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Chad Ocho Cinco
Calm down a little bit.
Shannon Sharpe
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Chad Ocho Cinco
Ocho, it's going the other way every time. And if you are late, it better be. It better be outside and going out of bounds.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes. So Jameis. Gimme Jameis stats. I think he was three yards short of 500 yards. Hey, listen, he had an excellent game. He was throwing the ball. He should have had 500. And Joku dropped about six of them.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Hold on. And he could have. He should have hit Judy on that first post in. Early in the game. He missed on a long one.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Ocho Cinco
You know, I had a question. I'm sitting here watching the game, right? And I'm thinking to myself, well, are they calling a different type of game plan when Jamie is back there and when Joe. Joe Flacco was back there, as opposed to a different game plan when desean was back there? Because I'm trying to understand why is the offense flowing so much more smoother as opposed to when Flack and when James is back there as opposed to when goddamn deshaun was back. I'm just. I'm just curious.
Shannon Sharpe
Don't start me the line, Ocho. I wish I could tell you, hey, I'm talking about.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Everything looks completely different. Everybody get. Everybody getting open. I mean, it just. It just. I can't explain it for my life. And everything seems so condensed, so condensed when desean was at quarterback. But either way, either way. But the numbers that Jamis has been putting up ever since he's taken over for. Since deshaun's gotten hur. I mean, it's been. It's been really good. I mean, regardless of what their record shows, offensively, they've been putting up some crazy numbers.
Shannon Sharpe
They have Ocho and we. Look, there's no denying. You don't win a national championship, you don't win a Heisman Trophy, you don't win. Become the number one overall pick. If you don't have talent and you can throw the football. J. Problem has always been turnovers. Yeah, that's his only bugaboo. It's hard to be great, Ocho, when you turn the ball over at the rate that he does. Yeah, he basically gave the Broncos. Think about it. The Broncos got 40.
Chad Ocho Cinco
What?
Shannon Sharpe
They can score 41 points. He gave them two pick sixes. Yeah, it's hard to overcome that.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
And the Bronx. And the defense. Look, the Broncos offense is pretty good. I mean, Bo Nicks is showing that. Okay. I'm sure they're happy beginning Bo, because Bo has played really well. But you can't. Ocho, you can't turn the ball over. This is what I'm talking about. People see y'all got on me because y'all say, look. So look at the numbers. Look at it. Look at Jamie's numbers. What was the difference in the game? Turnovers.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Turnovers, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
You pay Cincinnati yesterday, Ocho, you paid double. He threw the three. Two things can be true. You can be a great player, have a great game, and still help your team lose the game by turning the football over. Yeah, that's what Jameis did tonight. That's what. But, see, y'all don't want to do that. So y'all don't really want to have this conversation about Joe Burrow. Y'all don't want to have it.
Chad Ocho Cinco
I mean, we enjoy the conversation with it. And just the difference is the turnovers tonight by Jamis were in control. They were in his hands. He's throwing the ball away. Away to the opposing team. Two of Joe Burrow's turnovers, actually three of them, he had no recollection of what was going on because other players were beat. Beat. The left tackle was beat twice, and it was a strip sack. Then Cam Hayward tipped the ball like that's out of his control. That's what I call football. Sometimes the football.
Shannon Sharpe
So what? The ball is at what point in time?
Chad Ocho Cinco
And that's what happened to us yesterday.
Shannon Sharpe
At what point in time was the ball in his hands? That it's in his control?
Chad Ocho Cinco
So. So.
Shannon Sharpe
So. So if you. So if I throw you the pass and you run it and the guy punches it out, that's not in your control?
Chad Ocho Cinco
That. That. That. That. That's. That. That's. That's. That's on me.
Shannon Sharpe
That's. That's why they didn't On Joe Burrow.
Chad Ocho Cinco
I mean, because you understand. You understand based on context and watching the game with your eyes on what happened. You understand that?
Shannon Sharpe
So, so in other words, so if Joe Burrow. So if Joe Burrow has the ball in his hands, right. They knock it out his hands. That's not on joke.
Chad Ocho Cinco
He strip sack from behind while trying to make through his progression.
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, what has a receiver or running. Has a receiver or a running back ever had the ball punched out from behind? Yes or no? Not. No context, yes or no?
Chad Ocho Cinco
Yeah, of course it happens.
Shannon Sharpe
So that's not. But that's not on him because he has no control over that.
Chad Ocho Cinco
See, you try. You. You try. Come on, you try. All right. Okay. All right. I. I see. I. I see. I see what you're doing.
Shannon Sharpe
But.
Chad Ocho Cinco
But you. Right, okay.
Shannon Sharpe
What about O. You said Joe Burrow. The ball is in his hand. He has no control over.
Chad Ocho Cinco
You watch the game. You saw it with a strip sack when he's trying to look down the field and go through his progression.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Chad Ocho Cinco
DJ Watt knocks the ball out. There's nothing Joe can do if the left tackle is getting beat. Soon as it got.
Shannon Sharpe
Hold on to the ball, huh? Hold on to the ball. So all those, all those peanut. All those peanut punches, that's that. Hey, that's not on the receiver. That's not on the running back. Hey, they got no control over. But anyway, let's get a little further. James, 34, 58, 497. He was sacked three times. He had four touchdowns, three interceptions. He had a longer 70. Jerry Judy, 13 targets, had the most catches against a former team. His nine for 235 and a touchdown. Longer 70. Elijah Moore had 14 targets, eight catches, a buck 11. He played really well. Very well. And Joku had 17 targets. He caught nine passes for 52 yards.
Chad Ocho Cinco
17.
Shannon Sharpe
He had two touches. He had 17 targets. And he got so frustrated, he tried to take himself out. If I could tell. If I could tell N'joku something I said, bro, there days like this. Yeah, but you need to concentrate more. He's not. If you watch him catch the ball, he's not a natural. He's not a natural catcher of the ball.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Right, right, right.
Shannon Sharpe
He doesn't pluck the ball. Ocho, you and I, we pluck the ball.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Yeah, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
That's not him. If you watch him when he catches touchdowns, he always tries to face the ball. If you notice when you throw it, he don't want to catch it like here. He don't want. He want to do it like this. He wants to do it like this.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Yeah, it's coming.
Shannon Sharpe
If you watch it, don't look at his touchdowns. He normally is on his back. Go watch that two point conversion he got a couple of weeks ago. It was the same catch that he had. He doesn't like to catch the ball at an angle. He likes to face the ball. So maybe he has one eye that's dominant. He might need to get that checked out because you can't, Ocho. You can't get 17 targets and draw. And they were in his hands, Ocho. It wasn't like he got it. You got to be better. You got to be better.
Chad Ocho Cinco
You got to focus, get back to the basics. Hey, look that thing all the way. And find them laces, find the white on them laces. And boom, back to basic fundamentals. And you touch it, then turn and go.
Shannon Sharpe
Because the thing is, Ocho, what I tried to do at the tight end, because I can talk to N'Joku, because that's play. He played the position that I played. I'm trying to pick the ball up as soon as I can out of the quarterback's hand.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
So that's how I'm trying to. I'm not waiting until the ball gets up on me to do like this. I'm trying to pick the ball up out of his hand. Okay. I see the release. It gives me a kind of an idea. It's kind of like a baseball player. At the crack of the bat, he can kind of tell the trajectory of the ball, and he kind of goes how hard he needs to go in the direction. So I picked the ball up by his hand. I have a pretty good idea of how fast the ball is coming and where I need to get to. And so I'm tracking the ball. You catch what you. Hey, you catch with your eyes. Your hands. Just cradle it. You catch with your eyes. And he's not his eyes. Something is off with his tracking, because I've noticed that early. But like I said, he's not a natural catcher of the football. But there's no reason he shouldn't have a higher catch rate than what he has. But this was a very interesting game, Ocho. Cleveland, you don't have anything to play for. Because I hated playing teams like Cleveland because they throw effing caution to the wind. What the hell? We got to lose, Ocho. We ain't one but three games.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
We ain't going nowhere. Oh, so now go ahead.
Chad Ocho Cinco
You know what? Also, I don't know. I don't know if matter of fact, he'll see this because all the players watch these clips. That goddamn Denzel Award. Boy, boy, you the real deal. You. I mean, Denzel Ward is the real deal. He's one of, one of, one of those that doesn't get the credit he deserves. Obviously, watching him play tonight, seeing some of the plays that he make. Technique, dog, these textbook sound on so many things. So much teaching tape watching him play. And Unc, you know how I feel about good DB play. Tonight we hear good DB play. I mean, a few handsy calls that were called, but outside of that, man, Denzel Ward, beautiful game. Boy, man, I salute you.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, he got great feet. And you know, they were able to take advantage of the corners that came in there. They went right to sudden he ran the speed out. Number 17, bro, the guy's off you. Bo's going to raise up and throw you the ball.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Yes, bro.
Shannon Sharpe
Come on, man. See, that's the stuff I'm talking about. O. Even if you're not in there, you got to watch when you're not in there what they're doing. Watch the starters. If I'm not, if I'm backing up Ocho, I'm watching to see what he does. Oh, man, that corner's off, man. Look at Ocho. He just. Carson just raised up and throw him on a one step slam.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
If I get a similar situation, I'm expecting him to do the same thing.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
But sometimes you don't get to practice everything that you're gonna potentially see in the game.
Chad Ocho Cinco
You gotta be ready.
