Nightcap Hour 1: Duke COMPLETES COMEBACK vs St John’s + UCONN x Michigan State Comes DOWN to the WIRE + Michigan Looks DOMINANT + Tennessee HAMMERS Iowa State

Summary

Club Shay Shay: Nightcap Hour 1 – NCAA Tourney Madness (March 28, 2026)

Episode Overview

This episode of Club Shay Shay’s "Nightcap" dives into a thrilling night of NCAA March Madness basketball, with Shannon Sharpe (host), Chad Ochocinco (Johnson), Joe Johnson, and Liberty City Zone recapping and debating the biggest games and storylines. Main topics include Duke’s come-from-behind win over St. John’s, a nail-biting UConn vs. Michigan State showdown, Michigan’s dominant run, Tennessee’s statement win over Iowa State, and the broader themes of grit, basketball IQ, and generational pressure in sports.

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Key Game Recaps & Insights

Duke’s Resilient Comeback against St. John’s (06:01–15:40)

Key Points

• Duke advanced to its third straight Elite Eight, defeating St. John’s 80-75 in a hard-fought battle.
• Carlos Boozer Jr. was pivotal after halftime (13 pts, 9 rebs second half), overcoming a slow start and making his case as a top NBA draft pick.
• Isaiah Evans was credited as a game-changer for Duke, answering each St. John’s run with clutch threes and big plays.
• St. John’s, despite their size and experience, were out-rebounded by 13 and failed to capitalize on second-chance opportunities.

Notable Quotes

• “I knew this game was going to be good. Guys. I'm surprised with all the size, especially the big bodies that St. John and Ocho that they were able to out rebound them by 13.” – Chad Ochocinco (06:27)
• “Every time St. John's made a run... Evans would come down and get a three.” – Joe Johnson (12:36)
• “St. John's have juniors and seniors and they got grown men bodies and I thought they would do a better job of keeping them off the glass.” – Joe Johnson (09:50)

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UConn vs. Michigan State – Battle Down to the Wire (19:09–29:45)

Key Points

• UConn survived a major scare against Michigan State, with Tyrus Reed Jr. (20pts) and Alex Karaban (17pts) making crucial free throws.
• The game saw Michigan State erase a double-digit deficit, keeping things close with tough defense and grit.
• Concern over UConn’s lack of bench production (8 pts) and being out-rebounded by 9 – a potential weakness against Duke.
• Sharpe and crew discuss the importance of bench contributions and collective effort for title contenders.

Notable Quotes

• “Their bench only gave them seven, only gave them eight points. They're going to need those guys going to have.” – Joe Johnson (20:09)
• “The thing that concerns me about UConn is they got out rebounded by Nine and Michigan and Michigan State is not a big team.” – Joe Johnson (28:23)
• “Yukon got. Yukon's going to definitely have to play better than what they played today. And I expect him to.” – Joe Johnson (29:40)

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Michigan’s Dominant Win Over Alabama (44:44–54:26)

Key Points

• Michigan showcased efficient shooting (13/27 from three) and all-around excellence from Yaxel Lindenborg (23 pts, 12 rebs, near triple-double).
• Alabama’s star scorer LeBaron Phil Yard Jr. needed more help, especially with injuries depleting their roster.
• Historical context of Alabama and Michigan as “football schools” producing basketball talent.

Notable Quotes

• “The Wolverines had the most overall play on the floor, Yaxel Lindenborg who did it all tonight finishing just three shot, three assist shot for triple double. He had 23 points, 12 rebounds.” – Joe Johnson (44:44)
• “Michigan had too many guys. You think they got 33 points?” – Joe Johnson (46:28)
• “Alabama used to have basketball... They had Ori, Gerald Wallace, McDyess. They got some dogs.” – Group banter (51:39–53:12)

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Tennessee Overpowers Iowa State (68:30–70:08)

Key Points

• Tennessee, led by size and physical toughness, dominated Iowa State on the boards (out-rebounding by 21).
• The Vols featured a mix of young lottery talent and tenacious upperclassmen (“bruisers under the basket”).
• First time opportunity for the Vols to reach the Final Four in program history.

Notable Quotes

• “Tennessee beat Iowa State 76-62. The balls pulled away in the second half because of their superior size, physicality, toughness… Rick Barnes and DeVos are back to their third consecutive Elite Eight.” – Joe Johnson (68:30)
• “They got out. They out rebounded Iowa State by 21. You get out rebounded by that, you. I'm surprised the score wasn't more lopsided.” – Joe Johnson (69:34)
• “They got the upperclassmen doing the dirty work while the young guys, you know, doing all the scoring, you know what I mean?” – Chad Ochocinco (68:51)

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Key Themes & Broader Discussion

Freshman Stars vs. Veteran Depth (Throughout, esp. 08:46, 29:53)

• Debate on reliance on freshmen (Duke) versus juniors/seniors (St. John's, UConn, Tennessee).
• Belief that experience could propel UConn or Tennessee against youthful Duke.
• “Experience against that freshman talent that Duke has, I think it can help. I think it can help UConn.” – Chad Ochocinco (29:53)

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Basketball IQ & Mental Toughness (54:26–58:55)

• Emphasis on “high IQ” and ability to read the game as a huge separator at elite levels.
• Analogies to football – seeing the game, adjusting, having multiple plans (A/B/C).

Notable Quotes

• “Having a great IQ for the game, knowing how to pass, knowing how to play the right way. That'll get you a long way, bro.” – Chad Ochocinco (54:27)
• “The game is 90% mental, hello. It's only 10% physical, hello, middle.” – Liberty City Zone (57:26)

Legacy, Pressure & Growing Up in Athletic Families (33:11–40:34)

• Candid talk about the weight of expectations for sons of great athletes – comparisons, inherent pressure.
• Stories from the hosts’ own families and careers, and embracing or escaping the “shadow” of famous relatives.

Memorable Moments

• “If you play a sport that your dad play, you already know what the expectations are.” – Joe Johnson (33:00)
• “I can’t want something more for you than you want for yourself. All I ask, don't waste my time and money.” – Joe Johnson (38:46)

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In-Show Banter & Memorable Moments

• Running joke: “Smoking on that St. John’s pack tonight” after upsets (18:07).
• Lighthearted debate over brackets: picking by mascots, who’s ahead, and “whose bracket is busted” (70:11–71:49).
• Lively discussion about legendary Alabama and Michigan basketball alumni, and Ocho’s “mythical” squat numbers (43:00–45:15).

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Notable Upcoming Matchups / Look-Ahead

• Duke vs. UConn (Sunday) — touted as a “classic clash” between modern blue-bloods with deep championship pedigrees (“The standard is the standard” 16:15–17:01).
• Michigan vs. Tennessee — a test of size, experience, and physicality for a Final Four berth.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Duke vs. St. John’s Deep Dive: 06:01–15:40
• UConn vs. Michigan State: 19:09–29:45
• Legacy & Parenting in Sports: 33:11–40:34
• Michigan vs. Alabama Recap: 44:44–54:26
• Basketball IQ & Mentality: 54:26–58:55
• Tennessee vs. Iowa State/Bracket Banter: 68:30–71:49

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Conclusion

This episode offers a passionate, in-depth look at March Madness through the eyes of former elite athletes who value toughness, basketball IQ, and experience. The crew's storytelling brings both analysis and entertainment, with a mix of technical breakdowns, old-school wisdom, and locker-room humor.

