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Shannon Sharpe
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Chad Johnson
That length of time you can fly from Miami to Los Angeles and back from Los angeles to Miami. 12 long hours.
Shannon Sharpe
That's about how long it takes Oscar Mayer to smoke their bacon. There's no wrong way to enjoy it. So buy some Oscar Meyer thick cut bacon right now.
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Shannon Sharpe
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Chad Johnson
Back it up a little bit. Let it focus. Right. There it is. In case you guys can't read that chicken scratch. He write like he's in third grade. It's N S F W. N S F W. So. All right, Ocho, let's get right into the game. As I mentioned earlier, the Detroit lions move to 12 and 1:34. Green Bay packers fall to 9 and 4:31. So the Lions win 34:31 over division rival the Green Bay packers, the 11th straight win. Jared Goff had another efficient game. He was 32 of 41, 283, three touchdowns, one interception. He was sacked once. Hey, he threw the ball to seven different receivers. Six different receivers caught a pass. He was 32 completions, 283 yards, three touchdowns. Played very, very well. They didn't run the ball great tonight, but they ran the ball well enough because now play action is set up off the running game. And you saw a lot of those crossing routes. A lot of the shake out route throws because of play action is so good because they can run it. And Green Bay had to honor that. Ocho guys were wide open. But I was very impressed with Green Bay because they could have easily run ahead. But give them credit. They came out forced to turn over right away and even took the lead. And they went back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. But the play of the game was when Detroit stopped them from getting into the end zone and they only could tie. It had been very interesting to see. I still believe that Detroit was going to go down and get a touchdown, even if they needed it, because they matched the intensity once Green Bay took the lead. Now they went down and got touchdown, touchdown, touchdown. And they're going for it on fourth down and pick it up every time. But I like what I saw from the Detroit Lions. They've been very, very impressive. I think they're the best team in football right now. Followed closely by the Philadelphia Eagles. Ocho, what did you like about what you saw from this ball game?
Shannon Sharpe
Listen, forget the ballgame in general. I like what. I like what I saw from Dan Campbell. I like what I saw from Dan Campbell. When you talk about having cojones, when you talk about having testicles the size of a goddamn Tyrannosaurus rex, that's Dan Campbell. The fact that he changed the entire culture over there to a winning culture. And he believed when you have a coach like that, unknown, that's willing to go for it on fourth down. You know what that's telling your players? I believe in y'all.
Chad Johnson
I believe in you.
Shannon Sharpe
I believe in you. So that energy, I mean, to play for somebody like Dan Campbell, who's also. Who's a player's coach who also played in the NFL has to be one of the greatest feelings for that organization and those players in general. Because stuff like that, it makes you want to run through all for a person, it makes you want to run through a wall. For a coach like that who only. Who coaches like that. Not only that. He doesn't play conservative. He's playing ball. He's playing balls to the wall, regardless of scenario, regardless of circumstance, and it's dope. And I think that's one of the reasons why they are 12 and 1.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, he's all. He's constantly pedal to the metal. He's constantly putting pressure. Not only does he put pressure on his offense, I mean, on the opposing defense, he's putting pressure on his defense also. Because sometimes situation, you probably could give those guys, the opposing team to football at midfield or maybe even in your territory, but he just has that much confidence in his team. He said, offense, I have the utmost confidence in you that you're going to get this, and if you don't, defense, I have the utmost confidence that you're not going to give up a touchdown and you're going to hold it. You're going to hold him. At worst case scenario, you're going to give them three points or we're going to get the football back with no damage done. And so that. That sends a message. You're absolutely right, Ocho. That resonates with his ball club. And you hear the guys, the way they talk about Dan campbell, they absolutely 1000% believe in him. He's the de facto leader. And I love the fact don't one voice, one sound. Hey, hey, Cowboy fans. Y'all would love to have that, wouldn't you? One voice, one sound. Mike Tomlin, one voice, one sound. Kansas City. One voice, one sound. That's what you do. That's the heartbeat.
Shannon Sharpe
And you notice. You notice the difference of all the teams that you just named.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, they win it.
Shannon Sharpe
You notice what they're able to do consistently, year in and year out, win. All right. It ain't rocket science.
Chad Johnson
And the coach and the coach and the coach voice. The coach is the end all, be all. But when you got people, you know, you got people that want to be all in your video, all the, you know, dancing and shine is trying to shine and trying to steal everybody else thunder. This is what you get. This is exactly what you get. Hey, even. Yeah, Philly. Here's Theriana. You might not like some of the things he say and, you know, he might be getting into it with the fans, but you don't get high, Roseman. You don't hear Jeffrey Lurie. You, you. You go to Buffalo. You don't. You don't hear the PS talking.
Shannon Sharpe
No, you hit McDermott. That's it.
Chad Johnson
That's it. And that's how it should be.
Shannon Sharpe
One band, one sound.
Chad Johnson
That's the way it should be. Jordan Love finished 12 of 20, only got 20 passes, 206 yards, a touchdown to Tucker Craft. Josh Jacobs had a monster game. He didn't rush for a ton of yards, Ocho, but he got the ball into the end zone three times. That's the one thing that he can do that he has a sense for getting the ball into the end zone. He's going to find a way to slither his way. He'll power his way because he can run with power. He can run with finesse. He has great hands. Yes, he's really good. But I was really impressed with the Packers. That was a short week and you have to travel and both teams, you're not doing. Basically, it's a whole lot of walkthroughs and a whole lot of film study. Your body's not really fully recovered yet. And I'm surprised more people don't get injured, Ocho, because you have such a short week. You play on Sunday and then guess what? Monday, Tuesday, you got to travel Wednesday and then you play. And normally, hell, I didn't start to feel good once I got it. Like year seven, year eight, hell, I ain't start feeling good till Friday.
Shannon Sharpe
You know, the funny thing I think about it too, and the fact that even on these short weeks, you know, from a 30 to a, to a Sunday or a Sunday to a Thursday, I think about the fact that we in week 13, when we 12, so the body should be adjusted and enough, enough wear and tear has been built up to this point to where you should be able to adjust to it. Even though it's a short week, you.
Chad Johnson
Ain'T just to them licks bad I'll be woke. I bet I be wanting massages, a cold tub. But like. But then the thing is, Ocho, is that like you said, you're not out there running. Basically, it's a lot of walkthroughs. It's a lot of film study. You're running plays that you're very, very comfortable with. You know what you know. Look, we're in the same division and these coaches have been in play for an extended period of time. We know what you do. You know what we do. Okay, let's see who can out execute the other. The other team by doing what we do. We believe we can do what we do better than what you can do.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Chad Johnson
That's what it comes down to. They make. They got a turnover. One turnover. Well, two turnovers. Detroit got one and Green Bay got one because Christian Watson fumbled a football and Detroit went ahead and took that in and then golfed through an interception. And then the packers go right down the field and score. But this was a very good game. Detroit's. Detroit's really good, man. Yeah, it's really good. But I'm still as good as they are. Ocho, after watching the Eagles. Yeah, Eagles right there. There ain't much separation between them and the Eagles.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, and that's on both sides of the ball, too. That's on both sides of the ball. Listen, the Lions got Gibbs and Montgomery, but Saquon is able to do the exact same thing and gain well.
Chad Johnson
I like gain.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, gain well is nice too.
Chad Johnson
And plus, Ocho don't let me cut. Let me say this right here. And you got Jalen. Hurts. Yeah. Golf doesn't add anything to the running game like hurts add to the Eagles running game. You have give. You have Knuckles and Sonics or whatever they call themselves, but that's where it stops. Because you get nothing out of the quarterback.
Shannon Sharpe
Right. I think, I think. You know what, for what they lack in quarterback play from a dual quarterback standpoint, with golf being a strictly a drop back passer, they make up for it. The wide receiver position, though. Yes, they make up for it. And that's not taking anything away from Devonte Smith and goddamn AJ Brown. Yeah, but then, and then both defenses are really good. Now the second level for the Lions is a little off. It's a little off the second.