Shannon Sharpe
Sometimes you have to pick up through osmosis.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Watching someone else do it. But the Broncos, when they had them. And this is what I always tell people, Ocho, and I've always been a believer of this, be it offense or defense, if you are what you say you are, can you get done what you need to get done when you absolutely have to? You said I'm a top flight defense. Can you keep them out the end zone instead of giving them a touchdown, can you give them 3?
Chad Ocho Cinco
3.
Shannon Sharpe
If you're an offense, can you keep the ball? Can you get in field goal range or can you get a touchdown? Well, I believe the Broncos were a pretty good defense going into this game. And when they absolutely had to have it, what do they do? Pick six and another pick to keep my ends up.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Offensively, if you are what you say you are, go get that first down and don't give them the ball back. Go get in field goal range and win the game, that's the mark of anything that you would consider great. When you absolutely have to have it, can you go get it done right?
Chad Ocho Cinco
Yeah. I mean, they look good. Goddamn Bo Nicks. I never would have thought. I never would have thought. Based on how he looked at the beginning, based on how he looked at the beginning of the season, obviously there's going to be some rocky, rocky starts. And then I, him and Sean Payton going at it on the sideline to where he is now. To where he is now, his growth, his maturity as a quarterback, the plays he's making, he's obviously, he's a dual threat as well, but he's one that chooses to throw the ball first. And then outside of that off script, he uses his legs to make plays, to throw the ball downfield. And when he has to run, he runs. When he, when necessary, he looked goddamn good, boy. Bo look good. Cortland Sutton look good. And man, hell, Sean Payton, kudos to what you've done so far because last year it was, it was horrible. And the fact that you flipped everything that fast with a rookie, with a rookie quarterback, you get a thumbs up.
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Shannon Sharpe
Ocho wanted to come on here. I know all the fans want to come in here. You can't say foot or ball because both of your team lost. The Ravens lost and the Broncos. And Ocho, y'all ain't gonna say nothing but O like, man, oh, he was wanting to get me. He was wanting to get me. Ocho, let me do my thing.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Listen, actually, I wasn't even going to do it. I wasn't going to do it because I'm still feeling a little hurt about my bangles from yesterday. You know, I haven't got no.
Shannon Sharpe
Y'all suck.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Relax, relax, relax, relax. We're the best 4, 8 team in the NFL. We have the best.
Shannon Sharpe
There's no such thing.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Okay? Hey, listen. Yesterday I Went to. I went to therapy. I went to therapy today. I went to therapy today to cope with the losing throughout the entirety of the season. Because I've been betting on us. I'm betting. I'm not using. I'm not losing. I'm not using logic. I'm bed with my heart. You know, that's. That's wrong with me. You know, I'm leading with the wrong thing. I'm not using common sense. I'm using delusion. And I like it. It's hurting. It's hurting and I'm gonna get over it.
Shannon Sharpe
It ain't hurting me.
Chad Ocho Cinco
I feel good. Of course it ain't hurting you. Cause you're not a Bengal fan.
Shannon Sharpe
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. How about I feel insulted.
Chad Ocho Cinco
No, I'm not. I'm not. How you feel insulted. I mean, you just happy your team won. Don't worry about it. You will be home. You'll be home. You'll be home before the end of December.
Shannon Sharpe
I tell you what. I tell you what y'all do. I got a travel agency. Tell the guys to hit me up. I got great deals. Cabo, Jamaica. Where y'all want to go? Where y'all want to go? Y'all ain't going nowhere. Cancun, Puerto Vallarta.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Listen, if you. If you got a good travel agent, make sure you do me a favor. Make sure you let the Broncos players know they're going to be right with us about two weeks after the season over to. Whoa. Maybe a week. Maybe a week, if that.
Shannon Sharpe
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Now. We're going to be in the same place. We're going to be in the same. We're going to be in the same club drinking and drinking the same drinks. Listen to the same.
Shannon Sharpe
Told that the road to the AFC goes through Cincinnati. The road, the playoffs not gonna even go through Cincinnati.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Wait a minute.
Shannon Sharpe
The AFC north doesn't even go through Cincinnati.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Wait a minute, wait a minute.
Shannon Sharpe
Y'all over there bumping them guns off.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Wait a minute, Wait a. Wait a minute, wait a minute. This just happened to be an off year. This happened to you be an off year for us. We will be back on track next year. You have ever old Amtrak.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Chad Ocho Cinco
And you know, sometimes Amtrak, it jumped the rail. Sometime we jumped the rail. We jumped the rails this year, that's all. Yeah. Next year we'll get back on track.
Shannon Sharpe
Y'all said that last year.
Chad Ocho Cinco
We didn't say that last year.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, you did.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Who said it?
Shannon Sharpe
You did.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Me.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, oh, oh. We get a slow talk about. I Don't know why my bangles get off to the slow start, bro. Y'all won three games. So if you got off to a slow start, what the hell happened in October? November, I get. Okay, September, y'all got out to a slow start. You only won one game in September. Well, hell, you only got three wins since then. So what happened in October and November?
Chad Ocho Cinco
I didn't say that. I mean, speaking of this year, I mean, historically, our defense is bad. It's very bad. It's very bad. And then I don't even know how you fix that. I don't know. I don't know what you have to do to fix that offensively. You know, again, like you said, Joe Burrow has to play like effing Superman to overcome how bad our defense is. So yesterday, the turnovers, it hurts. Even though, to me, like, I understand your point of view, it's him fumbling the ball, but there's situations that are out of his control, and there's nothing he can do.
Shannon Sharpe
The ball's in his hand. It's in his control.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Okay, I know. I know. I know what you mean.
Shannon Sharpe
Let me ask you a question.
Chad Ocho Cinco
I'm not going to argue with you.
Shannon Sharpe
If I'm the fan. If you drive in the car and then. And you run into something, it's like, hey, okay, out of my control. You driving the car to Ojo. He got the ball. Hold on. Hey.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Hey. I'm glad you just said that. If I'm driving the car right, and you riding with me, and if somebody else. And somebody hit us from behind, is that my fault?
Shannon Sharpe
Did you stop somebody else from behind? Did you stop abruptly? Did you stop abruptly?
Chad Ocho Cinco
No, I did not.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. Well, no. No.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Okay. Thank you. See? Same. Same thing.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, but, see, I was going. See, but you type of guy that. Hey, Unc, it was raining and my car slid. You driving too fast for conditions. You see, that's in your control. Slow your ass down.
Chad Ocho Cinco
That's why I don't even like that. I don't like that hypothetical. Because when it's raining, my black ass is in the house.
Shannon Sharpe
So you've never driven in the rain?
Chad Ocho Cinco
Nah. Never. Never.
Shannon Sharpe
I promise you.
Chad Ocho Cinco
For one, I'm not. For one, I'm not getting my hair wet being outside because of the humidity in Miami. So I. I don't. I don't have. I don't have time for that.
Shannon Sharpe
But that was a Jerry Judy throw shade at the Broncos before the game my rookie year. Had a fruit, a few drops. That was the biggest thing. But the Years after that, I feel like I wasn't getting too many. That many opportunities to showcase my talent with all these different ocs and different schemes and stuff like that. So I really couldn't show my abilities and show my route running skills. It was just wasn't. It just wasn't a fit for me. I agree. It just wasn't working over there. I felt like I was a way better player than they used me as I wanted to go somewhere that would use. See my full potential and take advantage of it. He's absolutely right.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Oh, yeah. Most definitely.
Shannon Sharpe
He.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Most definitely.
Shannon Sharpe
They got down on him because he was dropping. He dropped some passes and he kind of. He was kind of nicked.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
And you're right. For whatever reason, they had a lot of ocs. We had difficult quarterbacks in and out of the lineup. And I saw the guy that won the Bnikov Award as a sophomore, the route runner extraordinaire.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Ordinary.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. He is what I saw as a junior. His last game against Michigan, he went over 200 yards. I just knew. I just knew it.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
But for whatever reason, it didn't work. And that's okay. Sometimes, Ocho, you get into a relationship, it doesn't work with her, it doesn't work with him. You get this new gal. You get this new guy.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Yes, sir.
Shannon Sharpe
And it's harmony.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
That's not a knock on nobody. It just didn't work. And if that's okay. Stop trying to figure out why it didn't. But look how good it is now. He's somewhere. They believe in him. They gave him an extension. They're getting him the ball. He's showing his ability. He's great after the catch. He has tremendous route running skills. Oh, he can stop on a dime. He's twitchy.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Oh, yeah, bro. Yeah. It's all showing up. It's all showing up things that I've always talked about that I knew we could do and couldn't understand why he wasn't getting it done in Denver. Obviously, he goes to a situation in Cleveland where he's able to display that artistry, you know, that art that I call route running. And I'm happy for him, Judy. I know you're gonna see this. Matter of fact, I'm gonna call you tonight anyway. I'm calling every goddamn body tonight. Enjoy yourself, man. Keep it.
Shannon Sharpe
Call them bagels and tell them one again.
Chad Ocho Cinco
One after another. Keep stacking them one after another. Consistent.
Shannon Sharpe
Stacking what?
Chad Ocho Cinco
Huh?
Shannon Sharpe
Stacking what?
Chad Ocho Cinco
Being consistent.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, okay.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Oh, not. Wait. Come on. You ain't got.
Shannon Sharpe
I thought you was talking wing.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Somebody win, but just stack. Stacking them consistently from a. From a personal standpoint as a receiver. And they get that once, that once you get that confidence up. Boy, it's a rap.
