Nightcap - Hour 1: Jayden Daniels, Deebo vs. Ocho, Garrett demands trade

Summary

Podcast Summary: Club Shay Shay – Nightcap - Hour 1: Jayden Daniels, Deebo vs. Ocho, Garrett Demands Trade

Introduction

In the February 8, 2025 episode of Club Shay Shay, hosted by Shannon Sharpe alongside iHeartPodcasts, The Volume, and Shay Shay Media, NFL legend Shannon Sharpe delves deep into the achievements and aspirations of rising NFL star Jayden Daniels. The episode also explores significant team dynamics, including Deebo Samuel’s rivalry with Ocho and defensive powerhouse Miles Garrett's request for a trade. The conversation is enriched with insights from former NFL players and fellow athletes, providing listeners with a comprehensive look into the current NFL landscape.

Jayden Daniels: The Runaway Rookie

Shannon Sharpe opens the episode by introducing Jayden Daniels, highlighting his remarkable rookie season where he emerged as a frontrunner for the Rookie of the Year honors. Daniels led his team to two decisive road playoff victories, showcasing leadership beyond his years.

“He did something very, very unique that very few rookies have ever done. He's led his team to two road playoff wins as the de facto leader,” Sharpe remarks ([05:50]).

Daniels discusses his partnership with Invisalign, emphasizing the importance of a polished appearance both on and off the field. His commitment to self-improvement is evident as he states:

“I have a braids and stuff like that. So it wasn't. My teeth were always straight. It was like, man, let me enhance this more,” Daniels explains ([06:44]).

Leadership and Future Aspirations

A former NFL player, referred to as Ocho, commends Daniels for transforming his team in a single season, a feat seldom seen in the league. The conversation delves into how Daniels plans to build on his success without becoming complacent.

“I just think, like you said, don't get complacent,” Daniels responds when asked about ensuring his continued improvement ([08:57]).

He credits veterans like Bobby Wagner for mentoring him, highlighting the importance of never assuming his skillset is complete. Daniels emphasizes a disciplined offseason regimen to enhance his technical abilities and maintain his edge.

“I get to be in the system that I was with Cliff another year. So I can improve on that within that system,” Daniels notes ([09:41]).

Handling Fame and Endorsements

As Daniels' performance gains traction, endorsements and increased fame come into play. Sharpe inquires about maintaining focus amidst growing distractions.

Daniels attributes his stability to a strong support system comprising family and close friends.

“Support system, mom, dad, like friends, family, everybody knows me for me,” he states ([10:34]).

He underscores the importance of balancing personal life with professional obligations, ensuring that his on-field performance remains paramount.

Miles Garrett’s Trade Request: A Quest for Championship Contention

The episode shifts focus to defensive stalwart Miles Garrett, who has recently requested a trade from the Cleveland Browns. Garrett’s motivation stems from his unyielding desire to compete for and win a Super Bowl, a goal that goes beyond personal accolades.

“The goal was never to come to Cleveland. To go from Cleveland to Canton, it has always been to compete for and win a Super Bowl,” Garrett explains ([27:53]).

Sharpe and Ocho analyze the potential ramifications of Garrett's move, discussing possible teams that could benefit from his immense talent. They speculate on the trade value, suggesting that Garrett could command two or more first-round picks, referencing previous high-value trades like Seattle’s acquisition of Russell Wilson.

“They got players, two first Rounders, to get a second rounder, the third rounder,” Sharpe elaborates on Garrett’s trade potential ([29:18]).

The conversation also touches on Cleveland’s challenges in assembling a championship-worthy roster, despite having standout players like Garrett. The need for a stable quarterback to complement Garrett’s defensive prowess is emphasized as a critical factor in making a successful trade.

“But he understands that you have to be in a position for one,” Ocho remarks on Garrett’s strategic mindset ([28:44]).

Strategic Team Building and Future Outlook

Sharpe and Ocho discuss the broader implications of Garrett’s trade request on team rebuilding strategies. They debate the necessity of acquiring a franchise quarterback and strengthening offensive lines to support defensive stars like Garrett.

“How do you stop 26? And I understand the game plan probably is if Jalen Hurst beats me, I could live with that,” Daniels muses on defensive strategies ([19:16]).

The dialogue underscores the delicate balance teams must maintain between offensive and defensive strengths to build a cohesive unit capable of contending for championships.

Conclusion

The episode concludes with Sharpe reflecting on the NFL’s evolving dynamics, highlighting the blend of youthful talent and veteran leadership shaping the league’s future. Daniels’ poised demeanor and Garrett’s unequivocal ambition exemplify the new generation of players committed to excellence both on and off the field.

“Jayden Daniels, ladies and gentlemen. He’s going to be Rookie of the Year honors,” Sharpe summarizes Daniels’ promising trajectory ([47:04]).

The discussion reinforces the essence of leadership, perseverance, and strategic team building essential for success in the high-stakes environment of professional football.

Notable Quotes

• Shannon Sharpe on Jayden Daniels’ Leadership:
  “He did something very, very unique that very few rookies have ever done. He's led his team to two road playoff wins as the de facto leader.” ([05:50])

• Jayden Daniels on Self-Improvement:
  “I have braids and stuff like that. So it wasn't. My teeth were always straight. It was like, man, let me enhance this more.” ([06:44])

• Daniels on Avoiding Complacency:
  “I just think, like you said, don't get complacent.” ([08:57])

• Miles Garrett on Seeking a Super Bowl:
  “The goal was never to come to Cleveland. To go from Cleveland to Canton, it has always been to compete for and win a Super Bowl.” ([27:53])

• Shay Garrett on Trade Value:
  “They got players, two first Rounders, to get a second rounder, the third rounder.” ([29:18])

Final Thoughts

This episode of Club Shay Shay intricately weaves through individual player narratives and broader team strategies, offering listeners an in-depth understanding of the current NFL dynamics. Jayden Daniels' rise and Miles Garrett’s ambitious trade request serve as focal points for discussions on leadership, team building, and the relentless pursuit of championship glory.

Transcript

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[Jaden Daniels]

Man, I mean, the main thing for me, you know, appearance, man, you gotta have your.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, you have them on now, right?

[Jaden Daniels]

I do have them on right now. Okay, do have them on right now. But for me, I mean, I have braids and stuff like that. So it wasn't. My teeth were always straight. It was like, man, let me enhance this more, right? So, I mean, just to partner with Invisalign, man, the parents, everything, everybody look at your teeth. Everybody look at your smile.

[Shannon Sharpe]

First thing they notice, bro.

[Jaden Daniels]

You know, that's how you get that money.

[Former NFL Player]

I have a question. I want to transition into football. Do you understand how special what you've done for an organization that has had chaos, turmoil, and they haven't been at the depths of the bottom of the NFL, but they've always been in situations that weren't in favor of them in general. You understand? You turned the organization around in one season. There's been no maturation. There hasn't been no steady progress or a progression to them turning things around. You came in in one year and literally turned the franchise around.

[Jaden Daniels]

Yeah.

[Former NFL Player]

Do you understand that?

[Jaden Daniels]

I think I'm kind of getting the grasp of that. I didn't know how. It's real talk. I didn't know how passionate Washington fan base was like me growing up, because you never seen, like, them at the top. You've seen like the RG3 years, stuff like that. But when I really got there, I was like, when I got drafted, people were like, now I'm a Washington fan. I was like, I ain't never like, heard nobody say that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right, right, right, right.

[Jaden Daniels]

But now I'm excited to see everybody, dmv, everybody around the world, you know, bringing out their Washington stuff, going out there, grabbing out the basement, hanging the flags up and everything.

[Former NFL Player]

So they excited, like watching you play. And if you're a fan, if you're a commander's fan, you understand with a quarterback like yourself what you were able to do in a rookie year where there hasn't been no room for development. You know, most you wait for rookies to develop, you know, and then, you know, you see you have a chance. But you give a team hope for the next decade based off your play this season. And I commend you, I salute you. Been a fan for a very long time, man, but what you've done was special. And not very many quarterbacks, especially as a rookie, have been able to come in and do what you've done.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When you look at what you've done, the expectations now you have to improve and build on what you've done. You can't become complacent for sure because you understand what is expected of you now. Only because they're talking about, man, this guy. Who's to say he's not a top five quarterback as we sit here and speak currently. What does Jaden Daniels need to do to improve to make sure this year wasn't a fluke?

