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Nightcap Hour 1: Indiana HOOSIERS STUN Ohio State in Big10 CHAMPIONSHIP + Georgia MANHANDLE Bama for SEC crown + Georgia RB Nate Fraizer joins NIGHTCAP + Big12 Champ and Texas Tech DE Romello Height joins NIGHTCAP
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Hello, ladies and gentlemen and thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. As you watch the Indiana Hoosers do what many didn't think they could outside of the state of Indiana and in that locker room, they go in and they win the big team Big Ten.
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Championship by the score of 1310 over the number one Buckeyes, who's trying to win it back to back consecutive years and going to the national champion. Indiana's good. They're very good. They're better than I even previously thought. You know, Ojo, we talked about him, he's like, maybe it's the level of competition, but after watching them tonight go toe to toe and we know what Ohio State has to offer offensively, defensively, those skill set players, those players. Yes, it really shouldn't have been that close. Had Ohio State defense not been on their game, that game would have been a blowout because Indiana was going up and down the field. They selling for field goals in the red zone.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
But yeah, they, they, they were able to go up, up and down the field at will too. And defensively they played really good ball. If you look at, if you look at, hey, if you look at the, not the players, the players and where they're from, the type of players that Indiana has, they got a bunch of dogs. They got a bunch of dogs, a bunch of, bunch of players out from California, they got a lot of them from Miami down here, from down south. So they have the right. And the fact that they were able to get those type of players to go to Indiana says a lot is one of the reasons why they look the way they did against Ohio State.
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Shannon Sharpe
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Champion Georgia running back Nate Frazier and Texas Tech Romello Height joining us a little bit later. But first, you watch the Indiana Hoosiers win the Big Ten championship by the score of 13 to 1310 over Ohio State. They were the number two team. They'll be number one. They'll be number one going into the College Football Playoff. Now we see why Signetti didn't even entertain anything. Any other offers? He does have, yes. Jimmy Sexton as his agent. Sure, LSU would have loved to have him. Penn State would have loved to have it any other job. But now you see why he stayed put. He realized what he has. He's like, you know what? I can contend for a national championship right here at IU, and I can get $11 million right here at IU. I don't need to go anywhere and try to revitalize a program when I can stay right here and stay with the program that I built. He built this program. They have the second most losses in NCAA history over 700, almost 800 losses. It's gonna be a long. It's gonna be a while before they get to 800 losses, but they have. I think they have 775. I think they put that on the screen. But when you look at this team, Ocho, when you look at them offensively, you look at them defensively, that's what I was most impressed with. Because you see a team put up 50 points, 60 points, 70 points. You know, they got pretty good Offense, but the defense to do what they did to that team. When's the last time Ohio State scored 10 points in a ball game or the entirety of a ball game with those weapons that they got offensively that they have? Man, you got to tip your hat. I. You. I tip my hat, Coach Zignetti. Hey, hell of a job, coach. Hell of a job.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah. And the funny thing about it is coaching is one thing, but like, just like boxing styles and personnel, it helps you win. As great as the players are offensively for Ohio State, Indiana, the Hoosiers, the defense, the defensive players at their, at those specific positions, you know, as far as the DBs going against those, Those elite receivers, they have the personnel to be able to stifle that offense the way they did today because of the personnel that they do have. They played extremely well. And the onus to me on this win is more on the defense as opposed to it is offense, because you.
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Shannon Sharpe
See the way they got after saying they sacked him five times, they pressured him numerous times. And I think the thing oo, when you, when you look at it, I think the difference between this year and last year, they were not in all the moment. They were just happy to be there. IU had never been to a Big Ten championship. Nobody expect. They sprung up out of nowhere. They're like, you know, oh, they tear a building down and they like, damn, when did they put that. When did they put that back there? When did they put that shopping center there? They just came out of nowhere this year. They expected to be there. They weren't in awe of the moment. They wanted to prove that this year wasn't a fluke like last year was. A lot of people thought last year was a fluke. I thought it was because I never thought Indiana, that's a basketball school, would be where they are. Indiana is a basketball state where it used to be before Peyton Manning, it was a basketball in the Indianapolis 500 state. But now with Peyton coming there as a football state and now with iu, right. Oh, my goodness. Coach Signetti, you know, you tip your hat to him because he did an unbelievable job, an unbelievable job of scouting, recruiting, getting the staff together. Fernando Mendoza, I believe he's going to win the Heisman. I think what he did tonight, he was. I think he was the betting favorite coming in, saying was right there on his tail. But I think with what he did tonight and what he's done all year, I think he's more than. More than earned the right. Ain't no more deserving. Yeah, he's more than earned the right to be the Heisman trophy winner of 2025, so he's definitely getting an invitation. And I believe he will be the winner of the 2025 Heisman Trophy when it's presented at the Downtown Athletic Club. Clearly, this is the biggest win in IU history. They took down the team. I don't know when the last time. I mean, they were. They were the defending Big Ten champs. They were defending national champs, and they beat them. They were more physical. They were more. It's not often because Indiana got a lot of. I mean, excuse me, Ohio State has a lot of guys that's going to play on Sunday. Caleb Downs, they got Jeremiah. Jeremiah Smith, they've got a lot of. Hey, that Kaden Curry, number 92, he's gonna play on Sunday.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yes, sir.
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Shannon Sharpe
He gonna play on Sunday. They got a lot of guys gonna play. And for Indiana to come in there and be just as physical, if not more physical, to be as disciplined, if not more disciplined to what Ohio State was, you gotta tip your hat to Indiana. They. They. They earned this victory. They. They left no doubt. They left no doubt. This is the best team in the country.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah. And. And the game, especially a game of this magnitude, you know, is one up front. Is one up front. The game is one in the trenches, and that's exactly what they won. And then defensively, the Hoosiers weren't as good. They. They weren't. They weren't scared to be able to blitz either, because you. Most of the time, we do blitz. Hell, you put your back in. You put your back in in harm's way. But listen, the back end play so goddamn well. They had no problem being able to do so. So, listen, tell you the truth, I was surprised. I was surprised that Indiana. I. I knew. I understood the players that they had. I understood the personnel that they had, but I didn't know they were this good. I didn't know they were this good. Yeah, and this was this.
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Shannon Sharpe
You know, look, we talk about Indiana and we had. I think we had pawns on. Did we have him on the DB from Indiana? Wasn't he on earlier this year?
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
And, and, and, you know, he was talking about. And, And I think the thing is, Ocho, is that, like I say, they score 70 points, they score 50 points, they're beating Big Ten opponents by 50 plus points a game. And I'm just thinking, okay, what about the level of competition we're going to see when they have to play Ohio State? I apologize, Chad. I Spoke Oregon was the defending Big Ten champs. Not, not Ohio State. They got in because India, Oregon had beat them in Oregon and then they played Oregon later and they beat the brakes off Oregon. But that's neither here nor there. This is Indiana first outright Big Ten title since 1945. I don't know how many in the chat was alive when, when Indiana won the last Big Ten championship, but.
