Nightcap Hour 1: Darius Acuff Jr. SHINES in WIN over High Point + Nebraska OUTLASTS Vanderbilt in THRILLER + Texas UPSETS Gonzaga + Cam Boozer & Duke DOMINATES TCU + Houston TAKES DOWN Texas A&M + Michigan State TOPS St. Louis

Summary

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Club Shay Shay: Nightcap Hour 1 – March Madness Breakdown

Podcast: Club Shay Shay
Date: March 22, 2026
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe (NFL Hall of Famer), Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson, Joe Johnson
Featured Topics: NCAA Tournament (March Madness) Recap & Analysis – Arkansas vs High Point (Darius Acuff Jr.), Nebraska vs Vanderbilt, Texas upsets Gonzaga, Cam Boozer & Duke dominate TCU, Houston beats Texas A&M, Michigan State tops St. Louis.

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Episode Overview

This episode of Club Shay Shay’s Nightcap dives deep into the thrilling action of the March Madness NCAA Men's Basketball tournament. Shannon Sharpe, Chad Johnson, and Joe Johnson give unfiltered, passionate, and knowledgeable breakdowns of standout games, rising stars, and the art of clutch performances—especially focusing on guard play, NBA draft stock, and the realities of being a college athlete. The hosts pepper the analysis with playful rivalry banter, historical context, and plenty of wisdom for athletes blazing a trail to the pros.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Darius Acuff Jr. Shines as Arkansas Beats High Point

• Recap & Praise
  • Arkansas wins 94–88 over High Point; Darius Acuff Jr. explodes for 36 points.
  • Shannon and Joe agree: “He was sensational tonight again, Joe. He was sensational again tonight.” (Shannon Sharpe, 08:17)
  • “It’s cuffing season, baby!” (Chad Johnson, 08:34)
• Guard Play in March Madness
  • Joe Johnson emphasizes the importance of guard play: “That’s the difference in having great guard play in the NCAA tournament. So I’m glad Acuff is on our side.” (09:19)
  • Acuff’s ability to handle pressure, shoot threes, and take over late is highlighted—“He just took over the game. That’s instinctively in him.” (Chad Johnson, 13:38)
  • High Point’s Martin matched Acuff for stretches (Martin with 30 pts); Fletcher added 25 off the bench.
• Draft Stock & The Right Fit
  • The panel discusses Acuff’s NBA prospects. “Me personally, looking at him, I didn’t think he was going to get out of the top five. … Everything that you want in a guard.” (Shannon Sharpe, 10:41)
  • They debate which NBA destination would allow Acuff the best chance to flourish—“Let him play through their mistakes. Let him learn through the mistakes because he got the talent.” (Chad Johnson, 14:40)
• Clutch Factor
  • “When it comes down to the clutch…he just took over the game.” (Chad Johnson, 13:38)

2. Nebraska Outlasts Vanderbilt in a Thriller

• Game Recap
  • Nebraska narrowly defeats Vanderbilt 74–72; a near half-court buzzer-beater rims out.
  • “Vanderbilt had the lead for a while and I was like, okay, Vanderbilt might do it. And then here come the Cornhuskers.” (Shannon Sharpe, 21:19)
• Game Analytics & Grit
  • Despite Nebraska’s efficient shooting—56% FG, 47% 3pt—the game stayed close due to turnovers and missed opportunities.
  • Reflects on March Madness unpredictability: “In a one game, it’s not who is the better team, it’s who plays the best on a given night.” (Shannon Sharpe, 23:42)
• Magic of March
  • Seeds and expectations “don’t really matter, bro… it’s gonna be your will versus mine.” (Chad Johnson, 24:01)

3. Texas Upsets Gonzaga

• Summary & Surprise Factor
  • Texas (11 seed) knocks out Gonzaga (3 seed) 74–68.
  • “I didn’t see Texas playing this well and winning this ball game.” (Shannon Sharpe, 31:40)
  • Four Longhorns in double figures; matched up against Gonzaga star Ike’s 25 points.
• Statistical Edge
  • “Texas shot 52% from the field… you let them shoot 52%, you’re gonna lose the majority of them games.” (Chad Johnson, 32:43)

4. Cam Boozer and Duke Dominate TCU

• The Tale of Two Halves
  • Boozer: “First half, two points… second half, 17 points.” (Shannon Sharpe, 35:05)
  • Duke’s size and team-oriented attack overwhelm the Horned Frogs.
  • “That’s poise from a young freshman who I think is going to have a tremendous pro career…he a monster down there.” (Chad Johnson, 36:41)
• Comparisons to His Dad (Carlos Boozer)
  • “He’s definitely better than his dad as a freshman.” (Shannon Sharpe, 37:16)

5. Houston Takes Down Texas A&M

• Houston’s Relentless Ways
  • Houston dominates Texas A&M 88–57.
  • “Freshman Chris Sinak Jr. continued to play well, finished with 17.9 rebounds… Cougar’s force 11 turnovers.” (Shannon Sharpe, 47:41)
  • Defensive prowess and deep rotation praised: “They play defense. They got some dogs under that basket.” (Chad Johnson, 48:27; 48:33)

6. Michigan State and Michigan March On

• Michigan State
  • Jeremy Fears sets Big Ten record: “First Big Ten player in the last 50 years with 27 dishes over two games in NCAA tournament span, passing Magic Johnson.” (Shannon Sharpe, 73:27)
  • “Michigan State look good?” – “They did.” (74:01)
• Michigan
  • Lindenberg, the “Dominican LeBron,” scores 25 with no turnovers.
  • Glenn Rice’s legendary 1989 run is fondly recalled—“Glenn Rice cooked, folks… averaged 30.3 in the tournament.” (Shannon Sharpe, 80:24; 80:34)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Guard Play:
  • “That’s the difference in having great guard play in the NCAA tournament.” – Joe Johnson (09:19)
• On Acuff’s NBA Prospects:
  • “Let him play through their mistakes…let him learn through the mistakes because he got the talent.” – Chad Johnson (14:40)
• On March Madness:
  • “It’s not who is the better team, it’s who plays the best on a given day, on a given night, that determines it.” – Shannon Sharpe (23:42)
• On Duke’s Freshman Cam Boozer:
  • “He’s definitely better than his dad as a freshman.” – Shannon Sharpe (37:16)
  • “Ain’t nothing flashy about his game…like some Tim Duncan type stuff, just gets it done.” – Chad Johnson (39:49)
• Retro Perspective on College Athlete Life:
  • “Hey, what’s your major? Eligibility.” – Shannon Sharpe (51:38)
• Coaching and Film Study Anecdotes:
  • “I ain’t know how to watch film. What the hell I’m looking for, what I’m supposed to be…” – Shannon Sharpe (65:09)
  • “In basketball, as a rookie, opportunities are few and far between, so the ones you do get you wanna make them count.” – Joe Johnson (68:14)
• Legacy Talk – Duke Stars:
  • “As a college player, it ain’t even close. Nobody do close to Christian Laettner.” – Shannon Sharpe (43:19)
• Bracket Banter:
  • Joe and Ocho go back-and-forth about their brackets and favorite teams: “It ain’t nothing personal. It’s just business, okay? I’m going for them Wildcats.” – Joe Johnson (30:00)
  • “Me and your next game gonna be a telltale, boy. ’Cause Arkansas play Arizona – when we put y’all out, you might as well pack your bags, homeboy.” – Chad Johnson (82:02)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Darius Acuff Jr. & Arkansas vs. High Point: 07:53 – 18:21
• Nebraska vs. Vanderbilt Breakdown: 20:57 – 24:26
• Texas Upsets Gonzaga: 31:06 – 34:04
• Duke (Cam Boozer) vs. TCU: 35:05 – 42:01
• Houston vs. Texas A&M: 47:41 – 49:28
• Michigan State & Michigan Highlights (Fears, Lindenberg): 73:27 – 81:21

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Tone, Style, and Vibe

• High-energy, barbershop-style debate, mixing sharp analysis with jokes and friendly rivalry.
• Authentic former athlete perspective—unvarnished takes on coaching, talent development, the economics of college sports, and the grind of turning pro.
• Lively reflections on hoops history, hilarious digressions about old school athletic life, and a deep love for the game.

