Nightcap Hour 1: Joe Burrow aka BUBBLE BOY back at Practice + Shedeur Sanders QB1 vs Raiders + Bills Keon Coleman BENCHED AGAIN

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Nightcap Hour 1: Joe Burrow aka BUBBLE BOY Back at Practice + Shedeur Sanders QB1 vs Raiders + Bills Keon Coleman BENCHED AGAIN

Date: November 20, 2025
Host: Shannon Sharpe with Chad Ochocinco and Joe Johnson
Episode Focus: This episode centers on the latest NFL developments, with particular focus on Joe Burrow’s return to Bengals practice, Shedeur Sanders’ upcoming start at quarterback, and the benching of Bills receiver Keon Coleman. Shannon, Ocho, and Joe Johnson discuss athlete mentalities, team strategies, and share personal anecdotes, offering unfiltered takes and behind-the-scenes insights.

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Main Theme Overview

The Nightcap crew debates the competitive spirit of NFL athletes, examines the real-world impacts of injury and depth chart decisions, and breaks down the stories behind QB and WR position battles across the league. The trio brings humor, honesty, and firsthand experience to hot-button NFL topics, enriching the conversation with stories from their own playing days.

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Key Topics & Discussion Points

1. Joe Burrow's Return to Bengals Practice

Segment Starts: [06:36]

• Context: Joe Burrow has been designated a full participant for the first time since injuring his toe in Week 2. The Bengals are currently 3–7, with slim playoff hopes.

• Discussion:

  • Ocho insists that Burrow’s desire to compete is so strong, he’ll push to return regardless of the team's record.
    "Joe Burrow, being the competitor that he is, he will probably override any suggestions that he gets from doctors, anyone that sits in positions of power ... he’s coming back to play whether we losing or not. ... Whether we have a chance to get to the playoffs or he could ... want to finish the season off strong." — Chad Ochocinco [08:33]
  • Joe Johnson counters that sometimes, for the player's own good, it’s better to sit out the rest of the season, especially with lingering injuries:
    "Sometimes, Ocho, you know, we can get in our own way. The man been bogged down with injury. You know that toe gonna linger, bro." — Joe Johnson [15:38]
  • Shannon digs at Bengals’ futility:
    "Unless Joe Burrow come back as a combination of Miles Garrett and Lawrence Taylor, y'all ain't going nowhere. ... You gotta be available." — Shannon Sharpe [17:38] and [20:24]
  • Memorable moment: A playful argument about wrapping Burrow in bubble wrap to protect him results in jokes about his injury history.
    "Look what they bringing him out. Look at. Oh, look how they bringing it back, Joe." — Shannon [18:42]

• Personal Reflections: The conversation turns to the difference between individual and team motivation late in a losing season and the hard truth that durability is just as critical as talent.

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2. The Epic Struggles of Browns Quarterbacks & the Shedeur Sanders Opportunity

Segment Starts: [35:22]

• Stat Highlight: The Browns are 0-17 when starting rookie QBs since rejoining the NFL in 1999.
  "Let that sink in. A quarterback has never won their first NFL start in Cleveland going back to 1999. ... That's crazy work." — Shannon [35:55]; Ocho [35:55]
• Analysis:
  • The panel discusses the value of continuity at QB and coaching:
    “You can't cheat chemistry and continuity, man. You can't cheat that... It’s hard to catch rhythm and time.” — Joe Johnson [38:14] “Different head coaches, different offensive coordinators, different plays, continuously learning something new...this is what happens. Turmoil.” — Chad Ochocinco [37:48]
• Shedeur Sanders QB1 vs. Raiders:
  • Optimism for Sanders: Ocho and Joe agree it’s a rare and ideal opportunity to break the Browns’ QB curse.
  • Strategic talk: They note the importance of play-calling that fits Shedeur’s style, staying balanced and not forcing the team to become one-dimensional even if the defense is the team’s main strength.
  • Shannon’s Advice:
    "Shador just needs to be Shador. Get the ball out of your hands and don't take...it's okay to throw the ball out of bounds. You're not going to outrun [these] D-ends." — Shannon [43:07]
  • Building Confidence: Shannon and Ocho recount their own first starts and the powerful effect of successful rookie moments. "Once you got confidence, it’s a rap from that point on, and you just stack them one on top of another...it becomes consistent." — Chad Ochocinco [53:27]
    "From that...that gave me the confidence because I beat a Pro Bowler for my very first touchdown. So that gave me the confidence that I belong." — Shannon Sharpe [51:41]

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3. Keon Coleman Benched Again: The Harsh Reality for Rookies

Segment Starts: [64:12]

• News: Bills rookie WR Keon Coleman is a healthy scratch (inactive) for a second game in a row.
  "Keon is expected to sit tomorrow against the Texans. ... Coach Sean McDermott said he needs to see Keon show growth to get back on the field." — Shannon [65:10]
• Ocho’s Tough Love:
  "All it says is, Keon Coleman, young Bull...come on down here with me in the off season. ... You'll be too valuable for them to sit you down." — Chad Ochocinco [66:20]
• Shannon’s Key Lesson for Prospects:
  "Never let them see they can win without you...The day gonna end and when it ends, you better have catches, yards, and touchdowns." — Shannon [67:02] and [68:26]
  • Explains the importance of seizing every opportunity and how quickly a team can move on if you’re deemed replaceable.
• Valuable Quote:
  "There's something about that number one receiver that the number two can't do...You have to find that one niche. Just one, Joe. That's it. That's all it takes." — Chad Ochocinco [69:24]

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4. Broader NFL & Sports Media Takes

Segment Starts: [61:23]

• NFL's Media Landscape: Shannon discusses how TV rights and streaming services are fragmenting the fan experience, increasing the value of NFL franchises.
  • "With that new contract come up, you're gonna have to download some more. ... Netflix gonna want a package." — Shannon [61:25]
• The Business of Sports Betting & Fantasy:
  • The guys joke about how betting and fantasy football have made fans obsess over stats beyond just wins and losses.
  • "That's why I have to stop betting. I can't watch the game in peace." — Joe Johnson [62:48]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Availability vs. Talent:
  "You right, you are available. What good? What good is that? Man, I had the best feet, man. I had the best feet in the NFL. Yeah, but you played every other year." — Shannon Sharpe [20:32]

• On Cleveland’s QB Curse:
  "A quarterback has never won their first NFL start in Cleveland going back to 1999." — Shannon [35:55]

• Shannon Reminisces About His NFL Rookie Days:
  "From that...that gave me the confidence because I beat a Pro Bowler for my very first touchdown." — Shannon [51:41]

• On Teamwork and Individual Pride:
  "My grandma always told me, maybe in life you can only do one thing. You can control what you can control and do your part." — Chad Ochocinco [21:32]

• On the Importance of Seizing Every Opportunity:
  "Never let them see they can win without you." — Shannon Sharpe [67:02]

• Finding Your Unique Value:
  "You have to find that one niche. It got just...just one, Joe. That's it. That's all it takes." — Chad Ochocinco [69:24]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Joe Burrow’s Status & Debate: [06:36] - [21:20]
• Cleveland Browns' QB Struggles & Shedeur Sanders Opportunity: [35:22] - [46:53]
• First NFL/NBA Start Memories: [47:03] - [54:54]
• Rookie Lessons for Keon Coleman: [64:12] - [74:40]
• NFL Media/Broadcast Rights & Sports Betting: [61:03] - [62:52]

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Episode Highlights and Tone

• Energy: Informal, banter-filled, honest, and supportive, with plenty of light trash talk and deep football/life wisdom.
• Flow: Conversations move organically between stats, player mentality, funny memories, and actionable advice for young athletes.
• Chemistry: Shannon, Chad, and Joe blend bravado with vulnerability, regularly teasing one another about past games or personal quirks.

