Nightcap Hour 1: Jerry Jones TO BLAME for Cowboys EMBARRASSING Loss + Unc CALLS OUT Bengals CHASE BROWN + BLAME Jayden Daniels INJURY on DAN QUINN

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Nightcap Hour 1: Jerry Jones TO BLAME for Cowboys EMBARRASSING Loss + Unc CALLS OUT Bengals CHASE BROWN + BLAME Jayden Daniels INJURY on DAN QUINN

Date: November 4, 2025
Host: Shannon Sharpe
Guest/Co-host: Ocho Cinco

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Episode Overview

This episode of Club Shay Shay’s Nightcap dives deep into Week 9 NFL action, focusing heavily on the Dallas Cowboys’ staggering 27-17 loss to the Arizona Cardinals. Shannon Sharpe and Ocho Cinco dissect the Cowboys’ woes and lay blame squarely on Jerry Jones for organizational shortcomings. The episode also zooms in on drama surrounding the Bengals, Chase Brown’s public comments, and a critical injury to Commanders QB Jayden Daniels—attributing fault to Dan Quinn’s coaching decision. The conversation is peppered with seasoned veteran perspective, locker room wisdom, and the kind of locker room stories only NFL legends can deliver.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Cowboys’ Loss: Blame on Coaching and Jerry Jones’s Leadership

• Game Recap:
  The Cowboys were toppled by the Cardinals, ending Arizona’s losing streak. Jacoby Brissett led the Cardinals with 261 yards and 2 TDs; Marvin Harrison Jr. shined with 7 catches for 96 yards and a touchdown. The Dallas defense was porous, and the offense sputtered aside from a special teams play.
• Analysis of the Loss:
  • The defensive secondary was exposed repeatedly, especially cornerback Deron Bland.
  • Cowbows' O-line struggled, leading to constant pressures on Dak Prescott.
  • The offense managed only ten legitimate points, relying on a blocked punt for another touchdown.
  • Shannon emphasizes the organizational culture under Jerry Jones is fundamentally flawed.
• Notable Quotes:
  • “The Cowboys aren’t good. They’re not. If they don’t blitz... normally the right tackle was terrible tonight.” (Shannon, 09:02)
  • “At the end of the day, you got to hold onto the ball, guys. Javonte, you got to hold onto the…” (Shannon, 10:21)
  • “If a cornerback has 14 tackles, he getting cooked.” (Shannon, 06:27)

2. Cardinals’ Execution and Standout Players

• Marvin Harrison Jr.:
  Praised for precise route-running and consistently outplaying the defense.
  • “Marvin Harrison should have had about 12 catches... The Cowboys should have never got the ball back.” (Shannon, 06:43)
• Trey McBride:
  Tight end highlighted for his advanced route-running and separation techniques.
  • “That’s how you can tell a receiving tight end. A normal tight end would have collided him. He armed over… Now you’re done.” (Shannon, 11:18)

3. Cowboys’ Front Office Strategy and the Jerry Jones Dilemma

• Trade Deadline Mystique:
  Rumors swirl about a last-minute trade by Jerry Jones to shore up the defense. Skepticism remains whether any single addition can fix deep-rooted defectiveness on defense.
• Organizational Critique:
  Shannon and Ocho argue that Jones’s role as GM hinders the franchise, emphasizing the need for true football executives like Howie Roseman (Eagles) or Brett Veach (Chiefs).
  • “I can name 500 people that can do a better job than what you do.” (Shannon, 36:49)
  • “Frog not praise his own pond? Name a time, a coach or a T... Don’t praise his players.” (Shannon, 35:47)

4. Bengals Locker Room Tension: Chase Brown’s Comments

• Chase Brown Called Out:
  Brown’s public criticism of teammates draws rebuke from head coach Zach Taylor and scrutiny from Shannon and Ocho. They stress the importance of keeping frustration and critique in-house.
  • “This is why you keep your mouth shut... Everybody starts watching every move you make.” (Shannon, 44:12)
  • “All of us make mistakes... but until the coach brings it up to you with that magnifying glass, Wait a minute. Ain’t this you?” (Ocho, 38:34)
• Locker Room Dynamics:
  Sharpe recounts personal experience, warning about the volatility of public criticism and the damage to team unity.

5. Jayden Daniels Injury: Coaching Accountability

• Incident:
  Commanders QB Jayden Daniels suffers a dislocated elbow late in a blowout; DC Dan Quinn admits it was a coaching mistake not pulling him earlier.
• Analysis:
  Both hosts agree: in a lopsided game, pulling key players is basic sense.
  • “What was going to be gained from that?... All you did was increase [the risk]. That was just a routine tackle.” (Shannon, 52:36)
• Lesson:
  Minimizing risk in garbage time is a head coach’s duty; injury risk compounds with unnecessary exposure.

6. League News & Trade Activity

• Philadelphia Eagles Moving Aggressively:
  Acquiring Jalen Phillips and two cornerbacks via trades, aiming to shore up a middling defense and cope with deficiencies in generating pressure.
  • “The one thing we know about the Eagles, they're gonna... they're trying to win.” (Shannon, 67:20)
• Ravens Trade for Draymond Jones:
  Viewed as an “all in” move to boost a lagging defense, highlighting Baltimore’s win-now mentality.
  • “The Ravens, they're all in too. They're going to do everything they can to get back on track.” (Ocho, 77:13)
• Hip-Drop Tackle Suspension:
  Commanders LB Frankie Luvu becomes the first to be suspended under the league's new hip-drop tackle rules. Ocho ridicules the idea of a successful appeal given Luvu’s repeat offenses.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Bland’s Rough Night:

  • “I’ve never seen a number one guy... get targeted. Of course, Deion got beat. Of course, Revis got beat, Rod Woodson. But just to say, you know what, we're going at you no matter what? Nah. Hell no.” (Shannon, 25:27)

• On Locker Room Critique:

  • “This is why you talk about man, their house dirty. And you got rats riding around in dune buggies in your house… Because let me tell you, when you criticize someone on your team… everybody starts watching every move.” (Shannon, 44:12)

• On Playing Hurt & NFL Nostalgia:

  • “Did I? I got my shots, played through two dislocations. Can’t sleep... That was a Thursday. Played the Raiders on Sunday night.” (Shannon, 54:29)

• On Jerry Jones as GM:

  • “Nobody can come in here and do a better job at general manager... I can name 500 people that can do a better job than what you do.” (Shannon, 36:31)

• On Eagles Trades:

  • “If I'm not mistaken, I think Jalen Phillips played for Vic Fangio. He'll be familiar with the system... but what is a 2026 third-round pick going to do for me in 2025? I'm trying to win now.” (Shannon, 67:20)

• On Chicago Bears Defensive Woes:

  • “The man had five sacks and they lost by three scores.” (Shannon, 71:00)

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Key Timestamps

• Cowboys-Cardinals Game Recap & Breakdown: 04:42 – 12:48
• Dallas’ Defensive Woes & O-Line Critique: 08:13 – 12:38
• Deep Dive on Jerry Jones, Trades & Organizational Failures: 21:52 – 37:10
• Marvin Harrison’s Dad Criticizes Cardinals Offense: 26:39 – 28:53
• Ocho’s Comments on Coaching and Locker Room Leadership: 38:34 – 47:53
• Jayden Daniels Injury & Coaching Responsibility: 51:15 – 53:20
• Rule Changes: Hip-Drop Tackle Suspension: 61:06 – 64:48
• Eagles’ and Ravens’ Trade Deadline Moves: 66:31 – 78:05

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Conclusion

This episode is a thorough football postmortem from two NFL veterans, blending technical dissection with old-school locker room wisdom. The hosts call out owner-driven dysfunction in Dallas, critique players undermining unity, and hammer home what leadership should look like in football. For those who missed the episode, expect classic Unc storytelling, sharp insights, and an honest—often unfiltered—breakdown of everything that matters in November NFL.

