Nightcap Hour 1: Joe Burrow keeps DROPPING HINTS of UNHAPPINESS + Tua BENCHED for Quinn Ewers in Miami + Ocho got his GIRL TAKEN by a HAITIAN + Cam Ward WANTS CONTROL

Summary

Club Shay Shay: Nightcap Hour 1 (Dec 18, 2025)

Host: Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Co-Host: Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson (Ocho)
Guest: ISO Joe
Theme: NFL Rumblings – Quarterback Drama, Dolphins Upheaval, and Ocho’s Heartbreak

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Episode Overview

This energetic episode of Nightcap Hour 1 on Club Shay Shay dives straight into the NFL’s ongoing drama as the regular season nears its close. Shannon Sharpe and Chad Johnson (with ISO Joe) break down Joe Burrow’s cryptic hints at unrest in Cincinnati, discuss the Miami Dolphins benching Tua Tagovailoa in favor of Quinn Ewers, and reflect on the broader trends of player empowerment. Interlaced with football analysis are stories of heartbreak and swagger—most notably Ocho’s vivid recollection of his girl being stolen by a Haitian baller. The conversation bounces between locker room wisdom and laugh-out-loud storytelling, all in the hosts’ signature style.

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Detailed Breakdown & Key Segments

Joe Burrow's Hints of Unhappiness with the Bengals

[07:58–18:09]

• Discussion kicks off with Burrow’s recent comments about his future in Cincinnati, which many perceive as coded messages of displeasure.
• Quote (Ocho, 09:02):
  “He's trying to get a message across with some of the things that he's saying. He did it last week and he did it again today. And obviously, he's doing it for a reason and he's standing on business.”
• Unc comments how previous franchise quarterbacks (Manning, Brady) never publicly speculated on leaving in their prime.
  Quote (Unc, 09:44):
  “I've never heard Peyton smack dab in the prime of his career talking about strange things have happened...I never heard Tom say that.”
• Both discuss how only elite QBs deep into their careers or after injury have even approached such openness—making Burrow’s ‘riddles’ highly unusual at his age.
• Injury woes seem central: Burrow’s missed significant time in 3 of 6 NFL seasons, leading to introspection and uncertainty about his future.
• The debate: Is Burrow justified in contemplating a fresh start, or is the grass not necessarily greener elsewhere?
• Ocho reveals a personal interaction:
  [16:56]
  “I walked up to [Burrow] and I asked him are you okay?...he looked at me with a smile and he winked and he went to working out. Then he comes out today with what he said today...reminds me of Carson Palmer saying 'I’d rather retire than come back and play for my Cincinnati Bengals.’”

Quarterback Power and Team-Building Dynamics

[21:31–33:18]

• Debate on whether Burrow has any say in Bengals roster/personnel decisions. Ocho thinks he does (especially on offense), Unc is skeptical.
• Quote (Unc, 23:53):
  “With Higgins...that’s a one-year contract. That’s a horrible contract. They can get out from under this contract in a year with nothing.”
• Extended breakdown of why it’s impossible to “pay everybody,” referencing Patriots, Chiefs, Lions, and Rams:
  “Your team is really made like the third through the sixth round. Can I get some bargain guys?” — Unc, [24:40].
• Both agree Burrow’s situation is rare: Only Deshaun Watson was similarly available at his age/star level, and most QBs get a voice only late in their career, if ever.

Dolphins’ Upheaval: Tua Benched, Tyreek on His Way Out?

[34:10–47:43]

• News announced: Tua Tagovailoa will be benched in favor of rookie Quinn Ewers.
  • Tua’s reaction: Accountability for his own poor performance.
• Quote (Tua, played by hosts, 38:04):
  “I haven't been performing up to the level and the capabilities that I have in past.”
• Ocho:
  “I'm mad for Tua myself...my young bull, he's 0–6 in 40 degree or less weather…the Dolphins always sucking when it comes to inclement weather...Just ain't worked out for him, Joe. Sometimes it happens like that, Unc.” [38:59–40:13]
• Hosts agree Dolphins fans deserve credit for continuing support: “I’m still gonna be at the game Sunday. I’m taking all the kids, Joe, okay? All 37 of them. We all gonna wear Tua jerseys.” — Ocho, [41:01].
• Tyreek Hill’s social media post suggests his exit is imminent:
  “That’s that—I’m out of here. Tyreek…he's going anyway.” — Ocho, [45:15].
• Broader talk: Dolphins went “all-in” (paying for stars), but failed; now, departures are coming.
• Sharpe rants about ticket prices and team revenue despite losing:
  “As you lose, more ticket prices go up. Now make it make sense...” — Unc, [50:41].

Ocho’s Storytime: “I Got My Girl Taken by a Haitian Dude”

[52:41–63:00]

• Ocho analogizes his sports heartbreak to his sophomore year romance:
  “...there was a young lady...one that I wasn’t supposed to get serious about...I was like Ray Charles. My homeboy came and got me at lunch, said, ‘Ocho, walk out here to the parking lot... Old basketball player had my girl in the back of the house.’” — Ocho, [53:18–54:08]
• The story gets graphic and hilarious, with the hosts clowning Ocho on the details and drawing parallels to life lessons.
• “That Haitian dude, you know, he was getting a little money too... Ever since that moment, I was a savage.” — Ocho, [56:07–56:19, 55:16]
• Unc: “That’s called being scarred, man.” [55:42]
• Life lesson: You gotta know what’s for fun and what’s not; experience makes you wise.
• Multiple callbacks throughout the rest of the episode, with laughter and joking about the infamous “Haitian dude.” The show’s tone is classic barbershop/cousin cookout—teasing, brotherly support, and wisdom from pain.

Cam Ward Wants Input on Head Coach

[64:06–69:43]

• Cam Ward expresses desire to participate in next head coach selection.
• Hosts debate: Is that premature for a young player?
  • Ocho’s stance: “Absolutely not. You got to be proven…Those are for Peyton Manning, Tom Brady types.” — Ocho, [65:27]
  • Unc: Even Ben Roethlisberger didn’t get that; only elite, tenured QBs do.
• Good intentions, but “asking an awful lot for a first-to-check-of-your player.” — Unc, [69:00]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Burrow’s Unusual Restlessness:
  “There's been no other quarterback in a position as great, as good as Joe Burrow is, that would come out and say anything like that.” — Ocho, [10:05]
• Tua’s Accountability:
  “I haven't been performing up to the level and the capabilities that I have in past.” — Tua (via playback), [38:04]
• Bengals History Lesson:
  “Either you guys trade me, let me go, cut me or…I'd rather retire than come back and play for my Cincinnati Bengals.” — Ocho on Carson Palmer, [18:09]
• Team-building Advice:
  “You can't pay everybody. You're gonna lose some people. And so you have to...draft and not your fourth rounders. Your team is really made like the third through the sixth round.” — Unc, [24:22]
• Life Lesson:
  “After that, I was a savage...In life...understand what's for fun and what's not...I was able to compartmentalize.” — Ocho, [55:16, 55:28]
• Barbershop Realness:
  “Look here, it happens to the best...” — Unc, [59:23]

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Section Timestamps

• Intro and Show Setup: [02:29–07:58]
• Joe Burrow's Hints & Bengals Dissatisfaction: [07:58–18:09]
• QB Power/Contracts & Personnel Talk: [21:31–33:18]
• Dolphins & Tua/Quinn Ewers Debacle: [34:10–47:43]
• Ocho’s Heartbreak Story: [52:41–63:00]
• Cam Ward’s Demands: [64:06–69:43]

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Overall Tone & Episode Feel

Playful “locker room” banter mixes with heartfelt fandom and experienced analysis. The hosts keep it real, often speaking directly to their listeners and to each other with the honesty and humor that has made Club Shay Shay a cultural touchstone. There’s plenty of vulnerability—Ocho’s storytime is a highlight—and the talk deftly balances football breakdowns with life lessons and comedy.