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For Listeners

Even if you missed the episode, this summary brings you the central arguments, the best exchanges, words to live by for any aspiring athlete, and a snapshot of why Nightcap’s chemistry is a fan favorite. Fans of behind-the-scenes NFL talk, lessons on career longevity, and honest perspectives on modern professional football shouldn’t miss this conversation.

Transcript

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Good.

[Chad Ochocinco]

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[Joe Johnson]

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[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Three and seven. There's only seven games to go. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Is there a scenario which you see if the bro. If the Bengals were to lose Sunday?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Is there a scenario where you see Joe being activated? Because if he's not activated by June, December 1st.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That means he can't. I mean basically he can't come off and he'd be on there for the rest of the season. Do you see a scenario where you guys lose this game and him come off injury reserve?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Honestly, I think. Regards. There is really no scenario in this matter or in this case whether we win or whether we lose. Joe Burrow, being the competitor that he is, he will probably override any suggestions that he gets from doctors, anyone that sits in positions of power in. In that. In that front office, and he's coming back to play, whether we losing or not. I. I just. Knowing Joe Burrow, the type of player he is, the type of competitor he is, whether we have a chance to. To. To get to the playoffs or he could have. Want to finish the season off strong and, And. And make somewhat a statement to show that he can still stay upright, he can. He can still be healthy, you know, regardless of circumstances, whether we going to the playoffs or not.

[Joe Johnson]

So you just. Hey, you. You just looking forward to them getting back out there on the field. You don't. You ain't really. You don't really think y' all gonna make no playoff? Make no.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, hey, Joe. Joe. Honestly, right now, I. I haven't really, really thought of the scenarios or the possibility of us making the playoffs at 3 or 7. I think it's very, very difficult, Joe. Honestly. Yeah, I think it's very difficult. But for me, I would love for Joe to come back. Not even playoff scenario, but just to finish the season off strong. Finish the season off strong. Get in, you know, get in there, do what you can.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Finish the season off strong.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hold on. Let me finish.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You about to be 3 and 8.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm not talking about. I'm not talking about from a team standpoint at this point, when we. When you're three and seven. I'm just saying individually, all players need to finish the season off strong from an individual standpoint, so they feel a little better about themselves going into next year, regardless of whether we. We did well or we. Whether we did well or we didn't as a team.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ain't no regardless. Ain't no irritation. Irregardless, you're not supposed to use air. And regardless. Regardless.

[Chad Ochocinco]

By myself, I said. I said, or.

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[Chad Ochocinco]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, y' all were terrible this year.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we were terrible.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You can't finish out on no good note.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay? I said. That's why I said individually. That's why the first thing I said. Even if. Even if we lose, which we won't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Which we probably won't, you going to lose. Ain't no. Take the earth out. Take the earth out.

[Chad Ochocinco]

We plan.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, first of all, hold on. Y' all was losing with Chase. Y' all losing with Chase. Yeah, he gone. Okay, now let's try again.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Like I said, someone some someone who has a little optimism. Joe, I'm talking. Joe, I'm gonna talk to you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I got you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm a little optimistic. Ain't no telling what's gonna happen. I know Chase is not playing this game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We got 11 weeks. I know what's gonna happen.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know what? I I hey, hey, Joe, I don't like. I don't like the way uncle's treating my bank.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, Ocho, I think y' all just need to let burn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho, can I have. Can I. You know what? I just want to take my last bite.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Take a last bite.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Take your time talking crazy. I want to go ahead and finish it, get some food on my stomach because I've been hungry. I had a couple of vests, I had to go to that. So I will get my last. My last right now.

[Chad Ochocinco]

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[Chad Ochocinco]

I turned off news altogether.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything.

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[Chad Ochocinco]

And listen, from an individual.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You and Joe got it there. Go ahead.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, from an individual standpoint, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Knowing how Burrow is, knowing the competitor.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That he is, he's a liar.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, he Joe, he coming back to play. Joe, regard regards to how we doing as a team.

[Joe Johnson]

But listen, hey, but sometimes Ocho, you know, we can get in our own way now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

The man been bogged down with Andrew. You know that toe gonna linger, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey Joe, I know, I know one thing. If Joe, if burrow ain't feeling 100, he not taking his ass out there on that field.

[Joe Johnson]

Well then he ain't gonna play. It ain't no way that toe gonna be 100, man. You listen.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, let the man.

[Joe Johnson]

Let the man heal up, and then y' all get another crack at it next year. If it don't happen next year, Ocho, you gotta blow that thing up.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay. Okay. I mean, I. I like that, Joe, but I. I, me, me, honestly, if Joe feels good and knowing. Knowing how he is, he ain't sitting on that sideline. Joe, if. If. If he can go and then think about it. 80, 85, 87. Even a 90, Joe Burrow, it is better than half the goddamn league. It's better than half the league out there even hobble. So I would like to see him go, honestly, just to finish it off strong, just. Just so you feel good about yourself in your head. And when the back of your head is like, well, God damn, I done. I didn't been hurt three out of six seasons, you know, and it ain't. Ain't been able to contribute to help my team out, man, knowing him, man, I'm finishing this. I'm finishing this shit off.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, look, I'm sure he probably does want to get back at. I mean, hell, he making a lot of money.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

But, Ocho, sometimes, man, you know, you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Got to get in.

[Joe Johnson]

Guys, wait, man, and just tell them, hey, look, we understand. Yeah, we know you want to play.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

But you probably need to sit the rest of this season. Now, we can get you right going into the next season. Hey, man, y' all out there just. Just playing football just to be finishing the season. That man get hurt again. Now, come on, now.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, I mean, you right.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm trying to help y', all, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm trying to Joe you, Joe, you right, But I'm. I'm telling you how the individual is. He's an animal. But he an animal, right? He an animal. I. I just. I just don't see any scenario where he can go sit down, especially. He was a full participant in practice today. He was a full participant in practice.

[Joe Johnson]

See what that thing feel like tomorrow.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Unless Joe Burrow come back as a combination of Miles Garrett and Lawrence Taylor, y' all ain't going nowhere. I don't give a damn what he come back at.

[Chad Ochocinco]

We understand that part, Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So he come back as Miles Gary and Lawrence Taylor with a little bigger Deion Sanders and Ray Lewis in there. So which one of them is he gonna be, right?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I mean, neither one. Neither one. You have to understand that that's not the part we talk about. You got to understand the type of individual Joe is. You got to understand.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I know what he is, okay? You don't become the number one overall pick without being a competitor, and that's. But you also don't become somebody without being realistic.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, I understand. I joke.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, have you seen your defense?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. That man ain't thinking about none of that. That man ain't thinking about none of that. That man is thinking about getting on that field, getting back healthy and trying to contribute and finish the season off on a high note for him individually, so he feels better about himself going into the off season. I'm telling you how he thinking. I know it. Because if. If he wasn't, it wouldn't be no. No goddamn reason to be a goddamn practice today. Oh, hey, Joe. He was.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look on your screen. Look on your screen. Oh, we got something showing for you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What's that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look what they bringing him out. Look at. Oh, look how they bringing it back, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Is that bubble wrap?

