Nightcap Hour 1: Kentucky SURVIVES SCARE vs Santa Clara + Miami MOVES BY Missouri + UCONN CRUISES by Furman

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Nightcap Hour 1: Kentucky Survives Santa Clara, Miami Moves By Missouri, UCONN Cruises by Furman

Date: March 21, 2026
Host: Shannon Sharpe ("Uncle")
Co-hosts: Chad Ochocinco Johnson, Joe (Iso Joe) Johnson

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Episode Overview

This special March Madness edition of "Nightcap" on Club Shay Shay dives deep into the biggest college basketball tournament games of the night. NFL legend Shannon Sharpe, with the help of former Pro Bowler Chad Ochocinco Johnson and 7x NBA All-Star Joe Johnson, covers the heart-stopping Kentucky vs. Santa Clara thriller, Miami’s clutch victory over Missouri, and UCONN’s dominant performance against Furman. With the usual mix of camaraderie, trash talk, and profound sports insights, the trio breaks down wild finishes, individual heroics, and what it means to survive and advance in the NCAA tournament.

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Key Discussion Points

Kentucky Survives a Scare vs Santa Clara

[10:18 – 17:08]

• Kentucky (#7) ekes out a win against #10 Santa Clara in OT.
• Wild ending: Kentucky had a 3-point lead with 2.4 seconds left, Santa Clara banks in a 45-footer buzzer-beater to force overtime.
• "I had a three point lead with 2.4 seconds to go. I didn’t think the guy gonna bank in a 45-footer." – Uncle [10:28]
• Player focus: Ortega Owe (pronounced "oh-way") scores career-high 35 points, logging 43 minutes.
• Game recap—Owe's dramatic three sent it to OT, then Kentucky rallied to win.
• Discussion about the randomness and thrill of March Madness, emphasizing that high-seeded teams must fight to survive.
• "You just can’t go with the higher seeds because you lose every time. At some point, you gotta start picking, like, you know what, I think I could see a potential upset here." – Uncle [11:04]
• Santa Clara’s coach attempted to call timeout to set defense in the final seconds but didn't get it—this controversial no-call potentially altered the outcome.
• Analysis of Kentucky’s depth and talent compared to past years.
• Reflection on how hard such a close loss can be for Santa Clara players.
• "This is why people love March Madness so much, because it doesn’t matter where you rank... I can play you close, and then I do something crazy at the end of the ball game." – Uncle [15:27]

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Miami Rolls Past Missouri

[21:49 – 27:36]

• Miami (#7) defeats Missouri (#10) 80–66 after an 11-0 run late in the second half.
• Game environment: felt like a road game for Miami, but they handled the pressure.
• Senior Malik Renault, after a slow start, scores 24 points (19 in second half), leading Hurricanes to their first NCAA win since 2023.
• Bracket talk: All three hosts reveal their picks; Ocho and Joe both picked Miami but regret seeing the SEC’s Missouri lose.
• "When it comes to picking March Madness, your basketball knowledge and your basketball prowess, it don’t really matter. It’s all about understanding who gonna win what game—and who gonna get lucky." – Joe Johnson [22:52]
• Miami’s resume: strong showing coming out of a tough ACC; head coach John Lucas (first year, replacing Jim Larrañaga).
• Discussion of Miami’s depth—like many college teams, they rely heavily on their starting five.
• "Miami top heavy with they starting five. You hope they can suck it up and play through a little fatigue." – Chad Ochocinco [27:17]

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UCONN Cruises by Furman

[39:09 – 43:30]

• UCONN beats Furman, 82–71, behind a historic individual effort by 6’11” Tyrese Reed Jr: 31 points and 27 rebounds.
• UCONN wins despite poor 3-point shooting (5-25); Reed dominates the paint, and his 30+ points and 25+ rebounds puts him in rare NCAA tournament company.
• "Reed is just the third player in the last 50 years to have a 30/20-rebounding game in an NCAA tournament game." – Uncle [40:09]
• Context: Elvin Hayes and Jerry Lucas are the only other names in that 30/25 club.
• The panel discusses the value of rebounding and how a specialist can make an NBA career from it: “They pay guys to do that! Dennis Rodman…that’s how he got in the league.” – Chad Ochocinco & Uncle [43:12]
• The group reflects on the difference such inside dominance makes, especially in win-or-go-home scenarios.

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Other Tournament Notes & Insights

[29:10 – 31:45]

• Florida’s huge size advantage helps them rout PV (Prairie View): out-rebounds them 54–20.
• The challenge for lower seeds facing dominant bigs and deep, talented teams.
• Brief mention of UCLA’s narrow 75–71 win over UCF—highlighted by turnovers and a player literally losing a tooth in the fray.
• "UCLA. Sky Clark lost a tooth in a fight for a loose ball. God damn, man!" – Uncle [49:45]
• Emphasis on how March is all about scrappiness and the willingness to lay it all on the line.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

"Better to be lucky than good, fellas."
— Uncle [13:02]

"March Madness, that one really gonna hurt Santa Clara."
— Chad Ochocinco [15:00]

"That shot just got them to overtime... Sometimes we see teams get into overtime and that's the high point. Then, for whatever reason, they fall flat."
— Uncle [15:27]

"When it comes to picking March Madness, your basketball knowledge and your basketball prowess, it don’t really matter… It’s all about who gonna get lucky."
— Joe Johnson [22:52]

"If you ever go cold because you're not getting any second chances, and they’re going to get a second, third, or fourth chance…that adds up."
— Uncle [31:07]

"Reed is just the third player in the last 50 years to have a 30/20 rebounding game in an NCAA tournament game."
— Uncle [40:09]

"Dennis Rodman probably had about six points a game, but he’s crazy rebound champ…Screen and rebound, man. Get you a little change in your pocket."
— Uncle & Chad Ochocinco [43:11]

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Fun Banter and Team Chemistry Highlights

• The hosts bond over memories—joking about Funkos, mascots, and bracket strategy.
• Classic playful jabs over who’s winning their bracket pools, with tongue-in-cheek mascot rationales.
• Lively storytelling about growing up, snacks, discipline, and losing baby teeth (and how childhood myths like the Tooth Fairy shaped them).
• Segment on discipline in childhood and sports: being weighed as athletes, staying in shape, and "old school" values from Southern upbringing.

