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Travis Hunter
Right?
Shannon Sharpe
Go ahead.
Travis Hunter
But let's listen. That little set, that little sweatsuit set, I don't know if that's white or cream. And, you know, we got the black set with the sweats and the hoodie.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Travis Hunter
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Shannon Sharpe
Well, just so you know, Ocho, I don't know if you thought that maybe I have some inside knowledge that you don't. I don't. This was the first time that I saw it when it popped up on my. Like, what the hell is that? Oh, yeah.
Travis Hunter
Okay, okay, okay.
Shannon Sharpe
I thought I had no idea. As told me last night, stuff was dropping. Okay. But I didn't know what was actually dropping.
Travis Hunter
Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
But I. But like you, I like. I like what I'm seeing.
Travis Hunter
Hey, who you telling?
Shannon Sharpe
So, yeah, I desire to. Austin is doing an unbelievable job. Hey, I don't so shout out to you, Austin. Appreciate that, bro. Quantities are limited, Ocho, so make sure you grab yours while supplies last. We do have beanies, koozies and mugs.
Travis Hunter
Wow, Koozie.
Shannon Sharpe
Great, Ocho.
Travis Hunter
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know.
Travis Hunter
Talk to me now. Talk to me. Take your time.
Shannon Sharpe
There must be, there must be like a million cats in Kansas City. Ain't no way a team can be this lucky. Oh, no, ain't no way a team could be this luck, Ocho. Hey, I played 14 years old, right? I ain't never had this look this much luck right. In 14 years, let alone one season. So the Chiefs escaped black another Black Friday game with the win over the Raiders. 19:17. The Miss Time snap by Las Vegas rookie center Jackson Powers Johnson with just seconds left denied the Raiders an opportunity to kick a field goal. A potential game winning field goal. Yeah, Ocho, he clapped his hand, but what he did, he paused because he saw the receivers weren't set. But that's not what the left, the guard, the right guard, that's looking back at it, he claps his hand, right? The guard, hey. The guard flashes. Yeah, the center don't know that you fall. He doesn't know anything about that. He's trusting you and he's trusting his guard. The guard wipes the hand down. That lets the center know the quarterback is ready for the ball. Oh yeah, he snapped it. A Connell is looking outside like, damn. Did not say. Ball hits him in the chest, gets kicked and the Chiefs pounce on it and they win the game. You remember a couple of weeks ago against the Broncos, Broncos potential kick.
Travis Hunter
They blocked the kick.
Shannon Sharpe
They block the kick. Hey, go ahead.
Travis Hunter
I don't. You know what the funny thing about it is? And when you say you don't know if it's luck, this is something that's been going on for the Chiefs like the past three years. If you understand now, if you pay attention. I don't know, I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I don't know if I don't want to sit here and say the ref is on on their side. But if luck has anything to do with anything, they are the team that are being blessed by the football gods to be on the receiving end of it game after game after game after game after game. Every time for some reason, everything seems to go in their favor. Now I'm not saying, I'm not saying the refs on their side, but somebody has favor for the Chiefs in some of these very, very close games. And they always, they listen the game again, once again Boring from quarter one to quarter three. But lo and behold, the fourth quarter gets here and everything gets exciting.
Shannon Sharpe
It does. Ocho. I think the thing is that if Patrick Mahomes was doing this, it's like defensively, they block a kick, the center snaps the ball and the quarterback isn't ready, hits him in the chest. And because we've seen guys, we saw LaMar Jackson get one, he bobbled it. He reached down with one hand, pick it up, scramble and throw the touchdown. Yeah, this ball hits him in the chest and Cam's one way. And the Chiefs jump on it and the game ends.
Travis Hunter
Everything seems to go their way. I'm not sure what it is. I don't know why.
Shannon Sharpe
And you look at it a. No. Connor. 23 of 35, 342 touchdowns. They ran the ball 25 times, 116 yards. So they run into. They ran the ball for four and a half yards of carry. They did. They made. They made one mistake. And when they made the mistake. That's why we always say, ooh, mistakes. Turnovers aren't all equal. If you make that mistake in the first quarter, you still have three and a half quarters to overcome that. You make that mistake at that point in the game, it's over.
Travis Hunter
It's over.
Shannon Sharpe
There is no coming back. You have no timeouts. There's only 20 seconds on the clock. So even if you do have. I don't. You would have to have all three of your timeouts and to hope that, you know, you can force a punt and get the ball back with what, 15 seconds on the clock, maybe 10 seconds.
Travis Hunter
Can't do nothing with that.
Shannon Sharpe
You're not going to be able to do anything with that. But the Chiefs. And I thought, again, I say, man, AP about to. Hey, about to get. Make sure he get another season because seemingly he can only beat the Chiefs. And he was about to pull it off again. Oh, Joe. He's about to reach into the bag and pull out another one. Hey. Damn. Black Friday shopping. Yeah, I'm going. I'm going. Chief Shopping.
Travis Hunter
Right. It's something about not only. I don't want to say Black Friday. Anytime you play a divisional opponent and you know, well, you know, yeah, Chiefs, you know, they know each other. Whether you know your tendencies, you know, what you like to do on down and distance, obviously you're going to have some. Some. I call it salad dressing or some different plays, you know, a twinkle here, a twist there. But most of the time everything is really the same. And you know, it's used to it I mean the Raiders defense is used to it. The coaches are used to it. And that's why these games are so close when it comes to the, you know, the playing division opponents. But the Rams, the damn Chiefs this year really haven't been the Chiefs of old anyway, Unc. They not blowing people out. They not up 35, 40 a game like that offense used to do that.
Shannon Sharpe
We'Re used to seeing. And even in the years past, even when they lost Tyreek, they were still more consistent than what they've been over the last couple of years. Now they did have some costly drops. They had a key third down drop on third down by D Hop. Travis is still trying to like he's pressing and that's what that is. Ocho. When you don't get the ball, when you're not putting up the numbers that you want to. You want to make every play right. You he wants to. Hey, he wants to turn and go, go. Yeah. Hey, you taking your eyes off the ball and it's a drop and that's really hurting them because now instead of being maybe second and five or third and five, now the second and 10 is third and 10 and. But the biggest thing is their offensive line, Ocho. They can't protect it.
Travis Hunter
Hold on. Left tackle and right tackle. I'm not sure who they are or where they're. Where they're from. There needs to be better play in that area if you're serious about going further, you know, and then competing for that chip. You got to think the teams you're going to play coming up, especially in the playoffs, it's a bunch. It's a bunch of Matt Crosby's not literally Matt Crawby. I'm just saying those type of players that that caliber defensive end, maybe not him, but just as good. And that's across the board. Uncle. Once you get to the playoffs, well, you got eating nothing but a bunch of animals.
Shannon Sharpe
But the quarterbacks every quarterback needs gonna potentially place is better than Aiden O'Connell. Most of these guys with the exception of Brock Bowers, right? That Brock Bowers. We're gonna talk about him, Ocho. He. I'm not so sure. He not he. He a top five tight end and I'm not so sure he 2, 3, 4, 5 either. I'm just saying. Hey, he beating. He beating all pro corners.
Travis Hunter
Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
He ain't just beating up on linebackers. He ain't just beating up on safety. Send me your best.
Travis Hunter
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
And let me show you and I and I'm gonna put him to the test. But we'll talk about him in a minute, Ojo.
Travis Hunter
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
I. What concerns me about the Chiefs is that still their red zone offense and their inability to consistently protect Patrick Mahomes. Because here's the thing. When you keep playing these one possession games, now that one possession game, come playoff time, and it goes the other way, what happens? Ocho, you're going home.