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For New Listeners: Why This Episode Matters

If you crave unfiltered athlete insight and locker room storytelling wrapped around the madness of March, this is a classic Nightcap episode. Whether you need a primer on Darius Acuff’s rise, want legendary player comparisons, or just want to get in the mood for more tournament surprises, this show will inform, entertain, and fire up any college basketball fan.

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Transcript

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[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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Okay. As you can see, the clicker is going. We're about 25, 33 away from 2 million. Let's keep it going. Let's try to get there in the next few days. Arkansas beat High Point. Whoa. Score of 94.88. Darius Acuff finished with 36 points. John Calipari was making 17th trip to the Sweet 16. When the. When asked Arkansas when who's the difference in the team? Calipari didn't miss word. I think it's that kid, Darius Akov. We put him in his head. We put it in his hands, and I trust him. And. And the team trust him. He was sensational tonight again, Joe. He was sensational again tonight.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Okay, Ocho.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

It's cuffing season, baby. Huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Yes, sir.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

It is a cuff. It's cuffing season. Listen, hey, man, that's why I say in the tournament, Ocho, you gotta have great guard play. Give high points some. Give high points some credit. Give the kid Martin credit because he came out and he answered the bell. You know, he took on the challenge in playing against Acuff, went bucket for bucket for him. He had 30 points. It was a great game. Great game. I just think the poise and patience that we play with down the stretch, especially Acuff getting to his spots. Uncle Ocho, that's the difference in having great guard play in the NCAA tournament. So I'm glad Acuff is on our side, bro. He looked great. I think he's the one guy who continue to boost his draft stock throughout this tournament. He continued to keep playing at this high level that he's playing at. He gonna be undeniable, fellas. He gonna be undeniable.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, yeah, Uncle Joe. Boy, Acuff was nice. He was aggressive. I mean, he didn't.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

He didn't.

[Joe Johnson]

He didn't take over. He did what he needed to do. You know, when he. When he wanted to. When they had to have a point, when they had to have points in general, he was able to put the ball in the flow, get, get to the rack. I knew he was good, obviously, watching highlights, but now being able to watch the whole game and get a better understanding. Okay. Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

He.

[Joe Johnson]

That boy. Hey, like, like, he, he really like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Because he, he's good. He can get off, he can get to the rim. He got the midi. He can shoot the three ball. He's super duper quick. I like the fact that the other guy was going right back at him.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Martin was going right back at him like, bro, I ain't gonna let you light me up. And I just sit here and take. Yeah, well, you take this back at you.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And they were going back and forth and that's what you. And see, Joe, that's what you're talking about. Because when you talk about a guard, you talk about a guy that's going to have the ball in his hand.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

See big. Somebody got to get them the ball. We saw Edie. We saw Edie against Purdue and UConn.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He didn't have the guys that keep getting him the ball. Where the difference was. UConn has to find Castle.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who had the ball in his hands.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So it's a big difference because now I got the ball and I know how to feed Clingan.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who was also on his squad. And so Acuff, man, you're right, Joe. I think he's definitely increasing his draft stock. It's going up. Me personally looking at him, I didn't think he was going to get out of the top five. It's going to see, it's going to be even harder now for him to get out of the top five considering how well he's playing. Because like you said, Joe, he has an NBA body. He's big, he's physical, he's strong, he can play at the rim. He got the mid range. He can shoot the three ball. He can't quit.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, man, everything that you want in

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

a guard, man, his, his senior year in high school, Uncle. Ooh. Acuff shot. I think he shot. I think he shot like low 30s from the three point field goal. From three point percentage.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

This year at Arkansas, bro, he drastically improved that. Like that was my only concern about him coming into college. I knew he was great attacking, getting to the bucket, shooting the floaters, getting to his midi. But the way he shoot the three ball with effortless. You know what I mean? The Poise, the confidence that he has. That's what these scouts are looking for, man. They looking for a guy when he gets under pressure, when he's under duress. Is he stressing or is he calm? Is he cool? Collective in the moment, making plays, bro, he's all that. He's all that. Hey, I keep tipping my hat to him. Cause he keep breaking records. I want to give High Point credit. Cause the guy Fletcher who came off the bench, Uncle Ocho, the boy was a low. The boy was getting money out there. He had 25.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. I said, man, he'll give him that work. Yeah, man.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

So High Point surprised me. I can see why they beating a lot of great teams.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. But you can see why they came back and beat North Carolina. Now. It makes. It makes sense to me. There you go. It makes sense to me. And had you not had a guy like Acuff, you probably lose that game.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The difference is North Carolina didn't have anybody could take the game over.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

They didn't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Arkansas had someone that could take the game over. Now, they did get contribution from a lot of other people. Richmond iii, Malik, Thomas, Ewan, they had guys that can contribute. North Carolina, once they. Once a High Point withstood that onslaught. They had that 19 point lead and as they started to chip away, Hubert Davis didn't have anybody that they could just give the ball and say, son, calm. Calm it down. Absolutely, you're okay.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now, hey, get us in. Get us in a. Hey, get us a good shot. Get us in a good rhythm and just relax. Take a deep breath. Hey, we knew they were gonna make a run at us.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now let's weather this storm. Hey, everybody, as long as you don't blow the roof off the house, we good, right? Right inside. Long as we don't. Hey, as long as we don't come outside and get into the weather, yeah, we're good. And they didn't have that. But tonight Arkansas had that. With Acuff, he's special. Yeah, he's a special kid. He.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

He had.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I believe, Joe, I agree with you. I think he has what it takes to be to. To play at a. I'm not going to be surprised if he averaged somewhere between 15 and 18 points a game next year, depending on where he goes.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, yeah. I think where he gets drafted definitely plays a huge part in that. But Uncle Ocho, it's a lot of great guards out here. It's a lot of good guards playing in this tournament. But then, I mean, dude, a cover game Changer, man. Like, I'm talking about. I'm talking about. Seriously, when it comes down to the clutch, it was 83. 83 with probably two and a half minutes left. And, bro, he just took over the game. You don't have to tell him nothing. That's instinctively in him. That's who he is. That's who he's been. That's who he's been the whole season. He won SEC Freshman of the Year. SEC Player of the Year as a freshman.

[Joe Johnson]

He.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Dude, probably 19 years old, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Hey, high point. Played Wisconsin. They came back and beat Wisconsin.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Uncle Joe, as good as he is with his ability to understand game and understand situations, wherever he gets drafted, based on the situation, are they gonna allow him to be the same player he is at Arkansas even though he's so young, or were they not. I don't wanna say working men a little bit. Obviously, I would assume if he. If he gets picked that high, he's gonna be the starter.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Well, that's my. That's my thing. I think where he gets drafted is more important than anything because I want him to go to a team, Uncle Ocho, where they give him the ball. Let him just play. Yeah. He gonna make mistakes. He a rookie. It's part of it. But let his learning curve be. You know, give him. Give him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Give him.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Give him some leeway, you know what I mean? Versus, you know how they do some of these guys, you come in and make a mistake, you got to come out and sit down. Let him. Let him play through their mistakes. Let him learn through the mistakes because he got the talent.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It all depends on where he goes. You see a guy like a Dylan Harper, he goes, what? Top three in the draft. Yeah. He comes off the bench because you got Castle and you got Wimy. So you have to be. Where does he go matters. It's going to determine, like Joe said, does he have the ball or is he a situation where. Because look at subs. When you got Bancaro and you got Wagner.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. It is hard for you to do your thing because the office is running through those two guys.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So it all depends if he goes somewhere. Let's just say he goes to somewhere. I'm trying to figure out where he can go and be the guy. He can't go to the Wizards because they got trade in A.D. maybe if you look at where the. Utah. Utah. Probably going to want the Bonza.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah. Well, maybe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Maybe you still got Laura marketing and you got. And you got Triple J. So it where can he go? I'm trying to think of teams. I know where you pair with Ja. If he goes to Memphis. Do you pair him with Ja?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That's what I'm gonna say. Nah, I don't want to pair him with Job, but I think they gonna get off of Job, and you might want to replace.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They might be.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I don't really want him to go to Memphis, man. I ain't gonna lie to y', all, man.