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Important Timestamps

• Kentucky vs Santa Clara thriller recap: [10:18 – 17:08]
• Miami vs Missouri reaction/Bracket talk: [21:49 – 27:36]
• Depth and fatigue in college hoops: [27:11 – 28:13]
• Florida's size advantage and rout: [29:10 – 31:45]
• UCONN/Furman and Tyrese Reed Jr’s epic game: [39:09 – 43:30]
• UCLA vs UCF, Sky Clark loses a tooth: [49:45 – 51:34]
• Locker room and childhood banter: [55:18 onward]

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Tone and Language

The episode is lighthearted, lively, and deeply rooted in both respect for the game and the banter that only former elite athletes and close friends can provide. The tone shifts smoothly between serious basketball analysis and laughter-filled recollections from sports and childhood, making it accessible both to hardcore fans and casual listeners.

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Summary

This "Nightcap" hour of Club Shay Shay offers a rich blend of real-time college basketball analysis, personal sports stories, and unfiltered chemistry between Shannon "Uncle" Sharpe, Chad Ochocinco, and Joe Johnson. Whether breaking down the randomness and agony of March Madness, marveling at individual performances, or just sharing laughs about mascots and childhood snacks, it’s a show about the love of the game—and the life around it.

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What's up fellas?

[Uncle]

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Yeah.

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[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey, Uncle Joe. When we hit two men, but what we gonna do? How we gonna celebrate?

[Uncle]

I might let you and Joe just do the show. I take the. I take it off.

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Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay.

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I like that. I like that.

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All right.

[Joe Johnson]

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[Uncle]

Okay, what are you gonna show us, Joe?

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[Joe Johnson]

Hold on.

[Uncle]

That's me and you together.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. Hey, that's hard, man.

[Uncle]

Oh, man, hold on. How you get a funko with you and I together?

[Joe Johnson]

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[Uncle]

Let me get that.

[Joe Johnson]

You ain't getting it.

[Uncle]

Hey, Chad.

[Joe Johnson]

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[Uncle]

I mean, I might be willing to swap it. Look at that. Hey, you got a little slot. Got a soccer microphone. You got the glasses on. You got a cheeseburger in your hand. Chat what y' all think? Hey, even swap ain't no swindle. You got.

[Joe Johnson]

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[Uncle]

I purchased those jerseys. Actually, I went into a storage and I purchased them, so they're theoretically. They're mine. You not a joke, cuz. I'm sending the Joe as part of your restitution payment.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, okay, okay. Well, listen, I'mma just take him from Joe. Ain't no problem.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You going to take what?

[Joe Johnson]

Them jerseys?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Not tonight. No, it ain't gonna happen, partner. Yeah, I'm tell you, right. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Oo you. Hey, hey. You tread lightly, partner.

[Uncle]

All I do, I'm turning over to Joe. What? What happened with him after I put him in your hand, that's between you and Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe, I can tell you something real quick.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Go ahead, man, talk.

[Joe Johnson]

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

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[Uncle]

Kentucky beat number 10 Santa Clara in overtime. I thought I had this one. I really, really thought I had it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Joe, hold on, hold on.

[Uncle]

You picked.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh man.

[Uncle]

Joe. I had a three point lead with 2.4 seconds to go. I didn't think the guy gonna bank in a 45 footer.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, Santa Clara should be. Yeah.

[Uncle]

Ortega owe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Not today.

[Uncle]

A we scored a career high 35 points to send the seven seated Wildcats to the next round. A we submit court prayer bank then through the net. And the buzzer went off in overtime to help the Wildcats avoided upset. Alan Graves thought he had won at the game one with his game winner with two seconds left. But we made sure the Wildcats advanced. So he hits that shot. They tied up late, so make it a 72, 72. Then the guy comes down, hit a three point shot, make it 7572 and then the bank shot. Make it 7575. They had the overtime and that's why where Kentucky took control of the ball game and they ended up winning this ball game. Joe, watching this game, I mean like I said and I think when you picking these brackets, Joe, you just can't go with the, the, the higher seeds because you lose every time. You, you, you won't even make it to the six tweak 16. And so you know, at some point you got to start picking like, you know what? I think I could, I could see a potential upset here, but give Kentucky a credit for them to find a way to get this game in overtime and then win it in overtime. Speaks volume to this team.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I thought the, I thought that Kentucky got lucky, bro. They got lucky. Hey, hey. I'm rooting for the SEC throughout the whole tournament, but Santa Clara had them on their heels the whole game and they. Yeah, the entire game. And they was able to rally back. But I like the guts that they play with. I like that. What's his name? Oh, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh yeah. His brother played for the Charger.

[Uncle]

Oh, that's his brother played with the Chargers. Hold on. He just went to the Commanders. He was with the Ravens, right? Okay. Yeah, he got the big contract to go to the Commanders. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I like, I, I like the aggression that he came and played with especially late. So Kentucky could be a scary team. You know that first win. Uncle Ocho, you know, to get that dub, bro. It's hard. I don't care who you playing because that's why I say these neutral sites, it don't matter. There's no home court advantage for real. And you know it's gonna be some upsets. That's why they do the billion dollar bracket, man. Come on, please stop it.

[Uncle]

Owe. Oh, it's pronounced oh, way away. Ortega away.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Kentucky, they didn't, they got back in there. They gave themselves another chance. Oh yeah. Chance to fight another day.

[Uncle]

Better to be lucky than good. Fellas.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hello. Hello.

[Uncle]

Yeah, but I mean when you see the gentleman play, he played 43 minutes so he played all but two minutes in the game. It was 40 minute regulation and then five minute overtime. So he played 43 minutes, 35 points on 10 to 12 from the free throw line, three or eight. He also had eight rebounds, seven assists a steel the block. So he did a little bit of everything for this, for this ball club.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle]

Aberdeen had 16, the Abate 17, Garrison 10. So they got contributions from everybody. Santa Claus. Look, I don't really know what Santa Clara can do. I mean you hit, you know, you had to lead late. They tied up with a two and then you hit a, a three.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle]

And but if you notice Sarah Clara coach tried to call the timeout so he could set his defense.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle]

They didn't give it to him. So it's going to be some controversy of that. I'm sure the, the staff and the players are upset about that. I'm sure fans of Santa Clara, they're upset about that. But you know, hey. Yeah, he didn't get it. He did not. He did not getting, he did not get, get the timeout call and Kentucky hit the, the long three point shot and they went in overtime. And that's what you have to have sometimes. Like I said, it's better to be lucky than good because you have to find a way to survive in advance. That's the motto of March Madness. Survive in advance. And they definitely survived and they advanced and so we'll see if they can continue this moving forward. But I, I thought Santa Clara played, played as about as well as they can play their 10 seed players. Not Kentucky of old. They have all these five star and they had the, the Murrays and they got the Devin Bookers and they had, you know, the boogie cousins and all these guys, they don't have that level of talent currently. And so you know how many this,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

this gonna hurt though? It's gonna hurt Santa Clara.

