]

All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y' all ain't really had no bad days like we had. Now, you got to understand why when I got that.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

What I've been trying to tell you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, hey, Joe, we.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, but that's outstanding. I know. I ain't buying no tickets, Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We was a laugh. He was a laughing stock of the league, boy. Dude, when I first got there, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I know what you mean, O. Joe. I know. Trust me. I promise.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When you play with. Was that bad?

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Me, Atlanta, when I first got it, they had.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

When you first got the Atlanta hog was terrible.

[Joe Johnson]

Before I got. Before I got here, they won nine games. Before I got. Well, when I got here, we win. But 29 damn games. Out of 82.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, okay. Out of 82.

[Joe Johnson]

I know what it. Out of 82. Listen, so, like, I know what it feel like when you walk into the arena. I'm talking about. It's empty. We probably had three, 400 people seem, like, in the stand. It was bad. Oh, Joe.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

And you can hear the. But you can hear the basketball bouncing,

[Joe Johnson]

Joe, you can hear more than this. It was bad.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

You hear everything. Everybody talking, the conversation.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, it was bad. It's hard to, like, kind of get yourself going. You know what I'm saying?

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

You ain't.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I done been there, bro.

[Gary Owen]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, we. We was, like, one. We won one game one year. Two games the next year. I think seven one year.

[Host (Uncle Ocho)]

Oh, that. That before. That's how y' all got cars. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah. Exactly. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.