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They look this was as an impressive performance that I've seen this year the way they went in and like I said, I believe the biggest difference between this year and last year. They were not in awe. They were not in awe of Ohio State. They hey, the buck guys and the defending champs and they got all these guys, they got a 20 million dollar roster. Okay, fine and good. But at the end of the day, no matter how much a guy has in his bank account, he still has to go out to perform. I don't care if you got anything, I don't care what level you are. At the end of the day, your bank account ain't got nothing to do with what you're doing on this field. You still got the form, you got that money and deservedly so. But Indiana said, you know what guys we got, we got, we, we got, we got 60 minutes to prove who's the better team.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah. And money and money don't matter at that point. Not in between the lines. In between them lines. That money don't matter.
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Shannon Sharpe
Nope.
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Ohio State suffered its first loss of the season. Kurt Signetti has completed one of the greatest turnarounds in college football history. Man, if you go back and think about what coach, Coach Saban had on his staff, from Coach Signetti to Lane Kiffin to Kirby Smart to Crystal Ball to Dan Landing with a grad assistant to Mel Tucker, right? You look at what he had, Billy Napier, it's hard to find you. Hard. It's hard to find a better coaching tree than that in college football.
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And with that being said, man, I'm just impressed. I'm just impressed with Indiana because of what I what to, to actually sit down and just watch them on your. Because a lot of times, you know, they, I think they played who they played Georgia State or somebody and they beat them 70 to 70 to 7.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
And they beat 73.
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Shannon Sharpe
They beating team 60 10. I'm like, man, what am I gonna get out of this? I said, I want to see them play. The only time they were really put to the test is that they had on fourth down. They had to make that catch against, I think it was Penn State. That was really the only time that we really saw them tested. I said, well, you know what?
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Right.
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Shannon Sharpe
They're going to be in the Big Ten championship opposite of Ohio State, and we're going to find out if they're for real or not. And I think that's what everybody was waiting and watching for. Let's see how well they. Let's see. Go up against the Buckeyes. Big old age.
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Malcolm Gladwell
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, they showed up. They showed up. Hey, I know this is very impressive, but, but for, for you as a coach, turning a, turning a, A team around like this and, and winning the Big Ten, is this the best turnaround you've seen in college football, being that it's a basketball school that you've ever seen?
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes, yes, yes.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Okay.
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Shannon Sharpe
Because Coach Saban turned around Alabama. Alabama had already won eight, nine national championships.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Okay? Right.
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Shannon Sharpe
Ohio State. Everybody know Ohio State. And when they, what they were. And winning, like at the level in Michigan, everybody know those were prominent programs. This is a basketball school, right? This is a basketball school. And, and I'm sure now people are looking like, hey, Coach. Coach Belichick.
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You had a basketball school. What you got? You see what Coach Signetti did with iu?
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, that's, that's not fair. Come on, man.
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Shannon Sharpe
I'm just saying that's gonna be the.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I got you. Yeah, I got you.
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Shannon Sharpe
No, look, it's the first year. I mean, Coach Signetta didn't do this in his first year. It took time. But that's the level of expectations that fans and people are going to boosters and alumni. That's what they're going to have. You're the greatest coach in NFL history. You go to a basketball school and we saw what Signetti did at iu. This is what they're going to expect from Coach Belichick. If he stays, I don't know what's going to happen, but if he stays there, that's what they're going to expect. But iu, what? Hey, Ocho, that third down call. Yeah, that third down call. And that cat by Charlie Becker and that throw by Mendoza, that call by Signetti, that's clutch.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
That's clutch. If you look, if you look in the dictionary, you look up the definition of clutch, that play, that play itself should be inserted right there as visual reference. And what clutch is, they needed that. I mean, I. In Ohio State. Ohio State didn't help themselves. That four down that you needed to convert the, the shank field goal. I mean, all those put you behind.
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Shannon Sharpe
Well, I, I, you Missed the field goal, too. The guy shank One red zone mistake by Ohio State on the fourth and one at the five, they get zero points. Third and one at the nine, they get zero points. And IU got a they. You know, we talk about defenses and we talk about Georgia's defense and what they're able to do. Yeah, don't sleep on IU now. Sleep on you.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Absolutely.
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Shannon Sharpe
It had been very interesting, like I said, I thought Indiana could have really put some pressure on IU early because they were getting into the red zone and they're having to score. Settle for three, and they have to settle for field goals. I'm like, boy, that's gonna bite y' all in the butt. Y' all need to put this. Y' all need to put some pressure on this team. You're not going to put them away in the first half because you still have a whole half a football to go, but you can put them under extreme duress, and that's what you want to see when you play a team like Ohio State. The longer I can get you out in the deep water because you hadn't been there in a while, you say you could swim.
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But that's in a pool, right? Let me take you out in the ocean where you got current. You got rip tides.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yes, sir.
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Shannon Sharpe
You got sharks. You got other things around you.
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Can you swim in this body of water? That's what I.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Different ball game.
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Shannon Sharpe
The longer this game got on, the longer this game went. And Indiana was attached to him and then they got the lead.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Hold on. Where was the last time.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Confidence.
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Shannon Sharpe
When was the last time Ohio State was in a game? Here we are in the third quarter, early fourth quarter, and they're behind or team is this close to them.
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It's been a while.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
It don't do nothing but give you confidence, too. It don't do number. Give you confidence. It give not just the coaching staff, but those players understanding where they are in this game. Well, hell, this is the mighty. This is the mighty Ohio State. You mean to tell me we right here playing ball with them quarter to quarter, down to down? I mean, we could do this.
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Shannon Sharpe
That kid's tough.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
And they came out. They came out on top.
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Shannon Sharpe
And Mendoza, the first player, what was that? The first player, the second player of the game, he rolled out, got hit.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
On the right, that right shoulder.
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Shannon Sharpe
And I think that was. I think that was. Hold on. That was that number 92. That was Kaden Curry.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
That hit him, right, that 92. Yeah, that was him again.
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Shannon Sharpe
92 out there because you know what I'm saying? Oh, you like he. He saw him at the last second, but you couldn't brace. You can't brace for that. Put that shoulder. Knock the air out. Everybody's like, oh, Lord. And. But give those guys credit. They came out for and picked and picked him off, set him up for and got him in field goal range. Ooh. It's gonna be very interesting to see how this thing play out. We're gonna talk about this, but Alabama.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
They didn't belong in that field with Georgia. No, they didn't belong on the field with Georgia. I don't care what nobody say. I understand how the first game went at the beginning of the season. I understand how it went. But that means nothing. That means nothing. When you. The first game of the season. I'm not even gonna count that. I'm not gonna count that. Because you as a team, you aren't even into yourself yet. You haven't found your stride. You haven't found your stride. So when you play in the last game of the season, one that matters most, one as important as this, obviously, with college playoffs on the line, that's when you're supposed to play your best football towards the end of the season and when you're normally playing your best football. What we saw today from Alabama. That's unacceptable. That's unacceptable. And I still think that the committee's going to find a way to make sure they're in the college playoffs.