[Joe Johnson]

What's wrong with Memphis?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I just don't want him to go to Memphis.

[Joe Johnson]

Ocho, that's right down the street from you, though.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Nah, I know, but I want him. I want him to go to Memphis.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He wanted. He wanted. He wanted. He don't know if Memphis is. Is. Can set him up for success.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, I don't. I really don't. I'm gonna be honest with you. They didn't trade it. They traded away JJ and gave away so many great pieces. Bangs Brooks like. I mean, nobody know what they doing for real.

[Joe Johnson]

You don't.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

They.

[Joe Johnson]

They over there rebuilding.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They trying to get the right. You got Kyrie coming back, and you got Cooper fight flag.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, it's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, Sacramento. You put him in Sacramento, they might. They're gonna be okay, but they're not winning no games. Yeah, he. Now, you put him in Sacramento, you let him lead, he's probably gonna. He probably gonna average 20.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You put him in one of them situations, so he gonna go off. They may not win a lot of games, but he gonna show his talent. He gonna have his talents on display, man. So that's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That. That is. It is so important a cup. Finished the game with 36 point score, 12 of the Razorbacks 15 in the final five minutes of regulation. He also had six assists to join Chris Paul as the only freshman to begin the NCAA tournament career with a consecutive 20.5 assist game since freshman became fully eligible to play in 1973. Joe, if Arizona take care of business against Utah, Acuff lead Arkansas over the Wildcats in the Sweet 16. Kenny, can acuff take down Arizona? Because Arizona, at one point in time, was ranked number one this year. Yeah, they got a solid squad, so they're gonna have the handful.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, this here where it gets sticky right here, fellas. You hear me? But, but, but if I. If I. If I'm correct now, I know my bracket got Arkansas winning it, don't it?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You do?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, okay. Okay. Well, I don't think we need to talk about nothing now. I got Arkansas winning We.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, hey, hey, hey. It ain't nothing personal. It ain't nothing personal with Arizona, man. It's just business, you know what I'm saying? Like, we. Yeah, we got some business to tend to, and there's a couple people in our way, man.

[Joe Johnson]

All right. Hey, Joe, you feeling good about that?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I'm feeling great, Ocho. What you talking about?

[Joe Johnson]

I feel you. You know, Arizona nice over there, huh?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, we nice, too. Did you not see.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, hey, I. I see you. But, you know, you're gonna need more than a cup now going against them Giants, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's okay.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

It's okay. Somebody else will step up, Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y' all got. Y' all had four guys in double figures. You didn't get much. The problem is, Joe, the thing is, what concerns me about you guys is your bench. You only got two points, and basically, like you said, you play seven guys. You play Wagner, he played two minutes. He played 22 minutes. And Sealy played one minute. Whoo. You can't afford to get anybody in foul trouble. Yeah. Hey, we go ahead.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Our starting center, he nicked up, so he may even come back next game. Ewan Ewing, he comes off the bench. He gave us 14 and 12 tonight. Now, he's been starting since the tournament started. He's been playing great. He's been playing unbelievable. But our true center comes back. I think he'll probably play the next game, considering that we'll probably have, what, at least a week off, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Yeah. Y' all probably played next. Probably next Thursday, next Friday.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

We're in a good. We're in a good place, man. We get back home, make sure the boys get some good rest. Make sure we work, though. We gotta put in that work.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We can't.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You can't exhale. You hear me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, hey, hey. I can see it, man. I can see it. I know you. I know you on Ocho. Can't see it, but I can see it. I see it. I see.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I can see it, Joe. Hey, Uncle. Hey. On my bracket, who. I had to win the whole. Who win the whole thing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think McNee State.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got Arizona.

[Joe Johnson]

Don't do me like that. Who I got.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got Arizona to pick to win the whole thing.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay. Okay. Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

It's going to be. It's going to be a good one, Joe.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, yeah. This was the rubber meets the road right here, Ojo.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes, sir.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

They got to win first before they can come see us. They got to play you, them boys.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, what who they play?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Utah State. Arizona do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Arizona played Villanova.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Villanova.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No. Utah State. Yeah, this is my. Yeah, I lost this one. Yeah. Utah State. Utah State. Hey, Utah State better than you think. Hey, they showed me something.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, yeah. Hey, look, look, look. Y' all talking that smack. Cause High Point was better than what I thought. I know. Utah stayed pretty good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They better.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, yeah, them guys out there, babe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, they got a whole lot going on. There ain't no party. It can't be a whole lot of party. There ain't no alcohol. So they can't do that again. They can't do that again. Study and play sports.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That's it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's it. Nebraska beats number, number four. Nebraska beats number five, Vanderbilt. 74, 72. We almost had an all time buzzer beater, guys from Tyler Tanner. Uh, but the half court bank shot goes in and out. It was just, he hit it so hard. Uh, but Nebraska hangs on and they're going to the Sweet 16. 74, 72, Fred Hoiberg, Nebraska Corn Huskers 28 and 6. Takes down the number five Vanderbilt Commodores 20. That was 27 and 9. And this game was going back and forth. Vanderbilt had to leave for a while and I was like, okay, Vanderbilt might do it. And then here come, here come the Corn Huskers.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Vandy. Nice, bro. They play hard. They had a great year. They had a great year this year. They were five seed. I hated SEC team loss. I like for the SEC teams to continue to keep dancing, but I think I had been. Did I have, I think I did have Vanderbilt.

[Joe Johnson]

Nebraska came out on fire, boy, man. But them first what I think, but eight, maybe eight or 10 points. They were getting money, getting money, hitting all, every, everything were falling.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

And that's what it seemed like too. When you play in them environments, bro, it's like you got, you got teams and guys who play way above their head and you like, hold on, bro, you wasn't even on the scouting report.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, I'm trying to figure. Well, I can see, I can understand why Nebraska. Because if you look at it, first of all, the game really shouldn't have been this close.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because if you think about it, Nebraska shot 56% from the floor, 47% from the three. Yeah, they made 70% of their free throws. They didn't get out, rebounded. They had more assists. They did have four more turnovers. Yeah, I, I, the game really shouldn't have been this close.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Nah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because the other team shot 41% from the floor, 35% from the 3 and 58% from the free throw line. I'm trying to figure out how the game come down to a two point ball game, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

And brother nickel, man.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, Tanner got some game. He be getting to it.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, he nice.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That was. That was a great game. That was a great game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It was. It wasn't. It's. I mean, because these are not matchups that we would normally see. I think one of the things that. Look, we love March Madness because the unpredictability.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You never know what's going to happen.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But we also get matchups that we never see.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now we. So now we don't have to speculate because it's automatically assumed what this team is in this conference. If they play that team, this midwife, they're going to lose that team. They would win. You automatically assume that. But this is why you line it up. This is why you throw the ball up in there. This is why you kick the ball off, and this is why you send someone to the mound, because you don't know what's going to happen. Right. And it's one game. It's not a series. It's not the best three out of five. It's not the best four out of seven. It's not the best two out of three. It's one game. In a one game, it's not who is the better team who plays the best on a given day, on a given night, that determines it. And we like to see this because I like to see. I like to think my team has a chance.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. And in one game, they do.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. This is why this. This is why people pay so much attention. Because, you know, even though a team may be a higher seed than you, them seeds really don't really matter, bro. Now, when they throw that ball up and we get in between them lines and we start competing, it's gonna be your will versus mine.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, I got Arizona. I got Arizona advancing. I got Arkansas.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Dancing I got Purdue advancing,

[Joe Johnson]

but wouldn't would them brackets look like now, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

It ain't looking good. It ain't looking good. Yeah. If Arkansas continue to win Joe, it's gonna be hard for us to catch Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey wait, who you, me and you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Both of y'.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Both of us?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh no, no. I don't know about that uncle.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He already substantially head and he got Arkansas because he think about it, Ocho. You got Arizona cutting down the nets. If Arkansas beats Arizona, you got no chance to win the national the title. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay. Hey, hey, Joe, listen. It ain't nothing personal. It's just business, okay? I'm going. I'm going for them Wildcats. Boy.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, man, look, hey, listen.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, listen. Hey, I love you like a little brother, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's how you act?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, no, I'm just saying this business ain't nothing personal. This ain't nothing personal what you did

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

to me on Monday and you come back on Saturday.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What you gonna. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey, listen. Hey, like. Like they say. Like they say, you never think about the past. You always worry about the future.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

If you dwell on the past, that mean you ain't doing nothing.

