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Chad Johnson
Shit from start to finish, huh? They won the game before the game even started. From start to finish in all three phases of the game, whether it be offense, whether it be defense, they dominated the game and the conditions. You can't use the conditions as a reasoning because yeah, Buffalo did it. Exactly. I was getting ready to say the same thing. They were able to run their offense, they were able to play defense, they able to. They were able to do what they needed to do on special teams as well. They. Listen, they dominated the game from start to finish. Josh Allen looks completely different than he did last year. Obviously they did have a winning season, but he's been superb and superior with protecting the football. Now he has throwing interceptions, but nothing to the point in what he did.
Shannon Sharpe
Last year, nothing in the previous years because that was. That's what got him in trouble.
Chad Johnson
Oh yeah, it got him in trouble especially late in the season like this. And obviously once he got. Once he also got into the playoffs. But listen, the way they're playing right now is I wouldn't be surprised obviously into also tonight. I want, I want to also mention that they did win the AFC east. With tonight's win. They did win the AFC east.
Shannon Sharpe
That I with five weeks to go, they already AFC east champs, huh?
Chad Johnson
Yeah. Listen, I think obviously I'm going to, I'm going to toot my own horn for my team. I think if two doesn't go down, I think the Dolphins give them a run for their money. But obviously that didn't happen with TUA being out for four or five games, whatever it may have been. But, but congratulations to the Buffalo Bills and Josh Allen. They look good. I want to see what they do in the playoffs though. I want to see that's all that matters. That's all that matters. I want to see if they can. If they can play this way in the postseason. There's a good chance. We see the goddamn Buffalo Bills representing the AFC in goddamn New Orleans.
Shannon Sharpe
I think the thing is, Ocho, is that Josh Allen has solidified himself as a top five quarterback, because year in and year out, he has his team in the playoffs. And for the most part, unless they run into Kansas City. They go far. Yeah, they go far. I mean, it's really that simple. They lost to Kansas City in the divisional round. They lost to him in the AFC championship round, and they lost to him again in the divisional round. But he's been there every year. He's progressed. He's gotten better. He finished, what, second, I think, last year or maybe a couple. Maybe last year he finished second in the MVP voting. If everything stays according to plan, he'll. He'll probably win it this year. Ocho, unless Saquon goes. Goes over to 20, breaks that record, and then that might have something to say about it, and if he can somehow finagle that number one seed away from. From the Lions. But right now, Josh Allen looks extremely well, and he's not turning the football over. So he's not, you know, helping his team and also helping the other team as well, because he was giving his team 21 points, but he was giving the other team 14 points with his turnovers. But he's done a better job of taking care of the football. I think McDermott and what's the. What's his coordinator's name, he came on last year because they fired, I think, Alex Van Pell. They fired him. This guy took over. And with a whole year of this, Josh Allen looks different. Yeah, he looks. He's still Josh Allen. He's still ineffective. He still can throw the football. He still can run. But what he's doing now, Ocho, he's giving you that same kind of offensive production, right? Minus the turnovers. Joe Brady. Joe Brady has done an unbelievable job. This looks like. This looks like the Josh Allen that Brian Dabal had, right? But even when Dabs had it, he was turning the ball over a lot more than what he should have. Right now. Joe Brady has it, and I don't know what he say, look, son, we can go really far, but you got to do a better job of taking care of the football, especially turning the ball over in the red zone. Ocho, he was throwing intercepts in the end zone. They're about to go in For a touchdown. He's fumbling the ball. Go ahead.
Chad Johnson
You know, you know what he was like. You know what he remind me of, I'm sure you remember, and the people in the chat that are watching. I'm not sure how much you paid attention to Brett Favre, who used to take so many chances because his arm. Because of his arm strength. He was a guns.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Chad Johnson
So they felt there were certain times he could take a chance and he would try to win with his arm, and more times than not, he would lose those occasions, you know.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Chad Johnson
But Josh Allen, I see Josh Allen in that light a little bit. But this year, like you said, Joe Brady, I'm not sure what they told Josh Allen. He's still Superman, but he's not being Superman with his arm. He's doing it in other areas, in other facets of his game as well, which is why they're playing so well and they've only lost two games this year.
Shannon Sharpe
He is the unquestioned leader of that offense. And this is not to take a shot at anybody. But Ocho, you know, a quarterback, when you young like that and you got a veteran guy in front of you, sometimes you tend to like, okay, I got to make sure I get him the ball. None of these guys. Amari Cooper is not a guy. He doesn't strike me as a guy. He's very quiet. He's not going to demand. Demand a football like the. Like other receivers would have in the past. And you look at Shakira and you look at. What's the name? Holloway.
Chad Johnson
The guy M. Holland.
Shannon Sharpe
Hollins Holland. He showed up to the game barefooted. Oo. Did you see him?
John M.
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Chad Johnson
Hey, he don't wear no shoes. He don't wear no shoes.
Shannon Sharpe
He walked. He walked into the stadium barefooted.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
I had tried to catch pneumonia to prove no point to nobody, but anyway. But I think the thing is with Josh Allen, he's really comfortable in this leadership role as the unquestioned leader. He can go out there and focus. He doesn't have to worry about trying to force the football sometimes. Ocho, every quarterback, great quarterback, takes risk, but they're calculated risks. Right. At the right time, he was taking unnecessary risks. There's a difference between the two. A mathematic calculation and this just arbitrarily throwing the. Spraying the football over the field.
Chad Johnson
Right, right, right.
Shannon Sharpe
That's what got him in trouble. That's what got the Bills in trouble.
Chad Johnson
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
Since he's done a better job of taking care of the football, I don't think Anybody that watches the game casually or analytically can say, this is not the best Josh Allen that we've seen. Because it absolutely is.
Chad Johnson
Absolutely.
Shannon Sharpe
He's still as effective running the football. He's still effective throwing the football, minus the turnover. So think about it. He'd give you the. He'd give the production on the ground with his legs. Yeah, they seem to. They can run it a little better this year with James Cook and Davis that they have in the past. And now he's still giving those production. That production through the air.
Chad Johnson
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
Minus the turnovers. So everything has increased. The turnovers has decreased. They look really good defensively. I was anxious to see because they let. Look, they let Michael Hyde go, they let Poirier go. Trevius White went Von Miller, you know, he was coming back off of that injury. He had a little hiccup, you know, had to go sit down for four games. Matt Milano got injured. He. He returned. And so I was. I was anxious to see.
Chad Johnson
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
How they were going to look defensively, because, look, everybody's like, man, they gonna take a step back offensively. They lose Gabe Davis, they lose Stefan. And I'm like, they might. But knowing the quarterbacks, because we saw Patrick Mahomes, how he stood. He won two Super Bowls and an MVP when Tyreek wanted the most dangerous, if not the most dangerous receiver in football left. If Josh Allen is what we thought he was and what we think he is, Ocho, he should be able to overcome that. Now, he might not throw for 40 touchdowns. Close to 40 touchdowns, but I believe he'll be a better quarterback for that.
Chad Johnson
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
Man, you look at.
Chad Johnson
He has been just.
Shannon Sharpe
Vaughn. Go ahead. Go ahead.
Chad Johnson
I was getting ready to tell you, despite what he did lose, because we put him in that upper echelon of quarterbacks. He's been able to overcome not having those. Number one target. Number one target.
Shannon Sharpe
But what do you do?
Chad Johnson
Elevating the team. Elevate the team by himself with his play.
Shannon Sharpe
That's what we asked the great quarterbacks to do. You are a rising tide. You're supposed to lift not just the mega yachts, you're supposed to lift the rowboats, also the bas boat. It does not matter. It does not matter. Kayak. If you are what we say you and present you to be, you should be able to lift those guys. And he's done that this year. But you know, defensively, they can get after you got Ed Oliver, you got Russo, Epanessa, you got Vaughn. They've done a great job of getting after the Quarterback. But the thing is, Ocho, and I don't know how much you played in the snow, but you can't have your normal gate. You have to understand, you try to take off. Like you. Yeah, you got to chop.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, chop it down.
Shannon Sharpe
And I'm seeing the 49ers slipping all over the place, bro. You can't stride your normal stride pattern. You can't stop like you normally could. So, bro, I don't know why. I just. I just don't get it, Ojo. I don't know. I mean, I think the guys will play enough in inclement weather, right? You have to change when it's raining. You can't do your same stride pattern.
Chad Johnson
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
You know, and try to stop on a dime.
Chad Johnson
I'm glad you said that. This is why I prefer playing on turf fields. Many players don't like turf fields. Like the. The feel in Chicago. I mean, Chicago like the feeling Cincinnati. Even if it was raining, you could run full speed and stop because of the way the turf was made. You know? You know what I mean? Now, when it's that much snow on the field, that much snow, or if you're playing on grass like you did in Denver, everything changes. You got to understand that, for one, before the game start, you need to get out there and test your cleats. Put them goddamn nine studs, right?
