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Julian Edelman
This is Julian Edelman from Games With Names. Now let's get into the serious stuff. We're talking football food, specifically Daisy French Onion Dip. These are so delicious. They're like homemade dips made with real herb and spices. Also made with some Daisy Sour Cream. Daisy Sour Cream is a long standing staple for Taco Tuesday. They also have Daisy Ranch diploma. So get out there and give Daisy French Onion Dip a try. You will not regret it.
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Co-host (Ocho)
Come on, you can't. Don't do that. You can't just jump on the bandwagon just because they won the game.
Host (Unk)
Now, come on now, Ocho, you do know my daughter got a doctorate degree from Indiana, right?
Co-host (Ocho)
But your daughter. Your daughter deserves the right to wear.
Host (Unk)
The shirt, not you. Why were you rooting for Miami? You didn't go to Miami.
Co-host (Ocho)
I was born in Miami. That's the only reason I.
Host (Unk)
Daughter. So hold on. You didn't play for the Hurricanes?
Co-host (Ocho)
I said I was born in Miami, okay?
Host (Unk)
My daughter. My money went to iu.
Co-host (Ocho)
Okay? I like. Hey, I like that. I like that. I like that.
Host (Unk)
Can you do that?
Co-host (Ocho)
H. Okay. Okay.
Host (Unk)
You know, that was a good game, though.
Co-host (Ocho)
That was a good game.
Host (Unk)
Very good game.
Co-host (Ocho)
Hey, let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. The playoffs, most of the time, we. We argue and we fussed about the teams that made the playoffs, but when it got down to the nitty gritty in the championship game, the two right teams were there.
Host (Unk)
Yes, the two right teams were there.
Co-host (Ocho)
Because this game was very, very good tonight. I would have loved for you. Him to do a little bit more offensively, especially in the first half, but I'm gonna let you. I'm gonna let you do the. Before we talk about. I'll let you go.
Host (Unk)
Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. As you watch the very, very exciting national championship game. The Indiana Hoosiers stand on top of the mountain. A perfect 16 and old record. They take down the Hurricanes by the score of 27 to 21. One of the great college turnarounds in college history. I don't know if we've had a better story than. Than what we have tonight. A team that's been a predominant bottle feeder for the better part of a hundred years. And here they are, kings of college football. Y' all know who I am. I am your favorite un. That is my partner and co host, the one that's very disappointed. He's been losing a lot to me lately. I can't wait till y' all see that video that we got coming out in a couple of weeks. My bad. My bad, Ocho. We ain't gonna talk about that. We ain't gonna talk about that. The Liberty City legend, he was born in Miami.
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Host (Unk)
He was rooting for the Canes. He's a little disappointed right now, but you know what? He could. He should not hold his head because they put up a very valued effort. Yeah, that is Chad Oo. Cinco Johnson, please make sure you Hit that subscribe button, please. Make sure you hit the like button. And do us a favor, go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed, wherever you get your podcast from. We would like to thank each and every one of you, not only joining us tonight, but so many nights before tonight. We. We cannot do this without you. Thank you. Thank you so much. Because of your eyes, ears and your word of mouth, Nightcap has become the phenomenon that has become, and thanks to you, we'll continue to grow and continue to thrive. So again, thank you for your support and your continued support. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shea by Laportier and you cannot find it in a state or city near you, head to laportierconjac.com to order your bottle of two. We have the original, the OG size, which is a 750. We also now have the Junior, which is a 375. It is a premium BSOP cognac, the best tasting premium BSOP cognac on the market. But don't take my word for it. Try it and compare it against other VSOP cognacs, other cognacs in general, and let us know what you think. We believe we have the best tasting cognac on the market. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Tickets for our super bowl live show in San Francisco are on sale now. The link is pinned in the chat. The show will be Thursday night, February 5, at the Earth's February theater in San Francisco Bay Area. We expect you to show up and show out again. The tickets for the super bowl live show in San Francisco, they are on sale now. That link is pinned in the chat. The show will be Thursday night, February 5, at the Earps Theater in San Francisco. Be there. You don't want to miss this one. The Indiana Hoosiers, Ocho, they did it. They won the national championship. My cousin. Who got that pick, Ocho, my cousin, Jabari Sharp.
Co-host (Ocho)
Hey, yo, man, you don't know him.
Host (Unk)
There you go. Now he ain't my cousin. Now he ain't my cousin.
Co-host (Ocho)
You know, you ain't no kid to him. You know, we. Hey, if that where you from, then where you from?
Host (Unk)
He a shark. That's all you need to know.
Co-host (Ocho)
Hey, hey. Actually, he from Miami. He from. He from down here.
Host (Unk)
I got some. I got some relatives down there.
Co-host (Ocho)
No, you don't.
Host (Unk)
I do. I got really down there. Down there. Down there and Cocoa Beach. All down. Yeah, down there. Cocoa Beach.
Julian Edelman
Yeah.
Co-host (Ocho)
Cocoa Beach.
Host (Unk)
Yeah.
Co-host (Ocho)
Ain't none of us down in no Cocoa Beach.
Host (Unk)
Whoa, whoa. Y' all hold on. Ain't like y' all inhabited. Like y' all landed on Miami. The Johnsons. Well, so now you not all y'. All. Johnson's in Miami.
Co-host (Ocho)
Yeah, listen, Flowers, Johnson, Rose, Franklin. Yeah, we don't we dominate down here in. In the side in Miami. Hey, matter of fact, I might be wrong. I'm asking probably check that. I think he is from Florida. Ash, if you could check that. You got to fact check me before people jump on top of my head now.
Host (Unk)
No, Jamari Sharp.
Co-host (Ocho)
Jamari Sharp.
Host (Unk)
I think he is Jamari Sharp. He undercut a deep rod. I don't know. I don't know if. If Beck was thinking he was going to back shoulder him or what because the receiver that last play.
Co-host (Ocho)
Yeah, you came back shoulder that in the safety in the middle of the field.
Host (Unk)
You got to be. That's got to be a sideline throw.
Co-host (Ocho)
He got to let that go. He got to let it go.
Host (Unk)
Oh, he went to my. He went to Northwestern. He is from Miami.
Co-host (Ocho)
He went to school with. He went. That's Teddy Bridgewater.
Host (Unk)
Yeah.
Co-host (Ocho)
Yeah, I knew he was from the.
Host (Unk)
Crib, but they won a national championship after what we thought many thought was a Cinderella season. Last year they went up. Last year they went up the first team. Aren't they the first team to go a perfect 16 0? No team has ever won 16 games. I think the most was 15. Clemson won 15 and I think LSU won 15. But now you got the college football playoffs. Now they won the Big Ten championship and they won three games in the college. In the playoffs. Now here we are, we have a team that's won 16 games.
Co-host (Ocho)
That's crazy.
Host (Unk)
Kurt Signetti, take a bow. What you've been able to do with this program in a short span of two years.
Co-host (Ocho)
Yes.
Host (Unk)
No. Nobody can boast what they've done. Look, I understand that there have been some program turnarounds, but. But not like this, Ocho.
Co-host (Ocho)
No, not that fast.
Host (Unk)
Let's talk about the game and we'll talk about the program of the luck. Okay, let me get Mendelza stack Mendoza was 16 of 27, 186. Kalon Black was 17 of 79. Roman Henry was 19 of 60. So they ran the ball 43 times. 4 buck 32. Carson Beck was 19 of 32, 232, one touchdown, one interception. Mark Fletcher Jr. Continued his heart. Heart, heart. Streaks, 17 carries, a buck 12 and two touchdowns. He took off that long 57 yard run to get him back in the game. Malachi Tony 10 catches, a buck 22 and a touchdown. Let's take Indiana first and then we'll talk about. Hey, go ahead, take it away.