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Shannon Sharpe
They said they're not gonna punish teams for losing in the college. If you're champ in your conference championship Ocho. But I call this the Alabama hadn't looked good for the last month. I told y', all, everybody, man, get off Ty Simpson. Get off. Ty Simpson. I see Ty Simpson is playing bad. Go back and look at Alabama's office the last month. I don't care what you say. And he made a cardinal sin. It's fourth down. You cannot throw the ball out of bounds. If it's out of bounds, it's incomplete. Even if it's. Give your guy a chance. You didn't give him a damn chance. You threw it out of bounds. And then you looking like, yeah, what? You probably should have took the back on the rim.
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Guys. Guys are making mistakes that I shouldn't have to tell a quarterback not to throw the ball out of bounds. I shouldn't have on fourth down. I shouldn't have to tell you that. Give the guy a chance.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I mean, and especially for the quarterback, even if your coach doesn't tell you what to do. It's all about understanding the situation. Situational awareness. Situational awareness. That's what it comes down to. Knowing that you can't throw the ball out of bounds. I have to give whoever I choose to throw the ball to. I got to give him a chance. You have to. And to just throw it. Throw it out of bounds. It makes no sense.
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Shannon Sharpe
It drives me crazy to see guys on fourth down throw the ball at the end zone. What do you hell you hoping? Are you worried about your completion percentage? You worried about not throwing an interception? Tell me what you hope to accomplish by throwing the ball out of the end zone or throwing the ball out of bounds on fourth down. Tell me what you gain from that. Tell me, how does that help the team? And I'm like, bro, I know this. I'm saying. I say, I know this kid did not just throw this ball out of bounds.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, and.
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Shannon Sharpe
And. And I'm. I don't know who's calling the plays, but how many times are you guys gonna go scat protection and go, let Georgia blitz you?
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I'm. I'm. I'm confused. I think. I think. Let's go ahead and get to this game. Ocho. Let's get to the Georgia game.
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Malcolm Gladwell
Hello.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hello.
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Malcolm Gladwell
I'm Malcolm Gladwell, host of the podcast Smart Talks with IBM. I recently sat down with IBM's chairman and CEO Arvind Krishna, and I asked him, how can companies use AI to its fullest potential to create smarter business? My one advice to them, pick areas you can scale. Don't pick the shiny little toys on the side. For example, if anybody has more than 10% of what they had for customer service 10 years ago, they're already five years behind. If anybody is not using AI to make their developers who write software 30% more productive today with the goal of being 70% more productive. Yeah.
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Nate Frazier
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Malcolm Gladwell
So we are not asking our clients to be the first experiment on it. We say you can leverage what we did. We are happy to bring out all our learnings, including what needs to change in the process. Because the biggest change is not technology. It's getting people to accept that there's a different way to do things. To listen to the full conversation, visit IBM.com smarttalks.
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- [28:04]
Julian Edelman
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- [28:52]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yes sir.
- [28:55]
Shannon Sharpe
George Allen at the Kirby Smart Team has dropped seven of their previous Eight games against the Crimson Tide. The number three Bulldog flip the script and put on a dominant performance in the SEC championship game. And the Mercedes Benz don't Mercedes Benz Stadium in Atlanta. By securing the second straight SEC title, the Bulldogs finished 12 and one and likely secure the top four seed. I think they're going to be the number two seed. That's me personally. But now the here nor there. Maybe they leave. Maybe they leave Ohio stated too, but I think they're going to be number two. It's the first time Georgia's won back to back SEC championships since Herschel Walker led the Bulldogs to three straight in 1980. 82. They won the national championship in 1980 over Notre Dame. And then they lost a couple of them in the way. I think they lost in 81 and 82. I think they lost 82 to Penn State, if I'm not mistaken.
- [29:48]
And what you were talking about, Ocho.
- [29:52]
Do you realize Alabama ran the ball 16 times for minus 3 yards? Ocho?
- [29:57]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, absolutely, absolutely. I mean statistically, you look at the stats and you don't look at the scoreboard. You know Alabama lost this game. You know they lost this game. I mean, I mean Tyler Simpson was 19 for what 39, one TD, one interception for 212. But you look at everything, everything else. Statistically, you know, they lost this game. It's no way they won that game. Man. Georgia, Georgia was dominant in all three phases of the game, all three. Defense, offense, hell, special teams. I'm surprised Alabama even was able to get seven points tonight.
- [30:31]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Based on and again.
- [30:35]
Returners. You see Alabama return of, you put your heels at 10. If the ball goes over your head, you're like, coach, I made the 10.
- [30:42]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Let it go.
- [30:43]
Shannon Sharpe
How you feeling? You fair catching a punt like you doing something special at the five. You fumble it and now you got the ball at the three.
- [30:54]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Stuff like that cost you, huh? Stuff like that cost you at every level. You know, you put your heels on the 10. Anything that goes over your head or past that, you let go. You wave everybody ass off. They get out the way and you let the ball go. If they, if they happen to touch the ball inside, inside, inside the five before crosses, that's not on you. That's not on you.
- [31:19]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, they look, Georgia look like the superior team. They play like a superior team. I don't think, look, I, I, there's no amount of money, there's no amount of odds you could have given me to take Alabama based on what I've seen Alabama playing like the last month. So there's no way. Looking at what George. How Georgia has played the last month, looking at how Alabama had played the last month, you'd have been a fool to take Alabama to be. And I. I get it, man. That's what we do. And we. The record. Look at what we've done to Georgia in the last. I get all of that. I get all of that. But normally, when you doing this to Georgia, you're playing well going into that game. Y' all not playing well. And you hadn't played well for a month. Ty Simpson has not played well for a month. That running game has been bad all year.
- [32:10]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yes.
- [32:11]
Shannon Sharpe
There's only. Your defense is only going to be able to withstand so. So much. So much. Yeah.
- [32:20]
But Gunnar Stockton, 20th 26, 156, three touchdowns. They ran the ball 41 times for 141 yards. I mean, it was just. It was just a complete demolition. They sacked Stockton three times. They pressured him numerous times.
- [32:39]
Georgia's gonna have to fight. Excuse me. Alabama's gonna have to find a running game. They got to. Ocho, look.
- [32:45]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, hold on. Hold on. It's too late now. You talking about finding the running game right now, this late? Oh, well, you got. You got to get you a back. Jameer Gibbs ain't walking through that room. Jameer Gibbs is not walking back. Trent Richardson not walking back through there with Mark Ingram is not walking back through that room. So if you're gonna find one, you're gonna have to find someone special. You have to. You're gonna have to. You got. You got to go get him. You got to take him somewhere else. The type of back that Alabama needs right now is not out there. I don't know.
