Nightcap - Hour 1: Coach Prime joins, Sterling Sharpe HOF, Ocho vs. James Harrison

Summary

Club Shay Shay: Nightcap - Hour 1 Release Date: February 9, 2025
Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts, The Volume, and Shay Shay Media
Description: NFL legend Shannon Sharpe—3x Super Bowl champion and member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame—sits down with the biggest athletes, celebrities, and influencers to discuss their accomplishments, challenges, and everything in-between.

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1. Sterling Sharpe's Hall of Fame Induction

Timestamp: [35:25] - [40:02]

The highlight of this episode revolves around Sterling Sharpe, Shannon Sharpe's brother, being inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Sterling shares his heartfelt reflections on this monumental achievement.

• Sterling Sharpe's Emotions and Reflections:

  • “This is kind of interestingly surreal because I didn't want this. This is not something I wished on myself...” ([36:33])
  • Sterling emphasizes that he never sought Hall of Fame recognition, highlighting his modesty and focus solely on playing the game.

• Brotherly Bond and Influence:

  • “I never wanted to be in the hall of Fame. I never expected to be in the hall of Fame...” ([36:33])
  • He delves into his relationship with Shannon, describing him as both an older brother and a father figure.
  • “We are brothers, but we're one side of the same coin...” ([49:08])

• Shared Journey and Support:

  • Sterling recounts the challenges they've faced together, including Sterling's eye surgery.
  • “He taught me to shoot a basketball. He taught me to throw a football...” ([36:33])
  • The brothers discuss the sacrifices and relentless support that have been pivotal in their careers.

Notable Quote:

• “I'm not the man that's sitting before you today. I watched everything that he did. I hung on everything that he said.” – Sterling Sharpe ([36:33])

2. MVP Race: Josh Allen vs. Lamar Jackson

Timestamp: [20:22] - [27:03]

The conversation shifts to the ongoing NFL MVP race, debating whether Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson deserves the accolade.

• Stephen A. Smith's Perspective:

  • “Am I right or wrong, Mr. Stephen A. Smith?” – Bobby Bones referencing Allen's MVP win ([25:46])
  • Stephen praises both players but leans towards Josh Allen due to his exceeding expectations despite challenging team dynamics.

• Master P's Analysis:

  • “I'm kind of glad Lamar didn't win it.” ([20:47])
  • He argues that multiple MVPs historically lead to Super Bowl success and emphasizes the increased scrutiny if Lamar had secured a third MVP.

• Bobby Bones' Curiosity:

  • “Josh Allen won the MVP. He did. He did the same thing you did, you lost Super Bowl.” ([10:21])
  • He questions the decision-making in MVP voting, pointing out Sterling Sharpe's insights on team performances.

Notable Quotes:

• “They walked into this season and we looked at Baltimore and the acquisition of Derrick Henry...” – Master P ([27:03])
• “It's the scripture in the Bible. Say those things. I wish not to do is those things I find myself doing.” – Stephen A. Smith ([08:16])

3. Sterling Sharpe's Humorous Fight Segment: Ocho vs. James Harrison

Timestamp: [55:44] - [65:38]

Adding a light-hearted twist, the hosts engage in a fictional and humorous discussion envisioning a fight between Ocho and James Harrison.

• Stephen A. Smith's Antics:

  • Initiates a playful scenario imagining a showdown.
  • “Can I have the ring size cut down?” ([56:27])
  • “Let's paint the picture for you. All fours in prison...” ([57:17])

• Shannon Sharpe's Gritty Confidence:

  • “I'm built different, man.” ([61:23])
  • He boasts about his physical prowess and readiness for the imagined fight.

• Bobby Bones' Participation:

  • Joins in the banter, adding to the comedic exchange.
  • “Do you ever watch Deo workout? Like what?” ([58:43])

Notable Quotes:

• “He put his pants on right? One leg at a time, just like me.” – Shannon Sharpe ([57:05])
• “He ain't cutting no deal. He don't get down like that.” – Stephen A. Smith ([62:53])

4. Master P's Insight on Entrepreneurship and Politics

Timestamp: [31:19] - [34:02]

Master P takes the stage to discuss his ventures beyond sports, delving into entrepreneurship and his foray into political discourse.

• Journey into Entrepreneurship:

  • “I've been building and grinding and hustling and went from selling no records to over 100 million records independently.” – Master P ([67:07])
  • He shares his motivations rooted in his upbringing and desire to support his family.

• Political Engagement:

  • Master P explains his passion for politics as social commentary rather than traditional politics.
  • “I love watching presidential debates was like a Super Bowl to me...” ([31:19])

• Breaking Corporate Constraints:

  • Discusses the limitations imposed by corporate structures and his quest for independence.
  • “They want you pigeonholed here, we want you marginalized here...” ([32:13])

Notable Quotes:

• “I use other people to edify me, to educate me. But when I know the issues, I ain't scared of a damn thing.” – Master P ([34:09])
• “We just gotta think outside the box. Trailblazers.” – Nate Thompson ([70:04])

5. Final Reflections and Congratulations

Timestamp: [73:34] - [74:37]

As the episode wraps up, the hosts extend their congratulations and share final thoughts on the day's events and achievements.

• Shannon Sharpe's Gratitude:

  • “I'm not the man that's sitting before you today. I watched everything that he did...” ([36:33])
  • Expresses deep appreciation for his brother Sterling and their shared journey.

• Sterling Sharpe's Humble Acceptance:

  • “It's a tremendous honor. I know exactly what that means.” ([47:33])
  • Acknowledges the significance of his induction and the support from his peers.

• Master P's Continued Influence:

  • “I'm an independent thinker, and I got my own mind.” ([33:38])
  • Reiterates his commitment to impacting communities positively through his platforms.

Notable Quote:

• “We're going to make a lot of money off this fight because we got some big draw drawers.” – Stephen A. Smith ([64:33])

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Conclusion

This episode of Club Shay Shay offers a profound look into Sterling Sharpe's Hall of Fame induction, showcasing the deep bonds and unwavering support within the Sharpe family. Interspersed with humorous banter and insightful discussions on NFL accolades, entrepreneurship, and personal growth, the episode delivers a balanced mix of emotion and entertainment. Notable guest appearances by Master P add depth to the conversation, highlighting the intersection of sports, business, and societal issues.

Key Takeaways:

• Sterling Sharpe's journey to the Hall of Fame is a testament to perseverance and familial support.
• The MVP race between Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson sparks diverse opinions, reflecting the complexities of sports accolades.
• Master P's transition from music to entrepreneurship and political commentary underscores the multifaceted nature of modern athletes.
• Light-hearted segments provide levity, showcasing the camaraderie among hosts and guests.

Listen to the full episode on iHeartRadio to immerse yourself in these engaging discussions and heartfelt stories.

Transcript

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[Stephen A. Smith]

Oh, yeah. How y'all doing?

[Bobby Bones]

Look at that.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Oh, it's your turn.

[Bobby Bones]

He's so clean, he dirty.

[Stephen A. Smith]

It's your turn this time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What's up, baby?

[Stephen A. Smith]

It's your turn this time, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What?

[Stephen A. Smith]

You know what? Hell.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What?

[Stephen A. Smith]

You know what happened?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. You remember last time? September?

[Stephen A. Smith]

It was your. It was your turn.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, I was. I was.

[Stephen A. Smith]

You remember that?

[Bobby Bones]

It's his turn this time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, what I did?

[Stephen A. Smith]

You showed your natural butt, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh?

[Stephen A. Smith]

You can't call me and tell me to call your lady, right? And to try to get you back in the game. And you ain't tell me what got you out the game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, my bad.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, my bad.

