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Nightcap Hour 1: D Wade CHECKS Pat Beverley + Charles Barkley goes VIRAL Signing an AUTOGRAPH + Browns owner Jimmy Haslem WALKS BACK DeShaun Watson COMMENTS + Andrew Berry WILL SPEND Time with Ty Simpson
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Announcer
Why do we try so hard?
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Shannon Sharpe
So I can breathe. Why do you need to breathe? So I can think.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
If I can breathe. If I can breathe, I can think. I can think.
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Shannon Sharpe
If I can think if I can
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
think, then I can win the Beast
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Announcer
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Shannon Sharpe
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Oh, yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
I don't know who the f. I deal with this.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Hey, but who gonna clean that up, huh?
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Shannon Sharpe
They Gonna clean this issue up. Cause the cleaning people came early today. They should have did this bull job last night.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Oh, yeah, man.
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Shannon Sharpe
Look at. Man, look at this mess.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
You good? You good? Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Listen, man. Two million, man. That's an. That's an amazing feat, man, you know?
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. They got 2 million pieces of my floor.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Hey, hey. That's two men out the mud, too. That's two men off the. Huh? No.
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Shannon Sharpe
No.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Help.
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Shannon Sharpe
No, no, no, no, no. We didn't take over no part. We didn't take up nobody that already had a million. A million five.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
No, no, no, no, no. We grew this thing.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Zero. You know, JDub from Akron and. And.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
And.
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Shannon Sharpe
And, uh, Dr. Frankie. All those. That. That. The OGs. That. With the first night that we had, like, 300 and each in each night, we inc. Guys, we can't thank y' all enough. This ain't possible without you guys. And thank you guys for making this possible. Thank you for helping Nightcap become the success. All the awards that you see behind us, hopefully we're fortunate enough to get nominated again and win even more awards. That's only because of you. But even if we don't win, we feel that we're our success because we've done what many people we. We've created a space, and now we were the first in the space. And now, you see, there are more. There are 10, 15 people that come on in this. In the same space that we've done. So, Ocho, we're trendsetter. We're pioneers. But by no stretch of the imagination are we done. We came to get better, to. To keep creating great content, to keep entertaining and informing and educating people. And so we're going to keep that. We're going to keep that. We're going to keep that going. So, guys, thank you so very, very much again. I can barely see this bull jacket on my floor, man. Ocho, you see the thing, man? It look like a. And. And pardon the pod.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
A bomb.
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Shannon Sharpe
Now I'm gonna have to take another shower. Be number. Shower number three today.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Were you taking another shower just because of some confetti?
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I ain't gonna go to bed. We had this bull. Hey, man.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Hey, one thing about you, boy, you gonna waste some water, boy. You hear me? You gonna wait.
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Shannon Sharpe
I ain't wasting no water.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
I'm curious. I'm curious to see what your water bill look like at the. At the end of the month.
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Shannon Sharpe
It ain't that bad. They come. They don't come to wash the Car but once a week. So. I mean once a month. So we good. But. Huh? Oh, man. The. The table, the floor, the hell.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Oh. Oh, my goodness. Oh, yeah, it's. It's bad.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Oh, look. Oh, look at your flow. Okay. Hey, hey, hey. It's a sell, man.
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Shannon Sharpe
I have a drink up here that I got stuff all in my dream.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Hey, it's a celebration tonight, man. So it's cool. It's good. It's good.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Hey, they gonna be here cleaning. They gonna be here for a while too. Oh. Yo, we got to start with some basketball news. D. Wade isn't letting Pat bear recent assertion that James Harden is a better player than him go unchecked. D. Wade fired back saying he'd never faced him in his prime and still couldn't F with him. With the older version. You don't know the wrath of me as a player. You don't know that portion. And you still couldn't F with me being. But Pat dog is a bit. Pat is a dog. Pat is good defender. And Pat had an incredible career. But no, certain conversations can't have, you can't have. Bro, I'm just telling the truth. Don't ever fix your mouth to say anybody is better than me when you wasn't better than me. Like, you can't do that. You're talking about a better player. You're talking about every aspect of the game. Pat Bell responded, damn Flash went free. The truth is the truth and you wrong. I was a way better three pointer shooter than you. Our career three point percentage wasn't even close. D. Wade shot under 30%. Pat Bev is a career 37.1 shooter. Seven and three against you. Love gang. Wade responded. You see the little og he look at like, really? Really? Dude.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Hey, hey.
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Shannon Sharpe
What you thinking?
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Listen, I think about D. Wade, obviously, championships and one of the things when it comes to comparison and you know, comparison is the thief of joy, you know, especially when it comes to certain players. D. Wade, James Harden, very, very good. Very, very good. Their styles of players are somewhat different. We've seen, you know, we're completely different, but we've seen D. Wade do it in the playoffs. We've seen him show up big time in, in, in games. And then obviously the knock on Harden would be with him, you know, obviously playoff time, him disappearing, not having high output as far as scoring is involved, his point total being low when it mattered most. But obviously you can't take away the greatness from from both of them in, in what they did. Obviously, when it comes to comparisons, the first thing people are going to do as you've, as you've taught me, is accolades matter, rings matter, what you've done in the postseason matters. So obviously I think most people would lean towards D. Wade and, and when you, when you remove the accolades and what they've done as far as championships and playoff wins, then it comes down to preference on whose style of play that you like more.
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Shannon Sharpe
Correct. I agree with you. Look, the only, the only pushback. Yes, I would have is that when D. Wade said, you can't say that because unless you were a better player than me. So in other words, because Pat Bell wasn't a better player than you, he was not allowed to have an opinion. You do realize, like what we see in sports media today, a lot of that is opinion based shows like First Taken Undisputed and all these shows that have popped up, they have two people, three people, four people up there and they're offering their opinions. That is Pat Bell's opinion. I disagree. I think D. Wade, is he the score that James Harden was? Probably not. Was he a better rebounder? Yes. Was he a better defender? Yes. Was he a better. Was. James Harden is an own the ball guy. He had the ball in his hand. D. Wade played off the ball mainly. He was a better slasher, he was a better cutter. So there were aspects that D. Wade was better than Harden. There are aspects that Harden was better than D. Wade, but the only pushback. And I love that D. Wade came back and he broke it down and he explained it. His side of the story. Says like you looking at it like this, say that's your preference. You like that James had to step back. And you like that James average 35, 36 and had that great streak. You like that. But to say that he's a better player, I'm gonna need you to give me some. Read some factual information of why he was a better player. My only thing, the only thing that I push back on D. Wade. And this has been an old adage for athletes, you know, if you weren't better or you didn't play, you can't have opinion. It doesn't make it right. It doesn't make it wrong. And Pat Bell might sincerely believe that James Harden is a better player. Because if we have an athlete and can't nobody, if Tom Brady said, bro, because you want a better player, you can't critique or say this or that, well, can't nobody check him. Cause they who Gonna say, well, was a better player.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Nobody can. Nobody can't say anything.