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[Ocho Cinco]

It feels like it's trying to divide people.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Ocho Cinco]

Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You, hey, they were pick. They were where the ball find him Marvin Harrison. You got it. They got it. Got so bad. I said, son, swallow your pride and tell them to give you some help. And you see they end up mo all. I will tell you this. Oo, a cornerback had 14 tackles.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If a quarterback has 14 tackle, he getting cooked.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Listen, but hey, did you see, did you see that route before? You keep going. Did you see that route? Marvin Harrison ran the patience he had on the go slant.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, bro. Hey. Marvin Harrison should have had about 12 catches. Yeah, he should have had about 12. Cause they should. The Cowboys should have never got the ball back. If Jacobe Brissette doesn't rush that throw at the end. Oh, he wide open. Yeah, he wide open. And he missed him. On the comeback, Remember on the comeback, early in the ball game, I'm like, damn, Jacobi, you got the guy wide open. But Jacoby Brissette was 21 of 31, 261, two touchdowns. He did get slacked five times. They gave up another. They ran the ball 29 times for 119 yards. Jacobe Brissette fumbled the ball. They did. They recovered all them. Well, they fumbled. But he did recover his fumble. So it was a clean game on that half. Dak Prescott 24, 39, 251 touchdown, one interception on a late attempt. But the fumble, the turnovers, Ocho, they did a great job of pulling the ball out. Yeah, the Cowboys offense, you can't be this anemic with what you have offensively. You got a top quarterback, you got two top receivers, you got a top tier tight end. And really, Ocho, if you really look at it, they only put up 10 points and they blocked the punt.

[Ocho Cinco]

Plug it in. Got it. Got a touchdown off of that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. So the office really didn't do a whole lot tonight. If you got to play better than this, is this what you showcase on a Monday night? The world's undivided attention and that's what you put out there on Now I wonder what he would. Jerry got to say he probably ain't gonna talk tonight because, you know, hey, all I know is they got, they got the 32nd, the 31st worst defense, you know who. Number 32.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah, that's us. That's us. Listen, and obviously, you know, to talk about the Cowboys, their office has been really good. They were scoring 30 plus every game. But obviously their Achilles heel, just like the Bengals has been their defense. They haven't been able to stop the run. They had, they had some, they had some, some good plays tonight where they were able to stop the run, but they continue to gash them. You know, D McArdo, you know, he had 14 for 79. So I mean, at no point in this game where the Cowboys in control, the momentum was on the Cardinal side from the start of the game. And listen, 2117, they really only scored 10 points. Like you did say, the, the block punt, special teams. I thought the momentum would swing in the Cowboys favor, but. But it didn't. It didn't at all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Not now we can stop this notion. Oh, the Cowboys, good. The Cowboys aren't good. They're not if they don't, if they don't rush, if they don't blitz. Ocho, they trapped the Cardinals a couple of times because they came. Look, they write tackles. Beach them got beat twice around the edge. Jonah Williams, I'm like, bro, y' all got. You got to be kidding me. The right tackle was terrible tonight. If they'd have had any kind of protection on the right side. But I guess the Cowboys say that too, because Calais Campbell started eating at the end. Yeah, he got two. Kalea's got two sacks. Hit it with the Reggie White hump. Hit him, start him outside and feel his momentum. Get him inside. Yeah, but oo, I, I, I mean, what, what, I mean, what is there to talk about with the Cowboys? Like I said, D, the offensive line isn't very good. The left guard got his ass handed to him tonight. The right tackle got his ass handed to him tonight. Terence Steel is normally the right tackle. I don't know if he was injured and, and 71 is a sub, but he got his ass kicked tonight. 52, the guard was holding all night. So I, I don't know what you expect Zack Dak to do when he doesn't have a whole lot of time to throw the football. Yeah, but at the end of the day, you got to hold on to the ball, guys. Javante, you've got to hold on to the.

[Ocho Cinco]

Got to hold on to it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who's the other guy that on the tight end? Ferguson you got to hold on to the ball because you know you're deep. We talked about this last night with your team. We. When you know your defense is porous, the last thing you can do is put them back on the field. Yeah.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yep. Absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You can't do that. I don't. I didn't think. I didn't think Dak played bad. I thought he spun the ball really well. Yeah, he did, but with the pressure that he was getting and they was doing it with four, it wasn't like they were bringing gas on Cho. They was doing with four. And when they bought pressure, Javante Williams was dropping thunder on those. Oh, those corners and safeties. Yeah, a lot that was coming. Javante dropped. Woo. Yeah, yeah, I know. It felt like trees falling on the head.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah, he. He was running very hard. But also on the Cardinal side, I don't hear enough about him. As good as he is, especially tonight, I'm glad he had a prime time game. But they got them Trey McBride on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, no, he good. Hey, that guy, I tweeted the route. If you watch him, when he ran that, when he ran, it was kind of like a. I have corner and a half, what we call option wild.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Is that he got to the guy and he armed over a lot of guys. See, that's. That's what you could tell a receiving tight end.

[Ocho Cinco]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Normal tight end would have collided him.

[Ocho Cinco]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Try to get separation. The guy holds him. Now I get a penalty. I want no damn penalty. I want a touchdown. Because somebody, they gonna hand the ball. Because they go hand the ball to the running back and run a quarterback sneak. No, I want the touchdown. So he got right up on him. He didn't know what he was gonna do, bro. He gave up his leverage quick. I don't know why he gave up that leverage. And then he just right arm over the top and when the arm over the top. Now you're done. Because he's already outside of you. So now he breaks away. Jacoby Brissette did a great job of throwing the ball. I thought Brissette threw the ball exceptional. Well, he had a couple of misfires tonight, but I thought he played really, really well. Hey, they probably said, hey, Kyler, take another week.

[Ocho Cinco]

I mean, listen, listen. They, they, they just, they, they won the night, but they were on a five game losing streak. Even though they were losing. Jacobe Brissette has been playing a phenomenal football in place of Kyler Murray. Yeah, I think, I think they would. They would want Kyler Murray to hurry up and get back for the simple fact that. Listen, Jacobe. Jacobe reset as well as he's playing. He is a statue back there in the pocket.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ocho Cinco]

He don't have Kyler Murray adds that that dynamic of being able to be a dual threat and extend plays a little bit more than.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Bumble internal and a pick.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But if you think about it, Ocho, they had Tennessee beat D. Markoto had an 80 yard touchdown and he dropped the ball forward, got into the end zone and it was a touchback. And they never got the momentum back after that. So they shouldn't have lost that game. I mean that was just carelessness. But think about it. He learned his lesson. He did a first down instead of running out of bounds, he slide down, slide down. The clock moving. Yeah. But you, you know, sometimes guys have to go through stuff early in that. The Cowboys offense moved the ball well in spots. They turned the ball over down. They had to punt. And the Cardinals punter, Ocho, how much time does he think he got to punt the ball? Did you see how long it took it take him to punt that ball?

[Ocho Cinco]

And he's supposed to one step and hit that. He's supposed to one step and hit.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It and get it, even if it's not one step. If you think about, if you watch the elongated step now and because I, I'm telling you what I'm thinking.

[Ocho Cinco]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Having been on the punt team and knowing how long from snap to punt the guy 13 yards deep, it should be. That ball should be off in 2.2 or less.

[Ocho Cinco]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

2.2 or less. You go over that, you're asking for trouble.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The guy did give up inside pressure and Williams did a great job because think about it, Ocho, the guy, the ball didn't hit him in his hand, it hit him in his epic head.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Do you know how long is step and how much penetration somebody gotta get for the ball to miss their hands and hit them in the head?

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah. For the punter. What the punter has to do, you talking to a former kicker who's a field go kicker and I was a backup punter as well. You have to shorten your step. You don't have to, you don't have to elongate your step just to get into it. You got to shorten your step and come through with the kick which you follow through with your hips to get that ball out of there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He's trying to pro. He's trying to put some distance on it. So he's like, hey, let me, let me drive this. And so I got to take a, gotta take an extra. But you can't.