[Stephen A. Smith]

You can't put me in them compromising situations.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I called to say, baby, let me just pray with you for a minute before we get started. By the time she got done, I was cussing. And you know, I don't cuss. I say that. What he do?

[Bobby Bones]

What?

[Stephen A. Smith]

You gotta stop. I ain't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't do nothing.

[Stephen A. Smith]

You gotta stop.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hold on. Listen to me. Like, stop. She went through my phone.

[Stephen A. Smith]

No, dog.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No.

[Stephen A. Smith]

No, dog.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, that wasn't it.

[Stephen A. Smith]

No, dog.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It was something else.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I ain't gonna tell them, but you know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know what?

[Stephen A. Smith]

You got to slow this Lamborghini down.

[Bobby Bones]

Hold on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's a new year, and I got baptized. I got baptized.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I know that water dirty.

[Bobby Bones]

That water dirty.

[Stephen A. Smith]

That water nasty.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I'm tell you, you got to stop, dog.

[Stephen A. Smith]

You too old for that. Already told him he too old for.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That junk he doing, but he. He was having sex on live, not me.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Yeah, but I was.

[Bobby Bones]

How get. How did I get in this?

[Stephen A. Smith]

You started all this.

[Bobby Bones]

I ain't say nothing.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I want to know what position you was in when you was making them sound. What position were you in when you were. Okay, my bad. It's your turn now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But. But listen, let me tell you something, okay?

[Bobby Bones]

Let me ask you this. Hold on, hold on. Let me. Let me ask. Okay, Call it. Hey, time, bro. I need a favor, man. What you need, Ocho? You know I got your dog, man. Me and my lady beefing, man. You know, she went through my phone. She found something. She. But I didn't want to tell you that part. Huh?

[Stephen A. Smith]

I ain't getting none of that.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, you ain't getting none of that?

[Stephen A. Smith]

I just got. Dog, I need you to call. Okay, but see, this ain't the first time, okay? His history here, so I know my role, so he.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. Hey, dog, I need.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I know my role.

[Bobby Bones]

Hey, dog, I need.

[Stephen A. Smith]

You see, when he calling me, he a real. Cause he know I'm coming in with Jesus.

[Bobby Bones]

You got the Bible.

[Stephen A. Smith]

If anybody could pray him back in, I could get him back in there.

[Bobby Bones]

You got the Bible, just.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you got to understand, listen. 2024 for me. I got baptized in 2023. So I found out throughout the year that was weighing off. It was weighing off. So what I did was I. Listen to me now. Stay with me. Stay with me. I call. I called you, cuz. It was nothing I could say.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Yep. That's the scripture in the Bible. Say those things. I wish not to do is those things I find myself doing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right? That's you, right? That's proverb. Proverbs 4:12.

[Stephen A. Smith]

You got to stop now. You don't want. You don't. You don't learn two scriptures. You're trying to use them like no stone. You trying to use them like it's a slingshot. You can't do that.

[Bobby Bones]

This man, he always talking about proverbs.

[Stephen A. Smith]

He don't know two scriptures.

[Bobby Bones]

All he know is adverbs.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Let me tell you something. What will make me mad about him is Grandma taught him more than that. Yeah, you ain't no grandma.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, yeah?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You met Grandma. You ain't met Grandma?

[Stephen A. Smith]

Grandma. Grandma got me around there one day on the porch.

[Bobby Bones]

But you can't get baptized every year, huh? You can't get back.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Do that, though, because, you know, he got to be in church to baptize. I just want him to go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I went to church. That's what they did today.

[Stephen A. Smith]

That's what I'm trying to tell you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They head like that.

[Bobby Bones]

It's more than that, though. You can't. You can't treat baptism like you getting your registration.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I don't.

[Bobby Bones]

Every year.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's not what. That's not what it say. What it say in the Bible.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Shanna.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes.

[Stephen A. Smith]

It's too soon for you to be counseling right now.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm on the couch.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Too soon now?

[Bobby Bones]

Cause we ain't got time.

[Stephen A. Smith]

We ain't forgot.

[Bobby Bones]

Come on.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Too soon, though.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm on the big couch.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Okay? Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

You don't get a big couch. Hey, I just.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How he chastising me and he.

[Bobby Bones]

I ain't chastising you.

[Stephen A. Smith]

He ain't throwing a stone. He's just trying to help. Yeah, but you can't put me in a situation. He need help, Right? You right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, but I'm at the doghouse now, though.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Now you should be at the dog. What did you learn? What did you learn?

[Bobby Bones]

Time. Who do the best hair people. The hair messed up.

[Stephen A. Smith]

What'd you say?

[Bobby Bones]

Do ladies that do the best hair, their hair be messed up?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, all the time.

[Bobby Bones]

I give the best. Everybody in.

[Stephen A. Smith]

The nail people, too. And the nail people, too. The nail people like, they nails be toe up, but they can do some nails, so. You right.

[Bobby Bones]

Tell him at you this time. You was just at the ceremony.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I ain't done with him.

[Bobby Bones]

Huh?

[Stephen A. Smith]

I'm not done with him.

[Bobby Bones]

We. Hey, we gotta. We got an hour and a half.

[Stephen A. Smith]

All right?

[Bobby Bones]

Josh Allen wins the mvp.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Who?

[Bobby Bones]

Josh Allen. Josh Allen won the mvp. He did.

[Stephen A. Smith]

They Got Lamar out of both trophies. Yeah, yeah, they got him out of the office. And the mvp.

[Bobby Bones]

Y.

[Stephen A. Smith]

They got to stop this, man.

[Bobby Bones]

I say the same thing because.

[Stephen A. Smith]

No, no, no. That's nothing against Josh Allen. Because Josh Allen could keep all. Let's just get that straight. And you leave him alone because he wear my shoes every game. So leave him alone every game faithfully. You got to be kidding me. I just left. They must have did it when I walked out.

[Bobby Bones]

Hey, time. Somebody said that was a dei. That was a di. Mvp. Because you and I had a conversation and I said, time. Lamar just won first team all pro quarterback. If he won first team all pro quarterback, that means 50 men and women thought he was the best player. How can you have a guy that. That's the first team all pro quarterback and he doesn't win mvp? The guy won MVP was second team all pro quarterback.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I know somebody that was had better statistics than everybody but one person as a quarterback. And he won the Johnny Unites Award. But he finished eight in the Heisman. How does that happen? Oh, my bad. He's my son.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But it's the games they play.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Excuse me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's the games they play. They make the rules.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Who is they? Don't be talking about.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't need.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I don't need say who they is. Don't be doing that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They. They don't need no more context. But I'm just saying they make the rules, therefore they get to choose regardless of what Lamar Jackson did today.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Josh Allen could play, though.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't never say he couldn't play.

[Bobby Bones]

But at the time, would you. If he was first team all pro quarterback, would you have had a problem with him winning the mvp?

[Stephen A. Smith]

No. But also the offensive mvp. He should have won. Offensive. Yeah, I'm sorry.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Before being mvp.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Yes. He should have swept both of them, actually.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So what message is that telling you?

[Stephen A. Smith]

Keith Sweat? Something, something just ain't right. Something, something, something just ain't right.

[Bobby Bones]

Hey, J, Are you back in there?

[Stephen A. Smith]

Are you back in the. In the house?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I can't hear you.

[Bobby Bones]

You heard me, Rare.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Where's she at? She is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Where she at?

[Bobby Bones]

Where she at?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Rare, where you at? Come here.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Yeah, we here to come here for this job.

[Bobby Bones]

Rare, you back, though?

[Shannon Sharpe]

She here?

[Stephen A. Smith]

You back.