Travis Hunter
Going home?
Shannon Sharpe
You going home. You play with fire because you keep leaving these teams in there. You had a 16 to 3. You didn't score the touchdown.
Travis Hunter
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
You've got to put teams away. You've got to put separation between you and these teams, or you asking for trouble late in the ball game. Right. And they don't have. Oh, it's like worthy, bro. That's cover zero. Once you release inside, get started to get back wide. So Patrick Mahomes, he's throwing the ball to the middle. He's not throwing you to the corner. But that's cover zero. That's something that you know. Hey, Patrick, you and Andy, y'all gonna have to have a conversation with him. Yeah. Son, if they let you inside, widen it up, because I'm gonna throw you off the field because there's a chance. Hey, what if we had to go on the other side? Ocho, now you're running. You. You. Y'all gonna intersect at the point, right? No. If there's nobody in the middle of the field, Trav, once you go down, so once you get around the guy, you can't go to bend it to the middle. They up, the field is zero. There's no one there. Why would you run that?
Travis Hunter
Yeah, it's.
Shannon Sharpe
It's just simple. John and I have a simple philosophy. Yes. He said. He said t. If they come with the bomb, wherever you release, stay there.
Travis Hunter
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
If I release wide, O, I stay there. Once I got outside, I'm going straight in the field. I'm not bending it. I'm gonna let him bend me with the ball.
Travis Hunter
Oh, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Because once he release it, Ocho, it ain't no. He could like. Okay, I'm gonna steer it over here. Once he release it, it's gone.
Travis Hunter
Yeah. People have to understand.
Shannon Sharpe
I can move. You can bend. O you release outside, you see the ball over there, you see like a baseball. Go catch it.
Travis Hunter
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Thank you. Thank you. But I'm surprised. I'm surprised that at this juncture with the relationship that Trav and my homeboy have, that got away from them.
Travis Hunter
Yeah. I think.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know. I don't. I really don't know. Why would Trav try to bend it like that? I would have just kept it straight up the field. I mean, that's what I would have done.
Travis Hunter
I think between Travis quarterback and Mahomes, they've been off script for so long.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah.
Travis Hunter
You know that. For so long that this is one of the few times that we seen them off, you know, and I don't know, just for some, something is off with the Chiefs and it's been off with them all season long. Something to offer them offseason alone. But for some reason, in the most opportune times, pass from home does always come through. But as you get. As you get to playing better teams, especially once you get to the playoffs, you're not going to be able to get away with most of this. And if you do get away with most of this, you know what? The people in the people in stripes gonna have to help you.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Travis Hunter
And I listen, I hate to say that, but people in stripes are going, they're going to have to help you. And they. You know what? I would like to think they bailed them out of some games. Many of times.
Shannon Sharpe
I look at it like. But see, here's the thing. It's like people say, well, they got bailed out against Philly Bradford IV told you he held a guy. So you. You the guy told you. Yeah, I held him. I was beat.
Travis Hunter
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
Because what happened, juju was about to option away from him. He grabbed him.
Travis Hunter
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
So you don't want him to throw a flag in that situation, even though it will warrant it. A penalty. We saw against Kansas City, the guy ran up his back. That was a penalty. So you don't want to call it because, man, how can you call a foul in that situation? Easy. It's a penalty.
Travis Hunter
I passed an affair. The Bengals pass interference.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Travis Hunter
Ye.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Oh, so you guys ran up his back.
Travis Hunter
Yeah, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, so that's what I. I got confused in basketball. Well, you don't. You know, you gotta swallow your whistle there. Why. So let me ask you a question. If he had done that in the first quarter, is it a flag? Right. Yeah, but not. So we ain't gonna call it because your teeth. So let me ask you a question. If we flipped it and the Kansas City guy had tugged the Eagles guy and they were down, are you okay with them swallowing the whistle there?
Travis Hunter
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
No, you're not. If that's Kansas City and excuse me, if that's Cincinnati and one of the Bengals players and one of the Chiefs players run up the Bengals players back. You okay with them now? No, of course not. All I'm saying is, Ocho is, I get it at the time of the game, but a penalty is a penalty. If you look at the rule book, it doesn't say, well, if it's late in the ball game, don't throw a flag. If, if you jump off sides. Ocho, if you jump off sides with a minute to go in the game, they're going to throw a flag. Yeah, go ahead.
Travis Hunter
You know, the funny thing about it is when you watch the game of football, as much as you know, you know you can throw a flag on every single play. Huh? Yes, especially, you know, especially in interior with them boys battling, battling, going, going out with it. And that's the funny thing when it comes to, when throwing flags, don't allow the referee. I don't want the referee to determine the outcome of a game.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't.
Travis Hunter
Yeah, that's a good one.
Shannon Sharpe
Making a 14 point lead with a minute to go.
Travis Hunter
There you go. Yeah, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Because if it's a field, if it's a one point game or field goal game or you need to touch the team, either touch down the beat, you now you open your subjected yourself. Yeah, because here's the thing, Ocho, think about what Bradford did to penalty. If he wide open, all they gotta see is juju jersey tub, the back judge looking. They got a side judge looking.
Travis Hunter
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
How they miss it. The same thing when the Bengals got ran up his back. There's the back judge, there's the side judge. If. Yeah, you can hold it in the interior line, but it's a lot more confined. Don't Joe. Right now. Sometimes you have the referee that's looking, he's looking at the quarterback. Then you have the umpire and he's watching. Okay, did anybody hold, did anybody chop block anybody? Illegal use of the hand. But you have to be scanning. I mean you got to be like, okay, ball, snap. Okay, let me make sure, make sure that nobody jump off nobody, illegal procedure, anything like that.
Travis Hunter
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
So I gotta watch for a lot of stuff. But when you in the open field, Ocho, it's like, that's why a lot of times people commit robberies at night. It's dark, it's easy to get away with. It's hard to be seen, Ocho. So now I ain't really trying to rob nothing broad daylight. Right. I'm not trying to rob anything anyway. But I'm just saying when you open in the open field, it's just you and the Receiver. Yeah, they can see that a little bit more. And so you have to be careful of that. But I'm not one of these guys. Oh, swallow your whistle. No, you pass it. So if that's the case, no joke, I'm just gonna wait till late in the ball game and I'm gonna hold an issue.
Travis Hunter
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm gonna file the issue out of you because. Hey, I know. You're gonna hold. You're not gonna call it. No, it doesn't operate like that.
Travis Hunter
You know, you can't. You can't be belligerent with the goddamn holding call or pass interference, whether it be offensive or defensive. I just think, to me, in certain situations, referees. Referees need to hold their whistle so they don't determine the outcome of a game. Mistakes will happen. Now, if it's. If it's blatant, a blatant hole where you disrupt the timing of a play or you impede a receiver trying to, you know, get to a ball, you.
Shannon Sharpe
Know, like Bradford did. Juju.
Travis Hunter
Yeah, like. Like that. That's blatant. Come on. That's blatant.
Shannon Sharpe
Your guy. I don't know who your guy was that ran up the back, that read on the back of Kansas City.
Travis Hunter
Now, that's. That was a little iffy. That was a little iffy.
Shannon Sharpe
Stop that.
Travis Hunter
Hold on. Listen to me.
Shannon Sharpe
He done jumped over the top of it, the guy trying to catch the ball like this.
Travis Hunter
Yeah, he. Listen, and just the fact that the Bengals player, in that instance, has a right for the ball as well. He has a right for your. As a right for the ball as well. So.
