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Nightcap - Hour 1: Kenyon Martin Sr. joins the show to discuss the Lakers beating the Thunder, & UConn wins the National Championship
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Wendy
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Kmart
A cootie that'll probably take down our whole family.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What up with you, huh?
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I'm good. I'm good bro. Thanks for joining us.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No problem. Oh child. What up Mike?
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Shannon Sharpe
Let's jump right into it, Kmart. We saw the Lakers go on the road and they did a demolition job on what many believe are the one of the two best teams in all of basketball. Shay is going to win the mvp. But the Lakers went in and they took them apart. They really never trailed in the game. They got the lead and they dominated them. Ended up beating them by 26. Luca was sensational today. He had 30 plus 18 and plus minus Austin Reeves 20 plus 14 plus minus. LeBron chipped in with 19 plus 7 plus minus Rui had 11. But they got great production off the bench. Dorian Finney, Smith 14 points, Gabe Vincent 12 points with a lot of guys chipping in. They cleaned them up on the glass. They did a great job. I think the best thing they did today, Kmart, is they kept Shay ass off the free throw line and if you can do that because you know he going to normally get to the free throw line about 10, 15 times a game. But I thought they dominated this game. What did you like about what you saw from the Lakers today?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They just used the the experience man. Young team early on this early Sunday caught them young boys, man. Some of them boys went out last night man and they didn't know the importance of the game. They already been saying got the west under they belt. So they like hey man we can afford this one man. No, the Lakers did what they had to do. They came in and they put belt to them, you know what I'm saying? Like they should have. They need this win, they fighting for something. Oklahoma City already, they already locked in, man. So I think it meant more to the Lakers to come in and play this way than it did for Oklahoma City.
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Shannon Sharpe
Are you surprised at the margin of victory that the Lakers. Okay, Lakers might have win. You said all the things being true. Okay, okc probably not taking the game as serious as they normally would. That is an early, early game for them. They don't play very many games. What time is that? That'll be probably 2:30 that time. So they don't play very many games like that. They either play, you know, 4:30 or they play the late, late games being on the West Coast. But are you surprised by how well the Lakers played considering this might be a. At some point in time, this might be a matchup in the playoffs.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
All right, listen, man, I ain't riding with your Lakers like you are, dog. I know what you're trying to do. If you don't watch the show daily, man, with me, man. I've been looking at the comments, man. Lakers and five, all that. Hey, hey, listen, man. Right now they gonna have to prove it to me. But.
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Shannon Sharpe
You said they young, Kmart. You said they young.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, I wouldn't listen. I would not want to play the Lakers in the first round if I was any team in the west, you know what I'm saying? Just because of the simple fact they have two game changers in Braun and Luca. Not taking anything off them guys plate. But I want to see the who, who they match up with in their first round. That's. That's key to me, you know, if they mess around and the Nuggets slide to four or five and y'all in four or five, it ain't looking too good, man.
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Shannon Sharpe
So it could be anybody. It could be the Nuggets, it could be Golden State, or it could be the Clippers, because the Clippers look really good as of late. So it could be any one of those. The Nuggets, the Warriors or the Clippers. Who do you think is the. Is the best matchup? Who do you think the luggage the Lakers least want to face? And who do you think says, okay, this is a nice matchup for us.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I think they would want to face the Clippers. I would, I would stay away from Denver by all cost if I was them. I really, I really would stay away from them. They. It's been proven when it's time. Time on the line, they can't beat them. So I would, I would stay away from them no matter who y'all had Anthony Davis, who's a hell of a defender. He could do what Nicole. So I, I would stay. I. I would stay away from the Denver Nuggets at all cost.
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Kmart
So Kmart, even though the Lakers have been hot lately, you know they got the momentum going to the play in going into the playoffs, whatever it may be. Just so happened, hypothetically speaking, they do get the Nuggets. So you think the Lakers don't stand a chance at all if they have Denver in the first round? No, ain't no chance at all.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, I've been. Me and Gil been going back and forth about this for weeks now since the Luca trade. We've been going back and forth about this specific topic. And I'm not rolling Luke an equalizer to Nicole. No, he's not. I don't care what. There's no equalizer to Nicola in the National Basketball Association. Look at what y'all been doing.
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Shannon Sharpe
This is where. This is why I disagree with you. I believe they can let Luca get. Because. Excuse me, let Nicola. Nicola right now has 30, 37, 13 and 11 and they're down 10. So you can give him the problem that the Lakers were having. Yoke was getting his. But they were letting Murray get 30. They were letting Michael Porter Jr get 25. That is where you run into the problem, Nicole. It doesn't matter. You can have Anthony Davis, you can have Joel Embiid, whoever you feel is a defensive center. Obviously those guys are great two way players. You can give that, you can give him his 40, 15 and 15. But what you can allow are the others. And that's what beat the Lakers. You look at Jamal Murray numbers against the Lakers. He's an allstar. He's an all NBA player when he plays the Lakers. Kmart, absolutely.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Y'all should want to stay away from him at all cost because he's still there. But I don't know if you know, he still play for the Nuggets and Michael Porter still play for the Nuggets and Aaron Gordon still play for the Nuggets.
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Shannon Sharpe
So all only plays good against the Nuggets. But this is where I got. This is what we got. Now you think about it right now over the last two weeks, our third best playoffs has been the one of the best players in NBA history. Luka gonna give you what he gonna give you. You know that. I know that. Austin Reeves should win most improved. There ain't very many third options better than Austin Reed. Now let the lo and behold. So who are your two best players? So which One gonna grab Luca, which one gonna grab Austin Reeves? And which one gonna do something with go James? I'm just waiting for you. You a defensive specialist. Who you putting on Luca?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Listen, man, we're gonna put the way on God. Y'all can't guard us, so it don't matter. Listen, Luca can do what we do because listen, one, y'all gonna have to put some non shooters out there. Doran, Finnish, Smith. I'm not rolling right now. You gotta play Vando. Vando can't hit his ass with both hands.
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Shannon Sharpe
Defense, that's all we need him to do.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Leave him open. We gonna double Luke, double Braun, gonna make them other guys make plays. Austin Reeves can't carry y'all in the playoff series. I'm telling you, A.J.
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Shannon Sharpe
You saw it. You could have been doing Kmart. Don't do it.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's a regular season, not in the playoffs, man.
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Shannon Sharpe
Now, when did you see him against Memphis? When he got his horns. When he got them baby horns. You saw him against Memphis.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Now, when you're the third option, man, like when you almost got reported as a third option. It's a lot different the playoff series, man. They gonna make that boy do something he ain't comfortable doing out there.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, like dropping 35 on y'all. We ain't coming dropping 35, but he'll get it.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay. Okay.
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Shannon Sharpe
Everybod said they're gonna double hookah.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They gonna have to average it. I don't think he capable of doing that.
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh, we don't need him to average that. We just need to average what he averaging.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay?