[Bobby Bones]

Come here.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Real like, where in.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, we still in separate houses.

[Stephen A. Smith]

What?

[Shannon Sharpe]

We still in separate houses.

[Stephen A. Smith]

You still in separate house.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm in there.

[Stephen A. Smith]

So what you doing at night, huh? What you doing tonight?

[Shannon Sharpe]

What am I doing tonight?

[Stephen A. Smith]

Yeah, you heard me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let's go to the Strip club.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Anybody say h. Go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Strip club.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Why are you going to strip club?

[Bobby Bones]

For wings. A gy. No, no thighs.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Where she at?

[Stephen A. Smith]

She gone.

[Bobby Bones]

You were there when the hall of Fame award announced.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Yeah, I was there. I'm happy, Eric Allen. You know, I'm going back.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm happy.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I'm happy. Oh, come over here. Come over here. Come over here. Good Lord, girl, that's. That lost his mind. Do you remember our conversation? I do remember the conversation. And we're not going to tell everything, but he showed. He showed his natural, didn't he? He showed his bare ass. Oh, Lord. So is. Is he back?

[Sterling Sharpe]

He working?

[Stephen A. Smith]

No, not yet.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hold on, hold on, hold on. So we not together.

[Stephen A. Smith]

And don't be trying to check online either.

[Bobby Bones]

You try. You see what he trying to do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

In front of my company?

[Bobby Bones]

This is my family.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I answer the question. Are we together or not? Hey, hey, hey.

[Stephen A. Smith]

He ain't gonna say, let the dog back. What's wrong with you?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hold on.

[Stephen A. Smith]

What if that was your sister or your daughter?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You heard me. Remember that trip we talked about by going to the doctor?

[Stephen A. Smith]

Excuse me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

The trip we talked about by going to the doctor?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Stephen A. Smith]

We're going to the yard now. We're going to.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, who is we?

[Stephen A. Smith]

You and me. You just said all that's going. We already plan this trip. Don't y'all want to see us go to the doctor? No, it wasn't a doctor. I don't want to go to doctor.

[Bobby Bones]

You just. It was Colombia. You just clowned me.

[Stephen A. Smith]

We go to Columbia, you ain't going to be all, I need to go to Bible class.

[Bobby Bones]

Where we need to go Bible study. Bible study.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, you know what? Single people. No. Only married people go to Bible study. Huh? Or people that don't.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Don't do that. No, don't do that.

[Bobby Bones]

Now. Now. Y'all want me to go? After you done came out here clowning me, you joined in.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, she say we ain't together, so I'm going to the doctor.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I'm telling everybody what happened and about him and you. I discriminate. You told us we going. You all. Y'all said we going together.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm going. I don't know about y'all.

[Bobby Bones]

I gotta work.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Me, too. And you know how many jobs he got?

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, no, hold on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We can work from out there.

[Bobby Bones]

What you mean, we can work from out there?

[Shannon Sharpe]

We got WI Fi in the doctor.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Did he ask for forgiveness?

[Bobby Bones]

No. Hey, what you need to do is put information.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Hold on. You didn't ask for Forgiveness.

[Bobby Bones]

Hold on. Yeah.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Huh? Anybody say honking here, what you said, did you ask for forgiveness?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, from the Lord.

[Stephen A. Smith]

That's a good one. Now, that's a good.

[Bobby Bones]

What? Instead of WI Fi, you need to.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Hey.

[Bobby Bones]

What you need to do. Instead of that I on the end, you need to put an E.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wait, hold on. Say it again.

[Bobby Bones]

Instead of that I on the end of WI fi, you need to drop that I and put A, E, Y, C. Close enough.

[Shannon Sharpe]

She gotta work for this.

[Bobby Bones]

You hear this mess.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Lord Jesus.

[Bobby Bones]

Huh? You.

[Stephen A. Smith]

You just getting deeper and deeper. I'm about to exit the stage. You know what? Rail will be coming back later when you walk out. Real. Walk in front of him.

[Bobby Bones]

Walk in front of me. He's trying to trip me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right, baby.

[Stephen A. Smith]

He ain't crazy.

[Bobby Bones]

Look at. Look at it.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Look at you. Hey, you don't have to walk like that. Real. See, you gotta stop, dog.

[Bobby Bones]

We had this conversation.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What I do wrong?

[Bobby Bones]

Everything.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I'm. I'm good. I'm good.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I'm.

[Bobby Bones]

You're not good. Stop saying that.

[Stephen A. Smith]

You selfish.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We in front of company.

[Stephen A. Smith]

They don't know what I'm talking about, but you selfish.

[Bobby Bones]

That's why I stopped calling you selfish. That's why I stopped calling you.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Y'all understand? We're like brothers. He's the little brother that stays in trouble. He's the big brother. No, he's the middle brother. That. That. I'm trying to.

[Bobby Bones]

Stephen A. Smith.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I'm swinging on him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Where's Stephen A. I need a job.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I'm swinging on it. You. You can work with me, huh? I got a job for you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What you want me to do?

[Stephen A. Smith]

Receiver. You want to be the receiver? Coach assistant.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wait, I can come coach in Colorado?

[Stephen A. Smith]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What's the pay?

[Stephen A. Smith]

What's the job?

[Shannon Sharpe]

What you need me to do? A lot, if the money right, I'll be there.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Can you teach what you did?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, that's a good one. That's a good. I don't know if they got feet like this, but I can teach. What's Stephen A.

[Bobby Bones]

You asking? The question you ask. You talking about you want a job? He asked you a question. Can you teach what you did?

[Shannon Sharpe]

He asked me, can I teach what I did? Have you seen somebody be able to do what I did back then yet?

[Stephen A. Smith]

I see some people with good feet. Not quite like yours. You were special. I'm gonna give it to you special.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They go. Your answer.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, maybe they have feet like you weren't trying to teach it. Now the question is, can you Teach.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I could teach. I could teach. I just want to know the pay. I could be in Colorado tomorrow. I can do nightcap from Boulder.

[Stephen A. Smith]

You know what? We. We both could do nightcap from Boulder.

[Justin Pennick]

Let's go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I like that.

[Bobby Bones]

That.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I like how y'all.

[Bobby Bones]

I thought. Stephen A. We good, huh?

[Stephen A. Smith]

Oh, we good.

[Bobby Bones]

Are we good? Yeah, Y'all good?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y'all good?

[Bobby Bones]

And now, hold on, hold on. Coming to the stage, Stephen A. Smith.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I like. He a stripper or something. The way y'all call.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You see the wall? You see the wall? That's that money wall. What they do, baby.

[Bobby Bones]

Good to see you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y'all hiring.

[Master P]

What?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I want to be on first take. We got the people. Got the people here in front of you.

[Stephen A. Smith]

So I want to get us out working out, too. My dog working.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What? What day? I want to make sure y'all hit us. What day? Can I join first take.

[Stephen A. Smith]

What day?

[Master P]

You join first tape.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What day?

[Master P]

The day I tell you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, okay, okay. We getting somewhere. That's enough.

[Bobby Bones]

Anything you want to share?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, not yet.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I'm good. Life is good. Life is good.

[Master P]

I can't complain.

[Stephen A. Smith]

It's good to see y'all.

[Master P]

Thank y'all for coming out with my boys. It don't get no better than what they doing. And we know what the hell he been doing, so it's all good. I'm in the. I'm in good company tonight.

[Bobby Bones]

We've been talking about this. We've been going back and forth, right? Josh Allen won the mvp.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Yep.

[Bobby Bones]

Lamar Jackson was first team All Pro quarterback.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Yep.

[Bobby Bones]

Which is. I'm surprised. I'm shocked that it happened. What are your thoughts?

