Nightcap Hour 1: Iowa UPSETS Florida & Moves to SWEET 16 + St. John’s BEATS Kansas on BUZZER BEATER + Ocho LIKES BIG Women + Tennessee TAKES DOWN Virginia + UCONN ADVANCES Past UCLA

Summary

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Club Shay Shay – Nightcap Hour 1: NCAA March Madness Shake-Ups & Real Talk

Date: March 23, 2026
Host: Shannon Sharpe
Co-hosts: Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson, Joe Johnson ("Iso Joe"), and Liberty City
Episode Theme:
A spirited, insightful breakdown of the day’s wildest NCAA March Madness upsets and a hilarious, authentic dive into bracket busts, player mindsets, superstitions, and—this being Nightcap—a classic detour into body positivity and life beyond sports.

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Main Theme & Purpose

The episode focuses on the shocking results in the NCAA Men’s Basketball Tournament, particularly Iowa’s upset of Florida and St. John's buzzer-beater over Kansas. The hosts trade expert perspectives on why the upsets happened, share personal stories about competing under pressure, debate college hoops culture, and riff on everything from sports superstition to workout habits and societal standards for athletes and women—all in their signature unfiltered, comedic banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Iowa Stuns Florida to Reach Sweet 16

Segment Start: [10:00]

• Iowa (9-seed) upsets No. 1 Florida, sending Hawkeyes to their first Sweet 16 since 1999.

  • Key to victory: Florida's big man in early foul trouble; Iowa's relentless, tough play.
  • Joe Johnson: “Why would you take that gamble and let that man get in front of you?... Now you put your teammate in a hucklebuck.” [11:02]

• Critical analysis of defensive breakdowns in the final seconds:

  • Ochocinco: “When you’re a number one seed and the longer you let the lower seed hang around, Lord forbid that joker get a lead...they really start to believe they can beat this team.” [12:27]
  • Liberty City: “The closer that game get, and that’s in that second half, you know, asses get a little bit more tighter...it’s a different kind of pressure.” [13:10]

• Philosophy on underdogs and pressure:

  • Shannon Sharpe: “That’s why you like March Madness, because the underdog really does have a chance.” [18:40]

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St. John’s Buzzer Beater Over Kansas

Segment Start: [32:24]

• St. John’s knocks off Kansas 67-65, sealing the win with a buzzer beater bank shot.

  • Bryan Hopkins drains six of nine threes, defense stifles Kansas with 16 turnovers.
  • Liberty City questions whether to foul or defend the shooter in the clutch: “Why not send him to the foul line and make him make both them shots...instead of just letting him hit the goddamn shot at the end?” [32:58]
  • Ochocinco notes the shooter “hadn’t scored a point the whole game”—pressure moment! [33:33]

• Praise for Rick Pitino’s coaching intensity and pedigree:

  • Joe Johnson: “It’s one thing about great coaches, bro. They gonna have their teams ready to play. Give Rick Pitino some credit because them boys came out with it on their mind.” [34:49]

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Bracket Drama & March Madness “Magic”

• The group shares their personal bracket heartbreaks:

  • Joe Johnson admits to losing Florida in his final four, Ocho calls out Joe for SEC favoritism in his picks. [17:15-18:24]
  • Ochocinco: “You think this was football!” [18:40]

• Cultural memories of buzzer beaters:

  • Shannon on legendary moments like U.S. Reed’s halfcourt heave for Arkansas (“first time I understood what March magic was about…the underdog winning”) [19:44]

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Player Mindset, Pressure & Superstition

Segment Start: [21:29]

• Superstitions and pregame rituals:
  • Ochocinco and Joe Johnson recall precise routines—donuts, gum, tape, specific socks.
  • Joe Johnson: “I had to...all the stopping, going, cutting, lateral move, right? Man, listen…” [23:43]
  • Liberty City loves feeling the court, even modifies cleats to feel lighter: “I needed my shoe to feel like a track shoe.” [24:04]

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Body Types, Health, and Athletes’ Post-Career Life

Segment Start: [47:16]

• Hosts joke about staying fit, differences in metabolism, and body types post-retirement.
  • Liberty City: “When I don’t lift no weight, Joe, I get small, like I get skinny. I wish I could gain weight when I stop working out.” [48:29]
  • Joe Johnson: “If I don’t do nothing for a week or two, I ain’t got no problem gaining weight now.” [49:02]
  • Quest for the “eight pack jumper” on the beach gets the group laughing. [47:26]

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Ochocinco’s BBW Preference & Real Talk about Women’s Bodies

Segment Start: [53:43]

• Liberty City (Ocho) discusses his preference for "BBW’s," sparking discussion on body diversity:

  • Liberty City: “In the past, I only dated BBWs. So if you wasn’t 200 or better, I ain’t really playing with you.” [53:43]
  • Ochocinco: “If you notice, a lot of times, big women like skinny men, and big men like skinny women.” [54:35]
  • Shannon educates on real average: “The average woman is 5’4”, weighs about 170. That is the average woman, right? You get a woman that’s 5’8”...how much you think she weigh?” [54:57–55:52]

• Funny, body-positive riffs on women’s proportions:

  • “Check the ankles!” [57:55]
  • “Them athletic women…Lord have mercy…that’s hell on your hands.” [57:41–58:10]

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Quick-Hitters: More Tournament Action

Tennessee Takes Down Virginia

Segment: [60:49]

• Tennessee outlasts Virginia 79-72.
• Discussion of Iowa State as their next opponent; praise for Volunteers’ efficiency and teamwork.
  • Ochocinco: “Tennessee had five guys in double figures.” [69:00]

UCONN Advances Past UCLA

Segment: [77:40]

• UCONN uses a late run to pull away; concerns about their guard play vs. Michigan State next round.
• Joe Johnson: “You need contribution from a lot of these guys in different games...I like UCONN. They got a winning pedigree.” [79:13]

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Big Picture: College Hoops Trends, Transfer Portal & NIL

• Kentucky and other top programs struggle despite NIL windfalls and stars: “Kentucky probably got the highest paid NIL in all of college basketball...and to lose...” [71:47]
• Ochocinco and Joe discuss downsides of one-and-done: “That makes it difficult to win also when there’s no continuity...some of the best players coming in one year and leaving.” [76:25]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Iowa’s Gutsy Game-Winner:

  • “He dribble like, nah, let me get this step back in, man.” (Joe Johnson, [15:29])
  • “He shot that thing like he was Steph Curry.” (Ochocinco, [15:41])

• On Superstitions:

  • “Y’all ever play the game, step on a crack, break your mama back?” (Shannon Sharpe, [21:36])
  • “I had to...all the stopping, going, cutting, lateral moves, right? Man, listen...” (Joe Johnson, [23:43])

• On Women and Body Diversity:

  • “The average woman...is 5’4”, 170. That is the average woman, right?” (Shannon Sharpe, [55:52])
  • “Hey, Joe, in the past, I only dated BBWs. So if you weren’t 200 or better, I ain’t really playing with you.” (Liberty City, [53:43])

• On College Coaching Expectations:

  • “Kentucky used to be premier...Now we got one championship out of all that.” (Joe Johnson, [75:10])

• On Professional Mindset:

  • “It’s easy to make it [to the pros] one time, but when you make the Pro Bowl, you make All-Pro, guess what? The opposing team gonna start for your ass now.” (Shannon Sharpe, [42:03])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [10:00] – Iowa upsets Florida: game breakdown & pressure moments
• [17:00–18:40] – Bracket talk, personal picks & March Madness magic
• [21:29–25:54] – Superstitions and game-day rituals
• [32:24–37:00] – St. John’s buzzer-beater over Kansas, coaching legacy
• [47:16–51:14] – Athletes' post-career bodies, workout banter
• [53:43–58:39] – Ochocinco’s BBW preference, real talk about body diversity
• [60:49] – Tennessee over Virginia, bracket analysis
• [69:00–70:40] – SEC teams, Kentucky’s struggles, NIL reflection
• [77:40–82:09] – UCONN advances, concerns about guard play and coaching styles

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Tone & Style

• Language: Highly conversational, authentic, and full of barbershop energy—mixing expert basketball insight with playful trash talk and candid life reflections.
• Humor: Plenty of playful roasting (“You think this is football!”), humility about brackets, relatable talk about superstitions, and laughter about body types.