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Shannon Sharpe
If I got to average what they average in the regular season, we cool.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That ain't gonna be enough. Right?
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Shannon Sharpe
Ain't gonna be enough.
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Kmart
Hey, Kmart, look at. Looking at the landscape of the playoffs right now, where the seating is right now, and looking at the table, who's a playoff sleeper squad that can surprise everybody and make it all the way to the conference final? Somebody nobody's talking about. But they playing well enough. If they get in the plan or they get in the playoffs in general, they got a chance to surprise somebody and get to the final.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That Golden State Warriors Conference finals at that Golden State warriors, man, like, they. Yeah, I'm. I, I. The way they playing, man, they got some equalizers that people not thinking about. They did some pieces that they haven't had before. Right, Right. The kid Quinn post like a big. Like they. They need that where they can. They can go big, they can play small. They can. They can play meaning like, they can play Draymond at the 5, Kamiga at the 4. You can play that well. You can play big. You can play Draymond, Kamiga and Post. You can play Trace Jackson. So it's different lineups that you can go with, man, if a Jeff skis playing right now. So yes, I would not want to play them. The way I'm saying, the way Wardell out there playing and he got them boys believing and they didn't threw Jimmy in there. And his. His approach to the game is. Is infectious to the locker room. So he challenges guys in a way that Draymond has always had to be that voice. And at times it can get old. So now when you got a new voice in the locker room that's preaching the same thing and that's been. And that's took lesser talented teams to two finals, right? They. They can be scary, man. With the same coaching with Steve Curse and just. It could be scary. I ain't saying it, but it could be scary.
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Shannon Sharpe
Can you see that, Kmart?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, I see your hand. I know you used to catch. I know you used to catch. I know you used to catch passes with them. I don't know what the rest of that mean.
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Shannon Sharpe
Hey, Steph Curry, Curry goat, curry chicken. It don't matter liquor than this many.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Listen, you're right. Curry goat, Absolutely. Hey, trust me.
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Kmart
Yo, shut up.
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Shannon Sharpe
But Shay. Look, I think Shay should. Shay should win the mvp.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Nope.
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Shannon Sharpe
He is not the best player. Okay? Not to me. Now you I'm gonna let. I want to hear what you have to say. I think based on what he's done, his team's record, I think he had his 71st game where he scored at least 20 points consecutive, which is the long. Which is one of the longest streaks in NBA history. What he's been able to do, how he's been able to lead this team, I think he's first or second in steals. He's shooting a very high percentage for a guard. Normally, guards that averaging 30 don't shoot 50 plus percent from the floor. That's what he's doing. But when you look at Nikola Jokic. If I say I will give you a player to take, Kmart, you get you got the number one overall draft pick and you get to select anybody. Who you taking?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm taking Nicola Yokos off top.
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Shannon Sharpe
What is it about him? What is it about him, Kmart, that you like so much?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It makes everybody around him better, and it's effortless. Like, he's not like with Shay. Shay is a hell of A talent. Don't get me wrong, I'm not taking anything off his talent. He is definitely MVP worthy and in my opinion he should have got it last year. I think whoever the voters they drop the ball and not giving him his just due last year because he's doing the same thing he's doing last this year. Hazy did last year team has the best record. He's averaging 30. He just averaging two more points than he averaged last year. That's it. And they got better. They add Hardenstein. Chad is coming to his own because an all star on his team. And Williams, Jayla Williams, all the things that he did last, he's doing again this year. And for them to give it to Nicola last year spokes by it spoke volumes to me. Like we recognize what he's doing. Nicole is playing the best basketball he's ever seen that we've seen him play within the three MVPs that he has already.
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Shannon Sharpe
Absolutely. I had no question.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So you're going to penalize somebody who you've already given three MVPs to and he hasn't played this well in those three MVP seasons. So I'm like, what, what else can we see from Shay? Shay. Shay would have to average a double double in this NBA in order for us to put it in order for me. I've seen guys average 30 before. I've seen guys get to the free throw line a lot. I've seen that James Harden did. But nobody was doing what Nicola is doing in James Harden season where no it was no way to compare to him. Right. So my thing for Nicola, it's, it's you watch it and you like what else can he do? And he doesn't. And you watch it again like what else can he do? And he does it like it's like when we are looking at history here and I don't want to see us as in league do the same thing that the NFL do that they did to Lamar Jackson with messing with the history of the game. Like we're talking about the history of the game here. What Nikola is doing.
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Shannon Sharpe
And he's gonna, he's gonna average a triple double this year. He's gonna average a triple double. And I said, and Ocho, I'll let you go after this. We're gonna look back and we're gonna look at it like we did that 61, 62 season when Will averaged 50 and 25 and he didn't win the MVP. We're gonna look back 30 years from now and look at Nikola Yoki's number where he averaged a 30 point triple double. And they say, well, he didn't win the mvp. They're like, well, who in the hell beat him out?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Exactly. So this is. And guys, certain voters have already got their mind made up on who they was voting for before the season is over. Which is. Which is bogus to me, right, guys, they got to finish the season out. So you can't discredit this 60 point triple duck that this man just had. And people. And people had already had their vote already cast before this game, before the last two weeks of the season. So you can't do that. And so how can you. Oh, he's my mvp. He's my mvp. He's my mvp. When Shay can come out and mess around, have a 70 point game for other people that might have had Nicole as the mvp. So I just think it's. It's incomplete. It's never been a cold. It's been cold Rookie of the year before. So people are afraid. People are afraid to do that. Which if you're really looking at it, be honest. They both are deserving of the war. They both are deserving of the war. But. Right. They're not gonna do it. It's not gonna be cold. And what is looking up to be that Shay will have his first MVP and the other guy would be left holding his job. Yeah.
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Kmart
Well, hold on, K. I got. I got a question. Not to minimize anything that Luke is doing, do you ever take an account the surroundings, the supporting cast that Luca has?
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Shannon Sharpe
You mean Yoko?
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Kmart
You ever take into account that SGA is doing what he's doing with less?
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Shannon Sharpe
No.
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Kmart
Do we ever take.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No.
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Shannon Sharpe
Jokic. Nicola Jokic in Denver? Not Luca.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, no.
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Shannon Sharpe
I mean.
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Kmart
I mean, Joe. I meant to say Joker. My bad, my bad, my bad.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Well, if you really want to be honest about it, Nicola Jokic has never played with All Star, so Jay has an all Star this year. So.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yep.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Until. Until Russ got there. So he's been doing all this with the All Star. So Jamal Murray is an all star caliber player. Yes. Should he have made an all star team up at this point? Absolutely. And we think that. But he's been getting snubbed. So for whatever reason, he hasn't. And Nakola has been carrying the load.
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Kmart
That's hard, man.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I don't see that.