[Shannon Sharpe]

We got two. We got a choice. We ain't got no choice.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, y'.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Why y' all disrespecting my quarterback? Now, Don't. No, hold on. Hold on. Well, you. You over there laughing. He. He bet he better than Bo Nicks down there in Denver right now, and he ain't even. And Joe ain't even playing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We're not debating his skill set. We're not debating how good he actually is because. Excuse me. We know he's great. We're not debating that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I know, I know, but can you say help. Hey, but hold on. The joke's just flying. And the. He and the haha. And like. Like. He ain't that boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Don't. You don't think that fit? You just said the man been hurt three of his six years.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, I'm just speaking facts on what happened.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Acl his first year, he got hurt. The next year he went through. Then he went to the. Then he went to a Super Bowl. Then he got his wrist hurt. Now, he done missed 10. He missed the entire rest of that season, which was probably about eight, nine games. Now, this is week 12, so he's gonna miss, at bare minimum. A bare minimum, another 10 games, right?

[Chad Ochocinco]

What the hell happened to my camera?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You act like we put this around Brett Favre. Peyton. Come on, now.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, there you go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You talking about a guy that's been. He missed 10 games his rookie season, if not more. He. He's going to miss 10 games this season with his wrist injury, he missed probably another 10 games. So he's missed probably 30 games. Since he's been in the league.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right. I didn't need you to detail all that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The best part, the really great with Ocho, you know this, they got to be available.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You listen.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You right, you are available. What good? What good is that? Man, I had the best feet, man. I had the best feet in the NFL. Yeah, but you played every other year.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah, you. You right, you right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you played every Sunday.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I did, I did, I did. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. You should have seen my feet Jody thing right here, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, I see you cut a.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Rug or two right here, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, them boy got a mind of their own, boy. You hear me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

We already know what's gonna happen though, Joe, man. Oh, have 150 yard and two touchdowns, but they lost.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, that's a lie. That's a lie.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now, we don't do that. Oo don't do that.

[Joe Johnson]

As long as you saying as long as Osho got. He is. He was cool.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Nah, nah, I'm not saying that. I did everything.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, he wasn't happy about it. He just knew it was. Hey, he knew I'm gonna get mine. Unfortunately, I'm not in a situation where as a team, we're good enough to win more than we lose, Joe. So I gotta do. I gotta do my part.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And Joe, my grandma always told me, maybe in life you can only do one thing. You can control what you can control and do your part. So, Joe, I did my part. Now, collectively, as a team, I can't control the other 10 people. I can't control the 11 people that's on defense. But I know what I can control.

[Joe Johnson]

What's that, bro?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I control me, right? I can control them feet that had a mind of their own. Hey, Joe, I'm the only receiver. I'm the only receiver in the history. They didn't pay me to play receiver, Joe. They paid me for my feet alone. I'm just saying. I'm just being honest to you. It's in my contract. If you look, I show you a copy of my contract.

[Joe Johnson]

It.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It states we are paying him individually on what he's able to do with his feet. That's what they pay me for.

[Joe Johnson]

So you saying when the DB lined up in front of you, he had no chance?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Light up in front of who? You, man. The devil is a lie, Joe. Why ain't play that up there? You get a. Don't ever get too close to me. We will have a conversation because I'm gonna talk to you all the way through the route okay, huh? Yeah, man. I ain't Joe. I ain't play no game, Joe. Hey, boy, let's age Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He was a. He was in this. He was in this band. O joke is saying really, really good. But they ain't have no number one hits because they would let him sing lead. So when they let him saying Lee or they had more people like Ocho in the band, they'd have been really, really good. So in other words, he really needed to play an individual sport where he could just rely on himself. Because when you play football, you really got to rely on the 10 guys on offense, the 11 guys on defense, and the level of guy that they tried out there every time on special team. OO did his thing, but like he said, he could only do he. He couldn't tackle nobody. He couldn't get no picks, couldn't sack the quarterback.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, Joe, we. We had. We had some and then they didn't get.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They got really good. Once they got. They got caught. Well, Kitten wasn't bad. Kidnapped for 4, 000. Kidna wasn't no bad quarterback. But they was bad enough that they got the. They got. Ended up getting Carson Palmer with the number one overall pick. And then once Carson got in there, they kind of took off from there.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, hey, Joe, we were good, man.

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[Chad Ochocinco]

Listen, we. We had. We had some. We had some ups and downs.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hold on, let that. Look, I don't get. I don't pat you on the back now. Yeah, I was pat you on the back. I wasn't trying to beat. Dust out your clothes. Yeah, he wanted me to beat dust out of clothes now.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Damn, I appreciate it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why would you leave it at that? Man, Ocho was really good. Ocho did his thing.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I was nice. Now, you know, I would love something now. A little something to watch, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, Joe. Hey, you know. Hey, Joe. I could fill up a stadium by myself, Joe. I would like that.

[Joe Johnson]

You gonna put on the show now?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah, you're gonna get that. You gonna get that. Whether I was playing home away. I'mma fear your stadium up and see.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what I need to see. I need to be. I need to be a couple of years. A couple of years younger.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause he. I'd have been talking to him on the sideline, talking right outta the game. Who un.

[Chad Ochocinco]

How you gonna take my script and try to use it on me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho, you do realize I was talking before you was born.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Unk. What do you know where I'm from? Do you know where I'm from. Do you understand? We start in peewee. Peewee. Optimus. That talking start at four years old. You weren't doing that when you was four. You. When you was in four, you was out there in the country, you know, picking watermelon. You weren't talking like this. I came out the womb talking. Yeah. This what I do. Hey, Joe. I'm telling you, Joe, when you put me in the right environment, boy, I.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Say we talked it right out of this game. Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I'm saying y' all ain't never play against each other.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, Joe, I spanked him. He was younger than me.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It don't matter. Joe. I spanked him when we played him. Every time. Joe, I showed up to the party.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That I was on, okay, Joe, you was on.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You was on the team.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What you talking about, Joe? We already said you had 30 something yards. Ooh, that's all. That's what you mean, that's all?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, I mean, because I'm. I'm just saying I'm really not a 30 yard receiver, so the fact that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I only had 30 when you. When and when you scored against the Broncos, Joe, I. I mean, oo. I was already at the game. The game was over. Hold on.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You got. Whoa, whoa. Do you know you not f. To do that? Oh, no, the devil is alive because you've been out the game now for 20 some years, and every time the Bron play.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, you talking about I. When. The game that you played when I was with the Broncos.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And the game you scored on, you scored with like 20 seconds. The game was over. I was on the sideline drinking Kool Aid bellies.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, hold on. Wait a minute.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, hey, Unk. Hey, hey, hey, Joe. I think Unk might got amnesia, because if I. If I recall, in 2005 against the Denver Broncos, Monday Night Football, I went crazy. If I'm not mistaken, I retired.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I was in the boot. I was in. I was sitting at a desk.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What does that have to do. You just said I only scored against.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The Broncos two decades.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You just said I only scored in the Broncos in the last 30 seconds. That's not what I recall.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, no. I said when I was playing on the Broncos.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay, okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know what. What you did after I left. Yeah, but I'm saying I do know you scored with like 35, 40 seconds left in the ball game. I done got my shoes off. I got on flip flops. Okay, okay.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It sounds good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I got on sound. I got on shower shoes. On the sideline. We, I, I done cut my tape off and everything. Yeah, and you still in there playing.

[Joe Johnson]

When you scored at the end, you were still.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, look it up.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, Joe, look it up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think it was either 2002, 2003.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look it up. Joe, I ain't gonna lie to you. I remember like it was yesterday. He scored. We don't beat the. We beating the brakes off him, and then he gonna try to celebrate.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I never. Hey, Joe. One thing I never do, I was always self. Aware. I was always self.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Aware.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You heard me, Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, you weren't self aware with that one. Because I don't know why. Why? I don't know why you scored a touchdown and want to celebrate.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hold on, I'm telling you how it was. I never do that. Hey, Joe, Unless we, unless we scoring first or I'm scoring to tie, I'd never celebrate if I was scoring, we were losing. Never. Never.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That.

