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Nightcap Hour 1: Johnny Manziel, Shannon Sharpe & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Alabama beats Vanderbilt at home, the Florida Gators beat Texas in a thriller and Colorado FALLS AGAIN!
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Dan
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Hey, I'm Ty. And I'm Dan and we're the Solid Verbal College Football Podcast. College football is pure chaos and that's exactly why we love it. The Solid Verbal will keep you sane through all the madness. We'll break down the big games and storylines and of course highlight the weird stuff. The Solid Verbal is your home for everything college football, serious, silly and everything in between. Listen to the Solid Verbal College Football podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts from. NBA champion Stephen Curry comes shot ready. A powerful, never before seen look at the mindset that changed the I fell.
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Shannon Sharp
In love with the grind.
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Ocho
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Shannon Sharp
I'm passing the ball to you.
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Johnny Manziel
Let's go.
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Dan
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Johnny Manziel
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Ocho
What up? What's going on?
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Johnny Manziel
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Ocho
Look, I think it's one of Those things where sometimes when you go down to Miami and you hit that south beach, you're around there, you may get your swagger back a little bit. Yeah. You get a program that's been hungry for success. You get a coach that has a lot of success, he's a great coach. You get a new start. Georgia wasn't for him and what he was doing, but you still saw flashes. You still saw pieces of what he was as a player. And now you look seven incompletions were at 75%, damn near on a completion percentage, 241, four TDs. He's only taking one sack. That's good, efficient ball. You look at them right now, top five team in the country and rolling. You look at what they have, rest of their schedule. This is a Miami team that is poised for the playoffs with a quarterback that's playing very well. And the rest of the team that is. Yeah. When you look at it, the end of this game, does it look a lot closer than what it actually was? I'm sitting here watching this game tonight. It really. 28 to 3. Yeah, it's really, really what it is. You can call it what you want it to end and like whatever it may be, but this was a beat down and a team that's playing really well. You look, they go to Louisville at home, Stanford at home, on the road to SMU, Syracuse, NC State, VA Tech and PIT. You're telling me we can't, we can't clean that up? We can't come out here and do.
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Johnny Manziel
What we need to do?
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Ocho
This is a team that's playing well and the U is hungry for success.
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Johnny Manziel
As long as they don't look too far ahead. Ocho, I like what Miami is doing. They're playing really well on both sides of the football. They're attacking the quarterback, getting after the quarterback. And you're, you're right. At the end of the day, it's going to come down to Carson Beck. Can he take care of the football? Can he continue to play as well as he's been playing? Because as long as they don't look too far ahead. Because as Johnny laid out some of their schedule ahead, sometimes you can look too far like, oh man, damn. And somebody nipped you at the tape. Ocho, what did you like? Let's stay on Miami.
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Shannon Sharp
Yeah.
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Johnny Manziel
What did you like about what you saw from the Canes?
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Shannon Sharp
Well, listen, obviously Carson Beck, Carson Beck looking really well. Everyone talked trash about him getting the NI money and coming to Miami, you know, saying he wasn't going to be what we think he is, despite what he's being paid. But obviously he's lived up to expectations.
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Johnny Manziel
Correct.
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Shannon Sharp
See the receiving core. Hey, C.J. daniels. Joseph Trader Ray. Ray Joseph. And the legendary. Stay with me real quick. The legendary day, counting Daylight. Antonio Brown, his son Malachi. Tony out there cutting up. You know, he got. He got some. He got some big shoes to feel. And he's doing it very well, I'm sure. Making Pops proud. It's really good. And it makes Carson Beck job absolutely easy because of his supporting cast. When you have a supporting cast like that, it makes your job easy. And obviously they're able to establish the running game as well, and that allows them to move the ball the way they do. At one point, the score was 28 3. All those garbage points. I hate when coaches do this, Johnny, and they do it in NFL as well, is you get a substantial lead and you take your foot off the gas. And I think they do it on a purpose because everybody does the same thing instead of run the goddamn scoreboard up.
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Johnny Manziel
I think the thing is, is that Ocho is easier to play from behind than it is to play for from ahead. Because you throw caution to the wind when you're behind because what the hell, I have to lose ocho, I'm down 28 3. So if I lose 41 to 3, ain't nobody going to say nothing. And so you do get a little cautious. We throwing a little run here and there because they like the same thing with Atlanta. You see, they were aggressive, just like you want them to be. And now they had the biggest loss in postseason history, and it happened to be in the biggest game in postseason history because they were like, oh, well, Ocho wanted to stay aggressive. And they let a team get back into the ball game. You ahead 28 3. You shouldn't have fewer rush attempts than the team that's down 28. 3. But that's what the Falcons had. And I understand that. But I'm a firm believer, Johnny. You let me know what you think. I think it's easy to play from behind than it is ahead because like I said, I can run triple reverse, I can run a flea flicker, I can do whatever I want to do because I'm already losing by 33 scores. So. So what if I lose by 4 scores or 5 scores? It's like a Dan Marino used to say all the time. Hell, if I threw three picks, who the cares if I threw five? I'm gonna keep. I'm gonna keep gunning yeah, it definitely.
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Ocho
Gives you that mindset and that attitude to just go out and let it rip and it doesn't really matter. Like you throw a pick and what. We get beat. We get beat. At the end of the day, it's a win loss into the game decision. You either come out with the dub or you come out with the nail. One of the two. But playing ahead and getting ahead and having them kind of crawl back in definitely tightens up your playbook, changes what you're doing. And when you're behind, you ain't got no choice but to send it to try and get back in this thing. You're taking your shots. You know, that middle read you may have, that's never really on. On the. On the playbook for that play, but it gets a little bit open, you rip it in that situation type of thing. So, you know, look overall for this game, super surprising last week after what Florida State did early in the season, to go and lose a game like Virginia and then you have a chance to try and bounce back and play a good Miami team, and you're really not competitive. Does the score at the end of it look like you may have been? Sure, but in reality you really weren't. So got to be disappointing for Florida State. Got to be back to the drawing board. I still think they have good pieces, but it's not going to be this year.
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Johnny Manziel
Yeah, I agree. I. And I think the thing is, when they beat Atlant, when they beat Atlanta, beat Alabama in the fashion that they beat him, we had very high expectations because you looked at the ACC is down this year. Clemson is not what Clemson normally is. And so that's really the only really true test that we think that was in the acc. But then as you mentioned, Johnny, they go, I think it was a Thursday night, and they go to Virginia and the Cavaliers nip them. Now they come home. Now, look, Miami ain't no pushover, but we looking at them like, okay, this is going to be a very interesting game considering. But now all of a sudden, we looking at them like, man, they. Man, they went on the road and lost to Virginia, but Virginia might be better than we thought they were because they wanted to close ballgame again today, guys. So Virginia might be better than we previously thought, but I definitely, I definitely agree that Florida State. I'm disappointed in what I've seen over the last two weeks. Miami is what we thought they would be. That's the reason why they've been ranked so high coming into the season. People had a lot of expectations. And as you mentioned, Ocho, this is why you give somebody a $4 million. Like, we're a quarterback away. We had a quarterback that goes number one in the draft. And so let's. We still have pieces coming back if we can get another facilitator. I like our chances. And they pulled the trigger. But Miami, this is still in state.