[Ocho Cinco]

Hold on, hold on. Williams almost blocked the second one. He'll again.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, because he that elongated stance and he's punting the ball from down. You see how he's dropping the ball? Oh, come on now.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

They had heard, they had been heard about how bad they are. But when you look at the cowboys, the cowboys are the cowboys are the cowboys. On paper they're nothing special. They don't put fear in anybody's heart, especially defensively. They don't have anybody like oh my gosh man oh man that's T.J. watt that's Miles Garrett. That's this one or that. They don't have nobody like that.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah, no, but offensively they are scary. I mean, they, they didn't show up tonight, but they've been scoring 30 plus each each game. The, the problem again for them has always been the same problem that we have down There in the AFC north is their defense. If they score 33, the other team scores 35. If they score 40, the other team scores 45. So they're having the same issues. What they have to do offensively, Dak knows it, CD Knows it, Williams knows it, and George Pickens is you have to minimize turnovers, you have to minimize the penalties, penal penalties as well, to make sure you don't put your offense in harm's way. Making difficult plays, having 13 and 17, I mean third and third and 17, you know, third and third and third and eight or third and 10 or more. So if they get, they can do that, I think they will be fine. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. What's the Cowboys record now after, after losing the night?

[Shannon Sharpe]

3, 3, 5 and 1.

[Ocho Cinco]

3, 3, 5 and 1. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So they got seven games to go to win out. Now you, if you win out your tent, your, your, your, if you went out. So that's seven games to go. So that means you're 10, five.

[Ocho Cinco]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got nine games to go. You got eight games to go. My bad. Eight games. Eight games. Eight games. They're at nine to play. 17. So if you win out, you're 11, five and one. What do you think the likelihood they went out?

[Ocho Cinco]

Well, that's difficult.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Exactly. That's my point. But you said something very interesting. They got a good offense. Okay, you got a good offense. But if you got a good offense and your defense is terrible, what can't you do? Turn it over.

[Ocho Cinco]

Turn over? Yeah. And hold on, not only turn over, no penalties. No penalties. Cuz the penalties will kill you. Holding calls, that'll kill you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Push you behind the sticks.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah. Pick, pick, pick. Hey, gp, You've been having a hell of a season. You've been having a season. Hey, don't, don't do that. Don't do that. Don't, don't, don't call. Don't cost your team. Make it, make it easier. And what you've been doing all season long, you know, they set him back. Even though Dak was able to run for that first down. Was able to run for that first down and get it. Don't, don't, don't. Send him back. No further, though. But other than that, I mean, what.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did Troy Vincent say? They're putting an emphasis on what unsports like conduct penalty.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They're not. Hey, they're not gonna let you put the ball in the guy's face. They're not gonna let you do this in the guy's face. Oh, yeah, I want to do this to your team last night.

[Ocho Cinco]

Don't do that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They're not gonna. They're not gonna let you do that. Right. They're not gonna let you trash. They're not gonna let you look at. Catch a ball and then stare at the sideline and do all that stuff. They, they. The NFL has said they're doing. Putting an emphasis on. Yeah, sportsmanship. That's what they're saying.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You do. He did. He realized the official is standing right there looking dead at it.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, so listen, somebody scream. Somebody scream something to him on the sideline, right? It was too late.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Too late.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah, it was too late.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It was too late. The Cowboys offense, three turnovers. Turning the ball over on downs, twice on Stephen A show. Earlier today, Jerry Jones headed the Cowboys and made a trade, but wouldn't say with whom, for whom. Though Jared said last week he doesn't think one player can make the Cowboys defense competitive, he indicated to Stephen A. The trade involved a defensive player. Immediately. It will. Immediately. It would have them on the field. And it will address some things that have been our shortcomings. Well, first of all, unless you blitz, you can't rush the quarterback, you can't stop the run. So I'm trying to think who you getting.

[Ocho Cinco]

And you know what's funny too, when I think about some of the players, I mean, is it Trey Henderson? I mean, Trey Henderson is healthy. You know, over with the Bengals, obviously it gives you. It solidifies maybe a defensive end. Listen, Trey, who had back to back 17 get 17 sack game seasons, but our, our defense is still ranked 32nd. So does he really move the needle if you add him, add him to your defense? I mean, probably he'll. He'll make some plays, but it doesn't really change much. It doesn't really change much for their defense. They don't have to do a whole overhaul. But you need three pieces. You need three pieces. You need somebody up front, you need somebody at the second level that is good and consistent and you need somebody. Well, we. We thought. I. Well, the Ron Bland didn't have a night tonight, but. But he's decent. He has to play much, much better. Especially when you're going to follow. When you're going to be following and shadowing the number one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They shouldn't do that. They shouldn't. They should let him, Let him play sides.

[Ocho Cinco]

He, he.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He's not that guy. He's not a Satan, he's not a Stingly. He's not one of these. I granted he got paid like 1o, but he's not. He's. He doesn't have frequent flyer miles. He can't travel anytime he want to.

[Ocho Cinco]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He's not on the buddy pass, you know, hey, sir Tan got a buddy pass, right? He can fly anytime he want to. Stingley has a buddy pass. He can fly anytime he want to. Those guys, Gonzalez and. Yeah, man, we got to stop this notion. Oh, he got paid, bro. Just cause you get paid. We've seen a lot of guys get paid, right? They got to pay somebody.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah, but, but, but listen, they ask when you, when you make that kind of money, they ask you to travel. They do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They.

[Ocho Cinco]

They asking more of you. You know, you got to take on that tall tag.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ask them not to. They asked me to travel. I asked them to say, I don't want to travel this week. You know, hey, you got. He got a hand. Like I said, I've seen guys get beat, but I've never seen a number one guy. And he's the number one guy now get targeted. Yeah.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Of course, time got beat. Of course, Revis got beat, Rod Woodson. But just to say, you know what, we're going at you no matter what. What?

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah. Hell no. So I wonder what the excuse is today, because for like six weeks, and we're gonna get to that. What Jerry said about Michael laying on the table, and I. And I told you, I said, ocho, that ain't a good look.

[Ocho Cinco]

Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I said that. I said, ocho, that's not a good look. I said, you thumb your nose up at Jerry and you know, Jerry is one of these guys that's vindictive. You know this.

[Ocho Cinco]

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I don't know what. I don't know. Before the game, Marvin Harrison senior said, it's very hard for me to watch the. Watch the Cardinals offense, and you can quote me on that. The style of offense that I'm accustomed to, that I'm used to watching as a profession, with a. As a professional eye, as a wide receiver. I just can't relate to watching that offense, that style of offense. Basically, I can't relate to what goes on there. I think that's Peacefully put without pointing fingers or, or anything. It's just me. I'm giving you the professional. I, I can't relate to it and it don't add up to me. I can't deal with it. Ojo.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Marvin has to understand who did he have his entire career?

[Ocho Cinco]

Peyton. Peyton. Absolute Manning.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What the Paid.

[Ocho Cinco]

Paid. Absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Office don't look like that with your professional eye. Do you realize you had a top three quarterback in the history of the game throwing you the ball? The lion share of your career. I don't know if he played. Did he play with Andrew Luck? I think he played one. Might have played one year with Luck. So think about it. You go from one number, one overall draft pick to another number. Now, granted his first two years, I don't even know who the quarterback was. Maybe, maybe Jim Harbaugh might have been the quarterback when he got there 96. I'm thinking Jim was the quarterback. I don't know who was the quarterback in 97, but because Marvin got there. He was in the keyshawn Draft in 96.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, keyshawn, Masim Muhammad, all those guys were in the same draft.

[Ocho Cinco]

But that, that's, that's what he's used to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, okay. So you heard, huh?

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah. I said Marvin Harris is used to seeing football play in a certain manner. He's used to seeing offense, offensive play. I mean, offensive play style. He's used to seeing it in a certain manner. And it's based on his experience being within Napoleon's Colts. And that, that, that's not what the Arizona Cardinals are. That is not what they are at all. Not. Not even close.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. And I, and I had, and I had to learn that oo. Because for the, for 10 years of my career, I had seven as a quarterback. And you take for granted like everybody. Every quarterback is like this.

[Sponsor Voice]

She.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, hell, it ain't. No, I had to learn the heart because the way the quarterback and you talk to any receiver, they'll tell you the quarterback will tell you what you need to do. When he would put the ball between the eight and the four, he's telling me there's danger on both sides. If he put it on my back shoulder. He said, don't you turn right.