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Shannon Sharpe
And Lou Dort is an all defensive player.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Alex Caruso is an all defensive player. So Yoke, I mean, I think the thing is that Yoke is asked to do a little bit more. It'd Been interesting. Let me ask you this. Let me put it to you like this, Kmart. Let's just say for the sake of argument. Well, we see OKC, they have 64 wins. What would be the situation if the Nuggets had 60 wins? Could you make a more compelling case if he had 60 wins? They're in the second seed as opposed to right now. The Knuckles are the four seed and they're 17 games back.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
17 games back. I'm. I'm top three in points, rebounds, assists and steals. Top three in four major categories in the National Basketball Association. 60 wins. 65 wins. They could have. They could have broke the warriors record. The gold. OKC could have broke the gold record. Hey, man. Top three and four major categories. You can't. There's nothing no one can tell me they got six to win. There's 17 games back. All. Yes, all those things exist and at the same time that this man is out here with history. So yes, Shay, absolutely. But hey, I'm getting the big guy some love, man.
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Shannon Sharpe
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Kmart
Who's paying for the mattress topper?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You mean the beanbag chair? Aren't we getting a mini fridge?
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Wendy
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Shannon Sharpe
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Wendy
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Hypnotic Host
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ooh. But then again, you could look at Odoo in terms of how its individual.
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Shannon Sharpe
Software programs are a lot like building blocks.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Whatever your business needs, manufacturing, accounting, HR.
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Shannon Sharpe
Programs, you can build a custom software.
- [28:50]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Suite that's perfect for your company.
- [28:52]
Shannon Sharpe
So what is Odoo?
- [28:53]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Well, Odoo is a bit of everything. Odoo is a fertilizer.
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Shannon Sharpe
Magic beanstalk Building blocks for business. Yeah, that's it.
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Hypnotic Host
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Kmart
He got he done got love three times already and a lot of Them.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And it was, in a lot of people's opinion, it was questionable. This one shouldn't be. See, this is when you start when you should have gave Joel Embiid the award and you gave it to Nicole and then you try to piggyback, okay, we messed up last year. Now we want to give it to you again this year. Okay, we should have gave it to this year. Now we gave it to Yanni.
- [29:43]
Shannon Sharpe
Messing up.
- [29:44]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So when you start messing with it now, you trying to play catch up, right? So you're messing with the game and you mess with the history of the game. When you try to play catch up and not looking at the totality of what everybody else is saying, right? Like, oh, we didn't want to give him three in a row, but we. He has three. We just gonna skip a year because nobody has won three in a row year. So we don't want to give him three in a row.
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Shannon Sharpe
So. Well, Larry Bird was the last to win three in a row. He won 84, 85, 86.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
86. Well, you know, since. Yeah, no one else. No one else, rather. But like, they didn't want. They wanted Larry to be the only one.
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Shannon Sharpe
So.
- [30:22]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, they wouldn't go do that again.
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Kmart
Hey, you know what? How well do y'all know about the people that do the voting for the mvp? How well do you know?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Is it.
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Kmart
Is it former players?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No.
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Kmart
Other people that just sit in the position of power, that we're suit and ties?
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Shannon Sharpe
It's the same people that vote for the. For the NFL. You have report you journalists. There are a couple of NFL. There are a couple of NFL players that have vote. I think Kendrick Perkins has a vote. There are several NBA players that work in the capacity of their NFL Net, the NBA Network, NBA tv, excuse me, NBA tv, espn, I think so there are a few, but most of the time, Kmart, you know this. You played 15 years. It's mainly the journalists that cover the NBA, the beat writers that have the votes.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And I have a problem with it because if you're on the east coast, you're not staying up to watch every game. That's on the West Coast.
- [31:20]
Shannon Sharpe
True.
- [31:21]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And vice versa, guy that's on the West Coast. You had work when them games start a lot of times early to catch.
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Shannon Sharpe
You doing other stuff.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You're not going to a sports bar where they got 12 TVs on the wall. You actually watching games and you going to arenas and you spending your dime when your team is not traveling to these cities to go watch these guys Play.
- [31:42]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [31:43]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So you're, you're. It's, it's, it's biased. It's regional bias is what it is.
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Shannon Sharpe
Kmart, did you check this game out today? Sacramento and Cleveland. I think Cleveland's going in the wrong direction. Sacramento won this game 121 13. Zach Levine was sensational, 37 points on 15 of 21, 7, 11 for 3. But it was Deebo DeMar DeRozan 10 of 18, 2 of 5 from 3, 6 of 6 from 6 of 8. From the free throw line, he had 28, Sabonis had 27. It seems like to me, the Claverliz picked the worst time to start this slide. And I think, if I'm not mistaken, I think they've lost three or five over the last week. And it seemed, it just seems to me. K Bar, I want you to chime in here, what are you seeing from the Cavaliers? Because at one point in time we thought, okay, they can really challenge Boston. They get home court. They can beat Boston. Now. I don't think. I don't give a damn where they play it. They can't beat Boston.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I don't believe Cleveland. I've been saying they was gonna have to get out the first round for me to believe in them, and that's just the way it was for me. They was gonna have to get out the first round. So. And the way they playing right now, it seems as they gonna prove me right. It's gonna. If they do get out the first round, it's gonna be. It's gonna be a do. Right?
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Shannon Sharpe
Right.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And they bet they better hope that that Orlando Magic team don't land at 8.
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Shannon Sharpe
That boy ban Cara and Franz Bogner.
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Kmart
Hey, he the real.
- [33:13]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They believe they can be that real. And they believe they can beat Cleveland.
- [33:20]
Shannon Sharpe
They beat Cleveland. When Cleveland had that 16, 17 game win streak, they went to Cleveland. They believe.
- [33:26]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They believe they can beat them.
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Kmart
You got to understand, not in one game is one thing. Not playing against, playing against them boys in the whole seven game series, that's a different ball game. Especially the playoff experience.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They did it last year. Listen, they took Cleveland only one on their own floor last year. They played this same, this young Orlando team last year. Yeah, they played them last year and they took them to seven games. And yeah, Cleveland didn't win in Orlando.
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Shannon Sharpe
And when you look, if you look at it, I don't even believe they'd have been in the eight spot. They'd have had one of those first six spots had Bano not got hurt. This Year had Franz Wagner had got Kurt and some of these. And a lot of these injuries, they overlap. So they were playing without both of those big guns. Van Carroll went to the all star game. Franz Wagner is playing like an all star. This team. Oh, they, they, they, they bet. Because we don't really. Unless you really follow the NBA, Kmart, like you and I, we have to. You don't really realize how good Orlando is. Bankero is a bull.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Absolutely, man.
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Shannon Sharpe
That joker. Hey, that's a grown ass, man. Even though he only 20, 21 years of age. That's a grown man.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. No, I'm saying I think France, he would have been a hostile had he not got hurt. Because they would have been the top three. 14, you know what I'm saying? So dark as hell. Let me get some light, fellas. Hold on.
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Kmart
But with that. That's a fish tank back there.