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Ocho
This is still in state. This is still one of those battles in state. If we're in Texas and we're playing another Texas team, you want to come out and show some pride and show some love for your state.
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Johnny Manziel
Yeah.
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Ocho
So this. This is no. This is no like, oh, we get a good team coming to town. It's just a game on the schedule. You look at their schedule for Miami, this is the last ranked team they currently play for the rest of the season. For Florida State, they're trying to bounce back off a bad loss, but if they win this game, they're right back into where they want to be for playoff contention. You beat Bama, who's now rolling, and. And you beat Miami. So you. You're coming into this game of pride, a full week of practice, and you know what you're up against. And at the end of the day, they didn't bring their best stuff. But it's still interstate where you're trying to go out and beat somebody that's a neighbor, right?
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Johnny Manziel
Yeah. It's. When you play these. When you have these kind of teams, you got the U. You got Florida state, and you got Florida. And the thing you like, it's almost like the commander in chief trophy. I won't brag it. Rice, bro. Right. You know, you Army, Navy, in the air Force, bro. I'm trying to kick both of y' all ass because I want that trophy. It is what it is. We. Look, we might not be going to no bowl game, and we might only win three games or two games, but as long as those two games is army and Navy, if you're the air Force, if you're. If you're air Force, if it's against army and navy, or if you're Navy, it's against air Force in the army, I don't care, but I want that trophy. And so that's how Miami looks at. Like, look, we want to be king. Because it's a recruiting battle also. Yeah. You know, you try to. Hey, y' all think about going to Florida. Y' all saw what we did to him. Yeah. You think about going to Florida State. You saw what we did to him. Y' all need to come on down there to the U. Cause ain't nothing popping in Gainesville and ain't nothing popping in Tallahassee.
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Ocho
Something popping Gainesville tonight.
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Johnny Manziel
Your boy DJ Langway played really well tonight and he and he needed to. Let's talk about the game you was talking about earlier. Alabama Beats gets their revenge on Vanderbilt. Unfortunately, Diego Pavia, he couldn't replicate his performance from last year historic upset of the Crimson Tide in Nashville. Pavia's two red zone turnover Saturday helped Alabama Avengers first loss to Vanderbilt in four decades. Ty Simpson was sensational again. 23 of 31, 340 yards, two touchdowns as the Crimson Tide comes away with points on each of their first four trips in the red zone. Johnny, I know the Tide we're getting after you today, but is Bama back?
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Dan
I'm Dan, he's Ty. Hello. And we're the solid verbal college football podcast. College football season is here and you know what that means. Your team is going to break your heart three times probably before Halloween. Uh huh. But fear not, the solid verbal will be right there with you through every soul crushing loss and impossible comeback. Join us all season long, all year long, as we ride the roller coaster of this ridiculous sport. Whether you're a die hard fan or a casual observer, we'll help you make sense of all the chaos and of course celebrate the madness. Tune in for previews, recaps, bits you won't hear anywhere else, and all the emotional support you need as a college football fan. We don't just love college football, Ty, we live it. Listen to the solid verbal college football podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Johnny Manziel
Hey, this is Matt Jones.
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Dan
And I'm Drew Franklin and this is NFL Cover Zero. We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining. And twice a week that is exactly.
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Johnny Manziel
What you're gonna get.
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Dan
We're just here to try to give.
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Johnny Manziel
You an NFL perspective a little bit different.
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Dan
Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game.
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Johnny Manziel
What was that?
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Dan
Looks like something that should not be sold.
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Johnny Manziel
Oh my.
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Dan
So that was my other big Colts takeaway.
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Johnny Manziel
They sold that?
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Dan
Yes. Might want to go back to the.
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Ocho
Cold at the Colts stadium.
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Dan
Yeah, I might want to go back to the drawing board on that. Yeah, I thought the shape we had with pretzels was working pretty well. It's worked for generations. We're just here trying to enjoy it. We hope you all will join us throughout the year. And let's go. I hope I'm as youthful as Pete Carroll is at his age. He's a young 73. He is a young 73.
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Johnny Manziel
He is spry.
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Dan
I would say. I wouldn't fight him.
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Johnny Manziel
I would listen to NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin on.
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Dan
The iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever.
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Johnny Manziel
You get your podcast.
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Sarah Spain
Get fired up, y'.
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Johnny Manziel
All.
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Sarah Spain
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Dan
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Ocho
I fell in love with the grind. You have to find joy in the work you do when no one else is around. Success is not an accident.
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Shannon Sharp
I'm passing the ball to you.
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Johnny Manziel
Let's go.
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Dan
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Ocho
If Ty Simpson is going to play at that level of football and they are going to be punishing up front like what I saw live and in person today, the gaps in the holes that they had from an offensive standpoint today were massive. They were gashing Bandy all day. And coming into this game, you know, you look at the schedules of both teams, bandy had scored 35 plus in every game there's a game where they scored 70 that your offense is rolling. Okay. And the only question was, is Vandy's defense in the trenches good enough to hold up? And in reality, when you look at it today and you see and you watch the game from the sideline, the answer was no. And it is a team game. I, I think if you look at what Diego Pavia did in the first half of this game, he played great. I think from an offensive play calling standpoint and what they do offensively, great, they do a lot of motion. They did an unbelievable little fake run where your running back comes back and they option it to him and he scored. They're creative and. And to get back to your question a little bit, Bama is playing at a level right now where they can compete with anybody in the country. If Ty Sims, if Simpson is going to play ball the way that he has played the last two weeks, Alabama has a chance to play with anybody in the country. I had to go up to him after the game. I'm on the field. I'm obviously sitting there in a Diego Pavia jersey. That is my dog. And people were asking me in the stadium, well, you're wearing that jersey. I'm like, what do you want me to do walking here in a Mark Ingram jersey and I can't go back to a. M. In two weeks. You want me to do this is my guy, a guy I talk to weekly and I'm pulling for him. Now you look at it overall and I went up to Diego after the game. This doesn't change anything for Vandy. I think they didn't play well in the second half but they can have a loss in the sec. He can have a game like that and still do the things that he wants to do and they want to do as a team. Do they have a tough schedule? Sure. But you lost to a good team on the road. And Brian Denny, which if you go back through history, not a lot of people have won that. And I, as that game started to get out of hand, those fans started to come down that field area and started to rip me apart. You're gonna see some clips of me busting out a Heisman and tell people to shine my trophy because I hadn't been back there since 2012 in that stadium. Ain't nothing you can say to me. I'm sitting here supporting my boy. And oh yeah, by the way, I already did what I needed to do in this stadium. I already got something that's at my grandma's house for the rest of my life. So I'm good. Y' all can sit here. I'm chilling. And by the way, people in Tuscaloosa, nice. Look at this house. People taking care of me. They love me out here. Except for you little frat punks. We good. And last thing, I got all my money back. I lost on Vandy tonight, so.