[Master P]

I'm kind of glad Lamar didn't win it.

[Stephen A. Smith]

For real.

[Master P]

Well, you gotta let me explain.

[Stephen A. Smith]

It's the setup. That's the setup.

[Master P]

You got two league MVPs. Every other individual in NFL history who's had two league MVPs have won a Super bowl championship. Lamar, if you will be quiet and let me explain, I will make sure you understand my explanation. What I'm saying is, if he had won three, then the heat on him next year would have intensified even more and we'd highlight his failures more instead of appreciating his greatness more. Josh Allen went in the mvp. Well, congratulations. Now what you gonna do? Because we gonna talk about you the same way we talked about Lamar. Jack now. Because now you are mvp.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Where's your chip?

[Master P]

And if we're not going to talk about him not having a chip, we can't do that to Lamar Jackson either.

[Stephen A. Smith]

That's why I like it, but I don't love it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I understand it.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I like it but I don't love it. I understand your philosophy. I understand how you flip that. Brilliant. That's what I expect from you.

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[Matt Castle]

Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirrorball trophy from Dancing with the Stars. So where else are you going to find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? Based in Nashville, we're more than just your basic NFL show. We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything because we got lots to say. I texted you and you text me back. Now I don't know if you have the update but like all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff, like it's all colored. They changed it and the, the heart's a little pink. It felt like I told you I loved you. I'm going to be honest, it was a little pink.

[Stephen A. Smith]

There was something sentimental when you like when, when you send it, it's like, do I send the heart now?

[Matt Castle]

Because I don't like the color edition.

[Sterling Sharpe]

It's extremely pink.

[Matt Castle]

Listen to Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get. Get your podcasts.

[Justin Pennick]

What's going on, everybody? This is Justin Pennock from John Boy Media, the host of the Football Today podcast alongside Bobby Skinner and Chris Rose. We're rolling three times a week, on Mondays, on Wednesdays, on Fridays. Breaking down everything you need to know about the NFL. We're talking about the MVP race. Is Josh Allen going to pull it out? Lamar Jackson? Can Saquon Barkley even break the rushing record? Can the Steelers keep up their momentum? We talk about everything. We break it down. Stats, analytics. And of course, Chris Rose is bringing his perspective on being a pro in the media world as well. Listen to Football Today on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and you will be glad you did. Hope you could join us for the postseason.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Nevertheless, we can't look down the street and condemn a man about what may happen tomorrow and not applaud what he's done today. Because that man deserves his flowers right now. Regardless of what may happen tomorrow and how we think about him, he was the most valuable quarterback in the NFL to his team, to our league, to his offense. Am I right or wrong, Mr. Stephen A. Smith?

[Master P]

I'll give that to you, but allow me to retort. We walked into this season and we looked at Baltimore and the acquisition of Derrick Henry and we said that monsters, they gonna win the afc. We saw Josh Allen, he lost Stefan Diggs, he lost Gabe Davis, he had a rookie wide out in Keon Coleman. He didn't get Amari Cooper until the middle of the season. And he was balling out up until the last week of the season or so. Shannon and I, along with everybody else, was debating who was the mvp. We were leaning towards Lamar Jackson, but it wasn't like we had summarily dismissed Josh Allen because he had played on an elite level and he didn't have as much to work with. So you're absolutely right with what you're saying. If we're able to look at Lamar Jackson and say, there ain't no need to discuss nobody else, because nobody else was even close. But we know that wasn't the case with Josh Allen because of the personnel that he was working with, the absence of expectations, how he had exceeded expectations, and because of that is why I.

[Bobby Bones]

Feel the way that I feel looking at this game. Kansas City going for an unprecedented three peat. You got the Philadelphia Eagles that were here just two, just three years ago. This is the second time they're here in three years. We know what's at stake. We got Saquon, who had an unbelievable season, offensive offensive player of the year. You got Jalen Hurst, who played unbelievable, had the run, turnover, and they ended up losing that ball game. If you had to bet your money, who do you like in this game on Sunday?

[Master P]

Well, you don't bet against Patrick Mahomes. You don't bet against Patrick Mahomes. However, if you want to roll the dice and take chances, because there's more money out there to get. If you take a risk, you look at Philly. Philly collectively is the better team.

[Bobby Bones]

They are you looking up.

[Master P]

And then we talk about Saquon Barkley, 2,005 yards rushing. He's been electrifying. But we didn't mention this enough. Do y'all know their offensive line averages 6ft 6, 300, like 28 pounds.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Some big boys up there.

[Master P]

I mean, these brothers plug holes as wide as Broadway on a Sunday morning. If you can do that against Kansas City's defense, Philadelphia Eagles don't want the championship.

[Bobby Bones]

You.

[Master P]

But I think you got to do that because Patrick Mahomes on the other side, you gonna have to do that in order to win this game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Like he really answered the question, man, if you were a bed man, who you putting your money on?

[Master P]

I would bet on Philly. I would take a chance to bet on Phil. Okay, But I recognize that I'm taking a chance, but I would still bet on Phil, right?

[Stephen A. Smith]

You, you said Patrick Mahone several times.

[Master P]

I like that.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Since I got into this coaching realm, I look at coaches a lot differently. I have a lot more respect for the coaches than what they're doing. Andy Reid is unflappable. Andy Reid has never been just flat out out coached in a one on one battle for it all. Andy Reid will have his team ready and prepared and he will have a few wrinkles up in sleeves for situational football like we hadn't seen before. So I know we talk about Patrick Mahomes, but Andy Reid plays a major role in this whole situation. And if it was coach, coach is.

[Master P]

Going toe to toe, you know, ain't no contest.

[Stephen A. Smith]

There you go.

[Master P]

Ain't no contest.

[Stephen A. Smith]

There you go.

[Master P]

I mean, I respect Sirianni, but he ain't on Andy Reid.

[Stephen A. Smith]

There you go.

[Bobby Bones]

Over the last year, we've seen you kind of get into politics. We see you at 2%, 2 and a half, 3%. People are talking about Stephen A. Smith. He's resonating. What made you decide to say, you know what, I want to branch out into politics. I Want to talk politics?

[Master P]

I've been this way all my life. I was neutralized to some degree by my employers. First the Philadelphia Choir, then cnn, then Fox Sports, then espn. They wanted us, you know, the industry itself. And I've talked to you about this personally, Shannon. I told you the beauty of athletes, the greatness of this brother, the greatness of all three of y'all. What? The thing that you know but you can't fully appreciate because you've never been constricted to that level, is that y'all have a level of freedom and independence that less talented individuals like myself that had to go through the maze of corporate America has to experience. And so it comes with restrictions. You're an employee, not an independent contractor. There's a health care plan that comes with it. That's the benefit. The hazard is that it has restrictions everywhere. You can't do this, you can't do that. You represent the brand, not just yourself. We want you pigeonholed here, we want you marginalized here, et cetera, et cetera, etc. But what they didn't know about me is that all my life, I mean, as much as I love sports, watching presidential debates was like a Super bowl to me. Watching a gubernatorial debate was like a Super bowl to me. I love the volleying back and forth.

[Bobby Bones]

I love.

[Master P]

I love having at least a speck of knowledge about the issues that affect us. You know, to me, I don't even consider it politics. I consider it social commentary. It ain't politics. When I'm talking about the economy, healthcare, immigration, education, crime in the streets, etc. You know, that's real life issues that I deal. I'm from Hollis, Queens, New York City. I'm from the streets of New York. That's real life issues to me. And so when I see a bunch of people who don't look like me, who don't share my cultural identity, who don't have my experience, who don't walk the streets and haven't walked the streets. The way that I have, my attitude is you might know the issues, but you don't know the true impact that it has on everyday people. And I'm one of those people. I don't give a damn what kind of success I have. I still roll back to Hollis. I still pull up at a White Castles. I still go in the park in New York City.