Chad Johnson
Too many passing. Too many holding, though, Joe.
Shannon Sharpe
Too many who?
Chad Johnson
Too many passing affairs. Too many holdings. Oh, they leave the league in.
Shannon Sharpe
Carry on, carry on.
Chad Johnson
Carry on. Joseph, you know, Come on, bro.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, they got, they got, they got. They got to work on that.
Chad Johnson
They.
Shannon Sharpe
They have to learn to be patient. They got to learn to be patient and use their eyes a little bit more. Keep yourself in position. You keep yourself in position to make a play. Trying to keep the receiver always either in front of you or stand on top of him right? Then you'll always be in a safe spot and be able to get your eyes around without panicking. Anytime you panic, first thing you do is you pull. You pull your tug.
Chad Johnson
And I'm afraid what's going to happen, Ocho, I can see this happening. They got to have to be careful because you're going to get in a situation where it's late in the ball game and you're going to do what you've always done, which is tug. And everybody go, say, you wait now to throw it. When it's an obvious PI. I don't know. I don't know what Arnold is doing. I mean, he gets at least one again, and sometimes they decline them for the simple fact the guy didn't make the catch. But he's going to have to be better. He's going to have to be better in that area. But Detroit's really, really good. Zadaria Smith had another sack. He's playing extremely well. But I like what I see from Detroit. I like what I saw from Detroit. Now you get 10 days. You get some time off, Ocho, you got Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Coach Campbell probably not going to want to see the guys until at least noon on Monday. You come in, get your run, get your lift in, you know, try to get some of that soreness out. I mean, hey, some people might go out of town, but I was gonna go in and get me a run in. I'm not. I'm not going nowhere. I'm gonna go get my run in.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, matter of fact. Matter of fact, knowing. Knowing Dan, being that he's a players coach and they're playing so well, being 12 and 1, he probably gonna let them boys go, man, y'all get away from here, get off your feet, get away from football. Get away from football for a few days, and when you come back, be ready to go.
Chad Johnson
Well, damn, if they give. If they get Friday, Saturday, Sunday, they ain't enough time.
Shannon Sharpe
I mean. I mean, three days after 13 weeks, I mean, you know, you know, they.
Chad Johnson
Just had a buy.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, but listen, Thanksgiving, listen, the real football doesn't start until after Thanksgiving. So right now to beat, they want to know.
Chad Johnson
Hold on, Ocho. They got a full week because they played on Thanksgiving. So they got a normal. It's a normal week for them.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right, you're right.
Chad Johnson
So they. So guess what they got. So they got an opportunity, Ocho, to have Friday, Saturday, Sunday off, Sunday off last week. Then they come Monday, Tuesday, travel, Wednesday, Boom.
Shannon Sharpe
Right, Right.
Chad Johnson
They should be good. Now, they, they probably was hurting. You play Sunday and then you got Thanksgiving Day. Now you got a whole week in between. But I'm sure Coach Campbell, I don't, I don't know where the strategy is. He might help. He might say, hey, I'll see y'all Wednesday. Yeah, I'm probably, hey, come in tomorrow, get you a run, get you a lift, get some soreness out and I'll see you guys on Wednesday. See you guys Wednesday morning. Brightner. Yeah, that could be, that could be the approach that he takes. But this was a very good game, very interesting game. Two good. Two teams, both teams in the same conference, 12 and 1, Minnesota 10 and 2, Green Bay 9 and 4. But Green Bay sneaky good. Well, they're not sneaky. They're just really good. Okay, bacon lovers, let me tell you something amazing about Oscar Meyer's big cut bacon. Now, I don't know if you've used a smoker before, but it's a real labor of love. You've got to put time in to get that rich, smoky flavor. Now think about this. Oscar Meyer smoked their bacon for 12 hours. That's half a day. Twice as long as most bacon is smoked. So for that savory, smoky thick cut bacon. Keep it, Oscar.
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Chad Johnson
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Chad Johnson
Dak defendant Mike McCarthy said, I wholeheartedly believe in him. Dak things McCarthy deserves another contract. He also said he would help McCarthy McCarthy if it if he had more influence on the team's development. But McCarthy said he's confused by that. Comments According to Clarence Hill, the Cowboys Cowboys coach, McCartney said he had the most input he's ever had as head coach. Oh Lord have mercy. Coach Compared to Green Bay, he is not sure what Dak meant by needing him influence on his terms. We know Mike McCarthy does not have. Thank you. He's a head coach in title only.
Shannon Sharpe
Listen you. You're just you, you and that and I Disrespect, a disrespectful way for those that understand the game of football, for those who know about when it comes to being the coach of the Dallas Cowboys organization, but they're still on the helmet. There's one person that runs the show, and it's not the head coach. And it's always, always been that way. You have no pool. You know exactly what Dak meant by the words that he said.
Chad Johnson
Yes. And I'm not. I'm taking Dak. What he said with a grain of salt. Because guess what? He said he wanted Scott Linehan. He said he wanted Kelly Moore. He said he wanted Jason Garrett. He said he wanted this one and he wanted that one. So what's he supposed to say? Nah, I want Mike McCall, I want another head coach. I want another play caller? Of course he's going to say all the right things. Because if you go back and check his track record, Ocho, he said the exact same thing about every offensive coordinator, about every head coach that he's had.
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, you have to. You have to. He has to be PC. He's a quarterback. He's the face of the franchise no matter what. So he has to say all the right things. It's not like he won't come out and go against, you know, his head coach. I mean, come on, Mike, you.
Chad Johnson
No, no, no, no. Should it. But I'm saying for him to say, Mike, let me ask you a question. Do you have any say on the final 53?
Shannon Sharpe
Nope.
Chad Johnson
Do you have any say in free agency? Do you have any say in the draft?
Shannon Sharpe
No.
Chad Johnson
So if that. If that's the case. So I'm just trying to figure out, what do you mean you have some say?
Shannon Sharpe
Wait, didn't he say he had more say, more control and more say than we. Than he had in Green Bay?
Chad Johnson
Yeah, I disagree. Maybe. Maybe Ojo. Maybe at the end. Maybe at the end he didn't have the same amount of say. But it's hard for me to believe throughout his entire tenure that he had more say in Dallas that he had in Green Bay.
Shannon Sharpe
You know what they get, right? That's what they get. You know damn well.
Chad Johnson
Stop playing. Well, see, now by saying that, you know, you take some of the onus off Jerry. So we can't blame Jerry fully. So Jerry can say, oh, see, he went out there and said that he has some say. Let's get his ass up out of here because we lose it.
Shannon Sharpe
You know what's funny now, don't Pieces Jerry come back and Fire back in his own way, his own meticulous way, because you know, he can't. He can't stay from that goddamn camera.
Chad Johnson
Mike Florio believes the Bears should discuss a trade for Shanahan with the 49ers. The Bears are also expected to interview Pete Carroll. I don't believe they need a defensive coordinator as a head coach. I believe. Now, if Pete Carroll's going to go get him a Cliff Kingsbury or get someone that. That's good with this type of quarterback. This type of quarterback, I mean, a Caleb Williams, okay, fine. But you better have someone that has offensive ingenuity. That's forward thinking, creativity.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes, yes, I love Pete Carroll. I love Pete Carroll, but the idea of Shannon Hand and his offensive prowess and his creativity and what he can do when it comes to quarterbacks and the creativity and taking some of the pressure off of Caleb Williams, where he. Where he doesn't have to do so much because the offense does everything for you. Putting people, putting pieces in the right places and allowing that team to function and flow offensively. And he got the pieces to do it.
Chad Johnson
They do.