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Shannon Sharpe
So if that's the case, if that's the case, D. Wade, ain't nobody doing in this space can say anything about your game other than probably Shaq and Charles Barkley, because those are the only players that really theoretically have a legit case that's in this space that could say, you know what? I was. I was Shaq and maybe Chuck. So that's the only pushback. And that you had to learn that. I've had to learn that after getting in this space, after having so many athletes getting upset with me because I'm like, bro, that's just my opinion. I'm not saying that you're not a bad. That you're a bad player, but based on my eye test, I think X is better than Y. I mean, and that's. And that's okay. And so I. And. And I've gotten away from that. I didn't really have a problem with. I mean, I didn't really have a problem and people critiquing. And it's. It's easy to say because my thing is of, like, I hear guys talk a lot now. Oo. And I'm like, well, damn, if it's as easy as it's saying, why you
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
do it, you do it. That's a good one.
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Shannon Sharpe
That.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
That's a good one.
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Shannon Sharpe
When I'm talking about things, a lot of things that I tell guys to do when I play the tight end position of receiver, I kind of did it. So I have a pretty good idea or understanding what they should be doing or how they should go about doing. Doesn't make me always right, but that's my opinion on certain things. But I do love. Look, these guys today, you can say they're sensitive or whatever, but they're not going to let guys take shots at them or what they feel is a shot from a distance. They're going to respond. And the thing is, Ocho, is that we don't know how the guys in the 80s 90s or the early 2000s would have responded because there was no social media. So it was basically sports writers saying, well, this guy Jordan is better than this guy, or that guy's better than that guy. Now, you got people, some played the game, some didn't, but you got it. If you got a phone, you get an opinion now and your opinion goes out because somebody. Somebody's gonna screenshot it or somebody gonna clip it or retweet it, repost it, retweet it, whatever the coach case may be. And so now.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Oh yeah, absolutely. That, that's why, that's why the whole point, especially based on who it is before you hit the send button, the bigger the name, the bigger the platform, the more reach. Huh? That and I, for me, yes, I kind of love social media because it allows everyone to have a voice now. It allows everyone to have an opinion now. And these, these ongoing debates, whether it be. Whether it be, whether it be football, whether it be basketball, whether it be soccer, I like it. I think it's healthy because now we get to understand on, on, on who people like, what preference it is that they like. You know, when it comes to style of play and comparisons, hell, the Michael Jordan, the LeBron debate. Yeah. Now we have the D. Wade, you know, the James Harden debate. And obviously an ongoing one that will probably go on long after the done playing is the Christiana Ronaldo in the Messi debate. You know, it's it. Those are never ending debates and people will pick a side based on the preference and who they like more. Regardless of accolades, regardless of resume, regards to championships, regards to trophies, and just the way. That's just the way it will be.
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Shannon Sharpe
Ocho. But it's always been like that. When you take four guys to wide receiver at the Pro bowl, what are you doing? You're saying in your opinion this guy had a better season than that guy. When I take a guy that's first team, all NBA, second team, all NBA, third team, all NBA. What am I saying, Ocho? In my opinion, this guy had a better season than you. First to second team, all defensive. This guy had a better season than you, mvp. It is my estimation that this guy was more valuable this season to his team than you were this season to your team. That's a matter of opinion because we've seen guys not score as much as a guy and win the MVP as opposed to a guy that's averaging 35, 36, 37. So in their opinion. So basically all of this stuff when you're dealing with, it's an opinion, basically.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
It's not, it's not factual.
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Shannon Sharpe
Okay, what service provider? You. I like this, I like this service provider. Okay. It's my opinion. Doesn't make it true. But I like, I thought D. Wade. I didn't expect this. I didn't expect D. Wade. I thought D. Wade, like once he addressed it, he was gonna be done with it, but he came back again. But obviously, you know, a. I think the thing is, is that when, when you critique historically great players. And when they put so much time into it, they look at it like, who are you to critique me or my play?
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
And this is the thing. Let me tell you why D Wave responded. If it was a pundit, if it was the analyst that's in one ear and out the other. But now you have a player that played the game with you at the highest level, that was really good at what they did, obviously on the defensive end as opposed to the offensive end, but. Oh, I got to respond to this. This how you feel? Well, let me, let me give you the factuals on how I really feel regards to what your opinion is. So I think that's why D Ray responded. If it was anybody else, I wouldn't even. He wouldn't respond because.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't. I don't. Oh, well, first of all, I mean, I don't think they're going that in depth. I mean, obviously Pat Bear played with James Harden, so there's some familiarity. There's a. I don't know how close they are friends, but he played on the same team with James Harden for a number of years, and so he probably has a fondness for James Harden, not to say he doesn't have a fondness for D. Wade. In his mind, I really believe that Pat Bell believed that James Harden is a better basketball player than Dwyane Wade. I believe that. Now, look, he's getting back into this space and congratulations, Pat, because we've had Pat Bell bone and he's unbelievable and hopefully he can pick right up where he left off, get back going because we need Pat Bell in this space. He, he's, he understands the game of basketball and he. I value his opinion.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Absolutely.
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Shannon Sharpe
I don't have to agree. It just like people, they. I like to think that they value our opinion, Ocho, although they don't have to agree with us. And just because you don't agree with us all the time, I don't feel that makes my opinion any less valuable. Valuable or valid. This is what I think. Okay, you can agree or you can disagree, but I think, But I, but I think sometimes, you know, people. People really do get upset and take it to heart.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Well, the players, the players you're talking about, they, they take it hard for sure. Right. But I have, I have a question Just, just for, just for clarity, you know, in chat, I would love to see your answers as well in the, in, you know, in, in the comments section. Let's take championships. Let's take playoff success out of it, basketball player, skill set, value to said team that you played on during their prime. Who's the better player? With the eye test. Just. Just the eye test. If you're a basketball fan, who's a better player? Forget championship, who's the better player?
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Shannon Sharpe
Well, let me ask you a question. Who's the richest man? If we take money out, we got to have something to say somebody's better. Because I think the thing is that when we look at it, you look at D. Wade and what he did. You look at James Harden and what he did, and D. Wade made a great point. For the most part. He played a little point guard, but that wasn't making his title. James Harden, even when he was it, even when he was in okc. Okc, he would have the ball a lot because when he came in, they would take Russ out. And sometimes even when they put him back in, especially in the third quarter when they was closing, they trusted James Harden with the ball. When he went to Houston, he always had the ball. Even when he went to Brooklyn, they moved Kyrie off the ball and hard on the ball. When he left the net, the Nets and went to Philly, he had the ball. When he went to the Clippers, he had the ball. So there's. They're so different. If you wanted to say like a Jordan and a Kobe and a D way because all of those guys primarily played off the ball, I think you would have a more compelling argument because all those guys being Obviously Kobe and LeBron and Jordan defended at an elite level. I think seven, eight, nine times. All defensive first teams. I think Jordan one Jordan did win a defensive player of the year. Kobe did not win one of those. Neither did D. Wade. D. Wade was an all defensive player. It's kind of hard when guys don't play the same position or don't play similar to is so different completely.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
To is more run after the catch. Randy could run after the catch. Randy was more of a moss. You jump over the top of you or deep threat. But it's so. It's. It's really hard to compare. Damn. It's hard to compare. It's hard to compare Patrick Mahomes and Tom Brady. Tom Brady throws so much from the pocket. Patrick Mahomes is all over the place. He can throw from the pocket, but rolling left, rolling right. He gonna try anything. Brady's a little bit more cautious with the football than some of these other guys. But I love D. Wade's response. I love how he broke it down. I love he said hey, look, I was more of a combo guard. James is more of a true point guard. James probably the better scorer than me, but hey, rebounding, defending. Nah, I like it. I ain't giving you that. And you know, both are all top 75 players. So in the 80 year history of the NBA, they're 70 there. 70. There are the 75 greatest players based on the panel selection. D. Wade and James Harden. They're in that room. They're in a. They're in a very select room. I don't know, probably 5,000, 5,500, 6,000 players have played in the NBA. And to say you're one of the absolute best, I think that's, That's.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
That's. Oh, man, that's. That's. You. You have to nitpick, especially when it comes to players at the top 75 all time in, in, in, in. In history. You got to nitpick at the point when it comes to the difference and what separates the two.