Shannon Sharpe
Seven studs. Seven studs.
Chad Johnson
Put them goddamn seven studs on and learn how to chop your goddamn feet. Yeah, that's it. You can't. Like you said, your gate has to change, and everything has to be short and quick. Short and quick. It's the only way you're going to be able to get out your break.
Shannon Sharpe
And it's even harder now, Ocho, because now the film, the field, it can't warm. It's not. It can't melt the snow fast as it's piling up, and they can't throw it off. So now you have to change it even more because your cleat has to go down through the snow. So now you got a layer between you and the field. So your situation, your gate, has to be even. Has to be even better. Now, some of this was the terrible angle that Brown took to safety, bro. I don't know where the hell you was going. That's your gap, okay? They block down, they kick out. That's you and Cook.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Where the hell were you going on the first touchdown ward? You have forth. You have contained, right? You can't let him outside. Ocho, you in?
Chad Johnson
Absolutely. That's Rule number one. That's rule number one. At time, at times I think at times, sometimes I want to blame the weather and then at times I want to. I want to blame people making business decisions.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Chad Johnson
I want to say people are making business decisions at that point. James Cook. I love James Cook, but he's not an imposing figure at the running back position. There should be no reason why you don't want to fill that hold. There should be no reason why you don't want to fill that gap, you know, where you're supposed to be at.
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho. But here's the thing. The weather doesn't change your responsibility. Yeah, see, that's the thing that people need to get through the head. My. If my responsibility is forcing contained, I don't give a damn if it's raining. I don't care if it's 80, I don't care if it's 70 below. I still got contained. The condition doesn't change my responsibilities right now. It might not. The weather might change how I go about it. Yeah, but if you take a horrible angle, if you take a horrible angle in bad conditions, it's going to make even worse because you're going to slip, slip and slide trying to recover. If you take a bad. If you take a bad angle in ideal conditions, you still not going to make the play. You have to understand your launch point where he is, the rate he's coming towards you, I'm like, bro, what are y'all doing? It's almost like Ocho is like. They go. They just like I'm looking at him, I'm like, bro, I saw when he took up. I said, you got no. If he may. If he sidestepped, you got no chance at all.
Chad Johnson
0 at all for one. You got it. Listen, I'm not, I'm not a defender, but I do understand you got to put yourself in position. You got to put your body in position. So even if he, even if he does have a two way go, you have a chance to react the angle you taking. I already knew one James Cook make one move. Oh, it's.
Shannon Sharpe
It's over.
Chad Johnson
It's over.
Shannon Sharpe
And you not going to turn to catch nobody at a turn to catch.
Chad Johnson
Who in the, in the NFL. Shit.
Shannon Sharpe
No, no, absolutely not. No, no. He's got a head of steam. But. But Buffalo look good. Yeah, Buffalo has looked good. When Josh Allen takes care of the football, they look damn near unbeatable now. They seem to be playing their best football at the right time. Ocho, this is one you want to play in great football. You want to be heading into December playing your best football, heading into January playing your best football. And they look like they're playing that. And they're like, look, I understand, we understand the road to the super bowl and the AFC still goes through Kansas City, but I sure would like a crack at them. I sure, I just want my opportunity. Yeah, I know we've had several, but I want it one more time and.
Chad Johnson
Some tell me if they get it, if they get it this year. I got a feeling with the way they look and Josh Allen's understanding that if I can protect the ball and give my team a chance with the way our defense is playing, obviously Milano's back, goddamn Von Miller is playing good. I think they got a chance. And the way the Chiefs look right now, where they're barely scraping back with.
Shannon Sharpe
These wins, barely scraping by, their defense doesn't look as formidable as it did early like it did last year, like it did at the beginning of this season. Because we're start to see team that we don't like. Hold on.
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Carolina got 27 against oh yeah. Aiden O'Connell threw for over 300 yards and if it wasn't for the mistake. Look, mistakes happen in the game, but I believe the teams that they're going to face are better offensively than some of the teams that they've struggled with. The question is, can you take care of the football? Can you put them in situations? Because you got to protect the football. You've got to protect the football. If you protect the football, you give yourself a chance. If you don't, you play double once the playoff is. Oh yeah, you pay a Premium for turning the football over. Ocho, how much better does Josh look without Stefan?
Chad Johnson
He looks really good. I think the fact that he doesn't have to force the ball to anyone. He's not thinking about getting Steph the ball. I think not having to worry about okay. Is Steph okay? It's hard to say. He just looks better. I think the fact that he doesn't have that alpha. He doesn't have that alpha dog where he has to worry about feeding the ball and making sure he's okay. You know, at times when you have someone like that that's an alpha, that's an outlet that you know you can go to and you can count on, that is a great thing, having a dominant number one receiver like that. But at times, because Josh Allen is so good and he can overcome with his play and arm and legs without having an alpha, alpha receiver like that, I think he's been okay. Now. Many quarterbacks can't overcome that. Josh Allen is in a class of his own. There may be four, maybe five, maybe five quarterbacks where you can take away their number one receivers or their alpha receivers and they can still function and elevate that offense that they're in control of.
Shannon Sharpe
I think the thing that you have to have if you're dealing with a dominant personality like a number one receiver, because they normally have dominant personality.
Chad Johnson
Oh, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Sometimes they don't, but a lot of times they do. You need to be the veteran quarterback. You see, Montana was already established. He had already won two Super Bowls and a two Super Bowl MVPs by the time Rice landed.
Chad Johnson
Right?
Shannon Sharpe
And you have Marino. So Duper, Mark Clayton. Mark Duper ain't gonna trump him.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Jim Kelly, you're not gonna trump him. So you get guys that are already established. And even though you have dominant personalities, I look and Tom says, look, what I try to do is that I always try to give Randy the ball early. And if I couldn't get him the ball early, I would go to him and tell him, bro, we trying that. We go get you the rock. Just stay with me, stay with me. I gotta keep him in a positive mind frame because the last thing I want to do is lose him. Because if. And teams need to understand, bro, how do you want me to hit the game winning shot when you haven't thrown me the ball the entire game? Who hit who? You can't ask Steph Curry. Look, Steph, hey, we want you to feed Clay, want you to feed Draymond. We want you to feed all These other guys. Oh, we down, too. Hey, Steph, you ready? No. Hell, no. I ain't shot the ball the whole night. Right.
Chad Johnson
I think.
Shannon Sharpe
I think that's what a receiver said if you give it to a guy early. Ocho, you know this. You and I both caught the ball for a living.
Chad Johnson
Good.
Shannon Sharpe
Give it to me early. You got me late.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
I just need to feel it. I just need to feel it a couple of times. Okay. Hey, listen, not late in the ball game. We good.
Chad Johnson
I don't. I don't need it much. I don't need it much. Throw me a smoke. Throw me a screen. Throw me a slant.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Chad Johnson
Let me touch the ball. Let me get myself into a rhythm of the game. I'm not going to force the issue. I'm going to allow the game come to. I'm going to allow the game to come to me. I'm just saying when I was. When I was with Carson, coach Bob Burkowski, I never forget Coach Bob Burkowski was our officer coordinator. My receiver coach at the time was Hugh Jackson. I tell Hugh before the game started, I tell Carson, listen, I'm not going to bother you. I'm not going to say nothing to you now. What I will do at times is I'll come out the huddle where I feel the floor of the game is not going in my favor or going in my direction. I let you know, I never. Hey, as boisterous and as flamboyant as I was, I never bothered Carson during the game. But what I would do is when he had called to play and before I leave the huddle, you know what I do? I tap his hip. I tap his hip. Just alert him. I'm not going to say nothing to you. Just know in the back of your mind. Then I get to the last scrimmage, right? And he making this call, and I see something where I know I can take advantage based on the play that was called, I do my. My famous thing. He. That's it. You can hear you hit that bitch all the way outside the stadium. So come on now.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, come on.
Chad Johnson
Things are not going my way. Just let me touch it. Let me feel it. But I didn't want to use my voice at all because you irritate that one. I'm not trumping him. I'm not trumping him, no matter what I've done.
Shannon Sharpe
Quote a. And that's the thing. I just say, t. Give me a look. That's why. That's all I'm saying. I'm saying hey, just give me a look.
Chad Johnson
Right, Right.
Shannon Sharpe
Like t. You block it on this one. I said I'm gonna leak out late. If you get in trouble. Hey, you right. I'll block it. I'm blocking on deal with Ocho. But if you get in trouble, I'll leak out of it. Right now I'm gonna give you a place to go in the ball. That's all I'm saying. Ocho. Kyle Shanahan said Kristen McCaffrey suffered a potentially season ending PCL injury.