- [33:12]
Shannon Sharpe
Well, not enough. I don't know. The. The guy that we had come on that. That came on with us, he broke his jaw. He has some elusiveness. He has some speed. Yeah, but these other guys. Man and receivers, the.
- [33:27]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, our. Our boy. Our boy dropped. Our boy dropped a good one, man. Went right through his hand, man.
- [33:33]
Shannon Sharpe
Jeremy Bernard. He did. He did. He dropped it. Okay.
- [33:37]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I'm talking about. I'm talking about Ryan, too.
- [33:40]
Nate Frazier
Ryan.
- [33:40]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Ryan dropped a good one right through his. Went right through his hands A little bit. They know.
- [33:43]
Shannon Sharpe
A little bit. Oh, I mean, I. I don't. Look.
- [33:48]
Five years ago, six years ago, before the nil and guys weren't making money, we'd give him grace, right? He's a professional. He just happened. He just have to be in college, but he's making money. He's making three, four million dollars. He's making two and a half to three million dollars a year. There's a level of expectation that comes along when you get paid. Ain't no more. But he young.
- [34:10]
I bet his bank take direct deposit. He ain't too young to have a checking account. He ain't too young to have a banking account.
- [34:18]
I get it, I get it. Ocho. He's 18 years of age. But you can't convince me that this something is not either something physically wrong or emotionally wrong with this young man. Yeah, it started towards last year, Ocho. But this precipitous drop, Ocho, I don't even recognize him. And half the time he not even on the field. Ocho.
- [34:39]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, yeah. I mean, obviously, you know, I don't, I don't, I don't know anybody at Alabama. I, I don't. And most of the time I've watched him on film. I'm, I think about what he did last year, and I watched some of the highlights before Alabama played today, and I watched what he did last year and every week it was like, what the hell? And what it reminded me of is the excitement that Randy Moss, the excitement that Peter Ward brought to the game of college football, because it's the type of player, it gave you that experience like people had that lived in Atlanta when Michael Vick was playing, when he gets, when he has the ball in his hands, and when the ball is in his hands, you don't know what the hell is going to happen. Something special going to happen. So to have that excitement from him last year and then this year it looked the way it does. I don't really understand what that's a, that's not just a drop. That's not just a drop in just production. It just. Something is wrong, and I don't think it has anything to do with football. It has to be something off the field. It has to be something off the field because last year, unknown. There was, there was there, there was a conversation that to be had whether he was the best receiver in college football outside of Jeremiah Smith. It was one and two. It was one and two. And it, it was, it was, it wasn't even close. As far as anyone else is concerned. I, I, I, I don't know what it is, man, but that's somebody. To tell you the truth, Long, he's so great, he's so special at such a young age. That's somebody I would love, I would love to have some type of impact on when it comes to playing the game itself.
- [36:01]
Shannon Sharpe
Well, I hope you can get in touch with him or his people reach out to you. I'm surprised. Maybe they have reached out to someone other than yourself. Obviously no one has reached out to me, but maybe that maybe he does have a mentor or mentors. Maybe he has someone that he can talk to or bounce things off or whatever he's going, whatever he's going through in his life at this current time, Mojo that I hope that he gets that resolved. But this is not the kid that we saw last year. And the thing is is now that we judge these kids differently because we know they're the top level kids, the Jeremiah Smith, the, the, the Arch Mannings, the Ryan Williams, these guys. We know.
- [36:44]
That it's not just you just not getting books, you're not getting just tuition and room and board.
- [36:51]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
- [36:51]
Shannon Sharpe
And so there's a level of expectation. The more you make, the more expected of you. That's what any, like we're not just talking about professional athlete. That's any job, whatever your job is, the more you make, the more is expected of you.
- [37:07]
So I'm just surprised. Caitlin DeBoer said the number nine Crimson ties are deserving of a spot of the college football playoffs, saying that a conference title game loss shouldn't be punishment if this game applies to take to and take away from our resume. I don't think that's right. I really don't. I think the precedent's been set and I don't know how you can go into a conference playoff game when you're the number one seed and did all these things throughout the year and playing in this game, one of the top teams in the country as well and how that can hurt you and keep you out of the playoffs when again we've done what we've done all year. But you look bad over the last month. Coach, you're right.
- [37:51]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I have another question now. I, I, I, I hear what coach is saying and making his argument on why they should be in there. You shouldn't be penalized for playing in a game this magnitude. Obviously an extra game. But will the committee also take strength of schedule into consideration as opposed to everyone else's everyone else schedule.
- [38:09]
Shannon Sharpe
They play Georgia twice. They look at, look at where, look at where.
- [38:15]
Vanderbilt's ranked. They played Oklahoma.
- [38:17]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Right.
- [38:17]
Shannon Sharpe
They played Tennessee.
- [38:21]
So they played, they played powerhouse teams. I mean the strength of schedule, you look at the SEC and what is, you know, look at all the teams. There's a great chance Ole Miss is going to get in Oklahoma Has a very compelling case to get in.
- [38:34]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Right.
- [38:34]
Shannon Sharpe
Vanderbilt, Tennessee says, oh, what about us? We know Georgia's in because they won the SEC championship. Could you have four teams from the sec, maybe even five? Absolutely.
- [38:45]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Right.
- [38:46]
Shannon Sharpe
Absolutely. I think you're only getting two in from the Big Ten, which is IU and Ohio State. Then you got to have Texas Tech. I don't think anybody's getting in from the acc. If I'm not mistaken, I think Duke just beat virginia. Ain't no 8 and 5 team getting into the, the College Football Playoff. So with that being said, so I, I, I think you're going to get Texas Tech, Georgia.
- [39:11]
Iu, Ohio State, Ole Miss.
- [39:15]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
- [39:16]
Shannon Sharpe
Oklahoma. Now, where, where do we start going? You see all these other teams gonna have a compelling claim. We got six other teams that's going to get in. I just, it's just, it's just hard, it's just hard for me to see Alabama. And y' all know what I think about Alabama, but based on what they've done the last month of the season.
- [39:36]
Nah, they, they, they have. I don't believe they've earned the right to, to be in. I don't think for me, Ocho, for me personally and chat. Y' all can disagree if you like. I don't think they're one of the 12 best teams in the country right now. I don't.
- [39:50]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Think so.
- [39:51]
Shannon Sharpe
Nope.
- [39:52]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Do you think there's any chance Miami and Notre Dame get in?
- [40:01]
Shannon Sharpe
I mean. Oh, Texas A M, they got one loss, right? I don't know about us. I, I know, I, I know, I know people, people love, people love Notre Dame, but I just.
- [40:16]
Huh? Yeah, I'm looking. Oh, yeah. So I think Ohio State, Indiana, Georgia, Texas Tech. Then you got Oregon, Ole Miss, Texas A m, all with one loss. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7.
