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Nightcap - Hour 1: Grizzlies beat the Mavericks to become the 8 seed, & Miami wins a thriller in Atlanta to face Cleveland in the first round!
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Hello ladies and gentlemen and thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap brought to you by Boost Mobile. Visit your nearest Boost Mobile store or boost mobile.com to join their nationwide 5G network today. I am your favorite UNC. Shannon Sharp, number 85, Liberty City's own Bingo Ring of Fame honoree, Pro Bowler All Pro. That's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. And we have a special guest tonight, 1/3 of RCM. Mitch Richmond joins us. The great Mitch Richmond, the Golden State Warriors Sacrifice hall of Famer. Mitch Richmond, Golden State Warriors, Sacramento King. You do it on both ends of the court. Thank you for joining us. Mitch, we're going to get right to you in just a second. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit that like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you. Thank you so much for your support. Thank you so much for your continued support because thanks to you we get to do what we do. So thank you again. Make sure you check out Shay by La Portier. We do have it in stock now. If you cannot find it in a city or state near you, order it online. We will ship it directly to your door Please drink responsibly and stay safe out there. Go follow my media company on all of its platforms. Shay Shay Media and my clothing company with 84 being spelled out everything is restocked. The link is in the chat. Supplies are limited and once they're gone they're gone. So please grab yours while supplies supplies Last Tickets for our Not Safe for Work tour went on sale a couple of weeks ago. Eight stops. Be more Philly, Charlotte, LA, Miami, NYC, Chicago and Detroit. Tickets can be found at shayshaymedia.comTour shayshaymedia.com Tour that link is also pinned up in the chat. Guests are lining up really well. Come out support your favorite Uncle Ocho. We can't wait to see you guys there. The Grizzlies are the eight seed. They will face the OKC Thunder with a 12106 victory in the last final play in game. The Grizzlies were great. Jaren Jackson 24, Zach Edie 15 and 11 John Morant 279 and 229 and 7 Desmond Bane 22 Scottie Pippen Jr. 13, Aldama 11 Boy AD came to play tonight. Rich I know you watched this game Mitch. AD came to play. PJ Washington played 27 minutes. He and I had the same number of points. I was on a Flight Zero. Derek Lively played 20 minutes. Derek Lively the second played 20 minutes. He also had the same number of points that I had. And you had Rich, Mitch and you had ocho zero points. Martin, Caleb Martin, he played 11 minutes. I scored him. We both had zero points. Vincent Dinwiddie, he didn't get in a whole lot. He played four minutes. Zero points. Yeah. Dante Exum, he played 13 minutes. He had three more points than a 57 year old with two replace hips. You're not going to win when you get that kind of production when you get two starters. Mitch and you know this, you get two starters and they play 20 plus minutes and you and you think you're going to be the team on the home court. That's not going to happen. What did you like about what you saw from Memphis tonight Mitch and what didn't you like about what you saw from the Dallas Mavericks?
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Unknown
Well, for Dallas I don't think everyone came to play for sure. We just mentioned that and Davis did need a lot of help today. He should have would have. I mean I think if he'd have had Kyrie it would have looked a lot better. But they didn't have anyone that could really kind of take anybody off the dribble Other than Williams, the point guard that comes off the bench. So they had a lot of trouble just really kind of creating their own shots. And Anthony Davis is the best at creating the shot for one of the biggest mans that's in the game. But for the Memphis Grizzlies, man, I like what I saw. You know, they had a balance, scoring. Everybody came to play. And I'm looking forward to this next series because they match up very well with okc. But okc, you know, has been the team all year, so it's going to be how they play.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
When you look at this, and I agree with you, I think they match up because they got a big Zach Edie go seven four. You got Jaren Jackson. So when they put their two bigs out there, Hartenstein and Chet Holmgren, you got a great matchup. The question is, can Zach Edie go outside and defend at the paint? Because Chad Holmg is going to spend a lot of time. He's going to drag him out the deep. So if I'm thinking I'm going to put ziti on Hardenstein because I know Hartenstein is no threat for him to shoot no three shots, three point shots, I ain't worried about him. I'mma put Jaren Jackson on Chad Holgren because he can slide better. He's more mobile, he's more agile, and he's a threat on the offensive end because I got to take some of that zap out of him on the defensive end by making him play defense. So his offense suffer as they go there. But I agree with you, when you look at the balance score and you had three guys that gave you at least 20 in your starting lineup, every six guys played double figures, and they didn't play a whole lot of minutes. Jared Jackson played the most minutes, 36. All the rest of the guys, 32, 33, 33, 30. So there's not a whole lot of exertion going on. I don't know when they. When they play. When is the game? Sunday, Sunday or Monday?
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Unknown
Sunday, Sunday.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So they got. They got a. They got a quick turnaround.
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Unknown
Yes.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But hey, I'm in the playoffs. I like this matchup. Oh, you watching this game? What. What'd you like? What. What you think about what you saw from the Grizzlies?
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Ocho
Well, well, listen, from the Grizzlies, they played really well. Bane phenomenal. Ja gonna do what JA does. Everybody else, collectively, as a group, everybody contributed, Everybody scored. On the other side of it again. Again, it makes Nico look ridiculous. Now, I understand Davis I mean, Anthony Davis had the game of his life. He had 21, 20, some, 20 some points at the half, had 40 at one point. I think might have been the third or the fourth quarter, but nobody else showed up. PJ had had a donut at the half. Klay Thompson really wasn't getting any shots in the, in the first half. He showed up a little bit in the second half, you know, creating shots, doing what he does down in host in the block. But still nobody else showed up for the Mavericks. Anthony Davis, obviously having to be hero with no help tonight is why they lost the game.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, he gave you 49, two or still in the block. And that's what's most disappointing. I think AD Acquitted himself very well, but nobody's surprised by AD playing like this. I don't care if Jaren Jackson was a defensive player of the year, AD gonna score on anybody. We've seen him against some of the best, be it Nikola Jokic, be it against Giannis, be it against Joel Embiid, Anthony Davis. This is what frustrate people about him, Mitch, is that we see him give Joel Embiid a 40 piece. We see him drop 40 on YIC, we see him give 30, 40 to Giannis, and then all of a sudden he'll come up and play a game where he have nine points and eight rebounds and we like, what the hell, A.D. i'm not surprised that A.D. had a 49 and two game. No, nobody should be because he's that good. The problem is he's not consistent as he should be given his ability. He could put the ball on the floor, he can finish at the rim, he can play with his back to the rim. He's a three level, he got a mid range, he can shoot the three. Now, he's not great at it, but he can get to the free throw line. That's what is sometimes frustration frustrating about AD is because you see what he's capable of when he comes to play. Go ahead, Ocho.
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Ocho
Well, listen, listen. I'm not a professional basketball player, but I do got eyes and I do have common sense. AD didn't have a choice but to play like this night, huh? The nights when he does have nine points, he has help. He has help to make up for the production that he doesn't have on those nights that he's off. Now, a night like this, when nobody else is helping and scoring and putting the goddamn ball in the hoop, he don't have no choice but to have a night like this. And he's one of the few players in the NBA that can take over a game that's a three level score. He can shoot from three. He not that high. Efficient. He ain't no goddamn Steph Curry. He got mid range. He could take your head down in the block too. Whatever you want to do. So in order for them to have any type of consistency until they get the big dog back and this we talk about next year and obviously have some other help collectively, it's going to be, it's going to be a long. It's going to be a long time before grace is given to management.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Ocho
For the choices and decisions that they made. And shipping Luke out. Because could you imagine how in the hell we ship Luke out based on some stuff that had nothing to do with off the court? And the stuff that he does on the court is going to continue to show up for the next decade somewhere else when it could have been us. When he just took us to the goddamn finals last year.
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Unknown
Right, right. Yeah. I mean I think what we talk about, AD man, AD is the first ballot hall of Famer, no doubt about it. But I think we always see that some, some of those games where he should be demanding the balls. We saw a lot of the late game where he started out very well, but he just float through the whole game and without even asking for the ball. And I think sometimes we need to see that, you know, that toughness of him is just say, hey man, give me the goddamn ball. But he never, never does that. And so he just float through the game sometimes and then you forget about him. That he's on the court, you know.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. When he, when you have a guy that, that. That kind of skill level.
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Unknown
Yes.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Cause a people don't realize, ain't he six, ten and a half. He can put the ball on the floor, he can handle the ball, he can play with his back to the basket. That's what he likes to play. See, he's in a perfect situation. He's in a much better situation in Dallas than he is than he was in la because they didn't have big. If you go back and look at AD when he played his best, what did they have? A riding. They had Javale McGee, they had Dwight Howard. So he basically played for the entire game except the last five minutes of the fourth quarter he played the four.
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Unknown
Yes.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Now the last five minutes of the fourth quarter, he's playing the five. Go back and look at his stats. His first year there, that was his best year statistically. Led the team in scoring, led the team in rebounding, because he was always. Because you got three bigs. He could always play the four until the final five minutes of the ball game, and then he slide to the five, which he didn't have a problem with. Now he goes to Dallas. What do they have? Derek Lyn, AD can play the four. Daniel Gafford, he can play the four. Powell, he can play the four. You see? So in a situation, theoretically, Ocho, he's better in Dallas than he was in LA because they got bigs around him. So he can play his natural position, a position that he feels most comfortable playing because he's made it abundantly clear. He said, go back and look at me when I was in New Orleans, when we had boogie and I could play the four. Look at my numbers, and he ain't lying.