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[Chad Ochocinco]

Joe, what's happening? What's happening?

[Joe Johnson]

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[Chad Ochocinco]

Just the grid and toughness that they play with. Okay. Ocho, I thought. I thought St. John's had some guys too, you know, that could tame boozle, which they did in that first half. And I just thought in the second half, you know, he just kind of put his head down and started making plays. And that's what. That's what great players do. That's why he will be a lottery pick in this upcoming draft.

[Joe Johnson]

He could be a top. I believe it'll be a. At least a top three pick. I don't know if he'll go number one. You know, you hear the speculation, debons, and you got Peterson, but he ain't getting past.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He ain't gonna get past three.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And. And he's been a winner his whole life, you know, from.

[Joe Johnson]

From.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Since I've even known about him in high school, through aau, all the way to Duke. He's a winner, bro. But I don't see them going too much farther because I feel like, you know, Evans had a great game. He made some tough shots, he made some big shots. But UNC and Ocho, it's like nobody else, everybody else was just kind of out there, you know what I mean? You know, and I thought St. John's got off to a great start, you know, that. That I thought I said, you know what? I like how St. John's play. Cause they pick up full court, you know, they wear you down. I said, if they can sustain this, they may be all right. Because at the end of the day, St. John's got big guys, that's juniors and seniors versus yes. Versus Duke, who are relying on a freshman. You know what I mean? So I thought they would come into play, too, but obviously Duke answered the bell. They got back in the game and was able to, you know, pretty much take. Take advantage of it. But all in all, man, I thought it was a great game. I thought St. John's could have done more, though. You know, they got guys who just, I don't know.

[Joe Johnson]

Edge of Ford had to be better. He was 6 or 17. He was big east player of the year, defensive guy, big body. Guys Hopkins, they got, like I said, I thought they would have guys that can match up at least. Look, Booze is going to get his points. He's a big, big kid, big strong body. He has an NBA body and he happens to be a freshman in college. You look at his dad and you see how his dad played the game of basketball. You look at his dad built, so you're not surprised that he has that type of a body. But I was just looking. And I agree with you, Joe. When you look at these guys, St. John's have juniors and seniors and they got grown men bodies and I thought they would do a better job of keeping them off the glass. And that's where they started getting hurt. Because when Duke missed shot, they would get the rebound and they would miss a shot again and they would get the rebound at some point in time. That's going to come back to bite you because I think one time the school what, 54, 45. And I was like, okay, St. John gets some separation, but you look back up and the next day you know, it's a three point ball game. Because Duke was relentless on the glass.

[Liberty City Zone]

I was going to say, say the same thing. Obviously, despite St. John size, the second chance points that Duke was able to get obviously did very well. Gordon boost in the first half. But unk it all comes down to

[Chad Ochocinco]

who wants it more.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah, you know, being able to, to will what it is you want to do. Whether it's, whether it's getting second chance points, whether it's crashing the boards and allowing your team another possession, you know, on the ball. I mean, Duke did that first half, obviously St. John played well, but second half, I mean it was Duke, it was Duke all day. Yeah, I think gonna get in trouble obviously be once you get down into elite eight offensively only having two players that were efficient from the field and, and, and Boozer and goddamn Evans, you gonna need more, you're gonna need more of your players to come in and contribute, you know, to those game. Because it's not going to be as easy as. As it was for you guys in the second half when you play better teams.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh yeah, I agree with you. Oo think about this. You know, E the, the reason why, you know, we have game changers, game managers and people who can control the game is because when you look at Boozer, you know, he started, hey, look, he wasn't getting it on the block. What he started doing, he Started bringing it up the court. He started playing point guard. He was at the top of the key. He was getting a pick and roll. Yeah, can't do that. You know what I mean? That's not his game. So this is what I'm saying, game changer. This just being a freshman, like we were just saying, he's going to be a, he gonna be a top three pick and if he can wield him, you know, continue to keep willing them to the next round. Duke got a chance, man. Cause these were some dogs, man. He ain't play against no, no, no backyard boys over there. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, yeah. Nah, he played against the dogs today.

[Joe Johnson]

Guys, I think the difference in the ball game was Isaiah Evans because every time St. John's made a run that would get a lead, Evans would come down and get a three. They would do something else that Evans would do, would make another spectacular play. He was a difference. Like, yeah, booze did what he did. Booze got that and one. And that was a phenomenal play. And his daddy, they pan and booze was going crazy, but it was Evans because they took, they took the lead back Joe by two. And here come, and here come Isaiah Evans come back.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Bang.

[Joe Johnson]

A deep three with a guy in his face. Yeah, that, that, that show, that shows me something there because I feel that they, if, if St. John's could have got to stop there maybe. Okay, now we go down and get another, get another basket. And now we got, you know. Okay, you needed three to ties, but he, he didn't waste any time. I mean, he came back and he pulled it, he let it go. Bang, right in his eye. Right in his eyes. And then it was back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. You get. And you like Kayla Foster, hit the, you know, hit the step back. It's just Duke, when Duke absolutely had to have it, the guys that they count on, they came through. And that's the mark of a good team when you absolutely gotta have something. Can your guys come through and make a play? When they needed a rebound, boom, they got it. When they needed a big shot, their guys hit it. St. John's didn't get that. And like you said, I'm looking at these big guys, I'm like, okay, yeah, these big. By a, these, these grown ass man out here. Duke, you know, Duke coming to, coming to play with 18, 19 year olds. St. John's come showing up with 21 year olds. There's a difference between the two. And I was just like, damn, I'm, I am shocked if somebody would have told me that Duke would out rebound St. John's by 13. Given what they have in size wise immaturity. I wouldn't have believed it, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I wouldn't.

[Joe Johnson]

There's not a chance in hell. But I wouldn't, I wouldn't either.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Cause coached by Rick Pitino, you know, his team's always gritty, tough. They, they, they pick up full court and they play pressure defense. Even when you remember Unk back in the days when he was coaching them Kentucky teams, you know, you, you, you weren't going in, in Kentucky arena. It's a RUP Arena. You weren't going in. No, none of that. Ain't getting no win. But back to the Evans kid for Duke. You know, he got a chance to be a lottery pick, you know, this year. So if I'm him, I want to continue this pace. I want to continue my trajectory as far as being a lottery pick in, in this year's NBA draft. So I think you'll get good money from him, you know, with Duke. But they gonna need more than just them two guys to continue. I mean, this is, I mean, 80 points ain't bad though, you know, in college, you know, when you think about it. But Arizona hung 100 and something on us, so I don't know.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, come on, man. Come on, man.

[Joe Johnson]

That'll be a good one. They got UConn next we're gonna talk about UConn here. That's another great team. Two teams that get after you to pick you up. The difference you see, Shire is kind of like more laid back. Dan Hurley is up.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

He remind that guy, that Bobby Knight, that, that, that is that guy. Yeah. Up and, and, and, and Coach Richardson in Arkansas. Shine's calm, A little bit more calm. He got, you know, he got a little, he got, he got his Yukon gear on. I mean, excuse me, his gear on. You know, he, he, them other guys. Dad heard it like he about to have angel about that. Like, bro, calm down. Damn. Hey, it's a timeout. Why you up yelling? It's a timeout. They coming to the bench.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They passionate.