- [40:37]
Do you got Texas? Okay. Okay. Yeah. So that's seven. So if you take the top seven teams that was entering today, I think they're all gonna be in. I think Ohio State, Indiana, Georgia, Texas Tech, Oregon, Ole Miss, Texas A and M, Oklahoma. I think those are no brainers. I really do. Now, okay, you look at Notre Dame, look at Miami. You look at Texas, you look at Vanderbilt.
- [41:05]
I just, you.
- [41:07]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
So you don't see any scenario where Alabama gets in?
- [41:09]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, I can see him getting in. Because people say, well, you know, because they've said, the committee has said, we're not going to hold a conference championship loss against you.
- [41:18]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Against you.
- [41:19]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, okay, okay. Okay. So.
- [41:22]
A and M didn't play for the conference title. Neither did Oregon. Neither did Ole Miss, neither did Oklahoma. Notre Dame doesn't have one. Miami didn't make theirs. Vanderbilt didn't make theirs. Texas didn't make theirs. So we play, we lose. You sitting at home watching us play and then you jump us. I can see what Kayla DeBore is saying. The committee might feel the same way Kaylin DeBore is feeling.
- [41:45]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Right.
- [41:46]
Shannon Sharpe
But just my test, probably. So they're not One of the 12 best teams.
- [41:53]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Damn.
- [41:56]
Shannon Sharpe
They're not. Not in my estimation. Not. Not based on what I've seen over the last month. They're not one of the 12 best teams.
- [42:07]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
It's going to be exciting. It's going to be exciting.
- [42:12]
Gonna be exciting. I can't wait.
- [42:14]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I, I just, like I said, look, I, I think those other teams, I think all the teams that are in the top eight, I think they're going Ohio State, Indiana, Georgia Tech, Texas Tech, Oregon, Ole Miss, Texas A and M, Oklahoma. So that's 1, 2, 3. That's four teams right there from, from the SEC, right?
- [42:38]
Ye.
- [42:40]
All right. We got a very special guest joining us today. He ran for 52 yards and a touchdown today and he helped the number three Georgia Bulldogs with win their consecutive second back to back SEC championship games. Nate Frazier is joining us. Nate, how you doing, man?
- [42:59]
How y' all doing, man? We doing good, man. Why? Hello. Hello. You just win the SEC championship and you in your room. What's really going on? My game room.
- [43:10]
Nate Frazier
B, my dog.
- [43:12]
Shannon Sharpe
You in the game room.
- [43:15]
Paying the camera. Let me make sure you ain't got something off camera. Paying the camera. Let me see the room. Let me see the room. Let me see the room.
- [43:22]
Nate Frazier
Hold on, I'm trying to get it. Hold on, let me get, let me get y right, hold on.
- [43:31]
Shannon Sharpe
This thing tripping.
- [43:36]
Malcolm Gladwell
Hello.
- [43:36]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hello.
- [43:37]
Malcolm Gladwell
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- [44:24]
Nate Frazier
Wow.
- [44:25]
Malcolm Gladwell
So we are not asking our clients to be the first experiment on it. We say you can leverage what we did. We are happy to bring out all our learnings, including what needs to change in the process. Because the biggest change is not technology, it's getting people to accept that there's a different way to do things. To listen to the full conversation, visit IBM.com smart talks.
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- [47:01]
Julian Edelman
This is Julian Edelman from Games With Names. Football is back. That means it's tailgate time and this season the only meat going on the grill is Dietz and Watson. Some of my favorites are the Black Angus deets, dogs, the Italian style chicken, sausage and The Asiago, spinach, chicken, sausage, just to name a few. Oh, and I love the jalapeno mustard. It's flavor packed. And you could just tell Dietz and Watson uses the highest quality meats in every bite. Dietz and Watson was born in Philly in 1939, and they've been doing it the right way ever since. Visit deetsonwatson.com the right way to learn more about the deets difference.
- [47:49]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, see, I know he'll usher out of the room now, Ocho. I don't want to see that.
- [47:56]
He don't.
- [47:57]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
He done told them all to leave.
- [48:01]
Nate Frazier
He gave me an error on my side.
- [48:04]
Shannon Sharpe
You can't be. You can't be slick to a can of oil.
- [48:08]
You. You think you slick. You think. Hey, now. Error. It's an arrow on my part.
- [48:18]
I hear right? You hear about your too much. Don't say that.
- [48:21]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, yeah.
- [48:23]
Odoo Announcer
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- [48:28]
Shannon Sharpe
But.
- [48:31]
Nate had an unbelievable game today. He had 13 carries, 52 yards. He had that touchdown on the the counter. That really, for all intents and purposes, I thought the game was over. The game was over at 14 nothing. Considering that Alabama's offense and we all good. I mean, we would just give you a hard time. We. We know what's really going on.
- [48:49]
I mean, contrary to what you think, man, you know, hey, you know, you know, in late 50s. But I did go to college date. I went to college. You know what I'm saying?
- [49:05]
Nate Frazier
Last thing I'm doing after this is putting my head to a pillow.
- [49:08]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Whoa, hold on, hold on. Y' all just won today, y'. All. No, y' all didn't just win. Y' all dominated. Y' all dominated today. And you go. You going to bed.
- [49:15]
Nate Frazier
I gotta go to sleep with you, you know, go to church in the morning, you know.
- [49:18]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, you going to church in the morning? Church.
- [49:20]
Nate Frazier
I gotta praise the Lord, man.
- [49:22]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, man, that's awesome. That's unbelievable.
- [49:24]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, okay, okay.
- [49:25]
Nate Frazier
Hey, boy.
- [49:25]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, boy. Hey, listen. I like that boy. You got your head on right, boy. You hear me? You got your head on right. Listen, today's game, what did that feel like for y' all to be able to dominate in all three phases of the game, especially offensively? How did that. How did that feel?
- [49:38]
Nate Frazier
It felt crazy, man. It felt like everything we worked hard for, you know, really just paid off. It felt great. It was a great win. I'm so proud of my boys. I'm so proud of my brothers, man. It felt great to be back the SEC champions. That's just something that you don't do. That's hard to do, man. So that felt great. I'm so proud of my guys.
- [49:56]
Shannon Sharpe
But you know, coming in, look, you had heard the story the last six or seven times Georgia, Alabama had beaten Georgia, they beat you guys earlier this year between the hedges. So obviously this was a matchup that you wanted. You felt you're like, you know what, we let one slip away, but we get an opportunity to redeem ourselves and show that we're one of the best teams in the country. We're very deserving of going to the college football playoffs. And with that performance that you got today, I know Kirby probably told you, you guys are probably going to earn a buy. You're going to probably earn one of those four buys.
- [50:26]
Nate Frazier
Feel good.
- [50:30]
Shannon Sharpe
Boy.
