Nightcap Hour 1: Chiefs TRADE for JUSTIN FIELDS + DeAndre Hopkins UNDERUTILIZED with Ravens?! + NFL’s PERFORMANCE based PAY Program + Salary Cap to take STATE INCOME TAX into Account? + Travis Etienne Jr. CORRECTS PRONUNCIATION of his NAME + Albert Br...

Summary

Club Shay Shay: Nightcap Hour 1 (March 17, 2026)

Hosted by Shannon Sharpe & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson

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Episode Overview

This episode focuses on several hot topics from around the NFL, including the Kansas City Chiefs’ trade for quarterback Justin Fields, DeAndre Hopkins’ frustration with his usage in Baltimore, the NFL’s performance-based pay system, a thought-provoking discussion about salary cap and state taxes, player name pronunciations, and the ever-complex realities of player movement and league business.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Chiefs Acquire Justin Fields as Backup QB

(07:57 – 18:33)

• Trade Details: Chiefs acquire Justin Fields from the Jets for a 2027 draft pick. The Jets will pay $7M of Fields’ $10M guarantee; KC pays $3M.
  • Mahomes is rehabbing a major knee injury; Fields comes in as insurance.
• Shannon’s Analysis:
  • “I like this. Andy [Reid] loves mobile quarterbacks… Justin Fields is a lot more mobile than Patrick Mahomes…and Andy’s a quarterback whisperer.” (11:20)
  • “If he can’t have success here, where can he have success?” (12:44)
• Chad’s Perspective:
  • Appreciates Fields’ skill set and sees Andy Reid’s system as ideal: “All quarterbacks he’s worked with and coached, they’ve all had success.” (12:46)
  • Recognition of Chiefs as a “competent organization” where Fields could thrive.
• Discussion of Fields’ Past:
  • Both hosts express sympathy for Fields' lack of support in New York and Chicago, but Shannon insists, “At some point…we gotta start holding these players accountable.” (14:19)
  • “We can’t keep blaming organizations; you can’t go to 15 organizations and say all of them are bad.” (14:19)

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2. Parenthood vs. Commitments: Ocho’s Birthday Dilemma

(18:33 – 23:47)

• Chad shares: He missed a friend’s event to celebrate his daughter’s birthday, stirring some playful back-and-forth with Shannon about priorities.
  • “My child’s birthday is tomorrow. I have to get on the flight at 9am. Therefore, mama asked me to stay in town today so you could do something with her.” (20:35)
  • “Anybody don’t like it, you know what the f*** you could do. Now that’s the last I’m gonna say about it.” (20:21)
• Shannon: Pokes fun but ultimately supports Chad’s decision to put his daughter first, discussing how unpredictable life can be for public personalities.

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3. DeAndre Hopkins Feeling Underutilized in Baltimore

(24:06 – 39:03)

• The Issue: D-Hop (age 33) claims underuse, specifically in the red zone. Only 22 catches, 330 yards, 2 TDs all season.
• Chad: “I hate when they do this to us…once you hit your 30s, they weed you out. He’s such an extreme talent even at 33…I hate that they weed you out…that’s the way they weed you out in general.” (28:28)
  • Provides personal insight into being a veteran WR phased out of gameplans.
• Shannon: Explains league’s short-term view: “Just says, you know what, I’m a hired gun…a temp service.” (30:07)
  • On Baltimore’s priorities: “Even though Zay Flowers is 5’8”, he’s the number one receiver, he’s getting those opportunities…D Hop is the fifth option.” (31:13–31:34)
• Contrast with Devante Adams: Discussion on how opportunity, role, and system impact WR numbers.
• Memorable exchange: “Why bring me in and not use me? What am I doing here? Veteran presence, leadership? Come on, you got… I don’t want to steal money. I want to earn what you’re paying me.” — Chad (38:58)

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4. NFL’s Performance-Based Pay Program

(43:51 – 47:54)

• Announcement: Over $542 million will be distributed to players for the 2025 season, rewarding playing time versus salary.
• Standouts:
  • Nishan Wright ($1.4M), Ronnie Hickman ($1.3M), Elijah Wilkinson ($1.3M).
• Shannon: Highlights most recipients are late-round picks or undrafted: “There’s only one guy in the top 15 that made it as a first-round pick.” (45:17)
• Chad: Celebrates the program’s impact for lower-paid players.

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5. State Income Tax vs. NFL Salary Cap

(50:03 – 54:44)

• Prompted by: A trade sending Osa Odighizuwa from no-tax Texas to high-tax California.
• Shannon’s Proposal: Salary cap should adjust for state tax, as playing in California can mean “you making $30 million, you making $15 million.” (51:20)
• Discussion:
  • Florida, Texas, Tennessee, Nevada highlighted as player-friendly for no state tax.
  • Sharp, lighthearted take on “unhoused” (not “homeless”) and being politically correct: “We try to be as acceptable as we possibly can because…people be clipping stuff.” (53:35)

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6. Getting Players’ Names Right: Travis Etienne

(55:04 – 57:03)

• Travis Etienne Jr. corrects his name pronunciation:
  • Real pronunciation is “A-Chan,” not “ATN.”
  • “Growing up, Travis Hn. So...when I went to college, I kept telling my—telling them my name, like, every day, every day, every day...they just couldn’t get it. So I’m like, man, it’s ETN. Like, how you see it is how you say it.” (55:18)
• Discussion about correct names:
  • Other players with mispronounced names (e.g. Christian Braun, Robbie Gould).
  • Chad: “That’s pretty dope. I can’t wait—I’m sure I’m gonna see Travis. I would love to hear the backstory...” (57:27)

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7. Albert Breer’s Report: Maxx Crosby’s Raiders Future

(59:23 – 68:52)

• Team-Player Relationship: Crosby’s relationship with the Raiders is addressed after alleged trade rumors.
• Shannon: Emphasizes the business side, referencing trades/cuts of Jerry Rice, Emmitt Smith, and Peyton Manning.
  • “If Tom Brady can change teams, if Aaron Rodgers can change teams…what chance do you got?” (66:43)
• Crosby’s own quote: “If I acted off the field the way I do on the field, I’d be in prison...the second I’m off, I can turn it off just like that...I can’t be like I am on the field all the time, or I’d be in prison.” (65:57)
• Shannon’s experience: Recalls almost being traded, recognizing the shock and ego-hit that comes when your longtime organization considers moving on: “All the all-pro teams, I done made, all these Pro Bowls…and you say you better without me?” (67:13)
• Chad: Wistfully discusses being traded near the end of his Cincinnati tenure: “If I could be a one-jersey team, if I could do it again, I would have stayed.” (69:32)

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8. Other Memorable Quotes and Segments

• On Getting Older as an Athlete:
  • “In our minds, we’re the last one to see it…we still holding on, Ocho.” — Shannon (38:43)
• On Political Correctness and Social Media:
  • “You have to say unhoused…trust me, I got people in my ear constantly reminding, ‘Shannon, this is what you can say, this is what you can’t say.’” (52:53)
• On the Mundane (and Meta Glasses):
  • “I always use politically correct terms—even when I’m in the barbershop, I don’t know if I’m being recorded.” — Shannon (54:44)
• Ocho’s Annual Wide Receiver Workshop:
  • Open invitation to the NFL’s best and brightest young receivers, promising mentorship and hands-on work: “If you’re a receiver that you want to get better, go down to Ocho’s workshop.” (49:45)

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9. Lighthearted NBA Sidebar

(71:12 – 75:54)

• Lakers defeat Rockets; Shannon and Chad debate contenders’ chances.
• Quick takes on MVP race (Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Jokic, LeBron, Luka).