Co-host (Ocho)
That goddamn. Listen. Fernando Mendoza. I had opportunity to see him in, in high school down here at Columbus High School. He was good. I didn't know he would turn out to be what he is now. Cuban American, obviously. His parents are from Cuba, his grandparents from Cuba. And I'm not sure is he. I mean, obviously he would be the first Heisman winner to be Cuban American born, Right? No. I mean.
Host (Unk)
Yes.
Co-host (Ocho)
Be the first, maybe the first Cuban quarterback to actually win also a national championship. I mean, he put that team on his back when they had to have it. That's fourth down. That was fourth down. Where he. That quarterback sneak.
Host (Unk)
Yes. Quarterback draw, I hear.
Co-host (Ocho)
Who called you talking about a ballsy call.
Host (Unk)
That's Signetti.
Co-host (Ocho)
Hey, listen, that's the one thing you don't expect with as far as they have to go to score. I wasn't expecting that.
Host (Unk)
Oo, it's 4th and 5. You're not even expecting them to go for it. My, my point is, let alone the play that they call.
Co-host (Ocho)
Hey, listen, listen, that was a great play. Mendoza right there when he got that ball and took off that, that moment in, in his effort to make sure I. I'm going to score by any means necessary and jumping and diving and just, you know, putting, putting him. Putting his body itself in harm's way, putting the ball in harm's way just to get that touchdown that lets you know how much this game meant to him to ensure that they did win the game.
Host (Unk)
Ocho, when you and I tweeted, I say that call forget, okay? You go forward on fourth down and you're in a dog fight and you know, you really haven't been able to stop Miami in the second half. So, you know, you're in a dog fight like. And points it at a premium.
Co-host (Ocho)
Yes.
Host (Unk)
So the mere fact that he went for it and then the play that he called to go to get it. Hey, I said, man. Signetti. Hey, Sigs walking around with. With. With pumpkins heavy.
Co-host (Ocho)
Heavy. Hey, Unk. That's slightly disrespectful. As good as, as good as the Hurricane defense played tonight. Obviously they. They were a. Ben, but don't break defense. You're going to make some plays obviously in the air, on the ground, you. You're going to have some plays. But to call the. That on 4th and 4, 4th and 5 and expect to get it at. Especially with that, with that, with that front four. I mean, come on man, that, that, that was a great call. That was a gutsy call. Very, very gutsy.
Host (Unk)
OO for this, the distance. For me, it was the distance. 4th and 1oo. I ain't got no problem with that.
Co-host (Ocho)
I get it. I get it.
Host (Unk)
Yes, we, we. You. I think you and I, in agreements to that. Fourth and one.
Co-host (Ocho)
You.
Host (Unk)
Yes, Ocho. That's fourth and five. Fourth and five. And then the play in which he called, nobody saw this coming because you're like, hey, this ain't no running down. And then for him, he breaks the tackle. He runs into another guy. Now he's got the first down to that point. He said, but I ain't satisfied. I'm greedy. I'm gonna get sweepstakes. I've already got the first. Let me. And he lays out. He knows he's gonna take it. He, he. And then he brings it back in. He takes the shot in the back. That was a hell of a call.
Co-host (Ocho)
Very.
Host (Unk)
I don't want to be a coach, but I just know this. I ain't going for it on the 4th and 5 in that situation. I'm taking that damn field goal. I'm just, I'm just being honest. Yeah, I'm taking the field goal and I think a lot of other people would have taken the field goal on fourth and five.
Co-host (Ocho)
And I'm. Trust my defense. My defense has played well all night. I'm going to trust my defense and let them, and let them finish the game off. But man, that, that was nice. Mendoza played really well. Goddamn. Cooper was balling. He had five for 71. Malachi. Tony did what he could offensively. They kind of, they kind of kept him balled up, especially in the first half. He. He got alive and they put Malachi in position to make some plays in the second half. But, but it, it wasn't enough. Carson Beck on that throw, I, I wish he would have let it out. Let it go.
Host (Unk)
I'm talking about let it go.
Co-host (Ocho)
Let it out there. It, it was almost like a Cover 2 look, in a sense, the corner stayed outside, knowing he had help on the inside. So that the, the, the, the receiver was kind of sandwiched. He was kind of sandwiched in a sense. I'm not sure why Beck chose to go that way.
Host (Unk)
And it's got. Oh, it's got to be one of those, right? It's got to be over here, cuz that Satan's coming now.
Co-host (Ocho)
Oh, yeah, he coming.
Host (Unk)
Yeah, now he's coming. Because if you, if you just throw it in the line in which he's on. It's going to be a collision, and he's going to have to hold on to it. I would have preferred, like you said, lead him, but I'll lead him over here, because if I leave. Leave it right here.
Co-host (Ocho)
Yeah.
Host (Unk)
That safety gonna bust his head.
Co-host (Ocho)
And in the simple fact. The DB was very smart. The DB was very smart on that. At the snap of the ball, he purposely used the sideline as his friend and widen all the way out. So the receiver had no choice but to go inside.
Host (Unk)
But release inside. Yes.
Co-host (Ocho)
So the receiver reached inside and it made it. It put. They put. They put the goddamn safety right in position where he wanted to be. The only way the receiver had a chance to make a play is if Beck let that thing go all the way out there. Like. Like. Similar to like a Randy Moss.
Host (Unk)
Yeah.
Co-host (Ocho)
Tom Brady, Durandi Moss type throw. I'm letting that happen as far as I can.
Host (Unk)
And knowing what they do.
Co-host (Ocho)
Yeah.
Host (Unk)
We threw the goal ball 42 and 4. The ball was 42 yards. Yards. 4 yards.
Co-host (Ocho)
Yeah, yeah, Yeah. Y' all had the red line back then.
Host (Unk)
I don't know, Ocho. Some people. Some people. Is. Is 44 and three something? I don't know, but I'm just saying, the way we did it. Yeah, it's 42 and four.
Co-host (Ocho)
It's the same.
Host (Unk)
Two yards deep, four yards. Is that what.
Co-host (Ocho)
Yes, it's the same. It's the same. You. Y' all had the red line, too, back then. Yeah, y' all had the red line.
Host (Unk)
What you say?
Co-host (Ocho)
Oh, y' all had the red line. You know, we had the red line painted on the practice field to let the receivers know the. The state. When you stack, you want to stack and stay on that red line, which was 4 yards from the sideline.
Host (Unk)
Ocho, I don't care where you release. You can release in there by the center. All I know is when. That. When that. When the ball. John's gonna let the ball go. It's gonna be 42 and 4. Yeah. So if you want to release inside, if you want to run a shallow cross and then get back out there, I don't care. Mike didn't care. Mike said you could release inside. You take the best release. But at the end of the day, I need your 42 and 4 and, like you said, a job immediately. If I get you, I'm stacking you. I'm not just gonna run and then hope. No, no, no, no. I'm gonna stack your ass, because now I can't have John to always have to make a perfect throw. Because if you don't stack him and you let that guy be in his hip, there's only one place John can throw it. It's gonna probably be a completion. And it's over here.
Co-host (Ocho)
Over here.
Host (Unk)
Because if he put it like here, he gonna chop.
Co-host (Ocho)
Yeah, yeah.
Host (Unk)
So I want him. And kind of like what Marvin Mills did. I'm. And if I have to slow down, you're going to have to come through.
Co-host (Ocho)
Me to get this ball. Yeah.
Host (Unk)
Oo. I thought they let him play tonight. Man, Miami was real handsy. Oh, yeah, they were. They let a play. Hey, listen, did they. I don't think they called the PI the whole night. Maybe I missed something.