Shannon Sharpe
Keenan Allen, DJ Moore, you know, yeah, you got Swift. You know, I'm not saying the 49ers, but I'm just saying you do. And obviously the offensive line has some work that needs to be done there as well, but he has a great arsenal of weapons to work with. I'm just saying if the switch was to happen, I think it would improve that off that. That Chicago Bears offense tremendously.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, I see you on Spirit WI Fi tonight.
Shannon Sharpe
Me?
Chad Johnson
Yeah, I'm talking to you on your. Damn. Who you think I'm talking to?
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, okay, listen, stay with me real quick. Stay with me. Now, listen, the people from a WI Fi and my Internet service, they won't be here tomorrow. So what I'm doing right now is. Chad, y'all bear with me today. Just this, just one time. Just. Just tonight. I'm. I'm using my hotspot from my phone to my laptop to do the show tonight. So just bear with me for any. Any. Any lags or lagging. I apologize. I'll be back. I'll be back on business Saturday.
Chad Johnson
Okay?
Shannon Sharpe
I hope so. My bad, my bad.
Chad Johnson
You know, Coach Belichick interviewed for unc, the University of North Carolina head coach in Vacancy. He reportedly blew them away in the interview. I mean, I don't know why y'all surprised by that? Coach Belichick seemed genuinely interested. Interested in the job. Excuse me. At the age of 72, Coach Belichick has no prior pre college experience. Ocho, do you like Coach Belichick going back?
Shannon Sharpe
Absolutely not. Absolutely not. I want, at some point, I would love for Coach Belichick to get the most wins as a head coach in NFL in the past, Shooter, and I can't get that done going to North Carolina. I think going to college, it's not a bad thing. But there's a disadvantage due to the competition level being, the playing field being even because of Nil. I don't think Bill needs to get into that realm in that area where you're not really getting the players. You need to have a winning season or actually to be able to compete at a high level. I would prefer Bill to stay with us at inside the NFL until the right job comes to his. How do I say it? Until the right. To the right NFL job comes, you know, the right one where he can continue to win and strive to get into reaching that goal of being the most winning NFL head coach ever.
Chad Johnson
I think Ocho, Coach Belichick, it had to be a huge crush to his ego. You talking about a guy that's won six Super Bowls and he ain't getting none of the jobs. There was six or seven jobs that were available and he got none of them. Yeah, but he got none of them.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, can I ask you a question, though?
Chad Johnson
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
Think about this. Of those six or seven jobs that are available, which one would have been the best fit that can. Where he can continue his reign of dominance? No.
Chad Johnson
Ain't got no quarterback. I mean, you got a quarterback, but you ain't got Tom Brady. But at this point, Ojo, let me ask you a question. You're the. You're the best receiver in football.
Shannon Sharpe
That's me. That's me. You.
Chad Johnson
You. You got. You got all the records. You done had six straight 100 catch seasons. You had six straight seasons, at least 1300 yards. Six straight seasons of 10 touchdowns.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, well, that.
Chad Johnson
Okay. They move on and you can't find one job.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Hey, can I tell you something?
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
It's become a young man's game. Not only has this become a young man's game, it's become a young coach's game as well. But Bill doesn't speak for itself. It speaks volumes. It's all about Bill being able to adapt today, today's players to today's era. Can he change some of the things that he did during the old days, some of the old ways, and try to try to revamp? Like, you know, when I tell you got these, sometimes you Got devolved. You. You can't. You can't. You can't do the things you did back in the day and think it's going to work in today's era. You know, the players that. I don't. I don't think your kids don't give.
Chad Johnson
A damn about no resume, Ocho. These kids don't care about no resume.
Shannon Sharpe
No, I know the kids don't. I'm just saying the organizations might. Might. If he goes in and let in and shows that he can adapt to the kids in today's era. That's all I'm saying.
Chad Johnson
I could be wrong. Yeah, yeah, he can. He adapt. It's hard, Ocho, when you've been in your. It's hard when you've done something one way and had ultimate success doing it that way. Now all of a sudden I. You mean to tell me to do a 180? Yeah, Ocho, that's hard. And the kids today, Ocho, there's not the same level of respect for coaching and authority that it once was. What you and I grew up with. And the way we see it, gradually, gradually dissipating where the coach's authority and the coach's voice is not as powerful as it once was. Now it is in some locker rooms. But I remember five years ago, 10. Five years ago. Yeah. Coach Belichick walk into a locker room with that resume.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
Now everybody, the first day, they're gonna call in the question, he wanna know what I could. He wanna know without Tom Brady.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah.
Chad Johnson
I just. I just be wealth out with you.
Shannon Sharpe
Right. But you know what I. I see especially with the young players that. That looked up to. Looked up to him as a coach and respect what he's done. I think he can walk into a locker room and it'd be instant respect, even from the young. Even from the young guns. Even from the young.
Chad Johnson
You see, now the young guys are disrespectful to the veteran players. So you think they go, yeah, the respect that we used to have for authority, not forget. Forget the resume, just for authority. Even if it was somebody that wasn't related to us, but they were older than us or they were in an authoritative position, Ocho, we held them in respect.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah.
Chad Johnson
I need the same now, Ocho.
Shannon Sharpe
I know what you mean, but listen, Bill. Bill is a different figure. He's a legend at this. You know, I think the players would respect.
Chad Johnson
That's.
Shannon Sharpe
That's a legend. This ain't just no. Any coach. Oh, shit. I'm playing for goddamn Bill Belichick, the one who's won six Super Bowls, who knows how to win. You know, I'm. That's. That's just how I see it.
Chad Johnson
You talking. How you talk. That's how you thinking, right? But you wasn't on your phone. You wasn't on your phone soon as the game was over to see what somebody said negative about Ocho so you could confront a receiver. I mean, a reporter. That ain't what you did. You wasn't on your thing trying to find out, well, who said something negative about me because I had an off game. That ain't what you. Did coach tell you one thing, you go do something else? Because, hey, I know better than coach. It's going to be very, very interesting. Very interesting to see, because you and I both know the longer you away from something, the harder it is to get back into it.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
We just talked about the separation in a relationship. Okay. We start out at a week, then two weeks to the month. Two months, a year.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. You know, once you get to a month, you know. Do you know what that mean?
Chad Johnson
Huh? It don't mean nothing, Ocho. Okay. I'm just saying. Month, six months. Now you're getting six months. Now you not. Oh, joke. Now you. Hey, it's an old saying. Now you're crossing the Rubicon. That means you're reaching the point of no return.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've been there before. I've been.
Chad Johnson
I've been.
Shannon Sharpe
I've been to the Rubicon back in 87. I tell you. I tell you, no lie. I never forget her, you know, That's a story I could say for another day. But her name was. They call her. They call her Ruby. They call it Ruby Red. Her name a Ruby Red, you know? Yeah, she had red hair, too. That's why we called it Ruby Red.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, man.
Chad Johnson
And so it's gonna be. I hope Coach Belichick. I mean, I. Look, I. There are some things. The way he did things, wouldn't handle the media, but I think now I don't. You know, his. His. His coaching otman is not to be questioned. Yeah. He knows the game forward and backwards. Now. For me, it probably would had I got drafted to Coach Belichick. See, it's easy to get drafted somewhere Ocho and go there because that's all you know.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
Had I gone somewhere else and then had to play for Coach Reeves, it probably would have been a little different. Different. But he was hell from day, so that's all I knew. See, if you raised in hell and all you've ever dealt with with the devil. So you go to another devil, you cool. Hell, I've been with the devil my whole life.
Shannon Sharpe
Right, right, right.
Chad Johnson
But to go somewhere where you don't have to deal with the devil and now you got to deal with it. Now you got hell on your hand, figuratively and literally. Yeah. But I hope Coach Belichick gets a chance. I think he deserves the opportunity. Well, I think with his resume and what he's done and how he's been, he's had some. Some slip ups, but I think he's earned the right to at least get a. One more chance to try to break that record.