Shannon Sharpe
But you can't go through the guy to get the ball. You have a right. Like, if we. Ocho. Let's just say, for the sake of argument, if I'm coming like you coming like this here, and I'm coming from the side, and I do like this here, and our bodies make contact.
Travis Hunter
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes. But I can't go through you. To have. To try to try to have an opportunity, the same ability to get to the ball as you. I can't go through you.
Travis Hunter
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, and so that's what we always say. Hey, son, get big.
Travis Hunter
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Box his ass. Hey, make it. If you gonna make a play. Come through me. Yeah, that's what you do. You see the ball under thrown, the DB just running. What you do. Stop. Let him run up your back. Yep. But, yeah, well, hey, ref, I gotta. I got it right to the ball, too. Yeah, but you can't run over your back to get it. That's the tricks of the trade. But look, the Raiders had them dead to right. The Raiders had them dead to right. O'Connell had gotten hot. I was surprised that the Chiefs didn't go for it on fourth down considering the defense had given up two touchdowns. I'm talking about boom, boom, boom. I mean, the Raiders were methodically going down the field. O'Connell had gotten to the rhythm. Brock Bowers would lighten people up. Jacoby Miles was playing really well. Tucker had just got the 80, the 58 yard touchdown.
Travis Hunter
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
I was surprised. And if you see an OJO teams now, we saw last week, what did Carolina do? We saw the week before what the Buffalo do. And I said this, what happens when that defense is a light south? Now you go to mess around. Baltimore D offense is better than the Raiders. Buffalo's offense is better than the Raiders. There are a lot of teams that offense is better than the Raiders.
Travis Hunter
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
If this defense doesn't play like it played from week five of 2022 all the way through and then the first part of this season.
Travis Hunter
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
Then what happens? Considering we've seen this offense really haven't get it. Haven't gotten it together this entire season. Don't show.
Travis Hunter
You know it.
Shannon Sharpe
You're asking for trouble.
Travis Hunter
Yeah. You know, it's funny, the fact that you just said that. Think about this. The offense hasn't gotten it together all this season, right? Patrick Mahal, Patrick Mahomes hasn't played as well as we'd like him to, except in actual specific times when they need him.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Travis Hunter
What happens when they do. What if they do get it together, the playoff time?
Shannon Sharpe
What if they get it together?
Travis Hunter
What if they finally decide all of a sudden, you know what, it's playoff time. We finna play these last four games and take it to the chip in New Orleans and take it on home. What if they. What if they play impossible?
Shannon Sharpe
You know what's happening? Because the pressure is getting to Mahomes. He doesn't feel comfortable setting his feet and he's missing throws that he would normally make.
Travis Hunter
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
You see how he got up and slammed the ball, say, hey, what y'all gonna do? Y'all would just let the left tackle just get beat the whole game or y'all gonna give me any opportunity to throw this football? Because you got Crosby on one side and they put the guy on the other side and it's like his interior, Humphrey, Tooney and Smith, they got to be sensational because every time the DN are forcing him to step up.
Travis Hunter
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
And if you notice what's he doing? Every time he steps up, he's having to jump to throw the ball because he's got to get it over the.
Travis Hunter
Guy in the middle, guy in his face. Every time. Yes, every time he's under the door.
Shannon Sharpe
That's what concerns me the most, is that if a defense doesn't get back to what they were because the offensive line, the tackle, they're not the offensive line, mainly the entire line is. The tackles are so porous. Boy, Ocho, you boy, you asking, you asking for it, bro.
Travis Hunter
Yeah, they don't. They don't.
Shannon Sharpe
And I just hate. Because I understand. We understand the finality of a one game. Of a one game. One game. It ain't no. It best two out of three. It ain't no four out of seven. Like basketball. Like basketball and baseball. The difference. There's nothing like a game seven. Everybody said there's nothing like a game seven in hockey or game seven in basketball. Game seven in baseball. Right. Every game in the playoffs in the NFL is a Game 7. That's all we play are game sevens. There is no oh, oh, we got them figured out. We know what to do. We'll make a few adjustments. Well, you better make it next year in OTAs. That's the only time that it's gonna matter. You gotta. Every game is a game 7 gotta.
Travis Hunter
Be your best that day.
Shannon Sharpe
You do.
Travis Hunter
No if, ands or busted body. Because if you're not, we'll see you in Cancun.
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Shannon Sharpe
Ocho Are the Chiefs the worst 111 team that you've seen?
Travis Hunter
Oh man. Are the Chiefs the worst 111 team that we've seen? I say yes. I say yes. But it's one thing about reaching the Super Bowl. It's one thing about reaching the playoffs. You know what? It's 50% skill, coaching and having the players and it's 50% luck. And luck has been on their side. Luck has been on that side. On the opposing side of that 50% is also having Paxton Mahomes at the Hound where in some situations he's been the reason why you're winning those games because he was.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh for sure.
Travis Hunter
Because it's his decision making in the most important times in the games. You know, you put another quarterback back there. I don't think this, I don't. I don't think outside of the games ending with block field goals or field goals attempt to win a game. I don't think that their record is still the same if there's a different quarterback back there.
Shannon Sharpe
No, I think, and also to echo what you just said, Ocho is that he's great when he has to be great. You look at that Philly game in the second half, they're down they go. Touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, field goal. If he at any point in time he doesn't score, they're not beating Philly.
Travis Hunter
They lose a game. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
If you look at San Francisco, San Francisco kicks the field goal. Now that was dumb on San Francisco. I don't know why they would take the ball in a situation of why they took the ball, right? But it's like, oh, we just figured, no, bro, it doesn't work like that, right? So now you let the opposing team see what you. What they need. They going for it on fourth down. You just gave them an extra down. Every. What you call every possession, Ocho. So now it ain't no third down. There's no such thing as a third down because everything is fourth down. Because I'm going for it, Ocho. I'm going for. Because I know I need to. And there ain't no choice, right? I got no choice, but you let me see what I needed. But when he has to be great.
Travis Hunter
He'S great every time.
Shannon Sharpe
When they. And but Ocho, another five sacks from the Raiders. They got five last week against, against Carolina. And look, Carolina is playing better. But Carolina ain't gonna be nowhere near the playoffs, Ocho. Yeah, and think about it. And they got a big drop. They got a. Caught a break. They got a big drop from X, Ocho. I hate saying the worst 11 and one team. That's like saying, man, that joker there, the broken billionaire I ever seen. I mean, that sound. That really does sound oxymoronic. I mean, all the dude is a billionaire. How. How is somebody a broke billionaire, right? I mean, how is somebody bad at 11 and 1? I mean, you might be, you know, you'll get you 500 or you're slightly above, but they've only lost one game.
Travis Hunter
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
And they're trying to do something that's unprecedented. So I hate to say that, but, boy, man, I'm just watching them. I'm like. And I just. I, I watch very. I'm like, how y'all winning these games? Yeah, the math. Math. And so especially, look, the defense still just held him tonight to 17 points. But if you look at Buffalo, they gave up 30 to Buffalo. That was the first time they had given up that many points in almost a year and a half. They gave up 30. Didn't they give up 30 plus to Carolina? And that's what's concerning. If the defense was continually holding people down, I was like, okay, but what happened happens when the levee bust, when all the water comes spewing out, can those tackles hold up and give Patrick Mahomes the time that he needs? That's what they're going to end up having. Like I said, if Trent Williams becomes available, they should make Trent Williams the highest paid left tackle again in football. Now, you might not get three in a row, but you damn sure be favored to go get Patrick Mahomes. Number four. Because if you got a left tackle now, I. Hey, I ain't worried about T Dub. Yeah. Hey, I'm gonna slide the protection to the right. Hey, Dub, you got it. Don't give that audio, Dub. You got it. And not only can he pass block, he a hell. Hey, he nasty on the run. He a hell of a run block.