Co-host (Ocho)
Listen, they. They played it fair, though. They played it fair. Not only did they let him play, they were very handsy. And obviously I. I see that as. That as a part of football. So they were handsy, but none of the hands. The handsiness impeded the receiver in being able to make a play. The time.
Host (Unk)
Well, I thought of some of those stock rocks. I was like, oh, my goodness.
Co-host (Ocho)
Hey, hold on, hold on. Did you see at the beginning of the game, number five for Indiana?
Host (Unk)
Yeah.
Co-host (Ocho)
Pond boy. But hey, hey, he nice.
Host (Unk)
Oh, yeah.
Co-host (Ocho)
Hey, he's very Denzel Ward, like.
Host (Unk)
Yes. He's quick. He got quick feet.
Co-host (Ocho)
Yeah. Yeah. I wasn't able to watch him the whole game, but just his technique and what he was able to do on that first play, I was like, okay, they get. They got something out there. I said, it's going to be a long night in the passing game, and if I. I don't. I don't have the stats in front of me, but if you look at how many yards the goddamn Hurricanes had at halftime, I understood it was going to be a long goddamn day.
Host (Unk)
Yeah. I mean, they gave up a block putt for a touchdown. You let them convert. I think they converted. Let me see. I know they. I think they converted two fourth downs on that one drive. Now, I'm not sure how, and I think. What? Didn't I say that was the first time they had gone for the fourth down in the college football playoffs. So in three games, just about everybody else was going for it on fourth down. They've been so efficient, they didn't need to. They were figuring getting everything they needed on first, second and third down. Three of 11. Okay. IU went for two, day, two for two on fourth down, Indiana, you know, excuse me. Um, three of 11 on. On third down. Ocho. That didn't help. IU was six to 15. They're normally a lot better than that. Penalty. Seven for 65 for 38, one turnover and Indiana dominated. Time of possession 36min. A little over 36 minutes to. To a little under 24 minutes for the, for the, the Canes. But when you look at what Signetti has been able to do, he came from, if I'm not mistaken, he was on the staff with you remember now, Ocho. He was on the staff with Coach Saban.
Co-host (Ocho)
He was even on the team too. Yes, man. Everybody come from up under that tree. Always had success for everybody.
Host (Unk)
Very smart. Lane, Kiffin, Loxley, Dan Lanning. Ocho, when you see that, when you see his tree. Ain't nobody in college football has ever had a tree. But like Nick, like Coach Saban.
Co-host (Ocho)
Yeah.
Host (Unk)
Yeah. Who else was. Who else was there? The guy that was at Florida, the head coach at Florida. He was there, if I'm not mistaken. I think he was the receiver coach. Oh, Crystal Ball was also on that staff.
Co-host (Ocho)
Crystal Ball too.
Host (Unk)
Yes. He was the O line coach. Dan Lanning was a grad assistant. Kirby Smart was the D coordinator. Mel Tucker was the DB Coach Loxley was there, was the quarterback's coach. All of them? Yes, all of it was there.
Co-host (Ocho)
It's. It's so funny. Everybody that'san. Everybody that's come under that coaching umbrella, up underneath Nick Saban has had success everywhere they went. Had some type of success everywhere they went.
Host (Unk)
Oo what Look, I understand, like some programs have been down, like what Jim. Jim Harbaugh was able to do with Michigan. But Michigan has always been Michigan. Yes, we know them from Coach Schembechler, although they never won a national championship, but he always had them in contention.
Co-host (Ocho)
Yes.
Host (Unk)
So what Jim Harbaugh was able to do, Revitalize a once dominant program. Indiana, their first Big Ten title in 58 years. I wasn't born the last time they won a Big Ten championship. The first undefeated season in 80 years. My mom was three years old. The first Hoosier to win a Heisman Trophy. The first ever national champion, first ever number one ranking. And probably Mendoza is probably going to be the first number one overall pick from IU.
Co-host (Ocho)
Absolutely.
Host (Unk)
Indiana National Championship included just eight, four and five star recruits, while Miami had 45, four and five star recruits. If you go look at their program, what they did, they took a lot of guys from lower levels, James Madison, that situation, and brought them in. Guys that are already proven, that's already played at the college level. Damn, that potential. Y' all might be good I already know. I've seen what you did at that level. Come on. Yeah, because we heard we had Serato here. He said, hey, I played with him at jm. He said, you know what? I'm about to. Yeah, let's go get it done. And those guys came there.
Julian Edelman
This, this is Julian Edelman from Games with Names. Now let's get into the serious stuff. We're talking football food, specifically Daisy French onion dip.
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Julian Edelman
Gotta try these delicious new dips from Daisy. These are so delicious. They're like homemade dips made with real herb and spices and other ingredients you'll find in your kitchen. Also made with with some Daisy sour cream. Daisy sour cream is a long standing staple for Taco Tuesday.
Host (Unk)
You know what I do when I.
Co-host (Ocho)
Get my street burrito?
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Co-host (Ocho)
Daisy.
Host (Unk)
Yeah.
Co-host (Ocho)
And every bite. I know you. I know you.
Julian Edelman
I'm a huge sour cream guy. I love sour cream. So I think burritos can't live without sour cream.
Co-host (Ocho)
I completely agree with that.
Julian Edelman
They also have Daisy ranch dip. I love ranch dip.
Co-host (Ocho)
It was great.
Julian Edelman
I love it. With crackers, wings, plain potato chip, the ones with the little crinkles, maybe some bell peppers. So get out there and give Daisy French onion dip a try. You will not regret it.
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Host (Unk)
This is the most impressive thing that I've ever seen in college football.
Co-host (Ocho)
How he was able to turn that program around so fast.
Host (Unk)
Yes, because even if you look at Auburn, Auburn is. Look, Auburn has had players. They had Bo and. And they had guys. Ronnie Brown and Cadillac Williams. They've had players. Andre Bruce was the number one overall pick in 1988. They've had players. What in prior to Cam, they had. They had Heisman Trophy winners. Bo won the Heisman. I think they had a Bo might been the only. Maybe Pat Sullivan, I think. Didn't Pat Sullivan win the Heisman Trophy? If I'm not mistaken? I think Pat Sullivan. They might have only two, but I think Sullivan won the Heisman Trophy. But we've seen nothing like this. Ocho. This is. This is. This is crazy.
Co-host (Ocho)
Yeah.
Host (Unk)
This is crazy. What IU was able to do.
Co-host (Ocho)
Yeah. In such a short amount of time.
Host (Unk)
And now with the College Football Playoff, Ocho. Well, if such and such had made it, they wouldn't have beat this team. If that would have did this, they wouldn't have beat that team. Well, they beat. They beat Ohio State. They beat Alabama. They beat everybody that. That you put in front of them to kick the ass.
Co-host (Ocho)
Beat them. Yeah. Hold on. They beat him convincingly. They didn't.
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Co-host (Ocho)
They didn't just sneak by. It was. There was no. No controversy. They beat everybody fair and square with no questions.
Host (Unk)
None. None. I don't know. We ain't. We ain't got nothing to really talk about from U M. Oh, I thought they got up to a slow start. I thought IU defense was playing a heck of a game. They was putting pressure on Beck, and then all of a sudden they couldn't get any more pressure on Beck and had. And I'm like, bro, on third and 15, you bring a corner blitz, that's the time you play zone. Now it's third and five, third and six. You rush three, drop eight.
Co-host (Ocho)
Huh?
Host (Unk)
Ooh. I don't care how. I don't care how many you drop. If you don't put pressure on the quarterback, guys gonna find dead areas.