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• “If he can’t have success here, where can he have success?” — Shannon Sharpe (12:44)
• “At some point in time, you’re not doing your job.” — Shannon Sharpe on Fields’ accountability (15:09)
• “I hate when they do this to us. Once you hit your 30s, they weed you out.” — Chad Johnson (28:28)
• “Why bring me in and not use me? What am I doing here? Veteran presence, leadership? I don’t want to steal money. I want to earn it.” — Chad Johnson (38:58)
• “Salary cap should take state tax into account…You making $30 million, you making $15 million.” — Shannon Sharpe (51:20)
• “Growing up Travis Hn. So it’d be like a C-H-A-N-E…At college, I kept correcting people…so I’m like, man, it’s ETN…But I’m very much open to being Travis A-Chan again, just being myself.” — Travis Etienne Jr. (55:18)
• “If I acted off the field the way I do on the field, I’d be in prison… the second I’m off, I can turn it off just like that.” — Maxx Crosby via Albert Breer (65:57)
• “If Tom Brady can trade. Change teams…what chance you got?” — Shannon Sharpe (66:43)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Justin Fields trade & analysis: 07:57 – 18:33
• Parental commitments debate: 18:33 – 23:47
• DeAndre Hopkins discussion: 24:06 – 39:03
• Performance-based pay discussion: 43:51 – 47:54
• State tax & salary cap talk: 50:03 – 54:44
• Pronouncing NFL names right: 55:04 – 57:03
• Maxx Crosby & Raiders future: 59:23 – 68:52
• NBA sidebar (Lakers): 71:12 – 75:54

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Summary

This lively Nightcap episode demonstrates why Club Shay Shay continues to be a must-listen for NFL fans. With authentic player perspectives (both hosts are NFL legends themselves), they blend player stories, league business realities, and playful banter, all while touching on hot-button topics for both current players and fans alike. The conversation flows naturally, delivering insight, experience, humor, and straight talk, making complex NFL news accessible and engaging.

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Which one?

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[Chad Johnson]

The baby birthday was the day.

[Shannon Sharpe]

See? So when did you find. When did you find out the baby's birthday was? Today. Was that before or after you asked Joe to get them tickets?

[Chad Johnson]

No, we had to celebrate the day because I got a flight in the morning. I gotta. I gotta. I gotta work.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, Chad, Y' all get on me. Man up. Don't want to do anything with. Oo. This is why you spend 5, $10,000 for a. A pair of tickets. And then all of a sudden he say, what is the baby birthday?

[Chad Johnson]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. We. We talk. We talk about the Atlanta hawks. Ain't nothing. 5, $10,000 over there for courtside.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How much you think them tickets cost?

[Chad Johnson]

Of course, for Joe Johnson free.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, they're not free for Joe. I'm sorry. He might get them. He might get them at a better price than what the average fan would get them. They're not free for Joe.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, but, hey, hey, listen to me. But my daughter birthday is tomorrow, right? So I had to celebrate. I had to celebrate the day Cha Cha, she's turning. She's turning 11, and I have a flight to New York in the morning because I have to do the late run the. The soccer podcast tomorrow. I got the. The MLS commissioner. Yep, I got the MLS commissioner tomorrow, which is pretty dope. Pretty dope. And two of the Red Bull players. Tuesday, Tuesday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So let me ask you this. When did you realize you're gonna have to celebrate Cha Cha's birthday a day earlier?

[Chad Johnson]

Well, Mama. That was Mama's idea. Say, hey, listen, we're gonna have to push this up because she had the tournament to get ready for this weekend coming up, so she had to have a fun today and tomorrow. I'm gonna miss tomorrow, so I had to do it today.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So y' all say, I'm talking about chat, but y' all get what? Man, there you go, right there. The Chiefs found that newest backup quarterback to Patrick Mahomes today. They agreed to send a 2027 draft pick to the jets to acquire Justin Fields. Fields wanted to continue his career in Kansas City, although there were other teams interested in acquiring him. Per Adam Schefter. To facilitate the trade, the jets are paying 7 million of the 10 million dollar guaranteed contract of 2026. Kansas City will pay the remaining 3 million. Mahomes is rehabbing after having surgery in December to repair repair a torn ACL and an LCL in his left knee. OO we were talking about this because the reports had come out that the Chiefs were possibly interested in Russell Wilson.

[Chad Johnson]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now that we know they're going away from Russell Wilson and turning to Justin Fields.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You like this? Are you surprised by this? What are your thoughts about this?

[Chad Johnson]

I mean I, I kind of like it because I'll go back to what did Justin Fields look like when he's with the Pittsburgh Steelers? What he looked like when he had an actual starting job. I don't want to base anything. A small symbol size. What we saw Justin Fields with New York jets because nobody does well over there. Nobody does well over there because from top to bottom it's not run the right way. But what is with the Steelers? A competent organization that that is used to winning. Obviously he looked somewhat good until Russell Wilson got healthy and then he had to come, he had, he had to sit down. If I'm not mistaken, Justin Field went 4 and 2 and the sixth game that he did start. So I think with Andy Reed and B and some of the, some of the weapons they do have over there. If Justin Fields has to be the quarterback until Paxton Mahomes is healthy, I'm okay with that because I understand what he will look like when he has the right supporting cast around him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I mean I like this. Andy loves mobile quarterbacks. Remember what he did. He, Donovan was mobile but then he got Michael Vick who was even more mobile than Donovan McNow and he had success with that. So I'm not surprised. Obviously Justin Fields is a lot more mobile than Patrick Mahomes and he's going to be a lot more mobile than Patrick Mahomes coming off this knee injury. But I agree with what you had to say is that given this system given to and Andy's quarterback whisper for, for the quarterbacks, it's hard for me to see that if Justin Fields has to play two, three games that he won't have a level of success. Understanding that, you know, hey, they do a great job of making sure you get the ball out of your hands quick. They run a lot of Jailbreak screens. They believe they can run the ball a lot better to take some pressure off of the passing game. That's why they went out and signed Kenneth Walker K9 in free agency to relieve some of the passing game pressure because the as mahomes to drop back and continuously to throw, throw, throw. You're putting him so you're putting yourself in harm's way. I don't think they're done yet. Oh, they got, they got a top 15 pick and they got the 29th pick from the Rams. They got two first round picks. Don't know quite know the direction that they're going to head in in those. Do they trade both of those picks and move into the top 10, top 5? I'm not sure about that. But I, I kind of like this. But I, I will say this. If he can't have success here, where can he have success at Ocho?

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, well, listen, if going, going to Kansas City, if you, if you look at the starting quarterbacks and obviously the backups that have been there that they had to go in and fill in for the starters, they've always had success. Huh? They've always had success. And Andy Reid, when it comes, I'm not calling him the quarterback whisperer, but all quarterbacks he's worked with and coach, they've all, they've all had success. So I expect him because of what he has around him to have success. And what I like about him is he can throw the ball, but he also adds that dynamic of being a dual threat as well. So I'm sure they're going to play to his strengths to make sure he can keep that ship afloat while he's in.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, that's what you're going to have to do. Obviously, defensively, we'll see what they're going to do. Defensively, they lost a lot of guys, both of the starting corners, starting safety. So that's three starters off the defense. They restructured Chanel contract. They'll probably do something with Jones's contract. Defensively they're not the same. They don't get out, they don't attack the quarterback the same way they once did. They're not that spag still wants to pressure when he feels threatened. You get close to his end zone, he's going to bring pressure and teams were prepared for that and they made him pay for some of that this year. But I like this Justin Fields. Hopefully he can figure it out because look, we, we, we throw everything again, we throw everything out the window that he did with the jets, because like you said, the jets are not a very well organization and they don't have the best pieces. Okay, you want, we're gonna throw out Chicago at some point in time. We got to stop throwing out stuff at some point in time. Hey, the baby just dirty. We can't just keep throwing our bath waters. Not a baby dirty.