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Shannon Sharp
Bang.
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Johnny Manziel
Yeah, Bama look good. Hey, Ocho, you see that 370 pound fullback, that running back?
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Shannon Sharp
Hey, hey, let me tell you something. When he makes it to the next level, whatever team takes him needs to keep him in that same. In that same area of, of special plays and being a gadget player and the one, the one coach of the.
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Ocho
One team, I think he Lions. The Lions.
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Johnny Manziel
Why would they.
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Shannon Sharp
Hey, Dan Campbell. I was just getting ready to say it.
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Ocho
I was already thinking.
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Johnny Manziel
Because you saw, because you saw it throw a screen pass to Panay Su. You see him throw a back shoulder, fade the Decker tackle. So they know that their office of Ben Johnson and I don't know the coordinator now, but they, hey, they'll. They'll try anything anywhere because it's all about winning and they don't. Hey, you playing well. Hey, son, you ever caught a ball? You ever caught a pass before? Not a long time, but we're gonna throw your ass one this week. So get, get ready.
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Shannon Sharp
So funny when you think about it. At what point, at what time, has it ever. All I can think about is refrigerator, prayer. The fridge.
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Johnny Manziel
Yeah, the fridge. Yeah.
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Shannon Sharp
Yeah. Getting that dive back in the days, I had never seen anything like that before. But now to see a guard or a tackle out there catching screen passes, running the ball too, handing it.
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Johnny Manziel
Ocho. He was the Ocho. They put him in an offset eye. He got. He came to the quarterback with the pocket and Then bounced it.
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Shannon Sharp
I ain't never seen nothing like that.
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Ocho
Hold on.
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Shannon Sharp
You ain't see his footwork when he caught the. The screen.
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Johnny Manziel
Oh, last week, last week in Georgia. Yeah.
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Shannon Sharp
You ain't see the footwork on the sideline.
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Johnny Manziel
Ocho. And then he tried to drive for the pot. He tried to die for the pylon. But you know, he had that harness on. Oh, you know you got that harness on. You can't really raise your arm too high to keep it from going so high. But it was fun to watch. But when you look at. I agree with what both of you said about. Especially you, Johnny, about Vandy. When you look at Vandy, their defense is really good because they got out. They got after Ty Simpson in the Alabama offensive line. They did pressure him, but they got a quarterback now. It's hard to win in today's game at any level if you don't have that guy. Now there was upon a time if you had an outstanding defense.
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Ocho
Yeah, you can have anybody.
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Johnny Manziel
You can run the football and win. Yeah. Not anymore. Those days are long gone.
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Shannon Sharp
Hey, hey, you can't. And Johnny, I'm sure we'll talk about this team most of the time, especially today's game, that you throw the ball so much. You have to throw the ball to win because some of the defenses aren't as good as they used to be back in the day. The one player that you can't hide and will get exposed is your quarterback. Yeah, Asia, quarterback. And. And I saw today because the entire world where they told me, Johnny, I'm sure you heard it, Nuck. I'm sure you heard it, that he was the next some. He was the next coming of Jesus Christ. Or he was supposed to be.
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Johnny Manziel
Right.
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Shannon Sharp
Well, you know, I'm going with that.
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Johnny Manziel
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharp
Oh, yeah, yeah.
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Johnny Manziel
It's. It's tough. It's tough to play without a quarterback now because like you said, Ocho, there's. That's the only position that you can't hide, Right? I can roll coverage. I can slide the line. I can chip if I'm the running back. You know what I'm saying? If a guy doesn't have great hands, I bring somebody else in, let him play third downs. If the guy. You know, I can do a lot of different things to hide a lot of players. I, you know, I can slam my offensive line to keep you off. Off my excuse, my defensive line to keep you off my backers. But the quarterback, how. How do you hide it?
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Ocho
You can't. And listen, today in this game, the One thing about college football that's different from the NFL is an NFL Cover 2 defense. You watched it. There were teams. I had Brian Erlacher on my podcast. He like, man, we ran cover two all day long.
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Johnny Manziel
Yes.
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Ocho
Cover two in college football, if you were not really fundamentally sound and where you're supposed to be and your backers get depth and your corners play it right. Vandy today stayed in Cover 2 for too long and Ty Simpson did what he needed to do with his eyes and threw the whole shot maybe six times.
- [28:38]
Johnny Manziel
Yep.
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Ocho
Oo when you got wide open hole shots all day on third down, second down and long, they're getting behind the sticks. Vandy gets a second and 20. Bang. Whole shot for 18 and it's third and two. Those were plays where they just got. I'm just sitting there on the sidelines screaming like, give me a two man. Mix it up. They. They ran a simple stick and. And go on the outside corner and backer bow jump on this, on the. The low route. And he and Ty Simpson just drills the whole shot before the safety can get there. And it's like 15 yards, 16 yards, 22 yards, and you can't have that. And they just got eaten away. And especially when you're getting gashed in the run game too, and you do finally get that and you do finally get into long situations and you can't get off the field, you're not going to have success. I'm going three. Give me some quarters. Give me something.
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Shannon Sharp
Hey, hey, Johnny. In situations like that, you see a game like today, you got to be able to take away something. Either you going to take run or you going to take away the pass. But you can't allow them to dominate on both sides. You can't allow them to be successful in the pass and the run. Then you at their mercy and you.
- [29:50]
Johnny Manziel
Look, we know how to get you out of COVID too, Ocho. We run your ass out of COVID too.
- [29:54]
Shannon Sharp
Absolutely.
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Johnny Manziel
And because Alabama was running the ball well enough, those line, if the linebackers take one step forward now, that's an extra couple of steps that you're gonna have to take to get back. And then by that time, Bama receivers are in those gaps too late.
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Shannon Sharp
Yep.
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Johnny Manziel
And that's. And that's what you have to do. Now. A lot of teams play what we call tap play, Cover two, and they call it run camper too, where they take the mic back and they run. But when you do that, yeah, you. But here's the thing. You. Hey, you take off like you Trying to get down the hole and then you just stop or you run. You run him down the hole and you take the receiver that's outside the numbers and run him on the dagger route.
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Ocho
Yeah, they did it all night. They did it all night. It didn't matter what they did. They, they. And then even in early in the game, even in, in cover three, they were just seeming it, making sure like it was just a good offensive game plan from Bama. And to be honest, Vandy coming out in the second half and not being able to score points, having a couple three and outs and giving them the ball. So much time of possession for Alabama versus Vandy in the second half was atrocious if you're a Vandy fan. But listen, this is still a good football team in Vandy. It's a trending forward Alabama team. And so many people after last week when we spoke were like, man, you're a bam hater and this and that. I ain't gotta love them. I ain't go there. What are we talking about? I respect the SEC and I love SEC football. There's a lot of people here that treated me great today in Tuscaloosa that respect what I did and respect the matchups we had. So you got to look at it the same way with Diego Pavia and what Vandy did last year. They came and got the better of you. Out of nowhere now you come back, you get your revenge and it's a good game. But it's split one one. They're saying you, you, it is what it is. And to be honest, these teams may meet again.