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Unknown
Yeah, but I think at times, though, I think at times, though, like you said, he's better at the five, though, once you try, when you have shooters around him.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes.
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Unknown
He's a. They're a better team at the 5 because sometimes he falls in love with the outside game.
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Ocho
Yes.
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Unknown
You know, assert himself, like when he's a big man, when they want him to play big man. And we know when he first came in the league, AD Was a runner.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes.
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Unknown
He used to beat the big man down the floor. So when he played the five, he drove the big man crazy. AD don't run no more. You see that he jogs down. You know, he's into these little steps. But this guy is. He's so efficient when he gets the ball, he makes a play. And the one thing I do like about him is he play on that other end. He blocked shots.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Ryan Coogler
Defender, he held.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Weak side. Mitch, here's the. Here's the thing, though, is that when you. You look at AD and every once in a while, he'll get that late, that early leak out. He'll get the guy on his back, they throw the ball down and he'll get down there. But see, the problem with him playing the five. AD don't want to bang.
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Unknown
No, he don't want to do none of that.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You see the. You play the five, you play the five, you got the bang.
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Unknown
Right? But who really banging? Chad, who really banging?
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Ocho
Hey, matter of fact, that's what I was raising my hand. I was raising my hand. I gotta raise my hand like I'm in class, you know, like I'm a student. So I was just getting ready to ask you.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Ocho
Is it better? Does he like being in the fire for the simple Fact that the game has changed, right? The game changed. They not really down there banging like that, as opposed to how they used to be back in the day, right? When you get your points, you got your big man down in the box. He post up and you get in the ball. The game of basketball has changed from that. You know where he feels comfortable being at the five, right? If you want to come out, he can come out and face up or take somebody off the dribble and do what he needs to do, right?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Unknown
We got to remember when. When. When Anthony Davis was in high school, he was a point guard, he was tall, he grew 11 inches or whatever, became a center. And so he wants to be out on the perimeter at times. You know, I think a lot of big guys see Kevin Durant and they want to mimic that type of play, because Kevin is 6 11. He can do it all. And they mimic. They want to see that right there. They see themselves doing that. Even boogie Cousins. Boogie cousins wanted to get out on the perimeter a little bit. And even Shaq wanted to get out on the perimeter, do his thing, and show what he can do.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And that's the thing, because AD's looking at it like, man, I get injured the most when I'm playing. When I'm playing the five, because all that banging, I'm stumbling over people. They banging, they banging on me. I don't have that. I don't have that kind of oomph in my body. And like you said, ain't a whole lot of guys that he gotta bang with. You gotta bang with Joel Embiid, you gotta bang with Jokic, but those are really the only centers. Every once in a while, you'll bump into Sabonis, but Sabonis ain't really. No, ain't really. I mean, he. He crafty, but he ain't. Like, he ain't really gonna get you no 30 like a yoke, or ain't 30, 40 even 50 on you. Same with Joel Embiid, right. Giannis is a guy that's looking to run. Giannis is looking for cracks. He was gonna try to slither his way through the clip. The crack Euro step you and get to the thing. But, yeah, AD has made it up in his mind that I need to be at the four. It ain't. No, you ain't not gonna be at this point in time, 12, 13 years in. Mitch, you not go convince him that you better at the five, right?
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Unknown
No. No question about it. And we. We look at the centers today. The centers don't run down and post up in the middle of the paint.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Maybe even.
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Unknown
He's probably the only one.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Unknown
Centers now, they really create the offense. They at the top of the key. They either do a double handoff, they setting the pick at the top so they can dive, but they never really running down the lane and getting to the middle of the basket and using those easy baskets. Yeah, they, they want to be on the perimeter.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Truly has changed because you go back and look, study Shaq. When Shaq, say Shaq's first eight years.
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Unknown
Yes.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Look out. Shaq was the first one down the court every time.
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Unknown
Every time.
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Ocho
He was, he, he was slim though when he was in Orlando.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, he was running straight to the front of the rim. He was gonna, they gonna throw it into him. He gonna drop step and he gonna put everybody in the basket.
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Unknown
That's right.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You just hope he didn't pull it down on your head. That was the F. So the Memphis Grizzlies, they defeat the Dallas Mavericks 120 to 106. They advance their eighth seed. They go and face the OKC Thunder, which we believe is going to be a great, a Great matchup on April 18th.
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Ryan Coogler
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Mitch Richmond
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
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Unknown
Six months.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Foreign the last two weeks Lucas shared his tears, returned to Dallas, drops 45. Nico Harrison doubles down on the trade. There is no regret. Mav CEO compares the Monte Ellis for Andrew Bogan. No, that that's not it. Dirk Naviski completely turned off by the Mavs. Mavs lose to the Grizzly and the playing one year after making the NBA Finals. Mitch, this is what I said. Yeah, I understand. Look, I understand Nico. It's kind of like Ocho in our situation. Roger Goodell. Roger Goodell don't make no rules. Those are the owners. Now he get all the blowback but that's why he makes 60 million. Because every time he comes up there, Ocho, to read a card, what do the fans do?
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Unknown
Boom.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They show his picture on the Jumbotron, wherever he's at. What do the fans do? Ocho? Boo.
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Unknown
Yeah, no question.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Nico Harrison, you know this, Mitch, being around the game as long as you had general managers can't make a move like this. This is ownership saying trade Luca. We're not trying to get up off of $350 million over 70 years.
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Unknown
No question. And when you're a GM, you know you have to take that hit because the owner is going to put it on you. Even know that he's making the decisions. And when you make a big decision of trade and Luca, you know, you had to talk to someone and someone had to pull that trigger. And so that I truly think it wasn't just Nico. Nico had to take the hit and he had to double down again. That it was my choice. And I know he's getting a lot of heat for him. He's a good man. But man, they are on him for this one.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No question about it.
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Ocho
Mitch, I'm glad you on here. Maybe you can give me a better perspective, outside perspective that I've already heard from analysts, from Punish, from Unk, from everybody else that's been on the show. But I want to hear from your mouth. For someone who's played the game for a very long time at high level, if you were management, if you were a gm.
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Unknown
Yes.
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Ocho
Would you let someone like Luka go based on what he's done in such a short amount of time, understanding what he does for your team based on the, the, the things they said that worry them.
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Unknown
Right.
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Ocho
Paying him long term money because he drink beer and smoke hookah.
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Unknown
Yeah, I, I, I, you know, this is a tough one because Luka is, he was Dallas. He was the Dallas City.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes.
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Unknown
Dallas Mavericks.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Homegrown.
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Unknown
He was homegrown. He got City back when Dirk, then Whiskey took him to the championship and won. So for me, I think, you know, as a general manager, sometimes you have to have a little pushback too as well. It's like, hey, man, this is going to be tough, man, to even pull this off. Maybe we need to get five or six guys for Luca because if you'd have put him on the, on the, if you'd have put him out there and said that you were trying to trade him, you would have got five or six guys back. Maybe it would made the deal look even better. And we're sitting here talking about like Luka went for a bomb. He went for one of the best players in the league in, in ad and we still said that wasn't a good trade, you know what I mean? So it's just a tough one, man. And it may. It propelled Lakers out, you know, it propelled Lakers for some reason failed them up and they looking like a totally, totally different team than they did. Yeah, well, in the funny year.
- [28:44]
Ocho
And the funny thing when you think about it too, Mitch, let's say they did put him out there on the market, right. And they did get AD for him for the trade. But let's think it was a market. All teams were available, right? What five or six players are you going to get that's going to be equivalent to that one when he does go somewhere else.
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Unknown
Right, Right.
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Ocho
The ones who, and the ones who are just as good enough, they not letting them go from the team that they own because that's their team's identity.
- [29:10]
Unknown
Yes.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Well, look at it like this, Ocho, when the Clippers traded Shea for Paul George.
- [29:20]
Unknown
Yes.
- [29:20]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Do they think Shay was going to be this or they would have never traded.
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Ocho
They wouldn't have pulled the trigger.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So you don't. So you don't know. And plus they got draft compensation. I think the thing is, okay, you get A.D. you get Max Christie. Mikhail Bridges went for four first round picks. Rudy Gobert went for players and four first round picks. You get A.D. max Crispy and one first rounder. I think that's where people are saying, hold on, wait a minute. Hey, this thing had the job. The job.
- [29:51]
Unknown
But that tells you right there that it wasn't just Nico decision at that particular time.
- [29:57]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, it wasn't.
- [29:58]
Unknown
Yeah. Nico being a general manager, he's looking for assets. He's looking for something to get back my player. I want to have something so I can see in the future. Kind of like what OKC has been doing for years. You know, they're packing those first round picks, they're getting second round picks, they're creating and they building a team as each year goes. So you know, it had to be the owner's choice in this.
- [30:23]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The Alderson family purchased it. I think the son in law runs it. Josh Dumont. You look at what OKC did. Ocho, when they traded Russ. Yes. Patrick Dumont, they got, they got first round picks, they got assets, they traded. When they traded Paul George, they got Shay Gilgames, they got Gallinari and they got pick swaps and they got first round picks unprotected. So now Shay turns into what he turns into. Now, the one thing we can say about Sam Preston, he know how to draft. He drafted kd, he drafted West Westbrook, and he drafted James Harden.