[Chad Johnson]

Right, right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And in this situation, at some point in time, Ocho, we're gonna have to say, hey, we're gonna have to put some of this on Justin Fields. I agree. I think the Jets, I don't think the jets did him any favors. I think Chicago, there are some things that he could have done better like understand protection and be able to redirect the protection so you don't become vulnerable. If they don't do it, you should be well enough, thoughtful enough as a quarterback to say, hell no. Y' all lizzing this. Nah, rip this. Let me, Hey, I want to be able to see or if it's a rip protection, liz it so I can see the blitz coming because I'm a right handed quarterback. But at some point in time, Ocho, we got to start holding these players accountable. We can't keep blaming organization, organization, organization. There are some bad run organizations, I will concede that, but you can't go to 15 organizations that every last one of them are run poorly.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

At some point in time, you're not doing, you're not doing your job.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. I mean, I can only base it off what he did at the last organization he was at where I thought he was going to. Obviously I don't have to look over my shoulder. Finally I get a team where they have to worry about anyone taking my job. But unfortunately that job was the New York jets. And I'm not sure when the last time they've actually had success because top to bottom, you know how it is. I don't need to say anything. I mean no disrespect, you know, to anyone that plays for New York jets, but it is what it is. It is what it is. So Justin Fields, seeing what he looked like when he's with the Steelers with a competent organization that has run the correct way from top to bottom. I saw what he looked like, the small symbol, size we saw with him there. I know exactly what he's going to give you when he's with the Kansas City Chiefs.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And it doesn't take much because Andy's system is very quarterback friendly. You look at the success that Alex Smith had in that system, you look at Donald McNabb in that system. You look at Michael Vick in that system, you look at my homeboy in that, my homeboy as an outlier. So he gonna look good in any system. That's Patrick Mahomes. He's a, you can make a case that he's a top five, top six quarterback as we currently sit here and speak. Ocho. So he's an outlier. But if you look at other quarterbacks, Alex Smith was mobile. People, I mean, I, I know, you know, you look at his before he got hurt. Yeah, he was mobile. Oh, you watch him in San Francisco and how he can move. They would move the pocket with Alex Smith. Yeah, you look at him in Kansas City, they would move the pocket. He was very, very mobile. And so I think hopefully Justin Fields can have this level of success. And, and, and you see what he did. Andy came there and you got Mahomes and then Alex Smith was able to go to the commanders and you know, he ended up messing up his leg. But hopefully Justin Fields can have success. I thought he could be good. Watching him at Ohio State, sometimes you get a false sense because when you got five, six first round wide receivers, Ocho, you get a little false system. Like, well, damn, is he that good? But you know, we look at what he was throwing to. He got a lobby and he got Garrett Wilson and you know, he got all those guys like, well, damn. But he's got, he's going to have to play better because I agree. I, I think Ocho, people are more in your camp. The jets are a bad situation. Chicago didn't surround him with anything. Pittsburgh, he seemed to be heading in the right direction.

[Chad Johnson]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But they never committed. They committed to Russell Wilson. Russell got hurt in training camp and you know, Mike Tomlin never committed. Like, well, if Russell gets healthy, this is still Justin Field job. He didn't make, he didn't make that declaration. So I was surprised, I think a lot of people were surprised that, that when Russ got healthy that he went to Justin Fields, considering how well feels. But this is an insurance policy. It only cost him $3 million. The jets picking up, you know, $7 million of that, of the 10 million that he's guaranteed. And so hopefully it works out for him this time around.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, hey, listen, that's a good team to be around too. That's a good team to be around. Obviously, that atmosphere, that winning atmosphere and being able to learn behind Mahomes once he does get back, just in case the opportunity presents itself again. But Justin Fields be the quarterback of a team Somewhere else. Just. Just being able to take some of the attributes that he's learned from Mahomes and. And that system will. Will be tremendous for him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But here's the thing, Ocho. You know this. Now what happened if you don't do well in Andy's system, they gonna say,

[Chad Johnson]

yeah, it get tough there. It get tough after that. It get real tough. It get real slim after that,

[Shannon Sharpe]

man. Pojo, can we put this up? Yeah, we're gonna put this up. I feel bad too.

[Chad Johnson]

Feel bad for who?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Joe?

[Chad Johnson]

What happened?

[Shannon Sharpe]

He up there at the game by himself.

[Chad Johnson]

He wasn't by himself.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he was.

[Chad Johnson]

Hold on here. I'mma let you. I'm. I'mma let you. I'm going let you argue with the mother of my child.

[Shannon Sharpe]

See, there you go.

[Chad Johnson]

Why you trying to play somebody else? I'm. Hey, I'm going to let you argue with her.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ain't no arguing going the chat. Ocho. You see, Ocho, this don't need to be no discussion. Ocho know his. He know with all his kids birthday. He knows if he's out of town, he's gonna contact the mom and say, we need to move this up because I'm gonna be out of town.

[Chad Johnson]

How you gonna tell her? What? How you gonna tell her what to do?

[Shannon Sharpe]

What she told you what to do

[Chad Johnson]

if she say, I need you here today. I'm here today.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, well, so what? But Ocho, you had made plans.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, Unc, I don't give a about no plans if my child birthday is here.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, you should have did that. What? You should have did that with Joe.

[Chad Johnson]

I talked to Joe already. What are you talking about? I talked to Joe earlier today. Now y' all don't piss me off about my goddamn child. It's her birthday.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ojo, Ojo, how you getting ticked off? Because you put this. You put this request in four months ago.

[Chad Johnson]

Listen, man, I send that man his money for a ticket. Y' all acting like it's that goddamn serious. I said it's my child birthday. Anybody don't like it, you know what the f you could do now that's the last I'm gonna say about it,

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho.

[Chad Johnson]

I know. Wait, wait. I know. I play around a lot. My child birthday is tomorrow. I have to get on the flight at 9am Therefore, Mama asked me to stay in town today so you could do something with her. Because I'm gonna be gone the rest of the week till Sunday. That's all. That's all?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, that's all I talk.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, wait no, let me finish. I talked to Joe earlier today. I say, Joe, I'm not going to be able to make it because I have obligations with the little one. They move what she had to do up because she has to prepare for a tennis tournament this weekend. That's all. Now we make it a little bit more complicated than we should. It's a serious matter. You're telling me about a basketball game versus my child. Daughter. My daughter's birthday.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho, you the one that recommended you go to the game. He didn't broke the subject to what's

[Chad Johnson]

name to go to the game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, what are we arguing about saying you the right thing by staying for your child's birthday. So why are we even making an expression? Me? No one is saying, oh, oo, now how you gonna go to a game? Can I ask you something?

[Chad Johnson]

When you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, when you.

[Chad Johnson]

When you have something to do important, do I say anything? No, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't. So why y' all making a big thing?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho, but hey, hey, something.

[Chad Johnson]

We talk about a bag. We talk about a basketball game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, we. Ocho. But here, this is why. And chat. Now you understand? This is why I don't commit. Because things come up and to make that commitment. That's why when people say, Shannon, can you do this? Shannon, can you go there? I can't commit because I got so many things going on that I don't know. So even though Shelly has my schedule six weeks, two months in advance, something might come up just like that. And I can't, I can't afford to do it.

[Chad Johnson]

That has nothing to do with anything at all right now. That had nothing to do with anything. Hey, I need you here for your child's birthday. We gotta move it up. Her birthday's tomorrow, so we had to move it up. Cause I got flowers.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why you couldn't move it back?