[Sponsor Voice]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You better. Hey, let me take you where the ball's going. Yeah. If I lead you, I'm telling. Something's behind you, mind you.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You take that for granted. You're like, oh, bro, you just put that on me like that. Until you go and you tell you play with another quarterback. And they put the ball right here. You turn right there, and that guy hit you dead in your face.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yep. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So I get what Marvin's saying. That's his son, and rightfully so. I get it. You gotta understand, bro, you had Peyton. You had peyton basically from 1998 until 2008 when you called it a career. So for about 11 years, you had arguably one of the two best quarterbacks in the league at that time, it was him and Tom. Yep. And so what I thought, when it's all said and done, you got a top three, top four quarterback in the history of the game, throwing you the football for the lion's share of your career. So you're right. And it's hard, Ocho. It's really, really hard. This is why I don't coach, is because when you. You know how things should look, right? You know how things should run. Me being a special teams player, I know how long the punch should take to get off. And granted, the guy, it was a lot of penetration, but if you get the ball off in normal cadence, that ball isn't getting blocked.

[Ocho Cinco]

Not even close. And especially like allowing hitting the guy in the helmet.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Ocho Cinco]

Definitely not.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I can see if the guy. Oh, you know, sometimes the guy you lay out. Okay, the guy lays out. You got me? Yeah, bro. I'm like, damn. He like. He just like, hey, like a stroll in the park with his wife or something. Hey, get the damn ball out. Yeah, I guarantee. I guarantee you the special teams coach. And so I asked, because a lot of times, this is why I don't watch with the sound, and I like to be in my own home. A lot of times, these guys that call the game, they were ex players. What were they thinking? So I asked, I say, so what did Troy say? Troy said the same. They said. Troy basically said the same thing that I said. Okay, because I'm. Look, I get it. It was a block point. Kudos to the special teams. But at the end of the day, I want to know why that punt was blocked. How. How long did it take him? Was that a normal cadence? Was that a normal sequence? Was it the normal 2, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, 3? Or was it longer than that to get off? Because if it was, that explains why I get blocked. That's why they time it. Ocho, if you notice in practice, you've been in practice, when we practice, when they do a special team, you got the clock. Special team coaches right there. Got the clock snap down to hold a kick. I need to know it's got to be this. It's got to be this. It's got to be this. Same thing with the punt. It's got to be this. It's got to be this. It's got to be this.

[Ocho Cinco]

And, and also that's on the special team, too. Now, once that ball is snapped, everything's supposed to squeeze down. There should be no penetration, especially not up the middle. The fastest way to get to the punter is right up the middle. So if, if there's any penetration in the middle, you know, they squeeze for trouble. Yeah, exactly. You ask for trouble.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You always make them run the loop. You make them run the farthest distance, you make them run around and. And if the guy come from around and block it, you way too damn slow. Yeah, I. I just don't. Give me the Cowboy schedule, Ash. Give me the Cowboys schedule. The next. Hell, I thought that was going to go out of the game because I think it was K. Campbell got him early when he rolled out and rolled up his ankle. Yeah, but that had some sweet. Them fours was nice. You see them blue fours he had on?

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I wish we had some George like that when we could have got me a pair of them.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah, them things were nice.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, man, these guys be having some smoking shoes. But everybody shouldn't be having smoking shoes. I mean, I see guys down on special teams playing like 5:15 snaps. And y' all got on patent leather shoe. No, no. Do you had to be a hellraiser.

[Ocho Cinco]

Oh, so you're trying to say you got to be special to wear them? Kind of, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You should be. Oh, they're at the Raiders. That's Monday night, isn't it? They had the raiders on the 17th. So they coming up on the body. They got. They buy and then they're at the Raiders. They get the Eagles at home, they get the Chiefs at home, at the Lions, Vikings at home, Chargers at home, at Commanders at Giants. They got a schedule.

[Ocho Cinco]

Hey, that. Hey, that's hell right there, boy. Yes, that is him. Now. Now I'm curious. Whatever. Whatever trade did happen with the Cowboys, it has to come out tomorrow by 4 o', clock, if I'm not mistaken, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Abely does.

[Sponsor Voice]

Yeah, I'm.

[Ocho Cinco]

I'm. I'm curious. I'm curious to see who that is. I'm. I'm really.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It absolutely does. Boy, they got the A. Eagles, Chiefs, Lions, Vikes, Chargers.

[Ocho Cinco]

Hey, that's nasty work right there, too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If I'm the. If I'm the cheese. Hell, I'm trying to make a trade too. They need to go get a defensive player. They need to get a lineman. They can't generate pressure. They're not getting pressure like they once could. Don't you.

[Ocho Cinco]

Wait. Chris Jones, who's at the end?

[Shannon Sharpe]

They got to go get somebody.

[Ocho Cinco]

Chris Jones.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You see the Eagles made a move for Jalen Phillips. Yes. Because they realize they're not getting pressure. You can't. Ocho. You. You can't. You got to be able to get pressure or you got to sacrifice your back end.

[Ocho Cinco]

You got. You got to have a disruptor at some point.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got to. You got to. But. So I don't know where. The Cowboys. Arizona needed this win at 3 and 5. I don't think they can do it. They can cause any damage in the. The NFC west because the Rams are better team. 49ers are a better team. The Seahawks are just a better team. Way better teams than what the Cardinals are. But whatever reason, the Cards always have the. The Cowboys number. They normally run the football. One year they ran the ball for like 200 yards. I mean, Cowboys still can't stop to run. They still can't stop the run, Ocho.

[Ocho Cinco]

Hey, every. You know what's so unfair, too? Every time I see that toss, that toss crack or just that toss toss in general and that guard pulling, I feel sorry for dbs. I feel sorry.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You can't cut them anymore. You can't cut the offensive line. You remember you used to. You could undercut them. You got to stay up and take that punishment.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah. You normally. I mean, how it was during our day, you know, db. I mean, db, go in there, go straight for the. For the lineman.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Legs go low. Yes.

[Ocho Cinco]

Create a pile. You create a pile as fast as you can and make him go back inside and hope your pursuit is coming.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because what. What at the committee looked at and it's like, guys, you're putting us. You're putting us in harm's way. Yeah. If you allow them guys to cut our legs, you don't let us cut anymore. Right. But you go. Let us come down there full speed, and the guy can just go low because they cut. They cut it out on. On special teams. Also used to be able to cut on. On kickoff.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And kick returns like. Nah, that's. You're asking for trouble. But the Cowboys, they got a. They get it by a week. They get the whole week off, Ocho. Because you know by. In the bylaws now, Ocho, you got to get the whole week off.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah, I'm. I just want to see what they bring In. That's. That's.

[Sponsor Voice]

I'm.

[Ocho Cinco]

And Jerry said it himself, one player is not going to make a difference. One player is not going to make a difference. But I'm sure whoever it's going to be, he going to praise him like hell.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. It don't matter. Can he play?

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah. Well, can he play? Can he make a difference?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let me ask you a question.

[Ocho Cinco]

Can he make a damn difference?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Have you ever seen a frog not praise his own pond?

[Ocho Cinco]

Oh, but that's. Hey, that's a good one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What, man, we got. We got the bluest water. We got the most fish. We got everything you need right here. Name a frog that doesn't praise his own pond. Name a time, a coach or a T. Don't praise his players. Rightfully so. But am I taking Jared word on now? If you want to talk about business, this $100 billion deal that he was so elated about. Right. I'm all ears.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah. You got my undivided attention when it comes to a player, but I ain't listening to Jerry. I'm not.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, other people can because I'm not, because he don't. Nobody can come in here and do a better job at general manager. I can name five people that can come in and do a better job. A five? Hey, like you told Jimmy, you can have 500 people to coach that team. I can name 500 people that can do a better job than. Than what you do.

[Ocho Cinco]

I can name two that's over there in your same division that could change your whole franchise around?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah, for sure. Oh, Howard Roseman, you know, you get Howie Roseman, you get Brett Veach, the one in Kansas City.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You get Brian Kunikins, the one that's in Green Bay.