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For Listeners

This episode offers a fast-paced, laugh-out-loud ride through the chaos of March Madness, delivered by legendary athletes who blend serious hoops analysis with real-life wisdom, personal stories, and comedy. You’ll walk away feeling like you were part of the crew—hooping, joking, and debating the wild, unforgettable ride that is college basketball in March.

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Transcript

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The Hawkeyes will face the number four seed, Nebraska Corn Huskers in the south regional semifinals on Thursday night in Houston. Joe, how would the Hawkeyes able to pull this off?

[Joe Johnson]

Man, obviously I seen Florida big man. He only played 20 minutes. He. He had basically. He had four fouls. He had four fouls. I know they got him in foul trouble. And man, they. They were just tough. They weren't gonna back down. They weren't gonna back down. They. They kept themselves in closing range and at the end of the game, man, why, why, why would you. Why would you take that gamble and let that man get in front of you? Now you put your teammate in a hucklebuck to where now he gotta either take the ball or take the man in the corner. Man, come on, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I said the same thing. I don't know why you press that hard. Because it's not like it's. That's. I mean, nine seconds is a lot of time. It's not like it's three seconds, Joe. It's nine seconds. Yeah, and so you. You run that risk and you. You run and you give him the side so you don't got no cutoff point. You don't got nobody that you could direct him to. Ain't no interference. So he's got a clear shot. He's either going all the way to the basket or he gonna keep.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't. I don't know. I don't know what the boogie Flynn was thinking on that one. But hey, give, give. Kudos To Iowa, man, they, they play hard, disciplined and. And I always talk about the bigs that Florida got and they once gave them bigs. Them. Hey, them, boy, I was probably more physical than Florida, Uncle Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, they shot 50% from the floor. They didn't shoot. Neither team really shot well from the three point line. I was. Was 29% 7 to 24. And Florida was 6 of 19 for 32%. Neither team was really good from the free throw line. 64 for Iowa, 74 from for Florida. But the thing is, is that when you're a number one seed and the longer you let the lower seed hang around, Lord forbid that joker get a lead and he. In the second half.

[Liberty City]

Yep.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They really start to believe they like, oh, we can beat this team.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, we can hang confidence.

[Chad Ochocinco]

There might have been doubt in the beginning, but you didn't remove.

[Joe Johnson]

There you go.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So now you got hell on your hand. Go ahead, Ocho.

[Liberty City]

I was gonna say, you know, the closer that game get, and that's in that second half, you know, asses get a little bit more tighter. You know, everybody get. Hey, everybody get a little bit more gunshot, man. You know, hey, it's a different kind of pressure. Listen, I've never been in that situation like that. I've never played basketball at this level to be, you know, in a tournament's magnitude. But I understand pressure situations and what it does, what it does to you. You know, you get a little bit nervous. You know, if you've been a pressure

[Chad Ochocinco]

situation, you've had a big lead in Cincinnati and the team whittled that ish down and you got to go back out there because you don't want to give that offense the ball. You know, exactly what pressure.

[Liberty City]

I know what you mean. I know what you mean. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, absolutely.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know, hey, man, Carson telling you and Hooch, man, look, we can't give them the ball back. Hey, both hands on the football. Hey, get it. Get down. We don't need no extra yards. We don't need anybody to play hero.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, look, but my thing is for the hour in Florida game, like, why, why don't you just keep your man in front, make him take a tough shot. Just. I, I just didn't understand them pressing like that and then gambling the way that they did.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm like, what they. No, there was no need. If that guy hit a shot like the guy in Kentucky Joe, I just want him a head.

[Liberty City]

You got to live with that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You live with 10 foot bank shot. Okay, I live with that. But why would you risk it in that situation? Most guys can probably get from one end to the other 94ft. They can get there in about three seconds. Yeah, they can get down about three seconds. He's got nine. So now he. He. All he has to do is. Hey, it was a. The way dude shot that like he been making threes. You hear me?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Ojo. Because he could have took a dribble or two and tried to get to the basket.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That man, he was like, you know what?

[Joe Johnson]

We finna we going home or we going to the next round.

[Liberty City]

Hey.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes.

[Liberty City]

Hey, one or the other. Ain't no gray area about it.

[Joe Johnson]

I love it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I love it. It take Gus to shoot that type of shot, bro. That joke. Hey, he like, I'm all, hey, I'm dribbling all my chips to the middle of the table. He was there like, son, damn, son, you had a couple of dribbles. You could have dribbled a couple and got a closer shot. You're like, nah, I want that. I want to make it as difficult as I possibly can. I, dude, dribble like, nah, let me get this. Step back in, man. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, that's a tough shot, Uncle Ojo.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's a tough shot.

[Joe Johnson]

That man took a drip. He took a dribble like he was going in and stepped back for three for game.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, that's my kind of guy.

[Joe Johnson]

It's March Madness.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, that's what I'm talking about, man. He shot that thing like he was Steph Curry. That was some Steph Curry. Hey, hey, look, you got the number

[Joe Johnson]

one seed and we going to overtime. They might pull. They might pull out on them. But. But if I go and shoot this dagger.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes.

[Liberty City]

Hit it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Because you're not expected to win anyway, so even if you lose, everybody gonna say you played a tough game. That's the defending champs. They got X, Y and Z. They got police. They got NBA players. Right roster. That's what people say. Hey, look, I know. And it doesn't do you any cons. It doesn't make you feel any better that you played a number one seed, the defending champ. Yeah, why that'll make you feel any better. But it's not as much pressure. Now, Florida had that shot. That's pressure. Because now I'm the number one seed. I'm not even supposed to be. I'm not even supposed to be in this situation. Now that I think. Now that I think about it, Oo and Joe, I ain't even supposed to be here. Yeah, we supposed we Supposed to be up by 10 with. With like 20 seconds to go. And we get some guys in that don't normally play. We normally get them off the bench so they can feel what it's like to be in the March Madness. And here we are. We find ourselves in some bull.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, man. What Florida doing, bro? They done messed up my bracket.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I know who bracket they didn't mess up. You know what? I might hire my. You had.

[Joe Johnson]

You had them.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You had come and say you had them lose.

[Joe Johnson]

You had him losing the hour.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I didn't have to go into the final Four.

[Liberty City]

Oh, hey, Joe had the boy going to the final four.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, and you have Virginia going to the final Four. Me, my elite and my final four bracket is still intact.

[Liberty City]

Wait, what about mine?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Because you have Virginia.

[Joe Johnson]

I can't be that far behind, though.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm just saying, you can't get no more points from. Okay, my final 14 weeks and my. My. My elite eight picks, they still there.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay. All right, hold on.

[Liberty City]

So. So. So is my. I still. I can still get.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, Joe, you had Florida in the finals. You. Uhhuh.

[Joe Johnson]

I had what?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Florida in the finals, man, I had

[Joe Johnson]

that get back Florida boy, the way they did us during the season. I had.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, so you. So it was a revenge matchup for you. You let your pride get you.

[Liberty City]

Hey, hey, he picking. He picking with his.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, hey.

[Joe Johnson]

It just would have been perfect setup. Well, Florida made it. We make it, the Razorbacks make it, and we get. They get back. But now that Florida gone, we got. We ain't even got to talk about them no more. We ain't got to talk about them no more. All right. We talk about them Razorbacks.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, Oh. I don't know if you noticed this, but if you notice what Joe did. Yeah, basically all this damn SEC teams to go as far as he can.

[Liberty City]

Yeah, he did.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He think he's sleep. He talking about you picking mascot. Oh, that's Tennessee. Oh, that's Florida. Let's put them in. That's better. I'm like, well, damn. I'm looking at his bracket. I was like, well, damn.

[Liberty City]

Hey, hey, with Joe Joe in the

[Joe Johnson]

back of the line, ain't no way. Ain't no way.