[Chad Johnson]

Move it back where?

[Shannon Sharpe]

The birthday. When is the birthday?

[Chad Johnson]

How about her birthday's tomorrow? Okay, so I'm not here tomorrow. My flight's at 9 o' clock in the morning.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hold on, Ocho. Okay, how about this? Here, Happy birthday.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, hold on. Hey, matter of fact, matter of fact, I'mma give you your number so you could explain to her.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, why you got to do all this to me?

[Chad Johnson]

Because, because, because we, we're. We're making it more than what it really is. We talk about a basketball game. You acting like I'm. I'm supposed to be at the goddamn White House or something.

[Shannon Sharpe]

O. Come on. Oh, happy birthday, Man. I'm just saying. I was just saying. Ocho, come on man. But I understand. Ocho, I understand. I'm talking to somebody.

[Chad Johnson]

I don't play when it comes to my kids. I don't care what I got to do. I don't, I don't care. And anybody don't like it, you know what time it is. I mean no disrespect, no, no disrespect to the chat and, and you. I'm just saying some people trying to make jokes and hehe haha he he ha ha hell.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Chad, what y' all thinking? Chad, y' all left. He left jonesed up.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, see, see how you still go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

As a matter of fact, as a matter of fact, give me, give me, give me. Give me your child. Give, give, give me your co parent number. I want to talk to her.

[Chad Johnson]

Hold on, hold on. Let me call, let me call R N now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We don't need to talk. We need to go. We fit to move on. DeAndre Hopkins says he felt underutilized this season, especially in the red zone. First, a Ravens fan tweeted his one handed catch in week one versus the bill, saying if the Ravens are in the market for a veteran wide receiver.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Which I suspect they are. They should do a deal to bring DeAndre Hopkins back to Baltimore. What a catch this was. In response D. Hopkins says how many times after this do you Think I was used in the red zone when targeted. I'm still one of the best, still one of the most productive but never complain with my snaps and never will. Facts D Hop, who's 33, finished the season with 22 catches, 330 yards and only two touchdowns.

[Chad Johnson]

Oo I hate, I hate when they do this to us.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Go ahead, go ahead, talk to I

[Chad Johnson]

hate when they do this to us. Hey Chat. I hate when you, when you reach your 30s. As great as DeAndre Hopkins was as, as much as what I know he can, he can do and, and provide for offense, especially one like the Baltimore Ravens and to and to be underutilized, understanding how good he is in one on one situations, in goal line situations, 50, 50 balls turning it, turning to 90, 10. When it comes to him, when it comes to making contested catches, all you got to do is just throw it in the vicinity. He has hands like Larry from Gerald. I'm not sure what his drop rates wouldn't jump his drop percentage is but I'm sure it's up there with some of the best in the NFL like Chris Carter and Larry from Gerald. Once you hit your 30s, they continue to weed you out obviously on the team. They don't use you as much obviously because they, they more so use the young Bulls and the young bucks that they do have. But he's such an extreme talent even at 33. I understand the production that he can have, but it's just I hate that they weed you out. I mean it happened, it happened to all of us. Huh. Julio Jones. You know, I can go down the list of all the great receivers that were great at one time and they go to teams and, and they're underutilized just because of age and that's the way they weed you out in general. And at some point it's going to come to a point where the game is so young, where there's no more opportunities left for you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho, you know this once you start going every year is year to year, you're only going to be there one year.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The likelihood of them bringing you back. You saw what happened. He went to Kansas City and he went over here and he went over there. He might as well get accustomed to if he wants to stay for an extended period of time.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Just says, you know what, I'm a hired gun. I'm here one. It's a temp service. Anybody that's in the, in the chat know about a temp service? Yeah, you're there temporarily. He's going to be on these teams temporarily. They're not looking for DeAndre Hopkins to be a long term solution. Yeah, he might believe he can, and I don't have any reason to believe that he can. But I'm saying they're not going to give you those opportunities because they don't intend for you to be there after the time in which you are there, which is basically the football season.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, I hate that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It is what that oo that's what it is.

[Chad Johnson]

I know, I know. I, I hate the way that business works like that. Especially when you have a player that is really good at where they do. I mean, really good at what they do and really good at what they've done. But again, the opportunity, the opportunities decrease. I, I, I, I hate that. I hate that. If you give him the opportunities like he had when he was at Houston and put him in position to make those plays, he can still make those plays. But obviously this is the way the business does.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Most of them, I don't know if they'll ever be the Ocho, they don't do that with, they don't do that to Dante. They don't put him in position like he was in Green Bay because it's Puka's team.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh yeah, they're not going to put

[Shannon Sharpe]

him in that because even though we, even though Zay Flowers is 5, 8, 5 9, whatever the case, he's the number one receiver, he's getting those opportunities and the two tight ends, they're going to get second and third priority and then probably Rashawn Bateman, he's going to get fourth Friday. So by at at best case, on the absolute best case scenario.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

D Hop is the fifth option.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, but see, and you already know

[Shannon Sharpe]

the fifth option, Ocho, you already know,

[Chad Johnson]

hey, very seldom, very seldom. But why even bring him in, huh? Why, why even, why even bring them in? It makes no sense to me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, because they know they're not going to use him in the capacity that in order to maximize him, you're going to have to use him in the capacity. And I don't know, I don't think, look, he's saying use him in the red zone and I think he still can be a valuable, a viable option in the red zone. But they're more apt to run the ball and when they do throw it, I mean, he had him a couple of times. I mean, Lamar missed him a few times, but for the most part they're not putting him in situations where he can succeed.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Which is the red zone. He's, oh, he's never been a guy that had blinding speed. So he's, he's, he's even less fast than he was when he came into the league, but he still has great hands. He still has a huge catch radius. So that's why he's saying, give me in the red zone, give me some opportunities, let me high point the ball. Back shoulder me. Yeah, all those things I can still do at elite level. Go ahead.

[Chad Johnson]

I say. And this, this is the difference between the Ravens offense and how. You mentioned devonte Adams, right? Yeah, he, he led the NFL in touchdowns, if I'm not mistaken. He had.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson]

They throw the ball so much over there and devonte Adams is still Hood, obviously still the, he's actually still the best route runner in the league. Obviously throw a bomb. Ross St. Brown in there as well, who's mainly in the slot. But on that, when it comes to outside receivers and it comes to running routes, devonte is still that guy, which is why his numbers look the way they did and they throw the ball so goddamn much over there in la. So I think that, that, that also, it, it kind of hurts being the fifth option down there in Baltimore.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It does. But plus you looking at Matthew Stafford, how many back shoulders has he thrown to Calvin Johnson? So now he gets a guy that's not as big as Calvin Johnson but can throw the back shoulder. It's just automatic. Devonte is one of the back shoulders, best back shoulder catchers in all of football.