[Ocho Cinco]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You get homes in Detroit.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You mean to tell me, based on the young talent that they've got and the people that they brought in, they can't do a better job than Jerry? Hey, listen, Detroit used to be laughing stock. Now they got the highest ticket price because everybody wants to go.

[Ocho Cinco]

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Kansas City, Really? Howie Roseman, Nothing else needs to be said. Think about all those teams, man, please. Zach Ocho, your team. Zach Taylor took exception to comments made by Chase Brown after yesterday's loss to the Bears, saying that the running backs critique was better left unsaid. We said this, Ocho. That's not how we want to react. And one of our best players, one of our most high character players, I think, in a moment of frustration, said that I don't expect that to happen again. Taylor said he takes exception to such comment from players who who are not doing everything they can to help the team win. Brown was a key third down drop that forced the Bengals to settle for a field goal. Taylor also brought up Brown's miscommunic miscommunication error that took points off the board. I love Chase to death. That's the part of the conversation with him. This is a little bit of outside of you. You see what I'm saying, Ocho? Now you understand when we talk about Osho, that's why you keep your mouth shut.

[Ocho Cinco]

Which is why I never, even when I played on, I never chastise anybody. Whether I play good, whether I played bad, whether the defense played bad, or whether the offense played bad. I never said anything because there's a microscope. There's a microscope under you that you can't see. You can't. You can't see it. You can't see it. All of us make mistakes. Again. We practice to try to be as perfect as possible, but it's almost impossible. Chase Brown, he talking trash. He's upset, he's frustrated. Talk about the defense. Well, hell, you had mistakes as well that could have changed the outcome of the game and you didn't even realize it. But until the coach brings it up to you with that magnifying glass, Wait a minute. Ain't this you? Ain't this you? You. You got to be careful. That's why Jamar said what he said, Jamar. That's why Jamar said what he said, as mad as he was. And he has the right to be upset.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

But this is why you talk about man, they person got a dirt man, they house dirty. And you got rats riding around in dune buggies in your house.

[Sponsor Voice]

Bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You can't do it. Because let me tell you what happens, Ocho, when you criticize someone on your team.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Guess what that does. Everybody starts watching every move you make, every route you make, every block that you do. Every. They watch everything.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And then they come back and say, hey, did you.

[Ocho Cinco]

Did you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you got.

[Ocho Cinco]

You got to be careful. You got. And also that's why.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And everybody's like, he has a right. No, I'm not saying he doesn't have a right.

[Sponsor Voice]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But unless you're gonna go out there and be a per. Be perfect.

[Ocho Cinco]

Perfect.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. 65 plays for 17 games.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Shut up. Shut up.

[Ocho Cinco]

And you know what?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Also nothing good comes from it.

[Ocho Cinco]

Hey. And stuff like that. That could. That could. That could spin. That could spin in the locker room, Monk. That could spin. Hey, it take. It take way. It take one defensive player to say something and all hell gonna break loose in there. Take one defensive player. Just one man. Who in the you think you is, boy? Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Jonathan Taylor, right? You know you ain't Saquon, right?

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You not Derrick Henry.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't telling what somebody told you. I'm telling about what it's like being in a locker room. And I've been in a locker room where we. Our offense was. I don't think we were as bad as the Bengals defense. We were pretty bad.

[Ocho Cinco]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That's not necessary.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, my bad. But I'm just context. Oo. You know you have to Provide context for people. Context. But you have to keep everything in house, keep yourself. I've been frustrated, but when I'm frustrated, I'm not talking. I'm not talking to no girlfriends. I'm not talking to my homeboys, because the la. Cause that pillow talking. Pillow, that's something else. That'll break up a locker room, too. Yeah, pillow talking.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They get to talking with their girlfriend, they'll be talking to. Talking to one girlfriend, one wife, and all of a sudden.

[Ocho Cinco]

And it all get back.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn you. And I can speak from personal experience, having been on the locker room, hadn't been in situations, and see how things can spill over. I. I don't know. I. I think sometimes people like, well, let him tell the truth. It's true.

[Ocho Cinco]

It.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It is. It is absolutely true.

[Ocho Cinco]

Some things you can't say bad.

[Sponsor Voice]

Some things can't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Unless you're playing perfect. Shut the hell.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah, you got to keep it quiet.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's really that simple. Boy, there have been times, Ocho, even I had some of my best games. I'm talking about some of my best guys. I'm talking about 170, 182. Yeah, boy. I said, boy, I'm sure glad we didn't have to come in and watch this take because, boy, my blocking was some trash.

[Ocho Cinco]

No matter how good you played, there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Was some times on charge like, oh, damn, hey, my bad td. You know what I'm saying? Hey, but I tell you what I didn't get. You are gonna cross my face. Oh, yeah. I'm watching these guys. Lord have mercy. Guys, if there's a guy head up, you right, and there's a guy coming out, you look up and you see a guy coming down outside, the guy that's on you, he ain't going outside because he no longer has contained back there. Has contained. He's going to cross your face.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah, you got to wash him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm like, how many times do I see you guys do that? Yeah, I watched Jonah Williams give up a chip. The guy get. He get. The guy chipped him.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And he let it get. I say. I say, son, if you had a brains. I know you walk backwards, boy. I'm looking at somebody. But that's. That's what's the frustrating part, Ocho, because I know these guys, how much they. They. I don't want to, but I'm saying I know how hard I studied what I studied when I was looking for cues. Just. Just a little thing, because these guys get paid, too. I had to tell Mike that Mike, like, hey, hey, 84. You got to beat that guy. I say, mike, his check hit direct deposit, too. He get paid? What the hell? You think I'm the only one getting.

[Ocho Cinco]

Paid in this, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

He. He gave a little. Little ride, smile. Come on, bro. But I'm saying there are certain things, ocho, that will give you an advantage. That's why we watch. If. If we couldn't gain anything from watching film, Ocho, hell, we just show up and play on Sunday.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What the hell am I hearing this cold? Or when it's 105 or when it's 20, when it's 10 degrees? Why am I out here if I can't gain nothing from watching film?

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I knew. I knew. I knew this. We talked about it last night. I'm like, bro, I understand your frustration. You scored 42 points. You score 14 points in 49 seconds. I say, but, bro, you can't do that. You cannot, cannot, cannot. And people, they don't. Like I said, ojo, some things you have to be in that environment for you to understand. See, I don't know what it's like to be a coal miner. I don't know what it's work. Work. What it's like to work on a sanitation department. I don't know what it's like to do certain jobs. But when it comes to a locker room environment, team environment, I know certain things that will go and certain things that won't go.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And this is not. This is not going to be acceptable. And I have to give the guys a lot of credit. Car, we was good and terrible in 2000.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And the defense never said anything. Now behind closed doors, you're like, man, Shay, y' all gotta do. Y' all gotta give us more than what y'. All. I said, I know. I said, I know, bro. I know, I know. And you know, talking to Brian, I said, brian, bro, what we doing?

[Ocho Cinco]

Hey, y'.

[Sponsor Voice]

All.

[Ocho Cinco]

J O. J O was there with you?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, J O was there. Yeah.

[Ocho Cinco]

All right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ogden.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. You know, J O and Ray came in together in 96.

[Ocho Cinco]

Okay. Yeah, yeah, that's right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And. And then Peter Bower came in 97, and I think Starks came in 98. Chris McAllister came in 99. Cause Jamal was 2000. Jamal. And Travis Taylor, I think was 2000.

[Ocho Cinco]

Hey, but y', all, who did it? Who was drafting in?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ozzy? Did he got Ed Reed? Did he got Suggs?

[Ocho Cinco]

He know how to pick him, boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Hey, don't think he's had it. Ain't in the stew. It's still in the stew.