Shannon Sharpe
Put y'all. Put Cleveland, Cincinnati record together. Y'all still out of the playoff. Put them together.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Hey, that's not bad.
Shannon Sharpe
The state of Ohio is. Boy, y'all had a rough one. Ohio State got kicked at home, Cincinnati got kicked at home. And click. Boy, look here, boy, look at him, boy. Ohio ain't doing well right now.
Chad Ocho Cinco
When you don't gotta kick, you don't gotta kick your dog when he down. You know that.
Shannon Sharpe
That's the best time to kick him.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Kick a man Willie down.
Shannon Sharpe
That's the best time to kick a man. He right there. Right there by your foot. It's hard to kick somebody standing up. He on the ground. He right there. What better time to kick it?
Chad Ocho Cinco
He down.
Shannon Sharpe
Let me help you get up.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Hey, are you shot at.
Shannon Sharpe
Man? Ocho, man, look, I really wanted Jamis to get 500, though. I'm. Listen, I was so hoping. I said, man, I hope. Judy. Have a good game.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
To show what he could be.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Oh, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
But it wasn't going to be in Denver. He came back 235, outstanding. The Broncos got the win. It just goes to show you. And that's what I'm saying. People look at Jameis Knight, but he's undone by the turnovers. Turnovers will ruin a great game. We've seen basketball players have a great game. And then you turn the ball over. Ocho. On the last possession, you're down or you tie, you turn it over. The other team go down there and they make a basket, ruin your night. In football, you, a baseball player, maybe have two home runs driving seven. But it was his error. So we gotta stop this notion. Because somebody had a great game, you look past everything else that might have gone into it. It's just more than about their stats. Yes, we like to have stats because that's why we keep the stats. But turnovers is also a stat, and they can directly attribute to wins and losses.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Losses. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Two things can be true. Somebody can play great but have turnover that cost their team a game. Ocho. Lamar Jackson lead all players in initial Pro bowl voting. Lamar has received the most fan Pro bowl votes of any player. Derrick Henry is second. Next on the list is Saquon Barkley. Third on the list is Josh Allen. Fourth on the list. Yeah. Fourth on the list is Josh Allen. So Lamar is one, Derrick Henry is two, Saquon is three, Josh Allen is four, and Jir Gibbs is fifth. Are there any, is there a surprising omission to you?
Chad Ocho Cinco
I mean, no. I mean, you look at everybody, look at everybody that you name and look at their resume to date as of what they've done so far this season. I mean, it's, it's in, it's in the right pecking order. It's in the right pecking order. I mean, some, some Mike switch Josh Allen and Lamar, but either way, it's all, it's all based on preference. Right? Now if we, if we were to, to have an mvp, I think Josh Allen might be leading that race.
Shannon Sharpe
I think he would win that race.
Chad Ocho Cinco
You know, so it all, it all depends. And if it's fan voting, if it's player voting, it all comes down to preference, especially if it's Pro bowl voting, because everybody that you just named, regardless of order, is playing phenomenal, effing football right now. So you can't go wrong no matter what.
Shannon Sharpe
There's no Patrick Mahomes, there's no Travis.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Kelsey for obvious reasons. I know they have a winning record, but they're not playing well from an individual standpoint as a team. Yes. Individually and matter of fact.
Shannon Sharpe
Go ahead, go ahead.
Chad Ocho Cinco
I don't even think, I don't even think they would be able to go to, they wouldn't be around to go to the Pro bowl anyway.
Shannon Sharpe
Now.
Chad Ocho Cinco
They might be playing possum. You never know.
Shannon Sharpe
No, I mean, I don't think I would. I don't think they would have earned it. Now sometimes guys get to go on reputation.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Yeah. Name alone. Yeah. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
But if, if you look at it and says they, this individual earned the right to participate in the Pro Bowl, I'm going to say no, right? I'm going to say no. Now you take three quarters first of all, three quarterbacks go. I don't like the way they do it now because they have the Pro bowl before the, before the Super Bowl. So, you know, normally there's the quarterback that makes the Super Bowl. He's going to be a Pro bowl player. He's not going to go. So that's why you get these guys all of a sudden, oh, he's a Provo Pro. He was the ninth alternate. Nobody else wanted to go. I mean, once upon a time, Ocho, once, man, they like, now you got ninth and eighth guys. Come on, bro. Bro. They took the backup to Lamar from Baltimore one year to the Pro Bowl. The quarterback. Come on, Ocho. Yeah, you're taking a backup. You got 16 starters, he a backup. Nobody else wanted to go, but that's on his resume. Right, but you're right. I agree with everything you say. I don't believe Patrick nor Trav has earned the right. Brock Bowers should be the starting AFC at the Pro bowl.
Chad Ocho Cinco
At the tight end position.
Shannon Sharpe
At the tight end position. Absolutely, Absolutely. Absolutely.
Chad Ocho Cinco
He's playing. He's playing really, really well. Really well with the quarterback carousel at that.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes, yes, yes. And they getting in the rock, but he deserves it, man. Hey, I thought when I watched him as a freshman, I said, this guy. I say, this guy can play in the league. And he go, and he's really good. And then I saw him in sophomore year, I said, yeah, he'll top 10 pick. And you can see it. His ability to. His ability to track the football, his. His ability to run after the catch. You can catch it on crowd. I mean, he fluid at his size. I mean, offensively, he has. He has no weaknesses, right? And that's what you're looking for. These guys, you gotta be able to play in space. You gotta be a matchup nightmare. And he's a matchup nightmare for your safety, for your linebackers, for your corners because of his size, because of his quickness. He's really, really good. I mean, he has the potential to be historically good. That's how good he can be. He has that ability to be historically good. And you know, the Raiders tight end, you know, you go back to Dave Casper, the ghost to the post, y'all. Raymond Chester, they had Todd Christensen, They've had a history of having some good ones. Yeah, Yeah. I think. I think Dave is in the. I think Casper is in the hall too, I think. But that was a. That was a great game tonight. Christian McCaffrey, 2024 season started late and it appears to be over. McCaffrey's been placed on injury reserve due to a PCL injury he sustained in the 49ers loss to the Bills. Shanahan added that McCaffrey injury won't require surgery. He'll miss at least six weeks. With just five weeks left in the regular season, McCaffrey will not return to this campaign unless San Francisco mounted what appears to be an unlikely playoff run. And even if he ran it dead, I'm not going to jeopardize a playoff run for next season because now Ocho, I mess around and have this man. And he messed around and messed up pcl. If he has to have surgery now, I'm Going to have him. He's not going to be able to have an off season. He's going to have to rehab. Rehab. And that's what happened. You rehab it. You're not training. And so, yeah, it looks like his season is over. He didn't come to the middle of the season. And I have a simple philosophy. If you limp into the season, you're going to limp out of it.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Limp out of it.
Shannon Sharpe
Isaac Guerrero, Gardinda Garando. Garando is expected to be San Francisco lead back for the remainder of the season because what you call Watson is on IR also. Ocho. They just been. They just been hit with the injury bug. Ocho. They really have.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Hey, that's. That's unfortunate because this, this is the time of season if you want to make any type of run, even have a goddamn chance for one, you want to stay health. But to have this many people go out, I mean, it puts a damper in all your plans and whatever they may be. And hell, Shanahan might be just scratching it and just preparing himself to get everybody ready for next season. He just might be because there's no way you can compete with Mason out.
Shannon Sharpe
Jordan Mason.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Yeah. I mean, what you supposed to do?
Shannon Sharpe
It's tough, man. Cause guess what? I ain't nobody feeling sorry for your ass.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Nah, that's for sure. Never that.
Shannon Sharpe
Ain't nobody feeling sorry for you.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Never that. But they definitely the receivers. I yuke out. You know, Devo doesn't seem like the same Devo I'm used to seeing. You know, last year, Juwan Jennings offensively has really been the only goddamn shining bright light.
Shannon Sharpe
You know, kiddo kind of been nicked.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
But you know, it's been one of those years. They didn't get off to the best start. And it now the injuries are starting to mount.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
And it's only. You're only going to be able to do so much. I get that next man up. But that's coach speak.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Listen. Yeah. There's a reason you next, man. Let's start there.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes. Damn, Ocho.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
After Jeff lost a seat to the Seahawks, Rogers was asked about his pedestrian statistics. And he was quick to remind everyone it's not all his fault. There are 11 guys on the field. Sometimes it's my fault. Definitely multiple times today. And then sometimes the details aren't there in other spots. The jets are 3 and 9. They're 05. When Rogers have the chance to win the game late. He threw a brutal pick six since 2022. Rodgers ranks 30th out of 35 quarterbacks in total QBR. Ocho, at some point in time, bro, you just got to say it's me.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Most quarters when Brady. See, the thing is Brady is quick. Manny the great quarterback. And I'm not talking about the average guy. I'm talking about the great. Because I think Rogers deserved to be mentioned with those guys.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Right?