[Joe Johnson]

They. But he, he's really intense. But that's going to be a great matchup. I mean, you talk about, you know, just a year, two years ago, UConn went back to back two blue bloods. Two teams that know what it's like to win championships, that has that pedigree. And you go there, you understand what's expected of you. The standard is the standard. The Standard was set 30 years before you arrived, before you were even born. The standard at UConn is the standard at UConn. The standard that Duke is the standard that Duke. And they were led. The programs were, you know, put on the map by hall of Fame coaches. Coach K. And then what's the guy at UConn? What's his coach? What's the coach name at Yukon? The old coach.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I know you're talking about.

[Joe Johnson]

I can't think of his name.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Some cow.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. Jim Calhoun. Yeah, Jim Calhoun. All the great players. We know all the great players that came through Duke. All the great players that came through UConn. And this is just. Hey, we just continue this pipeline, but it's gonna be. Oh, that's gonna be some kind of. That's gonna. What? They play Saturday, so that's gonna be.

[Liberty City Zone]

No, Sunday.

[Joe Johnson]

Sunday. Oh, that's gonna be something.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, man, that's good. That's gonna be getting good now. It's getting good. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yukon, go ahead.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, I was gonna say, we ain't just gonna just slide by St. John. Cause that's who you had winning. We smoking on that St. John's pack tonight.

[Joe Johnson]

You had said. Y' all going, too.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You. I'm saying my team went out yesterday. We talk about your team that you had picked.

[Liberty City Zone]

We gonna talk about both of y' all sitting there arguing. Guess who didn't have him winning. Guess who didn't have him winning.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, your mascot be out tomorrow.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You smoking on that St. John's pack tonight.

[Liberty City Zone]

I got this little St. John pack right here.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Look at Joe. You see how Joe do? See, Joe, I wasn't doing all that to you yesterday, man. Y'.

[Liberty City Zone]

All.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, look, y' all already had. Before we got online. It was already real ready for us.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Them folks working overtime over there.

[Joe Johnson]

I didn't have nothing to do with that, Joe. I don't run Dragon. I might be the CEO of a company, but I ain't in charge of that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes, you are.

[Joe Johnson]

If a shoe malfunction, you don't get mad. You don't get mad at a field night. You get mad at.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm just saying.

[Joe Johnson]

I got. Why you mad? Cause you just think the graphics team. You think Bailey, you think this one and that one. And now you talking about me. I got.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, look, I know who. I know who. I know the infrastructure now. I know who all working in the inside. I know who up there.

[Joe Johnson]

You know what I mean?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I seen the names on there today, so. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Bailey, yeah. Yeah. Ain't none of them.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You got them working overtime though.

[Joe Johnson]

How y' all come out with a

[Chad Ochocinco]

real already game just was over two minutes ago.

[Joe Johnson]

I mean they had plenty of time to work on it. They saw y' all die by 20 with 15 minutes ago. All right, you gave a political. You gave a plenty of time to work on it. Yukon beat Michigan State to hang on to beat Michigan state, Tyrus Reed Jr. Scored 20 points. Alex Caravan has 17. Both made pressure pack free throws in the final minutes to help Yukon hold off Michigan State. I, I thought this game was going to be a blowout early. Give Michigan credit. Credit Michigan State credit because they were down 15, 17 points early and they fought more than that, clawed their way back in, made it respectable a half. All you got to do is let's, let's, let's. Hey, let's go into the half. We can't be down. Let's not be down by more than five. If we could make it a ball can we got 20 minutes to do something. Give Michigan State credit but UConn 32 and 5 back to back national championship two years ago and it seems to be their only way. And hey, they're good team. They found ways but I think they're going to need, they're going to need, they're going to need more. Yes, they're going to need more. Their bench only gave them seven, only gave them eight points. They're going to need those guys going to have.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, you know, you know Michigan State like them low scoring games. Yeah, they ain't, they, they ain't trying to play up.

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[Chad Ochocinco]

the 80s and the 90s, they ain't what Michigan State do. You know, they don't even have them type of players. And I talk about game changers and game managers. I thought Michigan State, they play well as a team. So does UConn. Uncle Ocho. I think UConn just got, you know, they got some guys who can really take over and really be, you know, a game changer that continue to take you, you know, farther in the tournament. Not only that, you know, they tough, gritty, play aggressive. You know what I mean? Like, I know we playing. Everybody think basketball is just this finesse game and you don't get to, man, listen, you kind of out there playing, bro. They competing, they competing. They touching you.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, hey, uncle. You know what? I think the game they let.

[Joe Johnson]

I think they let them play a little bit more in college than what they do. They do. They do. I'm like, damn, I ain't going to lie.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I like, I like. Cuz even when you see the vertical. Vertical. I can't even say the word. The vertical challenge. When guys are straight up.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Verticality.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know, they don't call that. It don't matter how hard you run into a dude, as long as he don't come over.

[Joe Johnson]

Right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know what I mean? Yeah, I think, I think, I think you're right. I think they're a lot more aggressive in college than the pros. And the pros because you know, guys gonna be flaking and flopping. They. They trying to sell a call.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

In college you don't really get that. You know, you don't really get that in college.

[Joe Johnson]

Guys, they competing the guys don't stay long enough and built up that kind of credit. You don't get a Christian Laitner, you're not getting a. A Duncan, you're not getting Bobby Hurley and Grant Hills. Guys that have played and officials know them since their freshman, sophomore, junior. Here they are seniors playing. You don't get that anymore, Joe. So these guys here, they get good. Ain't no ifs and a. But hey, hey, I appreciate, I appreciate the hospitality. It was great being on campus for six months, but I'm out of here. So those days. So you're not going to get a player that if he's really good, he's one and done.

[Liberty City Zone]

Absolutely.

[Joe Johnson]

If he's halfway good, he's one and done. You're never going to get another Tim Duncan. You're never going to get another Kenyon Martin. Those days are over. Guys that stay four years are senior. Kenya Martin was the last senior to go number one overall. That was in 2000.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

That was. That was a quarter century ago. I don't believe you'll ever see it again because the guys are like, there's too much money at the next destination for me to stay. Exactly.

[Liberty City Zone]

And you know what I think it's gonna come down to?

[Chad Ochocinco]

What's that?

[Liberty City Zone]

I think obviously look at Duke, you look at Yukon, you look at what caravan and Reed Jr. Were able to do.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Liberty City Zone]

And dominating and controlling the game, being the ones who are going to score the points. You look at Duke, they had two players. I think it's going to come down to what other players are going to contribute. Not just on the bench. I'm talking about starting five. You got two people that are going to be able to will themselves and score points when you want to. Then you have three that are somewhat just decorational on the court. I don't mean that in a disrespectful way, but I'm just saying there's really no contribution on the point side. They contribute in other areas, but I think as far as point scoring, someone else is going to have to step up. And obviously the bench, I think the bench is going to be very important for Duke and UConn. And who's able to come off the bench and contribute in those times, in those pressure situations to kind of not ease the pain, but make the game a little easier to take some of the pressure off of the starters.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah. Well, Yukon, they. They really. They gonna take a collective team effort to really beat you Uncan Ocho. You know, they ain't really just gonna rely on one guy like this. Even though Reed, he had a. He had a hell of a game. But they got other guys who can. Who can step up and have big games as well. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

The thing that concerns me about UConn is they got out rebounded by Nine and Michigan and Michigan State is not a big team.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They tough though, Michigan, but.

