Nightcap Hour 1: Eagles IN TROUBLE after LOSS to Chargers + Unc & Ocho DEMAND Kevin Stefanski to ADMIT he was WRONG + Shannon WARNS Cam Ward as WORDS BACKFIRE

Summary

Club Shay Shay: Nightcap Hour 1 – Week 14 Fallout, Eagles Trouble, Stefanski Debate, and Leadership Lessons

Podcast: Club Shay Shay, “Nightcap Hour 1: Eagles IN TROUBLE after LOSS to Chargers + Unc & Ocho DEMAND Kevin Stefanski to ADMIT he was WRONG + Shannon WARNS Cam Ward as WORDS BACKFIRE”
Date: December 9, 2025
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe & Chad Ochocinco Johnson

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Episode Overview

In this “Nightcap Hour 1,” Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson break down the major storylines from Week 14 of the NFL. The focus is on the Los Angeles Chargers’ overtime win over the Philadelphia Eagles, the Eagles’ worrying turnovers, Cleveland Browns’ QB drama with Kevin Stefanski’s late commitment to Shador Sanders, and a cautionary tale about leadership and communication in the Titans’ locker room after QB Cam Ward’s postgame comments. As always, the conversation is highly animated, insightful, and full of memorable one-liners.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Chargers Upset Eagles: Overtime Thriller & Eagles Turnover Woes

Timestamps: 06:34–32:00

• Recap of the game: Chargers win 22–19 in overtime, keeping AFC West competitive; Eagles fall to 8–5, allowing Cowboys a glimmer of divisional hope.
• Jalen Hurts’ struggles:
  • Hurts throws 4 INTs (career high), fumbles twice (two turnovers on one play).
  • Ocho highlights Hurts' unusual poor decisions, especially forcing throws into heavy coverage to the short side:
    • “The flat route is right there. Make the guy come up, make a goddamn tackle.” (09:32, Ochocinco)
  • Both dissect the key interception in OT: Hurts predetermines a tight throw instead of taking the easy option.
• Eagles’ red zone playcalling:
  • Ocho questions the choice to run complex combo routes to the short side (“If you gonna run that concept, you gotta run that to the wide side...”) (10:28)
  • Shannon: “He had already made his mind up where he was going with the football.” (12:54)
• Blame on receivers and play design:
  • Some INTs not all on Hurts—A.J. Brown takes responsibility for a key tip-drill pick after seeing a lurking linebacker.
  • Devonta Smith tripped on a route resulting in another turnover (19:22)
• Defensive bright spots for the Eagles:
  • Eagles’ D sacked Justin Herbert 7 times; nearly double-digit pressure if not for Herbert’s mobility.
  • Despite five turnovers, Eagles only lose by three—defense keeping them in games.
  • “Five turnovers and you lose by three...If we have two turnovers, you win this game easily.” (27:16, Shannon Sharpe)
• Eagles’ running game woke up with Saquon Barkley at 122 yards on 20 carries (17:31).
• Season outlook:
  • Both agree the Eagles’ schedule offers some hope (playing Commanders, Giants, Raiders, Bills), but Shannon’s faith in them is only “a five out of ten” (25:00).

2. Playoff Implications & AFC West Tight Race

Timestamps: 22:24–36:10

• Chargers stay alive; division with Broncos remains close.
• The last weeks’ schedules for both teams discussed; the playoff picture could come down to the final game.

3. QB Leadership, Learning Moments, and Locker Room Lessons

Timestamps: 48:12–74:15

A. Browns’ Kevin Stefanski Reluctantly Names Shador as QB1

• Stefanski finally commits to Shador as starting quarterback “for the rest of the season” (48:12).
  • Stefanski avoids admitting his earlier mistakes:
    • "Yeah, I'm not going to get into those type of things, Tony. I'm obviously focused on what's in front of us." (49:04, Stefanski quoted by Shannon)
  • Shannon urges honesty and leadership:
    • “It's OK to admit we made a mistake, right? It's OK to say, you know what? Yeah, maybe if things look different. We all have the luxury of hindsight.” (51:31, Shannon)
    • “It shows maturity...to say I was wrong.” (52:46, Shannon)
• Ocho emphasizes opportunity and preparation for young QBs:
  • “When preparation meets opportunity, when opportunity meets preparation, this is what you get.” (49:28)
• Both acknowledge Browns' chronic instability at QB; now, Shador needs to prove he’s the answer with four tough games ahead.

B. Cam Ward’s Postgame Comments Stir Locker Room Drama in Tennessee

• Cam Ward, after a long-awaited Titans win, downplays its importance:
  • "I really didn't need a win. I treat wins the same. I treat losses the same. There’s always something that I have to do better..." (64:05, paraphrased)
• Arden Key calls him out on the team plane:
  • “Y’all enjoy this. Don’t listen to what Cam said. Y’all enjoy this. It’s hard to win in this league.”
• Shannon’s warning about optics and leadership:
  • "What you mean you didn’t need a win, bro? You had lost like 15 games in a row!" (64:31)
  • “That shit he’s saying...that’s for Tom Brady after five Super Bowls...You better be careful!” (65:36, Shannon)
• Lesson for young QBs:
  • Need to master press and locker room politics:
    • “You have to be very meticulous with your words.” (72:07, Shannon)
    • “A lot of people can talk. Very few can speak. There’s a difference.” (72:34)
  • Ocho: “You gotta choose your words wisely. Especially at the quarterback position, you have to be very PC.” (65:47)

4. Team Culture and Communication: The Power of Words

• Sharpe and Ocho stress that how a leader talks impacts the locker room culture and media perception.
• Learning how to speak “boringly” (a la Tom Brady) until you’ve truly arrived is necessary for longevity and team cohesion.

5. Memorable Banter and Lighthearted Moments

Timestamps: 40:05–44:00, scattered throughout

• Classic back-and-forth on who gets to keep their new “Listener’s Choice Awards.”
  • Ocho jokes: “My shirt’s so tight. Hold on. Okay, okay, go ahead, get to me.” (39:56)
  • Shannon: “I’m not gonna be able to do that. 5,900 for shipping and handling.” (40:55)
  • “Hey, Unc, listen, I love you to death, right—but I’m gonna tell you one thing, boy, you cruising for a bruising.” (40:58, Ocho)
• Ocho’s dad joke about “Mr. Cup is now a Solo Cup.” (62:14)
• Drop-ins of big words (“copious,” “meticulous,” “exuberant”) with playful ribbing.