Shannon Sharpe
They ask you about you. I'm not playing Will Ocho, Shannon. You know what, Shannon, you're not having your typical year. Yeah, man, I ain't playing well. I'm not seeing the ball, you know, I just not playing well. And I, you know, I need to take advantage of the opportunities when they present themselves. I think sometimes because I'm trying to force it because I feel like the opportunities that I'm. That I normally would get aren't there. I'm trying to magnify that. So if I get an opportunity, I'm trying to make three opportunities and I can't. I'm trying to make everything a home run because I'm trying to make every. I'm trying to show everybody that I'm still that guy. That's all you have to do. Ojo, why mention anybody else? They ask you about your numbers.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Yeah, he's not going to do that. He's not going to do that. And actually they got the wrong people that are asking the questions. You know, if you, if you got the right person to ask them the question, they're going to ask the question in such a way where you have no choice but to answer it in a way that we want to hear directly. Not around the bush, not about your numbers. I'm talking about specifically where you can't dodge, you can't. You can't beat around the bush where you can't even mention anybody else because the question is going to be directly pertain to just you not even giving you the angle to be able to put others in it. Yes, we all know it's a team game, but we ain't talking about the team right now. We talk about you.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Chad Ocho Cinco
It'S all in the questioning. All in the questioning.
Shannon Sharpe
It's just, it's just tough for him. And it's. Ocho, when you've been great for a long time and all of a sudden you're not great anymore and you see your mortality. Yeah, man, that thing, hey, it's tough. He can't go get you them 300 yard games in them four touchdown games like he could in Green Bay. He can't just whip it when last time you see him do this? When last time you seen him do that?
Chad Ocho Cinco
This. The discount double check.
Shannon Sharpe
Or, or you know his favorite thing he pumped.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Oh, yeah, that little fist. Yeah, we, we, yeah, we ain't get that. We might get. We might get it next year.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, he must be playing golf or something.
Chad Ocho Cinco
I listen, wherever you're gonna be playing, I know one thing. The, the jets don't have no options right now.
Shannon Sharpe
Him on the run, they still don't even with him there, they don't have an option. Ocho, he's about to be 41. He's about to be 41.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
What situation do you get better with age, playing a professional sport at that age? I'm not saying that like when you know Ocho, you know, you in your 20s and you head towards your prime, he's long, passive prime. So when do you start to get better at that age?
Chad Ocho Cinco
Yeah, you right, you right, you right. I'm. I'm still in my prime. I probably still play right now, now I think about it. But go ahead.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, you can. 2K, you can. Coach Belichick believes Aaron Rodgers could easily rebound in 2025. He could easily rebound from that and be ready to play and have a good year next year. You look at all the quarterbacks in the league that are kind of their second teams and they're doing pretty well. Russell Gino, Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield, you go right down. Matthew Stafford, for that matter, Jerry Goff, these guys, which teams they get into a different system, things get a little different. Whatever is the previous experience, it changes when the guy has a long career and good career. Sometimes one season is just a bump in the road and not necessarily end. But here's the difference between Aaron Rodgers. Tell me the expectation from those guys compared to him. Who said Russell Wil. Who said Geno Smith, the Seattle Seahawks was a quarterback away from the Super Bowl? Sam Darnold, they were a super. They're a quarterback away from the Super Bowl. Minnesota, Baker, Mayfield. Now I get Matthew Stafford. They put him in an ideal situation. Talent at the yin yang. So where is he going? Because at the end of the day, Ojo, I'm going to have to like forego potential for one year, the opportunity to develop a quarterback and move forward into the future for one year. Are you willing to do that, Ocho, based on what you've seen a 41 year old quarterback?
Chad Ocho Cinco
But hey, listen, you know how the owners are, right? You know how hard it is to find adequate quarterback play or quarterbacks that are just Good. Especially with a resume like that. And sometimes, you know what you say, you know, we shouldn't even be looking about what you've done in the past is what have you done for me lately? But quarterbacks get the different type of grace as opposed to other positions out there.
Shannon Sharpe
You're absolutely right.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Different type of grace.
Shannon Sharpe
And when you try to critique a quarterback, their supporters and others say, bro, I'm not trying to take away what he's done. I can't, nor would I attempt to. He's still a four time league mvp. He's still a Super bowl winning super bowl mvp. But what does that have to do with right now? How does he look right now? When you watch Aaron Rodgers? If Let me ask you this, I'm going to take Rogers off the back of his jersey and I'm going to put dirt, I'm going to put Smith, I'm going to put Kicklider, right? Are you saying, you know what if that guy goes somewhere else, they can win a championship with him? No. You're not saying that. It's just because what he once was. Just because you were that, that doesn't mean you'll ever be that again, right? D. I'm, I just love.
Chad Ocho Cinco
So I, I'm just from. You think, you think he'll be back next year and if he's not back next year, what other team? What would be a good spot for him to actually go?
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know. I don't, I don't, I don't know. Because in order, Ocho, in order to like, why am I going to delay, why am I going to kick the can down the road for one year? Oh, I need to get my quarterback right. Say what you want about Sean Payton, he knew Russell Wilson wasn't quarterback. I'm not willing to kick the can down the road again. I will get my quarterback in here right now and I'm going to go, I'm going to try to win now. I'm going to take my lumps. I think the Broncos are better than they thought they would be. I thought they just wanted to get, they wanted to get his feet wet, wanted to get going and said, okay, next year we're going to be able to contend for the division.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Oh yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
But Bo Nicks is ahead of the curve. And so with that being said, that was the right move. Ocho, if you know the guy that you have on your roster isn't going to, is not in your future plans, it is better to move on. So the question is, I bring him in where these quarterbacks are coming out, you got your door coming out. You got Cam Ward coming out, you got Jackson Dark coming out, you got Carson Beck coming out, you got these guys coming out. Okay. If you want to say I want a veteran presence for a year, but this notion that Aaron Rodgers now puts you in a situation to win a Super bowl, that's null and Boyd. Nah, that's null and Boyd.
Chad Ocho Cinco
But they were you, they would. Oh, they would use that narrative and use it as a crutch simply because of who it is and what he's done. Again, certain individuals are given a different type of grace. And I'm not gonna get into all that, but that's a whole nother story.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. So that's. That's all I'm saying, Ocho, is that.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Cause at the end of the day, it comes down to consistency.
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Shannon Sharpe
Your quarterback's gotta be consistent. You can't have these waves. You can't be up and down. Look at the quarterbacks that win championships. Look at. Look at them in this super bowl season. And he's all over the place. I mean, the numbers yesterday were bad, but he hadn't played well this year. He had a game or two that you like. Okay.
Chad Ocho Cinco
He's showing, showing flashes of brilliance yet again.
Shannon Sharpe
And that's what I tell people. As you and I was older, we could put together a game, but we couldn't run them back to back like we could in our prime. Hey, give your boy that thing. Let your boy to. Hey. I. Hey, big play. Shake could take the game over, right? I could, but it was spaced out. Once every month, once every six weeks. I couldn't put them together back to back to back.
Chad Ocho Cinco
I got you. You know, I put them together back to back now, you know.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Something else.
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Chad Ocho Cinco
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Shannon Sharpe
The Chicago Bears fired clear coach Matt Eberfluss on Friday creating what team president Keron Warren believed will be the most highly sought after opening in the NFL in 2025. Warren cited the fans tradition, cap space, draft capital, young roster, including the presence of Caleb Williams to back up his statement. When you look at all of these elements as what, as we sit here today, we are in a huge, we are in a unique situation. This will be one of the most coveted jobs in the National Football League this year and Ryan Polls and I need to work hand in hand together to make sure we bring that to life not only from the head coach standpoint, but from the entire staff standpoint. The Bears joined the Jets Saints as team to fire their head coach in the season this year. Ocho, do you believe the Chicago Bears will be one of the most coveted jobs from a head coaching staff from a head coaching position in the NFL?
Chad Ocho Cinco
I think so. I think so simply because you have a quarterback. You have a quarterback that you can work with. The quarterback has a foundation, he has something that you can work with. Depending on who comes in there, what type of offense are you going to have for that foresaid quarterback? Can you find a way to keep DJ Moore happy? Can you find a way to keep Ken Allen happy? Adding some more pieces to that team offensively, I think it could be a nice job. It all depends on who the coach is. I told you what I told, I told you what I said and what I like. Hell, I like goddamn Bill going there. Hell, I like goddamn Bill going anywhere. I think all Bill needs is a goddamn quarterback. An organization like Chicag be perfect for Bill. They're going to give you the keys and allow you to do everything you need to do to allow them to compete in the NFC again. You know, is he going to be.
Shannon Sharpe
Able to relate to today's player?
Chad Ocho Cinco
Maybe be the Bears of old. Hell, maybe be the 85 Bears once again. You never know.
Shannon Sharpe
Is he going to be able to relate to today's player?
Chad Ocho Cinco
Listen, one of the greatest things in life that God has given everybody is the ability to adapt to their surroundings in the eras that they're in. I'm sure he will be able to.
Shannon Sharpe
How malleable have he been? How malleable has he been in his career? Why wouldn't he do it in New England then if he's so easy to adapt?
Chad Ocho Cinco
And I can't, I can't, I can't answer that for him.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, you just said that he has the ability to adapt and I just asked you why didn't you listen?
Chad Ocho Cinco
You have to be able to adapt to have that kind of success at anything you do.
Shannon Sharpe
What did he adapt to? He was rigid, hardline. What did he adapt to?
Chad Ocho Cinco
It worked. But. But you. But we in different times. I think Bill understands we're in different times. And in order for you to have that same success, some of the things that you're used to doing, you got to do them different. I think he understands that by looking at the landscape and seeing, wait, you know what, I gotta approach it differently. If I get the opportunity to be a head coach again, I can, I can see how today's players are.
Shannon Sharpe
He's a coach because now he's forced to do that.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Yeah. Sometimes that's what it takes. Sometimes. Sometimes with that, sometimes your back has to be against the wall.