Travis Hunter
I don't want no part of that. I don't want no part of that. I'm not even in the trenches.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Oh, Carolina had 27. Someone said so they won 30. 27 on field walk off field goal. Yeah, yeah, that. I'm just looking at the. I'm just looking at the offensive line play, and I'm like, damn. I don't know how much longer it's going to be. Interesting. They still got the Broncos. The Broncos, like second. Maybe they second a third in sacks, right? It might be one, but they're. They are very high up in sacks. Where the Broncos in sacks? I think the, the, the, the. The. The Ravens are up there also in sacks. Okay, Broncos are one in sacks. And they got the Broncos again, this time in Denver. And you know, the Broncos always play them tough, even when they had great, great team. Team that was winning the Super Bowl. I mean, the Broncos played them tough, right? The Broncos play them tough. And so it's going to be very, very interesting to see how this thing play out moving forward. Like I said, they're going to play some defense that can pressure the quarterback. If you get Pittsburgh, they can pressure the quarterback. The Broncos, you played them again, you might get them in the playoffs. If they get in, they can pressure the quarterback. The Ravens number three in sacks, they can get after the quarterback. But deep down, I don't think the Chiefs feel the Ravens as great as Lamar Jackson is. And he's been sensational since his second year of starting. I mean, his first year full time starting when you won the mvp. He's been sensational. But I don't think. I don't think the Chiefs fear them.
Travis Hunter
No, I. Listen, I don't think the Chiefs fear anybody. Especially not two times Super Bowl, super bowl championship, three times winning Chiefs. I don't think they're free anybody at all. As long as they got 15 out there now, we good. We gonna be all right.
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho. Well, it happened. It took a lot. A little bit. Well, it didn't take as long. I mean, we didn't think it would take this long, but it. They. The Bears did it. Matt Eberfluss was fired after six straight loss Damn. Caleb Williams said he changed the final play call at the end of the game. I ended up changing the play because we had 13 seconds. Any play that you have with 13 seconds with no time. Well, we had a timeout, but with that situation, 13 seconds to make a call and try to get a snap and try to take a shot. That's why you call time out with 33 seconds, right? So you don't have 13 seconds. Guess how much time you got now, ocho? You got 33.
Travis Hunter
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
So now all I need. If I can get 10 yards. All I want to do is get 10 yards. They're gonna. Look, they're gonna. They're gonna. They're not gonna let me out of bounds. I know that. They're gonna play the boundaries because you don't have any timeouts.
Travis Hunter
Right?
Shannon Sharpe
But even if they play the boundaries, Ocho, I don't care. I don't care. I can get my field goal unit on. I can get the guys that's not on the field goal unit off, and I can get a kick up, get a kick, snap down, kick in 18 seconds or less. 18 seconds. That's the cutoff we use. Now, some people say they can stretch it and maybe get into 16, but our motto was, we always wanted 18 seconds, right? And we practiced it religiously. Go. Hey.
Travis Hunter
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
But he was let go. Bravely Bear safety Jaquan Brisker didn't hold back when the news of his head coach was fired. He said, God, don't make mistakes.
Travis Hunter
You know what that means?
Shannon Sharpe
We saw. We saw last. Last night, we saw. Keenan Allen said the players played well enough to win the game.
Travis Hunter
All right, that's two times. The underlying tone tells you all you need to know. The frustration was already built up. It was continuing to build. The players were frustrated.
Shannon Sharpe
DJ Martin making the same mistakes, though. Ocho, huh? It's like. It's like a Ocho. It's like a player. Teams will tolerate a player if he makes a mistake, but you keep making the same mistake, they're going to say, either it's the way we teaching it or the way you learning it, or you just don't give a fuck.
Travis Hunter
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Now, if they. If maybe you're visual. I'm a visual learner, Ocho. You just couldn't tell it. I need to see it on the board, right? Let me see it on the board or let me see it on. Oh, let me see it on the page. Let me see it on the paper. Okay, you want me to go here? Okay. Okay, Now I got you. I got you right, bro. Chad, they will get your ass up out of there if you keep making.
Travis Hunter
The same mistake quickly, quick, or unless you elite. You got, you got elite now.
Shannon Sharpe
But if you elite, you ain't gonna keep making that same mistake.
Travis Hunter
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you right, you right. But the better you, the better you are at your position, the more value you hold to a team, the more grace you get.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, true. Absolutely. But you just couldn't have him keep making that mistake. Think about all the games that they've lost. The last six that's come down to one possession. Now I don't put that blame on him for the Hail Mary, right, because he called a timeout. He had him in what you call him and 29 was horse jacking around. I mean, you know, he was bull driving. Ocho. He was bull driving. And then they called it. They, they had Green Bay dead to write. And then that kid get blocked and they say we should have my thinking of Ocho. If they blocked it, they were going to block it. You guys got, you guys got to, what you call them, you got to hold up.
Travis Hunter
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Just cause you line up the kicker field goal, that doesn't mean they're going to let you. If you used to be Ocho, when you line up and kick a pat Ocho, they would let. You guys wouldn't even rush. Yeah. Now because they backed it up, say what, 10, 15 yards guys rush, they actually try to block the p. They.
Travis Hunter
Feel like they have a better chance of being. Now, now.
Shannon Sharpe
So who is the best coach to fix the Bears?
Travis Hunter
Hey, I, I, I said, I said it yesterday and I'm, I'm gonna say it again. I like Belich, I like Belichick. Will he actually take the job? I'm not sure, but I know where he goes. He has to have a quarterback at the helm and he has a, he has a quarterback in Caleb.
Shannon Sharpe
He does.
Travis Hunter
He has a, he is a quarterback in Caleb Williams. You know, and if there's anybody that Caleb Williams can benefit from as a head coach, it would be the court. I mean, the coach that has six, seven super bowl rings, you know, I mean, that's just me. I could be wrong. Some people might not like it, but I like it. New England, Chicago, same weather, you know, Windy City, snowy city. You know, I mean, Bill is used to that type of atmosphere. You talk about giving. If he had the opportunity to coach, man, the organization will give the keys over to Bill. Allow him. We're going to let you do what you need to do to put us in position to be a winning team year in and year out and compete for a championship. I know that.
Shannon Sharpe
I think the thing that's concerning to me is that Coach Belichick only knows one way to coach, and he wants to coach everybody, all his quarterbacks, like he coached Tom. Tom could take that type of coaching. Everybody can't take that type of coaching, Ocho. But as a coach, the really great coaches know how to get through to a player using different techniques and tactics to get the same point across.
Travis Hunter
Right?