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Shannon Sharpe
But here's the thing, Ocho. If we're not nitpicking, it's not even close. You see, we got a nitpick. Yeah, that's. That's the whole. Because if you not nitpicking, what is. What are we even discussing? Why are we even having a conversation if we can't nitpick? Because if it's a foregone conclusion, why are we even having a discussion? I mean, Ace, there's a video going viral of Charles Barkley getting into a car outside of New York City. Hotel Ojo. Let's take a listen to what Chuck said.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
King of the town.
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Announcer
Why do we try so hard?
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
So I can breathe.
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Shannon Sharpe
Why do you need to breathe? So I can think.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
If I can breathe.
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Shannon Sharpe
If I can breathe, I can think.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
If I can think.
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Shannon Sharpe
If I can think.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
If I can think, then I can win.
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Shannon Sharpe
Meet the Beast Rated r. In theaters April 10th.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
So good.
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Shannon Sharpe
Your bill, ladies.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
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Shannon Sharpe
Seriously, Isis, I said first. Don't be silly. You'll not be silly.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
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Shannon Sharpe
Shoot.
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Shannon Sharpe
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Shannon Sharpe
Truck. Hey, man. Can be waiting. It's my second time trying, my first time here. Please, sir. All right, I'm doing one. That's it.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Use the same pan.
- [29:11]
Shannon Sharpe
I said one. You understand English? That's one. Thank you, Mr. Bar. Oh, my God. I, I don't have no problem with what Chuck said. This is. It's a problem, Ocho. It's a problem because you go somewhere when I was at CBS or when I worked at Fox or when I worked at espn, people are outside with jerseys and glossy photos and blanks. Want you to sign a blank so they can run it off and just print as many as Shannon Sharp 84 if they want. No, if, if you want to put a dinner napkin on the, on, on the Internet and try to sell that. But if anybody gonna be making money on my signature.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, I, I get it.
- [30:04]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm going, I'm going to an authorized signing, right? I mean, people don't get that. Yeah, I, I, Yeah, bro, he. They don't. They're not valuing that. They want you to sign that so they can go get money. I don't know why people don't understand that. They're not fans, they're sellers. That's not a small. That's not a dad and his kid. That's not a mom and her son. That's not a family. They got glossy ass photos. The same photos with the same NFL labeling on it that I sign. When I go to signing the same jerseys, they come out there with blank 84 and expect me to sign it.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
You know, I understand, you know where Chuck is coming from. I also understand where you're coming from. But, but to me, the market is the market based on who you are. You got that yellow jacket, you hear me? So your marketing and your value when it comes to signing cars, whether it's privately or with a company, your market value is what it is. No matter what. Charles Barkley market value when it comes to signing, whether he signs all of them or doesn't sign any of them, his market value is still what it is. And he commands a dollar that he commands regardless. So that's why when it comes to signing autographs, I sign them all. I sign them all or as many as I can.
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Shannon Sharpe
You saturated market. You lower the value.
- [31:22]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
No, you said the value is already set. You can't lower the value based on what?
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Shannon Sharpe
No, it's not. Yeah, no, it is your value, Ocho, your value would be higher if you didn't sign everything. Why you think Tom Brady? Why you think these guys don't sign? Wait a minute. What do you mean they don't? No, they don't. They don't sign cards. They got a Jordan. Got it. I mean, Jordan can't sign. A lot of these guys can't sign cards because they've signed
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
their values already. Set their back again. I just said you're back. You have a gold jacket. You are Shannon. You are Shannon Sharp. I don't care if you went out there and signed 100 cards. Your value is what it is based on what you've already done. You've already done it.
- [32:09]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
You've already put the work in, but
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Shannon Sharpe
the value remains high. Because I don't sign. There's not. There's not an influx out there. I signed every three, five years. If I signed. If I signed every car. So what's the value? All you doing is lowering the value.
- [32:23]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
You're not understanding. Your value is based on what you've done, not because of the influx of your product out there.
- [32:30]
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho, who wants to buy a card that everybody can get their hands on? Who wants to buy a Jersey? No, you don't.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Oh, I got. I got a question. I got a. Okay, you know what? I was. I was gonna go somewhere else with that. I'm not gonna go down. I'm not gonna go there.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. There's a reason. There's a reason why a one on one, a 125, a one of 50. There's a reason why that costs more. Why does that cost more, Ocho? Because there's only 50. There's only 25. There's only 5. There's only 10. It's simple mathematics, you know?
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
No, no. Hey, this. You not understanding who you are. And I got to sit here and break it down to you, who you are.
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Shannon Sharpe
You.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
You a Super bowl winning champion. Three time Super Bowl.
- [33:10]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [33:10]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Champion. Hall of Fame player.
- [33:12]
Shannon Sharpe
267.
- [33:14]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Your value, yes. Your market value when it comes to signing is what it is, no matter what's out there. Because you can command that based on what you've done. Not because there's the influx of your product already out there that's already signed. You missing the. You missing the point on who you is?
- [33:31]
Shannon Sharpe
No, I got the point. Let me ask you a question. Is marijuana cheaper now or Was it cheaper 30 years, 30 years ago? Why? Because it's acceptable now. Everybody can get their hands on it, thank you very much. Alcohol. Once they made alcohol. Once they made alcohol, they did away with the prohibition because guess what? You had to sneak and get it. They charge you whatever you want because you didn't have access to get it. That's how it works. Let me tell you something now. Let me.
- [34:06]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. That same weed used to get way back in the day, right there. One too many strands. Now, I don't know nothing about weed, but I know there's multiple strands of weed that you can get. You can get something that's cheap, and you can get some that's extremely high. So it's.
- [34:23]
Shannon Sharpe
What about the ones that we can get? What if you had that strand that was extremely high way back then? How much would it cost? A brick. How much does a brick cost now compared to back then?
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
A brick back then was about 23. Now it's about 32. And I'm telling you, from experience, well,
- [34:38]
Shannon Sharpe
first of all, a brick. Hold on, let me see. You know what? I'm going to Google this.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Hey, I'm telling you now, Uncle, I used to be. Hey, listen, I. I don't mean to put my business out there, but I'm. When I. When I was 16, 17, you know, I used to be a runner for the Sinaloa cartel, so I could tell you how much a brick is, because I used to have. I had to package everything, huh? But I'm telling you, uncle, you not understand. I. I understand what you mean. I understand what you're saying, but you're not the average player. Whereas if. If you sign publicly for a few people, that is going to change your market value because of what you've already done. Your value is set based on what you did way back yonder. Huh? Listen to me when I tell you. I'm telling you what I know. I ain't tell you what I heard.