[Joe Johnson]

That's.

[Chad Ochocinco]

To me, that's a lack of self awareness. And to me and myself, I, I look crazy because why the hell am I celebrating? There's nothing to celebrate for. And we not winning the game or actually tying the game. So that's something I always kept in the back.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, you wouldn't win no game with me. But I'm just saying, was it 03 or 02? I'm trying to think. It might have been 02.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Nah, O2. I gave y' all that work. That's all I know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

03. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Get it right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Ash, pull up the receipts.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ash, When did. Hold up. When did he score that touchdown? What? He. When did he score that touchdown?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah. Hey, hey, Joe. You see, you see Ash put out the receipt. Joe, I was that boy that business.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But see what. Hold on. The score was 30 to 10. He. Okay. The score was 30 to 3. Empty calories. He done did all that hard work. He got some cardio in the first four and a half. Three and a half.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Why didn't you just say I was giving y' all that work? You just heard Ashley. I would give you work.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You caught a 23 yard touchdown. The score was 30 to 3. We don't took our starters out. We ain't getting nobody hurt.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Nope, the starters weren't out the game. They weren't at the game. Because what you that. You're not gonna put no backups on me? Not. No. No, you're not. No, you're not. I think the person, if I'm not mistaken, that was coming to me, he wore 24. He wore 24 and he beat the whole game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who? Delta O'. Neal?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Nah. No, no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Champ wasn't there when I was there. Oo, okay. Came out, I was gone. Oh, who was.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Who was it? Who was it then?

[Shannon Sharpe]

It was Delta o'. Neal.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, he got that work, too, who.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ended up playing with you in Cincinnati, if I'm not mistaken.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And he got that work. Anybody with a two in a number got that work for years straight. Except Reevis. Except Reavis.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm gonna give him his credit, I think. If I'm not mistaken. Who. Who you giving credit to?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, Reavis. That's it. That's it. And listen, hey, Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, no, no, no, no. We didn't have Reavers.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, no, no. I'm just saying. I was telling Joe, anybody with a two as they first number got that work for 11, 12 years straight. Joe, I seen Reavis. Oh, man, it was like a bad relationship that never turned out right. You hear me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

How you get to Rebus Island? Couldn't get off there, huh? Let me find out. You was Gilligan. No, I had Gilligan. He was.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, Joe, I got.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Coming to rescue Gilligan, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I got stuck. Joe. I get. I ain't have my passport.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He had defense like that, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. I mean, listen. Hey, Joe, he was nice, Joe, he was nice. He was nice. He was nice. All right. I'm not gonna say it like I talk Craig, I talk cray, I talk cash. But one thing I'm do, boy, when it comes to defense, I'm gonna get up with it, give him his credit. And every time I see him, I give him his flowers.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That year he had a year, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, Joe, everybody got it, Joe. That 2009 season, Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That was. That was an historic run that will never be repeated. Never be. Every week he traveled with number one. I don't care. Hey, Coach, I got it. Don't even worry about this.

[Joe Johnson]

And nobody.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nope.

[Joe Johnson]

Nobody will get a hundred.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No.

[Chad Ochocinco]

A hundred.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He shut down Megatron. He shut down to. He shut down. Yeah. Everybody.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Johnson, Steve Smith, Andre Johnson. Nobody got over 50, boy. There's one person. There's one person who consistently was able to give reason that give Reevis that business and give him problems, and that was Stevie Johnson.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Steven Johnson.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Played. Played in Buffalo. Hey, Joe. Stevie was about six fold and moved like he was five feet tall. I mean, as far his lateral movement and as quick you had to be.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Quick to give him problems. You couldn't be a big receiver and be physical with him because that ain't played into his hands. Then you had to be quick. You had to be twitchy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, if you weren't twitchy.

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[Chad Ochocinco]

I turned off news altogether.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything.

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It's the rage bait.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It feels like it's trying to divide people.

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[Chad Ochocinco]

It's a rap.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You had hell on your hands if you weren't twitchy. The Browns quarterback. Wow. The Browns quarterbacks are 0 and 17 and their first career starts since the team rejoined the NFL. This goes back to 1999. Let that sink in. A quarterback has never won their first NFL start in Cleveland going back to 1999. So basically, that's 27 years.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's crazy work.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look at these names. From Tim Couch to Spurgeon win. Tom Brady. Still mad about that. Spurgeon win. Luke McCown, Charlie Fry, Derrick Anderson, Brady Quinn, Colt McCoy, Brandon Whedon, Thad Lewis, Johnny Manzer, Connor Shaw, Cody Kessler, Deshawn Kaiser, Kevin Hogan, Baker Mayfield, Dorian Thompson, Robinson and Dylan Gabriel.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, that, that, that's crazy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, I think, hey, that's why maybe it's just. Maybe they just have bad luck in general. Maybe just organizational bad luck. Because to, to not have had a quarterback and to have. I mean, they've had some success, but it was short lived. It was short lived that they're still in search of one that they can call their franchise quarterback. And that's why they were so, so eager to do what they did with Deshaun Watson. Because look what they had to deal with for so long. This is what they've had to deal with for so long. That's why they, they were willing to throw whatever it was at Deshaun Watson because he understood the success that he had before. You know, those issues arose. And even after that rose, we still see the problem because we know what we getting.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You see the problem. Dojo and Ocho. Look at. Look at the years. 99, they had a. They had what? Had a starter. 2000, they had a different starter. 04, a different starter. 05, a different starter. 06, a different starter. 08, a different. You see a reoccurring theme, Ocho?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Joe, you see the reoccurring theme? Yeah. No continuity.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You ain't just finna keep trying quarterbacks out there year after year and think you gonna win.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Think about it. 12 different quarterback, 14 different quarterback. 14 different quarterback. I mean, some of these in the same season. 16 Cody Kessler, 17 DeShawn Kaiser, 17 Kevin Hogan, 18 Baker Mayfield.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, also not crazy. And you know what else too, Joe? And un. Not only different quarterbacks, different head coaches, different officer coordinators, different plays, having to continuously learn something new or learn a new system and not getting, like UNC said, any continuity. You know, as. As offense. This is what happens. This is what happens. It's always something new. So no one's ever to get acclimated and comfortable to one thing, and this is what it will always look like. Turmoil.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, I agree. You can't cheat chemistry and continuity, man. You can't cheat that. You know what I mean? If you're coming in every year with a different quarterback or a different oc, a different head coach, I mean, different system. Yeah, it's. It's a different system. So it's hard to catch rhythm and time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, that.

[Joe Johnson]

That stuff takes a while, but I can see why they ain't no. Why ain't no quarterback, no one, no game one. That's crazy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Well, I know one thing. Shedeur, he gets his chance to start. This is the opportunity he's been waiting on. You know, there's no. There's no more excuses.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And he couldn't pick the better team to start against.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Listen, you have a chance to make history. You have a chance to make history and. And change the narrative, you know, and if things go well. Yeah, talk gonna be good. If things don't go well, we gonna let it be known. We gonna be. I'm. Especially me. I've gotten really good at this, Uncle Joe. I've gotten really good at being critical when things. When people. When people aren't playing well.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, we have.