[Justin Pennick]

I still.

[Master P]

I am who I am. And so when the opportunity finally presented itself and I was able to branch out, it was courtesy. And this is where all of y'all play a Role prime was an independent dude, always preached about independence. You came with Club Shay Shay. And then after that nightcap, and when y'all came about and y'all were doing your thing along with others like the pivot and others, I said, hold on. You've been holding me back, holding me back, holding me back. But these other fellas got their own platform. Well, I got my own now. I own and operate it. 100. What's the problem? And they were like, we can't say anything. And so when I went there and did it, they were like, wait a minute. Now you're doing sports. That's us. So we can't stop you from doing it. But we'd be damned if you gonna just have a sports show right? Then this should be for us. I said, I don't want a sports show. And when I told them pop culture, entertainment, and politics, they're like, go ahead. Because nobody thought that I would resonate because they. They didn't know. And so finally they said, oh, damn. He had the Situation Room. He on Hannity, he on MSNBC with Rachel Maddow or somebody else. He's on Politico. He's on News Nation. What the hell is going on? And all I said in response was, here I come.

[Bobby Bones]

Right?

[Master P]

I told you I was coming. And the goal is to resonate and to make a difference and affect our community and all communities in as much of a positive way as possible. And that's what I'm doing right now. So they saw it. They put me on Bill Ma on hbo Real Time with Bill, Matt. They wanted me. They put me on the View, and they said, oh, this brother is real. He.

[Stephen A. Smith]

It's.

[Master P]

It's something special going on here. Then everybody started calling, and I'm like, this ain't new. This has always been me.

[Bobby Bones]

If you.

[Master P]

If you think about the conversations we've had off the air, think about the things we talk about, think about the things I've shared with all three of y'all at one point in time, another. And all of y'all have espoused words of wisdom on me, and I'm always appreciative of that. But I'm an independent thinker, and I got my own mind. And I. I use other people to edify me, to educate me. But when I know the issues, I ain't scared of a damn thing. If I know my facts, I'm gonna roar, and that's what I'm doing.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Amen. Proud of you, boss. Look at your brother.

[Bobby Bones]

Where? Hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What they do hall of Famer, boss man. What they do, baby? How's it going?

[Sterling Sharpe]

Thank you, sir. Thank you, sir. No, no, no, no.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Get back like you were.

[Sterling Sharpe]

Yeah. That knee's bad. No, my knee's bad. Thank you very much. It's been a long day and even longer trying to get here from over there, but thank you for staying. Hopefully we can get you out of here shortly because I gotta get up early in the morning again, but a tremendous day. It's an honor and a pleasure to follow that guy for a change and being the first brothers inducted into the Pro Football hall of Fame.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Don't you. Don't you cry up here. Don't do that. I want to know. You have to tell me. Tell the people out here. Understanding and knowing all you've been through, where y'all come from, what it took to make it to the NFL, the struggles, having to lead a game early, what this night means to you.

[Sterling Sharpe]

It's. It's kind of interesting. Och, because I never wanted to be in the hall of Fame. I never expected to be in the hall of Fame. This is not something I asked for. This is not something I wish for. This is not something I prayed for. Because when I left the game, the only thing anybody ever talked about is what I didn't do. Now, I'm okay with that. I am. I'm okay with what I. I put on film. I'm okay with that. But. So I never had any expectations. This is not like Christmas to where, you know, you want a skateboard or you want a bike or you want them pair of Jordans. This isn't like that. So for me, today is kind of interestingly surreal because I didn't want this. This is not something I wished on myself. But, you know, being there and seeing my friends that are in the hall of Fame that were more excited than seem like I am right now, but they were genuinely happy. My good friend Terrell Owens, I. I hope I'm not. I hope I'm not doing anything wrong by putting Terrell's business in the street. But to. Cried to and I go way, way, way back to the. Before he even got in the lead. And he was so happy for me that. That he and I had a. Had about a good 45 second moment to where we just kind of. We kind of got wrapped up in each other and the history and the time and all that. So it's. It's been a really good day. Oh. But let me tell you, I. I haven't gotten there yet. It's gonna it's going to take a little more time to get there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Congratulations.

[Bobby Bones]

Thank you.

[Sterling Sharpe]

Thank you. And I know. Thanks. It's been a long time since you've seen that guy speechless over there.

[Master P]

You know, your little brother loves you, man.

[Sterling Sharpe]

Yes, he does.

[Master P]

When he talks about you, he talks about the man that the only man that he's ever hoped to be, to measure up to because he knows he couldn't do it. And anybody that knows you and anybody that knows him knows how he feels about you. Me personally. You know how much love I've always had for you.

[Sterling Sharpe]

No doubt.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let's get some tissue now. We need some tissue up here.

[Master P]

For those of you who might be too young to remember, we religiously talk about Jerry Rice being the greatest receiver in NFL history. Those who know football before to. Before Randy Moss, we would all mention him because he was that sensational of a wide receiver. He was big time. And so to then watch you transition into the business before your brother did, you did a hell of a job talking the game of football, teaching the game of football, working with cats in the industry and showing us the way as well, and had that pedigree. There's so many people that follow that played in the NFL and now doing television. You were doing it before most and you were doing exceptionally well. And so for me to see you have this day.

[Sterling Sharpe]

Thank you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Thank you.

[Master P]

Is well deserved, and I'm just happy for you. It's long overdue.

[Sterling Sharpe]

Thank you.

[Master P]

But it's here. Congratulations. Congratulations.

[Bobby Bones]

I think the thing is why I get so emotional when people ask why. I said, because I had GPS to get to where I'm going, because I had to follow him. You see, he did what he did with no navigational system. He had no map quest, he had no Google, he had no instructional manual. I had all of that because I got to walk in his footsteps. A lot of what I learned, almost everything that I learned, I learned from him. My grandfather was very, very hard on my brother, and I didn't understand why until my grandmother said, barney, why are you so hard on Spanky? That's what they call. We call him. He said, mary, everything that little one is going to learn, he's going to learn it from him. It's his job. Because we're not going to be around Mary Long. It's his job to teach him how to be a man. It's his job to teach him right from wrong. He's going to follow everything that he does because that's what he sees all the time. For My brother to do what he's done with no guidance, with no instruction manual to get to where he got to get me to where I got. You guys have heard me say the only man I've ever wanted to be was him. He was my hero. He was my role model. He taught me to shoot a basketball. He taught me to throw a football. He taught me how to catch. He taught me how to tie my shoes. I'm not the man that's sitting before you today. I watched everything that he did. I hung on everything that he said. And. And then you heard me tell this story that he. He's only three years older than I, but he's more like my father. My sister's eight years older. She's more like my mother. Because everything that they did was what a mother and a father would do for a child. I'm not here. I'm not the man that I am. I'm not the person that I am. I'm not the friend that I am. I'm not the father that I am. Without seeing how he did things, He's. We're brothers. We're a lot alike, but we're very different because I've always had to fight. Everything came so easy to him. I was so small. They called me Peewee. And I just. I could never understood. I never understood why I couldn't beat him in certain things. Things he was always prouder of. Things that I did as opposed to what he accomplished. He was much more happy when I got drafted than he did. He wouldn't. First pick in the seventh round. I mean, first. The seventh pick in the first round. I went seventh round, 192. He was so excited. He would just call and say. I mean, he just. Man, y'all don't know what this moment means, not just to our family. My mom is going to be extremely excited. I'm extremely excited. A high school coach who coached my mom, who also coached here. And I brought. This is a man God heard prayers. I didn't even know he was listening to. There'll be a time that you and I'll have a conversation. We'll talk mapping everything out. Guests that you want to bring and the party and the entertainment that you want. Bro, I've said it before Would give every dime Take myself out of the hall just for you to be in. I measure my life in summers. I don't say years, say I think I pretty got. Hopefully pretty healthy. I got 20, 20 summers left. I'm good now. I'm good. Love you. There's only two men guys I've ever told that I love my son, my brother. Lord have mercy. It was so hard to keep this a secret. Stephen A. When I got the call and I had to get him to come to my home and they wanted to go do it in Glenville, I said, bro, I hadn't been to Glenville in 13 years. He gonna know something up if I tell him to come down there so I can lured him to the house. Still, he hadn't seen me in my home in six years. So if I call and I tell him to meet me somewhere, he's gonna think something's wrong. Like, what's up, bro? He's like, what's. What's up? I said, man, just come to the house. He's like, I'm in town. He's like, you all right? I said, yeah, bro, I'm good. I'm good. I just, you know, I'm in town and, you know, you close by. And he had surgery on his eye. He had a detached retina. He had a bubble placed in his eye. He almost lost division in his eye about three months ago and said he had some. Some blurred vision in his eye. And he went to the doctor, and the doctor said, we got to perform surgery. They couldn't perform surgery that afternoon because he had already eaten. So they got him in the next morning. So that's what we've been dealing with. Had a lot on my plate dealing with that, because I worry I'm the worrier of the family. I think that's my responsibility now. But, bro, I'm so happy. I'm so proud of you. I'm getting it.