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• "The flat route is right there. ... Instead of trying to squeeze a corner route which they running... to the goddamn short side of the field. So chances are that's not going to be over." – Chad Ochocinco (09:32)
• "He had already made his mind up where he was going with the football." – Shannon Sharpe (12:54)
• "Five turnovers and you lose by three. Let's just say... we have two turnovers. You win this game easily." – Shannon Sharpe (27:16)
• “How much faith you have in the Eagles rest of the season, scale of 1 to 10?” — Ocho.
  “Honestly, Ocho… Five.” – Shannon Sharpe (25:00)
• “It’s OK to admit we made a mistake, right? It shows maturity.” – Shannon Sharpe (51:31)
• “You have to be very meticulous with your words… A lot of people can talk, very few people can speak. Don’t let that go over your head.” – Shannon Sharpe (72:07, 72:34)
• “You gotta choose your words wisely, especially at the quarterback position. ...That’s a skill, too.” – Ochocinco (65:47)
• “What you mean you didn’t need a win, bro? You had lost like 15 games in a row!” – Shannon Sharpe (64:31)
• “You get a little grace because you’re the quarterback, you’re the first pick… But those guys watching now, and you can't fool them.” – Shannon Sharpe (68:15)

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Episode Flow & Useful Timestamps

• Game Recap and Turnover Analysis: 06:34–21:30
• Division/Season Outlook: 22:24–26:56
• Leadership & Locker Room Lessons (Hurts, Browns, Titans): 48:12–74:15
• Comic Relief & Banter: 39:56–44:00
• Communication Skillset for QBs: 64:05–74:15

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Conclusion

This episode features rich Xs & Os breakdown from two NFL legends, but its real value is in the lessons on leadership and the importance of communication for young quarterbacks. While the Eagles’ playoff confidence is shaken, attention turns to how both Hurts and young guns like Shador Sanders handle adversity and media scrutiny. The hilarious chemistry between Shannon and Ocho shines, blending sharp analysis and playful rivalry.

For aspiring players and fans alike, this is a masterclass in both the technical and human sides of football.

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Good evening ladies and gentlemen and thank you for staying up late with us and joining us for another episode of Nightcap. As you watch this, Los Angeles Chargers winning overtime by the score of 22 to 19 over the Philadelphia Eagles. The Chargers keep pace with the Broncos 9 and 4. Now the Broncos 11 and 2 and they have to play each other again. So the division is not quite one yet. Had the Eagles won this game, the Broncos would have had a stranglehold ocho on the AFC West. Yes, the Chargers win 22 19. The Eagles fall to 8 and 5 and give the Cowboys still a glimmer of hope that they can, hey, they can win enough games and, and, and who knows what can happen, but we'll see. I'm your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp. That is my partner and co host, the guy in the football jersey, Liberty City's own Bingo's ring of fame honoree. A former Pro Bowler and an all pro for the Cincinnati Bengals. That is Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button. And do us a favor, go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. We would like to personally thank you for your eyes, ears and your word of mouth. You guys have made Nightcap what it's become. You guys are the reason we win all these awards. You guys are the reason why we get talked about in the digital space and we can't thank you enough. So continue to support us and we greatly, greatly appreciate that level of support. Guys, looking to purchase a bottle of shade by laportier and you cannot find it any state or city near you? Head over to laportiercognac.com order you a bottle or two. It is a premium BSOP cognac we believe the best tasting premium VSOP cognac on the market. But you need to compare it against other cognacs. Cognacs that you've tasted. Cognacs that you might want to taste. Compared against shaved by Laportier we believe we have the best tasting smoothest cognac on the market. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Go follow my media company on all of its platforms, Shay Shay Media and my clothing company 84 with 84 being spelled out, that link is pinned in the chat Ocho as we have mentioned earlier, the Chargers defeat the Eagles by the score of 22 to 19 in overtime. It looked like the Eagles were going down to win or even tie the game. Win touchdown, tie field goal and then we play on. Then the next score wins. Instead Jaylen Hurts threw into heavy traffic. The ball was deflected by Tony Jefferson. That's fourth interception, four interceptions by Herz and he had another fumble, turned the ball over twice on one play. Oo a new career high for interceptions in a game. Now for all you guys talking about they need to let Jaylen Hurst throw more. Let Jaylen Hurst throw more.

Exhibit A.

Hey.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Go ahead.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I was gonna say obviously I didn't most of the time you think about Jalen and his decision making with the ball. Even though he doesn't throw the ball much on, he always protects the ball. I think before this game started on the season, I think he maybe had three, maybe four interceptions up to this point in in the season. And to have a game like tonight where his decision making wasn't what it usually is, especially at the end of the game, understanding the circumstances. The flat route is right there. The flat route is right there. Make the guy come up, make a goddamn tackle. Instead of trying to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Thank you. Oo thank you.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hold on. Instead of try to squeeze a corner route which he running which they running the corner route to the goddamn short side of the field. So chances are that's not going to be over.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He can play both of them. He could play the so. So to your point because he's in between Goddard and the route. You don't have space. You need space because where are you going? You can't run a 20 yard out route because you're going to be out of the damn end zone. So we got to go up five yards and he goes up seven yards. The guys in between. He can literally play both that that's.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Obviously if you're going to run that concept. If you're going to run that route, comp that, that combination concept. You got to run that to the wide side. Hunk got to run to the wide side. Why run something like that in that situation to the short side of the field? It makes no sense to me. But in that situation, if you do run it, Jalen has to know, boom. As soon as that corner, as soon as the corner drops off just a little bit, trying to play both play, trying to play in between. Just take what's in front of you right now. Let him. Let him come up and make the tackle.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's it. You live to.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You live to see another down.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh. Even if you run that to the short side of the field, it needs. You need to have distance, you got to have separation because he knows where is number two. That's Dawson. I think that's Dawson, right?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yes, yes, yes, yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Where is he going? No, Joe, he can only run so far, but hell, he'll be in Compton.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Which will be out of bounds.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So no touchdown. So he knows that. So now I can play. I can soft play it. Because if you throw it to guard it, I'm gonna come up. It's only a three yard game. Yeah, I'm hoping you throw it to Goddess so I can attack. But guess what? Since you didn't, I get my hand up in the ball. Carol, he played awful tonight. There's no way around it. One of those picks wasn't his.

What you call them? Brown. A.J. yeah, A.J. saw that. He saw that linebacker. He saw that linebacker. That's the one you got. That's the one you gotta. You gotta protect him. Yeah, he's. You see the guy, you know there's a linebacker coming. You got to protect the guy. That's where you throw it, at his waist. That's why you get him down and allow him to protect himself.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

AJ knows that hit his company coming. He's got to make that catch. He's got to make a play. He can't pop it up because if you pop it up, the guy that's trailing you go. You'll get a pick every time. It's as simple as that. But AJ knows he's got to got. He's got to make that play. But then he hit on his own. He hit the D tackle in the damn chest. And then the guy comes. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Listen. That zone blitz and that D tackle pop out instead of rushing. That's hard to see. That's hard to see for a quarter. For question. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The guy that he was trying to throw it to was behind the guy that he hit in the chest. How is that hard to see?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

No, no, I'm just saying, you know, that's why it's called his own bliss. And they had that D tackle pop out like that because you're not expecting as a quarterback, you already. What's that? Predetermined. You already pred. Predetermining with the ball.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I just wanted you to say that.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, okay, okay, okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's all. I just wanted him to say that. Chad.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Right, right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He had already made his mind up where he was going with the football.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's all. I just want him to say that.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Chat.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you're absolutely right. So here's the thing. Oo you make a terrible read. You hit the guy in the chest, the guy comes from behind him, strips him of the football. Okay. The ball pops out. You get it instead of falling on the ground because guess what? Oo, since it's a change of possession, is your ball and his first down going.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