Co-host (Ocho)
Hey, every time, man. Man, it's even easier. Zone, Zone. If. If. If you got you a very smart receiver, understanding scheme and taxes and what you trying to do defensively, it's easy to find the zone. It's just pitch and catch, pitch and catch, pitch and catch. Get your ass up field or get down. One of the other.
Host (Unk)
Get down. This was a heck of a game. This is what national. That ish. The ash alma mater got beat 65 to 7. And all these blowouts that we've had, that ain't what it's supposed to be. Nah, it's supposed to be this. You're supposed to be on. I don't know who's gonna win this game, right?
Co-host (Ocho)
And matter of fact, you know, I was upset. I wanted to take my. My son to the game. Obviously. I looked at ticket, I look at the tickets, everything. 5,000, $7,000, and I chose not to go to the game. I told my son, you know, probably the best seat in the house is probably sitting at home watching it from. From tv. But for those people that were able to go to the game, regardless of the price, this game today, regardless of how much the ticket was, it was worth the price of admission.
Host (Unk)
Are you sure this game was in Miami? Because I saw more. Way more red than I saw green and orange. Are you sure? Are you absolutely certain? Are you willing to put this on your 12 kids, that this game was in Miami?
Co-host (Ocho)
The game was in Miami. But.
Host (Unk)
So why?
Co-host (Ocho)
Can I tell you why? Can I tell you why?
Host (Unk)
Because.
Co-host (Ocho)
Because they priced all the real fans out. They priced all the real fans out. That mean obviously, the fans from Indiana, you know, hey, they know some people, you know, took their life savings. They took some money, they saved up, and they came and bought tickets.
Host (Unk)
And hopefully y' all ain't got no life savings.
Co-host (Ocho)
I mean, we do, but we ain't gonna spend it on that.
Host (Unk)
Oh, y' all know what the outcome gonna be?
Co-host (Ocho)
Nah, we nah.
Host (Unk)
Are you football?
Co-host (Ocho)
Oh, oh, now. Oh, now you're. Now you're a Hoosier fan all of a sudden?
Host (Unk)
Hey, don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. I just need you. Hey, you just. I'm a. You just go on the order that case. Just order gold. That case.
Co-host (Ocho)
What case?
Host (Unk)
Not what case, Chad. You see what I'm talking about? I'm gonna have to put that pistol in his mouth.
Co-host (Ocho)
Wait, I'm asking you what. I don't got no case.
Host (Unk)
Have to put that file on you.
Co-host (Ocho)
Oo, no, I'm asking you honestly, what case? I chat.
Host (Unk)
Y' all hear what he said now chat. He talking about what case?
Co-host (Ocho)
I ain't get in trouble. I'm. You talking about, like, when you say case. The only case I know about is, like, when you got a case. Like, what you mean?
Host (Unk)
I need you to order a case of Le Portier.
Co-host (Ocho)
Oh, man. Oh, I got you. Why you. Oh, hey, matter of fact, I'mma do it. I'mma do it. Hey, hold on. I'm gonna do it right now. Matter of fact, I'm gonna do it right now. Tell me how I order what I go to. Unc.
Host (Unk)
You ain't got.
Co-host (Ocho)
Hey, hold on. You ain't got to do that. I got you. I promise you I'm do. I'm gonna order right now. I just. Hey, hey. I need the website. What's the. What's the website? Unc, I don't want no problems. You heard me? I don't even like guns. I'm. I'mma order the case right now. I promise you.
Host (Unk)
No, don't worry about it.
Co-host (Ocho)
I got.
Host (Unk)
I got you.
Co-host (Ocho)
I got you. Twin. I. I put. Hey, that's on Nightcap. I got you. On Sweet Jesus on grandma Cookies. I got you. You know. You know?
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Co-host (Ocho)
I keep my word. That one thing about me, I. I always keep my word. Now, Uncle, you good over there?
Host (Unk)
I'm not.
Co-host (Ocho)
I got you. Hey, hey, send me the link. Send me the link for La Portier. Hey, un, you got to learn how to wear your shy. If you going to wear. You got to make sure can't nobody recognize you.
Host (Unk)
I don't know who un. I don't know who un.
Co-host (Ocho)
Who you. Who you with? 57 shy.
Host (Unk)
This. This shisty shape.
Co-host (Ocho)
Shisty Shay. Okay, okay. I like that. I like that. I like that. Yeah. I got. Hey, what's that in your hand? That's a baton or a golf club.
Host (Unk)
About to be 58 Savage.
Co-host (Ocho)
Okay, I got you. Hey, hey. What's the link to the Laportier? I'm for the order right now, and I'm gonna see. Hold on. I'm gonna do it right now. Hold on. Hey, baby, baby, I know you watching. Do me a favor real quick. Order a case of go to laporte.com. order what?
Host (Unk)
I got to order a case of Laportier.
Co-host (Ocho)
Order a case of Laportier with. With Chase, and then send me. Send me the receipt. Screenshot me receipt so I can send it real quick. Just let them know I. I'm. I'm on top of my bets. And I don't want no smoke. I don't want no issues. I want everything. I want the transition going into, you know, Super Bowl. I want that. That week to be smooth for us. And I don't want to know out. I'm gonna clear my debt.
Host (Unk)
I want problems.
Co-host (Ocho)
Huh?
Host (Unk)
I want problems.
Co-host (Ocho)
Now. I just said I'm gonna do it. I don't want no smoke.
Host (Unk)
I tried. I tried to be nice Chat. Y' all see, when you try to be nice to somebody, they take advantage of you.
Co-host (Ocho)
I just said I'm gonna buy it. I'm paying my debt.
Host (Unk)
The mere fact that I had to bring it, you supposed had already ordered it.
Co-host (Ocho)
Oh, I ain't know. I know you was gonna lose.
Host (Unk)
They lost. They lost 30 minutes ago.
Co-host (Ocho)
I know, but it came down to the last drive, and I forgot all about the bet we had. But I'm. Hey, I'm. I'm taking care of it right now, though, you know?
Host (Unk)
Hey.
Co-host (Ocho)
Cause. Cause I, I. I respect you, and I respect our bet. Because all I got is my word. And if I ain't got my word, I ain't got nothing. And I told you. I told you I'm gonna stick to my bet. And I'm ordering me. Let me see. Let me see. Let me see if she ordered the case right now, hold on.
Host (Unk)
Because there about to be two cases ordered. The one you order for laportier and the one. And the one Miami PD put on me.
Co-host (Ocho)
Oh, now you good. You good, you good? Listen, if you do something to me, I'm gonna tell Miami PD to let you go. But they gonna catch you anyway. Cause you ain't wearing your mask, right?
Host (Unk)
First of all, you owe me still 5,900.
Co-host (Ocho)
Hold on.
Host (Unk)
How.
Co-host (Ocho)
If I'm buying, I'm buying a laportier.
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Host (Unk)
You better stop. Oh, I ain't got nothing to do.
Co-host (Ocho)
Hold on, hold on. I gotta order the porte. And pay your 5,900.
Host (Unk)
You sure do.
Co-host (Ocho)
Yeah, well, you gonna have to get that in blood. What? Okay, now. Hey, I. I'm. I'm buying laportier. Hold on, hold on. Let me make sure.
Host (Unk)
Chat. Y' all see what this man trying to do? This man tried. This man trying to say since he buying a case, the 5900 is wiped out.
Co-host (Ocho)
But I thought that's what we bet on. The new bet was about. Was about the laporte.
Host (Unk)
Oh, no, no, no, no. Yeah, that was a new bet. The old bet didn't go away.
Co-host (Ocho)
Okay, okay, okay, so the old. Okay, I got you over 5,900. And I'm gonna bring cash to you at the live show in Santa Clara. I got you.
Host (Unk)
I know.