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Shannon Sharpe
Based on the location and supply chain, 4,000 on the low to 70,000. It's called supply and demand. The greater the supply, the less the demand. The more the demand, the greater the price. So if there's not 50,000 Shannon Sharp jerseys, if there's not 25,000 helmets, if there's not A hundred thousand cards. What does that do to the market? Oo,
- [35:53]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
hey, hey, I, I, I just, I hear what you're saying, but when it, when it come to you, when it come to certain individuals in our sport that played our sport, that value is not changing. When it comes to certain, certain individuals. Special. I, I mean, I don't, I'm not, I'm, I'm not here to disclose numbers. Right? I'm, I'm not here to do that. But when I do a signing, when I do a signing, which I, I just had one in Boston. I did some at Tom Brady's vault, and I did some with Anthony Munoz and Boomer Size in, in Cincinnati, I think, maybe two days ago. I ain't got to work the rest of the year. I ain't got to work the rest of the year. And I know your numbers double, triple that. I, I, I, I, I, I know
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Shannon Sharpe
it does, yes, but you know what, ocho? I wanted 6x. It ain't good enough to triple. That's why I don't go. I got a set number now. If I'm in that area, they say, well, okay, Shannon, this is what, this is. Okay, this is what I normally charge. If I'm in that area, I'll take that. But if I gotta leave, I'm not leaving for that number.
- [37:01]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
I understand.
- [37:02]
Shannon Sharpe
That's how you keep, that's how you keep your value. Because here's the thing, what you don't want to have happen, man. I got Ocho to do a car signing for.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Oh, no. Oh, that number don't change. That number don't change. See, you hear me? I, I, I like, I, I like what you said, but I, I'm, I, I hate, and I just hate telling people no, especially when I'm, when I'm in public and, and people show up there somewhere, they standing outside some standing outside somewhere really long. I've always, I've always been like that because I, I understand my market value is what it is. So if someone's asked me to do a private signing or, or public signing based on the market value, based on what I've already done, it is what it is and it's not changing.
- [37:44]
Shannon Sharpe
Oo if somebody came with, without what a shot like this. Oh, can you sign this? Yes. But when they come with a helmet and I see they got a bag full of helmets and they got a bag full of balls and they got a, and they got, they got an album full of cards, they're selling that
- [38:02]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
they're not afraid, you know, What I do do. I like that you just said that. I say who you want it addressed to. I like that you say that. I always say to somebody, I'm not signing. I'm not just signing my name. It's just going about my business. I will address it to you, to a family member, to your son, to your daughter. I do do that. But, you know, I understand where you're coming from. I just think you're underestimating who you are in that space. Because I think regardless of what you sign outside of that space, when it's time to get paid, your value is what it is. And ain't nothing changing that.
- [38:35]
Shannon Sharpe
Nothing. No. And I'm trying to keep my value.
- [38:38]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
It's gonna be high regardless. Cause you that. Oh, my bad. You.
- [38:42]
Shannon Sharpe
You, you.
- [38:43]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
You. Him. I mean, it's what it is. I'm trying to get you to see it, but you're not understanding.
- [38:49]
Shannon Sharpe
I meet people in the airport, and they. Sometimes they come on the plane and they. They got their ticket, you know, sometimes flight attendants, they done ran my ticket off. Could you say I signed it? I ain't got no problem with that. My son is a fan so far. And Z, you know, his name is X, Y and Z. My husband is a fan. X, Y, and Z. My brother, my dad. No problem. Ocho. I see you got 25 helmets. I see you got a sleeve of cards. I see you gotta. You got a duffel bag of football, and they flat. You're not a fan. You're a seller. Hey, I don't know what people don't say, hey, so are you providing? I would want to know, chat you provide your services. Let's just say, for the sake of argument, somebody comes up to you and they say, you know what? You a plumber? Oh, you. You a plumber? Oh, they see you driving like, hey, I got a clog. Can you come unclog it? You gonna say, hell, no. Doctors don't render their services free. Lawyers don't give out information for free. Trust me, I know about lawyers. I had to deal with them a lot over the last year, so I don't want to deal with them no more. I dealt with them a lot, and it's for free. Even text messages cost. I don't text nothing. Hey, I find out sooner, later.
- [40:05]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Hey,
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Shannon Sharpe
all that talking every day. Ojo, I talk once a week. Oh, hell no.
- [40:17]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Hey,
- [40:20]
Shannon Sharpe
so. But. But I. But I. I get. But here's the thing. And also the problem with Joe, he said he was gonna sign one. You see, if you Don't. If you don't sign a thousand, right? Your.
- [40:31]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
- [40:31]
Shannon Sharpe
Now, I just signed. I just signed 50. I just signed 100. I don't sign 101.
- [40:39]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Hey, I understand it.
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Shannon Sharpe
How do I. How. How do I win if I sign up? If I sign a hundred, what's 101? What's 102? Next thing you know, if you keep. If you go 1, 2, 1, 3, 1, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. Next thing you know, you're at 200. What's 201? Shannon, you're not gonna be everybody. Everybody, Ocho.
- [41:00]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah. Yeah.
- [41:03]
Shannon Sharpe
And then people, they try to get you. Ocho Garden to the signing. Hey, you want to take your ass aside? Yeah. That's all. That's all I'm saying. When people don't have cards or helmets or things like that, Ocho, I ain't got no problem. I don't. Cause I believe they are. Sincerely, fans. When you got flat footballs and you open up a sleeve and you know what I'm talking about. That photo album, they got cards or they got. They got jerseys or they got blanks. They just got the number four. And you expect me to sign that?
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah. Hey, hey.
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Shannon Sharpe
That.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
That means you'd be hurt. You'd be hurting collectors. Collectors feeling sometimes, Monk. Sometimes they, you know, they. They genuinely want. They are your autograph to be able to keep and say, look what I have years from now, years down the line.
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Announcer
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
So I can breathe.
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Shannon Sharpe
Why do you need to breathe? So I can think.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
If I can breathe.
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Shannon Sharpe
If I can breathe, I can think.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
I can think.
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Shannon Sharpe
If I can think.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
If I can think, then I can win.