[Uncle]

Hell yeah, it hurts.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, you You Santa Clar players. The. The. The summer gonna be long because you're gonna continue to. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, that. That was. That was luck, bro. That last shot.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Uncle]

Hey, hey.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

We in March, Ojo. This will happen when you in March.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. One game. That's all it takes. That's why it don't matter what. It don't matter. It don't matter what your season is.

[Uncle]

This is why people love March Madness so much, because it doesn't matter where you rank. I can play you close, and then I do something crazy at the end of the ball game. Make a shot like that, Right? Here's the thing. Now, that shot just got. That didn't win him the game. It just got him to overtime. They had to play well in overtime to win. So it wasn't like a shot that walked it off. They still had to play five more minutes. And so they still. You know, sometimes we've seen teams get into overtime and that's the high point. And then for whatever reason, they fall flat in overtime. Give Kentucky, because even though they were on that considerable high, they still was able to carry it out. Santa Clara, I could imagine what that did to them. I mean, all the air probably went out of their sales because, you know, hey, hey, just hit a three, it wasn't a two. So the only thing that. The only thing that happened, the best case scenario, they hit a three, we go to overtime. What's the, like, odds had to be less than 1% of that happening because they got to go to length of the court.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, hey, if you. Kentucky, are you all you. When he made that shot, I'm thinking, okay, we can't lose this game. We got new life.

[Uncle]

Yeah, we get.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

We get another chance at overtime. And that's what. That's when they kind of just took over the game. But I thought Santa Clara was great, bro. They gave him great competition. I do think they should be advancing, but we in March, fellas. Yeah, this how it goes.

[Joe Johnson]

You got one shot.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

One.

[Uncle]

I mean, Kentucky had had 22 losses on the regular season, but hey, here we are. And like you said, guys, this March Madness, Santa Clara. That one. That one. Really.

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Hurt Miami number 7 Miami beat number 10 Missouri 8066 after Missouri finally climbed ahead after hanging around all game, Miami reeled off of 11o run down the stretch to put the Hurricanes firmly in control down the stretch. Senior Malik Renault struggled early but used a couple of three pointers to find his groove. Scored 19 of his game high 24 points in the second half Friday night felt like the de facto road game for Miami, but they were able to handle the environment in the pesky Tigers to pick the Hurricanes. First NCAA tournament since 2023.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, Miami. Miami got it going, bro. I hate Missouri lost their SEC team, but I pick. I picked Miami to beat Missouri.

[Joe Johnson]

Same.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I picked Miami.

[Uncle]

I'm surprised, Ocho. You ain't got Miami going to the national championship. Yeah, you pick everything else. Miami.

[Joe Johnson]

No, no, I wouldn'. That. I wouldn't do that. You know.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You know, he. He ain't gonna pick no Hurricane over no Tiger. You know, nothing like that. You know, he be going off mascots, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, listen. Hey, hey, Joe, listen. When it comes to. When it comes to picking March Madness, listen, your basketball knowledge and your basketball prowess, it don't really matter. It don't really matter. It's all about. It's all about understanding who gonna win what game.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And who gonna get lucky.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

That's it.

[Uncle]

That.

[Joe Johnson]

That's why my bracket gonna be gonna finish first in front of both of y'. All.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Well, I'm killing y' all right now in the bracket.

[Joe Johnson]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

[Joe Johnson]

no, no, no, no, no, no. Wait. Wait till you. Wait till you see your bracket and wait till you find it tonight.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I already looked at him.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay, well, you would know. I. I am in first. That's what. That's what you're looking at, huh?

[Uncle]

You in first. Ojo. Look, the problem that you guys got is that the teams that you guys pick that y' all lost, y' all got them going winning, like picking the sweet 16. So, yeah, yeah, I lost early, but I don't got them going any further. Y' all got them guys going Sweet 16, Elite 8.

[Martha Stewart]

I got.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I got. I got. I got.

[Joe Johnson]

I got that Joe. Huh? That's Joe. Joe. Picking all the big schools to go all the way to.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, no, no, listen, I. I got. I got. I got a little room for, you know, a little. A little mistake here and there. I'm good.

[Joe Johnson]

All right, all right, listen, I.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

My.

[Joe Johnson]

I. I picked my mascots. My mascots ain't gonna let me down.

[Uncle]

We're gonna find out. We go see here shortly. West Region. Miami.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

My.

[Uncle]

Look, Miami, you know, was it one year. Miami went to the. Went to the Final Four or the

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Elite Eight, I think it was.

[Uncle]

That's when they had Jim Laraniga, who ended up taking. I think he took George. Took George Washington to the Final Four. One year. I think it was George Washington, ucla, LSU and somebody else. Because I remember going, it was an ending and I went to the, the final four matchup, not the actual game. I went to semifinals.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I think the past few years they've been pretty good. What's my man name who took over? His son. His dad played in the NBA. Lucas. John Lucas. His son is a head coach over there at the University of Miami.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Wait, right, right now, Joe?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, right now he got them boys playing good ball. I think this is, if I ain't mistaken, Ojo, this is first year. I think this is first year there.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

As head coach, I think.

[Uncle]

Yeah, but look, they should be pretty battle tested. I mean, coming out of acc, they plan a very tough conference that. I mean you obviously the selection committee, they always say that. Who's it, what, what conference did you play out of? Who did you play? Who was your non conference opponents? You know, they say all that. They say it matters. It don't matter if they want to get you in. It do matter if they don't want to get you. If they don't want to get you in. So I don't know what. Look, hopefully you, you're on a nice conference and then you, you able to play. I'm trying to see head coach.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. I mean, Miami only had eight losses this year playing in the acc. They playing in a pretty good conference. Yeah. You know, and Missouri in the sec. They ain't no bad, they ain't no slouch, you know what I mean? No.

[Uncle]

Oh, John Lucas, that's who they. Jack. Yeah, he took over for Jim Laranega, so.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, he got, he got them boys playing football.

[Uncle]

They're playing really good ball. Henderson 15, Trey Donaldson had 17, but they placed. They logged some heavy minutes. But you know, in college, you get that, Joe. Them guys be playing down the whole game. Them guys definitely be playing 37, 38 minutes.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, look, especially at this time. I mean, they, but you young, you

[Uncle]

know, Miami, you can bounce back.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. And Miami top heavy with they starting five. You know, it ain't but a 40 minute game. I mean you, I mean your best players, bro, you hope they can suck it up and still be able to, you know, continue to play through a little fatigue. I mean, like I say, man, guys ain't playing no more than six, seven dudes, man, in, in, in the NCAA tournament.