Co-host (Ocho)
You can't breathe in that, huh? No.
Host (Unk)
I don't know how. Pikmin.
Co-host (Ocho)
Well, it don't be that kind. It'd be the. It'd be the. You know, it'd be the thin one. You got the thick one.
Host (Unk)
Actually, I guess I need to call it by its real name before somebody talking about. I'm trying to be anti Semitic, because if you use the word shiesty, you know, somebody and. And might say, well, he. He's being anti Semitic. It's actually called a bella clava. That is the correct pronunciation of the garment that I had on. So forgive me. Anybody that took offense for me saying the word shiesty, I apologize. Oh, this bella clobber.
Co-host (Ocho)
No, that's not the way that. That's not the way it works.
Host (Unk)
We don't want. No problem.
Co-host (Ocho)
Okay. I know. I'm. I'm. I'm gonna educate those on the outside coming in, based on culture and where you're from. Certain things are called different names. And what you just had on your head is not a. A baba clot, it's a who.
Host (Unk)
Bella clava.
Co-host (Ocho)
I mean, man, I don't know about no bella cluba. I know about a goddamn shy, though. I know about it. I know about a beanie with the eyes out when it's time to go do a drill. You know that. That's it.
Host (Unk)
Yeah.
Co-host (Ocho)
All that other stuff they talk about, man, I don't.
Host (Unk)
You know, I don't. Because you. Like I said, people try to take anything that you and I say or any somebody from that's not from that, and they try to twist it and try to make more of what it. That it is.
Co-host (Ocho)
Right?
Host (Unk)
And they missed the entire point. So anybody that took offense to anything that I said, because, you know, you use that word and people like, oh, my goodness, he's being anti Semitic. Everything is anti Semitic now. So the bella clava that I had on the ocho and I was. We were going back and forth, we were having a good time. So anybody that took offense to me using the word shiesty, I did not mean to or intend to offend anyone. And even though that was not my intent, although intent only matters to me, if you took offense to it, I sincerely and humbly apologize.
Co-host (Ocho)
I'm. I'm confused how can a word offend someone on an item? A tier listed item that shouldn't really offend anyone at all.
Host (Unk)
It's a long story, Ocho.
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Host (Unk)
Qualifying credit required bills fire Sean McDermott.
Co-host (Ocho)
Poor. Oh, man, that's your fault, man.
Host (Unk)
Per ESPN research, only four teams in the super bowl era have. Have won a playoff game in six consecutive seasons. The 91, 9196 Cowboys won three Super Bowls. The Patriots, 2011-2018, won three Super Bowl. The Chiefs, 2018-2024, won three Super Bowls. The Bills, 2020-2025, did not play in a single Super Bowl. Now, I remember you and I had a discussion. Ocho. I posted it October 13th. I said, Ocho, he had trouble. You. You looked at me to my own. You think so? I said, absolutely, yeah, yeah.
Co-host (Ocho)
Look at the success he's had. He wasn't able to win. He wasn't able to win a Super bowl, but he was in goddamn contention every goddamn year. Two AFC goddamn titles, six playoff appearances, six playoff appearances, and you still fight him.
Host (Unk)
Look, look at the team. The Cowboys did it from 91 to 96. They won a play. They won one playoff game in six consecutive seasons. They won three Super Bowls. The Patriots did it from 2011 to 2018, three Super Bowls. The Chief, 2018 to 2024, three Super Bowls. The Bills, 2025, did not play in a single Super Bowl. I keep. I can't see. Oh, my goodness.
Co-host (Ocho)
So I, I got a question for you too. Matter of fact, chat, y' all could chime in as well. Now, you think about how. You think about the success the Buffalo Bills have had, obviously reaching AFC Championship game, making the playoffs in general. Right. So you the head coach.
Host (Unk)
Yes.
Co-host (Ocho)
You bring in a new voice, you bring in a new regime. You bring coaches offensively, defensively, and new special team coaches. Now, when you do that, are you further away from winning a Super bowl or do you believe you're going to be closer to winning one? Since you still have the same supporting cast and the same goddamn quarterback.
Host (Unk)
The, the. They believe the head coach had taken them, and I use the term all the time. They believe the head coach has taken them as far as they can go. They believe. Hold on, because here's another scenario. What is Sean McDermott's background? Defense.
Co-host (Ocho)
Yeah.
Host (Unk)
What has let him down every year in the postseason? Defense. Remember, he has scored 36. That lose to Mahomes. They, they score all these points come playoff time. The defense is atrocious. Now, he fired Leslie Frazier because if I'm not mistaken, what Leslie Frazier, his D coordinator, when they gave up that, that lead at a three point lead with 13 seconds. I think Leslie Frazier was his head coach and he wanted to keep Leslie On. But he wanted to call the plays, right? They fired Leslie Frazier. I saw this from miles away. I said, boy, if he don't get it done this year and everything had been removed. He was the best quarterback still remaining in the postseason. And it wasn't the hurdle that's befuddled them so many times before, which is the Kansas City Chiefs saw this coming. But when I said it, I remember the chat. The chat just. Oh, you. You just trying to get clicks. You just saying stuff. They ain't gonna fire that man.
Co-host (Ocho)
You was. You was right. Un. You was right. Listen, I. Listen, I'm. I'm.
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Co-host (Ocho)
You was right. I'm talking. You was dead on. You was dead on. And I. I didn't believe it because.
Host (Unk)
What that tell you about Harbaugh? What did I tell you about Harbaugh?
Co-host (Ocho)
But, you know, I kind. I kind of understood that. I could see that after 19 years, obviously things not going right and losing that game, I could. I could see More harbor getting fired, but I really couldn't see McDermott because of the success that they kept having in the post postseason outside of not winning a goddamn Lombardi. But you getting there. You knocking on the door every year. You knocking on the door every goddamn year. It just keep closing on you.
Host (Unk)
It ain't good enough. Oo. It ain't good enough. And guess what? You got to. You dominated that division. Now you're not going to dominate that division no more. You got to fight tooth and nail because the Patriots ain't going nowhere.
Co-host (Ocho)
No.
Host (Unk)
Guess what? Jacksonville they built to last.
Co-host (Ocho)
Yeah.
Host (Unk)
The Broncos, the Chargers, the Chiefs. If y' all think the Chiefs are going to stay down, you're fooling yourself.
Co-host (Ocho)
Oh, no. Absolutely not. You saw the enemy went back, huh?
Host (Unk)
I said I don't know if I know he was in. They asked the requested to talk to him.
Co-host (Ocho)
Yeah. It only makes sense. It. It only makes sense. It only makes sense to have him come back because they. They've had tremendous success when he was there. Hell, he shouldn't have left the goddamn building in the first place.
Host (Unk)
Well, he was not going to get the credit because they. Teams always say they want somebody that call plays, right? Nick Zariani didn't call. Matt Nagy did not call plays. Mike McDaniel didn't call plays. Guess who else didn't call play and had a job for 18 years. Who? That John Harbaugh. He was a special teams coach. See? Oo. If I want you, I can make every excuse to get you. If I don't, I'll make every excuse right. Not. I shouldn't hire you. That's how it works.
Co-host (Ocho)
I like. Hey, what that, that applies a lot more than just football. You hear me?
Host (Unk)
You do realize 80 of the people that get hired, the job is never posted. Hey, man, you know, hey, Ocho, you know, they hiring down there such and such. Really? Yeah. You. I mean, you interested? I put a word in for you.
Co-host (Ocho)
Come on now.
Host (Unk)
You know, they really ready. See, they ready to have conversation like this.
Co-host (Ocho)
You know, they're going to take care of each other. Now, come on, now.
Host (Unk)
Oo. And I ain't got no problem.
Co-host (Ocho)
Right?