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For New Listeners

Even without hearing the episode, this summary will give you a sense of the headlines, the personalities, and the flavor that makes Nightcap a must-listen for football fans and anyone who loves authentic, unfiltered sports talk.

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[Host 2 (Ocho)]

I could, I couldn't. I can't see that, no.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Have you ever thought about the possibility of not being the quarterback here during your career or.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

You think about a lot of things.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

And when you look at quarterbacks over the course of their time, great ones, Hayden Brady, you kind of have to understand that you never know what this league will bring. And what did you learn from watching how their careers unfolded?

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Yeah, a lot of crazy things happen every year. Micah Parsons got traded right before the seat, right before the season. I think this year that is a. Something I hadn't seen in a long time in the NFL. So crazy things can happen.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Ocho.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yeah.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

I want you to talk to us.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Wait, what's happening, baby? Tell me what you want to know.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

I mean, what about. What do you make of Joe's. What do you make of Joe's comments?

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

I mean, I mean, it's, it's. I'm not sure. Obviously, quarterbacks normally don't answer questions like that. Normally they don't. Most quarterbacks are very PC. They dance around the questions that are asked, like politicians, like presidents, those that are trained to be able to answer questions but not really answer them directly. Most quarterbacks are very savvy at that. But he's trying to get a message across with some of the things that he's saying. He did it last week and he did it again today. And obviously he's doing it for a reason and he's standing on business. Whatever it is, whatever message he's trying to get across is getting, is getting across to the right people. Yeah, because normally he's getting across to the right people.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Something very interesting you said normally their guys are very PC. I've never heard Peyton smack dab in the prime of his career talking about strange things have happened and the possibility of him playing elsewhere. I never heard Tom say that. I, I, me personally, Ocho. Maybe you have because you played after me. Maybe these new age quarterbacks have said that, but I've never heard a quarterback. Go ahead.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Can I say something real quick? Hey, Joe, what's up? There's been no other quarterback in a position as great, as good as Joe Burrow is, that would come out and say anything like that. None of them would say that because they haven't. They would have no reason to. It would have no reason to. So there's a reason why you've never heard quarterback Said it whether it was your era, the era before us or during our era because quarterbacks that are that good, that are franchise altering, changing quarterbacks never feel like Joe feels right now. Now we'll never know exactly what it is. Is he frustrated because of the injuries? Is he frustrated because the onus in us having to win is all on his shoulder? Because our defense isn't that good. We really don't know what it is. But this is the second time Joe, you know, this is the second time he says something in. In riddle format that you have to guess what he really means.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

I think the thing is he said, hell yeah, I might be, it might be the injuries, but hell, I keep getting hurt because of this. Sorry, it's offensive line and even when I score 40 points, we still lose because our defense gives up 41. Now I think the thing is, look, we have to go back to Peyton. I remember when Jill they asked Jim Moore talk about playoff playoffs. We couldn't throw, you know, we throwing interceptions and, and Peyton got very upset with that. Everybody knew you criticizing that guy. Yeah, it's about to be over. Yeah, you're not gonna be the coach next year, Coach Moore. And so normally like I said, I mean you say things, certain things but like you said Ocho, we haven't seen. Now look, there have been quarterbacks that have had. That had a disliking but never voiced that Troy, no, you know, him and Jimmy had a little thing tiff at the beginning but because Jimmy bench end up well, Troy got hurt and they started bird line and they drafted Steve Walsh in the supplemental in the first round. When you just took a quarterback number one overall, Ocho and then you turn around and draft another quarterback in a supplemental draft. Troy didn't take kindly to that. But to hear Joe Joe speak basically for the second time in a week and you know, the melancholiness, the somberness in his tone, he's very calculated. You can tell because a lot of times you don't see a lot of quarterback Joe will actually pause and think before he actually says something. So he wants to make sure that look, I'm going to be very calculated with what I say. You know, he's looking up and he thinks about it. You know, he's very slow, he's very deliberate. Nothing is haphazard, nothing is rushed. But he just wants you to know that. Look, I'm not just saying something willy nilly, I'm not just saying something arbitrarily. I've really, really thought. I've been Thinking a lot about this. And normally guys start thinking about this, Ocho, later in their career. They're not thinking about this five, six years in their career.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Not this early. Wait, what year? Six.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Seven. Six or seven?

[Rob Gronkowski]

Six.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Seven something.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Hey, hey, but, but hey, but due to the. Look, dude, due to the luck that he's had and the injuries, man, you know, sometimes. Hey, Uncle Ocho, it might not be bad for Joe to get old, a new start somewhere.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, come on.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Hey, look, look, look. Look what y' all going. Look what y' all facing every year, Ocho.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Hey, Joe, come on.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Look, every year we sit on here and listen to you holler by hooping, hollering about these banger, you know what I'm talking about? And. And then it ends up in emotional lasting of the games. And now you gotta keep riding with them, you know what I mean? I don't like to see you like that, bro. I'm just keep 100.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Listen, I. I feel you, Joe. I don't. I don't think. I don't think in the history of the game. In the history of the game, there has never been a quarterback in his prime like this that is this good. As. As good as Joe Burrow is, outside of the situation with DeShawn Watson that became available in his prime like this. That is the only quarterback. Am I correct on.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Yes.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

In the prime with. Note with. I mean, and the thing is, desean didn't have this injury history, you know what I'm saying? He towards me in college, but he didn't have. He didn't have this history like Joe had. But as you mentioned, yeah, normally quarterbacks become available late in their career. Peyton Manning was coming off a substantial injury. Brett Favre was. What year was Brett Favre? Brett Favre had to be in your like 14 to 15. Aaron Rodgers, same thing. He had to be available what year 17. Eighteen quarterbacks of this caliber don't come available. They damn sure not coming available in their prime. And so to see a guy, year six, yeah, he has some injury history. But what we. And even with that injury history, there are probably 25 other teams that will take Joe Burrow over their current situation, given his Even. Even given his injury history, because you know what? He's more than capable of providing. With that being said, Ojo, I just. Like I said, I like a lot of times when you get injured and you've never been injured, Ocho, and I don't know if you've ever been injured to the extent Joe, you Missed substantial amount of time, but you become very reflective.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Yeah, right.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