Shannon Sharpe
Absolutely. Absolutely.
Chad Johnson
And if he, if he, if, if he gets it. Hey.
Shannon Sharpe
I know. I know one thing. I already already put my. Put my word in. I put my word in. If. If at any point you do get a job, you know he's gonna bring you on as assistant.
Chad Johnson
A lot of former players have chimed in on the Al Shear az. Al Shear hit on Trevor Lawrence. Bill Romanowski, my former teammate, says the hit was dirty, but I loved it. Sounds like Romo. Joe Thomas says the NFL needs to ban weaponized quarterback slides. Tom Brady suggested NFL needs to change the rules to penalize late slide. Tom Brady said something very interesting. He said they're putting the owners on the defense. Tom Brady is the wrong messenger because they had a rule change. Does he not know the Brady rule was instituted to protect him? He's. I get it. I get what he's saying, Ocho, but he's the wrong message because a lot of these rules that they was put in place to protect the quarterback he benefited from. It's kind of like what we see with a lot of Hispanics when they talk about, yeah, deport, deport, deport. When they got over here, we see it. We know how they got over here. See, it's easy to say that. Expose facto. Well, I'm here now. I don't give it. Close it. Don't let nobody else over. Tom Brady said, well, hell, I ain't got to take no more hits. Punish the quarterbacks, right? Really, bro? Really?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
I mean, and I get everything that they said, Ocho, delay, slide. Patrick Mahomes is notorious for that. Seeming like he's going to slide and then he wiggle and finagle. No, that's wrong. Punish it. Because listen to all my Ross A. Brown. He said that Caleb Williams had a habit of pretending like he's gonna go out of bounds and. And they showed the Clip Dan Campbell. Say if he do. If he does this, y'all punish his ass.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
And that's exactly what happened. That's why they didn't throw a flag, because he warned the official. He said he had a habit of doing this. We gonna put helmets on his ass.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
See, I might not can stop him from doing it, but I break his ass to the habit. My grandma say, I might not stop you, but I break you to have it.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
That's all I'm saying. Tom is the wrong messenger. When he benefited one of. He was one of the most beneficiaries of the rule change to protect the quarterback, Ocho. So how is he going to say this now?
Shannon Sharpe
I think he's saying it because of. Of the way the quarterbacks are taking advantage of the rule.
Chad Johnson
He took advantage of it.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. I mean, you know, he can't. He can't scramble. He can't run. He couldn't run. Now they think they took. He took advantage of it in the pocket.
Chad Johnson
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
So the owners. At that point, it's on the defensive player.
Chad Johnson
Why you put on. He said the owner shouldn't be on the defensive player to protect the offensive player. That's what he's saying. So why is it on the owners when his ass is in the pocket?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, that's a good one, but I'm okay.
Chad Johnson
Well, I want you to give me a good answer.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm trying to give you better context for those that are running, quarterbacks that are doable threats that choose to take advantage of the situation that they know. Well, you know what? I could fake it. I could act like I'm gonna go out of bounds and I'm gonna take it up the field. I'm gonna take it up the sideline. So. Shazir. I understand. I understand. That was a late slide. That was a late slide by the. I'm getting ready to say Jared Golf. That was a late slide by Trevor. No, you.
Chad Johnson
You got.
Shannon Sharpe
You got to protect yourself.
Chad Johnson
That wasn't a slide, Ocho. You do realize how tall Trevor Lawrence is. That was. No, that was late, Ocho. Ocho. It wasn't a late slide, but when you 6 foot 5, you make it seem like he. Kyle Murray. Damn, that's a lot of bad to get down into a sliding position. How many. How many times you see. How many times you see Aaron Judge steal a base? Do you know how hard it is for him to get his ass down and slide? Unless they ain't got nobody in that position that they got a shift on or Something. Yeah, that's what. But here's the thing. It's just like a quarterback when they fake spike it and then throw the ball. What about that, Ocho? Should you be allowed to do that?
Shannon Sharpe
I ain't really seen that since Marino against the Jazz.
Chad Johnson
They'll do it.
Shannon Sharpe
They still do it.
Chad Johnson
I think the quarterbacks are afraid now. I think only a handful of quarterbacks have done. Have done that since Danny, but. And they put in the Jags to finish up Ocho. The Jags placed Trevor Lawrence on injury reserve yesterday, likely ending his season. I think he was going to have surgery when he was dealing with something before. Before this. Okay. A.C. he's had. He had shoulder issues before that, Ocho. But all I'm saying is this. I understand what Tom is saying, but as a quarterback that's benefited from it, you can't say, Ocho, you can't say change the tax code when you benefited from the old tax code and you've made millions and billions now. Hey, close it. Close that loophole, man. Don't let nobody else do that. It's like a portal. We see these sci fi movies where they jump through the portal and then they try to close it. So can't nobody else. No, bro, what's up?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, you're right. I understand what you mean, but that's that.
Chad Johnson
Listen, and I get it, they're gonna have to do something about this. Like, you can't fake like you on slack because they changed the rules in college because Kenny Pickett and Pitt, he pretended like he's gonna slide and he kept running and they ended up winning the game. So you can't do that now. And they're gonna, hey, if you wanna change the rules. But once that guy go into a slide, because once he goes into that motion, Ocho, like I said, he's a big ass, man. That's a lot to go from a fully upright position into a sliding position.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, you right, you're right. I mean, but listen, you with understanding of that, being that you're a bigger man, I mean, you gotta start that slide a little earlier.
Chad Johnson
Guys, I'm not saying Tom Brady, Tom. I'm saying Tom Brady benefited from rules that protected the quarterback. So imagine if you couldn't hit the quarterbacks with Elway and Marino, because I give you a prime example. Trent Green lost his starting job in St. Louis. That's how we came to see Kurt Warner. Rodney Harrison did the exact same thing to Trent Green that Benny Pollard did to Tom Brady. Did they change the rules? Absolutely not. The moment they did it to Tom Brady, what did they do? They called it the Brady rule. A quarterback, now a defender, he can't tackle the quarterback below the knee.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
He can't hit, he can only hit the quarterback here. You can't drive your weight onto the quarterback. You got to baby him down. You got, if I got him, I got to do like this. And you see a lot of guys sack the corner or hit the quarterback. They got their arm spread and tried to dissipate the amount of weight that's going on the quarterback. So all I'm saying, I didn't say Tom was a scrambler, but you can benefit from rules. Even though said that situation maybe wasn't applicable for him. But he did benefit from rules that were implemented to protect the quarterback.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Chad Johnson
So you want to see them change the rules. So what would you have them do? Do away with the slide. So now a quarterback can't give himself up.
Shannon Sharpe
You can't. Because that's part of the game. That's part of the game. You definitely can't take that out. But I don't, I don't know. I think you would have to put the onus on the quarterback and being smart and being able to slide early based on situation, circumstance, depending on what defenders are. And I think defenders have to protect themselves and understand the situation at hand. If knowing that the quarterback on slide and also knowing who you playing against, you know, you some, you got some quarterbacks that are knuckleheads, you know, right. They're dropped. So they'll drop the shoulder now.
Chad Johnson
Exactly.
Shannon Sharpe
You have some quarterbacks that just really ain't like that and you know they don't, they gonna get down and slide. It's all about knowing who you playing against.
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Chad Johnson
What we got despite his struggles, Aaron Rodgers says he has nothing to prove over the final fast five games, inferring that his career compliments should supersede. See, I told you. Should supersede his performance down the stretch. He said it would be ridiculous to make a player with his resume audition for next season. Ocho, this is why we love professional sports. Because what must you do every week, Ocho? Update your resume.
Shannon Sharpe
Update your resume.