[Joe Johnson]

So just. But just think about how Duke hit the glass with booze and the. The big kid, the other kid. That's going to be a lottery pick this if. If you let them get the glass like that. If you got out rebounding, you get that right about 15. Because Duke. One thing they do, they hit the glass. Boozer gonna get those rebounds. I mean, he. We talked about it. He's 22 and 10. That's where he was tonight. 22 and 10. And I like the fact of the matter is that he doesn't press. I love Boozer because he doesn't press. He's like, okay, I don't worry about it. I got a whole nother half. Ain't no sense of me taking these willy nilly shots. I ain't been to jack up threes. I ain't finished shooting no fall away jumpers. I'm gonna let it come. You watch him. He'll get easy baskets, he'll get a layup, he'll get a put back and next thing you know, he. He's in a rhythm. He's getting to the free throw line. He's in a rhythm. Yukon got. Yukon's going to definitely have to play better than what they played today. And I expect him to. I expect Dan Hurley is going to. Look, guys, hey, we gotta. We happy we won. Surviving advance. We won the ball game. But in order for us to go to the final four, we're going to have to beat the number one overall seed, a team that by many thought would. Was picked to win it at the beginning of the season. And we're gonna have to play one of our best games of the year in order to.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I agree. But. But remember what we was talking about, the experience. They ain't got nothing but juniors and seniors. Okay, Ocho?

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know, they. They got some guys with experience. So that experience against that freshman talent that Duke has, I think it can help. I think it can help UConn in. In, you know, in a different way. Like it can help. I think it can help them propel and win the game is what I'm saying. I can see them being dude, but I can too.

[Joe Johnson]

But what concerns me Is that for those guys to be pressured and to be in that situation, I thought they handled the pressure well. I thought Duke guards handled the pressure well. Because we know Michigan, we know ISO teams like to pressure you, like to get up and tell you. And I thought they did a great job of handling that. So they weren't of the moment. They weren't like, damn, I just left high school seven months ago. What the hell I'm doing out here? There's like, hey, yeah, we do. And I think it has a lot to do with the expectations you go to. Do you know what expectations are? You know, the. You know, you. And you see guys. I mean, I don't know how many of these guys were there in the summer. And you see the guys come back, you see Zion, and you see all these other guys come back and RJ Barrett and. And Tatum and this one and that one, and Ingram and this one. And they come back and, hey, don't you mess up. Dawkins and Amaker and Danny Fair, they started this. And Layton and Chris here and Christian Laitner and all these guys, they continue this and so forth and so on. So don't y' all mess this up. We got a great story.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I agree. I agree.

[Liberty City Zone]

It's gonna be a good one. Who you got? Who you got? Y' all brackets, all messed up. We got Joe Sunday, Duke, and you come.

[Joe Johnson]

I just can't pick Duke.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You say you can't pick Duke. Why you just gotta be against them abd.

[Joe Johnson]

Anybody but Duke.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah, I forgot. I forgot. Who you got, Joe? Who?

[Chad Ochocinco]

They play Duke. Play who again?

[Joe Johnson]

Yukon.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm talking about. Oh, they play Yukon. Yeah, I'm. I got. I think I'm gonna. I think I'm gonna go Yukon, bro. Yeah, I. I'm gonna go Yukon. Because the experience that they have, and I just feel like. Yeah, I know. Boo's gonna give you 20 and 10. I don't know if Evan's gonna continue to play at that level he played at today.

[Joe Johnson]

He shot the lights out.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. I mean, hey, hey.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't know. I don't know if he'll have another auto body experience like that Joe and Ocho, but he shot the lights out of the ball today.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I know. And I say he doesn't play if

[Joe Johnson]

he doesn't have this game. They're not advancing, Ocho. They're not advancing. If he doesn't play like he played today, they're not advancing.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's why I said that. And that's why if I'm him, if I'm the Evans kid. I'm thinking to myself, man, listen, my draft stock can continue to rise if I just continue to keep playing, you know, great basketball. He gonna have to. He gonna have to give him 20. He gonna have to give him 20 plus a game, too. Now, I know we putting a lot on booze, but. But Evans, you know, he done been there. He been playing on this big stage. Booze been playing on this big stage since he school aau.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They're to it.

[Joe Johnson]

You know, when your dad is who you. You know, first of all, if you play a sport that your dad play, you already know what the expectations are.

[Liberty City Zone]

You got to deal with the comparisons that. That as well.

[Joe Johnson]

You. You got. You know what?

[Chad Ochocinco]

It's messed up. It's messed up, too, because I don't know about y', all, but me as a father, it's like, you know, with my son playing basketball, you know what I mean? It's like, I can't really. It's hard for me to really get on him like, I really want to, because they, like, man, he ain't you. He ain't. I'm like, bro, I'm giving you the game. I'm telling you how to beat these suckers out here, man. I'm saying, I got the blueprint.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, Joe, it's easier for somebody else to coach yourself.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I already know it.

[Joe Johnson]

I was trying to. Hey, I was like, you know what? Hey, listen to them. I mean, forget the fact that, hey, I was on super bowl winning teams. I was a Pro Bowler. I was all Pro catching the football. But you know what?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Listen to the guy.

[Joe Johnson]

That. That play didn't go farther.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's all I'm saying, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

You're right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's all I'm saying.

[Liberty City Zone]

You're right. You right.

[Joe Johnson]

So. But, you know, as a father, if you were a professional athlete and your son plays the sport that you played, see, if he plays a different sport, they're like, okay, his dad was a basketball player. Yeah, football player. Or his dad was a football player, he a basketball player. Oh, he a baseball player. But when you play that same sport, the expectations, whether it's fair or unfair, people automatically. But, bro, that's the genes. I mean, that.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah, always.

[Joe Johnson]

And it is. And it is what it is. And, you know, talking to. Talking to Griffey Jr. And Griffey Jr. Like, it was just hard to watch his son play, he said, because he would go there and be sitting in the stands and. And people say he ain't nothing like you and Griffith and juniors and Griffith say, well, tell me five people. And so it's the same thing. Griffin said, like, when his dad would come see him play, he couldn't do nothing. He said his dad would have to sneak up in the RV and just watch from a distance. He wouldn't know his dad was there, he said. But when his mom come, his dad would call. His mom said, what that boy do? Oh, he. I. I think he was like three for four, two homes. Yeah. Why the hell did he do that when I was there? But it's. It's just like. I mean, just imagine you're Peyton Manning. His daddy was Archie, number two pick in the draft. You know, the expectations are. Ocho, yo, my kid. Your kid. My, My son just said, I. I don't want it. I don't want to do that. My dad played. I got my uncle. I don't want no parts of that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Why I think it's so hard to duplicate, though. Like, that's why I respect.

