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Nightcap - Hour 1: CFP snoozefest, Lamar vs. Allen for MVP, Mahomes carries Chiefs
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Savannah Guthrie
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Shannon Sharpe
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
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Shannon Sharpe
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Shannon Sharpe
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Please subscribe button. Please hit the like button. And do us another favor. Go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. And because you're joining us tonight, thank you for your loyalty. Thank you for your continued loyalty and thank you for helping us become what we've become thus far. And with your continued support, we'll get even better and we'll grow even faster. So again, thank you. Make sure you check out Shade by La Portier. We do have it in stock. The holidays are upon us. And what better way to celebrate the holidays than with a bottle of Shea by La Portier. Now, we have expanded. We're going to be in about 16 stores. We just got distribution in Florida. We just got distribution in Illinois. So we'll be in those states at the top of the year, just not yet. So with that being said, if you cannot find Shea by La Portier in a city or state near you, just order it. Shea by laportier.com cognac. We'll ship it right to your house. Unfortunately, we're not going to be able to ensure you you'll get it by the holidays. But that being said, we do have it in stock and we can get it to you by the top of the year or the beginning of the new year. So again, thank you for your support. And one more thing. Please drink responsibly. Go check out my media company page on all of its platforms that Shay Shay Media and my clothing company, 84. Our newest releases just dropped last week and we have stocking stuffers such as beanies, koozies and mugs. Quantities are limited, so make sure you grab yours. Hopefully everyone have received or started to receive their orders, with the remaining orders being delivered by Monday. And here's what the merch looks like.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, can I tell you something real quick?
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm very happy to announce that while I was here in New York, my package was delivered to the house. My little brother called me. He FaceTimed me. I want to thank my entire team. Unk, Ash, everyone else involved. Appreciate you for my package. So now you understand when I'm wearing it now for the next two to three months. Oh, you know why?
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Shannon Sharpe
This is not officially my travel gear. When I get my black assortment.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
There you go. There you go.
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Shannon Sharpe
Look, I don't mean any harm, but I'll be in all black. So a flight attendants and pilots, do not be alarmed. Yeah, here's the pants to go. The bottoms, Ocho.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, that's right.
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Shannon Sharpe
And I didn't realize this, but check this out, Ocho. We got the zip up hoodie.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ain't gonna be able to tell me nothing. I'm gonna. Hey, I'm gonna treat this like it's like. It's like his designer. I'm talking about high end. This is high end designer. For me.
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Shannon Sharpe
It is high end. Trust me. Yeah.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, yeah. You ain't got to tell me twice how you felt the quality. Do me a favor.
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Shannon Sharpe
Go back, go back.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And feel the quality on it, on that cotton.
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Shannon Sharpe
Well, you know, we only going to do stuff high end.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, man, listen. What.
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Shannon Sharpe
That's, that's, that's why it costs a little more. And I. Hopefully people appreciate that. Yeah, the cost. But we do use very, very high end quality fabrics because we don't want, after one or two washes, it shrinks or it starts to discolor. So that's why the price point is where it is. And here the, the stocking stuffers, the, the beanies or scullies or whatever you want to call them, we have those in stock. So thank you very much. Like I said, everyone should have started receiving their orders and hopefully the remaining orders will be delivered by Monday, Tuesday. Hopefully you have everything by Monday and Tuesday. Guys, we really, really appreciate you guys. Thank you for your support of supporting all things Nightcap. We greatly, greatly appreciate it. And do us a favor, drop some comments and let us know what you think about the merch that you received and the quality of the merch that you received. Hey, again, two tickets for the super bowl show in New Orleans. Our first, our first spring tour stop. The tickets are on sale now. The link is pinned at the top of the chat February 6th. What the hell did I do? Yeah, I'm writing all over it, like, extra sketch. Hey, I read that thing like it's an extra sketch. I don't cross that. I don't know. The link is pinned at the top of the chat February 6th in New Orleans. Be there. Yeah, don't want to miss it. We have some great guests being lined up. Thank you so much again, guys. We've been nominated for two sports podcast awards. Best American Football Podcast and best Sports Comedy Podcast. Again, Best American Football Podcast and best Sports Comedy Podcast. Those are the two awards that we've been. That we've been nominated for. Please go show your support in both. The link is at the top of the chat, pinned in our social pages and all of our social bios. OJo. The number 8 Buckeyes of Ohio State. Take down. The number 9 Tennessee Volunteers by the school.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Take down. Take down.
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Shannon Sharpe
Took apart. Go ahead.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, now. I respect the committee. I respect the decisions. Obviously, everything is based on how you've done throughout the season as far as the committee is concerned when it comes to picking teams to make the playoffs. But it looks like I'm gonna let you. I'm gonna let you go. It looks like Tennessee didn't even belong. Not only on the field tonight, being the conversation, even making the goddamn playoffs.
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Shannon Sharpe
I don't know nobody this weekend. Indiana didn't look like they belong. Clemson. It had been very interesting had Clemson got it on 4th and goal, right, make it a one score game, we'd have been interesting. But SMU and Penn State 38, I mean two pick sixes. I mean the game was basically over for all intents and purposes before it got started. And we saw this game tonight. Tennessee really was never a threat and they did a great job surviving because Ohio State gone in and going up 28 to nothing. I felt it was going to get really, really out of hand. Even though this game ended up getting out of hand, I thought Tennessee could have made something out of it because they got to stop. But this game, for all intents and purposes, it really wasn't close. But what it does, it sets up a rematch between Ohio State and the number one Oregon Ducks at the Rose Bowl. Remember Ohio State lost to the Ducks in Oregon in Eugene. I think that's where they play by the score of 32, 31 on October 12th. So it's a very interesting matchup. I think Oregon is like, hold on, wait a minute. How we get a team like this and then these other teams get these others, right? Not so much how Penn State get Boise State. That should be reversed. We the number one team, we should get a lesser seed. But it is what it is. I mean, I think everybody is very excited that they're in the College Football Playoff. That made it. Obviously the teams that won ojo, they are very excited that they get to move on and they're one step closer to playing for the national championship.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The funny thing too also, listen, I love, I love Ohio State. I love, you know, the way they've looked throughout, throughout the season. Obviously, Jeremiah Smith. I just want to say his name. Boy. Young bull boy. You special boy. I've been watching you since high school. I watch your growth obviously at the college level right now. You look good. And the rematch, the rematch of that game that they had October 12, where I think it's a different, it's a different organ now Unk. And I think that's why they're able to compete with some of the big dogs. You know, the physicality up front, you know, the organ is no longer small up front. Defense land offensively, the physicality in which they bring, they bring to the game now, along with the speed that they do have, it makes them that much more dangerous, you know, to have to deal with when it's time to play. So that's going to be a good game. And I'm not sure if the end result would be any different than it did when they played in. When they played October 12th.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Didn't what you call them go for the two point conversion? Did Ohio State, did Oregon pick up a first down or something? But anyway it was a very good game. Very good game. This was what we wanted to see from Oregon because normally when they step up in competition and they play bigger physical football teams, they normally succumb to that physicality, but not this time around. The Oregon Ducks, they took the number one seed and they haven't looked back. They really haven't been challenged a whole lot this year. So it's going to be very interesting to see what Ohio State can do if they're. Because these teams that know each other, they played each other. So obviously there's a few new wrinkles that you want to add. Right. But for the most part we've had six. But we scored 33. I mean we scored 32 points so we know we can score on them. But you don't have the advantage of playing at home. And don't let anybody tell you home field mean something. There's a reason why everybody's scratching try to get home field. Be it the NBA, be at the NFL, be it college, it does not matter. You want to play in front of your crowd. But this is a supposedly a neutral site. These, this is what normally happens. The Big Ten normally would play before they the College Football Playoff. The Big Ten would always play the Rose bowl which is the granddaddy of it all. So it would have the Pac 10 versus the Big 10. No longer with the college, the bowl the way it's set, set up. This is what we get now. But Ohio State looked really good. Will Howard was 24, 29, 311 yards, two touchdowns. They ran the ball 33 rushes, 156 yards, four touchdowns. Like you said, Smith, six catches for a buckle. Three. Two tubs. All right. Eguka. Eguka. We had five for 81 but they look really really good. Oo, I mean Ohio State looked really really good today. Tennessee is not a bad team.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, no.