[Jaden Daniels]

Man, I just think, like you said, don't get complacent. And I think the veterans that I had, like one person I really lean on a lot is Bobby Wagner. So that's my guy, man. We have conversations, he just teach me little things. I remember like shout out to him. I remember like we played a couple of games and rogue and we'll get back late, you know, you tired, everything. And he pulled me aside like, man, let's go get it. Let's go get in these tubs. So we, we up there like 3 o'clock in the morning making sure your body's back right. But just little stuff like that is like never thinking that you know too much. There's always room to grow. So I mean, outside you always get better technically and stuff like that. It's a blessing. I get to be in the system that I was with Cliff another year.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Jaden Daniels]

So I can improve on that within that system. But know, learning how to be a pro, you know, it's my first full offseason, so I was like, okay, I got to figure out, have a schedule like this. What I'm going to do is my ramp up period ota, stuff like that. And just always had the hunger to get better.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How do you block out the noise? Because obviously there's going to be a lot that comes along with what you've been able to do. Yeah, your quarterback in the NFL, we know what comes along with the most important position in all of pro sports. So now the endorsements are going to come now. More fame, more adulation, more praise, everybody. Hey, Cub, what's up? Everybody's a friend now. Everybody's a family member now. And as your mom said, she's like, look, I know the women are coming, but hey, my son got a Heisman pose. I got one too. I'm still farming them all out the way. How do you keep a level head and to understand that, yes, I understand what comes along with Jayden Daniels, but I don't get outside of who I am, man.

[Jaden Daniels]

I just think it comes like you said, support system, mom, dad, like friends, family, everybody knows me for me. And it's not here like, okay, let me ride his coattail and stuff like that. So that's a big part. But also it's a time to play for everything. It's going to be a time to have fun, right? It's going to be a time to go out there and party, you know, make some money, do this, that and the third. But the main thing, man, none of this happened. You don't ball on the field, right? So that's the main thing, like, how do I get better to continue the success? And knowing like, all right, first year is that like, everybody's going to have a full all season to watch a.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Film for year two.

[Jaden Daniels]

So, like, man, I got to improve on different things and get better myself.

[Former NFL Player]

Listen though, when you talk about that improvement, right? You guys were able to make the NFC championship. What pieces to the puzzle do you think you, you guys need to add to make your job a little easier so the bulk or the weight of getting things done isn't always on your shoulders.

[Jaden Daniels]

Yeah, man, I think for us, it's like, if you look at, I think I've seen some, we got like 20, some free agents like that on the team. So I mean, we got to, we.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Got to bring somebody back.

[Jaden Daniels]

We got to bring some people back. So I think overall, just in general, man, we gotta, we gotta get some people in, we gotta Bring people back. But I focus on my job, man. My job is to get better. Whoever they bring in, we holding them to this standard that we set with DQ and them set and then let the front office do what they do.

[Former NFL Player]

Now I have a question. When we talk about letting the front office do what they do, I know it's very early in your career, do you think you would have any say on who you bring in, especially from an offensive perspective, to be able to help you out and what I don't know yet.

[Jaden Daniels]

I think, I think if that time comes, we'll see if they call me.

[Jalen Milroe]

Okay.

[Jaden Daniels]

But I don't know, man. They doing their job like I tell them, man, let's bring some dogs in.

[Former NFL Player]

Well, I'm right here if you need a dog. Holl at your boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When I look, go back and look at this NFC championship game, J, you guys have played well and the one thing that you hadn't done until the championship game was turn the ball over. And you know, I'm sure DQ and WAGs have told you if you turn the ball over in the playoffs, you pay double. You had four of those things. How differently do you believe the game would have been had you taken better care of the football? Because you guys were right there until you had those consecutive turnovers.

[Jaden Daniels]

I think it came down to the wire. I think it came down to whoever had the ball last. Obviously, like you said, turnovers, especially in the playoffs, man, play a huge factor. I mean, we turned the ball over against Philly in the regular season five times. I won the game, right? But in the playoffs, you know, it's different, right? It's a different type of beast where you're going to playoffs, you're on the road. So obviously you play into the crowd playing the atmosphere and man, they got dogs over there, they got superstars.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, this game right here, you got the two time defending championship.

[Jaden Daniels]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And the Kansas City chief led by Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid. You got the the Eagles in your division. You played them three times this year. This is their second time back in three years. How do you see this game shaping up and who you have winning?

[Jaden Daniels]

I think it's going to come down whoever got the ball last. I think so. I think obviously Saquon and what they do, Jay hurts, you got AJ Brown and then on the other side, man, you got Pat. So it's hard to bet against Pat, man, especially he's been here. But I think it's who could create more turnovers, who can create more negative plays on the side of the ball, and I think it's going to come down to the end. So for me, I think it's hard to bet against Pat. I can't say, you know, rightfully so. I love playing the Eagles, right. They're in the division, but I think it's hard to bet against Pat.

[Former NFL Player]

Man, I really appreciate you, man. The legendary already icon commander's quarterback, Jaden fucking Daniels, baby. I appreciate you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Appreciate it, man. Thank you for stopping by. He's repping Invisalign. Go out there to get their treatment. He and his mom are getting. Have the treatment done. They're very, very satisfied with the treatment. Thank you again, Jaden. Mom, thank you for dropping him by. Thank you.

[Jaden Daniels]

Appreciate y'all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Jaden Daniels, ladies and gentlemen.

[Nate Thompson]

Say that, boy, you know that.

[Former NFL Player]

Hey, don't forget your McDonald's, man. Thank you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Thank you, guys. That was a very interesting conversation with. Thank you very.

[Former NFL Player]

I love you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Thank you. That was a very. That was. He's a very, very humble young man. We had him on last year at the pre draft. He came on, gave us about 15, 20 minutes ocho. And from the looks of it, he hasn't changed his Persona, the way he approaches the game hasn't changed his mom. Like I said, you recognized her before. I did. I'm like, well, who is this woman? Who is this way?

[Former NFL Player]

She don't play now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. But it was great to have him on and just to see how he was able to handle the NFL season, the rigors of the NFL season. Because you think about it, if a. If when he left, they didn't have the 12 to 8 playoffs, so they only had the 14. The 14 playoffs. So you're playing, say, 15 games.

[Former NFL Player]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, when you track like they're in the preseason, bro, they still got another six games to go. So you think about. So that's. If you play the preseason, three preseason games, 12 regular season games. That's a college season. If you go all the way. Yeah. Well, if you don't, well, you're done, you know, and they didn't. And he didn't play the bowl game. So now he's done after 12 weeks. Right. Think about it. Yeah. That's three preseason games and nine regular season games. And he's done. So now think about it. You got another half a college season to go.

[Former NFL Player]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And so for him to understand what it takes to be a pro. Professional. He's a professional athlete. A pro is how you go about doing your business. And to see how he is a pro in the utmost sense. It's a thing. It's a treat. It's a thing. A thing of beauty to witness.

[Former NFL Player]

And you can tell by the way he carries himself, the way he talks. So he's perfect for the position, especially when it comes to being a leader of men, being able to command the huddle, you know, with veterans in there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Former NFL Player]

You know, and to be able to act and be mature in the way he is now. And you could tell it started at home. Yes, it started at home.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I love to see. I love to see the support system that he has, that he has with him. His mom is always by his side, rightfully so. She obviously she was. She's known him the longest. Always has, always have, always will have his best interest in mind. And I love to see that. I love to see us come together. I love to see that support system that he has. I mean, he has a group of very strong women by his side. And so that's great to see. That was Jayden Daniels, who's going to be Rookie of the Year honors. Awards are tomorrow night. And so that's when he'll get crowned, what, AP NFL Rookie of the Year. Some very, very select, few people have won that award. It's a thing of beauty and he's very, very deserving and I'm happy to see it. But Ocho, this game, man, I mean, I go back and forth with this game, Ocho. I really do. I understand what the Eagles possess defensively. Big banjo, he likes to play nickel defense. He wants to keep Cooper DeJohn on the field. So in other words, he wants to play what we call a four, two, five.

[Former NFL Player]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Four down linemen, two linebackers, five db. The question is the Chiefs when they go with their two tight ends, because they like to play that a lot. Noah Gray, Travis Kelsey on the field, simultaneous. We know they don't have a problem throwing out of that formation because they're hoping you bring big personnel out there and that leaves a mismatch. Now you got a linebacker. Now you've got big people trying to cover Travis Kelsey, who's basically a pumped up wide receiver. I think he's the goat tight end, but we know what he does in the receiving game. And Noah Gray, who's had an outstanding season because they've given. Because when teams were taking Travis Kelsey, he was the guy that was stepping up and catching touchdowns. I was like, oh. I was like, hey, man, y'all need to cover Norah Gray. He's the one that's getting over catching Four or five touchdowns, y'all need to leave me beat. But it's very interesting because they're going to have to find a way to control that boy dog in the middle, which is Jaylon Carter.