[Chad Ochocinco]

We.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You gotta. We gotta call. We got to talk about what we see.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm not sugarcoating, but if you go out there. If you go out there and it up, you know, all excuses are out the window. You had a week to prepare. You had a week to get acclimated with the offense, and you got.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you playing against the Raiders.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's just block 98 if y' all make a mistake. Block 98.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Hey, matter of fact, you can. You can double and ch. You can scheme him all game. You can scheme a way to stop 98 all game. Chip him, double him, do whatever you need to do to give Shador time to be able to do what he does best, throw the ball. Shouldn't be no goddamn excuses because, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

They threw him in against the Ravens. Them, boy fighting for their lives over there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, I think the thing is. And plus, he gets an opportunity. I think the biggest thing Joe and Oo, he gives us an opportunity to work with those guys so he'll understand how they get in and out of breaks. He'll understand, you know, the, The. The. The tempo and the speed in which they run their routes, because that's something that you can't. You need to be in there to see. Because one guy, he might takes a while. He might not get his head around. Ocho was a guy that got his head around real quick.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So, you know, hey, I could put this ball out there before he come out his break. I know as soon Ocho snapping his head around.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Other guys like, bro, the ball will hit you inside your damn head if you don't get your head around. Now you got to get in and out of those breaks. And I thought he threw the ball with some time. Yeah, he missed some throws. There was a couple of shallow crosses that he probably should have took, but he's a guy that wants to push the ball down the field.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Their problem was they were unwilling to take chances. Gabriel was unwilling to take chances and push the ball down the field. It's hard for you to methodically. 3 yards here, 2 yards there, 5 yards here, 5 yards, 1 yard. It's hard to methodically go down the field and win games without at some point in time taking a chance to put the ball down the field. It's just. It's just hard to just do that every single down in and down out. They got to have some consistency. Obviously, they can't fall behind and take their new. And take the running game completely away. But as long as they can keep the game, I'm able to run some. I can play action off of that. Ocho give him some stuff where I get down flat. Hey, I get a flat route, I get an over route, I get a comeback. You know, give him stuff like that. Stuff that's gonna allow him to get the ball out of. Out of his hands real quick at times. And there are other times that you're gonna have to call plates specifically so he can push the ball down the field. Right. And I think they, they'll have some success. Look, what's it called? Might. Might have another four or five sack game. Miles. Miles Garrett. M. Miles Garrett. That offensive line. Did you see the offensive line? You see what the Cowboys do? The Cowboys ain't got two players combined that's good as Miles Garrett, let alone one.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, you right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And he ate. So I mean, Quinny Williams had a second half. Odiggy Zoo had two. I mean, Kenny Clark, everybody, everybody was getting it on action.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, Kenny.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So I could just imagine.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, you know what? And if you think about it, as good as the. The defense is, this just might be the game. This just might be the game where that. With that, that 0:17 losing streak for quarterback starting in their first time, it might be snap the other. There's a good chance that if he protects the ball and knowing the defense, the defense will get the ball back for him many of times on Sunday. It's a good chance. Hey, hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, defense. The defense should create some great field position for him. Yes. Because Gino is prime Gino lately. I mean, Gino is really high up on turning the ball over. Now, I don't know if he's leading the league in obsession, but he damn close put it like this. I don't know if he leading the room, Ocho, but he at the table where the guy that's leading an interception. Gino at the table having a conversation with him. You know, I'm right behind you. I'm probably gonna tie you up this week, so don't get too comfortable holding that lead. Yeah, Shador just needs to be Shador. Like I said, get the ball out of your hands and don't take. Listen, Shador, I understand like, you know, you looking to make the big play, but it's okay to throw the ball out of bounds. You're not going to outrun. You weren't blessed with your dad's speed. He weren't so that bellying back. You're not going to outrun these DNS. You're not. You're not. All you're going to do if you're a field goal range, you're going to take your team out of field Goal range. Make it manageable. Let it. If you take a sack, take a sack on second down, Ocho, now you put yourself further behind the sticks on third downs. Yeah, they need to stay in front of the sticks. And that's the thing that you want, like young quarterbacks, Joe. You want them to stay in front of the sticks. You want it. 2nd and 5, 2nd and 6. You wanted 31 to 3, 30 at the bare maximum, 3rd and 5, you start getting 3rd, 8 to 10, 12, 13. You asking for trouble.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I believe in him, man. I think he gonna do. I think he's gonna do pretty well this weekend considering, you know, with him having a week with the ones, right. The number ones. He hadn't done that all year, so. And I think he just. No, he's just a young, confident dude, bro. I feel like he, he knows this is his moment, and I feel like he gonna step up and shine.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He waited, he waited a long time, what, 12 weeks to get his opportunity. It didn't seem like it was going to come. Yeah, but you know, hey, now the opportunity is here.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

My brother said, hey, man, I ain't getting no run, man. They ain't give if. Hey, John Elway gonna call your number now.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Just make sure when he call your number, you pick the phone up.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You ready?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You go.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You ready?

[Joe Johnson]

You go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. It took him 12 weeks for him to call his line count, call his number, door, answer the phone. Yeah, answer the phone.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It's gonna be a good one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Shador spoke about getting first team reps. I'm truly excited for that, knowing that I have a piece of the offense to say so and how things fit my eye in place and the players exactly where they need to be. Seeing how that come in and out of route, seeing the structure of the old lineman, seeing their set, just having a feeling. I'm more of a field type of a person, so that's how I learned. That's how I do everything. I'm not just a, I'm a watch it. It's just going to happen. No, I got to be out there, feel it. I got to move around. I like so many details that it takes for me to feel my best and play my best. I'm doing everything in my power, and this team's doing everything in their power to help me get prepared. Yeah. Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What you think the stat, what you think his stat's gonna be?

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know, what I, I, I, I don't want to say. I don't want to jinx it. I don't want to jinx it. I just know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't want to jinx it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, I don't want to jinx it. I just know that Stefanski understands what Shador strengths are going to be. He gonna. He's gonna understand what Shador does well. So the game plan going to that game is going to be dedicated and geared towards what he's able to do. Well, for one that's getting the ball down the goddamn field, having a healthy balance of being able to run the ball. So play action works as well. When they do want to throw.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And make sure they do. They cannot under any circumstances be one dimensional. They can't be one dimensional. So a healthy balance is a run, a healthy balance of the pass. And once that young bull get in the rhythm and get any kind of confidence, Joe, man. Shh.

[Joe Johnson]

I think, I think that comes with the prep, you know, throughout the week.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

You know, especially with the ones getting that. Getting that under your belt, that's going to create a lot of confidence for the young boy, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

You know, going into the game and I think that's gonna help him, Uncle Nocho.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. And the play. Gol. The play call is gonna look completely different because you got a quarterback that can do something different that couldn't. Gonna look completely different.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oo you remember, Joe, you remember your first start? Oho, what you remember about your first start?

[Chad Ochocinco]

San Diego Chargers. San Diego Chargers. In. In San Diego, obviously, when they had the baseball field. Rodney. Rodney. Yeah. Yep. Rodney Harrison Jr. Seow. Ryan McNeil who. Who went to the m. Went to, um. Played defensive back.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Went to the U. Yep.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I scored my first touchdown on Ryan McNeil in the corner of the end zone. And the scar is still there because I landed on the. On. I don't. I don't know if it was third base or a home plate. And skinned up the infield. Yeah, infinity. And skinned up. My whole. My whole arm is still there. It's still there. That's. That's how deep. That's how deep that cherry was. Yeah, that was dope. That was my first. That was my first start.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Joe, you remember your first start?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, my first start was obviously it was my rookie year. It was second game of the season, Uncle Ocho. I was playing behind Eric Williams, who was a small four for the Boston Celtics at the time. Yeah, well, he had. He injured his knee in the first game, so second game of the season, Coach was like, we gonna start you at the two. It was against the Milwaukee Bucks With Ray Allen, Sam Cassell, Big dog. Oh, man, I came out there and had a time. You hear me? I put about 23, okay? Yeah. Young rookie. I wasn't. I wasn't but 20 years old out there, man. Out there getting to it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You hear me? Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You dropped a little 20 for a little easy 20 piece on them.