[Ocho Cinco]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But, yeah, it's just I. I knew this was gonna cause some conflict.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Just don't. Hey, I'm gonna let the coach handle that. Come on, guys, pick it up. We got way. Dan Quinn took full responsibility for keeping Jaden Daniels in the game during the fourth quarter, acknowledging it was a mistake that led to Jet Daniels dislocated elbow. Man, I missed it. That's going to be the last drive with a couple of that for a couple of guys. Jaden and Zach Debo Tunsil. We were going to have run run plays, meaning no carries for the quarterback on the run. Honestly, man, that's where I missed it. Of course he could scramble is Jaden, and it's what makes me special. That's what he's special at. And it's 100 on me. X ray Daniel did not reveal any fractures. Person familiar with the situation said Quinn had no timetable for the star quarterback's recovery. It'll knock him out for a while. In Rappaport, Daniels expected to miss several games. Ocho. I mean, this ain't no high. This ain't no yes, yes, please chat. Can y' all spare us this? What if he'd have got hurt in his first quarter? Yeah, he could have got hurt the first quarter, but if the score was. If the score was 38 to nothing in.38 to 7 in the first quarter.

[Ocho Cinco]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He probably gonna play to the half, but it was 38 to 7.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What was going to be gained. I just want you. What was going to be gained from that? The. All you did was increase, because it's not like the defense go like, hey, man, we already got the lead, so let's not. That was just a routine tackle.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He's trying to protect himself, and he puts his arm down now. Yeah. And with that kind of pressure, it doesn't take a whole lot to pop a joint out.

[Ocho Cinco]

I mean, honestly, I wish he hadn't put his hand out. I wish he was just. Just roll. Just roll with it. Roll with it. Your minute, your momentum is already going that way. Just roll with it. Just. Just let the body go and just roll with it. Trying to put that hand down with that kind of pressure with a guy twirling you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep.

[Ocho Cinco]

Go ahead. It's gonna happen every time. Something got to give. Something got to give.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Just like I KNEW Christian Luke McCaffrey when he got hit. I said, he broke his collarbone.

[Sponsor Voice]

Oh, yeah.

[Ocho Cinco]

Absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because did you see. What was it? Is it 95 and 96 or 94 and 95? They got two 300 pounders at the. At the four, at the fives.

[Ocho Cinco]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I said, oh, he broke his collarbone because he got pen. Yeah, same thing happened to me, but it was a smaller guy that fell on me. Oo had my arm pinned just like this. Yeah. He cut me over. Hey, Teacup. You could look at somebody and when they follow and you know exactly where to see what it is, because you've done it.

[Ocho Cinco]

Y.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Somebody get crunched? I said, oh, yeah, his shoulder. I dislocated my shoulder. Both of them. Rest your soul. Derek Duron tackled me in a preseason game. Oo fell on this one. Dislocated. He fell on top of that, separated the other one. Now I walk around here like Frankenstein.

[Ocho Cinco]

Oh, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Can't sleep. But you know what? Oo we had a game that. Hey, that was in. What year was that? Don't.

[Ocho Cinco]

Don't tell. Don't tell me you shot yourself up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did I?

[Ocho Cinco]

And you went and played.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That happened on a. That was a Thursday. We played that next week. We played. As a matter of fact, we played the Raiders on Sunday night. Shot him up. Give it to me. Come on, Doc. Come on.

[Ocho Cinco]

You. You was that there. I wish. I wish I understood. I actually knew what that stuff. Knew what that stuff was like, so I could actually be able to be able to talk about it. But what I. What I am good at doing is because I've been around it so much and I've seen it so much, is I can see a person get tackled. I can see how a person falls. And if they don't get up, you can tell exactly what's wrong with them. You know, exactly what it is every single time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Hey, you the first Batman. When the joke. When the Batman was coming in and the Joker. Jack Nicholson was pulling, he pulled out that big old long gun. Pulled it out of p. Come on, you gruesome son of a. That. Hey, that's what I was like. Oo you got to grit your teeth. Hey, I get that towel and bite on it.

[Ocho Cinco]

Hey. And then. And then, and then, and then you can feel. You can feel whatever. Whatever the fluid is going in.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They put that. They put that cold spray because I had to get, you know, here in the. In the back, both. So I had to get four shots.

[Sponsor Voice]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

As a matter of fact, Ronnie Lott was at the Raiders at the time. We ran like a crop. I read like a toss So I push up and when the safety come down, I peel off.

[Ocho Cinco]

You gotta, you gotta. You gotta crack. He caught you. I bet he hit you right on that shoulder.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Can you forget? Oh, so you forget. You forget, right? You don't act like. Okay, you know what I'm saying? I forgot because normally if you got one shoulder injured, you try to use the other shoulder, right? Well, I forgot. Both shoulders messed up, so I tried to. I'm naturally right handed, so I'm trying to. I'm on the right side, so.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah, right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man, it's like electricity go all through my body. Ah, I'm talking about everything. I'm talking about, Ocho. I'm talking about. I was just like trembling. I said, lord, I can't do it no more.

[Ocho Cinco]

Hey, that was it. That was it for you, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

That was it, Ocho. That was it. That was it. That was it. That was it. There's been. There's been two times that's happened to me in my. And when I'm talking about my. Like, my body wouldn't numb, right? I hit Ken. I was playing fullback at the time. I used to have a cowboy collar on Ocho, right? And it was. As a matter of fact, it was just. It was 92 and we had a draw play. So, you know, Ocho, I shuffle over, right? Hit Ken, me and Ken Norton hit bow like. I'm talking about like two rounds.

[Ocho Cinco]

Well, he way bigger than you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, you gotta sell out Ocho. Cause guess what? I know what he thinking. He looking like I ain't going to o lay him, right? Because if I o lay him, the back going to go where I went.

[Ocho Cinco]

From the opposite way.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So I'm. Hey, I'm going to take him head on. I know that. So, hey, boy, a. My whole body. I said, man. I said, man, you feel. I say, you felt that? He's like, yeah, man, that was a good one.

[Ocho Cinco]

Oh, Ken Norton bad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But if it was back in the day, I said, man, this ain't for me, Ocho. I need to start catching passes, man.

[Ocho Cinco]

Right? This is. This was early in your career.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Early in my career, yeah. Because I was mainly used as a blocker, okay? Because I was a big wide receiver. So when we run like we run a sweep or something, because I could push up the corner and then come crack the crack the safety, you know, it didn't matter if it was Fortuner, if it was Eddie Anderson, if it was Ronnie lot, them big safety like that. They looking up wide receivers, tried to declutter them, but they weren't doing that with o'. Shea. O'. Shea.

[Ocho Cinco]

Well, you. You realize everybody you just named come downhill to the party.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, yes, yes. That's. That's how. That's how I earned my strike because I wasn't backing down for nobody.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's how I gotta stay in the league, Ocho.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I wasn't catching those 70, 80 passes back then. I'm catching seven passes. I'm catching 21 passes. Right? Oh, bro. Hey, you got. You got the field shape.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[Sponsor Voice]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, for sure.

[Ocho Cinco]

So that mean you were just like me? Yeah, you know, I. You know, I. Listen, you know, I ain't seen nobody, and I don't care who. I don't care. I don't care how many times I lose.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Because, you know, back then, Ocho. Hey, them joke was a receiver. Oh, they looking to blow a receiver up. Sometimes they would run past the running back just to get a shot on you. But, you know, I had to practice against Atwater and Dennis Smith every day.

[Ocho Cinco]

Oh, boy. At what? That's another one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Ocho Cinco]

Hey, listen, Steve Atwater, Ronnie Lott, Donovan, Darius. Boy, them people ain't had no. No regard for their body, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

David for was a big safety play for you guys.

[Ocho Cinco]

Another one. Yeah. The reason I got fined so much. So much, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Eddie Anderson with the Raiders. Mark Carrier. We had. We had Rodney Harrison. We had Chuck Cecil. Oh, yeah, Rodney. Hey, Rodney.