[Sterling Sharpe]

I'm getting there. It's. It's hard to explain because you don't want to put your emotions on someone else, but you, you know, and I think that the easiest way to explain it is we've all experienced, I think, Christmas. You have a list, and you're hoping that you could get two, three, or four of those things. I never wished for this. I. I never wanted this. And. And I said it tonight out loud for the first time. And the reporter was like, what do you mean you never. I'm like, man, you don't understand. I only want to do one thing.

[Nate Thompson]

Game.

[Sterling Sharpe]

And that was play. I didn't want to be an all Pro or a pro Bowler or all that up. I just wanted to play. And I got to do that for seven years, and I'm good. And then the hall of Fame comes around, and they're like, okay, you've been out five years. You know, Sterling Sharp is on the list of 25. You know, it would be. He would be shoeing if he played longer. But they never talked about what I did. And I was like, if it wasn't enough, wasn't enough. I'm okay with that. I slept real good before I found out I was going to the hall of Fame, and I slept good after finding out, but. But I really didn't have any. Any aspirations on winding this. It is a tremendous honor. I know exactly what that means. I went through it with him, and that was the greatest athletic achievement of my entire life. Was going on that journey with him through the hall of Fame. Me going in will not exceed when he went in.

[Bobby Bones]

It won't do.

[Sterling Sharpe]

It's not going to come close. That was probably the happiest I'd ever been because I knew where he came from. Going to Savannah State, a college. He said he wasn't going to go. That's one of the times that I told him what he was going to do. So I knew how hard he fought. And, I mean, there's not a lot of opportunities for us in sports to.

[Bobby Bones]

Where.

[Sterling Sharpe]

I know what Stephen A's journey was like to get here, or I know what Chad's journey was like to get here. I know what his journey was like, and all my prayers were for him. I'll embarrass him about one story. I paid all his bills. He was in the NFL. I paid all his bills until my daughter was born. Because that was. That was mine. Because I wanted him to always have better than what I had. He had a Mercedes before I did. He couldn't afford one, but he was driving one. And then he wanted to go to a beach party, and he drove my new one and wrecked it.

[Bobby Bones]

I junkyarded.

[Sterling Sharpe]

He junk. Yeah, that's what he said. I junkyard your car, dog. Wait, what? So you have to understand that we are brothers, but we're one side of the same coin. We'll say different things differently, and we'll do different things differently, but we think alike. And God is truly. You know. And I will tell you this story, and I'm gonna be quiet. A guy said to me, if you go in the hall of Fame, are you gonna do like everybody else and thank God because you think God wanted you to be a Hall of Famer? If there is a God. And I said this. I said, my own brother stood up and said, if you would have played longer, there's no question in my mind that we would be the first brothers in the Pro Football hall of Fame. That was in 2011. Since he said that I have not had one catch, I have not gained one yard and I have not scored one touchdown and we are the first brothers in the Pro Football hall of Fame. So you tell me if there is a God and that I should give him some glory. And so you know, for me that that is what I'm I'm probably most proud of is everybody used to say, you know, Shannon, stop trying to be like him. You can't be like him. Shannon, stop trying to do what he does. Shannon, you can't do what he does. Shannon, stop trying to imitate him. Shannon, be your own man. Shannon. I am so happy to say he didn't follow me around. I followed him.

[Bobby Bones]

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[Matt Castle]

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[Stephen A. Smith]

There was something sentimental when you. Like when. When you send it, you're.

[Sterling Sharpe]

It's like, do I send the heart now?

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[Sterling Sharpe]

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[Matt Castle]

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[Justin Pennick]

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[Bobby Bones]

He challenged James Harrison, huh?

[Stephen A. Smith]

You lost your mind?

[Bobby Bones]

Debo.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Debo is a killer dog. Debo nasty, too. Devo is strong. He physical. He violent.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That ain't got nothing to do with fighting.

[Stephen A. Smith]

What you talking about does. Why you scared.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man? That don't mean nothing.

[Stephen A. Smith]

It means Debo walked out. Like Debo. Deo don't look at him like that. He gonna.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, I mean, like that work on, like, regular people, man. That don't scare nobody. Are you talking about, boy? I'm on whatever you want, boy.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Hey, hey, hey, hey. Shannon, I need to be a part of this because I want to buy the gates. It ain't gonna be no regular ring. I'm putting gates up high because he gonna try to get up out of there. Yes. I want high gates.

[Bobby Bones]

He wanted mma.

[Stephen A. Smith]

No, no, hold on. I want high gates so he can't get out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hold on, hold on. So what you sitting here telling me is, you know how I am? You know how I'm built? You know the cloth I'm cut from and you don't believe in me? Cause the look like that?

[Stephen A. Smith]

Yes, yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right, Bet.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Hey, all I'm saying, we sit. Let me paint the picture for you. All fours in prison.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Stephen A. Smith]

It's getting ready to get, dog. Me and Shannon, we walk out. Cause we in the next cell, and Debo's just sitting up there eating some chips, looking at you. Something going down that night. It ain't gonna be Debo.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It definitely ain't gonna be me.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm just trying to figure out. Look, I understand that y'all played in the same division. And, you know, I don't think y'all ever beat Pittsburgh, but what makes you think that you can beat this man?

[Shannon Sharpe]

He put his. He put his pants on right? One leg at a time, just like me. What did you talk about?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, but the difference is his pants don't fit. Mickey Mouse.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Boy, these are large.

[Bobby Bones]

Exactly.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's funny. It's. I mean, I think we look at aesthetics, we look at size, we look at somebody being big. We look at a nickname like Debo, and we mistake that with. Okay, he can whoop everybody. He.

[Bobby Bones]

Not everybody, I say everybody.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Who came up with this foolishness? Who came up with this foolishness?

[Shannon Sharpe]

What foolishness?

[Stephen A. Smith]

No, come on, man. Everybody. NFL's got a Debo.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What?

[Stephen A. Smith]

Everybody. NFL. Scatter. Debo still. Wait, when the last time you played, though?