[Joe Johnson]

What?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, look.

[Joe Johnson]

See, all you need, especially when you young like that is, is to see those type of performances, just to let you know. Okay?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I can do it right here.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I can do this.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah. And next thing you know, boy, you be putting on a show for real.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I like it, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I just. I just kept saying, man. Man, they need to put me in. They need to put me. I'll be saying, okay, Joe, man, he put me in. I can make some plays. I can make some plays.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Lo and behold, they put you in. We're getting ready to play the Chiefs. We getting ready to play the Chiefs. Hey, the Chiefs got Albert Lewis. They got Kevin Ross. They got Daron Cherry. They got Martin Bayless. They got Neil Smith, Derek Thomas.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Big Joe Phillips. Oh, man, they got Percy Snow.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I say, Dan Salamore Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I say. I say, put me in. Not against them. Let me somebody that ain't them. They got. They got, like, the number one, number two defense in all football. So I'm like, yeah, we gonna. We gonna put you. We gonna. We're gonna start you and we're gonna put you in. I said, oh, oh, okay. I said, so, you know. I'm like, so what I'm gonna do? So they say, hey, want you to line up outside.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And we get into the. We get into, like, five. Inside the five or the inside. We gonna throw you a fade. I like, Albert Lewis went to the Pro Bowl. Kevin Ross went to the Pro Bowl. So you mean to tell me y' all gonna put a rookie in and say, go run a fade on one of them?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Just jump up over the top of him. Y' all say that like that's easy, like.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, hold on. What happened?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't know no better. I was like, oh. Oh, Joe. So I. Hey, I told my brother, but your boy gonna get the game. They gotta play for your boy. What it called? Hey, they say jump ball. Jump ball. You know what I'm saying? Oh, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, Joe. I get out there, they call it rock. Cause he has. He was compact, but he was strong. He got his hands on you. You call hell getting off him.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But anyway, they didn't they didn't expect me to shake him like I did.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because they thought it was gonna be physical. And so just throw a jump ball. Joe. How about I beat him off the ball clean? I said, okay, he gonna lay it on the top.

[Odoo Advertiser]

I was kidding.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ah, got him.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He back. Should it. Oh. So I really had to jump up over the top of. To get it. I said, did you get it? I got it. Oh, you caught it. I got it. I caught it. Yeah. Hey, hey, hey. I walk into. Oh, oh, Joe. I walk into the line. I said, lord, if you help me catch this ball, you ain't gotta let me catch no more. My whole career, I don't make promise.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, listen. Hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey.

[Joe Johnson]

Cause ain't nothing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I caught it, though. I caught it. I caught it, Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And from that. That gave me the confidence because I beat a Pro Bowler.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

For my very first touchdown. So that gave me the confidence that I belong.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And I'm like. And I remember getting back, and I remember going to the side because everybody. Everybody came like, man, make a good job. Good. That's where they make a play. And seven. John told me, say, see, that's like, you. Yeah, you can do that. I can do that. Yeah, I can do that. Yeah. I'm him. Yeah, I can do that. Yeah, that's me. Wow. I don't know why y' all surprised. I'm surprised, too. Hey, I try to play it cool. Yeah. Hey, I was so good. It's. Hey, get in there for. They throw me a short cross. Guy hit me in the back. I fumble it. I know, I know. I. I can't have no prosperity. I was gonna be able to have no prosperity, but then they put me back in. They put me back in. Hey, you just gotta hold on to the ball. They go, it's gonna happen quick.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, I run down. I run a goalball against cover two. Yeah, man. I'm talking about, like, soon as the ball hit my hands, you got to hit me in the back. I held on to it, though.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I held on to it, though.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay, okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And threw a. Yeah, that was. That was like, man, I. I really. I really. And. And come to find out, I go back and listen to the. The TV version of it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And they. And the. The announcer said, coach Reeves is really high on this kid. Think this kid has a lot of potential.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, I got potential.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, one thing. Hey, Joe. I mean, Joe and Unc and those in the chat that have played sports One thing about it, when you're not sure yourself, you know, and even if you are confident and you go out there and you perform well and whatever it is that you do, whatever Whatever your respective craft may be, and you make a play or you do something good and then you do it again, and you start to build that confidence. Once you got confidence, it's a rap. It's a rap from that point on, and you just stack them one on top of another, and at some point, it just becomes. It becomes natural. It becomes consistent.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah. Hey, look, as a rookie, man, you play so hard, bro. I'm talking about so hard. Cause listen, I just remember being out there on the court thinking, like, man, I'm out here with. Playing against Michael Jordan, Tracy McGrady, Vince Carter. I'm playing with Antoine Walker, Paul Pierce. Like, I remember being in so much of awe that I was like, I'm telling y', all, bro, I couldn't really.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Sleep as a rookie.

[Joe Johnson]

Like, I used to be so geeked for the moment. Like, I couldn't wait. I couldn't wait. So you just want to play hard as crap. Because I never wanted coach to have a reason to take me out the game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't care what it was.

[Joe Johnson]

I was out there playing hard as I don't know and trying to get as many deflections as I can.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hands everywhere.

[Joe Johnson]

I ain't lying.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Ah, that's funny.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, it's just like when you see. Man, I remember the first time we played in Denver was a preseason game. We played the 49ers. Joe Montana, Steve Young, Jerry Rice, Roger Craig, John. All them just. I'm like, damn, I'm really on the field. I'm really in the NFL. That's them. That's Jerry. I'm looking at Jerry like, that's Joe Montana. Yeah, that's Ronnie.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Like, I caught a touchdown in the preseason Ocho and then hit the hammer on them.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hold on. You were dancing in the preseason?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Boy, look at here. I'm from an hbcu. I just called touchdown on the defendant, super bowl champ. I was going crazy. Yeah, man, I was, man. I was. And it was televised. It was a Monday night game. It was televised. Oh, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, they saw me. Everybody in Savannah State, they. I know they watching. My hometown Glenville, they watch it.

[Joe Johnson]

I already know, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I show. Man, I told y'.

[Joe Johnson]

All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I know sharp.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man, I told y' all sharp like that, man, I bet. I was so happy, man, I called. I bet my. My cell phone bill probably $700, cuz. You know, back then, cell phone bill, they, they charge you about a minute. It was like $3aminute, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It was like $3,4aminute. I mean, a phone bill.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, quick.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ha. That had that big old brick too. I don't know why I had a brick, bro. I was a seventh round draft picking 64, 000. I got a cell phone bill.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah, the Motorola. The Motorola 888-something- know you talk about.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, that big brick. Yeah, they had the big brick. Hey, one that you had. You had the pouch. You had to care. You had to carry like a house with it.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You carry it on your person. You could. Yeah. And then they came with the portable. What's up, Joe? What was it?

[Joe Johnson]

Was it, was it free on the weekends? Could you call?

[Shannon Sharpe]

That came later. At first it wasn't like that. You had to pay and it was all like, if you go out of the area. It was Roman charges.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, yeah, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The Roman charges, man, that thing be about.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It be crazy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't know. Hey, let me tell you, I didn't know nothing about the Roman chart. I just. Hey, they didn't explain it to you back then? Oh, they don't explain it to you now? That this what you get. And if you go over your data, you got to pay extra. They didn't explain it.