[Joe Johnson]

That means you treading water.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I got you.

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, you treading water. You got.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, look, I knew you was an OP from day one, though.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I knew you was out from day one. I ain't gonna even sit here and hold you and act like I'm surprised. See, I know. I already know you kind. I know how you move. I know how you operate.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

So it don't surprise me that you're going against the grain.

[Joe Johnson]

I, I, I. Yo, I'm not going against the Grain. I'm trying to win my goddamn bracket.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Number 11, Texas takes down number three, Gonzaga about to score. 74, 68. Texas with four guys with double figures. My ties, Pope, Swain and Cody all had double figures and points they overcame Graham. Ike. Ike, I guess. How you say? His name is Ikea. Ike. How he over? They overcame his 25 points. The difference, you know, bench points, played a role, but it was a good game. Texas played well. I didn't, I didn't, I didn't. I mean, Washington, Texas a little bit this year.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I was like, ain't no way they beating Gonzaga.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, I ain't think so neither. They're another SEC team or team that I've seen play a few times this year, especially against my Razorbacks. I didn't see this neither, guys, but they played well. This is why, like I keep saying, we in March. Neutral site. Yeah. No home court advantage.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Seeding don't matter.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, both teams took care of the ball. Texas had five, turnover, Gonzaga had seven. The rebounds were very close, 34, 29. And in Gonzaga's favor, assist was close, 21 to 20. Steals were five to four. Blocks was two to one. Offensive rebounds were nine to four, nine to five. Excuse me. So, I mean, you get a close ball game, so it was a type of game that we thought we would get, but I Didn't think Texas, you know, given up their health to scale to the up and down season. I didn't see. I didn't see. I didn't see Texas playing this well and winning this ball game.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I ain't either. But you look at that field goal percentage on 52. Texas shopping, that's. Hey, hey, Uncle Ocho. I don't care who you playing. You let him shoot 52% from the field, you're gonna lose a lot. You're gonna lose the majority of them games, brother.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's why I was surprised by the other team. They shot. Well, what you call them. We see why they won. They shot 56 for the four, 47% for the three. And I was like, how. How was the game even that close for it to come down to a he that could have also lost you the ball game? Who does Texas play next?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

They play?

[Shannon Sharpe]

The win of Miami Purdue should be a good ball game. Miami, Purdue, Miami, Purdue should be a very, very, very good ball game. Texas has 11 NCAA tournament wins of the double digit C, the most of any program since the seating began in 1979. Okay, 1979. Everybody knows that's the Bird magic that was in. I think they ended up playing in Salt Lake City. That's what really put it on the map. The NCAA Championship madness on the map. Prior to then, ain't nobody care. Yeah, but you know what you got? That was a couple of years after Roots came out, and you had everybody pull for this guy and everybody pulling for that guy.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hold on. A couple years after what?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Roots.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Roots came out.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, boy, oh, boy. You bringing back some good memories, boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, Ruth, it didn't bring about some good. They had a lot of fights in high school after these people, so.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, I know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I knew that. They like, hey, I don't know why y' all put that on. Y' all causing problems in our neighborhood.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, hold on. We had to watch it in class. You watch yours in class?

[Shannon Sharpe]

We watched it at home. Game. We ain't watching. Boy. Boy, they had to cancel school. Boy, there was so many fights going on.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We had to watch. We had to watch.

[Commercial Announcer]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You talking about watching the class. The last thing, they didn't want you to watch it at home.

[Joe Johnson]

It was history class, too, for me. Huh. And then obviously we had to watch it. It was not series. What do you call them? Multiple.

[Shannon Sharpe]

There was a mini series.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay. Miniseries. So we had to write. We had to write a paper on it. And. Man, listen,

[Shannon Sharpe]

Dude, blast TCU about a score of 81 to 58 is the tale of two halves for Cameron Boozer. Yeah, in the first two minutes. In the first two points, he was 01 on field of the first half. Two points on 01 field goal. And plus the minus. Plus minus or minus five and 15 minutes in the second half, he was 17 points on seven or nine, shooting plus 20 in 19 minutes. Joe, he got it going in the second half and you can see they had it going. They didn't need him to do a whole lot. But I mean, they shot 55 from the floor. They shot 87% from the two point, the free throw line. Excuse me, 20 of 23 from the free throw line. Because they're so big, man.

[Joe Johnson]

They're tall, huge, bruh.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, hey, they get offensive rebounds, they get put back, you ain't got no choice but to foul them. Yeah, and the Horn Frogs were overmatched. And, man, Booze is something. Hey, he's something.

[Joe Johnson]

He started off slow, Uncle Joe.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

But boy, he made Cam Boozer made that thing look so easy in that second half.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, yeah, I, I think problem is,

[Shannon Sharpe]

is that when you, when, when he's struggling, you got to put some separation between you.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You can't be down, right? And he's struggling like he's struggling. He's giving you 22 and 10 on the season. You got him to two points. You better, hey, you better be. You better. You need to be in front of them by about 6 to 10 points.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, I agree. I agree. What, What I noticed was glaring for me is that, you know, he, he averaging what, 20. What are you averaging? 22. 22 again?

[Shannon Sharpe]

22 and 10.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Even though he only had two points in that first half, Uncle Ocho, it wasn't like he was like 1 for 8, 1 for 9. You know what I mean? He, he finished 7 for 10 from the field, so he was patient. And in the second half, he turned it up. Man, that's, that's, that's, that's poise from a young guy, young freshman who I think is going to have a tremendous pro career. I mean, he's, he a monster down there, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he, you know, he got the body type. Hell, he already built like his dad.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he already built like Booze.

[Joe Johnson]

And you think he, he better, he better than Pops at this stage?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Coming out right now? Yes.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right now. Yes. Now will he be a better pro? I don't know. Bruce was an all star. Yeah. Turned himself as a second round Pick end up getting a big time deal from Utah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know what he'll be. Will he be better than his dad? But if you were to project him right now, if you look at them right now and where they. He definitely better than his dad as a freshman?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hell yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That didn't come out. But as a freshman? Yes. Is he a better college player than that? Yes. Will he be a better pro than his dad? That remains to be seen.

[Joe Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But this kid can flat out there play.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, he can play. It ain't. It's nothing flashy about his game. Like ain't nothing gonna jump off the screen. Yeah, kinda on like on some Tim Duncan type stuff. You know what I mean? Like he just get it done, bro. It may not look as pretty to some, but it's effective. It's effective.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Yes. And, but Duke, I mean you get Malik Brown gave you 12, you got. Sar gave you 14 and Evans gave you 17. Even Kaden Boozle who had an outstanding game the first round, he gave you nine.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah,

[Shannon Sharpe]

they got 10 points. I mean they, they, they shoot. It don't really depend on their bench. It's those starters that you have to worry about. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Everybody was in double figures except one person.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And so that's what, that's what you have to worry about with Duke. They come at you that look at TC to convince those guys to play together because look, all these guys are four and five stars.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All these guys were the guy at, at their prospective schools.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now for the greater good, we need you to sacrifice.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's a lot easier said than done.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because everybody thinks they got an opportunity to be a damn lottery pick. A top five pick.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hello.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I can't be no top five. I can't be no top 5 pick. You know, be, you know, I. Let me get. I need to get me like 15 and 10. 15 and 8. 20 and 8. And you talking about share the ball. Hey, nah, nah. And you know, some of these guys, Joe probably averaged 25 and 15, 30 and 8.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

What you talking about in high school?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