Chad Johnson
Ah, wait, that was non contact. Or was it previously when he got tripped up? You think it happened previously?
Shannon Sharpe
They showed that play, right? But you knew as soon as like that knee buckle, when he took off, you could see that knee buckle and then he like gave himself up. So you knew something. I was like, damn. Did it. Is it the Achilles? Did the calf go? But Kyle Shanahan just said his press conference. Christian McCaffrey suffered a potentially season ending. It's over. It don't make any sense. He missed.
Chad Johnson
Was it the same leg? Was the same leg that he just.
Shannon Sharpe
I think it is. I think it was his right one.
Chad Johnson
The plan.
Shannon Sharpe
I think it was his right one.
Chad Johnson
What you call it? Plan fascia?
Shannon Sharpe
No, he had a. He had a calf injury that led into his Achilles. And. And the thing. Ocho. And you know, the thing is, is that I. What do we say all the time if you limp into the season? Oh, you limping out of it?
Chad Johnson
Out of it. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
How you gonna get healthy during the season?
Chad Johnson
It's impossible. It's impossible.
Shannon Sharpe
The number one thing, when anybody have surgery or anybody have an injury, what do they tell you? The most important thing, Ocho? Rest.
Chad Johnson
Rest.
Shannon Sharpe
How you gonna get rest? They working the dog crap out of you?
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm just saying.
Chad Johnson
No joke.
Shannon Sharpe
It's really that simple.
Chad Johnson
And listen, they can only. They can only protect you so much because in order to get you back to the playing speed and get you acclimated to game tempo, you gotta work some type of work. You gotta put some type of. Once they put you out there with the bullets of firing. Hey, them boys, Them boys are moving. Damn. I'm sad for him, man. I'm sad for him, man. Prayers up the LA C Mac.
Shannon Sharpe
Buffalo clinched their fifth straight AFC title, setting a new franchise record. Buffalo had previously won four AFC titles, consecutive 88 through 91. That was also the years that they, you know, they ended up going to the super bowl where they went Super Bowl 90, 91, 92, 93. But Buffalo played extremely well tonight. They Got it done. It wasn't that San Francisco played. They turned the ball over. Ocho.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
But they had some opportunities and they got into the red zone and they had to settle for field goals. You check fumble. Butcher Clark ended up letting the ball slip out his hand. Purdy Deebo, fumble to kickoff. They had some opportunities. When you're on the road and you're playing against a team that seemingly got it going, you have to cash in on all your opportunities as well.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
The game of the day, the Eagles Defeated the Ravens 24 19. Justin Tucker has lost multiple games this season and left seven points off the board tonight. He continued this season long struggles by missing two field goals and a PAT. One from 47, one from 43. His two fail field goals came in the third when Baltimore trailed 14 to 12. This is the first time that he's missed three kicks in a game and he put a major dent in the AFC in the Ravens opportunity to win the North. Tucker's missed eight field goals, but he's missed 10 kicks, if I'm not mistaken, eight field goals and two PATs this season, which is a single season high. Harbaugh is sticking with Tucker. We saw him go to them on the sidelines, say we believe in you. You hugged him. If you're asking me are we going to move on from Justin Tucker, I'm not really planning doing that right now. I don't think that would be wise.
Chad Johnson
Whoa. Did you hear the key words you just said? I don't like that. I don't like that. Did he say right now or did you just add that in there?
Shannon Sharpe
No, he said that right now. I don't plan on doing that right now. I'm not really planning on doing that right now. I don't think that be wise.
Chad Johnson
I don't like that. Listen, let me, let me tell you something. Let me tell you something.
Shannon Sharpe
Talk to us also.
Chad Johnson
Also the chat. Chat. Y'all listen to me now. I know I play around a lot, you know, when it comes to saying some of the things that I've done. But all of you know my history and my resume as a kicker, especially in NFL. I know what that feel like. I understand the pressures that go into what Justin Tucker is going through right now. I understand the pressures of already having the moniker being the greatest kicker of all time based on what you did in the past. But what, what you've done in the past when it comes to the NFL.
Shannon Sharpe
Is always ain't got nothing to do right now.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, it ain't got nothing to do with now. What have you done for me lately? Right now, I don't watch much baseball, but I can tell what Justin is in. He's in a slump. Yeah, he's in the slump sometimes.
Shannon Sharpe
He got the yips right now. Ocho.
Chad Johnson
Huh?
Shannon Sharpe
He got the yips right now.
Chad Johnson
Oh, yeah, he got the yips right now. Justin Tucker is in a slump. And you know what happens when players in a slump. It gets to you here. You got to be mentally strong here, for one, in order to get back into rhythm, to get back to what you were doing in the past, being the Justin Tucker that we're used to seeing. You got to envision that up here right now. It's getting to him. He think about missing the kick before he even kicked the ball, which is why he's missing the kicks.
Shannon Sharpe
And it's always. And they seem to be always veering to the left. They always veer into. If you look at them, they veer into the left.
Chad Johnson
That's all mechanics, baby. Yeah, that's all mechanics. That's all mechanics. On your follow through on your swing, you got to stop your leg at a certain point if it's always veering to the left. If anything, adjust. Adjust your split, adjust your alignment. Face the ball up a different way because everything is happening and reoccurring the same way. Kickers watch film. I'm a kicker. I'm telling you. I know some of you might laugh at me. I'm serious. I know what it is. I know what Justin Tucker's going through. He's going to be all right. I don't like the words that Harbaugh said.
Shannon Sharpe
If he's going to be all right this year.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, I don't. I don't like that. I don't like that. You don't?
Shannon Sharpe
No.
Chad Johnson
You don't do the best kick in the world like that just because he's going through a slump. Because you have quarterbacks, quarterback go through slump, too. Sometimes even the best go through a bad season or a bad string of games where they just can't get themselves out of a funk. But at some point they turn it around, especially at the position. Once he gets it here, you got. You got to visualize it here. Once you visualize it here and get that confidence back, he'll be fine.
Shannon Sharpe
The question is, is he going to get it back this year? Because it doesn't matter if he gets it back next year because they're trying to make the playoff this year and how many times have the Ravens. He kicked the Ravens to the super bowl as a rookie. As an undrafted rookie. He went to Denver and made the game winning kick.
Chad Johnson
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
And that launched him. That put him on his way. We've seen guys, you mentioned the sport. You go back and look at golf, you look at David Duvall, you look at Ian Baker, Finch, they had the yips. You mentioned baseball. Look at Chubb Knob block. Look at Rick and Keel. Rick and Keel had to move to the outfield because he couldn't get the ball over home plate. Chubb Knobloch could not throw the ball. He's a second baseman. He could not throw it to the first baseman.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Steve Sachs had a similar situation. It's half. We've seen guys do it and they. David Duvall left, Ian Baker Fitz didn't end up leaving because they couldn't punt.
Chad Johnson
Right? Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Rick and Keele moved to the outfield because he could not throw the ball over the plate.
Chad Johnson
But it's.
Shannon Sharpe
And it's. And it's tough. Lamar Jackson did not play a good game today. Ocho, he really never found his rhythm. Had multiple fumbles, but he recovered those. Had a lot of overthrows. He had likely. He could have hit likely on that play. I think it was in the second quarter.
Chad Johnson
Overshot it. The corner route. The corner route, yes. He overshot him a little bit.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, a little bit.
Chad Johnson
Oh, yeah, yeah. He overshot him.
Shannon Sharpe
Likely stopped running like. Well, he gotta be throwing that to somebody else. Cause hey, he running. He saw where the ball going, so he just stopped. He like was somebody out there, but in front of me. And then he come back and did the fumble the ball. He was 6 and 15 on third down. The touchdown that he got, Ocho, that was late in the game. Cause if they don't get that touchdown that shut out in the second half, right. Lamar said his. His mother cursed him out after the game for not running more and not hitting the running lanes. The Ravens finished two or five in the red zone. He didn't play well today. Yeah. You know, on a day in which the defense, they held, they held, they held in hell. And they was needing Lamar to be Lamar. It didn't happen for him today.
Chad Johnson
You know what? One of the things I watched tonight, I love Lamar. I love that Lamar has proved that. You know what? I'm not just a run of the ball. I'm gonna show you I can pass. I'm gonna show you I can pass. Listen, I know you could pass the ball, young bull, but I need you to be special, you know, on nights like tonight and Games like tonight, I need you to be special. What makes you you. I need you to do what you was doing at Boydton Beach High School when I used to go watch you out there when you was a legitimate Take off with the ball, baby, if it ain't there. Sometimes you got to go through your progression. One, two and three. Sometimes you got to look at one. If one ain't there, man, take off and go with that thing, right? Sometimes you got to go off script. Sometimes you got to go off script and do what makes you you, especially your two time MVP for a reason. I would have loved to see the Ravens win the game tonight. I would have loved for it. Especially when your kicker's not playing as well as he should be, right? So who has to overcome that? Lamar, number eight when Lamar is the one that has to overcome Justin Tucker not playing as good as he should be. So those points you're missing, that puts the pressure in the onus back on the quarterback to overcome the kicker's woes. Yeah, sometimes you don't that being a passive shit, boy. Drop back if that ain't there, man, take off with that. Oh, I'm.