- [34:56]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, buddy.
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Shannon Sharpe
No, that's what you call him. He's shooting in a 210 P. Hey.
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Kmart
He got, he got money.
- [35:05]
Shannon Sharpe
You got that dial up aol Kmart. Damn.
- [35:13]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I was using natural sunlight from the joint, man, and then had a light zone. So you know what I'm saying? I had to give us.
- [35:20]
Shannon Sharpe
They hit me up in his head. We ain't no Kmart with the complexion of OO and.
- [35:26]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Trying to use the natural light.
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Shannon Sharpe
Got dark overnight. We just saw him on Kim on Friday.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, no, I mean, I think Cleveland, they, they. I like the way they've been playing during the regular season. I like adding Kenny Atkinson as a coach. I like them having two bigs running the same system. System that Golden State ran with two bigs. But they gotta prove it to me in the playoffs, man. They two small guards in the backcourt are very good, but when it comes down to it, that's going to be tough, man. I think. But it's wrong matchup, like I said, go that, that Orlando matchup for Cleveland to be tough, but. Yeah, I don't think they can be boss. I don't think nobody can be Boston right now.
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Shannon Sharpe
Nah. Boston. Boston.
- [36:15]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hold on.
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Kmart
So hold on, hold on, K. Wait a minute now.
- [36:18]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Kmart
So you got. You got the Celtics winning it again that you got them repeating and coming out the East.
- [36:23]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Absolutely.
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Kmart
You sure?
- [36:26]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes.
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Kmart
You want to put something on that?
- [36:30]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. What you. Hey, man, I don't turn nothing down on my collar, bro.
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Kmart
Man, listen, make it light on yourself.
- [36:36]
Shannon Sharpe
You don't pay Kmart, he still owe me 5200.
- [36:38]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I heard that. See the thing, See the thing about me Hunger. See, I'm confrontational. See. I'll come look for you. I need my. I need my.
- [36:49]
Shannon Sharpe
I give you a band. Get mine while you at it.
- [36:53]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, see, see the thing is the un nice. He ain't garnishing your wages yet, you know what I'm saying? He trying to be the honorable thing and let you pay, you know what I'm saying? So he gonna start taking it out your check, you know what I'm saying?
- [37:07]
Shannon Sharpe
He don't understand. When you get your wages, garnish that go on your credit report.
- [37:11]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Absolutely.
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Kmart
We can say, hey, K Bar, you coming to see about your money?
- [37:15]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, man, I need my chabata, man. You know what I'm saying? I need mine.
- [37:20]
Shannon Sharpe
Jack Kmart. The Yukon lady. The Lady Huskies top the Lady Gamecock from South Carolina to record the 12th Street. I mean, excuse me, the 12 overall NCAA titles. Paige Beckers exit on top all season as he fud Sarah Strong. Paige Beckers was too much as all three made the all tournament team. Fudd had 24 points to lead UConn and was named most outstanding player. I knew this game was over when Paige Beckers had three points and they was already up 12. I said, well, it's over. Yeah, he ain't even really doing a whole lot and the game is already over. Kmart.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, nah, it was. It was hell of a performance by them, especially defensively. Man, you look at that box score for South Carolina like, yo, like to find time not to be able to make shots. And the way UConn played, man. Shout out to UConn. Paige going out on top. Can't with all the hype, man, you don't think that it's going to end this way coming off of what happened transpired last year with Caitlin Clark, with all the hype she had going into the game, the tournament and playing the way she did and being able to piggyback on that success for women's basketball with another dominant performance by another. The other person that's. She's almost as famous as. Damn it, Caitlin. Almost. You know what I'm saying? So to have someone piggyback on that success and to win it and shout out to her, shout out to UConn, shout out to the women's game and no one saw this coming. But. But Yukon, I'm assuming.
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Shannon Sharpe
I think the thing is Kmart, is that people don't realize as a true freshman, Paige Beckers was the player of the year. The injuries robbed her. She was in that class. It was her. It was Caitlin Clark. It was Angel, Reese, it was Cardosa. They was all in the 2020 class.
- [39:26]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
When Paige got hurt, Caitlyn did what she did. But people don't realize how great Paige Beckers was prior to these injuries. Now, I think in order for her. For her to go like, hey, when Rebecca Lobo and Sue Bird and Tarasi and Mill and Stewie, with all those in the future, when all those are sitting at the table, Paige Beckers get to pull up her chair now, because that was the only thing that was missing on her resume. Kmart. She had been player of the year. She had gone to Final fours. The thing with UConn, in order to be in that group, they hang banners. Absolutely, they hang banners. That's what them great players do, Starting with Rebecca Lobo group, and then Sue Bird and Tarasi and Keena Charles and Maya Moore and Stewie and all of them. You gotta hang banners.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Absolutely.
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Hypnotic Host
And she got it now.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
She pulled her chair up.
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Shannon Sharpe
She. Pull it up. Go ahead, Ocho.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Hey.
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Kmart
Hey. I mean, congratulations to UConn and what they've been able to do. Gino winning his. What number Was this fan?
- [40:31]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
12, bro. His TW.
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Kmart
His 12th championship. But for the Lady Gamecocks, what is Don. What does Don Staley need to do? Or what does she need to come inside that room to get back. To get back to the top, you know, scoring better players?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, you're gonna get every. Now you're gonna get everybody best shot. No, you go listen one. You got all of them. All Americans, man. They're just like UConn used to be. Tennessee was the haunted forever. USC was the haunted. UConn was the haunted. Now South Carolina is the haunted. Like, right, people, you're gonna get them schools best shot every time you play, right? Yes, sir. It's bulletin board material. It's. They got all these. All Americans. They got all these McDonald's. They've been doing this. They do this. They got commercials. They that. They this. They. So you can hear all this leading up to this game, and it just adding fuel to this fire that you already got burning that you want to go out and compete so you don't get that best shot, man. Like, whatever she do, I'm pretty sure they gonna go back to the drawing board.
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Kmart
Yeah.
- [41:34]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And they still. Hell of a team. Still a dynasty. They still.
- [41:41]
Shannon Sharpe
But if you. But if you think about South Carolina, they got no star, they got no dominant player, and they made it to the championship game. You look at Sarah Strong is a true freshman. She gave it 24 and 24 and 15. Yeah. Was an all American. She's coming back. Paige Beckers was once college player of the year. She was there. So you got three big guns. Look at Carolina. Carolina. Carolina had one player in double figure. Two players in double figures off the.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Bench with 10 off the bench.
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Shannon Sharpe
Your starters gave you 17, 19, 21. Your starters gave you 24 points. Ojo Sarah Strong outscored the starters by herself. She had 24. Abby Fudd, she had 24. Paige Beckers had an off night shooting the basketball. 5 of 14. She had 17 points. You're not going to win. If one starter from the opposing team outscored your entire starting lineup, you're not gonna win. The game is gonna be lopsided like it was.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I got one. I got one worst.