Shannon Sharpe
You can't dog cuss. You can't. You can't be condescending. You can't be flippant or dismissive just because. Well, I was that way with Tom. Okay, yeah, you might be one way in a relationship with one young lady, but you try that with another young lady, she gonna slap fire the same thing. You might be one way with one boyfriend or in a relationship with someone and you talk to them that way, they're not going to tolerate that. But the objective is to understand what is the best way, Ocho, that I can get through this player, that. That he understands what I'm trying to say. Some people, you can coach like Tom Brady clearly tomorrow. But see, the thing with Tom, Tom and I saw this very early on. Tom wanted Coach Belichick's approval. Just one time he wanted to say, tom, you did a great job. Right, Tom? He never did that. He said the team played well. It wasn't just Tom. A lot of other coaches were always a. Peyton played unbelievable. Aaron Rodgers played great. John. John Elway, Dan Marito, yada, yada, yada. Coaches would. That's not what Coach Belichick did. We had a lot of guys to play. Well, Tom. Well, he didn't have open heart surgery when he got stitches in his palm. That's what Tom wanted because he looked at Coach Belichick like a second father. Tom wants approve. We all wants to be. See, when people say a validation. Yes, we do. Because we want validation. We pull up a great season. Send me to the Pro bowl, give me my all pro honors, give me mvp, give me defensive player of the year, rookie of the year. That is validation. And people say, well, I don't care. Yes, you do. You want that Oscar, you want that Emmy, you want that Grammy. You want to be number one on the billboard. You do. You want it. You want that promotion on your job. That's validation. Oh, so you work at the same job and you don't want to get promoted? I'm cool. I stay. I work 30 years that it's no, you want to get promoted. That's validation. Tom wanted that from Coach Belichick and. But Coach Belichick was unwilling to give that to him. But that didn't stop Tom from trying win after win, super bowl after Super Bowl. Coach Belichick looks at it like this. Coach Belichick didn't have that type of relationship with the players because he never wanted to get close, because he knew at some point in time, oh, he's gonna have to cut those players, he's gonna have to trade those players. It's kind of like in the military. That's why they don't let. Let hir up have relationship with subordinates. It clouds your judgment. Coach Belichick says, I'm not going to let any of these players cloud my judgment, so I'm going to keep them at a distance. As my grandfather used to say, boy, I'm going to feed you with a long handle spoon. Which means I'm not going to let you get too close to me. Coach Belichick needs to understand everybody doesn't have the skin, excuse me, that Tom had. So you can't coach him like that. Yeah, how do I coach this guy but get the same results that I got out of coaching another guy another way? Right?
Travis Hunter
I mean, he. He done been around the game long enough now, you know, Gotta think about how long he been around the game.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes, he.
Travis Hunter
He's dealt with different players, and I'm sure he can adjust, especially, you know, to the times that.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, why didn't he adjust with Mac Jones?
Travis Hunter
Oh, Mac Jones was. Was horrible, Coach Ocho.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, hell, when you give me somebody. Hey, I tell you what, Ocho. I'm gonna have a defensive lineman to be your receiver coach. I'm gonna have him trying to tell you how to run routes, how that's gonna work for Yocho. And, you know, I'm not talking about. No, see, now you looking at your year six of your seven. I'm talking about a year two.
Travis Hunter
You didn't hear what I said, huh? Even if you have someone that's coaching by the position that's not his original position, you still have to be able to play said position. And if you can't, oh, yo, the.
Shannon Sharpe
Guy went to the Pro bowl as a rookie, so he just forgot how to play. Mac Jones led him to the playoffs and went to the. And went to the Pro bowl, so he just got forgot how to play.
Travis Hunter
I know. We can't. We can't. You know, how can. You know how hard it is to be consistent year in, a year out. Now we, yeah, we cannot, we can't just put that on. You know, some people have, some people have. What should we call it, right? Artists come out and be a one hit wonder. You know, it's about, it's about stacking those that, stacking that consistency up year in and year out. It happens all the time. You seen somebody go to a Pro bowl one year, then the next few years, well, what the hell happened to them? Now we can't blame it on the coaches.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm not saying Mac, I'm not saying Mack Jones was going to be the 15th or the 20th greatest quarterback of all time, but that guy had potential.
Travis Hunter
Oh yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
He took a team to the playoffs. Is it easy to go to the playoffs?
Travis Hunter
Oh, absolutely.
Shannon Sharpe
Not Exactly.
Travis Hunter
Absolutely.
Shannon Sharpe
And he did that. But see, that's the arrogance of Coach Belichick, because he believed it doesn't matter who you gonna have a special teams coach that's never called a play and a defensive coordinator that's never called an offensive play. That's what you're gonna give your young quarterback. Coach, there's no denying that Coach Belichick knows the game of football.
Travis Hunter
Oh yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
But the objective is, is to put the right people in place to not only coach the game, but in order to play the game, right. It's going to be very, very interesting. And plus oo people look at Coach Belichick, okay, they look at Cleveland, no quarterback, very, very, very average. They look at no quarterback, very, very to below average. And they look at this big sample size, Tom Brady, many believe the goat quarterback, tremendous success. So what Coach Belichick are we getting right?
Travis Hunter
Hey, I don't know. That's a good question. I know one thing I know, I. You can't deny his resume. You can't deny his resume. And Chicago needs something with a resume like that.
Shannon Sharpe
But you gotta understand, look at Caleb, he's a young guy. Yeah. You think you could talk to young guys like he talked to Tom?
Travis Hunter
Damn. No, but I'm sure he got.
Shannon Sharpe
Here's the difference, Ocho. Here's the difference. Tom was a six round draft pick. Caleb Williamson, number one overall draft pick, he ain't going nowhere, right?
Travis Hunter
Yeah, I see, I see where you going with it.
Shannon Sharpe
You see how guys, guys that get high draft pick, they don't, they don't be listening to you. Like guys. I mean some, not all, but guys. That's fifth, sixth, seventh, undrafted free agent. What you need from me, Coach? You right, Coach. Okay, first round or second man, Please.
Travis Hunter
But you know he wouldn't act like that, especially at the quarterback position. You know he ain't gonna be like that.
Shannon Sharpe
You just said all the time how he ringed Tom Brady for a throw when they lost in the playoffs. What, you mean he died?
Travis Hunter
Hey, listen. No, I'm talking about Kayla. I said Caleb wouldn't be like that. But also, he was setting a precedent for those coming in. You know, I remember that was the first meeting, first time I was like, what the fuck going on here? What's wrong, baby? Huh?
Shannon Sharpe
Who you call baby French fry?
Travis Hunter
You can't. You can't hear her singing. Baby, come say hello to uncle. Come on. She just waking up.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, okay. So we have a. We haven't. We haven't decided on the coach yet. So we'll see.
Travis Hunter
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Cam Newton calls out to his arm strength. Tua's arm strength is exposed in cold weather. The verdict is out when scouting Miami Dolphins because Tua doesn't have the arm in cold weather. Ocho.
Travis Hunter
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Are the. If are the Dolphins wolves tua's arm Mike McDaniel coaching what is the blame for the inability to get wins consistently when the temperature drops below 30?
Travis Hunter
You know what? That's. That's a great question. I'm. I'm not sure what it is. Now, we can't blame Mike. Mike McDaniels. We can't blame Tua. You know, the arm strength has always been a thing that people have complained about many of times, and he always has shown the doubters that that doesn't matter. I'm not sure it's the inclement weather, you know, especially with it being cold, that doesn't affect, you know, you being able to throw the ball, you know, through the wind. It wasn't even windy. It was just cold the other night.
Shannon Sharpe
Now when it started, it started. It started. Cut. The snow started coming. It started like a crosswind. And I saw some player from the packers. So them boys didn't want to be out there. They was cold, it was shivering.
Travis Hunter
Obviously they were cold. But you think about history of the Dolphins playing in cold weather.
Shannon Sharpe
It's.