[Former NFL Player]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He's the guy. He can win MVP of the Super Bowl.

[Former NFL Player]

Absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He has that kind of ability.

[Former NFL Player]

Absolutely. But this is the thing about the Chiefs. When it comes to the Chiefs, I think about offensively. You watch them throughout the entirety of the season, you never know who dae is going to be.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nope.

[Former NFL Player]

You never know who dey is going to be. One day it might be Pacheco, it might be Noah Gray, it might be Travis Kelsey, it might be Xavier Worthy. Hell, it might be DeAndre Hopkins. That's why I think Van Zo's job is going to be so difficult from a defensive standpoint, because you don't know who da is going to be. And Patrick Mahomes is one who's not going to make mistakes. I'm going to take what you give me. And if we got to march 98 yards down the field, I can do that without putting the ball in harm's way. On the flip side of the ball for the Chiefs, as good as Spags is with that defense, how do you stop 26?

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's the thing.

[Former NFL Player]

How do you stop 26? And I understand the game plan probably is. If Jalen Hurst beats me, I could live with that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. I'm not letting Saquon AJ Brown beat me.

[Former NFL Player]

DeVontae Smith beat me. I can live with that. But I give you hella high. Give you hell and hold on. Yeah, I give you. I give you water in hell.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. No come hella hot water in hell.

[Former NFL Player]

Out of water. 26 ain't getting it done.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Correct.

[Former NFL Player]

It ain't gonna be him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No.

[Former NFL Player]

At all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And we. Because we know. And the thing you have to prevent those explosive plays on Joe. Yes, sir. Because the Eagles are built a little differently.

[Former NFL Player]

But they do you good.

[Jalen Milroe]

All right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The thing that the Eagles are built differently than a lot of teams.

[Former NFL Player]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They're built to be explosive in the run game.

[Former NFL Player]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Efficient in the passing game. Most teams want to be explosive in the pass game, efficient in the run game. But there are very few teams that have a back like Saquon that can hit his head on the goalpost from anywhere. Anywhere on the field. And so now when you. When you have a guy that can do that. Okay, Jalen, we're not going to ask you to throw the ball 40 times a game, but we ask you to be efficient, take what they give you. Some shallow crosses, some smoke routes, some bubble screens. We're not asking you to push the ball down the field continuously. Like you see a Joe Burrow, like you see some of these other quarterbacks in the league. And he's done a great job when he takes care of the football, the Eagles have an excellent chance of winning when he puts the ball in harm's way, that's when they open themselves. Up to now, you can get yourself.

[Former NFL Player]

Beat, but I think that's what spags are going to do. You know, most of the time, obviously, it's a certain game. Spags, they always do what they do. They always play touchell.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Former NFL Player]

You know, until you run them up out of there. Now, if they have success running the ball offensively, the Eagles are one of the few teams where their style of play is like back in our day, you run the ball to open up the pass.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Correct.

[Former NFL Player]

You run the ball to open up the pass. So if they find a way to stop or contain, maybe not stop, contain. And don't allow him to hit his head off the goalpost and have big gains, then it's going to come down to the arm of Jalen hurts.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Former NFL Player]

It's going to come down to AJ Brown and Devontae Smith being efficient in the pass game. I'm curious what's going to happen.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You have to concede something. Yeah. You can't take away everything.

[Former NFL Player]

No, you can't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What do we feel? They do the best. I feel they run the football the best.

[Former NFL Player]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what I'm going to take away. I'm not saying Jalen hurts, can't throw the football. Clearly he can. He's been a pro bowl player. He finished, what, second or third in the MVP voting one year. So I'm not trying to minimize his ability to throw the football, but I'm saying it is my estimation, looking at what the Eagles do and watching them the entire season. They run the ball better than they throw it.

[Former NFL Player]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If I'm spags, I am going to make them throw it in this game better than they run it. Because we've seen them come playoff time and for the most of the regular season, them run people. Yes. Off the field.

[Former NFL Player]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Bobby Bones]

Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Cass. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirrorball trophy from Dancing with the Star. So where else you gonna find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? Based in Nashville, we're more than just your basic NFL show. We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything because we got lots to say. I texted you and you texted me back. Now, I don't know if you have the update, but like all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff, like it's all colored. They changed it and the heart's a little pink. It felt like I told you I loved you. I'm going to be honest, it was a little pink.

[Nate Thompson]

There was something sentimental when you, when.

[Jaden Daniels]

You send it, it's like, do I send the heart?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now?

[Bobby Bones]

I don't like the color edition.

[Michael Pittman Jr.]

It's extremely pink.

[Bobby Bones]

Listen to Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[T-Mobile Representative]

What's going on, everybody? This is Justin Pennik from John Boy Media, the host of the Football Today podcast alongside Bobby Skinner and Chris Rose. We're rolling three times a week, on Mondays, on Wednesdays, on Fridays, breaking down everything you need to know about the NFL. We're talking about the MVP race. Is Josh Allen going to pull it out? Lamar Jackson? Can Saquon Barkley even break the rushing record? Can the Steelers keep up their momentum? We talk about everything. We break it down. Stats, analytics. And of course, Chris Rose is bringing his perspective on being a pro in the media world as well. Listen to Football Today on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your Podcasts, and you will be glad you did. Hope you could join us for the postseason run.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Miles Garrett has requested a trade. As a kid dreaming of the NFL, all I was focused on was the ultimate goal of winning a Super Bowl. And these goals fuel me today more than ever. While I love calling this city my home, my desire to win and compete on the biggest stages won't allow me to be complacent. The goal was never to come to Cleveland. To go from Cleveland to Canton, it has always been to compete for and win a Super Bowl. With that in mind, I've requested to be traded from the Cleveland rounds.

[Former NFL Player]

Ocho, I told you that was coming. And I tell you that I told you that a few shows ago. I knew it was coming at some point. In order to compete for a Super bowl, for one defense, you can do all you do. You can do all you can. You can be the greatest defense end of all time. But until you have someone on the other side of that ball that gives you that chance and opportunity to reach a Lombardia, get there. He understands that. He understands that. And right now, his career, I wouldn't say it's going to waste because he's playing very well. He's playing very well. If he was to be. Say, if it was. It was the end of the day. He's still a Hall of Famer. He's still a Hall of Famer, but he understands that in order to contend for a Hall of. In order to contend for Lombardi, a trophy, or even have a chance, you got to be in a position for one. A team that has a quarterback. Yes, you got to. And so he understands that. So I understand him requesting his trade. I knew that was going to happen, especially after the quarterback carousel that he's had to deal with, you know, for how many years now?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, I think Miles came in, what, 2017.

[Former NFL Player]

I mean, ain't no telling how many quarterbacks he's had to deal with. And now, you know, it's come to a head. You know what this is? I don't have that many more years left. I need to go somewhere where I can contend for a Super Bowl. I gave Cleveland all I can to this point, be fair to me, and allow me to achieve a childhood dream of having a chance at a goddamn Super Bowl.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. I think the thing is, Ocho, he's going to command probably. He's going to command two first rounders, probably more, maybe even a player. You see what. What Seattle got for Russell Wilson?

[Former NFL Player]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They got players, two first Rounders, two second rounders and the third, you look at some of the other draft of some other transactions that have happened. Miles Garrett is an apex. He's an alpha. He's an all pro. A guy that's had 14 sacks at least the last four seasons. He had double digit sacks, I think what, six of the last seven seasons. And so we know what he represents, but at some point in time is just not enough. Right. And. And he's eligible for contract extension.

[Former NFL Player]

Oh, yeah, most definitely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Bring it up. Okay. I guess I need to bring it. You guys couldn't hear me, so sorry about that. Minnesota, you heard, you hear the 49ers, potentially the Rams, you hear the Lions, you hear potentially the packers, you hear some of the teams. Because here's the thing, right? If I'm Cleveland, I'm getting him out of the afc.