[Uncle]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Uncle Joe, they ain't really got no depth like that, huh? Off the bench, huh? Come in and make a difference.

[Uncle]

Not unless you wanted them top teams and you Got like, you got four or five, five stars, and you got three or four. Four stars and a couple. Three stars. Yeah, you can run some depth like that, but for the most part, your best guy is going to have to show to the lion's share of the. The playing time, the whole game. Because you saw CNN, they played their starting five all 40 minutes. That was the first time they. Somebody done that since DePaul did it. I think they said it's 79, so that just lets you know they ain't got no depth.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Right, right.

[Uncle]

And then plus, you look, you're number 16 team going up against the number one seed, overall seed. You got to throw caution to the win. I'm throwing every. All everything I can against the wall. Something gotta stick. Ain't really got no choice.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You can't.

[Uncle]

You.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, when you. Them smart, when you. When you play them number one seeds, man, you can't go in there. Timmy, you got to go in there swinging. Yeah, for real.

[Uncle]

I'm saying, hey, off the rip, you gotta try to keep the game close early.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. And you want to let them know. You want them to feel. You want them to know that you there. Because once they sense a little fear, boy, next thing you know, you're gonna be down 15 points.

[Uncle]

We saw that tonight with a PV.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I mean. Oh, man.

[Uncle]

I mean, it was 15. Fifteen. You look up again, it's 33. Fifteen. You look up AGAIN, now they down 20. Now they down 30. I mean, 20. What they. What were they down? 39 and a half. And the next day, you know, they're down 50.

[Joe Johnson]

That wasn't even fair, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey. Little Dante on the show. That's why I tried to tell her. I told him, hey, man, Florida got some dogs.

[Uncle]

Hey, they're just too big. You let go 6, 10, 6, 9, 6, 6, 11. I think the tallest guy that PV had was 6, 7. They just clean them. They just clean the box on the glass. I mean, just rebound after rebound, and they. And it's just.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They got. They got the. I think they got the number one. They got the number one rebound in the. In the ncaa. I can't remember his name, the big dude.

[Uncle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But they defense, he might be. He might be a lottery pick. The tall white kid, right?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, man, listen. Hey, hey.

[Uncle]

Yeah, I know exactly. Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I don't think it's. It's no bigs in the country who can deal with them boys they got down there. Now if they guards playing great, that's a bonus. Uncle Ocho, this is what you gonna get. They gonna beat you by 40, 50 points straight up, bro. Like they got the total package, man. They got some. Hey, well, I'll tell you, Florida's scared. I'm glad they way across town over there and if we meet them, it's gonna be in the, in the championship game. Get back. Gonna be a y'. All.

[Uncle]

They all are opposite sides.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle]

Florida beat PV by almost 6. Beat him by 59. But I mean we're not surprised by that. I mean that, that's, that's a, that's, that's a very good team. They were, they were ranked. Yeah, they were ranked very high in the regular season.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, not 50, not 50 guy. Not, not 50 for him.

[Joe Johnson]

No, I mean, no, not, not 50, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But yeah, yeah, we knew they probably. No, no, no, no, no, no, not,

[Uncle]

not, not, not, not first round. It's not like that. You see what prayer. You see what a Purdue won by. They won by 33.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, but look what they playing on. That's not fair.

[Uncle]

16, 6, 9. That's your front court and your tallest guy, 6 7. Man, they gonna kill you on the glass. I mean, and you can't.

[Joe Johnson]

That's tough.

[Uncle]

And you know, PV got hot there early on from the three point line. And so, you know, they made it. They made bam, bam, bam, bam. But if you ever go cold because you're not getting, you're not getting any second chances and they're going to get second chance, second chance, a third chance or fourth chance. And that's what happened. I mean, probably have to look at the rebounding they probably got out rebounded by 30. I mean you get out rebounding about 30. How many second chance points you think that's going to yield? Easy. So

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[Uncle]

You like the graphics team? Look at what the graphics the graphics had today.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, what they.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Unc.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't. Hey, I don't know how many people part of the graphics team they need a raise on. I don't know what they make, but they need a. Hey, they need a raise, boy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, people been hitting me about the graphics team, bro. How amazing they are. I don't know how y' all be coming.

[Uncle]

They did give you a little sunroof, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I know they gave me a little something. It's okay. They trying to hate. I ain't got no sunroof.

[Uncle]

I ain't.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, my hairline ain't received, bro.

[Uncle]

Well, you. You want to be Larry or you want. You want to be Larry?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey. What? Hey, which one am I?

[Uncle]

Larry.

[Joe Johnson]

Why I gotta be Larry?

[Uncle]

You just ask which one were you, then you talk about why you got to be him. Who? Okay, let me ask you a question. Who would you like to be?

[Joe Johnson]

The one in the middle.

[Uncle]

Mo. Okay. Every time we do it, we go do mo. But you not now.

[Joe Johnson]

We can't repeat the same graphic. Hey, we had a graphic team, man. Y', all, they need a raise.

[Uncle]

Everybody say you perfect for Larry Ocho. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Who me? I mean, you know, it ain't nothing but a character, that's all. Hey, when that camera rolling, you know, I turned it on now. Hey, Joe. You feeling good, Joe?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, I'm a honey, baby.

[Uncle]

What's up?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

How many show to me it.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm just making sure you good.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I don't. Hey, I don't think I even over here working on my jab. I'll be working on you.

[Joe Johnson]

I see you. I see you. Hey, hey. With your hands all the way up there, you know, your stomach and your ribs.

[Uncle]

Florida out rebound the PV by 34. 54 to 20.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, man. Yeah. Hey, they got some dogs on tall

[Uncle]

kids

[Joe Johnson]

and you know, you know, the only. You know, the only way PV could

[Uncle]

have won tonight, Joe make 33.

[Joe Johnson]

They would have had to be a bingo. And they would have had to be so efficient from the field until about super efficient where they couldn't even get the rebounds.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And they killed them. They killed them in the. In assists. I think they probably. I think Florida probably had like 26 assists. I only think PV had but like 6 assists. Bro, you can't win no games like that with no six assists. So.