[Chad Ochocinco]

N. No, he's still doing good. He must be. Thought this was football, But now this was. This was a good game. This is why you like March Madness, because the underdog really does have a chance. We've seen it not only in March Madness, but we see it in the national championship game. We see it in the semifinals. We saw what Christian labor did. We saw. We saw that. That he. That he. That. That they threw the ball to him and he gets the ball and he. Yeah, Wham. Yeah, we saw that. I saw us Reed, I think this was in probably 81. Hit a half court shot. Did you. It might have been Arkansas.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. U.S. replay for Arkansas.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, it might have been Arkansas against Louisville or somebody. When the U.S. reed hit that shot, half court shot and sent them on to the next round, that was really the first time that I had seen that. Understood what Mark's magic was about is that, you know, an underdog winning. I think that. What I think that was he beat. They beat Louisville, if I'm not mistaken.

[Joe Johnson]

I think so, because I think it

[Chad Ochocinco]

was after Louisville had won the national championship, because Louisville won the national championship in 1980. They beat Louisville. Not Louisville. Excuse me. They beat UCLA. Denny Crumb was a Louisville coach and Larry Brown was. Was a. Which.

[Liberty City]

Which Larry Brown. 76 is Larry Brown.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes, yes. He coached UCLA and he coached Kansas. Yeah. Yeah, That's. I just said that. I just said that.

[Joe Johnson]

U.S. reed.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Arkansas hit a half court shot.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Beat Louisville in 81. Because Louisville won the national championship. Yeah, in. In 81, Indiana won the national championship. That's when they beat. That's when they beat unc. Okay. The same year that was the assist Hinckley tried to assassinate Ronald Reagan. And they thought about. They thought about calling the game, but they didn't. They played on. So that was really the first time that I understood. I really understood because I hadn't seen any buzzer beaters like that before. But, man, I'm sorry, Joe. What's that, man, Your team ain't win now?

[Joe Johnson]

My team won.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm raising.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay. He raises as long as. Oh, Joe, you do realize you might as well throw your.

[Joe Johnson]

Not talking no ills. Don't even put that bad juju. That's why I be talking to you oo about that, man. Y' all be you.

[Liberty City]

Hey, hey, hey, Joe. It's not juju. No, it ain't. Do you, Joe, you superstitious?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. I don't know somebody from the south that's not superstitious.

[Liberty City]

I mean, I'm not. I'm not superstitious. I mean, whatever's to be.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Let me ask you a question. Do y' all ever play the game, step on the crack, break your mama back, back.

[Liberty City]

I remember that. I remember that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I remember that. You ain't step on no crack. If somebody. You didn't walk between if there's a pole, both of them walked on the same side,

[Joe Johnson]

Right? Right.

[Liberty City]

Yeah, boy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

By grab my grand, boy, don't you split.

[Joe Johnson]

Right, Right.

[Liberty City]

Hey, I still do that, and I don't know why.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I tell you what. I bet you ain't never broke no. You ain't trying to break no mirror. You want that seven years bad look.

[Liberty City]

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, when y' all play, y' all ain't had no superstitions, like some good luck socks or. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Same thing.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know, they did the same thing. I had three blueberry cake donuts. I had two, three packs of big red gum. I had four Advil. I mean, Tylenol sitting in my. Absolutely. Socks folded. They flip me. Give me lineman socks, Ocho, because, you know, slamming socks. 666, 8. I go back and get running back socks because they come a little lower. Put those socks in. I would get those socks, take them back to the equipment manager. He give me the running back socks. I put those in there. I get ready. Yeah. Oh, what?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Get taped twice. I get taped once, medium tape. And then when I come back in to go out for the game, I get that mole skin. I get that thing on my skin.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, that mole skin tough. Well, they don't know nothing about that mole skin.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Boy, if you twist your ankle with mole skin, you don't broke your ishkin.

[Joe Johnson]

Lock you in.

[Liberty City]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes.

[Liberty City]

I don't know. I don't know how you use that tape, boy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Man, I don't know, man. I told you, Ocho, I'll be looking at these guys now. I look at Devonte Adams, I look at Tyreek, and I look at all these kids that don't wear no tape.

[Liberty City]

They wear. Ain't they wearing ankle socks?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. No support. No support, nothing. My ankles start hurting. Looking at him.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I was like, well, damn, I ain't even playing. I start rubbing. I start rubbing my ankles.

[Liberty City]

Hey, Joe. You, Joe, you are you. You take your angle.

[Joe Johnson]

I had to, Ocho. I had all the stopping, going, cutting, lateral move, right? Man, listen, I had.

[Liberty City]

I, I. I couldn't. I couldn't do it. I couldn't do it. Now, there'll be. There'll be some pictures. You'll see me. I have spat on my shoes, But I'm doing that as for, for style.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Liberty City]

But outside of that, if you see me with regular cleats on, you can actually see the shoe. Because I got in trouble with Reebok. They say you got to stop spatting your shoe because we want the logo to show. Yeah, I stopped spat. I stopped spatting them. Look, Joe, I can't. I have to feel the floor. And then I had him take all the. All the. All the foam and all the padding off the shoe. So if. If I showed you my football cleat, I could take it and bend it and bend it in half. So I need. I needed my. Hey, Joe. I needed my shoe to feel like a track shoe. I need to feel the flow.

[Joe Johnson]

You must. Wasn't planning on getting touched when you out there.

[Liberty City]

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Them feet, but I don't play with them.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I don't know how he did neither. I remember in college, Ocho, we went out there with practice one day. Yeah, man, we saw Penn State.

[Joe Johnson]

That.

[Chad Ochocinco]

All the boys had that spat on.

[Liberty City]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Bill say, hell no. Cut. That is. Y', all, man, we try to be like psa because, you know, PS State, all they. They. They was like black and white, and they had them shoes spatted. Yeah, boy, the boy was looking good. Coach David said, hell no, home. Cut that issue off. Cut it off. I'm like that. I'm like, we already got it on. Then let. Let them spit it.

[Joe Johnson]

Hold on, y'.

[Chad Ochocinco]

All. You can't.

[Joe Johnson]

Y' all think about that with that spat on?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, we came back. That's bad. Cause, you know, we. Hey, we just saw. We don't saw PSG do it.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, hey. They say if you spat it up, boy, you ain't talking about nothing out there. No.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, boy. Hey, spat was. But we ain't. I mean, we didn't have it like that. I remember we end up having. Because we run out of pre wrap. Oh. Probably like week seven. We gotta steal toilet paper. We still pre wrap. We don't stole pre wrap out the girls dorm. We don't stole about the bathroom at the hall. Yeah, yeah. Cause we. We out of pre wrap. Man.

[Joe Johnson]

You guys.

[Liberty City]

Hey, that's.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I remember my. My rookie year endeavor, Ocho. You know how they do. Ocho, Once you get down to, like, they. They don't go all the way down to the Ryan or the tape.

[Liberty City]

Right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It might be three a quarter of a roll of tape still. And they just. I said, greek, would you mind if. You know all the tape that y' all don't reuse in the pre wrap? Can you throw it in the box? Man, I ship like two or three, four boxes to Savannah State.

[Liberty City]

Yeah. So they have something.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. You know Come on. Ojo, Gatorade, all that kind of stuff, man. Come on, man. They just be waiting.

[Liberty City]

Yeah, they do.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. I mean, Gatorade don't get drank. They pull, pour it out. We drinking that tomorrow. You're not fit to pull nothing out. But they don't make Gatorade like that. Oh, Joe, you remember they used to have. Joe, you remember you have that water and they poured the water in there.

[Liberty City]

Oh, yeah. And mix it and mix it together.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, that'll do. That's what we used to have, that powder. Yeah, you don't drink it all. It'd be right there for you tomorrow. Yeah, they don't do St. John's oh, my team beat Kansas 6765 despite shooting 36% from the field and nearly coughing up a 14 point lead. The Johnny's did.

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last enough to survive. Thanks to Dylan Darling's buzzer beater, Bryce Hopkins scored 18, added seven rebounds and most importantly drained a season high six of his nine three point attempts. St. John's defense also shut down Kansas for most of the game forcing the Jayhawks into 16 parent over the St. John's they head to the Sweet 16 to take on the number one overall seed Duke Blue Devils.