[Odoo Advertiser]

Phone.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This is what it costs, blah, blah blah. I ain't know nothing about Roman. I ain't know. If you go out of the thing, Roman was extra like $6 and you get a call, I'm big balling ocho. I'm taking my phone on the road.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You got money? What? Hey, listen, I forgot, I forgot. I forgot what service provider.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I have no money.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, I forgot what service provider I was with Joe and Unc. But I understood what I was with too, okay? I, I, I had him explain to me about the minutes. And they said, we, if, if you use a certain amount of minutes and you hold on to it, you don't use your phone that much this month, the minutes gonna roll over and they.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Roll over, roll over to the next month.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I say, yeah, yeah. So I'm gonna make sure I don't go over a certain amount of minutes. So I got a little bit extra going to the next month. Joe. What? Hey, there was some days back then, boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, it don't work like that. You better burn through the minutes so quick.

[Joe Johnson]

Quick, man. What?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You burn through the minute so quick, and then once they brought that Weekend that after what? After seven o'?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Clock? Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And weekend free. Hey, I call. Hey, I call y' all at 705. Hey, you get no call during the day.

[Chad Ochocinco]

On the phone. On the phone all night long.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, I call you when it's free. And then the weekend. Oh, you blurring that thing up. Hey, I'm.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, today get hot on the side of your head.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah, hold on. And Joe. Hey, Joe don't have no girlfriend though. On the weekend, y' all be on the phone. You be on the phone all day, all night.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hold on.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You wake up, the phone's sitting on your chest. Hello? Are you, you still there? Yeah, well, hey, there was some days. Hey, Joe, I know you did that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You ain't gonna lie.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on now.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, on the phone all night long and don't be talking about nothing.

[Joe Johnson]

Ain't talking about nothing.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Six, seven hours straight, man, they made the phone.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This phones got smaller and they had a little clip that you have on your. On your side like that. Startech.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And the sidekick too. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, man. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, them some good memories.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let me ask you this, Joe and Ocho, which game do you think will have the most views? Browns, Raiders or Eagles? Cowboys 8?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Browns Raiders, probably Browns Raiders. I mean there's a lot of people.

[Joe Johnson]

Man, it's a lot of people looking forward to seeing shadow play.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, they are. It's in the early window. So they're not going head to head. They're not really going head to head.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because the, the Fox. The Fox game, the Cowboys, Eagles, I think, if I'm not mistaken.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Is that 425.

[Shannon Sharpe]

425, right. And so what's going that 105 window? Yeah, so all the Cowboys, man. Hey, did you see all those cowboy fans Monday night at that stadium, Ojo?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I did.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did you see all those cowboy fans? Yeah, I flew out. We flew out. Jordan and I flew out on Tuesday morning.

[Joe Johnson]

Uh huh.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Joe Ocho. I was like, hold on. They fans weren't going to Dallas, they flying to Atlanta. So I could just imagine the people going back to Dallas. I can imagine the people going elsewhere because there was so many cowboy fans in that, in that airport. So many cowboy fans. I'm talking about cowboy hats, cowboy boots, that jersey, CD jersey. I'm like, oh my goodness.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, people traveling, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They travel. Hey, hey, the Steelers, hey, the Steelers.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They'Re both in the late. Oh, actually they both, they moved them. The Colts chief is in the early window, so the Colts chief is the one O' clock game. And now the Browns Raiders and the Cowboys Eagle are both in the same. In the same 425 window. Oh, it's gonna be interesting.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I still, I still think the Browns and Raiders gonna have the most views.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And the way they do that. See, you can't get what you call them like, like sometimes you can have. They have. Okay, you can watch this game. This game, this game, this game. They're not gonna do it with these two games.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You gotta pick one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You gotta pick one.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, look, why it's so hard to watch the game now, man? You got to download eight apps.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You sure do. Guess what, Joe? Hey, guess what? With that new contract come up, you're gonna have a download some more.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Netflix gonna want a package. That's how they get it. That, that's how these franchise. You see all these franchises, how they skyrocket in prices. I mean, Broncos owner just. He. He just bought the Broncos for four and a half million. Now they worth 6.8 billion. In five, six years, they've increased $2.3 billion. The Cowboys worth what, 11, 12, 13 billion. Jerry bought it for 103,540 million. Hey, that's why. Because the revenue there's not. Look, there are a lot of sports. They, there's baseball, there's basketball, but don't nothing move the needle in North America. Like, like NFL football.

[Joe Johnson]