[Uncle]

Hey, Joe, they would had to literally get up like 53s and probably have to make half of them to give themselves a chance.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Uncle]

Because they're so outgunned. Yukon beat Furman 82.71 tyres. Reed Jr was too much for Furman. The 611 center out re out rebounded the Paladins all by himself, hauling in 27 boards to go with 31 points. In an absolute dominant performance for UConn. The three point shot wasn't falling for the Huskies 5 or 25. But Reed is just the third player in the last 50 years to have a 3020 rebounding game in an NCAA tournament game. The 3025 in the NCAA tournament game since 1960. Elvin Hayes did it in the Elite Eight. In 1968, Elvin Hayes also did it in the first round of Loyola Chicago. Elvin Hayes did it again in the third and so did Jerry Lucas in the Elite Eight. Jerry Lucas did it again. He was on that team. He was on that team with Jerry west. If I'm not mistaken, Lucas. Now Jerry west went to West Virginia. Bobby Knight might have been on that team.

[Joe Johnson]

Wait, Bobby Knight? Bobby Knight.

[Uncle]

Look and see what I think. That was the 1960. I think Ohio State might have won the championship.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, they must have told Reed to get everything come off the glass. That man had 27 rebound.

[Uncle]

Elvin Hayes, University of Houston. He's one of the. Oh, was it Havocheck?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah,

[Uncle]

yeah, I, I was like, hold on. Yeah, Hondo Havlicek went to, went to Ohio State with, with Jerry Lucas and Bobby Knight was on that team. Jerry west went to West Virginia, but Elvin Hayes was a monster at University of Houston. He was that team that ended up beat. They beat Kareem when his prior, prior name. When he wasn't Kareem then. And then Kareem came back and just wiped. Just wiped him out in the title game. But that's a phenomenal. I mean in a college game. Yeah, in a college game, in a tournament game. I think Michael Beasley might have had a 30, 20 game. His first, his first game. Probably Shaq had one college, but I'm talking about. This is the tournament. So congratulations. That was a hell of a performance tonight. 12 or 15 from the floor. Joe, he was 31 points in 35 minutes. 12 or 15 from the floor. He didn't shoot any threes. He was seven to nine from the free throw line. 27 rebounds, three, three assists. He had 11 offensive rebounds.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Damn.

[Uncle]

They had 18 offensive rebounds as a team. The Paladins had four officer rebounds of the team. So you're going to be only do able to do so much. You keep letting teams get cracks at you on the offensive end, eventually they're going to get second chance points and they're going to start to pile up. The Paladins had, you know, two guys with dub with 20 plus points. They had another guy with 10. But and I give them credit, they hung around for a long time. This game was really, really close.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, they was fighting. They was fighting. Great game with 27 boys, man, they must have told him, hey, hey, anything come off that glass, we want you

[Uncle]

to go get it.

[Joe Johnson]

We got to have it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Because guess what? They pay guys. They pay guys to do that they pay guys.

[Uncle]

Hell, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Rebounds, like, you can make you a lot of money doing that. 31 and 27,

[Uncle]

but that's a lot of boys.

[Joe Johnson]

But no offense to output, Joe.

[Uncle]

Huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Huh?

[Joe Johnson]

With no offensive output, he had 31 points. Oh, no, no, I'm just saying. Joe say they paying you. Just, you know, grabbing rebounds.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, yeah, if you can rim roll.

[Uncle]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, Hartenstein, he's a rebounding guy, offensive guy. He set great picks. I can teach you how to do that, Ocho. Yeah, Some people just have a knack for the ball. Dennis Rodman. How you think Dennis Robin got into the league?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Uncle]

Dennis Robin probably have about six points a game, but he's crazy rebound champ.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle]

So, yeah, absolutely.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You gotta want it.

[Uncle]

And like I said, I can teach you how to sit. Hey, hey, screen. That's all you need to be able to do. Screen and rebound, man. Get you a little chain in your pocket.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's it, bro. Yeah, get you.

[Uncle]

Get you remember how you and I played? What? How we have a couple of guys on the team, all they could do is stop the run and can't get no pass rush. Just stop the run.

[Joe Johnson]

Right, right, right, right.

[Uncle]

We had big fam and Goose, y'. All Job, stop the run, keep the guys off. Ray,

[Joe Johnson]

Big. Big Sam. Adam. You know, Big Sam was over here

[Uncle]

with us, too, huh? Played with me in. In Baltimore for two years.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay, okay.

[Uncle]

I was in Seattle. When I was in Denver, Big Ted Washington. I played with Big Ted Washington, too. Big key trailer.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay. Hey. Them some big boys.

[Uncle]

Oh, my goodness.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey. Big Sam. Big Sam. And let you know he got the fastest step in the game.

[Uncle]

Don't. Don't get him started talking about, I beat you. I be. I beat you with a five. Yeah. If you go to the dinner table, that's the only place you gonna beat

[Joe Johnson]

me to that one. Hey, Joe, what's up? Hey. Big Sam Adams had to be about, what, 353. What?

[Uncle]

Easy.

[Joe Johnson]

350?

[Uncle]

Well, we don't really know because him and Goose didn't really wait. So he wouldn't wait because Goose wouldn't wait. Sam wouldn't wait.

[Joe Johnson]

Right.

[Uncle]

If Goose didn't practice, Sam wasn't gonna practice. So, you know, Rex Ryan was ID line coach at the time. So you got to realize that Marvin was the D.C. rex Ryan was the D coordinator. Jack Del Rio was the linebackers coach. We had Steve Smitty that ended up coaching at the Atlanta. Atlanta Falcons. He was on the. He's on the defensive staff also. So y' all would.

[Joe Johnson]

Y' all were loaded.

[Uncle]

That defensive staff was crazy. Crazy. And you weren't running the football. I thought. I don't. I don't know a whole lot else. But I sure hope your game plan wasn't to have your guy rush for 100 yards. Cause it wasn't happening. I mean, they didn't come close. They didn't give up. In 16 games, they didn't give up a thousand total rush yards.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hold on. They played on the line next to each other. Offensive line.

[Uncle]

So we. They'll push it. Probably about. They're probably pushing about. I give them probably. Goose might have been about 330, Sam. Probably about 345. 350. They damn. 680. Damn near 700 between the two of them.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.

[Uncle]

Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

They ain't moving nowhere to move them nowhere.

[Uncle]

It was just like when. Hold on. I think big Ted and Trucker was in Cleveland, was in Chicago together. Because I played with Ted in 94. Ted was with me end Denver in 94. Trucker was with me 91, 92. Then he left. He was a linebacker. Ate himself into a nose tackle. Y' all laughing. He did, but hell, he wasn't making weight. That was the best thing that happened to him is that they just told me, go ahead and get down to the three point stance. Cause he wasn't making weight in line back. He ain't make weight not one time. Trucker ain't make weight one time. Not ever.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, no. So they make out. They make out. They made y' all do weight and body fat.