[Liberty City]

Yeah. Hey Unc and Joe, that last shot, right, that buzzer beat off the glass, right? You hear me? Why he didn't. I mean not. Why not send him to the foul line and make him make both them shots as opposed to just let him, let him war you off and he's a smaller, he's a smaller. He's a smaller person.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, you ain't want nobody to go to the free throw line with no time on the clock because all he got to do is make one.

[Liberty City]

I'd rather, I'd rather, I'd Rather put Young Bull in that press situation as opposed to just let him hit the goddamn shot at the end of the game.

[Joe Johnson]

That was.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But you do realize Ocho, at that point, he hadn't scored a point the whole game, right? He hadn't scored a point. That's like some. That's like Carson throwing somebody the game winning touchdown. And he ain't caught a pass the

[Liberty City]

whole day all game. Okay?

[Chad Ochocinco]

And so, I mean, if. If what's being. If what? Coach Pitino said he asked him what he wanted and he wanted power, which means he wanted the ball in his hand.

[Liberty City]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Coach Patino looking at him like, bro, you got zero points.

[Liberty City]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And you with the game on the line. Okay, go get. Go get it.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And you got big. You got the big. You got the conference player of the year on your roster. Edge of four.

[Joe Johnson]

Edge of four.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I wonder if he any came to Chewy tail.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, that big boy Beast down there, too, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That dude, man, do you see how. How big he. Dude, look? He about six nine.

[Joe Johnson]

He is six nine. He is about six nine. Listen, St. John got some dogs over there.

[Liberty City]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, look, I ain't even just talking about the ball. I'm talking about the defense they played,

[Chad Ochocinco]

the intensity they were playing early on. They was. Oh, they was. How many times did they force him to turn, throw the ball out of bounds, Joe, on the. On the inbounds?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, it's one thing about great coaches, bro. They gonna have their teams ready to play. Get Rick Patino some credit because them boys came out with it on their mind. I'm talking about they busting through screens. You can't even screen dudes. They busting through screens, cutting their man out defensively. They. Oh, man, they locked in. Oh, they were so locked in. Oh, they got out, them boys, man.

[Liberty City]

Hey, buddy, buddy. Hit that shot. He made the layup right. Right in the buzzer. And the camera pan right to coach. Well, he ain't show no kind of emotion. It's like, okay.

[Joe Johnson]

He's been there, done that, man. Rick Patino. Rick Patino. Ocho, he done been there, done that, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, he done been a lot of stops. You gotta think about it. He had this at Providence. I think he took Providence to the Final Four when he had Billy Donovan. Yeah, yeah. He won the national championship with Kentucky. He won the national championship with Louisville. I think he went to Iona. I think he went to Iona after he kind of got.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know, had to reinvent himself.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Iona come back to Saint John's. Now back in the 80s, Saint John's had a stick. When they had Walter Berry, they had Chris Mullen. Chris Mullen, Lefty. Boy, they had a stick. Coach Carnasecca with no sweaters. The big, the, the Big east was it Big John, Coach Thompson, Coach Lou, Jim Boeheim. Boy, they had a stick.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, they had it on locks.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And coach Riley Massimillo, Villanova. Because I think, if I'm not mistaken, I think one year they got all they got three of their 14, three of them was in the final four. Because Villanova might have been 85 cuz Villanova ended up beating might have been 8485 cuz Villanova ended up beating Georgetown. When they shot that ridiculous number from the field, just like they couldn't miss, Ed Pinkney went crazy. That's when they had. I think they had Gary Mc. I think they had Gary McClain. But man, yeah, it was. Yeah. Villain over Ed Pinky. Yeah, but boy, St. John's did it. But I was like, bro, I'm watching this and I'm like, joe, I'm feeling good. We up 14 under five minutes.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm like, I feeling good.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I was like, yeah, we got this one, man. I look up, I say tired. I said, come on,

[Joe Johnson]

what'd you think?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I just knew we had. This was gonna be a cake.

[Joe Johnson]

What'd you think about this potential number one pick, Darren Peterson?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, he got, look, he can play, but I think people go look, you know, pull himself out of the games, be it, you know, where there's his cramps, his injuries or whatever the case may be. I think they're looking. Because when I look at Debonza, I'm looking at a guy that's 6 foot 9 that already, that has a NBA body right now as we speak.

[Liberty City]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And he, he doesn't have the issues. Give me, give him a choice, Ocho, because I'm. I'm going to entrust you to lead my team. I'm going to entrust you with 40, 50, 60, $70 million. And then hopefully I'll give you another. I'm gonna give you in three, four years, I'm gonna give you $200 million. I'm taking the bonza. That's just.

[Joe Johnson]

He got, he, he, he. Dan Peterson is a great talent.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He.

[Joe Johnson]

I think he will be a top three pick.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I do. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And I think in, in some form when he gets to the pros, Uncle Ocho, they'll teach him, teach him on how to take care of his body. What he should put in, you know.

[Liberty City]

Right.

[Joe Johnson]

And things of that sort. So they don't necessarily worry me. I just want to know, does he really love the game? Does he really love competing? That's all I want to know, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Because if you.

[Joe Johnson]

Yep.

[Liberty City]

Hey, but Joe, you got to think about it, Joe. As good as Peterson is, right?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes.

[Liberty City]

You know, despite the, despite the turmoil during the season, taking itself out, cramping up, whatever it may be, you got to love the game. To get as good as he is, you, you have to love it. Especially when it comes to competing, especially at this level. You know, you're playing college ball and, and you regarded as one of the better, better players in the entirety of college basketball. That ain't no, that ain't no mistake though. That ain't no accident.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So you can be. Have such God given ability. And we've seen, I've seen, I've seen guys that I don't. They don't love it, they just good at it. And I can make an honest list.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Because at the end of the day, Ojo, in college you're playing 30, 32 games when you get to the pros, bro, 82 games. It's a lot. And I'm telling you something, they already talk about the rookie wall. Like it's a lot, bro. I know they do the load management and all that, but man, mentally, physically, emotionally, it takes a lot on your body, bro, and not everybody can handle it.

[Liberty City]

Yeah. And you know, the funny thing is too.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Huh?

[Liberty City]

You know what I was gonna say too? Remember what you just said? Most of the time, what happens when players or people are, are blessed by God and they don't do the work? You know, you get exposed at some point anyway.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, you get exposed.

[Liberty City]

Especially once you get to that next level.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Liberty City]

Once you get to that next, once he gets to the NBA, if you don't love the game and put the work in like he got to. Yeah, you ain't gonna be that long.

[Joe Johnson]

It's real talk.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes, it's too. Because you got to realize like in high school you're like, okay, there's some good. But when you get to college, a lot of those guys were all state players. All those guys was all region, all county players. And as you keep moving up, guess what? There were a lot of, okay, you were college player of the year, but guess what? On your own team, you might have had five college players.

[Joe Johnson]

Right, right, right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Heisman Trophy winner. But because Narrat, Thorpe, Blitnikov, okay, if you don't put that work In. Cause look, everybody at the next level, regardless of what you where, you how, what, how acclaimed you are, everybody at the next level can make you look foolish in a given game.

[Liberty City]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

A guy that you like. I ain't never heard of this guy before. Will light your butt up.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So if you don't go out there and be prepared. Now, you look, man, he ain't no good. No, no, he good.

[Liberty City]

Yo.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Just handed it to him. Hey, you heard what Sherm said. Sherman said, man, I went out there, I ain't really know a whole lot about Stevie Johnson, Man. About 10 catches, 165 yards later, I knew a lot about Stevie Johnson.

[Liberty City]

Hey, hey, boy. Stevie, the real deal, boy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. And so. And. And that's the thing. And plus, Ocho, you got to realize that once you get to the pros, ain't nobody telling you what to do. They don't tell you. They don't check and see if you go to study hall. They don't check and see if you go to class. They don't check and see if you working out. That's all you.

[Joe Johnson]

So.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, that's all you. So. Now, if you don't see what happens when you don't love something, now, all of a sudden, that. That. That. That dips.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Look at the guys that love it.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

See, and people like, well. Well, Yoke. He care about horses. Look at Yogic on the sideline when things ain't going his way, and you tell me he don't love it. He yelling, he draw. He's trying to draw stuff up. Yes, absolutely. You got to look to be that great for an extended period of time. It ain't nothing to burst on the team. Oh, how many guys we don't see make the Pro bowl one year and we never hear from them again?

