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Nightcap Hour 1: Christian McCaffrey DOMINATES the Falcons + Ocho HATES Broncos EPIC COMEBACK vs Giants + Tua EMBARRASSING Loss to Browns + Cowboys a PROBLEM if they can KEEP CeeDee & Pickens
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Bobby Bones
Hey, it's Bobby from the Bobby Bones show. I had an incredible time at this year's iHeartRadio music festival and even got the chance to hang out with Diplo and Bailey Zimmerman while I was there. How did Ashes come together? Diplo?
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Diplo
I pulled up real quick. He was about to leave on tour. You're about to jump in your tour bus. And we had like three hours.
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Bailey Zimmerman
It was really cool. He really just like randomly showed up to my house. I'm like, oh, hey Diplo, what are you doing? He's like, I have a song that I want to show you. And I was like, okay.
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Bobby Bones
You can listen to the full episode out now, wherever you get your podcast. And big shout out to my friends at Hyundai for making this possible. Had a blast cruising around festival weekend in the allnew Palisade hybrid.
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Shannon Sharpe
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Diplo
Good.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You feeling good?
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Shannon Sharpe
I feel great. I feel great. I feel better than you. Feel better than you. Yep. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp. As you could tell, you have Bronco geared out. We did what we do. All we do is win, win, win. That's what we do. Thank you for joining us. After The San Francisco 49ers move to 5 and 2 as they take down the Atlanta Falcons 20 to 10. Atlanta falls to 3 and 3. I am your favorite UNC, Shannon Sharp. That is my partner and co host. He's Liberty City's own. He's Bingo, Ring of fame honoree, former pro Bowler, all pro. He's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Please make sure y' all guys hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button. Do us a favor, go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you guys for your support. Thank you. It's night like this. You know what? Hold on. One of the five heartbeats is nice like this. I wish would rain would fall. Okay, thank you again guys for the support. For the support. We greatly, greatly appreciate that. Ocho and I, we have a great time doing this. My team is better than his and unfortunately it's going to be a long night for him. A very, very, very long night.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Wait, wait. Give me a minute. Give me a minute. Your team is better than mine. Last time I checked, my team won Thursday night. We didn't. We didn't lose a game. We didn't.
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Shannon Sharpe
How many games y' all won? Who? The Bengals?
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
We are better than y'.
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Shannon Sharpe
All.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Let's, let's, let's not.
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Shannon Sharpe
You're not. But don't worry about that. But thank you guys for the support. Make sure you check out Shay by La Portier. If you can't find shave by La Portier in a city or state near you, order it online. The best tasting premium BSOP cognac on the market. Compare it, Try it for yourself. Don't take my word for it. I guarantee you once you try it, you'll be hooked. Thank you. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Check out my media company on all of its platform, Shay Media and my clothing company, 84. With 84 being spelled out. That link is also pinned in the chat tomorrow. Make sure you guys take check out Debo and Joe with James Harrison and Joe Hayden. You can go subscribe to their YouTube page. Debo and Joe. They're live Monday, Tuesday and Friday at 11am so make sure you check those guys out. Ocho, as we mentioned tonight, Mac Jones fielding again for Brock Purdy did a great job. He was 17 or 26, 152, one interception, but it was a combination of C Mac, C Mac. Letterman rushing 24, carries a buck 29, two tubs. He also let him in receiving seven catches, 72 yards along a 17 on eight targets. He was Mr. Everything and they relied heavily on him. And that's what you're supposed to do. And the defense got out the Pennic, they didn't really sack him a whole bunch, but they pressured him, they hurried him up, they made it rush his throws and they win a ball game. They're now moved to 5 and 2 as the Falcons fall to 3 and 3. But Ocho, watching this game, what did you like about what you saw from the 49ers? Who, you know, we. They have lost their best defensive player. Bosa, the best defensive player and Fred Warner. You know, they, they, they. They've been banged up. Their quarterback, starting quarterback, $50 million quarterback. He's out. Iuk. He's out. KD just came back today, but somehow Kyle Shanahan is pieced it together, kept this team together and they're five and two.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, listen, M. Jones has been done a hell of a job. He's done a hell of a job. And filling in for. For Brock Purdy after Brock Purdy went down. It seems like they haven't missed a beat offensively despite the injuries on, on obviously on both sides of the ball. Kittle come back today. I don't really like the way they use KD Kittle tonight. They use him as if he's a blocking tight end. Didn't really give him anything on the offensive side off the side of the ball, you know, through the air. But Christian McCaffrey leading the way not only on the ground, but also also in the air. They had Juwan Jennings, who I expected to be more of a contributor after just, you know, just paying him, allowing him to, to. To get a feel for the offense and get some passes. Kendrick Bourne, who just went crazy last week, if I'm not mistaken, just went crazy previous week and he wasn't as effective as he was from offensive standpoint for them, but they still won the game. On the other side, on the other side of the ball, the Falcons, it was obviously a snooze fest. If you watched the game, I'm not sure if you watched. You might have watched it with the sound off. If you watch it with the sound off, you might have been sleeping. Yeah, it wasn't exciting at all. It wasn't exciting at all. They kept trying to do the same plays over and over. Outside zone, outside zone, outside zone. But they couldn't really get Bijan Free. He couldn't bust one, bust one open tonight. Kyle Pitts, they had some, some plays where they got in the ball. Drake London, that's what.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I thought he was involved. He had 10 targets.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
But it just, it just, it just wasn't enough.
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Shannon Sharpe
Look, teams. Look, they're gonna have to beat teams throwing the football. Teams are not going to let Bian Robinson. We know what Bijan Robinson can do. We're not going to let him have the type of game that he, that Christian MC had. You remember the other night, oo against Buffalo, we saw what he did, ran the ball and he was. We're not letting him do that. If Drake, if, if, if Michael Penck Jr. Can drop back and throw the ball and beat us, so be it. But we're not going to let. We're not going to let that running back beat us because he's special. We understand just how special he is. You're going to have to beat up. Your quarterback's going to have to beat us from the pocket. And you. Look, actually, I want to put him on the move because he does. He's not nearly as accurate on the move as he is on the pocket. And you notice they, they brought some pressure to get him on the move and he was inaccurate. 21 of 38, 241. One touchdown. Was sacked twice, hurried a bunch, but they stymied him running the football. Oh, 20 carries, 62 yards. That's not good enough. That, that is not nearly good enough for this team in order to win because they have to have somewhere and that's when they're at their best. When they can get Algier running the football, when they can get Bijan Robinson running the football, that's when they're absolute. That's when they're. The Falcons are at their best, and tonight they couldn't get the running game, and so they became so reliant on the passing game, and I don't think Phoenix Jr. Is there yet. Drake London had 10 targets on the four catches, as you mentioned. Kyle Pitts had 10 targets. He did have seven catches for 62 yards, which was probably one of his better games thus far this year. But in order for the Falcons to be what they think they can be, especially with this offensive firepower, it starts with that running back. It starts with him.
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Diplo
He.
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Shannon Sharpe
He is the. Look, he might not be. He's the. He's the spoon right now. He might not be the sugar. He. He might not necessarily be the tea, but if you just dump sugar and tea in there and puts water in there and hey, all the things just.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Gonna go to the bottom.