Chad Johnson
So I want to ask Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers, what has those four MVPs done for the Giant, the Jets this year? That's what you do every time you step on the field. Ocho I'm playing for my job. Yeah, yeah, but you.
Shannon Sharpe
You already know what they're gonna do, though. You are. You look. You already know what they gonna do. You know how difficult it is to find a quarterback. You know how long the jets been looking for a quarterback?
Chad Johnson
They're still looking.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I know. They still look at. Even though Aaron Rodgers is playing bad, it's the possibility, it's the thought, it's the hope that he's going to play like the Aaron Rodgers of old. And even. Even if he shows glimpse of flashes of the old Aaron Rodgers, maybe for the jets organization, maybe that's just enough to give them hope that things may change. Maybe. So if there's an opportunity or a chance for him to come back next year, guess where he's going to be because of who he is and because of the exact same thing he said because of his resume, he gonna get a chance just because it's him?
Chad Johnson
I don't know. Like I said, I don't know. Woody Johnson. Like a lot of other people, they seem to see that he and the owner of the Jets, Woody Johnson, it's kind of like they don't see eye to eye. There's reports that he wanted to bench Aaron Rodgers at some point in time this year. Coaches fought back at it, fought back against that. If they want me to stay, fantastic. If they take these five games, maybe they don't know what I bring to the table. Nothing this year. But that being said, I love to play really freaking well. These last five games. It's Ocho, you see, that's what I'm saying. He thinks that the normal rules for an NFL Player, Joe Montana. Yeah, he didn't finish. He didn't finish in San Francisco. Emmett Smith, Bruce Smith, Jerry Rice, Some of the historic great players. There are a lot of, what, top 100 players, right, that did not finish their career with the team that drafted them. But somehow Aaron think he should be exempt because of his resume.
Shannon Sharpe
And. Can I. Can I tell you something?
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
In that chat, y'all listen to me, because his name is Aaron Rodgers. Because of what he's done in the past, he's going to get that grace simply because he's a quarterback. Even though some might not like it, we might not like it. It's just the honest truth.
Chad Johnson
I believe there's a greater chance he plays elsewhere than with the Jets.
Shannon Sharpe
Nah, I don't see it. Well, you know, devonte's going after this. He's on. He's on. He's on the one year, huh?
Chad Johnson
Basically, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
You know. You know, you might be right. You might. You might be right because most of the pieces are going to be gone. But what would that be?
Chad Johnson
I don't know. I mean, they talk about everybody keeps hoping to get the old Aaron Rogers. You just getting an old Aaron Rodgers. I mean, I'm not breaking news.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, that.
Chad Johnson
Take that aside. Look, if that man has. If he had another name on the back of that jersey, ain't no way y'all say that man deserves to get. Get the money that he's making. Deserves another opportunity or earned. Forget deserve because he feels he deserves, because of his resume, not based on what he's done. Everybody else must feel, I get this opportunity, I've earned the opportunity to play here, Ocho. To play another season, to get another game. He feels he's deserving based on what he's done, not what he's doing.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. And you know the funny thing? You know why he can say it? Because he knows he gonna get that opportunity. He knows he don't get that chance based on what he's done. Any other position tackles, guards, divers, centers, detachles, cornerback, safeties, will never be extended that grace. There's always. There's always a special place for a quarterback, especially one that has done what Aaron Rodgers has done in the past. Even today, even as bad as it is, he will get that grace because of what he's done in the past. The only position that can get away with that.
Chad Johnson
Block him. Hmm. Jamar Chase. Dad said he could still win the super bowl with the Cincinnati Bengals. If our defense was a little bit better, we would be in the Super Bowl. Talk this offense is unstoppable.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, talk. Talk. Come on, talk. Papa Chase.
Chad Johnson
No, Ocho. Ocho. Ocho, you can't. Ocho.
Shannon Sharpe
Come on. Papa Chase. That's what I'm talking about.
Chad Johnson
Ocho. People believe. Where is this coming from? Be it true or imagine who they believe he's speaking for.
Shannon Sharpe
You think he's speaking for Chase?
Chad Johnson
It's not a rhetorical question. I asked you the question.
Shannon Sharpe
You know what? That's. That's. You know what? That's a good one. But in this case. In this case, being that I know Papa Chase, right?
Chad Johnson
He's at.
Shannon Sharpe
He's at every game. He watches every game. He's been going to all the games. And Chase has been a little kid. Based on what he can see from sitting in the stands and going to home and away games, I think his. I mean, you see it. You. I mean, it's right there in front of you. I mean, he sees it every day.
Chad Johnson
But it doesn't matter.
Shannon Sharpe
He's not saying nothing. We not saying, huh? I know I ain't said.
Chad Johnson
But let me ask you this. Let's just say for the sake. Let's just say for the sake of argument, talk to me. You. You were dating rail. Now we can see you ain't getting to catch if you ain't getting attempt the targets that you normally get.
Shannon Sharpe
Come on, now.
Chad Johnson
All I'm saying is that my man. Hey, they give him opportunities. Y'all see what he can do. Y'all know. Y'all know what my man, do. He been doing it for five or six years. Do they believe. Even though we can see it, do we believe that that's real talking or. We believe that's real talking for Ocho.
Shannon Sharpe
That's probably real talk about Ocho.
Chad Johnson
Yeah. Even though I agree with you, that's probably his own synopsis based on his knowledge of football and what he sees, right? But that's not how the media and that's not how people that watch will take it.
Shannon Sharpe
We're gonna take it. Right. I understand what you're saying now about it is normally when it comes to family members, family members that really don't know the game like that, you know, they just. They go to it because, you know, it's a family. It's a family member friend. But in this case, yeah, you know what I mean? I'm giving it the benefit of doubt because we have somebody that's really integrated into the sport, that played the sport, never. He didn't make it to the highest level, but he is really into it like that, and he submerged himself into it now that his son plays for the Bengals. So in this case, I'm giving him the benefit of doubt. Maybe it might be something that Chase might say, but before chasing papa Chase to say it for him.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, I was. I was very conscious of what I said around anybody because. But I. But I always told my mom, I said, mom, anything that you say, they're gonna feel that you got it from meals Spanky. I said, my homeboy said, bro, whatever y'all say, they're gonna feel, it came from me, right? Be my. Always keep that in mind. You never know. Just because you know that person, you don't know who that person knows. So they take what you said and they go back. Oh, yeah, you know, that's. That's. Man, that's a sharp homeboy. That's his right hand, man. The one bucket and burnt. Yeah, it's got to be some truth to it. So you just have to be mindful of what you say, because you never know. That's one person.
Shannon Sharpe
Right?
Chad Johnson
But he might know three or four people. And then you get four or five degrees of separation, and now all of a sudden use something that you said innocently, all of a sudden grows legs. Yeah, you. I'm not telling you anything you don't know. You've been in this game. You know how this thing works.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I definitely do. But the crazy about it, I don't. I don't have the stats in front of you. I think Dan Olofsky ran them off to you when y'all was on ESPN the other day about the losses that the Bengals have had in scoring 24 points and scoring 28 points and scoring 34 points. 38 points, whatever it might be. And all these losses because the defense is playing that bad. There used to be a time they say if you score 17, you win the game.
Chad Johnson
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, you. You win the game. And so the fact that they they've been able to be an offensive juggernaut week in and week out and still lose games is like, come on, now.
Chad Johnson
But here's the thing where I push back on Deal. I understand he has minimal turnovers, but look at the games they lost. And when he's turned the ball over.
Shannon Sharpe
All over, and in the wrong time.