You start to think, man, is this what my career is going to look like? Am I going to be. Because he's been injured three of the six years he's been in the league, Ocho. He's missed substantial time. I'm not talking about a game. And then, remember. What was it last year? I think he came in. He had that calf injury, and he came in injured. But now he's missed. You know, he tore his acl, and then he had a wrist. Tore a ligament in his wrist. And then he missed, what, 10 weeks this year with a toe. And so you start getting very. You start becoming very reflective, and you like, damn, is this my fate? Is this what I'm gonna have to go through? Do I need Ocho? It gives you an opportunity to think, man, if I was somewhere else and had a better offensive line and they did a better job of putting pieces around me, could I be better? Could I? I mean, you. You start. Hey, oh, yeah, you. And I was having a conversation. I said, ocho, you know, sometime when you and your girl, y', all, like, you need some time to think, and you get that time apart, and then she start thinking, damn.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Cassim, man, Cassim. What? Ain't that bad. You know, he nice. You know, hey, he might. You know, he might do this. You start thinking, yeah, man. Man, what. Man, why you bull. Driving? Sophia. Sophia was nice. Now I see. You know, I see how she did. And so now all of a sudden, all these things start going through your head. They're going through her head. That's what's happening with Joe. All these scenarios starting to play out in his head. Yeah. Because why? And he got time.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Yeah. And the funny thing about it is what time? What time? When you understand. You. You want to test the waters, and you think. You think the grass is green on the other side. You know, sometimes that. That same scenario in that time, you had to think they have you out there in the ocean, swimming by your goddamn self.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Well, unless he goes to the jets, it ain't no situation worse than Cincinnati. I promise you that. Yeah.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

I understand what you're saying. I don't. I don't think Joe understands how blessed he is from an offensive perspective. I. I understand we talk about the officer line. The officer line being bad, but with those receivers he has at his disposable, having Jamar Chase, who is arguably the best receiver in the NFL, having T. Higgins, who is a good, solid one a as a receiver and and to leave that organization despite what may be going on. And what makes me nervous Joe and is is hearing Joe talk the way he's talking and and the the the small words that I shared with him at the Ravens game before the game in pre game I walked up to him and I asked him are you okay? And he said he was good and I said don't scare me like that again and he looked at me with a smile and he winked and he went to working out. Then he comes out today with what he said today and it, it puts me in, in a situation and remembering when Carson Palmer was so fed up to the point where he said, you know what? I'm not coming back. Either you guys trade me, let me go, cut me or if you don't decide to do that, I'd rather retire than come back and play for my Cincinnati Bengals.

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[Host 2 (Ocho)]

You know, hey, Joe, he retired. Joe, he refused to come back because he felt it was that bad that the organization wasn't building a competitive team to win. He felt they weren't going in the right direction to compete for Lombardi. And he said, I'm not coming back. And Joe, he really. Quarterbacks make that kind of money. Yeah, you know, I'm not coming back. And he. He literally didn't come back.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Let me ask you this. How much say, do you think Joe Burrow has as far as personnel or as far as decisions being made in that organization?

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

I think a lot of say.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

I don't think he has as much say. I think he'd have much say. Let me ask you a question. How much say did Tom Brady have with all those super bowl wins, with all those playoffs? How much faith did he had in New England not just oppose that. How much did he say did he have when he went to Tampa?

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Well, he got Gronk there.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

What about AB?

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

He got AB there too. Okay, hold on. Hey, when it was time for chasing T to get get paid, who stood on that table for right away?

[Host 1 (Unc)]

It was me. And you could have got T. Me and you could have got Chase paid. The thing is, with Higgins, when you look at Higgins contract, Ocho, and this is not a disrespect to his agent, that's a horrible contract. That's basically a one year contract. That's a one year contract. That ain't nothing. That's one year they can get out. They can get out from under this contract in a year with nothing, with no substantial penalty. The whole point of getting money up front, Ocho, is to get the security. And that buys you time. So they just can't arbitrarily, willy nilly just say, okay, yeah, we good. It didn't work out there. I believe there's a greater chance that T. Higgins hits the market again than he comes back. That's just me. When you look at. Look, go look at his contract and you tell me, I guarantee you won't find one other agent other than his own that says this is a good contract. Right? But I just think sometimes guys have. Peyton had a lot of say when he went to Denver. A lot of say. And that's what happens when. And Joe Burrow is that kind of guy. He would have a lot of say in personnel moves when he got there.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Yeah, I tell you, I tell you one thing. And I don't think he had that much say with personnel moves when he first got there. You got to get your feet wet. He's now a proven player. He's a player that's gotten the Cincinnati Bengals to the goddamn Super bowl since 1988. They might not have won the game, but as a proven player, as a quarterback, as a franchise quarterback, quarterback at that, I'm sure he has some say. Now, maybe not on the defense end because that's not his. That's not his repertoire, that's not his area expertise. But I could tell you where to say would be. It would be on that offensive line. It would be at the receiver position.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

The Brady have his feet wet outside.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

That out and listen, outside of that, nothing else should be a worry for the quarterback.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

But you can't pay everybody, Ocho.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Who you telling? Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe, you ain't got to tell me. I. I understand how the salary cap work. I also understand the fact that you can't pay everybody. They're gonna be some weak links.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Yeah. Especially when you pay.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Hey, you.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

And you can't keep it. And once they become good, Ocho, you can't keep them all.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Yeah. Hey, listen, Joe. Everybody can't be Howie Rose. Everybody can't be Jeffrey Lurie.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Yeah.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Like they are phenomenal. And I don't know if it's goddamn luck and get at drafting the right players, paying them at the right time, pay up early.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

That's what New England did so well, Ocho. Think about they, they would always Pay you so early. You like, look at all this money. And then one year later you're like, boy, that's a terrible contract, but I got your ass under contract for another four years, so deal with it. Yeah, look at, look at Kansas City. They had to let Legarius Lee go. Ocho, they couldn't pay. They had to let Tyreek go. Ocho, they couldn't pay him. The other, I think it was gay with the middle linebacker, they had to let him go. You can't keep everybody. You're gonna lose some people. And so you have to. And that's where you have to draft and not your fourth rounders. Your team is really made like the third through the sixth round. Can I get some bargain guys? Some guys that's not gonna cost me a whole lot of money. They're gonna be able to fill in and play. And that's what, that's what Kansas City did early on. Those guys were able to play, but you start having injuries and the injuries just piled up and piled up. And I think the thing is, when you're winning, Ocho, it masks a lot of things because a lot of times be like, well, we won the Super Bowl. Why do we need to change anything? It wasn't until this season when it totally when the look the car. Now, after 10 minutes of that, it finally cranked. You ain't gonna do nothing. Don't yo. Well, it crunk. It's still good. It's not till it put you down your ass. Downside the road you say you got. You know what? It wasn't until the wheels completely fell off the chief this year that I think Brett Veach and Andy Reid realized we've got to retool this thing. We squeezed all we could out of this roster. The way it's concurrently constructed and you look at the dollar figure that they got. I, I saw something today and I don't know it's true or not. Ocho. 80% of their cap is tied up in eight players. Eight. It's a 53 man roster, Ocho.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Yeah, yeah, man, I, I, I, I don't, I don't know why, but Joe, Joe make me nervous.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