- [30:57]
Unknown
Yes.
- [30:58]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
All of those plays, all those players are top 75 players of all time. All players have won MVPs. So he knows how to draft.
- [31:08]
Unknown
Right? Right.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Jalen Williams. Boom. And he's wheeling and dealing. He gets a Caruso, he trades for a Lou Dort. You see now he gets a Hartenstein. His free agency. He drafts Chad Holmgren.
- [31:23]
Unknown
Right.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So obviously he knows what he's doing. And I think the thing is, Mitch, it's reported. We don't know if being reported. They reached out to Minnesota. Would you take Luca for Anthony Davis? Click. They reached out to Milwaukee.
- [31:39]
Ocho
Anthony Edwards.
- [31:40]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Anthony Edwards. Excuse me, Anthony Edwards. Ant man. They reached out to. Hey, Minnesota. What about Luca for Ant? Click. Okay, they called Milwaukee. Hey guys, what about Giannis for Luca? Click. So now. Cause the more you call around, it's gonna get out. Mitchell, this thing got to be secretive. Secretive. It's got to be hush, hush.
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Ocho
See what I just said though? Look at the name you just called. They are the team's identity and heartbeat.
- [32:09]
Unknown
Yes.
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Ocho
They ain't letting them. They ain't letting them go. So when Ms. Say, you know, okay, we put them on the market for five, for five or six players. Well, the five or six you're going to get is still probably going to be equivalent the goddamn 80 coming over there.
- [32:22]
Unknown
Right? Right.
- [32:23]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Now maybe a. Maybe you go. Maybe you go to Phoenix. Hey, what about kd? What? What? And they don't. They don't really have. They don't really have. They don't have a whole lot because they gave up so much to get kd. Cause see, you got to scan around. So look, the best player that they probably could have gotten. Boston's not trading you, Jason Tatum. So don't even call them.
- [32:48]
Unknown
Right, right, right.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You can't get Booker. So basically, okay, Ant Man. No, Giannis, no, you're not getting Jokic from the Nuggets. Who can we get? Yeah, and I've got a personal relationship with Rob Pelinka. Hey, Rob. Now Rob's going to keep it hush, hush because he really want this thing to go through. Because now we got the bridge for the next decade. When LeBron stepped whenever that is, after 23, after 24, after 25, 25th season, we got a bridge for the next decade, no question. So. But for me, look, you can beat Nico up all you want to. He like, he's Low hanging fruit and that. And her men say, hey, I'd have told the ownership. They say, hey, you see that check got your name on it. Now if you still want this check to have your name on it tomorrow, no question.
- [33:43]
Unknown
I mean, we can say what we want when we over here right now. But I think, I think Nico had to make a conscious decision, you know what I mean? He's in a job, he's still doing his job. And if the owners, he got to understand, he got to speak. If his owners say that they want to make this trade, you can argue all you want, you can put your points up, but at the end of the day, hey, I got to do it and you got to pull the trigger.
- [34:04]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [34:04]
Unknown
And Luka going to the Lakers, you know, probably any other team, he probably would have still been out of shape. You know what I mean?
- [34:12]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [34:12]
Unknown
Going to the Lakers, it really like now you with LeBron now, you know, you know how to get in shape. You know, you want to show Dallas that, hey, man, y'all made a terrible choice. Oh, yes, it's getting himself back in shape. He's in better shape when he first got there. So that team, I mean, it looks, it looks gonna be different. It's going to be difficult in the playoffs because they, they set up very well in the bracket right now. They don't face Denver early, you know what I mean? So they set up very well.
- [34:42]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And the SEC in the early game. The Heat regroup after losing an early lead.
- [34:49]
Ocho
Okay, I just wanna. Okay, I just, I just want you, I want you to keep that same minute you had when you and ISO Joe was on here talking about he was gonna lose. Okay.
- [34:58]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But go ahead.
- [34:58]
Ocho
I'm let you finish.
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Unknown
My bad.
- [34:59]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The Heat regroup. They beat the hawks in overtime, 123 to 114. Tyler Hero was on one again, 30 points. Sank two big threes in overtime. Let me get this. He was, you know, he scored 30. I think he scored 38. The first game when they beat Chicago, he backed it up with another 30 point game. He got 20 points from Andrew Wiggins. He got 17 and 11 from Bam. He got 12 points from Highsmith off the bench, so. And they got 16 from Davion Mitchell. He played 40 minutes, did a great job. Trae Young did have 29 points, 11 assists, but it took him 22 shots. So that's what you want to do with a score. Look, I'm not saying I'm gonna shut you down, but I'm gonna make you as least as inefficient as I possibly can. So if you get 29 shots and I force you to take 22 shots to get them, you gotta live with that, Mitch.
- [35:59]
Unknown
Yeah. Yeah. You know, you gotta be proud of Donovan Mitchell, man. He's just been. He's been meant all of that, man. He's got an opportunity now in Miami to play some minutes. To play some solid minutes. He plays it hard, bro.
- [36:13]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes.
- [36:14]
Unknown
Works out hard. I've seen him in the summertime of what he does. The guy works out hard. And he demands on that defensive end that you give him respect. Now, he's hitting a three point shot. So I'm so happy for him to get an opportunity, man, to play and show that he can play in this league and play big. Minutes.
- [36:30]
Ocho
Yeah. Matter of fact. Hey, brother Mitchell. I know you're gonna see this. I wanna say I salute you, I love you. I appreciate you for backing me on Unk and ISO Joe, who said we didn't have a chance against the Hawks. I appreciate you the fact that you playing both ends of the course and you showed out tonight, boy. I'm gonna be that courtside. You hear me? I'm gonna be that courtside. Tyler Herro. Thank you for everybody that didn't believe in us. Now, I told people earlier, and they probably gonna laugh at me again and say, oh, I'm a casual fan. I don't even watch basket. Come out the East. When we come out the East, I want everybody to remember, oh, I'm gonna keep the same energy. Keep the same energy.
- [37:09]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You must be on an airplane. That's the only way y'all coming out these on the plane. Y'all not gonna beat them teams in the east and come up out.
- [37:16]
Ocho
Hold on, hold on, hold on. We got. We got the number one seed, right? We got the number one seed, right? We got the Cavs.
- [37:20]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Huh? You got the Cavs.
- [37:21]
Unknown
No, y'all. Y'all playing. Yeah, y'all playing the number one seed. Y'all ain't got the number one seed, number eight.
- [37:27]
Ocho
No, I know we don't got number six. I'm saying we play. I'm saying we play number six. I got a question for you, Mitch, and. And for the chat, too. What's gonna happen? And don't try to say it was pride. And don't try to say it was upset. What's gonna happen? Eliminate. Eliminate the Cavs in the seven game. In the seven game series.
- [37:43]
Unknown
I mean, we gotta say this. No, no, we can't say nothing if they can't. If they upset the Cavs, then we gotta give them some problem.
- [37:51]
Ocho
Time out, time out, Time out. It's not gonna be upset. Okay, listen, before the playoff started, before the playing started, I said, once the Heat made. Once the Heat made it, we coming out the East.
- [38:00]
Unknown
But that is. That's the upset. That's an upset. Ojo. Cleveland, that's an upset.
- [38:08]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Come on.
- [38:08]
Ocho
Listen, I respect brother Donovan Mitchell, I respect Garland, I respect them boys out there, but it's not gonna be an update. I told you it was gonna happen before it happened. So it's not an upset.
- [38:17]
Unknown
All right?
- [38:17]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay.
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Ocho
All right.
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Unknown
You got.
- [38:18]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You.
- [38:19]
Unknown
All right.
- [38:20]
Ocho
You got something. You got something to say?
- [38:22]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Nah. Davion Mitchell played really well. He grew up near my hometown. He's from Liberty. Liberty. Liberty County. For Stewart, the Army base is close by. But he was. He. He played really well. He played outstanding defense. He shot the three ball well. He's 49 from the three. You know, again, the number two pick in the draft. How you say his name? Richard. Richard.
- [38:51]
Unknown
For the. For the Hawks?
- [38:52]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [38:53]
Unknown
Oh, man.
- [38:53]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He had three points.
- [38:55]
Unknown
Yeah. I can't pronounce it.
- [38:56]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He had three points. Yeah, Rache, he had three points and he played 16 minutes. So that tells me that Snyder was like, bro, I see you ain't got it tonight. Let me get you on the bench, because George Meang played 26 minutes, Caris Lavert 37 minutes, Terrence Mann, 25 minutes, so. And the other guy played 15 minutes, so. And they had six points between them. So that lets me know that Snyder knew early on that they didn't have it. And he tried to get some guys in there that could. That could give him some production. So that's why you see your role, your bench players play way more than your starter. They only play 16 minutes, and this is a 48, a 53 minute game. So when you look at it, they did not play a lot.
- [39:44]
Unknown
No.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But what do you like about. What is it about the Heat that they find a way. They always do. They find ways to summons up.