[Former NFL Player]

Oh, so there's no chance. There's no chance. Wait a minute. Stay with me real quick. We have Trey Henderson, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Former NFL Player]

I don't think there's ability to be able to pay him what he's worth, the value that he can get on the open market. Is there any chance you see Mount Garrett being traded into division, Right, to Cincinnati.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They don't know. Okay, I'm getting them out of the afc.

[Former NFL Player]

Okay. I'm just asking.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn division. I'm getting them out of the afc.

[Former NFL Player]

Okay. Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't want to run the risk of having to see him. He's going to Green Bay. Okay. Detroit, Green Bay, 49ers. Hey, give. Give me your best offer, right? Okay, somebody give me your best offer, right? Because now look, if I'm. If somebody in AFC gives me two, three first rounders, O ain't got no choice.

[Former NFL Player]

Exactly.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I think, you know, Detroit pairing him with Aiden Hutchinson, Remember Ocho?

[Former NFL Player]

That's not fair.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How many points they gave up in the playoff game? We saw this at the. There are some times that they were giving up a bunch of points, but their offense was outscoring. You can't always be reliant on your offense to outscore people. You see the 49ers, they bring back Robert Sala. We know he loves to attack the quarterback. Can you imagine Bosa on one side, Miles Garrett?

[Former NFL Player]

That's not fair.

[Shannon Sharpe]

With Warner in the middle, that's not fair. And so that's going to be very interesting. I think it's going to be a little difficult because they got to pay the quarterback per. Now you hear reports they're trying to structure a deal, something like three years, $120 $40 million a year, right. That's between. They're going to be willing to settle for that. But for me, Miles Garrett, requesting a trade just goes to show you money can't buy you happiness.

[Former NFL Player]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Miles Garrett is one of the highest paid defensive ends.

[Former NFL Player]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You get tired of losing, Losing no.

[Former NFL Player]

Matter how much you're making.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You can tell people that, say, oh, I'll just be happy and complacent and content.

[Former NFL Player]

No, you wouldn't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's easy to say because you don't win.

[Former NFL Player]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When you, when you want to win and you. What the hell you think? Grego. What's up, bro? What's up, bro?

[Former NFL Player]

Greg. What's up, baby? You good? Yeah, I'm here. I'm here. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You still. What you training for?

[Nate Thompson]

I'm not training for nothing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I.

[Nate Thompson]

We used to work out together in Miami.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, did you?

[Former NFL Player]

Yeah, years ago.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Bomberito.

[Nate Thompson]

Long time ago.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Which one? We're joined by Greg Olsen, one of the great play by play guys. Actually, your color. You're not play by play. Your color. One of the great color guys. Young, up and coming. When you. Let me ask you this. Forget football. What's been the biggest thing from you to do? How. How were you able to become so good so quick at doing this job? Greg?

[Nate Thompson]

You know, it's funny when people ask me about it, you know, there's actually a lot of lessons that I learned, you know, from playing, right? Just routine preparation. Every Monday is a Monday, every Tuesday is a Tuesday, and leaning into a lot of those things throughout the of the week. As a player, I didn't know any different, right. So when they said, all right, we got a game next Sunday and you're going to call it, I just fell back to what I knew, which is study the game. I love watching football, I love asking questions. And you have to be very willing to be like, you know what? I don't know a lot about this. I'm going to find people who really know it and I'm going to pick their brain. I'm going to talk to great coaches, I'm going to talk to front office guys, I'm going to talk to, you know, defensive coordinators. How do you put together your blitz package, learn as many different aspects of the game, organize it in your mind, organize your thoughts, and then just lay out the game. Stay with the game, follow it, and try to do it in a way that is interesting, it's insightful and try to add value. And I'm still learning. I don't Pretend to know it all. But I just love learning the craft of calling the games. And it's been a great transition for me since I'm done playing.

[Former NFL Player]

Listen, I've watched you transition, obviously from playing the game to doing play by play or color commentary. Like coaches. Coaches said obviously your discipline and your worth ethic. Worth ethic has allowed you to do so. Now I'm thinking about someone in my position who has never done anything of that magnitude. Is it possible in any way that I could probably learn. If I can minimize my cursing a little bit, I can learn to do color commentary. Or is that something you guys should stay away from?

[Nate Thompson]

No, I think anybody can learn it. Right. So the inherent, you know, the underlying foundation of all of it is guys who love football, guys who want to continue to learn it, guys who want to continue to stay up with the trends and follow it and dive into it. Anybody can do it. Right. Then it's just communicating it in a little bit of a different setting.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right. Simplicity.

[Nate Thompson]

And that was probably the biggest transition for me. I'm a talker. I love conversation. I could sit here with you two for three hours and we could talk about whatever, but that's not the broadcast. We have commercial breaks, we have referees, we have game breaks. And you get 15 seconds. That was probably the biggest thing, is just the tempo and kind of the rhythm of the broadcast. Everyone has a lot to say. Can you say a little bit, make an impact, but also not overdo it? I think that's still the balance that I'm still trying to find.

[Former NFL Player]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think the biggest thing for me is what I've noticed is you're talking about it as it's happening versus talking about something that's already happened or something that you perceive to happen. So like pregame, post game is entirely different than doing color because you're talking as it's happening.

[Nate Thompson]

Yeah. And I think the, the, the battle, at least the way I try to do it is I try not to tell you what you're seeing.

[Former NFL Player]

Right.

[Nate Thompson]

Because you already see it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Nate Thompson]

Like, I don't want to narrate the replay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. Okay.

[Nate Thompson]

I don't want to just talk over what you're already seeing. I think to most fan. I think fans nowadays are very educated. People are listening. They're listening to shows or listening to weekly and weekend stuff. Tell them why they're seeing it. Maybe take their eyes away from the ball. What led to this play being really successful? What led to this read or this wide receiver route? Like, was it. It was a Pick. But did the receiver not get flat enough on his inside brick?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right. Right.

[Nate Thompson]

Take people into the. Why the thought process. That's the part I enjoy the most. Everyone can see it was a nice catch.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Nate Thompson]

Everyone can see it was a sack.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why?

[Nate Thompson]

Tell us why and what the counter is going forward. That's the game that I think is the fun part to lay out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

There've been a lot of conversations. You had a great, you did a great thing. I mean, your first, first couple years in, you're calling the super bowl and you in the super bowl and you called it exquisite. Excellent game. Chiefs 49ers. Tom comes in. Obviously Tom the number one. But knowing you, the way I know you and the competitor and you want to be back in that number. You want to call Super Bowl. You want to call NFC AFC Championship game.

[Nate Thompson]

Yeah. And, and again, I, I the your first question where I said so many of the lessons that I pull that I put into the broadcast center, things that were from my playing days, it was no different than as a player. You weren't just content to be on the roster to be the starter.

[Former NFL Player]

Oh, yeah.

[Nate Thompson]

You weren't just content to be a starter. You wanted to be a Pro Bowler. You want. There was always something else. And that's the same thing now to take into broadcast. And again, I'm always clear. Like, me and Tom have a really good relationship. We've gotten to know each other. There's no personal animosity. He's not my enemy. And I said this, him being good doesn't not make me good, and him being bad doesn't make me better. Like it's not connected. Like, I want to inherently just be good at it. I want to call top games. I want to chase the biggest games, the biggest audiences and bring out the biggest moments of the game. I want to be the voice of that. That doesn't mean I don't like him. I don't hate him. I thought my relationship with Fox is great. My relationship with Tom and Kevin and Aaron Andrews is great. But I want to call, I want to get back to that seat that I was in. And that's not a personal thing. That's just the way it works.

[Former NFL Player]

Right. Matter of fact, speaking of seats.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Appreciate you.

[Former NFL Player]

I don't know who I need to talk to, but I'm sure the powers might be that see this. I want to do color commentary and play by play this year.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, there you go. Okay.

[Former NFL Player]

I'm putting it out there.

[Nate Thompson]

Greg, appreciate you calling me out, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This is fun.

[Former NFL Player]

Good to See you, baby. Good to see you, boss. Yes, sir. Thank you. Jason, man, I got you. All right, color commentary coming up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. No, no, no.

[Former NFL Player]

Why?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because it's too. It's ad lib. It's right there in the moment. You got to call, as you see it like that. It's already happened. What's up, bro? Hey, what's up?

[Former NFL Player]

What they do? What you good?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Joining us now, nightcap, Michael Pittman Jr. Sir.

[Michael Pittman Jr.]

Sorry I'm crumbling around here. Here we go, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How you doing?