[Ocho Cinco]

Rodney. Another one too. The party.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Rodney was in our same division.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I ain't never had no problem. We got before the game. Hey, hey, sharp. I'm gonna keep it a stay on my knees. I ain't gonna. Hey, we good. Yeah, we're gonna have some good old battles. But, hey, ain't gonna be no cheap stuff going on. You can. You can. You can respect that. Ocho Commanders linebacker Frankie Lavu was suspended without pay for one game. Repeated violation of the hip drop tackle. Louisville will reportedly appeal the ruling. If he loses, it could cost him more than a half million dollars. The NFL rule. Lovu violated the policy again in the first quarter on Jackson, Smith and Jigba. It was Lovable's third time being fined for hip drop tackle, leading him to become the first player suspended under the rule. He was fined for violating the policy in weeks four and eight. If the suspension holds, he would forfeit a game. Check Worth. Check this. Ocho $508,333. He's been fined 23,186 a week for violation and they doubled that fine in week eight, he also would miss Washington's home game against the Lions.

[Ocho Cinco]

Well, listen, the fact that he's already been fined before, he's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He's what they call a repeat offender.

[Ocho Cinco]

A repeat offender. And he tried to appeal. That's gonna uphill. That's gonna be uphill. So you might well go ahead and take your break now. Take your break. Go get put up. Put on your running shoes, because you will not be playing the next game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause if I'm not mistaken, Jordy Nelson. I think it's Jordy Nelson and Brooks are the appeal.

[Ocho Cinco]

Wait, Jordy Nelson is the one now?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Jordan Nelson, I think he took over for James Trash. And Brooks is still one. I think I should. It's lady. So, James, I wish I knew this because I had to text Brooks and see if he was going. If he was going to hear it. You know, Derrick Brooks.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah, yeah. So Derek Brooks took over for. For Merton Hanks.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. John Runyon is the head, but when you go, he'll issue it and then you go hear it. James Trash. No, excuse me. Jordan Nelson or Derrick Brooks.

[Ocho Cinco]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, Runyan is the head officer for violations off the field. On field. That's him. Now, obviously, some things now, the commissions. In the commissions, when it comes, you know, some things, it just goes to the commissioner.

[Ocho Cinco]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But. Yeah, I don't. I don't think. I don't. Okay. Ramon Foster. Oh, he used to play with the Steelers, right?

[Colin Coward]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. Yeah, yeah. Hey, now, see, I can do that. Hey. Damn, Ocho.

[Ocho Cinco]

No, no, no, no, no. I'm switching to IT now. I've been using the laptop camera. Right? And so the funny thing, the first hour. The first hour, my camera always works, so I'm like, you know what? I'm going. I say the first hour, I'mma just stay on the laptop camera and then you. And use the regular camera on the back end, so probably it won't go out this time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, see, that's what they need to see. I could do something like this. Here. Come here. Hey, come see me about the. Fine. Let me. Okay. Talk to me, right? Tell me what you thinking on here.

[Ocho Cinco]

Oh, you're gonna put the film up?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, I said, but you. Hey, but I say, you remember two weeks ago, you and I had this conversation and you said, what will happen again?

[Ocho Cinco]

And you did it again.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Guess what? Here we are. Conversation.

[Ocho Cinco]

When you. When you're playing the game as fast as the game is moving, you don't even realize it. You know, I'm not trying to defend a defender or a person that's on defense. They. They're already handicapped as it is. They can't hit nobody. And obviously you. Sometimes you get caught in. In vulnerable positions and you're just trying to make a play. You're just trying to make a play.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But. But what they've sown it. It is. It is the. The expert. It goes up. The injury rate goes up exponentially. Expedition.

[Sponsor Voice]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When guys hit that hip drop tackle on you. Oh, yeah, when guys were. You remember when Roy Williams was cowboy.

[Ocho Cinco]

Calling people wait, he got t. Got to like that he broke.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, he got some other people too. He got a lot of people.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yep.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They said, nah, we go outlaw this cut a cowboy collar used to be legal.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They have a clothesline. Used to be. Used to be legal. The head slap was legal.

[Ocho Cinco]

Legal. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Boy, that's a lot of cheap. Hey, I think after. Let's see, half a meal ojo for a game check. Hey, I think he might learn his lesson after this one, Ocho.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah, listen, I. I don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And the thing is, at least they should let the players decide where the money go.

[Ocho Cinco]

It's going in somebody pocket. I think the fan money. Like I said, the fine money been lying in somebody pocket.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I just don't know who they got me out of. Hey, they need to give me mine back.

[Ocho Cinco]

But listen, if they give yours back, I want. I want all 10 years of mine back too, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey. Cause me and AG at the time, because AG Kept his face. Now our parents were like that kicker from Oklahoma, man, you see that kicker.

[Ocho Cinco]

From Oklahoma, Ocho, he had on shorts. Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Come on. I'm like, come on, bro.

[Ocho Cinco]

He had on shorts. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now me and AG now my. You know, I tried to have those long socks to pull up, but Reggie, I was like, come on, A.G. now you. Hey, I mean, both of us can't be out here with me showing, but yeah, that. That kick I was. Wasn't as bad as. As the kicker from Oklahoma, but when they get you, Ocho. The Eagles added another player to the defense ahead of the NFL trade deadlines, acquiring outside linebacker Jalen Phillips from the Dolphins. The Phillips. Excuse me. The Dolphins will receive a 2026 third round draft pick in the deal, while the Eagles hope to boost their struggling pass rush with the third trade in the last week. The Eagles also landed cornerbacks Michael Carter II and Jair Alexander in separate trades last week, looking to bolster a defense that's currently. Currently ranked 23rd in the NFL in defense. And 24th in sacks. Ocho, what do you think this does for the Eagles?

[Ocho Cinco]

I mean, I think it can help. It can help obviously, J. Alexander, if you can show flashes of what he used to be in the past once they implement them on that defense. Phillips coming in, adding a little bit pressure so the back end is not exposed. Keon Mitchell can pro. Can really much, so much really hold us on. But if they can get some pressure from Jalen Phillips and get Jalen Carter going, I think they gonna. I think they're gonna be okay offensively. We know what they can do offensively at some point. Probably on the back half of the season. I think Saquon gonna go crazy, huh? I. I don't know why. I just. I just have a feeling they can't keep him bottled up all season long. They just can't. At some point things are gonna break. You just keep on chopping wood. Keep on chopping wood. And I think the success with the run game is going to open up the pass and the Eagle will be right back in the same place they was last year.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If I'm not mistaken. I think Jalen Phillips, I think he played under Fangio. Fangio used to be the DC so he's going to be very familiar with Vic and they. I think and he had one of his best years under Fangio. But yeah, I. Look, the one thing we know about the Eagles, they're gonna. Hey, they're trying to win them draft picks. They're fighting good. But we're in 2025. What good is the 2026 draft pick gonna do to help me win?

[Ocho Cinco]

Nothing. Not this year. We want.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, so I'm trying to win right now. So. Hey, do you think that means they're out of the trade? They're out of the Miles Garrett business?

[Ocho Cinco]

Oh, absolutely, absolutely. Because there's no way you can get. You can't get. You can't get. Well, who they gonna let go? You're not letting Jalen Carter go nowhere. Absolutely not.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, I give you three first rounders and. And a starter.

[Ocho Cinco]

No, it's not happening Now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I give you three first rounders. I give you three. Four. I give you two first rounders and I let one of them D linemen go.

[Ocho Cinco]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Or I give you three first rounders and nobody.

[Ocho Cinco]

No, it's not happening still. It's not. It's not. It's not happening. They did. They're just not giving. They're not letting a player of mouth Garrett caliber go under any.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You're not winning with it. Ocho, you need to rebuild.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah, even if. Even. Even if you. Even if you need to rebuild, you just. You don't do. You don't. You just don't. It just. It makes no sense. Even. Even if you're not winning with him. He is your. He is your defense. He is your identity. He is the face of your franchise, which is normally held for the quarterback position. You're not going nowhere. Nah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You could be right. You could be right, but that doesn't mean. Ocho tell me. No. What's the candy man? Candy man. Candy man. You have to say that three times.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah, listen, the Browns. The Browns will block the Eagles phone number.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, you better change your number. I'mma call. Hey, give me your phone. I'll make a call. I'mma call it for. Hey, they block that number. Give me a phone. I'm gonna make a call.