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Shannon Sharpe
He stirs it. He makes every. He makes everything swirl. He makes everything better.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
If he makes everything better and he makes everything go offensively. When you have a night like tonight when the 49ers say it's obviously the second level did one hell of a job with, with Fred Warner being gone, Nick Bos being gone, the second level did a hell of a job and stopping Bijan Robinson. So what's the next thing you have to go to? You have to go through the arm, you have to go through your passing game. Drake, London, Mooney, Kyle Pitts, all those guys have to be able to, to, to contribute to the offense offensive game plan and allowing Michael Penn Jr. To flourish through the air. I'm not sure, I'm, I'm not sure what happened. It hurt. Why, why, why you took your helmet off?
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Shannon Sharpe
Huh?
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, any, any. Anyway, Chad, I think for Michael Penning Jr. If the run game is not working with Bijan Robinson, he has to be able to get back there and throw the ball. He has to. And then they throwing smoke screens. They throwing smoke screens to Kyle Pitts. They throwing, you heard me. Yeah, they throwing smoke screens to cow piss. That, that, that, that does nothing for him. That's not, that does nothing for him that he's not that kind of player with and he's not that twisted catch and face somebody up and make move. That's not what he does. You put him in positions like you did third down, you know, and you put him out at receiver and you have complete mismatches, use them that way. But I mean, listen, I think they misuse him a little bit outside, outside of that.
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Shannon Sharpe
I, I, I, I mean, look, oo I would like to play in today's game and catch because I'm g, have a bunch of catches because they throw so many screens and shovel passes to the, to the tight ends and all that stuff. But I put me down the field, I'm trying to get down the field. I ain't got to worry about nobody. I ain't got to worry about no receiver kicking out somebody or the guard, the tackle kicking out somebody or the running back blocking somebody. Send me down the damn field. I know what coverage it is and so I know I'm vulnerable. So. But look, this is a big win for the 49ers and this is what you like when you sign a backup quarterback. You want your backup quarterback to be able to hold a fort down. And until your starter comes back, I still believe, I firmly believe they should have stayed exactly where they were, took Matt Jones. You don't have to give up anything now that those picks, those first round picks and those second round picks that you had to give up. Think about what you could have done because they do a good job of drafting. They do a great job of. Of. Of identifying a player and developing said player. They do a great job of that. But Brock Purdy saved him. But going to get. Mac Jones has really helped him out this year because I'm not so sure Mac Jones has been a starter. He's been a Pro bowl player. He understands he's perfect for this system. He doesn't have a big arm. He has great anticipatory skills. He can throw on time, and he understands. He's a smart guy. He's not mobile. He's not. But he can do what Kyle Shanahan needs him to do in order to win ball games. And. And that's all I need you to do, son. Keep us afloat. I just. Hey, you got this life. Them lights that they have on, they stay for 24 hours. I need you to keep us. I need you to keep us afloat for 24 days. It's been longer because this is the fifth game starting, Ojo. But I thought he. I thought he played really well. He got a, you know, a couple of drops in there, had a deep ball, and number five. I don't know what his name is, like, bro, you got.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You gotta have that drop. That was a nice return.
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Shannon Sharpe
That's. That's what. You gotta have it, Ocho, because, look, we're playing with our backup quarterback. We gotta help him out, you know, Ocho, now you got to step in and place. We got to have everything we got. Hey, we got to make those tough cases. Excuse me. Those tough catches, and that's what. That's what they needed to do, so. Oh. Oh, we got to get to this game. Everybody know what happened. Everybody know what happen.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
What game you talking about?
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Shannon Sharpe
What you mean?
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You pretty excited. What game you talking about?
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Shannon Sharpe
Don't worry about it. You gonna find out in just a second. Oh, why you tweeting me, man? You ain't never tweeted me before, but all of a sudden, today. All of a sudden, today you want to tweet. I ain't heard from you. Listen, though, ain't.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Well, most of the time. Most of the time, you tweeting during the game. You tweeting during the game, you know, about, you know, certain players the high team is doing, and it just. It just dawned on me. Somebody tweeted me and said, well, go check on. On. Let's do a welding check to make sure he's okay because he hadn't tweeted about the Broncos all day. That's when I tweeted you. That's when I tweeted you. I just want to make sure you was good.
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Shannon Sharpe
I was okay.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You was my.
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Shannon Sharpe
The Broncos scored 33 in the fourth quarter. How about this for ironic. Excuse me. How about this?
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Wait, before you say that you're not a conspiracy theorist, are you? Okay, you are, but go ahead.
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Shannon Sharpe
All right. Demarius Thomas went into the ring of honor today. Demarius Thomas passed. He was 33 years of age. How many points did they score in the fourth quarter?
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
33. That ain't. Hey, listen, that ain't number. God. For those that. For those that are conspiracy theorists, I, I, I buy that one. I buy that one. I buy that one.
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Shannon Sharpe
The Broncos scored 33 points in the fourth quarter to come back and beat the Giants. 33. 32. Three lead changes in the final two. Prior to the day, teams had lost 1600 in two games. Consecutive games. When trailing by at least 18 points with six minutes to play, the Broncos 33 fourth quarter points were the most points in the fourth quarter by any team that had been shut out the first three quarters in NFL history. We did that. Yeah, we did that.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I did.
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Shannon Sharpe
Oo before we get into discuss this game, cameras caught a very ticked off Brian Burns leaving the field. Let's try to listen to what he had to say.
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Bobby Bones
Hey, it's Bobby from the Bobby Bone show. I had an incredible time at this year's iHeartRadio music festival and even got the chance to hang out with Diplo and Bailey Zimmerman while I was there. Check this out. So how did Ashes come together, Diplo?
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Diplo
Well, I kind of briefly met Bailey, I think at Morgan's show, one of them. And I think he's just a guy in Nashville. He's cool as hell. And I had a new kind of sound I wanted to do. And I think he's the one guy that could carry it. And I came to his house, I had a show. I pulled up real quick. He was about to leave on tour. You're about to jump in your tour bus. And we had like three hours play the record for him. We'd kind of like got a scratch. And then he handled it on his own on the road.
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Bailey Zimmerman
Yeah, it was really cool. He really just like randomly showed up to my house and like, oh, hey, Diplo, what are you doing? He's like, I have a song that I want to show you. And I was like, okay. And then now we're here playing it live.
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Bobby Bones
You can listen to the full episode out now, wherever you get your podcasts and big shout out to my friends at Hyundai for making this possible. Had a blast cruising around festival weekend in the all new Palisade Hybrid.
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Shannon Sharpe
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Shannon Sharpe
I guess we're not going to be able to try to hear what he had to say.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I know I'm not deaf, but I sure don't hear nothing. I can see. I can see his mouth moving, though.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, we can. We're not. We wouldn't. We didn't get the audio. So. Bo Nicks was 27, 50, 279, two touchdown. The Broncos ran the ball 24 times for a buck 42. Cortland Sutton, a big, big game. Six catches, 87 yards. Marvin Mills Jr. Six catches, 85 yards. Evan Ingram. Everybody was big. That final drive, it was huge. And the Broncos pull out. Jackson dark. I was like, bro, are you. Look, man, I just knew it was over Ocho. Cause when he threw the pass across the middle, the Broncos guys break it up. And here come 84 from the Giants. Get the ball and turn up the sideline and go 41 yards. I said, you know what? It ain't for us today. It ain't for us. It ain't for us. But you know what? That's one thing about Mile High. They got ghosts in Mile High.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
They got.