Shannon Sharpe
I agree.
Chad Ocho Cinco
For you to see things differently and change your perspective in the way you do. Shit.
Shannon Sharpe
I agree.
Chad Ocho Cinco
My back bit again. Your back bit against the wall before.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Chad Ocho Cinco
It might have nothing to do with the game of football. My back has been against the wall before. It ain't had nothing to do with the game of football. I know. Okay. If I don't straighten this shit up, if I don't straighten this shit up out right now, you already know what the end result is.
Shannon Sharpe
I still believe the greatest, the greatest key to survival is adaptability. Yeah.
Chad Ocho Cinco
You got to. You got to.
Shannon Sharpe
It's not size, it's not strength, it's not speed. It's being able to adapt to the ever of changing environment around you.
Chad Ocho Cinco
And there are two things that can get in the way of that. Ego and your pride. Ego and your pride can get in the way of that. If you're able to compartmentalize and set those aside and understanding whatever that end goal may be and then it doesn't just have to be football. You don't have to be issue coaching. I'm talking about just life in general. Setting that, that pride of ego aside for the betterment of whatever end goal you trying to reach.
Shannon Sharpe
It'll help, I think if. If he's going to have to be that, he's going to have to be that kind of that Coach Belichick that's on the inside the NFL. And he can't be so rigid and he can't be so structured and he can't be so what he was in New England. First of all. He doesn't have Tom Brady running interference for him anymore.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
Because Tom was the patriot way. Yeah, you heard the guys. Bill was our coach. But we played for tomorrow.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Hold on, let me change My camera getting blurry. Hold on.
Shannon Sharpe
You're still blurry.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Hold on. Whoa.
Shannon Sharpe
Man, get your Skeletor ass face up back up by the camera, man. Damn, man. Back up, Ocho. Yeah, that's better. Yeah. You need to shave, too. Huh? You got razor bumps. I see them.
Chad Ocho Cinco
I ain't got no reason.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, you do. Yeah, you do. I ain't no Skeletor had razor bumps.
Chad Ocho Cinco
That's all clean that way.
Shannon Sharpe
That's Skeletor.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Nah, that's all clean.
Shannon Sharpe
Council Grayskull.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Hey, hey. This is all clean. I just need a haircut. Once I clean that up. Put a little C. You got. You use Sea Breeze. You know what Sea Breeze is?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I knew Sea Breeze. No.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Hey, put a little Sea Breeze. I look good.
Shannon Sharpe
Y'all remember he man in Skeletor? Craftsman Graystone.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Yeah, I used to watch that on tv. I used to watch that on tv. Ain't nobody people in the chat, they too young for that.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, they are, actually. Since the Panthers traded Deontay Johnson to the Ravens in October, Johnson has all been. Has all but been invisible. Ocho. He's played 39 snaps in five games. Sunday marked the new low after losing Rashard Bateman to injury. John Harbaugh, staff chose to go with Tylen Wallace over Johnson, resulting in a healthy scratch. The situation is strange. Johnson was acquired near the trade deadline to provide the Ravens reinforcement at the receiver position, but he can't get on the field right now. Harbaugh didn't help matters much, remaining vague about when asked about Johnson today. At this time, I'm going to have to wait. There are some moving parts that they're going to have to figure out and explore and see where we're at. It's the best I can do in the fairness of everybody. Ocho, what's going on, bro?
Chad Ocho Cinco
I mean. I mean, I don't think he knows the offense yet. He doesn't know the offense yet. I think obviously Lamar has to trust him to be able to have him in the offense. For one, he's getting there late. There's only so much you. You probably. You can probably be able to do. I mean, the receivers, the. They really, really are set at receiver anyway. You know, it's not like they throwing the ball 100 times a goddamn game. They are a running team, and they throw the ball second. So the need for another receiver, especially one like Deontay Johnson, I don't think that was a great fit for him anyway. That wasn't a great fit for him. You know, he. He's a route runner and you know, you know, twitchy and in and out and being able to, you know, create. Create all that, that's just not the right offense for him. I don't think it is. It's the right fit and it's just an unfortunate situation for him.
Shannon Sharpe
But. Oo, can we be honest?
Chad Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Is there ever a right fit for a wide receiver in Baltimore?
Chad Ocho Cinco
No, it never has been because they've always been a run dominant team. Yeah. Yeah. But he. He had no choice about, you know.
Shannon Sharpe
Where he was when he got traded. But that's the thing. So I can only show you so much.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Because you run the football. And with that being said, so. And you brought me in on Joe. It's not like I'm familiar with this system. It's not like I played in the system in Carolina. And this is the exact system that you're running here. And so it's going to be. If you notice, I thought they would give. You see what they did with D Hop. They gave a little bit. They gave him a little bit more. They gave him a little bit more. They gave him a little bit more. Now he can eat.
Chad Ocho Cinco
That's different. It's a different offense. And D Hop fits that system in general, so it's easy to. It's easy to string him along little by little and give him bigger packages as time goes on. Over. Over there, you already got Bateman, you got Zay Flowers, you got. You got Likely, you got. Goddamn. Yeah, I mean, they. They already. They. They feel. They feel. So where do I fit in? Why did you even trade for me? That's. That's what I'll be asking myself. I hon know what I would do? I would ask them to release me. I would ask them release me to allow me to go somewhere where they're going to actually need and use me in the specific skill set that I do have. Deontay Johnson is good at what he does.
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho.
Chad Ocho Cinco
It does not fit that Raven system.
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho, he got traded from the Steelers. He got traded from car. He got traded from Carolina.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
Now, there's some issues in Baltimore. Now, you know, your next stop is probably out the league, okay. So you got to be careful. We talking about release.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Okay, I see what you mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Come on now. We talk about it in a year's time.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Pittsburgh, Carolina, Baltimore.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
At some point in time. Now, the common denominator with Pittsburgh, Carolina and Baltimore.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
Is him.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
So everybody, everybody, everybody don't get that Daniel Jones treatment. You See? Okay. Okay. I'm glad. I'm glad. Kvon Thibodeau says the NFL locker room should be a function of meritocracies. When asked about players voicing their opinions. If you make plays, you have a voice. If you don't make plays, you don't have a voice. Well, that's kind of how it is.
Chad Ocho Cinco
That's how it is, anyway. Yeah, that's exactly. That's exactly how it is. And it's always been that way. That never.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Chad Ocho Cinco
It never changed.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Now sometimes great players don't want no voice. They just want to go do their job.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
But what we can have is guys that ain't making no plays thinking he got a voice that dominates the locker room. Man, sit your ass. Sit your butt down.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Yeah, you always got one of them on every team, though, too. Now.
Shannon Sharpe
You do. You do.
Chad Ocho Cinco
You always got one of them on every team.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, for sure. And. But. But, Tim, I mean, bro, that's how it is. That's how. That's. That's the way it's kind of being. That's those guys that make plays, guys that are your better players. Those are the guys the coach is going to look to and ask questions. Now, sometimes, you know, coaches know. I mean, the city is only so big. Even New York. Yeah, I don't care. Coaches and the teams gonna find out what you be doing. So if you at bars and you hanging out every night, they gonna know now, right?
Chad Ocho Cinco
The NFL know what everybody's doing in season and off season and off season. They know your whole crew, they know your girls, they know everything. Which is so funny. I mean, I. I'm not gonna get into that because I ain't. I'm not into. And it's not like I'm exposing anything, but players think they getting away with stuff on outside of the field.
Shannon Sharpe
They're not.
Chad Ocho Cinco
They little do they know, but they know I don't listen. It's some stuff. Not that I would do anything wrong, huh? But they brought it to my attention. And what I was doing in the off season, I'm way in goddamn Miami. Well, how the hell you know? I'm on vacation off season. I can come back. I can come back for minicamp, a training camp or off season program. Man, they can run down everything I did. My. It wasn't even no goddamn social media back then. So how the hell y'all know?
Shannon Sharpe
They know. Hey, they know how much money you spending, what you paying on your stuff, how much you owe.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Now the team's gonna pretend like, they don't know because they don't want. Like, well, y'all didn't know. Why didn't y'all take it for. Well, we didn't know. They know everything.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Everything. That's one of the reasons. I hate to throw this little tidbit out here. That's why they never have a reason. Paying us all these millions and millions and millions of dollars. Because they're gonna get it back anyway. They gonna get it back anyway. They ain't tripping.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, they. They got the best. All them retired FBI agents and all that, they go work for the sport. They go for. Work for leagues.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Yep.
Shannon Sharpe
All these detectives that when they retire from the NFL, they go work for the leagues. NFL, NBA, mlb. That's what they do. And these guys are really good.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Tyrod Taylor. Taylor has reportedly filed an eviction lawsuit against his ex girlfriend, Trey Michelle.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Eviction?
Shannon Sharpe
Hold on. Who is refusing to leave the house he paid for. The relationship, which ended a few months ago, initially seemed amicable, with Taylor buying a home for Drea and her family while they were together.
Chad Ocho Cinco
That's romantic.
Shannon Sharpe
The two reportedly had an agreement. Taylor would pay for the home, but Drea would rent it from him, with plans to purchase it outright, eventually making her the new owner.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
However, the breakup threw a wrench into those plans. Shortly after parting ways, Dre moved on with NBA player Jalen Green, with whom she shares a child with.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Oh, that's young boy from Houston, huh?
Shannon Sharpe
That is correct.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Hey, boy, he nasty with it, too. Boy, he nice.