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Shannon Sharpe
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Shannon Sharpe
Your bill, ladies.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
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Shannon Sharpe
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Shannon Sharpe
Shoot.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Yeah. Browns owner Jimmy Haslam walked back his swing and miss comment on deshaun Watson from last year, pointing to his injuries and smackdown suspension while expressing optimism about his future. If not, it's not for lack of effort. Okay? I mean, I don't think anybody in our organization would question his effort, his toughness, everything he's put into the job. The reality is he's had major injuries, his shoulder tore his Achilles twice. So he's been really ravaged by injuries and that along with 11 game suspension kept him from playing. Desean have a great chance, a fresh start with an offensive minded coach who has in the past been able to work with all kinds of different quarterbacks and make them successful. So desean has a great chance to do that now. Mary Kay Cavity tweeted Owner Jimmy hasn't believed it's possible for desean Watson to go from swinging miss to a home run if he starts this year. Ocho, why is this? Why is owner Jimmy Haslam doing a complete 180? Because he was a, you know, he was a swing and miss. We failed miserably. It set the franchise back to, for lack of a better quote, a paraphrasing here to now he got a chance to start.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
You know why? Because the money that's on the book still no matter what. Because the money that's on the books, he understands what Deshaun, what he has to pay to Sean Watson this season. I'm not sure at what point, you know, with that contract because I don't have the numbers in front of me. But he understands based on what he's what he's being played this year where they can cut him. You know, he's probably eat probably might be the starter until the bottom falls out. I think he does have a good chance. No disrespect, I'm just being honest. I think he probably will be the starter, you know, until the bottom falls out and they have no choice but to push the door back in. I think when Shador gets that job back, at any point, if things don't go right for the Sean, I think he's going to be the starter for the foreseeable future and I think that they're just, they're just going to part ways with the Sean after the season. That's just how I see it playing
- [47:39]
Shannon Sharpe
out, especially Another year on the books, doesn't he? Or this was the last year. This is the last year. So. Yeah, I told you.
- [47:55]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
That's why he's, that's why he's saying that. He understands that. He understand that. Listen, I'm gonna give you one more shot. I'm going to see if you can be the quarterback for us for the future.
- [48:04]
Shannon Sharpe
If not, try to get something out of Mitchell, huh? Try to get something out of it.
- [48:09]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Absolutely, absolutely. And, and then for the, and for, for DeSean Watson's sake, I'm hoping he does play well. And if not, and not for the Cleveland Browns, maybe to be the starter somewhere else next year. But as far as I can see it, if things don't go well when desean is the quarterback, if he does start as a starting quarterback, I just don't see someone making that much money being unhealthy and sit behind someone else. I, I just, I, I don't see that part.
- [48:35]
Shannon Sharpe
I think they give him every opportunity to start. They give him every opportunity to start. I mean, he is a veteran quarterback. He's smart enough. I mean, look, we all believe that DeSean Watson, his last year in Houston, that he started, he was a top five quarterback. I don't think we get any argument. We don't get any pushback. He led the league in passing, took them those teams to the playoffs. And, and, and, and, and, and no quarterback in the history of the NFL had become available. Non injury at that age ever in the history of the NFL, every quarterback had become available. Peyton Manning injury. Drew Brees injury. Tom Brady was in year 20. But I'm talking about, you talk about a guy that's 26 years old just came off the, just came off. No injuries had just come off leading the league in passing. Those guys don't become ever available ever.
- [49:26]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Unless you plan, hey, unless you playing the video game. That's it.
- [49:34]
Shannon Sharpe
That's it. And so I agree with you, Ocho. I think, I think the Cleveland Browns give this young man every opportunity to start and to try to like, bro, we spent 200, we spent a, we spent two. A quarter of a billion. And basically we got 10, maybe 11 wins out of it. See if we can get a play out. Let's see if we can get some playoffs.
- [49:53]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
We're gonna give you one last shot.
- [49:56]
Shannon Sharpe
This one last shot. And I don't care how well he plays, I don't think he comes back.
- [50:02]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Listen, they turn, they turn the reigns over to two. They turn the reins over the two.
- [50:08]
Shannon Sharpe
And so, and I wish that he didn't suffer those injuries. I think 11 games. Ocho, we talked about it. You gotta play this thing. Drop back passing and throwing with your quarterback guru whisper or whatever you guys want to call him. That's not the same as playing in the NFL. Cause remember, Ocho, his last year in Houston, he didn't play. So. He didn't play that year. He missed the first 11 games. He only, I think back then they were only playing 16 games, so he missed five games. So he missed. He missed 11 games. He comes back, he hurts his shoulder, then he tears his Achilles. So really, I don't even know if he's played a season since he, since this last season that he actually.
- [50:54]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
In Houston. In Houston. No, no, he hadn't had a full season yet. No,
- [51:00]
Shannon Sharpe
he might not have had a season if you combine all of them together. How many games. How many games has he played for Cleveland? Cause remember, Ocho, he missed the entire season his last year because of everything that was going on. So he missed the entire last year.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Mm.
- [51:26]
Shannon Sharpe
He's played 19 total games.
- [51:28]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
So that. What?
- [51:29]
Shannon Sharpe
That's, that's 17 plus two. So that's what he's played. He's played. He's played two games. More than a nine played a season
- [51:36]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
and two preseason game. Basically. That's it.
- [51:40]
Shannon Sharpe
Basically. Over how many years?
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Sponsor Voice 2
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Shannon Sharpe
What was his last. What was his last year in, In Houston. His last, his last year in Houston was 2020. So he didn't play in 2020. He played five games in 21. Okay. 2022 season. How many games? Six. Six. Okay. 2023 season.
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Announcer
Six games.
- [52:09]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. Okay. Wow. And missed all the last year.
- [52:18]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yep. Hey.
- [52:22]
Shannon Sharpe
So 2021. 2020 was his last full season. 2021. He didn't play. He played six games. He played six games. He Played seven games. He played no games. He's played 19 games in five years. Tell me the player in any sport that can play that, that, that, that's
- [52:44]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
at the top,
- [52:46]
Shannon Sharpe
can play 19 games in a five games stretch.
- [52:51]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Hey. Yeah. Yes. Huh? Come here. Say hi. Say hi to him. Come on, say hi. Take your finger out your mouth. Say hello. Say hi.
- [53:04]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, Fred.
- [53:06]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Say hi. I can't hear you. You good? Okay, dad, Gotta finish. Give me a kiss. All right. Go upstairs with your sister.
- [53:17]
Shannon Sharpe
Go get some snacks. Go get some snacks. French fry.
- [53:20]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
All right. Close. Close the door.
- [53:26]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, but I, I, I gotta try to get something. I gotta try to get.
- [53:31]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
They gonna get it. They, they definitely gonna get it. I'm, I'm hoping I'M hoping, you know, for his sake, I'm hoping he stays healthy and has a good season. Because even if he has a good season, they're not, they're not bringing him back, I don't think. And I think he's auditioning for other teams because they're, they're, they're going through the other teams that might need a starting quarterback or might need a veteran presence to come in.
- [53:50]
Shannon Sharpe
No, not at that price, Ocho. Not at the price. Not this year.
- [53:56]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
No, Not. No. I'm saying. No, not this year. I'm talking about, I'm talking about the following year.
- [53:59]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, next year. Okay. Moving forward. Moving forward. Okay. Okay. I thought you said if he played well.
- [54:04]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Oh, no, no, no.
- [54:04]
Shannon Sharpe
Maybe trade deadline, you know, in the regular trade.
- [54:07]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah. Preseason gonna cut it. They need to see live action in the regular season.
- [54:13]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes. And. He said that Jimmy Haslam is, is he not? No. Dummy.
- [54:26]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
And you know when you, you're like,
- [54:28]
Shannon Sharpe
man, you think I, you think I fit to sit you? Do you think I'm fitting to sit you on the bench and pay you 40?
- [54:32]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Me not you finna be in there. You're gonna be. You gonna be in here earning some of it.