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Shannon Sharpe
I was talking to my sister. My sister. Look, my brother went to Carolina, so obviously we root for all things Carolina. I told my sister, I said, libby, they went to game. They went to South Carolina, stopped their 71 game win streak by damn near 30. You think they gonna beat this team on a neutral site, right? No chance. Zero.
- [43:04]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Well, I got one word for you.
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Shannon Sharpe
What?
- [43:07]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The portal.
- [43:10]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, Don. Gotta go to the portal.
- [43:13]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, man, one thing. That portal real right now, Jack.
- [43:16]
Kmart
Hey, I'm sure. I know, I know, I know. I know they got the boot. I know they got the boosters now. I know they got the boosters down there in South Carolina. They gonna. They can go get whoever they want.
- [43:25]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Tell you, hey, they gonna break that. They go back that brakes truck up to somebody, and then you.
- [43:31]
Shannon Sharpe
You got. You gotta.
- [43:31]
Kmart
You gotta pay. You gotta pay to play.
- [43:33]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You gotta pay to play these days, Jack. Hey, that's why. Hey, go ahead. Go ask Nick Saban like, hey, man, listen, everybody. These kids can go wherever they. Hey, hold on. It ain't just about football no more. Yeah, I'm out.
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Shannon Sharpe
Take a peek. Don Staley closed out our final presser, thanking the local media. You guys know our team. You're pretty fair with how you assess our basketball team. If every program had this, we could push. Push women's basketball forward on a local level across the country. You see the difference? When her team lost, she didn't snap at no reporters. Was this good or bad? She didn't do that. You know what? Class personified. You have to have the same level. You gotta win with dignity. You lose with the same. Your same purpose.
- [44:23]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Absolutely.
- [44:24]
Shannon Sharpe
It ain't no oh, oh, oh. How many final fours did you been to? Did your team make it this far? There was none of that.
- [44:31]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
None of that.
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Kmart
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
You see the difference?
- [44:33]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. We've been here before. We're gonna get here again and we've been here before and we gonna get her again.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, but Doc, you right. She gonna have to go. She gonna have to go. She gonna have to go in that portal and get some big guns and I don't know what's out there. Maybe, maybe they can get a. Put a three million dollar package and go get juju. Hey.
- [44:52]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes. Hey. Well, it's gonna take a little more than that. It's gonna take a little more than that.
- [44:55]
Kmart
Hold on three on three minutes.
- [44:57]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
A little more than that. Gonna take a little more.
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Kmart
The pride. Hey, the pride. Juju from USC.
- [45:03]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [45:03]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Gonna be like 10.
- [45:05]
Kmart
I was just gonna say 10 too.
- [45:08]
Shannon Sharpe
I got five. I can't give you 10. Hey, don say hey. Don gonna push back. Don say him. I don't make the three and a half. How you gon. What you paying me?
- [45:16]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, I'm putting the juju. Putting asses in them seats.
- [45:20]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, for sure. Houston shocked the world last night. Went on a 9, 0 run in the final 35 seconds of the ball game to win 70 to 67. Kmart, is this the greatest Final Four tournament comeback that you in NCAA history for?
- [45:39]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That amount of time is up there, man. It's up there like them boys, man. Listen, and that's the, that's the beauty of having older guys, right? Everybody want these 19 year old phenoms. They're great, cool. But when you don't get rattled and you've been there and you've been battle tested and yo, man, that was a. That was a pretty. That was a great basketball game. Very good game. That was a really, really, really, really good basketball game. Well coached. Guys played they tail off, man, so that I was excited to tune in for that one.
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Shannon Sharpe
Ocho.
- [46:26]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [46:26]
Shannon Sharpe
With a minute 27 seconds left, they up seven.
- [46:30]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Man.
- [46:30]
Shannon Sharpe
I cut the TV. I said, man, damn, dude gonna win this thing again. I know my homeboy gonna call me, start effing with me. I said, man, they done got this. And so I let like 20 minutes go by and then I go to my phone. Espn. No, I was on ig and I see the get out face the guy got. He's like. I'm like, what? What are you talking about? And then I read the cool stunned the Blue Devils.
- [46:58]
Kmart
I was like, what?
- [46:59]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I said, oh, there ain't no way somebody. I said, you know, there ain't no way, man. I turn the TV on and I see Everybody just, like, going crazy. I said, what the hell happened? So now I gotta rewind to go back and see what happened on earbound plays. I be damn, Kmart.
- [47:16]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, man.
- [47:20]
Kmart
Listen, I know I got tight, Mike. Very tight. Hey, I know a lot of people lost money yesterday, huh? I guarantee you, everybody bet on Duke to win that game.
- [47:33]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes. Hey, you don't remind me of Kmart. You remember this game when Reggie Miller shot the Knicks?
- [47:40]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You remember?
- [47:40]
Shannon Sharpe
Hit that three, he stole the ball, the shoes. The guy got the ball and ran right behind the three point line and let it fly. And bam. I'm like, oh, my goodness. I'm watching this. I'm like, oh, my God.
- [47:52]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Real time, man. Like, just couldn't get the ball up. Possession after possession, they just kept the pressure on, man. And they did. And they wore down even them during the game, man. And they was like, if they get it to this point, it could be interesting. If they keep it right here, it could be. It could be this. If they did.
- [48:13]
Shannon Sharpe
Yo, I thought.
- [48:15]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I thought the turning point, also the right time.
- [48:17]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I thought also a timeout. Kmart, you remember in the first half when Duke had that big lead and Houston hit three threes in a row to close out the. To close out the first half, okay, they stretch out to a big lead again. And here come what you call them, clawing back. I was like, damn, y'all. But then when they got a minute, 27, 64, 57. I said, man, y'all ain't finna do. I said, y'all. I said, y'all had a great run. Houston, I cut it off.
- [48:44]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
See, the thing about, like, that's. That minute and a half is an eternity in college basketball as they prove a long. Right. Yeah, long. It's an eternity. And when. When you guys. Them freshman. So you got a lot of young guys on. You got some incoming freshmen, you got freshmen, you got some mix of some older guys. Them dudes ain't been in impressive situations, man. Like, just haven't had to show up when the stakes are that high and shout out to the man, listen, Houston, them older dudes, man, them 22, 23, 24 year old dudes, man, listen, that.
- [49:28]
Shannon Sharpe
That's the thing, because you look, Kmart, when you look at. Look at Duke, look at all the number one overall draft picks that they have and didn't win the national championship. It started with Elton Brand. You remember in 99, they lost to Yukon. I think they had, like four first round picks that year, but Elton Brand was number one. Kyrie went number one. Zion went number one. Bankero went number one. Flag gonna go number one, huh?
- [49:55]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You throw the Marvin Bagley right in there.
- [49:57]
Shannon Sharpe
He was two when Zion went number one. I think RJ went number three. Number four, Cam Radish.