First down going.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You exact. Now you try to be hero. Jaylen want to be a hero. Cuz we gonna talk about it on sports and we gonna talk about it tonight. If he gets that ball up and gets 10 yards, get 15 yards. So instead of doing the wise thing, what did he try to do? OO try to run a cape on. Guess what happened? Ocho ball out again.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

He fumbled again. Yeah. Yeah. Hey. It was a weird, it was a weird game tonight. Was a weird game tonight with so many fumbles, whether it was special teams, whether all, you know, both, both offenses. It was eight turnovers in the game tonight. I'm not sure what the, what the record is for the most turnovers in the game, but this has to be up there with it. This has to be up there with it. And I really thought the defense would have saved the day for them and obviously they. They would have being that San Diego got a field goal in the first overtime. So I thought, hell, the Eagles going to go down and score, you know what you need. I was actually hoping that they were going to score, you know, for the. For, for their sake and, and with. With the way they played. But unfortunately, the decision making on, on, on Jalen, you know, at the end of the game, it, it, it kind of, it kind of hurt. And another thing, one of the, one of the best throws, one of the, one of the throws that, that took unbelievable.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I know the throw you talking about that third.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, that third and 15 where he let that ball go right off the.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Devonte O.

I knew the play. Exactly. The play you talking about, boy, that was beautiful.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Boy, that. That's what we call anticipating.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

And letting it go and trusting your receiver. That was beautiful right there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Boy, that was our show. That's what they ask him to do. That's what he doesn't do well enough when it's. When it's one on one. Yeah, but see, the really good ones, you have to throw in the windows.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You have to trust your skill set while also trusting your receiver to be where he's going to be. But you really got to trust yourself.

You really have to trust yourself.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, also, Ocho, when you ran that. When you ran that bang, that banging eight.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You look, hey, on that seventh step, or that glass rock, we called it. You call it a bang aid. You call it a glance.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When that seven step and that outside foot hit. When I do this.

That ball should be right there. I mean, I. I don't care what that safety does. I don't care. All I know is that corner is on my outside. That ball's gonna be there. And the quarterback job is to protect me, is to protect the throw. Don't put it back here and make me do this. And so he can knock it down. Put it right there.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

And another thing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Put it right there and the safety come. I can protect myself.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Listen, and don't let the safety take a goddamn bad angle. And I want to keep that thing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How about the backside on his ass.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

And dip on there. Come out the backside.

I got away with it one time. I never forget. We was playing the Buffalo Bills at home. Nate Clemens. Nate Clemens was guarding me. I'm not sure what that safety was thinking about, but when I took that seventh step, or like, I mean, maybe my fifth step, I was peeking at the safety and, oh, uncle, he was in the wrong place. He was in the wrong place. He. He had his feet. He had his feet set instead of getting back in that pedal. He wasn't in those.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You already in the full sprint, man.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I. I hugged that. I hugged that and went and like a damn near U turn. Hugged that and came back downhill and got up out the back door in school.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, we ain't got no Eagle fans tonight.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oo, they not in here.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I know, cuz, you know, they normally.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, what you got to say now? Oh, what y' all got to say now about the Eagles? Eagle fan? Come on, we need you get the chat up. How many we got in the chat right now?

Come on, Eagle fans. I know y' all look.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

They might be sleep long as late.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What a bird that. Oh, yo, normally, normally. Eagles fly. Eagles fly. All you see is eagles or everybody chat eagles across the board. Where y' all at? Oh, there you go there one there, one there.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, they. They in there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, but if you notice, Ocho, one of the wings broke the eagle like this here. He got one wing, the other one to his side. So we got to get him to event in advance in the house. In advance.

Eagle has landed. Crash landed. Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

This is the good thing about it, though. The running game. The running game got going a little bit. Saquon had 100 and some chains a night.

[Shannon Sharpe]

122 on 20 carries.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, they got going. Let me see, let me see. What else? Hell, they still got a chance. Huh? They still got a chance. They have a chance. They still have a chance to win the division. They have to play. They have to play.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They got the Commanders twice. They got the Giants and who else they got.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

The Commanders is winnable. The Commanders is winnable. Jaden Daniels is out for the season.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, they got Raiders Commanders. There's a wheels Commanders. They ain't beating the Bills.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Listen, that's. That's, that's the toughest one right there. Where they playing the Bills at? They playing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It don't matter. They could play on the moon.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You don't got no faith in them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, they ain't got no faith in them in themselves. We've seen this movie before. Remember a couple of years ago, they got off to that great start and then they crash landed.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Eagle had. The Eagle has crashed. Yes, we saw that. Doesn't it seem. Doesn't it feel the same. The exact same way?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Right. Matter of fact, this was. This was the year before the super bowl run, actually.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep. Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The Eagles defense played extremely well. They sacked Justin Herbert seven times. Had he not been as mobile and athletic as he is, they probably would have got him 10 or 11 times.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, way more than that. Absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But look, they got to figure this thing out. They really do. I mean, you look at Hunt had two and a half sacks. Bond had a half a sack. Byron Young had a sack and a half. Nicole Dean had a sack. Jordan Davis had a sack and a half. I mean, they would. They was on him.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

And you know what? Someone Let me, let me. But Jalen Hurst too. On. On two of those interceptions. One was A.J. brown's fault. One the one that Deontay. Deontay Jackson or Dante.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Deontay Johnson.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That. That wasn't on Jalen Hurst. That was on Smitty. That's Smitty. Smitty, I love you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah. When he slipped out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You got to come out that ball. You got to come. You got to come out that ball, and you can't stop. You got to come back to it.

[Matt Rogers / Bowen Yang (Los Culturistas)]

That.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That. That. That was a material. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And normally when you slip, when you try to plan on your inside foot and you try to roll in that foot, get out from under you.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Instead of. Instead of dry. Hey, Ocho, instead of dropping your weight, putting that weight on them quads for me. I know they small. They. They ain't a whole lot. Yeah, they small, Smitty. But you got to get back down here because if you roll off that inside foot.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's gonna get out from under you. And he's throwing it on anticipation. Yeah. And this is what's going to happen.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

But it's unfortunate.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, Ocho, have you ever seen a turnover? This. Two turnovers on one play by a guy.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah. Hold on. A long time ago, the New Orleans Saints was playing. I think the Redskins. Remember, somebody fumbled the ball or somebody fumbled the ball. And then Robert Meacham. I think it was Robert Meacham. The Saints had the ball. It was the interception. Then Roger Meacham. Me. But hold the ball from.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Here's the thing.