[Bobby Bones]

A decade.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When last time you played?

[Bobby Bones]

Last time I played? Yeah. Last time I played was 17, 18. We lost Philly. Philly.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Super Bowl. That's a long time ago. And we still.

[Bobby Bones]

I did the same thing you did. Lost Super Bowl.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Do you ever watch Deo workout? Like, his tapes? Like what?

[Shannon Sharpe]

That mean?

[Stephen A. Smith]

I work out, too. Not like that.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't need to work out like that.

[Stephen A. Smith]

That ain't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That ain't my strength. That ain't my forte. But I know I have a certain skill set that I.

[Stephen A. Smith]

So you gonna stay outside and just jab. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Killing.

[Stephen A. Smith]

But you know he coming. Who he coming?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Coming.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Will, you know what? Can I have the ring size cut down?

[Bobby Bones]

So you don't want him to be able to run?

[Stephen A. Smith]

I don't want him to be able to do nothing. I ain't doing nostalgia. No, Everybody gonna be able to. All his people in the corner gonna be butt naked. Ain't gonna be no towels, no T shirt.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It sound like the whole crowd. Nobody believe in me. And it's just how it was when I was growing up. Nobody believe in me. So just.

[Bobby Bones]

How about this? Can we take a poll?

[Stephen A. Smith]

Who got. Oh.

[Bobby Bones]

What? Too bad that ass ain't gonna be in the ring with you, we got Debo.

[Stephen A. Smith]

See, what just happened was the. The. The women who like thugs and like they dudes to come home when they want to, they the ones yelling. All the fellas like Debo. They know you're gonna kill you, though. So you got a select crowd. I like that. I like that. You got a. You got an audience.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Don't worry about it. Just set the fight up, man.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, it's gonna happen.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Just set the fight up.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I'm not a bed man. Can I bet on. I'm not a bad man, but I bet on this one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You bet what?

[Stephen A. Smith]

You heard me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What you said.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I'm not a bed man, but I will bet on this one.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm betting.

[Sterling Sharpe]

Who you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who you betting your money on?

[Stephen A. Smith]

Who you think. Me, I'm betting on Debo in 30 seconds.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But y'all.

[Bobby Bones]

Y'all under the first round, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Over.

[Bobby Bones]

Under the first round.

[Stephen A. Smith]

No, no, no, he gonna run. He gonna run. He in shape now. He gonna run, so he ain't gonna catch in that first round. It's gonna be about round.

[Bobby Bones]

He said he wasn't running.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Oh, he running.

[Bobby Bones]

That's what he said.

[Stephen A. Smith]

That's the philosophy. He gonna run, Debo. He's gonna run.

[Bobby Bones]

Who gonna run? You run.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't never ran for nobody in life. I ain't never ran for nobody.

[Stephen A. Smith]

You ain't never done this, huh? You've done this once or twice.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I've been fighting for. Since 87. What did you talk about?

[Stephen A. Smith]

No, I ain't talking about that type of fight.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What's the difference?

[Stephen A. Smith]

It's a big difference, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y'all scared, first of all, you.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Different ways. What do you mean? We're scared.

[Bobby Bones]

We ain't gotta fight. I ain't scared.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm just saying, man, beat that ass, man. How big he is? We gonna throw.

[Bobby Bones]

They trying to help you out. They trying to. They're trying to talk some sense into.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't need no sense.

[Stephen A. Smith]

No, Devo don't cut no deal.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm gonna take all them chains off your neck when I knock your ass out, too. Have 85 matter. Matter of fact, that's the only thing I want. I give you all that other. Oh, yeah, I like the bracelet. I'm like. You want to take your name, too and call me oo. You want that? You want that cross bracelet? You want that cross bracelet? Oh, I want that cross bracelet for sure. You got.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, well, you know how to get it.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Only way to get it.

[Bobby Bones]

I love it. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you got. You got. Got the right one. I ain't none of them. Other people be scared when you knock them out.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Can I get the third race?

[Bobby Bones]

Mama told me, don't mess with nobody that's scared of you. Cuz they pull a gun or a knife.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm glad I don't got no gun.

[Bobby Bones]

No, I want the.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I want the third one. I want the third one.

[Bobby Bones]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold up. Everybody pick it. What they want?

[Stephen A. Smith]

I want the third one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, pick what you want.

[Stephen A. Smith]

What size shoe you wear?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Left.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I want them.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's funny, y'all. This one, it's funny. Y'all don't believe me, but it's all good.

[Bobby Bones]

I believe in you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'mma shock the world.

[Bobby Bones]

You're gonna shock the world?

[Stephen A. Smith]

I'll shock the world.

[Bobby Bones]

I believe I'm gonna get that bracelet.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm gonna shock the world.

[Bobby Bones]

Hey, that's what I believe.

[Stephen A. Smith]

People ain't cutting no deal, either. He ain't cutting no deal.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, it ain't gonna be no fake fix fight, either.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't care about that.

[Stephen A. Smith]

He don't get down like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, I don't care nothing about that.

[Bobby Bones]

Is that a day date? What are you talking about? Cut a deal? What's the deal?

[Stephen A. Smith]

I'm saying you don't cut deals. You're not gonna. You know, like they did the other thing that we just saw that everybody wanted to see with Paul Tyson. He cut no deal.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, no. This will be the first time I'm actually sanctioned to kill somebody and get away with it.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Dog. Chad. Dog. Don't go in there, dog.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, you. You let that scare you?

[Stephen A. Smith]

It scares me. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. I ain't got.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I ain't got to fight. That scared me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm built different, man.

[Bobby Bones]

Go ahead and get paid. Make sure you go make sure everything in real name. Make sure you put everything in your name, baby.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Hey, can I get some insurance on you?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, make sure.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Keep it cute. All right.

[Bobby Bones]

We still right here. Ain't never hearing opportunity.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Hey, no, you take it off.

[Bobby Bones]

That's what I'm waiting on.

[Sterling Sharpe]

Take it off.

[Bobby Bones]

Take it. Where they do that at?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Do what?

[Bobby Bones]

Check out that chain on the fight. What? Right in your face. I thought he was about to go for the hoodie.

[Nate Thompson]

I was waiting for the set the date, man.

[Bobby Bones]

You.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, you.

[Stephen A. Smith]

It does.

[Bobby Bones]

August. All right.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Can I be your manager?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You going had to show me.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Can I manage you?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh?

[Stephen A. Smith]

How can I manage you? I want to be your manager.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, nah, you don't even know.

[Master P]

I need.

[Stephen A. Smith]

No, no, no. Let me Tell you what I'm going to do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm going let somebody in the crowd be my manager, and you get. You get some of the purse, okay?

[Stephen A. Smith]

Let me tell you what I'm going to do, because I'm his manager, because we gonna blow this fight up. We gonna make a lot of money off this fight because we got some big draw drawers. Not draws, but draws. But I'm gonna make you a lot of money because I'm gonna have every part of your body rented out the bottom of your shoes. I'm going. You're gonna see everything. When he knock you out, I'm gonna have. I'm gonna rent this part out. I'm gonna have everything on you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right?

[Stephen A. Smith]

Boost moment. I got you, dog.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Make all your jokes.

[Stephen A. Smith]

No, I'm dead.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Make all your jokes. But when you fall, I don't wanna. Don't be trying to congratulate me, boy.

[Bobby Bones]

I know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I believed you. I knew you could do it. I don't want to hear none of that from none of y'all.

[Bobby Bones]

You ain't gonna hear from me. You hear from me, I would say, hey, you know, I'm gonna say, show your ass up to work tomorrow.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I'ma climb up under the ring so I can talk to you when you fall.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, you're gonna be the conscience.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I'm gonna get up.