[Liberty City]

From them again.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, it's easy to make it one time, but when you make the Pro bowl, you make All Pro, guess what? The opposing team gonna start for your ass. Now. Let's see it. When they know.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes, sir.

[Liberty City]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You the best receiver. Now you get our best cornerback. Now you get our undivided attention. Now you get coverage is called to stop your puncate. Yeah. Yeah, Joe, you get the defense. They coming. Oh, we gonna trap Joe. We gonna blitz Joe. Hey, y', all, heads down. You show. Hey, don't let a. He want to run that pick and roll. He gonna try to pin today. Don't let Joe come on that pin now. Yeah, yo, see, I know Joe. Love that pin down now, hey, let

[Joe Johnson]

me get a little separation. All I need is. All I need is a little crease, Ocho, that thing.

[Liberty City]

Hey, just a little. Just a little space joke. Yeah. Hey, hey, hey. The hardest part about any sports you play at the highest level is about consistency.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Thank you.

[Liberty City]

It's hard. It's hard. It's hard to be consistent. And the better you are, the better you are what you do, the more discipline you got to have, though, especially when it comes to your craft. Boy.

[Joe Johnson]

Man, what I found to be the toughest when you turn pro is showing up. You know, you got to show up every day, even on days you don't even feel like it, uncle, you know what I mean? Not only do you got to show up, but you got to come ready to compete and play. And that's why I say, you know, through a six to eight month season, bro, you're not gonna wake up every day and want to go out there and compete and want to play or want to go to practice, but you have to. This is part of it. You know, the ones that love it, they look forward to that. You know what I mean? So, yeah, that's my biggest concern.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I did, man. I look forward to go, man. I wanted to see the guys, Ocho, because I done worked on some new materials, some jokes, so I can't. I couldn't wait to get to the locker room. Yeah, the bus rides. Being on that bus ride, Ocho, you know. Hey, Joe, I don't know how y' all did it, but you know everybody, man. What. Sean, what bus you getting on? I'm getting a bus, too. Don't get on bus one. Because that's what the head coach is. That's what I'm owning his wife every day. Yeah, over there, man, we got coaches. The coaches trying to get on bus, too. Cause they know we're gonna have that thing rocking going to the. Don't let us win. I'm. Boy, I'm Dave Chappelle. I'm Dave. Oh, I am Dave Chappelle. Even when the coaches, the coach is coming back here with us. What y' all got going on back here? Don't worry about what we got going on back here. We got. Y' all already know we got some bull job.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, man, you appreciate. You appreciate great teammates, bro. I'll tell you. I tell y', all, one guy that really sticked out to me when I was in my young career, like, second, third year, Bo Outlaw. I played with Bo Outlaw.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, okay.

[Liberty City]

I remember both.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, man, Bo used to kick It, I'm talking about off the court and everything. But every day, Uncle Ocho, he showed up the same way, the same happy smile, cracking jokes, having a good time. I'm talking about it wasn't the day he showed up and he was pissed off. I'm like, man, how this man, he first went in the weight room getting it, you know what I mean? Like, he was just a hard working dude and I learned so much from him, but he. That, that he was a super cool dude, man. Me and Bo, really, we got some real stories, boy. Bo kicking boy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Because think about it. Your whole life, Ocho, you grew up, you and Joe, we all kind of grew up. Very, very similar situation. Yeah, your whole life, you dream man situation. God bless you with talent and put you in this situation. How could you not? That's what I don't get. How could you not? Everything you had asked for. Lord, please just let me be good enough. Let me be talented enough to make it to college. Let me make it to the NBA. Ta da. Here we are.

[Liberty City]

Hey.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And now all of a sudden you get lazy. Cause you hear, man, the easy part is getting there. The hard part is staying there.

[Liberty City]

So who as your hair boy getting there, not easy either. No, you think about it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It's easier to get there and stay than to get there, get out and try to get your ass back in.

[Joe Johnson]

Back in.

[Liberty City]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What they say when you leave a sporting event? No re entries. That's the same with sports. You get your ass out of these leagues, it's hard as hell to get back in unless you got a homeboy working to let your ass in the side door. Yeah, I'm like, bro, man, hey, couldn't tell. Hey, I couldn't wait to work out because I've always been the guy. I love to work out. So I was a guy that once I was done with football. Now there's some people don't look. They look at it like, I play a sport. I work out because I have to play a sport. Once I'm done with sports, I ain't working out no more.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That. That was the opposite of me, right? I'm like, man, y' all gonna. I like to work out. That's why people that they really like that really like to work out. They don't give them. Them half a million, 750 million dollar bonuses, Ocho, to do off seasoning. They get them, the guys that don't really care about it because we got the. We got to encourage them to work

[Liberty City]

yeah, you gotta incentivize me.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They want to give me 50 a day. No, I'm good. I don't work my last 50 a day job, bro. I don't, I don't work that. I work my last 50 a day job. When I live in Georgia, ain't no more 50 day job.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey. You say you love to work out, but, hey, me too. I was the same way. I like to look good in the summer, too.

[Liberty City]

Hey, okay, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I hit the beach, Ocho, you know, come off. I got that eight pack jumper, you hear me?

[Liberty City]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I like to stay in shape now. Yeah, I was one of them. Yeah.

[Liberty City]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm gonna call that Ocho. How you go? I mean, we got them guys, they shine with the T shirt on. You know what I'm saying? I said, come on, man, we in college. You ain't getting clean. How you getting clean? This joker scrubbing his ass. He got a T shirt on.

[Liberty City]

Yeah, he tripping.

[Chad Ochocinco]

How you get? He watching, bro. How you getting clean with a T shirt on? Oh, man, you know, later come out to you like, like, damn. You know, you want your lady, like, okay, right. You know, you don't want your lady to get up there in the broad daylight and pull down. I don't want to look at that. Come on.

[Liberty City]

I can't. Hey, hey, Joe. I can't. I can't help but work out too, bro. I, I, I, I don't know. I don't know what it is.

[Chad Ochocinco]

If you don't work out, you can be 150.

[Liberty City]

Say it again.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You gonna be 150 exact. Exactly.

[Liberty City]

Hey, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Huh?

[Liberty City]

Yeah, Joe, I don't understand. When I don't lift no weight, Joe, I get small like I get skinny. I wish, I wish. I don't know at what point, you know, I would hit the age where when I don't work out, I actually gain weight. You know what I mean? I look at all, I look at all my other homies that play, you know, don't nobody lift. Everybody a little healthy now. You know, they got, yeah, they look

[Chad Ochocinco]

like they play tight in the office of line. Yeah. Yes, yes, yes. Look like linebackers. Linebacker look like D line.

[Liberty City]

I, I can't, I can't. I don't know what age it's gonna hit me on, but I'm waiting.

[Joe Johnson]

Body types, Ocho, you probably just got that body type. A, high metabolism.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He don't, he don't got that body type.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, you don't like, boy, I'm telling you, Ojo, if I don't do nothing for a week or two, well, I ain't got no problem gaining no weight now, man. That's why I had to stay. I had to stay on myself, man. I can't be playing.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, see, do you know how much weight you could put on a six, nine frame? Ocho, Joe, you eat a lot, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, hell no.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Damn, man, Joe be fast. And Joe be. You know, Joe in that yogurt, that heated yogurt. So Joe probably don't eat like two meals a day.

[Liberty City]

Okay. Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, not even. I eat one nice big one, like full of good proteins, greens, little carbs.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, I mean, I eat four, five. I eat four, five times a day.

[Joe Johnson]

I can't.

[Liberty City]

Your meals be small though, aren't you?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, I eat about each meal, probably about 500 to 750 calories.

[Liberty City]

See, I don't. I don't. I don't know how to do all that.

[Joe Johnson]

Trying to keep that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He trying to keep that.