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Shannon Sharpe
And if you a Bronco fan, if you've witnessed games, you've seen the Broncos dig themselves out, whether it was John Elway, whether it was Craig Morton, whether it was Peyton Manning, hey, Tim Tebow, you've seen some unbelievable comebacks in that stadium. And today was unlike any other that I. That I've ever. That I've ever seen for the. From the Broncos. Oo, what, what did you take it from. Let's take it from the. Let's take it from the Giant perspective, because Jackson Dart was 15 33, 283, three touchdowns, one reception. He was sacked four times. They ran the ball 32 times for a buck 19. Wandell Robinson was 6 for 95. Bellinger was 3 for 88. Scatterboat ended up catching a 1113 yard touchdown on third and third and 11 from the Giants. Where. Where did the Giants go wrong? What did they do?
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I think, you know what, Every play counts. We always talk about that and how turnover sometimes is costly and they make you pay double, you know, for a team to be able to come back 33 in the fourth quarter. Field goals that are missed, field goal that miss that are missed. Obviously early in the game, those pts, they cost you, huh? They cost you. They cost you on the back end. Outside of that, Jackson thought, what you want to do? You want to protect the ball. You want to protect the ball. You can't throw interceptions. But what you, what you see from him, Monk, and just giving you a chance, when giving you a chance offensively, having a nice healthy balance of the run and the pass and then him being able, being able to be a dual threat and make plays with his legs, extending plays, looking downfield and, and doing some of the things he did towards the end of the game. Outside of that, you know, defensively, no. 33, 33, 33 points in one quarter. In one quarter. Not over a span of an entire game. But that comes down to. Listen, defensively, we gotta be a little tight knit. We gotta be a little tight knit. And obviously in those situations as well, offensively you want to hold the ball, you want to choose that clock out, you want to chew some of that clock out. So they're not able to come back from a deficit like that and in just one goddamn quarter. So I think this is the learning experience for Jackson dart within with it being just his four start. But I, I think they're going to be all right, man. For, for one thing, even though they lost the game, you have to feel good. As a Giants fan, you have to good.
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Shannon Sharpe
You got something special. SC score. Gonna have to understand. Oo. You can't run over everybody or you. Or you'll have no, you'll have no memory by the time you 25. I understand that you look, you, everybody to play in the NFL, everybody have a certain level of toughness. Now, I ain't telling what somebody told me. I'm telling you what I know.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
What'd you say?
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Shannon Sharpe
You don't have to prove how tough you are. It's okay. What you. Hey, he ain't gonna be able to remember his name at 25. He keep on trying to head hunt people. But I. Look, they found their quarterfack. They've identified their quarterback and he was phenomenal. He was really, he was really good today. He made the one mistake and the one thing that you can't have happen. Even if Ocho, even if you punt the ball away, you make them drive, you let them get the ball back and they only have to go 20 yards for a touchdown. So now you minimize the amount of time that they, that you've used off the clock. If you punt that ball away, Ocho and they gotta drive 80 yards, so be it. Unless you give it. You know, you say nothing cheap, nothing deep. As long as you don't give up a bomb. It's going to take them a minute minute 30, maybe even two minutes. That's what you need. Time is your friend, not a score. Time. Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. And so that's the thing. I thought the Broncos. Look, I was like, Sean Payton, what are you doing? What is this? You're at home. You're at home. Guys did drop some passes, But I. Look, J.K. dobbins need more than 14 carries. He had 14 carries for 81 yards. But when you're behind by the margin that they're behind Ocho, it kind of takes you out of running the football. So now I've got to throw. It's hard to run yourself back into a game. You have to throw yourself back into the game. But I thought Sean Payton did a well enough job of still incorporating a few runs here there. The Broncos almost blew this, bro. Why y' all fighting all out? Let him score. They missed the pa. Hey, let them score. Let them score. Now you get the ball back with a chance that. Cause I was. I was a foregone conclusion that I thought the guy was going to make. Make the pat. So now we can. You know, you get in field goal range. Now you make a field goal. Now you go into overtime. I was so glad that they reviewed it and said it was a touchdown and then gave the Broncos an extra six seconds, because originally it was scored. It was 31 seconds. They put an extra six seconds. Remember when they killed the clock, it was two seconds. Every second matters when you're behind. But I thought they did a great job. Look at. I mean, he looked like he was throwing the ball. It was like a. I don't know what they did because Marvin Mills Jr. Is supposed to run a scene to clear it. Cortland Sutton is coming in with a dagger.
- [27:33]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
For some reason, they all in the spot. Mims pull up the same spot. Yeah.
- [27:39]
Shannon Sharpe
And it looked like Sutton was like. And he pulls his hand back. His memes. Okay. They get up there, they kill it now from the inside. They love to run. This play. They put a. Courtland Sutton in the slot, and they run him on a fade up the rail. He's a great jump ball guy. He's a big.
- [27:55]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
They switched it. Yeah.
- [27:57]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes, yes. Because guess what? The guy in the slot, he don't want you to run a shallow cross. So he gonna be sliding inside. So it's gonna be an easy release.
- [28:05]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
And every time, it's gonna be an easy release.
- [28:07]
Shannon Sharpe
So you got the advantage on him. He ups over the Top of him, catches it, gets out of bounds, come down, spike it, and then will look.
- [28:16]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You know what? Obviously, Giants fans. John, the owner, John Mara, right? Yeah. John Mar. Brian Dall, John Mar.
- [28:25]
Shannon Sharpe
Tish. The Tish and the Mar family.
- [28:27]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Brother Tish.
- [28:28]
Shannon Sharpe
Well, they sold a 10% minority stake. I don't know who sold it to.
- [28:31]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I'm not. I'm not sure who they sold it to to. But if you haven't tried for kickers tomorrow, if you haven't tried out for kickers tomorrow, you know who to call, because I'm. I'm probably the best kicker in NFL history because I've never missed. And if you want somebody that's consistent, that you can count on, where you can win games on their leg, and they have one job to do, you have one job, you do one thing for a two hour practice, you kick the ball. That's it.
- [28:59]
Shannon Sharpe
Yep.
- [29:00]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
So I'm not too far away. I could be in New York tomorrow.
- [29:05]
Shannon Sharpe
They. Those two Ms. Pats definitely help the Broncos. And you look it. It, it. I don't care what anybody says. It's deflating you. Everybody's high. You high fiving on the sideline, Ocho, you're like, yeah, we just got a touchdown. And then all of a sudden, the field go. Then all the kicker. The kicker shape. It is a letdown. I don't care what anybody says. Like, oh, yeah, we good. We are. We are. No, bro, no. We work too hard to get that six point for you to come out there and jack off. That's one point.
- [29:34]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
And it's so funny. I was so con. I was so confident. I'm watching the game. I'm like, well, God damn, the Broncos getting whooped. And then somebody tweet me, well, shoot, I ain't heard from Unk. Hey, Oo. You might want to go check on Unk, man. You know what? Whoop. I see Jackson Dart go down there like a goddamn magician. And he leaped, he scored. You know, great effort. I'm like, oh, let me tweet. I'm gonna make sure I'm good over there. I look back up, I go to the bathroom and come back, I'm like, what the hell happened?