- [39:55]
Unknown
They tough and get a win. They tough. They tough because they jumped out on Atlanta playing great team defense. And you know, you know, Tyler Herro, I mean, he is. He's tough. You know, he. He got a little frame on him, but he doesn't take any. Any smack. And when you got Mitchell at the point guard and you got those guys playing hard at Bama bio and you got Pat Riley in that. In that locker room as well as Spoelstra, they demand you to play on the defensive end. And if we're gonna lose, we're gonna lose it all. We're gonna put it all out there. And they do that every night.
- [40:32]
Ocho
Hey.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Huh? Yes.
- [40:34]
Ocho
You want to know what's, you wanna know what's special about the Heat?
- [40:36]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What's special about it, Mocho?
- [40:38]
Ocho
We talk about hard nose basketball. It ain't pretty. We're gonna put our heart, we're gonna put our hat, our hard hat on. We're gonna put our timbs on. We're gonna put on our utility belt. Ain't nobody out there flashy. We ain't got no super duper superstars. You know, we got Tyler, you know, we got a good supporting cast. And we gonna go out there and play basketball on both ends of the court. Yeah, on both ends. And that's what you're gonna get. Night in and night out. Now when we go, when we go to Cleveland and we give Cleveland that belt the ass, and they come to Miami and they get that belt the ass again. And then everybody gonna be like, oh, I can't believe it happened. Why can't you believe it? It's what we've always done. I know we lost Jimmy Butler. I know we lost Jimmy Butler. But the team morale is still there. Mitchell picks up for what we lost in Jimmy Butler. Tyler Herro is picking up with 3230 point games back to back.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Bam.
- [41:35]
Ocho
Going to be bamboo and everybody else gonna fit in where they fit in and we gonna make it happen. Anybody in the chat that's laughing or saying, I don't know what I'm talking about, oh, you don't know basketball. Bet me. Bet me.
- [41:49]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It's gonna be very interesting because the backcourt is sensational with Garland and Mitchell. You got the two bigs. Evan Mobley, who's a defensive player to your candidate, you got another rim protector guy can defend Jared Allen. Jared Allen is a guy you don't have to run plays for. You can run. Hey, he a lob threat and he gonna get it off the rim. Hey, bro, you want 12 points? Hey, roll to the rim and get it off the rim and duck it back home. That, that's, that's your, that's your offense. That's the plays we run for you. Evan Mobley, we know what he is. He's a tremendous defender and he can go get you 20 points, double and double digit rebounds. Those two backcours, that's what, that's what the Cavaliers are. The backcourt. The backcourt. They made the trade for DeAndre Hunter. They got Ty Jerome. They got guys.
- [42:37]
Unknown
Yes.
- [42:38]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That can punish you when you try to help off on Donovan Mitchell and Darius Garland.
- [42:47]
Unknown
Yeah, they're a pretty solid team if you look at them in the East. Their makeup is kind of similar to OKC with the bigs.
- [42:57]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They play two bigs. They led by the backcourt.
- [43:00]
Unknown
Yeah, exactly. But they don't, they don't shoot it outside. But they do pack the paint and, and they, you know, they don't. They play their big. They make you play their size. And so they're going to be big over Miami. So Miami really got to, you know, gut it out because they're going to be bigger.
- [43:17]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, you're, you're right about that. So that's going to be a very interesting, very interesting matchup on April 18th.
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Unknown
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Ocho
Pit at these kids play gyms?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Amazon One Medical healthcare just got less painful. When Luca was honored by Dallas with a tribute video, he acknowledged there was one clip that struck him the most. His game winning three over Minnesota Timberwolves center center Rudy Gobert last year Luka faces the Wolves game one and said would be welcome to seven foot Goldberg trying to guard him again. Since I came into the league, they like to play pick and roll. I like to get the center on me. J.J. think. Well, he thinks there's not a person in the world that can guard him. So I think he takes that seriously. And that's the matchup. You know what the thing is is that you think about Gobert. Mitch here's a guy that's won four defensive players of the year, right? And he becomes unplayable late in the ball game. How you. How you a top notch receiver and I got to take you off the field late in the ball game. You're a top notch running back and I take you off the field in the run in late in the ball game. He is a four time defensive player of the year and late in the ball game, Mitch, he's unplayable.
- [47:01]
Unknown
I see this all but I think they keep putting them in the same position. They take they. They do a pick and roll and it's really sometimes a lazy pick and the guy just goes and start guarding the big and leave him out on the island with some of the best players in the game. You know he cannot guard those guys. No, he cannot guard them. So they. They have to find some way that these guys got to fight over the pick. And Gobert do not get an opportunity to even be on Luka at the end of the game. Be on kd, be on these guys when he's playing. They gotta fight through the pick and keep Gobert in the paint. That keep him in the paint.
- [47:47]
Ocho
Excuse me, excuse me. Y'all can have a question, right? Rudy Gobert, he's won defensive player four times, right? Yep, he's won. He's won those awards based on what he does inside the paint, right?
- [47:57]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [47:57]
Ocho
Where is he? Where, where is he? A liability. Out there in space.
- [48:01]
Unknown
Exactly.
- [48:02]
Ocho
Out there in space. So what are they gonna do? Yeah, they gonna pick him every time?
- [48:05]
Unknown
Yes, every time.
- [48:06]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Because guess what? Even if you try to. I'm just gonna. I just bring a shooter in the game. So if he stays ass in the paint, I'll shoot, shoot around threes on his ass. Now I will keep picking because I will bring him. He's got. Look, the guys are too good now. It ain't like, you know, you normally rich. When you play, you have one guy that could really like, let it go. You had a guy, he got hot. Those guys now if you let them shoot, shoot around threes, they gonna make you pay. So they can't hide him. It's just like your quarterback now, Ocho. You can't hide him. You remember before you can hand the ball up to the running back, we had shooters now.
- [48:44]
Unknown
We had shooters. It was just a game. The game is spread it.
- [48:48]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Now that's. I don't want to disagree with you, Mitch, but on average there are more shooters now than when you played.
- [48:57]
Unknown
Well, how they play now? Everyone is shooting threes. No question about it. Because I'm gonna tell you. Why is that? Because sometimes in these games you see two point guards in the game.
- [49:08]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes.
- [49:08]
Unknown
You know what I mean? You see two point guards, you see a three man playing the four. So looks like they're better shooters because you got small wings playing from one to five. And so everybody has done spread it out. No question about it that they take more threes than we do. So the average is out. And no question about that.
- [49:27]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes.
- [49:27]
Unknown
You gotta understand how they playing. And they playing five.
- [49:30]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They.
- [49:30]
Unknown
Sometimes they playing five. Out. Yes, man, four out. They play, they playing. Kyrie plays the two. Basically.
- [49:37]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes.
- [49:38]
Unknown
He plays the two all the way through the game. So they're playing small because we played it at Golden State. We played small ball where we cracked 1 through 4, 1 through 5, our center shot threes. So we shot more threes than most teams in the league because of how we played. But yeah, I understand. Getting back to the point, I done lost my thought now, but you good.
- [49:59]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Lost, cuz you jumped on there talking about.
- [50:02]
Unknown
I jumped on, I jumped on, I jumped on. No question.
- [50:08]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But these guys, these guys now. Because now it used to be a big yes. If you, if you were 6, 10, you played the center position. You a. All that talking about you a big. The only. Cuz that's what made Magic the anomaly. Because normally a 69 guy, you are a power forward or a center. Magic came in, you a pointed guard. How's your big ass? Go play point. Well, that's what happened. And now you got guys like Jokic shooting threes. Joel Embiid shooting threes. Anthony Davis shoot threes. Check. Wemby, seven threes and a half, seven four shooting threes, man.
- [50:44]
Unknown
And I got. Before you talk, Chico Ocho. So I'm sorry I said Ocho, but check this out. The bigs don't take advantage of their size.
- [50:55]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No.
- [50:56]
Unknown
So if. If Goldberg's in the game and he is getting. Getting killed on the perimeter, the first thing he should be doing is running. Go to the paint and post it up under the basket. Because sometimes he has a small on.
- [51:10]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Him and he does.
- [51:11]
Unknown
They want to give him the ball. No question. He gotta learn how to score in the paint. But he has to try to dunk everything first. Dunked everything. You gotta dunk everything first.
- [51:23]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm filing his ass.
- [51:24]
Unknown
Yeah, you gotta. We don't put nobody, they don't put nobody in foul trouble. So if a little guy guard me, I'm going right in the plane and I'm going straight up. They're gonna file him, but they don't take advantage of that. You know what I mean?
- [51:36]
Ocho
I don't understand. Listen, I'm not a coach. I'm not a coach. But if I understand, even though he's a four time mvp, defensive mvp, if I know late in the game he's a liability, he has no quick pitch fibers. Why not just go small? Understanding that if they do get him out of space, they gonna pick him because they know they're gonna have somebody that's smaller and they're gonna be able to create space every single time.
- [51:59]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right? Because you don't have rim protection.
- [52:00]
Ocho
You know, he's a liability at the.
- [52:01]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
End of the game because they want. They won't. They want that. If you get beat off the dribble, you got a seven. You got a four time defensive player of the year to protect the rim. So that's what you want. Because now you take Rudy Gobert got beat you off the dribble, it's a layup. That's why they keep him in the game.
- [52:20]
Ocho
But they hold on. They keep him in the game.
- [52:22]
Unknown
Yeah, they mix, right?