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Shannon Sharpe
But I think the fact of being on the road, being in that environment, playing against a team that's equally as physical, have the same like caliber athlete that you possess on the football field. I think it was a little bit too much for them to overcome. And their quarterback did not play particularly well. He didn't throw the ball well. 14 to 31, 104 yards. They ran it 39 times for 152. So that kind of shows you what they're trying to do with the game, trying to shorten the game. But what you gonna do ojo when a team races out 21? Nothing. You kind of limited. You kind of have to throw your way back in the football game because you're going to run out of time. You run yourself out of the game trying to run your back, way back into the ball game. But Tennessee had a very good season. You figured they made the Cosby inaugural College Football Playoff, right? I think that's what you could expect from the Tennessee Volunteers. I don't think anybody expected any much more than that. But give the Ohio State Buckeyes credit. They played extremely well tonight. Anything else you want to add to that?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, that's. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it, boss man. That's it.
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Shannon Sharpe
All right, the Chiefs down the Houston, Texas 2719. Patrick Mahomes looked really, really good even though he had to suffer that high ankle sprain against Cleveland last week.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Andy Reid says he spoils the dog ish out of us.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Houston suffered a big, big, severe loss. Tankdale catches a touchdown, holds onto the ball, but goes down with a severe, severe knee injury. You could tell his teammates were distraught. CJ Stroud, who mentioned that he's his best friend, knowing it didn't look good. And he immediately pointed to his knee. I mean, think about it. He held onto the ball as he knows something is going on severely with that knee. He did a great job of holding onto the ball, but man, yeah, that's unfortunate.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And obviously I think a lot of people you see, you look at the emotion on C.J. stroud's face, you see the other players that are part of the Texans, you see even the Chiefs players. I think people need to understand. I know, I know there's a game going on and when the whistle blows in between the lines, you are not friends. But you never want to see someone part of your fraternity, somebody part of your brotherhood. You never want to see him down. You never want to see him hurt, especially in a situation like that. I mean, it's unfortunate. My prayers to Tank Dale, hoping he has a speedy recovery on what are the issue, whatever the issue and the injury may be and he gets back to. He gets. Gets back to full health and full strength, you know, as fast as possible. As far as the game's concerned, the Texans didn't help themselves. The Texans didn't help themselves today. It having a chance even win the game, obviously turning the ball over, having two turnovers, again, you pay double for those. Especially playing against the team like the Chiefs, who can score at will. And the Chiefs getting points off those turnovers, putting you behind the eight ball somewhat in a sense. As far as the running game goes, they weren't able to get mixed and really going enough. Kind of, kind of threatened. Threatened the pass game obviously, before Tank Dale went out. Hell, he was, he was the, the leading receiver. He had I think maybe 70, 70 for 90 something, you know. Right.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Six foot 96, six for 98 on the touchdown.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, and TD, you know, when he went down. And after that, the Texans weren't really able to get anything going. They weren't really getting any. To get anything going. The running game was okay. It. It wasn't enough, you know, for them to be able to do anything with this game. And now you just, you can't, you can't turn the ball over against the Chiefs, man. Now there was some questionable.
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Shannon Sharpe
Not on the road. You can't turn the ball over against any team on the road, Ocho, because you set yourself up, you're asking for trouble.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Trouble. Yeah, most of it.
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Shannon Sharpe
Especially early in the game. Like they turned. Had that one turnover early in the game, Ocho.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You can't do it against a team like this, though. You can't do it because again, like you say, you say it all the time. Moments matter in the game. And when 15 has those moments when it matters most, nine times out of 10, he's going to capitalize on those moments. You just can't. You got to give yourself a chance to even win the game.
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Shannon Sharpe
I think the thing that's really helping the Chiefs because if you look at their offense, I'm looking at. I pulled up Mahomes numbers. Ocho, he had 260 today. He had 159 against Cleveland, he had 210 against the Chargers, 306 against Vegas, 269 against Carolina, 196 against Buffalo, 266 against Denver, 291 against Tampa and another 260. But if you go back and look at. He's only turned the ball over three times in the last eight games. And I think that's why you're not going to win close. It's hard to win close ball games when you turn the ball over.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right.
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Shannon Sharpe
If you look at their, their record against one, I think they won 15 or 16 straight in one possession games.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
That just goes to, I mean I don't know of any other quarterback with the way his offensive line open holes for the defenders to come get it. I don't know Ocho. And they don't really have explosive plays. If you go look at it, they have the most 10 play drives but they have like, they're like 27th or 28th in 20 plus yard plays.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
So that just goes to show you they're nickel and diming their way down the field. But you know this as the field gets condensed as you get into the red zone now, it gets harder and harder because guys are not going to dissipate. They don't have to move as far because they, they know you can't do anything but drop the ball in front. We come make a tackle. But Patrick Mahomes has done a great job of protecting the football, especially the last five games. He hasn't fumbled, thrown an interception. So 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. So you have last five games, Ojo? Yeah, he has zero. He has zero interception. And that's what gives them an opportunity to be in all these games. So now it's a one score game. Ocho. We need to get into field goal range to beat you. We need a touchdown to beat you. And we can get that done.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And see, it's stuff like this, the small things like this that you did that you just mentioned that the casual fan doesn't pay attention to, you know, when it matters most, we. At the end of the season, who do you want the ball and who, and whose hands do you want the ball in at the end of the game?
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Shannon Sharpe
Patrick Mahomes.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Every time.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. In the last 25 years. I don't know if you want anybody the ball in anybody hand. The only person that you can categorically say you want the ball in their hand over the last 25 years is Tom Brady.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, that's it.
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Shannon Sharpe
Nobody else is even close. And that's not a knock on any of the other great quarterbacks.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right.
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Shannon Sharpe
Because they've been some great quarterback.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Don't get me wrong. You talk about Peyton Manning, you talk about Big Ben, you talk about Drew Brees or you talk about a Lamar, you talk about a Joe Burrow, you talk about or whomever Josh Allen. There's, there's only two. There's only one guy that you say hands down or and maybe now after what he's been doing over the. Over the last three years. Ocho.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Because you're like, damn, they lose. Tyreek, one of the most dangerous wide receivers in not just recently in the.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
History of the game.
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Shannon Sharpe
And they won back. They won back to back Super Bowls. He's a back to back MVP and he snuck another 5,000 yard pass this season and a regular season MVP in there. It's hard to say you'd rather take somebody over him in the last 25 years other than Brady. Yeah.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I mean, it's not. If you watch the game of football, you understand that no matter who you're a fan of, no matter what team you like, when you look at the body of work and its totality and what Mahomes has been able to do, regardless of the pieces changing around him and still being able to compete not only at a high level, but compete for Lombardi in the championship. Understanding that it doesn't matter what you move around me, as long as I'm always on point when it comes to my decision making with the ball in my head, not putting my team's. My team's. My team in harm's way when it matters most. You gonna always have a chance.
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Shannon Sharpe
Your TV is on. It's reflecting in the back. It is. Yeah.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
There it is. How about that? How about that?
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You know, I'd be a little nervous now. I'm scared of the dog now. So I just had a TV on for a little extra light.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. I. And I think what, what hurts even more is that his teammate, the one that got him.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
On the injury.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Because he just happened to be there and then, you know, he falls back on his knee. Friendly fire. It happens, Ocho. It happens a lot of times when receivers are blocking and the pile's coming and you get rolled up on. Yeah. Or. Or defender. You trying to make a tackle and you gotta get you right. But it's tough because they had started like, remember they missed what Nico Collins missed like two or three, like two or three weeks, maybe even a month.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Because of his hamstring injury. Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
And then now you just getting him back. And now you see C.J. starting to get. Try to get a rhythm, get back in sync with those guys. And now he goes down. Now what you call him goes down. Tank Dale, who's the second best receiver? You've already lost? Stephan Diggs.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
So now Mechi and the other guys are going to have to step up to help Nico Collins do some of that heavy lifting. I thought one of the turning points of the ball game was a third and six, and C.J. got the blitz in his face, and he did a great job of getting the ball out. And the ball hit Dalton Schultz in the hand.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He dropped it. But hold on. Hey, Unk. Soon as I said it, why the fuck did I think about you? You always said if the ball is. If the ball is below your waist, your hand placement has to be on. You can't catch a third down. And trying to catch the ball below your waist with your hands up like this.
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Shannon Sharpe
You can't. You gotta turn it the other way.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You turn your hands the other way.
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Shannon Sharpe
So you. You.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You fighting against. You fighting the ball.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Because the thing is, Ocho, you do it like that, and that ball hit is gone down to the ground.
- [27:28]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Bingo. And that's exactly what it did.
- [27:30]
Shannon Sharpe
Yep, yep.