- [30:10]
Shannon Sharpe
I did the same thing. I let the dogs out, Ocho, after the Broncos scored. And then I come back in, like a minute later, the Broncos got the ball. I said, how the hell we get the ball? I don't know how we got it, but I was glad we had it. And the next day, you know, I mean, think about it. I think I read a stat that says Bo Nix is the first player in NFL history to score two, throw two passing touchdowns and have two rushing touchdowns in the fourth quarter.
- [30:38]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
And that's, that's that mean defensively.
- [30:40]
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, this hurt. Ocho, if you're a Giants fan or you a Giants player, this hurts.
- [30:46]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
It got to.
- [30:47]
Shannon Sharpe
This hurts. I'm telling you, I've had. I don't know if I've ever had a defeat like this where we had such a big lead. I mean t loud team to score 33 points in the fourth quarter. I don't know if I've ever had a loss like this, but this one hurts. I mean, I've lost a game, you know, walk off game. We lost, lost a couple of times. The walk offs to. Lost to Kansas City one year. I think it's 97 got hit a. I think a 54, 57 yard field goal to walk it off. But man, because you played well enough, you didn't turn the ball. Think about it. You had one turnover, the interception.
- [31:23]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Interception.
- [31:24]
Shannon Sharpe
But see, when did he throw the pick in the fourth quarter. Remember, alternative was already created equal. You turn this over, you have this pick in the first quarter now, now team just scored now you give them an opportunity to score again. They're right back in the ball game now. They're. That stadium is rocking. I can just imagine. Now I know some people had left because I see. But hey, I saw a lot of. And I saw the cameras moving. I said, yeah, Bronco, Bronco, they walk rocking that stadium right now. And man. Boy, I can say football.
- [32:01]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, you could. You could say it. Hey, listen, you can say it. You, you listen. You worthy. You worthy of. You could say football. You could say pigskin. You can say Broncos. Country, let's ride. You could. I mean, whatever you want to say, you can say it. I'm with you. I. I can't. I can't. I gotta put my foot in my mouth. I gotta put my foot in my mouth. Hey, you can put your robe on too. You can put your robe on.
- [32:25]
Shannon Sharpe
No, we don't want. We don't want the football. We want to see what's in the locker. Oh, Joe, just bear. Be aware, I beg.
- [32:30]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Take your time.
- [32:31]
Shannon Sharpe
Take.
- [32:31]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Take your time. Listen, I'm with you when you write. I spoke too soon. I put my foot in my mouth. Listen, I'm not, I'm not too wrong. Too many times I was wrong tonight though.
- [32:44]
Shannon Sharpe
You sure weren't.
- [32:45]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Listen, but one thing about it. Listen, I wasn't on the field I wasn't playing defense.
- [32:49]
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know what you were. You.
- [32:50]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I wasn't playing defense for the Giants. I was playing.
- [32:52]
Shannon Sharpe
So when you become a Jazz fan. When you become a Giants player. Yeah, I mean, stop telling me. Who, me? Yeah, you. I'm talking.
- [32:58]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
No, no, I'm not. Listen, I'm not a Giants fan. I'm a fan of Jackson Dart and his excitement that he bring to the.
- [33:04]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, he played for the Giants, so that means you root for him. You root for him, you root for them.
- [33:08]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
No, no, I like scatterball. I like scatterball. Jackson Dart.
- [33:11]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah, okay. You root for him, you root for them.
- [33:13]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
No, I'm rooting for the individual, not the team itself. I don't have no ill will toward the Giants, but I like what? Jackson Darden.
- [33:21]
Shannon Sharpe
I hate eggs, but I love chicken. How you gonna love the byproduct of something that. How you gonna. Look? You don't. You don't like the animal, but you like the byproduct.
- [33:28]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I mean, it happens sometimes. It happens sometimes. Listen, I ain't never said nothing bad about the Broncos. I never did. That's a different helmet.
- [33:40]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh. Oh, what's that? I don't even know why y' all go at this guy.
- [33:45]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, hey, hey, hey. He nice, too, though. He nice. He nice. You got socks, too.
- [33:53]
Shannon Sharpe
I don't even know what. I don't even know why they throw that.
- [33:55]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
What you doing with the damn socks?
- [33:58]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, I might. Hey, you lucky I didn't come out here, padded up. Hey, y', all, look at it. Come out here padded up.
- [34:08]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Matter of fact, you know what? Matter of fact, I'm trying to think when my team play again, we play.
- [34:14]
Shannon Sharpe
Y' all play Sunday, okay?
- [34:16]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, after we beat the Jets, I'm coming in my full uniform.
- [34:20]
Shannon Sharpe
You should really. Ocho, the Jets? What? Whoa, whoa.
- [34:24]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
This is an NFL team.
- [34:27]
Shannon Sharpe
I can't take. I can't tell.
- [34:28]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
NFL team. I. I have nothing. I have nothing to do with how they're doing.
- [34:32]
Shannon Sharpe
Did you see them play today?
- [34:33]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Oh, that was bad, huh? Yeah, that was bad.
- [34:37]
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho, we had the conversation and we're gonna get to it in a minute. About Justin Fields. I said, ocho, I don't know how much longer they can let it go.
- [34:44]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I didn't know it would be this soon, though.
- [34:47]
Shannon Sharpe
I, I, I. If he gonna keep playing like he played. We saw him last week against the Broncos. Ocho minus 10 yards.
- [34:53]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hold on, that's not fair. Now, that's against the Broncos defense, one of the best defenses now, he played.
- [34:58]
Shannon Sharpe
Carolina, and it wasn't much better.
- [35:01]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Listen, listen, Stay with me real quick, now. This ain't the same Carolina of old.
- [35:06]
Diplo
Now.
- [35:08]
Shannon Sharpe
They have won no games, huh? They've won no games.
- [35:12]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Okay, I'm with you. I'm with you. When you're right, there's not much I.
- [35:15]
Shannon Sharpe
Can say, but the Broncos. I don't know how, and I ain't asking no question why, but we came back, scored 33 and the 4. Have y' all seen anything like that?
- [35:26]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, on Madden, on the video game.
- [35:30]
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, we scored 33 in the fourth. The most points they've ever scored in the fourth quarter when you didn't score any points in the first place.
- [35:38]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
That's crazy, ain't it? That's crazy. I'm not sure what did it. What did the. What did the Giants do defensively different the first record that they didn't do.
- [35:46]
Shannon Sharpe
In the fourth because the Broncos hurting themselves because they started. They started playing instead of behind the sticks, they started playing in front of the sticks. It's hard. It's hard to keep converting. Third and 10, third and 11. It's hard to get that. It's hard to. You know, all of a sudden, you second and 15, you first and 20, man, you not gonna make. You're not gonna make a living making those. Getting that down in distance. But the Broncos kept plugging away and. And the spirits of DT man would not let them lose today. So congratulations, Broncos. Bronco Country. You know, we proud.
- [36:24]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Are you happy?
- [36:28]
Shannon Sharpe
And we ain't cocky, but we ride on your team like a car with soccer. We ain't bad and we ain't cocky, but we ride on your team like a God with soccer. I like that.