[Liberty City Zone]

I don't know. Hey, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Joe, you didn't have. You didn't have. Just imagine if your dad played in the NBA. So you got. You got to smooth right along. Like, damn, man, Joe really good. There was no comparison. Automatically I had to get compared to my. My brother, three years older than me. He's a senior. I'm a freshman. So the comparisons are there. I'm like, well, damn, he my brother, not my dad. I know we got. I know we got. We got the same last name, the same parents, but damn, but I embrace that. It's hard to live up to that. Expect those, yeah, that. That others put on you. You might not even like, hey, I'm just going along. I'm just like, hey, I. I don't know.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, you know, Joe, Joe. And that's how I think it was with my. My son. Obviously, my son. Hey, Joe played Arizona State. He played receiver out there at Arizona State, Played Adventist High School.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Liberty City Zone]

And obviously it was the Arizona State with Jaden Dan before Jaden transferred over to the goddamn lsu.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Really?

[Liberty City Zone]

I didn't, I didn't understand the, the, the, the pressures and the comparisons, you know, to it. But I think my son got to a point where I think he was somewhat fed up with it. I think he, in a sense, he kind of played football because I did it. I don't think it was really his first love. It wasn't really his first love. That's not what he did.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right, right, right, right.

[Liberty City Zone]

I think he did just because I did it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Liberty City Zone]

I think probably the comparisons to him, I don't know if it got to him a little bit, but I don't think he loved the game the way I did. You know, maybe his aspirations, his dreams, maybe it wasn't to play in the NFL.

[Joe Johnson]

You know, he had a belly full. He had a nice air conditioning home.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You're right.

[Ryan Seacrest]

You.

[Joe Johnson]

He didn't have the same stimuli that you had.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, that's a whole, that's a whole different ball. And that's what I tell people. My son's stimuli. My son got to come in and hit the garage on the three car garage on the 10,000. Yes. Shannon didn't have no garage. Shannon had cinder block floors. I mean, a cinder block home with cement floors.

[Liberty City Zone]

It's different. It's different. You got to really want it. You got to really want it. Got to be something that you really love to do, you know, And I, I don't think he really, really love the game like that. And, and I'm, I'm one. And Joe, you know, I don't, I don't push my kids to do nothing.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, me neither, bro.

[Liberty City Zone]

I support you. But if it's not what you want to do, whatever endeavors you, endeavors, it is that you, you, that, that, that attract you and interest you. I'm all for it. I'm, I'm behind whatever it is.

[Joe Johnson]

Now.

[Liberty City Zone]

My youngest son, Savvy. Hey, he. He different mentally. He different.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, he's a dog.

[Liberty City Zone]

And he actually wants. It ain't got nothing to do with me. And he don't care nothing about no comparisons because he talking trash to me already as a sophomore in high school. Somebody. I'm better than you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He'll receive a ocho.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah, man. Dad, I'm better than. What you mean you better than me? Well, you better check. You better check YouTube.

[Joe Johnson]

Who you talking to?

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah, he's a different kind of animal. So I could see him already, you know, playing on Sunday. And just because his mentality, you know, yeah, he wanted, he wanted.

[Joe Johnson]

It's really simple. Oh, y'. All the same way I tell them, I can't want something more for you than you want to put yourself. I'm not going to push you in any direction. But all I ask, don't waste my time and money.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, I'm telling you, if you want

[Joe Johnson]

to do this, if you need a coach, if you need whatever you need, I will get you whatever you need to help you be the absolute best you can be in what you want to do. But don't waste my time and Money. If that's not what you want to do, don't do it because your mom wanted to do. Don't do it because your friends do it. Do it because you want to do it. And if you want to do it, I'm gonna move heaven and earth to try to make sure you get the best so you can.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I agree. I agree.

[Joe Johnson]

That's it. That's that. That's. That's all I ask. Don't waste my time and don't waste my money. If you want to be. You want to be an astronaut, Hell if I gotta call Neil Tyson. The grind. Hey, bro, check this out. My son's. Hey, I need to get some advice. I don't. Hey, I'm just saying, Joe. I would do. I'm gonna do whatever I can, but if that's not what you want to do, it's. It's. It's. It's hard growing up in the shadows because there's a separation between you and your. Your. Your kids. But just think, me and my brother every. Everything. Bro, you ain't good. Your brother, boy. Your mother. Oh, man. Your brother been gone. Oh, your brother did that. Your brother did, man, your brother ran 10, five. Man, you ain't running. But damn, that's still pretty fast, so. But it ain't never bothered me. See, I didn't. I didn't live in my brother's shadow. I embraced it. So when they told me, oh, you ain't as good as your brother, I'm

[Chad Ochocinco]

gonna show you, right?

[Joe Johnson]

I'm gonna show you. Now, as a high schooler, I could have been better had I applied myself. I was just so much more talented than everybody else on show. I ain't do no work in high school. Lifted weights. For what?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, me neither.

[Joe Johnson]

I lift them tobacco racks. I lift them bales of hay. I lifted watermelons and bushels of corn and onions. That's what I lifted to get this body. Once I got to college and I started lifting weights and I saw my body change.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, my. Oh, Joe. I went from like 180 to 205. So when we stopped playing football in. In November, and by the time we had spring practice, I was 205. Chiseled. What?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, man.

[Joe Johnson]

My brother came. When my brother came and saw me, he said, man, what you been doing? What they feed you in Savannah State? I say they don't feed us in Savannah State like they feed y' all in South Carolina, that's for damn sure. Then he came back my junior year. Now I'm like 220.

[Liberty City Zone]

God, anywhere from 205 out of 220.

[Joe Johnson]

You know, he told me, he told me my junior year, he said, you don't live because I want to be. I say, I want to be a member of the 46 club. He say, 46. What? I said, no, I want to bench 400 pounds to squat 600. He said, you gonna lift yourself into a three point stance? I be a damn. Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay. He told me by junior high, in college, he said, you will lift yourself into a three point stand.

[Liberty City Zone]

That's crazy. You was part of the four six club.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

No, I didn't, I didn't squat for I, I, I was, I could.

[Liberty City Zone]

Ben.

[Joe Johnson]

400. I could never squat six.

[Liberty City Zone]

Okay, okay. I was part of the three six club then when I was at, when in Cincinnati. Now. When I was in Cincinnati, I was still, I was, I was thin framed, Joe. I mean, the big, the biggest I got in Cincinnati, probably about, about 190. Yeah, I could bench 315. I would work out with the linebacker sometime, and I work out with the officer lineman. When it came to doing the lower body work on, I think what Fridays we did lower body. Yeah, Fridays, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

No, I cut leg. You cut. You're supposed to cut legs off on Thursday. You don't do no legs after that. You don't want your legs heavy. Your legs wouldn't be heavy.

[Liberty City Zone]

You, you did last, if I'm not mistaken. I can't remember the schedule exactly, but I used to work out with the lineman, so, you know, I squat by 650 to 670, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, Joe.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

No.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, he lying.

[Joe Johnson]

If, if, if at 190 he squatting 670, 700, he. Is he one of the strongest men ever to le.

[Liberty City Zone]

One of the strongest men. I might be one of the strongest men that ever played in the NFL. Nobody sees it.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't know about all that.

[Liberty City Zone]

Frame is so small, so you never know, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Listen. Yeah, I do, though. I look at the legs. First of all, your hips ain't wide enough to hold that kind of weight. You look at guys that squat a lot of weight.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, hold on. I got hips like a fat person. What you talking about, man?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Come on.

[Liberty City Zone]

I ain't gonna show it to you right now because that's inappropriate.