[Former NFL Player]

Good, good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Appreciate you. Congratulations on a great season individually, not the season that you wanted to have. Team wise, what do you guys need to do in order to have success where you're in the playoffs and you're contending for a championship?

[Michael Pittman Jr.]

Yeah, I mean, that's a really, really tough question.

[Former NFL Player]

But wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Be honest. Don't be politically correct. Not here.

[Michael Pittman Jr.]

Okay. Okay.

[Former NFL Player]

Be straight up, like we in the barbershop now.

[Michael Pittman Jr.]

Yeah. All right. So we have tough conversations as, you know, like, just, like, as men.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Michael Pittman Jr.]

And. And we need to call guys up, right? Like, just, like, not, like, calling them out. I just, like, call them up to. To, like, our stand.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We expect more. Yeah. And.

[Michael Pittman Jr.]

And that starts with everybody. Like, that starts with me. That starts with every single person. And we just got to find ways to close that gap because there's so many games that, like, you were close, you know, like, just, like, we were so close, and we just let it slip.

[Former NFL Player]

Now, I got a question. Now, you speak about that gap, right? And. And obviously, everyone's goal at the beginning of the season is you want to compete to be in San Francisco this. This year, coming up next year? Obviously.

[Michael Pittman Jr.]

Yeah.

[Former NFL Player]

What gaps do you think need to be filled in from an acquisition standpoint, offensively or defensively that can help you guys get to that end goal?

[Michael Pittman Jr.]

Honestly, I think that we have a lot of our core guys.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Michael Pittman Jr.]

And, like, before I can focus on anybody else, like, I got to focus on everything that I got to do. Like, I didn't have my best season. I mean, now there are some things that happen, but just. Just, like, focusing, like, all myself, like, I have to do things to produce in any type of situation, injury, like, just, like, you know, like, just, like, guys are, like, out there hurt, too, so.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right, right.

[Michael Pittman Jr.]

So, you know.

[Former NFL Player]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

There was a lot made of the situation. I think it was a Texans game. Your quarterback scrambled. He ended up taking himself out of the game. I guess there was a team meeting. There were conversations that were had. The coach ended up benching him for a couple of a game, not a week. He got benched. One game. A couple of games. And then I think Flacco filled in or whomever came in for him. What was those conversations like? Because I'm telling you as a player that been in the locker room have been a leader. That's frowned upon when we feel a guy left us out there to try. Because the one thing is, it's kind of like we doc is nothing compared to the military. So military folks, don't get me wrong, but it's like we leave no man behind is that we're out here together, we're going to fight together, we're going to win together, we're going to lose together. But the one thing we're not going to do is leave the other guys behind. What was that conversation that you had to have with your quarterback? Because I believe he's going to be there for an extended period of time. Michael Pittman Jr. And you know you guys are going to need him.

[Michael Pittman Jr.]

Yeah, we had a. So we actually had all of our team, so all of our team leaders from every single position group and we kind of had an hour long meeting and we talked about everything. Like it wasn't just centered around that. Like it was everybody. But I think that was a good learning experience for him to know that that is not the standard and that he can't do that and stuff like that. So it's all just learning. And I think that he handled that period of time well because everybody was like crashing on him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Michael Pittman Jr.]

So we saw him show up earlier, we saw him put in more work and like kind of do the things necessary to kind of earn everybody's trust back.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I like that. I like that. Did you notice the difference from that time before that to the time that happened to after that? Did you notice a noticeable improvement in him?

[Michael Pittman Jr.]

Absolutely. Like from like just like after that benching. I felt like he came out and he really was playing a lot better.

[Former NFL Player]

You know, I got a question. People at home, people that are watching, we always get to see the finished product.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Former NFL Player]

The finished product of a player and what they do. You get to see them on Sundays. What do you think you need to work on as far as your game is concerned and how you can better being a better receiver because I know you're not where you want to be.

[Michael Pittman Jr.]

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. I think that my next step is being able to recognize coverage at a level that a quarterback can. Right. Because like, I mean like I can see coverage but. But like I See like half of the field.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Michael Pittman Jr.]

And, and, and I'm not as good as like, like just like a Patrick Mahomes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Michael Pittman Jr.]

Obviously. Because like he can read the entire field right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Quickly.

[Michael Pittman Jr.]

So just getting like to that point.

[Former NFL Player]

Yeah, right. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Any.

[Former NFL Player]

Anytime before you go anytime, if you get to that point, the game slows down tremendously.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Former NFL Player]

No matter how many bluffs, no matter how many disguises they do, you already know what's coming based off tendencies and down and distance. But that point, boy, you, you gonna love it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Let me ask you a question. When you go outside and you line up, are you looking across the field at the other side to see what's going on over there?

[Michael Pittman Jr.]

No. So, so. Well, I mean I'm really focused on corner nickel safety.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Michael Pittman Jr.]

Right, right. And, and then like if it's corner backer safety, like if it's nickel, dime or right, or like if that backers like are like mugged up, like it's going to be pressure. But I rarely do I ever get to scan the whole field because like I'm thinking about, hey, like I'm gonna give him like smooth right here and if he brings his hands up, like I'm gonna do this. If that doesn't work, then I gotta do that.

[Former NFL Player]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So, you know, let me ask you a question. Like we broke it down, okay. Down in distance area of the field for who they have on the field and it would dictate kind of the coverage. Now they might switch it up, but down in distance where we on the field, we know 85% of the time they like to run this down in distance area of the field where we are. We backed up, we at midfield, we in plus territory, we're in the red zone. So that gave me a of an insight and I was different because I learned as a tight end because I'm looking at, for, I'm looking at fronts. They're gonna play certain fronts. They're gonna play certain coverages behind certain fronts.

[Former NFL Player]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now you're not really looking at that. So now if I could just, if you like take a look back like. Okay, they got four down linemen. Okay. Blah, blah, blah. They got four. They playing nickel, four, two, five. Okay. They playing, they playing dime. They're playing four, one, six.

[Former NFL Player]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It'll give you a tip, it'll give you a hands up of what the. Potentially not always. Don't go chasing ghosts, but you'll have just that extra step and you know, sometime a half an inch is all it takes between you being open.

[Former NFL Player]

Oh, yeah, that's all it is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Michael Pittman Jr.]

Oh, yeah.

[Former NFL Player]

Most definitely.

[Michael Pittman Jr.]

Thank you for that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. So what you're doing down for super bowl, what are you promoting?

[Michael Pittman Jr.]

Yeah, so I'm here with Toyota. I've actually been working with them for a whole year now. So we're down here supporting the future generation of athletes. And then they also have something for fans here at the Super Bowl Experience where they can go sit in cars with Team Toyota athletes. So, like, just like, it's a really cool deal.

[Former NFL Player]

That's dope, right? That's dope.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, Michael, appreciate you. Tell your dad I say hello.

[Michael Pittman Jr.]

Absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Thank you, guys. Glad you're doing well, man. Congratulations. Continued success.

[Former NFL Player]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And good luck next year, man. Hey, better when the Colts are in the playoffs.

[Michael Pittman Jr.]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Thank you. Thank you. Michael Pittman Jr. Joined us on behalf of Toyota. It is great, great to see these young fellas come out, do their thing, get very excited to see the NFL is in great hands. Ocho.

[Former NFL Player]

Oh, yeah, most definitely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, people definitely. Oh, just. No, no, no, no, no. Guys are going to come and guys are going to go eventually. We saw Peyton leave, we saw Brady leave, see Drew Brees leave. And then you see Mahomes and you see Burroughs and you see LA Jackson, you see the Josh Allens and the running backs leave, and you get Derrick Henry and you get Saquon. You get all these up. It's a young man wide receiver.

[Former NFL Player]

It's a young man's game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. And so the NFL is. The NFL is in great hands with these. These young and up and coming superstar players that are. And it's very, very, very exciting to see. But back to Miles Garrett. Ocho, I just think that's a situation where he doesn't really have a choice. He can sit there and they can pay him a ton of money, but what good is a ton of money, bro? I'm trying to.

[Former NFL Player]

He's already made a ton of money.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Former NFL Player]

Money's not the fact at this point, I really want to win. He truly wants to win. Because you think about. This isn't even his character.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Former NFL Player]

He's not the type to ask. He barely even talk, so, you know, he's fed up. He understands my window of opportunity is very short.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Former NFL Player]

I would love to compete or at least try, at least be in contention.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, that's all you can hope for.