- [50:06]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [50:06]
Shannon Sharpe
So you look at Kyrie went number one. I think Kyrie them got bounced in the second round.
- [50:12]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So it's like.
- [50:13]
Shannon Sharpe
And I was Coach Greenberg says yes. When you bring on it, it's nice because all these McDonald's all American, you got the one number one player, the number three player, the number five player, the number 10 player, the number 12 player in an incoming class. Everybody have been the man on their squad. How do we get these guys to share? To realize in order for us to get where we want to go, you're not gonna be able to be the man no more.
- [50:41]
Hypnotic Host
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Shannon Sharpe
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Kmart
Who's paying for the mattress Topper?
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Shannon Sharpe
You mean the beanbag chair?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Aren't we getting a mini fridge?
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Wendy
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Shannon Sharpe
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
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Shannon Sharpe
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Wendy
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Hypnotic Host
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, but then again, you could look at Odoo in terms of how its.
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Shannon Sharpe
Individual software programs are a lot like building blocks.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Whatever your business needs, manufacturing, accounting, HR.
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Shannon Sharpe
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
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Shannon Sharpe
So what does Odoo?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Well, Odoo is a bit of everything. Odoo is a fertilizer, magic beanstalk, building blocks for business.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, that's it.
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Hypnotic Host
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Shannon Sharpe
How difficult is that? We saw that also with Kentucky. Look at Kentucky with all the time they had the John Wall and the Boogie Cousins and the Devin Bookers and the Shay Gilgeth and the Tyler Heroes and the Karl Anthony Towns. Look at all those Guys that they've had and didn't win the championship.
- [54:53]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You won Super Bowls, huh? I'm saying winning is a learned behavior, man. Like, you're not just showing up as a freshman or as a rookie, learning how to win when guys have been practicing this or been working at this for years. Like, you're not just finna show up and be on campus for eight months thinking you finna learn the totality of this game. You, you come to college as this phenom, but you're incomplete. Like your game and your knowledge for what you're trying to be is incomplete. Okay, Right. So you. And you're only on campus for eight months, and then you're moving on. So you're not really learning everything you need to learn. And then you get in these pressure situations at the end of the year where you, like you said, you've been a man. So that's all you know. When it gets, when, when the game get online, it gets tough. All you think to do is to put on your cape. Yes. Like, I'm gonna put on my Superman cape. This is my time now. Right? So. And if you got five, four or five guys that used to put no that cape, then you have these results. So my thing is older guys, man, guys that's been coached and bred and been cussed out and been had to get on the line for three years and then been did this and then had to run because they didn't go to class and all that. You ain't fit out. Listen, them dudes hungry and they want it.
- [56:21]
Shannon Sharpe
I was listening to Cat, excuse me, Ant man, talking about when they got behind Serbia and they was down like 13 in the fourth quarter. He says, normally when I get into a situation like that, I'm putting that cape on. I'm going, hey, take this thing over. He said, but I watched Steph, I watched KD. I watched LeBron swing the ball, dribble kick, and it was like. And the next thing you know, and when KD hit that three point, who was that? Was that Book? I think it was either book or KD hit a three point shot and they got five with the four pointer. KD said, yeah, I knew it was over from that point on. And you see, the thing is, because you gotta realize now, those other guys you going into going against, they had capes on too. New guy from Houston, like Kmart said, they're older guys. Ocho, they got the mile test. They average about five. The, the, the fastest guy ran the mile in like 5, 10. The slowest ran like 546. They averaged about 519, right? That kind of pressure on, you've got to have a tremendous amount of lung capacity because they pressuring you 94ft every time you touch the ball.
- [57:27]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Every time?
- [57:27]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, every time you touch the ball. And to keep that kind of relentless pressure on, kind of like Nolan Richardson used to have. The 40 minutes of hell. Kmart.
- [57:36]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
40 minutes of hell, baby.
- [57:37]
Shannon Sharpe
All out. I'm gonna. We're gonna. We're gonna wear you down now. Hey, you might get off, but, hey, the last three minutes of the ball game, when you gotta think and you gotta execute.
- [57:47]
Kmart
Yeah. You gotta deal with that.
- [57:49]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That old press, baby. That old AMA press they used to throw on you, right? Yeah. No, no, no, man. It's battle tested.
- [57:59]
Shannon Sharpe
You got Florida, you got Houston. Who you like? K. Martin.
- [58:04]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Why I'm going with them Texas boys.
- [58:07]
Shannon Sharpe
Man, you going all day. That's why I even ask you. You gonna go all day? You. If they have four players over Florida.
- [58:16]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Over Florida? Yeah, man.
- [58:18]
Shannon Sharpe
He from Dallas. He going half a Texas.
- [58:22]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Man, baby, I'm talking about.
- [58:26]
Kmart
All right, I'll let you have that.
- [58:28]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You want.
- [58:29]
Kmart
Hey, hold on. You want to put something on it again?
- [58:30]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Like I said, make it light on yourself, bro.
- [58:33]
Kmart
All right, listen, I don't turn down nothing but my collar.
- [58:36]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, listen, man. You. You. It can be a dinner. I see you smoke stogies. It could be a stogie.
- [58:41]
Kmart
It could be.
- [58:44]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Listen, whatever you want to do, you make it light on yourself, brother, I'm saying.
- [58:48]
Kmart
All right?
- [58:49]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Name your st. Name your stogie. So what it is, you name your stogie, I name mine. You win, you name your story.
- [58:56]
Kmart
Right?
- [58:57]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay.
- [58:57]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
- [58:58]
Kmart
Now we talk. Okay, well, listen.
- [59:00]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Make that a bet, Good gentleman.
- [59:02]
Shannon Sharpe
I like listening.
- [59:03]
Kmart
70 gauge lunatic. Okay, what you got?
- [59:06]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm going all in. Listen, you're gonna have to go to the bank with mine. Trust me, it ain't gonna be. You gonna go to your local.
- [59:17]
Kmart
Oh, you trying. Are you trying to get Aki with the bet?
- [59:19]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's a great. Yeah, I said, name yours, you name George. I'm gonna name mine. Hold on.
- [59:25]
Kmart
I don't have to go to the bank to get nothing by no cigar, because I got access to that, so that's easy for me. I get them for free. No matter what you getting.
- [59:33]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
My bad, player. Yeah, I'm just letting you know my bad, killer.
- [59:38]
Kmart
See, I tried to keep it simple and just name one cigar. I just want. I want about 10. 10 lunatics, 70 gauges. And I was Gonna call it a rap, but you trying to get spicy. We could do that, too.
- [59:48]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You want to do Give it to some gangsters. Have it change however you want to do it.
- [59:54]
Shannon Sharpe
Well, if I bet I want my cigar, hey, I want somebody to go plant the stalk in Cuba. Watch it grow.
- [60:00]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Watch it grow from the real one.