- [52:24]
Ocho
They keeping him in the game. Right. But he's still a liability. So they running Plays to bring him outside the paint. That's right.
- [52:30]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
On purpose.
- [52:31]
Ocho
That's right. He had no choice but to come out.
- [52:34]
Unknown
That's right. Yeah.
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Ocho
And he's doing the same thing every time. When Luca hit that shot when he had to come out last year.
- [52:39]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes.
- [52:40]
Ocho
They ran the play and purposely made him come out the paint.
- [52:43]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes.
- [52:44]
Unknown
Right.
- [52:44]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You keep with the Mitch. It's the same thing they do with Luca. They put Luca in the pick and roll. Cause they know he can't defend. And you go watch, they'll hunt him out. It's like, nope, I don't want him. Bring me Luke. Bring me Luca.
- [52:58]
Unknown
Yeah.
- [52:58]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So, yeah. Hey, if I get a fish. What? I. I just can't let him get off the hook. I just got to bring him. I got to get him. I got to bring him to the boat.
- [53:05]
Unknown
Right, Right.
- [53:06]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's the only thing. That's what we say. If I got a fish on the line. Hey, don't let him go. Yes, sir. Keep the line tight on your. Don't let it. Hey, don't let it. Don't get. So he can shake. Shake it out his mouth. Hold it right there where he is.
- [53:19]
Unknown
Hey.
- [53:20]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And we gonna keep. Do. We gonna keep running it until they stop it?
- [53:23]
Unknown
Yes. No question about it. But we always see he ends up on Luca.
- [53:28]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He.
- [53:29]
Unknown
He ends up on those guards. I don't know how it happened. Like, yo. I think they just gotta continue to keep fighting through the pick. You gotta get it back in front of Luca, because Luca is gonna terrorize. No one can guard him anyway. No, but you putting a center on him, and he just looks like he's going to go to the basket and take that step back. Go bear. Can't get back. He can't get back to that shot. He can't bother it either way.
- [53:53]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, no. Because all Luke is looking to do. Luke is looking first of all. And if you do get back, if you get in a situation, if you get on the side, Lukas wants you to get on the side because now he's going to cut you off. Now he got you on his back.
- [54:05]
Unknown
Yes.
- [54:05]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And now he going to pause. And the moment he feel you bump him in the back, he gonna get the shot off. So you gonna get a foul. And you might give him an A and 1. He is very crafty because he's bigger than you think. He's stronger than you think. He can play through contact. You cannot speed him up.
- [54:21]
Unknown
Right.
- [54:21]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And his vision. You trapping. He's like a LeBron. You trap LeBron. LeBron's like, okay, that's you. Okay. You was guarding this guy. This guy opening the corner over here or this guy open over there, or I need to snap or the hammer pass, or I need to clear a cross court pass. That's Luca. All he is is a younger, white version of LeBron, a guy that can control the game. There are very few guys that can control the game, Mitch. Luka and LeBron are one. They just happen to be on the same team. And now you got Three guys, Luka, AR and LeBron, that can get you buckets. So if one guy's having an off night, the other two can carry it alone. Now, if all three are on, you got your head full that night.
- [55:05]
Ocho
Hell, yeah.
- [55:07]
Unknown
Hell, have you ever seen. You ever seen how they guard Luka overseas?
- [55:12]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Nah.
- [55:13]
Unknown
Okay, you need to check that out, because overseas he can tell you that if he says. He says he done said it publicly, that it's easier to score in the NBA than it is overseas.
- [55:25]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I believe it.
- [55:26]
Unknown
The one thing they do when Luka comes off that pick, they jump him, trap him.
- [55:32]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, okay. You bless him.
- [55:34]
Unknown
They don't even. They don't even. They don't even trap him. They just jump him and make him.
- [55:39]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Turn his back, make him get the ball.
- [55:40]
Unknown
Okay. Yeah. And make him turn his back for the other guy to come and get back in front of him. When you got Luca, who can really pass the ball, and he sets a pick, and I got my shoulders narrow. I mean, I got my soldiers, so, I mean, shoulders facing the basketball. I got five positions that I can throw the ball to, right? When you put in the pick and roll, you supposed to only have one pass. You're trying to get that guy one pass to get an outlet, and that's to the sideline, not down the lane, not corners. But when they play Luka, now, he has five positions that he could. He can score it, he can pass it, but overseas, they jump him, that they make him get out his hands or make him hold it a little enough so he don't come around that corner facing. I mean, his shoulders facing the basket. So it's a little different how they playing?
- [56:32]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, you know what, Mitch? I heard it when he said that. I said, man, you out your mind. I heard Jokic, he said, it's easier to score in the NBA. So I'm thinking, I'm like, what are y'all talking about? Do you understand they got the best players in the world? That'd be like saying, ocho, you know what? It's Easier playing football in the UFL than it is the NFL. Are you serious?
- [56:54]
Unknown
Right, but you gotta.
- [56:56]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Now that you mentioned, because they understand.
- [56:58]
Unknown
Yes.
- [56:59]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They're like, oh, no. And the rule, the rules are different. You can knock the ball off the ceiling, you can do all that. They play the Olympic. The fever rules are a lot different than American basketball rules. So America might need to adopt those rules so we wouldn't have such a difficult time. Mitch, when we go to the Olympics.
- [57:17]
Unknown
That'S why we have. That's why we have two or three games that we have to get adjusted to when we get over there in the Olympics. I played in the Olympics as well. You know, it was a game, it was a time that we were a more physical team than the Olympics than the overseas game. Right. Now that has changed because they set hard picks, you know what I mean? They played more difficult and they don't have. I don't think they have the 3 second lane room we have. So they kind of pack the paint a little bit so they act the pain on Luka a little bit. So he has some bodies in there when he goes. So it's totally a different game.
- [57:53]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And plus the thing, they don't have the athletes, so they gotta play with this.
- [57:58]
Unknown
That's right.
- [57:59]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They gonna back door pass your ass. They gonna cut, they gonna scream, they gonna do all the things. They're not reliant on athleticism. Not one time have you ever heard of a European guy. Boy, he's really athletic. When you look at Dirk, you look at Sabonis, you look at Jokic, you look at L. The now Petro, and you was in the league when Petrovich was playing. Oh, he could get it. Yeah, he was a bucket.
- [58:25]
Unknown
No question. No question. He could really shoot it.
- [58:27]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. You look at Detliff Shrimp, all those guys, you look at a Rick Schmidt, all those guys, was they nothing? The non athletic. But they understood because they came out of playing in that era, right?
- [58:39]
Unknown
No question, no question. Little bit more fundamentals. They had to really rely on the fundamentals.
- [58:44]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes. Ant man told reporters that he's relishing the chance to battle LeBron James over seven game series. It means a lot to match up against him. Man probably goes down as the greatest player to ever play the game. So trying to put, trying to get, putting him out of the playoffs under my belt is going to be a tough one. But it's going to be a fun road. What you think, Mitch?
- [59:06]
Unknown
I think Lakers. I think Lakers. I like Minnesota. I think they don't match up very well with the Lakers. Reaves is a hard guard as well. And when you got, well, what is the name? What is the Asian dude?
- [59:26]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, Rui. Rui. Rudy.
- [59:28]
Unknown
Rudy. When you got him, you know hitting shots and hitting open shots, they're a tough guard. And you know what? They're playing team defense. They look playing team defense and I never seen that with, even with Luka you would thought that they would struggle. They still go after him. But Luka is really trying to play a little bit sometimes. But their team defense is so much better. But I don't think Minnesota has enough to take them because here's the thing.
- [59:57]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What I would say to Luca if I'm telling him just don't let the guy beat you off the first move, make him go to the second move because if he beat you off the first move, we're probably not going to be able to get there in time. And so if we can make him go to a second move, maybe that gives us an opportunity. Because the problem that they got Mitchell is that Luke is not a great defender, Arkansas is not a great defender. And LeBron really only tried to defend in spurts. So you're playing, you playing with three guys out there that's really not defenders. Now you might have Finney Smith who's one of your own ball defenders. You get Vanderbilt, that comes in, he's your own ball defender. But you give up so much offensively when Vanderbilt comes in the game because he's not an offensive threat. So people slump off of him. And now I can help on LeBron, I can help on Luka, I can help on AR, but I agree with you, they have to play because they really don't have, I mean Jackson Hayes is a health defender. He's not an own ball defender. At 6, at 7 foot tall, he's a rim runner, he can get, he's a lob threat, he'll get it off the rim and give you some second chance points. But they have to play team defense in order for them to have a chance to win. Because they don't really have a great. They don't have a Davion Mitchell, they don't have a holiday, they don't have a Derrick White, they don't have guys like that that can on ball pressure you and hound you like some of those, like some of the guys that I mentioned.
- [61:20]
Ocho
Yeah, listen, you know, you know I love, I love and confidence, I love his confidence, I love what he's saying, I love that he's talking, I love that he's willing to face the challenge and show people what he can do. But like, like you said, Mitch, like you said, they just don't have enough firepower. They don't have enough firepower. Even if you make LeBron or you make Luka and you make everyone else exert all that energy on the defense end on the, on the. And think that might somewhat deplete them offensively. Yeah, you obviously need, outside of Anthony Ambers, you need everybody else collectively to be able to show up in a seven game series.
- [61:57]
Unknown
Right.