[Chad Johnson]

Especially with Aaron Rodgers.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Him and Aaron, you can't stop it because if you're behind him, he gonna throw it over the top. If you're on top of me, gonna throw it behind you. So I'm like you, you're like, okay, well damn coach, what you want me to do? And like you said, he's still an elite route runner. Yes, he still can get it done. And, but it's, but they, they, they're two different receivers people don't look at. People still believe that Devonte, that's why he's making max dollars. He's making 20, $25 million a year. $20 million a year because they still believe he's a viable option. That at worst case scenario he can be a 2, possibly a 1 if Puka goes out. Remember at Jacksonville ocho, he had three touchdowns. How many games we see him with? Three, two touchdowns. He, I mean he got 14 touchdowns and he missed a couple of games. Yeah, he's still the guy. He's still, he's a, some guys Are just touchdown magnets to and Randy, Chris, Carter, Jerry, those guys. I get another guy, uh, uh, Antonio Gates. Man, I can never score like Gates. I don't know. I mean, like, I'm like, damn. I said, man, I'll be watching games. I'm like, well, damn. I had retired when he became what he became. And I'm looking at him, I'm like, damn. They get the ball down the red. They get down to 10, they throwing it to him and they like, we'll go get open option away. They run zarro route. They run options they won stick. They run choice. I'm like, well, damn. But some guys can just score, have that ability to just score the damn football. They have that ability. Ocho, you and I were yardage guys. We gonna get yardage. We might have six for a buck 20 and no touchdown. Somebody else gonna come along and have three for 75 and two touchdowns. But. But that's the way it is. I know he's, he's frustrated, but once you start bouncing around. Ocho, he's in Kansas City and you remember he was at the, he was in Tennessee, now he's in Baltimore. And that. It's just, it's just a matter if, if I'm him and I wanna, and I wanna, you know, stay in the

[Chad Johnson]

league, would you hang. Would you hang it up?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Knock him? Nope, not complaining.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, he, he never complained before. He doesn't even. Hell, D Hop don't even talk.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what I'm saying.

[Chad Johnson]

Unless you know him personally and you actually have a conversation with him. He remind me of Troy, Paloma, Lou, or remind me of Chris Henry, you know, God, God rest in peace. Individuals that play the game. And you never ever hear them talk. I think the last time I heard D Hop talk is seeing him in person. And then obviously when him and goddamn d' Angelo hall got into it. Was that hard?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's. That practice. That's crazy.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, man. Hey, they was. That's. That's the first time I ever heard him talk.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So it. Look, I think the wide receivers in that type of a system, the likelihood of them having. Ocho, they're not about to have no 10, 12 touchdowns like you see Devonte and some of these other receivers, that's. That's not their offense. Their offense is not like that. Yeah, it's a spread it around offense. You know, the tight ends might have. Between the two of them might have seven, eight touchdowns. Between the two of them, they might have four or five touchdowns the back's gonna have a couple of touchdowns. But they're not, they're not a guy. They're not like Devonte gonna have eight. One guy gonna have 18 touchdowns.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

And I mean that. That's not, that's not their offense.

[Commercial Announcer]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

And there's nothing wrong with that. Because if you think it had been interesting to see. Give me when. When Lamar had 41 touchdowns. Let's see the distribution of what. How it was spread out. Because. Somebody's gonna have. When somebody, when a quarterback throws for a bunch of touchdowns, somebody's gonna have 15. Somebody gonna have 14. 15 to 18. You look at when, when you remember Ocho, remember Joe Burrow a couple of years ago? Oh, yeah. We led the league. Chase had 17.

[Chad Johnson]

Had 17. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, you ain't fit to have no two guys with 17. The quarterback gonna throw for 70 touchdowns then.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

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Mark Andrews, 11,

[Shannon Sharpe]

Isaiah likely, six. So Andrews had 11. Bateman had nine. Like, likely had six.

[Chad Johnson]

Wait, Bateman had nine last year?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, that was a, that was a quiet nine.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you see one guy double figures, one guy almost in double figures, and then you have 11, 9, 6, 4, and then it spread out, duck down to the running back. You know, Henry might have had two, and then Mitchell might have had one or two, something like that. So I, I, look, I, I, I, I get his. I get his. I get his frustration. In our minds, we're the last. We're the last one to see it, Ocho. We're absolutely the last one to see it starts to, to dissipate. We still, we still holding on, Ocho. We still, we still remember what we used to be, Ocho.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, but, hey, but, but you know what? Even if he's a shell of himself, that shell of himself is still good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, it is.

[Chad Johnson]

It's still good. And you mentally, you feel like you can still do it. You just understand, just give me the opportunities.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson]

Just give me the opportunities.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Why bring me in and not use me? What am I doing here? Veteran presence, leadership.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep.

[Chad Johnson]

Come on, you got, you got. I don't want. I don't want to steal money. I want to earn what you're paying me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, Ocho, you know, we get older, you know, your boy used to aim. I put the hammer down, you know what I'm saying? I put the hammer down on show. Now I'll be sweating for no reason. Damn. Hell yeah. I mean, you know what I'm saying?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yo. You know, hey, it happens when you younger. Hey, now they getting up. They cleaning up the house. They washing a load of clothes. I mean, well, damn, y' all got that kind of injury? Yeah, I'm sprawled. Hey, Ocho, they got crime scene tape around me. I date. They don't. They wash two loads of clothes. They up there cooking. They do it. I'm like, well, God dang. Oh, man. Hey, I know I ain't the only one y' all laughing. I know ain't only one chat. I'm just saying. I mean, It ain't used to be like that. Low.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

The NFL announced today that over $542 million will be given to NFL players in performance based pay following the 2025 season. The performance based pays program is collectively bargaining benefit that compensates all players based on playing time and salary levels. Quarterback Nishan Wright led the way $1.4 million in in performance based play. Ronnie Hickman 1.3 million offensive tackle who was just he was with Atlanta last year. I think he's with Arizona now. Elijah Wilkinson has $1.3 million. They top the list as you can see the list right there in front of you. So a lot of these guys are probably lower round picks. Ocho, right? Well, I mean on bargain contracts.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And they play a lot. They playing 75, 80, 90 of the snaps and this is what you get.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey that's, that's a good thing too because most of the guys that are getting these incentives, they probably don't have big salaries huh? Not yet.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. So this, this is big. This is big for them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You, you look at Ronnie Hickman, undrafted free agent. Elijah Alexander, undrafted free agent. Nick Scott, seventh round, seventh round, seventh round, undrafted free agent, fourth round, fourth round, fourth round, third round. Devin White was a first round pick, but that was in 2019, so he's not playing on a big contract.

[Chad Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Excuse me. Chat. So if you look at the guys there are, there's only one guy that's in the top 15 that made that was a first round draft pick. Everybody else was between third round and an undrafted free agent. So that's a, that's a good little money. That's a good little money right there. Oh, yeah, I think that came in like when I was like my last two years. Ocho, you know, I got a quick little hunter. A little hunter something.

[Chad Johnson]

Wait, hold on, wait. You got a quick. Did you buy your incentives?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, this, this, this.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, I went back on a minimum contract.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I just wanted to go back. I didn't want, I ain't want to start. I didn't want to go to the Raiders. I didn't want to go to Seattle. That's too far. My kids were young. That was 2,020 and 2.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So my kids have been 10 and 11, and they're gonna be traveling from Atlanta. And to have my mom, if my mom would, had to fly down from Chicago, pick the kids up. My sister have to pick. I say, nah, it's too much.

[Chad Johnson]

It's too much.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, my girl, my girls could, my girlfriend could, you know, fly down one stop, go pick them up, you know. Nah, I, I, I, I had to think about the kids. Then it wasn't about me making. Yeah, I could have made a little bit more money, but Ocho, forget being a Pro Bowl. I'm trying to make the top 25 base team. I mean, if you made the Pro Bowl. Whoo. Look at this, man.

[Chad Johnson]

What happened? What happened, what happened?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm just looking at this money. They joke, these joker making Ocho 1 on top of your contract.