Travis Hunter
They've always. They've always been, you know, abysmal in cold weather for some reason. And obviously being in Miami, that might have some type of effect on you when you're always in 80 degree weather and then it's time to go play somewhere cold.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Travis Hunter
What the problem is, I actually do not know. I don't know mentally, especially as a Dolphins player, when you go into those games where you're playing 30. 30 and below 20 degrees, wherever it may be. You have to lock in. You got to lock in and not even really care about the weather around you. But the task at hand is only four quarters. How well can I play for four quarters so I can go out here and get my ass back on the plane and back to Miami with a W.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know how can you.
Travis Hunter
Here. It's all. It's all here.
Shannon Sharpe
Nice. No, no, no any here it's cold.
Travis Hunter
I know. Even if it's cold. But you only block. You only black the coal out up here. That's the only way to do it.
Shannon Sharpe
And that cold different. So you. When you go to. When you. When you from a warm climate and you go to like the. That Midwest cold. That's that bone crunching cold. That thing get in your bones and whoo. I mean, because think about it. When they stepped off that plane like, damn. We ain't. We ain't in Miami no more. We ain't on south beach, huh?
Travis Hunter
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Nope. The ground. The ground cold, right? You don't be wanting to drink. I don't be wanting to drink no water. Cause the water get on you. It's cold. Oh, man. And we knew we get certain teams that came more like the Dolphins. We played them in the playoffs. Yeah, they want none of that. Don't you?
Travis Hunter
And it's so funny. I'm from Miami. I'm from Miami. Born and raised every bit of Dade county in Liberty City. But I love playing in the cold weather. I could not wait until we got to November and December in Cincinnati. Regardless of what our record may have been. Come on, Cole, please hurry up. But my wanting to enjoy the cold playing in New England, playing in Boston, I'm saying the same playing in Green Bay if off the opportunity to present itself playing again. Champ Bailey and John lynch in Denver when it was cold later on in the season. You know what? At halftime I don't got to get no goddamn iv. I ain't got to get no IV because I would cramp in my calves almost every game.
Shannon Sharpe
Made them little calves. I don't believe.
Travis Hunter
No, not a little, man. Oh, you gotta understand. I play. I play. I was six, six'four 220, you know. But I don't know. It's weird. I'm not sure what the Dolphins could do, man. Because this has been going on so long historically for the Dolphins, you know, it is who was arm. You know, it's always something. And in damn sure ain't Mike McDaniels.
Shannon Sharpe
They're going to have to find. I mean, look, unless they get home field throughout the playoffs, they're going to end up having to go to Buffalo every. I mean, look, Buffalo isn't going anywhere. Mahomes isn't going anywhere. Josh McDaniel or Josh Allen, excuse me. Isn't going anywhere. So. And Josh Allen is in your division. So unless you get home, feel snatched that away from him and you force people to come to Miami when the weather might be nice, will probably be nice. You might get some. You might get some rain, but that's it. You're not likely to. You getting snow, 20 degrees, 10 degrees. You're not gonna get no weather like you got in Kansas City when y'all took y'all ass out there last year. So that's what you gotta hope for. Ocho. You've got to put yourself in a situation where I don't have. I don't have to go there because you got to go there because you're probably gonna have to go to Baltimore. You have to go to Kansas City. You'll have to go to Buffalo. You probably don't have to go to Pittsburgh. I see those places, all those places. It could easily be below 30. Yeah, but it might be below 20.
Travis Hunter
Yeah, that's. That's doable. Baltimore is manageable. You know, Kansas City is manageable. Now you talk about going to Green Bay. Now, that's. Now that's a different ball game now.
Shannon Sharpe
No, Kansas City ain't manageable. You saw how they look back there last year. You saw Luxurious need jam Tyree because Tyreek was cold. You saw that Tyreek had done got used to. Tyreek had done got used to Miami.
Travis Hunter
Yeah, man, it's different.
Shannon Sharpe
You gotta function differently. You gotta get your mind and you look. You really have to get your mind right to play in cold weather. It ain't no, man, I'm good. No, you not good.
Travis Hunter
Not. No, you not.
Shannon Sharpe
It start that week, man. And it's hard on your because there's nothing they can use to simulate it. You see, in Denver, we go into playing cold, it's. We outside, it's cold. We go to Kansas City, we go to Pittsburgh, we go to Green Bay, wherever the case may be. Cleveland, it's cold. We used. Yeah. And a lot of times, how do you simulate that? If you're in a warm weather, you just can't open the door. Because a lot of times, even when we going inside, they open the door to let the cold come in.
Travis Hunter
Right?
Shannon Sharpe
Because sometimes it was snowing. So Bad. We couldn't. They couldn't throw the snow off the field. We did have heating coils on the field that was closest to the. Closest to the. The building right now. They got. They upgraded. They about to upgrade again. Look, they got unbelievable facilities, but you got to prepare yourself. You got to start preparing yourself that week before. Oo.
Travis Hunter
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Most definitely. But it's hard because it's hard.
Shannon Sharpe
It is.
Travis Hunter
It's hard to emulate. I just got. I got it, man. Yeah. I'm weird. I got appreciation for that cold. 20 degrees, 30 degrees, 40, 50. Man. Bring it on. I ain't lying. I ain't wearing no. I ain't wearing no sleeves either.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, I'm practicing the sleeve I'm giving. I'm putting on everything they gave me.
Travis Hunter
You know, you can't. You can't. You can't feel the ball. Huh? You heard me.
Shannon Sharpe
No, no, no. Not in the game. Not in the game, I was gonna say.
Travis Hunter
Yeah, I don't like that.
Shannon Sharpe
We ain't got no heated benches. We ain't got no crowd to give me no boost, and I ain't got no adrenaline going. Kiss my. Kiss my tail. I'm not going out. Hold on.
Travis Hunter
Y'all ain't had a heated benches back then?
Shannon Sharpe
No, we had not for practice.
Travis Hunter
Oh, you talking about practice. I thought that.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Travis Hunter
I mean the game. I mean the game.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. We gotta put a game.
Travis Hunter
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Mike, you ain't getting no heated benches for no practice. Oh, no.
Travis Hunter
Hell no. You don't need it for.
Shannon Sharpe
That's what I'm saying. So I put on everything. You absolutely right. I'm not. Look, I'm not going to be so cumbersome, but I can't move, right. Because all of a sudden, you look at sluggish out there, might be like, what the hell going on? So. But you know, the lineman. The lineman. Linemen come out there no matter how cold it was. Yeah. The linemen are coming out there with shorts, and they're coming out there with no.
Travis Hunter
No sleeves. Always.
Shannon Sharpe
Always. And all of them was like that. It wasn't just like one. Every lineman, no matter how cold they was out there with shorts, the pads on, and short sleeves.
Travis Hunter
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Kiss my tail. I ain't. I'm not going out there like that. Absolutely not. I got on a turtleneck.
Travis Hunter
You had a turtleneck on?
Shannon Sharpe
Well, sure. At practice.
Travis Hunter
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, man. I'm not fitting, boy. I'm not gonna go out there, Ocho. You know, and. And. And. And. And practice, once you Get. Once you start shivering, it's over.
Travis Hunter
It's a rapid if over. Unless they have y'all had, you know, we had the heater. The. The blower. What you call the big heater thing.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah, the blow. No, we ain't got that.
Travis Hunter
Oh, you see? Yeah, yeah. So if. If you get caught when you get in that position where you cold and you start shivering. We did have the heaters on the sideline. I'm talking about.
Shannon Sharpe
We had it.
Travis Hunter
I'm talking about in practice now. I'm not.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm talking about the practice. No, Mike ain't have that.
Travis Hunter
Oh, wow.