Host (Unk)
But just. Oh, but I mean, if you take care of somebody, is that a. And you don't have to go through the process. Is that a DEI what you guys hate so much? Just curious.
Co-host (Ocho)
We ain't got to make it that. We ain't got to make it that kind of show.
Host (Unk)
Okay. I'm, I'm all for. Brandon Bean has only drafted two bro. Pro bowl players out of the 56 draft picks since he selected Josh Allen, James Cook, and Dawson Knox. Actually. And check this out, Ocho.
Co-host (Ocho)
Yeah.
Host (Unk)
Brandon Bean is actually getting a promotion. His new title is president of football operations. General manager. Gaining oversight of the coaching staff.
Co-host (Ocho)
Hey, so he just got a promotion.
Host (Unk)
Yep.
Co-host (Ocho)
It got the same position that I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm vying for in Cincinnati, basically. Or basically the same position that Matt Ryan has with the Atlanta Falcons. Am I correct?
Host (Unk)
Yes.
Co-host (Ocho)
And he, and he's only drafted two Pro Bowlers in the last 50.
Host (Unk)
Drafted since he drafted.
Co-host (Ocho)
Right.
Host (Unk)
Josh Allen.
Co-host (Ocho)
Only two. Okay.
Host (Unk)
So the mere fact that Josh Allen has been doing this. Oh, my goodness.
Co-host (Ocho)
Yeah.
Host (Unk)
Oh, my goodness. That's terrible.
Co-host (Ocho)
Yeah.
Host (Unk)
That is terrible.
Co-host (Ocho)
Player of operations. I'm trying to think, trying to think, man.
Host (Unk)
I don't, I don't. Look, like I said I didn't advocate for the man to lose his job. I don't want anybody to lose their job. But football is a, is a. What has he done for me lately? Business. And I'm just, I'm just looking at the landscape and I just see a guy just get can. I mean, he keeps hitting his head on the, on, on, on. On the ceiling. Right. So that's telling. So I, I, I think the Pulas, Kim and Terry Pegula, they're saying he's taking this team as far as he can take them.
Co-host (Ocho)
Right?
Host (Unk)
I'm not saying this as far as they can go. I'm saying they believe this as far as he could take them. A lot of the things that I said with John Harbaugh, with Steve Bushadi was thinking, we're further away. We're not getting closer. We're not.
Co-host (Ocho)
That sucks.
Host (Unk)
And you start hearing about the tension between Monkin and, and, and, and, and. And. And Lamar.
Co-host (Ocho)
Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, it always. It always. It always comes from somewhere, you know, And I know a lot of people got on. On Mike Preston about some of the things that he wrote, but obviously he wouldn't have anything to write if he didn't get it from somewhere. It always come from somewhere where there's smoke, there's always fire. Anytime you hear reports coming from inside the building and the one person to leak it out and get it out are whether they be.
Host (Unk)
Yeah, but I'm not.
Co-host (Ocho)
I'm not.
Host (Unk)
I'm. Look, I'm not surprised. And I. When he called that time out and when he did all this grandstanding, because he knows in overtime you don't get a challenge. Everything is challenged upstairs. So even in that situation, the booth was going to challenge it for him to call that reporter from the phone. Yeah, he wasn't trying to. He wasn't trying to talk about the fans. He was appealing to Kim and Terry Pagu.
Co-host (Ocho)
Matter of fact, didn't I say that when you said that? Yeah, I say you try. You try to save face because there's no reason to even. Even consult the reporter at that moment when you do all the talking you need to do at the goddamn podium. I said. I said it the other night. As soon as he. I mean, what are you calling the reporter for? Okay.
Host (Unk)
You're trying to give a prime example. Tony Dungeon to the Tampa. They lost the NFC Championship game.
Co-host (Ocho)
Yeah.
Host (Unk)
They lost the NFC Championship Game. And they made a move because they felt that Coach Dungey had taken that team as far as he can take them. What does he do? He goes to another team and he takes them to a Super Bowl.
Co-host (Ocho)
Yeah.
Host (Unk)
And he wins it with Peyton. That's what I'm saying. When I made the. The thing about Mark Jackson, I was like, what does Mark Jackson had to do about that? We have to do about this. He was head coach of Golden State Warriors. They had gone to the playoffs several times, but Peter Gruber and those guys had believed he had taken them as far as he can take them. Then come Steve Kerr. Four championships later. Whoop, there it is.
Co-host (Ocho)
Yeah.
Host (Unk)
And it's. So let me ask you this. Do you think Harbaugh and Stefanski regret committing to the Giants and Falcons so soon? Because this is the best court. This is the team that has the best quarterback available.
Co-host (Ocho)
Can they back out or. No?
Host (Unk)
I'm.
Co-host (Ocho)
I'm. I'm just asking. Can they back out?
Host (Unk)
I mean, probably drown the contract.
Co-host (Ocho)
Now listen, Harbaugh hasn't signed anything yet. Wasn't there some language? He still.
Host (Unk)
Mike Tomlin.
Co-host (Ocho)
Now we. Now we talking. But I don't think Mike wants to coach anymore. I don't. I don't think he wants to coach anymore. I. I think he wants to sail off into the sunset even though it. It. It's not ending on the term that he would like. Yeah, but you know who I can go over there and coaching? Buffalo.
Host (Unk)
Who?
Co-host (Ocho)
Someone who knows the game, the ins and outs.
Host (Unk)
Bill Belichick.
Co-host (Ocho)
Nope.
Host (Unk)
Who?
Co-host (Ocho)
Shannon Emmanuel Sharp.
Host (Unk)
Oh, man.
Co-host (Ocho)
Yeah. I'm just telling you again, I couldn't do no podcast. I do it for you. Don't worry about it.
Host (Unk)
What it's gonna be called?
Co-host (Ocho)
Ocho and what gonna be called. It's gonna be called Nightcap.
Host (Unk)
Ocho and what?
Co-host (Ocho)
I mean, I don't. Ocho in the chat. That's it. That's all I need. Just me in the chat.
Host (Unk)
You gotta have somebody to battle something off of.
Co-host (Ocho)
Ash. Ash gonna take your spot.
Host (Unk)
Oh, you talking about yourself for three hours? Two and a half. Two hours. Two and a half hours.
Co-host (Ocho)
Oh, yeah, but let me. Let me take a nap. I take a nap. But you know, I get to talking and won't shut up.
Host (Unk)
But you got to have somebody you look, look. I commend Colin Cow Herd because Colin Talk basically is him. But I mean, yeah, he has Jason McIntyre, but mainly it's just him.
Co-host (Ocho)
Yeah, he just go. Yeah, he just go.
Host (Unk)
I mean, you need somebody. You need a. A differing of opinion. You need to have somebody else thoughts on something. And that's why you and I work. We're totally different. We see some things eye to eye, but when we disagree, we really disagree. I mean, we dynamically opposed all the.
Co-host (Ocho)
Way on the other side.
Host (Unk)
Yeah, man, you in Africa and I'm way in Russia. But that, but that. That works. Look, I think everybody got what they want. Harbaugh wanted a situation. He wanted $20 million a year. He want to save the roster and he only has to report to the bars and the Titians, right? 50. 50 owners of the Giants. Stefanski. I. I don't want to doubt Mr. Blake because Mr. Blake is he. He's been great, right? Mr. I. Look, Mr. Blank, y' all ain't gonna. Y' all ain't gonna make me Say Nothing bad about Mr. Blank, because what he did, he gave Raheem, hired Raheem. He supports all the black colleges. The. The. The. The black college. The Black College hall of Fame.
Co-host (Ocho)
Yeah.
Host (Unk)
He funded that. All these black colleges that got new field, Savannah State and Mo and all those. He did that.