- [36:42]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
That's a nice little rhyme right there. Okay.
- [36:45]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I like that.
- [36:47]
Diplo
I like that.
- [36:47]
Shannon Sharpe
Yo, team.
- [36:48]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
- [36:49]
Shannon Sharpe
Bronco, stand up. Bronco, stand up.
- [36:53]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I mean, listen, I put my foot in my mouth. I apologize to you. I apologize to all the Bronco fans out there. I still love you. I never say anything bad about you. No ill will, nothing malicious towards y'. All. It was just a. A little fun banter between me and Unc, that's all. That's all.
- [37:09]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Take no offense. I was, hey, you know, the Broncos Jackson dart got dinged a little bit. I was like, yeah, put Russ in there. I had that Birdman hand rub. I said, yeah, hold on, hold on, Russell.
- [37:21]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Russ is a child of God now. Russ is a child of God now. You ask for one of God's people to come on that field Then the outcome might not have been what you thought. Yeah.
- [37:31]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, well, Russ must be a stepson and Jackson Dart his real son because Jackson Dart got the starting job now. So what is he.
- [37:37]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I understand what you're saying. I understand what you're saying, but what.
- [37:42]
Shannon Sharpe
Game we going to next? Okay. The Browns beat the Dolphins.
- [37:46]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Oh, man.
- [37:47]
Shannon Sharpe
31. Mike McDaniel tour late for Quinn Ewers. He was 12 of 23, 100 yards, zero touchdowns, three interceptions, 24. He had a 24 passer rating to A. Has the most two interception games in the NFL since 2022. Oto, this is. This is why I tell you quarterbacks, keep your mouth shut. Now, we're gonna have a conversation about your guy in Tennessee. Now, you remember your guy in Tennessee? We. That's why you keep your mouth shut.
- [38:21]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yes, sir.
- [38:23]
Shannon Sharpe
Now back to Tua Ocho.
- [38:27]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
- [38:29]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm gonna let you. I would hear what you said. That's your team. The Miami Guppies are your. Go ahead.
- [38:33]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Listen. When you stand tall with your head high and you hold other people accountable and tell us about things that are going on in your house, a house where we don't have the key to. So it's no way for us to know what's going. And that C on your chest as that captain, you have to always be front and center. And being the one to be playing at your best, you got to be playing at your very best at all times. So what you're saying in front of the media and you play. It ain't matching up. It ain't matching up. You can't be talking here. But playing down here at the bottom, there has to be some. Some. Some type of. Of even keel where everything makes sense. Okay? You know what? He can get in front of the media and say some of the things that are going on behind closed doors, because once he touched that goddamn field. He's that boy. He's doing his thing. But when you play like that and on the opposite end trying to do that, it ain't. It wasn't pretty. I was upset. I was upset watching. I was upset watching the game.
- [39:42]
Shannon Sharpe
We.
- [39:42]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
We don't even have a chance. We don't have a chance to compete, let alone you're already going against one of the better defenses in the league. So offensively, you got to do that much better. You have to raise your level of play. Tyreek is gone. He's not walking back through that dope.
- [39:56]
Bobby Bones
Hey, it's Bobby from the Bobby Bones Show. I had an Incredible time at this year's iHeartRadio music festival and even got the chance to hang out with Diplo and Bailey Zimmerman while I was there. Check this out. So how did Ashes come together, Diplo?
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Diplo
Well, I kind of briefly met Bailey, I think at Morgan's show, one of them. And I think he's just the guy in Nashville. He's cool as hell. And I had a new kind of sound I wanted to do, and I think he's the one guy that could carry it. And I came to his house, I had a show, I pulled up real quick, he was about to leave on tour. You're about to jump in your tour bus. And we had like three hours play the record for him. We kind of like got a scratch and then he handled on his own on the road.
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Bailey Zimmerman
Yeah, it was really cool. He really just like randomly showed up to my house. I'm like, oh, hey, Diplo, what are you doing? He's like, I have a song that I want to show you. And I was like, okay. And then now we're here playing it live.
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Bobby Bones
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Shannon Sharpe
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Shannon Sharpe
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- [43:39]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
He's not walking back to that, though.
- [43:43]
Shannon Sharpe
And it wasn't like Cleveland did a whole lot. It was just that you were so pathetic. Your CLE Miami offense was so anemic. They didn't really have to do anything because you gave them short fields. You gave up a pick six. This is what you do. Bill Davis used to always tell us, my college coach say, son, you praise in public, you chastise behind closed doors.
- [44:05]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
See, I. I forget. Hey, listen, I got. I got it with you today. I'm prepared. Prepared?
- [44:11]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. He said, you just. You chest. You chastise behind closed doors, you praise in public. Ocho, we played a game. We played Alabama A and M. And coach called. He called a quarterback draw on the first. The first two plays he called a handoff. Quarterback checked out of it. And then on fourth down, he called the draw again. We lined up, we lose the game. We all around the team. Coach says, I've been coaching 20 years and I've never said this before. You cost me the game.
- [44:42]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Damn.
- [44:44]
Shannon Sharpe
Just like that.
- [44:45]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
But he said it.
- [44:47]
Shannon Sharpe
He got that. He got there in front of the media. You know, we just gotta play better. Look, the plays that we didn't make tonight at the quarterback position, I trust him. I believe in him. That is not what he said behind closed doors. That's not what he said, but in public, he knew he had to put on a brave face. He had to put on a brave front. I'm not saying to what you said. You should have said behind closed doors to your teammates and keep the media out of it. See, you can't spin it because, see, when you say, when the media does this, you absorb yourself of accountability. You see, instead of saying, you know, look, I misspoke. Everything that I said I could have said to an individual or individuals that I felt that were late or not being the best representative of the Miami Dolphins, that should have never heard that. The media ears should have never heard what I had to say. But when he spent it and say the media try to spin it now he's absolving himself of accountability. I thought you were saying that you were sorry because you was taking the onus of accountability, but that's not what he did. And then think about it, Ocho. He said that after throwing three picks, he follows that up again with another three picks.
- [46:02]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, yeah. And listen, remember what I said.
- [46:05]
Shannon Sharpe
So how do I look at you? How do I look at you? If I'm a player, Ocho, you got to see on your jersey, you're supposed to be one of our best players. And a large part to why we're ineffective offensively is because of your.
- [46:19]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I told you, I'm Chad. I'm not sure, Chad. If any of you have been in a structured environment and played a sport and you look up to one individual, the individual who wears the C on the chest, not only does he wear the C on the chest, but he's a leader. He not only is a leader, but he's supposed to be. He's your quarterback. He's your quarterback. So you say some of the things that are going in house about players that are in a building, how you think they look at you next. How do you think they look at you? And you know, you know how they gonna look at you? They won't say it out loud publicly, but you know different. Yes, they always gonna look at you sideways now, from now on, even with a public apology and. And to top it off, to top it off, it makes it even worse when you come back the following week and you play like that and you.
- [47:05]
Shannon Sharpe
Stunk it up again, you pulled your pants down two weeks in a row in front of the public and took a dump on the field. Now, first of all, Ocho, I'm looking at you sideways because even before you open your mouth, I knew you weren't playing well. And I kept that to myself. Now, I could have put you on blast. Or when somebody say Tua was buns or cheeks, I could have liked it. But I didn't do none of that.