Shannon Sharpe
And that's why I was like, I already know me. Because. Hey, hey, I don't. You don't know. But. Hey, Ocho, I got milk. Hey, Mike, I gotta go in. I gotta, you know, gotta handle some business like going in there. 84. I'm up there in front of the eagles. Oh, sure. I'm looking at the weather out of practice. Y'all lied to me. Please. Hey, back outside. Bad. It got cold out there. Bad. Right. But hey, ain't nothing like that, man, your teeth. You thought ain't nothing you can do on.
Travis Hunter
Hey, once some toes and them fingertips get cold.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, man.
Travis Hunter
Boy, it's it. Boy, you got. You got nothing but hell to deal with after that.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, I don't. Hey there. Hey, I'll go today. Hey, Mike, I think somebody. Something didn't agree with me today, man. I need to go in there. Yeah, yeah. Damn. I sure hope don't nobody come in here and see me standing in front of this heater. Okay, bacon lovers, let me tell you something amazing about Oscar Meyer. Thick cut bacon. Now, I don't know if you've used a smoker before, but it's a real labor of love. You've got to put time in to get that rich, smoky flavor. Now think about this. Oscar Meyer smoked their bacon for 12 hours. That's half a day. Twice as long as most bacon is smoked. So for that savory, smoky, thick cut bacon. Keep it.
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Ocho in the last home game at Folsom Field in front of the home crowd, Travis Hunter and Shadour Sanders put on a show.
Travis Hunter
Yes they did.
Shannon Sharpe
Colorado demolished Oklahoma State 52 to nothing to keep their slim playoff hopes alive. Prime told Colorado going into respond after the 3721 law. The Buffaloes didn't just respond, they obliterated the opposition. It was Colorado's long largest margin of victory since beating the Gophers, the Minnesota Gophers 58 to nothing in 1991. Shador Sanders was 34 of 41, 438, five touchdowns and an interception. Shador, excuse me. Travis Hunter 10 catches, a buck 16, three touchdowns, a pick, two pass breakups they had. Yeah, Travis was no shadow, was 31 of 41, 438, five touchdowns, one interception. Webster Wester, excuse me, had 11 catches, a buck 75, two touchdowns. Travis Hunter 10 catches, 116, three touchdowns. I think his name is Will Shepard. Has six catches for 67 yards. Yards. I like this because this is what prime knew. Prime knew that the boys estate was going to try to give Genti as many carries as he could handle and let him try to get as many yards he can. Yeah and he says I'm not gonna let y'all. I'm not. I'm not gonna just get up a big and take my dog. Call my dogs off, right Trav? Stay out there because I want them to. I want them to. I let them know know just how great you are. Can I interest you in 10 for a buck 16 and three touchdowns? Can I interest you on a pick? Can I interest you in two pass breakups? Can I interest y'all in that?
Travis Hunter
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
He left. No doubt at all. No doubt that he's going to win the Heisman Trophy in December. What is that the first week of December? So this next Saturday, isn't it? It's normally the first Saturday. It's normally the first Saturday in December. December 14th. They backed it up. Okay, just. Oh, yeah, because, you know, they got. They got conference play now. Oo, right. Yeah, conference. So conference play would be next weekend. Yeah, I. There's no question in my mind he's the best college player. Look. And there's nothing. Look, Aston Jenti has had an unbelievable season. Crazy 2000. What is he at 2000? Is he at 20? 20? Was it 2086? Well, we know Barry. Barry. Barry rushed for 26, 25 and 11 games, and he had another 225 yards and five touchdowns in the Holiday bowl that. They didn't count that. So he would have been over 2800 yards and over 40 touchdowns in 12 games, which, I mean, think about how much, how many yards you would literally. You would literally have to rush for like 250 yards a game. Ojo. To beat that. Yeah, 22, 88. So he has 20. He has 22, 88 yards and he has the conference championship next week. Right. Okay, so Barry's 26, 25, 26, 28. So he's about what, 350, 340 something yards? 334. 340. But I love what I saw from Colorado. 340. Man, Ocho, if they could have just got canvas now they're going to the. The Big 12 championship game with a chance to go, no question. They're going to the. What you call them. They'd be going to the College Football Playoff.
Travis Hunter
So now they have. They have to rely on two. Two or three teams to lose. Iowa, if I'm not mistaken. Is it Iowa. Iowa State?
Shannon Sharpe
I think it's Iowa State. Yeah.
Travis Hunter
They.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Travis Hunter
So hopefully. Hopefully everything goes in their favor and they. They make it, make it to the playoffs. I think they can. They can. They can cause some hell now. They can cause some hell and cause some havoc depending on who they matched up with. So here's the hope. And they do make it.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, he could. He could easily. But how many games have we played? 12, 13. He played 12 games. He's played 12 games. So he's already played one more game. I don't think he's getting 340. Who did they play? Who do they play? Okay. Yeah. And they gonna play because they gotta play a game in the College Football Playoff and they're gonna give him as many carries he need. Cause I can see that. I can see that. So he needs a hundred. Because if they. What? What if, what if they lose this game? Do you think they made the College Football Playoff? But who could it possibly be, man? How. The Colorado State and what's gonna beat the brakes up there? Yeah, yeah. So they're guaranteed at least two more games, Ocho. And so he's probably going to need. He's going to need 340 yards in two games. And there haven't been very many games this year that he's gotten held under 170 yards. And I think this is why, I think this is why prime left his guys in, right? That he's like, look, no, no, no, no, no, no. I know it's 35 nothing. So we gonna finish this. We gonna finish this thing out, right? And Travis, his last game at Folsom Field. Nobody in Colorado is going to not, not remember him. They're going to remember him from ever. You can make the case he's the greatest college Colorado player ever. I mean, Cordell, Rashad Salam, Byron Rizzle White, he was a chief, he was a Supreme Court justice. He went there. But it's hard. They had Westbrook, they've had some great defender. You know, they had Alfred, Alfred Williams and they have Hudson and they had a lot of different guy. Eric B. Enemy, J.J. flanagan. They've had some guys, yeah. But it's gonna be hard to say that they've been a better player than Travis Hunter.
Travis Hunter
No.
Shannon Sharpe
Damn. Georgia's losing, what, 17 nothing. Georgia Tech.
Travis Hunter
I mean, I might remove that. No, because if I turn that on, I'm gonna be looking to my left. Don't worry about it.
Shannon Sharpe
But Shador threw the ball. Exception. Well, today, 34, 41, 438 set. He. He broke his own record. He had the most touchdown passes in a single season. He up that now. What's he at now, like 34. He Most passing yards in a single season. I think he broke Coy Dettmir's record back in the mid-90s when he was playing for Rick Neuhysel. Yeah, he said an all time single season passing record. The previous record was 3,527 yards set by Coy Detmer with another game to play. So he has an opportunity to move that even further. Ocho. Travis Hunter, he had already had. He was the Heisman front runner. And today was his most impressive game of his career. A three touchdown performance, a one interception, a couple of pass breakups. Hunter had 10 catches for 116 yards, three touchdowns. His fourth interception on the season. With the regular season and stat book offensively, he had 92 receptions, 1152 yards, 14 receiving touchdowns, one rushing touchdown. On defense, he had four interceptions. With a lot of quarterbacks not even throwing in his direction. He is the best collegiate player in football. We've never seen a guy that could do what he did on both sides of the ball. Maybe you can find a guy that was better than he was on one side or the other. Yeah, but when you combine the two, nothing. Nobody, not in the history of the game has been better than this kid. What he did this year. Nobody. Not even close, huh? Shador has 35 touchdowns this season with a chat with, with another game, with another game, they're gonna get a bowl game. So he has an opportunity to add to that. I mean he's probably close to 4,000 yards, isn't he? He threw for 438, 3488. That's where he's at now. Okay. No added. So you add 3,488 plus 438, that's 1626 through. Yeah, Shador is 74 yards away from 4,000. So what, bro? I mean, for a guy that says the only reason he was throwing good.