- [31:48]
Johnny Manziel
Also, this is not your, your father and your grandfather's Commodores. I mean, when, when, when, when was the last time I mean, we saw a Vandy ranked 16. When do we have last time we spec that saw expectations. Normally you go into Vandy, you going to get a great education. You go into Alabama, you try to go to the NFL, you go to Georgia, you trying to go to the NFL.
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Ocho
I was telling, I was telling a story today. I was telling a story today. When we played Vandy in 2013, I had half a shoulder, half an ankle and went 25 at 26 and the ball barely never touched the ground and we were out there toying. This ain't that Vandy.
- [32:22]
Johnny Manziel
And, and, and it's not.
- [32:24]
Ocho
Props to them, Props to their program, props to what they've done. But sometimes when you take the goal post out and you run it all the way down Broadway to the river, that doesn't sit well. With Alabama fans. And they were. They were juice for that one today.
- [32:38]
Johnny Manziel
Oh, man, look. They lucky. They lucky they ain't scoop up Alabama buses and take them and throw them in that damn river. We beat your ass in four decades on Joe. I mean, think about it. Some of their parents wasn't alive last time they beat. Beat Alabama. And you think, I'm not gonna do something crazy. You could find us a million dollars. The goal post coming down on both ends. Not just one. Both of them. I'm taking both. B, O, F, F. Both down. Man. Come on. That's better. Think about it. Vanderbilt beating Alabama.
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Shannon Sharp
Yeah. Been a long time since.
- [33:14]
Johnny Manziel
Yes.
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Ocho
How do we feel about Kellen DeBoer's seat now? Two weeks later than what we were talking about three weeks ago?
- [33:24]
Johnny Manziel
He heard all the talk.
- [33:25]
Ocho
They. They put a little cushion under that thing, huh?
- [33:28]
Johnny Manziel
Yeah, absolutely did. They absolutely did. Look, I think the thing is when you. They. I think they said his record, I think he's like 117 and 17.
- [33:38]
Ocho
But you @ Alabama, that ain't that James Franklin record.
- [33:43]
Johnny Manziel
Alabama measures success in SEC championships and national championships. That's how they measure success. You. Okay, you want to be 10 and 3, but if you bring us the SEC championship and you go play for the. You go play for a national championship, we'll forgive that. All that. 12 and 1. 13 and 1. And you ain't in the SEC championship game and you're not in the. The national chip.
- [34:05]
Shannon Sharp
Right?
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Johnny Manziel
Man, Bam. Ain't trying to hear all that because they. Because what they gonna say, Been there, done that. Yeah. Those are fans that are spoiled. You get. You get Coach Bryant for two decades, and then you get another two decades out of Nick Saban. You win third, you win 12 national championships. How many did you play for? How many SEC championships did you win? That's the expectations of Alabama.
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Ocho
That's as I'm rooting. As I'm rooting for Bandy today. And people are looking at me like, we're hosting you here and this and that. I go, how many times have y' all won or been. How much success? There's nothing you sprinkle in a loss here and there's. But it hasn't been consistent at all. So the Vandy and what they're doing with their success, I was pulling for that. And Pavia is a great kid. He is a great dude. He's got. I see so much of myself in him that I'm going to continue to be friends with him and try and help him. That's what I'm going to do. But you look at it, you guys both tell me what you think. The rest of the schedule for Alabama, they play at Mizzou next week. They play Tennessee at home, they play South Carolina on the road, they play LSU at home, and they play OU at home. And then in the season of course with Auburn. So this we're gonna see exactly what you're made of. You got.
- [35:23]
Johnny Manziel
Oh yeah, for sure.
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Ocho
You got three rank two ranked matchups coming up. South Carolina, who, who knows, they can get a little bit better. And then you got two more ranked matchups.
- [35:37]
Johnny Manziel
If he back.
- [35:38]
Ocho
Exactly. He'll be back here. Will be back by 11:15.
- [35:42]
Johnny Manziel
Okay, well, see, there you go.
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Ocho
It ain't stopping, it ain't slowing down. This is SEC football, baby.
- [35:49]
Johnny Manziel
Mizzou's gonna be tough. Yeah. South Carolina be tough on the road.
- [35:54]
Ocho
Tennessee. Tennessee shouldn't be Georgia.
- [35:57]
Shannon Sharp
Yeah.
- [35:58]
Johnny Manziel
It doesn't matter what Auburn's record is.
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Ocho
The Iron bowl is always the bowl.
- [36:03]
Shannon Sharp
Always good.
- [36:04]
Johnny Manziel
You already know I'm trying to wreck your season. I really am. I mean we're not going nowhere, so I like it. I mean we can't go. You can't even. The Gators wreaked havoc on Arch Manning to take down the number nine Texas Longhorns 2921. All that preseason hype with the number one ranking and all the excitements surrounding Arch Manning era are long in the rear view mirror. Arch finished with 263 passing yards, a pair of touchdowns and a pair of INTs. A defense that had been elite so far this season with gash for 159 rushing yards. By that Gators attack, there may be an outside chance this team can get back in championship capabilities.
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Ocho
But.
- [36:49]
Johnny Manziel
Texas don't look good, man. No.
- [36:51]
Shannon Sharp
Hey, and I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm. I'm going to go first. Obviously if they're to get in back in contention and have any chance at winning, let alone just throughout the season, as opposed to even thinking about getting at the playoffs, they have to have better quarterback play.
- [37:05]
Johnny Manziel
Uncle.
- [37:06]
Dan
I'm Dan, he's Ty. Hello. And we're the solid verbal college football podcast. College football season is here. And you know what that means. Your team is going to break your heart three times probably before Halloween. Uh huh. But fear not. The solid verbal will be right there with you through every soul crushing loss and impossible comeback. Join us all season long, all year long as we ride the roller coaster of this ridiculous sport. Whether you're a diehard fan or a casual Observer. We'll help you make sense of all the chaos and, of course, celebrate the madness. Tune in for previews, recaps, bits you won't hear anywhere else, and all the emotional support you need as a college football fan. We don't just love college football, Ty. We live it. Listen to the solid verbal college football podcasts on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, this is Matt Jones and I'm Drew Franklin, and this is NFL Cover Zero. We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining. And 20 twice a week, that is.
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Johnny Manziel
Exactly what you're going to get.
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Dan
We're just here to try to give.
- [38:21]
Johnny Manziel
You an NFL perspective a little bit different.
- [38:24]
Dan
Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game.
- [38:27]
Johnny Manziel
What was that?
- [38:27]
Dan
Looks like something that should not be sold.
- [38:30]
Johnny Manziel
Oh, my.
- [38:30]
Dan
So that was my other big Colts takeaway.
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Johnny Manziel
I sold that.
- [38:32]
Dan
Yes. Might want to go back to the Colts stadium.
- [38:35]
Johnny Manziel
Yeah.
- [38:35]
Dan
Might want to go back to the drawing board on that.
- [38:36]
Johnny Manziel
Yeah.