He. No, but the same guy did it, though. I know the play you talking about.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He threw a pick. The guy fumbled. Robert Meon took it from him. Took it from him and went back the other way with it. Yeah, yeah. I'm talking about the same guy. He throws a pick and.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, no, no, no, no. I've never seen that. I've never seen that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I've never seen it either. I've never. And I've seen some. Some wacky. Wacky, wacky, wacky plays Outlook. The ball bounces funny, and you see some stuff that you like.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You normally wouldn't see. Who is that? I think Jacksonville. Houston playing Houston. And you talk to bat it down. He bats the ball down, Ocho. But he bass it right to a Houston Texan. I mean, to a Jacksonville Jaguar who walks in the end zone on a Hail Mary.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause you knock it down. Knock it down. Oh, damn. He right there knocked it down right in his arm. He walked right into the end zone. We see Jacksonville run all. Who was that? Jacksonville or New Orleans, that run all over the field. They ran a. A lateral, Ocho. They battered like 40 times trying to score. They scored, and then the guy come on and missed the pat.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

But.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, I think I saw something. They said it's the first time since 78, so I don't know. But it's a rare play. Ain't a whole lot of people have seen that play because NFL wasn't covered like it is now. And a lot of people weren't born in 78, so somebody might have saw it, but I have never seen it. And I've seen a lot of wacky things because I've been around since 68, been watching football since 77. Well, I've been watching to understand what I remember. The first game I probably remember is that we went over to my great grandmother's house on a Monday night to watch OJ for real? Yep, to watch OJ OJ Then was playing on a.

A Monday night, and we wanted to see. Oh, my grandfather wanted to see OJ and so. But look, this game, really. The pressure is starting to mount on the Eagles because they had. They got up to this great start. Ocho. They were. They were four or five games clear.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, yeah. Of everybody.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They mess around and lose. They must rather lose another game. And the cow. Hold on. How many? They've got to win. They've got to win. The Cowboys are what, five and what? The Cowboys are six. Six and one. So theory. They've got to win.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Three of the next five.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Three to next five.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, chalk it up for the Raiders. They gonna win. Beat the Raiders.

So, yeah, both teams got four games, so they're gonna have to. The Cowboys could only. The most the Cowboys can win is 10, right. They could be 10, six and one.

Raiders win. Raiders. The Eagles win three of their last four. They get 11. 11 is more than 10.

It'd be very interesting to see if they go two and two.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because now the Cowboys win. Because The Cowboys is 10 and 6. One and y' all to be 10 and 7.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, don't be talking about no man, okay? No Eagle fan. Nope, nope. I don't want to hear that. Don't worry about what I'm a fan of. As a matter of fact, I ain't a fan of nothing. I'm central heating and cooling. That's what I am. I ain't no fan.

Nah, don't be talking about that all of a sudden. I ain't no fan. Y' all don't have no problem when I get on Ocho Bengals, y' all don't have no problem when I get on these other teams. Now y' all wanna now see why they say cry Eagles cry now I see why they say cry Eagles cry now. Cause when I'm on Ocho bad. They were killing Ocho when I get on all these other teams. Oh, y', all, y'. All. Kiki kid, man up. Man up. Went in up. Went in up with on one tonight.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, whoa, whoa, now. Un don't mess with the Eagles. Un mess with everybody. Y' all know what I do. Y' all didn't have no problem when I went on. When I went in on the Ravens yesterday and went on old boy, y' all were Kiki K. I saw all y' all retweeting it.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

So. So how. How much faith. How much faith you have in the. In the Eagles the rest of the season? Scale of one to ten?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Honestly, Ocho.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Five.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, so you. You on the fence.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Five.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because they still haven't figured. Defensively, they're fine. Yeah, but see, here's the problem. What happens when your offense puts you in harm's way? You see, the defense can ball out and the offense don't put him in harm's way. Okay, but what happens when you put me on a short field? You put me on a short field, guy walks out there, I don't get another yard, I got a field goal. Right, See, that's the problem that you run into.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And plus, Ocho, look, we look at the commanders, we say, well, the commanders, but that's a division game. Yeah, you know how division games are. It don't matter, right? And misery loves company. What? Washington going after the last game of the season. Guess what?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I'm taking you with me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got ice cream and I ain't got none. I'mma knock yours out your hand. We both ain't got none.

Hey.

But I just saying we're g. Having a good time. But now look, the defense is outstanding. Their defense is going to keep them.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

In a lot of games playing really well.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, think about it. O. It took overtime to get to 22. Took overtime to get to 22. As a matter of fact, they took the last drive to get to 19. Yeah, and so that's how well the Eagles defense is still playing. They had a quarterback. Justin Herbert had 139 yards passing. Now, they did give up 160 something yards, 69 yards rushing. But a couple of those ran runs came in overtime. Ocho, when the first play of overtime, Herbert kept the ball. Remember, he picked up like, what, 13 yards on that one? So some of that. Some of that came in overtime. But when you look at this and you see 12 or 26, we held him to under 50%. Way under we have. I mean, that looked like in the mid-40s, 12 or 26. I don't know, at the top of my head. 439 yards, ocho.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, absolutely. And this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I could live with that.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Listen, hold on. Another tall tale on how well the. The Eagles defense play here. Forget playing tonight, how well they played all season long.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Correct?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah. You had goddamn five turnovers. Five turnovers and you lose by. Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you lose by three.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Man, this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Five turnovers and you lose by three. Oo. Let's just say, for the sake of argument, oo, we have three. What if we have two? Let's just say we have two turnovers. You win this game easily.

And that's the problem that you have, because it doesn't matter how well a particular unit plays, especially your offense, your defense plays if your offense turns the ball over and puts them on harms in harm's way. So let's just say, like I said, just say, for the sake of argument, Ocho, we turn the ball over and we don't allow them to get a first down. The guy walks on the field and kicks a field goal. Yeah, that's three points. That's three points that. That our offense gave up because we didn't allow first down. We didn't allow them to gain a yard.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's. It's just tough.

I mean, AJ had 13 targets, six catches. Dallas Garter had 10 targets, eight catches. Schmitty had eight targets, four catches.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

And you know, you know what? I don't want to happen. Even though they had a game like tonight, I. I don't want Jalen to get Gunshot. Don't get gunshot. Keep throwing. Keep throwing that thing. Keep throwing that thing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But he already. Gunshot. That's why you won't throw in the tight windows.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

But listen. But listen, what I saw on that third and 15 when he thread that goddamn needle and he made that anticipate anticipatory throw. Yes, he can do that all the time. He can do it. If you can do it right there in that moment where the game is on the goddamn line. The game is on the line. You have. You need that play. If you could do it, then you could do it consistently.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How many have court shots can you make?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

How many have court shots can you make. So if I go out there and I give you. And you first try, you make it. And so what you gonna say? You know what? I made it in. I can make it all the time. You believe that?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I mean, hey, that's a good one. That's some. That's a little bit of an exaggeration.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Especially Ocho. Think about what you said in that moment, right.

When you throw caution to the wind, and you feel like, well, I ain't got nothing to lose.