Shannon Sharpe
The development scene caused Taylor to renege on their agreement, igniting a contentious battle over the home. The situation escalated when Drea, who was out of town on a business trip, received a frantic call from her nanny saying that the sheriff's department had shown up at the home, claiming they were there to enforce an eviction notice. Oh, Ocho, what's going on here?
Chad Ocho Cinco
I don't. I don't know. I don't know.
Shannon Sharpe
But.
Chad Ocho Cinco
But listen, listen, You. Oh, my. What? This is good. Huh? This is. This is good.
Shannon Sharpe
This.
Chad Ocho Cinco
This is a lot of stuff to unpack. But if we have an agreement, right, While we're together and we break up now based on that agreement, you're supposed to be renting from me while we're together. I got the place for you, but you're going to run for me until you're ready to purchase or buy at any point if we break up, right? And I bought you that. I mean, wouldn't you want to leave anyway and then, you know. No disrespect. You move on, we break up and you with somebody else and you have a child with that individual. But you get to be in the house that I paid for.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I would have got on out the house.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Come. Come on now. And obviously that's what I'm saying I'm.
Shannon Sharpe
Looking at from my point of view.
Chad Ocho Cinco
I got you saying once you have a child from somebody else, right? Then you become his responsibility. Anything I got going on, especially if my name is on that lease, if my name is on them deeds, then there should be no reason why you shouldn't want to exit that property anyway.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, I guess her argument is, says I'm renting it from you. With the thing is that I'm going to purchase it. So whatever my circumstances are after that, that's none of your concerns. I'm gonna buy the house.
Chad Ocho Cinco
None of my who shit me.
Shannon Sharpe
So you mad because somebody else put meat on your ex? Hey, you mad because somebody else put meat in the hood?
Chad Ocho Cinco
Once somebody put meat on your ex and she gets pregnant, you are no longer my responsibility.
Shannon Sharpe
Ojo. She wasn't asking you to be her responsibility. She ain't gonna buy the house.
Chad Ocho Cinco
You got to get up out my stuff. My name is. My name is on there, Ocho. My name is on there. Getting out there. Shalom from somebody else, have a child with them, and then bringing the child under the roof that I. Come on, Ocho.
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho. She said we had a verbal agreement that I was going to rent.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Is it on paper? Is it on paper?
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Chad Ocho Cinco
Hey, you tripping? Do you hear what you're saying?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, Ocho, I'm trying to. Ocho, I understand how difficult it is, okay? We were together. I'm renting you the house. You let somebody else come up in the house that you and I shared that you Renting. Put that thing on you. You have a child with them. And now you say, hey, everything you say, everything is status quo. I want to buy the house. I'm feeling some type of way. I do. I do, Ocho. I'm feeling some type of way. But if I gave you my word, Ocho, I am. This is how I am, Ocho.
Chad Ocho Cinco
If I gave you my word, man, man, please don't tell her. Come.
Shannon Sharpe
Goddamn you Gave you away.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Hey, man, don't you. Hey, don't piss me off on here tonight now. Now I was crying. Listen, I was crying last night. Now you about to piss me off. I don't care if you don't care. Nobody no word. You better take that back. She get pregnant some from somebody goddamn else and living up in your Wasn't somebody else child. Hell, no. Oh, hell, hell, hell, hell, no.
Shannon Sharpe
Hell, no.
Chad Ocho Cinco
No. Okay, listen, I'm one. I'm. I'm for everything. I love everybody. I give any and everybody grace, but at some point you got to draw the motherfucker. God forgive me for cursing. At some point you got to draw the line because now you taking advantage of me. Now you're taking advantage of me and my situation. You're taking advantage of knowing that I'm nice. No, come on, man. Hell, hell, hell, no. Hell.
Shannon Sharpe
What? Let me ask you a question.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Wait, wait, wait. That's my place. My name was on the deed. You left somebody else in my stuff, and then you let him let his swimmers get up in there, get you pregnant, and then you want to bring the baby from somebody else in the place. Oh, hell no, man. You got. Man, listen, it's bad. Listen, it's bad enough, man. You can do your thing. That's. That's one thing. You know, you. We break up, you leave you with somebody else, and y'all doing your thing. That's cool. I ain't tripping on that. My place.
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho should have. Ocho, what should have happened once they broke up, you got to go. Once you let her live there and she, she. Now we're not together.
Chad Ocho Cinco
That's the grace part. That's the part of being graceful because there's somebody that you once cared about. That's the grace. That's the grace that Tyrod Taylor was extending to Ms. Michelle. You know what? I really cared about you and I loved you at one point, but things didn't work out. Work out between.
Shannon Sharpe
You know what I mean?
Chad Ocho Cinco
But I'm not going to let you. I'm not going to leave you by the wayside I'm going to let you stay here. But now, whoa, things turn. Yeah, things turn. You had somebody. You had somebody part the motherfucking seat like Moses and gave you a child. You birthed a child. So the situation has changed from that point on. Don't play with me. Don't take.
Shannon Sharpe
In other words, you mad. Oh, boy. Put that baby grave in them. Her.
Chad Ocho Cinco
What you mean?
Shannon Sharpe
Why would you.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Why would you be mad? Y'all broken up. You're not mad at that point. But.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. Would you go sell the house?
Chad Ocho Cinco
You're taking my kindness for weakness. No, stop.
Shannon Sharpe
You said you. You said you didn't care. That old boy put that baby gravy on her. Go ahead and sell her the house. No.
Chad Ocho Cinco
What? It's his job to get you a house. What you talking about?
Shannon Sharpe
He gonna get us that house. He gonna buy this house for me. That's the house. He gonna buy this one. You being petty now? You don't want to sell the house? You just being nasty, Ocho. You being ugly.
Chad Ocho Cinco
No, I got a question. Hold on, hold on. If. If that's the case, if he was gonna get the house, he would have got it by now. What are we waiting on?
Shannon Sharpe
He just got that new extension.
Chad Ocho Cinco
If they got. They got a child together, shouldn't they be living together or. No, he lived there.
Shannon Sharpe
He lived there. He in Houston playing. So when he come to la, he be there.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Oh, shit. Damn. That's crazy.
Shannon Sharpe
That's the only thing I'm saying I get what you saying. Once we break up, you're gonna have to vacate the premises. Right? That's all I'm saying. And now we don't run into this problem because it's not like you're expecting her not to have somebody. She's an attractive lady, so obviously she's gonna give somebody. And where she gonna go? She can't always go to his place. She can't always go to the hotel. She gonna bring him. She's comfortable enough to bring him back to her place. That's. That's. That's my only argument, is that once y'all broke up, you should say, Drea, you're gonna have to leave.
Chad Ocho Cinco
So, initially, right away.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Okay, you right. You're right. But again, look at the grace. You know what? I once. I once loved you. You see how. You see how they take your kindness for weakness? I once loved you. So I don't have no problem with. You continue to rent until you find a situation where you can.
Shannon Sharpe
What Tina say?
Chad Ocho Cinco
Move yourself.
Shannon Sharpe
What Tina Turner Say, what's love got to do with it?
Chad Ocho Cinco
It never does. It never does. Because when it comes to. Wait, wait, let me. Let me finish before you even go to it. When it comes to the other species, the great speech is one of the greatest, one of God's greatest gifts to not just Earth, but to man as well. It's always conditional. It'll never, ever be true love, ever. I don't care what nobody say. It's always conditional, fellas. Remember that. Listen to me. Always. Because if at any point you are unable to provide what she fell in love with, but things happen to change. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Tell them. Show me that love. Tell me. Show me love. If you lose your ability to provide or you lose that job, see how long she stick by you.
Shannon Sharpe
All right, that's. But see, that's the. That's why I don't get Ocho. Well, we break up and we stay. Well, I'm still. I'm still in the apartment cup.
Chad Ocho Cinco
You.
Shannon Sharpe
You. You just asking for trouble down the road.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Yeah, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
That's all. That's all I'm saying. And I get it. And I get you. Look, you try to be generous, right? You really do, Ocho. And you're right. People take kindness for that. And it's just that I just felt that if that was the case, like, once we break up, just go ahead and move on. I'm gonna move on. You move on, and then everybody. Everybody going to be happy. Yeah, but once you let it go on and then you have people start coming in and out.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Hey, just think about that though, huh? That just like. Like sit back and think about that. I'm giving you the grace to stay in my place even though we are broken up and my place with my name on the deeds, you move on. But you got somebody else in my shit. Like, logically. Think about that real quick.
Shannon Sharpe
But she said, theoretically, I'm paying you rent. I mean, if you pay a rental apartment, you gonna let the landlord come down there and say, you can't put no meat in nobody of it. Hey, hey, you putting great. You putting baby gravy on somebody. Like, I'm paying 3,000, 4,000, whatever. I don't know. Look, I'm just speculating, guys. I'm just throwing out a number, so I don't want people saying, well, you know, I'm just throwing out a number. You paying X amount of dollars. You're not going to let. You're not going to let the landlord tell you who you can and can't have over so that. That's all I'm saying. I think, for me, the mistake that was made is that when they broke up, they didn't really break up. They just. Because when you break up on children, you got to separate, because if you keep hanging around, you're gonna have feelings involved.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Right, right, right, right.
Shannon Sharpe
And there's somebody that. That's how people get hurt. Just move. Just. Just move on. Make a clean break. Because. Because I don't know if maybe they was like, hey, we taking a break? And there'll be some point in time, they'll reach some level of reconciliation, conciliation.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Right, right.