You should be nerv team. I tell you what, every other team ear is perked up. Hey, you know how your dog can be sleeping and all of a sudden you make a noise. You see his ears ear start twitching. Yeah, yeah.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Wait, wait a minute. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on now. Hold on. This is one thing about it, old man. Old man. Mr. Brown, you could be as mad as you want to. What you're not gonna do is you're not gonna work in and fiddle your way up out of there. You're not gonna talk your way up out of there. You're not gonna bully. No, you definitely not finna bully him. That ain't gonna happen.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Hold on. You just told us what. What did Carson do?

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Oh, yeah. Well, if Joe gonna. If Joe gonna sit out and not come back, then that's what he gonna have to do, because you ain't gonna bully that man upstairs. Not that one. Not. Hey, hey, Joe.

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[Host 1 (Unc)]

Oh, he's definitely old.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

School, man. Nah, hey, listen, don't. Don't get on his bad side. And you keep YouTube. You keep doing the goddamn interviews, saying all this. All this craziness. Now, he gonna take that as a goddamn insult. Now, I understand you frustrated about your injuries. I understand the fact that, you know, we not winning right now. I understand the fact that our defense is bad, but we paying you good dollar. Top dollar. 50 something. 50 something a year, Joe.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Yeah.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Yeah. 55 a year, Joe. And you stay.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

You.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

You ride here with the goddamn riddles and all that. Yeah. All right. I'll show you. I can show you better than I can tell you.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

All right? But, hey, look, if. If, If. If. If they have to get off Joe. If they do get off Joe, man, it ain't like it, Ocho. Maybe it's time for Joe to. To start fresh somewhere new. You know? Maybe he needs some fresh air. Hey, listen, he got too much emotion involved. That's why he can't think straight. You know what I'm saying? You got to take your emotions out, bro, so you can think clearly, man.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

He gonna be all right.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Oh, I give you a prime example. Look at the Lions. They all them guys they drafted. They drafted Penne Soul, Jameer Gibbs. They. They got Montgomery in Fregency. They drafted what. What's. What's the burner, the speed guy. Ocho, the receiver.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Jameson William.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Jameson Williams James drafted him. Think about it. They traded Hawkinson, who was a Pro bowl player. I think it was the second team, all probably. And they drafted Laporta. Now, they're gonna have to make some decisions here with that defense. Now they got Robinson. What you gonna do with Arnold? What you gonna do with Jack Campbell?

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Kirby, Joseph, they pay.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

I think they paid Kirby. Yeah.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

So they're gonna be some other Muhammad. What you gonna do with Muhammad? Because you just played Hutchinson now. Hey, Ocho, this. That. This is 2008 with that interest only, Joe. You remember them? Interest only. Everybody was getting them 15, 20,000 square foot house because all you had to pay was 2500amonth. But that balloon paper was gonna come due in about three years. Yeah, I sure hope you got 4 million, 5 million sitting around somewhere. Now, if you don't, you have to get your ass up out of here. Called the whole market to crash because everybody had interest only loans. That big balloon payment came due, and ain't nobody have no money. The housing crash. So Detroit's gonna. Hey, it's gonna happen. It's gonna happen because they're going for it. Jared Goff, big Bug money. Almond Rock, Big, big money. Jameson Williams. Big, big money. Panay Su, Big, big money. Hutchinson, big, big money. Joseph, big, big money. At some point in time, Ocho, you can't pay everybody big, big money.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Nah, nah.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

I think they paid McNeil. I think McNeil got paid.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Yeah. Hey, the. The only good thing about it I can think of is every. Every year that goddamn cat go up. Every year, that cat go up, and with some of those great players that are really, really great, they can always come back.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Restructuring bonus, huh?

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

We're gonna take. We go, hey, we gonna take. We're gonna take some of this money on the back end, and we're gonna put it on the front end. And a huge signing bonus so we can keep this goddamn training you can do.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

If you bring a Super bowl, you can break it up. Remember the Rams? Remember what they did?

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Think about all the money they spent. They say, okay, we got what we got out of it. We got to tear it down.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Yeah, tear it down.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Hey, Vaughn, I'm sorry. We gotta. Leonard Floyd. I'm sorry.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Yeah. Yeah. And look at them again. Look where they look at. Look where they're at. On the verge of being able to do it again.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

You draft Kyron Williams. You draft Puka Nakua. You draft verse, you draft young, you draw. Hey, get Landmine. You draft Ernest Jones. The fourth goal, you. Hey, they let Jalen Ramsey go. They find Durant. You see how they did it? Ocho, they get. They get Devonte Adams, who's a number one, but you get him at a basement price of 20 million, not the 35, 40 million that somebody of his caliber is worthy of getting. That's what you have to do. Look at the offensive linemen they let go. Drafted got better. Parkinson, you see how they did it? Now, if you want a Super Bowl, Ocho, you like. Hey, we got. What we supposed to get out of this? We Went for it. We did it. Okay. Let it go.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Yeah, yeah. This little talk got me getting kind of a little upset.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

I'm getting a little angry now, you know?

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Yeah, yeah. Pipe down a little bit, Turbo. It's all right, man.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We good. We good.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

I'm.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Listen, I'm talking to Joe. I'm gonna put him aside now. It ain't over. Ain't no. Because, listen, I'm gonna see. I'm gonna see Joe. I'm gonn Saturday. I'mma see him Saturday. You know the Bengals playing the Dolphins. So they get in.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Joe, he going to the Sardine Jack Mackerel Bowl. They all speak.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Hey, listen, I'm. Listen, I'm really not worried about this season. I'm not worried about the season. This season is already. Is in the can. It is what it is. Let's finish the season off strong, you know, let's have some good high points.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Let's.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Let's have some individual goals that. That, that. That individuals wanna. Wanna attain, you know, next four weeks. Outside of that, I just need to sit down with Joe. I need. I only need a long conversation. I need team, 10 minutes. I need to know your mind.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

I need you to stay by. Stay by the mailbox. You got two of these coming real soon. Hey, my man. My man. You can see it right? Come in close on this right here. I got some room for all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got two of these coming in the mail. Yeah, Just to be a male.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Hey, that little. Hey, that look real good right there, boy. That's gone.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Yeah. You got yours, don't you? Yeah. So, Joe, just stay close by the mailbox. They're gonna be coming short. I got you. Say less. Say less.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Hey, hey. When mine gonna hit?