[Joe Johnson]

But yeah, hey, I might give you, I might give you. I might give you 450 with a squats. I might give you. I might give you 450, 475 with a single ply or Double ply suit, but just, just, just with just a belt.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah. Hey, matter of fact, I mean, maybe,

[Joe Johnson]

maybe with a single plastic.

[Liberty City Zone]

I'm glad you said that, Joe. As I post my videos, you know, doing 120, 150s on the dumbbells, right?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Liberty City Zone]

When I get back to Miami on Sunday, I'm gonna make sure. Monday gym session, I'm gonna do legs, which is normally an upper body day. I'm make sure I put 475 or 500 on the rack and do one rep. So when we get on the show.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, you gonna do one squat or you.

[Joe Johnson]

I do, I do. I do two.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I do two. Okay, all right, all right.

[Liberty City Zone]

I do two reps.

[Joe Johnson]

He ain't fit to do no. He ain't fit to do no barbell squat. Not with no.

[Liberty City Zone]

I'm regular squat.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oo. Don't catch no hernia out there, man.

[Liberty City Zone]

I'm good, Joe. I don't care. I don't get.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, you gonna be walking around, you need like mine.

[Liberty City Zone]

I don't get hurt, Joe. I don't never get hurt, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Also, you boo. You booby. You booby Johnson on Friday night flight.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah, I don't know if that's it, Joe. I know. God been good to me, especially when it comes to injury, Joe. I ain't really had sustained nothing.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, don't get. No, don't. Don't be trying to squat, though. Hey, your squat, your heavy squatting days, go There, do 20, 25. Keep your fire back strong, keep your glutes. Because, hey, the more leg muscle you have to eat, the longer you. It's proven longer, you're gonna probably live. So take care of your leg, your bottom half, you're gonna be fine. You'll need squats.

[Liberty City Zone]

I was just trying to show you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Just don't speak. You can't.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, you good? Hey, get up under the machine. I think they got built squats. They got pendulum squats. They got other squat apparatuses that you don't need to put that barbell on your damn back. You do dumbbell squats.

[Liberty City Zone]

I'm just trying to show you that I can do it. That's all. That's all. You'll never believe me unless you. Unless you have visual evidence. That's all I'm saying.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, I ain't gonna believe you died. And y' all got fake weights. They got so many people on on IG not doing fake weights where I'm

[Liberty City Zone]

getting fake weights from, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Easy. Michigan beat Alabama. The Wolverines had the most overall play on the floor, Yaxel Lindenborg who did it all tonight finishing just three shot, three assist shot for triple double. He had 23 points, 12 rebounds. Michigan was the more efficient than Alabama for three point range connected on 13 to 27 attempts. Alabama, hey, Alabama held on as long as they could. Phil Yard Jr. LeBaron Field, y'. All.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's what I'm talking about. Game change. You need guys who can get to get, get to that chicken Ocho. Hey, who can get to that?

[Joe Johnson]

Who got a bag?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey man, we need if you a score. Yeah, perfect.

[Joe Johnson]

We need you to, we need you

[Chad Ochocinco]

to get some buckets. The rest of us, we can do the dirty work.

[Joe Johnson]

One more guy to come along with him. He needed one more guy because Michigan had too many guys. You think they got 33 points?

[Chad Ochocinco]

They missing 20.

[Joe Johnson]

So he needed what?

[Chad Ochocinco]

He needed another, you know, they missing 20 points a game, you know.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh yeah, yeah, I forgot he hurt. Hurt, hurt you.

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[Joe Johnson]

your guy tried to be free. Hello, Ross.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, but if they'd had him, they definitely. They probably would have really had a chance.

[Joe Johnson]

They definitely have a chance. Yeah, but I ain't know. I ain't know. Phil y was not that nice. You know you. You see clip you saw. I see highlights of him and stuff like that. N. He could, he could.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. I got a chance to watch Alabama play a few times because they in the SEC obviously playing against my Razorback. So they got some guys who can go who, who you know, and they got some, some tough gritty guys too. They got some tough gritty guys. So they, they, they pretty good.

[Joe Johnson]

You know, people look at Alabama and people just think Alabama football. Yeah, but Alabama used to have basketball.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What you talking about?

[Joe Johnson]

I mean you, you know, you. They had Ori went to Alabama before them.

[Liberty City Zone]

They had free with Alabama.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, they had a Gerald Wallace I played with.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, before then. That was before your time. They had Bobby Lee hurt. They had Ena Squatley.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh they had some guys, they got some dogs. Some. Some boy raised down. Down deep in the south and Mac

[Joe Johnson]

hey prior to him getting hurt, Antonio nice.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I play with McDyess huh.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm talking about. You talking about 610 and can leave the building.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He's like that Ocho. I'm talking about like that goodness head tap. That boy. Hey, that boy could fly. That boy could fly.

[Joe Johnson]

Before we hurt that knee. Oh, he was. Hey. Cause I was it. I was in Denver when he got.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah yeah yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I was at Brian Steeles came there lafonso Ellis. I was there when Jalen Rose got there. All of Dikembe Mutumbo, all of them Rodney Rogers mellow. So. So hey McDyess. Lord have mercy, man, before he hurt that knee, he was something to deal with.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He want nothing to play with. That boy was serious.

[Joe Johnson]

He was like that. But Bama has some.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, they normally keep. They normally keep some Hoopers though.

[Joe Johnson]

They.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They basketball team. Really. They may not obviously you know, we know what the football side, what the football program does, but basketball wise they rarely ever slouches now.

[Joe Johnson]

They.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They normally keep some. Some pretty good guys over there.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah, I know that. I think Alabama football it overshadowed it. They so goddamn good.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It does.

[Joe Johnson]

It does. It does. It does.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It does.

[Joe Johnson]

It's just like Michigan football. Michigan has some players come basketball players

[Chad Ochocinco]

Come out here, too.

[Joe Johnson]

Now, don't sleep on Michigan basketball players.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But Michigan, that's a football school, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, people just talk about the Fab Five, but hey, man, when they had Glenn Rice and Mills and all those guys, they had some guys.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, now they had some guys. They had some guys. Hey, hey.

[Joe Johnson]

But the number one seed so far, other than Florida, advanced. Who does Michigan play next?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, you, you, you. You see, you see 10.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, oh, they play Tennessee.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You see, Michigan got a lot of juniors and seniors, too.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, hey, they.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They got experience that they. That they banking on, but they got guys playing well. The one thing though, that I noticed about their bigs, man, they can pass. They got. I'm gonna tell y' all something, man. In today's game.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You got any young Hoopers is out there listening? Chad. Y', all, y' all hear me out, man. Having a great IQ for the game, knowing how to pass, knowing how to play the right way. That'll get you a long way, bro. Michigan got some guys. I'm talking about them back door passes. When you got them guys playing over aggressive.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Setting, picking roles for you bigs and they can play make. They take a lot of pressure off your guards for guys who really can't get by their man like that.

[Liberty City Zone]

Right, right, right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know what I mean? You got different ways to get open to exploit the game and manipulate it in so many different ways. When you're big is versatile like that. That's why Yoke is so special, man. Look at Jokic.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, you see what he had? You saw?

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, what he had 33, 14, 12.

[Joe Johnson]

33, 14 and 12.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yo. Hey, he playing in our face right now. Y' all know that, right? That man playing our favor.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, we.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, hey. Y' all think he don't hear the chatters about who should be mvp? He always gonna be in it. But the man, triple double for sure.