- [50:31]
Nate Frazier
I know you got a week where you ain't got to do a bloody Tuesday. About 15, 20 period, two three hour practices straight. Pain, pain, pain, pain, pain. Physical. That's gonna feel good for about a couple of days, man. Kick my feet up for a little bit.
- [50:44]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, most definitely that, that, that'd be good for y' all too, because being able to have that by allowing players to, you know, to heal up, allowing some other players that. That may be injured, allowing them to get back and get back into good graces of health so they could be at their maximum potential when it's time, when it's time to play again, could be a great thing. When you, when you look forward to the college playoff, when you look forward to the college playoff, is there a specific team that you really want to see or you really don't matter? Whoever's in the way, we got to step on them.
- [51:14]
Nate Frazier
No, whoever's in the way, man, because every team that's in the college football playoffs, a great team is going to be a challenge. We got to take care of business. You know, we can't look at no team any differently, but we just got to make sure the next game, the next game, we just do a game plan for the team that we figure out what we going to play. Because no team just in the college playoff for no reason, dog.
- [51:30]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
- [51:31]
Nate Frazier
Every team that's in that college football playoffs got fighting like us. So we just got to be prepared and ready.
- [51:38]
Shannon Sharpe
When I look at you guys, knowing what you have on both sides of the football, probably the way you guys practice the game is probably easier than some of you guys practice knowing what you have. The four and five stars that you got on offense, the four and five stars that you got on defense, and Kirby is old school. Kirby Got y' all guys thundered up during the week. It ain't no. No shorts and walkthroughs and all that. Kirby. Hey, y' all putting helmets and pad on pad.
- [52:06]
Nate Frazier
Two days before the game, we died.
- [52:10]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Damn, Kirby, hurry for the game.
- [52:17]
Nate Frazier
Georgia is hard. Come to Georgia. You don't come to Georgia to have to go through no breeze through college and do walkthroughs on Mondays and Thursdays. The old Georgia is hard. If you want to be a great player, life is not easy. So.
- [52:30]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Right.
- [52:30]
Nate Frazier
You like lessons. Georgia teach you that life is going to be hard. So you're gonna have to go through something hard.
- [52:35]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, that's dope.
- [52:37]
Shannon Sharpe
To play hard, you got to practice hard. And I. I think a lot of teams have gotten away from that. I mean, I know in NFL, oh, they definitely don't practice like we used to practice.
- [52:48]
Cut his teeth under Coach Saban. Coach Saban is old. Oh, Coach Saban go way, way back. So that's the only way. That's the only way. And that's why you guys constantly put out three and four and five guys in the first round. Have 10 guys get drafted every single year. Because this is what you do. We sh. Iron sharpens irons. We got some of the best offensive players, some of the best defensive players, and we put them to the test every single day, every single week. So when we get in the game. Oh, man, y' all about to get molly walk. Yeah.
- [53:20]
Nate Frazier
Yes, sir, OG And I gotta. I gotta curse for y' all because y' all some legends, man. I wonder what y' all mean by practice. How y' all probably. Y' all give me a story which I go through. What was y' all practices like? Cause y' all know y' all playing that time.
- [53:31]
Shannon Sharpe
We.
- [53:31]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, see you.
- [53:32]
Nate Frazier
You got.
- [53:33]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You gotta understand. I'm gonna take this first before I'm let you go. You gotta understand when we play. Young. Young Bull. When we play, we had two a days, and our practices was, you know, two hours. Two hours and 30 minutes. And we had. We had two full. Full, full padded practices, you know, out there, you know, in the morning, the first practice, 6am you go out there, you got lunch, you go take your nap, and then you got the second practice in the afternoon. Now, this is training camp. This is training camp. So we had two days when the season started. Well, you and you and pads. Wednesday, Thursday. Yes, we. We have certain. We have certain periods where it's all. It's all out full contact. Fridays is fast. Friday, you got your helmet On. You got your shells, you got your shorts. Saturday is walkthrough game. On Sunday you repeat the same cycle the rest of the season.
- [54:21]
Nate Frazier
Well, thank God I was born in 2000.
- [54:23]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes. Hey, go ahead, listen, in college, when I was in college, we had old. Oh, Coach Davis. Now they ain't got this little protocol and rules and regulations like y' all got now. It was three hours and then Savannah, it was hot. Now when I got to the NFL, we thudded up. We. It ain't no. Hey, just wrap him up. Nah. 907, we putting people on the ground in team drill. Hey, we ain't driving you in the ground, but you gonna hear some pads popping.
- [54:54]
Malcolm Gladwell
Oh, yeah.
- [54:54]
Shannon Sharpe
Training camp was at Ocho. Say it was two a days. We, we once had a practice in. I think that was 94. We had eight straight days of two a days. Each practice was two and a half hours long. And we putting people on the ground. Goal line. 907. See, now they got walkthroughs and you have one of your practices a meeting. Meeting. Were you meeting to see. Hey, we tried to lay your ass out. That was the meeting that we was having. It wasn't no meeting about what we gonna do. That's what it was. But you guys now, but Kirby, that's why you guys are so ready to play. You have to prepare your body to take that kind of punishment in the game. You cannot, you cannot ask your body to do something it has not done. You guys hit.
- [55:39]
In the game because you hit during the week and your body is conditioned to take that kind. That's why Georgia constantly have 10, 11 guys go to the NFL every single year. This is why those guys play at an elite level every single year because their bodies are used to that. And you got great coaching. You got one of the great college coaches of this generation and you the best against the best and that's what.
- [56:05]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You have to have.
- [56:06]
Shannon Sharpe
So you guys are in a great system. You made the right choice. I don't know what made you pick Georgia. Are you from Georgia? Georgia?
- [56:12]
Nate Frazier
No, sir. I'm from Compton, California.
- [56:14]
Shannon Sharpe
Man. Compton. How the hell you get well, Compton.
- [56:18]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, what, what, what area you grew up in? Compton?
- [56:20]
Nate Frazier
You know, the Martin Luther King Hospital.
- [56:23]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [56:25]
Okay.
- [56:26]
Nate Frazier
I grew up in the Jordan Downs too though. Like trying to watch all my people's Westminster area. Like I grew up in la, baby.
- [56:31]
Shannon Sharpe
Period.
- [56:31]
Nate Frazier
Like that's just.
- [56:32]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Oh, Jordan Downs, man. You know, listen, you know, you know I went to Santa Monica junior junior college. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I say I stayed across the street. I had. I had a little girl back in the day, man. I stayed across the street from Dorsey over in the jungle in the third building off Coliseum. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So what.
- [56:50]
Shannon Sharpe
What made. What made. What made you pick Georgia? You got ucla, you got usc, man, you got a hundred colleges in between California and Georgia.