Now. It was that moment in the ball game that he had to do that in the first quarter. He's gonna be a little more tentative. He knows if I don't get this. Ocho is fourth and something.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

He had no. He now. He had no choice but to let it go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, that was. That's as good a throw as we've seen Jalen hurts make this year. Hold up.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That was the best. That was the. That was the best throw, as you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Said, given the circumstances. Third and 15. Overtime. Back against the wall. We're down three. We don't want to be fourth and 15.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

At worst. I mean, look, if he takes a flat throw, give me something. I don't want to be 4th and 15. Let's just say if I'm 4th and 5, I can live with that. But he got the whole shebang. I thought for a second, I like she. Spitty might come out the backside.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I thought he was.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I thought he was.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Listening. All it take is for that safety to take the wrong angle. You take the wrong angle, is. Is curtain.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But look, they got their work cut out for the charges. Had to win this game. The Chargers don't win this game. It's basically. It's basically curtains for them because I don't think they can do enough. What it could have because it's four games left. They'd have been 8 and 4. The Broncos are 11 and 2. They play the Broncos the last game of the season. So the Broncos theoretically could play them and the Chargers would win the tiebreaker if they Both finish at 12 wins. O Joe.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because they would have swept the series. So they own the tiebreaker. Right now the Broncos own the tiebreaker over the Patriots because they beat the Raiders and the Raiders beat this. Beat the Pats, the beginning of the season. So theory. This thing is not over yet. It's a long ways from being over. But the Eagles really got their work. They really dug themselves a hole with this one. Ocho and the Cowboys like, damn. Just when we. Every time we. Every time we try to step in front of the train equals you pull us back off the tracks.

We we see the train coming.

We right there let the train go on and run over Eagle, say nah, not just yet and pull us off the track. But.

Who did the who did the Chargers play next?

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Well, who they got? Who they got?

[Shannon Sharpe]

They got the Chiefs. They got the Texans.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Chiefs.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Chiefs. Oh, they got the Chiefs. They got the Cowboys. They got the Texans and they got the Broncos.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh my God. But what a way to end.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If the Eagles and you know the Eagles. The Eagles got seven sacks. You know the Broncos defense chomping at the bit.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, they definitely coming.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They coming. And that's in Denver. That game's in Denver.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I. I just. Justin Herman need to take care of that left hand. Too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hard. Oo. Cause it's. Because the thing is. Oh, you do everything you can not to fall down on it. Yeah, it's. And it's hard. And it's hard. It's hard not to. It's hard to protect the ball. It's hard to do this. Cause, hey, you saw them guys swiping at it.

He got. He got a hurt ankle.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, Anytime, anytime they run to the right. And watching him hand off with the right hand. Hey, that look funny as hell.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah.

Yep. Or the backhand handoff. But look, I think this is what the NFL wanted. That's why everybody have to play a division game the last game of the season. Because normally what were guys doing? Ocho? Guys were sitting guys out. Ain't nobody.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, bro, you got to play now.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah. You don't have a choice.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ain't nobody got no division. You look at the AF, you look at the NFC west, the, the 49ers, Seahawks, the Rams, and you got. Who else? And Seattle.

[Matt Rogers / Bowen Yang (Los Culturistas)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, that thing coming out. That thing coming out to the last month, the last game.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Last game. Yep.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what you want. You look at the situation with the AFC North.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got the Steelers, you got the Ravens and the Bingo. Say, hey, we ain't done yet.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

No, I'm. Hey, I'm. Hey, I'm glad you know. I'm glad you know, they done.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I'm saying, they just say, hey.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

No, you said, you said exactly, you, you said exactly how you feel.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Even.

AFC south with the Houston Texans and Jags and you see, they brought Philip Rivers in.44 year old Philip Rivers.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Well, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Now. I'm in impeccable shape. If Philip Rivers can come back and play, I mean, the Bengals should go and give me a shot.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ojo, y' all play totally different position. And Philip Rivers has never, never relied on athleticism. You see Philip Rivers up close.

He ain't got much legs. He got 10 kids. He ain't got much legs left. Ojo, damn. He got grandkids.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, Damn. Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, I got grandkids, but hell, I'm 57.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I have no grandkids at 44.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, I'm, I'm. I got grandkids. I got a grandchild.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Do you?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

For the game. One week after undergoing surgery to repair a fracture on a non throwing hand, Herbert led his team in Russian and had put up to five yards total. He rushed for 66 yards. Ocho on 10 carries. He gained 20 of that on the game tying drive late in the fourth quarter.

I mean, these guys, I mean, the days of it, it's. Guys are mobile now. Guys, I mean, you look at that division. Mahomes got legs. Bo Nicks definitely got legs. Herbert got legs. I mean, guy. The days of Ocho used to be, you know, you have one or two guys that was mobile and if you were mobile, that was. That was a strike against you.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They downgraded you who were mobile. Now you got to have it.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah. And yeah, the game has evolved. It's not. It's not. It's not like the same way where quarterbacks were statues back there and you were. You were, you know, a prototypical drop back passing quarterback.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, that.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That. That is. That is not what it is today. But if you are that, then you have to make up for that and be special in so many other areas.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

For your lack of production with your legs.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You write about that, Ocho, you ain't. You know what? I can't. I. You. When you write, you ain't wrong.

Ocho, we got some good news.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, whoa, wait, wait, wait, wait. Let me get comfortable. Let me get comfortable. Oh, let me take. Man, my shirt's so tight. Hold on. Okay, okay, go ahead, get to me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We got the great news. The good news is our awards came in.

The bad news is they sent me your awards.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Come on, man. Hey, listen, we not able.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Come on, man. Hey, don't. Come on, man. Now. You want to. Come on, man. Chat y' all here. Come on, man. Come on, man. No, it don't. Come on, man.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Now. Hey, hey, let me tell you something. It's gonna be. It's gonna be 2020. Listen, I. Listen, hold on.

Hey, See? Hey, you must have forgot the same way I broke in your house and got these two. The next time you got to have a signing or you got to do, you know, you know, go somewhere for laportier, I come back in your house again, it'll make me none. So you. You could do. You could do two things. You can send me my awards.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, unfortunately, I'm not gonna be able to do that. 5,900 for shipping and handling.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, Unc, listen, I love you to death, right? But I'm gonna tell you one thing, boy, you cruising for a bruising, boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, look at this.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, hey, that thing. Oh, that thing shiny, too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, Chad, look at all your awards.

He got. He got tour to face.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, hey.

Hey, hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, you. You cruising for a bruising. You hear me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, no. Here it is right here.

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, let me see. Hold it up again.

God, the ASA is shiny. Hey, that's. That's real gold.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look at what they say. What does that say, Chat?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

What it say on there?

I can't see, uncle. I only got one eye.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It says 2025 Listeners Choice Award. Chad Johnson, Nightcap, Shay Shay Media. Oh, that's me. 2025 Listeners Choice Award. Chad Johnson, Nightcap Shay Shay Media hey, hey, hey, hey.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I'm so happy. I'm so proud.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know what you're happy for.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, hey, hey. I'm so happy because, you know, through. Through life. In life, you know, I ain't really never won nothing. No. You know, being here on the show and you giving me the opportunity to be on the show. This is my first time winning multiple awards back to back because I couldn't do it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Deal.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

So this means so much to me. That's why you need to send me my award, because I can get upset, I can get emotional about my awards.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who would you like? Who would you like to. Because if. Who would you like to get? Would you like for French fry to get one?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, matter of fact, I want one for all my kids.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Unfortunately, you only got two, so. French fried Garrett one. Who do you want the other one to go to?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You know what? I'm gonna let. I'm gonna let the two babies. I'm gonna let Cha Cha and Kennedy split the other one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, I like. I like that. Hey, but you're a real. So you're gonna send it to me so I can give it to him for Christmas?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, not gonna be able to do that, Ocho. I mean, as much as. I mean it pains me to say that I'm not right, but I'm not.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That's all right. That's all right. Hey, I'll tell you. I tell you one thing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm going to put these in the safe deposit box in the bank.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That ain't gonna work. They definitely. They're not gonna put. They ain't gonna put that in there yet.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hold on. It's my safe deposit box. What you mean they're not gonna put that in there?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

What kind of. What kind of safe deposit box you got that's gonna fit that big ass ago?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think it's a 16 by 20 or 20 by 24. Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

What bank?