Shannon Sharpe
Sometimes I do think he tries to prove the point.
Chad Johnson
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. God forgive me.
Shannon Sharpe
I do. I do think sometime Lamar tries to prove that he's a thrower of the football. He is at the.
Chad Johnson
He's proven already.
Shannon Sharpe
Who cares? So why is his mom cussing him out? So what was the difference today?
Chad Johnson
Hey, you heard what she said, right? Boy, when you see the running lanes, boy, take off and do what you do. What you mean you dangerous? Just as dangerous are you? You've already shown us you're just as dangerous with your arm as you are with your legs. But tonight is a night where we needed your legs, not your arm.
Shannon Sharpe
But we had this conversation in the AFC championship game. You asked after the game, why did Lamar run more? So why do we keep having these conversations in these big meaningful games where we keep saying, lamar, why aren't you running the football more? Why are we continuously having these conversations, Ocho?
Chad Johnson
I don't know. I don't know, baby. I don't know. I don't know who so what?
Shannon Sharpe
Because what are you trying to prove? Who care? You've proved that you led the league in touchdown passes. You got 29 touchdown passes. It's going to be you or Joe Burrow probably lead the league in touchdown passes this year, right? At this point in time, the only thing left for you to Prove Lamar, is that you can get to and win a Super Bowl. That's it. That's the only thing that's left for you to prove.
Chad Johnson
Not only that, by any means necessary.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Chad Johnson
On throwing it, running it, crawling it, wheelchair.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't care.
Chad Johnson
I don't care how you got to get there. God damn it. Just get there so we can get these motherfuckers off your back.
Shannon Sharpe
That's. There will come a time, by any means, there will come a time that he will need to. Like I'm going to force Lamar Jackson to throw the football.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm a firm believer that I would rather. I know he can kill me with his leg. I just can't let him outside the pocket, right. I can't let him. I can't let him outside the pocket, Ocho, because he's too dangerous out there and he can throw the ball over my head.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
So I gotta keep him in. I gotta keep him in the box. Now I'm gonna try to make sure that I got a spy to entice him. Like, okay, I got somebody spying, right? And I want him. I want to trick him into thinking, yeah, go ahead and throw from the pocket.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
But you playing into my hands. Cause that's really where I want you anyway. Yeah, that's why I want you.
Chad Johnson
But listen, this is the good thing about it. This is the good thing about the evolution of Lamar Jackson. This is about how good he's gotten even as a pocket passer. O. Okay, you want to put a spy. Okay, bet.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Chad Johnson
Boom. You want to have your DNS rush up field and keep contained. But I can beat you from the pocket. I prove that I can beat you from the pocket and be a Thor of the ball. I done showed you I can drop back. I could be in shotgun, I can rpo. I could play action fake and read through my progressions from 1 to 3. I can't even come back to 1. If I got enough time, right. I can buy myself time. I can go off scripture. I can do all the. All these different things from the pocket. So now that makes me that much more dangerous and multi dimensional from the quarterback position. I just don't like the fact that it. To me, it seems like sometimes Lamar wants to prove, especially tonight, yes, I'm going to show you I can beat you with my arm.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Chad Johnson
When we know how you are with your legs. There's a reason God gave you that gift. I need you again. I know, I know Lamar going to see this too. I know he going to See this boy? I need you. Like you did when you was at Boynton beach, huh? Stop playing now. Come on. Oh. Matter of fact. Oh, wait, wait, wait. The Ravens lost tonight. Can you please tell me how many carries Derrick Henry had?
Shannon Sharpe
D. Henry had 19 for 82.
Chad Johnson
Ah, so he was over. He was over the 16 yard mark.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, he was over 32. They had. They had 32 rush attempts for 166 yards, which ain't bad. You. You could live with that. Yeah.
Chad Johnson
You spoke.
Shannon Sharpe
Lamar was 23 of 36, 237. He got sacked three times. I thought the Eagles D line did an unbelievable job of getting out there. Yeah. Jalen Carter is a monster. This is what I. This is what. Jalen Carter was supposed to be a top five pick. I'm not so sure he would had he not had all those off the field transgressions while he was in college.
Chad Johnson
Right?
Shannon Sharpe
He's a. Top. He's a top three talent. He could rush the passer. He could stop the run. He's relentless. He's starting to see just how good he can be. He's the guy that you start circling. But I thought their defensive line did an unbelievable job of rushing but containing. Lamar. Lamar. Look, Lamar, you can't jump. You can't run up the field on him now. Cause he gonna jump out the window.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, he be gone.
Shannon Sharpe
I thought sweat and I thought some of those other guys did an unbelievable job. Boy, they got a. That Braun, that Zach braun, that middle 53.
Chad Johnson
Yeah. Boy, he nice boy. Boy, he nice boy.
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Shannon Sharpe
Hey and the number 33 oh discount Jason Seahorn wait. Oh, man, he get.
Chad Johnson
Hold on. Which one? Blankenship.
Shannon Sharpe
No, 33. The Fast Kid from Iowa. The corner.
Chad Johnson
What's his name, man?
Shannon Sharpe
Blankenship. 32.
Chad Johnson
Hey, Cooper. Cooper.
Shannon Sharpe
Dejon.
Chad Johnson
Cooper. Dejon. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, man, he's nice. He nice.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, man, they did a great job. But you think about it. Think about the great catches, because Lamar was a lot. He was high all day long. It was. Mark Andrews made some unbelievable. That touchdown catch.
Chad Johnson
Hey. In the end zone.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Chad Johnson
That half.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes, that was nice.
John M.
Yes.
Chad Johnson
He saved his day.
Shannon Sharpe
He caught one. He caught one in the field like that.
Chad Johnson
That's what you call bailing your quarterback out. Yes, that's how you bail your quarterback out.
Shannon Sharpe
The Ravens was 2 or 5 in the red zone. And I think the thing is, Ocho, is that. Look, in a situation like that, when your kicker is struggling, you got. Hey, guys. He's struggling today, guys. Hey, we gotta do a better job. We gotta get this ball in the end zone. We gotta make it. Pats. Now, he hooked one of those, but I would rather. Hey, at least we got six, because when we put it on his foot, we might not get anything because it was 14 to 12 and he missed two kicks that could have made it 18, 14.
Chad Johnson
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
But.
Chad Johnson
Damn.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't. I don't. I don't like what I'm seeing from the Ravens, Ocho. I don't. I don't. Because they don't look like the team you remember, like the first, say, nine weeks of the season, how good they look running the football and Lamar throwing it. Yeah. Excuse me. D. Henry running it.
Chad Johnson
Very good.
Shannon Sharpe
They look really, really good.
Chad Johnson
Very good.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm looking at this team right now, Ocho. I don't see the same. I don't see the same team.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
And defensive, they played a little better today. They didn't give up the big. They didn't give up the big plays.
Chad Johnson
No, no.
Shannon Sharpe
Throwing the football.
Chad Johnson
No.
Shannon Sharpe
Jalen Hurst was. Ocho.
Chad Johnson
Yes, sir.
Shannon Sharpe
They had 252 yards of total offense. There was 11 of 19. Jalen Hurst was 11 of 19, 118 yards and a touchdown.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
They ran the ball 33 times for 140.
Chad Johnson
Listen, it was a good showing, though. It was a good. Sean, I mean, for the. For the Raven, defensively especially. Obviously, they're. They're secondary, huh? They might. They dead last, bro.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, they're not. They cannot do it.
Chad Johnson
They got them dead last. And they did very well trying to contain Saquon. We didn't see Saquon hit his head off the goal post going for 60 and 70 yards.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, he had a 25 yard of that touchdown run. It was 25 yards. He ended up with 23 carries for 107. Yeah. So he's. I think he's at 1499 currently right now because he's at 1392. So I think he's at 1499. He still has a chance. He has five games left.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
To get to average like 120 yards to get 2000.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, he's gonna really have to pick up the pace to get 2105.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, but they say he's on pace to get 21. 21. What's he on pace to get now, Ash? Is he on pace to break the record? Oh, Ash, put it up here.
Chad Johnson
What's. Who they got next?