Travis Hunter
Because he was at Jackson State, he proved everybody wrong.
Shannon Sharpe
Travis Hunter wasn't gonna be able to do that either. Jackson State coach Prime was good, but he was coaching at Jackson State.
Travis Hunter
You always gonna have your doubters, you know that?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, for sure.
Travis Hunter
Always gonna have your doubters. Good motivation. Not that you need it because half us, us, we already self motivated anyway. But it's a little nice, little fuel for the fire. Yeah. Prove a few people wrong. Ain't nothing wrong with that.
Shannon Sharpe
But they'll move the goal post and.
Travis Hunter
Then say something else, depending on who it is. Oh, you know they, you know, you know that game they played?
Shannon Sharpe
No, just the haters. Just the haters.
Travis Hunter
The haters always, you know.
Shannon Sharpe
But it was a very impressive performance that scored 21 in the first quarter, none in the second, 17 in the third, 14 in the, in the fourth. And they won by the score of 52 nothing. Shador Sanders 34, 41, 438, five touchdowns and Travis Hunter 10 for buck 16, three touchdowns, another pick, pass breakup, couple of tackles. Webster had 11 catches for a buck 75 and two touchdowns. And they completely. This is what you do to a team that's three and eight coming in. Let them know that early on. Okay, y'all can quit now. Y'all can stop.
Travis Hunter
We ain't gonna let you hang around.
Shannon Sharpe
Nope. Nope. The Buffaloes kept their slim hopes alive for the Big 12 appearance. Ocho, they need at least two other things. Two of the three teams sitting at 6 and 2 in the Big 12, Arizona State and Iowa State and BYU to lose. Arizona State plays rival Arizona. Arizona is terrible. While I was they host Kansas State. BYU hosts Houston. Yeah. So they just need any two of these to lose, right? Or they need all three of them.
Travis Hunter
Two of them.
Shannon Sharpe
Two of the three. Okay.
Travis Hunter
What'S the what's the chances.
Shannon Sharpe
Arizona State is on the road to Arizona, but Arizona real ain't too good.
Travis Hunter
It bad, huh?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, Kansas State, it's okay, but they're on the road there in Ames. They're in Oakland at Iowa State and BYU hosts Houston and the words of Florida, Evans, Ocho. Damn, damn, damn. Hey, Candace, y'all them the Volume when it's tip off time at my house, there are a few things that are must haves on my checklist. My fellow friends and fans. Check my favorite jersey. It is good luck. Check an iconic drink that's a fan favorite.
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Club Shay Shay: Nightcap - Hour 1 Summary
Release Date: November 30, 2024
Hosts:
The episode kicks off with a deep dive into the intense Black Friday matchup between the Kansas City Chiefs and the Las Vegas Raiders. Shannon Sharpe and his co-hosts analyze the critical moments that led to the Chiefs' narrow victory.
Key Highlights:
Game-Deciding Play: Shannon discusses the pivotal snap by Raiders rookie center Jackson Powers Johnson, which ultimately denied the Raiders a chance to kick a potential game-winning field goal.
Shannon Sharpe [07:14]: "The Chiefs escaped another Black Friday game with the win over the Raiders. The Miss Time snap by Las Vegas rookie center Jackson Powers Johnson with just seconds left denied the Raiders an opportunity to kick a field goal."
Defense Wins Games: Travis Hunter emphasizes the Chiefs' defensive resilience, highlighting their ability to block crucial kicks and pressure the quarterback in critical moments.
Travis Hunter [08:55]: "They blocked the kick."
Quarterback Performance: The discussion touches on Patrick Mahomes' performance under pressure, noting both his strengths and areas where the Chiefs' offensive line needs improvement.
Shannon Sharpe [10:24]: "Patrick Mahomes hasn't played as well as we'd like him to, except in actual specific times when they need him."
Notable Quotes:
Shannon and his co-hosts delve into the recent firing of Matt Eberflus, the head coach of the Chicago Bears, following a series of disappointing performances.
Key Highlights:
Season Struggles: The Bears endured six straight losses, prompting the decision to relieve Eberflus of his duties.
Shannon Sharpe [37:15]: "Matt Eberflus was fired after six straight losses."
Player Reactions: Safety Jaquan Brisker voiced his frustration with the coaching changes, highlighting the internal turmoil within the team.
Shannon Sharpe [38:53]: "Bravely Bear safety Jaquan Brisker didn't hold back when the news of his head coach was fired. He said, God, don't make mistakes."
Potential Replacements: The conversation speculates on possible coaching candidates, with Travis suggesting Bill Belichick as an ideal fit due to his extensive experience and proven track record.
Travis Hunter [41:34]: "I like Belichick. Will he actually take the job? I'm not sure, but I know where he goes."
Notable Quotes:
The discussion shifts to college football, focusing on the Colorado Buffaloes' impressive performance that keeps their chances for the College Football Playoff (CFP) alive.
Key Highlights:
Dominant Victory: Shannon recounts Colorado's decisive 52-0 win over Oklahoma State, marking their largest margin of victory since 1991.
Shannon Sharpe [65:28]: "Colorado demolished Oklahoma State 52-0 to keep their slim playoff hopes alive."
Star Performances: Travis Hunter and Shadour Sanders delivered standout performances, contributing significantly to the team's success.
Shannon Sharpe [67:14]: "Travis Hunter had 10 catches for 116 yards, three touchdowns."
Heisman Trophy Contention: Shannon lauds Travis Hunter's exceptional season, positioning him as a frontrunner for the Heisman Trophy.
Shannon Sharpe [72:52]: "He is the best collegiate player in football. We've never seen a guy that could do what he did on both sides of the ball."
Notable Quotes:
The hosts engage in a detailed analysis of coaching methodologies, particularly focusing on how different coaching styles impact player performance and team dynamics.
Key Highlights:
Adaptability in Coaching: Shannon critiques Coach Belichick's one-size-fits-all approach, arguing that great coaches must tailor their methods to individual players.
Shannon Sharpe [43:01]: "As a coach, the really great coaches know how to get through to a player using different techniques and tactics to get the same point across."
Player Accountability: Emphasis is placed on the importance of players learning from their mistakes and holding themselves accountable to maintain team integrity and performance.
Shannon Sharpe [39:36]: "You just couldn't have him keep making that same mistake."
Notable Quotes:
A segment is dedicated to discussing how cold weather affects player performance, particularly for teams like the Miami Dolphins who are not accustomed to harsh climates.
Key Highlights:
Cold Weather Challenges: Shannon and Travis explore the difficulties faced by players from warm climates when adapting to cold conditions, affecting both physical performance and mental readiness.
Shannon Sharpe [56:31]: "When you go from a warm climate and you go to like the Midwest cold, that's bone-crunching cold."
Preparation Strategies: The conversation highlights the need for teams to prepare in advance for cold-weather games to minimize performance dips.
Shannon Sharpe [57:25]: "You got to prepare yourself that week before."
Notable Quotes:
The episode of Club Shay Shay provides an insightful analysis of recent NFL and college football events, highlighting key games, coaching decisions, and player performances. Shannon Sharpe, alongside his co-hosts, offers expert commentary, enriched with notable quotes and timestamps, making the discussion both engaging and informative for listeners.
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