Chad Johnson
You might have one turnover, but guess what? They pulled it out and they tied the game up with your fumble. Okay, you was. You had a three point lead, but guess what? You threw an interception. They kick a field goal, and now, boom. So you see, people just keep Looking at the number of turnovers, but look at when he turned the ball over. You and I have always, we concluded, Ocho, all turnovers aren't created equal. You turn the ball over in the first quarter, it's a big difference than when you turn it over in the fourth quarter. You up by three or you down three. That turnover weighs differently than in the first quarter when it's 00 or 7, 3 or 7 nothing. And so you go back and look at, look at when he turned the ball over against Baltimore. Look at when he turned the ball over against Kansas City. Look at when the game that he lost when they turned the ball over. That has to. And guess what? Fumbles are turnovers. Also. People just say, well, he ain't through before interceptions, but what about the fumbles? How many times has he fumbled? Those are turnovers also, because guess what, if your defense can't stop their offense, you definitely can't give their defense. You can't give the opposing defense points on your possessions. Yeah, you already made it abundantly clear that you have to be damn near perfect. Even if you're not perfect, the one thing you can't do is to give the opposing offense a short field or give them points on your possessions. Because now you're like, well, damn, we can't stop them. We just gave them seven points. If we don't score here, Ocho, when we come back on the field, the score is about to be 10 nothing to 14 nothing.
Shannon Sharpe
I guarantee you it put you right behind a ball.
Chad Johnson
Now you're really, now you really, really, really got depressed. I've been in situations where we couldn't, if we didn't turn the ball over, we weren't going to lose. But it's hard to play, Ocho, because you're only going to throw the ball on third down. They know you're going to throw the ball on third down. So we seeing an eight, nine man box on first and second now. How difficult you think it's going to damn be to try to get on third down when it's third and eight, third and nine and they know you gonna throw it.
Shannon Sharpe
You better make some hay on first and second down now and make those third downs very tangible.
Chad Johnson
You try to, you try to get. Everybody wants to be third and manageable. Yeah, we look at third and manageable. Third one to three, five is okay. You start getting third and seven, third and 10, third and 13, you ain't gonna be picking them up on the rig.
Shannon Sharpe
Your playbook shrinks significantly the greater the.
Chad Johnson
Distance the smaller the playbook get. We only got like two or three plays for third and third, 30, 10 or more.
Shannon Sharpe
That's it. And most of the time, you're gonna have to check that down anyway.
Chad Johnson
Ocho, check this out. The NFL will find players $15,000 if players post their drug test request from the league on social media. Per a new memo sent to ages. Players across the league are extremely unhappy about this.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, but NFL is so funny about control. I'm one of the ones who used to do that as well. I used to do that. And you know what's so funny about. About social media? It's the fact that people in the chat. If you can go on Twitter right now. So just. Just do me a favor, please go on Twitter right now and see if you can find me complaining about getting drug tested after a game. It's still up there. You know, it's something that I did. It's something that some of the players do. And anytime you have a good game, a game that's out of the norm, they think it's something wrong with you. What's the. They do they drug test you the next day? Hell, sometimes they might catch you right after the game.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, they might get you. Right. I definitely didn't think it was random because I'm getting tested seven times a year and the pun and the kicker getting tested one time a year. Now, clearly, you look at them, clearly they. If they. Whatever they take it is backfired. It ain't working.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Chad Johnson
I'm like, how did. How's it random when I get selected damn near every week or every other week, and this guy gets tested once a year? I'm confused. They come see me in the off season.
Shannon Sharpe
It's also a based on position too, huh? It's also based on position. Yeah. What are we testing kicker for anyway? Think about it.
Chad Johnson
Eating too many hamburgers and pizzas. That's what's in his system. But I. But I. But I don't. But, Ocho, tell me this. What do you. What do you. What do you get by posting that? Are you trying to elicit sympathy from the fans?
Savannah Guthrie
No.
Chad Johnson
No, I don't get. Like I said, I was frustrated, Ocho, because you. I got tested. I got tested a bunch. And even in the off season, because in the off season, I was. When I was living in Savannah, the guy would come to the airport, Ocho. I would meet the guy at the airport. He would get off the plane, he would go. He would. We'd go into the bathroom. Bathroom?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
At that point in time, Ocho, they have to keep the bathroom open, so you would have to turn to the side so he could see it and.
Shannon Sharpe
Make sure you ain't doing nothing wrong.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because guys have started getting the wizard. Nader. They were getting somebody else urine and bag and strapping it to their legs. You know, dude, darker than me, and he got pink meat hanging down there. You know what I'm saying? Come on, bro. So I said, come on, dude. That's the dude from Minnesota, Ocho. He don't got the wizard. That's how they found out about it.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, you know what's funny? Hey, Chad, this is so funny, too. In the off season, it doesn't matter where you are in the world.
Chad Johnson
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Shannon Sharpe
If you got to get a drug test, they're coming. They coming. Wherever you at. You could be in Europe, you could be in Italy, you could be in Spain, you could be in London.
Chad Johnson
They coming.
Shannon Sharpe
You can be in anywhere. It doesn't matter. Wherever you are in the world, once you have that drug test, even in the off season, you will get that test taken within 24 hours.
Chad Johnson
You used to tell about Joe, I'm gonna be in St. Thomas or I'm gonna be out of town on vacation. Okay, we'll get you when you get back. Oh, no. Where are you gonna be?
Shannon Sharpe
They're gonna.
Chad Johnson
Hey, they won't ask you. Where are you gonna be?
Shannon Sharpe
We'll have somebody there. We'll have somebody there to meet you within an hour.
Chad Johnson
They will. They will show up. They absolutely will. O. And that was. I'm like. Because at first, Ocho, they used to let you go in the bath. Because what they would do, they would be in the training room. They would give you the cup. They let you go to the bathroom.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
And come back. Okay. And then they was like, okay. They would follow you to the bathroom. But they would let. They would let. Still let you close the door. But what guys were doing, they would already have somebody else urine stored.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
Poured into the cup. Pretend like, you know, and so forth and so on. So then there's like, nah, nah, nah. Y'all didn't do it right. Y'all think y'all slick. So now drop your pants. You gotta put your pants to your ankle. You gotta turn to the side. I mean, come on, bro.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
Another man watching another grown man pee in a cup. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
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Chad Johnson
But that's the way it is now. Ocho and they say this is. This is. They said. I read the memo. They said it's always been a rule, but there was no, I guess no fine or no term, no punishment behind it. So now they attach 15,000.
Shannon Sharpe
They weren't enforcing it, but I think, I think the NFL is now fed up and just players want to let people know how ridiculous it is that they're being fined. I mean, fine. Fine. That they're being drug tested and it's normally after and exquisite performance. Every time.
Chad Johnson
Every time I was like, man, hey, I mean I want, you know, just because okay, I had 90. Okay, I had 130. What y'all felt? What I mean, I'm trying to figure out what happened in that week.
Shannon Sharpe
Right?
Chad Johnson
Well, what y'all why y'all ain't trust me when I when I had four catches for 22 yards. Y'all need to drug test the coaches and ask them why they call them bullshit plays. That's what y'all need to test. Ocho the Ravens suspended Deontay Johnson for one game in 2024. Has not been kind to Deontay from being traded off two NFL teams and becoming practically non existent in the Ravens dynamic offense and now being suspended one game after refusing to go into Baltimore week 13. O Cho yeah, I tried to tell you when he was In Pittsburgh, they talk. I said they're gonna tolerate you until they. He took that same attitude. You. They won't listen to me. Oh, how you know? Because I know because I've been in locker room and I was de facto. I was a leading voice, and I've seen guys just like Deontay Johnson, and he took that same behavior. If y'all think this man has changed, y'all think he just got like this when he got to Baltimore, huh? Y'all think that, Chad? Y'all really think that's who Deontay. It would become that. No, but y'all don't want to listen to me. Oh, thank you. Know everything. I don't know everything. I know a little bit about everything except technology. But when it comes to human behavior, I know a lot about that. I told you, y'all won't listen to me now, so I. Hey, chat. When I was saying this behavior in Pittsburgh, where y'all at now? Why we can't find no Ocho? Why we can't find anybody. They go against us. But when we write, don't nobody jump in the chat and say Ocho. I was one of the ones that said Ocho. You was wrong, but you was right. Why we can't get that Ocho?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, you're right. Listen, I do. I do listen. I'm not saying what he did was right. I do understand his frustrations. Obviously, getting traded to Baltimore and wanting to be an intricate part of the offense and really not getting those opportunities. He's had catches. I think he slipped on a few. He's dropped a few. But he's also caught some balls, but not to the point where he thought he would. I mean, obviously, you're one. You're going to. You're going to a running team. They running the ball first anyway, so your opportunities are going to come. Few and very. And few and how you say it. What's the word? Few and far.