But that's the difference. That's the difference. See, in high school you can be the best. Cause you might be playing with less talent. You know what I mean? Once you get to college, Power five, bro. Everybody on the team talented.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You know what I mean? The cream gonna rise to the top. But for the most part, I just feel like when you get to college, you can kind of see the separating factor of a Lot of guys, you know what I mean? Guys who really got that it factor. Yeah. They start to show it, and it shows up in. In close, tight games, bro, and you get a cut.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You gotta. You gotta. You go to Duke, you was. You was a guy in college. You hear me? Yeah, they just. I mean, just like, anytime you go to the big time, you go to Ohio State, you go to Alabama, you go to Georgia, you can play in high school. You're a damn good high school player. Yeah, they ain't just giving no. No arbitrary. Look, they might have a one or two guys that they did a favor to for this big booster. Somebody got a legacy scholarship or something like that. Right. But for the most part, they top 80 guys.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They legit.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, you. Obviously, you don't have that many guys in basketball. These guys can play.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ain't no. Ain't no one star. Walk on. He come out there on senior night and his dad said, I'm proud of your son. You stuck it out for four years. Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, dude.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey. You don't get that no more. And look. Hey, you think you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You think you.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You think you gonna come in here and it's gonna be smooth selling them dudes put in work? Uncle Ocho, we did a training camp when I played for the Brooklyn Nets. We did a training camp in Duke. And, man, they got a NBA facility, bro. This ain't no. This ain't no. No peewee stuff. You hear me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Look, the guy. You go. You go to those programs. You know why you go there?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I can get a great education in a year. In a year.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm trying to get to the.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ain't trying to be. You not gonna stay there long enough to graduate. Now, you might eventually go back and take online classes and get your degree, but you ain't getting no damn degree in no one year.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Right? Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You look at all them guys. They one and done. Kyrie, one and done. Cooper Flag, one and done. Zion, one and done. Ingram, one and done. Tatum, one and done.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, one and done.

[Joe Johnson]

I got one for you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It ain't like it used to be with Crystal Laitner. They stay in four years. Grant Hill, Thomas Hill, all those guys. It ain't like that no more.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, it was different.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That guy's gone. I'm coming to Duke. You know why I'm coming? Because I remember. Hey, I remember the coaches talking about, I. They mess up your program. I ain't. I ain't. I ain't recruiting no one and done. Okay. Right. John said I take them all. Coach Cal said I take them.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

All right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Can't beat him. Join them.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, son, you wanna be one of them? Come on.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Right. Hey, you gotta be the gateway to the league. You gotta fall in line, you know, you gotta keep up with the Joneses. These young dudes ain't trying to be in school no more than one year, whether they tell you that or not.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. You got to be special, though.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now, I just left, folks. I just left school for four. I just left school for 12 years. I was in school. How long you think I wanna do this another.

[Joe Johnson]

Absolutely not.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man, I'm trying to get this thing. I'm trying to be. Hey, I'm going to class until after. Until after the new year. When the new year hit, I'm done.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Uncle Joe.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

What's up?

[Joe Johnson]

But who the best to come out of Duke? But who the best new devil to come out of there, play at the next level?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You talk about just as a college player.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Chris Leitner, Chris Leighton. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn, y' all answered that fast?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. As a college player. Now you talk about who transitioned and became a pro. That remains to be seen. Probably Grant Hill had the highest ceiling, Right? But he got hurt. Cause Grant could do it all. He was LeBron before LeBron. A guy that's 6 foot 8, could handle the ball, could play.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Could initiate the offense with an outstanding defensive player, could score the basketball. He was going to be sensational. Obviously, injuries robbed him of that. Yeah, but as a college player, it ain't even close.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nobody do close to Christian Laker.

[Joe Johnson]

I got a question. I got a question. Obviously, we know what Kyrie can do in the NBA. I didn't watch college. I didn't watch college basketball back then. So how far was Kyrie from what he is in the NBA? As opposing we was at Duke, was he far off or. You could already tell.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got to realize Kyrie got hurt. Kyrie only played, like, maybe 15 games.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, that's it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he got hurt.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

He got hurt. He hurt his foot, Ocho. He got hurt and still win number one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. That's how special he was.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah. Okay, okay, okay, okay.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, yeah, but he. But when he played now he played in the second half of the season, Ocho. Now he's out there getting. Getting money. He wasn't out there bull driving now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah. Man, y' all need to stop. As a college player. What? Nobody close to Christian Lake. Wait, who they say college player. You can make a case that Christian Layton is a top five college player of all time. Yeah. Back to back national championship. They took down the mythical team in a unlv. Yeah. I don't know if y' all remember that Saturday when they went up when they played lsu. Do y' all remember what they did to the Fab Five? Man, y' all better get that man his credit. I'm not saying what he transitioned into. I'm talking about as a purely college player.

[Joe Johnson]

The chat said.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, they talking about Grand Hill. Grant Hill was the second option to trace the Laitner. Bobby Hurley was the second option. Thomas Hill was a second option. Although Crystal Laettner and the shot that he hit against Kentucky.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh yeah, I remember that. I remember that.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I know he real. He was real. He was real. He was real.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, Christian Laker was really good. I couldn't stand Duke. That joker there.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Nobody could stand.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Dude. Hey, hey, but you know, man, that dude there now if you talk about like transition, like the ability. He wasn't fast, he couldn't jump. But that joker just did everything right, man. That joker back door you up and under. Get your and one. Yeah, you're big in foul trouble like damn.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Somebody beat them.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, A Ocho.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And that's what happened when UNLV beat them. Beat the brakes off him in the national championship. And then the next year they come back and I bet damn if they didn't beat. They didn't beat. They didn't beat UNLV in the national championship because we knew that was going to be the next. That was the national championship right there. Yeah. And then he followed up again and got it back to back. Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah. My.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When the last time you saw NCAA team go back to back. Hell, Duke might have been the last team to come back. Florida, Florida, Florida.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Al Horford.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Florida, Florida. Florida what, 0607.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah. Yeah. That's hard to go back to back.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Had Joachim, Noah, Corey Brewer.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, they had a nice, they had a nice squad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, it a man. It's hard to go. It's hard to go back to back in college.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Especially it ain't like it used to be where guys actually stayed all four years, right. Them guys gone. I won a national championship and I'm

[Joe Johnson]

the guy I holler.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean for fl. For, for, for. For Al Horford and Keem and Brewer. For them to come back and try to do it again. Yeah, boy, they hey, they really love the college life guys.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You hear me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Most of them guys, they gone cuz

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

they wasn't even getting nil Back then they.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hell no.

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, for what we know, man,

[Shannon Sharpe]

I. Yukon went back to back, right? Did Yukon go back to back?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Did they?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. So Yukon went Back to back 23, 24. Florida went back to back what, 06 07. And then did anybody go back to back in the 90s other than Duke?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

No. My Razorbacks, they went to the championship game back to back. But we lost to UCLA in 95.

[Shannon Sharpe]

95. Yeah. That's when they had the Obama boy.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yep, yep.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And ties Edney, right?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yep. Yeah, you know a little something something, don't you? That boy be locked in over there on it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, man. You know, y' all had Todd Day and Cortis Williamson. Y' all had a lot of little squad though.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, they had some hard working boys, boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, but hell, Coach Richardson, you had to have no choice but to be hard working.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Houston, number two Houston Cougars beat Texas A M 88 57. The Cougars freshman Chris Sinak Jr. Continued to play well, finished with 17.9 rebounds as they out rebounded the agates 46 to 29 and Big 12 defense. All defensive selection Emmanuel Sharp. Now my cousin put together a game high 18.9. He ain't got the E on his name. Cougar's Force Agatha. 11 turnovers and just 35% shooting. Hey, coach Samson got them boys playing now they. Hey, they play.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Did Texas A M leave a game at home?

[Shannon Sharpe]

What the.