- [47:30]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
No, no, no, no.
- [47:32]
Shannon Sharpe
But what did you do? You come put us on blast and you stuff. You got to the meeting on time. You was. Did everything right. And you look like stir fry there. So what was your excuse?
- [47:44]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, sometimes you can do all the talking in the world. You can do all the talk in the world. All the talk in the world don't matter. But what does matter? I know you want to do everything right before you go, before.
- [47:55]
Shannon Sharpe
Excuse me, before you.
- [47:56]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Before you touch this field on Sundays. But all that talking and all that mean don't mean nothing if you go out there and you stick it up Sunday at 1 o', clock, you still got to play. You still got to execute the X's nose. And the person that has the ball the most, the person that is able to handle the ball the most is responsible most of the time. Whether you win or whether you lose.
- [48:21]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes. Tua now has two or more interception game and most. He has the most two intercept two plus interception games in the NFL since 2022, he's done that 12 times. It's hard to over. It's hard to overcome bad quarterback play. Because you know why, Ocho? You know why, Chat? Because he has the ball all the damn time. Unless you direct snap it to a running back or a wide receiver, which is the wildcat. He touches the ball. If he's playing bad, he gets hit, the ball comes out, he throws it, it gets picked, he runs. I always question Ocho. The man know he has a history of concussions. He breaks weight last year. What does he do, Ocho? He lowers his head on somebody. I said, you got to be kidding me. He must be thinking. He must have thought he was got a ball.
- [49:16]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I'm confused. Where do we go from here? As. As Mr. Greer, Stephen Ross, Mike McDaniel, as much as I. As much as I love Tour, you know, then I have to be critical. I have to be critical. It. It puts me back. It puts my back against the wall. And chat. Y' all know who I am. I'm one who really rarely, very, very rarely talks about people. But this is. He's now in a position where he's doing the Dolphins more harm than good, regardless of how much you paying. Yes, I know we think he's making 45, maybe 50 million a year. But what we right now got to.
- [49:47]
Shannon Sharpe
Eat that he ain't the answer.
- [49:49]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
He's not the answer. As much as I love him, and I love him to death. You know, you're putting this in harm's way, and you want your quarterback to be the one person you don't have to worry about. Okay, we don't have to worry about the quarterback. We can build around here and address all the other areas where we need to improve. But if the area is the quarterback position, where the, where the, where the problem is, well, God damn, you really can't go. You can't go no goddamn where because that's where everything starts.
- [50:17]
Shannon Sharpe
It starts with him. Ocho, you remember when they fired Brian Flores? And Tua got up there and said, you know, it was tough coming to work every day because he was so critical. It was always someone else. Hey, I don't mind a coach. I don't. Listen, my thing is, I know I wasn't perfect. My position coach job was to tell me where I'm weak and get me better in those areas. That was his job. Cool job and says, I need a little bit more out of you, Mike job. Hey, 84. I needed the day. Okay, fine. I didn't take what they said. Oh, they just, no, no, no. Because I know if my play, I, I, I'm watching the film. Hell, I see me, I'm like, damn, I sure wish I can go in there and erase that one. But damn, they gonna see that on tape. And the thing is, Ojo, when you loaf on a play or you miss a block, guess who else see it? Your teammates.
- [51:12]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Everybody.
- [51:12]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, your teammates see that. Cause they watching that same tape. So when they see Tua go through his progressions and he throw that ball and duck, or they see him take a hit and he coughed the ball up, they see that they got a big issue on the hands. Steven Ross is probably going to clean.
- [51:34]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You know, it's funny. You know what's funny, too? Did you think about all the issues that people had with Brian Flores? It's funny how everything he said now has come to life. Everything Flores said is, is actually true. And obviously I didn't know because I'm not in the room. You hear the things, you hear the issues. But now everything has come to the forefront because not winning anymore. Now that they're not winning, everything else is magnified times.
- [51:57]
Shannon Sharpe
You know how that is, Ocho. Everything starts to get creep out when you start to lose. People start to tell. People start to pillow talk all of a sudden, reporters. Because reporters do have relationship with certain players on certain team. And you what? Just like. How did they know that meeting took place in Philly?
- [52:18]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Oh, yeah. It was supposed to be between three people. How the hell everybody else know?
- [52:24]
Shannon Sharpe
Exactly. Me and you go. If me and you go somewhere. Hold on. How they know? How they know we went to the Maldives. We took people to the Maldives. How they know that?
- [52:34]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I probably posted something on Twitter.
- [52:37]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, see, that's why I ain't going with you. Cause if I take somebody, I'm gonna say, meet me at the airport. Where we going? Don't worry about it. We'll buy. We'll buy whatever we need, right? Because I don't want nobody to know. Hey, I like that. I like that.
- [52:56]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I gotta use that.
- [52:57]
Shannon Sharpe
I gotta.
- [52:57]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I gotta use that. Hey, hey, that's. Hey, that's a nice little gameplay right there, huh? I know we talk about football, right? But telling her, listen, don't ask me no questions. Meet me at the airport at this time. Don't even pack no suitcase. We gonna buy what you need when you get there. But that's a nice play, huh? I'm gonna try that. I'm gonna try that. Hold on.
- [53:17]
Shannon Sharpe
Let me write that down before I forget. Hey. Hey. Back in 20. In 26. Back in 26. Ocho O' Shea will be well again. I ain't, you know, I ain't well. I ain't well right now, but at 26, it's back home. It's back on. The thing is, Ocho and Quinn Ewers, I don't know if he's the answer.
- [53:45]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Absolutely not. The answer is Zach Wilson.
- [53:47]
Shannon Sharpe
You've got to try something or you're gonna lose the locker room.
- [53:50]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Ye.
- [53:52]
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know how you keep Tua in the locker room after this season. I don't know how. I don't know how. I don't know what you owe him, but I've seen teams eat a lot of money to move on for a quarterback when they don't feel it's beneficial.
- [54:08]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
But you got to be careful, too. You got to be careful with moving on. Zach Wilson, Kun, Ayres, Ewers. Are they the answer? Because, you know, because, you know, I.
- [54:20]
Shannon Sharpe
I, I think, I think they're gonna probably go into the draft, Ocho, at this point, but I don't know. I don't know who the top quarterback is.
- [54:28]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Oh, we talk about.
- [54:29]
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, we watch college football every week, Ocho. I ain't in love with none of you.
- [54:32]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
My point exactly. And I don't think, I don't think what we're going to get in this year's draft is a franchise altering quarterback. I don't think we have that. I don't think we have a Jackson dart in this draft. I don't think we have Jaden Daniels or what we saw with CJ Stroud when he came to Houston and they changed the dynamic and the trajectory of those teams exponentially in just a few months. I don't think, I don't think. I don't think that's out there. I don't, I don't think it's out there. Maybe someone can come in and develop and become that, but I just, I just don't see it right now.
- [55:04]
Shannon Sharpe
I don't either, but they're gonna have to do something. Ocho. I don't. I think they're starting to see that he's not the answer. And if you. The one thing you can't be, you can't be, you cannot be the answer and the problem. You can't be. You can't be both. Not the answer and the problem.