[Former NFL Player]

That's all you can hope for. So I'm sure, listen, the Cleveland Browns organization. Myles Garrett has done right by you for a very long time. He's giving you all he has. The fans should be able to understand that and allow him and grace him the opportunity to seek that trade and give him a chance to win the title.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because it gets tough at mid season, you know, you're not going to the playoffs. So guess what? I got it down here. It's cold. Cleveland is cold. We practiced outside and I ain't got. All I'm doing is trying to finish out the season strong. The only thing I got to look forward to, Ocho, is the Pro bowl, potentially making All Pro. Yeah, maybe. What individual awards? Well, he's already. He's been to the Pro Bowl. He's been on the first team All Pro. He's been defensive player of the year.

[Former NFL Player]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. So there has to be a next step. There has to be a maturation process where I'm competing for a championship.

[Former NFL Player]

That's the only thing left.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I see it.

[Former NFL Player]

That's the only thing left for him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's it. And sometimes people don't understand that. I believe two things can be true. I believe you can make a ton of money and chase the championship.

[Former NFL Player]

Yeah.

[Jalen Milroe]

You can.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You can cause somebody. Oh, I just want to get the back. Nah, nah, nah, bro. I'm telling you, when you make money and you invest that kind of time because you're away from your family, you lifting those weights, what you eat, how you dedicate yourself, and then you out there, man, it's cold, it's 10 degrees outside, man.

[Former NFL Player]

It's one thing to put in all the work on all those years to put in all the work. The money's good. The money's always a good thing. To put in the kind of work Myles Garrett has done to date to this point and then not have the chance to reach the pinnacle of your childhood dream. You know, there's steps. There's a process, too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Absolutely.

[Former NFL Player]

Getting to the league. Okay, cool. Achieving the accolades. Okay. I've done that. Defensive player of the year. Okay. I've been to Pro Bowls. I've been All Pros. What's next? Yeah, it's only one thing that's next.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. First pick. I mean, think about first pick in the draft, defensive player.

[Former NFL Player]

He lived up to everything.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Former NFL Player]

He lived up to all of that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. Now he wants to be one of those guys to get to and contend. Not necessarily. It's like, I think he can. Obviously, the ultimate goal is to reach that. Reach the promised land. Be here playing in New Orleans or next year, be playing in San Francisco. But at least give me that opportunity. I need that opportunity. And if it doesn't happen, bro. I gave it 13, 14, 15, however long he's going to play. I gave it everything I possibly could to achieve that. But he knows for the foreseeable future that is not possible in Cleveland.

[Former NFL Player]

No. And you know what? The fans, hopefully the fans understand that. I know how they are. When players ask for a trade, they get upset, they get mad because their loyalty is to the team. But understanding what Myles Garrett has done for that team through the entirety of his career when they were losing, always showing up. I would hope they understand and I hope management and the people upstairs also understand that you can continue to build and this is. And then trade him with some value and continue to build for the foreseeable future.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, they need, look, they need a quarterback. They need more pieces. And I think the pieces that you can get for a Miles gag. Yeah, you'd love to be in a situation to keep Miles, but Miles made it. Miles has made it abundantly clear he wants to move on. He wants an opportunity to compete. And I don't believe there. None of these guys is coming in the draft is Jaden Daniels.

[Jaden Daniels]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Or has that kind of ability. And I don't think the team is that close. And I said this before, I think Cleveland is farther away than what Washington was. Right. And so with that being said, go ahead, packaging. Get two first rounders and get a second round, the third rounder, maybe a potential player back and start the building process. They're going to take a quarterback. They're going to take a quarterback, Cleveland, who? I don't know which quarterback, but they're going to take one.

[Former NFL Player]

There's only, there's only two available.

[Shannon Sharpe]

First of all, desean's not going to be available. Right.

[Former NFL Player]

Because he's missing this entirety entire season.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He tore the. He tore the Achilles and he retort.

[Former NFL Player]

So who we talking about? Cam Ward. Chador.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's going to be the value. That's going to be a very, very interesting valuation process. They, they, they different skill set. Cam is more athletic. I think Shador is more accurate. You look at it, both played against top competition. Shador, coached by his father, has been a quarterback his entire life. I think Cam Ward has been a quarterback his entire life. It's just going to come back down to, okay, which guy do we feel fits our system? Fits our system. And, and we can turn the keys over to him. I think both guys because at the end of the day, when I'm taking a player that high ocho, I want to be able to sit my phone Down. And if I put it on silent, you ain't got to worry about.

[Former NFL Player]

I ain't got to worry about nothing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I ain't got to worry about getting a call. Hey, you know, I'm sorry, Coach Stefanski, we got a problem. I don't believe either guy will have to worry about receiving that call.

[Former NFL Player]

Absolutely not.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And so that's going to be. This is when GMs make their money.

[Former NFL Player]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, if I'm in a spot because you're picking high and you got to choose. I mean, hey, if I'm in the 20th spot and the guy falls to me, he lands in my lap, right? I mean, Brett beach trading up to take Patrick Mahomes and trading. Trading up to take Xavier Word, that's when you earn it. I mean, if I just stand pat and I'll just take. Okay, I'm in the 16 slot. Okay. I take that guy and that guy turns out to be great. He don't really do nothing. Yeah, but when you gotta make a decision, you. You did high knowing, right, that you. You take a quarterback right now, Ocho, you don't want to take another quarterback for another 10, 15 years.

[Former NFL Player]

Yeah, but that's the hard part. Finding that quarterback where you don't have to take one for another 15 years. Whatever Harry Roseman and Lurie are doing over there with the Eagles. Listen, the NFL has always been a copycat league, especially when it comes to watching film and things that you see work on other teams with opponents coming up that you're playing. Yes, well, the GMs need to do the same thing, right? Whatever the Hunts are doing, whatever Lurie and Howie Roseman doing, they need to copycat. The other GMs need to copycat what they see the Eagles do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But Howie had to know something. They had just gave Carson Wentz a ton of money. Oh, yeah, and you take a quarterback in the second round, don't you?

[Former NFL Player]

Yeah, but he got the injury, remember?

[Shannon Sharpe]

But.

[Former NFL Player]

No, but you need a security blanket.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But he had already come out that injury. Oh, and I gave him a boatload of money. Ocho, normally we don't see that. Imagine you pay a defensive lineman that kind of money and then you turn around and then like, boom. I don't think the Eagles taking another D lineman. You got Jay Lecardi, you got Jordan Davis, you got Williams. I don't think them taking. Unless, like I said, he knew something.

[Former NFL Player]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And then guess what?

[Former NFL Player]

Boom.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know what I mean? You hear now you hear all these rumblings that how he was as A teammate. You see how he was not willing to take the coaching. See, they see things and they know things that the general population not privy to.

[Nate Thompson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And so now it's not a surprise given what we know about said situation. Right? It's almost like the Luca Luca people. And people. This is what gets me about.

[Former NFL Player]

I still don't get it, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't care if he £300. See, people love spending other people's money. You would care if it was your 350 million. Now, a restaurant give you bad service, you won't go back. That's 24. That 40, 50 for the meal.

[Former NFL Player]

But. But also when you look at it, I look at it from a fan's perspective. You look at the output in which he produces when he's on the court. Yes, yes, it outweighs and the value is there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Does it outweigh 350 million? That's what they're looking at. They're like, yeah, yeah, I get it. But he ain't gonna always be 24. He's not gonna always be 25. So what happens when he gets 27? 27, 28. And if he has some of those, what's being reported? All of these are reports. You and I are not there. We can just base on what they. But in order for them. And like I said, they keep people killing Nico Harrison. But when you make a move this big, right, it goes up higher than Nico.

[Former NFL Player]

Yeah, most definitely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Bobby Bones]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

There was something sentimental when you.

[Nate Thompson]

When you send it.

[Michael Pittman Jr.]

It was like, do I send the heart now?

[Bobby Bones]

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[Michael Pittman Jr.]

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[Bobby Bones]

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[Julie Stewart-Banks]

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[Nate Thompson]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Julie Stewart-Banks]

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[Nate Thompson]

We'll have plenty of folks join us. Current players, some of my former teammates.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hall of Famers, and wait till you see some of the connections that Julie has. She has quite the Rolodex.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm vibing, Julie.

[Nate Thompson]

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[Julie Stewart-Banks]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, it's just like anything, when you make a trade for Peyton Manning or you make a trade for Tom Brady, you go get the owner's blessing.

[Former NFL Player]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And if the owner says no, you.