- [61:57]
Ocho
And it just, it's not, it's not gonna happen.
- [62:00]
Unknown
Right?
- [62:00]
Ocho
It's not because a night where Luke is off, then LeBron, LeBron and Rui and Austin Reeves might be on a night that, that, that LeBron is off, then Luke is going to be on. And it's just collectively as a group, they're a much better team as a whole as opposed to the Wolves. I like, I love Ant. I love the confidence. He probably gonna show up, he gonna show out. What is everybody else gonna do? That's the problem.
- [62:28]
Unknown
Right, right. And I'm looking to see, you know, this is the playoffs, y'all, so I'm gonna see if they change up any way how they play Luca or how they play LeBron. Like this is now where you really zeroed in on a four game series. Then you try different things so maybe one of those things might stick. So I'm pretty sure that they, you know, in the draw on, on that in practice or when they, in their meetings, they're trying to come up with different ways that they can play LeBron or they can play Luca. So it's going to be interesting to see how they come out and do that though. But we know Ant gonna show up, no question.
- [63:06]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But it's gonna be incumbent it that Julius Randle plays extremely well and now we know he's capable of. Now Drew Randall, he's a big body guy. Look, he's, look, he likes to go, he likes to go to that left hand. He can occasionally knock down the three point shot, but he's a big body guy. He gonna post you up. He's gonna, you know, so I think the thing is the interest, interesting matchup because this is probably the first time that we can question LeBron. Probably the second option. For the first time in his career, 21 years, Mitch, he liked the second option. And if you said that you're like, okay, I ain't been to fight you. You've never been able to say that at any other point in time. In his career.
- [63:47]
Unknown
No, no, not. Not at all. But you got. You got two. You got two guys that when they have the ball, they're the first option. So when LeBron has it, he's the first option. When, you know, when Luka has it, he's the first option. And Reeves now done got into the mix where he don't have to pass the ball because he's so efficient in hitting his shot. So, yeah, they're a different team of how they playing now. And Luka is the number one guy that, you know, he's the number one ball handler. Yeah, he can rest. He can rest now a little bit on. He don't have to do all of the things. He don't have to be the guy that can make all of the passes. So, yeah, it's going to be interesting.
- [64:27]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You know, I like the fact that Luca handles the ball because LeBron is better off the ball than Luca. I can put LeBron in the dunker spot. I can put him in the pick and roll. He can roll to the basket.
- [64:39]
Unknown
That's.
- [64:39]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Luca is not really a roller. He's. I ain't put Luka in the dunker spot. I a put lung spot. But Luke A, he can catch. He can catch and shoot. I like, I like LeBron there because like you said, it takes him off the ball. He doesn't have to exert himself nearly as much. And Ocho and I was talking about this. They might have gave LeBron another two to three years with Luka. They're not Mitch.
- [65:05]
Unknown
No question about that. Yeah. And they gonna reload this summer, you know.
- [65:10]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [65:11]
Unknown
So, yeah, they're trying to get fresh bodies for him so they can. You know what I mean? Like, he don't have to do all of the work now. You got another passer that can pass like him. So, I mean, we wasn't looking at the Lakers to be at the number three spot. If we was talking about the summertime and coming up into this season, it was a lot of doubt of where they were going to be.
- [65:34]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes.
- [65:34]
Unknown
Now that they done made it to the third spot, pretty remarkable, tell you the truth.
- [65:40]
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
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Unknown
They ever actually clean the ball pit.
- [67:46]
Ocho
At these kids play gyms?
- [67:48]
Unknown
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
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- [68:03]
Unknown
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Amazon One Medical Healthcare just got less painful. Damian Lillard has been cleared of his deep vein thrombosis and is no longer on blood thinning medication. The Bucks didn't give a timeline for Dame's return, but said he'll continue to increase his own court basketball activity. He won't play Saturday for Game one of the Bucs playoff series against the Pacers. Mitch, what are what is the buck ceiling? If they let's just say, okay, we know he's not playing in game one. What is their ceiling if they get Dame back at some point in time, let's just say he comes back game. Let's just say for the sake of argument, the first two games on the road, he doesn't play. He comes back for game three. Dame comes back for game three. What are the Bucks ceiling, man? Can they get out of the East?
- [69:03]
Unknown
I think they have an opportunity to get to the Eastern Conference finals. No question about it. If they're healthy. If Dame come in with the right. I think. Mindset. They done. I think who they. They just got the guy from what, Washington.
- [69:18]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, Kyle Kuzma.
- [69:19]
Unknown
Kyle Kuzma.
- [69:20]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, you counting on him?
- [69:22]
Unknown
Got a little bit. No, I'm just saying he doesn't.
- [69:25]
Ocho
He.
- [69:25]
Unknown
He's a. He's a great player at the third position. The third. You know, third or fourth position, he's a great. He doesn't have to be the leader. You know, he was a great player at that. But, yeah, I mean, I think nobody's still gonna, you know, take over Boston. Yeah, I think Boston is the team to beat Cleveland. I think Cleveland can get there, and that can be the Eastern Conference fighter. But I just think Milwaukee is right where they at. I see Cleveland and Boston in the finals.
- [69:54]
Ocho
See, this is what I'm talking about. This is what I'm talking about. First it was on, then it was Iceo Joe. Man, here we go again, Mitch.
- [70:02]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What I do, what I do, we.
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Ocho
Talk about who coming out east, and the first thing you say is, you say, maybe the Bucks.
- [70:09]
Unknown
No, no, no, no.
- [70:10]
Ocho
Maybe the Cab.
- [70:11]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, he said boston, maybe calves.
- [70:13]
Unknown
Yeah, I say Boston, maybe calves. I said, well, how the cab.
- [70:16]
Ocho
I just told you earlier, about 20 minutes ago, the calves weren't even getting past the heat. So how you got the calves?
- [70:22]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You know what?
- [70:22]
Unknown
I forgot you was on that. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, homie. I'm sorry, homie. I'm sorry. You still on that Miami Heat? That's what we messed up, right? We're sorry about that.
- [70:32]
Ocho
But I'm gonna give you a chance to fix it. Go ahead. I'm gonna let you fix it.
- [70:35]
Unknown
You gonna let me fix it?
- [70:36]
Ocho
Yeah, go ahead.
- [70:36]
Unknown
You know, you know, you know. Just told you. You know, that's my hometown too, homie. I'm Fort Lauderdale, Florida. But I think Cleveland got him, bro. I think Cleveland got. I got. I think Cleveland got.
- [70:47]
Ocho
Okay. I got something better for you.
- [70:49]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Can we get a belt? Can we get a bet? Can we get a bet?
- [70:52]
Ocho
Let put something on the floor for you. Make a life for yourself.
- [70:55]
Unknown
What you want?
- [70:55]
Ocho
What you want to bet?
- [70:56]
Unknown
I mean, I race you in 100.
- [71:02]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Man, your hamstring gonna pop. You gonna look like somebody, a sniper.
- [71:08]
Unknown
Shot your ass in 100, homie.
- [71:10]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Go.
- [71:11]
Ocho
Listen, hey, I'm in shape, right? I'm still running. I give you 30 meters. I give you 30 meters.
- [71:18]
Unknown
Ain't no way, bro. I'm on the stair climber, baby. I'm ready.
- [71:21]
Ocho
Oh, yeah, you got Mitch. I play soccer every day, Mitch. I play soccer every day.
- [71:25]
Ryan Coogler
Okay.
- [71:26]
Ocho
Yes. Full field, 40 minute halves. I'm still running like that.
- [71:30]
Unknown
All right, well, I take that back then. My bad. Go on, take that back. You right. Right? You're right. I lose that. But, hey, man, get off these. Miami Heat, man. I love them.
- [71:39]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Them.
- [71:40]
Unknown
I love them. I love Pat Ryan. I love everything they doing, but I don't know if they can get past Cleveland.
- [71:46]
Ocho
You know what? This is similar to the same story in the Bible. Like David and Goliath, they had no faith in David.
- [71:51]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's gonna be.
- [71:52]
Ocho
They had no faith in David.
- [71:54]
Unknown
Okay?
- [71:55]
Ocho
And right now, basically, the heat of David.
- [71:59]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Y'all better get some slingshots, some smooth five pebbles, something.
- [72:05]
Unknown
That ain't happening, baby. They ain't happening, man.
- [72:07]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Come on.
- [72:07]
Ocho
It's so funny. Listen, listen. You two don't believe the chat. The chat. I can see y'all. I see y'all talking trash talk about what am I smoking and what's wrong with me. I'm delusional. But when it happens, I don't want to hear nothing.
- [72:20]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay?
- [72:20]
Unknown
Hear nothing.
- [72:23]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
John Sally says the NBA banned all NBA footage before 1974. He also said Will Chandler was 73 and could run a 4 or 5. 40. I mean, he was athletic. I mean, the footage that they show, you see him getting up, up and down the court. They changed the rules.
- [72:39]
Unknown
Rules, Right.
- [72:40]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They changed the rule.
- [72:41]
Shannon Sharpe
For real.
- [72:41]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He was just too. I mean, you're never gonna see a guy. His record, they. I mean, for some of these records, they might as well just take him down. Ain't Nobody gonna get 23, 000 rebounds. Ain't ever.
- [72:52]
Unknown
Right, right.