- [54:37]
Shannon Sharpe
You might get benched, but you not finna start on the bench now. I, I mean, look, stranger things have happened. They got a 90, they got a hundred million dollar dead cap here with Tua. They paying them 50 plus million dollars so they'll go play somewhere else. So stranger things happen. No, Joe, I don't, I don't see them. They could, don't start. Look, they could. Cause Aaron Rodgers, they let. Aaron Rodgers had a big dead cap here. They receive other players have huge dead cap hits and it's like, hey, nah, it's just not working. It's not gonna work. Ain't no sense enough beating a dead horse.
- [55:17]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
You know what? That, that's, that's crazy when you think about it. It's no telling what they might do. It's no telling because, hey, we saw it like you just said, we saw it happen to Aaron Rodgers and Tour. I mean, could it happen? I mean, it could happen. It could happen. You know, Deshaun too. But why? Why? I forgot about Kirk cousin. Why wait till now though? Why wait till now? You could, you could have been cut ties and dealt with the dead cap hit.
- [55:41]
Shannon Sharpe
Coulda or moved on. They restructured the contract, so we'll see. Wish him, wish him the best. Meanwhile, Andrew Barrett says he'll spend more time with Ty Simpson and his hold it realistic that the Browns to add a young qb. Eileen, would be. If we do add someone to the quarterback room, it would be someone who's younger. A younger player, most likely anyone that brings in the spot on the roster. Our thought is that they're coming. They're competing, Ocho. They're competing to play. They have something that we like in their skill set and our expectation would be for them to work harder. Ocho, could you see that? What were they picking? I mean, because most drafts have two quarterbacks going to the first round, it seemsly it's him and Mendoza. Obviously. Everybody thinks Mendoza is going to the, the Los Angeles.
- [56:34]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
I would hope so.
- [56:37]
Shannon Sharpe
Wow. Could you see them taking Ty Simpson at six?
- [56:40]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Absolutely not.
- [56:41]
Shannon Sharpe
No.
- [56:43]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
You, you have so much, you have so many other needs that need to be.
- [56:46]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, but they got Jacksonville 24. Remember they traded the DB, right?
- [56:50]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [56:51]
Shannon Sharpe
Remember they traded.
- [56:52]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
I can't remember his name. I forgot. Newsom.
- [56:54]
Shannon Sharpe
Newsom. Yeah, Newsom. Yep, yep.
- [56:58]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah. I, I, I don't see that you have so many other needs that, that, that you need. I mean, hello. We still need a receiver. I'm talking about, I'm talking about. We. Excuse me, I'm sorry. They, they need a receiver. They need someone. Need someone big time. They need someone big time.
- [57:13]
Shannon Sharpe
And you got DeSean on the roster. You got Shador on the roster. You got Dylan Gabriel on the roster and you potentially taking them.
- [57:20]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Absolutely not. That make no sense. That makes no sense.
- [57:24]
Shannon Sharpe
If you do that. You telling me you don't believe in any of the quarterbacks that you have on your roster? We understand that desean is, this is a one year thing. This is basically one year. This is a one year deal. But you're saying you don't. If you, if you take another quarterback and. Excuse me. And you take a quarterback in the first or second round, you saying the other two quarterbacks.
- [57:42]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Hold on. And if you take another quarterback, that's not going to change anything because the quarterback is only as good as the supporting cast. And your supporting cast is not up to par to do any goddamn thing anyway. And Ty Simpson, no disrespect to him, he's not the quarterback gonna come in and save your franchise because he's not the type of quarterback that's a come in and elevate everybody around him. That's not happened. That's not happening.
- [58:03]
Shannon Sharpe
I agree with you.
- [58:04]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
What are we talking about?
- [58:09]
Shannon Sharpe
Look like they don't know what they talking about. Look like we kind of know what we talking about. But look, that's what got him in this situation. I think the biggest thing is. Oo you. They don't. They haven't shown patience. Now. I don't know what it was. Look, I'm not. I'm not there every day for. For whatever reason, for the word was. And. And. And. And listen to the Baker talk. They wanted someone more of an adult to lead their franchise. Oh, Baker is who he is. Y' all got. People got to stop thinking everybody's gonna be like Peyton Manning and Tom Brady. People got different personalities, and it's okay. There's nothing. There's nothing wrong. There's nothing wrong with that. But at the end of the day, I want a guy to be himself, so that way, I'll get the best of himself. You try to make everybody be Tom Brady, everybody be Peyton, everybody. Just that. No, that's. That's not them.
- [59:08]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Not. Not at all. Not at all. And.
- [59:10]
Shannon Sharpe
And you look at the way these guys dress. You look at the way these guys come to the game. You look at the way these guys are do things in game. It's a different time now. Oo. You got to evolve with the times. This antiquated way of thinking. Cookie cutter. And everybody is the same way.
- [59:27]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
It's not. It's not as much as. As much as you want your quarterback, you know, to be a certain way to conduct himself a certain way. There are very few. That total line and being different, you know, and. And just do everything by the book. But, man, Baker's one of those. He. Baker's who he is. And that's why. I think that's why he's having success that he's having now in Tampa.
- [59:51]
Shannon Sharpe
But Baker, he didn't change. He wasn't. He wasn't a certain way in college and didn't get to the NFL and change. He was the exact same way. If you didn't like his brashes in college, why the hell you drafted? He planted the flag. He stood on the sideline to grab his crotch. You know, he threw the ball and hit somebody in the head.
- [60:13]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, that's always been him.
- [60:14]
Shannon Sharpe
You knew everything. It's hard for me to imagine, Ocho. You invest that kind of money in somebody and you don't know everything there is. You know his third grade teacher. You know his seventh grade math teacher. You know who his PE teacher was. You know his Sunday school teacher. You know everything. You know the first car that he had. You know every damn thing. It's hard for me to believe that you spend $30 billion in something and you don't, hey, you spend $30 million in the house, you got inspectors, you're gonna make sure this, this thing ain't about to fall into the ocean. You got to make sure this thing ain't got no leaks, it ain't got no termites, they had no plumbing, they have no sewer problems or anything.
- [60:51]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
But you know what the problem is, right? They drafted him. They understood all those things. They did their homework. But we're not getting the results we want. So we gonna blame you in the way you conduct yourself, the way you carry yourself as a reason why we're not winning. Because we, we bringing you in, okay? You, what you do in college, that's all fine and dandy. We like that part.
- [61:10]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [61:11]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
But is it going to help us and result in wins? And it didn't. So what's the first thing they use? They use that as excuse on why they not winning. Well, it's because you conduct yourself this way. This is the goddamn problem. But situations matter. And you haven't, you had a problem at that same position for a very long time. So I, I, I would, I would think 100 years. How long?
- [61:34]
Shannon Sharpe
Basically, says Otto Graham. Well, you had two. You got a couple of years of great with, with Bernie Kozar. They went to the AFC Championship game. Unfortunately, they lost to Denver in Denver, but they haven't, they haven't had a quarter. I mean, a legit quarterback for an extended period of time since Otto Graham in the 56.
- [61:51]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, I think, I think, I think. Wait, no autogram. Bernie Kozar. And if I'm not mistaken, Derek Anderson had a really, really a year. I think that was what, so that was. What's the receiver?
- [62:05]
Shannon Sharpe
Braylon Edwards.
- [62:05]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Oh, yeah, that Braylen Edwards year. What about the year. But why is it slipping my mind?