[Rob Gronkowski]

You.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Who you bank with?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, I like that.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, you saw. You saw the movie the Town?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I saw the Town.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We're gonna put it in Massachusetts.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, go ahead and put it in there. Let me show you how I get it out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, you want to be a inside man with Clive over. Clive over there.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

God damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Jody Foster. Jody Foster.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Jody Foster.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Jamie Fox.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

No, no, no, that's Denzel.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That was Denzel. Denzel was investigator.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

They were stuck in the.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Jody Foster, Christopher Plummer and Clive Owen.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, that was a good movie. Boy, that was a good movie.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

All right, Ocho, but here's the, here's the deal. The Browns have finally named Shador their starting quarterback for the rest of the season. No more week to week bull job. Here's what Stefanski had to say about it today. Yeah, I think all along, Mary Kay, as you know, with our quarterbacks and our young players, you're always making sure that you're making the right decisions for our guys. And I think he's, he has constantly and consistently gotten better in each one of these games and how he's approached this game. He's been working very hard, so I feel good about where his development is heading. He knows there's, there are always going to be plays that he can be better and, and those type of things. But he's very intentional about getting better each and every game. He's out there. Kevin, Hi. Was it a mistake not to start Shador earlier?

Yeah, I'm not going to get into those type of things, Tony. I'm obviously focused on what's in front of us.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, I mean, that's a good, that's A good thing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Better when you could actually. When he could actually get on the field and show you what he can do. Yes. Standing on the side, flipping the ball and. And, And. And. And going through his drop backs when he ain't throwing to nobody. Right. Look, Ocho.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I want to hear what you got to say on this.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I mean, I was just gonna say it's a good thing. There's no. There's no more confusion. You're not looking over your shoulder. You can go out there, you can lock in and do what you need to do. Preparation. Now, you say it all the time. I've said it all the time. And that goes for anybody, whether it's sports, whether it's life in general. When preparation meets opportunity, when opportunity meets preparation, this is what you get. You get games like this. So the more. The more he gets to gel and build that continuity and chemistry with his offense and his receivers and his offensive linemen, the better he's going to look on the field. And just to think about it, if I think about what he would look like if you look like this in his third game, what do you think it would look like if you've been playing all season long? There's nothing we can do about that. All we can do is think about and start from where we are right now. The game you had last week, what you want to do is you want to build off of that. Build off of that and continue to go forward, finish the season off strong. So they have no choice. So they have no choice. Even if you might be auditioning for another team. Listen, we can take him, but if he can do what he's doing right now for the Cleveland Browns organization, imagine if we were able to bring him in here where we have a better supporting cast to put around him. So I think he's auditioning still. If he's not going to be in Cleveland next year, he's auditioning for another job somewhere else where he can be the starter and not have to worry.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I agree. Can Stefanski not say sure. Is sh. Words. Is that out of his vocabulary? Because why can't he just say the man? Why can't he say the man's name? Why did I say. When we. Dealing with young players, you know. Well, I think Shadors do. I think Shador's progressed very, very well.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You know why?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I like. I like what I've seen. Even though when he wasn't playing, you can tell a guy that's being very attentive, the guy that's. That's That's a very attention to detail. You see the way he takes copious notes when he's in meetings. You see the way he goes about his business at practice? Although he wasn't getting reps with the. With the starters, and he didn't start getting reps till later in the season.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's okay. Excuse me? It is okay to admit we made a mistake, right? It's okay to say, you know what? Yeah, maybe if things look different. We all have the luxury of hindsight. It's a magnificent science.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We have the luxury of knowing today what we didn't know yesterday. Yes, I get that, and I get your questions. And all your questions are very, very valid.

But if I were to answer your question, if I would ask the. The reporter's question and honesty now.

I look bad, this organization look bad, and I don't want that. Right?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You see what you just did? Did you see how you answered that question so eloquently? Not only do you. Not only did you answer eloquently, you threw a word in there. I don't know what the hell it meant. So that's why I raised them. Hey, that's why I raised my finger. I want you to go back to that because. What kind of notes did he take again?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Copious. Ooh.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, well, you bet you're thesaurus.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh?

I think the thing is people have a hard time. And I get it. It's hard because we don't like to be wrong. And if we're wrong, we damn sure don't want to admit that we wrong. But I think. I think it shows growth.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think it shows maturity. That when we're wrong and we're mad or we're woman enough to say that I was wrong, that.

Wish we could have done something differently. Right. Whatever. Whatever the reasons were, I was wrong. And you have to be man or woman enough to say that I was wrong in order for you to. Sincerely. In order for you to have growth. Now, if he didn't want to add. I think we know the answer, Chad. I think we know the answer why he didn't want to answer that. Was it a mistake not to start him? Because he. I would like to think their record would be better than what it was now. It could be chat. I mean, now we're sitting here saying they could have won probably two more games given that Shador. Maybe they don't win no more games. Maybe they have the exact. The identical record. We'll never know. But.

It'S hard to get somebody to admit when they wrong.

And we see in real time what's actually happening and we see it and a whole lot of guys think about it. He's got probably the, I think the fifth, the fourth or the fifth most passing yards by rookie quarterback that wasn't taken in the first round.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That's crazy.

That's crazy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So.

It'S, it's, I'm glad he's getting an opportunity to start the teams that he's up the, the Bears, the 9 to 4 they're playing in Chicago the next game, the Bills 9 and 4 playoff team Steelers at home the division leader and then they finish on the road at your Ford at your Bengals, which could have some playoff implications for the Bengals. Not for obviously Cleveland's not going anywhere. It also all depend all depends on what would they try to do Ojo did they start like this because they tried to get draft. They're trying to get position for the draft. What, what, what, what would, what were they hoping? Because if, you know, Joe Flacco is what Joe Flacco is, you know, now, I mean the guy's 40 plus years old. You know what he is, he's streaky. He'll win you a game or two and, but he's always been and always has been, always will be a turnover machine. That's what he is.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

I, I, I, I have no idea. Your guess is as good as mine. We've been trying to figure out what the Browns have been doing with their organization for a very long time. Not just this year, but the past 30 some years, especially at the quarterback position. They haven't got it right in a very long time. And, and still to this day, still to this day they still haven't answered that question. And no, the one that looks like it might be promising, they still have an issue with that. So it looks like what they're trying to do based on some of the things that we've, that we've seen some of the things that we've heard come out of, out of that, out of that locker room or that organization in general. They still don't think the person that is at the helm right now is the answer. They don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. I mean and I, I really hate to feel this way, but a part of me is like, yeah, we gonna let him start the rest of the season? Oh, Bears, Bills, Steelers, Bengals. If I should do all like, nah, I'm good. I already showed y' all what I can do. Put Dylan in there now, you know.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Matter of fact, nah, I, I Want him to play against the Bears. I want him to play against the Bills. I want him to play against the Steelers, because I want him to. I want him to show that I'm a competent quarterback.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Compete at the highest level as a rookie if given the right amount of time to prepare.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That's what I want. I want him. I want him to have.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, no, no, no. You, you. Oh, but this is not a mistake. They picked these games and they. Why couldn't you name it as the start of three games ago?