Chad Johnson
Few and far between.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Few and far between. Especially in that offense. Especially when they already have Zay Flowers and Bateman and Aguilar. You're going to have to get in where you fit in. And when you do get the opportunities, you will have to make the most.
Chad Johnson
You gotta catch it.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, that. That, too. You gotta catch me. You gotta make the most of them Ocho.
Chad Johnson
I don't. Look, I was a pretty good player, and I wanted to catch the football because I worked my ass off during the course of the week. I felt I had done all the right things, from studying to preparing to Practicing hard to doing all the right things. Oh, I really wanted to catch the ball. Yeah. Sometimes they didn't throw me the ball. Guess what I did. Guess what I did on Monday, Ojo.
Shannon Sharpe
What you did.
Chad Johnson
Take my black ass upstairs and pick up that check. I got paid by the game, not by the catch, right? So now if y'all want to pay me this amount of money to catch no balls, I'm gonna go, right. I ain't gonna say a word, right? Y'all want to. Hey, If I caught 13 passes, I made the same amount of money as if I caught two. Now, it's gonna look foolish on y'all, but I'm not, I'm not. I'm not finna get lose my mind, but y'all not throwing me the ball because I know what I can do. Y'all know what I can do. Yeah, but to not go in a.
Shannon Sharpe
Game, yeah, that's, that's, that's hella. That's hella frustration built up.
Chad Johnson
Well, you need. Hey, you need to be Jared Rice. I remember, I think. Who was it? Was it Bill Callahan? It might have been Bill Callahan. What happened that broke Jared Rice consecutive game streak of catching a pass? Jerry had, like two something over 200 catches, and he didn't throw him a pass.
Shannon Sharpe
Damn.
Chad Johnson
Oh, yeah, he snapped it. He broke it. Go back and look at, I think, I think it against the Seahawks. And then at the point in time, Ocho, they were up. So you know they're not going to throw the ball, right. Jerry was frustrated. Jerry came out there the next weekend, went crazy. I don't know if he went crazy, but he took his ass in the game. And that's Jerry. At the time, at the time that happened, Jerry was the greatest receiver had ever played. And if he gonna take it, man, how you in good conscience tell the coach you ain't going in the game, Ocho?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I mean, listen, I, I, I've never been in a position like that where I had to be.
Chad Johnson
I don't want to be in a position like that, Ocho, I'm a football player. That's my job, to take my black ass in the game.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, I, Ocho, I never want to. I never wanted to have that kind of power that I feel. Look, I've been very fortunate that, you know, played on some teams and they kind of gave me some leeway, but it tell you a lot about a person that has power and doesn't abuse. It tells you a lot about a person now. Yeah, everybody can't use that kind of power for good, sometimes people will use it for bad and take advantage of it.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Chad Johnson
You know, being in Baltimore, you know, I remember we went to Baltimore and, you know, we didn't have a whole lot of rules, Ocho. Just be on time, things like that. Sometimes it drove me crazy that Coach Belichick would let guys skirt on the time. But, hey, it is what it is. We go to the super bowl now, we don't have bed check, right? He gave us one rule. Coach Belichick gave us one rule. He says, I want everybody to ride the bus from the hotel to the practice field.
Shannon Sharpe
Right?
Chad Johnson
What's. Practice is over. I want everybody to get on the bus and ride back to the hotel. After that, you can do whatever you want to do. Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Chad Johnson
Rookie, he from Florida, his mom and dad down. He gonna ride back to the heat about. He gonna ride back to the hotel with his parents. I don't know if you ain't. What I said. Oh, no, fua. I said, you think you finna eff it up for everybody?
Shannon Sharpe
Yes. Right.
Chad Johnson
I said, the man gave us one. We don't have bad check. We don't have. We don't have nothing. And the man said, I got one rule. From the hotel to the practice field, Practice field, back to the hotel. And you talk about, boy, that's really the only time I want you. I ever really got mad, Right? Oh, just the Super Bowl.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
I don't think he really understood the significance of it. Maybe he's just looking at it like another game. Yeah, but they chronicle this one. This one's here for perpetuity. They got, I don't know how many games they played, probably 15,000, 17,800. They've only played at that point in time, 35 Super Bowls. And now you think, I better let you potentially hang a l. Man, you'll get your ass on this bus. I'm gonna be. I'm gonna have to fight you and your parents. But you can you get your ass on that bus, man, please?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Don't mess it up. Yes, everybody. You can't. You can't do that. That's that.
Chad Johnson
Ocho, just think if your coaching. Ocho, you in Cincinnati and Marvin say, ocho, y'all just got one rule. He ain't say, hey, Ocho, you can wear whatever you want to wear. You can wear one pay. You could wear shorts, you could wear this, you could wear that. He said, ocho, all I want you to do is that I want you to write from the practice field. I Want you to take. I want you to get, get on these golf carts and go down to the practice field and then get on the golf carts and go back to the facility. That's only rule I got for you. Okay? Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, simple as that.
Chad Johnson
Ocho. Justin Jefferson said he hasn't spoken to Kirk Cousins since he left in free agency. Ocho, did you talk to former teammates if they left in free agency?
Shannon Sharpe
You know what? Not. Not really. Not really. I really didn't. I remember TJ left and went to Seattle, if I'm not mistaken, and the Raiders. Carson left and went to Arizona and went to the Raiders. No, no, we didn't talk much, but what we did do is we did keep in communication in the off season. Like in season, you know, when players left, we exchanged pleasantries before left and, you know, that was it. That was pretty much it. So especially in season, you know, we didn't talk much. Hell, the funny thing about it, we didn't talk much when they left then, but now we talk more and we played in so goddamn long, which is weird. You know, everybody's always on their own program. And you hate to see him go. That's one thing about it. You hate to see him go. Especially, you know, the combination and the duo that TJ and I were during that time. And to see Carson goal was also sad. But, you know, we didn't, we didn't communicate after that. Man, once they were gone, they were going. They, you know, we understood the business aspect of things and the way things work. You know, if I see you in passing in off season, you know, it's all love.
Chad Johnson
I did when I left Baltimore, went back to Denver, me and Ray, we still talk once, twice a week. When I went, when I left Denver and went to Baltimore, me and Burns. But in. Burns ended up leaving and going to Tampa. Well, he left in Tampa in 99. And so I was there by myself. That was, that was the worst year of my entire life. And then in 14 years, that was the worst year I ever had. Right. But he and I, we still talk. We're normal. We talked every day. But those were really the only two guys that I really talked to during the season. But like you said, once the season was over, you know, a lot of the guys, Fats and a couple of other guys, Duke Jackson. Yeah. House. Well, we still, we still communicating and we, you know, I got, you know, we close today, but yeah, I can see Justin. I mean, I don't think, I don't think that's unusual now. I didn't have a quarterback. I didn't have a quarterback leaving Fredness. But no, hell, I want to talk to the quarterback. Hell, John and I didn't talk in off season. So I know damn well if I had gone to another team or he had gone to another team, we weren't going to be talking during the season. Hell, we didn't talk in the off season and we on the same damn team. So I don't. I don't think that's. I don't think that's strange at all. You.