- [72:52]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Nobody's gonna average 27. He averaged two seasons where he averaged 27 rebounds a game.
- [72:58]
Unknown
That's crazy.
- [72:59]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He averaged 25 rebounds a game while averaging 50 points a game. Yeah, he was 40. People thought he was. Oh, man, that was an anomaly. He'd never do that again. So he said, you know what? What? I'm gonna average 44 and 27 the next year after averaging 50 and 25.
- [73:13]
Ocho
Man, I got a Question. And I mean. I mean no disrespect. I haven't been able to see the footage.
- [73:19]
Unknown
Yes.
- [73:20]
Ocho
Of him back then at the time, obviously, being able to average 27 a game, whatever it might have been.
- [73:25]
Unknown
Right.
- [73:26]
Ocho
Is there a comparison to him, And I mean this in no disrespectful way. Is there a comparison to him in today's basketball game? And the first thing that comes to mind is Wimby. From an athletic standpoint, is there any kind of comparison or.
- [73:39]
Unknown
No go.
- [73:41]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You got to realize he could run. He could run a sub. He could run damn near 49 seconds into 400 meters.
- [73:47]
Unknown
Yeah.
- [73:47]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He could shot put 50ft. He could hijab almost seven feet. No, no, there's no comparison. Now, maybe Shaq, because Shaq is more athletic than you think.
- [73:57]
Unknown
Yeah.
- [73:57]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
People don't realize that because you look when it was smaller, you look at Shaq. No, but Shaq was really, really athletic. Shaq could catch, Shaq could run. Now, I'm not saying he had will speed, but Shaq.
- [74:09]
Unknown
But he was the closest. He was the closest.
- [74:11]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes.
- [74:12]
Unknown
Yes.
- [74:12]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay. Yes.
- [74:13]
Unknown
Yeah. He was the closest. No question. Yeah. What was unbelievable, bro. Yeah.
- [74:18]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I mean, he ran the 400 meters, he threw the shot put. He.
- [74:23]
Unknown
Everything.
- [74:24]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [74:27]
Unknown
He had a lot of. A lot of numbers. And. No. Okay. I ain't going there.
- [74:30]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Go ahead, Mitch. We're gonna get you out of here on this one. Okay?
- [74:34]
Unknown
Who. Who.
- [74:36]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Your MVP, and who is gonna get the Larry O'Brien trophy.
- [74:43]
Unknown
Man? Larry O'Brien.
- [74:45]
Ocho
I know.
- [74:45]
Unknown
I know for sure. Shay has to get it this year.
- [74:49]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You mean the mvp?
- [74:50]
Unknown
Yeah, the mvp. No question about it. You know, that team is number one. They've been winning all year. He's been showing up, showing out for the last two years in a big way. No question about it. I think that shay would get MVP. Now, the O'Brien trophy, man, I don't even know. Give me the criterias on that.
- [75:14]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, you got. Okay. You got Boston Thunder. Who gonna win the championship this year?
- [75:19]
Unknown
Oh, man. Jesus.
- [75:22]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He.
- [75:24]
Unknown
Come on. Oh, man, that's a. That's. Man, that's a tough one, bro. I. If I have to go back, I would have to go back to the defending champions so I wouldn't get myself in trouble. You know what I mean? So I would have to go back to the defending champions. I think what changes is who they meet in the finals this year, you know? So. So honestly, bro, I think the Lakers have a good chance to get into the finals this year. I think I would say that in the beginning of the year. No question about it. But do you see OKC and the Lakers in their Western Conference finals?
- [76:03]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I do.
- [76:04]
Unknown
Championship.
- [76:05]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I do.
- [76:07]
Unknown
That can't be down.
- [76:09]
Ocho
I like that. But if you see the Lakers and OKC in the Western Conference finals, who you got winning the finals, though, to go to the. To the championship?
- [76:19]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Lakers in five.
- [76:23]
Unknown
That's it. Yeah, we got. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.
- [76:27]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
All right.
- [76:29]
Unknown
What is that? What's their record this year? Well, what is the split between OKC, OKC and Lakers?
- [76:36]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What. What is it, 1 and 3? See, I would like that matchup had they not thrown Luke out of the ball game. I don't know why they throw Luke out. Because the official, he was on one. He knew Luca was talking to that fan that was chirping in his ear, so he just hit a three. Why the hell he gonna yell something to the official?
- [76:57]
Unknown
That's true. But you. You coming up with a lot of excuses over there, though.
- [77:03]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, that's all right. Hey, you. We dropped him by 27. Okay, you saw that. Would everybody play?
- [77:08]
Unknown
We talked about that. Yeah, I saw that one.
- [77:11]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay, okay, okay. All right. Okay. You saw it. So I don't need offer without explanation. Okay, Mitch, anything you got to promote, tell them, tell us how to chat, how they can find you on social media.
- [77:22]
Unknown
I mean, you can find me on Mitch. Mitch Rock Richmond 23. I got a lot of things coming up. You know, we got a podcast. I mean, I'm getting ready to get my podcast going. Also. We have a. We have a documentary coming with Run tmc.
- [77:35]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay.
- [77:36]
Unknown
We'd be looking for that. And, yeah, you can find me at Mitch Rock Richmond23. Appreciate you guys on IG.
- [77:45]
Ocho
Hey, matter of fact, matter of fact, speaking of you, you did pick the basketball up a little bit, huh? You still pick the basketball up a little bit and play a little bit.
- [77:53]
Unknown
Once in a while. What's up?
- [77:55]
Ocho
Okay, now I'll be just checking because I got a few people on the hit list that I. That I got to beat. I just want to join. I just want to know if you.
- [78:02]
Unknown
Want to join that hit list, Chad. Anytime, bro. Come on. Okay. Come on.
- [78:09]
Ocho
Listen, I'm not trying to say you handicap, but I'm a handicap. It for you just to give you an advice.
- [78:15]
Unknown
You ain't giving me no handicaps. No handicaps. You got the handicap. You gonna have a handicap. You gonna have a handicap.
- [78:25]
Ocho
Hold on, Mitch, I scored 56 as a freshman all the way to senior year in high school. You score, what, 56 points a game.
- [78:34]
Unknown
56 points a game?
- [78:36]
Ocho
Yeah.
- [78:37]
Unknown
Who? Beach High?
- [78:39]
Ocho
Yeah, yeah, you know, Beach High. Over there on South Beach. Yeah, that was me checking the record book.
- [78:44]
Unknown
I don't see none of that. I don't see none of that.
- [78:47]
Ocho
Okay, I know you don't see, but you ain't Rachel.
- [78:49]
Unknown
No, no, I'm just saying. I mean, you might have done it, but I don't see none of that. That don't scare me.
- [78:54]
Ocho
Okay, we going 11 points. I'll meet you at. Wait, where you at? What city you in right now? You la.
- [78:58]
Unknown
I'm in la, but I'll be down in Fort Lauderdale soon.
- [79:03]
Ocho
Soon. Take too long for me.
- [79:06]
Unknown
You'll be okay. Well, let's do it.
- [79:08]
Ocho
LA Fitness. Matter of fact, no, I want the people to see. So Venice Beach. Venice Beach.
- [79:14]
Unknown
Okay, hold on here. Go to handicap hell here with a handicap. I ain't playing on no damn concrete, homie.
- [79:19]
Ocho
Why? What's the problem?
- [79:20]
Unknown
No, no, no, no. I gotta. Yeah, we making excuses that we playing in the gym.
- [79:29]
Ocho
No, no, I don't want to play in the gym. I want to play outside so that people can see what I do to you.
- [79:33]
Unknown
Oh, well, I'm out.
- [79:34]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm out.
- [79:35]
Unknown
You gonna get the rules? You can't pick the rule. I gotta get the rules. I want to play inside the gym. Home.
- [79:40]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Come on.
- [79:41]
Ocho
But ain't nobody gonna be able to see inside the gym, Mitch. Well, don't be scared.
- [79:44]
Unknown
We're gonna live stream it, okay? Right.
- [79:48]
Ocho
Okay.
- [79:50]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
All right.
- [79:52]
Ocho
You want to put some money on it? To 11. To 11. You lose.
- [79:54]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Lose.
- [79:55]
Unknown
Okay, let's do it. How much you put?
- [79:57]
Ocho
Matter of fact. Hey, this is the fun thing about it, right?
- [79:59]
Unknown
Yeah. I ain't.
- [80:00]
Ocho
I'm not even gonna go mid range. And I ain't gonna post your ass up cause you're too little.
- [80:04]
Unknown
Damn.
- [80:04]
Ocho
I'm gonna do everything from the outside.
- [80:06]
Unknown
Really? Yeah.
- [80:09]
Ocho
You ain't even see me on defense, so that's the part you bring. You're gonna be frustrated because you ain't gonna be able to score.
- [80:14]
Unknown
Okay? So you know what I'm gonna do? I'm not gonna shoot no jumpers. I'm going straight inside.
- [80:21]
Ocho
How you gonna get past me?
- [80:22]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I know I'm gonna back you down.
- [80:24]
Unknown
Ain't getting past you. I don't need a passion.
- [80:26]
Ocho
How you gonna back me down, man?
- [80:29]
Unknown
This shoulder. This shoulder, bro.