Shannon Sharpe
But here's the thing. The longer you go. Because here's the thing. We start here, Ocho. This here gets wider and wider. Now, look, you see what's in there? Look at my hands get wider, right? That's an opportunity for something else to come in between.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Hey, right there. Wait, wait. Go. Go back a little bit. Go back, go back, go back. Right there, right there, right there, right there, right there, right there, right there, right there, right there, right there. See? See that. That. That. That small space area right there? That space right there. When you're apart, that's the space I call consider your bitch fucked. Yeah, that. That.
Shannon Sharpe
That.
Chad Ocho Cinco
That. Look, that little, small junction when you go from here. But right here. Yeah, that's. That's the space of consider your bitch fuck. Excuse my language.
Shannon Sharpe
No, Ocho, she ain't gonna do it like that, though. If she love you, she'll. Wait a minute.
Chad Ocho Cinco
No, no, I'm. No, I'm talking. I'm not. No, I'm talking about. I ain't talking about.
Shannon Sharpe
No, I'm saying if she loved. Well, I don't know how. Listen, because they did a great job. They did a great job of keeping it secret. I didn't know they had broken up.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. Listen, love is conditional. You hear me?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Now, you've got enough experience. You got enough experience to know you got enough experience. I don't say he need to preach to you. You've been through. You. You've been through it. You've been through a lot. You know? Absolutely a lot. I got experience. This ain't my first rodeo. I didn't been around the block seven, 11 times. All right? I'm not here to preach, and I'm not talking about my. My situation specifically, but I'm just saying in general, for better context, for the people that are watching in general. Like, I was born at night, not last night, you know, but, you know, and it is. Let me see. How do you say it? Things. Things. Things are. Things are good. For the lack of better words or phrases to use.
Shannon Sharpe
You good? You. You good, huh? Hey, y'all been talking. Y'all been communicating. I know.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Hold on. Time out.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Ocho Cinco
A long mountain to climb. It might be worse than Mount Everest, but, you know, like.
Shannon Sharpe
You know, like Edmund Hillary went up Mount Everest without the breathing apparatus that they have currently. So it can be done?
Chad Ocho Cinco
Well, yeah, it can be done, but I got asthma.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Hey, that's okay. I. I played my whole career with exercise induced asthma.
Chad Ocho Cinco
For real?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Got inhaler and everything.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Keep it on me.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Hey, that. Hey, that. That was. That was a good. That was. Hey, I didn't know that. That was. God damn. That was. That was a good topic.
Shannon Sharpe
Me, Ocho, I. I look, but.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Huh?
Shannon Sharpe
That's.
Chad Ocho Cinco
That's. That's taking someone's kindness. It is weakness.
Shannon Sharpe
Come on now, Ocho, for me, at this junction, I walk away.
Chad Ocho Cinco
You would. And just leave the house with your name.
Shannon Sharpe
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, Ocho, no. I'm not gonna leave the house. Maybe just say, hey, this is what. This is what the house is valued at, right? Give me that. But hold on. Hold the thing. You gonna get. Hey, I'm gonna put the house up for sale.
Chad Ocho Cinco
So where are you supposed to go when he come to la?
Shannon Sharpe
No, no, no, no, no, no. Dang. His house. He don't live there. He purchased that for her. He got the house. He got. Yes. It's to my understanding that.
Chad Ocho Cinco
You see how nice that is?
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Chad Ocho Cinco
In this economy, you got somebody buying you a house, you know how hard it is to find. Excuse me. You know how hard it is to find a dude that's willing to buy your house and then let you keep it once y'all break out?
Shannon Sharpe
Come on, now. You making my point. That should have been as soon as they broke up. Ocho, you got.
Chad Ocho Cinco
You got me. You got me here sweating.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, I get it. I get it.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Buying a house, but you can't. You can't even get dudes to get you a cup of coffee out here. You gotta go buy your whole house and you want to play, man. All right. Yeah, okay. Yeah, okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Listen, y'all got my dog Ocho, hot. Y'all don't get my co host hot about this.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Listen, one of. One of my favorite phrases is always. Always has been. I mean, Santa since high school. She's never yours. It's just your turn. That go. That goes in all situations. Everyone has an expiration date. No matter how long, no matter how much. Oh, Lo, I'm so in love, man. Please, everything.
Shannon Sharpe
I ain't feeling like Ocho, tank me.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Nah, I, I'm not trying to taint you. I ain't trying to taint you. I'm trying to find. I'm trying to find you somebody because, hey, listen, no matter what's happening, no matter what goes on, no matter what the hell I say on this, February is still around the corner.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Ocho Cinco
I'm going walking, I'm walking down somebody aisle. You, you're not here.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, we go, hey, we going to be going to New Orleans. So you'll be walking down the aisle of that plane. We going to New Orleans, mo folk. Hey, that's the. We gonna be walking down.
Chad Ocho Cinco
You know what? I, I, I feel, I feel so good. I don't, I don't know what it is. Just, just life and everything is, just, is going so well. It's just, you know, been ups, little down, little, little downs here and there, but the, the, the good outweighs the bad so much. I can't even be upset.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Ocho Cinco
I can't even be mad.
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho, I think you and I are saying the same thing. I think, you know, they get the house, he gets her. He's like, okay, I got this. And you stay here. You can rent the place from me.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
And with the agreement. And that's the thing, we're gonna go to court. And see, this is why I hate courts. Because don't nobody get, don't nobody get pleased but the lawyers. Because you paying 500, 750, $1,000, $1,500 an hour and them hours accumulating, trust me. And somebody doesn't play a lot of damn lawyer fees over the last year and a half.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Yeah, man. Yeah, a lot. It's bad when you get the system involved, man. You just wasting your money there.
Shannon Sharpe
And then, you know, because the lawyers that we deal with, they won't. They want a quarter of a million retainer, and they start building off that.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
And before you know it, they call you. Hey, they send an email, they need another 150, they need another 250. And before you know it, you at 750. And now guess what? Now you got investigators that they charge you 250 an hour. And so before you know it, hey, if in six months, a million dollars.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Just like that, huh? But, but it's love, huh? Love calls, man.
Shannon Sharpe
I just, I'm just trying to take, I'm talking to Somebody that had been. That has gone through it.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Yeah, listen, you ain't got to listen, you ain't got to tell me. There have examples before you. There would be some after you, and there were some before you. Love costs. And when it ends, you know what? They taking half with them. Because it was never love to begin with. It was always conditional. What can you do for me at any point, the situation for the woman that you're dealing with, when the situation is no longer convenient and the opportunity isn't beneficial. Let me see that love then. Well, it's easy to love when everybody's happy. And when happy and everything going and she getting what you want and you getting what you want. Yeah, the love. Oh, I'm so happy. Yeah. Okay. Holler at me when that hurricane come through. Holler at me when that storm come through. Holla at me when I'm down. If I ever had one of those. Those phases where I'm down, you know, God. God, hoping and willing. That never happens. Let me see the love then. I mean, it's easy. It's easy to love when everybody happy. It's easy to love when the money coming in.
Shannon Sharpe
It is idioms.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Easy.
Shannon Sharpe
I just. I just. I just. I wash my hands with a. Here. Hey, this. What? Hey, what is this? I find me a real estate agent. What's this house worth?
Chad Ocho Cinco
You getting up out of there quick, huh?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Ocho Cinco
If I.
Shannon Sharpe
If I gave him. If I gave him my word that she could rent the house and if we broke up, she could buy the house, I'm gonna honor that. I'm gonna move on, Ocho.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Because even if I am hurt, I'm not going to give her the satisfaction of noise that I'm hurt.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, always remember, Unc, you the prize. I look in the mirror, remember? You know how you say Candyman three times?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Ocho Cinco
You look in the mirror, uncle. If you ever going through it. And you always look in the mirror. You see, you repeat to yourself three times in the mirror, I am the prize. And then you know what I want you to do after that? I want you to go check your savings account.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, that's what I do first. I don't care. Huh? I do that first. Yeah, I do that first. I'm good. Hey, you.
Chad Ocho Cinco
You are the pride. You are the prize.
Shannon Sharpe
As a matter of fact, I'm in NYC right now.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Huh?
Shannon Sharpe
I'm in NYC right now. I went and saw my financial guy. He like, Shannon, we did good. I said, how good? He said, we up 27%. This year I said we did great. I said we did great. Yeah.
Chad Ocho Cinco
That's beautiful. Hey.
Shannon Sharpe
I said just hold on Just hold on to the end of the year that's all I need yeah. Hey. Yeah. I, I. Look, man. Look, I. It is what it is. You can't believe everybody. We've all been through it.
Chad Ocho Cinco
You can try. You can try.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Yeah.
Chad Ocho Cinco
You can fall by the wayside trying to do that.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. But I'm not. I'm not losing. I'm not losing sleep. I used to get. When I was younger, I tried, like, man, I'm trying to make everybody happy. I want to make this thing work. And sometimes I stayed longer than I should, and I did more than I should. And you learn from those. I learned from those lessons. And it's okay. It's okay. I don't regret doing anything that I did because it made me better and it made me appreciate that when someone came in my life and treated me the way that I thought I should be treated, so it let me know what was. What I was accepting wasn't right.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
And so now I know when people. Sincerely. Because if you can get mad at me at one instance and, like, blow up, and then all because I don't like to play no games.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
You know, you get mad at me, and all of a sudden, you don't answer my call. You block me. You send me the voicemail.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Right. Right.