- [56:58]
Nate Frazier
You know how OG you was just explaining all this stuff about Georgia, how Georgia is different, and Georgia get 10 or 12 players drafted. That's one of the main reasons I chose Georgia, because Georgia is different. To be successful in life, you got to be different. My dog, you got to be different. You got to be doing something different than others to be successful in life, to be on top of somebody. So one of the main reasons why I chose Georgia is when I stepped on cameras, I just got a different feeling. I got a feeling that I was at home. I got a feeling that the people that were around me was going to try to take care of me to get to my furthest potential. So that's one of the main reasons I chose Georgia. Georgia is a great place to go be at.
- [57:31]
Shannon Sharpe
I love it. You. You said something very important. You said, you gotta. If you want to be different, you gotta. You gotta do different. And I just want to tell kids, Nate, when I used to talk to kids, I say, in order to. To be great, you must do what others can't or won't. Sometimes you have to do both of them. You gotta do what they can't do and what they won't do. Because a lot of times people talk about being successful. Now say, let me ask you a question. People always, always write down your goal. I bet you wrote down. When you got to Georgia in this season, you had. You wrote down 10 things what you wanted to accomplish. But on the right side, did you write down 10 things you're willing to sacrifice to make sure you get through those 10 things that you did? See, that's what you have to do. See, you write down your goals all you want to, but will you write down what you're willing to sacrifice in order to get those goals? That's when you take it. Because that nothing great can ever be achieved without sacrifice. The greater the goal, the greater the sacrifice must be to reach that goal. You understand what comes along with playing in football. You want to go to the National Football League, There are going to be some times you're going to have to deny family. I can't come to this. I can't do that. I've got to study. I've got to practice. I got to be X, Y, and Z. And you can't feel bad, man. I feel bad. I can't, man. I can't go to my mom's. I can't go to my. I can't do this. I can't. Okay. How great do you want to be?
- [58:55]
Nate Frazier
Yeah. Sacrifice.
- [58:57]
Shannon Sharpe
Sure, man. I just love having the young kids. And I see. I see the hunger in your eye. I see that you want to be great. I give you a hard time. Like, man, you ended that. But I was the exact same way. I went to one party in four years at Savannah State because partying wasn't going to get me to the NFL. I knew it wasn't. That did and I did. I didn't begrudge anybody that was going to party. My grandmother sent me to college for two reasons, Nate. To get a degree and go play in the NFL. Now, I knew they were going to happen. I didn't know which one was going to happen. I got my degree because it wasn't good enough for me to go to Savannah State or 10. Savannah State. I graduated from Savannah State, but I was going to that next level. And so you have the right mindset. I love the fact that you said, man, I got to get up and go. I got to go to church. Because there's somebody as a high power that blessed me to be in this position and keep me safe when I'm in these ball games, because I understand once one hit could be the end of it. So I got to give somebody that credit. I got to give somebody that glory and say thank you not only for keeping me safe, but for allowing me to wake up this morning because a lot of people had an appointment, Nate. They couldn't reschedule.
- [60:09]
Go ahead, Ocho.
- [60:09]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, listen, I. I understand, obviously, you. You're very disciplined. You're very structured in the way you carry yourself, understanding that. That, you know, God is the reason for. For all your success and will be the reason for all your success long beyond college football. But for fun, how do you. How do you. How do you get a mental reset and do things you like to do to get you away from the game? You know, you. You got to have something because you got to be able to fall back on. For me, my fallback on is video gaming. Gaming, gaming. Gaming is my fall back on. I'm talking about. Literally.
- [60:44]
Nate Frazier
I ain't even gonna lie to you, og. I feel like sometimes I go fishing.
- [60:48]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I do.
- [60:48]
Nate Frazier
Like, now I'm a Georgia.
- [60:49]
Shannon Sharpe
I do, like, outdoor things.
- [60:50]
Nate Frazier
Like, I Do deer hunting. I do fishing and stuff like that. You know, it's just, like, to get a connection with nature. It's peaceful, it's quiet. You know, it teaches me paces and stuff like that. Sometimes I play my game, but really one of the main things I just do, I just vibe and listen to music.
- [61:06]
Late night, just cru. Just listen to music, the sun dropping.
- [61:10]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I feel like.
- [61:10]
Nate Frazier
I feel like I got an old song.
- [61:13]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Right, right, right, right.
- [61:14]
Nate Frazier
Just chilling, driving, listen to music, just vibe like. I don't really like being around, like, all the karate and the loud noise and stuff. Fun time. I just like to chill and just relax, man.
- [61:24]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Okay, okay.
- [61:25]
Nate Frazier
Seven days out the week. Physically, you know, Sometimes you want to chill and relax.
- [61:29]
Shannon Sharpe
What, what type of what, what you fish for? What you going fishing for?
- [61:36]
Oh, so you catch it. Anything to bite. Catfish, large mouth, small mouth, perch, bluegill, garfish.
- [61:46]
Croaker, whiting. It don't matter. Shad, mullet.
- [61:55]
You say you like, you like to hunt?
- [61:58]
Nate Frazier
I'm starting to like it. I just don't like the, the after process.
- [62:02]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, you don't like. You okay. You don't like the dress, you don't like the dressing. Where you. Okay. What you, what you going hunting for? You hunting for deer? You hunting for. What are you hunting for? Have you killed one yet? Have you, have you taken one now?
- [62:12]
Nate Frazier
Got one. I got one of you.
- [62:14]
Shannon Sharpe
I got me a do. I got. I gotta give you a couple, man. How you kill. Oh, I don't understand. There's a small period that you can't, you can't kill the do's. You ought to be ashamed of yourself.
- [62:23]
Nate Frazier
It was, it was a decent size one, though. I gotta give me a bug.
- [62:26]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm hanging up.
- [62:29]
Hey, I thought you got, I thought you might have got a spike or yarn buck or something like that. You killed it though, man. You. Oh, man, I can't believe you.
- [62:39]
Odoo Announcer
Yeah.
- [62:40]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, Nate, I got, I gotta show, I gotta show you this footage. Nate. I, I, I, I killed me a buck, right?
- [62:46]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, my goodness.
- [62:47]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
No, listen, I was, Hey, I was sitting in the tree. I was sitting in the tree and he didn't even realize. Realized he was right up under me. You know, I was real quiet. So instead of using the arrow and I had my shotgun on my back, so I had to. I had the bow and arrow too. So I was like Rambo boy. Instead of using, Instead of using my shotgun and my arrow, I jumped on his back from the tree. I jumped off the purse and I was around his Neck. I had him around the neck and I put him like, like in a full nelson. Okay. Choked him out.
- [63:15]
Nate Frazier
If you, if you're doing all that, they probably might need to put you back on the field.
- [63:19]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Because I heard somebody on the field, bro.
- [63:26]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, but that's unbelievable, man. Nate, congratulations on the big win today. Congratulations on your season thus far. Now you know it's not over now. Cause your ultimate goal, you know you wanted to win an SEC championship, you want to get in the College Football Playoff. Now you're there two or three. Now you want to finish this thing off. And when you get to the next level.