- [60:05]
Shannon Sharpe
You got real. Cross the water, I'll smoke the cigars. I'm gonna let y'all have that one. So the bet Ocho, you want, you want 1070 gauge lunatics. I'm sip.
- [60:15]
Kmart
Listen, I just want 1070 gauge lunatics. Or you know what? Matter of fact, I want 1070 gauge lunatics, right?
- [60:20]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [60:21]
Kmart
Listen to me now. And I want 10 Daniel Marshall 24 Karat Gold cigars.
- [60:28]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We'll make the same bet then. Same bet.
- [60:31]
Kmart
Oh, for real.
- [60:31]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Same bet.
- [60:32]
Kmart
Okay. Matter of fact, you smoke that Daniel Marshall, that 24 gold.
- [60:37]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I haven't had it, but you named it. Same bet.
- [60:40]
Kmart
There it is. Hey, Chat. Hey, Chat, do me a favor. In the chat. Tell Kmart how much that Daniel Marshall 24 karat gate. 24 karat gold cigars.
- [60:52]
Shannon Sharpe
Don't seem to concern himself with that because he don't think he's gonna be buying.
- [60:58]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Listen, when. When and if I cross that bridge, when we get to it. Oh, I'm listening.
- [61:04]
Kmart
I already know Florida. I already know Florida gonna win.
- [61:06]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm going with the mold.
- [61:07]
Kmart
I already know Florida gonna win. See, my way just put more in now.
- [61:09]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm going with the old heads, man. They don't show up, you never listen. They right.
- [61:17]
Kmart
Never bet against anything, man.
- [61:18]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They write down the road. Hey, yo, do you know what this compatible the Alamo? Don't you know how many people finna beat and come down? I. 10, man.
- [61:26]
Shannon Sharpe
Right?
- [61:29]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
San Antonio, bro.
- [61:30]
Kmart
You think. You think Florida don't travel well? You don't think the people travel well?
- [61:35]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They can't drive it. Listen, man, they gonna have the highway.
- [61:38]
Shannon Sharpe
Hold on. These cigars cost 300 a cigar.
- [61:42]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [61:44]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah. Hell, no.
- [61:46]
Kmart
Hey, hey, hey, hey. That whole gold thing look good too.
- [61:49]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Now he gonna listen. Yo, po box, I want 10 of them.
- [61:55]
Kmart
I want 10 of them.
- [61:56]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Po box. My math work well. My math worked Well.
- [61:59]
Kmart
I want 10 of them.
- [62:00]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay. My math work well.
- [62:02]
Kmart
Okay. I didn't make a show.
- [62:03]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
My math work. All right.
- [62:06]
Kmart
No pressure.
- [62:07]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Listen, man. Hey, man, it's gonna be so much cougar in that joint, man. Hey, they finna show everybody. Listen, they got scalping them tickets. Yo arm everybody else fans. They. They leaving. So they gonna sell Their tickets, they both to the final game, right? All them Houston fans that couldn't listen. They couldn't get them on ticket master. People was trying to. Right? Hey, they getting them things right now for two. Listen. For pennies on the dollar.
- [62:37]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, Kmart, I'm gonna throw in five when you win. Go get my money too. While you at it, I'm gonna throw in five of them cigars.
- [62:47]
Kmart
Well, damn. Hold on, man.
- [62:49]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What about you?
- [62:49]
Kmart
How you gonna side bet? Ain't no sadness in between me and him.
- [62:52]
Shannon Sharpe
No, no, no, I'm just saying when he wins, I'm gonna give him an extra five. So he gonna get my money while he at it. While he died there. He gonna get my money.
- [62:59]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm talking about.
- [63:00]
Kmart
Nah, nah, nah, nah. I'm a mailing. I'm not gonna see him in person.
- [63:04]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Them Texas boys, man. Hey, them Texas boys, man. Them boys hungry, dog.
- [63:11]
Shannon Sharpe
I asked you because I should have known. All things. All things Texas.
- [63:15]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
All things Texas.
- [63:16]
Shannon Sharpe
Cause he love them so ass cowboys on show. We a talk about that yet.
- [63:21]
Kmart
You like the cowboy show?
- [63:23]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm bred in it. Oh, I'm not. I'm not one of them dudes that's from somewhere else, man.
- [63:27]
Kmart
See, listen. He just. He just going for team just because he from the place and not had. Not being realistic about their chances of actually winning the game.
- [63:35]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I am really no one thing about me about this team, yo. You got to listen to me. But I'm realistic about him. Trust me. No, I'm not one of them. Them every year Lakers fans. Every year Cowboys fan, we gonna win it, right? I'm not. I'm not one of them, dog. Trust me. We hire sh as a coach. Trust me. When we. We could have. Hey, the man in D. The man out in D.C. was an excellent. Ain't no way he should not have been our head coach. How about you go Kellen Moore? You want somebody that. Don't get me started with these dudes, man. Just cause I'm. I was in high school, you know, I've been out of high school a long time. See all that's great. I've been out of high school a long time. That's the last time they went to the Super Bowl. I skipped high school and went to the. Listen, I skipped school and went to the super bowl parade, dog.
- [64:26]
Kmart
For real.
- [64:26]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And yes, that had to sit out the first half of the basketball game because they went looking for us in the classroom. So, no, I don't. I ain't rolling, man. Like, I'm. I'M big time CD fan, bro. But Michael Parson, I'm. I'm on the fence about that. I don't know about. I call him Dakota until he do something. His name Dakota Rain. I don't call. You don't get nicknames.
- [64:51]
Kmart
Yeah.
- [64:51]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
If you don't. If you don't get it done, man. Right. He was on the show. So. So we had to pick another team this year. I was going for Lamar and the Ravens, man, like so. So I was off the band with this way, way back in when they first started training camp. I'm gonna tell you straight up. They did nothing significant. When they didn't sign Derrick Henry last year, I was off of them. I ain't gonna hold you.
- [65:13]
Kmart
Yeah, well, listen, he had a place in Dallas.
- [65:17]
Shannon Sharpe
K Bar. He traded Dallas.
- [65:19]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And I know, I know the guy. He trained with my mind like Melvin Sanders, A Sanders fit. The way he work out at. I was Mel's first client. I know Mel well. Mel was with me in Denver trying to. So I know these dudes well. And Mel was telling me off, right? Like, man, he trying to be here. I'm like, man, what's up with it?
- [65:40]
Kmart
Your own or your owner said he couldn't afford it, man.
- [65:42]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Then you go back and bring Zeke, man. Are you like, come on, man, let's not do this. Let's not do this, man. Cause trust me, hey, they could have threw one of us back there, man. And got more production, baby. Oo.
- [65:57]
Shannon Sharpe
I got artificial hip. I can't take no more hits. K Bar, I ain't gonna hold.
- [66:02]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You know what?