- [27:31]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And listen, small things, little things, you know? But it makes a difference, because if you catch that third down, it makes a difference in the game. It keeps the drive going.
- [27:41]
Shannon Sharpe
Yep, yep, yep. Absolutely right. And so it also hurts. There's nothing more disheartening. Ocho, you get a nice touchdown. Everybody's celebrating. Yeah. And the kicker bring his funky ass on the field. And Mr. P. I don't care what anybody say. Yeah. I'm happy. I'm like, damn, bro. How you guess that?
- [28:05]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Listen, every. Every.
- [28:06]
Shannon Sharpe
Since.
- [28:06]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ever since they moved the field goals back, ever since they narrowed the goal.
- [28:10]
Shannon Sharpe
Post, the field goal, that was a Coach Belichick decision. Hey, Coach Belichick was the one that really recommended it, he said, because it was so. It was too automatic, right? So guys were making, like, 90, what, 96% of the kicks. And it was almost a foregone conclusion. Now. Now it's not a foregone conclusion.
- [28:26]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, not at all. Not at all.
- [28:28]
Shannon Sharpe
Cause we just caught somebody who just called a touchdown. Ocho, Somebody just had to cut. Touchdown. And they missed a pat. They would have tied the game.
- [28:35]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Yeah.
- [28:37]
Shannon Sharpe
Who's that? And that was recently.
- [28:40]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I don't know. But listen, if that was Bill Belichick's idea, I think it was very good, especially for the game, because it puts everything at limbo. Because you never know, no matter how good kickers are. You're Justin Tucker's, your Buckners. Who missed one. Who missed. I think. Who missed one last week? Tucker, who missed some last week, I don't think.
- [28:57]
Shannon Sharpe
Commander against the Cowboys. Remember the Commanders, just the Cowboys. He hit Terry McLaurin.
- [29:02]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [29:03]
Shannon Sharpe
Terry McLaurin goes 89 yards and the guy comes out there. And he missed the path.
- [29:07]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Yeah. It's unfortunate.
- [29:10]
Shannon Sharpe
So the Baltimore Ravens defeated the Pittsburgh Steelers by the score of 34 to 17. They clinch a playoff spot. Move one game now. They win Pittsburgh lose. They take over sole possession of the of the AFC South. The two teams are tied atop the division at 10 and 5 heading into the final two weeks of the regular season. The Ravens stress ball security all week, turning the ball over 19 times in the past nine games against the Steelers. Today, it was the Ravens that forced the takeaways. They forced the pick six Marlon Humphrey pick Russell Wilson after Minka Fitzpatrick had picked Lamar Jackson. Yeah, and then Russell Wilson. I don't know why he didn't slide. Cause Russell normally slides.
- [29:55]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, yeah.
- [29:56]
Shannon Sharpe
But the fumble got into a situation. He thought he could run the guy over, and the guy walloped him and the ball popped out. Because, Ocho, they're going in to score touchdowns.
- [30:05]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, yeah.
- [30:05]
Shannon Sharpe
And now you don't even get any points out of that drive. They take the ball and go back down the field the other way.
- [30:11]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right.
- [30:12]
Shannon Sharpe
But the Ravens played really good today.
- [30:14]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, very, very.
- [30:15]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, Chad. Did y'all notice anything today? Oh, did y'all notice anything today?
- [30:20]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
How many? How many carries? How many?
- [30:22]
Shannon Sharpe
24 carries above 62. 24 carries. Now guess how many throws Lamar Jackson had.
- [30:30]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
How many?
- [30:31]
Shannon Sharpe
23.
- [30:32]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, one.
- [30:34]
Shannon Sharpe
What?
- [30:34]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
One.
- [30:35]
Shannon Sharpe
You can tell. Unk. Unk. Just watch the highlight. Unk ain't watching no games. Unk has watched a thousand games.
- [30:41]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes, sir.
- [30:42]
Shannon Sharpe
And Unk understands how the game goes. That guy in the backfield makes the game a lot easier for Lamar. Yeah, because now he's shooting fish in a barrel. You know why? Because when he sticks that ball in that number two two belly and he pulls it out, all of a sudden them safety's running downhill. Because it's very hard to stop 6 foot 2, 245 pounds with a light.
- [31:04]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Box, especially when it's coming downhill. Now, you want somebody that big, you want them going east to west. Now, if they're going east to west, it's okay. You got a chance. But once he's coming downhill, man, listen, may God be with you.
- [31:17]
Shannon Sharpe
But you know what, Ocho? They did something different. They did a lot of. They put him in. They actually put him in the offset.
- [31:22]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes, sir.
- [31:22]
Shannon Sharpe
And he did a lot of rolling back. Get the ball going one way. He ran it back. Yeah, but give that Ravens offensive line credit. They did an outstanding job. Because you talk about a team that gives up 94 yards a game rushing and today they ran the ball 38 times for 220 yards.
- [31:41]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, really? Well, listen, I'm not sure. I might be wrong. Correct me if I'm wrong, Ash, if anybody that can hear me in the back, I think Lamar against the Steelers, he might have been 1 and 3, maybe 1 and 4, something like this against the Steelers. So this is. Yeah, this is one of his first times winning and winning in convincing fashion in somewhat of a playoff. A playoff atmosphere. This is what it would be like. This would be like. Obviously, I wouldn't say you would be playing the Steelers, but still, a game this magnitude where everything needs to go right. Everything needs to go right. Offensively, defensively, they played very, very well. And for Lamar, obviously, kudos to him as well. I think he has 36, 37 touchdowns passes he thrown this season.
- [32:19]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I think he has 37 and another three rushing. So he has 40 touchdowns with four interceptions. He has a couple of fumbles, but he has fewer than. He has fewer than eight turnovers. Yeah, with 40 interceptions.
- [32:29]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Absolutely.
- [32:30]
Shannon Sharpe
Now, now, everybody keeps saying with those numbers. Y'all didn't say those numbers last year because LaMar Jackson had 23 touchdowns and eight interceptions. Y'all said it was the record. Look at his team. Now, y'all want to flip it because your guy got the better numbers, right? And y'all don't want to look at the record, right? So what are we doing? Is it recording? Because y'all make it seem like Josh Allen got 22 yards passing. I just go by what y'all said. Because last year when Lamar Jackson had 23 passing touchdowns, Ocho. And eight interceptions, right? They said Lamar was the MVP because look at the record, Shannon. Isn't it about winning or about stats? I just want to know. Yeah, Buffalo's record, is it about winning or is it about stance? I'm just asking, Chat. Y'all enlighten me.
- [33:14]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Well, listen, every. It depends on who you asked. It depends on who you ask. Now, your answer is going to change depending on who you ask. The goal post going to move, too. Now, you know, it all depends on.
- [33:24]
Shannon Sharpe
Who go the gold line. I mean, I thought the field was 100 yards, y'all. It's 150 now. Damn. I wonder why I didn't score.
- [33:30]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Can I ask you a question for the honest answer? Hey, Chat.
- [33:33]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes, y'all.
- [33:34]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Y'all let me know. Also in the chat, if you had to pick today if there was an MVP tomorrow for you based on what they've done this season, I'm not sure how you, I don't know how you gauge it. I don't know how you grade it. Who is your mvp? Be honest. Be honest with yourself and you know, take the favoritism out. Even if it is your team who's your mvp.
- [33:53]
Shannon Sharpe
Boy, that's tough. It's tough, man, because it's hard to ignore Lamar's season. The man has 37 passing touchdowns with four interceptions and he's probably around what, 4,000 yards?
- [34:08]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What?
- [34:08]
Shannon Sharpe
He had 30 because he was like 3,700 yards. So he's going to be over 4,000 yards.
- [34:14]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [34:15]
Shannon Sharpe
Tell me you had Lamar Jackson passing for 40 touchdowns and 4,000 passing yards in a season when he got drafted. That wasn't on anybody's bingo card because a lot of people said he should move to running back or he should switch positions. And so not only is he going to have these numbers, he's a two time league mvp, a potential three time league mvp. Here's the problem that he's running into.
- [34:38]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes, sir.
- [34:38]
Shannon Sharpe
We had this conversation on first take. Is Lamar Jackson career a failure if he doesn't win a Super Bowl? I said no. I said it's a disappointment because no other two time league MVP has failed to win a Super Bowl. And at the end of the day, that's the only thing that's left off this resume. Now we can't change it because we like that, because we hold that against guys that don't win. Especially they say, well, you don't judge Josh Allen. Josh Allen ain't got no MVPs. Well, you don't judge Joe Burrow ain't got no MVPs. Right. Justin Herbert ain't got no MVPs. So we have to judge Lamar because there's only three guys that got MVPs. Regular season MVPs. That's still playing.