[Former NFL Player]

Ain'T got no choice.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Just the same thing. Coach Saban, when he talked about on the Pivot podcast with Ryan Clark, they wanted to sign Drew Brees, but he had an injury.

[Former NFL Player]

Mattie man said, nah, nah, that shoulder. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And so Nico is taking the brunt of it. And that's what you have to do Sometimes, Ocho. You gotta be the face of bad decision, of what seems to be a bad decision. But. And not everybody's saying, well, what happens when they don't wanna pay that supermax contract? Well, we're going to find out.

[Former NFL Player]

Listen, I think things are going to work out because if there are issues internally, especially with Luka, as far as working out weight, he's at the right place.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He would go.

[Former NFL Player]

He would. He at the right place.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let's see now, if Houston. Excuse me, it's not Houston. If OKC don't give Shay Gilgis that Max contract, then I'm going to say, okay, the owners are trying to save money. The owners don't want to spend these Max. Don't want to pay these Mac contracts.

[Former NFL Player]

Whoa, whoa, whoa. They can't. They can't play with Shay like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why not?

[Former NFL Player]

You can't because he's the complete opposite. Shay has that same DNA as Kobe. Shay has that same DNA as Michael Jordan. Ain't no issues off the court. He works.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He worked.

[Former NFL Player]

Boy, don't do that. Don't do that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He had no issues where off the court. Oh, okay, okay.

[Former NFL Player]

Oh, he gonna get that Max.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But see, that's what I'm saying. We're gonna see the young guys that have been at a team for five plus years, six years, and now they're eligible for that supermax. It had been interesting to see if Nikola Jokic is able. Now if the Nuggets say, nah, we ain't about to pay Nicola No350 million dollars, man. Please see, please.

[Former NFL Player]

Now, when I think about Jokic and I think about Luka, what's the difference? What's the difference? Same style of play, same methodical movement. Efficient when they born, no weaknesses. Liability on defense a little bit.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you know, yo yoke. But here's the thing.

[Former NFL Player]

Now, like Mr. Now what's the difference?

[Shannon Sharpe]

This is. Jokic says I was fat. I realized I was drinking too much soda. I was drinking too much soda. I cut the sodas out, I dropped 20 pounds. And boom, boom, boom is three of the last four years he's been the MVP. The net Learg, he didn't win it. He was second, right? He's won the final. He'd been to the finals. He's won finals, mvp. I think a lot of that goes because I think the thing is Ocho, like, when you look at what a young guy that has issue. I don't want him to become an old guy with issues. And I definitely don't want to become an old guy with issue when I got to pay him $70 million a year.

[Former NFL Player]

I got you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The cashier at McDonald's has a different responsibility than the manager. See, the guy that got the keys to open up the restaurant, he can't be late. The coach could be late. Cause we got somebody else that could get on the.

[Former NFL Player]

Get on the grill.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Get on the grill.

[Jaden Daniels]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The guy that got. Got the keys to the store. He can't be late. Right. Cut him and Muffin need to be coming out there at 5:30.

[Former NFL Player]

Yes, sir. Because I'm. I'mma be in line.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We had Michael Pittman Jr. He talked about the situation with Anthony Richardson that the every. The leaders in every group, running backs, quarterback, obviously, quarterbacks, wide receivers, D line. And they had a conversation. Yeah, everybody. Oh, he. Bro, you can't do Ocho. You and I. I think the thing is sometimes Ocho, because when you play a sport, you see things differently. And things that fans or casual fans was like, blah, blah, blah. That doesn't work in a locker room guy at all. It's a different mentality in a locker room. It's a different mentality than a normal workplace. And so, and, and I thought he did a great job of explaining it and, and saying, look, look, we let him know he said it. You know, he started being, you know, first one in, last one to leave. How could a quarterback not be the first one in and the last one to leave? Ocho.

[Former NFL Player]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

With all the responsibility that's on his plate.

[Former NFL Player]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, okay, if you want to be a long snapper, hey, you come in like five minutes before you leave soon. Hey, as soon as practice, them guys ain't got no meetings. Right?

[Former NFL Player]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, all the position. With a special team, they ain't got no meaning. The kid could have pun. What you mean for they gonna snap you the ball you gonna punt it, right? Hey, we gonna kick the ball. Okay. Stuff like that. But most of the time, kickers, punters, snappers, they don't have special teams.

[Former NFL Player]

They on their own program, they do their own thing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. But for me, I. I just didn't understood it and I'm glad they had the conversation with him.

[Former NFL Player]

He gonna be all right, though? Yeah, he gonna be all right. Sometimes too much, too much talent.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Sometimes. Sometimes, Ocho, you need a wake up call like this because he was so talented. I'm not so sure they ever had these tough conversations with him at Florida. Right. And sometimes guys try to come in with tough conversations when you don't have these tough conversations. He's always been supremely talented. High school, college. And so they're not gonna have these kinds of conversations. But in the NFL. Oh, when they paying you that kind of money?

[Former NFL Player]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Have those conversations. Absolutely and rightfully so. Andy Reid says he'll coach at least. At least one more season.

[Former NFL Player]

At least one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what he said.

[Former NFL Player]

I'm not buying that. I'm not buying that. I don't think Patrick Mahomes is buying that. I think what Andy Reed has the ability to do as a head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs and do something that's never been done before and they could probably run the gauntlet for another two or three years. They can run the gauntlet for another two or three years. Even if Travis Kelsey decides to retire. They are so good. Or Patrick Mahomes is so good. You can plug and play. Travis Kelchita leaves, Tyreek Hill leaves plug and play. Super Bowl. Not just one, two of them. Travis Kelce leaves. You plug and play. You find someone else. You got Noah Gray. He takes over. He takes over.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, I go make a trade for my Kyle Pips.

[Former NFL Player]

Oh, that's not fair.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I go make a trade for Kyle Pips.

[Former NFL Player]

That's not fair. That's unfair.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Again, that's what I'm going to do.

[Former NFL Player]

That's why I just said you plug and play. You lose one, you bring someone else in. Now, he's a little different than Travis Kelly. Different styles of play. He can get it done. I'm not sure how they would use him based on him being as athletic as he is. He's a little different than Travis Kelsey, you know, but man, listen, as long as you got that 15 over there, man, the Kansas City Chiefs are basically the Tom Brady and Belichick of this era.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who's the coaching waiting? Is he on staff? Is it Spags? Is it Nagy, is it? Do they go outside?

[Former NFL Player]

You can't go outside because you want to keep the continuity. You want to keep the continuity. You want to keep the same offer, you want to keep the same mindset, you want to keep the same culture. So how do you do that? It has to be somebody that's already under Andy Reid that can come in and take over. If anything, it would be spags. It makes sense.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It.

[Former NFL Player]

It only makes sense. Or bring somebody. Have Eric B. Come back. Maybe not as the head coach, but as the play caller, because he already knows the offense.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right. That'd be very, very. That'll be very, very, very, very interesting to see that. I'm surprised that he said that. He's only looking at one more year, it seems like, but you don't look the coaches, the responsibility that's on their plate and the hours that they put in a lot. And Andy's getting. Andy's been doing this for a while. Yeah. What? 99 was his first year as a head coach. So Andy's been coaching. He was with the 49. He was with the 49ers. He was on coach Walsh staff. Then Mike brought him with him to Green Bay. So Andy's been coaching damn near 40 years because my brother. He was in Green Bay with my brother. My brother and Mike. Mike Holmgren got there in 92, and he came with Mike from the 49ers.

[Former NFL Player]

So I don't see it happen because I'm going to put myself in Andy Reid's shoes and understanding, not as a team, but the individual accolades, the individual achievements that I can achieve. There are some records that are right there within reach. There's some records that are right there within reach for Andy Reid. I don't think he steps away from the game until he surpasses those records.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ooh, that's gonna take him a while to Ocho. Coach. Coach Shula. Coach Shula is 328 wins.

[Former NFL Player]

Fake.

[Shannon Sharpe]

328.

[Former NFL Player]

Where's Andy Reid right now?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Andy Reid is at 273 regular season wins. Right. He's at 3. 01, if I'm not mistaken. Playoff wins, total wins. 347 is the record Coach shooting.

[Former NFL Player]

He can. You know, he can get that right. 10 wins a season. It's definitely possible.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Former NFL Player]

10 with 10 wins a season.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let's just say for the sake of argument, for another six seasons.

[Former NFL Player]

Yeah. Yes, it's possible. You got. You got that 15, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah.