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, if he plays in all 17 games, he has a chance. He's on pace to get 21, 23. Now. He also caught two passes for 10 yards. The NFL record is set by Ed 2105 in 1984. Right. But Ed didn't think about it. Ed didn't win the MVP that season. Dan Marino did, because that was. Danny threw for 48 touchdowns and 5,000 yards. I mean, to throw for 5,000 yards in that era. Do you understand how good that was?
Chad Johnson
Oh, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, with all the holding, with all the physicality, the quarterback knocking your. I mean, the D line, the defense knocking your quarterback out, they killing your receivers. And he threw for 5,000.
Chad Johnson
Yeah. That was Duper and Clayton. Huh. I wonder who the tight end was then.
Shannon Sharpe
I think they had Crash Jensen. Jim Jensen, Okay. Might have been one of the tight ends.
Chad Johnson
What about who was the running back, you think?
Shannon Sharpe
If I'm not mistaken, I think it was Tony Nathan.
Chad Johnson
Tony Nathan, throwback.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
Oh, that's dope, man. That's dope.
Shannon Sharpe
And Jim Jensen. Dan Johnson. Dan Johnson, yeah. Oh, man. Look, I mean, if somebody would have told me that Jaylen Hurst would only throw for 118 yards of a touchdown and they would only have 252 yards, I said, what, the Ravens gonna win? Yeah, Well, I said the Ravens gonna win the game.
Chad Johnson
But they could have won the game. They could win the game. Obviously, there was some kicks that were missed. There's some other things that didn't go in their way, didn't go in their favor. I think if we got the Lamar Jackson that we're used to seeing, that would be able to. That can overcome the kickers woes. I think the Raven do Win that game. They have to play better. Lamar has to play better. He knows that he's going to go back and look at film and say, well, God damn this one here. This is the chance where I should have took that down and God, dog, stop cursing, man. I should have took the ball down and ran with it and do what I do best. Can't stop trying to sit in the park and buy time and buy time. Trying to be off script, waiting on somebody to pop open.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, they're running out of time because the Steelers, yeah, Saquon is on pace. The challenge, but they'll get the record. He's on pace now for 2,501 yards. The record for most total yards of the season is 2509 by Chris Johnson. Philly win the eighth straight and leaves the Eagles 10 and 1, 1 game behind the Lions for the top seed in the nfc. The Eagles are two and a half games up on east on the for the east lead over the Washington Commanders. Oh, Joe.
Chad Johnson
Yo.
Shannon Sharpe
What happened? The Steelers defeat the Bengals.
Chad Johnson
Say, say that for last, man. Say that for last.
Shannon Sharpe
No, no, we gotta get this one right now. The Steelers Defeated the Bengals 44 to 38. Shootout. Not only did the defense. Offense, excuse me. The offense moved the ball at will, but the Steelers defense forced three turnovers, including a fourth quarter scoop and score by Peyton Wilson. Pickens led the Steelers with 74 yards receiving on three catches with a touchdown, but drew a 15. But drew 15 yard penalties after two of his catches. After the game, Pickens said there wasn't anything he needed to do differently in those situations. Tomblin said he just got to grow up. This is emotional game. These divisional games are big. He got a target on his back because he's George. He understands that. But he's got to grow up. He's just got to grow up in a hurry. Yeah, that'll cost you a game in the playoff. Ocho.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, he, I mean George. George, listen, I'm a hit young bull. I got Georgie number. I'm going to talk to him. Listen, take some of that fun, you know, some of that energy that you display that is that, is that you're being penalized for and turn that into entertainment. Turn it into entertainment. It's okay to be the villain. Enjoy being a villain, embrace being the villain. But do it in, in a way where it's organized chaos within the game of football. Have fun within the game of football without having to get those penalties. I'm telling you, it's going to pay dividends in the Long run. He has to understand that, you know, the. The gun gesture, you know, in the end zone, you know, after.
Shannon Sharpe
But. But they know. But you know, you do that. And I know chat fans, I know air guns and bullets don't kill anybody.
Chad Johnson
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
But the NFL said, we don't want that.
Chad Johnson
Right, right, right, right.
Shannon Sharpe
If your boss tell you you cannot come to work with Kathy khakis, don't bring your ass to work with khakis.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, I. I don't get it. Ocho. We knew. Ocho, if we wore our socks a certain height, the NFL said, we want you to pull. We want your knees covered. I expected to get a fine if I met more than two plays and I didn't pull my socks up. Yeah, but you can't say, well, what did the sock. And I said. And I used to ask all the time, what does my socks got to do? They say, shannon, we want uniformity. They say, shannon, we let you do yours. And then somebody gonna come out there with footies, and then somebody gonna come out here, and then everybody gonna start looking like an all tournament team. They say, we want to. We say, we want everybody. We want every. We want uniformity. Shannon. We're the National Football League and we're trying to set example. I say, okay, yeah, but Ocho. Yeah, they. You remember they cut that out before you got to the lead. The throat slashing gesture. They cut that out.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
But Johnson would do.
Chad Johnson
Oh, yeah, they cut that out. Yeah, you can't do that.
Shannon Sharpe
Anything. Anything violent or sexual in nature. Air humping ain't got nothing to do. Ain't nobody ever got pregnant by air humping.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
No dry. No. No dry. No dry hunch.
Chad Johnson
But they cut it out. They cut it out.
Shannon Sharpe
But they cut it out. So people, fans, please stop saying. Because you know the rule. George knows the rules. Yeah, you can't do that.
Chad Johnson
And you know what? And especially outside of knowing the rules, you got to understand and to remember those rules when you engage in war, at the time of war, when you plan, you got to remember that. All he need to do. I'm telling you, I'm gonna talk to him. I'm gonna talk to him. I'm a hit in tomorrow.
Shannon Sharpe
Good, bro.
Chad Johnson
You need to take that same energy and the stuff you want to do and turn it into something else in a fun entertainment type of way where it's. It's engaging for us and for those watching. Where it doesn't cost your team. There's a way to do it. I mastered that shit. You know there's a way to do it, you know?
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Chad Johnson
As far as your players concerned, man, you good. Keep on playing ball. But I don't want. This is what I don't want. Because the young. Because he young. So Coach Tomlin has to be careful with what he say. Because you don't want to lose a player like that up here. Up here, you don't want to take too much. You don't want to pull the reigns back too motherfucking hard because you're going to lose. What makes George Pickens. George Pickens. But you can't hurt your team like that, though. You can't.
Shannon Sharpe
Thank you.
Chad Johnson
You can't.
Shannon Sharpe
We just saw this on Thursday with Jameson Williams. We just saw it Thursday where he threw the ball in the guy's face.
Chad Johnson
Remember?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. You call.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
On the sidelines. We just saw it. Yeah. Ocho, if the. If even if I'm speeding, if I'm going eight in a school zone, I can't tell ain't no kids in school. You can't go eight in a school. In a school zone, bro. It's still a school zone whether the kids are in school or not. You can't make that gesture even if you have no gun, even if there is no bullet. You can't make a sexual gesture. You can't make a violent gesture. So please, chat, please, people stay off the Internet. Talk about ain't no gun. Ain't nobody ever been killed by that. Because you can't do it, right. The league says we're going to penalize you. But it's not the league penalizing you. You're penalizing your team.
Chad Johnson
Yeah. Now, it didn't hurt to the day, but it'll catch up to you when it. When it. When it matter most, and that's when.
Shannon Sharpe
You least expect it.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
You get an unsportsman like, conduct penalty. And now what was a field goal? They back you up.
Chad Johnson
Up. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Because a lot of times, Ocho, that's after the fact, now they back you up. What happens if it's second down and you get one of those. The down counts. So now instead of being second and five is second and 20, or it's third and five, third and 20, or it's third AND 15. You see, it's things like that you have to. You have to think about in real time.
Chad Johnson
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho is too late for you and I to have this conversation. Say, Ocho, we tried to tell him it's too late. Yeah, It's Too late. So just learn from others from that have made those mistakes, right? So you don't have to be a footnote. Got a costly penalty. I don't, Ocho, but I try to tell you now, people will tell you Joe Burrow played great. Ocho might come out here and tell you Joe Pearl played great. His defense. If your defense is bad, Ocho, as an offense, what can't you do? If your defense is bad, you can't.
Chad Johnson
Turn the ball over.
Shannon Sharpe
Tell the people at home how many turnover Joe Burrow had.
Chad Johnson
Joe Burrow had three turnovers. But before you say that, how many did they leave?
Shannon Sharpe
How many points did they lead to? To the Steelers?
Chad Johnson
14 or 21 or 17. How much? How many?
Shannon Sharpe
They got a scooping score and they got a field goal right before the half, right? That's 10 points, right?
Chad Johnson
Yeah, that's 10. Can I. Can I say something real quick?
Shannon Sharpe
Go ahead.