- [35:19]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [35:21]
Shannon Sharpe
Aaron Rodgers got four MVPs. He has a Super bowl, right. Patrick Mahomes got three Super Bowls, got two MVPs. He got three Super Bowls. So the only other guy that's playing in the league right now that has a league mvp, right, is Lamar. Is Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson, Aaron Rodgers and Patrick Mahomes.
- [35:39]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You know, some people, some people will be upset. Some people will argue the fact that Lamar Jackson is treated unfairly based on the standard in which we hold him to because of the MVPs. But that is the standard that we hold places. That's the standard though, once they achieve, you know, some of that. Yes.
- [35:57]
Shannon Sharpe
But people, I'm glad you're saying, yeah, I'm Saying what needs to be seen.
- [36:02]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But people don't see it that way, huh? Especially when it's a player you like. Especially when you're a fan of said player. You know, they're able to separate and compartmentalize and you know, and separate. Hell, okay, he had two MVPs, but still look at the season he's having. If he doesn't happen to win a Super bowl, it's still okay to them.
- [36:20]
Shannon Sharpe
Lamar Jackson has thrown for four. He has thrown for 12 more touchdowns than what he had last year. With two games to play, he's already at four, basically 400 yards, 400 more passing yards than what he's thrown for that he throw for last year he was 25 and 5 last year he won the MVP because they were 14 and 2. QBR. He's first in QBR last year, he's second in QBR this year. And I think what's going to hurt him, Ocho, is that he got a guy that's got 1500 plus yards rushing in his backfield. Oh yeah, they gonna look at this and hold on. Josh Allen lost Stephon Diggs, Josh Allen lost Gabe Davis, Josh Allen lost Michael Hyde, Poirier, Trevarius White. Von Miller was in and out of the lineup. So they're looking at all the pieces that he didn't have, right? And it says he got his team with the potential. Now it's all gonna be off or not. If the Chiefs beat the Ravens, if the Chiefs beat the Steelers on Christmas, it doesn't matter because they'd be for. There'll be 15 and one with one game to play, right? And the Bills already have three losses. So it doesn't matter what would happen after that. So they would be. At worst case scenario, they finished 15, two, potentially 16 and one if they go beat the Broncos. But I see a scenario where Patrick Mahomes is not stepping on the field against the Denver Broncos if they win, if they win that game next year. So with that being said, I think it's very hard to ignore what Lamar is doing. But I think the thing is, because Josh has been so spectacular in the national televised games, right? Because we just saw him go on the road and do what he did at Detroit. And even on a losing record, he did something that hadn't been done in 70 years. He threw for three touchdowns, he ran for three touchdowns. And then we saw the guy run for a touchdown, catch for a touchdown, throw for a touchdown in the previous week, right? So it's going to be very, very hard for Lamar to come overcome that. But it's a two man race. I thought it was a two man race the last two weeks of the last two weeks.
- [38:25]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [38:25]
Shannon Sharpe
But Lamar is right there. And everybody's like, well, Josh Allen won the MVP last week when he went to Detroit and did what he did. I said, no, he didn't.
- [38:32]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [38:32]
Shannon Sharpe
I said, lamar Jackson is right. Lamar Jackson is right there. And he absolutely 1,000% is right there. Derrick Henry, again, 24 foot, but 62 also. With that being said, Derrick Henry is an elite company with his fourth 1500 yard rushing season, which only trails Barry Sanders, who has five. Now, if I'm not mistaken, Barry finished his last season with 1498.
- [39:03]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And he. Okay.
- [39:05]
Shannon Sharpe
And walked away.
- [39:06]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [39:07]
Shannon Sharpe
Cause if I'm not mistaken, he played the Ravens. He had 1500. And I think he got tackled for a loss. Are you putting 1491. But he was in the Russian titles. He had the Russian title. One the Asbury. Did he want to go back in and win the Russian title? And he told him no. He said, I'm good. The Russian title. Ocho let that sink in.
- [39:29]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [39:30]
Shannon Sharpe
He said, no, I'm good.
- [39:32]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He was like. He was. He was. Listen, do you know the backstory behind that? I mean, the real backstory on why he said, you know what? I can't do this anymore. It has to be. Yeah, it got to be bad back.
- [39:41]
Shannon Sharpe
Well, he felt. He felt like he was really. Barry was really close. They had. All of a sudden, they had gotten rid of Glover, who was one of his best friend, who was the center. He ended up going to Seattle. They had started moving pieces, and he didn't see them bringing the pieces in that help him compete for a title.
- [40:00]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right.
- [40:00]
Shannon Sharpe
He's like, I'm out here doing all this, but for what? So I walked away.
- [40:05]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [40:07]
Shannon Sharpe
And they thought. They thought by holding his money hostage and making him pay that he was gonna come out, you know, Barry, I could be wrong, but when I look at Barry and I talk to Barry, right. Barry was good at football. I don't know if he loved football. His dad loved football. And he loved his dad.
- [40:27]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right.
- [40:28]
Shannon Sharpe
Because his dad always gave him that character check. He say, son, you good, but you ain't Walter Payton. You good, but you ain't Jim Brown. Because those are the guys that his dad grew up watching. And Barry was trying to get his dad's approval. I believe his dad. I believe his dad loved. He sincerely loved his son, but he wanted his son to chase that level of greatness. And he felt the Only way that he could get him to do that was to like telling me that he wasn't better. Mr. Sanders, I don't know. I saw Walter play. I never got a chance to say, jim, play, right. But, boy, you had to see this man play to appreciate just how. What you saw, what you were watching.
- [41:10]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, yeah.
- [41:10]
Shannon Sharpe
Because we had never seen anything like it. And you'll never see anything like it again.
- [41:14]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, absolutely not.
- [41:16]
Shannon Sharpe
He could play it on. He could stop on one foot. He could stop playing with both feet. You don't see guys playing with both feet. I'm talking about hop. Come to a stop and take off again. If you take. If you. If you average up the yards that he lost, he might have rushed for 20,000 yards. Just. He rushed for 15,000. Let that sink in. He rushed for 15,000 yards in 10 seasons.
- [41:39]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's crazy.
- [41:42]
Shannon Sharpe
No, I don't want to. I couldn't imagine Barry behind the Cowboys offensive line that Emmett ran behind. I couldn't imagine him behind the offensive line that they got right now. No, it wouldn't be fair. How you gonna put it behind that? Oh, y'all. So y'all want to see the man rush for 2,000 yards like four or five times, huh? It'd be like, man, come on, man, y'all gotta. You gotta understand, like I said, he rushing behind that yacht. Behind that. But he was sensational. It is absolutely. The MVP is a two man race. And I think whomever wins this race, if you make me bet money, that means something to me. I would say Josh, but this would probably be the closest MVP vote that I can remember with it. Yeah. It's going to be probably somewhere between 5 and 10 votes to separate them. That's how close it's going to be. Right?
- [42:44]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You think these last two games matter? These last two games are very important.
- [42:47]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah.
- [42:48]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
On how well they play.
- [42:50]
Shannon Sharpe
Listen, the Ravens got. The Ravens got. The Ravens got the Texans and who else? They got the Browns. They got Detect. They got Texas on Christmas right in Houston. And then they got the Browns in. In home. At home.
- [43:13]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And what about the Bills?
- [43:14]
Shannon Sharpe
But the Bills got. The Bills got. I think they got the jets and the Patriots twice.
- [43:19]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, I mean, listen, I know the Patriots aren't that.
- [43:26]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah. They got the Patriots tomorrow. They got the Patriots tomorrow.
- [43:28]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right?
- [43:29]
Shannon Sharpe
Then they got the jets in Buffalo and then they got the Patriots again.
- [43:32]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I think. You know, the funny thing about it is I know the jets aren't playing that well, the Patriots aren't playing that well, but these are divisional Games and uncle. You know how divisional games go.
- [43:41]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [43:41]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You know how they go. Ain't no telling what's going to happen because of the familiarity with the team you're playing. Understanding their tendencies, it might, it might go in the opposing favor. But I would love to see Josh Allen have a good game. As far as a three time mvp, I would love to see Lamar Jackson win it as well. But what Josh Allen is doing, being able to put on that cape to lose some of the things around him, to be given the keys to that team, to be given the keys to that organization and uplifting that team without superstars surrounding him.