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, hey, Joe. Hey, Texas A, they couldn't get nothing going.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn. They had nobody, no goddamn double figures. Except one person. They only got away.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, I'm gonna tell y' all something. Uncle, you right. Coach Sampson be having them boys rolling. They play defense.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Why do you see Texas A and m only with 57 points? Them boys. Hey, they don't play. They got some dogs. They got some dogs under that basket then. Nobody, I mean, they didn't. Nobody really just stand out. I know Sharp play well, but Flemings didn't really do a whole lot. That's their freshman phenom. But they got a win.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, they know who played well.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Who.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Masterpiece on mercy. He was stroking it.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, I seen cars. The best 22 minute 12 points.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, he could shoot it. Yeah, he said he can shoot it now. I mean, I. I mean people sending me videos of the kid when he's at. I think he's in at Notre Dame. Oh, yeah, High school. Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, I see he'd be out there working in LA with Chris Johnson.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he can play.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, Houston tough. Hey, they Gonna be. They gonna be there. At the end of the day, when you talking about being in the thicker. Houston gonna be there. They relentless, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, they relentless. They on the defensive end.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wasn't Coach Sampson. Didn't he coach at Oklahoma? He coached the. Griffin. Did he coach Blake Griffin in Oklahoma?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, he coached at Oklahoma. He coached at Oklahoma.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They ain't play no defense like this.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

No, sir. He get. Hey, hey. And he playing. He playing 11, 12 guy. I mean, he playing 13, 14 guys.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But the thing is, when you play. When you play that hard, you can't play them guys that many minutes. You got to have. You got to be deep, and you

[Joe Johnson]

got to have it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because you asking guys to pick up 94ft, Joe. Well, you're asking an awful lot. And I understand these guys are young. They 17, 18, 19 years old. And when you know, you 17, 18, 19, you could. You, you know, yeah, you could. You could run all day. But to play in. In the tournament, to play because it's such a quick turnaround, it's only a day rest in between.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah. When you get.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When you get to.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

When you get to them, you know, especially like the first round, second round, they play like two games around, right? Yeah, yeah, that's tough. But when you got a week off like this, you can regroup.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, you good?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah. We get back to the drawing board, man. Hey, you know, feel good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look, you know, go back there, feel a little good. Everybody pat you on the back, tell

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

how well you did. Yeah, don't relax, though. Don't relax. We gotta stay locked in.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We'll pig.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It was really good. Okay? I'm a Lockheed, Joe. I lock it on Monday. But right now, I get my home, you know, something crazy.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Listen, listen, listen, listen, listen. We take care of this tournament now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, in June, we all be at the draft now. Hey, hey, let's, let's, let's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let's stay locked in saying, hold on, hold on. Oh, Joe, you know what I'm saying? As soon as the tournament over, I'm leaving. But agent already got Bill got me. Got be a coach.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, I understand that, but you got like two, three more other guys on this team who can go with you now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you know, you was gone after the tournament. You was gone, Joe. You wouldn't be. You didn't stick around in Arkansas.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Well, Chinese man wasn't gone.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm out. I was gone.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, hey, I'm out of there. Listen, I did what I came to do, bro. I ain't gonna lie to y'. All, I came to school for basketball.

[Joe Johnson]

That's it.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hell, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, what's your major? Eligibility.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's my major.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Right, right. Well, I ain't gonna lie to you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I didn't get no academic scholarship. I Football.

[Joe Johnson]

That's it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So as long as I can stay eligible to play football, hey, I'll be

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

all right, I tell you. I'm trying to tell you. Hey, boy, you think y' all gonna load me up with all these 23, 24 hours a day?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Boy, please.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

No, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We go to quarter system, though. So it was just y' all on the semester. I don't know what it's like. We had quarters. So we had three quarters.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Three quarter. I'm saying. So you went. You went to class every day, though, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Every day.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Every day.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, that quarter system is six or

[Shannon Sharpe]

eight weeks, something like that, Ocho. Yeah, because we had fall, quarter, winter, quarter, spring.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And, you know, I don't know, maybe they do now, but hbc, when I was in Savannah State ain't play for no summer school.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

They have no money to send me to summer school. So I had hit them fields. I had to buy school clothes.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, you know, I know you're in developmental studies. You might want to come to summer school and you know, try to catch, try to, you know, get ahead. Yeah, right. I said who paying for that? I said who? You know like colleges, my brother, SC paid for them to go to summer school.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh yeah, my brother.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Once my brother went there, my brother never came back home. Yeah, yeah, he was gone. He was gone. Paid for.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We ain't got no money to pay for no summer school, bro. Class is probably like the classes wasn't that much on Your probably like 500, right? But if you take three class, that's $1500 and you got to get on the meal plan. That's another two. What, 17, 50. Where are we gonna get that money?

[Joe Johnson]

That's a lot of money back then, huh man?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, think about how many kids who put in that type of situation and couldn't get it done? Or just didn't have the means to, you know, to be able to even go to college, bro, but had the talent, man, please.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, hey, you better know somebody today. Hey, I don't know where you gonna get that from? Not no. 7. 750 in. In 1986. 87, 88.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know, Ash. How much is 1750 back then in today's money? Nineteen. 86. 87, 86, 87, 88.

[Joe Johnson]

But that's that. Hey, hey, Joe, that's big cash back then, boy.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Boy, what?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, like. Like to be able to have that to spend, you know, to pay for classes. You know what you got to be making?

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's $5,000 in today's money. So who got $5,000 in three months?

[Joe Johnson]

What?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, hell no. And you got to pay for books.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you know, when you on scholarship, Ocho. Yeah, you. Hey, Joe, you know, you could drop a class, man, I don't like this. F. This. I dropped this class telling you, hey, night classes, man. I mean, I think, man, I ain't been the whole. Y'. All. I ain't. I ain't coming back. I'm done. No, not too. I tried night class one time once. I don't know what it is. I've done took a nap. Oh, I done took a nap. I'm good. I said, man, I gotta get this nap in. I got me an hour and a half, two hour nap, right, man, as soon as that Joe start talking, you out.

[Joe Johnson]

You out of there.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I said, man, I went right over there to the d. To the deed office. I dropped that class.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, that's cause you disinterested. Well, when you be disinterested in something, hey, it's hard to lock it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah, man, look here. My daughter, she ain't on scholarship. She owns Challenge Scholarship.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

She dropping classes.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, I like Kayla. You get your money back?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hell, no. Oh, ain't no damn money back. You dropped no class.

[Joe Johnson]

That's tough.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What the hell? I said, you know what? You trying to be a professional student. I got something for you. I got something for you. You tried to stay here by seven, eight years because it's everything. Peachy. You got a nice apartment. She got her own apartment. Her brother got his own apartment. Yeah, you got. Both of you got vehicles. Meal plan paid for. Oh. Oh, no, no. You got to come up on out of here, baby. Come on up out of here. Hey, yeah, but were you on scholarship, Joe? Hey, man, this player hard as hell, man. This teacher tripping, man.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Right, right. Yeah, yeah. Hey, hey, I'm telling y', all, man. I had 23. They had me pound down 23 hours a day. When I was getting out of class, I literally had 30 to 45 minutes to get to the gym. Cause that practice about to get ready to start. Man, please. Ain't no way y' all think I'm gonna be in class all day and go straight to practice.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What time you start class, Joe?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

8 o'. Clock.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

8 o' clock in the morning.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I start class at 8 o'.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Clock.

[Shannon Sharpe]

8 to 9. 9 to 10, 10 to 11, 11 to 12. Go eat lunch. Practice start at 3 o'. Clock. I nap for 90 minutes. Cause we had to walk to practice. We couldn't drive to practice, so we had to walk to practice. Rain, sleep, doesn't matter. You walk to practice, get dressed, go practice, walk back. Just enough time. You have like 30 minutes to eat, eat dinner.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Go get your school, get. Get your homework done.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, hey. College is different, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, but all you got to do is just be disciplined in your time. Time management is very important in college because, you know, you got X amount of time for class, you got practice, you got, you know, homework, study.

[Joe Johnson]

Study hall.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's it. We have no study hall.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

No, no, we had study hall. We had.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wasn't going to no study hall. No. You.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You. Hey, you. Hey, hey. You had to go to study how? The University of Arkansas.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You don't care if you went in there and took you a nap and sat down and read a book.