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Oh, y' all gonna come for Christmas? I was gonna be a Christmas gift for you.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Okay, okay, okay. Hey, hey, hey. Let me tell you something.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

I ain't.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

It ain't nothing for me to put that ski mask on again and come back in your house.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Why is that necessary, Ocho?

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

I mean, it's not necessary. I mean, it's not necessary. You got all. You got all my gifts. You got my jerseys.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

I mean, I asked you, I said, what you doing? Would you like to swap? You talking about? Nah, you keep those jerseys. You keep obese jerseys. I don't care nothing about that.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Hey, you ain't go to Beach High. Why you even got my jerseys in the first place?

[Host 1 (Unc)]

What you mean? I knew somebody with the beach eye. Good friend of mine. He was Number two you talking about.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Samaritan.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Came to Baltimore after I was gone. I played against when he was in Tennessee.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Tennessee. Yeah.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

But Joe. Yes, Those should be arriving shortly. The Dolphins appreciate that. Oh Joe, the Dolphins. The Guppies announced that they're benching tua. Let's take a listen to tua's reaction after learning of this info.

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[Host 2 (Ocho)]

What was your reaction at that point? Disappointed. I mean I'm not happy about it but you know, something out of my control. Why do you think this has happened?

[Host 1 (Unc)]

I would say the biggest thing and it's being honest with myself as well had been my performance. I haven't been performing up to the level and the capabilities that I have in past.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Hey, hey man, I'm, I'm mad for tour myself. I'm mad for tour. You know, we've, we've heard rumblings about Tua's performance, his injury history, the concussions for a very long time. For a very long time. But Joe and Uncle, he hasn't performed to the level that we need him to perform at to be able to compete in the AFC east, let alone compete in general. My young bull man, he's 06 in 40, 40 degree or less weather. Well here the Dolphins always sucking when it comes to inclement weather. Always. Yeah, but he just hasn't been good this year ever since Tyreek Hill went down. When you think about them offensively and what they look like last year. It was last year, right?

[Host 1 (Unc)]

They missed the playoff last year. It was two years ago.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Oh, two years ago. Hey Joe, they was, they was ranked second, third in goddamn offense in the NFL. Joe. Yeah, just two years ago and obviously last year riddled with injuries, concussions. It set not just him back, it set the Dolphins back in general. Now they're going in the direction of having Ken errors start.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Quinn.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Quinn errors. Sorry. But listen, I, I, I saw him at Texas, he was okay. Is he. Is he this. Is he going to be such a drastic difference for the Dolphins? I don't think so. Is he the answer for the future? I don't think so. I think we're still. We're still going to be in the same place. We are looking for a quarterback that we've been doing since goddamn Dan Marino. Joe, it's been going on for a long time, man. Listen, we've been struggling for a long time.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

I know, I know, I know, I know, I know. Pipe down. I know, I know. Know. I know.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Come on, now.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

I know. Pipe down, though.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

I know, I know, but listen, I'm mad for Tour because I know Young Bull, man, he put the work in. He hardy prepare, you know, he want to be good at what he do and, and it just ain't worked out for him, Joe. Man, sometimes it happened like that, Uncle.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Ocho, but y' all gotta respect him because of the accountability that he came with. Finally.

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[Host 1 (Unc)]

That'S what it is for me. I'm like, he took accountability, so now he just gotta. He gotta get back to the drawing board and get back to work. As far as if he want to be a starting quarterback again, like all I know, he hadn't been it. Joe, I think we ought to pitch in and get us a big old aquarium, because that's where we finna put the guppies. They done. They've been done for quite a while, so. Hey, Chad, how about we pitch in, we get a nice size aquarium. So that's where you put guppies. I remember when I was in school. Hey, Joe, when you was in elementary school, kindergarten, first grade, you had them aquarium and you see the little guppies riding, swimming around. That's where y' all supposed to be.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Ocho, it's all good, it's all good.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

But see, you make this, it's all good.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

I, I, I, I, I tell you one thing, I'm still gonna support. I'm still gonna be at the game Sunday. I'm taking. Hey, I'm taking all the kids, Joe, okay? All 37 of them. We going to the Dolphin game. Matter of fact, we all gonna wear two. A jerk. Matter of fact, hold on, you can.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Wear whatever you want to. He gonna be on the bench. Hey, as a matter of fact, if you wait a couple of months, you'll be able to get half off or to a jersey. Hey, I know you want this game to mean something here, didn't you, boy?

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Hey, Joe, it's still gonna mean Something to me, Joe, it's still. Hey, hey, hey, hey. In life, sometimes. Sometimes in life you prepare. Sometimes in life you study for the test, Joe.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Yeah.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Sometimes you fail the test. Even though you study. You. You put in hours and hours and countless hours and time and you put faith in you and in what you do, your respective craft. And sometimes you hope that you get the results based on the work that you put in. Sometimes, Joe, sometimes it just don't turn out like that.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

You're right, sometimes it don't.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

And that's what happened to my Samoan warrior. My Samoan warrior, he put in the work because that's my uso. You know how to Samoan? Hey, Joe, they don't.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

They normally don't get hurt either. So are we sure he full blooded?

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Hey, hey, come on, come on. Don't, don't do that. Don't, don't do that.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

You don't. Look, the Samoans I play with, them jokers ain't never hurt. They don't take no ankles. They don't take no risk. They don't take ish. And they go out there, it don't matter how cold it is. They don't care nothing. They ain't got no sleeves on. They'd be out there practice with no sleeve, no nut. Now I'm talking about the s' mores I play with, man. Man, the big old strong jokes, man. See, see, I don't know what they made up. I'm like, I don't know how y' all come from warm weather climate and y' all can withstand this cold like y' all damn Eskimos. I don't know how, but I wish you the best. But I'm wearing everything I got in here to practice.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

It's all good. It's all good. It's.

[Jacob Goldstein]

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[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Listen, it's all. It's all good. It's all good. Two are gonna bounce back.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Oh, yeah, two is.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Two is a God fearing man. He's a man that has faith, you know, in his craft. And. What was that?

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Hey, Chad, how much guppies cost? Give me an aquarium.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Hey, hey. What the hell is a guppy?

[Host 1 (Unc)]

A dolphin. What y' all are guppies. Little small ass, tiny fish, teeny tiny fish. It start. A fish. What you put in an aquarium, you also feed a fish. What you feed big fish. Y' all guppies.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

I thought you talked about a goldfish.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

A goldfish is a goldfish. A guppy is a smaller fish, a starter or feeder fish.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

You know, it's funny You've been saying guppy all this time. I thought it was just a made up name. I didn't know it was actually fish called a guppy. I didn't know that. Hey, like this. This is what I like about this show. Hey, Joe, I've been learning stuff. I'll be learning stuff on the fly.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Yeah.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

I ain't know nothing about no guppy. I know about goldfish.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

And you know, there are other things that you put in the aquarium other than the goldfish.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

I mean, listen, Goldfish angel. Yeah. See, I couldn't afford nothing but a goldfish. That's it. I mean, you got money.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

I ain't got no money. But everybody, if you. If you went to kindergarten, you went to Head Start, you had an aquarium, and they had a little teeny, tiny fish in there with guppies. And at the end of the year, they give them to you. They like, would you like to take a fish on? They put him in that little plastic bag, yo. They put them in that little plastic bag.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

And let you take that damn fish home, knowing that mofo was gonna die because you would have nothing to put that fish in. And you damn sure could barely feed yourself. So you damn sure couldn't feed no fish.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Yeah. Hey, yeah, we. We had gold.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Tyreek Hill had his own reaction. O Joe, Joe. Let's take a look at the caption. Tyree you found. Now, you don't hype this man up. You remember, this man is more accurate than my homeboy. He done hyped him up.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Joe.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Oh, Joe. You heard what he said?