[Uncle]

Not body fat. Just wait. Yeah, we had to wait. We had to wait every every Friday. Every Friday was weigh in.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, you get fine every pound.

[Uncle]

Every pound you get. It's 50 a pound for every pound you overweight. And then it doubles the next week and then tripled and so forth and so on.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, that's how Miami. That's how Miami Heat work.

[Uncle]

Wait, hold on.

[Joe Johnson]

You gotta have. You got to be a certain way for basketball, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, man. You gotta weigh in every Friday, okay? Ojo. And depending on your position, whether you are big or you are small, you got to have a certain amount of body fat. You know what I mean? So you got to weigh a certain amount. You got a certain amount of body fat on what they would like. So you know, if they want you at six and a half, 7% because you're a guard, then, boy, hey, they got a program for you, okay?

[Joe Johnson]

I understand.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay, so if you're a big guy and maybe they want you at 10, 9%, they got a program for you.

[Uncle]

Yeah, look here, Dan Reeves, we weigh on on Friday and like holidays. Because like the holidays, like Thanksgiving. So they would. He was like. He was like, okay, he would give you grace. But you waiting that Thursday, he's like, you know what? We're gonna have weigh in on Friday too. I ain't never. I have no problem with always. But, boy, you ought to see how many guys in that sauna. Ocho, you know what I'm talking about? How many guys in that sauna on Friday morning.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, trying to get that weight down.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's what I was saying. Hey, look, on Thursday, dudes be in the sauna. They don't even be eating. They like, we got weight and body fat tomorrow. I can't eat out there practicing.

[Uncle]

That plastic. They got them. So they got them solid jackets on. Joe out there practicing.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah,

[Uncle]

and then Friday morning they come there early, get on the bike and then get in the sauna again.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

There you go. There you go.

[Uncle]

I do all that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That was a routine. Boy, that was a routine.

[Uncle]

But hey, 50 a pound add up quick. You talk about 50 a pound. You three, four pounds over and it doubled the next week. Yeah, because it's only going to get harder as it gets colder. So if you overweight in September, October, what the hell you think gonna happen in November, December and January? Hey, they told me they got ted listed at 375. He was about that. God damn. Ted is. But Ted. But see, here's the thing. Ted was like how tall Ted was. Ted was tall. And all he wanted to do was crack jokes. Crack jokes. But don't get it mad. Don't get it mad. You got hell on your hand now. UCLA beat UCF 75, 71. The Knights put up a fight with a late surge, but the Bruins walked away with the win at the finishing with 13 steals. 9 block to kickstart their transition offense. The Knights turned the ball over 17 times compared to 8 for the Bruins and went just 5 or 16 from the free throw line. Damn. Donovan did 10.5 and says 6 steals. Ran the show for UCLA daily title. Season high with 20 points. UCLA. Sky Clark lost a teeth. Lost a tooth in a fight for a loose ball. God damn, man like that look like a real Jack Atlanta. Oh, yeah, they got. They got it where you can see the two falling out of the. Yeah, yeah. Hey, as a matter of fact, I'm going to get me some. I'M going to get some. Some. Give me some porcelain, you know what I'm saying? Oh, y', all, I want that Mondo. I want some porcelain.

[Joe Johnson]

What? Mondo.

[Uncle]

I want that real stuff. I want them real good teeth. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got that. The porcelain. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I ain't gonna do it now. They won't do it now because he gotta be. You gotta be able to see it. Okay, yeah. Oh, man. Damn, man, they got the two falls.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's a good game, huh?

[Uncle]

Falls out of his head, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Man, I had seen that, bro. Like, oh, my God.

[Uncle]

Right there on his chair. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

Got that like a hockey player now.

[Uncle]

Yeah. He said, you know what? I'll. Don't just fix that one. Go ahead and fix the front foe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Let's get.

[Uncle]

Let's get. Let's get this D line straight on, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle]

Hey. Cause, hey, ain't no sense of having 11 shiny white teeth, right? Excuse me. And then the rest of them, like, damn. Nah, you got to paint this whole face, cuz. Hey, you the best. The whole fence.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They gotta get it right. They gotta get it right.

[Uncle]

Oh, man. But, hey, you guys scrapping, guys, that's what it takes to win a. Every loose ball. We saw LeBron do something we had never seen him do for a loose ball in order to get a win, right?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hello.

[Uncle]

Okay, so you imagine what he. And you talking about a guy that's as accomplished as he is getting on the floor for a loose ball. I wouldn't be surprised. The coach says, hey, this is what it takes to win. Like, damn. That's what it take to win. As a matter of fact, if we can win the next round, I might lose another tooth.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, the boys out there fighting for their life, man.

[Uncle]

Hell, yeah. Hey, put it up on the. On your pillow, Coach. Drop him a little. Drop him a little thou up on his pillow, too, fans. They did with a tooth fairy. Bought you. It was the good old days, man. Hey, Joe, you remember you pulled. Oh, Joe, you pulled them teeth out. Put that bag up under there. You get a quarter 50 cent. A dollar.

[Joe Johnson]

I got a dollar. I got a dollar. Hey, man, you notice how when we little kids. Uncle Joe, like, one thing that your parents always tell you is they tell you not to lie. Yeah, but everything they told us was a lie. The tooth fairy was a lie. Santa Claus was a lie. I mean, every. Everything was alive. And then now y' all get on me because I be lying and capping. Well, hell, it started when I was a goddamn shorty.

[Uncle]

And then if you don't put your tongue in, it'll be a gold one will come. And when you get your two pulled, if you don't put your tongue in it, a gold will come back there. Man, I try so hard not to let my tongue touch that empty spot you by, like. Damn it.

[Joe Johnson]

Hold on. Hey, I know you used to do this. Remember when they used to tell you if you flip your eyelids, you get stuck like that?

[Uncle]

Flip them up?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, you flip them up.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey.

[Joe Johnson]

My grandma, man, stop. Boy, if you don't stop flipping it before it gets stuck.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, y' all ain't never heard of the one where they say, if you don't go to sleep on Christmas Eve, like, he gonna come throw ashes in your eye.

[Joe Johnson]

For real?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I couldn't. It was hard for me to sleep on, you know, the night before Christmas. Ocho, I can't. I couldn't wait to get up and open. I couldn't wait to get up and open my present. So they'll come. Hey, if you don't go to sleep, well, you know you're gonna come put some ashes in your eyes.