Shannon Sharpe
No, absolutely not. Absolutely not. Because I didn't. I mean, I lived it. I lived it.
Chad Johnson
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Club Shay Shay: Nightcap - Hour 1 Summary
Release Date: December 6, 2024
In this engaging episode of Club Shay Shay, NFL legend Shannon Sharpe and former wide receiver Chad Johnson delve deep into the current NFL landscape, analyzing recent games, coaching strategies, and controversial topics shaping the league. The conversation is rich with insights, personal anecdotes, and spirited debates, providing listeners with a comprehensive understanding of the season's pivotal moments.
Shannon Sharpe and Chad Johnson kick off their discussion by breaking down the thrilling matchup between the Detroit Lions and the Green Bay Packers. The Lions secured a narrow victory with a final score of 34-31, pushing their record to 12-1 while the Packers slipped to 9-4.
Key Highlights:
Jared Goff's Performance: Goff showcased efficiency, completing 32 of 41 passes for 283 yards, three touchdowns, and one interception with only one sack. Sharpe commends his versatile passing game, highlighting his ability to connect with six different receivers.
Shannon Sharpe [08:00]: "Jared Goff had another efficient game... he was sacked once."
Dan Campbell's Impact: The duo praises Lions' head coach Dan Campbell for transforming the team's culture into a winning one. Campbell's aggressive strategies, such as going for it on fourth down, reflect his unwavering belief in his players.
Shannon Sharpe [09:58]: "When you talk about having cojones... that's Dan Campbell."
Packers' Resilience: Despite the loss, Sharpe notes the Packers' strong performance, emphasizing their ability to stay competitive throughout the game.
Chad Johnson [11:04]: "I'm impressed with Green Bay because they could have easily run ahead."
The conversation shifts to a detailed appreciation of Dan Campbell's coaching prowess. Sharpe lauds Campbell for his bold decision-making and ability to foster a resilient team spirit.
Notable Points:
Winning Culture: Campbell's shift towards an aggressive, "balls to the wall" approach has instilled confidence and unity within the Lions.
Shannon Sharpe [10:25]: "I believe in y'all. So that energy... it's dope."
Consistent Pressure: Campbell maintains constant pressure on both offense and defense, ensuring that the team remains proactive and focused.
Chad Johnson [11:04]: "He's constantly pedal to the metal... putting pressure on his team."
Comparison with Other Coaches: The hosts compare Campbell's single-voice leadership to other successful coaches like Mike Tomlin and those of the Kansas City Chiefs, emphasizing the effectiveness of unified coaching voices.
Shannon Sharpe [12:11]: "You notice what they're able to do consistently, year in and year out, win."
Sharpe and Johnson tackle the surprising news of Bill Belichick interviewing for the University of North Carolina's head coaching position. The hosts express mixed feelings about this move, debating its implications for Belichick’s illustrious NFL career.
Key Insights:
Belichick’s Legacy: Sharpe argues that Belichick should remain in the NFL to continue building his legacy rather than transitioning to college football.
Shannon Sharpe [29:41]: "I want Bill to stay with us inside the NFL until the right job comes to him."
Challenges in College Coaching: They highlight the differences between NFL and college coaching, such as recruitment dynamics and competition levels, suggesting that Belichick might face significant hurdles at UNC.
Shannon Sharpe [32:24]: "He needs to adapt to today’s players... revamp his strategies for the current era."
Belichick’s Adaptability: While acknowledging Belichick’s legendary status, Johnson expresses skepticism about his ability to adapt to college football's unique demands.
Chad Johnson [30:59]: "Mike Belichick is not sure what Dak meant by needing more influence on his terms."
A heated debate ensues over Tom Brady’s recent statements criticizing NFL rule changes, particularly those aimed at protecting quarterbacks.
Discussion Points:
Hypocrisy Allegation: Sharpe accuses Brady of hypocrisy, arguing that the rule changes benefited him during his career and questioning his stance on altering them.
Shannon Sharpe [39:08]: "He's the wrong messenger because he benefited from the rule changes to protect the quarterback."
Impact on the Game: Johnson and Sharpe discuss how these rule changes have altered defensive strategies and quarterback behavior, using examples like Trevor Lawrence’s late slides.
Chad Johnson [40:12]: "Quarterbacks are benefitting from rules that were implemented to protect them."
Rule Enforcement: They critique the NFL’s enforcement of these rules, suggesting inconsistencies and potential biases in how penalties are applied.
Chad Johnson [42:03]: "They're gonna have to do something about this. Like, you can't fake a slide because they changed the rules in college."
The hosts shift focus to Aaron Rodgers’ performance and the broader implications for the Dallas Cowboys' defense. They analyze Rodgers’ influence on team dynamics and defensive strategies.
Highlights:
Rodgers’ Exempt Status: Johnson questions Rodgers’ expectation to be exempt from poor performance due to his illustrious past, emphasizing the need for current contributions over past accolades.
Chad Johnson [53:02]: "If he had another name on the back of that jersey, ain't no way y'all say that man deserves to get."
Defensive Weaknesses: Sharpe and Johnson critique the Cowboys’ defensive shortcomings, attributing some struggles to strategic missteps and lack of accountability.
Shannon Sharpe [59:34]: "Everybody knows you have to be damn near perfect... you can't give the defensive offense points on your possessions."
Player Relations: They discuss the evolving relationships between players and coaches, highlighting issues of respect and communication within teams.
Chad Johnson [77:03]: "I'm a football player. That's my job, to take my black ass in the game."
Addressing recent changes, Sharpe and Johnson critique the NFL’s intensified drug testing protocols, arguing they are selectively enforced and disproportionately target certain positions.
Critical Observations:
Selective Testing: Johnson points out the inconsistency in testing frequency among positions, highlighting how quarterbacks like himself face more frequent checks compared to kickers.
Chad Johnson [63:43]: "I was getting tested seven times a year and the punter's getting tested one time a year."
Privacy Concerns: They express frustration over the invasive nature of drug testing, questioning the league’s motives and the impact on players' privacy.
Shannon Sharpe [98:00]: "It's all about knowing who you’re playing against."
Enforcement Disparities: The hosts argue that the NFL enforces rules more strictly on players they perceive as more influential or able to speak out, such as quarterbacks.
Chad Johnson [74:42]: "That's why Tom is the wrong messenger... he benefited from rules meant to protect quarterbacks."
The conversation concludes with reflections on player trades and the impact on team chemistry. Sharpe shares personal experiences regarding maintaining relationships with former teammates post-trade.
Key Takeaways:
Business vs. Personal Relationships: Both hosts emphasize the transactional nature of NFL trades, noting that personal relationships often take a backseat to business decisions.
Shannon Sharpe [81:34]: "If I see you in passing in the off-season, it's all love."
Maintaining Connections: Johnson speaks to the importance of keeping communication open with former teammates, despite team changes.
Chad Johnson [83:09]: "But in this case, I'm giving him the benefit of doubt because we have somebody that's really integrated into the sport."
Shannon Sharpe and Chad Johnson wrap up the episode by reiterating their support for outstanding coaching and player performance while critiquing league policies that they perceive as unfair or inconsistently applied.
Notable Quotes:
Shannon Sharpe:
"When you talk about having cojones... that's Dan Campbell." [09:58]
Chad Johnson:
"He's constantly pedal to the metal... putting pressure on his team." [11:04]
Shannon Sharpe:
"He's the wrong messenger because he benefited from the rule changes to protect the quarterback." [39:08]
Chad Johnson:
"If he had another name on the back of that jersey, ain't no way y'all say that man deserves to get." [53:02]
This episode of Club Shay Shay offers a multifaceted exploration of the NFL’s current state, blending game analysis with critical discussions on coaching, player dynamics, and league policies. Sharpe and Johnson's candid dialogue provides listeners with both expert insights and thought-provoking perspectives on key issues affecting the sport today.