- [80:32]
Ocho
Ain't you too little, bro? Hey, hey, hey.
- [80:35]
Unknown
You better tell them to go watch some film. What you talking about? I watch you.
- [80:40]
Ocho
I got your Jersey?
- [80:41]
Unknown
What you talking about? But that's where I started at, homie. I started in that paint. Okay, all right, all right, all right, all right. I love you.
- [80:50]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, Mitch, thank you for joining us, man. Hey, come back and join us soon, Mitch. All right, man.
- [80:54]
Unknown
You guys be good, man. Appreciate you. Thanks.
- [80:56]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Appreciate you, man.
- [80:57]
Unknown
All right, man.
- [80:57]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
See you. The great Mitch Richmond. Hall of Fame Mitch Richmond with the Golden State warriors and the Sacramento King. Hey, Ocho, look here.
- [81:08]
Unknown
Yo.
- [81:09]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, Chad. Look what Penny sent your boy.
- [81:12]
Ocho
Hey, man, here we go again, man.
- [81:15]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You didn't ask for no shoes. I did.
- [81:18]
Ocho
Them the Galaxy ones, right?
- [81:21]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Lucky ain't asked for the paranormal.
- [81:24]
Ocho
Why everybody send you stuff and don't.
- [81:26]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Send two pair because you ain't asked for ish.
- [81:29]
Ocho
I don't need to ask. You supposed to say something for me.
- [81:33]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You this man. You own this with me. All you had to do is say, hey, hey, hey, hey. Peter, send me a pair of two.
- [81:41]
Ocho
What are we doing? Anything you get. We come as a unit. We come together. It's as one ask.
- [81:49]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You don't see me out there. You challenging everybody. You over there challenging everybody to my play a game? I'm trying to get gear. That's me.
- [81:56]
Ocho
Well, listen. Hey, Mitch Richmond. You finna get this work? I show Joe. I know you probably watching. You finna get this work. Kenya Martin, if you don't see me, my cigars. I'm gonna beat your ass.
- [82:09]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Who else?
- [82:10]
Unknown
Who else?
- [82:10]
Ocho
Who else?
- [82:11]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I owe me. That's it, Ocho. You gonna pay my 5200? I'm gonna beat your ass.
- [82:17]
Ocho
Listen, I'll fold you. I'll fold your ass up like a lawn chair. Man, don't do that.
- [82:22]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Not after I see you crumble under 315. You ain't folding up ish.
- [82:26]
Ocho
Oh, no, no, no, no, no. I had did three sets of 225 to warm up, so. Because no, my body not used to that type of weight. I'm just gonna be honest with you. I'm gonna be honest with you.
- [82:34]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I go in there. I go in there cold. I probably. I probably could do. How many times you do? 225.
- [82:40]
Ocho
Only honestly, I'm not even. I'm not gonna sit in live with play with you. I can only do it nine times. Huh?
- [82:44]
Unknown
Once.
- [82:45]
Ocho
Once I get to nine, I can't even hit ten. Hey, them. Them clean. You need some socks, though. You heard me.
- [82:54]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Don't worry about it. You need some shoes.
- [82:59]
Ocho
I thought you said you were.
- [83:01]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I bet it's easier for me to get socks than you to get shoes.
- [83:04]
Ocho
Hold on. I don't want the Galaxy kind. I want the all the.
- [83:07]
Unknown
All the.
- [83:07]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
All blue. Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The original.
- [83:11]
Ocho
The original phone project.
- [83:12]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [83:14]
Ocho
Damn, man.
- [83:15]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I started asking for the paranormals, but.
- [83:18]
Ocho
These y'all don't give me nothing, man.
- [83:21]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ocho, Chad, did y'all see Ocho? Was I on here by myself with Penny or was Ocho on this channel?
- [83:29]
Ocho
I don't want to. I don't want to be rude. I don't want to be rude if you ask. I don't want to follow up and behind and be like, oh, yeah, can I get a pair of two?
- [83:36]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay. Let somebody come on and ask for something. And you asked for it. I was. Hey, bro, send your boy one of them things too.
- [83:42]
Ocho
That's rude. I don't want to be rude.
- [83:44]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Well, I'm going to be rude.
- [83:45]
Ocho
I mean, I would think you would. I mean, you would be gracious enough to ask your co host asking me. You know, me and Unc. Me and Ocho have this show. If you send me one, can you send him one too? Guess what I would do.
- [83:58]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You ain't never asked for ish.
- [84:01]
Ocho
I don't ask for them because I'm thinking, you know, you're leading it. You're leading to the conversation with it.
- [84:07]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So it's my fault you ain't got no shoes.
- [84:09]
Ocho
Now you got my funko. You got all awards.
- [84:14]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You got the awards. You got. Hold on. You got what? You got the plaque. You got 100,000 plaque and you got a million plaque. You got all the webbies. You got two Webbies also.
- [84:26]
Ocho
Okay.
- [84:28]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And you stole a webbing.
- [84:30]
Ocho
I did, I did. I did. But it's not the real one, though. I did. It's cool. It's cool.
- [84:39]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And I think we gonna get some more weddings this year.
- [84:41]
Ocho
For real?
- [84:42]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I think so.
- [84:43]
Ocho
Hey, are we gonna go? Cause I. I got this nice suit I wanna wear. It's peach.
- [84:48]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We'll see.
- [84:50]
Ocho
Yeah, yeah, let me know. Cause I just wanna get on stage. I just wanna. I want people to see my outfit.
- [84:55]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It. Oh, you know, you only get five words.
- [84:58]
Ocho
Yeah, and I'm g. Say the same thing I said last year. I love you guys.
- [85:05]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm gonna say, pay me my 5200. That's my. That's my speech. Hey.
- [85:16]
Ocho
Hey. Can I. Can I tell you something? I think I. I bought something else.
- [85:24]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hold on.
- [85:25]
Ocho
I need. I need to work truck. So, you know I had a Suburban, right? You know I had a Suburban Yeah, so I just traded my. My Suburban in, and I just got a cyber truck. That's not bad. I'm trying to. I'm worried about the environment. So I went. I went electric. So it was for a good cause. Now, I'm not saying. Listen, I don't support. I mean, I'm not a supporter, and, you know, people don't like that. I'm not worried about the individual itself. I just like the truck because it fits me. The truck is ugly, and I'm ugly.
- [86:02]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Man. This man here, this man by Chad. Y'all see this? Now y'all talking about, man. Man, you need to start ultra. Man, don't do ocho like that.
- [86:13]
Unknown
That.
- [86:13]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Y'all see, this man now, this man done bought a Lambo. This man done bought a cyber truck. This man done got a new house. He done bought furniture and ain't pay me my 5200 chat.
- [86:24]
Ocho
Hold on, hold on. But what about my kids? How they gonna eat?
- [86:27]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You ain't think about that when you buying $700,000 cars.
- [86:31]
Ocho
I know, but I'm using the 5200 to feed my kids.
- [86:34]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay, Y'all see what I'm talking about? Y'all see how this man. This man performing a Shakespearean play right in my damn face. And y'all. And y'all Kiki kid right there along with him. What kind of bull.
- [86:49]
Ocho
Hey, listen, My daughter graduated from Prairie View A M in May. My son graduate the following day from Arizona State. So think about how far that 5200 could take me for them to be able to give my daughter flowers when she graduated from Prairie View A and.
- [87:04]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
M. That's not as far as 700,000. Could have took it.
- [87:07]
Mitch Richmond
You.
- [87:08]
Ocho
Huh?
- [87:09]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You should have took that money. Say, you know what? I'mma hold off. I'mma hold off. I ain't gonna even get this car. I'mma wait, because, you know, I owe UN 5200. I'm gonna go ahead and break Unc off.
- [87:21]
Ocho
Hey, but I'm. I'mma give. I'mma give your money at the Baltimore show live. Cash my.
- [87:30]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I want my money tomorrow.
- [87:33]
Ocho
What if you would download any of the apps that I asked you to download to make the transaction easy, you would have got your money seven months ago.
- [87:42]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What y'all think about this?
- [87:44]
Ocho
How many months?
- [87:45]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
This man doing Shakespeare in my face. That's a play. I mean, what. Denzel's on Broadway. What is he doing?
- [87:53]
Unknown
What?
- [87:53]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Denzel?
- [87:54]
Ocho
Oh, I went O. Yeah, well, honestly, you know what? Just. Just. Just to give you better Context. You know I took, I took drama and theater in high school too.
- [88:05]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Now yeah it bout to be some drama still about to be the struggle so. But this ain't no actor here. Boy. I love it. The volume. Ah, come on. Why is this taking so long? This thing is ancient.
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Mitch Richmond
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
This thing moves.
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Hello darlings. Pack your suitcase for a new season of the Hulu original reality series Vanderpump Villa.
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Let's do this.
- [90:50]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ciao. It's Stassi. Of course. Lisa brought in her favorite to be resident chaperone of the castle.
- [90:57]
Unknown
Stassi is an icon. She's my eyes and ears.
- [91:00]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I love this.
- [91:01]
Unknown
Get ready for the light, luxury and.
- [91:03]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Drama that awaits us in Italy.
- [91:06]
Ocho
Cheers to all the toxic couples in the castle.
- [91:08]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Season two of Vanderpump Villa premieres April 24th. Streaming on Hulu.