[Chad Johnson]

Who, who? Hey, who, who? At the top?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nishan wright, he made 1.4.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ronnie Hickman made almost 1.3. Elijah Wilkinson, almost 1.3. Yeah. A lot of seventh round draft picks in that thing. And undrafted. Yeah, they were what, two. There were three undrafted free agents, three seventh round draft picks. And most of, most of the other guys in the top 15 were third or fourth round picks. Like I said, only Devin White was a first round draft pick and that was way back in 2019. So obviously he's not on that. That type of a contract. Currently probably play on a minimum contract or slightly above minimum and plus incentives if he led the team in tackles, if he top five, top, you know, led the league in tackles, tackles for loss, or things of that nature. But congratulations, guys. Hey. Now it's like, hey, Nishan Wright gonna get paid, though. He about to get. He gonna get a big contract. Oh, yeah, he played. He played his tail off.

[Chad Johnson]

He nice. He nice. Hey, we. You know what? Now that we on the. I want to interject real quick now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Go ahead.

[Chad Johnson]

On the topic of. We're on the topic of football, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson]

Have a question. The next topic is still football. Are we going on to something else?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, we're still talking football.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay. Just in, in between. Real quick. Hey, Chad, I need you to do me a favor. I need y' all to clip what I'm getting ready to say. My wide receiver workshop is coming up. Right on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson]

I had all the young bulls last year. We're doing it in April because we don't want to interfere with obviously their vacation time. And obviously World cup is going to be here. So ain't no telling where people gonna be. And I, I need you receivers, I need you people in the chat. If you can clip this at some point and make sure, send it to them. I'm going to send them their own formal invite, but I need them at the wide receiver workshop. Jamar Chase and T. Higgins, they were here last year. JSN was here last year. Tyreek Hill, depending on where you at, I need you. Cortland Sutton, Jerry Judy Jaden, Reed Tankdale, Elijah Moore, CD Lamb. I don't bother you much. Come on home. Aman Ross, St. Brown, Justin Jefferson, Malik neighbors. I'm not sure how rehab is going. Please, please. It'd be an honor to have you come down with the fellas, man. Chris Godwin, Chris Olave, Mike Evans. If you're on the west coast, I will fly you back to the east coast. Your presence is needed. Nico Collins, please. Jalen Water, you right down the street. Ain't no excuses. A.J. brown, Brian Thomas Jr. Devonte Smith, George Pickens. Huh? Let's finish that conversation in person, please. Puka Nakua, Zay Flowers, you already here at home. Mike Wilson, Keon Coleman, Luther Burden, Roma Dunze, Xavier Leggett. If there's anybody that I left off this list of receivers I would like at my wide receiver workshop this year, you are Welcome. I can't. I can't say everybody's name. But please, I beg of you. Let's get together.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You'll receive it that you want to get better, go down to Ocho's workshop.

[Chad Johnson]

Come on. Come on now. Please. That. That. That just. That's just a list of names off the top of my head that I wrote down. And I look forward to seeing all y' all boys. The formal invite. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm gonna send out to your agents. I know y' all got a lot of moving parts and moving pieces, but I look forward to seeing all y'.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All. There something. The salary cap should take state tax into account. The sparks come from the trade that defensive tackle Osi Odigazua from the Cowboys and the Tech in Texas, where there's no state income tax, and he was traded to the 49ers in California, where they have the highest state income tax. So you go from 0 to 13.3%. The real question is whether teams should get more to spend, given there's more what's paid and end up being taken off the state government. The numbers are significant. The salary cap in 2026 is $301,000,000.2. So the Rams, Chargers and 49ers with a 13% bump would push the cap to 341.2. So in other words, so if you look at. If you look at that, if you were to bump it down. So because the state taxes, that's 13%. So if you make $30 million, your contract is $30 million in the state of California. Uncle Sam taking 13.3% from. Before you even see it, that's state. So now when we kick that federal in there, which is 36%, so they splitting your money 50. 50. So you making 30 million, you making 15 million.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, that's nasty work, boy. That's nasty work, boy. That west coast, if you play in New York, I think New York is like that too, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I think New York, New York, New Jersey, they're around 10. You know, there's some states that's a little. Obviously a little higher than others, but if you want to play in Florida, you want to play in Texas, Ohio, Tennessee, where there's no state income tax. Nevada, there's no state. Arizona, I think it's like 2%. But then, you know, most of the states are somewhere, anywhere between, you know, five. Just say five, and like, it's California, 13.3. And then California trying to. Trying to even bubble higher. And for what, what am I getting for that? Private. Still bad homelessness. Oh, excuse me. You can't say homelessness. The unhoused problem is still extremely bad. Oh. So I got, we got to be correct because people be kind of calling in, trying to get us, try to get us canceled. The unhoused community is. The, the, the, the, the is getting out of control. So we go, we got to be politically correct because we know y' all be clipping stuff and then y' all try to spin it. So this is what we're going to do. We're going to speak in only political correct terms so we can avoid this foolishness. So the unhoused or the physical limited, which means the disabled community, that's what we're going to do moving forward.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay. Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, you cannot say homelessness. You have to say unhoused.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, I, I, I, I never knew that, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, you know, it's because, trust me, I got people in my air constantly, constantly reminding, Shannon, this is what you can say. Shannon, this is what you can't say.

[Chad Johnson]

Right? Okay. So, I mean, we don't, we don't touch those topics too often.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So, yeah, I mean, but you know, we just be talking like, okay, I mean, you know, without. So we use the term unhoused. You know, we talk to different. I talked to different, different demographics. I said, okay, what is acceptable? What is it acceptable? Had a conversation with Brad Williams, who's a, A little person. You, he little person is correct. Also, dwarf. You can't say the M word right.

[Chad Johnson]

He said, is that, is that offensive?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Dwarf. That is acceptable. Huh?

[Chad Johnson]

Is that offensive?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. If you say the N word, it is offensive to them.

[Chad Johnson]

That's crazy. I mean, I, I, okay, all right, I'll leave that alone.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So we just, we just, we, we try to be as acceptable as we possibly can because, you know, so like I said, ocho, you'd be surprised that we be talking. And I get off if people don't clip some of the things that I've said or what you said. And I already got it posted.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, well, you know, I, I'm, I'm, I've always had an unfiltered mouth. I've been this way since 1978. So normally when I say something, it's like, oh, that's ojo. Okay, next. Yeah, you, you, you're, you're more polished in that area and in some of the words you choose to use. I just been a potty mouth all my life.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, I think the thing is, is that you have to Understand, like, okay, when you're in the. Even. Even when I'm in the barbershop, I don't know if I'm being recorded, so I always use politically correct terms.

[Chad Johnson]

Damn. They be recording in the barbers. You know what? You know what I thought about? They got them glasses. What's the glasses called?

[Shannon Sharpe]

The meta.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, man. Hey, yeah, you got. You got to watch out for the meta glasses, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep. Yep. You do. So that's. So you just chat. Just be careful. Yeah, they. They looking ocho.

[Chad Johnson]

Yo.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Travis A. Chan Jr. Spoke to reporters on how to pronounce his last name. They were calling him ATN at Clemson, but it's Travis HN Jr. Take a listen to what he had to say.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay, so it.

[Travis A. Chan Jr.]

Growing up Travis Hn. So it'd be like a C H a N E. And that's how you always said Travis H. And when I went to college, I kept telling my. Telling him my name, like, every day. Every day, Every day. And like, after, like, four weeks, they just couldn't get it. So I'm like, man, it's etn. Like, how you see it is how you say it. So. And that's how that became. And it kind of took off because it was easy for the pronouncers to say it. I didn't have to just tell them. I didn't have to correct them every day to say my name. And just when I kind of just started learning more about my last name and how it came about and things like that, it just kind of stuck and made sense. But I'm very much open to being Travis A. Chan again, just being myself. I don't have to correct people here on how to say my name each and every day. And I kind of love that. And that's just. Just get back to me.