Shannon Sharpe
And then. And then after a week, two weeks, three weeks, a month, you all of a sudden, you unblocked me. Call me. Well, that tells me you don't want. When I did what you needed to do.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
There was somebody out there that you wanted to get at anyway.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Right? Right. Right. Right. Right.
Shannon Sharpe
And so once you got at him and then you found out that, hey. All he wanted to do. Hey. Was smashing Dash.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Hey, listen.
Shannon Sharpe
Now, you thought you gonna be able to come back those shakes.
Chad Ocho Cinco
No.
Shannon Sharpe
No.
Chad Ocho Cinco
And listen. That. That's. That's the heart. This. This would happen when you got to be careful. When you extend grace like that. When you extend grace like that, there's always a plan B. There's always a plan B. There's always a backup plan. And not realizing sometimes in life in general, what they always think is the grass is being green on the other side. It's just fun. It's just fun. Because that's exactly how they viewing you. That's exactly how they view you because on the other side, I used to be on the other side, I used to be on the other side of the fence. At one point in life. And I see, I know how to outlook and I know how we look at it. So that's why you got to be careful extending that grace like that because. Oh, boom. Oh, I'm gonna block you for a week or I'm gonna block you for a month. I'm not gonna talk to you. I'm gonna go have my fun. And then to spin the block to come back because you extend that.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes. Yes.
Chad Ocho Cinco
Oh, man, you can't. You. You can't. You can't do it.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, I. Oh, I know, but I'm saying. Yeah, but you.
Chad Ocho Cinco
You play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes, yes, yes, yes. The volume.
Chad Ocho Cinco
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Shannon Sharpe
That length of time, you can fly from Miami to Los Angeles and back from Los angeles to Miami. 12 long hours.
Chad Ocho Cinco
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Shannon Sharpe
Every day our world gets a little more connected, but a little further apart.
Chad Ocho Cinco
But then there are moments that remind us to be more human.
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Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Episode Summary
Release Date: December 3, 2024
Episode Title: "Nightcap - Hour 1: Jameis Winston Falls Short, Christian McCaffrey Out, Belichick Believes in Rodgers"
NFL legend Shannon Sharpe and co-host Chad "Ocho Cinco" engage in a dynamic and in-depth discussion covering key NFL topics, including quarterback performances, Pro Bowl voting, player injuries, and coaching strategies. Below is a detailed summary of their conversations, enriched with notable quotes and timestamps for reference.
Sharpe and Ocho Cinco delve into Jameis Winston's recent game, highlighting his impressive statistics yet critical turnovers that affected his team's performance.
Winston’s Statistics:
Sharpe (Timestamp: 09:46): "James, 34, 58, 497. He was sacked three times. He had four touchdowns, three interceptions."
Turnover Analysis:
Sharpe (Timestamp: 10:18): "Problem has always been turnovers. Yeah, that's his only bugaboo."
Comparisons to Joe Burrow:
Sharpe (Timestamp: 11:23): "People see y'all got on me because y'all say, look at Jamie's numbers. What was the difference in the game? Turnovers."
Sharpe emphasizes that despite Winston's strong offensive numbers, his turnovers are detrimental, drawing parallels to Joe Burrow's similar challenges.
Ocho Cinco’s Perspective on Control Over Turnovers:
Ocho Cinco (Timestamp: 12:21): "He strip sack from behind while trying to make through his progression."
Analogy to Driving:
Sharpe (Timestamp: 12:46): "So, if Joe Burrow has the ball in his hands... that's not on him because he has no control over that."
The hosts discuss the nuances of quarterback control over turnovers, with Sharpe advocating that turnovers committed while the QB has possession are their responsibility.
The conversation shifts to Pro Bowl voting, focusing on the leading candidates and the absence of certain quarterbacks.
Leading Pro Bowl Candidates:
Sharpe (Timestamp: 33:08): "Lamar Jackson lead all players in initial Pro bowl voting. Lamar has received the most fan Pro bowl votes of any player. Derrick Henry is second. Next on the list is Saquon Barkley. Third on the list is Josh Allen. Fourth on the list is Josh Allen."
Ocho Cinco’s Agreement and MVP Predictions:
Ocho Cinco (Timestamp: 34:28): "I think Josh Allen might be leading that race."
Omission of Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelce:
Sharpe (Timestamp: 34:44): "There's no Patrick Mahomes, there's no Travis."
The hosts critique the Pro Bowl selection process, questioning the omission of star players like Mahomes and Kelce, and discuss the criteria that influence voting outcomes.
Sharpe provides an update on Christian McCaffrey's injury status, detailing its impact on his season and the team's prospects.
McCaffrey’s Injury Details:
Sharpe (Timestamp: 36:18): "Christian McCaffrey, 2024 season started late and it appears to be over. McCaffrey's been placed on injury reserve due to a PCL injury he sustained in the 49ers loss to the Bills."
Prognosis and Team Impact:
Sharpe (Timestamp: 36:25): "He's going to miss at least six weeks. With just five weeks left in the regular season, McCaffrey will not return to this campaign unless San Francisco mounted what appears to be an unlikely playoff run."
Philosophy on Injuries:
Sharpe (Timestamp: 36:38): "If you limp into the season, you're going to limp out of it."
The discussion underscores the significance of McCaffrey's absence and how it hampers his team’s chances, aligning with Sharpe's philosophy on the importance of early-season health.
Sharpe and Ocho Cinco explore Coach Bill Belichick’s belief in Aaron Rodgers' ability to rebound and return to peak performance.
Belichick’s Confidence:
Sharpe (Timestamp: 44:11): "Coach Belichick believes Aaron Rodgers could easily rebound in 2025."
Rodgers’ Adaptability:
Sharpe (Timestamp: 57:14): "It’s not size, it’s not strength, it’s not speed. It’s being able to adapt to the ever changing environment around you."
Comparison with Other QBs:
Sharpe (Timestamp: 46:06): "If you try to critique a quarterback, their supporters and others say, bro, I'm not trying to take away what he's done. I can't, nor would I attempt to."
The hosts discuss the factors that could facilitate Rodgers' successful return, including coaching strategies and his adaptability, while contrasting him with other quarterbacks.
The episode covers the Chicago Bears' decision to fire head coach Matt Eberflus, positioning it as a highly coveted coaching opportunity.
Firing Announcement:
Sharpe (Timestamp: 53:57): "The Chicago Bears fired head coach Matt Eberflus on Friday, creating what team president Keron Warren believed will be the most highly sought after opening in the NFL in 2025."
Potential Coaching Fit:
Ocho Cinco (Timestamp: 55:54): "I like goddamn Bill going there. Hell, maybe be the 85 Bears once again."
Belichick’s Coaching Philosophy:
Sharpe (Timestamp: 58:31): "He must be playing like Coach Belichick."
The discussion highlights the significance of the Bears' coaching vacancy, exploring potential candidates and the strategic fit for Bill Belichick if he were to consider the position.
Sharpe and Ocho Cinco touch upon various player performances, team strategies, and the broader dynamics affecting NFL teams.
Deontay Johnson’s Role:
Sharpe (Timestamp: 59:48): "Since the Panthers traded Deontay Johnson to the Ravens in October, Johnson has all but been invisible."
Team Injuries and Performance:
Sharpe (Timestamp: 60:46): "They just been hit with the injury bug."
Guarding Against Inconsistency:
Sharpe (Timestamp: 49:20): "Your quarterback's gotta be consistent. You can't have these waves. You can't be up and down."
The conversation underscores the impact of injuries on team performance, the importance of player consistency, and the challenges coaches face in maintaining team stability.
In addition to serious discussions, the hosts engage in playful banter, adding humor and personal anecdotes to the episode.
House Rental Hypothetical:
Sharpe and Ocho Cinco (Timestamps: 75:12 – 78:33): A fictional scenario about renting a house post-breakup, highlighting the complexities of personal relationships intertwined with financial agreements.
Self-Reflection on Personal Growth:
Sharpe (Timestamp: 92:05): "I don't regret doing anything that I did because it made me better and it made me appreciate that when someone came into my life and treated me the way that I thought I should be treated."
These segments provide a glimpse into the hosts' personalities, showcasing their ability to blend humor with introspective insights.
This episode of Club Shay Shay’s Nightcap offers a comprehensive look into current NFL narratives, blending analytical discussions with personal interactions. Sharpe and Ocho Cinco provide valuable perspectives on quarterback performances, Pro Bowl dynamics, player injuries, and coaching strategies, all while maintaining an engaging and entertaining dialogue.
Notable Quotes:
Sharpe (09:46): "James, 34, 58, 497. He was sacked three times. He had four touchdowns, three interceptions."
Sharpe (10:18): "Problem has always been turnovers. Yeah, that's his only bugaboo."
Sharpe (33:08): "Lamar Jackson lead all players in initial Pro bowl voting. Lamar has received the most fan Pro bowl votes of any player. Derrick Henry is second. Next on the list is Saquon Barkley. Third on the list is Josh Allen. Fourth on the list is Josh Allen."
Sharpe (36:38): "If you limp into the season, you're going to limp out of it."
Sharpe (57:14): "It’s not size, it’s not strength, it’s not speed. It’s being able to adapt to the ever changing environment around you."
This summary encapsulates the key discussions and insights shared by Shannon Sharpe and Chad Ocho Cinco, providing listeners and non-listeners alike with a clear understanding of the episode's main themes and takeaways.