[Bobby Bones]

Stay down.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Don't you get up. Get up, though. You got him.

[Master P]

All right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Don't worry about it.

[Stephen A. Smith]

You killing him with your face.

[Bobby Bones]

I was trying to figure out why not box and something that you do. Why would you want to go, mma?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because I want to. I want to make sure he's comfortable in something that he's good at or he thinks he's good at.

[Bobby Bones]

Also, what I'm going to do, man.

[Master P]

I ain't going to even lie.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't want to, like, punish your face. Break. Break everything in your face. Break. Break your bones or nothing like what I'm doing. I'mma choke you out, and I'mma choke you out, and I'm not going to let go. And the ref go have to choke me out.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Hey, dog. To let you go, dog. He mean this stuff, man, do you see this, dude, man? Ain't no way in the world I'm getting no depot.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That don't scare nobody.

[Stephen A. Smith]

It scares me.

[Bobby Bones]

And as your manager, he afraid for you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, they say the loudest one in the room is the weakest one.

[Stephen A. Smith]

If your manager come in all white.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why are you coming in all white?

[Stephen A. Smith]

Because it ain't gonna be no towel. I'm gonna just flip in the rain.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm tired. I'm tired of talking. Just. Just sit up. Just get the date.

[Bobby Bones]

We gonna set it up. Now. Coming to the stage, Louisiana's own New Orleans on Master P. We got P here.

[Stephen A. Smith]

We got my dog here. That's P. They got my pe. Did you. Did you see when I. When I played Body in the meeting room, I had to educate the youngsters. They didn't. They didn't know nothing about Body. It.

[Nate Thompson]

Come on, man.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Yeah, yeah. So we started off in the morning. Like, whenever I walk in, we play some kind of music. And I had to educate him about We. Body. We bout it.

[Bobby Bones]

Pete, let me ask you this.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

You built this empire on music, and you branched off to do other things. What was the mindset when you started this empire?

[Nate Thompson]

Well, you know, I grew up in the projects, Calio projects out here. And I ain't had nothing. I live with my grandparents, and she had 12 kids. Me and my brother made 14. I just wanted to make it out together. I wanted to give my grandmother a house one day, and that just pushed me. It pushed me, and it pushed me, and I said, whatever they could do, we could do it. And so ever since after then, I just been building and grinding and hustling and went from selling no records to over 100 million records independently.

[Bobby Bones]

But you were one of the first to have a distribution deal that was in your favor. You also was one of the first to have entrepreneurship that wanted to do things outside of music. How did you develop that mindset, though?

[Nate Thompson]

I mean, I guess like anything else like this, man. I guess when you. When you're hungry and you're poor, you can really do your body because you always got to have a wife. Yeah, my wife was. I ain't had nothing. I got to make it up out of here. A lot of people was dying young. A lot of people didn't get opportunities that I was able to get. And I'm like, I'm gonna make the best out of it.

[Sterling Sharpe]

I'm. I'm.

[Nate Thompson]

There's gonna be no limit to my success. And that's what I call my company. No limit.

[Stephen A. Smith]

You know, B and I had an experience together. I mean, he's at the top of his game. And you talking about an athlete, you know, you talking about two sports. But this man was.

[Bobby Bones]

Was.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Was multi. Multi. Just understand with the talent. So he came to Dallas to play. They had to travel for the Mavericks.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Stephen A. Smith]

And when I tell you he had it, he had it right so they called me over there to Holly Pete because Pete still had that hood in. What I mean by that is he. You know, he went to practice and. Yeah, you can't go to practice deep. You can't do that, dog. Like, be like, man, I'm giving them buckets, and I'm doing this, I'm doing that, man. What's going on? I say, dog, tell me about what happened, man. You know, we was running wind sprints, and I was one of them. I said, you can't do that.

[Nate Thompson]

Yeah.

[Stephen A. Smith]

And I was doing it. You can't do that. You know the stars that they have, and you got to let them make it.

[Master P]

Yeah.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Because this is their team. Do your thing, but you got to let them make. You're not a politician.

[Bobby Bones]

Absolutely.

[Nate Thompson]

It's politics and everything.

[Bobby Bones]

Politics.

[Nate Thompson]

Think about it, right? And that's what makes the trailblazers. Trailblazers. We gotta think outside the box.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Yeah.

[Nate Thompson]

I've always thought outside the box. When I was telling, you know, Dion, when I was in Dallas, right. It was tough because I know I.

[Bobby Bones]

Had what it took. I had it.

[Nate Thompson]

I mean, so I grew up with Steve Nash. So, you know me, I'm already on him. Like, man, Steve, like, man, you need to chill out. But, you know, that's the way we was raised down here. It is like, we were just raised tough. Like, a lot of kids today don't have to go through what we had to go through. And at that time, New Orleans was the murder capital of the world, and it was, like, a privilege to be able to go outside and play basketball. And so I always was just tough when I played. And then I was, like, one of the fastest ones on the team. I'm number one in all the drills. I'm thinking I'm in, right? But like Dion said, that don't matter. I mean, we got to get this man a round of applause for what you did in college football, my brother, because this is what I want to tell y'all, right? This man actually changed the whole game of college football because they never wanted to see us do what you was able to do, bro.

[Sterling Sharpe]

And.

[Nate Thompson]

And it's incredible, because now when I walked into this man locker room, I was like, man, hold up. I went.

[Bobby Bones]

They got a barber. They got all this stuff.

[Nate Thompson]

I'm like, man, this is crazy. This, man, that really changed the culture right there. This was the hood for real, when it was love, which is, like, you see everybody having fun, and I think the difference is a lot of players want to play for you because they want that type of atmosphere.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Yes, sir. And I appreciate you for coming to support it.

[Nate Thompson]

Yeah, man, you know, I gotta.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Yeah, we like people like Outside lies in. In Boulder. You've been there. Shake it. It looks like the BET Awards, everybody.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, Pete, listen, you've launched everything, bro, from music, the food products, even the basketball league. And you've been able to build generational wealth. What advice do you have to the young artists and young entrepreneurs looking to do some of the same things you've done, especially those right here from your hometown?

[Nate Thompson]

Well, first, y'all put your trust and faith and go. That's the most important thing. And don't be afraid to put the work in because they say work without faith is dead. And so a lot of people think, oh, I'm gonna just pray and go. No, you got to really put the work in. You gotta grind. You gotta go to work. And then God gonna give you all a those blessings. If you do right, you have integrity. Because one thing that I learned in this, in this world, this game of life, you know, you have to have integrity because that's doing the right thing when nobody's looking. So most of us only want to do the right thing when somebody's looking. So when you do the right thing and nobody's looking, you're gonna be all right.

[Bobby Bones]

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[Stephen A. Smith]

What's up everyone? Julie Swearbinks here along with former NHL player Nate Thompson. We're doing a new podcast together. Here we go. The name Energy Line with Nate and jsb. Each week we'll get together and talk about hockey life. All topics are fair game, right? Exactly. And you'll never know who will drop by to join us. Julie is pretty well connected. She. She has text threads going that you wouldn't believe. Listen to Energy Line with Nate and jsb on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Justin Pennick]

What's up everyone? It's Justin Penick from John Boy Media, the host of the Football Today podcast with Bobby Skinner and Chris Rose. We roll three times a week on Mondays, on Wednesdays, on Fridays. Breaking down everything you need to know about the NFL. We're gearing up for the NFL NFL playoffs. I hope you can join us. Join in with us three times a week. Listen to Football Today on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast and you will be glad you did.

[Matt Castle]

Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirrorball trophy from Dancing With a Star. So where else you can find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything. Listen to Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.