[Joe Johnson]

I think you know what it is, Joe. Give me a guy that has. That has iq, be it football, basketball, baseball. Because a lot of times, Ocho, we play with guys, dude. Robotic, you say, hey, hey, bro, this right 10 to 12. Well, the guy standing right there, you go run behind. Dumb. Dumb don't run behind him. The quarterback ain't gonna throw you the damn ball. You run behind the DB cut in front of him, man, you know what? Hey, I saw, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, IQ making you, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

I can't. Son, I hate to tell you this, but if Dynamite were brains, you couldn't blow your nose.

[Liberty City Zone]

Come on over and Joe, the better your iq, Especially when it comes to the game of football, obviously. I'm sure basketball is the same way where you can see what's going to happen before it happens, or knowing what's going to happen actually before it happens to be two steps ahead of everybody else at times. At times, I could just speak for me, playing receiver. Joke.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Liberty City Zone]

Always two or three steps ahead of the person in front of me.

[Electric For All Representative]

Right.

[Liberty City Zone]

Two or three ahead of the safety. Because I understand what you have to do and I know where you're going to be. So understanding how to manipulate what's in front of me and give the illusion that I'm doing something that I'm really not going to do.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Liberty City Zone]

So I can get the spot I need to get to as fast as hell.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I understand it.

[Liberty City Zone]

You know what I mean?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I think.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I think you may. I think you may even have to have that in basketball more than you do in football, especially if you got

[Liberty City Zone]

the ball in your hand.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I don't.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, because the floor, if things happen,

[Chad Ochocinco]

you have to understand floor spacing. You know what I mean? I think that's the biggest key. Especially these young guys who really don't know how to play the game. You know, they don't understand floor spacing and getting deep corner getting out your man way. You know, you got a guy operating, you standing right next to him. Cut. You know, you have a lot of these cats gotta learn, Ocho, because they all growing up with the ball in their hand. And when they don't have it in their hand, they just look like statues out there. They don't know what the hell to do. Yeah.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, you know, Uncle Joe, you know what they always say when it comes to sports? The game, especially once you get to the highest level, the game is 90. Mental, hello. It's only 10. Physical, hello, middle. Because. So now it. It all comes to how much you know up here. How can you see the game and see things before they actually happen?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Liberty City Zone]

Always having a plan. If plan they don't go right. How fast can you. Can you. Can you reenact? Yeah, it happened with plan B. Yeah. Being able to adjust on the fly.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Liberty City Zone]

Like, I mean it, man. It's. Oh, it's.

[Joe Johnson]

That's what makes me so upset. Ocho is that. And we talk about this all the time. I say, ocho, he got help to the inside. Why would he get beat outside when he know he got help inside? If you got help outside, why would you get beat inside? That's what kills me. You see the guy. You see that safety coming down? If you see the safety coming down, what do you think the man on top of your head gonna do? He going inside, the safety is coming down because now he has outside contained. Bro, how you get beat on that, man? I. What you mean you didn't know? Did you watch film? They did it on film 10 times, but every time. But give me your phone right quick. Let me see how many phone numbers you got in the last. The last last five days. You got that? You wrote all them down, but you don't remember these.

[Liberty City Zone]

Damn place.

[Joe Johnson]

See, that's OC, Joe. That's why I couldn't coach, man. It. It drove me crazy that we go over stuff and they show up on film. They're gonna give you this look. It's just like spags. We already know. If spags get you. If, If. If Spags feel threats, he's coming with pressure. You know that it's coming. Why is it in a situation that we've gone over and over and over and over? You effing up.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, I know exactly what he mean, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

Man, you know, it's chopping. It ain't okay. It is not okay. Stop telling me that it's okay. It ain't.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, damn.

[Joe Johnson]

Like, bro, how. And you mean to tell me. So let me get this straight. You can't remember one damn play, but you quick to tell me I got 1300 on the SAT.

[Liberty City Zone]

I got.

[Joe Johnson]

I gotta. I got a 30 over act. I can't tell who took the test for you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh,

[Joe Johnson]

your SAT must have been just shape. What is this, a square, a rectangle, or a circle? Because ain't no way in hell you can't remember this, but you got a sport. 13, 1400 SAT, bro, it. That's. That's why I. I just. I just don't have the patience. I just. I. I don't. I try. I just don't. Because if I can get it. And I know when I got there, I didn't know nothing. I ain't know nothing about no over, no under. I didn't know about no coverages. I ain't know no 2, I ain't no 1, I ain't no 6, I ain't no quarters, ain't no 7, I ain't no 8, I ain't no nothing. And for me to pick it up and to be able to do flourish in it. Lord have mercy. I get mad every time I think about somebody that I'm effed up a coverage.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, Joe. Joe. I ain't had no choice but to get it, Joe. Had no choice.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, none of us had a choice, Ocho.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, I talked to I, too. I talked too much not to get it, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Liberty City Zone]

I had to be on top of my game.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Cause if you don't talk people out their game, you. But you talking. You worried about me. You got the flat here. You carry me up the scene. Yeah. Nothing today. Got 15. Your black ass supposed to be in the flat. Why you worried about me up the scene? Oh, man, but you ain't. They would rather. They would rather shut you down, Ocho. Blowing assignment. Saying I. You ain't catching no pass. As opposed. You got the flat, you got hood.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Ain't that. Yeah,

[Joe Johnson]

I just. Man, I be thinking about stuff. I. Lord have mercy. I said, Lord, you could have. I said, I, I wouldn't mind, Lord, if you took a little bit of talent and gave me more patience. He gave me all talent, no patience.

[Liberty City Zone]

You know, I, I, I can see you. I can still see you coaching for some reason. Hey, even. Even though. Hey, Joe. Even though he say I don't have the patience for it, but I understand that what he could do, especially with his structure and discipline when it comes to playing whatever sport it may be, whether it's football, whether it's basketball, but being that he knows both really well. Yeah, I can see, Coach. Especially at the highest level, you get somebody like that in the building, man, stop playing.

[Joe Johnson]

Because it's hard, Ocho. I mean, it's hard to develop this level of discipline if you're not already disciplined. Discipline.

[Liberty City Zone]

No, that's what. That's what you got.

[Joe Johnson]

That's got. I mean, you're like. I mean, it's just like. It's obsessive. I mean, it's. It's a. I don't know. I don't know if I want somebody as disciplined as I was, Ocho, because it ain't. It ain't healthy. And the thing is that it drives you crazy. Because everything. My grandfather, it had to be right. And so I always tried to do everything because there ain't no if he didn't. Like, if you. It wasn't no good job. I remember he told me and my brother. Well, he gave us. He gave. Told me and my brother to watch the truck. He gave us a dollar. No, he gave us two dollars. He gave us, like, 350. I got a dollar because I just watched the tires. My brother was in charge of washing the truck. The body dried it off to do all that Other stuff. We were going to house. We run the house. Papa, Papa, we done. He come out there and look at it. He looked at me and spanking. Standing side by side. He looked at the truck. He looked at me and spanking. He looked at the truck, he looked at me and spanky. Don't laugh, y'. All. He say, anything is better than nothing. But you two fellas real close together. I look, I live with Diego. I thought we did a good. Oh, Joe. I thought we did a good job. Hey, hey, you know what I need? I need my brother. See, my sister don't like when we tell the story, but that joker was hard.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He was hard on.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, there was. There. There was. There was no excuses. He didn't. He didn't tolerate excuses. He did not damn either. Get it. I'm like. I'm like. And I remember being spanking. Walking up, he's like, we real close to. Yeah, that's what he said. So.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, hey, listen.