- [38:37]
Dan
I thought the shape we had with pretzels was working pretty well. It's worked for generations. We're just here trying to enjoy it.
- [38:43]
Johnny Manziel
We hope you all will will join.
- [38:45]
Dan
Us throughout the year. And let's go. I hope I'm as youthful as Pete Carroll is at his age. He's a young 73. He is a young 73.
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Johnny Manziel
He is spry.
- [38:53]
Dan
I wouldn't fight him.
- [38:55]
Johnny Manziel
I would listen.
- [38:56]
Dan
NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and.
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Johnny Manziel
Drew Franklin on the iHeartRadio app, Apple.
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Dan
Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
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Sarah Spain
Get fired up, y'.
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Johnny Manziel
All.
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Sarah Spain
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Dan
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Ocho
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Shannon Sharp
I'm passing the ball to you.
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Johnny Manziel
Let's go.
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Dan
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Shannon Sharp
They got to have better quarterback play. You got to see the field a little bit better. You got to understand what you're seeing, being able to process defenses before they happen. No disrespect, I'm just saying in general, your quarterback play is one of the reasons why you're in the situation you're in now. Now, despite what all the analysts say, all the people say and with the praises and how you're supposed to be, he's going to need a year like this. He's going to need a year like this with some bumps, some bumps and bruises and grinding and getting familiar with what was going on this year and May, and I'm assuming maybe next year he will come back much better having a year under his belt to get familiar with the speed of the game, being able to process things a little faster and know what's coming and knowing some of the nuances and what you can and can't do as far as taking chances with the ball.
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Ocho
Sometimes how it just feels to go into these stadiums and into these big games, right for him. It's not Arch's fault. And we have sat here and I've been critical of him and I've said certain things and it's not his fault. It's not his fault. His last name is what it is. It's not his fault that people were clamoring for him last year with Quinn yours. And when I saw the score tonight, of course, being an Aggie, they laugh at our pain every single year. We're the butt of the joke every single year. So now it's my turn. Okay, I'm laughing and I said, man, I bet you boys miss Quinn yours. I bet all that clamoring, all that jawing about Quinn, yours. Quinn was slinging it. Quinn got you to between two plays to get into the Natty, the Michigan year that they wanted. So listen, it's not Arch's fault. He's a sophomore. He is a young kid that is developing under a very good coach in a program that has potential. But this is a Florida team that we have sat here for countless minutes and said, what the hell they doing? Wait, can we get Urban? Can we get Jimbo? Can we get something? But you look Lagway played great. That is the lagway we expected to see. And when you look at it from a Texas standpoint, Arch Manning being the leading rusher with 37 yards and as a team rushing for 52, you can't get out your own shadow.
- [43:59]
Johnny Manziel
Nah.
- [44:00]
Ocho
Yeah, that, that two yards of carry two. Terrible. So look, this is a Texas team too, that has opportunity. You still got chances. You go and lose one to Florida, guess what? Guess what? Next week is that one split down the middle in Dallas.
- [44:21]
Johnny Manziel
Yeah, right.
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Ocho
Oh, they play OU ranked top five. You go win that game, it's gonna get ugly. You never know. Is Mater back? Maybe you catch them this year without their starting quarterback. All right, so for Texas, it's not all bad. They're going to catch some flack for the Aggies and me because we're finally winning. And you guys taking L versus a team that's been terrible. But at the end of the day for Arch, these are growing pains a year for him as a sophomore. He can come back two years and and be a great quarterback and have a great career and do what he needs to do and be a Texas legend. But for right now, this team, the preseason number one, they're not that team that we Thought they were.
- [45:02]
Johnny Manziel
No, I think the thing is, is that when you look at it, everybody all Texas fan, put an Arch. Put an Arch, y'. All, skewer. And I was like, I. I thought yours were bad. I wasn't clamoring for Arch Manning because I had seen enough, because I've seen him putting up stats against San Jose State. I said, bro, that's not SEC competition. Now when I see him put up numbers like that against SEC competition, then maybe I'll start clamoring for him. But the thing that's working against Arch is expectations and that last name, because the thing was happening, man, Peyton would have made that throw. Peyton would have did that. Eli. He ain't even Eli, bro. You do realize, like, those were number one overall draft picks. Both of them was number one overall draft picks. Peyton is a top five quarterback, and you might not take him out of the top three. With all that being said, Eli, just one of the best big game quarterbacks in NFL history. He beat Tom Brady twice in the most meaningful game that our sport has to. It has to offer. But, I mean, who's surprised? Did y'. All. Did y' all really. Y' all really thought that Arch Manning was gonna be Peyton? Y' all really thought that?
- [46:08]
Shannon Sharp
I did. I thought it was gonna be great. Because most of the time, you know what happens when you come from that type of lineage of. Of great quarterbacks. Most of the time, it trickles down one after another. It worked.
- [46:20]
Johnny Manziel
No, it don't.
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Ocho
But there's. There's one thing, Coach. You know, it's the mental side of things. It's the how to carry yourself side of things. It's what you see from the greats that you've been around with. Access that nobody in the world gets to see. But where he went to school, when you go watch Arch Manning highlight tape and you see the dudes that are chasing after him. Yeah, my grandma in a wheelchair moved faster than some of them boys. They were chasing after him, Right? He ain't play 6AMe and my boys were talking about this the other day. If he. You put him in 6A Dallas or Houston football, right? You're gonna see some dogs. Yeah, you're gonna see some people who could play. He didn't play that competition, so this is his first level of playing guys who are real, real dogs, right? You play in the SEC and you get an offer and you're a starter, you can play. You got the size, you got the speed. You don't see a lot of. You don't see a lot of bombs out there, so.
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Johnny Manziel
Yeah.
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Ocho
Yeah, it's gonna take some time for him to get used to that. And it's not his fault. That's just where he went to high school. I didn't, I, I didn't go to a high school that was 5A 6A in Texas. But my coaches were so gangster that they wanted to go play those guys in our non conference, right? Because they're like, you know what? Even if we get smoked, we're gonna see stuff that we may not see in the playoffs or we'll be ready for the playoffs. So it made us better. So this, if you handle it the right way, as he's gonna have Peyton and Eli and everybody in his ear, listen, failure produces growth. This stuff produces growth. If Texas goes 8 and 4 this year after being preseason number one, that's hungry off season, that's growth.
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Shannon Sharp
Yeah, and the funny thing too about it, about it. Johnny, enough like to. To kind of the piggyback of what I was saying about obviously Arch and, and I mean, I'm talking about Arch, Peyton and Eli being so good and why I thought, well, hell, well, maybe he's gonna follow right behind. Because I look at the Bosa brothers, I look at the Watt brothers, I just look at how they, they both obviously were great at their respective crafts. So I expected, after hearing all the noise about Arch, I'm expecting him because I, I've never seen him play. I never saw him play. I didn't see him playing in high school. Saw a small sample size of him as a freshman. So I'm thinking, well, hell, Quinn errors is now gone. I'm thinking he's gonna be all world and then come to find out it's really not what. What we. What I thought it would be and just growing pains. Growing pains.