[Uncle]

What?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And all kind of sin every time

[Joe Johnson]

I think about it, Joe, you know, man, we were so performative, man. I'm putting out milk and cookies. I'm happy. My grandma, my grandma, my mama. No, just put. Just put three chocolate chip cookies, put some milk out there. You know, standing. Gonna come down and we drop the presents off. You know, he gonna enjoy some milk and cookies. So. Yeah, now that I think about it, as I get older, like. Like, y'.

[Uncle]

All.

[Joe Johnson]

Y' all really played me.

[Uncle]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey. Quiet is kept, though. I'm repeating the cycle. I ain't gonna lie to you.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, you're doing it. Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm repeating it, too, so I ain't gonna lie to you.

[Uncle]

Hey, French fry.

[Joe Johnson]

French fries swear. French fries swear It's a Santa Claus, boy.

[Uncle]

Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't tell her no different.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, I'm not. I'm not. I'm gonna let. I'll let her enjoy it till she

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

get old enough to understand.

[Uncle]

They'd have put out a little bit more money. I might have pulled out all my teeth. Hey, that bit is like, damn. Hold on. For one tooth, I got 32 of these things. Yo, I helped you. I started adding up back in this early 70s. Hold on, man. That's 16. 1650. I got a dollar off.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It was always.

[Uncle]

Make some real money.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah, yeah. It's always weird when you lose a tooth, though, that little size. Yeah, yeah.

[Uncle]

You definitely didn't want to lose them thing on the front. The side wasn't that bad, but man, I don't know what that. Front. The front. Yeah. I should have. I should have did. Like my uncle.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

My.

[Uncle]

My uncle lost the tooth and my grandfather, papa put. Put a quarter up on his pillow. They had killed a hog like a week or so earlier through the head. Out of the woods, he went and got a pair of plows and pulled out every tooth in the hog's head and put him up on this pillar.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Man, stop it.

[Uncle]

He think, hey, oh, Jojo. He said, if I got a quarter for what? How much you think I get for 40, 50, right? Boy, my grandma said she went away, went to make up the bed and say. She the sheet and say, man, them teeth hit the floor. She said, I shut down on his ass. Because, you know, back then, hey, no more. People didn't play. They didn't play the drum. They ain't played no kind of way with no kids. All that back talking. I don't know. I don't know when this generation started about that back talking and being flip at the lip.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Talking about.

[Uncle]

I said, I. I don't know what happened in North. I don't know what happened in Midwest, and I don't know what happened in, In.

[Joe Johnson]

In.

[Uncle]

In. In. In the west. But I know in the south, where I grew up, that was a no game play, that.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey. Same. Same thing over here.

[Uncle]

Nah, that was a talk.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hold on. You talk. Hey, you talking about talking back, you better make sure your facial expression don't change either.

[Uncle]

What?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Right?

[Uncle]

You couldn't say lie.

[Joe Johnson]

Wait.

[Uncle]

You better say you've telling the tale.

[Joe Johnson]

Fix your face.

[Uncle]

Oh, that's a lot. What you say? He telling the tail. He telling the tail. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You couldn't say that.

[Uncle]

I don't know where these kids got that from, that talking back and that, hey, that kissing your teeth, we call it. Yes. Yeah, yep.

[Joe Johnson]

Man, please.

[Uncle]

All that.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, play around. Hey, play around if you want to pop, you right. She'll pop, boy, if you don't stop,

[Uncle]

look, go back and I. I understand because that's how they. That's how they were raised. It was structured. You know, even as my grandma, my aunts and uncles, they were grown. It wasn't that, you know, whatever my grandfather said, just to keep the peace because they know how he was. And you didn't ever want to get him to 10. Because you got him to 10. Yeah, it gonna take days, probably a week to get him down. So just. Hey, whatever, Whatever Barney said, just go. Just ride with it. He could be wrong. Just ride with it. Keep it moving. But all that talking back the grands, like, none of that play. Play all that stuff. I don't know where the key. Oh, Jojo, I don't know where the key get that from. I don't know.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, but they like. They like to play games now. They have your own camera recording you. They. Hey, man, I don't want to be on no tick tock. Don't be tick tocking me.

[Uncle]

I don't play that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I don't play for real.

[Uncle]

Oh, they was gonna do what you call them. You remember the show MTV Punk?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Uncle]

Ason Cushion had it punk me.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They finna try to get you.

[Uncle]

Hey, Kayla say, don't do that. My daddy. Y' all know. Y' all don't know my daddy. My daddy hurt somebody.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, uncle, you would have snapped on him.

[Uncle]

Because I don't play like that. I ain't know guys to tell you anybody that's ever. I don't play like that.

[Joe Johnson]

No, I'm gonna make sure I get you there. I'm gonna make sure I get you, see?

[Uncle]

Hey, well, you better make sure ain't no cameras around. Cause you. Cause we gonna get canceled. Cause I will show. I'm gonna go ahead and. Go ahead and tell you, But. But I think that's the thing. Just like that's a Southern thing. And like I said, I don't. I don't know. Like I said, I didn't grow up anywhere else but the South. And I know everybody that I was around, their parents and grandparents didn't play like that. They want all that joking and Kiki keying and all that running out in and out of the house and that loud talking. Papa, I was sleep boy. You bet. Lord have boy. Hey, it's funny, like. Because, like, when me and Spanky get together, we talk. We talk about, like, how we grew up and. And listen to other people, how they grew up. I was like, y' all got to do that. Y' all could do that. You couldn't just go. You couldn't just go, Joe. At my house, like, okay, I'm gonna go fix me something to eat. You had to ask.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle]

You just couldn't go get it. If something's in the refrigerator, like real food, like, if you want to make cereal, that's fine. But when it came to food, food, like Rice and beans and chicken or something like that. Boy, you better not go in that refrigerator and go in granny pots.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, okay, Ocho. My auntie used to shut the kitchen down. You couldn't even go in the kitchen. And like after 9:30.

[Uncle]

Bro, she was a military.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Military lady. She ain't played it military. Hey, at the nine. Not at the nine o'. Clock.

[Joe Johnson]

No food.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Don't take your ass in my kitchen.

[Uncle]

Yeah, but see, that was the thing where we like going to our dad's moms. Cause she. Because they didn't. Because we didn't get to see them that often. So, you know, the parent is just like anything. The parent that don't get to see you that often. What they do, Ocho, they overdo. Let's go get this.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Uncle]

So papa would tell me a spanky they pick up. We come off from school. I'm gonna take you to your grand. He called William and Charlie. That was the name. But granted. William granted. And Grandma Charlie. Well, I'm. Y' all gonna spend the weekend and we. Hey. Okay. You thought. Because if you. If you pretended like you wanted to go, he might shut that down. Yeah, he might shut that all the way down, man. As soon as we hit the dope. Soon. Hey. Cause we gotta wait to see. Hey, don't be giving them all that sweet so forth and so on.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Boy A. Yeah, man.