[Chad Johnson]

Wait a minute. So it's not Travis atn?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nope. It's HN because, remember, we had. We had a Chan from the Dolphins on dolphins, and we asked him, I said, what's the correct pronunciation? It's like Jackie Chan.

[Chad Johnson]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

A Chan.

[Chad Johnson]

A Chan. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So same thing. ATN is pronounced Hn.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, how did we come about that? What's the origin? What's the backstory on his name? Is it. It. For. For it to be spelled the way it is, but pronounced completely different from New Orleans?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You hear. You hear kind of like the Creole. And when he got to Clemson.

[Chad Johnson]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They kept. He told them what it was, but they. It doesn't. It doesn't. If you look at it in the way it's spelled. That doesn't look like it should say HN. It looks like it should say ATN.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So they called him Travis ATN Jr. Right. And it stuck, and he didn't correct them.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Robbie Gold. Robbie Gold used to be the kicker for the 49ers. They call him Robbie Gool when he was at Chicago.

[Chad Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That. You know, I know you guys have been calling me Robbie Goo for a while, but actually, my name is Robbie Gold.

[Chad Johnson]

Right. But why. Hey. Why he got the you in there, then?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, bro, don't start me that.

[Chad Johnson]

Listen, that's. That's pretty dope. That's pretty dope. I like it. I. I can't wait to. I'm sure I'm gonna see Travis.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

At some point. I would love to hear the backstory on the spelling and how, you know, his parents came about giving him that name.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. If, you know, like, the guy from the. The nuggets is pronoun. It's spelled broad, B, R, A, U, N. But it's pronounced Brown. Christian Brown. It's male. It looks like it should be Kristen Braun.

[Commercial Announcer]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But it's pronounced Christian Brown. So sometimes spelling and pronunciation doesn't go hand in hand.

[Chad Johnson]

No, not. Not at all. You know, I. I know very well because that. That spello. Cinco, man, that's. That's. That's. That's rough for me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So hopefully down there in New Orleans, he's from that area. Hopefully, everything will get corrected, and he'll be Travis. But that's what. That's. That's what it is. Ocho. So he's correcting people, he said. Hopefully. He says he doesn't think people have a problem pronouncing his name from. Because he's from that area. They're very familiar with that. I'm surprised it took him, what, five years to get that corrected. Yeah, normally, guys, you know, hey, they get that corrected as soon as possible. Here's the pronunciation. I guess they started. I guess they called him Te because, like, DK is the. The quilling. But he goes by DK because it's so hard to say. So he said, just call me dk, man. The.

[Chad Johnson]

Quit The. The quilling. What. What's the k. What's the quilling?

[Shannon Sharpe]

What DK is for the quilling. Metcalf.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay. Hey, I'm call. I'm calling him that from now on. The quilling.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Albert Brer wrote about the latest he's hearing on the Max Crosby future with the Raiders. Brer reported some of the fractured trust between Crosby and the Raiders was rebuilt organically last week when the team showed the five time Pro Bowler that it had his back and reaching out and offering him any help he needed after Ravens backed out. It won't hurt Clint Kubiak effort to build a culture to have someone like Crosby. If Crosby buys in and there's no reason to think that he won't, he has the potential to be what he's always wanted to be for the Raiders, a flag bearer and an agent of change.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, it sound good. I love the words.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Chad Johnson]

But after a situation like that and a team ships you off or lets you go and they bring you back, how you building trust?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look, we don't. Ocho. It's. Some people saying that he told him that he wanted out. Some people say he never said that they got an offer that they couldn't refuse. Two first round picks. They traded Michael Parsons for two first round picks. More times that there have been a lot of players traded for two first round picks. So it should be a, a badge of honor that somebody thought enough of you. They were offering two first rounders.

[Chad Johnson]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

For your services. Okay. Things didn't work out, so guess what? They brought him back.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We're happy to have you back. Ocho, behind this. Like I said, I don't know. I mean you hear a lot of things. He wanted to go, he didn't want to go, blah blah, blah. We don't really, I don't really know the extent, but I know this. Yes. Is that they got him back.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And if they tried to trade him again, he's not getting a first. Once somebody fails you on a physical, Ocho, it's hard to overcome that.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. That, that, that sucks too. The, the physical part, I mean that, that sucks. I hope he has a speedy recovery, gets back healthy and, and can do what he's always done. Be dominant, you know, at his, at his craft. I'm hoping Kubiak and the rest of the organization has a hell of a plan to not only with off season free agency, but the draft as well, to continue to, to build what they need necessary to be able to compete in that division. Because the Broncos have gotten better, the Chiefs have gotten better, and at some point the, the Raiders are going to have to catch up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. And I mean it's. Look, nobody want. I mean being traded, it's always nice. You know, I was potentially traded a couple of times. It didn't happen. Almost got traded to Green bay during the 99 season. Ended up breaking my Collarbone you. I did.

[Chad Johnson]

You mean you could have been with Brett Favre?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Had I not broke my collarbone, I would have been with Brett Favre. Almost got traded in the 95 off season to Arizona for Eric Swan. The Broncos was going to give their first round pick, which was number 15. Ended up being John Mobley, myself and Mike Pritchard for X1. That didn't go through right. So. And it's tough. It's like, damn, y' all really think y' all be better off without me. Just went to the Pro Bowl, Lo Cho, you know.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That was my 3, 94, 95, fourth consecutive Pro Bowl. I was two time first. I was two time All Pro. In that Spanish, they're like, yeah, you good, but we'd be better without you. Damn. That's what I said. See, that's exactly what. That's exactly what I said.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey. Hey. It's hard. Listen, I'm glad Max is happy. Obviously in the media, in the public, they always gonna say all the right things, but for sure, but that. It's just. You already know how dirty this business is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, for sure.

[Chad Johnson]

You guys have seen how this business operates many, many a times. Obviously players, they, they do what they can to save face by saying all the right things on camera, but behind closed doors, they know how the game goes. And I, it sucks. So I'm just hoping they do right by Max and he does, you know, his due diligence on getting healthy and getting back to doing what he does best.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's. That's the number one thing Ocho is to get healthy.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause we know he's healthy.

[Chad Johnson]

He hell hey, for he's a force to deal with, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He's a top five edge rusher, you know. Hey, I ain't taking nobody over Miles Garrett because I think Miles Garrett is the best defensive player in football. And I can make a case he's a top five player in all of football, regardless of position. Obviously, the quarterbacks hold a lot more valuable than a lot more value than any other position. But when you look at what Max Cross of Max Rob, what Miles Garrett can do in the run, tackle for losses, pressures, he's second to none. But like you said, Ocho, it's tough. It's almost like Ocho, we filed for divorce. And then we'll come on back, baby.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, I can't find nothing Hey, I can't find nothing else out there. Hey, I can't find nothing else out there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Come to find out you, you. You wasn't. You wasn't what he thought he was or she was what you thought she was, so come on back and accept them.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, after you. You can't trust after that, man. So.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. But it. Ocho, look at all the greats they traded. Joe Montana.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They cut Jerry. They cut Emmett. Come on. What are we doing here? That. That being released or being traded is beneath that. Could never. You better go back and check some of the historically great players that have been cut and traded. It happens. Y' all need to stop. Max Crossbow also said on his broadcast that he acted off the field the way he does on the field, he would be in prison. Crosby said, the second I put on my cleats and I'm across the line, I'm a different environment, and I'm. And I'm thinking about murdering everything in front of me. The second I'm off, I can turn it off just like that. And just because you have to. I can't be like I am on the field all the time, or I'd be in prison. He's a perfect guy. He's a perfect guy for the Raiders. Raiders.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. I mean, listen, I said that red hair.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, he's al. He would be. He would be like the old Ocho. The 70s Raiders wouldn't have a Tusak and Otis Sit Strunk and all those guys.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ben Davidson, Jack Tatum and. And all those. Perfect.