- [44:13]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [44:14]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Is awesome. And I don't think people understand how difficult it is to be able to do what Josh Allen is doing without someone you can actually count on. Close your eyes and know, you know what? I can go to him and know he's gonna be there for me every time. It's been a collective as a group.
- [44:29]
Shannon Sharpe
Collectively, they've all, yeah, it's Holloway, it's Shakira, it's those two tight ends. It's Dolph, it's Kincaid, it's Knotts. James Cook has done a great job of running the football. He's done a great job of catching it out of the football. But everything starts to stop with that big, that, that big quarterback. I think he's number 17, right?
- [44:46]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. 17.
- [44:47]
Shannon Sharpe
Isn't that Josh Allen's number?
- [44:48]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, 17.
- [44:49]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. It starts and stop with him and you find out where you like. And the thing is, Ocho, third and one, third and two. You know you're gonna get them quarterback power. He gonna run over most people if it's not a defensive tackle. Yeah. Oh, he running his ass over linebacker. You not finna stop him. He done got ahead of Steve.
- [45:09]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, listen, you have to think about it now. When you think about Josh Allen, his size, he basically is a linebacker. He's the same size today. He a defensive linebacker, you know, today he's much smaller. Yeah, much smaller. You know, sideline to sideline, being able to cover. We they. Listen, the linebackers today don't look like Ray Lewis. They don't look like Brian Erlacher. So it's different. The damn quarterbacks are the same.
- [45:31]
Shannon Sharpe
You gotta be able to cover. You gotta be in space now, man.
- [45:33]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, yeah, yeah. You gotta be able to move.
- [45:39]
Shannon Sharpe
So that's gonna be very interesting. But the Ravens clinch a playoff spot. I think that's John Harbaugh. Six times in the last seven years. We know what Harbs is, but they got Ocho at some point in time. They gotta put it together now.
- [45:50]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes, sir.
- [45:51]
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, they, they. I mean, Lamar Jackson keep put. Having MVP seasons, you get Derrick Henry to take some of the pressure off him. You gotta go far. Yeah. It's not good enough to get to the AFC championship game again. You gotta go far. You gotta go far.
- [46:04]
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hi everyone.
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Shannon Sharpe
That's right.
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Shannon Sharpe
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- [49:06]
Shannon Sharpe
The number five Texas Longhorn defeat the number 12 Clemson Tigers 3824. Sark said he had a simple message for his offensive line and running backs after Texas SEC title game lost to Georgia Run to win. Yeah, Texas ran the ball just 60 combined yards in two games against Georgia today. The Longhorns ran for a season high 292 yards. They'll now face the Arizona State Wild Sun Devil. Excuse me, that Wild Sun Devils on January 1 Oo.
- [49:35]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Hey, that looked good. That was the difference in the game up front. Up front. The game is won in the trenches and Texas won that game up front. Clemson not being able to stop the run was their demise. Yeah, you can't compete. You can't get a team off the field unless you can stop the run. You gotta find a way to make it one dimensional. You got to. And they just couldn't do that.
- [49:57]
Shannon Sharpe
Good luck.
- [49:58]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, they just couldn't do that. And that is the reason why they lost the game. It was a good game. I'm not going to sit here and say there's no reason Clemson should have made it because obviously they. I mean they're in there.
- [50:09]
Shannon Sharpe
They won the conference. Yeah, they won the conference, but that was a weak conference.
- [50:13]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
See I didn't want to say that. I was going to leave that for you. I won't leave that.
- [50:16]
Shannon Sharpe
But it is. It's the truth. North Carolina, North Carolina State, Florida State. Come on bro. Wake Forest. Let's call it what it is. I mean it's a weak conference.
- [50:23]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, I left that for you. I gave you a layup. I want to see if you going to say it. I wasn't finna say it.
- [50:29]
Shannon Sharpe
Plumnik had. He was 26 and 43. 336, three touchdowns, one interception. They didn't run the ball well at all. They were 24 for 76 yards. Basically three yards of carry. Where you look at Quinn ewers. It was 17:24, 202, one touchdown, one interception. But they ran the ball. They had two runners. Blue 14 for 146, two touchdowns.
- [50:53]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hold on, Unc. My light done went out. Can you see me?
- [50:56]
Shannon Sharpe
Hell no, I can't see you with the light. What the hell you think I can see you without?
- [51:00]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hold on. I think they must got a little shortage in the room now.
- [51:06]
Shannon Sharpe
Seem like you gotta. You got a lot of shortage on melanin. You got too much going on. I see what y'all see, Chat. I see chain and teeth.
- [51:17]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
All right, hold on. This. This ain't the right. I wonder how. Okay, there we go. Okay, I'm back. I'm back. I'm back.
- [51:25]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah. Okay, there you go. They need to fit.
- [51:27]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Feel over here.
- [51:28]
Shannon Sharpe
Now when you got. They ran the ball 48 times for 292 yards, four touchdowns along of 77. But there are a lot of 22 yard long, 21 yard long, 11 yard long. And they were able to chew clock up.
- [51:44]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, and get. So it gives you no chance. They gave me no chance.
- [51:48]
Shannon Sharpe
And they took a pick six back. Clemson had a pick six, but he got called back Ocho for blocking by. You can't crack back.
- [51:56]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Nah.
- [51:57]
Shannon Sharpe
You know, back in the day, you used to live for the crack back.
- [52:00]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And clean somebody clean. Clean them clean out. Clean out.
- [52:04]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm trying to get. I'm trying to get his feet off the ground.
- [52:06]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, I mean, that's what.
- [52:07]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, that's what? That's what. Cause you know they gonna show it in the big meeting room on Wednesday.
- [52:12]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, you can't wait for that. You can't wait for that moment.
- [52:15]
Shannon Sharpe
Man.
- [52:17]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Listen, that's been out of the game long enough. You got to know Ukraine crack back.
- [52:21]
Shannon Sharpe
You can't crack back.
- [52:21]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Get in the way. Throw your hands up if any get in the way.
- [52:24]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, just throw your hands up. Yeah, get in the way. Yeah, they call it blindside block. You know, we call it crack back. Actually, they put that in rule. They put that Warren Sapp when he got Chad Clifton with a Green Bay packer, then he knocked him out. He broke his hip.
- [52:39]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Remember that?
- [52:39]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, hell yeah, I remember that. So they. They tried. Look, that's a very dangerous play, but you used to live for that play. Obviously they tried to make sure, you know, they tried to protect the players now. And. And actually it was high end wars that got Keith Rivers.
- [53:00]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ooh, we broken jaw. I remember the game, actually.
- [53:04]
Shannon Sharpe
They called it the highest ward rule.
- [53:05]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, I remember that game. Yeah. Remember that game?
- [53:08]
Shannon Sharpe
They call it the highest war, But. But they had to get. Because Hyde was. Oh, hey, he was getting air for the Ravens.
- [53:15]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
If you play, if. If you piss Hines off, he gonna smile. He gonna smile the whole game. You gonna see all 32, the whole game. But when that ball snap, your head better be on a swivel.
- [53:26]
Shannon Sharpe
You better. Oh, he gonna get you. That's one thing that he. The best blocking wide receiver ever created. And he took great pride. And not only could he block, I mean, he. Hey, I think he got. He caught like a thousand passes, Ocho.
- [53:39]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Heim was an integral. Integral part of that offense. Integral part of the office. You know, when you have to crack, what you call it, Crack, safety, replace or whatever, when the safety coming.
- [53:49]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [53:50]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Actually got to go in there and crack.
- [53:51]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. That the insert. Yeah, yeah.
- [53:53]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
All right, all right. Every. Every safety, your head. Your head is on the swivel, coming down in that full speed.
- [53:59]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, hey. When that went a. When highs had that, he had what we call four is force block. Yeah.
- [54:07]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes.
- [54:07]
Shannon Sharpe
Because you know the station. He's gonna rock and roll down.
- [54:09]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes, sir.
- [54:10]
Shannon Sharpe
So Hines is gonna push up, and then he gonna come in.
- [54:12]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [54:12]
Shannon Sharpe
And he gonna knock hell out that safety. Okay. Okay. You go running in that tip, but you ain't worried about nothing.
- [54:19]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [54:19]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
- [54:21]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Okay.
- [54:23]
Shannon Sharpe
High. Go knock your jock strap loose. Hey, hey. That's one thing about him. He was not afraid to get dirty. He absolutely was not. Guys love playing for him, playing alongside him, because you know you gonna get his max. Absolute best effort. Very unselfish player. They did a great job. Cause Hines was a. I think Hines came out as a quarterback at Georgia. Yeah.