[Joe Johnson]

He trying to keep that girth on. He trying.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I already know.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I still. I like the car. I like the caramel. Oh, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Liberty City]

Hey. Oh, hey, I'm. I'm about 200 right now, Joe, but.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, you ain't 200.

[Liberty City]

I'm too hot. You saw how big I was when

[Chad Ochocinco]

I took the shirt off the other day.

[Liberty City]

I got a little size on the leg, they say.

[Joe Johnson]

But you look like. You look like one of them little walls, though, because the little legs you got

[Chad Ochocinco]

looking like Johnny Bravo. Hey, hey, hey, hey, Joe, you remember Brown horn?

[Liberty City]

Hey, hey, you gotta. Hey, Joe, I'm a gazelle, Joe, you know. Hey, yeah, you. Hey, when you watch the Kentucky Derby, you ain't see now horse with big legs, okay?

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, no, no, no. You don't see horse with big ankles. Oh, yeah, got big ankles. Belgium's have big ankles. Shires have big ankles. Those are killing horses. Yes, sir, race horses. That's why they fracture so easily. Because you're asking a th. A thousand twelve, thirteen hundred pound animal to run on ankles the size of a human and run 35, 40, 45 miles an hour.

[Liberty City]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You got no Belgium.

[Liberty City]

I'm a greyhound. Yes, I'm a greyhound. Hey, Joe. Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, I gotta stay right on, Joe, you know, I mean, you know, I still do squats even on my knee.

[Liberty City]

Yeah, I never did a squat.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Boy, I can tell.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, you do no squats?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Man, how you keep it. How you keep your legs on your

[Joe Johnson]

leg press or nothing.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I can't pick nothing up. He can't pick it. He can't pick Cambodia up. Cambodia probably pick him up, Joe.

[Liberty City]

I didn't do no squats, Joe. I mean, there are other. There are other exercise you could do to implement to get to work the same areas, but put that goddamn rack on my back.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, they got machines, Ocho.

[Joe Johnson]

Huh?

[Chad Ochocinco]

They got machines.

[Joe Johnson]

They go around your waist.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, they got. They got. They got the. The belt squat. They got pin squat.

[Liberty City]

I'm talking about when I was playing. They have all.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I do no squats either when I played.

[Liberty City]

Okay, okay, okay. Well, I'm not playing with it now.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I do them now. Yeah.

[Liberty City]

All my work is heel work. Joe and Ben Healing band work.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. I mess with that heel. Keep your leg strong, too. They. They here, man.

[Liberty City]

Hey, Joe, I can fly right now, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Liberty City]

You hear me? May I tell you. No, I ain't gonna play. We had a scrimmage the other day. We had 11. 11 scrimmage on the field. And talk about soccer, obviously, I played the nine. I played a striker, so the striker would. I'm trying to think in basketball terms. It really wouldn't be the point because I don't get the ball much, but

[Chad Ochocinco]

it's all about you on the wing. No, no, not the wing. Not the wing.

[Liberty City]

In the center. In the center. In the center. I'm in the center. Like, in the center. That's the nine position. So it's like almost like a center in basketball. Damn near. So the wings, at times, they facilitate to me. Yeah, at times. But it's all about me being able to find and create space. And the point guard would be the center mid, you know, so. But either way, I just played 90 minutes, Joe. Running up and down. I had maybe one or two.

[Joe Johnson]

Three.

[Liberty City]

Two balls, Joe. I was out there flying, Joe. Oh, my goodness. I was out there flying, boy. I ain't. I was like, you know what? The B58, boy, I still. I still got it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I mean, I don't know how. So how you gonna get. When you get married? How you gonna carry through the threshold?

[Liberty City]

Carry who?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Camp Cambodia oh, man. Like this.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, man. Come on.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Like this.

[Liberty City]

Hey, Joe, you. You seen me do 225 with ease like this, like nothing.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But you got to realize. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You got dead weight like this. Oh.

[Liberty City]

Oh, that's easy. I don't mean to be rude. I. I know. Listen. I don't mean to be rude, Joe. Right. Listen, Joe, what Unc don't understand is in the Past, I only dated BBWs. So if you were. If you won 200 or better. I ain't. I ain't really playing with you, you know, because that's. That's what I was attracted to. BBW's pretty face, pretty feet. I mean, man, that's Joe. That's what I'm at. And you know, one of my go

[Chad Ochocinco]

to was that Joe. Remember, baby? Yeah, remember.

[Liberty City]

Remember how Ving Rhames had Tyrese in the kitchen?

[Chad Ochocinco]

What we talking about?

[Liberty City]

Hey, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco]

We like this. Talking about Joe, not the baby boy that with me.

[Liberty City]

Hey, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Some.

[Liberty City]

Some of 220, 230.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, I think you look skinny, if you notice. A lot of time, big women like skinny men. Yeah, big men. Light skinny women.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, yeah.

[Liberty City]

Well, who you telling?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I know how I go, man. I know how I go.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, but everybody. But see, Ocho, what I said that people are back, bro. If you. If you look. If you look at women, look at discus throwers.

[Liberty City]

Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Look at shot putters, look at volleyball players. What you think? How much you think those women be weighing? They don't weigh. The average woman weigh about is 5 4. Weigh about 170. That is the average woman, right? So you start getting a woman that's 5 8, 5, 9, 5116 foot. How much do you think she weigh? She ain't doing something for Vogue or Victoria's Secret. How much you think she weigh?

[Liberty City]

Right? Right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Man, y' all better get out of here. Y' all better wake up to the real world, because I promise you, the lady that y' all probably with, she don't weigh no 130.

[Joe Johnson]

What she weigh, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Probably one. The average. The average woman. When you project all women right, average height for a woman is 5 4. The average weight is about 170.

[Liberty City]

What?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes, I like. Yes.

[Liberty City]

Hey, hey, listen. 170.

[Chad Ochocinco]

See if I'm lying. Google it.

[Liberty City]

Hey, you know, the funny thing is too. Hey, hey, Joe. 54 and 170. And if. If it's proportionate too, and everything.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Boy, you got hell on your hands, huh? You got hell on your hands.

[Liberty City]

Boy, who you telling you got hell on your hand?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I told you what to put matter what. To pull that pistol on your boy. Yeah, smooth like this.

[Joe Johnson]

Stop playing.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Not a dimple, not a pimple, not a wrinkle, not a crease, not a divot, nothing.

[Liberty City]

Oh, man. Oh, them to a

[Chad Ochocinco]

bounce quarters off a booty,

[Liberty City]

Boy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, what Google say? What Google say, y'?

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[Chad Ochocinco]

I know y' all googled it. Cause y' all thought I was lying. What did Google say the average height, average weight for the American woman is? I. Wait, I'm gonna be quiet. Y' all tell me.

[Liberty City]

Yeah, five. What they say?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm.

[Liberty City]

I'm.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Google it. Right. Google it right quick. Oh, yo, Google it, Joe. Put it down.

[Liberty City]

Average height and weight for American woman.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Liberty City]

Damn, that came up fast.

[Joe Johnson]

What's that? What'd you get?

[Liberty City]

Average height, 53 to 5 4. Average weight, 168 to 171. 171 pounds.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Not okay, now. What?

[Liberty City]

Yeah, he was right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Now, boy, you get you one that's athletic. Oh, talk to me. She weigh 1501-501601-70180. Lord have mercy.

[Liberty City]

Boy, you gotta check. Don't forget to check the ankles now. Check the ankles.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, when I check ankles, they eye level. I can look at. Look to the left, look to the right and see a mocho. I'm just saying. Is that what you talking about? Check ankle. That must be what you're talking about. That got to be it. I didn't look left or right. Yep. Look good to me. Hey, OO told me to check the ankles. I did just what my partner told me to do.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, hey, boy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But that's the thing. I don't know why these people have these ideas in their head. They see these women and they think, no, no, it's not like that. These women today, they not built like. They not built like these women, like.

[Joe Johnson]

You hear me?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Coming up.

[Joe Johnson]

You hear me?

[Liberty City]

Yeah. It's different. It's different now.