- [55:26]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Also, what you have to say is when you take away the weapons that he once had when they were winning, when they, when, when they were, you know, when he's having the great seasons, you know, in the air and then throwing the ball and hn and most were having. Were having. Playing really well on the ground or once you take all those weapons around you, that means the quarterback play has to be that much better. You have to ra. Raise your level of play when the weapons around you aren't what they used to be.
- [55:50]
Shannon Sharpe
But he does, he doesn't.
- [55:51]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
He's.
- [55:51]
Shannon Sharpe
He's not that type of quarterback. If you go back and look at him, even in college, look at what he was throwing.
- [55:57]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Oh my God.
- [55:58]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, look at NFL, look at what he's had. So he's not a guy. He can't take average players and elevate them. It take extraordinary players to elevate him.
- [56:09]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
- [56:10]
Shannon Sharpe
So when you got Jerry Judy, when you got Henry Rugs, when you got Devonte Smith, when you got Jaylen Waddle, think about that's four first round picks and I ain't talking about no low first round pick.
- [56:23]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
That's them boys.
- [56:25]
Shannon Sharpe
Look at the running backs that you had. Look at the offensive line that you got. Now he goes to Miami and he has those weapons around him. So he's not a quarterback that can elevate you. As you see, when he just has marginal talent. You see how he looks.
- [56:41]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
That's unfortunate too. That's unfortunate for Dolphins fans. Listen we. We've suffered. Yes, I said we. We've suffered since Dan Marino's been gone. Since Dan Marino been gone. We've suffered at that position and not find a quarterback that we don't have to worry about, that we can lock in and build around and say, you know what? You are a centerpiece for the next decade or so, and we don't have to worry about nothing because we know come hella high water, you're going to make all the right decisions with the ball. All we have to do is just build around you and you're going to take it from there. If we happen to lose some key players on offense, we know you can keep the. Keep the float, keep the boat afloat, and we can still win games based on your play and decision making with the ball. But right now, it's bad, man. It's bad. This is coming from a Miami native, a Dolphin fan. It's bad.
- [57:35]
Shannon Sharpe
The Dallas Cowboys double up The Washington Commanders 44 22. The Cowboys office is rolling. Dak 21 of 30, 264, three touchdowns. Javante Williams, 19 carries, a buck 16, one touchdown. CD Lamb, first game back, five catches, a buck 10 touchdown. Long 74. George Pickens 4, 82, long 44. Jake. Jake Ferguson, seven catches, 29 yards, two tubs. The Cowboys offense look crazy good. Their defense looked a lot better because they played from behind and now they get to pin their back.
- [58:11]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
That's the key.
- [58:12]
Shannon Sharpe
They were. They. They got at the. They have four sacks today. Kenneth Murray Jr. Had one. James had one. Jadavian Clowney had one. I can't even. I ain't gonna mess this brother's name up. Ocho Watching the Cowboys. As a matter of fact, they got. Guess where they'll. They're on the road next weekend.
- [58:34]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah. Hey, I. I ain't gonna. I'm not even gonna talk no trash. I'm not gonna talk no trash. But I know one thing. Pat certain II he gonna have his hands full depending on who he follows, whether it be George Pickens or whether it be CD Lamb. But I know he. He going to. He going to do a hell of a job. See, I might even talk no trash.
- [58:52]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, hey, Dak. Stay away from two. That's all I'm saying. CD Spends a lot of time. He don't really go, so he'll probably deal with. Probably stay on the pit and. But there's. Look, when the cow. When you can run the ball like the Cowboys, it's hard. Javante WILLIAMS Getting. Getting 4, 5, 6, 7 yards a carry. So you got, I mean, you got to single up.
- [59:19]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You got no choice.
- [59:20]
Shannon Sharpe
Riley Moss, you're gonna have the. But, hey, bro, bro. I mean, at some point in time, Ocho, I'm not gonna lie. At some point in time, you got to say, you know what? Every time somebody need a big throw, they throw it at me. I'm talking about at some point in time, you say enough. Yeah, I'm like Reggie and Professor Clump. With Reggie, they would kill with a. What you call him up? What's his name? What was, what was Professor Club with? Club. Yeah, Professor Club. He was on Reggie at the, at the, at the comedy club. And Reggie said enough.
- [59:59]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
All them jokes. Yeah.
- [60:01]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes, Riley, at some point in time, you've got to say enough. Yeah. I mean, you gotta make them pay.
- [60:10]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You got to make them pay. They want to come at me, they got to make them play. I remember, I remember Daron Bland, since we talk about the Cowboys and they chose not to throw Trayvon Diggs way, and they kept throwing over there the Bland and he kept picking everything off like a booger. Yeah.
- [60:26]
Diplo
Gotta.
- [60:27]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Got another one today. I mean, let's you, hey, the Cowboys look good. They look, they look, they look so good.
- [60:34]
Shannon Sharpe
They have, they have looked good offensively. Their problem has been defensively when, when.
- [60:39]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
They, when other teams, when they, when they're playing ahead, that's when the defense look good.
- [60:45]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Because you, you neutralize the threat of the run. If their problem is, Ocho, is that when the defense is bad and the offense, Dak, you know, they, he turns it over, he gets a pick or they, they fumble the ball. If you tell me that they're going to be able to play with a lead or they're going to be able to be nip and tuck, you're gonna have your hands full because they can run it with Javante and they got two guys that can go get it. And then that tight end, that, that Jake Ferguson, he ain't got no great.
- [61:20]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Speed, but he got great Ferguson is night. And the funny thing about it too, when you see the Cowboys playing, Chat, chat, y' all stay with me. When you see the Cowboys playing the way they playing today, they can compete with anybody. They can compete with anybody. I'm talking about the pack, I'm talking about the Chiefs, I'm talking about the Eagles, all those teams that are high scoring, that can score 25, 30 points a game. The goddamn Cowboys can do that every single week. Every week. Hey, one thing I do, I want you to tell Cowboys fans Something I tweeted something earlier today is I was talking about George Pickens, right? Obviously George Pickens there, he's on a one year deal and obviously they have to do something with that at the end of the season. That. Yeah, I mean his, his price point is going to be too high. They're gonna have to restructure. CD Lamb has already got his money. And I'm telling people it would be good for George Pickens to be able to go somewhere and get his money, which is, which is well deserving based on the seasons he's having, being that all the other receivers have gotten their money and everybody's about, oh, ojo, shut up. Pickens ain't going nowhere. He gonna stay here. Well, who gonna take a discount?
- [62:22]
Shannon Sharpe
Because here's the thing, Ocho, they got. Look, they're gonna have money under the cap for the simple fact they're gonna redo Dax deal. Let's just say Dax cap number is going to be. He ain't playing on that number next year. So they'll probably do get. Give Dak another, you know, say he has two years left on that deal. We'll add, we'll add four years to it. We'll give him, you know what, we'll give him another 60 million. We'll give him 150 million, 200 million guarantee whatever the case may be to get that cap number down. We get his cap number 30 now we can focus our attention on George.
- [63:00]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hold on. So if you're gonna focus your attention on George Pickens, right. And the cap is round 30. What you giving, what you giving Pickens a year?
- [63:10]
Shannon Sharpe
I'll give him somewhere between 32 and 35.