- [48:45]
Johnny Manziel
Ocho, your point is valid when you look at brothers, but their dad wasn't the sons. Hey, Archie Manning. I remember Archie Manning playing. He's the number two pick in the draft. Yeah, he wasn't Payton. We talked about this. The likelihood. So you want God to just give you everything? You know what? I'm in the hall of Fame and I want my son to be great too. So Magic Johnson and all these kids with sons, you want them to be the equivalent of what their dad was. Bobby Barnes was an outstanding player. He wasn't Barry. Ken Griffey Sr. Was an outstanding major league player. He wasn't junior. Yeah, that ain't happening. So the likelihood of, like, really?
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Shannon Sharp
Yeah, I thought it would have been Three, I thought.
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Ocho
And.
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Shannon Sharp
He got a long way to go.
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Ocho
Now he got two. He got two full years after this one. So you can look up. He can stay, do the Colt McCoy thing. Stay his entire career at Texas.
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Johnny Manziel
Oh, I think he would. I think he will.
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Ocho
Years. And you could look up, he can be the number one pick in the draft in 2028 or whatever it may be. He can. He still has that, but he has to grow. He needs reps. He needs time. He's got the lineage. He's got everything. But like you said, it just takes some time, man. He. He's not where he needs to be or where everybody thought he was. Everybody wants things to move so quick. Get him out. He's the first pick in the draft this year. And that and reality. Let the kid be a kid and grow and get an education and have fun and grow into the player that he deserves and needs to be.
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Johnny Manziel
Right? Yeah. Look at. Look at Dale and stuff. Dale Curry played 16, 17 years in the NBA. Dale Curry is not his son. And that's no knock, because when you have that kind of longevity, obviously you can play.
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Shannon Sharp
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
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Johnny Manziel
But Steph Curry is a transcendent player. And so the likelihood, like I said, to be that. Like I said, you get brothers. Look. You get the Watts. Look at TJ and jj Me and my brother, Rondi and Tiki. You get Clay Matthews, and you get Bruce Matthews. Yeah.
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Ocho
In that situation, though, Unk. You guys get to grind together, right?
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Johnny Manziel
Yes.
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Ocho
You get to grow together. You got to see him and learn from him and follow in that. We're closer when it comes decades apart, right?
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Johnny Manziel
Yes.
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Ocho
And you see it from a sideline. When you're six years old and Peyton's winning a Super bowl, it's not the same as having your older brother two years apart. Who is. You're seeing it right in front of your face.
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Johnny Manziel
It's different because you asking yourself, am I. Am I too hard? Am I hard enough? And then he has to deal with. Your dad would have made that play, man. Your uncle would have completed that pass. Oh, yeah, You. Not your. Because I told you the story, Ocho, that Ken Griffey said he can't wait to see his son. And he still. Son struck out. And the guy sitting next to him said, hey, he's not you. And Griffey looked at him and said, name five players who were.
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Shannon Sharp
Ooh, that's a good one.
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Ocho
It's a bar.
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Johnny Manziel
So when you. When you. When you think about it now, you get an appreciation because Peyton took Over for Hilton, who ended up playing baseball, who was a great first baseman for the Colorado Rockies. And he didn't look back. Eli got in and he didn't look back. I don't think anybody was calling for Peyton or Eli to be replaced. And what he's up against is that legacy. That's what he's up against. And you know, Johnny, this. When you play in sec, you might get a legacy scholarship to go there. You damn sure ain't gonna get no legacy scholarship to get your ass on the field. Cause they all about winning. And they gonna put the best 11 on offense, the best 11 on defense, and the best 11 on special teams will trot out there every single time.
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Ocho
Your last name is not gonna save you from them looking in that transfer portal that can. Somebody that can bring somebody in and beat you out in the spring. Yeah, that's just the facts of the college football world we're in now. You can go slide a million and a half to somebody that played at a smaller school but has a lot of talent, but hasn't had the opportunity. And you could have somebody come in in the spring, in, in February, and he can, he can play and he can come in and beat you out and. And I don't think that'll be the case. But I definitely think if Texas, depending on how their season goes, they're not going to be accepting what. What it is right now and, and what's going on. And this is not a knock to arch. I think if you look at him overall as a player, has he struggled? Has he hit the things he needed to hit? Does he look like himself? No, but does he have the potential and the tools that he needs? Most likely. But you have to develop. And yes, he's with a coach that I believe is a good developer of talent, but absolutely, you have to look at it from a team standpoint, too. Texas lost a lot of pieces last year that made them really, really good. From a receiver standpoint, from a defensive standpoint, from a running. Running back stand like Golden.
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Johnny Manziel
What's the other guy name? They lost. They lost two receivers, right?
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Ocho
I think so, yeah.
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Johnny Manziel
Because one was talking about he's gonna run like he was gonna go. He's gonna break the record.
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Shannon Sharp
Matt. Matthew. They lost Matthew Golden.
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Johnny Manziel
Yeah, he agreed. They lost another one, too.
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Shannon Sharp
I forgot his name, I think.
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Ocho
Didn't he go to Isaiah Bond? Was it Bond?
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Johnny Manziel
Yes, yes, I've been Isaiah Bond. Yeah. The transfer from Alabama. Because he started at Alabama.
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Ocho
Yeah.
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Johnny Manziel
So. But.
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Ocho
But look, I mean, Texas still has a Program that is is a lot better shape than they were when you went through the Charlie Strong years and Mack left and they couldn't find a quarterback and they really struggled. I mean they, they have had a lot of success in the last couple years of getting into the playoff, being close to where they want to be and they're just not playing their best ball right now. But it doesn't slow down. You got OU this week. You got more games coming up like this SEC gauntlet. Depending on what your draw is throughout the year is tough, man. It is. We're talking about Bama schedule. We talked about A and M schedule last week. Like some teams may have it easier depending on it not being split down the middle and you playing set teams anymore. Like we don't play Bama this year. Lucky us. Normally two years ago we got to go to, we got to play them, we got, we, we got to play lsu. We play every team in our division. So now with it being this way, it really is luck of the draw and who you play is if they're good enough.
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Johnny Manziel
Johnny, you mentioned, talked earlier about DJ Langway because we felt that he hadn't been playing up to par, but he had himself a night tonight. 21 of 20 298, two touchdowns, had one INT. They ran the ball 37 times for 159 yards. Bond, Bond, Bob had 27 for 107 and Wilson had 6 for 111 and two touchdowns. So they got the balance that they needed to keep Texas off balance because they was running and Lagway had a day throwing the football. And this is the kind of, this is what we expected of Lagway at the start of the season. He was what, you know, preseason, he and Arch Manning like okay, obviously with Nussmeier they thought those are going to be the guys in the sec. But this was the best that he's looked and it might have taken Billy Napier off the hot seat guys for at least a week or at least Luther Vandross used to say, if only for one night, he gets to sleep easy tonight. Johnny.
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Shannon Sharp
Yeah.