[Joe Johnson]

What? Hey, I know exactly what you're talking about.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And the teacher. These teachers, man, we had teacher, man. Our teacher was 70 years old when I was in third grade. Now they got teachers. 20, 24, 25. Hey, I have no teacher. I think I had one teacher. I think I had one teacher, maybe two that was under the age of 30 when I was a kid.

[Liberty City]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

All the rest of them were faulty, had horn rims, had come to school, came to class.

[Joe Johnson]

You see some of these teachers now, boy.

[Liberty City]

Hey, hey, hey, Joe. I wouldn't have missed one class. I wouldn't have missed one class with some of the. Some of the teachers I've seen today, you know, on Instagrams.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes.

[Liberty City]

Wait, you. And, you know, there's always the discourse and there's always dialogue based on what

[Chad Ochocinco]

they wearing because they.

[Liberty City]

Because they curvy now.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Yeah, you're right.

[Liberty City]

You talk about skipping school.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Skip what? Skip who? And, hey, Chad, present every day.

[Liberty City]

Joe, not in the back.

[Joe Johnson]

I already know. I already know it.

[Liberty City]

What are we talking about?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hell, I think I missed out. I went to class. Anyway. That was me. They got free meals, so I wasn't missing class. Cause hey, you must probably miss class and stay home. You gonna starve that. You might starve that day. I ain't missing them turkey. Turkey sandwiches and all that food. But man, it's a different. It's a different time in a different era now, man. But boy, them athletic women. I need to. Hey, I gotta reset. I gotta reset my algorithm on ig. They be popping up the damn workout with me. Damn. Tennessee beat Virginia. 79, 72. Tennessee fended off Virginia to escape with the wind. To advance to the Sweet 16. The Cavaliers Capital on a couple of unforced errors to breach.

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[Chad Ochocinco]

about two minutes left, but clutch free throws and shooting allow the Volunteers to hold on. Virginia freshman DeRidder did everything he could, scoring a game high 22 points. He's the first Cavalier player with at least 20 points and five rebounds in an NCAA tournament game since DeAndre Hunter in 2019. Championship Tennessee, Sweet 16 opponent Iowa State.

[Liberty City]

That's gonna be a good game.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Who got, who got Iowa State advancing? You do. I do.

[Liberty City]

Me too.

[Joe Johnson]

I probably pick Tennessee.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hell, I sure hope you did, Joe.

[Liberty City]

You did.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, I mean, you did. I mean, who did? Iowa State just play.

[Liberty City]

They just be.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So they beat the brakes off.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, Texas Tech was it?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Texas?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, no, no. Texas. Alabama just play Texas Tech. Kentucky, Kentucky.

[Joe Johnson]

Kentucky. No, I know I had Iowa State beating up. I would say the two seed

[Chad Ochocinco]

you but you, hey, but you like what you call them. You like sec.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I know, but I, I, I didn't, I didn't pick with my heart on that one.

[Liberty City]

Damn, man, they killed Kentucky, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They blew him out. They beat him by. Yeah, beat him by 19. I was, I was surprised. Virginia, I mean Tennessee did an outstanding job. They shot 39 from the field, 34 from the three point line. Yeah, 55. First of all, when you make that free, when you only get to the free throw line 11 times, Joe, you got to be damn near 90, 90 to 100 because the other team got to the free throw line 25 times, and they made 19 of them, so they already. They got a plus 13 just at the line. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. I don't know Tennessee good, though, Uncle Ocho. They ain't. They ain't. They ain't no slouches. No, I know. They.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I mean, 2411.

[Joe Johnson]

They got some guys who can play, man. They got some guys who can play.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Virginia just had an off night. Low scoring, 72 points. The good teams, bro, they up in the 88, the high 80s.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You got to. But, you know, Virginia run that in. Bennett. They don't. They don't get up and down like that.

[Joe Johnson]

No, they're not.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They're not trying to get up and down, and they don't want you to get up and down. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Tennessee. Tennessee look good, though. They look good. They had a lot of guys play well.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I don't need them to look good against Iowa State, our state.

[Joe Johnson]

Look good, boy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Yeah, they absolutely look good. So hopefully. Hopefully they can keep. Hopefully they can keep that going. That'd be. That'd be real nice. I. I sure appreciate that.

[Joe Johnson]

There you go. Here you go.

[Chad Ochocinco]

1, 2, 3, 4. I mean, Tennessee had five guys. Figures. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Tennessee getting it done, man. They representing sec.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Cause you got what you got. Y' all ain't got that many still in there, though. Y' all got Tennessee and y' all got Arkansas. Who else y' all got? I think that's it, Joe. Alabama. Yeah. So y' all got three. Cause Vandy's gone. Kentucky's gone.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. That's all right. We got the. We got the winning team, too.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Okay. Iowa State beat Kentucky 82 to 63. After a rough start to start the game, Iowa finally got shots fall in the second half. Kentucky with turning the ball over. The Wildcats committed 20 turnovers, their most in an NCAA tournament game since 1993. And even though Cyclones. Cyclones didn't have senior forward Joshua Jefferson because of a sprained ankle. I'm A. Lipsey, 26 points. Milan Ms. Milojovic, 20 points. Picked up the slack to push them back to the Sweet 16. I will stay Sweet 16 opponent. The balls, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay, Ocho. I like. I like Fred Hordberg. I like they coach.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

He seemed like.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Nah, nah. Fred Hoiberg. He's not there.

[Joe Johnson]

He ain't at Iowa State?

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, I think he had Nebraska. Isn't Horburg in Nebraska?

[Joe Johnson]

Hold on, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He used to be. He's at nebraska, right? Yeah, he said nebraska. He used to be at iowa state.

[Joe Johnson]

Who coach iowa state. I guess I was just.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I ain't got no sound on, so

[Joe Johnson]

I know I had just watched him on the, doing the interview. I thought that was from Iowa State.

[Liberty City]

Hey. Hey, Joe. And, and there's a, I remember I went to visit my daughter during, during. Right before track scene started at University of Kentucky. I got to meet some of, some of the players at University of Kentucky, and there's one that they said who was a lottery pick, right? But he tore his acl. I'm not sure if he's healthy or not. I can't remember his name, but he was supposed to be a lottery pick and he played at Arizona State. I think it was years.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Big dude.

[Liberty City]

Yeah. I, I, I can't, I can't, I can't remember. I can't remember his last name. And I'm not sure if he's all the way healthy yet and if, if he played in the tournament. But they, they said, they said he was, he was, he was that boy. So I was looking forward to watching him play, but I'm not, I'm not sure if he's back.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, listen, okay, hey, listen, this ain't, this ain't good for Kentucky, okay? Ocho, they probably got the highest paid nil in all the college basketball.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You think they do.

[Joe Johnson]

They spent the most money, I think, I think like 22 million or something.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yep.

[Liberty City]

Whoa.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm saying, amongst their players, I think, I think they got a couple guys making some good money. That's what I'm saying.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And to lose 20. Okay, Kentucky reported the guys that you talked about, Ocho, $2 million to transfer. Okay. 20 points all season.

[Liberty City]

So he'd been hurt.

[Joe Johnson]

All.

[Liberty City]

He'd been hurt all season, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yep.

[Liberty City]

Yeah, his knee. They say, they, hey, Joe. They supposed he's saved as a lottery pick. When I went to, when I went to visit, I had a chance to meet him. Real tall dude. I had to go, I had to go watch his highlights. Arizona State. I was like, oh, my.

[Joe Johnson]

He got like some big hair or something, like. Yeah, like. Yeah, No, I seen him play, Ocho. He, he a dog down there, but I ain't know. He tore his acl, though.

[Liberty City]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was recovering from something.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What the thing was is that, that's why they got, you know, Cal ended up leaving because the expectation. That's Kentucky, that's blue blood, right? There are certain teams that you just have with expectations. Kentucky and Duke and North Carolina, they have expectations, and it's kind of like Alabama, what Alabama is running into, you know, you know, the standard is so high. Yeah, bro, you, you got to get. You got to get, bro, you can't keep losing in, in the first round and, and before you get to the sweet seat, bro, you can't lose like that.

[Joe Johnson]

No, they don't want to see that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That and you get, and you getting the players that you're getting.