- [63:47]
That'S the start of the journey. It's not the end. It's the start. You start the process all over again. So congratulations on this year. Stay healthy man. And we look forward. We're gonna watch you down the road. Man, you turn me into a Georgia fan, man. You may. You. You make me proud, man. Having a conversation with you today, I'm. I'm extremely happy for you. I'm extremely proud of you and I wish you all the best moving forward.
- [64:08]
Nate Frazier
I appreciate y'.
- [64:09]
Shannon Sharpe
All.
- [64:09]
Nate Frazier
Thank you for your time, man.
- [64:10]
Shannon Sharpe
It's a blessing. Thank you, bro. All the best love boy.
- [64:13]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Good luck.
- [64:14]
Shannon Sharpe
Nate Frazier, Georgia running back, 13 carries, 52 yards and a touchdown today. And a 287 win over Alabama and the SEC championship. Texas Tech all in best just played off after the off season the big spending for the number four Red Raiders secured the first Big 12 championship in program history. With a resounding 347 win over the number 11 BYU Cougars. Texas Tech assembled what can now be called one of the greatest transfer portal classes up in the evolving era of the nil and transfers in college football. A group of 22 incoming transfer that lead yielded 11 players who started in the Big 12 title game and four first team all Big 12 performers. Texas Tech has built what is to believe to be the best defensive line in college. David Bailey and Romello Height bringing non stop pressure. Lee Hunter, Skyler, Gill Howard and A.J. holmes Jr. Wreaking havoc outside. Five hand picked players out of the portals who could transfer not just their front but their entire defense. I love what. I love what the Rodriguez says. Hey, if we got the best team money could buy, why not do the right. Why not go ahead and end this thing off the right way?
- [65:30]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Oh yeah, definitely. Most definitely. But honestly you know this Big 12 championship, it almost looked.
- [65:35]
Shannon Sharpe
It was.
- [65:36]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
It was one sided. It was a one way street. Similar. Similar to the Georgia Alabama game. It was almost as if at BYU didn't belong there. Even though they did, they earned their right to be in the Big 12 championship. But Texas Tech showed that there's levels. They show that there's levels of. Levels of the game and they show that it's levels to college football and being in that Big 12 championship and showed why they actually made it there. I mean, there's not much to talk about, you know, for, for byu, but for Texas Tech, listen, it was a dominating performance. It was a. It was a dominant, dominating performance across the goddamn board.
- [66:10]
Shannon Sharpe
When you pay big money for something, don't you expect to get what you pay for? How many times have we seen. How many times have we seen it? Ocho somebody or team spend big money and they don't get what they paid for or you spend big money on something and it wasn't what you thought it would be. What Texas Tech spend 15, 20 million dollars. This is what I expect. I expect it would be in the Big Ten, the Big 12 championship. I expect to win the Big Tech Big 12 championship and I expect to get to the college football playoffs and then you know what? Let whatever happens, happens. But this was the expectation at the beginning of the season. This is why we spent that money. That's why we go and get all these guys out of the transfer portal. This is why we. Look starters. We got the 22 guys we brought in. 11 of them became starters, four became first team. First team all big 12. They're going to have some all Americans. That Jacob Rodriguez, he's gonna win a lot of wars. He's gonna win the buckets. He's gonna probably win the Gursky. He's gonna probably win all a lot of the wars that goes to the. The best defensive player. He gonna win it. He's gonna win it and he's earned it. He a hell of a player.
- [67:16]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Nice. He nice boy. He's nice.
- [67:20]
Shannon Sharpe
He won the buckets. Yeah. Yeah. Because I guess the war. So when is the. The ESPN award show, the Home Depot award show? That is that Monday?
- [67:33]
The next Monday? No, it comes on the night. Normally comes on during the week.
- [67:39]
But he, he. He's a phenomenal player. He's a phenomenal player. He had 13 tackles today. Oo a tackle for loss.
- [67:47]
They had 8 tackles.
- [67:52]
2 sacks. Relentless pressure.
- [67:58]
Autumn.
- [68:02]
Yeah. So the award show is next Friday.
- [68:05]
Malcolm Gladwell
Okay.
- [68:07]
Shannon Sharpe
The 12th. Okay. And the Heisman is the 13th.
- [68:13]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Okay. Hey.
- [68:16]
The fight was a draw, was it? Yeah, it just ended. It just ended in a draw.
- [68:23]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, man.
- [68:27]
You Think it would deserve to be a draw?
- [68:30]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yes, sir.
- [68:34]
Hey, pit. Hey, pit bull. Pit bull is a problem, especially if you're not. If you're not able to not only withstand that pressure, but be able to count off it every time you need me. Because it make it look. It makes him look like he's winning the fight because he's so goddamn active coming forward. That's all.
- [68:50]
Shannon Sharpe
But, yeah, and in the fight like that, you got to be able to fight off your back foot, and very few people can fight off that. Everybody likes to come forward. They like to dictate the fight. That was the one thing about Floyd. Floyd can fight either how you want to fight. Come forward, and every time you throw, I'm gonna hit you inside your damn head.
- [69:06]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Every.
- [69:07]
Shannon Sharpe
Every time I'm gonna catch you with something, and man, you know, he. Boom. Hey, he'll body shot, body shot. And then here come a check hook. You throw something, he throws something right back over the top. He was a bad. He was. But, yeah, but this. We're gonna get to the fight. But Texas Tech, there's advertised. Watching them today. There's advertised. They're as good as advertising sometimes. You know, Ocho, you. You looky like, man, I wonder what this. Because it's really my first. You know, you see a little here and there. You watch a little bit of it. But today I got an opportunity to sit down and really watch them advertise. They. They. They. They are the. They're the real deal. They're the real deal.
- [69:47]
Nate Frazier
Yeah.
- [69:48]
Shannon Sharpe
That defense is legit. They put so much pressure on you to put your under the rest. Offensively, they ran 41 times for 151, 59 yards. The quarterback was 20 and 33, 215, two touchdowns, no interceptions. They. They legit? They legit?
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
- [70:07]
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, I don't know. They're gonna. They're gonna get. They're probably gonna get one of those buys also, Ocho.
- [70:14]
I think Indiana definitely get a buy. Georgia get a buy. Texas Tech will get a buy. I think Ohio State's gonna get the other buy. I think Ohio State, again, the other by. Texas Tech is gonna get a buy. Indiana is going to be the number one overall seed.
- [70:33]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Honestly, I wouldn't want no buy.
- [70:35]
Shannon Sharpe
You ain't got no choice, Ocho.
- [70:37]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I know. I know what you mean. I know. I know they. I know they don't have a choice. I just. The momentum. The momentum. I don't.
- [70:42]
Shannon Sharpe
I don't want to lose that momentum. I mean, everybody has a buy because you got to think about it, the season's over now. They're not gonna play. When? The first. When is the first game? Like the end of December.
- [70:53]
The first game. Probably not for another two weeks.
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