[Joe Johnson]

What he said. So I could. I couldn't. I could. I couldn't do it. I couldn't do it. It took a lot. Because, you know, when you have kids, you have to develop a certain level. I'm talking about patience to the upgrade. Because like. Like wet in the bed. They gave you two. You was about two years old, maybe two and a half, three. Boy, if you was four years old, let alone five, six, seven. They were teasing you. They were teasing, Teasing. Boy, Barney Porter shut down on your ass. Mary Porter gonna shut down on your ass. Oh, hell, no. Like, somebody. And I like, you know, kids have problems where they, you know, they wet the bed. It's a lot of things. Like, a lot of this stuff like you had. But they beat that Apache. Oh, they. You all. All those. That what kids have now talk about, you know, he got adhd, you know.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, listen. Hey, Joe, back in them days, you know, it wasn't no adhd. You were just stupid. That's it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You was.

[Joe Johnson]

You were stupid. Yeah. They tell you, guess what? They tear your ass up, and all of a sudden you're like, damn, I could do this homework so good. Oh, four plus four is eight. Eight times four is 32. Oh, I could do my homework. What would Barney and Mary shut down on your ass? I could read. I'm like, damn, this so easy, boy. You know, a whipping solved everything in the South.

[Liberty City Zone]

Everything.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You got him.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, you. Hey.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hey, Grandma.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I'mma tell the story. We go. Go. My granddad used to have a saying that, like, my aunts that would come in the house. And, you know, they wouldn't speak because my grandfather was big in that. You couldn't walk in his house and not speak. But you know how women. I mean, they. They teenage girls, you know, they might be on their cycle or whatever, and they walk in the house and then it wouldn't say anything to him. My grandfather say, is there something on your mind? You want on dance? No, sir. Hey, hey, look at. Oh, Joey Joe, I'm telling you, y' all need to get my brother, boy,

[Chad Ochocinco]

part of them play that.

[Joe Johnson]

All that coming in the house and all that sucking your teeth and slamming the doors. No, when you walk into the house, it's yes, sir. Hey, good morning, good morning, good afternoon, good night, whatever the case may be. But don't you walk in that man house and don't. What?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, man. Hey, y'.

[Joe Johnson]

All.

[Chad Ochocinco]

When I was in elementary, bro, we were still. You still getting paddles? You get paddled?

[Joe Johnson]

Yes, we have.

[Liberty City Zone]

We had paddles.

[Joe Johnson]

I was in high school. You could get paddled.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I know when I was in elementary, you get a paddle. I went to the office one time, Ms. Goshen, where she gave me. She hit me three times with that paddle.

[Liberty City Zone]

You got that paddle, Joe?

[Chad Ochocinco]

One time, Ocho. One time.

[Liberty City Zone]

That's all it took, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Three times. She hit me three times with that paddle, boy. Hey, hey, hey. Never again.

[Joe Johnson]

Three. Oh, boy, Y' all got off life, man. I remember my homeboy told the teacher her breath thing. She gave that joke about.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He probably deserved it.

[Liberty City Zone]

Hold on, hold on now. So he got 35 legs for the teacher. I know he got some when he got home.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, they. Duh. Hey, I. I was. I was just surprised.

[Liberty City Zone]

He.

[Joe Johnson]

He, he. He lasted long in school? About as long as Skippy in the military, you know, skipping. He skipped. The military got you. No, they wanted them. I mean, once they got to a certain age, I was like, I don't really expect. I mean, if a guy missing 15, 20, 30 days in the second, third, fourth, and fifth grade, as soon as he get big enough.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah, it's a rap. It's right.

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, we roll. I. We ride by. They rolling dice. So I like. He ain't. They ain't come. If you rolling dice at 7:30 in the morning, what's your chance of you coming to school, Joe? What's the chance?

[Chad Ochocinco]

It ain't. It ain't none.

[Liberty City Zone]

I got you.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, hey, the boy.

[Joe Johnson]

There it is. Tennessee beat Iowa State 7662. The balls pulled away in the second half because of Their superior size, physicality, toughness, as Iowa State seemed to crack without star forward Joshua Jefferson. Rick Barnes and DeVos are back to their third consecutive Elite Eight. Will have a chance to reach the Final Four for the first time in team.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Wow.

[Joe Johnson]

History.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Wow. Hey, I'm happy for Tennessee. Another sec blood, another team. Yep. They got some young guys. They got the freshman. Admit who. Who will be a lottery pick this year, Uncle Ocho. But the rest of these guys are juniors, seniors. They got a. I think they got another freshman or two coming out the bench. But for the most part, Gary, they. They got. They got the upperclassmen doing the dirty work while the young guys, you know, doing all the scoring, you know what I mean? And this was surprising to me. It was surprising because I was led by two guards. That's a senior, you know, Obviously, I thought both of them played well, but Tennessee. Too much, bro. They brewed. They got some bruises under that basket, man.

[Joe Johnson]

They got out. They out rebounded Iowa State by 21. You get out rebounded by that, you. I'm surprised the score wasn't more lopsided. Think about it. If you get out rebounded by 21. Yeah. They had 16 offensive rebounds, shot 51% from the field. So, I mean, got some good matchups. So I guess it's Michigan and Tennessee Duke.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, we here now. We here now.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah. Hey, you should see. Hey, you should see who. When it comes down to them brackets, you know who went first now, right?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Who you got? Who you got winning, Ocho?

[Liberty City Zone]

And you know who went first right now, right?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Who we got

[Liberty City Zone]

first, right? Hey, y' all making all them jokes, talking about I'm picking mascots.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, you did. You were.

[Joe Johnson]

You did.

[Liberty City Zone]

Listen, listen, listen. Who was in first right now? And let me tell you who gonna win the whole. The March Madness bracket.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Who gonna win it?

[Liberty City Zone]

What you mean, who gonna win? I was pulling up the rear in the beginning, huh? Come on, now.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Who you picked?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, hold on.

[Liberty City Zone]

Let me keep my feet up.

[Joe Johnson]

He still got Duke in it. He still got Arizona in it. He got Michigan, but he had Virginia to beat Michigan. His bottom half bracket gone. His busted. The south bracket is busted. But he still got Duke. He still. He got Duke in Arizona in the championship to play for the national championship. He got Arizona to win it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, Arizona look good. I ain't gonna lie to you.

[Liberty City Zone]

I mean, what you want me to say? What you want me to say, Joe?

[Chad Ochocinco]

But you only picked them because you just looked at a Wildcat versus a Hog. That's what I know. That's what I'm saying.

[Liberty City Zone]

Joe. Ain't got nothing to do with it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, it is, man. You don't even know nothing. You don't know nothing about these teams. You know, the mascot and you, like, that's what I'm going with. And it's, it's worked out well for you. I ain't hating on you. I'm just saying.

[Liberty City Zone]

Yeah, I, I, I feel, I feel

[Joe Johnson]

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[Chad Ochocinco]

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[Joe Johnson]

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