[Liberty City]

Right?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Think about it. Think about all the. And I'm not saying that it's easy, but when you get five star at the five star, you loaded or your 12 man roster, seven, eight of them, five stars and they going number one, you got, you got five players going in the first round. You got Devin Book and guys like that coming off your bench and Jamal Murray, bro, I'm sorry, the fans are not gonna be patient because they die

[Joe Johnson]

hard in Kentucky and they travel. They try what they try. Yes.

[Liberty City]

Hey, but hey, that's not fair. We talk about that. We talk about that all the time too, Joe. When we talk about, you know, the product that's on the court is really not a reflection of the goddamn coach. I mean, I can only do so much with the product I got on the court.

[Chad Ochocinco]

If we recruited them.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What's on the court, that's where you go ride the Mary, go round. You can get candied apples. Yeah, you can bob. You can bob for apple.

[Liberty City]

Right, right, right, right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And you can see clowns. Nah, I don't know nothing about no fair. You also judge pigs there. I just saw somebody sold a cow for a million dollars. Somebody sold a pig for 500,000.

[Liberty City]

I saw that. You saw. I saw the pig.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Liberty City]

That's the fair pig on Twitter.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. So them boosters and alumni that gave 20 plus million dollars, they ain't trying

[Joe Johnson]

to hear about this. No, sir. Kentucky used to be premier. Like when I was coming up when Rick Patino, that man was winning.

[Liberty City]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Championships, SEC championships.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Like, yeah, you go because you go for Rick Patino to tell you Rick won and then Toby turned around and won because I think, I think rick won in 96 and I think Toby won in 98 because they were very close.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And so, and, and look at the players that they, they would, they were having coming through there, man. Your Antoine Walkers, your Jamal, Mash Burns,

[Joe Johnson]

Big, big Anderson, you run Mercers, Tony Dilks. They had a man look, they kept a will.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And then you got Shay, you got Jamal Murray, you got Book, you got Cat, you got AD look, and we ain't got but one championship out of all of that John Wall boogie cousins. Yeah, and we got one Ocho. Out of all of that.

[Joe Johnson]

That's how. Hey, look, that's how hard it is to win though in college, man. It ain't easy. Just cause you put all this talent together don't do not necessarily mean that it's gonna lead to a championship. It's gonna take great coaching with that great talent and you gonna have to mesh it together and make it work, you know what I mean? Like a lot of these coaches, Uncle Ocho, they ain't really coaching like that, you know what I mean? But you got some. You got some great coaches out here who know how to coach great talent.

[Chad Ochocinco]

A lot of times if you go back and study it, I think AD AD won freshman led. I think maybe Duke. But for the most part, it's upperclassmen, it's junior seniors, graduates, guys that's played together. It's. I mean, like Joe said, them guys coming in for one year, you already know what they're here for. They want it done starting January 1st. I ain't going no class though. Yeah, I'm done.

[Liberty City]

And you think that was. You think that makes it difficult to win also when there's no continuity and some of the best players they coming in one year and they leaving.

[Joe Johnson]

And not only do it make it tough on your continuity, but it don't necessarily always. They don't necessarily always turn out to be great pros because you hadn't learned anything. You came from high school, you've been in college for six months, bro, you played the season, hopefully you got some great toolage from, you know, coaches or whatever. But once you go to the pros, it's totally different. And you get there and don't really know nothing and think it's about you, you, you. And you don't know how to sacrifice and compromise your game to be able to fit in for the team. Well, you get lost real quick.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I mean. I mean it's gonna be. It's gonna be. It's gonna be unbelievable if Duke win the national championship. Because think about it. In the last six years, they've had three number one overall picks. Zion, Paulo, Bankero, Cooper.

[Joe Johnson]

Flag. Yeah,

[Chad Ochocinco]

they had a Cam Reddish, they got Con canuppel. They had Josh, Josh Johnson. Look at all the first round, I mean, high picks, I ain't talking about no, no, no. Bottom to 25 to 30. And then second round, they got high, high draft picks.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, man, that ain't easy, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It ain't easy. But when the coach is Making the kind of money they making and when they putting that kind of money when the boosters and alumni putting that kind of money in there. Right? Hey it. Oh you, it's like the NFL when they put, when. Hey, general manager got to go head coach. Got to go bro. You see our salary count. We at the top of the salary cap. You say this is what we need. We don't spent $300 million in free. A billion dollars in free agency in contracts and we still at the bottom of the division. Nah, you got to go bro. You got to get up out of here. That's how I go. Yeah, for sure. Yukon number two UConn. The Huskies beat the Bruins 73:57. The wheel started to fall off at UCLA with a little more than five minutes remaining as UConn used a 90 run to turn a four point lead into a 13 point cushion. The Huskies out rebounded them 36, 24. Outscored the Bruins in the paint 30 to 20. Yukon Sweet 16 opponent the Spartans of Michigan.

[Liberty City]

Michigan State.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Both two guys that coaches, they love to play defense.

[Liberty City]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Dom Izzo, Dan Hurley, they pride themselves on getting up into you and playing.

[Joe Johnson]

It's gonna be a game no boy. Only thing I don't like Yukon guard playing like that in Michigan State. They guard play is superb with, with little fears at the point guard

[Chad Ochocinco]

for Michigan State. But yeah, man, Caravan had it going today though.

[Joe Johnson]

I know, that's what I'm saying. They got some, they got some wings,

[Chad Ochocinco]

they got some shooters now.

[Joe Johnson]

But man this is just hard. You look at their guard play like you get two points out of your two starting guards. It's hard to win an NCAA tournament like that, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It is, it is. It was, it was they, it was they. Their front court, man.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm talking about big time.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They got 27, 10, 17. And then Ross came up the bench and gave you 11.

[Joe Johnson]

But you, you need, you're gonna need contribution from a lot of these guys in different games. It's going to pose different challenges. So you know you'll have different guys stepping up in different games. So. Yeah, I, I like Yukon. They, they, they, they play the right way, play hard, tough. And they got a winning pedigree.

[Liberty City]

Hey, that young bull Caravan gonna have to put them boys on his back

[Joe Johnson]

now listen, you're gonna need a little

[Liberty City]

boys on his back.

[Joe Johnson]

They got next you say

[Chad Ochocinco]

they play Michigan State.

[Liberty City]

Michigan State.

[Joe Johnson]

You're gonna need some help, O Joe.

[Liberty City]

Yeah, you do. I mean he had 27 tonight, but shoot man, Reed ain't Give him nothing. Ball ain't give him nothing. Oh, no, no. Reed had 10. Make sure ball. And Smith. I mean, shoot ball ain't had no point Smith.

[Joe Johnson]

That's what I'm saying.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Your guard play 1 for 7 and 0 for 5 from 3. No free throw attempts.

[Liberty City]

You got to be a little bit more aggressive, too, right? Yeah. Search yourself. Insert yourself in the game fast. Set the tone early, because that's. You set that tone.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's the whole.

[Liberty City]

That's the hard part, though, Joe. If your shot ain't falling early, then you hesitate. You goddamn hesitant, especially in the game, man.

[Joe Johnson]

You play 32 minutes, you got to get up more than two shots.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm just saying, bro, this. This is. We just win or go home. You good?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, hey.

[Joe Johnson]

If you lose that game, you go home with them little two points, you're gonna be mad as hell at yourself. Yeah, Damn. I should have been, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I remember. I played. I played in the NCAA tournament. What'd you do, man? I had two points. No, I had no points. I had. I had two. Had two points on two shots, and the other guy had zero points. But they put Ross in. Ross played 22 minutes. So, you know, I. I guess Coach Hurley looked early on and can see that he didn't have it going.

[Joe Johnson]

So he put Ross in and he found out. So, yeah, Yukon gonna be there, bro. They keep some good talent over there.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, but they normally. Normally would be led by guards.

[Joe Johnson]

I know. That's why I'm surprised. That's why I tell you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You remember Shabazz Napier, and they had a. What's the name?

[Joe Johnson]

Kimber. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Ben Gordon, RIP Hamilton. You know, they don't. They don't. Hey, you call Ray? They normally kill. They normally keep some guards, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, they do, but, boy, they got one on their hand now against Michigan State. Zoom Boy.

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