- [54:47]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [54:48]
Shannon Sharpe
Well, no, he. He went. He went to Georgia. I mean, he played, but he was a quarterback in high school.
- [54:51]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He did.
- [54:52]
Shannon Sharpe
He plays a court. Yeah.
- [54:54]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I ain't know that. Okay, well, he definitely wasn't. He wouldn't. He wasn't gonna play.
- [54:59]
Shannon Sharpe
I had shaking the head like. Yeah, but he's all right, man. He was an unbelievable player. Very unbelievable. Very good, I think, for the Steelers, Ocho, to go back to that touch on that right quick. They gotta get pickets back. They gotta get somebody that has that ability to take the top off the coverage and can make tough, difficult catches. Yeah, yeah.
- [55:20]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And they make big plays. Listen, Calvin Austin. Is it Calvin Austin the third. Did I say that the right way?
- [55:24]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Calvin Austin.
- [55:25]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, boy. That boy Fast boy Skonic.
- [55:29]
Shannon Sharpe
Skoronic made some plays today for him. The guy that he used to be at the Rams. He's mainly a special teams maven. But hey, when you're down to your last couple. Hey, hey, son. Get out there. You can catch the ball.
- [55:39]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, next man up, huh? Yes, man up. But it's not the same as having Pickens out there who can not stress the field. But he makes it easier for your offense because there's somebody that the Ravens have to account for and double team, allowing everybody else to do what they need to do. But they need to find another. They need to find a way. They need to find a way to get Calvin Austin more touches putting them in positions to make plays with that kind of speed. They got to find a way. They got to find a way, man.
- [56:07]
Shannon Sharpe
Yep. Ocho, the Penn State Nittany Lions, the number six Penn State Nittany Lions run rough shot over the number 11. SMU. Mustang 38. 10.
- [56:19]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Can we blame the weather?
- [56:20]
Shannon Sharpe
SMU, huh?
- [56:21]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Can we blame the weather?
- [56:24]
Shannon Sharpe
No, they're just better team. They not. It could have been 70 and dry. It could have been. They could have been playing Hawaii. They could have played in Tahiti. They could have played in Bora Bora. It doesn't matter.
- [56:35]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, hey, so you think SMU playing at warm weather, you don't think it would have fake it? It would have been a better game from them based on what we saw.
- [56:42]
Shannon Sharpe
Maybe a better game. Okay.
- [56:43]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay.
- [56:43]
Shannon Sharpe
But I don't think they beat Penn State, right?
- [56:45]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No. No, no, no, no. Probably. No, no, no, no.
- [56:47]
Shannon Sharpe
SMU had four red zone trips. Penn State had two. Penn State got 14 points off their two red zone trips. SMU got three defensive touchdowns, Penn State had two, SMU had none. Nicholas Singleton and Kai Katron Allen. Penn state combined for 29 rushes and receptions, 195 yards with three touches. Ocho, it's hard to overcome one pick six, let alone two.
- [57:15]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No. Do you know how good your offense would have to be? You would have to have that 2019 LSU offensive team to be able to come back from a two pick game. You have to have some unbelievable firepower and a quarterback with elite decision making after turning the ball over twice. To be able to come back from something like that. It's important. It's important.
- [57:37]
Shannon Sharpe
And you better hope your defense is good because you've already spotted us 14.
- [57:41]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
14. Yeah.
- [57:42]
Shannon Sharpe
So your defense is going to have to get stops also, Ocho, because if I don't give you points for my possession, how do you. How do you. How do you score enough because you're already down? Let's just say for the sake of argument, you spot me 14, I kick the ball to you, you go get seven. Now I go down the field and I get seven. It's 20, is 21. I've still got a 14 point lead. So at some point in time, your defense is going to have to make stops or you're gonna have to do what their defense did to you. You're gonna have to score on their possessions.
- [58:09]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And you know what happened? This is the perfect scenario that you just named. Not only spotting them 14. What the hell happened to the goddamn Detroit Lions when they paid?
- [58:16]
Shannon Sharpe
Buffalo Spotted them 14.
- [58:19]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Spotted them 14. Then, then you had to do stuff, you had to panic. You have to do stuff like kicking onside with 12 minutes left to go in the game because you need that possession back to be able to get yourself back in the game.
- [58:30]
Shannon Sharpe
Yep. Penn State ran the ball 40 times for a buck 89. Three touchdowns. Alar, 13 pass attempts. No. 22 pass attempts, 13 completions, 127 yards. He's coming back and he should. Cause unless he want to be like a seventh or eighth round draft pick. Yeah, they don't have a no.
- [58:54]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, you gotta improve yourself.
- [58:56]
Shannon Sharpe
Definitely not ready to go to the NFL right now. So I think that's a very, very wise decision. But I tell you what this win does do. It quiets some of the natives at Penn State for James Franklin.
- [59:08]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right?
- [59:08]
Shannon Sharpe
He needed this one because boy, woo.
- [59:11]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They was on him.
- [59:12]
Shannon Sharpe
Can you imagine?
- [59:13]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They was on him.
- [59:14]
Shannon Sharpe
What?
- [59:15]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [59:15]
Shannon Sharpe
Because the thing is, Ocho, no matter how good, he can't find a way to beat Ohio State.
- [59:23]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [59:24]
Shannon Sharpe
He can be number one, he can be number two. It doesn't matter. And he hasn't found a way to win that game, Right? He hasn't found a way. I mean, you know, even when he had Saquon.
- [59:35]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Yeah.
- [59:36]
Shannon Sharpe
And they had an outstanding game. But then somehow they still ended up. They still ended up losing to Sam Darnold. But this was. Like I said, Ocho, look, and I'm not trying to be Debbie Downer. Cause I don't really care about. You know, I didn't go to any of these schools. But I don't think that the committee. I don't think fans like this. Now obviously, if I go to Penn State, I love it, right? If I go to Ohio State, I love it. I go to University of Texas or. Who did Indiana play last night? No, today, if I went to one of those schools, I love it.
- [60:10]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right?
- [60:10]
Shannon Sharpe
But Ocho, the fans that's watching at home that didn't attend those universities. I mean, the game, they want the games to be closed. They want the game to be interesting. There's nothing interesting about 3810. There's nothing interesting about 42 to 7:17. Excuse me. There was nothing interesting about that Notre Dame IU game because nobody thought. Right that IU had any chance of winning once they got down 14. Nobody thought that. Like I said, it might have been got interesting had Texas could have gotten that ball into the end zone on 4th and goal and make it a one score game. Can they get a stop and get the ball back and go down the field and score? But these games left a lot to be desired. Now it's going to be very interesting to see what type of game that we get in the semifinals. Yeah, but ugh, it left, it left a lot to be desired. And I just think the thing is like, and I think, look, you're dealing at these level of teams, Ocho. I mean, at some point in time, I think Penn State was a top five team. Some of these teams were top five. And you got to go in there to their building and you're going into their building and you're not familiar with them. Yeah, I can't remember, I can't recall in my lifetime the last time that Clemson has ever played Texas or SMU has played Penn State.
- [61:31]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, it's different.
- [61:33]
Shannon Sharpe
Indiana maybe. Indiana's played Notre Dame.
- [61:36]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. But these games, it's different.
- [61:41]
Shannon Sharpe
And Tennessee definitely not playing Ohio State unless it's in a bowl game.
- [61:45]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Nah.
- [61:46]
Shannon Sharpe
But yeah, these games left a lot to be desired and the committee. But like I said, ojo, I mean, where you gonna put them at? You can't put them on neutral site. They gotta go, they gotta go. So, you know, try to get a home game. Obviously I like to get a buy. That way I don't have to worry about it.
- [62:04]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, you gotta do it.
- [62:05]
Shannon Sharpe
And I think Georgia, Hell, Georgia, the Peach mode. No, I think the national championship is in the. Is in Atlanta. Where did Georgia play next week? Are they in Atlanta too?
- [62:17]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Probably, probably. Right, right.
- [62:19]
Shannon Sharpe
I think it's the Peach Boy. I think Georgia right now Georgia might. Oh, it's the quarterfinals. It's the quarterfinals next week, then the semifinals.
- [62:39]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay.
- [62:39]
Shannon Sharpe
The Sugar Bowl. Okay. Georgia go to New Orleans. Who did? Who did? Who's in what you call Peach Bowl? Okay, yeah, that have been. That, that kind of been kind a little bit unfair to have Georgia right back where they played the SEC championship game, which is an hour drive from where they actually played the whole game.