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Hey, the man like this, Ocho.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Hey, hey. That's that. That's that. I'm. I'm out of here. Tyreek. Tyreek. Letting it be known he gone. I mean, Ty, you know, he's. He's going anyway. And the funny thing about it is, understanding the injury that Tyreek had, I know because he's small, because he's compact, he's going to come back stronger than ever. It might not be with the dolphins. Wherever he goes, he's going to be a sought out commodity. As fast as he was when he does come back, he's still going to be faster than everybody else, even if he's lost a step. That's how fast he is. So I'm excited for him. Wherever his destination may be. I just. The. The quarterback situation. We're still right back at square one with the quarterback situation. I think we're going to see that. No disrespect to Mr. Eris, but it's tough. It's tough. It's tough. And I. Oh, man, this sucks for me as a Dolphin fan, Joe. I've been going through this. Hey, Joe. For a minute, Joe.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Because he ain't coming back. He ain't coming back. No. Well, well, we talk about this, Joe. I mean, I was trying to tell Ocho he was going to be a trade. He was going to be a trade deadline guy. Tyreek was. I was kind of surprised, kind of leaning, considering how it ended last year, that he would not go back into the game. I thought that that was it for him. I knew and I. We. Oh, and I talked about it. He ain't going to be no captain because that's not captain material. You can't lead when. If things are not going well. Because here's the thing, Ocho. Let's just say he needed 50 yards to get 1600. Well, let's just say he need 50 yards to get a thousand yards. You think he's going back in the game? Of course, but because they're losing no chance of the playoffs and his teammates are asking reek, you good. You go. You. You going in matter of time. And then. But it started last year. Ocho, remember that, showed up for the game and he got into the running with the pitch, the. The police and all that stuff. Yeah, they were just. It was starting to be. It was start. He was starting to be more than he's worth. Production, intolerance, his tolerance. His production slip. So tolerance has got to come down, and it wasn't there. So I thought he was going to get. I thought I was going. I was very surprised that they brought him back, but I was. If he hadn't got hurt. Ocho, you and I both agree that he was going to get traded. Yeah, he's not coming back. He's not. So now how healthy can it be? Because it's more.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

He.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

He damaged a lot of ligaments in that knee. What did he get? Acl, lcl? He told something, dislocated his kneecap. Fibula. I mean, he did a. He did a lot of damage. It wasn't no clean with Ocho where you just got, you know, your acl, maybe your mcl, or something like that. He got some major stuff going on.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Hey, he gonna be back. He gonna be back, right? Don't worry about it. He gonna come. Yeah, he coming. He come back strong.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

I hope so, because he had. Hey, it ain't gonna. I think he has like 819 catches over 11, 000 yards. He has like 80 plus touchdowns look all decade of the. The 2010s. He's. He's phenomenal. He was. He. He was phenomenal. And I hope he can get back Ocho, because even at 30, 31, I think Tyrese. 31. 30, 31, like you said, with that speed. Okay, so now he's not four two. Now he four three, eight. Okay, that's still pretty good. Yeah, still pretty good. Yeah. So they. They said it was dislocated, dislocation. They said multiple ligaments, but they listed the acl, so ain't but a whole eight. But ain't but a few in there. You got acl, lcl, and an MCL pcl. So they say multiple. So we know the acl. So he tore one or multiple of the other three. But, Rick, you ain't have to hit my man like that. I mean, Reek said he out of there. Basically said Tyreek out of there. Excuse me. Two is out of there also. But see, you make a move like this, Joe, when you're moving on. When they. When the Broncos got Russ out of there, what did they do? Yeah, they missed him the last three, four weeks of the season, and they were in prime position to go to the playoffs. You see, Ocho, that's what they do when they get ready to move on. They go ahead and sit you down. They did. Denver was the same thing with Jake Plumber. They was gonna move on. Yeah. Guess what they had, right? Prime playoff contention. They. Oh, Jay Cutler started. Yeah. Then they moved on, went on without Jake Plummer. So this is. This is the start. This is the start of it. We knew that this was happening. You see them started moving on when they trade Ram. I'm not. You see that? Jalen Phillips, he's in. He's at the Eagles. Would I be surprised they moved on from Chub? I would not. We know Reek's gonna be.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Hold on. They. They. They. They. They let Matthew Judon go today and let, you know. Go today.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

So they retooled this thing. They went Ocho. They went for it. Yeah, they went for it. They drafted. You know, they go. They get Tyreek, and they trade for Ram. They get. They trade for Bradley Chubb. They went for it. It just didn't work out for them. And that's okay. You. You going for it. I'd rather team go for it and it doesn't work out as a team and just sit idly by like, oh, well, we go cool, blah, blah. Nah. Hell no.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

If I'm a fan I'm gonna lose my mind. We paying off. Because guess what? As you lose, more ticket prices go up. Now make it make sense, Ocho. I'm gonna be disappointed if we win the super bowl. And all of a sudden the ticket prices go up 10, 15, $20. So you mean to tell me we ain't got no chance of getting to the playoffs? And the ticket prices are still going up, concession prices are still going up, parking is still going up?

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[Host 1 (Unc)]

Buying all this paraphernalia is still going up, and y' all ain't even trying it. Oh, hell, no.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Yeah. Hey, that. That sucked, man. And that. You know. You know, Joe, It. It hurt, Joe. It hurt. And I'm not gonna get emotional. I'm not gonna cry. Just the fact that I have two teams. Two teams that I love dearly. Obviously, the Dolphins. Me being from Miami, from the roots, you know, I'm from Living City, Joe. I'm out of Dade County, Georgia.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

You had a little stint with. With the Dolphins, didn't you?

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Yeah, you hit. You said the right word.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Little. A little.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Little stint. Yeah. Hey, Joe. And just. Just a Bengal fan. Dolphin fan. And that's all I know, man. That's all I.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

He played for the Patriots, Joe. I don't know why he don't want to take the Patriots. They winning.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Yeah, I ain't. I ain't doing nothing.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

That don't mean nothing, O. Joe, you ain't do nothing in Miami either, but you claim them.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Yeah, but. Yeah, because that was. That's home. That's home. I'll always be home, you know? Hey, hey. I got.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

They.

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They.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

I got a check.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

I got.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

I got my check and say, Miami, how many.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

How many checks you get from New England?