[Uncle]

Spanking. We look right there. Cold. As soon as that joker turned down and hit that left and getting up out of there. Grandma Charlie, we want to go to the store. Here y' all go. Bring me my. Bring me my purse. Boys, here's a dollar. I push that door. Man speaking. Push that door over down to the.

[Joe Johnson]

Y' all gone.

[Uncle]

And Saturday, they wait till we get there and we going. We going grocery shopping. That's the only time you put stuff in the buggy. Because Mary Porter wouldn't let you put ish in that buggy in Glenville. Nah, he would put nothing in granny buggy. Grandma Charlie get what you want, boy. Man, I got Froot Loops. I got Apple Jacks. I got Giggle Snacks. I got Honey Buns. I got chips. We get hot dogs.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle]

What?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, Uncle Joe. You know what it felt like back then, especially when he was a little kid. And you get a dollar, maybe two dollars. And let's. Let's say you get five. You get five dollars. Well, you know what that feel like as a kid. What you roll and then you got. I don't know, Joe. I don't know if y' all had it. Joe, you had a candy lady house where you from?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, man.

[Joe Johnson]

You get. Man, you get about 2, $3 for doing your chores from your grandma, man. And you go to the candy lady house. Man, I could get some. Get some lemon head. Get some baked beans, man. Get some. Goddamn. I don't know if y' all eat pickle eggs. You eat pickle eggs?

[Uncle]

Joe, you talking about that lemon head like this?

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[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle]

Well, how you got them off? You know, I can't. I got a little candle with death.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Joe. Eggs and the hot sauce. And Joe. Yeah, man, couldn't tell me nothing. Give him a little jungle juice.

[Uncle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That. The hissing treat.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle]

Oh, yeah. Sometimes I go to the store, Ocho, just to get the T Street 25 gallon jungle juice. Yeah, I get all that. Yeah, but, you know, back then, candy was a penny. You get penny candy. So you get 50 piece of candy for 50 cent.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

How much was chips back then? How much. How much did a little bag of chips?

[Uncle]

25 cents. Because, you know, like, field day, you got those wise potato chips. Had a little owl on the bag. The little bag. So that was like 15 cents. Yeah, but lays with, like, 20, you get laid for like, 25 cents. Coca Cola was 25 cent. Honey Bun was 25 cent.

[Joe Johnson]

So.

[Uncle]

Oh, yeah, stuff was cheap back then. So a dollar went a long way. Boy, it was $5. 250 for me. 250 was spanking.

[Joe Johnson]

See? Spanking.

[Uncle]

I ain't saving nothing, boy. Don't spit it all in one place. Where you want to take me? Multiple places. Cause you taking me to one place, it's gone, right?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, listen. Hey. What? Nothing like getting that honey bun, cranking that thing over, put it in the microwave.

[Joe Johnson]

Microwave.

[Uncle]

11 seconds.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

10 seconds.

[Joe Johnson]

11.

[Uncle]

Y' all had a microwave? Yeah, look, I'm saying. Look.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, I'm talking about at the. At the corner store. At the store. Microwave.

[Uncle]

And you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And you warm that thing up.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, ain't nothing like, hey, Joe. Hey, you ever had the. The big Texas cinnamon rolls that come in the purple package, man?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Come on, stop playing.

[Joe Johnson]

And you put them in the mic and you put them in the microwave.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He ate them little Swiss pecan rolls.

[Uncle]

Hey, that truck Dr. Hey, that truck driver steak. That's what they call honey buns in the south truck driver state. Cause you see them trucking. They hopped out of that truck. They gonna get. They go get a honey bun, they'll get some chips, and they gonna get a Coke. Hop back over there, hit that road or the vine assault, you know, buying the salt. You remember they had the vinyl sausages, and then they came with the big can. Cause the small can have about seven in there. The big can have about 14.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle]

Now you, Big Willie, they get the 14 can. You get that big, big can. I don't know if they still make the big cans like that, but. And them sardines. You eat sardines, Joe?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I still eat them to this day, the sardines.

[Uncle]

And then they came out with the sardines with the mustard in there.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I ain't never had that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You eat sardines, ojo?

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, I never had that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, them good Omega threes for you, bro.

[Uncle]

They fatty now. They fatty.

[Joe Johnson]

What that means?

[Uncle]

That's the fatty fish. That's the fattest. Fattest fish you could eat is sardines. Okay, but they good. They small. They small fish. They bigger than ant. They small. They. I hadn't had sardines. I mean, I don't think I had sardines since. Since I left Glenville.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Eat them with. Eating with some crackers. A little white saltine cracker. Yeah, I already know, boy. Hey, that's a go to right now while y' all playing.

[Uncle]

I ain't had no sardines. I had no buying the sausages. I had none of that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, I ain't had no buying the sausage, but I had some sardines, see?

[Uncle]

See, Ocho? So you don't got outside yourself. You don't eat like that no more.

[Joe Johnson]

Who? No, no, no. Every. Everything else I name, I still eat. But. Hey, Unc. But if I'm at grandma house and I hear that ice cream truck come around the corner, well, I'm shooting outside, boy. I can still get my pickle eggs. I can still get my pickle eggs and my hot sauces off the ice cream truck.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, boy, you will run that ice cream truck down, ain't you?

[Joe Johnson]

Man down.

[Uncle]

We had a guy used to come by and sell fruit. Fruit named Mr. Lester Dimson. I never forget. He said he had bananas, he had apples, oranges, pears, man, he drove. And he drove the school bus. Cause we rolled School Bus 31. He drove us 32, man. Mr. Listen, just coming out there. Oh, man, Didn't realize how broke you were. Because everybody else was broke just like you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

There you go, there you go. There you go. Real talk. Yeah, you had.

[Uncle]

You had like, damn. And I look back now, they talking about, oh, the poverty. Yeah, yeah, we way below poverty. If we way below. I don't know what poverty was, but we was below that. So whatever. Okay, this poverty right here. So what's this right here? We below that. People know that. But with everybody eating, what you eating, doing the same thing you doing, you don't think about it. It wasn't like nobody had getting new cars. I had all this others, this lavish stuff. Ain't nobody had nothing like that made you appreciate everything that you got.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

There you go.

[Uncle]

That you got.

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