[Joe Johnson]

As long as you in there, you

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

got to be in there bad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look here, that cost money because you have somebody to oversee study hall. Oh, yeah, they have that joke they have that's about mistake. I'm not saying what they might not have now. I'm just saying from 86 to 89. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. And the thing was on Friday because, you know, during the season, we travel on Friday.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you got to go by, get your home, get your homework, get your work. What you got to be doing that you. That you might have, that you got to meet. Boy, rough. I was like, lord have mercy, man, hey. I said, I got. I say, man, I got to. I got to get on. Get this thing here.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Man. I remember them days.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Work out.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I remember them days. Yeah. Hey, hey, boy, you got to work out. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I was a good student, though. I was a good student. I Just didn't apply myself in high school. School. Same, same. But no, no, no. We a have no film study. And that was the thing. Oo, I think. I think I watched maybe two films in college. Two piece of film in college.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Wow.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y' all watcho everybody play, man? Yeah, Everybody own defense. Everybody play, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Was no point in watching nothing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Then what I think we watched. I think we watched Georgia Southern my senior year, and we watched Central Florida my sophomore year. Not the only time we watched film.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

We watched.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That was it.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Ocho, you watched film in college?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, at Oregon State. Yeah, definitely. And then once I get. Once I got to the NFL, bro, I was a. I was a. I was a rat boy when it came to watching film.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't know how to watch film. What the hell I'm looking for what I'm supposed to be. I watch it like, what I'm looking for.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, okay. Yeah, you learned what to look for once you got to the next level, though, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Once. Once they told me what I'm looking for.

[Joe Johnson]

For.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you know, you, You. Because I was a tight end, okay, Now I gotta learn the front. You got an over front, you got an underfront. An over front. They got four down linemen. Yeah, under front, they got the down line and they got a linebacker on the ball, right? A three. Four. They got three down linemen, two linebackers. Four linebackers, actually. They got a mic. They got a will, a sam, a mic and a plug. So, okay, now you gotta underneath. Okay? He in a wide nine. He's in a cowboy, which is a slight nine.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay?

[Shannon Sharpe]

He's in the seven. He's in a five. He's in a shade. He's in a tilt. He's in a cop, man. Come on, man. Okay, Shannon, in this front right here, they like to play this coverage. Okay? Okay, so, okay, let's try to tie a coverage to a front. They don't play this coverage in the underfront. They only play this coverage to an overfront. So now I come down, I don't see a line back on the ball. It's an overfront, okay? They told me they don't play this coverage to an overfront. Yeah, they play this coverage to an underfront. So now I got a head start on the ocho. I said, okay, yeah, I feeling good, Ocho. I like going to the line. Like, yeah, y' all in the under. I know what y' all is. Y' all ain't gonna pay this coverage. I feeling good about myself, ojo.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Then all of a Sudden, they start off at an overfront, and then here come the linebacker, walk his ass up on the line to an over to an underfront. Oh, Lord. Damn. What coverage they like to run in this. This underfront. So, yeah, once I got the hang of it, yeah. I'm like, okay, I got it now. I got it.

[Joe Johnson]

I. I didn't get. I didn't get the hang of it until year two. Joe. Joe. You know, understanding what I'm watching.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And once I got. Once I got an understanding of what the defenses were doing and knowing what my assignments is and understanding where the danger is based on each play and based on each coverage.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yo, that's when the entertainment and the shit talking started, like towards the end of year two.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

That's when I started to feel a little bit more confident, because it don't matter what you do. I know exactly once that ball hike. I know where every. I call it. I call it my red area. My red areas where it's dangerous based on, you know, the route concepts that we run in. So I know once that ball snap, I know exactly where each and every person gotta be.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep.

[Joe Johnson]

So I can just go out there and play freely and I don't have to think.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

If I had to think. Nah, dang. Yeah. I ain't doing nothing.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, hey, in basketball, it's different. Hey, look, look, my rookie year, see, I. I wanted to play so bad, I had to know. I had to know all the commands, plays, and that was the hardest thing, because as a rookie. Yeah. So your opportunity's gonna come. Few in between, you know what I mean? You ain't gonna get many, but the ones you do get, you wanna make

[Shannon Sharpe]

them count, you gotta make it happen, man.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Y' all should see me. He been the drew two plays up in the huddle. I come out there and like, damn. What. What do you say?

[Shannon Sharpe]

We got Joe. That's me. Yo, that's me. O. Joe. Hey, that's me. Hey.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

They had to run past me ugly. Hey, come on, get over there in the corner. When you gonna go through? I'm like, oh, Ocho.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They put me in motion. They put me in motion. I go by the quarterback, I stop what I got again.

[Commercial Announcer]

Now,

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, hey,

[Joe Johnson]

hey. But that's. That's funny, boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Beta used to clap me this like, hey, Steve, I want to say, Sean, you know damn well you didn't know that play when you left the damn hurdle. Why you let that man go through that snap, that cadence? And then you talk about he back ready to snap the ball. You talk about what you got, you know, you didn't know what you had before you left the huddle.

[Joe Johnson]

That's funny, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man, that she was. Man, that thing was so embarrassing, man. Ocho, man, man. Dad, I swear, I did not. I said, man, just. I said, ain't no way this man like me. This man don't cuss me, don't call me. I said, lord have mercy.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I said, I know I'm not. This, though, why I can't remember these damn plays. They like, Shannon, we can't put you in there. Cause you don't, son. You don't know what to do. I mean, you athletic, you big, you fast, you strong, you willing. You a block. But, son, you don't know what to do.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I know that feeling.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Boy, I was. Man, I just called my brother, man. I'd be cry, Be crying. The phone. He said, bro, what's wrong? I can't.

[Commercial Announcer]

I just can't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I can't learn this ish. He said, you putting. I said, he said, man, you putting too much pressure. Shannon, you can learn. Yeah. He said, let me call me Chef. He's a chef. Just. Just relax. You putting too much pressure on yourself. You're okay.

[Danielle Fishel]

Just.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, you remember. Think about all the stuff. We was young. You memorize everything.

[Joe Johnson]

Everything.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Memorize that playbook. Memorize that playbook like you memorize all the others that.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Bull Job, I tell you, I tell you what my grandma used to tell me. How about you memorize whatever you got to do, especially when it come to school. The same way you memorize them goddamn raps.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hello.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep.

[Commercial Announcer]

Huh?

[Joe Johnson]

You know every goddamn lyric there. You know every, every lyric there, every goddamn song, but you don't know what the hell you supposed to be goddamn doing in school.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nope. You know, high school is bad. I just couldn't. Man, I ought you. I couldn't get. I said, lord have mercy. I said, I know. I'm not dumb. I said, I know I'm not done. Is it? I mean, I'll be playing. Hey, I'll be playing Jeopardy. I pretend I got the clicker. I'm stopping. I'm getting them right. Guessing the man told me to play. I can't remember the damn play. But, boy, once you get it, let me get the place. Yeah. The mistake that they made is that I had. I, I. I was able. Because what got me, though, is that Ocho, you know, they move you around. Yeah, okay, I'm a Z. But I also got to learn slot. And now I also got to Learn the X. Yeah. You see, you have to understand, Ocho. The tight end is X in Dan's offense. It's not Y.

[Joe Johnson]

Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

So now the Z receiver is a wing. The Y is the X receiver. Come on, man. This don't make no sense. Everybody know the Y is the tight end, right? The Z is the receiver to the tight end side. And the X is off the. Is on the ball, on the weak side. Why you do all this? Say, whatever, man. Y' all don't want me to play. That's what y' all do. Y' all change this. Cause y' all didn't want me to play. I'm coming up with every excuse, guys, why I can't learn this? Damn. He did the damn playbook.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

It's too many plays, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Tell you, Joe, what they install on Monday. Yeah. What you don't get, they gone to Tuesday. Yep. What you don't get on Tuesday, they go on the weekend, they go on Thursday, they go on the Friday, they go on the Saturday. And then they gonna come back and put some of Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday into Sunday.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, you. You don't. Don't fall behind now. Don't miss a day, boy. It's gonna be hell. But one thing about it, Joe, once you know what you're doing, once you comfortable with the offense, you know you been with it, you've been with a team for a year or two, or maybe three.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

You comfortable, and then you can play freely. You don't have to think. You just recall, boom, he called that play. You come out the huddle, and you already got a plan in your head on what you got to do based on what they put up, what they put out there in front of you. Yeah, man. It's one of the greatest.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Michigan State beat Louisville, 7769. Jeremy Fears cemented his place in Michigan State history as the Spartan march on to the Sweet 16 with a win over Louisville. With 16 assists, Spears became the first Big Ten player in the last 50 years with 27 dishes over two games in the NCAA tournament span, passing Magic Johnson 25 in the 1979 Sweet 16 and the Elite Eight. Fears, 16 assists, also the most by Big Ten player in an NCAA tournament game in the last 50 years.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Michigan State look good?