- [62:11]
Shannon Sharpe
Are you talking about.
- [62:12]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Oh, my God, I forgot what year that was.
- [62:15]
Shannon Sharpe
I don't think he, I don't, I don't think Derek Anderson played.
- [62:18]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Hey, hey, Chad, who was the quarterback when, when, when Josh Gordon led the league. Led leaking everything, Led yards, led league and touchdowns.
- [62:25]
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, maybe it was Brandon Weed in one year. What? Maybe it was Hoyer. Who's the quarter.
- [62:29]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Well, he went crazy that year.
- [62:36]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, we had the Cardiac, the Cardiac Browns when they had Brian side. Brian Sappho, I think won the MVP in like 79. No, I was on, I was on. I did first take, so I did first take like 16, 15, 16. I had to be like, I think if Brandon Weeden was one year, I
- [63:05]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
don't know who the Quarterback was. But it wouldn't matter, but Josh Gordon was catching everything and taking it to the house.
- [63:14]
Shannon Sharpe
Weeding. And Jason Campbell.
- [63:16]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Okay, okay.
- [63:18]
Shannon Sharpe
Remember Jason Campbell from the old Washington team?
- [63:21]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
- [63:23]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Well, they need to go get a. They know. Need to get another receiver like a Josh. Yeah. Because I don't give a damn who your quarterback are.
- [63:34]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, you. You. You're gonna be right back in the same.
- [63:36]
Shannon Sharpe
Those guys aren't good enough outside until right now.
- [63:39]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
You need.
- [63:40]
Shannon Sharpe
You need it.
- [63:40]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
You need a dog. You need. You need one. Just. Just one good one to go. To go with the rest of the supporting cast.
- [63:46]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. You get one good one, a couple
- [63:48]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
of auxiliaries, you're gonna be all right.
- [63:52]
Shannon Sharpe
The Browns and Miles Garrett agreed to a modified language in his contract this off season that makes it easier for to trade Garrett. So what they did that. He's supposed to get 29 million in roster bonus on March 15. They pushed it to seven days before the regular season start, but Andrew Barry says the team will not trade Miles. Miles is a career Brown. He's one of the faces of our organization. And I think we've been very clear past and present in terms of our feelings. I understand all the questions, but I'll be honest. I don't really want to waste a ton of time. More breath on that topic.
- [64:25]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
- [64:26]
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho, what does the modification to his contract. Were you kicking? I mean, ma's like, hold on, y'.
- [64:33]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
All.
- [64:33]
Shannon Sharpe
Y' all be to tell me y' all kick 29 million, I'll let y' all kick 29 million down the road. I could have got that March 15, but now it's seven days before the regular season, so that's seven. So April, May, June, July, August. So about six months. I'll let y' all kick.
- [64:48]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
One thing they gonna do, but they're gonna lie to. They're gonna lie to you every time when they get in front of that camera. Huh? They're gonna lie to you every time they get in front of that camera. You know exactly why you kicked that money on down the road. To allow yourself room to be able to trade Garrett to. To a team that gives him opportunity and a chance to win for a change. Whether he's the face of your franchise or not, whether you want him to be a 1 jersey team player, which he should be. But also based on what he's done, you should reward him with opportunity to go somewhere where he can have a chance to win for a change. I mean, come on now. And we. We know why you did it. I hate. Listen one thing about them coaches and them owners and them GMs. When they get in front of that camera, they gonna act like a politician. They gonna tell you everything you want to hear knowing that they not gonna deliver. And it's not the truth.
- [65:34]
Shannon Sharpe
They hit that lie.
- [65:35]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
But huh.
- [65:38]
Shannon Sharpe
Everything about their quick all the time. So.
- [65:43]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
So why there's no reason to do it. Just.
- [65:46]
Shannon Sharpe
Just leave it alone. It don't change anything. It doesn't make the 29 million goals away. The only thing is is that that dead cap is not on your space. Because if you paid that money you got to absorb him. Even though he's everywhere else.
- [65:59]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Bingo. I mean here.
- [66:01]
Shannon Sharpe
So now he's somebody. Somebody else will have to pay that. Look, obviously he's the best player. And you know what? Now that I think about it, Miles Garrett might win. He might do something. Only a handful of defensive players. The top 100. He might be number one.
- [66:22]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
He should be. He should be.
- [66:26]
Shannon Sharpe
I think. I think has any defensive player maybe J.J. watt has J.J. watt been number one? Aaron Donald been number one. Because normally it's reserved quarterback. I think. I think Adrian Peterson won it one year. I think the year that he came back, I think Adrian Peterson might have won it. Tyreek hill won it one year. That's.
- [66:45]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
That's 1700 yard season. Yeah.
- [66:48]
Shannon Sharpe
Lamar wanted a couple of times if I'm not mistaken. I think my homeboy Brady's one of the most have the defensive player ever won the award. What did JJ finish? Okay. Yeah. Okay. So they got two JJ in 2015, Aaron Dahl in 2019. So
- [67:14]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
hey, I'm. I'm listen. Miles Garrett either to Philly. Miles Garrett.
- [67:24]
Shannon Sharpe
Maybe that might be why they hold it. That's why Philly's holding on to A.J. brown. They might know something we don't know. Yeah.
- [67:30]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
A.J. brown over to hey. And we. I just said it. You get you one dog. Get you one dog. The Sean Watson.
- [67:36]
Shannon Sharpe
A.J.
- [67:37]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
brown.
- [67:41]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, because I. I for me two for. Because look, as much as I. I would love to see Miles finish his career, I think he. I want to see him on the biggest stages. I want to see him a chance. I want to see those sacks something to someone other than himself. Because when you playing behind and you get 23 sacks and you still win five games, you shouldn't win five games with 23 sacks. Y' all should be in the playoffs. And just imagine what he could potentially do if his team ever had a
- [68:11]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
leaf and the other team has to throw.
- [68:16]
Shannon Sharpe
I mean the man had five sacks against the Patriots and they got beat by 14. That doesn't normally happen, Ocho.
- [68:23]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, you're right.
- [68:25]
Shannon Sharpe
Because before you know it, the game's out of hand. Now you got to throw the ball. I know you got to throw it. You know you got to throw it. But I just don't know him being there if they're ever going to win because there's so many holes they need to plug. Well.
- [68:44]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
And honestly, the holes that need to plug on the offensive side, all the holes that need to plug and listen, you won't be able to place Miles Garrett, but you can get someone that's competent, someone that's not going to get the hell he's not going to get your 23 goddamn sacks. And. But you have so many other pieces around you defensively that are just that good. We're missing Miles Garrett. It'll be somewhat of a step back, but you still will be good. You won't be great.
- [69:09]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
- [69:10]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
You'll still be good, but you need so much offensively, it. I think letting him go and being able to. To build that offense and help your quarterback situation out is much more important than keeping Myles Garrett and winning another four or five games.
- [69:25]
Shannon Sharpe
It's a situation, Ocho. The roof is leaking, the sink is clogged, the toilet's overflowing, and the shower doesn't work. I gotta fix the problem. The problem I'm gonna fix first the toilet overflowing. I gotta get that out there. I gotta get that fixed. And then I work a. I don't want to get rained on shower. Hey, I go take a shower in the rain, so. But they got so many things going on, Ocho, that Miles can't solve it. But they've done a great. They've done a horrible job of putting
- [70:03]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
people on the ball.