Why was it week to week? Because every. You know what? Every time he don't want to ask a question, he always say, well, I don't want to get into that.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't want to get into that. Cause they ask you, they ask him before, which is to do or go to start. Well, I don't want to get into that. Let's look at the film and all that, bro. You know.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Wait, wait, wait. No, no, no. That's not true. That's not true. Because after the first game and they asked him, is he going to start the next game, he wanted to see if he could do it again. What is he going to look like again? If you look bad, what's the first thing you think Fancy was going to do? He's going to put Dylan Gabriel back in there. That's. That's why he had to. All right, I don't want to answer that right now. I don't know. But Shador gave you no choice, man. Could you imagine after you play, after you played this game, after he played this, this last game, in the game before that, if he was the bench you to bench, shadow you to my losing your locker room at that. Hey, listen, at that point, I guarantee you one of the veterans would have spoke out. I guarantee you one of the veterans would've spoke out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They probably already speaking out.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I mean, it ain't get out. It ain't get out in the public yet.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no. I mean, you know, and I think the thing is, look.

The last thing that you want to do because Dylan is still your teammate. It's not his fault. You can never blame a player for an organization or a coach's decision. I can't. Oh, so I can't get mad at you. Cause they put his ass in there. I can't get mad. I can't get mad at him because this organization drafted him before me. That got nothing to do with me. I wish him the best. I'm gonna support him as best I possibly can. I Couldn't get mad at the guys they took before me. It wasn't their fault.

But I tell you, in a couple of years you're gonna wish you like, damn, I'm glad we took this guy in the seventh round. We probably should have taken him early.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So I, I'd never begrudge the guy because they didn't draft themselves. Dylan Gabriel didn't draft himself. All. I'm happy now and, and for me, I'm glad they came to this conclusion. Yeah. Did it take longer than I think it should have? Yes. I think most people believe that it took longer than what it should have, but at the end of the day, they got it right.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I wouldn't say it took longer than it should have. Dylan Gables was the third round pick on. Dylan Gabriel was their third round pick and he was the successor to Joe Flacco. So when Joe Flacco moved on automatically, Dylan Gabriel goes into the lineup and it's time to see what he can do. It didn't go well. It didn't go well. Now Shadora's time to see what they can do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That's all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And he's only gonna get better. I mean, he's gonna have some growing pains. He's not gonna. I don't, I don't see him throwing for 364 and four, having four touchdowns every game.

But I tell you what, all I need to see is improvement. All I need to see. And I saw some stuff late in the ball game that I saw the mistakes that he made earlier that he self corrected.

That's when you know a guy gets it. When you can self correct on the fly. Ocho.

Oh, he get it? Yeah. Oh, he, he definitely gets it all.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

All we want to see. I mean, excuse me. In that organization, as a head coach, as a gm, as teammates, not only improving week to week, but giving us a chance, give. Giving us a chance so we can compete week in and week out. That's all you want and that's all you. That's all you can ask for. Consistency. How consistent can you be offensively to give us a chance? That's it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. So you do. It's your ball. Pick it up and run with it, bro. Do what you do. You got four, you got the four. You got four games. These last four games is about, you know what? We got our guy. We got our guy.

Let's go in the draft and get a. An offensive lineman, a receiver.

A linebacker or. No, I like this linebacker, that rookie linebacker, number 49. He hail maybe get somebody. Go opposite of a get. I don't know. But Shador's job is to show them they don't need a quarterback. Yeah, that's his job.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yep.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And then build a team how they best. See, I don't know if we should trust them to build a team, but.

I just think the thing is, Ocho, is that we. We just show them. Show them that you got the right guy. Because he said it. I'm going to show him what. I'm what they've been looking for.

I'm what they've been searching. They've turned over a lot of stones.

And.

You know, sometimes, Ocho, you gotta kiss a lot of dragons to find your princess.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So they've had 35. They had damn near as many. Many quarterbacks as we've had u. S. Presidents. Yeah, but. But Shador said, it starts with me, it stops with me. No more. You're gonna have. You're gonna have peace and prosperity for the next decade.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I like it. I like it. Hey, matter of fact, yeah. Hey.

I. I'm wondering if the chat. The chat Heard about that, too. You. You heard about. Damn it. I mean, this is. This is sad for me. Mr. Cup. You heard about Mr. Cup?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, man. His wife left him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, lord, here we go.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah. Now he's a solo cup.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I knew it was something.

I knew it was something.

Ocho.

There might be some trouble brewing.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Where?

[Shannon Sharpe]

In Tennessee after the Titans win. Cam Ward told the media post game, it feels good to win, but you know what? But you know, winning still high stuff. There's a lot of flaws that we've got to continue to get over personally and just as a team. And I've got to. And we've got to just come next week with the right mindset. When asked about how badly they needed to win, he said, I really didn't need a win. I treat the wins the same. I treat the losses the same. There always something I have to do to do better. I wake up tomorrow, I'm going to do the same thing I did last week. Try and get better. 104.5 the Zone Morning, Ramon and Will Titan sideline reporter Will Bowling shared a story from the team playing on the ride home Sunday evening. On the plane home, Ocho ride home, Arden Key gets on the intercom and says, y' all enjoy this. Don't listen to what Cam said. Y' all enjoyed this. It's hard to win in this league. Enjoy it. Other Titan media member unhappy with bowling shared this Story. Surely the team is unhappy as well. There's a good chance he will not be on the plane moving forward.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, I'm confused.

So.

Cam, they. They won the game?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Now, what did Cam say exactly? Give it to me In, In. In. In layman's terms.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He. They asked him, how badly did they need to win?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I really didn't need it.