Chad Johnson
Just for the chat, for better context, let me get. Let me get energized real quick. You know, it's hard for me to defend my Bengals. It's hard for me to defend my Bengals. But for better context, in those turnovers. Now, one was a tip. Cam Hayward tipped it. Boom. Pick, scoop and score. Boom. Running with the ball. T.J. watt, great play. And I think it was a Highsmith. Is it Highsmith that beat Orlando Brown off the edge?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I don't think it was high. It might have been the other guy. The other guy. I think it was like. It might have been. It might have been 51. Wilson, he might have called the sack and scooped it.
Chad Johnson
All right, scoop and score. Listen for one in that scenario, Orlando Brown. I'm not sure what the Bengals are doing. There's no reason why Orlando Brown should be on the field if he can't walk. If he can't. If you can't walk, that means you can't play left tackle. There's no reason you should be on the field. But if you are on the field, then that's the onus is on the offensive line or the goddamn offensive coordinator. Hell, let's fly protection that way because he's not fully healthy.
Shannon Sharpe
Obviously they can't.
Chad Johnson
We saw.
Shannon Sharpe
You gonna sign a protection away from T.J. watt.
Chad Johnson
Listen, we ain't got no choice. We gotta leave memes over there. We gotta leave mems by itself. One on one. Yes, I know.
Shannon Sharpe
I know. T.J. watt about to break the NFL record. He have a Derek Thomas game.
Chad Johnson
I know what you mean, but you got to, because look what happened. Look what happened. That cost Us that cost.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Chad Johnson
If he's hurt. Goddamn slider protecting to the left. Put the running back up there and goddamn Chip got. Put the Titan over there and Chip, you got to do something to help him. If you have a player out there that is hurt and it cost us offensively, that was the score.
Shannon Sharpe
But your guy has got to take care of the football, Ocho, you know, if your defense, if your defense, you have one of the two or three worst defense in football, you can't turn it over. You're right.
Chad Johnson
You right. There's nothing. Listen, there's nothing I can say. There's nothing I can say about that. But it is his blind side, though, that. That is his blind side. He has no idea that two seconds after the snap that somebody's barreling down and knocking the ball at his hands again. You got. Listen, I'm not making no excuses. You got to have two hands on the ball.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, you do that. Oh, hold on. So I can make that case for Daniel Jones. All them sacks that ain't on Daniel Jones, all those turnovers, every quarterback that turned the ball over because what they're doing is that you're making excuses for Joey B. Because he had 300 yard passes and three touchdowns.
John M.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Chad Johnson
I ain't made no excuse. I made no excuse. No, I was just giving you better context on how the fumbles happen.
Shannon Sharpe
So who cares? Did he have the ball in his hand?
Chad Johnson
Yes, sir.
Shannon Sharpe
So all those fumbles and interceptions, that what you call them? We see. We saw Patrick Mahomes two years ago. How many caroms did. He has? Seven interceptions and like three or four pick sixes that went through the receiver's hands. Yeah, when you fumble the ball and your defense is bad. All I know is this. Patrick Mahomes got to the super bowl with the second. With the second or third worst defense in the NFL. That is the bargains. Because what has happened is that we've allowed Joe Burrow and he's a really good, he's great quarterback. But we've allowed that one year run to tain us because we feel he can do no wrong. Because every year he's ranked above Lamar. Lamar is more accomplished than Joe Burrow.
Chad Johnson
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
We rank him ahead of Josh Allen. He throws a beautiful ball, he puts up big numbers. But at what point in time do we hold them accountable? Like we have all the other great quarterbacks that haven't fulfilled the promise of what we expected them to be because we make excuses. We like, well, his blind side. Man, look at Mahomes offensive line is Mahomes offensive line any worse than Cincinnati?
Chad Johnson
Hey, them two tackles, them two tackles bad. Them two tackles bad.
Shannon Sharpe
One team got 11, one record.
Chad Johnson
There's no disrespect. Yeah. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
And so. And that's the thing when you just. If you. Ocho, if you just looked at the stats. Yeah. You're like, this man threw for 309 and three touchdowns, but he had. He had a scooping score that the ball was in his hand. That gave him. That gave him seven points. And then he had another former. That gave him 10 points. So now if I take those 10 points off the board, how many points did they. They scored 44. If I take those tens. Cincinnati scored 38. They win the game. 38. 34. Ta da.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, you right. You right. Listen, listen. I'm. I'm already hurting right now as it is. You know, I don't. I don't need you to continue to. To. To pour salt in my wounds. I know, I know. Because we talk about. I've been on my soapbox all season long and I've been continued to let down. I've been continued let down.
Shannon Sharpe
We'll get your ass off.
Chad Johnson
Huh?
Savannah Guthrie
Huh?
Shannon Sharpe
Get your ass off that box.
Chad Johnson
I'm off of it right now.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm off of it because, you know. You know, the higher you up, you are, the easier. You easier target you to hit.
Chad Johnson
Yeah. Yeah, that's.
Shannon Sharpe
That's what they said when snipers shooting at. What are they trying to do? See, when snipers are shooting, they at a higher elevation, Right? But when you show your head, that's when they can put that bang on you.
Chad Johnson
Yeah. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
You better get low to the ground. Get out the box.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Say, hey, God. Hey. Man, I thought my bingo was going to be better this year. It's over for y'all guys.
Savannah Guthrie
You know, it's a risk.
Chad Johnson
Oh, yeah. I. I thought. I thought we were gonna be better. I thought, matter of fact. And listen, I was listening to Joe. Joe said we could win seven of the last nine. There's a possibility. So when he said that in front of me, how I was hyped. I was hyped.
Shannon Sharpe
I was ready.
Chad Johnson
I've been talking. I've been talking cash. You know what? I've been making bets with Ryan Clark. I can't even eat McDonald's to January now.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, but you know what?
Shannon Sharpe
And you can't say football till January.
Chad Johnson
Why?
Shannon Sharpe
Oh.
Chad Johnson
Cause we lost.
Shannon Sharpe
You lost like five in a row.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Now you just lose yourself.
Chad Johnson
Hey, so you say I Can't say foot or ball because my favorite.
Shannon Sharpe
Or ball. Nope. Nope. Ocho. Even you, Ocho. You playing the game. I said Ocho. How y'all gonna go out on a run when your defense is historically bad? Your quarterback literally to play a perfect game every time, one turnover. Because first of all, your defense is not really going to be able to stop anybody right now. You turn the ball over, you give them. And if you give them points on your possession. Yeah. Oh, don't cry. No, no, don't cry. No, don't cry. You ain't crying yet, Chad. Don't let it fool you. You should be crying. Sorry.
Chad Johnson
We go, we. We go. We gonna be all right.
Shannon Sharpe
No, y'all ain't. We gonna be all right next year. Y'all ain't gonna be all right this year. Hey, man, you don't got the people. You had people in Cincinnati believe in you, man. Ocho say we gonna be all right. Now, everybody. Not everybody, ain't doing nothing. Eating, chilling hot dogs. Stand up, sit up in your chair. You blurry. You blurry. No, no, no. You get. Bring your ass back into focus. Y'all got o. Crying Bingo. Bingo. What y'all. Bingo nation. Bingo country. What. Y'all are here. We here. There you go.
Chad Johnson
We'll be back. We. We'll be back next year.
Shannon Sharpe
That's what Custard said when they sent his ass out there. He said, I'll be back. And they ain't seen his ass. He went up a little big horn, and they ain't seen his ass since. That was in 1875. 78. What was that? When the little. When did Sitting Bull get old?
Chad Johnson
Custard, we gonna.
Shannon Sharpe
I think that was somewhere between 75 and 78.
Chad Johnson
We'll be back next year.
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Chad Johnson
I don't care. I don't care what nobody say. That's okay. We had a bad season. Sometimes people have bad seasons. Sometimes people have some of the greatest players on offense, you know, and sometimes things don't go the way you want it to go. Sometimes you can talk your ass off.
Shannon Sharpe
I ain't finna listen. We ain't finna. We didn't come here for that.
Chad Johnson
Hold on. I'm trying to. I'm trying to laugh and keep from crying. Let's change the topic, man. Shoot, man.
Shannon Sharpe
No, we ain't finna change no topic. That ain't what we do. We don't duck no chat. Do y'all expect Nike to duck a topic? Do y'all expect us to move on so quickly? No lesson. We gotta address it. Your defense is historically bad. They've been bad. But if you go back and look at it, the Bengals had Kansas City dead to right. What happened? Strip, sack, scoop and score right. Touchdown. They had the Ravens again, dead to right at home. What happened, Ocho? Joey B. Picked Marlon Humphrey.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
At some point in time, even your great numbers can be overshadowed if you are the one that puts the ball in harm's way. Yeah, he's done it. We've seen it. But nobody. Everybody just wants to look at the stats. Oh, he played great. What about those three turnovers that gave the other team the football or gave the other team points? Do we not count that? We count it for everybody else.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
We rip quarterbacks that turn the ball over. At the end of the day, is his responsibility to take care of the football. So as great a player as he is.