- [70:06]
Shannon Sharpe
You get. You got Denzel, you got Grant Delpit, you got Miles. You done a great job on the defensive side. To hell. The linebacker was working. Of the year. Defensive rookie of the year. So you've done a great job with that. How the hell have you missed so bad? Now I like her.
- [70:24]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Hey, be nice.
- [70:26]
Shannon Sharpe
You got something. I like the running back.
- [70:31]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
- [70:33]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, bro. You got to get some wide outs.
- [70:37]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, one, one, one. You need one. And if. When it happens, I said it first. So when Miles Garrett end up over there in. In Philly, huh? Make sure y' all come back and just replay this. He might end up in Dallas.
- [71:03]
Shannon Sharpe
You know they gonna want picking.
- [71:04]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
You got to tell me twice. I just said they need a receiver. I just didn't want to say no name because everybody get mad at me.
- [71:11]
Shannon Sharpe
They can get mad all they want to. I don't see them trading them to Dallas without pickings coming. You see that?
- [71:17]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
It's a possibility.
- [71:20]
Shannon Sharpe
No, I'm saying, do you see Dallas getting Miles Garrett without giving up picking?
- [71:24]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
That's not gonna happen. Even swap. Even swap, baby.
- [71:29]
Shannon Sharpe
Do.
- [71:29]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Do me right.
- [71:30]
Shannon Sharpe
Even swap. Ain't no swindle.
- [71:31]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Who you,
- [71:40]
Shannon Sharpe
Man? I just want Miles the one time to play me, to play meaningful.
- [71:46]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah. Meaningful football. Yeah.
- [71:49]
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, all. I mean, for the most part, most greats, you know, whether they won or not, they played in them. Bruce and Reggie Time, LT Ray Keakley, Patrick Willis, Aaron Donald, jj. Unfortunately, he did not get an opportunity to play in the Super Bowl. But a lot of the great. And that's what you want to see now, it doesn't guarantee. It doesn't guarantee you're going to win. But, but, but play on that big stage, play in a championship game where rushes matter. Get three sacks in the afc, in the NFC or NFC Championship game, be the difference in that game. Aaron Donald, those defensive player of the year. But go back and cut the tape on in that super bowl against Cincinnati and watch how he got down and watch how he took the game over.
- [72:44]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Especially that goddamn. Especially that goddamn fourth down. All we had to do is just block him on that fourth down. He messed up the goddamn throw.
- [72:52]
Shannon Sharpe
But Ocho, you got to remember, on that third downing one, he the guy blocking him, and he grabbed the guy with one hand and stopped him from getting the first down.
- [73:02]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Damn, man.
- [73:05]
Shannon Sharpe
And right before the half, remember, they got. They got that turtle right before the half, and he got that sack.
- [73:10]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
I think he might come back this year. What you think?
- [73:13]
Shannon Sharpe
Hell, no, he ain't.
- [73:14]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
But you see the clips of him working out?
- [73:18]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I hit him one piece.
- [73:19]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
He's working out like he might. Might just come back.
- [73:23]
Shannon Sharpe
Nah, he don't. He don't got the passion. He said it. He's like, I don't have a passion. He exhausted everything that he had. I mean, you. You know, you. You watch him. He say, hey, my dad had me getting up early, early in the morning. He said, man, I did. I've seen y' all saw Pitt and y' all saw the Rams, but y' all don't realize I was doing this high school.
- [73:45]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
I don't blame you.
- [73:46]
Shannon Sharpe
At some point in time of me, he still love the game, but the passion to train at the level that he need to, to still be Aaron Donald, he Can't go out there and be anything else other than 99. Anything else will be uncivilized. So that's the thing. I think the thing is, Ojo, that's the biggest thing from the greats is that they. It's not like they don't love the game, but I can't give that same level of intensity and consistency, see to the game.
- [74:17]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
I could imagine. I could imagine.
- [74:19]
Shannon Sharpe
All I know is 99 with them, with them, with them horns on his helmet, whipping ass, going up and down the line, turning. Damn, that's locked. They got. Hey, they got this, the dead boat on there and everything.
- [74:34]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Hey, I. I couldn't imagine playing D tackle too unc. You know, always having to deal with that goddamn. That double team, that double team. Oh, my God.
- [74:42]
Shannon Sharpe
Goodness, especially him. Hey, you already know. You go into the game and we played guys like that. Hell, I played against Reggie, played against Bruce, played against dt. He not. You better find out where he is.
- [74:56]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
And wherever he. Wherever he's at, that's where the double go. And the funny thing about it is Aaron Donald was able to dominate for such a long time, and he had the highest percentage when it came to being double team.
- [75:09]
Shannon Sharpe
That joke was so quick out the ball, man. I told yo the first time I saw him, I said, man, that's Aaron Donald. I said, from pet. I mean, he was. He was stocky Ocho, but I'm talking about, you know, I thought he go see. I thought I go see.
- [75:22]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Oh, no.
- [75:23]
Shannon Sharpe
He showed 275, looking like Miles. Looking like Miles. Now he. He put solid now, but I'm like, well, damn.
- [75:31]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
When you see him, he doesn't look.
- [75:32]
Shannon Sharpe
You watch him get up the ball.
- [75:34]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
He quick, quick, you know, and you think about. You think about all the. All the things that make a defensive tackle good. You know, all the different attributes. He was great at every last one of them. Every last. Every last box. He checked whether it was stopping the run, taking on the double team, being able to swim, pushing the pull up. I mean, whatever the. The verbiage is that you use that. You know, the. Oh, man, yeah. He was good at all of it.
- [76:02]
Shannon Sharpe
He rip. He could rip. He could bull you. He could wax on, wax off.
- [76:07]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, man. And his footwork. You ever seen his footwork drills? His footwork looks like a goddamn receiver running back.
- [76:15]
Shannon Sharpe
But as I told you, listen to him talk. When he was talking to defensive lineman, he said, you play on edges. He said, don't let that man square you up. You get on an edge.
- [76:26]
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Half a Man, that's it.
- [76:29]
Shannon Sharpe
That's what we talk about on show. I. I'm never. You never gonna put both of your hands in my damn chest. I'm going. I'm going. I'm going. Inside or outside, I'm getting on it.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
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Shannon Sharpe
I promise you that. I'm gonna get on an edge. But he was. He was. He was special. And I don't, you know, obviously just watching it from a distance, but, you know, he kind of reminds you of a. A Johnny Randall.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
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Shannon Sharpe
Johnny was undersized. You know, Johnny came in as 235 pounds, defensive tackle.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
That's lit. You know how. You know how small. You know how small that is? Especially back then when all these tackles, all these tackles were big. Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
I mean, to play that under tackle he got. I mean, he caught. His hands are kind of like SAP. Because if you look at SAP, SAP didn't play with gloves.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
SAP just tape his fingers.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Tape off. Yeah. And so he did a great job of grabbing SAP. Like to feel thread. He liked to feel cloth. So he liked to pull what you call was great at pulling ad. But it was. It was definitely a pleasure to watch him play.
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