Co-host (Ocho)
Yeah.
Host (Unk)
So y' all ain't gonna make me say nothing bad about him. So even though he hired Kevin Stefanski and I'm like, damn, it's not like, stuff you hired, you know, a young Koji Belichick, I do believe he could have got someone better. Now, he might make Stefanski, might make me eat my word, but I believe Clint Kubiak and I believe some of these other guys are equally deserving. Right now, I would like to see Kubiak in Baltimore with his imagination.
Co-host (Ocho)
Right.
Host (Unk)
With Lamar Jackson. He's going to attack every area on the field, vertically and horizontally, and he gonna run the ball.
Co-host (Ocho)
Yeah.
Host (Unk)
What does San Francisco do? What do the Rams do? They're gonna run the football, and they got a guy that can run the football. And then when Lamar Jackson pulled that ball out, guys are going to be so wide open because they're going to get. They could be so tired of. Of Derrick Henry.
Co-host (Ocho)
Yeah.
Host (Unk)
I just. I'm. I'm. I'm surprised that Stefanski was the second coach hired. I. I really am, to be honest.
Co-host (Ocho)
H, man. Listen, I. It's hard for me to know why. I'm not sure when he had the interview. The interview must have went extremely well based on him having the, you know, the last four seasons, being losing seasons, only winning eight games in the last four years. I'm not sure why he was hired, but there's something that Arthur Blank saw in.
Host (Unk)
In him or Matt Ryan, because Matt Ryan was in. Was. That's Matt Ryan, that fault. President of football operation.
Co-host (Ocho)
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm.
Host (Unk)
That follows up under his purview.
Co-host (Ocho)
Yeah, I'm not sure. I'm not sure.
Host (Unk)
But who knows? Maybe Sean McDermott look at the level of success that he's had, maybe he pops back up and now he's in the hiring cycle. All I know is this. I'm a little leery. If your level of expertise is on any side of the ball and you become a head coach and that side struggles. Sean McDermott's defense struggled.
Co-host (Ocho)
Yeah.
Host (Unk)
If you're an offensive coordinator and your team putting up 15 points a game, averaging 300 yards. Nah, bro.
Co-host (Ocho)
Nah.
Host (Unk)
No, no. So. Oh, y'.
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Host (Unk)
We have breaking news. The Titans are working on to Finalize a deal to have 49ers defensive coordinator Robert Salah as their next head coach. Salah spent Monday in Tennessee with the Titans and the two sides impressed each other enough to move forward. We knew something, it was trending in this direction when they moved it. They said they pushed it back because he was supposed to do the interview via Zoom on Sunday. They pushed it back to Monday because they wanted to do this in person. That was the first hit. They were kind of leaning towards Robert Sala. So I'm not surprised by this. I think you'll do great defense, but everything is predicated. Who's going to be your offensive coordinator? Who's going to be in your young quarterbacks here? Yeah, because we know he can play, he can dial up defense and he's got a lynch pin. He's got a guy that you can build a defense around and that's Jeffrey Simmons.
Co-host (Ocho)
Yeah, I mean, listen, you know, I've played around with just the thought of Jeffrey Simmons, you know, being down in Cincinnati, but I think that might have sell right now. Yeah, I don't think the Titans are letting Jeffrey go. But. But Robert Salah is a great, a great addition, a great head coach, a defensive mind, and I'm sure he's going to get those boys playing up to par and up to speed on the off end. Cam Ward being the future of that organization. Calvin really coming back. I. I still think they need some more weapons. Po Po is good, but I'm sure they can use someone else, you know, back there in the backfield. But they need another receiver. They need another, another dog to go along with Calvin Ridley who's coming off of injury. So we're not sure what he's going to look like. They need another security blanket for Paul Cam Ward out there. So I mean the Titans are doing what they need to do. I'm sure Robert Salah going to. I'm not sure how much control and say he has in. In the roster and, and wants, you know, to pick as far as the draft and then offseason acquisitions goes. But they, they can make a change. They can make a change. They might be the team similar to this year's Carolina and Bears. You know, Bears, you know, choices that I went before the season started with team to look out for. It could be Tennessee next year depending on what they do in the offseason and what they do in the draft.
Host (Unk)
Robert Solid would now be joining his third AFC south team of his career. His first job was with the Texans from 2005 to 2010 and he also spent time with the Jags from 2014 to 2016 as the linebackers coach. And now he's the Tennessee Titans head coach. Texas head coach Dico Rides and new Tennessee Titans head coach Robert Sala, Both were former 49ers defensive coordinators, are now head coaches in the same division and will square off twice a year. They came the Shanahan staff, they were all on staff. I don't, I don't know if, if, if the Miko was on the staff with Coob Kubiak when he was in Houston, because Cool was the head coach at Houston and Kyle was his, his, his, his offensive coordinator. But a lot of these guys was with, with Cal when he was in Washington. Sean McVeigh, Mike McDaniel, Raheem, all those guys. So I like this. So do you believe Robert Salah is the right hire for the Tennessee Titans?
Co-host (Ocho)
Oh, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, he's the deepest of mine. And like you did say they can build defensively great because you, you had that nucleus down there in Jeffrey Simmons. I, I'm more focused on what they do offensively.
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Co-host (Ocho)
I am more focused on what they do offensively.
Host (Unk)
And so, yes, I'm with you.
Co-host (Ocho)
Yeah. And surrounding Cam Ward with more weapons. More weapons. He could work with Cap. With Calvin really coming back off injury, we don't know what Calvin Ridley we're going to get. So I'm hoping with the off season acquisitions that they do bring in and what they do in the draft is very, very important for the growth of Cam Ward defensively. I think they're going to be fine. Especially when you get a coach like Robert Salah coming in, coming in that building. I think they're going to be okay.
Host (Unk)
Yeah, I, I agree. I think they probably need some offensive line help too because Cam Ward was sacked a lot. Where did Cam Ward finish as far as sacks? Because I, I don't care who your offense coordinator, you can't protect the quarterback. You can't win in this league. Yeah, it's hard, it's really hard when your quarterback getting, getting, getting punished. Robert Salah, he was tied for the most sacks in the NFL. So that's where you start. Ocho. Yeah, he got sacked 55 times. And remember he missed the game. Right. Whether. Oh, he got hurt the last game of the season. Okay. So, yeah, 55 sacks, you ain't gonna make a living.
Co-host (Ocho)
Yeah.
Host (Unk)
You ain't gonna play long. You keep getting 55 times like that.
Co-host (Ocho)
Yeah. I mean, so I was right. I was right.
Host (Unk)
I Was right. Okay. Solid jets tenure. He had Zach Wilson, he had Aaron Rodgers. But I think he needed this year to rehab his. His image. Right. Because it's hard to go from the jets head coach and just go get another job.
Co-host (Ocho)
Yeah.
Host (Unk)
Most of the time when people lead the jets, they. They ain't really going too many other places.
Co-host (Ocho)
Not at all. But I think everyone deserves a second chance. If you have to coach at the jets, if you got the coaches of jets and that organization that hasn't done anything worth the damn in a very long time, you deserve a second chance.
Host (Unk)
I think. Parcels. Parcels left the jets and ended up going to coach the Cowboys.
Co-host (Ocho)
This was.
Host (Unk)
This was before Coach Belichick was going to be the head coach because he was supposed to take over coach Coach Parcels. But he didn't want to do that because he knows the jets was on some bull jive. And they ended up having to trade a first round pick to get Coach Belichick to go to New England, which was the best first round draft pick the Patriots have ever spent. That is the best draft pick that they. They've used and it wasn't for a player. It was to get Coach Belichick.