Chad Johnson
Right. So. So basically all this is saying to me is. Is Joe Burrow is going to basically have to do. He has to. He has to put on the Superman cape because our defense is playing so bad. Right. He has to do what Josh Allen is doing. If Josh Allen could do it and he can overcome himself and not make the mistakes he made in the past and has his team playing the way he has them playing, Joe Burrow has to do the same, and he has to do it with a much better supporting cast offensively.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, hold on.
Chad Johnson
It sounds easy. It sounds easy, but it's not easy to do. Josh Allen makes it look easy, but it's not easy to do. But I understand. I understand where you're coming from.
Shannon Sharpe
I remember when Peyton Manning had those bad defenses in Indy.
Chad Johnson
Oh, my goodness.
Shannon Sharpe
And even. And even he was putting up those numbers. Oh, Peyton Manning can't get done in the big game. Peyton Manning, yada, yada, yada. Even though his defense was historically bad, y'all didn't make the excuses for Peyton that you make for Joe Burrow. And I just need to know why. Yeah, I got time. I took me a nap today, Ocho. I got time.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, I know you got time. I took a nap today, too. I took a nap today.
Shannon Sharpe
I need you to tell me why. Why is Joe Burrow getting a pass? We never gave Peyton a pass.
Chad Johnson
I didn't give him a pass. I said he didn't play well. I said he didn't play well. Now, when you said about the three turnovers, I just wanted to add a little context on the turnover. Just say they weren't all his fault. But on the stat sheet, guess who. Guess whose name is by them turnovers.
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
When is the strip.
Chad Johnson
Hold on.
Shannon Sharpe
When have we not given a strip sack to the quarterback because the ball's in his hands?
Chad Johnson
You hear what I just said? I just said, when we look at the stat sheet, who are the turnovers on? Whose name is there? The quarterback. Yeah, I know. I'm just saying. I was just trying to give a little context on what happened or whatnot. But he didn't play as well as he needs to play. Joe Burrow needs to understand, and I'm sure he understands, and he will have this conversation with his head coach, with his officer coordinator, and with his quarterback coach. You have to protect the ball. You have to. In order for us to even have a chance to win going on from this season and later on in the future, you have to be the best at protecting the ball and not turning it over. Because if our defense is not playing as well or playing the way they played this year at any point, there is no way for us to overcome those.
Shannon Sharpe
Zero.
Chad Johnson
No way for us to overcome those mistakes.
Shannon Sharpe
And we not finna move on. Cause I'm not finna let you do this to Russ. And Russ you trust. You say you love Russ.
Chad Johnson
I do.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, let's give Russ some flowers.
Chad Johnson
I know I was the only one standing on the soapbox for Russ, too. Now don't do that.
Shannon Sharpe
You were. Yeah. Russ. 29 of 38. 414, which is a career high high. Three touchdowns, one pick. He was sensational. No. Today. Yes, he was his career high he knew, like, look, as good as our defense is, our offense is going to score. It is incumbent upon me as the quarterback and one of the leaders of this. Well, he is the de facto leader on offense.
Chad Johnson
Right, Right.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, we can have our way with these guys, boys.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
And think about it, Ocho, you did get seven from Brit, who got that pick six early.
Chad Johnson
That thing was nice. That. They were nice. That were good. Listen. Boom. Pointed attack, nice little jam. Boom. Eyes on. Eyes on the ball, or we going the other way.
Shannon Sharpe
I ski. I ski.
Chad Johnson
Let's go. Yeah, that was right. I thought, Listen, after that play, I thought we was going to run away with the game.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, that was a good. And I remember, remember. Do y'all remember when Peyton. Manny was losing to Tom Brady? Oh, he had never beat Tom. And Peyton was winning mvp. Yeah, but Tom was winning Super Bowls. He wasn't putting up numbers like Peyton, but he was winning. Oh, Tom Peyton never win. I remember he got beat 41 nothing by Chad Pennington. He got beat by Billy Bowling. Oh, they were just ripping Payton. Yeah, ripping him. His defense weren't very good. He's putting up even his owner when Payton about. I don't, I, I, I, I want, I don't want, I want championships. I don't want no Star wars numbers. Because he feel that Peyton underperformed.
Chad Johnson
Right?
Shannon Sharpe
And now. And Peyton. Go back and look at Peyton numbers. That man won four MVPs, and all of them wasn't in those super bowl seasons. Fans, media, like, killed him. Me, too. I was one of them. Yep. Me, too. Yep. Go back and look at what. I was on cbs. Right. Beat him up. Everybody did. But now, well, Shannon, his defense. Y'all didn't say that when Peyton had a bad defense.
Chad Johnson
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
Y'all just said he couldn't stand up to Tom Brady. He lost the Super Bowl. Go look at Peyton numbers in the Super Bowl. But he had that one pick, six, Tracy Porter. Read it right. They came with a zero blitz. He undercut the underwriting out and he pieced them out. Y'all gotta stop this. Y'all. Y'all got very, very short memories. But what I'm seeing on what I'm seeing, right, if we like somebody, we'll make every excuse in the world for. I don't give a damn what he does or what he or she does if we like you. But I'm gonna call it straight down the middle. Y'all know how I am now. Y'all get on me and say, shannon, yes, I do. Y'all know I do. Go back and check my track record of cbs if y'all don't think I call it down the middle.
Chad Johnson
Me too. Me too. I call it down the middle, too. Me too. Me too. Yeah, Check my track record.
Shannon Sharpe
Russ. Put f in them. Russ. Hey, See, but here's the thing. Hey, guys. With people, y'all keep saying, get that man his flowers. Don't give me my flowers. I'll plant my own damn garden. I'll grow my own damn flowers.
Chad Johnson
Wait, hold on.
Shannon Sharpe
And I pick my own. I'm tired of y'all. Y'all don't want to get people running. Plan your own damn flowers. Grow your own garden.
Chad Johnson
Hold on, hold on.
Shannon Sharpe
And pluck your own flowers and put them on display. I don't need nobody. Don't give me no more flowers. I don't want them. Hey, I got my own garden growing.
Chad Johnson
I'm on the road. I'm on the road, but I got a notepad. Hey, I don't need y'all to give me my flowers because I'm what you say plant. Plant my own.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm a plant and grow my own damn flowers.
Chad Johnson
Hold on. No, my own garden. My only said my own garden.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, whatever, whatever. Whatever you want. What you want? You want roses? You want daisies? You want lilies? You want petunias? Po.
Chad Johnson
You know what I want? I want tulips.
Shannon Sharpe
I want tulips.
Chad Johnson
Because I grow your own. Yeah, I saw the movie Stormy Weather, and Lena Horn, she like tulips. So I'mma give me some motherfucking tulips.
Shannon Sharpe
Russ, listen, Russ is in the ideal situation.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
He's with a cold that understands quarterbacks. Not that he can coach them, but he understands the psyche of a quarterback.
Chad Johnson
Yes, sir.
Shannon Sharpe
And the one thing you can't do with a quarterback is beat him up mentally. And I think Sean Payton beat him up mentally for whatever reason. Sean never embraced Russ. No, he never gave. He never gave. He tolerated him. He's like, I got a year with him. And I'm not so sure that Russ could have done anything other than going to the super bowl that would have ingratiated himself with Sean Payton. Sean Payton has a guy now and he, you know, hey, he has a young guy. And young guys, for the most part, oo, they're happy to be there, even though they're first round pick and they can stomach a little more. Russ is a vet. Russ has been to Super Bowls. Russ is a multiple time Pro bowl player. He like, why you talking to me like that? Yeah, what?
Chad Johnson
Hey, 1 1.
Shannon Sharpe
He's been.