I treat wins the same. I treat losses the same. There's always something that I have to do better. I wake up tomorrow, I'm going to do the same thing I did last week, try to get better.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Okay, so he was even keel about it. He wasn't high, he wasn't low. He was just even keel about it. But I think you got to choose your words, right? You got to choose your words wisely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What you mean you didn't need a win, bro? You had lost like 15 games in a row.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, you got to choose your words wisely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

See, I. I think the thing is, he said. He's saying stuff that Tom Brady would say after five Super Bowls. He says stuff that, bro. I get it. I get it. Oh, man. Hey, I don't. I stay even. Kill. It's hard. Well, you'll find out. You'll find out. It's hard to win in this league. R key is right now, I don't agree with the sideline reporter because what stays on, what happens on the plane stays on the plane, right? What you see in the hotel room, you don't report that.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Listen, they ain't had much to report, so he ran with that one, huh? Of course, they had muster report this season, so obviously.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But. But for that kid to do that, I'm telling you, Ultra. And I told you that. I told you this when he said we. I'm telling you he better be careful. I told you when he said what he said for this gentleman to do what he did, you see what happened already? Don't y' all listen to. Don't y' all listen to Cam. I told you, Ocho, I'm not telling you what somebody told me. I'm telling you what being a leader is in a locker room, being a. A leader of men amongst men. I tell you he better be careful.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, you gotta. You gotta choose your word. Gotta choose your words wisely. Especially at the quarterback position, you have to be very PC. You got to be very PC. And that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That's a skill, too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It is a skill.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That's. It's a skill to be able to do that, you know, to be a quarterback and be Very savvy when it comes to the media and knowing how to answer questions without really answering them. Answer questions without really answering them. Hey, politicians are really good at that. Ask the president a question, he'll tell you. He'll. He'll talk to you for. For. For 50 minutes about everything else except.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What you asking about.

But the one thing we do know, everybody, even Tomlin, yes, we needed this win. We needed to get the stench of losing out of this room.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't say, oh, I didn't really need. I didn't really need a win. Yes, you do.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Right?

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Everybody needs it. That's why you work so damn hard.

Now I start to question myself, Ocho, why we doing all this? We ain't winning. What are we doing wrong?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What am I doing wrong?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And when you win after not winning, for. We didn't always win Super Bowls. Every year I've had a five, six game losing streak. I've had long losing streaks. Boy, when ain't nothing like it, feel like you. Hey. Feel like you won the super bowl.

Because you work put all that time in Ocho to win. And then when you don't, when it doesn't bear fruit, when that truth, that tree doesn't bear fruit, you're like, damn, okay.

And then when you win.

Oh, my goodness, after losing.

That'S just me. Hey.

But you know, he probably. He won all. You know, he won in. In college. And you know he's been winning. So take winning for granted.

To each his own. Whatever. But I'm telling you better be careful. I told you this. When he said what he said, he said, oh, okay. Oh, you better listen to me now. If I. I told you, I said, ocho, if I tell you grass would turn to cheese. I want you to quit Nightcap, start hustling crackles.

Now, I ain't telling you. Now, y' all save this. He better be careful.

You get a little grace because you're the quarterback. You're the first pick in the draft. Yeah, but those guys watching now, they watch it. And you can't fool them. You can fool the reporters, you can fool the fans. But them guys that see your ass eight, nine hours a day, Ocho.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, six months a year.

You ain't fooling them, you're not fooling. Yeah, but he has to be.

Here's what in him. Coach Mike McCoy on Monday said when asked about Cam's mindset. Yeah, you want to enjoy every win in this business. It's never easy. It's tough to win in the NFL week in and week out, but it's just. He's a competitor, and Cam wants to be great. He wants to play great every week. And there are times that if he don't. If. If you don't play that way, he's not going to sugarcoat it. Sometimes what he says is how he plays in and his opinion on things, but it's about winning. That's the number one thing. Rookie Marcus Harris spoke for the young core on. He's like, I think Cam. I think that Cam's mindset is. It was a good mindset, but then, as you know, some of the other guys expressing how difficult it is to win, and the other part is understood, but I think it's just holding ourselves to a high standard. And that's what it's all. All. That's what it was about, Ocho. Well, you met the standard. You won. Yeah, you met the standard. If the standard. If the standard is to win and you win, I get it. You done separate things in a loss. I mean, in a win that you wouldn't have lost. Yes, we understand that, but you have to build that. That's something we build to. Ocho, when you're not used to winning. There's a reason why the Titans got the number one pick in the draft, Ocho, because what did they do the year. The preview last year when.

Yeah, go ahead. What were you gonna say?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

No, that was it. That was it. You. You right, you're right, you're right. I mean, there's really nothing I can say.

About that. I mean, you just. You got to be able to navigate it a little better. A little better. He'll get a little savvy. Savvy. Savvier when it comes to talking to the media and answering his questions. But.

It'S been a rough year for them boys over there. Man. In Tennessee, boy, a lot about playing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Quarterback is how I navigate your word play. Everything. Can't be blunt. How you like, how like me and you might talk one way to the barber shop.

And then when I get. It's a whole different tune, right? That's how you have to be as a quarterback. Now. I know people. Hey, you be yourself. Be yourself. You can't be yourself.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, I mean, well, no, not at that position. At that position, you can't be yourself. Now you're a receiver. You could be yourself.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Xavier woods also talked about it today. We also told him wins are hard to come by in this league. You celebrate all of it, no matter who it Is or who it's against. You celebrate all wins. There is no such thing as a sorry win. A win is a win. At the end of the day. That's two teammates and his coach.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, whether you win ugly or whether you win pretty, the goal at the end of the day is to win. And they haven't won much this year. So.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That'S it. That's it. That's it. Ocho, you. You look. Like I said, if I could give this man any advice, and he probably don't want any advice. I said, cam, you have to be very meticulous with your words.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, that's another big word, huh? Wait, another. He had to be very what?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Meticulous with your words. Because what you fail to realize is that you. Everybody is listening to what you say. They listening to how you say it. They listen to the tone. They listen to the voice inflection. They listening for the cadence. What you say, that's a part about speaking. See, people think.

A lot of people can talk. Very few people can speak. There's a difference between the two. Don't let that go over your head.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I like. That's a good one right there.

That's a good one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Knowing what to say, knowing how to say it, knowing when to say it, knowing what to say and where and who is in the presence.

But like I said, he's young. He's young, but you have to, you know.

I know it's boring, man. I. I want to be. I get. I get boring.

But when you're in that position, it's okay to be boring. It's really okay to be boring.

Let your play be extravagant. Let your play be flamboyant. You right here, man. I'm enjoying this one. It's been a long time, man. It's been a long time since this locker room has been exuberant. To be excited. You see how these guys are behaving?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hold on. When it says the locker room. Been what?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Make it out of here.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Well, you've been in your bag tonight, boy. Meticulous, exuberant, copious. Let me write it. Let me write this down. Hold on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But it's good. He gonna be. Like I said, he'll learn. He'll learn. He'll get better at understanding how to talk, what to say, when to say it, how to say it. But he'll be. He'll be fine. He's learning. He's learning on the job. He's learning. He's. He's learning on the job.

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[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Matt Rogers / Bowen Yang (Los Culturistas)]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Matt Rogers / Bowen Yang (Los Culturistas)]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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What a matchup we got, y'. All. This is that classic HBCU vibe. Non stop action. The band is rocking and the crowd lit. Chance echo drum beat everybody showing that school pride. Game like this.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah. Calls for an ice cold Coca Cola.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ah, crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right there.

Yeah, that taste always hits the right note. Just like the band at halftime. And just like that, we're back at it. Passionate fans, school colors everywhere and an ice cold Coca Cola.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That's a winning combo no matter the.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Sport, no matter the yard. Everybody knows fan work is thirsty work. So grab a Coca Cola and keep that HBCU pride going.