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Ocho
Well here's the thing I don't like about this is I can enjoy it and revel in the Texas unsuccessfulness. Next Saturday, 10 11, Florida comes on down to College Station and that's a nice win for them to build off of a confidence builder for Lagway and us being a six ring team in the country. You know that you're playing a team that is capable of beating a top 10 team and you're going to have your hands full. So one week ago this looked like a game A and M could check off. Kind of you never want to just check through it, but it was one that you feel like you're going to be confident about winning. And now you kind of look at it and go, okay, we better tighten up because we're getting our best shot. For sure.
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Johnny Manziel
For sure. Dallas Wilson finished with six catches of buck 11 and two touchdown. It was the best debut for a freshman receiver at Florida in programs history. And we know some of the receivers that's come out of there, the high draft picks that's come out of the University of Florida. But this young man had the best debut game in Florida history. But like, yeah, Napier is off the hot seat because boy, hey, he lost his game. And now you talk about one in four. Oh, he got, he gotta get about it. He got to get up out of there, Johnny. And, and they still got, if I'm not mistaken, they still got their rivalry with Georgia. So. Oh yeah. Uk, UK keep losing all these games and then lose the Georgia Florida rivalry.
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Ocho
A M number six, they play Mississippi State, they play Georgia's number 12, they play Kentucky and then they go number four, Ole Miss, number 15, Tennessee, number 18, Florida State to finish the year.
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Johnny Manziel
Yeah, it ain't, look, boy, it ain't looking good for the home team, Mocho.
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Ocho
Yeah, but at least they showed in the locker room. At least you can go in the locker room and turn around and look be like, okay, we got it. Like we can. We, we went out and beat a Texas team that's ranked. Are they as good as we thought they were? Whatever. But it's a, it's a top tier SEC team and we got more of them coming up. So as a Florida locker room, this is a positive season building thing, right?
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Johnny Manziel
Yeah. We was talking about Billy Napier and Kaylin DeBoer being on the hot seat. James Franklin said, get y' all ass off that hot seat. Let me get on there. And sure enough, last Saturday's lost to Oregon. They lost the number two organ. But Lou, this Owen, 14, they had fired their entire staff. I don't know if that Rick Neuheisel's son, Jerry Neuheisel it is. Okay. Okay. So now it's the first loss Penn State in 34 games against an unranked team. Penn State, the first top 10 team to lose to an 0 and 4 team or worst opponent in 40 years since Texas El Paso knocked off the defending national champ in 1985, BYU. It was impossible For a play. Hey, hey. They ain't going to playoff now.
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Ocho
No.
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Johnny Manziel
You ain't losing that game.
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Shannon Sharp
No.
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Johnny Manziel
And going and going to the playoffs. Nico Amaleva, well, he played today. He didn't leave today. They probably. UCLA probably wanted him to go. John. If he had lost that game today. But he played outstanding today. He had 17 of 24, 166, two touchdowns, 16 rush attempts, 128 yards, three touchdowns. He was outstanding. And again, now everybody laughs. Last week when we was talking about James Franklin. Whoa. But, but he this, he that. Okay, now, now what y' all got? I'm, I'm, I'm interested to know what y' all got. The team fired their entire staff. I don't even know where they got Jerry Newhouser from. I don't know if he was on the staff or not. But all I know is that the number 17, 17 in the country, the seventh ranked team in the country, and you go on the road, they might have not won. They might have not have won 10 games in the last three years. And they had you die. As a matter of fact, they had you down at the half 277.
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Shannon Sharp
They had you fade. Hold on. They, they had, they had them favor. They had Penn State favorite to win by what, 24 if I'm not mistaken?
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Johnny Manziel
Something like that. Yeah.
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Ocho
UCLA covered plus 24 and a half. So, hey, that's one of those money lines you're looking for all year. Like, oh, that pays well.
- [60:36]
Johnny Manziel
I hope that wasn't your suicide pick. Cause you know, you have a suicide pick, you can pick them, but you can't pick them again.
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Shannon Sharp
Right?
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Ocho
Right.
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Johnny Manziel
Hey, here you are, week four and it's gone. Drew Allen, 19 to 26, 200 yards, two touchdowns. But he was your leading rusher with carries for 78 yards. UCLA ran the ball 53 times. 269 yards. I can just imagine what that time of possession was. When you run the ball that many times, you probably had the ball for. I go say you had the ball 40 minutes on your 39 minutes and 17 seconds.
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Shannon Sharp
Something like that.
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Johnny Manziel
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharp
If you got a team that's able to impose their will on you and run the ball at will like that, with that amount of yards and have that type of time possession, the chances of you winning, winning a game is slim to none. But when you do get the ball, you gonna have to match them score for score. And Penn State wasn't able to do that on either side of the ball. I'm not sure what's going on Especially him. To lose to an 04 tune like that. And the moniker that they, that we always hear, especially NFL, any given Sunday. Well, hell, any given Saturday, any Saturday. And that was the perfect example of that definition today. And what we saw from ucla.
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Ocho
Yeah, this, this is back to the drawing board, back to the drawing board for, for, for Penn State. This is, this is a back breaker. You come out and you play in the game last week where you real, have real opportunity to go and win and you feel like, you know what, we let that one slip, but we can build off it. And then you come out and you sit in the locker room at halftime and it's 277 and you're looking around, you're wide eyed, you're like, what's going on? And then the game ends the way that it does. UCLA team, it's been getting laughed at and it's been really tough and Nico's taking a lot of slack for what happened at Tennessee. So when you look at it in this game, you have to say respect to UCLA for doing what they needed to do, getting people in there and coming, getting a good win versus the top end team. And Penn State has to be sitting there just kicking themselves because this is a season ending kind of loss.
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Johnny Manziel
Oh yeah, for sure. Penn state only had nine third downs. UCLA was 10 of 16.
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Ocho
Damn.
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Johnny Manziel
So they converted more third downs than, than Penn State had. Gap total. You go 10 or 16, oh, you gonna have the ball a long ass time. Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick.
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Ocho
That's so frustrating.
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Johnny Manziel
Yeah, because you're hoping bad. Let's get the third down. Let's get the third down.
- [63:10]
Ocho
Then you get to a third and seven and they get. Gets you all the air gone.
- [63:14]
Johnny Manziel
Damn. Come on D. Come on D. Let's get him off the field. Come on. We ain't. Get him off the field. Get him off the field. That was, that was a huge look that. Go ahead. I was gonna say.
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Shannon Sharp
I mean obviously Johnny, you would know better than me. Coach, you, you understand how college football works as far as entities of this magnitude, especially Penn State that have a certain standard that they always go by or abide by. Does coach Franklin make it through the season, you think?
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Ocho
I don't think they're going to pull up those same stats we were talking about. I still think they're going to look at it as a guy who's built a good program, a guy that was successful at Vanderbilt. I still think they look at him as a guy that can get them where they want to go. That's just my opinion of the situation. It's one of those things too. You got to go replace him with somebody who can do what you want to do. And there's not a ton of guys just sitting out there that you can just go pluck.
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Johnny Manziel
Right.