Now folk love some football.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Especially two reasons, fantasy and sports betting. Because you watch it intently. Are they gonna cover OO and then the. Now the prop bets, man, sometimes you don't even care about the game. Man, I just want to see a CD get six catches. I didn't want to see a CD get 75 yard. I want to see what Chase, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, that's why I had.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what I care about. I try to get these props.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, look, Uncle Ocho, that's why I have to stop betting. I can't watch the game in peace.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because I got, I got my hit.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm like, man, and look, it seemed like when you watching it intensely like that, right? You ain't never gonna hit. But boy, let you mess around, make a bed and end up falling asleep or something. Boy, you be right on the number. Every time I had to stop watching.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's how they do when you play. When you play the cash three of the cat. Hey, I know you happy. Happy about what? I know you happy. I know you know. Your birthday came. I said, what? What birthday? That's my sister called me. Tell me. Yeah, I Know you had. Probably had it. I said, had what? Your birthday. I said, huh, my birthday. Hit 0626. Cash fold. You know what I'm saying? Oh, I had a straight and straight box.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look cool. A little cool. 12, 500. 12, 500. I hit.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did the cash. 3. My aunt's birthday. 7 11. Yeah, I played it. I had it 10 times. Straight it came. That's 5,000. They tried to run it back past me, Joe, the next day. Cause I played it that evening on Sunday. And I played again. Broke off. But you know what? Y' all old folks. Thank y' all sleep. Y' all gonna try to run it back again. Hey, guess what? They came. Brought it right back. Brought it right back, Joe. And guess what? I was sitting on it again. Another 5,000. Yeah, Joe, they can't get on.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Matter of fact, you know what? I'm gonna do that now. You just gave me an idea. You know, I'm gonna play my mom. I'll play my grandma and my mama birthdays. I'm gonna play my grandma and my mama birthdays. Probably play. You know, maybe do the year they were born. Yeah, I'm gonna play out. I don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's. No, that's normally. Yeah, that's normally what I do. You play your bird. If you play it, you know, you can play it straight. Combo, straight box. I played. I played it. I played it straight. I had it two times straight. And one time, combo. Combo, back. Combo. Probably cost you $2 because it's extra. Because now any way it come, those numbers come, it become 6, 6, 2, 0. It could come 6, 6, oh, 2, any combination, and you'll get, you know, half of what you normally would get. So. Oh, yeah, I'll hit it. I hit a lick on it. Ocho. Bill's wide receiver, Keon Coleman, is reportedly likely to be inactive for the second consecutive game. Keon is expected to sit tomorrow against Texans, according to Eric Turner of COVID 1. Earlier in the week, coach Sean McDermott said he needs to see Keon show growth to get back on the field. On Thursday night against the Texans, the Bills are likely to go with Joshua Palmer and Elijah Moore, Tyrell Shavers, Khalil Shakir and Gabe Davis as active.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, listen, they.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They going with the veterans. They're going with the veterans.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Obviously.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, listen, obviously, as a rookie, you know, you. You want to come in and make your impact, but they have players that are a little bit more impactful, a little bit more impactful than you are and bring a little. A Little bit more to the table than you do. So, you know, obviously, I mean, at this point, we going into week 12, week 13, whatever it may be, I mean, it's. It's already set in stone. I mean, anything that you could have shown or prove that you could do, you haven't done it to date, which is why they're comfortable making you inactive, showing you that we can get the job done without you. Especially as productive as they were offensively last week without you. Hell, you know, that the. Well, shoot, we don't need them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I got a great story, Ocho. I got a great story to tell you and Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah, we had what, five, six touchdowns and you didn't play so well. Hell, but what's the point? See?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Up 6, 317 yards.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Hey, so, hey, you know what that means to me? All it says is, keon Coleman, young Bull, I know you're gonna see this. You know I love you to death. We talk all the time. Come on down here with me in the off season. Come on down here with me in the offseason. I guarantee you they'll never sit you down again. Even if you. Even if you do miss a meeting, you'll be too valuable for them. And what you bring to the table on a Sunday for them to. To sit you down. Come on down here. Work with your boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now, I remember my rookie season, Dennis Smith, number 49, OO. We call him Kahuna. And Kahuna, I mean, he was one of the guys that, from the time I got there, he always. I don't know what it was, but the veteran players, a lot of the veteran players that were really good took a liking to me. Him, Elway, I mean. I mean, veteran players. Huna got there, and in 81, John got there, obviously in 83 with the trade through Baltimore. But they, the best, took a liking to me. And I remember him saying, sharp, never let them see they can win without you. Oh, that's why I shot up a lot of times, because I didn't want my backup to get in. And then all of a sudden, he played well. And then all of a sudden they figured they can move on from me. So that was also another reason that I shot up. But I never forget him saying that. He say, sharp, never let them see that they can win without you. If you notice who adopts that, the quarterbacks. Brady take every rep. Peyton Manning took every rep. Brett Favre took every rep. Drew Brees took every rep. You not f. To see if that guy can play or he can't play, right? Because I'm never going to give you an opportunity to let you see if he can play. You just have to go on your instinct, because I ain't coming out of there. See what Keon Coleman did, He allowed them to let Terrell Shavers get on the field, show we can win without him. Now, once they find out they can win without you, guess what? They'll do oo win without you, and they'll move on. Now he. The coach says I need to see growth. We having a conversation about a guy in the second year that shows growth. Now, I'mma tell you, look, got a great personality.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, the best.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But after a while, people start. They be going to be laughing at you. You talking about, guess what? This jacket. Guess where I got this jacket from. I'm gonna go back. It's funny. Kiki Ki. But at the end of the day, you better be putting some points on the board. You better be getting some yards, you better be getting some catches. You better get some. Some sacks, some interceptions. You better do something other than make them laugh. Because they gonna say, you need to go to the improv. You need to be at the Laugh Factory. Cause the football field ain't where you need to be. Right at the end of the day. As my good friend Glow say, the day gonna end. And when it ends, you better have catches, yards, and touchdowns. If you play on the opposite side of football as a skill position player. And they. They not playing. They're not. Hey, Ocho, it's too much money involved. Because before you know it, they're gonna have to make an investment. 20, 25, 30, 35, $40 million.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And they say, hold on. You doing this and you on your rookie contract, what's gonna happen? We give you 30 million, Ocho.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, you're right. You got. You got to be special. They got to be something about you, Joe. They got to be something about you as a receiver that separates you. Everybody play receiver. Everybody can run, Everybody can. Can catch. What is it about you that makes you that much more valuable embedded in the next man? It got to be one thing. You ain't got to be a bunch. You got to be one thing that separates you from everybody else. Hey, Unc. Joe. You know, on every. On every NFL team, there's a number one receiver and there's a number two receiver. There's something about that number one receiver that the number two can't do. Whatever it may be, they both play the same position, but one is a little better than the other, you have to find that one niche. It got just. Just one, Joe. That's it. That's all it takes. And they got to find it. His personality is so big. It's so big. If we can get his game on the field to match his personality game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Got to match it, though.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, my God. Hey, Joe, I'm talking about. It's two. It's two players I want to work with so bad, Joe, so bad. Because I know if I can get them anywhere close to how their personality is in front of that camera off the field, they. We talk about all world. We talk about all world they can be in a conversation of top 5 based on if they can get their skill set up the part and mess their personality. Yeah, John Coleman is one. The other one is Xavier Leggett. Hey, listen, them boys electric when that camera's in front of them, boy, if I, If I can get their game to match they personality, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, okay, Ocho. I like Keon Coleman. And this could be a wake up call for him, you know, for him to be a healthy scratch again, like, you know, you know, what could potentially be coming next down the pipe, man, this should. This should make him really look at himself in the mirror and get to work and be like, man, when I get back out there, I got to get them boys hell, you know what I mean? So, yeah, I'm hoping. I'm hoping he takes some good from this, bro. Cause I seen him over there dancing and all that when he knew he was out. Hey, look, I tell myself that irked me, man. I tell my son who in college, I say, hey, bro, they. They watching you. Even when you don't think they watching you, boy, they watching you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, they watching you.

[Joe Johnson]

So you sit over there mo pout.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And do all that.

[Joe Johnson]

Man, them folks watching, man, Always.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We've all been here. The longer you go without something, the easier it is to be without something. The longer they play without Keon in that lineup, the easy it becomes to them to play without him in the lineup. Give you a prime example. You saw they say CD and, and, and, and. And pick went out.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now if that's the third, fourth and fifth receiver, they're not even playing right. But that's the one and two receiver. They miss a series. You see the difference?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Jimmy Johnson. Say Jimmy Johnson cut a guy for sleeping in the meeting. The reporter said, with Jimmy. If that was Troy and he was sleeping the meeting, what would you have done? He said, I woke his ass up. One guy get cut, the other Guy, the other guy get woken up. They asked Mike, what about, you know, you. You say you lead the players if they're not there. Well, what if it's. What if it's td? What if it's sharp? What if it's airway? Well, that's the one thing about charting the flight. They wait on you, we gonna wait. But you un. You understand the level of importance by some of the things that you can get away with. But I'm gonna be on time because I need to be on the back of the plane to make sure when everybody else get on, I see what they're wearing so I can cut their ass up when they got on some bullshit. And that's what my job was. Okay, get to the plane early so I can see what you got on. You know, if you got on bus two, that's what sharp was. That's what them. That's where them Jonas. Them Jonas were.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It was. It was coming, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

If you got on some bullshit, don't you get on bus too. We had culture getting on our bus, man. I just want to see what 80 folk gonna say about what such and such got on. Come to the right place. Because I would tear his ass up. But Kia, don't you don't, don't you, don't you, hey, let us cut you, don't you give us a reason to cut you. Yeah, they will. Or do you understand there's a guy in college right now, won't Keon Coleman spot. There's a guy in high school want to be a starting receiver, want to be a receiver on the Buffalo Bills and high school, bruh.

[Joe Johnson]

And got his head down working dj.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This ain't no. This ain't no doctor, no lawyer. You don't get no 30 year career in the NFL. They replaced every year to turnover. That's why the average NFL career is 2.3 years. Even when you get a guy like Aaron Rodgers, they got 20 seasons. If you got a guy like Mercedes Lewis, they got 20 seasons in 15 and 18. The average NFL career is 2.3 years.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So how many guys in order for that. 20 and 18 and 15 Ocho to drag it down to 2.3. That means a lot of guys playing one year or not even playing at all.

[Chad Ochocinco]

At all.

[Joe Johnson]

Absolutely. Hey, look at it. Look, look, look at the NBA. It's 450 guys every year. Not just this year, not last year, every year. So if they got 50 new guys coming in every year, guess what? They got to have at least 50 going out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

50 guys. Got to go.

[Joe Johnson]

It's 450 guys. It's only 450 guys every year, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, that's why you got to stay on top of your game. That's why you got to continuously train.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's it. And don't give them a reason to.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Got to get better.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

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