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

I. I ain't never touched them. I'm not sure. I ain't even look at that yet. Yeah.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

So.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Damn, Joe. It hurt, Joe. It hurt.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

No, it don't hurt me.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

You know what it feel like, Uncle Joe? You know what I feel like? I ain't gonna lie to you, Joe. The feeling I got right now, man, is. Is more disappointment. I'm not mad. I'm disappointed, because I should have known better. You hear me? I gotta stop. I gotta stop. I gotta stop thinking and thinking with my heart, Joe. With my mind.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yeah.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

So there was. It was a young lady. Hey, let me tell you. Yeah. Hey, hey, Joe. I ain't really no story time type dude, you hear?

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Go ahead, Go ahead.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

But, you know, I'm gonna share a little story. Sophomore, I was, sophomore in high school, Miami B. Senior high, you know, there was a young lady, you know, I was dating, you know, and. And. And she was one that I wasn't supposed to get serious about. I needed to understand the landscape in which she come from. I needed to understand the way she maneuvered. And Joe, when I was blind to the fact I was like Ray Charles, you know, my homeboy, they were telling me, like, boy, that ain't that. That's. That's just. That's play. Play. You hear me?

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Yeah.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Yeah. Hey, Unc. And I chose her.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Boom.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

I tried to. I could change her. That was my mentality as a youngster. You know, I wasn't. I wasn't a seasoned veteran like I am now.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

You hear me? I hear you.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

So, hey, I done took up under my wing, you know, I'm. Listen, I'm. I'm gonna pilot this thing. And you, you know, you just ride on the side of me as my co pilot.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Yeah.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Hey, Joe. Boy, it took about two weeks, Joe, man, My homeboy hit me. Came and got me at lunch. Hey, Ocho boy. Walk out here to the parking lot with me. But what's up? Why you. Everything good?

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Is he.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

I want to show you something, man. Old basketball player had my girl in the back of the house.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Man. Say it. You should have knew something. You ain't had no car while you in the parking lot, so you should have knew something was up.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Yeah, well, he's all up on the undercarriage. Yeah. You know, when I. When I look, I ain't even had to go close. Like, her head was up against the rear view window. I'm like, well, God. I mean, damn. Yeah, yeah. Hey, that was. That was. Now you see how. You see how you see y' all reaction. Oh, how you think I felt so that. That's how I felt. Like just seeing. Seeing. It's a constant memory of that exact moment every time I see the Bangles. Yeah.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Yeah, man.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Yeah. Cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

The windows was up. It was all foggy. I don't know how you.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Hey, Joe, he all in the window like this here. How you do that? Why you doing me like that? Hey, you remember Hitch? Hey, you remember Hitch? When Hitch called his girl and she rolled the window down?

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Yeah, yeah. I ain't go that close. I ain't need to go that close. Once I saw a head keep hitting the rearview mirror. I know what time it was.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Savage, though. Didn't turned you into a savage. Didn't. After that, you turned it.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Hey, Joe, ever. Ever since that moment, I Was a savage. Joe, listen, I could be honest with you, Joe. I. I started moving different. Joe.

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[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Read a couple of books. I watched a couple of movies.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Yeah.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

And understood. So I went into all situations understanding that this can happen again. So I was able to compartmentalize and was in the back of my mind, it can happen.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Yeah.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Ego. No ego, no pride.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

That's called being scarred, man.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Come on, now. Yeah. Them scars, Bill. Character make me the man.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

I am so sorry. I'm taking another swig for you.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

I appreciate. I appreciate that, but I would just. I had to share that story so people can get a better understanding on how it feels to see that basketball player.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Where was he from? Was he from Alabama?

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Haitian dude. Haitian dude. You know, he were getting a little money, too, you know. You know, you got dudes.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Yeah. Yeah. Look like he was getting a little honey, too.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Come on.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Hey, so I got a question. Did she. Did she end up seeing you? See her?

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Not after that, no. You know, I ain't even. I ain't even. Listen, I see in the hallway, man, I just hit it with. I hit it with the deuces at.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Act like you. You gotta act like you.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

I can't, because now, you ain't. You ain't gonna embarrass me like that, all right, man? No, you got, you know, sock by, say, hitting you down in the car, man. Come on, man. Don't try me like.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

I mean, what, you want to take her to a hotel?

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Nah, I mean, I'm just saying. I mean, listen, I. Hey, that's why you understand, there's. There's a difference. Hey, Joe, that's. That's the good thing in life. So, fellas, this is a lesson. You have to understand what's for fun and what's not, right? You understand? We'll see. Now. Now that I'm a seasoned veteran, I understand what's for fun, and you could. And what you can take serious.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Yeah.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

I mean, that's neither here nor there, man.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

I'm sorry, Ocho.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

I mean, it's happened to the best. It's happened to the best. Us, we don't all get the chance to witness it, but we know for certain that it's happened. Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, I don't know, Ocho. If I saw that, I don't mind, man. I might have lift the car up.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Nah, I wasn't gonna do all that. Nah, nah, I couldn't do that. You know, I was. Hey, I was a star player. I was one of the star players Back then. I want him to do that.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

And she did that.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Hey, hold on. You know, see, wait a minute. And I was a sophomore. You got to think who's on the team? Terry Cousins.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Yes.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

We had Dwayne Starks. So I was the battle. The baby.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Hey.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

So I feel. I felt like. I felt like I was that boy, you know?

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Yeah.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

She was a senior, though.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Hey, who would. This Haitian dude, Joel B.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Yeah, it was cool. It got me on. Listen, and in life, this happens. The big fish. Sometimes the big fish. The big fish.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

They got two now.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Hey, just cause it's on the top shelf, don't mean it can't be reached. Okay? Yeah, yeah.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Hey, hey, let me tell you something. I. Listen, I didn't been around here. I didn't been around here 57 years, Joe. Everything.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Absolutely.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Yeah, everything. I don't care how it move, had act.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

It ain't always got to be a guy that's bigger than you. Yeah, okay. We don't need to go there. We don't need to go to. We go. We, we go. We go. Proceed.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Come on. Now.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

I just say it, people think, oh, big bank take little bank, man. I see. Yeah. I don't see a situation doing. They ain't got no bank.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

And you know why? Hey, the one ain't got no bank, got a whole lot of time. Don't. Well, don't give, don't make. Don't make this no sermon.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

I ain't know. All right, all right.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Hey, don't make this no salary.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Look here, it happens. Happened to the best day. Oh, joda, look, that. That Haitian dude, man. What you got?

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

You ain't got nothing against Haitians, do you?