- [66:04]
Shannon Sharpe
Nicola Jokic in a loss, 41 points, 15 rebounds, 13 assists. Ties will Chamberlain for the most 40 point triple doubles. Seven by center. Steve Kerr called Nicole Jokic the best center he's ever seen. Kareem couldn't do all this stuff. Jokic is the best center I've ever seen. I played against Kareem. Kareem couldn't do all this stuff. We're watching a guy who's doing things nobody's ever done before. It goes so far, well beyond the skill with Yoke. It's the competitiveness, it's his intelligence. He's absolutely one of the smartest players ever. And you see it in so many different ways. K Mars, right? Somebody was saying, hold on, I forget who it was. But they said he wasn't a top 20 player yet. Where do you have Nicole Jokic rank? Because he top 20 for me. If he ain't top 20, do away with the whole. Whoever in the top 20. I'm throwing everybody out. If Nikola Jokic I'm talking about right now. If he's not top 20, I don't know what the hell we talking about, right?
- [67:10]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I want them to name me.
- [67:12]
Kmart
Wait, hold on, wait, wait. Before you answer. Kmart. Hold on. Top 20. All time.
- [67:18]
Shannon Sharpe
All time.
- [67:18]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
All time, bro.
- [67:19]
Shannon Sharpe
All time. In the history. In the 78 year history of the NBA. Nicola Y the top 20 playoff.
- [67:25]
Kmart
As we sit here, he's still playing.
- [67:29]
Shannon Sharpe
So is LeBron.
- [67:29]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So is LeBron and Steph Curry.
- [67:32]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [67:32]
Kmart
Okay, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, K. Answer, answer.
- [67:34]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm curious.
- [67:35]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Them two dudes, you can't. Yo, man, you can't talk about the history of the game within the last and not mention his. Yeah, just can't. So if you talk about. So if we do about positions, right, we give you my positions. Yes, sir. And go Wil. Just not team performance. You talking about individual dominant performance. Not. You go Wilt. You go Hakeem. You go Shaq. He's next in line, man.
- [68:12]
Shannon Sharpe
You taking him over, Kareem.
- [68:14]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Well, I forgot about Cap. My bad. He's fifth. He's the fifth best center of all time right now. Just from got three MVPs. What he's doing? Going after triple double all this. Win another one, he's going to win another mvp, you know, maybe two before he's done. Maybe another championship. This puts him up. Yeah. Top five center of all time right now, man. So you, you, you. Some of these other guys, man, you. Yeah, I'm. If you're not top 20, 21. If you don't have top 20. Okay, he's 21, 22.
- [68:52]
Kmart
I like it, I like it.
- [68:53]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Top 25. Like if you want to take five guards, five. Five point guards, five shooting guards, five small fours, five pound force, five centers, top 25 basketball, NBA players of all time. He's talking. He's the, he's the fifth best center of all time. So I would, I would put him at. Right now. He's still playing. I'll put him at fifth.
- [69:15]
Shannon Sharpe
He's. He. He's as good as I've ever seen. Yeah, I think the thing where people knock him is because of his deep. Because all the guys that you mentioned play deep. All the guys that you mentioned had, had made at least one. Some multiple. All defensive teams now, they didn't have that. They didn't have all defensive team when Wilt Chamberlain. Because Wilt had a game where he had 24 blocks. Gotcha. So we, I mean his numbers, I mean, we gotta do something. We just gotta set Will aside so. Cause the 150 point, 50 point games, ain't nobody ever touching that. Yeah, you're never gonna do that. Nobody's gonna look at ever having 50 points a game for a season.
- [69:53]
Kmart
What if footage at of, of Will's 100 point game. You seen the footage.
- [69:58]
Shannon Sharpe
There ain't no footage. You just got the box score.
- [70:00]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, so, so, so if you look at. Yeah, I'm with you. So that just. So the hundred points, the 20, 000 women, all of them. Hey.
- [70:11]
Shannon Sharpe
Nah, he said, hey, the 20,000 was to sell that book.
- [70:14]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, absolutely. Damn sure. Sale. So. Right, so my thing about Nicola, right, it's not the defensive end. He's your top three in steals, right, but that's one thing, Right, but if you look at it, look at when the games are on the line, right? Like the other day, that, that Minnesota, that Minnesota game the other day, right?
- [70:38]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [70:38]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The 60 point trumpet of that game. Of all the things he was asked to do offensively that game, when the game was on the line, both overtimes, this, that and the third. Watch him move his feet defensively when they ask him to go out and double Anthony Elton. It's little things like that that I look at right when the game is on the line. He can move his feet. He's great. He's not. I ain't gonna say he's Draymond Green defensively when the game is on the line, but no, you're gonna get an honest effort out of him. He's gonna implement the game plan. Whatever you tell him to go out and do. With all the deficiencies that he has defensively, give me that effort that he, that he displays when it's winning time every time. Because like Steve Kerr said, his competitive nature kicks in. You say he can't do something. I'm gonna try my best not to let Anthony Elvis turn this corner. Right.
- [71:37]
Kmart
Listen, but this is the funny thing about it now. As great as he is offensively and what he can do offensively in the post mid range from three, he's a liability on defense. I don't care how hard he tries.
- [71:49]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I don't look at.
- [71:50]
Shannon Sharpe
But ain't nobody can take advantage of it. Yeah, if he's going up against DU Joel Embiid, he's probably a liability in the defense. But the question is, who do you have on the offensive end that's going to punish him like he's going to punish your guy on the defensive end? So when you. So when he has to Play defense. Who's the guy that's going to go at him and put 40 on his head? Like he's going to put 40 on your guy's head.
- [72:13]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But all they're going to do is.
- [72:14]
Shannon Sharpe
Put him on the weakest and then he's going to get 30. He's going to have a double digit assist. So now that's another 20 to 30 points and he's going to get. I mean think about this. He's going to average a triple double for a season as a big. He's shooting 58% from the floor. He's shooting 42% from three.
- [72:36]
Kmart
That's crazy.
- [72:37]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
80 from the line.
- [72:38]
Shannon Sharpe
Do you understand? Somebody that shoots that many shots from the outside. I ain't talking about a guy that just lays the ball up and dunks it right. Think about how many shots he takes outside of the paint. And he's shooting down near 58%.
- [72:51]
Kmart
Ocho, that's crazy, bro.
- [72:53]
Shannon Sharpe
And 42% from the three. Talk to him. You shoot 40. If you shoot 40% from the three, you'll make a lot of money.
- [73:01]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
37% you ain't.
- [73:03]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey. Okay.
- [73:06]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They look at you as an elite shooter. You shoot 42%. You are. Listen.
- [73:13]
Kmart
Yeah. I mean that's, that's what I was.
- [73:16]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
40. 41. 42%. Man. 3.
- [73:20]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [73:20]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And you got a center out here doing it. Come on, man.
- [73:23]
Shannon Sharpe
Like a sitter.
- [73:26]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The volume.
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Shannon Sharpe
Check.
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Shannon Sharpe
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