- [63:13]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Okay. Okay. We talk, we talking business. I like, I like where you're mine at. I like, I like where you mind for me, for me, honestly, based on what he can do, Based on what he can do and what he showed you he can do. He showed it with the quarterback carousel with the Steelers. He's showing a consistent, confident offense with a good quarterback in deck. Hey, give me 35. We could talk.
- [63:34]
Shannon Sharpe
Because here's the thing. He knows. He knows he has a quarterback and getting the ball. He knows if they double, if they double cd, he's getting one on one coverage. Dax, don't look for him. Dax, don't give him every opportunity and.
- [63:47]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
He making every last one and he's.
- [63:50]
Shannon Sharpe
Making every last play. Now the only problem and people and I and the people say, well, Shannon, the Bengals were able to keep t the difference between George Pickens and T. Higgins, the Bengals drafted T. Had been there for three, four years. George Pickens is right now as a rental. Now, you can buy rental cars. You can go to Hertz. They had them, they had the Mustangs that you can buy. You can buy a rental car from Avis. You can buy it.
- [64:18]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, but this is the problem I don't like, huh? You understand Jerry Jones. You understand how Jerry Jones conduct business.
- [64:26]
Shannon Sharpe
He loves office.
- [64:27]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I understand how he's made all his stars wait and he drug out the process when it comes time to pay players. That's all I'm saying.
- [64:35]
Shannon Sharpe
That's all he has. David Mugaletta, you know, David, David. But hey, he said one, one negotiation doesn't, doesn't represent another negotiation. George Pick is going to want somewhere between 32 and 35 million. He don't give a damn who gives it to him. Say it again, cowboy.
- [64:58]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
He said he don't give a damn.
- [64:59]
Shannon Sharpe
What who gives it to him.
- [65:02]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I told y', all, y' all don't listen to me.
- [65:08]
Shannon Sharpe
You might like shopping at home, but if they don't got it, I go to Trader Joe's. If they don't got it, I go to Smith's. If they don't got it, the people.
- [65:17]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Trying to tell me in the earlier, you know, earlier on Twitter, he ain't going nowhere. He gonna take less money. Huh?
- [65:24]
Shannon Sharpe
No.
- [65:25]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Do y' all understand?
- [65:28]
Shannon Sharpe
They, they. Look, the thing is that, like I said, when you look at DAX number. DAX number is 74 million. He's not playing on the 74 million dollar cap. They're gonna get that down in probably next year's cap. Probably be somewhere around 20 million, 30 million. But give him a big signing bonus. Probably a hundred million dollars to sign.
- [65:45]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah. Yeah.
- [65:47]
Shannon Sharpe
But George Pickens is going to want to eat.
- [65:49]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Got to. It's my first.
- [65:51]
Shannon Sharpe
You don't want to eat. Now you got money because you didn't sign Micah. You got, you got money and you've taken care of. You taking care of your guards, you've taken care of Duron Bland, you've taken care of people that you need to take care of. And, and, and pick as a guy. Look, Jerry loves offense. He loves the way Dak is playing. And when you see offense be like, okay, this is when you had Michael Irving and you had Alan Harper. You double. You double Michael. Alvin Harper's gonna make you pay on the backside. Yeah, you got a Jay Novacek and, and Jake Ferguson, sure handed, reliable, not the best blocker. But you know what? We ain't brought you here for the block. We brought you here to catch. Catch. Get us. Keep us a first down. Keep us. Keep the chains moving and touchdowns. He had a touchdown catching his four straight games. Javante had his second 100 yard rushing game, six rushing touchdowns on the season. He's healthy. I loved him coming out of North Carolina and he had a good early years with the Broncos, but he hurt his knee and then he came back and he wasn't the same. Unless you Adrian Peterson, it normally takes you a year and a half for that need to get right. Now they got the guy that's a year and a half removed from that surgery. And now this is what, when the Broncos selected him in the second round, this is what they thought.
- [67:19]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Now the Cowboys.
- [67:20]
Shannon Sharpe
But the Cowboys look good. Now we got to talk about Jane daines. He was 12, 22, 156, one touchdown. He ended up tweaked his hamstring. We'll see you gonna get an MRI tomorrow. We'll see the extent of that. I don't know how far they can go without him. With. Without.
- [67:39]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Listen, Mariota is it showed he can play some good ball. He can string off. He can string off some wins, but he's too up and down. Huh? You don't know which. You don't know which H. Yeah.
- [67:49]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [67:49]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You don't know which eight you're gonna get. But obviously he coming in and starting in a game where you haven't had many reps with the ones and being thrown in the fire, you have to catch. You have to catch yourself in the rhythm. You got to get yourself going. Obviously you're not. You're not acclimated to. To the speed of the game. You're not acclimated to the. The tempo in general. You know the play, you know what you're supposed to do. But your timing is going to be off a little bit. Your time is going to be, you know, be a little rusty. I think if, obviously, if he's not able to go this week, if Jaden Daniels is not able to go this week and he gets another week under his belt with the ones and getting that rhythm going with the ones and tempo going with the ones, I think he'll be fine and play much, much better next week. But it's hard, it's hard to come off the bench and make sure the team doesn't miss a beat and you come and just do your thing. Especially when you're playing from behind.
- [68:46]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah. They just pinning the ears back. Dak last four games, Ocho, he had 319 pass yards, three touchdowns, 237 yards, four touchdowns, 261 yards, three touchdowns, 264 yards today, three touchdowns, zero interceptions. He's got to be who is leading the league in touchdown pass at Stafford. Cause Stafford had less than 200, had five TDs today. I think Jackson. I thought Jack. I think Jacksonville, you know, empty their tank against Kansas City because they look like the last two games. But we're gonna talk about it. Hey. Cause Dubois. Cause y', all, y' all talk about Ocho and I, we don't talk about the Jags enough. So we're gonna jump on y' all ass today. We're gonna talk about you. We got something for you. Be careful what you wish for. I think Mahomes has 14 with two picks. Dak has 16. How many Stafford has? Yeah, we are right. They hadn't really said the stat. Matt Owen tweeted. I don't care what it costs. Dallas needs to find a way to sign George Pickens to a long term deal. This isn't Batman Robin. The Cowboys have Batman and Superman at wide receiver.
- [70:08]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I like that. I like it.
- [70:13]
Shannon Sharpe
Jane. Daniel, as I mentioned, exit the game with a hamstring injury. His mom, Regina, Jane's mom, tweeted after I wish you would stop manifesting RG3 on my son. Words are powerful and that's still. And. And that's all that's talked about. I agree.
- [70:30]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Mm. One thing about the power of the tongue, it never fails.
- [70:38]
Shannon Sharpe
There's power in the tongue.
- [70:39]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I'm always cautious in everything I say.
- [70:41]
Shannon Sharpe
Eagles.
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Bobby Bones
Hey, it's Bobby from the Bobby Bones Show. I had an incredible time at this year's iHeartRadio music festival and even got the chance to hang out with Diplo and Bailey Zimmerman while I was there. How did Ashes come together, Diplo?
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Diplo
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Bailey Zimmerman
It was really cool. He literally just like randomly showed up to my house and I'm like, oh, hey Diplo, what are you doing? He's like, I have a song that I want to show you. And I was like, okay, you can.
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Bobby Bones
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