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Oh, nah, but you know, my Zoes love me down here, you know. You know, I'm, I'm, I'm damn near zo myself.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

They about scarred me just. I can just imagine, Joe, that man probably had it wrap all that meat riding his arm to pull out oo girl. Oh, that little 48 kicked in. Hey, Joe, you know, we from the South. You know, you get that home fight you gotta wrap around your arm after that, man wrap that thing right his arm to come up out of O girl. I said, oh, no. Hey. Oo shout out to your homeboy who came and got you, though. He.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Yeah, he came. He came and got me. Dog came and got me. Yeah, he put me up on game. That's all he could do. That's all they. Matter of fact, the funny thing about it, you know, when you're that Young Joe, if he had told me. If he had told me without taking me without seeing it. Yeah, I would have thought. I would have thought he was hating.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Hey, Joe, you see how that wrapped up right there. Like that come about. O. Your girl, she was coming back. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, man.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Hey, hey, y'.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

All.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Y' all chill. Y' all chill now.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Y' all chill.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Hey, hey, you know what? Hey, Joe. I ain't sharing no more story with y'. All.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Hey, you see?

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Hey, Joe. Hey, hey, Joe. I take a moment to be vulnerable and tell him about something from the past, and here he goes.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, what you say? He had. He had. Hey, hey, Joe, the man. Hey, Joe, they said that man came up out of the thing like this. Yeah. I'm sorry, chad. I'm sorry, chad.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Hey, hey, listen.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Oh, man.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Hey, hey, listen. Hey, Joe, I could. I could laugh about it now, Joe. I could laugh.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

I know, man. Hey, I know hard. Hey, boy. Hey, for a little sophomore at about 15, 16 years old, that's.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Yeah, yeah, Joe, I was 15. I was 15, Joe. I was a baby, Joe. I was a baby.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

I'm sorry. I'm sorry right about. I'm sorry, man.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Now you.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Oh, man. I think o. I think it is. I think this. This Laurier guy, Man, I done seen you take at least two shots. Yo, I got it. I got hot in here, man. Guess that. Hey, that little.48 kicked in. Yes, sir.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Hey, hey, y' all got. Y' all got me in here crying. That was funny.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

I know. You gonna tell another story with your. I gotta be. Hey, hey, Uncle's got some company tonight, huh?

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Hey, hey, are you. Are you. Are you drinking good tonight, boy? You got company over there.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

I be you. You. When you tell the story, man, you know, I was. I'm in it with you, cuz. I feel like I was there, and I can imagine, you know, I'm hurt, too.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Hey, hold. Hey, hold on. Hey.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Hey.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

How you came. About how he came.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Hey, I'm sorry with your.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Man.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

I'm sweating. That thing got me sweating up in here.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Hey, now, that. Well, that was funny.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Back to our normal schedule programming Cam. Ward says he wants to have a role in the process of finding the next head coach war that. Ward said he's spoken to football president of football operations Chad Brinker and general manager Mike Borgonza about wanting to be involved. From the first steps of the process to finding Brian Callahan's permanent replacement, Ward says he wants to help find someone who can build successful foundation for the franchise. I want to meet with all of them, every coach who's going to get an opportunity to come here. I want to meet them, have a conversation throughout the whole process with them because that's someone that I'm going to be here with for that time. So we got to just continue to be being around, being open and no matter what, whoever they. We tried to hire, because I know at the end of the day, we do hire going to be the right fit for us. Whether it's a defensive person or an offensive person, they're going to make sure every person is in the right place, make sure every person is set up for success.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Oh, it's too soon. Hey, Joe, no disrespect, I love Cam Ward. I love, I love him. But you haven't proven yourself to that point to be, to be, to be integrated in, in the mix when it comes to the, the coaching, coaching decisions.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

He can't have a little say so?

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Absolutely, absolutely. Absolutely not.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

I mean, but that's, that's the most important position. He ain't got no cash. He ain't got no, he ain't got. He ain't got enough skin in the game though, that, those kind of decisions. Those are 44 Peyton Manning. Those are 44 Tom Brady. Those are 44 Patrick Mahomes, John Elway or Dan Marie. That's who those. No, no, no, no, no.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

You got to be proven, Joe. I mean, I know you're the number one pick in the draft, but you got to be proven. And if, if you haven't proved yourself, you got to be well on your way to being one of the best at your position to be able to. That had that kind of cachet to be. Okay, I want to be in the conversations, I want to be in the meeting rooms and having some type of voice when it comes to who we have as a neck next head coach. Because that's someone that I'm gonna have to deal with the most.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Yeah.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Nah.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Yeah.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Absolutely not.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

I'm trying to think. Hold on, let me think, let me think. I'm trying to go back where I can. I now off the top of my head, a rookie, I can't recall. Hell, Ben Roethlisberger had won a Super Bowl. The Rooneys didn't ask him about hiring Mike Tomlin. He meet with nobody?

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

No.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Like I said, that's a, that's a Peyton Manning in his prime. That's a Tom Brady. That's, I mean, bare few. Now maybe in basketball, because that's totally different, but in Football terms. Nah, the reason. The reason why I'm saying that is if that's the most. That's one of the most important positions on the field. Him and the coach need to have some type of cohesion to where they're both on the same page. You know what I mean? Like, you want your quarterback to be comfortable. And I just feel like I kind of understand what Cam is saying, but I understand what you guys are saying as well. Like, he may not be the first or second person to know, but to have some insight on who we gonna get. He said he want to meet with them, Joe. He want to meet. He want to have actual input.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

That ain't. That ain't happening. I like where his head is at, though. Huh? I like. I like the energy. I like. I like that.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

I don't. Like I said in football, I don't know, they don't normally afford players that kind of cachet. They don't. I'm trying to think. They didn't afford that to Brett, they didn't afford that to Aaron. They didn't afford that to. Well, Brady only had one coach, and that was Coach Belichick. Peyton. It was already just like. Because Jim Caldwell was already the OC And Tony Dungy left early because he wanted to make sure that he left the cupboards full. So Jim Caldwell just stepped right in. Peyton had worked with him, and so I'm. I'm sure Peyton was fine with that. And. And I think. I think. Who's the general manager at the time? I can't think of his name, but I'm sure he. Because he. He drafted Peyton and Peyton. Peyton got there in 98.

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Coach.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

Coach, what you call him left in, like 2000, and they won the Super bowl in 2006. I think he left himself. I think he left in seven, and also Jim Caldwell took over in eight or nine, so. Yeah, but.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Ah.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

That'S asking an awful lot for a first to check of your player.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Yeah, yeah, it is. It is. And listen. Hey, hey, Joe and Unc. This is with good intentions as well. This is with great intentions, I'm sure, you know, based on why he wants to do it.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

And then you have to have the owners there. Ojo. You got to be great with the owner. You got to look at the relationship that Peyton Manning and Jim Ursley had. That's a whole different ball game. The relationship that John Elway and Mr. Boland had.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Right.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

They had a business together. So you got to. I mean, that ain't. Just like. General manager is one thing. You got to have the ear of the owner. And there are various players that have that type of relationship with an owner.

[Host 2 (Ocho)]

Yeah, yeah, that's true.

[Host 1 (Unc)]

So boy, that's. Boy, that's asking an awful lot for, like I said, the first a lot. Yes, a lot. But we'll see. Maybe they'll give him that.

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