- [62:59]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That would make it a home game.
- [63:00]
Shannon Sharpe
Damn it definitely would have made it a home game. Lane Kiffin on game so far. Way to keep us on the edge of our seat committee. Riveting. Hey, Lane, you can't hate from outside the club. Yeah, bro. Hey, you tell me it's lame. I bet it's lame as f in there. Well, you not in there. You don't know. Yeah, I mean, I think Joel Clant had a clap back, said my former colleague at Fox. If your team played half as well as you tweet, you likely would have been in. Yeah, Eli. Yeah, but that's Lane. You already know. What Lane loves to talk.
- [63:43]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It's been him. It's been him. This is not new. This is part of his MO. It's part of his MO. This is the way he's always been. And they wasn't that bad now.
- [63:53]
Shannon Sharpe
No, but you can't lose to the game, the games they lost and then complain, bro. You lost the. Didn't they lose to Kentucky? Didn't they lose? They. They lost like some games that they. They absolutely shouldn't have lost.
- [64:04]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, they should have won. Yeah.
- [64:11]
Shannon Sharpe
Who did Ole Miss lose to? Yeah, you lost that. You lost Kentucky. You lost to Florida.
- [64:24]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Oh, and Florida was bad. Florida was bad.
- [64:27]
Shannon Sharpe
Florida was bad. LSU was bad.
- [64:28]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It was bad.
- [64:30]
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho. The number seven Irish, the Fighting Irish of Notre Dame took down Indiana 27 17. The MVP seemed to be a Notre Dame defensive coordinator Al Golden. He stepped. He was a step ahead of play caller Mike Shanahan. That his real name.
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- [67:52]
Shannon Sharpe
The Hoosiers drove to Notre Dame territory on four of their first five drives, but just got field goals from it. And you know, hey, when you play big boy football, you play for, you know, you try to win championships. You can't kick field goals. Yeah, field goals get you sent home championships. Touchdowns wins your championships.
- [68:09]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [68:10]
Shannon Sharpe
And that was really the difference in the ball game. But there was a stretch there. But I'm like Notre Dame, y'all can't. Y'all can't do anything. Nah. I mean, excuse me, iu. You can't do anything.
- [68:24]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And listen, I don't. They just didn't belong, Unc. They just didn't belong. Now, outside of who you played during the season. Of course you looked good then. But there's levels to everything. There's levels to competition. There's a reason, there's a reason for everything. You know, in boxing, there's a reason for weight classes. You know, you wasn't in your weight class, and that's no disrespect to them. You just weren't. You don't have a team, you don't have a team assembled that can compete with the type of teams you're playing like the Notre Dames. You just don't. That's just the way the landscape is. You know, the fact that you were able to make it and compete at that level and try to see where you are as a team, it's just different for a reason.
- [69:16]
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, they had Notre dame defense had 10 tackles for losses, three sacks. Hey, and I was concerned about Notre Dame because didn't they lose to Northern Illinois? They lost to some like, team that you would never think that would beat them.
- [69:36]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They should have won. They should have won.
- [69:38]
Shannon Sharpe
They lost a. Or Northern Illinois. No, I think they beat it. Yeah, they lost it for. Yeah, yeah. And I'm like, damn. And then, you know, I was like, bro, they about to start calling for Mike Freeman's job, but he turned it around. Yeah, I think he got a contract extension. I like him. I don't really know him that much, but I, I, I like his demeanor. I like his personality. I think he'd be like a guy I would really like to play for.
- [70:08]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He's a players coach.
- [70:10]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. But he gets, he gets into it. I mean, he's high fiving the guys. He's chest buffing the guys. He's, hey, he, he's like, he's a fiery type of guy.
- [70:18]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right?
- [70:18]
Shannon Sharpe
And I can see why guys go there. I can see why guys I couldn't got in. He'd have to go somewhere else for me to coach me because I ain't getting in the know today with my grades eight. No sense. Ain't no sense of me fooling nobody. Oh, I'm not getting in the Notre Dame with my grade. Yeah. And I don't want to be in a situation where I got to spend all my time in study hall. And I ain't gonna be. Hey, coach, I ain't gonna be able to make practice today. I gotta study for this exam, Coach. I ain't gonna be able to make practice today. Hey. Cause Coach David. Hey, y'all ain't dying on the academic scholarships now. No, y'all ain't Gonna be missing no damn practice talking about y'all got class.
- [70:51]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [70:51]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, Bill Davis. Hey, your last class need to be at 1 o'clock because we start breaking. We started practice at 3.
- [70:58]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You better be out there.
- [71:00]
Shannon Sharpe
What?
- [71:01]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, that's funny.
- [71:02]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, man, Bill. What? Hey, he said, hey, they pay. Hey, they pay for you. You got an academic scholarship, right? He said, I saw y'all grades. Ain't none of y'all got no academic scholarship. I was done at 12 o'clock because I need to get me an hour and a half nap, Ocho.
- [71:18]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, before you. Before you got practice, huh?
- [71:20]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah, because my class. I started my class at 8:00. 8:00 in the morning. I'm an early riser.
- [71:26]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, so. So, yeah, we the same. I'm an early riser.
- [71:29]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm an early rise. So I go 8 to 9, 9 to 10, 10 to 11, 11 to 12. I'm done for the day. Go eat now. I go. Go get my. Go eat lunch.
- [71:38]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [71:39]
Shannon Sharpe
Go back to the. Go get me a 90 minute nap. Get up, walk to practice. Coach wouldn't let us drive to practice, so we had to walk to practice, which is like a. Which is like a half a mile.
- [71:47]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, it ain't bad.
- [71:49]
Shannon Sharpe
And then we jump, then we catch. Because back then, they won't let you do it now. But people used to cut through the campus.
- [71:57]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [71:58]
Shannon Sharpe
To try to get to, you know, to try to get to the other side where they were going. And so, hell, we jump on the back of their truck, we get a ride up and then. Rest his. Rest his soul. Big Love. We had a offensive line. We call him Big Love. He jumped on the back of the truck, wasn't holding on. The guy took off and he fell. His fetish, Lord, he fell out of the truck, Ocho.
- [72:19]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He hurt himself.
- [72:21]
Shannon Sharpe
We heard ourselves laughing, man. You know, Ocho, you know, it's something like that. It don't matter. We laughing.
- [72:30]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. No matter what. Well, hold on now. We gonna check and make sure you're all right before we laugh now. Are you okay? Before we let this laugh out.
- [72:37]
Shannon Sharpe
He ain't hurt nothing.
- [72:38]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We see you move, and if we see you moving. Anyway.
- [72:43]
Shannon Sharpe
I already tell you, if you do something reckless, they're gonna need two ambulances. One cause you hurt, one cause I'm gonna crack my side laughing. So, hey, go ahead and call two of them. And then Coach Davis cut that out. So we couldn't jump on the back of the truck. We couldn't get a ride. Cause the guys Would always come through. They come in with pickup trucks and stuff like that, you know, work trucks. Hey, boys, y'all need a ride? Yes, sir. Hey, Boom, we jump on the back of the truck. All right.
- [73:04]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [73:05]
Shannon Sharpe
And he ruined it for everybody. But coach wouldn't let us drive. I mean, everybody didn't have no car. But coach wouldn't let us drive to practice. Now, the game, it used to be we had to walk to the game. I said, coach, I'm not gonna be able to walk to the game. I got this. Nice ride, coach. Come on now.
- [73:23]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, and you can't mess up your outfit, too. Now walk into the game.
- [73:27]
Shannon Sharpe
What outfit? Man, we ain't coming. Hey, bro, like, they be coming to the game now, Ocho. Yeah, we weren't coming to the game like that.
- [73:33]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, bro.
- [73:34]
Shannon Sharpe
We coming up with cut. Hell, nah. We coming off with great. Cause you know, back then, ojo, everybody wore grays, right? Yeah, we wear cut off T. We cut off T shirt. But ain't nobody dressing up.
- [73:44]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay, okay, okay, but what? Listen, listen. Game day. Game day. I mean, I know it wasn't. It wasn't prevalent when I was playing. Boy, I would say I actually have my dickies. My dickies crease.
- [74:01]
Shannon Sharpe
Bro. I ain't gonna lie, Ocho. I don't think. I don't think. I tried to have sex one time after the game and locked up. That was it for me. Yeah, that was it for me. I tried it one time.
- [74:12]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You can't. You gonna lock. You gonna cramp up?