[Chad Johnson]

He. Perfect. Yeah. I said it before. I mean, I didn't think he wanted to be there, but if he is, I mean, they lose a huge piece of what their identity is. Mac Crosby is the identity. He represents everything that the Raiders are and always have been.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep.

[Chad Johnson]

I mean, so, I mean, it was. It was kind of weird. Kind of weird to see him go. But I was also happy he went. I wasn't happy he went to the goddamn Ravens, but, you know, but, I mean, hey, listen, it is what it is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So if Tom Brady can trade. Change teams. If Aaron Rodgers can change teams.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If you think about the greatest players, the greatest players can change teams.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What chance do you got? These guys got now? Brady didn't finish his career. Peyton Manning got released. Yeah. Y' all realize Peyton Manning got cut, right? Five MVPs.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Adrian Peterson, Emmett Smith. It happens. It's tough, though, Ocho. It really is, because it's a blow to your ego. I'm like, bro, all the All Pro teams, I done made all these. All these promos, DPO wise, and. And MVPs. And you say you saying that you, you better without me.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, you know what the problem is, too, with those MVPs, with those defensive player of the years, with those Pro Bowls, and maybe add your Super Bowls to it as well.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson]

But when I want to get that money off the books, huh? When I want to get that money off the books and I want to go somewhere, get something cheaper. Now, I might not get the production you bring me, but I can get half the production and try to make up for it in other areas.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When they get fed up, they fed up. It's really that simple, Ocho. You see, they're eating 100 million or two. They're paying two of them to $60 million. Now you go and play for somebody else. It happens. The greatest from Randy to, to Jerry, you top three Seavers. So that's like, nah, we good. It happens. And so I can understand. But you know, you're happy that, you know what? They wanted me back. So I'm good. I'm good. I, I, I, I, I, I can, I can, I can get, oh, Joe, you know what? I, I can get over that. I can get over that. Yeah, it does. Because you think about what, you think about what you gave to Cincinnati, if Cincinnati, because it's like you were like, okay, it's time for a change of scenery. But look at all what you had done to Cincinnati.

[Chad Johnson]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

From the All Pros to the Pro Bowls. And they say, yeah, yeah. Oo yeah, we, we.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. I kind, I kind of, I kind of knew it was coming too, though, and I understood it. The funny thing about it, too hunky. You know what? I was, I was, I was very wise, actually, while I was still playing the game. I understood the business side of it. I understood, I understood the politics that came with it, which is why I played the game with such joy, like a little kid. That I did because I understood the minite and I wanted nothing to do with that now. Now, honestly, when obviously the, the trade happened, I knew it was going to happen because they were drafting a new quarterback.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

They were drafting a new receiver.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

And that new regime was going to start and they want, they wanted to start fresh.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They want to start it fresh.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. Everybody else was. I don't want to, I hate using the word old, but we were up in age. We're up in age. So I understood it. If, if I could have, I would have loved to let Marvin know. I say, Layla, Marv, listen, I'll take a pay cut.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

I take a pay cut. Just put Me in the slot, put me in a slot. I let AJ Green do what he do on the outside and let me, let me just, if I could be a one Jersey team, if I could do it again, I would have stayed. I would, I would definitely stay. Yeah, I didn't even have a choice. I didn't even have a choice. I ain't get no phone call, no nothing. I think Drew Rosenhaus hit me and say, yeah, they shipping your black ass off.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, Ocho, I wasn't taking no pay cut.

[Chad Johnson]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hell no.

[Chad Johnson]

And let me, let me see.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got to understand, I had taken, I had taken less. Now I wasn't getting big signing bonuses, right? So they was really, all my money was against the cap. So I was the highest paid, right? I'm like, hold on. So seven consecutive Pro Bowls in an eight year span with five, with five All Pros. And you want me to take a pay cut? Cuz I have, I got injured.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, okay, okay, okay. I, I, I think for me, the

[Shannon Sharpe]

fact that I take a $300,000 pay cut, right, that's all I can give you.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, I, I, I would have took a pay cut simply because when football season was over, I had so many moving parts in the off season. So I was still, it was like I was damn near working year round. So yeah, I wouldn't have tripped. Whatever, I take a pay cut and whatever I take, whatever pay is cut in season, I would make it an offseason anyway, so I really wasn't tripping. But obviously it didn't work out that way.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But no, it, it, but look it for the best. I'm glad I went to Baltimore. I got a chance to win another Super Bowl. I won it without the umbrella of Denver and people couldn't question, well, you wasn't going to be that good if you hadn't played Endeavor with Elway and Shanahan, blah, blah, blah. I get all of that. But look, I don't care who my teammates were. I was very successful that I was a part of three super bowl winning teams. And I like to think I was an integral part on all of those. So people, people gonna try to take shots at you, Ocho. Well, you did this, you did that. Look who you played with. Okay, what y' all want me to do? Say I wish I hadn't played with Elway, Wish Mike wasn't my head coach? I don't think Brady, I don't know how Brady feel, you know, feels about Coach Belichick, but he'll never say he wished he Wasn't his head coach. Right? Not after what they accomplished. And, you know, sometimes you don't get along. Everybody don't get along. This notion that you think that everybody should get along, that ain't happening. Just like you don't get along. Go ahead, Ocho. Everybody don't get along at the job. Yeah, we saw that. We saw the Lakers. Hey, Chuck. We contenders yet? All I know, we the third seed. Third seed just took down the Rockets. One Hyundai, the 92. I saw that. Luca had 36, 6 and 4. LeBron had 18, 5 and 5. Austin Reeves had 15, 3 and 5. Marcus Smart chipped in with 11. D8, gave us 11 rebounds with seven points. We got 13 points off the bench. We can roll with that. We can roll with that. Easy 33 minutes from raw. A little light lifted. Little light lifted. Had the highest plus minus of anybody on the court tonight. But Lakers are playing well. They're playing some good basketball. They're playing some good basketball. Luka is. Luka is. Luka. He gets off to that hard start. I mean, now you kind of at his mercy.

[Chad Johnson]

What luka had tonight, unknown.

[Shannon Sharpe]

36, 6 and 4. 36, 6 and 4. And there are two players right now in the league, averaging 25 and 5.

[Chad Johnson]

Joker.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Joker. Guess who the other one is.

[Chad Johnson]

Either Shay or shay or Luca.

[Shannon Sharpe]

LeBron, I think there's two players. Shay, go win the mvp.

[Chad Johnson]

Not even. Not even close, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, even.

[Chad Johnson]

The fact, even with the time that he missed, he's still gonna win it, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep, he missed. He ain't missed over the a lot of games.

[Chad Johnson]

Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

So. And Joker can only miss one more game. So if he missed one more game, he cool. But if he missed two more games, he's out of the running.

[Chad Johnson]

It's a rap.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Giannis is out of the running. So for me, it's Shay, it's Yoke, it's Cade, it's jb, and it's Luca.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And Wemby in Wimby and Wimby. But Lakers get a big win tonight. They needed this. They start their road trip. They got. They got the same team again Wednesday. Oh, man. If I'm a head coach, I'm flying y' all ass back to la. You think I'm gonna leave y' all down here? Monday night, Tuesday night in Houston. Oh, no. Y' all gots to go, oh, can you imagine if you had the super bowl in Houston now?

[Chad Johnson]

I don't even want to think about it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'mma do. I'mma do my part. A nightcap, Remote I ain't showing up. You gonna be. You gonna be in Houston by yourself do about on video conference.

[Chad Johnson]

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