[Shannon Sharpe]

They did.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You know, Louisville is missing their freshman phenom. I forgot his name. He gonna be a. He probably gonna be a top 10, top 12 pick. Uncle Ocho. Yeah, he didn't. He didn't play. He hadn't played in the NCAA tournament. For whatever reason, I like Michigan State. Cause they play hard and they hang their head on defense, they gonna scrap.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's always Izzo staple.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

There you go. You know, Izzo, they take on the mantra of the coach, bro. They play hard. They scrappy. You know, they don't give up nothing easy. They got great guard play, which could take them a long way. But I don't know, offensively, they don't really have that, that, that, that. That scoring power that you need to kind of advance. I think they play great defense, but when you play against some. Some great guards.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Game gonna be a lot different.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, man, that car, he got some ups. Oh, he's looking to flush everything. Hey, he looking to. He looking to poke on everybody. Don't. Hey, okay, now, like, you gonna block somebody, you gonna be on his poster.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That man scratching his back with that basketball. You hear me? Yeah, he's scratching his back. Yeah, he nasty. He nasty. He nasty. He can get up. He can get up. Michigan State look good, though.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They look good.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

16 assists. That's. Hold on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's a lot of assists in college.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

There ain't no record or nothing?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I don't think so. What's the most. What's the NC record for assist in the game? Yeah,

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, you know, the, The NBA record is 30 by Scott. Scott Skyles, Orlando.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, you think somebody. Yeah, one game. Somebody gonna pass that one day, though.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, 19 in the tournament game. Joe, who had that?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Who had that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I had no idea. I don't know. Who have no earthly idea. Yeah, well, Rondo was close. Rondo had a couple of 24. I think Rondo had like a 26.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, you gonna. Hey, you gonna have to have some boys who can fill it up who playing with you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I know that.

[Joe Johnson]

They gotta be able.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They gotta be able to shoot, Joe. They probably take you out. What's that? They probably take you out. Cause you gonna have a big. You get once you get like 20 assists, you probably blowing somebody out, Joe.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, I know, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You probably blow somebody out.

[Joe Johnson]

Unless everybody. Shots falling though, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah,

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

yeah. Unless you come down and you got about 15, 16 in the first half.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Assist.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, I'm going for it. Then you got to get off to a great start, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, the thing, the difference in the ball game, I mean, Michigan, Louisville went to the free throw line four, six times, and Michigan State went to the free throw line 19 times. So you got a plus 10. You got a plus 10 just on. Just on foul shots.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah. Yeah. Louisville shorthanded. It's just. Yeah, tournament time, man. If you ain't full strength, them them weaknesses gonna get exposed real quick.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What Michigan beat St. Louis, the Billikens. The Wolverines had nine blocks, their most in the NCAA tournament game since blocks were first tracked in 1985. 86 and the Billikens were out. Rebounded 42 to 27. Lindenberg scored 25 points. What they call him to something. LeBron, what they call Lindenberg, they came to first Michigan player with 25 plus points and no turnovers in the NCAA tournament game since Glenn, man, Glenn, man, I don't even want to talk about Glenn Rice. Cause man, that joke got so God dog on hot. Joe Ocho enjoyed 1989. Yeah, because that's when they ended up firing their coach because he took a job and he wanted to stay on a coach. And Bo Schimbeckler, who's an athletic director, said, nah, we want a Michigan man to coach a Michigan team. So they gave it to the assistant coach. And man, that's when they had Glenn Rice and Terry Mills. I think Romel Robinson was on that team also.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

But boy, Robinson, he went off cooked every.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think he averaged like 30 in the tournament.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

They ain't winning.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did he?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did he? Yes. Yeah, they called him the Dominican LeBron. That's what they call Linden. Lindenberg, the Dominican LeBron. Michigan now has the first Big Ten team to record back to back NCAA tournament games with 90 plus points since winning the title in 1989.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, Michigan got some boys over there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Boy, look at what. Because I was. Because I was a Tar Heel fan, man. They cooked. They cooked the Tar Heels. That's when they had J R Reed.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, okay, okay. You see that boy out there?

[Joe Johnson]

Seven three, man, ain't a boy tall joke from Michigan.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, Michigan look good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They glare, right? I mean, he couldn't miss Joe and Ocho. It's like every time he shot the ball that ish went in, it was cash.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Now he can feel it.

[Joe Johnson]

Miami Heat, Glenn Rice, huh?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah. Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Charlotte Hornet. Glenn Rice. I think he ended up playing with the Lakers too.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, he won a championship with the Lakers.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, Glenn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Steve Fisher was the coach. He ended up. He was the coach for also with the Fab Five.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, Steve Fisher was. Yeah. What conference? What conference? St. Louis in

[Shannon Sharpe]

Glenn Rice average 30.3.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, he would, Joe, I'm telling you, he will cook it, man.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You know how hard that is to do in college, man? Average them type of points in college. Yeah, that's hard, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, You. You got. You got to be one of them special ones, though, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man, Even if you special, the average 30, Ocho, because they zone you, okay? Like the NBA, you get. You got a. Now they allow you to play zone a little bit in the NBA. He was 30 and 10.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, he was cooking. I'm telling. He would cook it. If anybody as old as I am, bro, Glenn Rice cooked. But I think, if I'm not mistaken, I think it took Ramil Robinson to put back. He ended up. They ended up. I think they beat Seaton hall for the championship. But, hey, Michigan.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Michigan.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Life was cooking, folks. Oh, there you go.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I'm waiting on that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They got chat GBT doing everything else. Selling houses and all kind of stuff, man.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm waiting on that hurricane game tomorrow.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Okay. Well, Ocho do got a lot of green up there, though.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. What you would get. Hey, Joe. I told you, Joe. I told you I'm coming. Y' all were making fun of me, talking about I'm picking mascots. I know what I'm doing. Now, I don't watch it much, but I know when it's time to win and compete, I'm gonna do my due diligence.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Me and you. Me and your next game gonna be a telltale boy. Cause Arkansas play Arizona when we put y' all out. You might well pack your bags, homeboy.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I told you, it's nothing personal, Joe, I'm. I'm not your op. I'm your brother. I'm not. Listen, I'm a brother from the cloth.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hold on, man. I got that man so far in my review mirror, man. Stop playing.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

For real.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Boy, if it weren't for me having BYU going so far, it ain't gonna be a landslide. For real.

[Joe Johnson]

You'll see. I ain't. You know what? I ain't gonna do too much tongue wrestling. You hear me?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

I ain't gonna do too much of that.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Okay. Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't do too much of that.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Okay. Okay,

[Joe Johnson]

we'll see.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Well, I was on that. I was on that treadmill today on that woodway, getting my cardio, right? I had.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I was on that. What you call them. I was on my bike today, too. I'm about to get me a. A ski erg.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I had them. I had them. I had them £10 in my hand while I was running, and I was there.

[Joe Johnson]

Are you throwing them things?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, just shoulders. Just getting. Getting them shoulders. Right, right, right.

[Joe Johnson]

Cause you know. You know. You know them shoulders to burn out real Quick now.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That's why I'm training. That's why I got my own little 247 going on, okay?

[Joe Johnson]

And you go. You're gonna need more than that.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

No, no, man, I'm good.

[Joe Johnson]

Listen, but you're gonna need about six, seven, eight months now.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, you remember. You remember Big boy and Mike Tyson? Punch out who that Big Bob Bull?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

yeah. I got something for you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I got something for you.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm ready for it. Joe, I'm telling you, whatever you throw, whatever you throw, I'm seeing. I'm gonna catch it. I'm gonna catch it for you, okay? Whatever you throw, I'm gonna catch it. I'm gonna catch it with my hand.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Okay? All right. I got you. I got you, brother.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm just telling you, man, you know, it's what I do, you know? Joe, you got to understand, I have a history and background in combat sports. Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

You feel me?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

All right.

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