- [74:14]
Shannon Sharpe
I did and I did. No more.
- [74:16]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, no. No, sir.
- [74:17]
Shannon Sharpe
That's it. So it wasn't no sense. So who was I dressing up for?
- [74:21]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh.
- [74:23]
Shannon Sharpe
First of all, ain't nobody gonna see me, Ocho, because where we go off the field and go. Go into the building, can't nobody see you.
- [74:30]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, you can't see us anyway. Yeah, you're right.
- [74:32]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. So no, that. So that was it. It wasn't. No, it wasn't no sense of me, you know, dressing up because what nobody gonna see, Right? You know, I had me on boutique, you know, so we just go chill.
- [74:42]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, oh, you had. You had some back then, huh?
- [74:44]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, okay, go get. You know, we get that chicken box. Get that three piece chicken box with that little truck driver steak. That honey bun. Yeah, and a Coca cola.
- [74:52]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What you know about the honey bun?
- [74:54]
Shannon Sharpe
But that's a truck driver's day.
- [74:55]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay, Okay, I like that.
- [74:58]
Shannon Sharpe
If you're a truck driver, you know about honey buns and vieno sausages. Yeah, if you don't know about nothing else.
- [75:04]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But I know, babe. What you know about putting that honey bun in the microwave for 12 seconds, though?
- [75:09]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, you like it nice and hot?
- [75:11]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, not. Not hot. Just a little warm.
- [75:13]
Shannon Sharpe
Lukewarm.
- [75:14]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Lukewarm. I feel like it just came out the oven or something. Boy, man, ain't nothing like your honey.
- [75:19]
Shannon Sharpe
Buns like $3 now.
- [75:20]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, man, who you telling? Hold on. I got. I got one more for you. Tell me, please tell me you know about the big Texas cinnamon roll.
- [75:28]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
- [75:30]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
In the purple. In the purple. In the purple.
- [75:31]
Shannon Sharpe
I don't want nothing but the center, though. I get the center. I pull the center out. I go to center bun.
- [75:40]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [75:40]
Shannon Sharpe
I get the center throw the rest of the way.
- [75:42]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, yeah. Oh, man. Listen, man, you take that, Ocho.
- [75:44]
Shannon Sharpe
I went to the store and I was like, oh, man, they got these Sunbeam honey buns, man. Them 339, man, I put that thing back, I give me a whole pound cake for $8.
- [75:55]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Expensive. Expensive. While we're speaking of snacks, there's something else I used to love growing up. Recipes to my mama. Man, My mama used to always get from Publix. Obviously, she was living in LA at the time when I was going to Santa Monica College. And one of the things that I love that she got from Ralph's or Vons at the time was lemon crunch cake. I don't know if you ever had the intamins. The Intamins? Lemon crunch cake.
- [76:19]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I know about it. In the country? Yeah, absolutely.
- [76:20]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, my goodness, man, I just had.
- [76:24]
Shannon Sharpe
An eight pack of those chocolate donuts. Ojo. What? You know, chocolate donuts, man, them with chocolate donuts. I had them.
- [76:33]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I haven't had that lemon crunch cake since my mama passed away, man. I wish I could find it because they. You know, in Miami in Publix, they don't sell lemon crunch cake. It's something. It's like pound cake. How you say? Intamins? Intamins.
- [76:46]
Shannon Sharpe
Entmans.
- [76:47]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. I don't see the lemon crunch cake no more like they did back in. Back in the early 2000s. Man, I could find it again.
- [76:54]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, but that was. Like I said. I was like. I remember I used to. You get honey buns four for a dollar. Yeah. I was like. And I understand things have cost more now, but not. No how. You go from a quarter to three and a quarter.
- [77:08]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You gotta think the ice cream truck. Y'all had the ice cream truck. Where you from?
- [77:12]
Shannon Sharpe
Ice cream truck coming in no country.
- [77:14]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay, so I'm thinking in the city where I'm from in Liberty City, obviously, the ice cream truck donuts was a quarter. The honey buns were 50 cent. And we got quarter juice. You know the quarter juice?
- [77:24]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, the jug y'all called them.
- [77:26]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Quarter juice was a quarter.
- [77:27]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [77:28]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And jungle juice is called fruit punch. A little jungle juice.
- [77:32]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I know. 25 gallon jungle juice.
- [77:34]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It was 50 cent fruit punch.
- [77:35]
Shannon Sharpe
And I love Tahitian treat. Do they still make that?
- [77:38]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Tahitian?
- [77:39]
Shannon Sharpe
Anybody know about Tahitian treat?
- [77:43]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I ain't never heard of that.
- [77:44]
Shannon Sharpe
It's a white in red can and it got like a palm tree on it. Google it. Tahitian treat.
- [77:50]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Tahitian.
- [77:53]
Shannon Sharpe
My brother probably my brother noticed. I should eat, sleep bad as you can hit the roof. Hey, man, if I call that joker because he gonna think something wrong. Yeah, oh, yeah. Oh, oh, that he lose his mind. Oh, somebody's like, yeah, I know about Tahitian treat. Oh, yeah. But man, them honey buns, four honey buns, a quarter, a dollar. There was a 400 bun for a dollar. And you get soda back then sodas was also a can soda just like it is now. Instead of $2, it was a quarter.
- [78:31]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, so it was.
- [78:33]
Shannon Sharpe
But you know how much you stuff you could get for $2 back in the day?
- [78:36]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, it was 50 cent. It was. It was 50 cent for me.
- [78:39]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I remember when the movies, the big movies was a dollar, not no dollar movie. You know, the movie that's done been out the theater for like two months, three months. You go to those for a dollar. The actual movie cost a dollar.
- [78:52]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's crazy.
- [78:53]
Shannon Sharpe
That'll go way back. Like.
- [78:55]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
My, my, my, my. How times have changed. Boy.
- [78:58]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I wonder how much. How much a movie cost. No, I went to the movie in LA. Movie like $22.
- [79:04]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, wait, wait a minute. I just. I just saw at Magic Johnson Theater. I saw Gladiator on the first night or the first day it came out?
- [79:11]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I don't remember how much.
- [79:12]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I don't remember. I don't remember how much it was, but it was, it was. The price ain't the same. It definitely ain't the same as it was as was. As it was back in the day.
- [79:20]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, hell no. Maybe it's because I went to ip Cause you know, I pick. Got the reclining chairs. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You can get the. They used to give you warm popcorn for free, right? Now they charge you for the popcorn to come around. But you know, you get food out your. You get like Burger. You can get pizza, chicken tenders like that. So maybe it costs a little more now, but what's a regular movie? Y'all call. What's a regular movie cost? How about your regular movie called, like you go to AMC or something like that?
- [79:45]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Somebody's 12, $14 a person. Somebody said 47.
- [79:54]
Shannon Sharpe
47. 47 for Wicked. You better took three people, four people with you.
- [80:02]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
$47 for one person. Somebody said, popcorn. Hey, somebody say popcorn at the theater costs $475.
- [80:12]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, they. Oh, they get you. Well, you better eat a belly full, because if you don't, hey, they get your a. Because they got you in there now. But y'all don't know. I. I can't tell nobody, but I used to take my own Twizzlers in there. Y'all have been hitting me over here, huh?
- [80:29]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
How? Oh, you had it in your pocket.
- [80:31]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah.
- [80:33]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I've seen stories about. About people, especially women, bringing.
- [80:37]
Shannon Sharpe
Or put them in the purse and put them in the purses because they started checking it.
- [80:40]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They own everything. Yeah, yeah.
- [80:42]
Shannon Sharpe
Come on, man. I mean, $7 for Twizzlers when you can go to. You can go to CVS, right, and get. Get the five pound bag for $3.
- [80:51]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Same thing. Yeah, most definitely.
- [80:52]
Shannon Sharpe
Y'all selling ones with like 10 looks. Oh, no, I ain't got it like that.
- [80:56]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's alcohol to the stove and getting your alcohol in the store as opposed to buying the same goddamn alcohol in the club. Now, I don't frequent the club. I don't go to the club, but I understand the markup. And you willingly pay for it. You willingly pay for the markup in the club?
- [81:12]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, you. It's triple. Whatever. Whatever. Whatever. I mean, yeah, it's triple.
- [81:17]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [81:17]
Shannon Sharpe
I mean. Cause a bottle probably gonna cost you like 300. 300 a bottle.
- [81:21]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Yeah.
- [81:22]
Shannon Sharpe
But not the volume.
- [81:29]
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