Chad Johnson
Okay, go ahead, go ahead. I was going to say for those that have been watching, obviously, you know, because you got on me about it is I've been giving Russ's flowers for a very long time. Even when he was in Denver, you know, you were given to him because things were going the way they should be going. I've always stood on that soapbox for Russell Wilson because I understood there's no way, there's no way that a player like Russ, that was with the Seattle Seahawks, that has played well at a high level for so many years, can all of a sudden go to Denver and things just weren't right. I think the situation and the scenario that he was in and the pressure that Sean Payton, who kept challenging him.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Chad Johnson
Berating him as a head coach, I just knew that wasn't the right fit. And I understood once he got over there with the Steelers, I said it soon as he got there. I say, man, this is perfect. He's going with the right coach, the right type of coach.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Chad Johnson
Winning coach with the right mentality that knows how to deal with him. And Arthur Smith has put Russell Wilson in some great positions and understanding his strengths. His strengths and his weaknesses, knowing what he can do and what he can't do anymore that he used to do in Seattle, it has been paying dividends off of him, man. And it's been perfect. It's been perfect.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, he's been, he, look, he's been, he's been good. I don't know if he, he would have ever been what he is right now in, in, in Denver with Sean Payton. Look, that first year, we got to chalk that up. Cause ain't nobody been good under Nathaniel Hackett. Ain't nobody. He got fired in Denver and he lost his play calling duty in Green Bay. I mean, excuse me, in, in the gym. So nobody. So we can, we can't say. You say, you know what, Russ? We're going to just that first year now. Whatever happened with you? Like I said, I don't know. But it just seems like he was never ingratiated.
Chad Johnson
Right. Right.
Shannon Sharpe
Sean didn't put his arms around him. It's like, I'm happy to have you as my quarterback for whatever reasons, and it was best that they go accept, you know, you go your way, I go mine, and we're both better for it. Right. The Broncos are doing quite well. The Pittsburgh Steelers are leading their division. They're doing extremely well. And I'm, I'm happy for both because this, this match wasn't Going to work in Denver. Not. Not Russ and Sean Payton. Right. Maybe it's with somebody else, but not that.
Chad Johnson
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
But Russ. Russ needed to go and get built back up again.
Chad Johnson
Yeah. And he had to start.
Shannon Sharpe
He had to start. He had to start from scratch. He had to start from scratch. And what better place to go than with Mike Tomlin? Who's on. Who's on firm soil, firm footing, firm foundation. He ain't going nowhere. Nah, he ain't going nowhere. And so The Bengals allowed 520 yards.
Chad Johnson
Okay. Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
They surrendered 44 points. Those seven came with a strip sack that was turned for a touchdown. Ocho, check this out. The Bengals are the first team in NFL history to lose four games or more when scoring at least 33 points in a game.
Chad Johnson
You just gonna. You gonna pour it on all night? Huh?
Shannon Sharpe
No, no, I'm just saying. I'm just saying.
Chad Johnson
I understand. You're gonna pour it on. We lost the game now.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay?
Chad Johnson
I didn't share tears and all about my team losing.
Shannon Sharpe
I. I'm.
Chad Johnson
I've. I've been vulnerable. I'm. I'm letting the world show that I'm vulnerable and how much this shit means to me. And you just gonna continue to pour on and just take the gasoline, right? You gonna take the gasoline and pour it on the fire anyway?
Shannon Sharpe
No, we done with it then. Okay? I'm gonna move on to the Texas and the Jags.
Chad Johnson
Nah, go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead and finish. Go ahead and finish. Just.
Shannon Sharpe
No, we done with that.
Chad Johnson
Just give it to me. Just.
Shannon Sharpe
We done got all we could at that horse. Look, let me tell you what I did.
Chad Johnson
Nail me to the cross. Go ahead.
Shannon Sharpe
No, no, no. What we did. Look, okay, we had a horse. He was a racehorse. Yeah. We won as many races as we could, and then we turned him into a plow horse. We put him in the fields. So, okay, now he can't plow anymore. Now ain't nothing left for him to do. We either eat him or we turn him into glue. But we've got all we can out of this. We've gotten all we could out of this horse chat, so now we need to go someplace else. Okay.
Chad Johnson
Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. The volume.
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Podcast Summary: Club Shay Shay – Nightcap Episode 1
Title: Josh Allen Dominates, Lamar Jackson Underwhelming, UNC Clowns Bengals
Release Date: December 2, 2024
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe (Host) & Chad "Ocho" Johnson
In this episode of Club Shay Shay's Nightcap, NFL legend Shannon Sharpe teams up with former wide receiver Chad "Ocho" Johnson to dissect the latest developments in the NFL. The primary focus centers on Josh Allen's stellar performance, Lamar Jackson's struggles, and an in-depth analysis of the Buffalo Bills' recent victory over the San Francisco 49ers, as well as insights into the Cincinnati Bengals' challenges against the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Game Recap: The Buffalo Bills delivered a decisive 35-10 victory over the San Francisco 49ers at Highmark Stadium amidst harsh weather conditions—29 degrees and snowing. Josh Allen, the Bills' quarterback, showcased his versatility by throwing for multiple touchdowns and contributing significantly to the team's offensive success.
Key Performances:
Josh Allen:
"Josh Allen threw for two touchdowns, rushed for another, and even recorded a receiving touchdown," noted Shannon Sharpe at [03:30].
His improved performance has solidified his position in the MVP race, moving ahead of Lamar Jackson and into second place alongside Saquon Barkley.
James Cook:
"James Cook was sensational with 14 carries and over 100 yards, including two rushing touchdowns," Shannon highlighted at [03:45].
Strategic Dominance:
Chad Johnson emphasized the Bills' comprehensive control over the game:
“They dominated the game from start to finish in all three phases—offense, defense, and special teams,” at [08:25].
Shannon agreed, acknowledging Josh Allen's evolution into a top-tier quarterback:
"He is the unquestioned leader of that offense... he's giving production on the ground with his legs and through the air," at [14:07].
Josh Allen's Ascendancy:
Shannon Sharpe praises Josh Allen's leadership and his ability to minimize turnovers, which has been pivotal for the Bills' success.
"Since he's done a better job of taking care of the football, I don't think anybody can say this is not the best Josh Allen we've seen," at [13:51].
Lamar Jackson's Struggles:
Contrastingly, Lamar Jackson's performance has been underwhelming lately.
“Lamar Jackson underperformed with multiple fumbles and overthrows,” Shannon pointed out at [37:03].
Chad added, “He's in a slump right now. Justin Tucker is in a slump right now,” referencing both quarterbacks' challenges at [35:11].
Defensive Strategies Against Lamar Jackson:
The discussion delved into defensive tactics required to contain a dual-threat quarterback like Jackson.
"You have to keep him in the box and control his movements," Shannon advised [14:50].
Chad echoed the sentiment, stressing the importance of positional defense:
"You have to put yourself in position to react to his movements," at [19:59].
Defensive Shortcomings:
Shannon and Chad critiqued the Baltimore Ravens' defense, noting that even with talented players like Jalen Carter, the team struggled to contain opponents effectively.
“Their defense is historically bad,” Shannon remarked at [46:33], and Chad agreed, emphasizing the correlation between turnovers and defensive performance.
Quarterback Responsibility:
The conversation underscored the quarterback's role in protecting the football and leading the offense efficiently. Shannon highlighted:
"A quarterback must take care of the football. If you turn it over, you're giving the other team opportunities to score," at [74:33].
Chad added, “Joe Burrow needs to protect the ball. Without that, the defense can’t compensate for offensive mistakes,” at [75:13].
Game Highlights:
The Pittsburgh Steelers triumphed over the Cincinnati Bengals in a high-scoring affair, 44-38. Chad Johnson analyzed the offensive prowess of the Steelers and the Bengals' inability to capitalize despite putting up significant points.
“The Steelers' offense moved the ball at will, but the Bengals’ defense forced three turnovers,” Chad explained at [54:50].
Penalty and Discipline Issues:
Shannon criticized Bengals' player George Pickens for incurring multiple penalties that hindered the team’s performance.
“He got a target on his back... He has to grow up and avoid costly penalties,” Shannon commented at [56:30].
Russell Wilson's Evolution:
A notable segment discussed Russell Wilson's transition to the Pittsburgh Steelers, highlighting the positive impact of coaching and team environment.
“With Mike Tomlin, Russell has been put in great positions, understanding his strengths and weaknesses,” Chad shared at [83:35].
Saquon Barkley's MVP Quest:
Shannon touched upon Saquon Barkley's pursuit of MVP, noting his impressive statistics and the remaining opportunities:
“He has five games left to reach his goal,” at [51:35].
The episode concluded with Shannon and Chad reflecting on the importance of accountability in quarterback performance, the impact of defensive strategies, and the evolving dynamics within NFL teams. They emphasized that while individual brilliance can drive success, systemic improvements and disciplined play are crucial for sustained excellence.
Notable Quotes:
Chad Johnson at [08:25]:
“They won the game before the game even started.”
Shannon Sharpe at [14:07]:
“He is the unquestioned leader of that offense...”
Chad Johnson at [35:11]:
“He's in a slump right now. Justin Tucker is in a slump right now.”
This episode provides a comprehensive analysis of key NFL matchups, player performances, and strategic discussions that offer listeners deep insights into the current state of the league. Shannon Sharpe and Chad Johnson deliver candid assessments, making it a must-listen for NFL enthusiasts seeking expert opinions and thoughtful commentary.