Co-host (Ocho)
And it worked out perfect, bro.
Host (Unk)
Yes. Get some old line. Get some o line, some old lineman to protect. Cam. I agree. You need another receiver to go opposite of. Really. Hopefully he can come back to what he was. Probably. You get your running back, Ocho. Probably the third or the fourth round.
Co-host (Ocho)
Yeah. Got some good ones out there now and then.
Host (Unk)
And you got to get some defense. You got to get somebody to go along with Simmons.
Co-host (Ocho)
Hey, Legerious Sneeze should be healthy coming up. Coming. Coming back this, this year, huh?
Host (Unk)
Yes, yes, yes.
Co-host (Ocho)
We. You get him to playing like he played when he's at Kansas City. You know, get him. Get him back. Right. Man, they should. They should be fine.
Host (Unk)
Oh yeah. Rex Ryan went to the. Rex Ryan went to the. Of the Bills. But Rex. Rex had success. Rex what? Went to back to back AFC championship games because remember that year he knocked out Peyton and he knocked off a Tom and they ended up losing the Pittsburgh. Yeah. Hey, that's the AFC championship game.
Co-host (Ocho)
That's when they had that crazy defense over there with the Jets.
Host (Unk)
Oh yeah, they had Crow and Rebus, Bart Scott. I think they had Muhammad Wilkinson.
Co-host (Ocho)
Hey, that front, that front four they had there.
Host (Unk)
I think Calvin Pace was on that team too.
Co-host (Ocho)
Boy.
Host (Unk)
David. What was the linebacker? David. Was it David Baker? David, how they had a linebacker number 52?
Co-host (Ocho)
I don't remember.
Host (Unk)
They had some. They had some. They had some thumpers. They had some thumpers. And they could get up. They could get after the quarterback.
Co-host (Ocho)
Yeah.
Host (Unk)
They would run the football with Thomas Jones and those guys, and Damian Woody and Mango, rest his soul. They did a great job of mauling people. But the Giant, the Jets, do we know who the Jazz hires? Oh, oh, Eric Glenn is still there. He's still there. He can't have another season like he had last year, though. Okay.
Co-host (Ocho)
No, no, you can't, because, you know. You know, the lease is short. You know, the lease. The lease is short. You see what happened with Raheem. You see what, hell, McDermott. I mean, Harbaugh. And they want instant gratification. They want instant success, and that's not what you're going to get. I mean, those owners over there, especially with the jets, you got to learn patience. You got to learn patience because in order. In order for the head coach to have success, you. You got to have the product on the field.
Host (Unk)
Right?
Co-host (Ocho)
You know, you think about all these coaches that are having success and winning all these games, and, I mean, you say, oh, it's coaching, but coaching, you can only coach so much. You still need the. You still need the players to be able to perform. You still need the players to be able to execute the X and nose. The better. The better the players you got, the easier it is to goddamn implement a game plan. And when it's time to play somebody.
Host (Unk)
I agree.
Co-host (Ocho)
Now, you got players, you gotta. You gotta. You got to do certain things to help them get open. You got to hide. You got to hide their weaknesses, and that's difficult, man.
Host (Unk)
Yeah.
Co-host (Ocho)
Then you get exposed as a coach because, well, look what I'm working with. And the coach can't say that.
Host (Unk)
It'S. But I think the thing is, Ocho, is that you oversell to get the job.
Co-host (Ocho)
Yeah.
Host (Unk)
You make all these promises, I can coach this guy. I can get so much better in this, and blah, blah, blah. And then the owner's like, what happened? You said you could, bro, I was just saying that. I was selling you. I was selling myself to you. I really couldn't do it, not with what you got.
Co-host (Ocho)
Hey, you know that. That's how it'd be when you first meet somebody, huh? You know, you're not meeting the actual person, you meeting their representation. I'm trying to put my. I'm trying to put my best foot forward to make sure I don't lose the opportunity. I want this job as a jack, actually.
Host (Unk)
That's your agent. They meet your agent, because that person is telling you everything. What's so great about the person that you really haven't met yet?
Co-host (Ocho)
Come on now.
Host (Unk)
We're gonna have this conversation later. They died. But I'm just saying, when you meet somebody, that's the agent.
Co-host (Ocho)
Oh, that's it.
Host (Unk)
Because you know how an agent sell.
Co-host (Ocho)
Yeah.
Host (Unk)
Whether, whether you're in Hollywood, whether you are football, basketball, baseball, or whatever the case may be, your agent will always tell you great things about said individual that's looking to get this job.
Co-host (Ocho)
And it's all about rep. Hey. It's all about representation. And anytime you meet someone new, you are meeting a representative. Always.
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Date: January 20, 2026
Host: Shannon Sharpe (“Unk”)
Co-host: Chad “OchoCinco” Johnson (“Ocho”)
This episode of Club Shay Shay’s “Nightcap” takes place just after a historic College Football National Championship and a day of major NFL coaching shakeups. Shannon Sharpe and Chad “OchoCinco” Johnson bring their candid, lively analysis to three main topics:
Throughout, the hosts offer stats, personal insight, and their trademark playful back-and-forth – blending serious analysis with locker-room banter.
Both hosts acknowledge the high quality of the title game and Indiana’s improbable run, transitioning from “bottom-feeder for the better part of a hundred years” to “kings of college football.”
Kurt Signetti’s Impact:
The quick transformation under Coach Signetti is lauded as among college football’s most impressive, with Shannon calling him out specifically:
Recruiting:
Indiana was built with only eight 4-and-5 star recruits (vs. Miami’s 45). Players from lower levels (e.g., transfers from James Madison) played key roles.
Both hosts highlight the gutsy play by QB Fernando Mendoza on a critical 4th-and-5, referencing his Cuban-American heritage and local roots:
Shannon Sharpe (Unk):
News breaks during the show: 49ers DC Robert Saleh is finalizing a deal with the Titans.
Unk and Ocho agree Saleh is a good fit, especially for the defense, but stress that his success will hinge on his pick for offensive coordinator and his ability to develop young QB Cam Ward.
Key fact: Saleh now faces fellow former 49ers DC DeMeco Ryans (Texans HC) twice yearly in the AFC South (56:13).
| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |---|---|---| | 04:11 | Unk | “A team that’s been a predominant bottle feeder for the better part of a hundred years. And here they are, kings of college football.” | | 09:51 | Ocho | “Fernando Mendoza… Cuban American, obviously… He put that team on his back when they had to have it.” | | 10:30 | Ocho | “[QB draw on 4th and 5] That was a gutsy call. Very, very gutsy.” | | 12:24 | Unk | “He breaks the tackle… Now he’s got the first down to that point. But I ain’t satisfied. I’m greedy. I’m gonna get sweepstakes.” | | 20:12 | Unk | “Indiana, their first Big Ten title in 58 years… first ever national champion, first ever number one ranking. Mendoza is probably going to be the first number one overall pick from IU.” | | 25:14 | Unk | “They beat Ohio State. They beat Alabama. They beat everybody that you put in front of them to kick the ass.” | | 37:49 | Unk | “Only four teams in the Super Bowl era have won a playoff game in six consecutive seasons… the Bills did not play in a single Super Bowl.” |
This episode of “Nightcap” delivers a sweeping, energetic look at one of college football’s most remarkable championship runs, while weaving in two significant NFL coaching changes. Shannon Sharpe and Chad Johnson’s chemistry ensures a balance of entertaining rivalry, sharp football breakdowns, and broad commentary on coaching, leadership, and culture—in football and beyond.
Whether you’re an Indiana fan basking in glory, a Bills supporter bewildered by another reboot, or a Titans fan wondering what’s next, this episode provides critical context, laughs, and plenty to chew on between plays.