[Former NFL Player]

I know he's special.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The question is, it's not whether or not it's possible. Do I want to put that kind of time in? Because that's what it is. That's what it is.

[Former NFL Player]

You know what? At this point, that car could run itself. When you have a special player like that. When Peyton Mannings with the Colts who ran everything.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Peyton.

[Former NFL Player]

The car can run itself. Patrick Mahomes has got to the point where he's as good as he is. It can run itself.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Good, good.

[Former NFL Player]

It can run itself. What's up?

[Jaden Daniels]

You good?

[Former NFL Player]

Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right, guys, joining us on the set right now. Nightcap. Okay. Day cap. Have Jalen Milroe, former quarterback of the Alabama Crimson Tide, who decided to give up his final year of eligibility to go into the NFL draft. Jalen, thanks for joining us. So what are you. What are you repping in? You're just here for the Super Bowl? What's going on?

[Nate Thompson]

What are you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What are you. What are you selling?

[Jalen Milroe]

Yeah, so I'm repping Autotrader.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Jalen Milroe]

They made this event possible for me, so I'm coming from Orange County, California. Long day of travel. That's a great opportunity to be here. Definitely inspired, you know, to understand where I.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why I'm here.

[Jalen Milroe]

Super bowl, you know, I'm inspired to achieve my next dream, which is during the draft process right now. So, you know, I'm representing Autotrader today.

[Former NFL Player]

I got a question.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This is not where you really want to be. You want to be preparing for the game. Yeah. This is the first time. So hopefully in the future, we don't see you back here again. Not at this.

[Jalen Milroe]

Yeah, no.

[Michael Pittman Jr.]

No doubt.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No doubt.

[Jalen Milroe]

Yeah.

[Former NFL Player]

Thinking about it, how has the process been? Getting ready for the draft?

[Jalen Milroe]

Yeah. So the best thing right now, I'm able to pour into myself right now and invest in myself. One thing that's unique about the office is no shot clock. So you have time to develop, time to pour into things that you need to improve on. So I'm around a lot of great people where I'm at. I'm in Orange county with Jordan Palmer and Mike White.

[Former NFL Player]

Jordan.

[Jalen Milroe]

Yeah.

[Former NFL Player]

That's my backyard, man.

[Jalen Milroe]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Jalen Milroe]

So I'm with them right now. So it's been fun to build each and every day and find beauty in the process.

[Former NFL Player]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So what does Jaylen Melro need to work on in order for him to get to the level of quarterback that he wants to be and know that he can be? Because obviously, there's some things that you need to work on. There's no finished products coming into the draft. There's no finished products once you enter the draft. But what is the most important thing you feel you need to work on?

[Jalen Milroe]

Putting my body in the best way fashion as far as efficiency to get to make every throw on the football field. Okay, that's number one. Number two, the exposure to the NFL. Although I lack experience, it's come from watching tape, it comes from being in that system. And so during this process I've been able to do that. Going to the Reese bowl, we're going and working with Jordan Palmer. Being able to reflect on tape and acknowledge where the area of weakness is to strength and why you're able to do that is by playing. So for me, the transformation from 2023 to 2024, being a first year starter, then my final season in college and so it was just an exposure piece number one. But also just having this offseason to really narrow down how can I put myself in the best way efficiently to make every throw on field because that's what's going to be needed when it comes to performing on Sundays, but also playing on time, playing on upright and doing things the best way fashion so we can lead our offense to win.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What do you think is the biggest transition from high school to college, college to the pro? Although you haven't played in the pro yet, but I'm here, you said you're working with Jordan Palmer and I'm sure those guys are telling you what you need to do the biggest. What do you think the biggest transition is going to be for you? You.

[Jalen Milroe]

So it all starts with preparation. You know, preparation is so key. Taking care of your body is number one. And making sure that you're getting the amount of sleep that you need. You know, nutrition wise, what you need to be feeling your body, all those things number, number, number three after that is how are you pulling guys along. Of course you can talk X's and O's, stuff like that. But do I have a relationship with my receiver? Do I have a relationship with my tight end? Do I know how Osho run his route? I know how you run your route. Just knowing each guy runs their route differently on the football field and having that relationship with them is so important. And then when it talks to going to the NFL, it's all about how do you process the game. Everybody processes the game differently. But how often are you getting with your offensive coordinator, head coach and something that I try to do is see football in the lens of the play caller at the quarterback position so that we're moving the right way fashion because coach is calling this Play on third down because he saw this in preparation. It's just little things like that when it comes to being the best quarterback I can be. And so it all starts with preparation. You know, preparation builds confidence. You know, when you get we touch the field on Sunday, it's time to roll, you know, time to think, it's time to roll. It's time to trying to fall back to your level of training. And so the times where you make your mistakes in the preparation phase is going to help you out when it comes to Sundays. And so like I mentioned, you know, what's unique about the offseason? No shot clock. So during that time frame, it's all about building.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I like it. The thing that I've heard most about you is inconsistent. They said, look, the guy can make every throw on the field. He has a big time arm. We know the kind of legs that he has. There haven't been very many quarterbacks to rush for 20 touchdowns in the season, pass for 20 touchdowns in the season, in the SEC history. And we know what that conference represent. But when you hear that inconsistent, inconsistent, how does Jalen get better at those inconsistencies?

[Jalen Milroe]

The objective is to win, right? So you can go back to the drawing board and, you know, fix whatever needs to be fixed, you know, fall back to what do you need to improve on. But each and every week that you have to play, the objective is to win. And so it's not, you know, worrying about external factors, worrying about what's been said or anything like that. It's all about what your teammates think of you, what's your head coach think of you, your offensive coordinator think of you. Because during the journey, of course you want plays back. You know, some games where my best game in college, I want some plays back. So there's always some time where I could pour into, you know, looking at some things that I can get back better at. Because you know, one thing that's unique about us as athletes, that we have strengths, we have weaknesses. And so something that is also a social norm that we, we overlook what's our strengths and what's to make us all unique. And so of course, you know, I'm not a finished product. You know, some, some areas of growth, I definitely need to make strides too, so I can lead properly when it comes to the NFL. But one thing I'm not gonna lose sight of was most of my shrimps and acknowledging that each week that I had to play the game, the objective is to win no matter what it looks like, no matter If I have the most production or I have the less production, the ob. Win. And the mindset come from these two quarterbacks. That's playing in a Super bowl right now is win, baby, win.

[Former NFL Player]

You know what? When I, when I look at you, I've watched you play extremely talented. Whether it's your legs, whether it's. You put, putting the ball, ball in the air, you. Your ability to make all the throws. One of the things we always gauge quarterbacks off of is being on the left hash and being able to throw a 20 yard comeback on the opposite side of the field. You can do that. You got, you got a rope on you. And watching you play, you have the ability to change the organization, you have the ability to change a franchise similar to what Jaden Daniel did coming in scissor with CJ Stroud and Jordan Lover, obviously done. If you get to the point where we know what your strengths are, forget your strengths, take your weaknesses and make them stronger than what they are now and get everything balanced right, boy, you all were. I've seen it with my own eyes. I don't need to be a scout. I don't need to be a gm. You special and I'm telling you that right here in your face. I ain't never met you, but I ain't never seen you before. But I've seen you play. But I got an eye for the game and I know what you gonna do. Well, you gonna be all right. I'm telling you, you're gonna be all right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm gonna get y'all here. The last question for me, what is the biggest difference between Coach Saban and Coach De Bur?

[Jalen Milroe]

So one thing that's for certain is the standard of excellence that they both present for a program. And distinguishing the two, I think the biggest thing about both of them is just how they run a program. It's just a little different. But it's always go back to how they push each and everybody to be the best version of himself on and off the field. You know, with Coach Saban was a lot of. We achieved so much. You know, I had him for three years. But this past season with Coach Debord, it was our first year having a high GPA that we had in school history as a football team. So we were able to achieve that, right? And there's so many areas of wins, you know, when you can think about being a person. And so I was able to do that with Coach DeBoer and Coach Saban. So for me, it's all about the knowledge base. I learned so much from Coach Saban, Coach DeBoer. One coach being offensive minded, one being defensive minded. So the area of growth, of learning about each side of the ball. So you know, you know it's hard to distinguish the two because they both great at what they do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Thank you for stopping by Autotrader Jaylen Milro. Best of luck in the future and thank you again.

[Jalen Milroe]

No thank you guys.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Appreciate you.

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