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Ocho
You are Penn State, which is a prestigious program, but you are not Alabama. You are not Texas, Ohio State, Ohio State, Oregon. You, you are not that. You are not lsu. So you are a good program. But you can't just come in and buy somebody out of their contract or this. So if you get rid of a James Franklin, who is a good coach and a program builder, you don't want to take a step back and maybe taking a shot on somebody else. So I would think he'll get a grace year and you'll have to come back in next year. And if this continues, then it's something you look at seriously. But that's just my opinion situation and what I see, I agree that I.
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Johnny Manziel
Don'T think, I don't think they do anything in the middle of the season. This is not a situation like UCLA Ocho, because they looked at that situation like there is no, there is no light on the horizon. Right. We've gone through several years of this and this just isn't going to cut it.
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Shannon Sharp
Okay, I got you.
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Johnny Manziel
And you started off 03 this year. You lost to a team that you probably weren't supposed to lose to. They like, nah, we done. We, we've seen enough. We've seen enough. And they, they pulled a plug on it. So I'm not, I agree, Johnny. I don't think they do anything now. Maybe next year you go back it. But who's out there? You're not getting a coach to leave. Sark is not leaving Texas to go to Penn State. Now you might get some coordinator to go to Penn State, but to get a big time coach to leave a program. Nah, nah. You're not getting Freeman to leave Notre Dame. You're not getting Brian Kelly to leave LSU. Kirby Kirby ain't leaving Georgia. DeBoer is not leaving Alabama. Day is not leaving Ohio State. The guy at Michigan is not leaving Michigan. So Dan Lanning is definitely not leaving Oregon. So what? Who, who you gonna hire? You go. You go.
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Ocho
You go. Hi. Hire a creative up and Comer, a G.J. kenny type of dude who yes, built a good program but is in a smaller school or you go to the fired Football Coaches association is what John Gruden calls it and you go Find somebody who. Who got bought out for 90 million and try and get him up there and lure him in with another 150 and see how much he likes the bag. Yeah, yeah. That's your option.
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Johnny Manziel
People talking about Lane Kiffin? I think Lane Kiffin. Only job. Lane Kiffin, he'll leave and go to Alabama. That's the. I think that's the only job.
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Shannon Sharp
Go back.
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Johnny Manziel
First of all, if Bama call, everybody's listening.
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Ocho
Yeah.
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Johnny Manziel
That's the one school that everybody. Is this. You say you. You the A.D. for who? Alabama. The. Alabama. The elephant. That one. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. How you doing? Yeah, we just wondered if you. Okay. You listen. Listen. Yeah, Dick Sable was at Miami. Miami? The Dolphins. Alabama called, he took that call. He's like, man, you know what? Hey, this little bit of money y' all paying me ain't worth it. They don't wanna listen. Let me go somewhere that these kids wanna get to this level, and they'll listen to every. And they'll hang on and listen to every damn word I say, where I.
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Shannon Sharp
Got a little bit more control.
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Johnny Manziel
And he built a factory down there.
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Shannon Sharp
Oh, yeah.
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Johnny Manziel
Johnny, your team, Texas A M, The Aggies. Number six. Aggies, 31. Nine over Mississippi State. They remain under undefeated. Ended up five yards of carry for the game, nearly exceeding 300 yards. They had 54 carries, 299 yards rushing.
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Shannon Sharp
Jesus.
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Johnny Manziel
Well, if you got that many yards rushing, you got 40 minutes on your hands. Maybe. Maybe a little more. 38, 17. So 23, first down, seven of 15. Mississippi State was one of 10 on third down. Surprised the score wasn't more lopsided than that. 479 total yards to 219, 13 to 23 for your guy, Marcel Reed didn't ask. He wasn't asked to do a whole lot, but they got the job done. 31 to 9. I don't know how much of this game you saw, Johnny, but what did you like about what you saw? If you did watch some of what you like about what you saw? Because I know you're. You're a big Reed fan.
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Ocho
Yeah, no, listen, I watched a little bit of it, but I think you look at the last two weeks for a M, you get into SEC play, right? They've given up 10 points versus Auburn and nine versus Mississippi State. That is playing very solid, fundamental defense. Flying, rallying to the football, not missing tackles, doing the right things. The cool thing, too, for A M. The Aggie should be excited about, is when you rush for 300 yards, the pressure Comes off of Marcel Reed. So Marcel Reed can now have a 56 completion percentage, throw a pick, only throw for 180 yards, and he only rushed for 30. But it's not one of those things where you're taking 500 bricks and putting it on his back. Right. You got a defense that's getting you back on the field quickly. You got a. An offensive line that's helmet to helmet, moving, moving the line of scrimmage, and you have a running back that's going for over 100 yards. It's team complimentary football.
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Johnny Manziel
Yep.
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Ocho
And that's what you want to see. That's the making of a good team. Not where you're lopsided and your offense has to carry and take over for your defense or whatever it may be. But for Texas A M, this is another check of the box of an SEC win. In a game that normally, if you don't come out and have your preparation and everything, T's crossed, eyes dotted and everything, you can lose a game like this. But I think Elko has the guys rolling. I think he has them focused, and I think you have to look at them and say they are contenders. We another check on the box for.
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Johnny Manziel
A M. Man, I watched an A and M come out that tunnel. Boy, they were hype. Boy, they think they had that thing. That thing was live, man. I said, okay, and if y' all might be. Y' all might be ready. Hey, what the A and M defense held. Miss held Mississippi state to under 220 yards of total offense. So when you can run it for 300, hold the opposing team to under 220 in a college game with all the plays that they're going to run. Yeah, this was. This was a. A thorough domination. I'm surprised they didn't win by, like you said, when you run it, I mean, you're not going to rush. I mean, score a bunch of touchdowns running the football, you will keep your defense off the field. And when they do get on the field, they can go hunting because they're fresh. But I thought A and M played extremely well today. Hey, Johnny, you know what? I wasn't gonna agree with you. I was like, man, Johnny, being a homer, when it's all said and done, A and M might be down. They might. They might have something to say. They might be like the devil going down to Georgia.
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Ocho
What I said last week, which was exactly this, from what we have seen from A M so far, if you give it an honest assessment from a full team football perspective, you have seen the right pieces from an offensive standpoint, from a defensive standpoint, and from a special team standpoint. You got a receiving core that could be as good as anybody in the country. You got a ground game that can pop off 300 in your face. You got a when you run the ball like that, like you said, your defense is fresh. I want my dogs on the D line who are going to get drafted in that first, second, third round. If they're fresh and sitting on the sideline over there on the cool benches having the water and they get to go pin their ears back for three plays and get off the field, that is a recipe for success. So to not jinx my Aggies by hyping them up too much because we have a history. But nevertheless, there's one way to change, and that is do something different. And what we're seeing right now so far, week in and week out, is very impressive.
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Dan
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Sarah Spain
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Dan
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Sarah Spain
Folks find it hard to hate up close, and when you get to know people and you're sitting in their kitchen tables and they're talking like we're talking, you know, you hear our story, how.
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Shannon Sharp
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Sarah Spain
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Dan
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Ocho
Smoke and listen now.