[Ocho Cinco]

You gonna call from somebody else?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'mma call. I'mma keep calling for. From a number that y' all ain't got, right? I'm a robo call. Y' all ass.

[Ocho Cinco]

Nah, they.

[Colin Coward]

They.

[Ocho Cinco]

They not doing nothing. They. They not doing nothing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, Andrew. How you doing today? Yeah, man, it's. It's great outside. How the weather in Cleveland. You want the 3? First round, we going to try to take Miles up off your hands.

[Ocho Cinco]

Mm. N. We. We can't do it. Okay. We can't do it because ain't no. Ain't no first rounders. No first round is out there that's worthy of letting Miles Garrett go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho, or you want to just hold on to the guy because it looks good. Are you trying to win or try to get building blocks to win?

[Ocho Cinco]

Try. You've been. You've been building. You've been building for 35 years. This ain't Legos.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This ain't like. Well, I need to keep trying, man.

[Ocho Cinco]

Please. A fool. A fool. That ain't happening. It ain't happening.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, it's a. Look, they got a great defense, but O. You're not winning. I don't care how great your defense is with your offense like that. You not winning.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah, yeah. You're not.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, my Miles Garrett. It doesn't matter.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah, listen, you're not winning, but it gives you a chance while you're still playing right now. It just gives you a chance in general. You do what?

[Shannon Sharpe]

The man has five sacks, and they lost by three scores.

[Sponsor Voice]

Hold on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So what happens when he gets one sack or two sacks?

[Ocho Cinco]

It gives you a chance to compete. Maybe not win, but it gives You a chance to compete.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Compete with who?

[Ocho Cinco]

One of the teams you play, Ohio State.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean what you compete with? Ocho.

[Ocho Cinco]

Hey Ocho.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Think. Ocho, think about this. Ocho. The man had five sacks. In the history of the game, nobody had lost by more than three.

[Ocho Cinco]

Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

He lost by three scores, not three points.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah, well we know that, we know why that is. We, we know, we know why that is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. Yeah.

[Ocho Cinco]

I'm not, not. I'm not gonna down them. I'm not gonna kick the team while they down. But eh. And you know, you know it would be one hell of a team. What if you had the Brown defense and the Bengals offense.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Will, let me ask you a question. How you gonna have a 55 million dollar quarterback, two 30 million dollar receivers, a 40 million dollar D lineman and a 20 plus million dollar quarter corner?

[Ocho Cinco]

Listen, that, that's, that's why it's a hypothetical. I'm just saying a team, a team like that, the Browns defense, Bengals offense, man, they might not lose a game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, you know, you'd have to draft that. The likelihood of you drafting something like.

[Ocho Cinco]

That, it's not, it's not likely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because think about it. In order for you to do that, that's two for. That's two number one overall draft picks. Denzel Ward was a top draft pick. What you call with a top draft pick. So you're never going to be in position to get that right. Because think about it. Miles Garrett was number one. Joe Burrow was number one. Chase was a top five pick. Ward was a top five pick. So how, how you gonna be in position to get that?

[Ocho Cinco]

You won't, you won't. Just listen. Just a little hypothetical. I'm just throwing that down.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I tell you what. I know Joe Burrow is going to get sick of this because he doesn't have a chance. He like it doesn't matter. I've got to play. I've got to play perfect. Yeah. And knowing that I can't play perfect, not for 17 weeks.

[Ocho Cinco]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I might have some games, Ocho, where I throw for 400 and no touchdowns and have fewer than. And excuse me. And no interceptions and have fewer than 10 incompletions.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And that still might not be good enough.

[Ocho Cinco]

Nope. You know what?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I've thrown for 404 touchdowns. And we still lose.

[Ocho Cinco]

Still lost. And matter of fact depending, I'm not sure how the rest of the season will go. But by the time we get to December, regardless of what our record is, whether we winning or losing, I don't Think Joe should come back.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I told you that. Y' all gonna be so far out of it. He. It doesn't make any sense for him to come back. Come back and do what?

[Ocho Cinco]

Don't, don't say we gonna be so far out of it. It's. It's still a chance. It's still a chance.

[Sponsor Voice]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, look, I mean, what's, what's, what's Mega million? I need to play. I need, I need to have my sister place a mega million. You gonna play powerball? It's like 900. You can't play. We can't play the lottery in Vegas casinos. I'm gonna.

[Ocho Cinco]

Hey, I'm gonna play for you, okay?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Play for me.

[Ocho Cinco]

I'm gonna play for you. And listen, when I win, when I, when I win, boy, we, boy, we gonna have a ball.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'll tell you what. Yeah, my sister called and say, well, Shannon, we won the lottery.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You have a new co host for about two weeks.

[Ocho Cinco]

Okay, two. Okay. Take, take your little two week break.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I take a little two week break. Take your little break. I'm getting on Qantas Air or Singapore Air? I've been watching the videos on Tick Tock, right? Give me one of my little, little old rules, don't you. They got a shower with everything in there, right? Yeah, they got five Michelin Star chef preparing, you know, you know all that stuff I can't even pronounce.

[Ocho Cinco]

Hold on, where's that again?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Emirates, Singapore Air Quantity.

[Ocho Cinco]

Okay, okay, okay, well, hold on. You can, you could do that now without the lottery though.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I can't, I can't take no break right now. I can't take no break right now.

[Ocho Cinco]

Okay, I got you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, but, but, but when vacation time do come, right?

[Ocho Cinco]

Well, we got, we got, we got. Hold on, no, ain't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We don't.

[Ocho Cinco]

We don't have no vacation time, though. Yeah, we do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, wait, when in June, man, that's.

[Ocho Cinco]

The time we supposed to be doing all the, all the activities.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, we go do all that before then.

[Ocho Cinco]

Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, yeah. Hey, what's the first one we doing? Okay, okay, okay. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, because, you know, I've been making some call to some people. They set it up like. Yeah, we'd be very interested.

[Ocho Cinco]

Okay, okay, well, listen, first off, I. Listen, I don't mean to. I wanna, I personally, I wanna go hunting. I just want to show you my skills with my pistol.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, we go to the gun, right? We go to the range for the, for the, for the pistols.

[Ocho Cinco]

No, I, oh, come on, man. You know, you know I got my license, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You not fit the dick chaining me.

[Ocho Cinco]

No, I won't shoot you. I won't shoot you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I know.

[Ocho Cinco]

No, we not even gonna be that close together.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I know.

[Ocho Cinco]

Cause you, you, you make too much noise.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You and one stall. I'm over here.

[Ocho Cinco]

I'm ready.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So, Eagles, look, the Eagles are going for it again. So I, I, I'm anxious to see because I think there's gonna be a lot of trail, a lot of, a lot of movement tomorrow. I think there's some teams that's going to try to get better because they're like, okay, we, some teams feel that they're one player. Maybe it's a receiver and maybe it's a, maybe it's a defensive player, maybe it's a D lineman or maybe it's a safety or something. But there are people that feel like they're, they're, they're a player away from getting over that hump. The Ravens acquired Titans pass rusher Draymond Jones in the trade. Raven sent a conditional 5th round draft pick that can potentially become a 4th round selection to the Titans that exchange for Jones. The 28 year old has four and a half sacks in nine games with the Titans this season. He's particularly productive as of late with all four and his half, four and a half sacks coming over the last four games. Jones also racked up 26 tackles and nine quarterback hits to go along with eight pressures this year. Oh, you like this move?

[Ocho Cinco]

I mean. Yeah, I do, I do. I don't, I don't think he liked it when he heard about the trade. I saw his tweet where he said the NFL is wild. But he did thank the, he thanked the Titans, you know, for, you know, his, his services and, and allowing him to play there. So listen, the Ravens, they are all in too. They're going to do everything they can to get back, to get back on track. They have a great chance to do it now that 8 is back and anything is possible. Anything is possible when Lamar Jackson is healthy and playing. Now all you have to do is hope that defense, which has been at the bottom of the pack as well, they've been at the bottom of the pack. They in the same conversation. When we talk about the Cowboys defense, you talk about the Bengals defense. They ain't, they ain't been no better. Now last week they played good, but they got to continue that.

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